❔┃ask-the-community

[warm topaz]

Does shrine of scorpions need a buff? for its rarity i feel its underwhelming

[covert ore]

what are the secrets to staying alive in empowered monos?

every character I make has it rough once crossing into 100 corruption

[dense root]

build defenses + don’t get hit

[covert ore]

• health > 2000
• 100% crit avoidance
• resists at 75%
• armor at 25%-50% redux

[pastel pebble]

Decent movespeed helps

[dense root]

tbh that’s not enough

[covert ore]

that's what I have on every toon and some of these 100 corruption echos wreck me

[pastel pebble]

You got any form of sustain?

Leech, regen, etc?

[dense root]

like you didn’t mention endurance or leech both of which are mandatory for health based build

[covert ore]

prolly not on significant sustain - as in I prolly don't have enough there

[near path]

• sustain
• Some other form of DR - Dodge / conditional DR from passives or skills / Block / Ward
• As much move speed as you can stack
• Gitting gud

[covert ore]

I shoudl clarify my judgement aura pally does fine in 100s -- he's stacked pretty big on defenses I guess. My concern with him is my dmg output

but damn, my necro, BM, sorc... all get wrecked

my necro can get 450k dmg ticks on the arena dummies... my pally only 80k.

[native sail]

How tf do you have a Judgement Pally with that little damage. You should have at LEAST 10 times that.

[covert ore]

i'm not draining 100% mana and then recovering with VR

I hate that play style -- feels like cheese

i drain 20% mana which is still 140% more dmg given my mana

if I did 100% mana drain, it'd be 700% more?

[native sail]

Even still

[covert ore]

they also fixed the gloves earlier this year so if you recollection is over a year old, then it's out of date

[native sail]

Judgement has absolutely stacked damage output

[native sail]

My recollection is a month old

[covert ore]

hehe - then I must have something off in my build

[marsh maple]

I just made a judgement setup without needing to spam reversal for mana gain so it's possible

It exists

[covert ore]

oh it's possible

I can post my current setup if anyone wants to spend some time giving feedback 🙂

[sinful laurel]

You can equip that shield and use it outside of a raid setting. Just fyi

Save it for a build that doesn't

And you can absolutely do that. The 10 man raid thing is irrelevant

[native sail]

EHG has said they will not make content specifically for multiplayer and will prioritize the singleplayer experience. Any kind of multiplayer raid situation is explicitly off the table.

It... is

They said this sentiment less than a month ago

[sinful laurel]

I know, just don't want you to think you can only use that shield in situations where you are JUST a tank lol

[native sail]

It isn't nuance lmfao

[rustic lance]

gear down turbo lol

[jaunty solstice]

Is flurry multishot repaired again?

[sinful laurel]

No

Still fast as shit

[jaunty solstice]

Wdym fast as shit?

Is it playable?

[sinful laurel]

Yup

It's bugged in the stupid OP way. At least it still is last I heard

[steel merlin]

i have a judgement pally that hits 800k with singularity and without reversal stuff

[jaunty solstice]

Ooooh

[sinful laurel]

Yeah don't get too excited on it.

It will likely get fixed correctly here soon

[icy drift]

@rustic lance Basically the stat sheet shows rounded Stats, I asked why the stats themselves aren't also rounded so that it's accurate.

I didn't use a formula for anything, not sure what you meant by that

[rustic lance]

I havent even looked at it, but do they round up at 0.5 or down, in normal math you round up, if its 0.5 or higher. Not saying that in any bad way, just haven't look at it like that.

[icy drift]

Yes, unity uses bankers rounding, which always rounds to the nearest even number.

Which is also what the game uses, as per dammitt

So both 99.5 and 100.5 go to 100

But 100.6 or above goes to 101

[rustic lance]

100.5 should go to 101 in normal math terms of rounding, but like I said, wasnt trying to say that in any bad way, just was trying to understand what you were asking

youll have to ask them about that tho. lol 🙂

[icy drift]

Yes, look up bankers rounding

That's what the game uses

[rustic lance]

aye 🙂

[old jolt]

I finished "The Black Sun" monlith but havent obtained access to choose from all blessings, do i need to do it again to get access to the locked ones?

Oh, i think i got it, if i redo the monolith i have a chance to find new blessings

[toxic echo]

You just redo the timeline and beat the boss, and yoi get to pick from more blessings. They are rng drops tho, so, you won't always get what you want. The 4th slot is unlocked at empowered, 5th slot is at 200 corruption.

[old jolt]

i see

thx

im doing monoliths for the first time, do u think its worth replaying the same one if it has a blessing i want, or should i unlock empowered and after that start worrying about getting the right blessings?

[toxic echo]

Nah, not really worth farming on normal. Gonna be farming them on empowered anyways

[old jolt]

Okey, i'll do that then

[south latch]

Is there something special i have to do to find a Rune of Creation

Im nearly level 100, have dozens, if not hundreds and thousands of the other ruins

Runes

[faint cape]

Get lucky - it's the rarest supplemental crafting item

[trail pulsar]

Anyone got any help for me on how to stop getting disconnected, online and offline

every few mins i get dc

[surreal verge]

It's also, not really as useful as one might think

[trail pulsar]

and another dc

anyone else suffer from dc's?

[south latch]

never

[trail pulsar]

fuck this, played 59 mins and d/ced well over 30 times

refund time me thinks

[south latch]

thats gotta be on your end

[trail pulsar]

?

[south latch]

Ive never once DC'd

[trail pulsar]

your a very lucky man

played online mode and d/c constant

playing offline and dc every few mins

this is one reply on their forum

AllcEye
Oct 1
I still 1 OCT 23 get random DC all the time. Mid fight just DC. This is crazy that this is still going on over a year now. You would think an issue that makes players not want to play your game would be #1 on the fix it list. This game is supposed to “launch” in DEC 23 and you still have people getting random DC all over the place. Great game but come on its 2023…fixing random DCing shouldn’t be hard to fix.

[south latch]

a few nights ago i walked away and went to bed and i had a folder resting on my keyboard that had me moving all night long when i got up 8 hours later i had not been disconnected. i think its gotta be on your end

[trail pulsar]

look up in forums

[warm topaz]

never dced idk

[trail pulsar]

loads of peeeps d/cing

[faint cape]

What region are you in?

[trail pulsar]

uk

[faint cape]

There's a post somewhere for EUW

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1166070016697958431

Maybe related

Try connecting to another server and seeing if you still d/c

[trail pulsar]

it happens offline too

d/c on US East server

ping of 82

Eu server ping 26

refund for me
Cheers for the help guys

[south latch]

lol, fix your rig, change internet providers....what do you want anyone to say? ive never once experienced a disconnect. If I did, I would look at my traffic and figure out why,.

[dense root]

tbf a lot of eu people have difficulties

[faint cape]

It's not possible to d/c from offline mode, unless you just mean the chat?

[trail pulsar]

game crashes

[trail pulsar]

thank you

my rig is fine

[faint cape]

Then something else is causing it, d/c is very different from crashing

[dense root]

the game crashing is something else yeah

[trail pulsar]

d/c crash both of them exits the game

[dense root]

no

[faint cape]

No, d/c does not

[dense root]

if you disconnect it just takes you back to the main menu

[south latch]

lol

[trail pulsar]

so its crashing then

[dense root]

if it's crashing i'd recommend verifying your files on steam

[faint cape]

^

[dense root]

if it keeps doing that afterwards it's probably that your computer isn't good enough or that you have too many other things taking up resources at the same time

[trail pulsar]

too late now, applied for refund

[south latch]

when was the last time you updated your gpu drivers?

[trail pulsar]

5700x 4080OC

[south latch]

....?

[trail pulsar]

b4

[south latch]

what nvidia driver are you on?

[trail pulsar]

latest

[south latch]

then use DDU, clean the dirvers and reinstall

[north shell]

am I missing something?...last time I checked there is only 1 lightning bow skill...

detonating arrow is the only lightning bow attack right?

[surreal verge]

Yup.

[native sail]

Yup

[north shell]

and it's broken :(....maybe more to come in updates

[native sail]

I'm pretty sure that gets used for THE jankiest Chakram build actually

[surreal verge]

That is literally my first thought of the unique lul

[faint cape]

Det arrow is only partly broken, the lightning tendril part is still great

but yeah, hopefully falconer has some more lightning stuff, would be nice

[north shell]

well couldn't you just proc it on a standard shuriken utility set up?

