❔┃ask-the-community

[sinful laurel]

No, not generally

You can get much more mileage out of a 100% void DMG affix

But str doesn't hurt to have

If you have some then yay, but you don't attrivute stack generally unless your build actually scales something specifically from it

[leaden tundra]

how does that work into the damage calculation of the skill excatly is it part of the increased portion

[sinful laurel]

It's just another source of increased damage

So additive with other increased sources

[pastel pebble]

Rive lacks a Void conversion BTW

So all generic flat is physical on Rive

[leaden tundra]

so then in that case 25 str would be equal to that 100% void dmg affix

[sinful laurel]

Yup but no item has 25 str on it

[leaden tundra]

ah okay tyty

[dapper steeple]

Hey ! What are the strongest build actually in LE ?

[native sail]

T7 chest can I think

[sinful laurel]

The one you like the most

[native sail]

But also

Lmao

[sinful laurel]

Oh actually I think deias is right haha. But yes. Oof

[leaden tundra]

so str can be good on some armor peieces as a place holder but survivability prob more impotant on those ?

[native sail]

Oh 100% survivability is the most important part of gearing

[sinful laurel]

Well str is a prefix

Generally survivability affixes are suffixes

Generally

[leaden tundra]

ah okay

[sinful laurel]

Again. Don't hard focus str unless you have an actual reason too

[leaden tundra]

setting up this loot filer i have been at this for over 2 hours lmao

this shit is way mre complicated than d4

XD

[sinful laurel]

Better*

Way more better

[leaden tundra]

way less than poe since i got past the story in this game

[faint cape]

Attributes typically give a little defense + a little offense, so a little more balanced but less damage, and really nice when you have something else that amps your attribute scaling like mentioned

[unreal sonnet]

does this passive work when i cast abyssal echoes passively through warpath?

[faint cape]

Typically trigger casts like that don't work for effects like that, but abyssal echoes is wonky. I'd recommend testing it, I'm pretty sure that effect has a buff icon.

[buoyant sinew]

the wording norm is that if it doesn't work on triggers it will say "when you directly cast" I think? I don't know whether that's consistently implemented

[ionic mica]

Is there a POB like planner to have a more accurate dps/tankyness gauge. or is the ingmae tooltip decent enough

[buoyant sinew]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ is the best planner, it doesn't really have damage calculations yet but that's something the creator wants to add

at least there is a target dummy in this game you can use to test damage

[ionic mica]

ah i see

[leaden tundra]

when crafting when does an items level increase and when an items level increases does it implicit also increase with it

[ionic mica]

so just hit test dummy and eyeball then

but hard to see all those flying numbers with lighting blast though XD

[native sail]

Implicit has nothing to do with level, that's just the base item's implicit. It never actually changes. The level requirement increases with the total affix tiers.

[leaden tundra]

i increased the tier of an affix but item level didnt increase how does it excatly work

[buoyant sinew]

the level required to equip an item increases based on the tiers of affixes on the item, yes (though it won't let you craft an item you can't equip on your current character)

the base type and implicit don't change as a result of this

[native sail]

I'm not sure if anyone has bothered grabbing the data for exactly when the level requirement increases

[buoyant sinew]

if you've got a low level weapon there's no way to make it have more implicit flat damage on it, if that's what you mean

or anything like that

you just need to get a new item

[leaden tundra]

ah so it does always increase its level

acuse i took an affix from t1 to t5 lvl req didnt hcange

[buoyant sinew]

as far as I can tell it's based on both the sum of tiers and the highest tier

but I don't know the exact rules

[leaden tundra]

ah okay ty

[native sail]

In some scenarios it may not increase for a bit depending on the base item itself (because some bases have a higher level requirement than others), so it may remain static until the tiers outpace the base

[leaden tundra]

do devs have any plans of making only the affixes that can apply on an item show up in loot filter?

[native sail]

I don't recall them ever mentioning it

[leaden tundra]

ah that ouwld be nice change

[jolly karma]

How good is the cold dot werebear these days, still viable?

[native sail]

Still very viable yes

[unreal sonnet]

it will tell you the dps when you hover over the skills icon

[faint cape]

Level req for magic/rare/exalted items is:

  • each affix tier has a value [1, 3, 6, 10, 14, 15, 16]
  • The Affix Level is the sum of the values of its affixes' tiers, plus twice the value of its highest tier affix, minus 10
  • So for an item with a tier 3 affix, and a tier 5 affix, the Affix Level would be 6 + 14 + (2 * 14) - 10 which is 38.

or it's the level req of the item subtype, if that's higher

[buoyant sinew]

oh nice thank you

[ionic mica]

so you;re saying the ingame tooltip is accurate enough?

[unreal sonnet]

idk accurate enough for me

[buoyant sinew]

it's basically similar to PoE, it's accurate within its scope but doesn't include debuffs on enemies and some conditional stuff

[ionic mica]

icic

[void pine]

I'm level 15 and got a bug where I can't see the item drop names nor can I pick them up. A unique dropped and I want to know how to get it

[native sail]

Hit Alt+Z

[void pine]

Didn't work. Is there a place uniques get sent if you miss them?

[sinful laurel]

No

[void pine]

Wow. Really?! That's bs

So, I just lose a unique because game won't let me pick it up? Great!

[native sail]

Can try just hitting Z

Some people it's alt+z some others it's just Z

[void pine]

Nope. I'm just screwed.

Someone told me to go to monolith for lost items so I'm going there

[native sail]

There is no lost item system whoever told you that is lying

[lost jasper]

Lich or bladedancer for 1st character?
how much fun is it to play them compared? (fun > power)

[native sail]

BD is strong, quick, and inevitably goes further. It also has a lot more variety to it than Lich does.

[lost jasper]

what about unique requirements, for which of the 2 classes would I theoretically grind longer

[buoyant sinew]

that depends on the build you pick more than the class

[native sail]

^

You can play a build that requires zreo uniques from start to finish or you could pick one that transitions into rather hard to find stuff on the same class

[lost jasper]

gotcha

aight thx a lot for input

[buoyant sinew]

this is a personal bias but I try to avoid recommending lich to new players because it kind of forces you into a playstyle based around keeping up buffs that don't have 100% uptime and that can feel frustrating

[native sail]

I think Lich is kinda mid as a whole

[lost jasper]

in another words would you recoment a different class/mastery over bladedancer(lich just sounded cool)?

[buoyant sinew]

nothing wrong with blade dancer, it's got a bunch of strong builds without the weird quirks of lich

other classes are good too of course but if you like the sound of bd play it

[lost jasper]

already started a bd char, just asking in case it ends up not being my cup of tea

[buoyant sinew]

ah ok. well if you just want strong and versatile recommendations druid is currently the place to be I guess

[native sail]

Druid is by no means a bad pick

[lost jasper]

aight I will put about 30lvls into blade and then the same for druid see which one I like more, thx a lot!

[jolly karma]

Can you force life leech/life on kill permanently if you want to stay on low life some how?

[steel merlin]

force?

[leaden tundra]

might be silly question but if i have sword axe dual wield i get both passives right

[steel merlin]

yes you get both

[leaden tundra]

and how do u choose whether u should go crit or not?

[jolly karma]

I have life on kill to make my build work, but it keeps leeching up my life to max, making my lowlife mechanic useless. Maybe i just need better ward retention.

[native sail]

Are you a hit build? Go crit

[buoyant sinew]

you should pretty much always go crit unless you're a damage over time build

[buoyant sinew]

what class are you

[jolly karma]

Druid, werebear lowlife

[native sail]

Take off life on kill, or geat a Peak of The Mountain if you're crit. Or if you want a bandaid fix I think there's a neck for it

[buoyant sinew]

xithara's conundrum? the brute force solution?

[leaden tundra]

ah okay tyty

[jolly karma]

That's actually not a bad idea, ty

[native sail]

Yeah that

[jolly karma]

That worked, having some rage issues, but it's not a biggie. It will hold me over until i can overcap cold res some how for ward retention.

[leaden tundra]

lagon kinda rough huh

[sinful laurel]

Build check

[leaden tundra]

xd

durability check

[sinful laurel]

Same thing

[leaden tundra]

xd

is my loot filter too harsh i made it so it would only show items with atleast 2 of the affixes i need

[sinful laurel]

For a brand new player starting out low level? Probably

[buoyant sinew]

@leaden tundraI recommend if you want to do that to have it scale the minimum quality of items it shows with your character's level

[candid elm]

you also probably don't want to be hiding some base item upgrades. while you're leveling, the next tier base weapon may be an upgrade, just from the damage implicit on it.

[buoyant sinew]

also true

[lost jasper]

is there currently a bug, when you enter 2nd "floor" in arbor's dungeon you insta die?

[leaden tundra]

i dont quite understand

[buoyant sinew]

for example, have quite bad items with like 1 desirable thing show up at character level <20 where your gear sucks and those might still be an upgrade, and have it scale up so that by character level 80 or whatever it's only showing items with quite high desirable tier sums

[leaden tundra]

yeah i geuss that make sense since i am wearing lvl 5 gear being lvl 50

LOLO

what is this tier of item?

like rare etc

[native sail]

Purple items are exalted, they have an affix at tier 6 or 7, higher than craftable

[faint cape]

Hard to tell from this pic since we can't see the affixes. I'd guess it's a rare though, based on the FP.

Experimental affixes kinda overtake the typical tooltip color scheme

[native sail]

Experiementals that are rare have a bit of yellow I think?

[faint cape]

Only on the icon in the inventory, in the tooltip it's just totally experimental color

[native sail]

Ah

[cold brook]

my first and only loot filter is: stop showing me white and blue items. But I'm too new to know if I actually need them for like... dismantling fodder.

[sinful laurel]

Don't show white and blue and then make a higher rule showing affixes you want, including blue. So you can removal desired affixes from blues but not see them all

[runic jackal]

So the show 'this affix' overrules the hide if both are same rarity?

