❔┃ask-the-community

[astral oasis]

I mean its something they already did to me, just trying to end it

[native sail]

Point where I insulted you

[astral oasis]

.

[native sail]

That

Is not an insult

[hot carbon]

That’s not an insult

[astral oasis]

its pretty much equivalent to what I said

[native sail]

Sure, bud

[hot carbon]

N- no

And even if it is

You also said their take was awful

[astral oasis]

awful take is an insult lol

maybe you don't see it that way but I do

yeah so were even lol

[native sail]

[hot carbon]

If somebody disagreeing with your opinion insults you then you gotta work on that pride

[astral oasis]

i didnt even say that, I just said they're compareable and I disagree

[astral oasis]

I have no pride issue, I am just actually really confused why you think they aren't compareable

okay I did I guess, I'm tired

sorry for being rude

awful take, I do take as an insult

somethings are insulting to some and not others, just the way it is

[hot carbon]

Anyways, Last Epoch is a much more linear and standard ARPG. It executes the formula well and under a modern framework.
Diablo 4 is an MMO. It will grow and change with time and emphasizes an importance upon itemization, far more than LE. They play very differently because of this.

[astral oasis]

So far in D4 my experience has pretty much been the same as LE until late game

[hot carbon]

Think Diablo 2 itemization with Diablo 3 combat.

[astral oasis]

I don't get the "play differently" or different paces that you guys mentioned

[hot carbon]

And that’s fine.

[astral oasis]

the combat feels almost the same to me, same systems, or close enough

[hot carbon]

Well yeah

D3 combat is basic

It’s everything outside of that

It’s your inbetween-combat planning and investments

[astral oasis]

ah so thats the pace part

it feels like a lost ark, poe mix

to me at least

[hot carbon]

Fair enough

[astral oasis]

I like the world of d4, the open-ness a lot more tbh but everything else LE is dominating in

[hot carbon]

In my head, it’s like comparing Rainbow Six Siege to Call of Duty

Yeah, the gunplay can be similar

[astral oasis]

I don't think D4 did their character skills and what not good at all

[hot carbon]

But outside of that they function very differently

[astral oasis]

I guess that makes sense

[hot carbon]

Lot more emphasis on items than skills.

[astral oasis]

That makes sense, LE seems to not have the most items to choose from that I've seen

[native sail]

LE has their itemization dramatically underutilized

It's a bit of a shame imo

[hot carbon]

I am 100% sure D4 will change with time anyways. It is an MMO, and one in its infancy. It’s like Y1 of FF14, or Destiny 2.

[astral oasis]

I want to enjoy both, I just don't have all the time to play both and was determining which to play more or focus on. I got really far into LE and then it just seemed to plato for me

I've not heard anyone call it an MMO until this convo

[hot carbon]

I think, for long-term longevity, Diablo 4 will be a better bet.

[native sail]

Because they have a system with a lot of potential, but there's missed opportunities at every corner alongside insane power scaling that isn't tied to gear which just further undermines its value

[hot carbon]

It is 100% an MMO

It was marketed as such too

[astral oasis]

ah I just missed it then

I want to enjoy LE more, I just feel like it ends, or the value of continuous play doesn't increase as much as I want

just have that fear for D4 also if I sink a ton of time into it

[hot carbon]

I’m not a person who ever plays an ARPG for an extended period

So I don’t really experience end games, since I don’t enjoy them

[native sail]

Yup, endgame still needs a lot of expansion in LE, revamps and changes to bring it a bit more.... meat so to speak

[astral oasis]

It seems like from what I've noticed people just tend to find a game and play it for years and I've never found that game for me, every game has something that just ends it for me

[hot carbon]

Maybe hold off on playing, them. Once seasonal changes start happening there should be less of that.

And frankly if D4 somehow ISN’T going the MMO route then they fucked up

[astral oasis]

I enjoy the seasons aspect, just always hated the campain in PoE over and over, hope its not the same in D4

fair enough

[hot carbon]

Seasonally changing MMO’s are huge right now, Destiny 2 makes so much money

[hot carbon]

You can skip the campaign after beating it once

[native sail]

Cuz right now, my fuel for LE has and always will be new builds and experimenting, but it is really hard to get the drive to try them when there's only like one "goal" in the game and then there's the issue of corruption pushing just being... kinda bland the longer it goes

[hot carbon]

Which is necessary

[astral oasis]

Destiny 2 felt like a progress bar shooter lol, shoot one hp bar down, then next, etc

[hot carbon]

Because it’s a 30 hour campaign

[native sail]

20*

[astral oasis]

I like the builds in LE they just feel so limited

[hot carbon]

It is in fact a shooter.

[astral oasis]

I meant that as in it just felt more painful than a normal shooter

[hot carbon]

Mm, I understand

[native sail]

As a Destiny player with way too much time in game if the picture doesn't give that away, it's definitely a game that needs you to take breaks sometimes, but the core gameplay and feel has always been top notch to me.

[astral oasis]

wasn't as fun to unload 100 clips into one thing until it died, for me at least

[hot carbon]

Yeah.

[astral oasis]

fair enough

[hot carbon]

You uh. Shouldn’t need to.

Most enemies die in one magazine.

[astral oasis]

I got stuck in one dungeon for I kid you not 2 hours and I havent picked it up sense

I mean like a boss

specifically in dungeons

or whatever they're called

[hot carbon]

Well
Okay there’s your issue

[native sail]

Oh. Those are designed for 3 people. Raids are designed for 6.

[hot carbon]

Anyways this is off-topic now

[native sail]

They're supposed to be tough

[astral oasis]

I mean I had the full team

yeah

[native sail]

But there are also meta tactics that melt them

[hot carbon]

(Then you guys had really bad builds)

[native sail]

The current raid can be killed in one damage phase

[hot carbon]

anyways, very off topic

[astral oasis]

the core issue I'm having is I'm getting older lol I just want to pick a game and enjoy it without having to switch games all the time. Seems like lots of people just have that game for them and I was never able to find one

I'm not even that old, just older

[hot carbon]

Conclusion: Diablo 4 is a twin-stick beat ‘em up action adventure shooter

[native sail]

I just don't mind swapping games. Different things are fun, I'll take my variety.

[fierce plover]

Yep.

[native sail]

God I wish my PC hours looked like that

[hot carbon]

“God I wish my life was empty” /s

[native sail]

I was on console for about 6k hours

[astral oasis]

Only game I ever really liked was Rust and that game is toxic and life draining

[hot carbon]

(not an insult to you alwhweezy, just making fun of my friend)

[native sail]

I cut strawberries for 4 hours today. I am empty.

[astral oasis]

why

lol

[native sail]

Work.

[hot carbon]

Correction: you cut spider filled strawberries for four hours everyday.

[fierce plover]

I had maybe 1.5k hours on PS4? I didnt move until they added cross save. I take regular breaks from Destiny 2 and it makes things more enjoyable tbh.

[astral oasis]

like a restraunt or strawberry farm lol

[native sail]

I work in the food market of a grocery store

[astral oasis]

ah

that sounds terribl,e

[fierce plover]

I do that with most games, once I start playing not for fun and it feels like a chore I just take a break and come back later.

[native sail]

It's honestly not bad, I'm away from customers all the time

It's just loud

[astral oasis]

fair enough

[native sail]

Blast chiller is like 10 feet from my spot

[astral oasis]

I did restraunts growing up, never going back

[native sail]

I did restaurant work once

For 6 months

That was enough

[astral oasis]

yeh

[hot carbon]

I did not work

[astral oasis]

i was a gm of papa johns, getting paid 11$ an hour

life was bad

[native sail]

[astral oasis]

skip workin?

