❔┃ask-the-community

[analog wadi]

lo0l choose 62 next time

[mild geyser]

jesus christ. lol

I've chosen 66 like 4 times

[analog wadi]

try doing the lvl 66 mon

go right

[wary turret]

The quest doesn't leave for some reason...just go to the next mono xD

[mighty mango]

wuts even the point even choosing 62?

[analog wadi]

like right from wp

[mild geyser]

what do you mean?

[analog wadi]

go left and get different blessings

waypoint

[mild geyser]

I kill the abomination. I talk to the ghost. choose 66. and that's it. its over

[analog wadi]

no\

[mild geyser]

there is no "going left"

[analog wadi]

you get taken to a way point after rigt?

[mild geyser]

no

you just go back to the loot base

[wary turret]

Go to waypoint. Go right

profit

[analog wadi]

there are trails to other monos

[mild geyser]

what do you mean "go right". there's no going left, right, anything

yeah. but going to the other mono is irrelevant b/c the quest still isnt done at the first

[analog wadi]

kill the abominatoin

[mild geyser]

did. 4 times

[analog wadi]

dont do that mono anymore

ok

dont do that mono anymore

[mild geyser]

its not complete

[analog wadi]

go back to where you get your mastery

listen

enter the place of monos

the monolith of fate\

enter

go right from waypoint

let the trail fix itself

you have entered the next area

[mild geyser]

yeah I did that

I already beat the next mono

but there's still an uncompleted quest at the first

[analog wadi]

yea do lvl 62

[mild geyser]

did it

oh wait

no I did 66

is this 62?

so I kill abomination again and choose 62 in chat, to go there?

[analog wadi]

fall of the outcasts you kill abomination and you choose past

[wary turret]

Don't have to do the 62. Just follow the mono's up to the 90s, complete the 90s. Go to center platform between 90s, boom empowered unlock

[analog wadi]

yep

he wants to complete quest

[mild geyser]

right

ok. wow that's weird and really confusing. but thank you guys

[wary turret]

Can complete the quest in empowered afaik. (if not that's unfortunate)

Which has the added benefit of being worth it.

[mild geyser]

ok all of a sudden I am taking shitloads of dmg from shitty lvl 58 echos when I am level 70, and I was clearing lvl 75 echoes with no effort all day today

can something cause the game to bug out and ignore your resists?

[zinc anchor]

Do they have the node "apply mark for death on hit"?

[mild geyser]

I dunno. it happened like 5 echoes in a row

[zinc anchor]

Probably had mark for death that lasted 5 echoes XD

It's a scary debuff

[wary turret]

Could be your modifiers. Right side of screen. Could also have higher crit rate vs non 100% crit avoid.

[sage sparrow]

how does mark for death work exactly?

[wary turret]

-25% all res while it's on you.

[sage sparrow]

so if you have 100 resist you can ignore it?

[zinc anchor]

Or it could have been enrage at half health, I hear that's bad

[wary turret]

Yeah, ignoring other debuffs and potential shred. But just as far as mark for death goes yeah.

[sage sparrow]

you seem like you know a lot about this game

[wary turret]

I don't.

[sage sparrow]

maybe you can answer this.. you know um.. that big tree boss before the money door

[wary turret]

Don't know much about him haha. Haven't done arbor very much.

[sage sparrow]

he hits me with a beam in his heart phase. I have 75% resist and 2100 HP but i die in .1 second.

oh okay

well there's a dude with a beam that sucks

[wary turret]

Don't really know his rotation, got stomped on the last time I went in lol. Spent more time fighting Julra.

Though I assume beams like his and Lagons may shread? And from what I've noticed the higher the tier the more dangerous avoidable mechanics get.

[sage sparrow]

yeah

its irritating to learn the fight right now with that door bug going on

[wary turret]

Does it destroy you on T1 as well?

[sage sparrow]

feels like 25% chance the boss door actually opens then I get killed and have to try again but most of the time the boss door will not open and i just lose a key due to a bug so i'm waiting on that getting fixed.

no not at all

it tickles a bit is all

[wary turret]

Referencing the "learn the fight" bit, I think it's intended to learn the stuff in lower tiers since the "die once gtfo" system is a thing.

Ah, yeah adn the dungeon bugs affecting some people aren't the best lol. I've been lucky so far with those.

---

Lost acouple keys to temporal door tele not showing though. Though it seems not to happen if I wait for the visual wave to cross the screen upon going through the entrance.

Also seemed (no idea if there's actually any relationship) to correlate with just logging on. So if I do an echo before trying it, it felt like "everything had time to load"

Not related to what you said directly, but maybe helpful lol.

[sage sparrow]

okay i can test that. and that makes sense too. learn the fight in T1 before trying T2

[rancid verge]

Im a little confused about the "resistance penetration based on area level" thing

so if im doing level 75 stuff but I have "capped" resists at 75

i have 0?

nvm im reading an article

I guess thats baked into the scaling of the game

[valid sonnet]

sorry if this isn't the place to ask. Just got game today, tried it out for a bit. is this the max zoom out on the camera? its as far as the game would let me, but feels way too close. Trying to figure out if its bugging out or what.

screenshots i'm seeing posted show character much further away and more centered vs mine

[sage sparrow]

What resolution are you running the game in?