[sinful laurel]

Higher rules override lower rules

[runic jackal]

Higher on the board then?

[sinful laurel]

Yes, ascending order

[runic jackal]

Aight thanks. Just started creating my own yesterday

Any must haves filters for acolyte or in general?

[faint cape]

I always highlight any idols with "bee" affixes

they are primarily meme items, but super rare anyway lol

[runic jackal]

Bee?😅 still noob

[cold brook]

https://tenor.com/view/bees-deltora-quest-bee-meme-deltora-quest-gif-21153737

Is there anything to do with junk items besides sell in shop? I believe the game is designed for you not to do that, because they sell for almost nothing, but just curious if there is a purpose to picking up junk?

[native sail]

Shatter them for shards

[cold brook]

You do that with the runes?

[pearl canopy]

Don't pick them up. Loot filters are 100% mandatory in this game from about level 20 onwards.

[faint cape]

Exactly, shatter runes or removal runes to get shards from items that have good/rare affixes (or just ones you need)

[native sail]

Yeah. But generally we filter out a LOT of items we don't need to see.

[cold brook]

I've just downloaded a loot filter from maxroll. crazy

[runic sedge]

that's not true at all, I usually don't bother putting on a loot filter until monos.

[native sail]

Not mandatory but heavily encouraged

[pearl canopy]

Then you are wasting your time. No point spending time comparing items when you can have a filter that just shows only the items you need.

[visual osprey]

Hi everyone! Does anyone happen to know if the paladin talent Mail Crusher increase all damage, specificly ignite dps, or just the raw DPS of the held mace/scepter?

The tooltip is sorta confusing.

[runic sedge]

That doesn't still doesn't make it mandatory. Mandatory would be getting a loot filter in PoE.

[buoyant sinew]

it's all damage, works on ignite

[pearl canopy]

Apologies for using hyperbole to get a valid point across.

[vague cloak]

I've played this game for some time now but always leveling new and new and new but never do endgame so im finally at endgame and im running empowered now. But i feel clueless. I have played all night and done 85 echoes and im just 105 corruption and i havent found these special echoes like memory and chaos? Am i doing something wrong?

[visual osprey]

I love you! Thanks ❤️

Oh, another question if anyone can help. Ignite damage only increases via DoT Damage, Fire Damage, Ele damage?
So the raw weapon dps or hit damage in general from the skill applying doesnt matter?

Would attack speed, for more applications, be the best scaling for it besides more chance to ignite%?

[sinful laurel]

damage bonuses from the applying skill absolutely benefit the ailment, and are one of the best ways of increasing damage in a lot of cases

any node that doesnt specify "on hit" generally affects applied ailments

[buoyant sinew]

correct, flat damage doesn't matter for ignite (whether that's from your weapon, skill base damage, or any other source)

attack/cast speed is great for it to apply more stacks, yes. same with getting as much ignite chance as possible.

importantly, percentage damage modifers from the tree of the skill applying the ignite will apply, as long as they're not specifically hit damage/melee damage/etc. so picking a skill that hits frequently and has lots of applicable damage modifiers is generally the go for ailments

[sinful laurel]

flat weapon damage or flat damage on gear does not though

[visual osprey]

Awesome, I just started the game so im dicking around trying to make a super defensive paladin that just throws hammers to stack ignites, seems to be working really well right now but im only lvl 40 so wanted to see if I was going to hit some big walls soons.

[sinful laurel]

you may, but fuck around and find out is the best way

if you hit a wall, readjust and keep going

[visual osprey]

yeah, so far I can stick about 22 ignites on a boss

[sinful laurel]

just fyi, 22 is ok for untwinked at 40

but is very low overall

my cinder melee tops out at 800 stacks or so iirc, with perfect rotations

[visual osprey]

thats nutty

[sinful laurel]

nah you will get there, just wanted to get you some perspective

hammer builds can get a LOT of hits

especially once you can start adding in smites and some other synergistic mechanics

[buoyant sinew]

and specific uniques can give you a lot of ignite chance

[visual osprey]

Yeah thats my thought process, do you know if this can also apply the ignite stacks?

[sinful laurel]

yup

yes

anything you do that hits takes your ignite chance

[visual osprey]

yeah im doing ssf so I didnt want to even look at uniques

awesome, thanks for all the help everyone!

[buoyant sinew]

the only problem is that they'll be lower damage ignites since there's no skill tree for axe throw

[sinful laurel]

truth

but stacks are stacks

[buoyant sinew]

everyone is more or less ssf right now, you get a lot of uniques (especially once you reach endgame)

you can reliably farm most of them yourself

[sinful laurel]

yup, finding most uniques here isnt the problem

[visual osprey]

well thats good to know

[sinful laurel]

getting ones with LP and then smashing in a good exalted, that is the chase

[visual osprey]

LP?

[sinful laurel]

legendary potential

you will find uniques with 1-4 LP, and this is the number of affixes they can take randomly from an exalted (purple) item of the same base.

you will start to find exalted items at around level 45 ish

[visual osprey]

o.o thats awesome

[pearl canopy]

Which dungeon is the LP crafting thing in again? Need to remember to prioritize those keys.

[cedar zodiac]

People, could someone explain to me if there is trade in the game?

[native sail]

Temporal Sanctum

[native sail]

Not yet, there will be when 1.0 comes out

!trade

[ripe brook]

Our latest plans on Trade, and Factions can be found here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-development-update-introducing-merchants-guild-and-circle-of-fortune-factions/51994.

[cedar zodiac]

thx men

[visual osprey]

Does this all look "fine" for current level?

[cedar zodiac]

Unfortunately I didn't find a Latin community... I'm going to have to wait for the game to be released in 1.0 to see how it goes.

[native sail]

I'm not aware of anyone who has made a community for that. Which is odd to me cuz I know I have seen mentions of a Portueguese one, Chinese, French, and German before.

[cedar zodiac]

There is no one who makes content in Spanish according to what I saw... and it demotivates me a little xD

[leaden tundra]

do channel skills snapshot?

[native sail]

I think so?

[sinful laurel]

Yes

Main reason channeled flurry multishot works so well

[cedar zodiac]

Does the game have global chat by languages? or is it 1 only in English?

[native sail]

I don't know exactly how it separates, I know there's Russian and Korean chats separated

[copper wolf]

is there a way to know which affix shards are more rare than others? its getting to the point that Runes of Shattering are probably cheaper for me than buying new stash tabs

[native sail]

Rare shards show up in orange on the ground, other than that you just kinda have to know. Usually things that are class specific are rarer than others.

[copper wolf]

cool cool. I suppose I can prioritize shattering stuff i need for my build, then stuff I don't have a lot of shards for

ty

[candid elm]

I look out for ones that used for my current builds, class specific ones like +skill, and less common ones like Hybrid Health and Penetration. I've stopped shattering the ones I have 100+ of now, though.

[copper wolf]

thanks, I appreciate it

[void pine]

What takes priority in terms of modifiers, skills or gear?

[native sail]

What do you mean by priority?

[void pine]

Like, I have a passive I can get that limits me to a single companion. Well, I also have an amulet that increases my companion count

[native sail]

Cannot always takes priority over can, regardless of source

[void pine]

Oh, I see what you are saying

[unkempt sand]

quick question about freeze: Is this calculated as a straightforward stat effect chance where i take my total freeze rate, subtract a monster's freeze resist, and that's my chance to freeze a monster, or is this like path of exile in which freeze rate is also affected by the ratio of damage to monster HP?

[native sail]

Yeah it's weird phrasing due to the words they use in game

[native sail]

It's the latter

Well sorta

It's freeze rate to monster HP

Freeze rate is a skill-by-skill basis

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/freeze

[unkempt sand]

got it thanks for that

[fleet marsh]

How am I supposed to kill bosses that seem to have invisible bubbles around them that block projectiles?

surely it's a bug

it's like they're surrounded by terrain walls

[unkempt sand]

which boss?

[fleet marsh]

pernnion and amalgamation so far

[unkempt sand]

which projectiles are doing this? I've never seen this happen

[safe harness]

It’s bugged

[leaden tundra]

how do i finish this long detour quest

[candid elm]

I believe you just keep going. Some enemies will come for your to fight and it will auto update to the next step.

[warped cloak]

Hey Guys

I just died in Hardcore mode and am now in Softcore, I do believe.

Can anyone confirm what that entails?

I've seen something along the lines of not being able to be placed in the Ladder on Softcore Servers?

Is that true?

And is anything else of note important to be aware of?

[ionic mica]

how importnat is res here, is it like POE where getting capped is absolutley necessary?

[warped cloak]

res?

[lapis minnow]

for weavers will should you wait to level those up until higher levels, im not sure if the mod pool is limited at lower levels

[lapis minnow]

Not as much, you can get away with having 0s in certain reses, in POE its multiplicative, here it is not

[ionic mica]

which ones are the most important or most common to run into?

[faint cape]

Phys is most common, but also armor is more effective vs. phys. If you neglect any in general, it's usually poison. I wouldn't recommend neglecting any of them completely since they are a super easy defensive layer.

If you have 0% resists, you just take 75% more damage than you would at cap. Usually just getting near cap will do you fine.

[surreal verge]

Nope, it doesn't care about your level.

[surreal verge]

You won't be on the hardcore leaderboards.

[warped cloak]

Nor softcore I have read

[surreal verge]

Yup

[rare yacht]

is the kindling blade node on the spellblade's enchant weapon broken? It wont recast

[wooden stirrup]

If I have a spell that costs 1 mana, is it possible to drop it down to zero thanks to mana efficiency ?

is there a "rounded up" if the mana cost becomes .49 or .20 ?

[boreal zenith]

Do timeline quest bosses count as "rare enemies" for modifiers that affect those?