[native sail]

She can't work, physically

[astral oasis]

ah

sorry to hear that

[hot carbon]

I’m sorry to bear that

[astral oasis]

after restraunts i became a cable guy, was fun but in oklahoma its way too freakin hot

[native sail]

K L A H M A ||don't worry, I do this for every state with an O||

[astral oasis]

lol

used to live in a state that had no o's in it

[hot carbon]

M I N E

[astral oasis]

wait nvm i was gonna make a depression joke but it does indeed have an o

im tired

again sorry for being rude at the beginning, it really wasn't my intent, y'all are chill

[native sail]

Yeah, apologies on my end too, I'm just not very good at communicating

[astral oasis]

I get too offended

[hot carbon]

I am the offense

[native sail]

Dream over there's probably the only person who understand my intents fully without hiccups

[astral oasis]

after playing so many games with toxicity I learned to just take everything as offense because thats usually what people mean

trying to revert

[hot carbon]

Deias over here

Doin’… Things

Mm-hmm

[native sail]

I am throwing bones.

[native sail]

This is why I just don't have chat in most games. Plus I got tired of getting called slurs

[astral oasis]

when I played rust, getting called the n word by a 5 year old daily was just a reality

a very sad one

[native sail]

Sounds about right, there's a reason I don't have that game

[astral oasis]

I put 4500 hours into it before I got out

I'm 3 months clean

[hot carbon]

[astral oasis]

its crazy addicting once you get into it

[hot carbon]

We should not be using addiction terminology over Rust

[native sail]

I get my slur dosage from Trials of Osiris

[hot carbon]

Yeah from your fucking teammates

[native sail]

Funni ultra competitive Destiny PvP

[astral oasis]

It is though, It really is, it was ruining my life cant get off for weeks at a time

[native sail]

Jacob

[hot carbon]

Jacob

[native sail]

He's outta school for a bit yeah?

[hot carbon]

Should be

Anyways Last Epoch

Slicey slicey

[native sail]

Right, LE

I gotta find the funny burning dagger relic, I want to see if it's possible to make raw hit daggers usable

Also I just realized those shotgun so it's possible to make Throne of Ambition stack super quick

[tepid dew]

Does anyone know with the Spellblade, does Arcane Warden proc off Mana strike if I have Mana Spark (Making it deal 15% with 3/3 of my mana as Lightning Damage)?

[sturdy crane]

Is there any rough estimate on what "rare" means in this game?
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/timeline/reign_of_dragons

Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
Dropped By:
Emperor of Corpses (rare)
I know it's affected by corruption and mods but what magnitude of rare are we talking about here?
1% drop chance? 10%?

[native sail]

Roughly 5 to 10%

[sturdy crane]

Okay, thx

[still patio]

So how to level up the skills?

I mean active in skillbar

[fresh aspen]

you will level it as you fight monsters

each skill have their individual progress bar shown on the skill tree

[surreal verge]

It gets XP as you get XP

[knotty tinsel]

press S

[fresh aspen]

however its XP bar is different from ur Level XP bar

[knotty tinsel]

(it's S by default right)

[still patio]

Ty

[main lion]

Can weaver's will items roll class specific affixes? I have a ring I want for mage and not sure if leveling it with my aco will "brick" it.

[faint cape]

Yes, they can roll class-specific affixes, but those affixes only exist on helmets, body armors, relics, and idols. The character you use to 'level' your WW items has no influence on the mods it gets.

[main lion]

Thanks!

[candid elm]

Just a note, the skill does not need to be on your skill bar to earn XP. Every skill you have specialized will passively earn XP as you play.

[celest tide]

trying to figure out why my game keeps rubber banding and freezing. especially when I am in an echo and it freezes just as I get killed over and opver

[sterile bane]

Internet. Mine does the same

[celest tide]

makes for crappy gameplay

[sterile bane]

well duh. i cant pass an echo because of it. i either have to find a different place to play or just wait till i get home and have good internet\

[celest tide]

I am at home and I seem to have crappy internet here

[sterile bane]

are you close to a server?

[celest tide]

it goes to USA Central

autimatically

[sterile bane]

you can change it. are you close to a server besdies that one?

[celest tide]

I will have to see... I am in central canada

I am also thinking my cpu is really slow.... I watch the performance on the system and the cpu maxes out allot

[sterile bane]

yea im rubberbadningd so much i cant do this echo

[celest tide]

for me even connecting takes allot

I have no Idea why they connected with Stream like that cause all it does is add more latency from the stream app

[native sail]

Uh. You're not connecting to Steam when you login, you're connecting to servers EHG got specifically for this game

[celest tide]

I know that but HAVING to run stream as well now it adds to the speeds you ultimatly use from your connection

everything you do adds to the connection you are running from youre internet provider

[native sail]

If your connection is legitimately hampered by Steam existing in the background and doing nothing, I think you have worse problems

[celest tide]

NO .... it is a given if you add things onto what you are doing it changes

[dense root]

how much bandwidth does steam use when you're not doing anything?

[native sail]

^

[dense root]

like it has to be almost nothing

hm the first number i found says someone measured steam as using approximately 3 mb per hour when idle

[celest tide]

you must be running a fiber connection or close to it then here we still have old school crap

[dense root]

i'd like to know a bit about their methodology but that number sounds pretty believable to me

[native sail]

Dude I didn't have these problems on dial-up. And I used that in 2018

[dense root]

also i don't have fiber and i'm so mad about it

most of my town does have fiber but the part of the town i live in doesn't because they decided it was too expensive to upgrade the infrastructure just where i live

[native sail]

It exists here, I don't have it, that's out of our price range

[celest tide]

the speed I get when I had cable internet was allot greater than what i am getting from here I dont know why I changesd

[dense root]

i also don't know

but steam is certainly not the culprit unless you're like actively downloading games while you try to play le

[celest tide]

I used to get Gigabit speeds with cable and here I only get 50 Mg

if you have a very slow speed internet yes adding another program slows it down further Dude I have been a tech for over 22 years I DO know what I am talking about

[dense root]

i mean yes

but the amount it slows it down matters

[native sail]

I think you and I have very different conceptions of what "very slow" is as well

[dense root]

when idle steam uses so little bandwidth that while you're right that technically it slows your other stuff down a little it's a negligible amount

[native sail]

Because I know people who still have less than 10Mb/s and play online games

[dense root]

like if you want to say "i'm technically correct" and pat yourself on the back then i mean more power to you, we've all been there and i totally get it

[celest tide]

I am not going to argue about this..... read your tech manuals

[native sail]

[dense root]

but the context does matter and having steam idle is not going to ruin your gaming experience

[sinful laurel]

Internet problems being blamed again?

[surreal verge]

I never had issues with steam when I had 400kbs 2-3 years ago...

If steam can break your connection, I'm pretty sure you have other issues to worry about...

[sterile bane]

my issue is because of my lcoation for sure

im in a place that has no servers so all my connections are 200ms+ sometimes i get 300

well i failed my first lightless arbor. oh well

[dense root]

i feel like failing a dungeon on the first time is probably pretty common

like there are some attacks you absolutely have to dodge

[sterile bane]

it was just dumb decisions

is there a benefit to do areana and get to only wave 10?

[native sail]

Arbor also has possibly the most lethal boss if you ignore Julra's thing you have to shift for

[sterile bane]

my game just crashed right after i finished an echo. did i just lose the rewards?