[valid sonnet]

1440p fullscreen

[sage sparrow]

okay that's what i'm in. let me get a screenshot....

yeah you are too zoomed in

does your scroll wheel move the camera at all?

[valid sonnet]

restarted game again, much better now

[sage sparrow]

oh sweet. that's awesome.

[valid sonnet]

yeah i was about to refund lol

that was unplayable

[sage sparrow]

Its a great game. yeah that would be unplayable.

if you have any questions I should be a round a bit tonight and can probably answer some.

[dry narwhal]

this is a fine channel to ask stuff in, i was just preoccupied >.>

glad you got the zoom figured out, that wasn't right lol

[mild geyser]

wow that seems farther zoomed out than I can go at max zoom out via wheel:

[valid sonnet]

i saw a bunch of stuff posted of people saying the camera was too zoomed in and i def agreed, but i thought no way what i had going on was a design decision lol

i think its cause my character is turned to the side

they look smaller

[dry narwhal]

that might be resolution diff

[mild geyser]

I'm at 1920x1200

[dry narwhal]

also yeah sentinel is beeg

[mild geyser]

ah ok

[sterile widget]

I see you found zoom challenge mode

[bitter delta]

I need a solid boss killer build other than fire Necro/cold dot werebear. Any suggestions?

[mild geyser]

is there any fast way to get more runes of removal?

[copper spruce]

you can focus farm runes on mono maybe ?

[mild geyser]

oik cool. thanks

[native sail]

Honestly no idea. I noticed it shows up when I move materials after 0.9g

[quartz blaze]

Endurance question: Say my current HP is 1000, my endurance threshold is 500 with 50% reduction, and an enemy hits me for 900 damage. Will it ignore my endurance be ignored entirely and i'll be left with 100 HP, or will the first 500 damage apply normally, then the remaining 400 damage will be affected by a 50% reduction (as its below threshold) and i'll instead take 700 damage and be left with 300 HP?

[valid sonnet]

any way to always have the compare window up when hovering over equipment?

[native sail]

What you are thinking of in your example is what happens. It applies to any damage that goes under your threshold, even if the hit happened while above threshold.

[quartz blaze]

so the damage would be 700, not 900, in the case i described yes?

[native sail]

Yup

[quartz blaze]

very nice, that make endurance seem crazy good

[native sail]

Obviously in game the math is far more complicated because of overlapping defenses but you've got the idea. And yeah. Endurance is one of the defenses that literally everything other than ward builds uses because you're basically throwing if you don't.

[quartz blaze]

Gotcha. My VK is 3600 HP, 70-75% all resists, 45% dmg reduction from armor, and extra 15% dmg reduction from titan's body armor. I guess getting my endurance % up would be the next logical step

[ionic kestrel]

guys does dragonflame edict only drop from empowered ?

[dry narwhal]

nope

[ionic kestrel]

ty

[open wind]

So, is it even worth going over 75% with resistances ? It would make gearing so much more easier if i could stop at 75 lol

[flint tapir]

generally 75 is enough

[open wind]

I feel like i am getting destroyed even though i am at 75 lol

[flint tapir]

more hp

I struggle with that aswell currently xD

although some monoliths/mobs can reduce your resistances temporarily or shred them

in those cases it could be useful to be over 75, but I think you end up wasting affixes on your items for those special cases

[open wind]

True. Ty. I will try it out

[flint tapir]

👌

[stiff stone]

Is there some sort of conditional I can add to my loot filter to show less worthless exotics?

like i dont really want to see this, but dont want to manually set settings for each item type in case something for another build/class drops

[flint tapir]

my personal guess would be minimum overall tier level of affixes?

[vapid tulip]

the last quest is the one to complete for me to unlock the 4th blessing, is that right?

[dry narwhal]

the forth blessing slot is just beating the boss in empowered

[marsh radish]

Can someone help me delete this category please

[dry narwhal]

take everything out of it

well, mine was connected to a different category

so i took everything out of the first category then delete hit the bugged one

[vapid tulip]

ok thanks!

[marsh radish]

mine is connected to category Idols

I took out everything but still can't delete them :C

[dry narwhal]

including the tabs?

[marsh radish]

i have only 1 tab in both

its says I need to empty them but they are already empty

[viral notch]

Anyone else getting extreme memory leaks when doing monoliths? I can do 1 -2 before it gets unplayable. Just wanted to ask before reporting. ❤️

[loud bridge]

Idk if it's related but theress times where ill load in and it either lags or desyncs like crazy and it feels like the server is taking a long time to catch up

[dry narwhal]

i mean remove those for now?

there's been mem leaks yeah but thats excessive

[viral notch]

@loud bridge right I'll report it as memory leaks because my ping stays the same yet it takes up to 5 mins to load after 2 monoliths, then game freezes and doesn't respond when trying to exit game. Anyway cheers

Is there a log file somewhere I should be looking for?