[safe harness]

No

[pearl sinew]

Is there a build that can delete t4 julra in 2 seconds? I really need a reliable way to farm her

[safe harness]

Most builds that can do it in 2 seconds are bugged. Maybe lowlife earthquake

[warped finch]

I just found a bug where I completed The Lance of Heorot questline without even doing anything.

I don't know what to do now. I want to experience that quest.

[boreal zenith]

Does Judgement's cast animation speed scale with cast speed, melee attack speed, or both? I realize it has both tags because of the two halves of the ability, but the tooltip only implies the damage scaling is split.

[steel merlin]

Attack

At its core, it is an attack that does extra stuff

Just that it is a lot of extra stuff

[boreal zenith]

So using it will never proc anything that requires using a spell?

[surreal verge]

...WAIT

That would explain Ailgnment's interaction

[runic jackal]

Goodday, are there any good 3rd party UI programs that work with Last Epoch? I like to sort my UI to my logic 😅

[surreal verge]

Don't think those exist.

[vocal plank]

Is AG good for Forge Guard? Never made one before but in my xp from other games AG is good

[steel merlin]

manifest armor? yes

[rugged sinew]

Play a runemaster and just perma freeze Julra with snap freeze

Lol

No need for high dps

If the boss can't attack

Or use skills

Anyone know if all 3 glacier explosion can hit the same enemy assuming stationary boss like Julra?

[vocal plank]

Yea after looking at the numbers, not taking it is a bad idea

[vocal plank]

Isn't there a node for that on the tree

[unreal hinge]

Yeah, but it kills all the damage by disabling crit multi

[rugged sinew]

I want to know if it does without the node

[knotty tinsel]

you can make it big enough to overlap them I would assume

but idk how many sources of inc AoE you can squeeze in

also Julra isn't stationary, I wish she was

stop running away boss battle lady

wait that sounds terrible out of context. fixed

[broken burrow]

you just lost your HC stash, i believe that's all

[amber rain]

Hey a question about the Immolator's Oblation belt: How does this stat "(46% to 100%) Chance to Ignite yourself when you use a Fire or Necrotic Skill" work with triggered skills? Does it work at all when skills are triggered? If you trigger multiple instances of a skill at once is that counted as 1 or multiple uses for the self ignite?

[knotty tinsel]

it's worth testing to make sure, but if something is gated from happening on triggered skills it usually says "when you DIRECTLY use xyz"

I'm not sure what you mean with instances of a skill though, what's the specific example?

[amber rain]

Like if I convert Maelstrom to necrotic with Yulia's boots and cast 4 Maelstroms on Swarmblade dive

[knotty tinsel]

huh. I don't actually know, that's a weird one, and pretty cool if it works

I don't have the belt or I'd hop in to check right now

[amber rain]

I'm always looking for weird synergies and unfortunately a lot of niche stuff isn't easy to find information on haha

[knotty tinsel]

you might run into the problem of swarmblade not really having many spells, practically speaking

it's maelstrom and tornado, or some niche gear options

but I love the way you think

[amber rain]

Yea pretty much full focus on these 2 skills

Do you think that belt stat works on fire or necrotic spells triggered by items?

[knotty tinsel]

I'd guess that it does yeah. even if the self-ignite doesn't, the spell damage works on everything

the question remains if Water Strider counts as one spell cast or four 🤔

[broken burrow]

i sent you a DM daveed

@amber rain

[knotty tinsel]

I wanna know too if you figure it out

[tall wolf]

Why doesn't this skill node have an indicator to show that it is active?

[narrow python]

Why are there so many negative reviews on the steam page recently?

[broken burrow]

anyone familiar with abyssal echoes converted to fire healing and attunement? Ping me please

[icy drift]

Seem pretty good to me

[cedar locust]

I'm not sure any programs exist that do that, however the only third party program 'green lit' by the team is Yolomouse so if you did use a program to modify your game you open yourself up to potential action from the team depending on what that program did and how it works.

[silver robin]

silly question but can all unique items have LP? or are some just common uniques with no LP at all

[surreal verge]

Yes, but some uniques have a lower chance of getting LP.

[tired furnace]

Hi community! I am stuck in the campaign, not sure what I am doing wrong. Killed spymaster, ran the zone twice, logged out overnight - still stuck. Maj waystation is entirely blocked - I cannot find or speak to alric.

FYI there is a hazy entrance left of this imafge - someone in game told me...

[pine nova]

hey quick question, what exactly does "size" do for minions?

[hollow ledge]

Hey guys, Ive been eyeing this game for a little bit and thought Id come here to see if it would be a good choice for me. Im a player that loves min maxxing, maxing all possible classes and build tinkering in all of them, and doing as much endgame stuff as there possibly is. Do you guys think this game would be a good pickup for me? D4 super boring atm and I need something else to do.

[stuck jewel]

Why is sometimes nothing coming out of the rune prison, am I missing something?

[candid elm]

If I remember correctly, there's normally a glowy area transition thing you can click around this point. You're then moved to an area further along to continue the quest.

[candid elm]

Was it a rune prison right by where you spawned in a Monolith? Those never seem to have a guy in them. If the rune prison isn't near your spawn point, it works fine. I reported it as a bug on the forums.

[stuck jewel]

Yeah exactly near the spawn.

[surreal verge]

Yeah, known bug

[candid elm]

I believe it just makes them physically larger. There's one passive for Bone Golem, for example, that makes it larger and have increased threat, so the enemies are more likely to target it

[candid elm]

I enjoy this game. It feels like it's in between Diablo's lower level of complexity and Path of Exile's higher level complexity. In regards to every class and build, you can change/respec everything except your class and chosen mastery. So you'd end up needing to make 3x of each class if you wanted to try each mastery (although not every mastery has been released yet, there's still... two? more to be released). It's very easy to change your Passives and Skills, though. There's a NPC in town you can use to re-assign Passives for just in game gold, which you'll have a ton of. Skills you can respec any time, but there's a small amount of re-leveling after. Very quick.

[hollow ledge]

Whats the endgame replayability look like? And also are the builds very cookie cutter meta or can anything work if built well

Those are my two real big gripes with D4 currently and those are really big things Im looking for

[surreal verge]

LE is very 'fuck around and find out' friendly.

[candid elm]

If you have any ARPG experience, you can probably just make up your own build and get into the end game

Although you may end up running into some trouble at higher levels

End game is currently 3 dungeons, an Arena with waves, and the timelines/monoliths - these have an expanding web of areas. You can see on each what the reward is and what is the difficulty modifier plus how many additional areas that difficulty modifier lasts. Do enough in monolith and there's a big boss to fight or go far enough in one direction and there's another boss that will reset the web plus slightly increase the monolith overall difficulty - called Corruption. The endgame is pushing Corruption to whatever difficulty you want, farming for Exalted items that you can further improve with crafting, and looking for uniques with Legendary Potential (LP) that you can smash into an Exalted item to transfer LP# of mods from the Exalted item onto your new Legendary item.

[stuck jewel]

Seems like I have to kill some enemies around it/circle back to the rune prison for an enemy to spawn out of it if it spawns initially near the starting point.

[lost jasper]

is there a way to gain shadow chance on hit or smth similiar other than "on kill" with shadow cascade

[broken burrow]

I DMd you nox

[hollow ledge]

That sounds pretty neat thanks for all this info, sorry for so many questions but I got one more, how in depth are item stats?

[surreal verge]

Nope.

[lost jasper]

sadge, thx tho

[broken burrow]

@cedar locust can you please confirm I'm one of the bees friends

[candid elm]

Fairly in depth. There's multiple tiers of base items. No affixes, Normal item. 1-2 affixes, Magic item. 3-4 affixes, Rare item. You can get a 5th affix by Sealing one. You can craft on items to improve the affixes up to Tier 5. Tier 6-7+ affixes are drop only Exalted items. There's also Set and Unique items. Can randomly find Weaver's Will Uniques that level up and get random improvements. Can randomly find Uniques with Legendary Potential that you can improve by combining with Exalted items.

There's class only items that can have class specific affixes, like +skills.

Finding a high LP Unique and finding+crafting an ideal Exalted item to combine with it are like the chase items in this game.

[cedar locust]

Rob is one of our Beesfriend Mods 😊

[obtuse lynx]

is it worth to finish the campain if i have more fun at monolith of faith?

[candid elm]

Up to you. I just did it once and then for every other character immediately went into monoliths when I had 15/15 passives unlocked and 8/8 idols.

You do get +1 all attributes from the Majasa quest. But you can always do it later. Can also skip into Act 9 by doing Temporal Sanctum and walking out the back of it. If you wanted to do Majasa later.

[obtuse lynx]

ok thx, that was the info i need

[vocal plank]

So if I'm using Boneclamor Barbute with Manifest Armour does it get Ward? I would assume minions can get ward if gear gives it to them

[rugged sinew]

She is stationary when she's frozen :)

[surreal verge]

Nope.

[broken burrow]

@surreal verge someone said you knew about echoes the skill?

[surreal verge]

The what?

[broken burrow]

abyssal echoes

[surreal verge]

Err I'm just okay, what do you need?

[broken burrow]

i sent you my build

[vocal plank]

That's... interesting as the node says that it takes your helmet at 60%-240% which in my mind would mean it would read it

[surreal verge]

Oh wait it's ward per sec.
Errr maybe?

Tho I don't think the node level will modify the amount.

[vocal plank]

No but if I have allot of necrotic res on my gear theoretically it would get all of ward making it tankier

[surreal verge]

..... It checks the MINION's resistance.

MA gets a copy of the affix.

[vocal plank]

Yea, the MA with the right points will have your gear on

To an extent. Not all gear obviously

[surreal verge]

Also: giving minions stats like Vit and Int do nothing, they can''t convert it into actual stats.