[native sail]

Unfortunately, yeah

[sterile bane]

dang

[native sail]

I assume you mean before you were able to grab them anyway

[sterile bane]

yes

is there a point to do areana if you cant get past wave 10?

[native sail]

Not particularly. I'm of the opinion that there is no point to playing arena as a whole though

[latent canyon]

Not if you want the arena uniques

[surreal verge]

The only reason is arena uniques

Otherwise, why?

[latent canyon]

For leaderboards ig

[native sail]

I will play arena once they are the last uniques I need, then I will never touch it again after getting them

[fossil tulip]

hi everyone, how to finish those two?

[native sail]

Who wants to tell em?

[surreal verge]

Pick the other choice in the conversation

[sterile bane]

when do those show up?

[tight harbor]

Hello there,
Every time i launch the game, i have to wait 4-5 minutes on the first loading screen. Is it normal?

[sterile bane]

who has the most stash tabs here?

[native sail]

It uh... takes a while to load.

[native sail]

ask around and see if anyone has the cap

[tight harbor]

okay thanks for your answer

[surreal verge]

Arena Boss kills.

[fossil tulip]

which dialogue ?)

[tight harbor]

In one of the mono quest maps

[fossil tulip]

it points me somewhere else, somewhere where I do no thave TP

[surreal verge]

Each mono quest echo chain has conversation that has (Unlocks X lv monolith) at the end of their choice

Just pick the other one.

[sterile bane]

how many waves?

[surreal verge]

For t1-4 it's 40 I think

Wave 40 is the boss

[fossil tulip]

pickup another what?

what and where should I pickup?

[surreal verge]

The other choice.

the only thing I can say is read the conversations in the quest echoes

[fossil tulip]

this is stupid

I mean what's that mean)

[surreal verge]

Most Monoliths unlock two different routes to other monoliths.

And which one you unlock depends on a choice you make in one of the quest echoes.

[fossil tulip]

direction means literally directions>

?

[surreal verge]

Yes?

I have no clue how else I can explain it if you can't get it

[fossil tulip]

for exaple this has 4 directions one of which is reset?

[surreal verge]

No not THIS

the end of time map

Can you show me the monoliths you already have

[gaunt iris]

is there no dps stat on the Character screen ?

[fossil tulip]

there is no way to that green one(

[surreal verge]

No, closest is tooltip dps, and its a fat liar

[surreal verge]

ending the storm has a choice that sends you to regu of dragons.

regin*

Blood frost and death has a route that sends you to ending the storm

[native sail]

Second quest echo, gotta fight Liath

[fossil tulip]

where I can find that alterantive timeline?

[native sail]

Bro

[surreal verge]

^ for Ending the Storm, I forgot the one for blood frost and death I didn't do it

[native sail]

Go do the second quest echo in Ending The Storm and fight Liath, then go kill Lagon in the third one

BFG is... weird. I can never remember that one. I think it is also the second and it's which camp you go to?

[sterile bane]

is there a point to do more and more echos if you did the quest? do quest echoes keep resetting?

[surreal verge]

Yes. (And echo boss drops)

[native sail]

Not really a point to it until you get to empowered, then you can smash your head against the boss

[latent canyon]

When you fight an arena champ. I think usually at wave 50?

Unless its endless arena which happens at 90

[fossil tulip]

how can I change my choice?

[native sail]

Just go do it again

We have told you several times

[surreal verge]

Literally do it again and take the other choice

[fossil tulip]

do what?)

[surreal verge]

You done it in fall of the outcasts, it's just in a different quest echo

[native sail]

Has to be a troll

[surreal verge]

fall of the outcasts has a choice you do after killing the quest echo boss right?

[fossil tulip]

kill the last echo guy?

sorry, I am originally from PoE which is not that complex you know)

[native sail]

[knotty tinsel]

good one

[fossil tulip]

thanks anyway 🙂

appreciate it

[surreal verge]

I can't even tell if he's just dodging some of the replies we're typing or the english comprehension is lacking that's the issue

My 1 brain cell at 3am can't handle this

[knotty tinsel]

he's from poe he can't be dodging anything he must have iron reflexes** ||there's too much iron this and that in poe smh|| allocated

[native sail]

I don't know but my brain is actually smoking trying to comprehend the issue

[surreal verge]

It's not like he never made a quest echo choice before either

[sterile bane]

so when we going to start making guilds servers?

[knotty tinsel]

a few months ago XD

[sterile bane]

whoa whoa whoa. where??

[native sail]

[knotty tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/bouncer-club-bouncer-cant-get-in-rejected-gif-11283058

[native sail]

I am the progenitor of the sphere

We mostly complain about the state of general chat there. And sometimes Boru spits some philosophy stuff at us.

[sterile bane]

id like to join

[pastel pebble]

At what? Getting spat at?

[native sail]

The sphere

[near path]

I scrolled up and saw an Ask The Community chat chain that was legit stupider than anything I've read in general lately

What's the world coming to

[native sail]

Quest echo?

[buoyant oxide]

Does on hit count as both bow or melee hit?

[desert tree]

any kind of hits

[native sail]

If it doesn't specify anything just any hit

[desert tree]

bow melee spell throwing

[knotty tinsel]

on hit is any hit that's not not a hit

easy, no?

[buoyant oxide]

Okay cool, that's what I was guessing, thanks!

[knotty tinsel]

glad I could help and definitely not everyone else

[blissful veldt]

Hammer throw on sentinel supposed to go upwards?

Also the quests in the end of time areas which you unlock by collecting stability, are they supposed to have a quest tracker/marker?
I mean like other objectives on those islands which grant stability.
Those say for example: Kill these, survive x waves, survive ambush

[native sail]

You click the quest echoes on the side not like other ones in the web

[worldly cosmos]

is there a server tracking site? as EU west is playing up for me for last hour or so and rather not try to test it running monoliths

guess no change since march then, one site said none then. I was hopping for a change since then

[fossil tulip]

I am not, it's just so dumm, I have killed the boss, finished the quest but still cannot discover, ICANT

complete the monolith means kill boss into arena or complete 3 quests?

[surreal verge]

the 3 quests.

[fossil tulip]

and after that I can discover?)

[surreal verge]

You will discover within those 3 quests.

[fossil tulip]

echo needs to be empowered?

[fossil tulip]

Sir 🙂

[surreal verge]

No.

[surreal verge]

It's on a different quest for each monolith.

[fossil tulip]

thanks

[surreal verge]

For example the first monolith has it AFTER you kill the quest echo boss while another one might have it in the 2nd quest echo

[fossil tulip]

this doesn't mean any sense for me tbh

[boreal venture]

i just started a week ago and recently go to monoliths. but once i go to the level 75 echos im starting to really falll off and was wondering if there was anything im missing or any ways to get better stuff for my charater

[surreal verge]

Level diff? (Also you might want to start crafting if you still haven't)

[boreal venture]

when u say crafting do u mean the forge

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[boreal venture]

i mean i use it but my gear is idk...

it isnt bad but like

[surreal verge]

Then it's loot filter time.

[boreal venture]

there isnt much to upgrade

[surreal verge]

Assuming you havent

[boreal venture]

i have

[surreal verge]

Then I don't know what else to say tbh

[boreal venture]

i mean i was tearing through echos

maybe its just lagoon

i hate this guy

[surreal verge]

Oh, lagon's a check anyway

[boreal venture]

ive done like 10 attempts

[surreal verge]

What build are you running

[boreal venture]

bro does NOT need 12 diff 1 shots

lighting chakram

[surreal verge]

Chakram shouldn't have an issue with him...

[boreal venture]

maybe my hp sucks

is 800 bad

[surreal verge]

Defenses?