[north shell]

I mean...I guess? I still feel like it's pretty broken

[native sail]

It says when you use, which means direct use in 99% of situations

[faint cape]

How so? It's mainly just the cone shape that is messed up

[north shell]

yea but that's a big portion of aoe damage in packs

[faint cape]

Not if you just don't take the cone shape

[surreal verge]

But tendrils are even BETTER and they're working

[north shell]

oh can you spec out of the shape?

maybe I'll try it then

[faint cape]

You have to spec into the cone, it's not the default

[north shell]

oh ok

so it's just the fire piece?

[native sail]

RIP 40 base damage Det Arrow, I miss you so much.

[faint cape]

Yeah, well it's the node right before the fire conversion

[north shell]

I think the unique would be more interesting if it were ele pen instead of lightning seeing as how there is only 1 bow lightning skill

[native sail]

Alternative option, we start a petition to get conversions for Flurry, Puncture, and Cinder

[north shell]

or that

rogue should have more poison conversions imo

fits the archetype imo

I don't understand all the fire conversions they have...I guess it fits a trap style/demolitionist architype

[icy drift]

@balmy current I already clarified for him ^^ but thanks anyway. Just didn't wanna do it in the same channel since it'd get clogged

[kind spade]

guys pls help im stuck in campaihn im in maj elka waystation dont know how to get down to the teleport

[icy drift]

there's a ladder you can click

show us a screenshots and ill circle it for you

it's something a ton of people miss

[sinful laurel]

Can add in to my already existing one for cinder

[south latch]

i missed the same ladder

[runic hinge]

When you're trying to grow corruption as fast as you can, is it better to take the Orobyss fights as soon as you see them (to get +corruption more often), or push out really far from center (for more +corruption per fight)? Or is it balanced so that they're about the same?

[toxic echo]

go far out, get a gaze or two on the way for extra corr

[runic hinge]

does the amount you get per gaze get increased by the distance scaling?

[tulip aurora]

Can anyone explain Arek's Bones "Increased Armour Shred Effect for You and Your Minions"? Does this mean each stack of Armor Shred is worth X% more? So say, if it's +171%, you shred 271 Armour per stack?

[runic hinge]

yes, that's exactly right

[tulip aurora]

Awesome, thanks!

[toxic echo]

the gaze is worth more the farther you go out, but stacking multiple gazes nets less corr. if you have one it gets like +9 corr. if you have two its only +17 (9+8), and so on, so it gets a little diminishing returns if you stack too many gazes per oro fight

[balmy oriole]

does teleports stun immunity from its tree scale with the stat buff duration increase node?

[buoyant roost]

Hey all, question about the Shattered Earth node for Earthquake. Is that a maximum of +1 aftershock in total (like 4->5) or +1 aftershock per aftershock (like 4->8)? Also, will it activate if aftershock is a DoT?

[carmine coyote]

Base is 2-4, 1 to max would be 2-5, and yes it does work if its a dot

Only node that disables aftershocks is the seismic smash

[faint trout]

When I open the passives menu it says im a level 20 acolyte but when I open the character menu it says im only level 16, whats the difference and why are they different levels?

[buoyant sinew]

can you screenshot the thing that says you're level 20 on the passive menu?

[sinful laurel]

It's likely 20 points spent in acolyte passives. 16 plus 4 from quests

[faint trout]

ok let me boot the game back up

ohhhh that would make sense

[safe harness]

I don’t think the passives menu says your level?

[sinful laurel]

It doesnt

Just points invested

[faint trout]

ok I just assumed it was my level

[faint trout]

My mistake, it is points invested.

[buoyant sinew]

yeah all good. if you were wondering, the reason it shows that is because skill and mastery unlocks rely on how many points you've spent in the tree

[faint trout]

ohhhh dope i was wondering about that lol thank you

[tidal rain]

hey is trading allowed in this game( if yes i really need a ravens rise, ill trade for)

[buoyant sinew]

trading isn't possible yet, except swapping drops with party members. there's no way to drop trade or anything like that.

1.0 will include a full trading system, see https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-development-update-introducing-merchants-guild-and-circle-of-fortune-factions/51994

[tidal rain]

so if i group with someone they can drop me raven rise

[buoyant sinew]

if you group with someone and they drop a raven's rise WHILE YOU'RE GROUPED, they can give it to you

[tidal rain]

ok koool

[buoyant sinew]

if they already have one they got previously, they can't

[tidal rain]

wait can you explain

what do you mean previously

[buoyant sinew]

you can only give an item to someone if the person you're giving it to you was partying with you and in the same area when the item dropped

[tidal rain]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

[buoyant sinew]

it's not actual trading, it's just drop sharing between party members

[tidal rain]

so u basically canty trade

[buoyant sinew]

for anything else, you need the full trade system that's coming soon

[tidal rain]

😦

sad life

thanks for the help spark

[buoyant sinew]

np

[willow vector]

Is there ever a situation where dual wielding isnt as good as a single two handed? Feels like dual weilding is always better

[buoyant sinew]

dual wield is usually better yeah

you take more damage but it's worth it

main reason to 2h is just if you have a specific unique you want

[willow vector]

only 9% tho so I just cant see where it wouldnt be worth it

[buoyant sinew]

right

[willow vector]

Merophage just dropped for my primalist thats why I'm asking lol

[buoyant sinew]

but like if you're an earthquake build using bhuldar's then you're stuck using bhuldar's 😄

merophage can be very good for a lot of builds with the right affixes

but I don't think it's ever BiS for anything

[willow vector]

probably right

Just to cool to pass up lol

[buoyant sinew]

there's room for it in lich melee builds since lich can't dual wield

[willow vector]

doing a swipe druid

[buoyant sinew]

except there are very few lich melee builds and they already have unique items targeted at them

[willow vector]

I feel like the amount of shit I get from two weapons is easily worth 9% more damage

[buoyant sinew]

for sure

[faint cape]

Depends, if you're trying to push corruption/arena as high as possible DW is generally something you want to avoid unless your build requires it. But that's super niche.

[willow vector]

why avoid?

[faint cape]

And some things just can't be dual wielded, like maces or spellcaster stuff

[faint cape]

Monster damage scales infinitely in those scenarios, so staying alive tends to be the limiting factor

[willow vector]

9% that big of a deal considering the impact you see to your damage?

[buoyant sinew]

though more often than not with caster stuff you end up with a catalyst over a staff

[faint cape]

Yeah, in those particular use cases it is. They usually also have a shield or something.

[faint cape]

Very true

[hasty tartan]

Any tips to reduce crashes to desktop on changing zones?

It seems to happen a lot and it's kind of discouraging

[faint cape]

Hm, have you tried verifying your files on steam?

[hasty tartan]

I'll try that. Thanks

I did that, let's see if it stops crashing

[thorny glen]

anyone has an issue when you first start the game starts without problems but when you exit the g<me to desktop and try to start it again the game doesn't start?

[rugged sinew]

you might want a specific base type

and for some builds you have nodes that benefit from being 2 handed

and some can't dual wield at all

because depending on class/specialization you might not have the option

[topaz panther]

im trying to make a filter where it will color code items based on tier value, but only showing me bases i care about, im not sure how to make it do that though i have a pastebin here and im hoping someone might be able to show me where im going wrong, basically the the recolor 1 Total tiers rule is showing me all bases when i opnly want it to show me the bases called out by other rules https://pastebin.com/iky45SP0

[faint cape]

When an item drops, it reads the filter top-to-bottom until it finds a rule that matches it, it then takes that behavior (show, hide, or recolor) and it's done, no other rules will even be looked at. If no rule matches the item, it defaults to 'show'.

[fallen hull]

Higher level of monoliths, better equipments, idols, and others stuff to loot?

[faint trout]

what does the "SC" next to my class mean?

[sinful laurel]

Softcore

[faint trout]

thanks

[topaz panther]

Do lower level bases drop in higher level maps? For instance would I be likely to see hide boots in a monolith?