[river kernel]

Questions about Frontloaded in the Lightning Blast tree:
Does it have any effect on forks instead of chains and,
am I reading it correctly that only the bonus dmg from the frontloaded node itself is reduced on further chains?

[mild geyser]

so I am really loving my spin-to-win void knight/warpath. He's 72. Should I just keep grinding and leveling him indefinitely or is now a good time to pause and try the 2 other builds I was curious about (Shadow Daggers Bladedancer and either Fireball or Elemental Nova Sorc)

[sick yacht]

Reroll whenever you get bored tbh

[hollow crown]

or reroll when the build wont comply.

[velvet sphinx]

theres nothing stopping me from doing legendary creation on another char right?

just complete julra and bring the items, then i can put it in my stash to transfer?

[dry narwhal]

yeah go ahead

[stiff stone]

I've completed a monolith timeline but the quest did not complete, am I missing something?

[molten cape]

really random question, Vessel of memory shows up on 100corruption right?

[dim canopy]

If I cast Thorn Shield or Maelstrom or something similar on a minion, does the damage it deals scale with my or the minion's stats? Similarly, does it trigger on hit effects for me or for my minion when it hits an enemy?

[dim canopy]

Is it perhaps a monolith where you have different options and the quest is telling you to explore the remaining branches of the timeline?

[stiff stone]

I think it must be yeah

[dim canopy]

Then you must complete the monolith once more and pick the other choice to finish the quest.

[stiff stone]

hopefully i remember what i chose the first time =X

[last current]

Is there a limit to how many people can be in a party? If so, is that limit 3?
Edit: nvm worked out

[stiff stone]

i just dont get it, i completed the mono again and selected the only available option for the echo quests and the quest still didnt complete

[cyan dune]

is anyone experiencing fps drops when moving an item into the forge? The screen would freeze for a moment everytime

[vapid tulip]

after empowering my mono, corruption gets to 100, how to i get 200 for the 5th blessing to be unlocked?

[storm blaze]

you run the things that reset the echoweb enough times
can also kill the boss of that mono and then kill shade or orobus for extra corruption

[vapid tulip]

okay! thanks cake

[storm blaze]

👍 np

[inland minnow]

where can i farm for a siphon of anguish>?

[storm blaze]

You can get it from shade of orobyss in monoliths @inland minnow

And only from that thing

[inland minnow]

ah so its anywhere in the monolith, not a specific area, tyty

[storm blaze]

Only the nodes that reset the web

[inland minnow]

okok, ill go hit them up, thanks

[blissful owl]

Hello guys , i want to be sure if i understood correctly

I am following a build and for exemple in the echo black sun i need the CRIT buff , i need to re-enter the echo until i receive the buff ? they are changing ?

[native sail]

Not sure what you mean by chaining. You can't have multiple blessings from one timeline active, you just have to keep killing the boss till you get the one you want.

Ah changing not chaining lol

[blissful owl]

yes , sry autocorrect

[native sail]

Yeah, you can change them, just go commit deicide.

[blissful owl]

Thank you for your time !

[native sail]

Yeah no problem. I have about ten more minutes of time before I gotta get back to work, give or take :P

[thorn sigil]

how the fuck do you beat T3 lightless arbor

the last boss just kills me so fast

[native sail]

By dodging a lot and hitting hard.

Or alternatively, hitting so hard it doesn't get to hit you back

[thorn sigil]

i can dodge some but my skills have cd

i play lightning sorc

[native sail]

Left click and movement speed are legitimately more consistent for dodging than movement skills are

[vapid tulip]

may I ask, for legendary creation, it is fixed at level 50 item and below or is my temporal sanctum tier 1 hence, the unique item must be below level 50?

[thorn sigil]

even the mobs hits so hard

[native sail]

Unique must be a required level of 50 or lower yeah

[next cape]

what do flame wraiths scale off ? fire dmg or necrotic ?

[vapid tulip]

aw okay why do i see people forging siphon of anguish and all of those rings I got are at level 55?

[native sail]

They're at a higher tier of the dungeon.

[vapid tulip]

ah so i have to be at a higher tier of temporal sanctum uh?

[native sail]

Yup. Each tier allows you to use higher level uniques, with tier 4 having no limitation

[vapid tulip]

ahh I get it now. thanks alot.

[native sail]

IIRC its 50 and lower for T1, 65 or lower for T2, 75 for T3, and obviously 100 for T4

[inland minnow]

new question, where does this drop if anyone can tell 😄

[native sail]

Drops from Lagon in Ending The Storm

[marsh radish]

Does anyone know if you have this node on shield throw tree and you have 3 ricochets, how many times the shield will ricochet? 1 or 2?