WHAT?

NOT EVEN 1K?

[boreal venture]

nope

[surreal verge]

Eh yeah, that's terrible.

[boreal venture]

all my gear level 50

im 73

[surreal verge]

You might want to upgrade your affixes...

[boreal venture]

everything i get above 50 is for other shi

[boreal venture]

ive been done that

with the forge right

[surreal verge]

Yes, then you might want to gear differently.

What other defenses do you have

[boreal venture]

uhhhh

[surreal verge]

Hey, there's still an affix slot there...

[boreal venture]

how i check that

[boreal venture]

idk what that means bro

im like

[surreal verge]

Char sheet.

[boreal venture]

super slow

[surreal verge]

Press C

Do you have resists? Dodge?

[surreal verge]

Glancing Blow?

[boreal venture]

i dont have dodge anymore

[surreal verge]

Oh my god you don't have resistances.

[surreal verge]

Of course lagon one shots you.

[boreal venture]

bro

i use my shift

i thought it gave 1 frames

shi just gets me killed

[surreal verge]

Only during the shift.

[boreal venture]

ITS THE BEGGING

OF THE SHIFT

THE LITERAL FIRST FRAME

[surreal verge]

The iframes are during travel time I think, I don't use that node enough to cfm that

[boreal venture]

im slaving away at this game at 3 am js to find out im ass

[surreal verge]

Anyway, stuff like water waves and the physical slam aren't supposed to one shot.

[boreal venture]

the waves

take me to 60

[surreal verge]

60hp or 60% hp?

[boreal venture]

the slam 1 shots

[boreal venture]

hp

[surreal verge]

Yeah you got a defense problem

Waves do like 1/5 of your hp at best.

[boreal venture]

????

that shi damn near 1 shots me

[surreal verge]

And slam does esti 50% hp with proper defenses.

[surreal verge]

Well, your hp is shite, you don't have damage resistances...

[boreal venture]

damn bro

so uh

what should i put in my loot fliter

[surreal verge]

Okay, I think that sword only having 3 affixes scare me

Hold on

You know how to add a new affix to your equipment, right?

[boreal venture]

n

o

😄

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/crafting_explanation

This would probably help you

[boreal venture]

igh

[surreal verge]

(Or read the game guide, it's actually useful)

[boreal venture]

wbu my loot fliter

anything i need

[surreal verge]

I honestly don't play lightning chakarm so idk what you specifically need.

I can't help you with that one, gotta ask someone else

[boreal venture]

damn

well

ty

[surreal verge]

Good luck, I think you won't be eating lagon's arse once you properly learn crafting

[fossil tulip]

so what should I pick?

I need 85 or 80 timeline?

[boreal venture]

@surreal verge last thing do melee and throwing still count as eacch other cause im confused

[surreal verge]

No, Melee is melee, throwing is throwing.

ANd spells is spell-

They're seperate

[boreal venture]

damn

😭

i need better armor in general ig

[surreal verge]

Which ever you didn't pick, (Probably the one where you fight her)

[fossil tulip]

I've killed her once

[surreal verge]

Then don't kill her.

[mild tinsel]

my first mono first quest echo not loading 😦
any advices?

[surreal verge]

Verify game files

[mild tinsel]

Turns out its an old bug 😦

[boreal venture]

@surreal verge so what are some good ways to get hp

all ive done is increase damage

i do not want a glass cannon

and i beat lagon 😄

[surreal verge]

Your affixes have two types, prefixes are offense, sufixes are defensive

[boreal venture]

oh

[surreal verge]

Most of the time sufixes are for resistances ,health or armour

[boreal venture]

ah

i see

[surreal verge]

So on your non-wep equips you mostly craft in resistances you need, or health if you maxed them already

[exotic idol]

does anyone know why the ice enemies 1) create horrible FPS lag and if there is a way to reduce it, and 2) deal so much dmg even with maxxed res?

[faint cape]

ice enemies are a constant struggle - they fixed the ice elementals, but they got un-fixed somehow

avalanche is just OP

[buoyant trench]

Is it normal that when I play an offline character, I still need to play online?

[sterile widget]

At the moment, yes

You still have to log in to play, even for offline characters

However, true offline is coming in the future

[faint cape]

Just to be clear, you aren't playing online with your offline character, you just need to log in. After log in, you can completely disconnect from the internet and you'll just lose the chat.

[buoyant trench]

Gotcha! TY!

[sterile bane]

DEV STREAM TONIGHT

[cedar locust]

[vestal path]

hey guys. im kinda disappointed with d4 and decided im going to check out LE again. can someone recommend a nice build thats fun and not too piano-esque

all my shit is probably putdated and i expect to have to farm up some new items

[latent canyon]

Need to be more specific. Ranged? Melee? Any specific class?

[vestal path]

dont really care, i feel like ranged is probably a tad more favored, considering it usually ends up being easier to farm monoliths

but that may have changed since i last played (before multiplayer, dont remember which version exactly)

i guess i could point out some of my favorite poe builds, i suppose?

[dense root]

just play bladedancer it's busted

[cedar locust]

I'm biased but BD Rogue with a focus on shuriken's is great fun

[sinful laurel]

Lots of ways to do ranged non piano

[vestal path]

two independent rogue mentions, sounds good to me

i have a bd lethal mirage character from way back when, gonna start new of course tho

maybe he has some items i can steal, dont remember

[latent canyon]

👍

A lightning chakram maybe

Pretty strong damage good clear

[cedar locust]

Starting new is the best idea as Chapter 1 had a huge overhaul and looks amazing!!

(Head's up - mob density increased in Ch1 and you shouldn't just blindly run around and aggro the whole map anymore 😅 )

[vestal path]

i think lightning conversion is always a nice option, had a bunch of those previously

curious to see if performance improved a lil bit, used to have a few issues here and there with random fps drops and quite high gpu usage

remember a specific monolith map layout with very high density where my fps just plummeted from 120-ish to 30

[cedar locust]

Well if you do run into any issues it's a good idea to search the discord for fixes though do please make a report on the Bug Forum here : https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports/23 so the team is aware of what happened!

And always remember -

[vestal path]

honestly, lemme just do that right now before i even play 😄

[cedar locust]

It's good practice to verify your files after every new install and patch for any game tbh

[vestal path]

got no downloads, so i assume everything is up to snuff

[cedar locust]

Steam may have cleared your history, so if you haven't played in a short while it's still worth doing - even huge games don't take long to verify 😊

[vestal path]

@cedar locustwhen you say shurikens focus, do you mean using it as a primary skill or support for like the blade shield stuff?

[boreal venture]

is there away to change the exalted stat without making it a rare again

[dense root]

no

[cedar locust]

I have shurikens on W as my primary, with Cinderstrike on Q to use with Flurry (bound to right click) for CQC and Shift on E. I have Ballista on R and one of my side buttons on my mouse as it doesn't need constant pressing 🙂

[vestal path]

ok ima see what i cobble together then

[surreal verge]

Nope

[faint cape]

Rune of refinement changes the exalted stat without changing rarity. Though I don't think this is what you're looking for.

[sour jewel]

does ailments from skill (bleed/chill/poison) get affected by skill scalings per stat?

[sinful laurel]

Yes

[sour jewel]

not sure if u understood exactly what i meant (since it feels ridiculously strong in my perspective) any node on skill tree that applies any ailment affects by this scaling, right?

[lean pewter]

Is Aspect of the storm not working or just effect not being displayed?

[sour jewel]

not displayed

[median garden]

Do idols have a hidden ilvl or can any idol drop anywhere?