[sinful laurel]

Yes but less often

Pretty sure at least

[topaz panther]

Thanks

[grand harbor]

what is the chance for getting cycle from rune of ascendency

ive tried this many times TT

[sinful laurel]

That's pretty unlucky lol. Its a common drop

[near path]

Problem is there's way too many unique rings

So even for a "common" drop RoA is just a bad choice for rings

[sinful laurel]

True

[sterile widget]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ascsim

About 8.5%

[kind grove]

Hi
Tell me please
Is it possible in Last Epoch, just like in Diablo, to level up a character at the expense of a friend?
For example, in the same Diablo, how can you take a low-level character with you to some high-level monolith or something like that?

[native sail]

Sure, you can but you'll have to go back and do some of the campaign anyway because there are passive points and idol slots locked behind it

[faint trout]

I was wondering if there is or will be a system like adventure mode in D3, just something to level alt characters without going through the campaign again

[native sail]

There will not.

They will expand on the current systems that allow you to skip parts of the campaign but they are staunchly against any full skips/adventure mode style mechanics.

[safe harness]

There are shortcuts in the campaign and with the help of leveling items it takes a few hours to finish

[faint trout]

Ok dope, glad there is at least something, rather than playing the whole campaign over and over

[icy drift]

Red rings are still more common from them than ravenous voids are from gloves 😛

[kind grove]

thx

[cunning escarp]

boiz so i unlocked my next echo island

what should i do the past echo

leave it on keep going untill i see the boss?

[native sail]

Just push to empowered, it opens all islands you didn't have open

[cunning escarp]

ahh okay cool thanks

[snow mantle]

How do I get the Abyssal staff?

[native sail]

You don't, it is only used as a base for Omnividence

[snow mantle]

what do you mean?

[native sail]

That base item doesn't exist outside of a unique

[snow mantle]

ah, ok

[icy drift]

Would be kinda cool If we could have something similar to a vaal orb brick that turns a unique into a rare/exalted

Maybe have it be a special echo reward that takes into account your corruption and rolls the affixes based on it, but no fp

So with high enough corruption you can start getting exalted bricks with decently high tiered affixes in the other slots, and then you just gotta brick enough uniques to hit something good

Bet someone would brick a rav void and get some sick affixes on it and sell it for tons

[native sail]

bricking Twisted Heart

[icy drift]

Trueee

You think it's worth a suggestion?

I think it could be cool

[native sail]

Fuck it, can't hurt to try

[mystic quest]

question my dudes

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDsEYA4DYg

it says Timeline to target farm: The Stolen Lance ("Unique or Set Staff or Sceptre" echo rewards)

Does it mean that it can drop from said unique or green staff reward?

sry i still need to understand it and my english is not the best

in the said timeline

[icy drift]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1171054164646842439

[icy drift]

yes it can drop from the "unique of set two handed staff" echo reward

doesn't mean it's exclusive to that reward or timeline, it can drop from anywhere at any time, it's just that that echo reward will specifically give you a two handed staff, which vilatria's downfall is. I would recommend using any runes of ascendency on two handed staffs though as it's quite common and you'll probably get one in a few tries.

[kind spade]

hello all!

can i finish the campaign before lvl 50?

[mystic quest]

ok do i have to use the rune on a specific 2hand staff or do i have to look at some basestats first on the item?

[icy drift]

yes, there's no level req

[icy drift]

no, any two handed staff works

base and stats don't matter

just that it's a two handed staff

[mystic quest]

ty

but it has to be a yellow one or is blue enough

[native sail]

Rarity of the sacrificed item doesn't matter for RoA

[fathom dirge]

Hey is there any negative to playing offline? I dont intend on playing with other people but will it lock me out of anything?

[native sail]

Nope. Not really. You won't get trade at 1.0 (obviously) but if you weren't planning on using that then there's absolutely zero difference (other than, funny enough, less bugs).

[fathom dirge]

When i teleport it seems to take quite a long time to do it is that still an issue in offline?

[native sail]

That's mostly a server/client communication issue afaik, so probably not

[lunar holly]

no, offline loading screens are very fast, the only difference I can think of is that in online echo portals in the monolith are instant and in offline there's short loading screen

[fathom dirge]

Oh and one other question if i portal back to town does that reset my progress? It seems to, twice now ive portalled to get rid off stuff but when i go back i have to start from the beginning

[surreal verge]

Yes, intended.
Don't pick up stuff you dont need

[fathom dirge]

ah okay. no worries

[sudden trellis]

is Health on Kill not preferrable? Should I always go for chance to ignite/chill etc?

[native sail]

Health on kill is quite bad

Chill, slow, frailty, armor shred if available, blind sometimes. Only reason to take bleed or ignite is if you benefit from them somehow/are a build based on them.

[dusky kite]

health on kill values are fairly laughable compared to leech values for instance

just isn't worth a suffix slot

not to mention doing nothing against bosses

[mystic quest]

is there an efficent way to farm the RoAs?

[desert tree]

Lost Caches or Lightless Harbor on the good day

[mystic quest]

need

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwJmEYA4FYg

and thought the best way would be runs on crown

[icy drift]

The crown is quite rare, you can use roa's and run black sun to try and get it but I wouldn't bank on getting it super quick

[mystic quest]

but i need it for my buidl

[icy drift]

Nah you don't it'll just give you a bit of damage, you'll still do decent damage with just the staff and some scaling

[surreal verge]

errrrrrrr.

[mystic quest]

the stuff i alreafy got thx to RoA

[icy drift]

It's my most played build, the crown does give a bunch of damage don't get me wrong. But the build works without it

[mystic quest]

im still trying to understand some mechanics in the game with runes affixes etc 😦

is the layout from the monoliths always the same after resetting

[icy drift]

Monoliths or echoes

Monolith webs are random

Echo maps are static

[mystic quest]

i mean these maps 😄

these are echos right

[icy drift]

Yeah, these are random every time

People usually call them echo webs

[mystic quest]

ok learned smth again ty

[fossil light]

I just started playing game, played for 2h, closed the game and now it do not want to start? How to fix it?

[desert tree]

Clic harder

Jokes aside it an issue I ve seen on the forum a few times

Try Verify your Files, disabling Steam Cloud saves

After that I dont know

Reboot ?

[fossil light]

Reboot works

[fossil light]

Annoying thing hope that devs will fix it in near future

[cedar locust]

The best thing to do is report this via the in game bug reporting tool, though I can make a note of it for the team! Do you remember seeing any errors when the game failed to start?

[fossil light]

No errors just game insta crash after i press play on steam

[kind spade]

lol Lagon destorys me

i tried killing him as bladedancer

i hardly get his tentacles to 80%

[native sail]

Lagon is the first wall for most new players

[kind spade]

i think im gonna grind till lvl 60

im not new

i started 1 year ago but my char is offline

i killed Lagon as a mage when he was like lvl 40

[native sail]

Then you're just getting build/movement checked tbh

[kind spade]

im just gonna farm monoliths

im 99% done with campaign

[candid elm]

You can go into monoliths whenever you're comfortable doing that. I did the campaign with one character and then skipped into monoliths on the following characters once I have 15/15 passives and 8/8 idols unlocked - which you'll get in beginning of Campaign Act 7.

If you want to get the +1 all attribute quest from the end of Act 9 later, the exit of the Temporal Sanctum dungeon puts you into Act 9. Bit of a short cut. It's not a big deal if you just skip it, though.

[kind spade]

Lagon is super hard for a lvl 50 ish character

[wide sentinel]

depends on your build

[odd bolt]

Guys I would like a fully and deeply analysis comparing LE with D4. why play one why play another, if anyone has this type of analysis pls send it to me.

[lunar holly]

LE good, D4 bad

[odd bolt]

whyyy

[faint cape]

I won't write you a whitepaper, but the simple answer is that LE lands on the depth/complexity scale between D4 and PoE. It gives you more depth in character building than D4, but is not as complicated as PoE. What level of complexity is best for you is just completely based on your preference.

[odd bolt]

I just feel D4 dont have endgame

or not many things to do

LE has a lot of things

[native sail]

LE doesn't really have a ton of endgame either honestly. It's one of the most obvious issues right now for any long term player.

[candid elm]

LE end game is currently 3 dungeons, an Arena with waves, and the timelines/monoliths - these have an expanding web of areas. You can see on each what the reward is and what is the difficulty modifier plus how many additional areas that difficulty modifier lasts. Do enough in one monolith and there's a big boss to fight or go far enough in one direction and there's another boss that will reset the web plus slightly increase the monolith overall difficulty - called Corruption.