[inland minnow]

tyty, is there any website i can see item drops

[dusty dust]

They attack with a spell that does fire damage but you can add necrotic via wraith skill tree, so kinda both

[native sail]

Lastepochtools.com or tunklabs
I prefer LETools for its database layout

[inland minnow]

dopee, thank uu

[native sail]

No prob. Now I gotta skedaddle and get back to counting shit on shelves.

[languid orchid]

When can i specialise with my class?

[vapid tulip]

1 more question, so after finishing tier 1, my next attempt on temporal sanctum will be tier 2. when does it ever get reset, or it doesn't. I remember doing temporal sanctum once yesterday and today it gets back to tier 1.

[prime badger]

I've been trying to get Grand Embers of immortality from the spirits of fire but after 8 tries nothing. Is it possible it's out of the game? I see the lower level one but it doesn't show up on anything after I've unlocked everything

[acoustic thicket]

I'm trying to farm marina's lost soul which is a unique, the timeline I am supposed to find it in only says it has "rare" - Am I missing something?

[dry narwhal]

you look for unique/set wand nodes in [empowered] stolen lance

[acoustic thicket]

What is empowered?

[next cape]

the bottom node is only like +12 damage, this necrotic damage doesnt get converted to fire when they cast a spell ?

[dry narwhal]

you complete the 3 level 90 timelines and then you can unlock empowered which are all level 100

[vapid tulip]

when u complete all 3 level 90 mono, the middle island allows you to empower these mono to run again

[acoustic thicket]

Oh ok! so I have to do all the others first

[dry narwhal]

and a bit harder due to being 100 corruption by default

[vast barn]

Hello
Does the 3-set bonus of the Forgotten Knight set,(3) Set: 2% Void Damage per stack of Time Rot, count as **More **or **Increased **damage?
The difference would be turning 1000% void damage into either 1240% or 1024%, if I'm not mistaken

[dry narwhal]

not all the other

[acoustic thicket]

Just to 90

Thank you

[dry narwhal]

most people go up the right side cause the blessings there are much better

[dusty dust]

usually when there is damage conversion it is specified explicitly, so I'd say they would do both fire and necrotic. According to https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/flame_wraith base fireball dmg is 25 so scaling fire will probably be better

[prime badger]

Anyone know how to get Grand Embers of Immortality from the Spirits of Fire timeline? I'm having zero luck at 220 corruption

[dry narwhal]

keep on runnin

[hollow jetty]

how does +spell damage from weapon work? say my spell is lightning with base 50 lightning damage. Does the spell damage add the base lightning or just the base but not lightning?

[dusty dust]

if your spell is all lightning added one will be lightning

if mixed it'll be proportionally to how it is in your spell

[hollow jetty]

ah ok. thanks.

[cerulean siren]

Where do we mostly spend gold in end game?

[native sail]

It doesn't reset, you choose the tier you want to do when you put a key in. They are per character though.

[vast barn]

in the soulfire bastion and lightless arbor dungeons. also, buying stash tabs

[vapid tulip]

oh ok tyty

[native sail]

You do have to complete the previous tier to unlock the next.

Anyway. You'll see me again roughly 2.5 hours.

[tender valve]

what blessing do i pick first?
my options are

• 11% unique drop rate
• 31% gold drop rate
• 36% huge idol drop rate

[hollow oriole]

Does echos go on forever in monoliths. Like the first monolith, if I just to go in as straight a line as I can going one direction. Will I eventually run out. I assume yes

[vast barn]

I'd always go for Gold

unless you're hunting for a specific type of idol

[tender valve]

what do you use gold for in endgame?

[mint forge]

Hi yall! A quick question, how do I increase physical resistance? Im playing a Primalist - Shaman mastery, so with totems all other resistances are quite alright-ish, but im getting stomped by Physical damage:

[mint forge]

what would be the best way to prevent taking so much physical dmg? is it just armor stacking?

[vast barn]

Can be added to pretty much all gear slots

[bitter hamlet]

Hi is there anyway I can reset my passive all at once?

[vast barn]

We've been asking that since 2020 😦 Sadly, still no

[hollow jetty]

how does spell life leech work with something like spirit plague that deals damage over time? does it make a diff if i convert it to poison?

[twilit spade]

does anyone know If the Soul Bastion dungeon bug has been resolved? on boss entrance floor you can't proceed to boss room?

[unkempt tree]

After my bug in the temporal sanctum yesterday today it's the soulfire bastion impossible to enter a door to go do the boss, is there a place where we can report this on the discord??

I try to do the temporal sanctum (I dropped a key) and always the same
I can't go into the instance and go down the steps on the left

[cyan rapids]

can i use rune of creation on an item with 0 LP?

Forging potential***

[hollow jetty]

how does spell life leech work with something like spirit plague/wandering spirit that deals damage over time? does it make a diff if i convert it to poison?

[ancient field]

Does it profit from the Tornado skill tree?

[cerulean siren]

What does "your minion cannot be crit" ?