[surreal verge]

But they don't inherit your stats-

[vocal plank]

I'm not sure I'm getting what you're saying.
If my gloves have necrotic res, and I havce Iron Grasp which gives my gloves at 240% then it would get ward based on that

[surreal verge]

Ah it does.

I meant giving the armour Int, Str, Dex Etc.

[vocal plank]

No, the MA has no use for that.

[surreal verge]

Oh good you know-

Then yeah

[vocal plank]

I play minions, I gotta know some things.
Just making sure.
Though since it probably doesn't get my STR having it have my shield won't do anything because I'm using Bastion

[surreal verge]

It DOES get the STR but can't do anything with it. In theory Bastion's affix can use it.

[vocal plank]

Then this mf has a hell of a chance to block XD

Alright then, time to become Captain Epoch

[hollow ledge]

Hey gamers, it could be that I am just dumb, but I really am just not seeing it. In most games I use my mouse wheel to force move and Ive been trying to set that up but it only says mouse wheel up or mouse wheel down even though zoom said just mouse wheel for it. is there any way to set this up?

[broken burrow]

nope

[hollow ledge]

Alrighty

[lost jasper]

can you get a unique from gambling?

[surreal verge]

No.

[candid elm]

Not the regular gambler, but what about the soul gambler at the end of the Soulfire Bastion? It's been awhile since I've done that dungeon.

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[candid elm]

Thanks, I thought I remember getting some from that.

[hollow ledge]

How rare are unique drops?

[fleet marsh]

Anyone else still feel like lagon's (in monos) sweeping eye beam still does FAR too much damage?

[candid elm]

If you're just starting, there's some low level unique and set items. There's also the new one shot caches that were added that you can find that have some named rare items in them.

There is a variety of rarity amongst the uniques. Some are extremely rare. Others are fairly common. Some are only dropped by bosses and some of those boss only drops are also rare.

[surreal verge]

That's the whole point. It's the one shot risk.

[hollow ledge]

Is there a list somewhere of them and the rairty?

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/unique

[hollow ledge]

Cool, thanks

[candid elm]

If you see him duck down and come back up, get away from his face

[fleet marsh]

Yeah I get that it's totally telegraphed and avoidable, but it feels overtuned regardless. Like builds that can facetank every other boss mechanic still get onetapped by it.

It's just jarring.

[candid elm]

There's also a Rune of Ascendance simulator that gives you a general idea of the rarity. https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ascsim

[surreal verge]

LE doesn't like facetanking so....

[fleet marsh]

Which is silly imo. If I design my build specifically for that and give up all my damage in the process, why not? Let me be immortal and take an hour to kill a boss.

[candid elm]

That fight is definitely a check on you avoiding mechanics. The beam and the moon are both really painful

I think it would be better if they added the incoming damage indicators that some of the other bosses have

[vocal plank]

It may not like it but that doesn't mean it isn't my goal

[surreal verge]

People HAVE done that. Good luck.

(That means you're not doing enough facetanking)

[vocal plank]

I haven't done it with high corruption but I have done it

Just need to get better with gear and have things like 40% lightning taken as phys and things like that

[vale meadow]

Hey i am new to the game is this a good guide for when leveling https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/runemaster-leveling-guide

[lunar holly]

yeah, all the guides there are good, hydras especially are very strong atm

[candid elm]

Yes, I tried that guide while leveling a Runemaster and it works fine. If you like the way the Hydrahedon spell plays that is used in the guide, there's also a separate level 70+ guide for Hydra. Or two other Runemaster guides, if you don't like Hyrdra

[icy drift]

Flayers pride and Oracle amulets are the only ways to take less bleed damage Right? I know exang makes you immune but I don't want that.

[native sail]

I believe other than passives in Rogue, yes

[rare loom]

rotmind unique catalyst

[icy drift]

Oh yeah you're right, not any good for my situation but thanks anyway!

[rare loom]

it's really useful if you are using lich wandering spirits with aura of decay

[native sail]

Huh. i forgot Rotmind.

[lunar holly]

aren't all sources of less damage taken also applying to dots ?

[native sail]

Well not all, some specify hits

I kinda figured we were talking things specific to bleed/DoTs

[rugged sinew]

armor and glancing blows for example don't work on dots

[lunar holly]

yeah, I meant passives and affixes that say "less damage taken"

like Crest of Unity for example

but the question was about something slightly different I guess

[fair sand]

what's the difference of "reflect on the past" and "dream of the future" as the last of the 3 quests in the monolith

is the "future" like hard mode or something ?

[cold brook]

does the resetting of skill specialization limit creativity in the end game? Does is become easy to switch skills around and not have to level them back up?

[sinful laurel]

You can relevel a skill from 10 to 20 in 3-5 minutes in endgame

[fervent quiver]

very easy. If you want to, you can farm a monolith node with an exp reward and then respec and pick the books up to go right back to level 20

[sinful laurel]

Like one echo. Maybe ywo. Incredibly quick and easy

[cold brook]

Thank ye

[fervent quiver]

they unlock two different new monoliths

if you have both unlocked already, theres no difference

[fervent quiver]

theres that new experimental affix now that makes part of your armor apply to damage of time

[tame yacht]

Which monolith i should be grinding? i unlocked empowered

but now idk which one to do

[icy drift]

TRUE

[fervent quiver]

do each one once to get empowered blessings. after that, depends on which items or blessings you are looking for

[tame yacht]

thats the thing, i don't know what items or blessing i should be looking for xD

[fervent quiver]

Lol well, in that case, do whatever you feel like? Either that, or go browse the blessings / boss drops and see if any catches your eye

reign of dragons is pretty popular for either the all resistance blessing or the crit avoidance blessing

[minor vigil]

do future

[fervent quiver]

fall of the outcasts unique droprate (or gold drop rate if youre a hoarder or lightless arbor enjoyer) is also nice

[minor vigil]

if you want to be optimal

[wicked smelt]

I have skeleton minion archers. Minion tag says : physical and archer. So they do physical damage? And scaling tag says : minion and intelligence. So it is those stats that scale the damage?

and why does it not show damage per second on my minions?

[balmy current]

It never has, it's complicated.

[balmy current]

They scale with your minion & Int stats and any % minion physical stats (but not your % physical stats) & they are archers (obviously).

[vague cloak]

Being a somewhat newer player in endgame. Should i only do dungeons for when i want to upgrade gear and just do mono's over and over?

[pine trail]

So I noticed play online and lay offline. If you play offline, does the progress go over to online? ie: I play to level 20 ofline, then go online, and I'm level 20 online

[broken burrow]

no

[pine trail]

Ratz!heh, ok ty

[dusky moss]

im stuck with timeline error LE-64, my completion looks like this, and i dont know why it wont proc

[pine trail]

On a say ring, movement speed vs dodge on said ring, what stat would I see more beneft from?. I'm guessing movement speed, but not sure

[native sail]

Move speed probably. Most things that use dodge get it massively buffed from specific skill specs that make it legitimately one of the strongest possible defenses in the game, generally building dodge on items only happens in niche cases, such as some Rogue builds use weapon suffixes for % increased dodge rating

[dense root]

tbh more people should build dodge on items only (when they can’t get it from skills/passives)

[pine trail]

Ok cool thanks. Yeah I kinda figured dodge wouldn't be much benefit over move speed. Most games do stats very similar but i have seen some mmo/rpg type games that have totally different stats building. Those threw me for a major loop, I was like ok thats suppose to affect this and it doesn't. Most though are basically the same or similar

[dense root]

movespeed vs dodge is an odd question though since they do different things and occupy difference affix slots

[pine trail]

I'm starting a beastmaster, gonna go for a squirrel build. Seen videos of that, it's crazy!

[buoyant sinew]

just a warning, the squirrel helm is a pretty rare drop. not ridiculous or anything but I wouldn't bank on being able to go for squirrels until you already have the helm

if you get unlucky farming for it it might take a long time

[pine trail]

Right, I'm good with wolves until then.

[buoyant sinew]

👍

[pine trail]

Still learning stuff tbh.....mage is only lvl 8. Coming from 30+ years of gams, a lot of them rpg/mmo kinda gives me a leg up so ta speak. Game is fun so far

d4 I got to 47, and got bored with it heh

[sinful laurel]

Lol. Every time

[dusky moss]

enyone know why i cant unlock the last to timelines ?

[orchid turret]

how do i get the stolen lance mono?

[buoyant sinew]

can you elaborate? which two specifically?

[buoyant sinew]

do fall of the outcasts and select "dream of the past" when talking to the spirits after the boss fight

or whatever the wording is, but the "past" option

[dusky moss]

spirits of fire and the last ruin, i have run age of winters 450 times for the sunwreath ring, and when i wanted to go in the last ruin, it said LE-64

[buoyant sinew]

oh I don't know what that means sorry, they're meant to unlock at the same time as age of winter

sounds like you should submit a bug report

[dusky moss]

i farmed the ring on my bladedance, so i could use it on my spellbreaker, could lvl him up and see if his timeline is bugged too

[wicked smelt]

Will increased minion fire damage increase the damage of my Summon volitile zombies? Since they do fire damage

[buoyant sinew]

yes, for the fire damage they deal

[unkempt sand]

does endurance protect against getting oneshot or is it strictly protection at low life

[dense root]

it works

[buoyant sinew]

it protects from one shots, the portion of your health under your threshold always takes less damage even from a single hit

[orchid turret]

so when it says this im just doing all the echoes until a scepter or staff comes up as one correct?

obvi set or unique

[buoyant sinew]

yep, and make sure you're doing empowered since those nodes are much more common there

try and get a long distance from the centre of the web since that also makes them more common

look out for reroll nodes

[orchid turret]

unfortunately i havent done empowered yet

[buoyant sinew]

I would encourage you not to farm normal monos for any reason unless you are really struggling to progress to empowered without doing so

baseline empowered monos drop literally 4-5x the rewards of normal

[unkempt sand]

excellent, thanks

[orchid turret]

currently 72 doing fall of the empire but since you say i shouldnt go back i guess ill keep pushing forward

[buoyant sinew]

you don't need to stress about your level relative to the content

unlocking empowered at 70-75 is perfectly normal and fine

[vague cloak]

Does daily modifiers affect offline game as well?