The monolith endgame is pushing Corruption to whatever difficulty you want, farming for Exalted items that you can further improve with crafting, and looking for uniques with Legendary Potential (LP) that you can smash into an Exalted item to transfer LP# of mods from the Exalted item onto your new Legendary item.

[odd bolt]

yeah its pretty decent tbh if we compare to D4

At least there are more things

I have a 90 lvl runemaster and it feels so good. I have perfect armour items and afixes, with 300-400 corruption

But I dont know if its only me after 400 corruption is there any big difference?

Im not sure if diving into more corruption or just create a new character

[native sail]

It just gets more difficult and you'll get more loot. It's uh... not much incentive

[candid elm]

Entirely up to you. The Shade has an item that only drops at 200+ Corruption, but it's the only boss like that. I think 200-300 is a good spot for many people, but if you wanted to go higher because you can, you're free to

[odd bolt]

I can agree with that, if I have all my necessary items and dont want to search one in concrete, just doing more and more mono it seems to be a little bit exhausting

[candid elm]

Yeah that's kind of the limitation of LE's current end game

[odd bolt]

I see

thanks for answering btw

[candid elm]

It's kind of hard to compare it to something like PoE that has years and years of extra content

[wicked plover]

not gonna lie, adding just the extra loot chest and those mages to monolith made it so much more fun to run those
imagine what its gonna be like if they add poe like content to monolith runs
i am pretty positive about the future ^^

[mossy hazel]

and with the changes coming for 1.0(?) for corruption/mods

also gonna make it much nicer to play

[wicked plover]

oh i havent heard of those, whats that about

[mossy hazel]

in the most recent dev talk there was mentions of changes to place more emphasis on difficulty through corruption instead of having this whole balancing act of "which mods can i run and which should i skip to not make everything awful"

[wicked plover]

that soudns great, i am cursing every dodge node i encounter currently ^^'

[mossy hazel]

so you can more easily say "i'm capable of running x corruption" and not be like "IF I AVOID X, Y AND Z THINGS"

[wheat flint]

so basically how diablo 3 does it

[wicked plover]

think it would be fun for the future to use corruption as difficulty and monolith mods for fun stuff like 0,% more mf for each mob killed and +0,5%dmg taken or smth like that instead of just +more dmg, i am sure they will be more creative with it

[mossy hazel]

https://youtu.be/YVuVH3pfCqk?t=551 right wasn't most recent, but a recent dev stream

at this timestamp

[sudden trellis]

Got a question to veteran mage players, I'm running meteor, glacier, static,teleport and fireball (I know terrible setup), but I've been meaning to swap in Flame Ward as content started challenging me. Should I swap out meteor or glacier?

[kind spade]

i recommend going for lightning skills

they are way better and faster to cast

[pastel pebble]

Glacier is pretty powerful IIRC

[kind spade]

first time i fought orybiss i was using meteor too and i kept failing, after i switched to lightning i killed him

[pastel pebble]

Meteor tends to require some support to buold

[sudden trellis]

I want to play blast too but leveling it up seems so awful

[kind spade]

trust me electric is super good

[sudden trellis]

I guess I have to go do Lvl52 monos for some time to level these lol

[kind spade]

yeah good luck

trust me it is worth it

like while u wait for a meteor to fall

that time u can cast 3 times with lightning skills

trust me u will love it

make sure u boost lightning damage too

[oblique quartz]

If I have 3/3 skill node to get mana back when a Thorn Totem is unsummoned, and the Thorn Totem was summoned from an effect like an Idol or Tempest Strike, does that give my character mana back as if I summoned those totems?

[balmy current]

No

You only get mana back on direct minion summoning, not procs

the alt text should explain that

[acoustic thicket]

does doing temporal sanctum at a higher tier have a higher chance to drop a higher LP version of the ring from the boss?

[icy drift]

Yes

[acoustic thicket]

oke

[topaz panther]

I was playing death seal awhile ago and just holding the key so it casts on cooldown but it doesn't work that way anymore(now when I hold it, it activates once then never again) did something change or is there a passive im forgetting?

[small mulch]

So I need to understand this crappy description, since it makes no sense, since its using the usage of words, it makes me question my english

[icy drift]

Yes

Any ring into any ring

Any belt into any belt

Any two handed staff into any two handed staff

You get the gist

[small mulch]

Here it specifices it turns the specific item you place into a unique or set item of the same item type.
The problem here is that usage of words is wrong, what is meant here is item class, there's a big difference between item TYPE and CLASS.

Item Class -> Weapon
Item Type -> Specific TYPE of weapon.
But let's put that mistake aside, let's go to silver ring description, they specify, it, specifically that it can turn into ANY other UNIQUE RING, including the ones that are not SILVER RINGS. Now this is a specification of SILVER rings, so it can turn into a jade ring, golden ring, blabla.

Now that already contradicts the first statement, also not to mention, why on earth are they mentioning that it cannot turn into a helmet under the silver ring? There's no such thing as "HELMET RING" as far as i know, it makes it seem like it turn into ANY OTHER UNIQUE item, but that's obviously not the case.

[icy drift]

No

Item type is the type of weapon it is

Item base would be what specific base it is

A silver ring is a base

A ring is a type

[small mulch]

A ring is item class, type is silver ring.

....

What games have you been playing

what?

[icy drift]

That's just what you've labeled them

[small mulch]

Anyways that doesnt matter

no

That's what they are called

[icy drift]

It's arbitrary

[small mulch]

Item type = specific TYPE of an item

[icy drift]

The devs decide what's what

[small mulch]

But who cares about that, im mentioning the part below that

[icy drift]

Ok

[small mulch]

the devs dont decide english buddy

[pastel pebble]

Yes, the devs outlined the terminology we are using. The definition emerges from its mutually understood use

[small mulch]

But again, i dont care about that, as i said, lets put that mistake to the side and let it slide

[icy drift]

I think I've already answered the question then

[small mulch]

Why on earth are they mentioning, it cannot turn into a helmet

under silver ring

[icy drift]

Any ring will become any unique ring

[small mulch]

what does a frekaing helmet have to do

with silver rings

[icy drift]

Chill

It doesn't

That's why they say it can't become one

[small mulch]

Dont tell me to chill, im perfectly chilled, i know it doesnt

what im saying

WHY would they say it wont turn into a helmet

[pastel pebble]

To clarify

[icy drift]

Alright I'm not gonna engage with you, have a good day

[pastel pebble]

Good call, Cyborg

[small mulch]

When it clearly specifies, it can turn into any other UNIQUE RING.

specify what exactly

"could turn it into any UNIQUE RING"

You have to be shot in the head to think it would turn into another unique

[sinful laurel]

You vastly overestimate the average user. These things need to be made crystal clear. Or as close as it can be

[wide sentinel]

ya

90% of people do not read anything

[small mulch]

It says unique ring, so it's a ring, again, you have to be completely drunk, even then, you would never misunderstand that part needing to be specified that its not gonna turn into a ring

If people do not read, then why specify it ?

lol

Doesn't matter what u write if ppl dont read

[pastel pebble]

Are you OK?

[sinful laurel]

It does. It just does. The description of that system is totally fine

[small mulch]

Anyways its weird, in many ways, even the usage of words is totally drunk

[sinful laurel]

That description is completely sensible and logical.

[pastel pebble]

Is English your native language?

[small mulch]

There's a huge difference between item type and item class, this is not the only thing that is not logical

Ofc english is my native language

what are you even trying to assume

I speak 7 languages fluently too

You couldn't even tell the difference between type and class

[pastel pebble]

Sometimes certain styles of writing throw people off

[small mulch]

and then you're telling me the devs decide what type means

Do you even know the definition of type?

[sinful laurel]

Of course the devs decide the definition of type for their game lol

[cinder fossil]

...yes? they do decide that? its their game?

[small mulch]

Good english right?

More like drunk, 99% on this discord would misunderstand that part

of this passive

[sinful laurel]

Have you ever tried to communicate mathematical or scientific information in 6 words or less?

[small mulch]

It's very simple yes, and that described there is not even close to describing what it does

[sinful laurel]

Also tbf, that particular example IS confusing.

[small mulch]

That example is not just confusing

its crap

[pastel pebble]

It's not even that bad

[sinful laurel]

But 98% of the tooltips in this game are great

[small mulch]

"its not even that bad"

Do explain that part for us, like you did last time borugenes

And miserably failed

[pastel pebble]

Dude, this is why Cyborg stopped talking to you

[small mulch]

Oh, so we're backtracking now?