[surreal verge]

The latter.

[surreal verge]

Yes, but remember, ailment base damage can't be scaled.

40% of 100 damage is just 140 damage.

[median garden]

So a lvl 1 character could find a bis idol for a lvl 99? Huh interesting. The really good stuff must just be very rare then thanks

[sterile bane]

can u get corruption before completing all of the monos?

[sinful laurel]

Yes, but only 50 max before empowered

[pastel pebble]

Its not worthwhile to farm corruption in unempowred

[sterile bane]

ok thanks

im in a weird timezone. is it 2 hours till dev stream?

[faint cape]

Each shape has a minimum level requirement, but the highest is 30, so it quickly becomes irrelevant

and unique ones follow the usual unique rules (there's only one random drop, level 42, the others are boss-exclusive)

[vestal path]

@cedar locustim afraid i got baited by the hammerdin ... again >_>

[latent canyon]

Does anyone know if i have a dead player in boss arena does that still apply the multiple player hp penalty on bosses

[faint cape]

Until you see the message in chat that says the scaling changed, I'd assume it hasn't changed

I avoid arena, so I haven't come into that situation yet

[latent canyon]

There is a distance of such scaling we have confirmed. But im not sure if dead boby counts yet

Even if the chat box doesnt announce it if you stay far way like in heorot fight he doesn't get hp bonus

[faint cape]

huh, sounds difficult to confirm - as far as I know, it's 'zone scaling' applied to the whole zone

have we asked the devs about that yet or is it info'd in patch notes or something?

[latent canyon]

That one was confirmed cuz we have a build with very high burst in a 2 man party

And the second player being near and far is huge difference in terms of hp drop per cast

Prolly just need to test again while one of us being dead

[faint cape]

Easier to just ask something like this tbh

Patch notes say
Enemies gain additional health based on the number of players in the zone. This scaling is more exaggerated in later chapters and endgame activities. Enemy damage, quantity, and other properties do not change based on the number of players.

[latent canyon]

👍

[sterile bane]

whats a bow ability?

[sinful laurel]

An ability that has the bow or ranged attack tag?

[buoyant trench]

In offline mode, my character's HP goes to 0, but doesn't die, is that a bug?

[sterile widget]

Probably.

[dense root]

!bug

[ripe brook]

To make sure a bug gets fixed, please post about it here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports.

[buoyant trench]

Sent.

[lament spruce]

how do you toggle ui on and off.... somehow i think i toggled it off b ut now i can't see most windows. Even the esc key window i can not see. I can't log out, and do not want to lose my progress.

[near path]

I believe it's the delete key?

Or the scroll lock key

One of them afaik

[lament spruce]

F12, delete, scroll lock don't work... is there a manual somewhere yet? or a command key somewhere

[boreal venture]

idk if this is just me but has anyone like randomly not load into echos

or back out

like i have to alt f4 to restart my game

[vestal path]

if you do a quest echo as the first echo after you started the game it doesnt load for me

maybe you have the same

[boreal venture]

nah

i js be doing echos

and like every 1 out of 6 doesnt load

[vestal path]

oof

:/

is there a website where i can make a lootfilter?

i wanna watch something on the side so i dont wanna open the game ._.

[surreal verge]

Known bug, we're all suffering

[weary imp]

Hey guys, does anyone have the same problm, when im in echos i cant dps

litteraly need to alt f4

monsters can hit me, but i cna only run

[analog widget]

Hey guys, I love the game and I am new, however, I find something annoying when I used the personal portal through map menu, the map display is in the middle of the screen instead in the top right. How to change it back to be on the top right?

[dense root]

press tab

[vestal path]

uhhh, i got a red drop labeled "beer"

cant pick it up

as a german, i am highly distressed. what is this beer item, and why wont the game let me have it?

[dense root]

it's a potion

and you probably have max potions already

[vestal path]

awww, cool, but also slightly disappointing 😄

well, lets hope its a good polish/czech/german beer and move on i guess

[knotty tinsel]

every potion has a low chance of being named beer instead

just a fun easter egg

[analog widget]

You're the BEST, ty 😄

[sterile bane]

we know what the first special event will be

[sterile bane]

ohhhh

[thin tinsel]

generally speaking, if passives, skilltree nodes or what ever say "this and that triggers if you kill something" do dots count in that case?

[surreal verge]

If you're the one that applied it, yes

[thin tinsel]

sweet thx!

[ivory prairie]

Why is it that I start at the beginning of the keepers camp and always have to reexplore when I load the game?

[vestal path]

got my first weavers will item, can someone tell me what that exactly is?

its weavers will 7

[latent canyon]

Its will give you 7(=ww number) tiers worth of affixes . Distributed to 1-4 affixes

[vestal path]

do i need to do a dungeon? is it like veiled stuff from poe?

i unlock them?

[native sail]

Equip the item and go kill

That's it

[vestal path]

oh nvm

ah yeh just noticed number reduced and it got new stuff

even good stuff

nice

dang it went the wrong direction, adding throwing dmg on my hammerdin, but i procc smite, bummer

[knotty tinsel]

None of the primalist's Aspect buffs stack right?

except for crow which specifies ofc

[faint cape]

Not unless otherwise stated. Shark can be modified to stack.

[sterile bane]

@tame token have you ever posted anything?

[dapper pendant]

Am... Am I the only person who loses it over the item borders cutting the corner images in our inventory? Like... I know it's just two faded circles and a line between them, but it feels like that detail shouldn't be hidden behind the item border...

[toxic saffron]

What is the easiest timeline to push corruption ? I mean, some modifiers are real nuke at high level corruption (void and elemental damage for example), is there a timeline where modifiers or mob types are a bit easier to handle ?

[dense root]

i can say with certainty that i had never noticed this before and will immediately forget after looking away from this channel

[sinful laurel]

I'm confused what the issue even is

[dense root]

there’s a rounded corner when you don’t have an item there and the item covers up part of it

[dapper pendant]

The four corners of the inventory have a slight graphic that is faded and is hidden behind item borders... And my brain can't unsee it.

[sinful laurel]

Oh I see it. And I can't imagine caring about anything less lol

Weird the things that get stuck in our brains

[dapper pendant]

I don't know why my brain can't just get past it... I'm so weird. lol

[turbid panther]

1. Will a character's inventory and gear carry over into release?

2. Will that gear be useable on another new character on the same account after release?

3. Does release mean having to create a new character and forget about the one already made prior to release?

[sinful laurel]

Yes
Yes
Only if you care about ladder ranking

[turbid panther]

Thanks Primeval!

[faint cape]

Just to clarify on #2, it just all depends on stash access. So, if you do choose to make a new character in a mode that doesn't share stash, or in a temporary 'Cycle', you won't be able to access the same stash.

[mild tinsel]

Do the exalted nodes follow the same logic as unique or set nodes in monos? so for example for the staves I should be targeting the same mono which rolls uniq staves?

[native sail]

Nope

[mild tinsel]

random appearance?

[faint cape]

correct

[boreal venture]

do yall think i could make a good sorc build around ice related ablities?

cause i seem to only seem alot of lighting builds

[dense root]

you definitely can

[boreal venture]

oh bet

what skill should i spec in first

[dense root]

no idea

[sinful laurel]

Ice barrage is great, cold converted lightning blast, glacier, cold converted static orb, even cold volcanic orb.