[buoyant sinew]

for dungeons? yes

[orchid turret]

thanks for the info spark ill keep pushin

[buoyant sinew]

gl

[orchid turret]

lightning swarmblade has my heart just trying to get all the pieces but i guess ill back track on i start running into problems

[buoyant sinew]

yeah good plan

and if you're doing the standard lightning bug build it's quite forgiving on gear so you should be ok

[orchid turret]

Yeah it is just trying to get that damn scepter

So many ascendant runes gone

Just to get spammed with hazelroot lmfao

[buoyant sinew]

that's unlucky

culnivar's isn't even rarer than hazelroot 😦

[orchid turret]

that makes me feel worse hahahaha

[lost jasper]

how to farm gold? i've only found like 4 shrines of wealth on my char (lvl50), having big gold problems

[tame yacht]

what are you using your gold into that has you in deficit?

[lost jasper]

I gamb;e

gamble*

[native sail]

Oh don't do that

It is really bad

[lost jasper]

also buying every single rune of shattering I see

[native sail]

It is capped to level 40 items and cannot give uniques or set items

[tame yacht]

buying runes is fine, but the gamble is bad

[lost jasper]

but I don't gamble for gear,I gamble for shards I get from them xd

[tame yacht]

you will get all the shards you need in monoliths

[lost jasper]

that still doesn't answer my question tho xd

[candid elm]

Just use the gamble when you're leveling if you need a base item. Like the next weapon tier hasn't dropped for you yet or something. And you don't see it in the shop

[tame yacht]

i just farm my gold from the mob drops

[candid elm]

Stop buying every Shatter Rune for a while : )

[pine trail]

I saw a video that they had an pverlay of the map, like diablo does, how do you get that?

[candid elm]

Tab key, I believe is the default

[pine trail]

Awesome, ty ty.......been looking for that sucker everywhere

[lost jasper]

what does that solve? 😄

[tame yacht]

your gold deficit problem?

[lost jasper]

it doesn't tho

[candid elm]

Solves your gold problem while you're leveling

[native sail]

I think you may be overusing shatters if you're buying them that often

[lost jasper]

because I need the gold for that

not buying it is like not having the gold in the 1st place

[pine trail]

Is there a reset for passives?

[native sail]

Brain NPC in towns

[pine trail]

oh yeah, I remember those, thanks

[native sail]

Np

Keep in mind that you cannot change your mastery

[pine trail]

Trying to get Primal med, it says 5, I have 6 but I think in the wrong place

So it says 5 in base, is that 5/5, or can you mix and match the 5.....My guess is 5 of one, not mix and match

[native sail]

You can mix and match within the tree

[orchid turret]

soo finally got the scepter i need and it has 1 Lp can someone explain exactly what i do?

[native sail]

Anything that requires a prerequisite of a specific node is attached to that node

[orchid turret]

i can add a affix?

[candid elm]

It does. I had the same problem when I first started. I wasted all my gold on gambling and buying Shatters. So I just stopped for a while. Pushed into the end game. Where you get much more gold. I also became more discerning with which affixes are actually worth trying to get more of. I stopped Shattering things I had 100+ of. Have plenty of gold to buy tabs with and throw at the Lightless Arbor vault door.

[native sail]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items

[steel merlin]

use ctrl alt over an item with LP

generally if you have a question, first hold alt or ctrl alt over whatever you have doubts about, game will answer most stuff

[orchid turret]

thank you

now i know

[candid elm]

For crafting on uniques, you can find ones with Legendary Potential. With those with LP, you can run Temporal Sanctum dungeon and smash an Exalted item into the LP Unique at the end of the dungeon. That will destroy the Exalted item and randomly select up to the LP # of affixes from the Exalted item to add onto the Unique. 1 LP is one of the four affixes randomly selected to be added. Up to 4 LP adding all 4 affixes. The Exalted item used must have 4 affixes. Sealed affix is not used or counted.

[orchid turret]

gotcha

[lost jasper]

speaking of arbor anytime I try to enter I insta die after the loading screen when entering "floor 2"

[candid elm]

So yes. Find an Exalted with the same base type, like boots to boots. And run Temporal Sanctum. It says on each Tier of the dungeon up to what required level for the Unique it will do. You're 1 LP will take 1 random affix from your chosen Exalted and add it to the Unique, making it Legendary and destroying the Exalted item.

[orchid turret]

ahh so same kinda weap gotcha

[candid elm]

Yeah, like 2H Sword -> 2H Sword. Or Bow -> Bow. It doesn't have to be the exact same weapon like "Obsidian Axe", just the general base type

[ionic mica]

lighting blast vs spark charges if I dont have enigma

[sinful laurel]

You don't need enigma if your doing caster spark charge. But if you do spark charge you lean into it fully. Commit. Or just build LB. It is an amazing damage dealer on its own

[warped grove]

Question: any reason to do arena at endgame for gear/drops?

[pine trail]

So once I add an afix, can I add another later to overwrite the one I did?

[sinful laurel]

If you have fp left and it's not max tier yes

[candid elm]

There's a couple uniques only from Arena bosses https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/arena

[pine trail]

What lvl do you get more than 1 pet?

I think I missed somthing

[dense root]

more than 1 companion? there are a few ways to increase the max

it's not level based though

you do it with items or passives

(i guess strictly speaking passives are gated behind leveling to an extent but still it's not like you hit level 30 and get to have two wolves now or whatever)

[candid elm]

There's passives and items that give increased companion limit. For example Beast Master mastery, passive in Summon Wolves, etc

[pine trail]

Ahh ok. Yeah I saw 1 in the tree, but it's a ways away

[candid elm]

There's also ones that go the other way and limit you to one, but it's buffed

[pine trail]

Need the safty in numbers and leap on the other side though heh

[candid elm]

Well you'll end up with a minimum of 20 points for each Skill by around level 75

[pine trail]

Thruoughly enjoing this primelist or beastmaster or whatever it's called at the beginning. Lvl 10 now. Very fun

[candid elm]

Primalist to begin with. You can choose a Mastery around level 20-ish

And you'll get 3 choices to choose from. Note you can't change your Mastery.

[pine trail]

I could us totems+pet+Ice thorns just th blast thru stuff, but I'm mixing it up with swipe a bit. Lvl'd up wolf damage and headed to the right for safty in numbers and leap. Also working on swipe as I go

Oh and the leap, I love that!

[drowsy panther]

Hi guys! Is there any way to transfer the items from one SSF offline character to another one?

[pine trail]

Yeah, I've been looking at videos and researching stuff, so I don't make a wrong choice

[candid elm]

Apparently the stash is not shared. I haven't tried SSF in this game, though

[drowsy panther]

Didnt they say that stash will be shared for any SSF chars from 0.9?

[faint cape]

Not officially. It is all local files, though you obviously run a high risk of corrupting them, so it's not recommended

[drowsy panther]

I mean, why would I want to do it unofficially when the game says that it should be possible?

[faint cape]

There is no SSF for online mode - what you are seeing in your screenshot is a recent bug related to the new localizations

That's the description for Solo Account Found (the only solo challenge mode currently available online)

Solo Character Found (what you call SSF) is the only solo challenge mode available offline

Solo Account Found in offline mode is basically just the regular game

[brazen summit]

anyone know what corruption level i will start seeing Logi's Hunger amulet from Spirits of Fire Mono?

[faint cape]

If you want to share between characters, you don't take the solo challenge, that's the only thing that does in offline

I think you can transfer items in your inventory from your SCF character into general offline mode - it will not take anything in your stash nor your gold

[drowsy panther]

😦 so tons of uniques for other classes are just wasted

[faint cape]

and by that I mean, transfers the whole character

potentially, yeah, that's why a lot of people don't pick the solo challenge mode

[drowsy panther]

Is there any way to convert offline character to online?

[faint cape]

Unfortunately, it's supposed to better explain it when you select, but the description text is currently bugged

[faint cape]

No, can't be converted either way

[drowsy panther]

sheeesh, that's so frustrating

[faint cape]

Yeah, unfortunately in terms of offline to online specifically, there's no way that could ever be allowed because that just means you can cheat in anything you want

[drowsy panther]

I mean, I dont want to bring any character online. I want to play solo offline and be able to have shared stash for my offline chars

[lost jasper]

I feel like you should be able to copy a online char to offline but not the other way aroubd

around*

[faint cape]

Then you can transfer your Solo Character Found offline characters to regular offline mode, I think that's the mode you are looking for

[candid elm]

It just says rare on it https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDsEYDYBYg. I believe that means it can even drop in normal, it's just rare. Compared to another item from those bosses, https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsCYEYE4g that says Empowered only.

Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, it's just the Shade boss that has items that can only drop from certain corruption levels.

[faint cape]

Like I said of course, you do unfortunately lose everything you can't directly have on your character or in its inventory when you do the transfer (you will lose their crafting mats and gold)

[drowsy panther]

Oh, can you guide me how I can do that?

[faint cape]

Yeah, on the character you want to transfer, grab everything you can/want to take with you out of your stash (you will permanently lose the gold and crafting mats and everything you don't have on your character), open options, select the last tab (I think it's called Challenges), and follow the prompt for disabling the solo challenge

Losing all your crafting mats and gold hurts a little, but you'll recover pretty quick

[drowsy panther]

Thanks! Wanted to grow a lich since I dropped several juicy uniques

[faint cape]

No problem! Hope the lich goes well!