Didn't you say its not that bad?

Then you can simply explain it easily right?

[pastel pebble]

No, I am saying you are rude and tedious, lol

[sinful laurel]

Also it's absolutely NOT very simple. Not in the slightest. People study their whole lives on how to communicate difficult to understand topics with brevity

[small mulch]

Last time you thought each 1 point of mana gives you 50%, you're a hypocritical.

You dont even understand what you're reading

and you claim it as simple

And you cant admit youre mistakes

And you even asked me last time to reword it and how i would write that

and I did

[wide sentinel]

[pastel pebble]

I got busy, I'm so sorry I didn't give you enough attention

[small mulch]

Step up and talk about whats wrong, admit mistakes made by developers and us, so we can actually improve the game

[icy drift]

Imagine trying to help someone and this is how they act, absolutely embarrassing and despicable

[pastel pebble]

I'm about to get busy again

[small mulch]

instead of siding with garbage things

Don't even pretend you were busy, stop your lies

[pastel pebble]

I'll come back after I go to the store

[wide sentinel]

the only issues i ever had with tooltips in LE was inc/more dmg on skill trees and how they apply to sub skills

but thats about it

[pastel pebble]

I am in the car waiting to pick up my SO

[sinful laurel]

And we're to the personal insults. All credibility lost. Easy out

[pastel pebble]

She just finished up like 3 minutes ago and should be out soon

Is it OK for me to go or do you need me to listen to your rant on language again?

[small mulch]

Here, so everyone can see what kind of a liar you are

You claimed it simple and everything is straight forward

Disgusting

[pastel pebble]

You should @ Kain to ban me for lying

[small mulch]

Then you claim you were busy

[wide sentinel]

bruhhh

[small mulch]

I dont care that you're lying buddy

you're a nobody

[pastel pebble]

I did TBF get busy

[small mulch]

Just at least

step up and admit you made a mistake

instead of lying

[pastel pebble]

I probably made dinner or something, IDK

[small mulch]

Ye ofc

You were also crafting a rocket for NASA

🤮

[pastel pebble]

We did make a rocket with my son today

It was a lot of fun

She is here. I gotta go

[small mulch]

Again, you're full of it, and you know it, and when youre confronted, you cant even admit it, thats how lost you are, yeah off you taddle and go

[sinful laurel]

I see the issue here. Recluse you have a very strict idea of what terms and symbols and words are defined as and you are unable to realize that things can have multiple definitions or meanings based on context or a multitude of other factors, including the will of the developers.

This is untenable and will likely lead to a difficult interaction with the world writ large

[small mulch]

No I'm not strict to the idea of what terms and symbols means, things are common sense and when you obvious weird things and trying to change common sense to explain it your way, then you will get issues like this.

Again, re-read what i wrote, you asked to describe it with a small description, i did, doesn't take a genius to describe something simply, but each one to their own, but at least admit that tons of descriptions are garbage, this was just a small example, i usually figure things out with tests and fails, but at the end of the day, it doesnt need to be that difficult, and it wouldnt be if people stopped siding with things like that and claim it as "OK"

[half pawn]

right then, lads, what're we on about here tonight?

[sinful laurel]

Not only that, but any decent points you may have had are completely drowned out by your horrendous interactions with people and lack of any conversational skills or polite engagement.

[icy drift]

Roa text is confusing for this guy

[small mulch]

Polite engagement? What kind of polite engagement do you expect towards someone that indirectly insults? You couldn't read between the line? Cause I called him a hypocritical liar, which he is, I suddenly dont have any credibility?

[sinful laurel]

98% of this game is incredibly well described and clearly defined, which is quite impressive for the complicated interactions that abound. If you can't engage with them, or learn how to engage with them, that's what we call personal problems

[small mulch]

But it's okay for him to try to subtly mock me and saying english isn't my native language?

[sonic pagoda]

[small mulch]

Get real

[sinful laurel]

For me? Yes, instantly.

[icy drift]

I was the one that interacted with you first and your behaviour was fucking unreal

[small mulch]

Then you're hypocritical as well into that sense

[sinful laurel]

If you feel the need to directly insult someone repeatedly that means that you have zero idea what you are talking about. Period

[small mulch]

Cause if my credibility was lost because I called him a hypocrite, and I lost credibility for that

But for him to sublty try to mock me and my english saying it's not my native language, saying I basically am indirectly dumb and can't understand words

is okay in your case

and increases his credibility

But again, i dont give a single fk about my credibility, my words have the same weight wether you give me creds or not, they still mean what they mean

Whatever floats y'all boats

[sinful laurel]

This. This is why you will not get anywhere with anyone in any level of antagonistic or argumentative interaction.

[icy drift]

Alright, so what did I do so wrong to insult you to the point of being such a belligerent and incoherent piece of shit from the get-go?

Did I insult you?

[half pawn]

So, when he said "a ring is an item type, a silver ring is an item base", that is literally the terminology used in many ARPGs. Not sure why you had this comeback

[small mulch]

No, in many MMOS, and ARPGS, Item class is used for specific class of items, such as weapons, helmets, rings, the types and base are used for specific TYPE of an item class. That's why the word TYPE is used.

[icy drift]

I was simply trying to help you out with the games terminology as there is no issue with that specific description. And instead you start to rant about how everything has to be a certain way, and when I try to tell you that it doesn't you go "the devs don't decide English buddy" and then you just keep ranting

[half pawn]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Best_in_slot_base_types

[sinful laurel]

Wait, isnt a class something that you attend in college?

[half pawn]

base type, not item type

[sinful laurel]

Isn't type something you do on a keyboard?

[icy drift]

Honestly gotta be one of the most childish interactions I've ever had on here, even more so because you're being serious and not trolling, absolutely despicable. You should consider learning how to communicate politely when in disagreement with something or someone, this is not the way to do it at all.

[half pawn]

@small mulch at this point i think you should put together a strongly worded essay and submit it to all of the PC gaming journals, describing, in 3000 words or less, why this item description is an abomination against nature

[icy drift]

I'm genuinely disgusted someone would act this way towards people trying to help

[sinful laurel]

What's crazy is Ive had several good and productive interactions with recluse overcthe last weeks. This is like some invasion of the body snatchers shit

[cinder fossil]

what a 2024 delay does to a mf

[half pawn]

i used to play Lost Ark with a guy that was decent when sober, but an absolute racist/sexist/offensive dipshit when drunk

also maybe his dog died or something. we dont know

[sterile widget]

In this server? Maybe another person, because that account joined the server today.

[small mulch]

Nothing happened to me personally stop trying to joke about my personal life or that something is wrong with me

[sinful laurel]

Oh. Shit. Maybe someone else then. Could a sworn their name was recluse

[icy drift]

Why are you acting like this then?

[sonic pagoda]

they aren't joking

[icy drift]

This is no way to act.

[sinful laurel]

This interaction is absolutely unhinged dude.

[small mulch]

Dude you stopped trying to talk to me cause I told you not to tell me to chill

[half pawn]

yeah, i'm not joking. i'm being a little bit snarky about it, but that's not a joke

[small mulch]

And claimed that my attitude is garbage

[icy drift]

Yeah because it is

[small mulch]

What kind of world are you living in? You can say whatever you want ot people but when people tells you something back

It's suddenly atrocious

[icy drift]

And I think everyone agrees it is

[small mulch]

Then to me, its garbage of your attitude to tell me to chill

when I was perfectly chilled

and asked a normal question

It goes both ways doesnt it?

[icy drift]

You were spamming messages and using all caps on several occasions

[small mulch]

I wasn't spamming

[half pawn]

it's possible that everyone in this channel except for you is part of a shared hallucination, and we're all befuddled and incorrect together

[small mulch]

Again, the definition of spamming is repeating the same sentence, word or context over short due of time, wether it be same emoji, text, etc, etc

[sterile widget]

I mean... as somebody who just read the whole interaction from the beginning, you seem pretty worked up about a possible grammar issue

[small mulch]

It was 1 question, asked, and elaborated.