Does it mean my minions won't crit or they won't get hit by crits?

[ancient field]

As it states. "be". They cannot "be" crit

[mint forge]

thanks man!

[proven kite]

Hi folks I just had a question, Does the werebear passive territorial "the maul aoe radius" affect the entangling roots aoe radius? Playing Dr3ad's cold dot werebear.
It's hard to test due to de-leveling.

[dusty dust]

any crits on them will be transformed into normal attacks, same as crit avoid 100%

[mossy kite]

Are there any autobomber builds that can do high-ish corruption? My play time lately is very interrupted (new baby) and a lot of the time I only have 1 hand free, I've assigned potions to my mouse button, and I have 1 more button on my mouse I could use for recasting stuff if needed

[sudden citrus]

recently play a acolyte for 5 hrs !! level 22 and loving it! i love every skill has a sub skill tree that is not that generic and hard like POE. keep it up!. and i do hope to see alot of different skin in golems if you are focus on flame golem over all an amazing game. amazing class.

[zinc anchor]

I play acolyte too and love it! LE is perfect balance between too simple (Diablo) and too complicated (PoE)

[trim stone]

is it frowned upon to ask for save files? i hate running the story :"(

[frigid shadow]

i have question about ward.

example. i have 300 HP and 50 ward at the time.
sudently i recive 100 dmg.
does it goes :

1. wards gone and my HP is 250
   or
2. ward is gone and my HP still 300 because no matter how much dmg i take, ward gonna take it and dmg not transfer into HP

[west copper]

How long does it take to get to end game in this game? i'm eyeballing 3 builds already that im trying to work on

[wraith crescent]

ward is just volatile health. damage goes first to ward and anything left goes to hp

that says, you can get oneshot with 2k ward and 1.2k hp if the damage is that high

[frigid shadow]

ah i see

thanks for the advice

❤️

[wraith crescent]

iirc you can start monoliths the moment you reach end of time

you will probably struggle, since you are about lv 20-30 for a lvl 58 region, but hey, nobody is telling you what to do.

and once you know the story, where to go, how the maps typically are layout, you can predict paths and go even faster through the story.

[west copper]

fair enough :p roughly speakinghow long does it take an average player to hit level 58?

[wraith crescent]

idk about averages, my first char was 10 hours to reach end of time (which was the end of the story when I started LE),
my second char was, I think 20 hours, since I really was eager to find alll dead ends in all maps before finding the exit.
my latest char was... faster. but I used movement spells.

[west copper]

aight, thank you :>

[wraith crescent]

but keep in mynd, I am a chilled player, even when I say "faster"

so I guess I am probably below average

[foggy totem]

Is there a setting, either in game or in OS, which allows for pressing key to override the one already pressed, e.g. my left/right mouse button is pressed for auto-attacks or Rive or whatever, and I press a keyboard button for a skill which I want to be cast, override auto-attack and still continue with auto-attacks without releasing the mouse click. Hope it was clear.

[wraith crescent]

sounds like a macro. no idea what the publishers take on macros are in this game

[twilit spade]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports/23 here it is. you can report bugs here. I have same problem as yours

[cobalt pumice]

if i use rune of ascendance on a Stone Tablet will it become this or its totally random relic outcome?

[devout olive]

Does anyone know if it's safe to create new offline characters yet? The last two patches new characters were overwriting old characters

[dry narwhal]

thats a boss drop

but also in general no, item type matters, base does not

[cobalt pumice]

boss drops cannot be obtained via rune of ascendance?

[dry narwhal]

cannot

[wary turret]

Correct.

[cobalt pumice]

ok thanks

[wary turret]

cries in t4 Julra

[unkempt tree]

done ..

[dry narwhal]

what's t4s drop

im havin a forget

[wary turret]

vessel of strife

[dry narwhal]

RIGHT

always forget that exists

[wary turret]

Took me 30 kills lol

Hoping the next one takes less xD

[dry narwhal]

lol...

[native sail]

That stupidly strong cup

[dry narwhal]

true and real

[stuck karma]

So been playing a BD Rogue. Just unlocked empowered monoliths. Kinda looking for any hints on what to do next. I have 0 idea what items are out there so dont know what to grind and i followed MaxRolls levelling guide but now I dunno what I want or need so feeling abit bleh

[dry narwhal]

They have an endgame version of that build on there too!

Very fun build

There's definitely items there that'll take awhile to farm up ^^

[pure fossil]

I have exactly the same issue. Ryzen 7 5800H with rtx 3060. Used to get constant 100+ fps on ultra. Now even on low I have this silly down spikes with fps and gpu usage jump to 100%.
Nothing works - limiting fps to 60, exclusive full screen etc.

I came back after a year with 0.9 patch and it's unplayable.

[lyric flume]

Noob questions:

• is it useful to collect regular and magic items (white and purple items)?
• can you salvage those for materials?
• if so, how?