[keen urchin]

Are there any builds like ele hit or ice shot from PoE

im doing flame wraiths atm and its kinda stale

[tame yacht]

i'd love to play mage but there are so many options i can't just choose one, any recomendations?

[dense root]

runemaster is the most interesting i think

[fluid wedge]

Why is it when i die in lagons trial i dont get reset somewhere?

[wary loom]

Hey all - I was wondering if you had any tips for a bug I'm experiencing.
I had it happen once when playing solo, and many other times when playing with my friend in multiplayer (We are level 20 and it has happened 30+ times)

Essentially all mobs will freeze and not move, I can keep moving (In multiplayer, my friend is frozen in place too, but their character model still does the animations for the actions they are taking)
Additionally, if I use a town portal or drop items, they appear back where the "disconnect" happened.
I have validated the game files, and I'm just at a loss for troubleshooting

[buoyant sinew]

I'm not going to be too much help but that's definitely a connection issue, validating game files won't be too much good. if you can find the IP address of the server you're connecting to and use something like WinMTR to trace it, that might give you some information about where the issue lies

[analog isle]

rules governing creep aggro after entering new zone?
if you enter and then stand still

[ionic mica]

is it worth seeking out chests or exiled mages? also why does rune prisons sometimes not have a mage inside them if its near the start of an echo?

[dense root]

known bug

[wary loom]

I just don't know why I would be have connectivity issues. I'm on fiber and haven't had any problems with multiplayer in other games. Could it be a port issue?

[remote hazel]

How does legendary potential work? I have one Firestarters Torch with 1 legendary potential and one without none, but better rolls on the affixes.

Which one is actually better and why? Lol

[buoyant sinew]

when you reach the end of the temporal sanctum dungeon you can squash a unique with legendary potential and an exalted item of the same type with four affixes together into a single legendary item. That randomly selects a number of affixes from the exalted item equal to the unique's legendary potential, and adds them to the unique

So right now the one with better rolls is better because LP doesn't do anything directly. But the one with LP has a shot at being better if you give it a really impactful affix

[buoyant sinew]

From what I've seen, if it's not something really simple like dodgy wifi, this is usually caused by something outside your control. Either the game servers are having issues, or there's a step in the route the data takes from your computer to those servers that is flaking out

[remote hazel]

Okay interesting, Ty

[ocean bobcat]

how do you link items ingame?

[native sail]

Oh shit. Uh... ctrl shift right click maybe? It might say on the item near the bottom

[wary loom]

Ah - ok - so assuming its on my end rather than the servers, how would I change the route my data takes. That doesn't sound like something I can dictate

[sterile widget]

It depends on the underlying cause.

If the underlying cause is related to non-valid cached DNS results, you can try switch to a different DNS provider (instead of your ISP). Google or Cloudflare DNS are good options.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-change-your-pcs-dns-settings-windows-10

If the underlying cause is not DNS and hotspotting to uour phone mitigates the issue, it could be caused by your ISP or an upstream providers peering arrangements / routing configuration. The only things you can do for these are:

• raise the issue with your ISP (be patient as it is not something level 1 support will likely be familiar with)
• ask around and see if there is an alternative ISP in your area that doesn't have the issue, then switch

[wicked smelt]

So my minions scale off intelligence. But not the intelligence in my passive skilltree? Only from gear?

[native sail]

No all int

[wary loom]

awesome reply - thank you

[remote hazel]

Are there any clear stat breakpoints I need to hit for end game? Like Res, health, crit avoidance, etc?

[native sail]

Crit avoid should be 100%
Res is fine if you're a little under cap (60% is fine imo)
Health I recommend about 2500-3000 for most content, higher if possible is never bad

[tall wolf]

!bug

[ripe brook]

Please post bug reports on our forum: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports. Thank you. :smile:

[pearl canopy]

Just unlocked empowered Monos on my Static Shock Spellblade. Any must-know tips for newbies (aside from the usual res cap/crit avoid cap/loot filters)?

[sterile widget]

Does this crit avoid hold true now given the addition of more ways to get crit reduction?

I haven't done the math myself. 😄

[remote hazel]

Is it a waste of time to do the bonus stability in monoliths ?

Feels like a waste of time

[pastel pebble]

Ye

It mostly is

[leaden blade]

no, but then instead you will need 100% crit damage reduction to have same effect

[native sail]

Crit reduction is fine at like 80% or more

[leaden blade]

if you're fine with extra 20% damage that is

[surreal verge]

Unlike crit avoid, crit reduction works even not at 100%

It's the "all or nothing/more and more reduction" logic

[native sail]

Extra 20% probably won't kill you most of the time

[leaden blade]

depends how high is your corruption and what modifiers you took. at 400-600 depending on modifiers you can still get 1 shot from high health enemies even with capped resistances, 100% crit avoidance ~40% armor mitigation, capped endu and 2.5k HP

so I'd say, at high corruption that 20% matters

[native sail]

There's a problem there

2.5k is not enough

[surreal verge]

Yeah er, you got a HP problem there

[native sail]

Hell I'd say 40% armor isn't enough either

[sterile widget]

Thanks for the vibrant discussion folks 🙂 way I figure it always going to get one shot eventually

Sound like a scrub like me playing at 200-300c has more gearing options than people playing higher 😄

[leaden blade]

I'm playing bladedancer so 2.5 is not that bad, 40% is also okish. I have ~60% dodge without dusk shrouds and access to glancing blows. I'm managing at higher then 600 and all t4 dungeons. my point was, that from some corruption that 20% matters, you still can manage without it tho, for high ward characters this is even more true

[leaden blade]

yes, that's for sure

[native sail]

2.5 is that bad, I've played BD with permanent GB, high dodge, high armour, and nearly 4k life

[leaden blade]

and I'm playing with 2.5k, high dodge, mid armour and no perma GB and I'd say it's not, I might change my mind later when I hit a wall, for now approaching 800 corruption

[vocal plank]

What does LEtools use for account name? If you log into steam it's your steam right?

[native sail]

No it's your Last Epoch account name

[vocal plank]

Ugh

[native sail]

Hit H in game

[vocal plank]

Alrght

[sterile widget]

I must know .... is your account name something like ... asspit

Or similarly silly and not something you want to bandy about on the internet

😄

[vocal plank]

No. Just didn't know how to get to it

[sterile widget]

😄

[vocal plank]

Yea it's Ninjanoob

[molten thicket]

is Minion damage leeched as health on a relic healing you or the minions?

[vocal plank]

Minions

Anything that says minions is only minions. There are some cases that, that isn't true but there aren't allot

[molten thicket]

yea i see not the most obvious tooltip

ty

[vocal plank]

No problem.

[ionic mica]

is it best to circle the start of an echo web, or just cfhoose a direction and head out

[surreal verge]

The latter.

The further from the center you are, the high odds of rare nodes.

[slow junco]

Any build recommendations for new player and first play through?

[cedar locust]

Hello! Did you manage to solve this?

[candid elm]

LE is very forgiving in changing your skills and passives. You just can't change your initial class or mastery. Feel free to make your own build, if you want to. You can always change it to another build for your class + mastery later.

If you don't want to make your own, there's guides on maxroll and lastepochtools websites

[cinder ibex]

Hi! New to Last Epoch and loving it, I just have a few questions about loot filters that I am having a hard time to figure out.

Could someone help me figure out the recolors in this filter for example: https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/D0oNXMQ3

I can't really understand what if a X color is better than X other color and why - I tried reading the filter rules but I just feel super confused, sorry for the hassle - appreciate it alot if someone could give me a tip for how to figure out the "tier list" of colors in this filter for example.

[subtle kindle]

This filter is basically just for levelling, so it's super low-strictness. Red items are anything worth looking at to wear (as bad bases are hidden above it, meaning only good bases can show up), then pink ones are quite rare and strong affixes that you can wear or shatter depending on how good the item is. Lime items are very rare affixes that you can shatter, as they're class-specific ones. This includes classes you aren't playing in case you want to use them in future. Then, it shows all "rare" items (experimental, exalted, unique/set)

Number 1 tip for filters is that the top rule always has priority over any rules below it

So the hide rules are just to ensure the red rule can only show you good bases for your point in the campaign

[dusky moss]

no i did not, i wrote to bug report, and trying out paladin abit, if they cant fix it, i might have to remake and make my bladedancer agian, just hope his time wont be bugged also

[cinder ibex]

Ah, thanks! I guess I was confused seeing as regular yellow/blues still showed up together with everything else

[cedar locust]

Is this standard or Empowered?

[autumn tiger]

if you use disintegrate and you get the crit offhand that says you can't crit but spell crit makes you do more damage (or it's the node on disintegrate itself, I forgot), and you put on gambler's fallacy, does that mean you have permanent +100% crit chance or is there an underlying mechanic that still counts your crits as having "gone off but doing no damage?" Because gambler's says crit is +100% "recently" (which is last 4s)

[dusky moss]

its standard, the 2 other timelines are locked with LE-64, so i cant do them to unlock the middle shrine, but becouse it took me to allmost 96 to farm the ring i wanted for winter age, i never reaerlized that my time line where bugged or locked xD

[late pollen]

Can rune of shattering create more shards than the tier? So lets say T1 fire pen, can I get 2+ shards when shattering?

[hardy dagger]

Is anyone else having issues logging in?

[cedar locust]

So you've completed Reign of Dragons to unlock Age of Winter though Last Ruin and Spirits of Fire haven't?

[cedar locust]

Which server?

[hardy dagger]

General. i can't even select one yet saying the servers are experiencing additional load due to unusual levels of traffic

[dusky moss]

i have a blessing in each timeline expect ruin and fire

monolicht

[cedar locust]

Where do you play from?

[hardy dagger]

TX

[cedar locust]

Have you tried running Reign of Dragons from the beginning again?

I'm wondering if, like with some 'stuck' quests, we can get the unlock trigger resent by redoing the required steps 🤔

[cedar locust]

Texas? So you'd normally be on US Central?