Although VO is way better as a dot build

[drowsy hornet]

how easy is it to farm a specific common unique when corruption is in the 600s. Like if I wanted to find one with LP

[native sail]

Should be ridiculously easy to do so. Just keep in mind high corruption != high LP or even any LP

[karmic imp]

does any1 know that "increased minion cooldown recovery speed" works for minion skills eg (skeleton warrior bone armor) or cooldown of minion skills?

[near path]

Cooldown of the skills that minion use

[toxic saffron]

Trying again ☺️ What is the easiest timeline to push corruption ? I mean, some modifiers are real nuke at high level corruption (void and elemental damage for example), is there a timeline where modifiers or mob types are a bit easier to handle ?

[surreal verge]

If you're talking about normal monos, no. It's all RNG.

(Different matter if you're farming quest echoes, but you normally do that for boss drops so...)

Modifiers are dependent on RNG and your current corruption.

And mob types are literally at the whim of RNGesus. Any mob type can appear in any monolith.

[toxic saffron]

Thanks, I meant empowered, like on what timeline should I play to push to 1000 corruption ?

[surreal verge]

Any. There is no difference, you're at the whim of RNGesus. Good luck have fun.

[sterile widget]

Every timeline has different echo zones and enemy types. As such, you may find it easier to push on certain timelines depending on your build.

Honestly, the people who are best to answer this usually chilling in general chat in about 12 hours time

[surreal verge]

There's a difference? I keep seeing everything, everywhere

[toxic saffron]

Yep, different bosses as well. Some zones like the halls in the mountains are pain in the ass.

[sterile widget]

Yeah. Tunklabs has the details @surreal verge

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/timeline/fall_of_the_outcasts

Check it out 🙂

[surreal verge]

Well, today I learned.

Then it would be 1000% built dependant and what you're weak to no?

[sterile widget]

Pretty much

[surreal verge]

Which mostly would require self identification.

And there's no general answer.

[sterile widget]

That's why I suggest general. Leo, Sam and Gnassher are all doing silly corruption stuff

They're the people most likely to know

Gnassher in particular as I believe he's on his 3rd build past 1000 corruption now

[toxic saffron]

Looks good, no crazy elemental or void damage modifiers 👍

[sterile widget]

Yeah. That void mod....

Even at 200 it can be brutal 😄

If you stack enough of them

[sterile bane]

i have the option to reroll all my active echoes in my low lvl mono, should i?

[sterile widget]

Opinions differ. Personally, I'd say if you're looking for something along the way to empowered, why not... 🙂

Others would probably say to focus on building corruption and do it later as its more efficient

Depends how much you value efficiency I suppose

[vestal path]

alright, i wanna farm up a bastion of honour

does it make a difference if i run regular monoliths or empowered?

[sterile bane]

but if its a low lvl mono is there a point to do corruption on it?

[vestal path]

or better phrased, shouldi run black sun or wait until i get to empowered black sun?

quick question, when making loot filter rules, if i just add affixes, it does not check implicits right?

say i add affix "spell damage" on sceptres, it doesnt react to any scepter that has spell dmg on the implicit, right?

[surreal verge]

empowered,always.

[surreal verge]

Correct.

[vestal path]

tyvm

do you happen to know how much of a difference empowered makes when famring for a unique?

rare shields are kinda meh and i really want the damn bastion ^^

[sterile bane]

how do you display your name on top of your character?

[surreal verge]

Setting.

[surreal verge]

Yes.jpeg. Higher corruption= higher chance of uniques=more rolls to try and get the unique you want

There is no reason to farm normal monos

If you can't push corruption just stay at 100.

[timid abyss]

Hello !
The game takes a very long time to launch and exit. Do you have an idea ? In game it's ok.

[vestal path]

its more about the time it takes to get to empowered

im only lvl 58 or something ^^

empowereds you reach at what, like lvl 80?

long way to go without a bastion ._.

[surreal verge]

Bastion is a super rare, so the time taken to farm it in normals is more than enough to reach empowered and farm it up instead.

[vestal path]

fair enough i suppose

if reality worked like i want it to i would be due one anyhow, considering how much i played already before multiplayer came out >_>

but yeah, sadly i need to listen to how it actually works. guess i craft a meh one

[thin tinsel]

I started playing after the multiplayer update, 400 hours+ no bastion yet, i didnt farm for it tho, so like kzb said, just go for empowered, if you already have expierence in the game there is literally no reason to invest time into normal monos

[near path]

Hardly, you'll be there by about 70 or a bit less

[sterile bane]

but is it worth doing corruption on low lvl monos?

[near path]

No

The rarity bonus scales with corruption and afaik has a weak effect anyway. Doing it at like 50 corruption would just be garbage

[sterile bane]

i thought so

[sterile bane]

is anyone getting stuck at loading echo screen?

[toxic saffron]

Yep

[sterile bane]

ok. thought i was the only one

[toxic saffron]

Solved by restarting the game but keeps coming back

[sterile bane]

yep

!bug

[ripe brook]

To make sure a bug gets fixed, please post about it here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports.

[acoustic thicket]

From time to time, I cannot hit mobs or use skills in the middle of a fight, only gets fixed by opening a portal and coming back, is this a known issue?

[wild epoch]

Hey, do myself and my minions get 2 stacks of the buffs from the spriggan aura when I have multiple spriggans out?

[vestal path]

is there a way to export my character to one of the build planner tools? for sharing/minmaxing purposes

[sinful laurel]

Not online no. Not yet

[vestal path]

im playing offline

i assume i can import the save then?

[sinful laurel]

Then I think LEtools will still let you yeah

[vestal path]

neat tyvm

[faint cape]

No, but the healing should stack, I think.

[vestal path]

does someone know why the "throwing damage and reduced mana cost" affix doesnt seem to work in filters?

i got like 4 rings with that affix, and a filter rule at the very top that is supposed to recolor and all caps them

[knotty tinsel]

no way for us to know the issue without seeing the filter rule(s)

[vestal path]

huh, just unticked it and did it again and now it works, guess just a hiccup O.o

[knotty tinsel]

emphasizing text in recolor filter rules can cause items to be textless or have weird jumbled text when they first drop, so maybe it was that

[vestal path]

oh i saw that a few times, good to know its coming from there

but i dont think it was the same, it just displayed the rings as regular yellow items

no scrambling or anyhting

unless that can also happen, in which case i need to remove the recolor cause that can cost me good items O.o

[surreal verge]

No, it'll either recolor properly or become textless/enchanting table language

[vestal path]

ah then im fine with that

as long as it visually stands out i dont care 😄

[faint cape]

it's just the 'emphasis' that bugs it out, the recolor works perfectly fine

when things show up with no text due to emphasis wonking up, it definitely does not visually stand out

[vestal path]

ok apparently today i just have a load of questions: im trying to make some more lootfilters, is there a way to see which affixes can roll on a specific piece of equipment?

[latent canyon]

Le tools

Build planner

[vestal path]

ok, im having issues reading this properly ._.

ok i think i understand, thats sadly not very useful

its way too clunky. is there a way for the ingame filter editor to just exclude inappropriate affixes on stuff?

[latent canyon]

No

[surreal verge]

Nope.

[vestal path]

boooo >> guess i click on every dman affix that i need ..

[native sail]

Or just memorize what can go where

[vestal path]

sure, just quickly memorize that in a couple seocnds, no biggie 😄

[surreal verge]

The other way is to search up the specific affix in LE tools and it does tell you where that affix can go

[vestal path]

ooooh that might be slightly more workable

[surreal verge]

Examples-

[sterile bane]

whats the name of the belt that adds like 16 potion slots?