@dry narwhal nice avatar 😊

[dry narwhal]

[stuck karma]

is it this one https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/dancing-strikes-bladedancer-guide or the other one they have

[faint cape]

You can salvage magic, rare, and exalted items for materials using rune of shattering or rune of removal in the forge (F)

[dry narwhal]

I use the shadow daggers one^^

[faint cape]

Materials being shards of the affixes on that item

[dry narwhal]

Youb dont wanna spam runes of shattering though, gets very expensive quickly

[faint cape]

Yeah, I'd only shatter/remove affixes that you really want to craft - or just rare ones like +levels and penetration

[lyric flume]

Is it useful though? Or should you just shatter rares and up?

[stuck karma]

Buy runes of shattering whenever you see em in the shop

[lyric flume]

Does the price go up everytime you buy them?

[stuck karma]

2k every time

[lyric flume]

Ah for every rune

[dry narwhal]

Yeah always 2k and they're farmable but there's better uses for gold lol

[faint cape]

Shattering/removing magic items can be very useful. Really, magic items are better for removals since those hit one random affix (and magic items have 1 or 2 only, gives you better odds)

[lyric flume]

Alright! I just started, so I’ll see what happens.

[stuck karma]

just dunegon right?

[lyric flume]

Alrighty, thanks! Clear.

[dry narwhal]

My stash tabs

[stuck karma]

thats fair

[frigid shadow]

wait, we dont have mana on hit items or affix ?

or i miss them

[faint cape]

just keep in mind, you'll never get more shards than the item has tiers, so don't salvage unless the mod(s) you want have a few tiers. I salvage only rare T4 affixes or higher unless I'm looking for an affix I actively want to craft onto my gear for my current build

[native sail]

Nope. That's intentional. Each class has a few ways to manage mana and they want you to use them because they see mana as a resource and not a problem to be solved like in PoE.

[lyric flume]

Okay. How can you see what tier it is?

Ctrl or alt?

[faint cape]

Ctrl+Alt I think

[frigid shadow]

oh nice

[dry narwhal]

Both at once nepharos

[lyric flume]

That was my next guess haha

Thanks!

@faint cape also thanks!

[faint cape]

ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ

[sharp zinc]

is this normal? happened a second time

what to do now?

its stuck like this

[lyric flume]

That’s some serious fog of war O.o

[copper spruce]

its HC mode

[sharp zinc]

is there a way to fix this?

it happened twice already in arena

[stuck karma]

yeah tis a bug. Only way out is relog in i believe

Had it today aswell

[rigid copper]

Does it mean you go from 5 % base critical damage to 10 %?

[cold plaza]

Assuming you have no other source of flat or increase, yes

[rigid copper]

It is hard to increase the critical chance on the abomination. So I see this node as not exploitable

I ignored that decaying minions could regen

[cedar oracle]

does this game have ultra wide support

[wary turret]

Anyone know if "core of the mountain" drop from Stone Titan is guaranteed 1 LP like Julra?

[icy tinsel]

If a passive improves something ON RECENT SPELLCAST, how does that interact with channeled spells like Warpath? Does it mean when I start the Warpath channel, or am I considered always recently casting?

[storm blaze]

Well, warpath isn't a spell

[icy tinsel]

oops

🤦

[storm blaze]

But on things that are actual spells it would just consider the initial start of the channel

[icy tinsel]

ty

I assumed everything was a spell but now I see the scaling tag "Spell"

[storm blaze]

Yeah, not everything is a spell.
It's a good thing to keep in mind for certain uniques and stuff

[foggy totem]

@cedar locust Thanks in advance, you kind person 🙂

[cedar locust]

Official stance on auto-casting is this - 'This is not an intended feature, but we view its use as reflecting a problem in skill design, rather than a problem with the player using it. We aim to rework these skills so that their active portion rewards more situational and reactive usage. In the meantime we will not punish players who choose to auto-cast these skills.'

So while I don't know the specifics on how to set up auto-casting, it won't be held against you 😊

(You can google it)

[foggy totem]

@cedar locust I believe you can guess from the way of how I formulated it I had no idea it's a thing, nor that it has a name... in my mind, it was as simple as: the game should allow me for two buttons to be pressed at the same time, e.g. allow to cast one skill over another. Sort of very simple.

From this, I guess it's not as simple and it's a thing or something. Guess I will google it, thanks.

[candid elm]

I believe the game already does this? I was playing a Void Knight "bomber" and would just hold down the keys for Devouring Orbs and Anomaly while running around. It would just cast them as they came off cooldown

The stuff that Averielle was referring to was the auto casting with NumLock. It was discussed during a live stream

[stuck karma]

there are many abilities that are procced by other abilities

but for skills that dont cant you just press the two buttons at the same time yourself? of course if they have animations you cant sue both at the same time cause you have to use one then the other

[candid elm]

If they have cooldowns, you can definitely just hold the two buttons and they'll be used as they come off cooldown

I haven't tried it for skills without cooldowns

[stuck karma]

just tried myself. Not every skill auto uses after cd. Rogue's decoy didnt for me at least but Shift and Smoke bomb did

[sick yacht]

I believe skills with cast times cant be numlocked, but I could be wrong there. not home to check

[candid elm]

I do like their take on it though, that if people want to NumLock a skill that it's a design issue and needs to be adjusted

[fathom glacier]

Concerning the temporal sanctum, can you run T4 first time you enter or do you have to start with T1 and unlock each tier consecutively?