[icy drift]

When I was trying to explain it to you, you kept sending messages as if I'm an idiot that doesn't understand what your question was

You repeated it like 3 times

[small mulch]

I don't care about what you make me seem or what you feel about how I felt

That doesn't make it close to reality

[sinful laurel]

That's not the ONLY definition of spamming. But thanks for proving our point

[icy drift]

I answered the question before your second message was even sent

[small mulch]

I know how i feel and I was pretty chilled

[half pawn]

it's also possible that we're all figments of your imagination, and you're still cruising along nicely in your solipsistic nirvana

[small mulch]

The thing is, you can't stand it when someone stands up against y'all and saying it how it is

[icy drift]

Now after that I tried to explain the linguistics of it

And you just wouldn't have any of it

[half pawn]

i've always aspired to be a really interesting figment of someone's imagination, so i'm willing to go with that explanation right now

[sterile widget]

Cool. Ok. So, what's the problem with the tooltip? It seem relatively OK to me.

[sinful laurel]

If you were saying how it is. Maybe

But you arent

[small mulch]

That's the issue, thats why you get so defensive and try to skim it off, again whatever float's y'all boats, as i said, 99% of this discord

wouldn't be able to explain that tooltip of the passive ability of the ranger

yet you claim everything is described just fine

Yet none of you could even understand the ability properly

[sterile widget]

There is no ranger in Last Epoch....

[small mulch]

rogue, ranger

[half pawn]

did somebody say ranger?!

[small mulch]

marksman

whatever you wanna call it

[icy drift]

I've never claimed to know what that marksman tooltip says or does

[half pawn]

shit, you guys beat me to it

[sonic pagoda]

relax english isn't his first language

[sinful laurel]

Oh no

[small mulch]

No, there's a difference between claiming you dont know anything about marksmen tooltip

and claiming that everyhting in LE is perfectly described

[half pawn]

i had to go find a viggo pic, to be fair

[small mulch]

And thats theres no issues

[icy drift]

Huh? I've claimed neither

But I'm still getting shat on for no reason

[sterile widget]

Isn't your issue with the Rune of Ascendance tooltip? I feell Ike maybe we're talking past each other here...

[small mulch]

Dont make such a statement, if it obviously isn't, and i wasn't referring to you Cyborg, the people i was referring to know exactly who they are

[sinful laurel]

No one ever said that either.

[small mulch]

No, i meant descriptions in geenral Skip, in this game

is garbage

Theres tons of things in this game that is basically written by a drunk guy

[icy drift]

Fair enough. I just want to understand why you were so mad from the get-go towards me though. Your messages carried a clear tone of anger

[sinful laurel]

You have given zero valid evidence of this broad and frankly extreme claim

[icy drift]

Maybe it wasn't directed towards me but towards the tooltip

Which is fine

But you were talking to me

Not the tooltip

[sterile widget]

Well, we don't know if they were drunk or not. If they were, a lot of it is pretty good to be honest.

[half pawn]

is this going to turn into an e-intervention? if so, do i have time to go get myself some more coke zero?

[small mulch]

Dude, i wasn't angry at you, or anything, you said you wanted to stop speaking to me, then i stopped referring to you, i talked to buro guy, then you come back and start saying things about how embarassing it is for a person to do this and that blabla, and claiming my attitude is shitt etc, becaues you felt like it since i told u not to tell me to chill

[sinful laurel]

This isn't going anywhere lol. You're good

[small mulch]

If you didn't kept talking to me i wouldn't keep tlaking to you after you said u'd stop

[icy drift]

I only stopped speaking to you because you were already being irate at that point

[small mulch]

Like, and then you guys try to claim that there's something wrong with me and pretend that oh dont worry maybe his dog died

or something happened irl

[sterile widget]

There's a whole channel for tooltip issues though @small mulch . If there are specific tooltip issues you want to highlight you can add them there.

[small mulch]

Like wtf

[faint cape]

I hope so, I'm a significantly better programmer when drunk

[small mulch]

you're attacking me personally but suddenly im the one with bad attitude

That's why i called you guys bunch of hypocrites

cause you can't stand someone standing up to y'all

[icy drift]

Look at your first few messages, before I stopped talking to you

And tell me you're not being irate

[small mulch]

That's how YOU FEEL it

[icy drift]

Like honestly calmly read through them

[small mulch]

that's subjective to YOU

[icy drift]

Like see how you're typing right now

[small mulch]

You asked me to CHILL, i said dont tell me to chill, im perfectly chilled

[icy drift]

How is that not irate

[small mulch]

It's not irate

because i capitalize and put emphasis on certain words

[icy drift]

You just don't know how to carry proper tone through text messages then kind sir

[sinful laurel]

Dude. Ive seen this whole convo, no one has insulted you. One person asked you if English was your first language. That's all

[small mulch]

Again, thats how YOU see it

How is calling someone a hypocrite an insult?

When he was acting hypocritical

are you serious

[faint cape]

So uh anyway, this is generally not productive, can we go back to just answering questions? I'm trying to avoid real life here lol

[half pawn]

https://xkcd.com/323/

xkcd: Ballmer Peak

Apple uses automated schnapps IVs.

[sinful laurel]

Daddy toast, bring us back

[small mulch]

And how is him basically indirectly saying im dumb, that i cant understand whats written since english isn't my native language, isn't an insult?

[icy drift]

Basically, the rune of ascendency tooltip is fine

Find something else to talk shit about

[small mulch]

Yea w/e toast, since i respect you, you got it

[icy drift]

There are plenty of busted tooltips

[small mulch]

Have a good day

[icy drift]

Go find them and put them in #tooltip-hunt

[sinful laurel]

Lol since you respect toast. You joined this discord today

[small mulch]

I joined this discord today? you literally said over the past week u've been having convos with me

You sure you're not drunk?

[sterile widget]

Ha.

[faint cape]

There's always a panel lol

[half pawn]

Toast hasn't insinuated that he was abused as a child or something, so he's still on his Nice List

[sinful laurel]

I was mistaken clearly. Thought you were someone else. I acknowledged that. But nice with the insults again.

[sterile widget]

I see what happening here

[small mulch]

No, it was the same person, that u had convos with

the same person we talked about rogue skills, and the things we tested out

and tried

There's no other vrecluse, i didn't join this discord today

[sterile widget]

Ok. Its time to stop feeding the troll folks.

[small mulch]

Ive asked Toast several times for help, and I asked for you as well

[sinful laurel]

Then this is absoltuely some invasion of the body snatchers, mind wipe, Manchurian candidate level shit. Holy christ

Yup. I'm out. Hands. Wiped

[half pawn]

it's november 6th. this dude be straight time travelin

[sonic pagoda]

It does indeed say they joined today

[small mulch]

Well then its a bug in discord

An easy search proves that

but w/e

[sonic pagoda]

That's the other vRecluse

[pastel pebble]

I'm home kids

[sinful laurel]

Boru. Tell us about some old dude that wrestled

[sterile widget]

Weird bug

[sinful laurel]

Please

[half pawn]

it's also possible that his discord credentials were leaked on the darknet and this is some CCP hacker here to wreak havoc, slowly and subtly

[sinful laurel]

Lol you're super conspiracy today. I'm here for it

[safe harness]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[pastel pebble]

Listen

IDK

I'm making green beans and potatoes

[safe harness]

how much butter?

[half pawn]

i'm in a pretty good mood and about to go get my 3LP Shackles, so hells yeah

[faint cape]

Add some onions to that and I'm in

[pastel pebble]

Lots.

[sterile widget]

Here's my Last Epoch related question...

Orobyss or Eterra - which faction you joining when they inevitably release it?

[faint cape]

[pastel pebble]

Orobyss is a hypocrite

[sterile widget]

Oh?! Please explain

[faint cape]

Eterra ditched us

[sterile widget]

That's true

Does this mean you have abandonment issues?

😏

[drowsy hornet]

Outcast queen

[sterile widget]

Oh dayum.

Fifth column

[sinful laurel]

That's a bold statement

[faint cape]

The Immortal Emperor did nothing wrong

[sinful laurel]

It was a perfect phone call. Clearly

[sterile widget]

It was just happenstance?

[pastel pebble]

I looked it up

I'm right

[sterile widget]

[vocal plank]

100% increased bleed duration meanz if the bleed lasts 3 seconds it lasts 6 right?

[surreal verge]

Yup

[vocal plank]

Is there a source is shorter duration but faster dot

[sinful laurel]

Taste of blood axe

[surreal verge]

Only source technically.