[hardy dagger]

i bounce between the 3 US depending on the ping

[dusky moss]

so try and re run RoD and do the dragon boss agian, i tryied that last night. meaby trying RoD and then winter ?

[hardy dagger]

Well a simple client restart fixed it. but it is a good sign that LE is getting traffic issues. Must be from all the good publicity recently

[cedar locust]

Do a file verification through steam, then manually enter the monolith zone from EoT - run over don't use the map fast travel if you can - then run RoD and check to see if that works 🙂

[cedar locust]

Thanks for letting me know a restart helped! Things are getting a bit busier around here, that's for sure 😅

[hardy dagger]

well thats what a quality game does i guess. that and others shooting themselves needlessly in both feet after purposely tripping down a flight of stairs lol

[dusky moss]

roger i try that, just need to find a waypoint xD i let you know if it works

[cedar locust]

I know you can head to the right in the EoT to reach the Monoliths but not sure how to follow the paths from that island to reach each timeline - hope it works!

[dusky moss]

i know the route spend some time exploring the paths last night xD

[cedar locust]

Eterra's Blessings on your journey Traveler!

[fickle glade]

is anyone having issues with loading areas? it has been bad lately but i cant load any area other than end of time today

[candid elm]

No. Shattering or Removal will not give you more than the tier number in affix shards.

Removal will always give you that tier number of affix shards, for example, If removal hits on a Tier 5 affix, you will always get five shards.

Shattering gives a random number of affix shards between zero and the tier number for each affix on the item. You will get a minimum of one affix shard per item shattered, but on items with multiple affixes it's possible that you will get zero of some of those affixes. So if you really want one of the affixes as shards, use Removal.

[cedar locust]

Which server?

[dusky moss]

i did this and the 2 are still locked, my middle shrine looks like this

[hollow ledge]

Hey guys, just got my first dungeon key. Is this meant to be solo or mulitplayer and what level should I be to do it?

[dusky moss]

you can solo it, i think they start at tier 1 mob lvl 55, then 2 80, 3 95, and last tier 4 mob lvl 100

[hollow ledge]

Yikes Im only level 30 rn

Guyess Ill put it in the stash for a bit

[dusky moss]

i tried the first when i got a key, and promptly got smack by a rare xD

[hollow ledge]

lol

[cedar locust]

Hmm, that's a strange one.. I'll raise this with the team today though would you mind sending an in game bug report if you haven't already?

[dusky moss]

i sent one last night, as well as a ticket. im trying to rerun all monolicht atm to see if it helps

[cedar locust]

When you say ticket do you mean to our Support department as well as an in game report?

[dusky moss]

one ingame but that dident say it anything when i filled it out and press send, then i took the link in support channel and filled one out there

[cedar locust]

Ah okay! The in game bug reports should show a 'Thank you for your report' screen after you hit send, though they are one-way reports that go straight to the QA team and the team doesn't reach back out.

[dusky moss]

wonder if they have a button to reset my EoT, and just hope i dont mess up the 'st chain agian xD

[cedar locust]

Not sure that's a thing though hopefully we can find a solution for you!

[dusky moss]

dumb q'stion, just saw a video where he said empowerd monolicht sat as curruption 100, am i locked becouse my highest curruption was around 40?

[sinful laurel]

No, you just haven't unlocked empowered monoliths yet.

[dusky moss]

ahh okay

[sinful laurel]

Finish the three monoliths at the end that come off the small central island. Then you can unlock empowered, which starts at 100 corruption by default

[dusky moss]

i have cleared around 450 in winter, becouse i was looking for a ring. then other 2 ruin and fire are locked for me with an error code LE-64, thats what we are trying to fix

[sinful laurel]

Oh. I didn't read up lol. My bad. Tried verifying integrity of game files via steam?

[dusky moss]

no worries, yes i tried that and you technical answared what i asked xD

[sinful laurel]

Gotcha. Only other thing I would say is complete clean reinstall including deleting game data in user/appdata/local

[dusky moss]

i will try that later, atm in trying to reclear the mono q¨st

to see if that procs something im missing

nah im gonna try and reinstall it, might aswell try that 🙂

[leaden tundra]

where is southern palteau cant seem to find it

[lunar holly]

are you following a guide by any chance ? that zone is no longer in the game as they reworked the starting chapters

[broken burrow]

I have had shattering give me more than the contained shards

@lethal dawn You there?

[surreal verge]

How?

[lethal dawn]

sir yes sir

[broken burrow]

when it's the only one left and its tier 1 or two i've gotten 3 or more many times

[surreal verge]

You sure it isn''t because the removal rune's affix gain msg is still there?

[broken burrow]

obviously not intended behaviour then, i'll report it

no it's next to the name of the affix i was hoping for

[surreal verge]

Anyway yeah,not intended.

[leaden tundra]

ohi guess i have the quwst from my previous time i created the character and left it at lvl 3 or osmething

makes sense i have all my idol slots and passive points and lvl 50 but that quest still there

[broken burrow]

I'm in VC going to help someone with crafting if any players want to watch or ask questions

[tall wolf]

c ->>> f

[candid elm]

I'm pretty sure what I wrote is correct. I may be mistaken though

[broken burrow]

it is correct as inbtended i just know i've done it

next time it happens i'll submit a report

[silk cave]

Quick question - Why is my crit chance still at 17%? Is it bugged?

or am i misunderstanding something? 😄

[dusky moss]

your weapons base crit is fixed, so if its 5% 100% more crit is only 10%

well not weapon, your base crit is 5

[silk cave]

aaaaah ok

got it, thanks

^^

[dusky moss]

no worries 🙂

fun thing, if you take a crit shrine that gives 100% you go up to 105% xD

[silk cave]

oh nice to know xD

[leaden tundra]

why is my crit 0%?

[dusky moss]

do you have an idoel that says you cant crit, or another item ?

[leaden tundra]

FAAAAAAAAAACK LOL

[dusky moss]

singularty xD

[leaden tundra]

19% more hit dmg?

is that good

[dense root]

no

well

it’s a good stat

but is bad in this context

because you give up more than you gain

[dusky moss]

as i understand if you are poison or ignite, damage over time, the dot cant crit, and when the damage% dont state more, i should make dots better

[dense root]

dots aren’t hits

[dusky moss]

ahh my bad then

[dense root]

you’re right that they can’t crit though

[leaden tundra]

i use erasing strike and warpath

and iam taking crit nodes so prob should remove it lol

what should i be spending my monies for?

[kind bolt]

So crafting I find extremely confusing I've watch youtube videos and I'm still confused.

Does anyone know of a infographic that may help clear things up?

[dusky moss]

when you can buy shattering runes from the shops you meet

[kind bolt]

I'm currently 77 and never crafted lol so probably gimping myself a bit lol

[dense root]

stash tabs mostly

[dense root]

crafting is easy and powerful

i would strongly recommend you start doing it

[kind bolt]

I don't understand it and it confuses me

Even watched YouTube videos still confused

[dawn otter]

If I equip 2 unique rings, will the effects stack? Will I get 2% more damage per shock if I equip 2 oceareon?

[dense root]

yes

some effects can’t stack though

generically numerical adjustments to stats stack though

so flat damage, more damage, increased damage, increased move speed, increased health, etc.

[wicked smelt]

I see necro builds with 3 golems. How do you get 3? They never explain how

[dense root]

plus skill levels

[knotty tinsel]

unique chest piece

it's bad don't do it

1 golem is enough

[dense root]

you need a super rare unique item yeah

and then single golem is stronger than multi golem

[dusky moss]

items you find and you like the stat, you can max craft the affixes to tier 5, so start by trying to get your gear up to that, you wil allso find gear with one stat in purple that is tier 6 or 7, then you can start useing some of ehm and upgrade the rest to t5

[daring jasper]

Um.. i have a problem. When starting EL my whole internet connection goes down and stay down until i turn game off. Any pointers?

[knotty tinsel]

maybe you have some odd security system in place that goes into a panic when it detects the game for some reason? no clue

that seems very weird

[dense root]

huh ok that’s a weird one

[naive ridge]

hi everyone

[knotty tinsel]

hello!

[naive ridge]

i am new to last epoch and trying to find out if u can make the chat bigger

make the fonts bigger so it is easier to see

[daring jasper]

I dont even get to the window or choose online or offline

for*

[naive ridge]

check what windows firewall u have

[daring jasper]

win def

i have tried turning on off

[silent lagoon]

My favorite kind of class is one that uses ranged combat for many enemies, traps for crowd control, and melee single-target attacks. It builds on the fantasy of using a ranged weapon vs the masses, but when a worthy foe comes up, they pull their axe or sword to take the boss down.

Basically ranged / melee hybrid with a way to specialize ranged for AoE and melee for single target.

Can I make such a class?

[leaden tundra]

why is this armor piece this color?

[dusky moss]

its experimalt

the blue stat can be seal with one of your glyphs

they drop from the inprisoned mage

[leaden tundra]

tyty

i just started echos does the timeline i pick matter?

should i just go for the higher lvl one?

[dusky kite]

aaron's will and two hollow fingers, plus all the other effects for max skeletons in skill/passive tree

[dusky kite]

I mean you never told us which parts exactly you don't understand, so it's hard to give anything solid here. But the tooltips in-game are fairly decent and should explain what the different crafting items do.

[dusky kite]

It's not impossible but generally speaking you want to specialize in either melee or ranged, and if you want physical ranged combat your main choice is rogue with either mm (bow) or bd (thrown weapons). Your skill bar is also quite limited so most builds tend to have only one primary damage skill, or perhaps two for single target and aoe.

[dusky kite]

IF you mean the choice of timeline unlock that you get in some of the monos, just pick the higher level ones as you'll eventually unlock the rest of them anyways when you unlock empowered monos. That should be your primary goal as normal monos are largely a waste of time in terms of loot drops.