[sick yacht]

the second way

[stuck karma]

gotta unlock them all

[fathom glacier]

Oh damn okay, I’ve been hoarding my keys until I leveled up thinking I was going to run T4 first run. Thanks mate

[patent mural]

hey guys

how can I add HP as the 5th affix to this ?

[minor vigil]

you would need to use a glyph of despair on one of the resistances

[patent mural]

I see

thanks for the quick reply sir

do i risk anything ?

[minor vigil]

higher tier affixes are harder to seal with a glyph of despair but those are low tier so you sohuld be fine

you're just risking your glyph bc they're rare

[cinder hamlet]

devs ever talked about monster density?

[patent mural]

hmm

ok

[pastel pebble]

Ye, AFAIK they'll be increasing it

[patent mural]

@minor vigil its my first time sealing an item, do i get to pick what i get to seal ?

and if yes, does it matter which resistance i seal?

[cinder hamlet]

music to my ears. ty

[minor vigil]

yes you seal as part of upgrading an affix

if one of the resistances is a lower tier than the other (idr the rolls) then do that one

[patent mural]

gocha

one of them is t1

so ill seal that one

thanks a lot bro

[midnight grotto]

do spells that only inflict a dot (ex. Spirit Plague) count as a hit for purposes of chance to apply X on hit?

[storm blaze]

No

[subtle cypress]

Can you craft on exalted items before you forge into a Leggo?

[patent mural]

legendary is the way to go im assuming yea?

[subtle cypress]

Yea

[patent mural]

ok ❤️

t ty

[candid elm]

Yes. The main requirement is that the Exalted item has exactly 4 unsealed affixes.

If it has a sealed one, that's fine, but it won't be used. Must have 4 unsealed affixes, though.

Oh and it be the same base type. Shield to Shield, Boots to Boots, etc.

[subtle cypress]

Yea I knew that but like say it rolls, a T6 and 3 t1s, I can change up the t1s and still use? Even if it has 0 cp left?

[mossy scarab]

If catowl wants to be a scrub and play a strong meta build that half the others players play... What would be the recommendation? Anyone got any advice?

[candid elm]

Yes, the Forging Potential doesn't matter

But if you use like a Rune of Removal, you need to add back an affix

[languid wind]

Does "physical penetration" from amulet apply to bleeds too?

[mossy scarab]

Catowl believes so. Though shredding armor does not

[ivory zenith]

so if i'm in a level 100 area with 75% physical resistance, I actually have 0% resistance?

[candid elm]

Yeah Armor doesn't do anything for damage over time

[candid elm]

Yes. You could instead think of it as the enemies have no bonus physical damage against you.

Enemies get +1% resistance penetration per area level, up to 75. It's not as punishing as in something like PoE though, if you're a little short on a resistance.

[languid wind]

Yes, the difference between 0% resistances and 75% resistances in level 75 zone is just +75% damage taken

In PoE that would be +300% damage taken

[ivory zenith]

so right now I have 75% physical resistance running level 100 areas. I might as well not bother with it right?

[cinder hamlet]

And in D3 39000%

[languid wind]

Not bother with getting more than 75% physical resistance? 99% correct

[candid elm]

Not sure what you mean by not bother with it. It's good idea try and get near the resistance caps. Sounds like you've done that

[languid wind]

Getting the 75% is pretty good though, or nearly 75%

[ivory zenith]

oh right

I forgot it says enemies penetrate 75% more

not ignore

so having 0% is a terible idea

lol

[languid wind]

Yuup

I mean it's not too bad but it's pretty bad especially if we're not talking poison res lol

[candid elm]

You can check out builds on LE Tools and Maxroll, if you'd to see some builds.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides

[ivory zenith]

I wanted to use Suloron's Step so I wanted to double check.

it wasn't important anyway

[sleek sluice]

Is there stablity cap, or can i keep going and do the bosses one after another instead?

[indigo kelp]

lil question what is good dps class and what do deal big damage in what class?

i kinda want to go necromancer but unsure

[candid elm]

Yeah it caps at something like 1600

[sleek sluice]

Fair, ill just kill him then 😄

[candid elm]

Anything extra will carry over. Like if the boss is at 800 and you're at 900, you'll be at 100 after boss

[sleek sluice]

thanks, knew that part, wasnt sure if there was cap just, i cant reset this timeline until i am fully done witha lot of stuff ( found red + blue) on the timeline i needed xD

[bleak coral]

Is there a guide on how Corruption works?