[vocal plank]

Oh yes I'm stupid. I even had that on my build

[fair flower]

I just equipped an item that gives me +15 ward per second. That part is working fine, but the ward is capping itself at 65. Why is that?

I have 478 health.

[surreal verge]

Ward retention

[fair flower]

That...does not seem intuitive. So the more ward you have, the faster it drains?

[surreal verge]

Unless countered with ward retention,gained via INT

And some other stuff

There’s a whole formula

(Ward is actually stupid strong when invested)

Tldr:more ward more drain,more ward retention less drain

[fair flower]

I see it now. Was asking in game as well and they pointed out some stuff.

Thanks for helping clear it up. Not sure if I'm loving ward or not.

[surreal verge]

It is pretty strong when built around,like 10k ward during combat is possible

[fair flower]

It's an interesting mechanic, I'll give it that

[latent maple]

what are the rewards for doing the arena?

[sudden trellis]

Whenever I unequip Gambler's Fallacy, my damage tooltip shows 100k less damage across the board, is it because with Gambler's Fallacy the tooltip counts for the next spell being crit or is it a visual bug? Because Gambler's Fallacy gives no damage increase flat or %

[sinful laurel]

Yes. Don't trust tooltip dps numbers

[opal nest]

Does "Health Gain on Block" are affected by Increased Healing Effectiveness?

[sinful laurel]

No

[opal nest]

i see, ty for the information

[desert tree]

If it does not say "Heals " its not affected by Healing Effect.

[opal nest]

ill keep that in mind

[lean jacinth]

why does this have no forging potential but is not unique?

straight off the floor

[surreal verge]

Personal items,intended (yellow affix is special)

[lean jacinth]

the suffix?

[surreal verge]

Yup

[lean jacinth]

useless for me as a lightning runecaster haha

[surreal verge]

The items are all very specific in that they will drop in the exact same tiers

They only come from chests you can only once per char

[cedar locust]

Potentially worth keeping should you decide to run a Marksman build though I imagine you might have better gear by Level 43

[zenith crescent]

is Enchant Weapon's Kindling Blade (auto recast) broken or am I misunderstanding...

[storm blaze]

It's bugged currently

[desert tree]

Work in town though

Does this work for both Skeletons and Mages Skeletons ?

[surreal verge]

No just normal SUmmon Skeletons

Otherwise it most likely would specify Skeletons

But it says exactly Summon Skeletons

[desert tree]

Can they do Spell ?

[surreal verge]

Good point, let me double check

Nope, so might be worth testing out

[zenith crescent]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/summon_skeleton/nodes

[cedar locust]

Some Summon Skeletons subskills do have the spell tag - Bone Armor for Skeleton Warriors for one, though I'm unsure if that counts as a Skelly Spell

[surreal verge]

But if the consistency rule is followed it should only affect the normal summon skeletons.

[surreal verge]

But that spell doesn't do damage, it's just a buff-

[cedar locust]

Yeah, this is why I'm confused. The wording makes it seem, on first glance, that all summoned skeleton types would benefit - however, like you said, if the rule of consistency is followed then it would only apply to Summoned Skeletons, excluding any Skeleton 'Class' summons

[surreal verge]

Back to the Mess around board-

[cedar locust]

I think they posted in Ask-the-Dev too, Mike will know 🙂

[faint cape]

Yeah, it definitely shouldn't. "Skeletons" is supposed to always refer to the minions from Summon Skeletons. Other minions even had their names changed to make it clearer a while back (Skeletal Mages, Skeletal Vanguards)

[digital nest]

Does increasing a Skills' damage always increase the skills subskill damage?

My inititial question was with Tornado's casting Lightning, but I think it's worth knowing in general

[icy drift]

Kinda, there are exceptions

[sinful laurel]

Generally if the subskill doesn't have its own tree it will take benefits from the proccing skills' tree. Generally

[icy drift]

Unless it's something like spark charge, since it's technically an ailment with no damage scaling that casts a spell with damage scaling

[digital nest]

..spark charge is an ailment?

[lean jacinth]

this any good for lightning runemaster?

[digital nest]

gotta see how it rolls

best of luck

[sinful laurel]

You apply an ailment, once it expires it procs the spell

[digital nest]

wild

[lean jacinth]

how does the 10 weavers work?

[icy drift]

@pale timber it really depends on what the affix says, if it's something kinda generic like "lightning skills have 30% increased critical strike chance" and your runebolt is all three elements, then all three elements get the crit chance

[pale timber]

thanks man, i appreciate it

wanna come disc ill show u something epic?

[icy drift]

Can't I'm on the tram 😛

But gl

[lean jacinth]

guessing 10 is good then for most rolls or upgrades?

[digital nest]

it's not a high number

but it's utterly rng

[lean jacinth]

cool - ty

[digital nest]

10 rolling good is better than 15 rolling bad

[sinful laurel]

Ideally over 20 is what you want to shoot for

[icy drift]

10 is pretty low , 8 is the lowest possible in area level 100

[lean jacinth]

so much to learn

awesome

puts D4 to shame haha

[sinful laurel]

That gives you the possibility for a 7/7/6, but 20 is decently rare. Anything over 20 is jackpot

[icy drift]

Lul

[native sail]

Isn't it 5 is the lowest possible though?

[dark saddle]

Why is this game using so much RAM and GPU?

[native sail]

Unoptimized.

[dark saddle]

like jesus how an ARPG lagging my entire system lol

[native sail]

Uh... it definitely shouldn't be lagging your whole machine, that might be outside the scope of the game

[icy drift]

Arpgs are among the more intensive gaming genres to run in my experience lol

Atleast when it comes to Poe and some other modern ones

[dark saddle]

I'm not sure how, they are not typically the most graphically intensive

[icy drift]

It's not to do with graphics

[native sail]

It's because there's a shit ton going on in the background, not because they look nice

[icy drift]

It's to do with the sheer amount of calculations going on in the background

[dark saddle]

makes sense

[icy drift]

They're computationally intensive, not graphically intensive if that makes sense

[dark saddle]

but even d3, d4 or PoE NEVER did anything like this

[native sail]

Same way that one meme chess game on Steam can slow to a snail's pace on the strongest PC really

[icy drift]

Uhhh

Idk about that

Might be something wrong

You can easily make Poe way more intensive than you ever can LE

[dark saddle]

like I'm sitting 5-7gb of ram JUST from LE

[native sail]

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[dark saddle]

Just sitting idle in an echo too

I got curious so I'm getting my virtual memory usage too cause this is nuts

checking*

[icy drift]

Some people do experience memory leaks

Try restarting the game

[dark saddle]

I restarted and reinstalled

this is the next step of troubleshooting lol

Any settings I can fuck with?

either in windows or game

[icy drift]

Not sure, I don't experience the same issue

[cedar locust]

You can try increasing your page file size, it's helped other players with this issue

[lean jacinth]

well - guess thats a rip

lol

[dark saddle]

currently sitting at 25.6 page file

26.5GB, sorry

but it's using my HDD so could also be part of it

oh wait, would I need to allocate virtual memory on the drive the game is install on, or does it not realy matter?

[pastel pebble]

Overstacking Cold res is useful for a certain unique

[lean jacinth]

ooh, do tell

[lean jacinth]

nice, shame i'm lightning

worth keeping though for sure

[cedar locust]

I'm not sure on the specifics as I've never had to go through the process however having it on an SSD may help

[native sail]

The frostbite/freeze part is generally ignored, it gets used because the retention is really, really, really strong

[lean jacinth]

yeah pretty much shield sup all the time i reckon

[native sail]

It enables Rogue to get like 10k+ ward when combined with good Exsanguinous and Last Steps

[dark saddle]

Kk will try that

[vivid depot]

Short question, are multiplayer issues still present or is it mostly working smoothly atm? We are considering to start a fresh duo run so just wanna know if we need to avoid some specific things that don't work atm.

[digital nest]

I play exclusively coop and haven't had any issues

Even dungeons work now

There's a situation that can cause ground textures not to load for the joining player for echos sometimes, just tp to town and back and it's fine

[vivid depot]

Lovely. Was mostly thinking about movement abilities straight up not working etc. or causing heavy desync.

If that's all workable now it's time to game

[digital nest]

Oh, also rarely someone will get separated from the character model. Same fix, tp out and back

I haven't noticed any movement or desync issues

[vivid depot]

lovely Thank you ❤️

[misty helm]

are the base dmg and speed value of spells hiding somewhere? reverse engineering it is fine on some spells, but things like hungering souls have two components.