[latent canyon]

Jungle queen

For keyword

[vestal path]

@surreal vergetyvm. figured that out too. was hoping for an easier to read list, sadly the tier levels make it all fairly clunky

[surreal verge]

Yeah we don't have a good way of doing that, so most of the time we just choose all the affixes we need

[vestal path]

also could use conditionals

like "if an item has spell damage on it, highlight it if it also has lightning damage"

or similar shit

the issue with the "hit all affixes" for me is that on some items, i dont want certain things. so i need to make a rule for specific items, which would benefit greatly from only lsiting appropriate affixes

but yeh, minor QoL stuff

[surreal verge]

We gotta make do with what we have rn sadly.

[vestal path]

i need to decide if i want stricter filters or not, due to the lack of conditionals, i need to go with "has to have one or more affixes listed"

my adhd brain screams at me "if you make it stricter your gonna misso ut on the best item ever" 😄

[latent canyon]

When crafting is a thing you really shouldn't be too strict

I only recolor purple items. Never hide them

[vestal path]

yeah ik i can craft on things, but its hard to justify picking up every want with spell dmg on it if that means i need to redo the other 3 affixes, hard to find the point of "just right"

i guess im just randing, sorry 😄

i really hope lootfilters get conditionals tho, so many cases where you are only interested in items if a certain affix is definitely present

oh wait i can actually make that nvm, im stupid

ah no, cant make that, arghlfl

[near path]

Mods have talked about how they specifically don't want a scenario where your loot filter is so setup that anything it shows is 100% always worth pickup

[vestal path]

if i could just add the affix line to a rule twice, would solve my issue. cause lets be real, who picks up boots without movement speed on them 😄

i mean i get that, but there are some cases where it just gets in the way

personally i dont agree with that design philosophy, but i get it, they want the game to be interactive and offering up prompts for the player to make a decision on (in this case actively looking at the item and checking if its usable)

but man, seriously, who picks up boots without movement speed, lemme fix that affix at least ^^

[native sail]

I pick up boots with move speed if it has 2-3 other affixes I want and I have the opportunity to try and turn the other thing into move speed. Basic crafting.

[vestal path]

i mean thats doable sure, but considering the limited affix set on boots, it just feels like a chore getting ms on them, id rather have a filter rule that allowed me to set ms as a prerequisite, and then throw a bunch of other stuff in and pick up any with those on top of ms

[native sail]

That just sounds like you're not really well-versed in crafting

[vestal path]

i dont see how?

[native sail]

It's not a struggle to get ms on them because it's so limited. It's a lot more difficult to roll into like % health on body than it is to roll in move speed on boots.

[vestal path]

i know i can change affixes, but its a chore trying to do it on every other pair of boots, i will aknowledge that i sound like a lazy gamer, which is fair ^^ but i dont quite see how that relates to my knowledge with crafting

[native sail]

Besides that, there's two ways to remove an affix and one of them is damn near deterministic

[vestal path]

oh i mean fair enough, i suppose thats just a difference in what we consider annoying or not, but you are right, its much easier than on other items

[surreal verge]

I guess he means that movespeed shards are common enough that you might as well find for rare affixes on items and craft in the common ones.

[vestal path]

ok that i dont know about. which one do you consider near deterministic?

cause i gotta tell you, i got horrible luck on record on the sealing

[surreal verge]

Sealing a T1 is 100% if it is an exalted with 4 affixes.

[native sail]

That's the one. I've yet to fail on anything lower than tier 3

[sinful laurel]

jealous

[surreal verge]

Lucksack.

[vestal path]

i assumed thats the one we are talking about, and i will admit, its my own damn fault for refusing to seal things on t1^:D

[native sail]

Don't worry, I kill my FP on the big ticket items instead

[sinful laurel]

i fail t2s all the damn time. it makes me so sadge

[surreal verge]

Yeahhh if it''s a t1 you can use but don't 100% need, seal it and get that slot.

[vestal path]

i never try fusing below t3 ..

[surreal verge]

Use it for something you NEED

[vestal path]

b-b-b-but the perfect rolls man

i mean the point of "min maxing" my lootfilter is to get better rolls, so it feels counterproductive to do something that guarantees lesser loot 😄

but yeah, thats on me, fully agree

[native sail]

I have so far bricked 4 3LP items I was planning on using on an actual non-meme project, bricked multiple semi-usable double exalts, deleted multiple +4 relics and bodies, AND bricked a T7 % health and T6 skill chest in exactly 3 crafts.

[vestal path]

also i only have 6 despairs (shaking hand at the rngjesus)

[surreal verge]

It's hard to get perfects in LE, if you're pushing for upgrades, getting "Good enoughs" will at least slowly make you stronger-

[vestal path]

yeh ik

and im only working towards empowered on this character anyway, so premature to fuss too much

i was just in a ranting mood i suppose

[thin tinsel]

guys i submited a bug in the forum a while ago, i didnt get a response but after looking at it again i am pretty sure its probably more a tooltip error and not a bug, should i report it there too?

[desert tree]

What did you report? Just curious

And yeah go in #tooltip-hunt

[thin tinsel]

this thing is either missing "recently" or its bugged

[near path]

the Sentinel idols that give you increased damage if a skill has echoed recently, do they 1. stack with each other, and 2. stack EVERY time a skill echoes?

[buoyant sinew]

1. they do sum with each other if you have multiple
2. no, they're on or off. either a skill has echoed recently or it hasn't, how many skills have echoed recently doesn't matter.

[near path]

gotcha ty

[boreal venture]

how do i use the auto generated loot filter on the build website

?

[amber void]

with skills that have 2 adaptative damage in their tag, what crit chance (or chance of ailments of specific adaptative damage) use?

[sinful laurel]

Huh? Example?

[boreal venture]

does corruption make more unique echoes appear?

[near path]

As per the devs it does but afaik there's no quantifiable formula for it and it's still heavily RNG dependent

[amber void]

Judgement have the spell and melee tag

[boreal venture]

oh yea i saw i js need to go farhter out

but how do i get runes of ascendence

[near path]

From rune reward echoes and also from running dungeons on days when enemies drop more runes

Also you can sometimes prime Lightless Arbor rewards to help you with that as well

[boreal venture]

ohh

where do i see the different days

for what they give

[near path]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/dungeons

[boreal venture]

???

why cant i pick these up

[near path]

Press Z

Unless they're just hidden by your loot filter

[sinful laurel]

I think I know what you're asking. 1. Global crit chance affects everything, melee affects melee hits, spell affects spell hits. 2. Chance of ailment isn't specific to type of hit damage that applies it, you can apply any Ailment with any hit

[boreal venture]

brooo

[native sail]

Judgement has two parts to it. The initial hit, which is melee and not spell; and the lingering DoT effect, which is spell and not melee (and also cannot crit)

[boreal venture]

im disbaling my fliter

[native sail]

Hit alt+Z

[boreal venture]

omg

ty

[polar holly]

does earthquake with ground slam spec work when triggered by bhuldar's wrath?

it says "using directly", but i saw in some vids that it worked with maul

[polar holly]

welp i just tested, ground slam doesnt work when triggered

[desert tree]

I would thought so

[vestal path]

yooo 16 WW cradle of the erased, thats pretty good right?