[leaden tundra]

sounds good ty

[green spear]

how to reset the shop to get runes ?

[boreal zenith]

Just load any other zone. Shop is refreshed each time.

[ionic mica]

So just keep running the stolen lance over and over, and pray the very special node shows up?

or can it drop form normal "unique item" nodes

[sinful laurel]

higher corr and farther distance from the center helps for more rare nodes

and yes, if its a unique it can drop from a unique node

[dusky moss]

u can rune of ascendcy it allso, just a much bigger pool to pull from

[ionic mica]

how do i tell what "base it is" or does it not matter as long as its a catalyst?

[green spear]

oh ok

[sinful laurel]

catalyst is catalyst

[ionic mica]

ah i see

so just yolo slam catalysts with ascendcy runes

[green spear]

orobyess is undeed asking about the modifiers

?

[dusky moss]

i did 400 runs in one mono for a ring, gave up and pull it out in 8 runes of ascendcy xD

[analog isle]

if "C" sheet says crit chance is 10% and flurry base crit chance is 5% does that just mean the flurry crit chance is 15%?

LE planner is not even showing the answer

[steel merlin]

The sheet assumes a base crit of 5

[analog isle]

also then when you add a "% higher crit chance" mod to your bow does that scale off BOTH flurry crit + character sheet? lol

[steel merlin]

If you don't have any added base crit, 10% is your flurry crit chance

[analog isle]

precision node on flurry gives 6% total more crit chance
that makes flurry give 11% now
then my C sheet says 10%

[steel merlin]

Formula is (basecrit+addedcrit)*(1+inccrit%/100)*morecrit

[analog isle]

that should be 21% total

[steel merlin]

No

If your sheet says 10%, that means you have 100% inc

So you actually have (5+6)*(1+1)=22 crit chance

The sheet never checks for extra base in the skill tree

[sinful laurel]

or conditional crit chance from gear for that matter

[analog isle]

but my flurry crit chance should be 11 now after maxing precision

I need to add character default 5% to this no?

bc flurry default base is already 5%?

[sinful laurel]

yakovik just posted the exact calculation

[steel merlin]

Flurry default is character base defaukt

[sinful laurel]

your BASE flurry crit chace is now 11

[analog isle]

omgggg

[steel merlin]

There isn't an extra base default per skill

[analog isle]

yeah but I didnt understand the variables?

[steel merlin]

You do now?

[sinful laurel]

(basecrit+addedcrit)(1+inccrit%/100)morecrit

base crit is 5

added base crit is 6

total 11

increased crit is 100%

[analog isle]

so C sheet shows 10%
this means I have 100% inc crit chance somewhere
flurry 5% default is not actually 5% more base from my C sheet
so basically
flurry is 5% + 6more from precision x 2 = 22

[sinful laurel]

1+(100/1) = 2

11*2 = 22

[analog isle]

😂 they need to make this easier for in game

[steel merlin]

They will

At least it was said by devs

[sinful laurel]

nah, the character sheet just doesn't take into account everything

but the calculation is fairly simple

[analog isle]

no no its not

bc you dont know what the variables are

[steel merlin]

The weird part is having to calculate the increased out of the sheet

[sinful laurel]

but...we just filled in all teh variables...and calculated it...nvm

[analog isle]

ok thanks makes sense now

[steel merlin]

Primeval, it makes sense once you know

But you have to uuuh know to know

[pastel pebble]

Meditate on it and peer past the veil

[sinful laurel]

yeah, why i said nevermind lol. the information is readily available but i understand. all good

[analog isle]

I like to ask questions bc Im bored thats it 😎

[sinful laurel]

gotcha

[analog isle]

@steel merlin

the wording for the 2% is "additional" not "increased"

this would increase the base crit chance 2% per point?

[knotty tinsel]

let's check lastepochtools

yup seems like it

fun fact this used to be 5%

[lethal dawn]

maso

masco...

[analog isle]

does the tool calculate the stacks of critical avoidance lol

[lethal dawn]

the thing where ppl like when they get hurt - build

[analog isle]

max stacks give 100% crit strike avoidance
so what does this mean

[knotty tinsel]

I'd assume no? it's mainly a repository for information on the game

oh I see sorry

crit avoid on enemies is only seen in monoliths when you add it by traveling a path that gives enemies the benefit

this just makes that one less/not annoying

I'd say there's some division on how people feel about it, since enemy crit avoid is kinda bullcrap in the first place and only messes with specific builds

[steel merlin]

crit vulnerability is special in that it adds at the end, if you have 22% crit chance after all calculations, and the enemy has say 2% crit culverability, you have 24% chance to crit against that enemy

[analog isle]

makes sense
but tbh I think 20% flat crit chance seems pretty nice

the avoidance is just extra

[knotty tinsel]

it's an incredible debuff just for that, you're correct

good assessment

[knotty tinsel]

ohhh I didn't know that detail. but that still makes it very useful and unique

[analog isle]

so 22% base chance with 100% crit vulnerability = 44% chance to crit?

[steel merlin]

no, it adds at the end

it would be 122%

[pine trail]

Exiled mage at lvl 12.....doable or no?

[steel merlin]

doable

[knotty tinsel]

max 10!!! stacks, times +2% crit rate = +20% crit rate, as a flat bonus

[pine trail]

Well piss, what am I doing wrong, he's literally just chewing me apart

[knotty tinsel]

lethal typo

[steel merlin]

it happens, it feels more powerful at early levels alpha

[pine trail]

He like 4 shots me

[steel merlin]

it scales with us but slower

ill rewrite the formula of crit

[pine trail]

So move on to another quest or grind lvl up and try again?

[knotty tinsel]

rune prisons are just random encounters, you'll see a lot of them

no big deal if you cant do em right now

[steel merlin]

(basecrit+addedbase)(1+inccrit%/100)(1+morecrit%/100)+critvuln

you can ignore the morecrit in 99% of builds

[knotty tinsel]

theoretically, if you applied 10 stacks of crit vuln to everything instantly, then you'd only want 80% crit after all bonii, instead of 100%. Theoretically.

[analog isle]

well ok lets do a real example bc the node gives 10% crit avoidance PER POINT
lets say I use flurry and have the 11% chance base w/precision
I invest 5 points into the node wound maker
that gives me extra base crit of 10%
so 21% base chance now w/flurry
enemey has 50% less crit avoidance

[vocal plank]

If I have 100% Necrotic damage taken as phys does necrotic damage get mitigated by armour as if it were phys or just the normal amount? Because you can remove the need for 2 full resistances with this due to the amulet that makes void be taken as fire

[knotty tinsel]

but... enemy crit avoid is zero, unless it says on your screen that it isn't

[sinful laurel]

To be clear, reduced crit avoid only works if they already have crit avoid

[analog isle]

so does nothing vs default enemies

[steel merlin]

we are mixing stuff here

[knotty tinsel]

yeah

[sinful laurel]

Yeah what torgor said

[knotty tinsel]

yeah!

[analog isle]

ok what if enemey has 100% crit avoid mod

and I have 5 points invested
their crit avoid is now 50%
My default crit chance is 22% in my scenario assuming no "inc crit chance"

this means I will never crit?

[sinful laurel]

No.

[knotty tinsel]

you will crit 11% of the time

[analog isle]

ahhhhhh ok

[sinful laurel]

Approximately half

[knotty tinsel]

22, cut in half because they have a 50% chance to avoid the crit that you rolled

[sinful laurel]

Very close to 50%

[analog isle]

riiiiiiiiiiight thanks

Im so bad with this

[sinful laurel]

You're getting there

[knotty tinsel]

I think enemy crit avoid usually comes in portions of 35%?

it's really such a niche ribbon effect of Crit Vuln tbh

[steel merlin]

by the way that node if you put ten points and apply the ten stacks, removes completely crit avoidance from enemies

[knotty tinsel]

mhm

[steel merlin]

but yeah that part is just qol

[sinful laurel]

Yup. Or just avoid repeated echos with that mod lol

[knotty tinsel]

I think that echo mod existing is kinda dum in the first place

where's the less DoT taken enemy mod? I want JUSTICE

same goes for dodge

[steel merlin]

yeah, its time for poison builds to stop being op

[knotty tinsel]

youknowwhatImean

it's affecting me so it should be fixed right away

[analog isle]

problem with dodge seems to be eventually you get hit

[knotty tinsel]

oh I meant enemy dodge, player dodge is fine and cool

and good

[analog isle]

so you still need to build lots of other defense

[steel merlin]

well yes and no?

[knotty tinsel]

dodge is objectively great in last epoch that's not really an argument

[pastel pebble]

Don't put your eggs in a singular basket

[steel merlin]

there is no diminishing returns where you get more chances to get hit for every time you dodge

[knotty tinsel]

it's not that one other ARPG where you're at threat of being oneshot constantly

[steel merlin]

you can just dodge everything if you are lucky

[analog isle]

right so POE uses the entropy system

[knotty tinsel]

if you have 70% dodge that's 70% damage reduction for everything that's actually hard

[steel merlin]

thats what i mean, theres no entropy here

[analog isle]

as long as you dont get 1 shot then 85 dodge seems op

[knotty tinsel]

effectively

[analog isle]

the problem is the 1 shots

[steel merlin]

the dodge you see is the dodge you get

[analog isle]

wait.....not really though

bc you can get very unlucky and have a big fatty smash you twice in a row

no?

[knotty tinsel]

well yeah but then your other layers aren't layery enough that's a different issue in my eyes

you can always get unlucky whether it's about dodge or not. if I pick armor shred enemy buff, and I walk into a monolith and see Wengari Axe Throwers, I go "guess I'll die"

[sinful laurel]

More Layery layers are needed

[knotty tinsel]

and [usually don't but get kinda close a lot]