[native sail]

You can check LETools

[faint cape]

For most stuff, it's on LE Tools

[native sail]

It should all be there

[misty helm]

hrmm, didnt see it last time, I go check meow

[faint cape]

You can also just be lazy and assume standard base damage (equivalent to +20 spell damage)

[misty helm]

yeah, that was working for single portion spells

ty, I found it and was just blind

it looks like possess works way different than I assumed as well

it has no necrotic tag? or is that just assumed with the necro dmg part?

doesnt have int tag either, so no scaling off int?

[native sail]

Possess should inherit damage modifiers from the main skill due to being inherently linked

[misty helm]

if possess is just a non-stackable damned... then thats way off what I was envisioning

yeah, tree has a lot to do with possess

tooltip mentions added damage ratios for each portion

nothing about additional increased*

assume same rate there? or doesn't apply?

[sudden trellis]

is static orb significantly better than static?

[wary girder]

Can anyone shed light on my question in the Rogue section? #🔪┃rogue message

[faint cape]

It's basically the same kind of thing as spirit plague, it deals spell necrotic DOT and has an added damage effectiveness, things generally apply like you would assume

[native sail]

Can you post a screenshot of the thing real quick?

[wary girder]

Sure!

So the poison duration and chance make sense, but is the effect damage? Like 15% of my poison damage modifiers?

[faint cape]

Ah, no. But if you get the ballista damage ratio node, that will carry over your ailment damage stats.

[native sail]

Got it. Okay, so ailment effect is actually not a stat that's really around much, any sources of it do effectively the same thing as resistance penetration for that ailment.

[wary girder]

Oh gotcha, thanks!

[wary girder]

Not sure I understand what this means, sorry!

[faint cape]

Oh yeah, that, "penetration for bleed" for example probably counts as "ailment effect"

[native sail]

It might honestly be something they need to fix because ailment effectiveness is pretty much gone to my knowledge

[faint cape]

Yeah, it might just not work, though I'm kinda assuming they just renamed ailment effect to penetration for the ailment and just need to update some text

[dark saddle]

Alright so I partioned some VM from my SSD and performed a windows memory diagnostic and it found no errors. It seems to working alright now, no frame spikes or lag spikes. Strangely enough RAM usage drops dramatically as the gaming session goes on.

[acoustic thicket]

still new to this game what exactly do relic do

[buoyant sinew]

they're just a normal equipment slot

like an amulet or something

[acoustic thicket]

are they like set that give you more stuff with more equipped

[desert tree]

There are some but most of the time you won't be running one

[acoustic thicket]

ok thank you

[lean jacinth]

whats the general concensus with monolith? close up asap or go for bonus stability?

[sinful laurel]

Asap

[wicked plover]

most efficient way to farm specific exalted items? look for sanctum modifier and kill everything?

or gamble dungeon

[exotic jungle]

Hi guys. Back after a couple of days - is anyone else having issues with the "Enter Game" button in offline mod? Literally none of my characters are playable and new characters just hang after their class' intro.
Can anyone give me at least a pointer? I've reported this issue at least a dozen times, with no feedback.

[exotic jungle]

I guess that answers that...

Thanks, 11th Hour Games...

[pastel pebble]

What answers that?

Did you just report this or is this a longer issue?

Also have you verified your files?

[exotic jungle]

Hi, Borungenes. A couple of days ago I went into detail about everything I've tried, so I'll try to TL;DR it.

So far, I've:

1. Verified the integrity of the files via Steam
2. Uninstalled the game and reinstalled in the same directory
3. Deleted some of the folders of the game so I can redownload them via point 1
4. Uninstalled the game in a different directory than the previous one mentioned in 2
5. Changed every possible setting of the game hoping I just changed something without remembering and the game didn't like it (COPIUM)
6. Tried creating a new character, as existing ones are locked behind the "Enter Game" button (the game hangs)

and some others I probably forgot.

This started happening around 3-4 days ago.

[pastel pebble]

Sometimes it can take a while for the support team to answer. They are a small team so it can take them some days. I assume your computer specs have no disagreements with the game's requirements? And how are the old ones unplayable? More info may help us deduce what it could be

I'm no techie though but someone else here may recognize it or we may be able to piece more info together to follow up to Support and reach out again

[sinful laurel]

One thing you can try is a full clean reinstall but with also deleting the last epoch folder in users/user/appdata. And then when you reinstall try reinstalling to a non windows protected folder i.e. no program files x86

[pastel pebble]

Yeah, Primeval is more literate than I

[exotic jungle]

You mean from "Documents" in C? - done thati f that's what you mean.

[sinful laurel]

No. Users/user/appdata/local is the actual path iirc.

User being your name ofc

You might need to show hidden folders if you don't see appdata

[exotic jungle]

I'll have a look. I'll be floored if that works.

Thanks for the suggestions!

[misty helm]

can a glyph of despair be used while adding an affix, instead of upgrading? will it have a chance to add as a sealed? or is it just a wasted glyph and I need to use a hope first?

[desert tree]

Wasted

[candid elm]

I believe it needs to be used when upgrading, like on an existing T1-T4 affix

[misty helm]

ty ty

can you use an exalted with a sealed affix to upgrade a legendary if you remove a non-steal one and have it at 4 total?

aka, have 3 prefix chances?

[sterile widget]

You said you've reported the issue. Is that through in game function?

If so you might want to reach out to official support channel (support.lastepoch.com)

Also, bear in mind most of their staff are probably north america timezone, so support is probably fairly non-existent over their weekend.

[ivory mantle]

New to the game, played up to around lvl 30 a year or two ago, wanted to get back into things with a funky build idea and looking for suggestions.

I want to do umbral blade rogue, and add bees to it. Right now I'm planning for umbral blades, shift, and acid flask. But I'm not sure where to go from there, I have a pair of beekeeper gloves but that's about where that ends.

[sterile widget]

As long as you are willing to accept funky might limit viability as you get further in the game, anything with bees is funny 😄

[ivory mantle]

I've already read umbral blades isn't optimal so I thought I might as well include bees to make it more fun

[sterile widget]

Theres a bunch more uniques and stuff to do since years ago too.

[ivory mantle]

I've seen the hive helm and theres like an idol for acid flask, but I'm wondering if there's some way to make umbral turn enemies into bee pinatas

[desert tree]

The Cache only looks at the 4 Affixes non sealed. If you have 3 non sealed and 1 sealed it's not a 4 Affixes items for the cache. So no

[misty helm]

rip

ty

so I could use a 5 affix item if I wanted, and the sealed wouldnt have a chance?

[buoyant sinew]

right

[desert tree]

Yep, Sealed Affix do not interact with the cache

From the Game Guide (Press "G")

[wary girder]

Hey guys! Was wondering if anyone knew if venom infusion worked with contamination shots? It says i have an increased chance only with bow attacks, but technically the ballista's attack is a bow attack

[misty helm]

aight, can someone help me break this down correctly? I have to add a prefix to use this glyph, yes? which means it will have 5 affixes, not the 4 this list gives?

or I can just use any shard and the glyph right meow to get the ward/hp?

[icy drift]

for gloves the amount of affixes you have doesn't matter

it's just the total affix tiers

[misty helm]

the total being other 3, or other 4, or all 5 (assuming a sealed affix T2+)

[icy drift]

oh i get what you're saying

[misty helm]

yeah, vocab here is vague for sure

[icy drift]

don't think it counts the sealed affix

so right now you're at 3 affixes with 18 affix tiers i think

not 100% sure though

[faint cape]

So in general, yes it receives all your ailment stats. For that in particular, I'd recommend testing since it's not a typical modifier. You will definitely need to have the buff on you at the moment you spawn the ballista (it snapshots stats on creation).

[misty helm]

this is what I got after using it on a T3 prefix in its slot

so I am thinking it ignores the one you are changing, and the sealed? can you double check my math on that?

[icy drift]

you sure it was T3?

and not T4?

i can't make it work lol

[misty helm]

yeah, I went from empty, crit normal

so when I used the glyph the readout was 6, 3, 5, 5, (2)

[icy drift]

actually hold on let me check something

yup

i got it

you needed to use the bottom formula

it does count sealed affixes

so you had 5 affixes with 21 tat