[surreal verge]

That would depend on the affixes it'll roll

[native sail]

Max is 28, highest I've gotten is 19, obviously the higher it is the harder to get

[vestal path]

sure, but i guess the base item is decent, considering im still hunting for the bastion of honour, the base cradle isnt too bad

[surreal verge]

Yeah cradle is pretty decent, with the correct rolls it's really good

[vestal path]

ah it seems i misunderstood it, i thought it gets infinite stacks but it seems to be capped at 4 stacks

cant seem to find it on the tooltip

[surreal verge]

Yeah, but it still allows guranteed blocks

[native sail]

Hold ctrl+alt on it

[vestal path]

ooooo good tip, thanks

but yeah its a decent shield, lets hope it rolls some health for me ^-^

[native sail]

[vestal path]

first affix "health on block" good start

gimme percentage health and im honestly fine

[native sail]

Shields can only get flat health

[vestal path]

oh, bummer

fine with that too tho

[native sail]

Get block chance and health

[spark yacht]

Hey, recently bought the game, finally reached emp monos but I'm struggling with dps (playing bleed detonating arrow marksman until I get gear for HoA). How does bleed really work, my char sheet shows my bleed damage is 632, from wiki Ive read that you can stack infinite amount of bleeds on the target but even with 100 stacks and 10x phys resist shred I dont see me doing any reasonable damage, is there anything Im missing or is the number on enemy debuff something else differently

[native sail]

Honestly, I think your issue might be that 100 stacks isn't really a ton. Most people who spec hard into DoT builds stack high very quickly.

[surreal verge]

That number is before resistances just for your info.

Yeah, a proper bleed build hits 100 pretty easily.

[dense root]

don’t most enemies have zero res by default

[surreal verge]

Oh ye, mono modifiers might create an oopsie to be fair

[dense root]

you could add resistances yeah

[spark yacht]

Im 100% sure my mono modifier didnt account for phys res, but even with 10 stacks of shred and ~100 bleed stacks I could only see ticks of 3,5k where my hit damage from DA is 1-1.5k, just wondering hows bleed dps calculated

[native sail]

As an example, when I played bleed Shield Rush I hit 36 stacks of bleed per attack. And I attacked roughly 13 times per second.

[spark yacht]

My gear is pretty trash too, and im constrained by mana/as for morr stacks

[surreal verge]

The number listed in the sheet is the total damage it'll do on a default duration

So 632 over 3 seconds.

[vestal path]

can i post screenshots in here?

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[native sail]

Yep

[vestal path]

mixed bag, but not awful garbage, think i should be happy, yeah?

[surreal verge]

So on that number bleed would tick for about 200 damage per second.

[vestal path]

could do with more block chance and less health on block, for sure, also phys res kinda wasted on it

but yeah, i think i got pretty lucky, right? obviously health would have been awesome

t6 health on block is kinda funny tho >_>

[surreal verge]

IT's not terrible at least-

[native sail]

Hope those points go into block chance

[vestal path]

yeh

also unlocked empowereds finally

took me to lvl 79, no idea how to do it faster, i literally just shield rushed to objectives ^^

[dense root]

honestly that’s pretty normal

[native sail]

I reach them from 70-80 range usually

Some things just clear real fast

[vestal path]

someone said its around lvl70 the other day

[native sail]

If you're real fast yeah

[vestal path]

maybe my hammerdin kills too much crap, but yeah, cant see how i could have done it faster

i suppose if i had been faster on the campaign

[dense root]

it’s earlier on alts too

since you get to skip a chunk of the campaign with dungeon

[native sail]

I have never hated this game more

[dense root]

oh hey i got one of those too

[surreal verge]

The hell is this

[dense root]

different base but otherwise the same

[vestal path]

wait, what do you mean @dense root ?

[native sail]

Fucking T7 stun avoid and nothing else. Dropped like that.

[surreal verge]

The hell is that LOL.

Whack drop

[dense root]

if you finish a dungeon on an alt it skips part of the campaign

[vestal path]

... wish i had known that earlier 😄

[native sail]

Well you also need keys to do dungeons

So if it's your first toon that's not available

[surreal verge]

And it doesn't give you the passive points and idol slots from the side quests.

So it's use is debatable imo

[native sail]

Mmm I love Soulfire Bastion, what a cool dungeon dying on the boss to fire damage when the visual is necrotic

[vestal path]

i got shitloads of keys

ah yeah idol slots kinda essential for this build

no idols, no smitep rocs

[dense root]

there are enough of them that you can still get all you can while skipping with one dungeon

[vestal path]

ok maybe i exaggerated my key situation

[surreal verge]

But that means you might have to fight lagon..

[native sail]

I just don't do dungeons for campaign skips

I always end before Lagon

[vestal path]

last time i played dungeons were fairly new, i dont actually know what they are really good for

[surreal verge]

Yeah the no skip path gives you everything right before lagon's area.

[vestal path]

i mean i know one of them is good for legendaries, and exalt farming

but like, "proper usage" i dont know

[native sail]

Temporal Sanctum is legendaries + exalt farming
The other two are gambling in two different ways

Lightless Arbor = gold sink + gambling

Soulfire Bastion = gambling. Just gambling.

[vestal path]

i remember having done all of them at least once

and yeah the gold sink one was brutal

dont remember the outcome, but that i spent like 1.5mil or something

[native sail]

I've spent 5.5mil in one go

[spark yacht]

Is there a cap on stash tabs

[vestal path]

dont think i ever had that much gold

[native sail]

200

[vestal path]

i bought too many stash tabs ^^

[surreal verge]

Good luck hitting even 100 tabs without going broke

[native sail]

[surreal verge]

[native sail]

I was over 3mil two days ago

[vestal path]

i only have 26 tabs >_<

[native sail]

I'm at uh... 53? I think?

I need to do some organizing

They're actually hell

[dense root]

i try not to think about how much i’ve spent on tabs full of junk

[vestal path]

btw my cradle went up to 9% block chance, only t4, slightly disappointing

but i cant complain

which channel on here would be a good place to try to figure out lacking areas od a build?

like i feel im missing dmg, not sure where

[dense root]

probably the class channel?

here might work too though

there isn’t like a build help channel as far as i know

[languid lantern]

hey, if i get 100% affix "less bonus damage taken from critical strikes", does it mean that i take no bonus damage from crits?

[desert tree]

You are right

[surreal verge]

(Can you even get 100%?)

Okay, you technically can

[desert tree]

T5+

Or dragon shoes + a t1 or 2

Iirc

[surreal verge]

Dragon boots needed but yeah

[desert tree]

If you get a max rolled t5 you are good

Or a t6 or 7

[knotty tinsel]

or LP leviathan carver lol

[autumn tiger]

apparently the game doesn't sort them for me... but this is a full tab. I used to have an entire stash tab full of arena keys but I recently sold off a million's worth

I know some people have like 4-5x more than either of us

[vestal path]

i sorted them by hand

cause brain >_>

oh yeah i sold a near full tab at some point, but befure the multiplayer update

[knotty tinsel]

intrusive thoughts says push the sort button

you know you wanna

[vestal path]

naw ocd brain yells louder ^^

[thin tinsel]

anyone else noticed temporal sanctum keys not dropping anymore?

[knotty tinsel]

no

rng is rng

[vestal path]

i got some earlier, so cannot confirm

[knotty tinsel]

I also get zero runes of ascendance

but that's just how the cookie crumbles

[surreal verge]

Shit's pretty rare imo.

I only got a handful

[vestal path]

earlier i wasted my last 5 ascendances and imemdiately got 3 in like two monoliths

rng is wild sometimes

[sterile bane]

ive gotten a couple. im saving them fro when its really worth it

[vestal path]

im throwing them all on shields >_>

[thin tinsel]

i would make fractured crowns, if i would get the fucking exalteds for it -.-

[desert tree]

Another bastion seeker

😅

[shrewd owl]

is anyone else having trouble loading echos today? it just started this morning but ive had to restart 3 times now. I dont think its connection on my end.