[sleek sluice]

ill end up with 10+ gaze by the time i am done

but killing the boss while having 200% + dmg modifier, is just a bad idea sometimes 😛

so wanted to waste less ttime

[candid elm]

Every 2 points of Corruption gives you +1% of increased: item rarity, experience, enemy health, and enemy damage.

Empowered is base 100 Corruption, so a base of +50% of all of those.

[runic zephyr]

can i combine a unique staff with a 2 handed sword or something like that

[bleak coral]

There's more to it than that I was told, that having corruption makes it easier to build in other zones, was wondering how that works.

[candid elm]

No. Legendaries require same base type

[candid elm]

There's a "catch up" mechanic when you kill Orobyss near the edges. You'll see a bonus corruption listed, which is based on the highest Corruption you have on any monolith.

So if you get high corruption in one, it'll be faster to raise it in others.

[bleak coral]

ooooooooh okay

Thanks for the info

[candid elm]

You're welcome, if you wanted more details, Perry made a video about it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7Idl0vsJ0

[vernal seal]

I don't suppose there are any good Spriggan form builds?

[cobalt pumice]

long ago there was a trick to get the drop you wanted from the boss in monoliths, something like die when u kill the boss and the drop is not what you want then you get to kill it again since you died?

i suppose this cannot be done anymore?

[main wyvern]

how can i add a video if im reporting a bug on website?

[faint cape]

Definitely a few of them. I don't know what build guides are available

[candid elm]

I'm not familiar with one. You can look here https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/filter/skill=spriggan_form&mastery=druid

But note that builds sometimes take Spriggan for buffs to things that are being cast by other skills and you don't actually go into Spriggan Form. Like the Cold DoT Werebear does that.

[candid elm]

I believe you upload the video somewhere and link to it

[faint cape]

There's also the meme spriggan form build, bleed bees

[bleak coral]

When an echo rewards with a unique/set drop, that reward depends on the zone the echo is in, correct?

[sick yacht]

zone level only, not the name of the zone

[remote birch]

The little green circle around Blessings, is that showing how well they rolled? Or just visual

[sick yacht]

how well it rolled

[candid elm]

Yes, it's showing what roll you got on the range

[remote birch]

Ah alright, sweet. Thanks

[candid elm]

If you mouse over them you can see the range

Maybe hold Alt?

[remote birch]

Yea I needed to do Ctrl+Alt to see it. 48%/50% max, not bad

[candid elm]

Note that the Blessings in Empowered/Legendary monoliths have a higher value range

[bleak coral]

So to be more clear, if my echo reward in the Black Sun zone is a unique/set then it won't exclusively drop something unique to Black Sun?

[faint cape]

There's nothing unique to any timeline that isn't a boss-only drop

[candid elm]

Correct

[sick yacht]

the only things "unique to the black sun" are off the boss

[bleak coral]

That's not what Epoch Tools is telling me

[sick yacht]

incorrect. it's telling you what timeline has the echoes that can spawn the item type you want

[faint cape]

Only the target farming echoes that you find are exclusive to specific timelines, not any items

those are the "unique or set X" reward echoes

[candid elm]

The "target farm" thing is just letting you know that you can get extra drop chances by doing those special echoes

But being a global drop, you can get it from anywhere

Now if it says it drops from the Boss, then you need to do that Boss

[bleak coral]

Right that's what I've been trying to get at here, so each timeline has its own higher chances for specific uniques/sets but they can generally drop anywhere?

[sick yacht]

no, only the echos that specifically call out the rewards at the end have a chance to drop them

[candid elm]

No. Each timeline has special echo reward nodes that you can find as you explore the echo web

They just give a random global drop unique or set item of that type.

[candid elm]

It's this listed at the bottom. Showing that this particular monolith/timeline can have Unique/Set Body Armor node rewards. You've still got to find the echoes with that reward and run them.

[bleak coral]

I've never seen this before, we're talkng about two entirely different things

[dusky mulch]

What stat would I want for legendary ?

[sick yacht]

the thing you're talking about literally doesnt exist tho

[candid elm]

You see it when you've unlocked Empowered monoliths.

What item are you looking for?

[dusky mulch]

was thinking
prefix: Fire damage and crit multi
suffix: health and endurance

[sick yacht]

crit multi doesnt help if you're scaling ignite

[bleak coral]

alright let me try this another way

[sick yacht]

what item are you trying to get.

[dusky mulch]

i'm not playing ignite but crit dragonsong with it 😄

[bleak coral]

When I'm doing Fall of the Outcasts echoes, I get a lot of Decayed Skull drops, but in in echoes I've probably only seen one drop.

[sick yacht]

that's just RNG

[bleak coral]

Alright

[blissful moat]

Does it cost one rune of shattering per equipment shattered?

[sick yacht]

yeah

literally the only drop chance increases for specific kinds of items are the echoes sweetgoat talked about above

corruption is a global more drops

so if you're farming a unique you go to the timeline that gets echoes that drop that unique. it's still a global drop.

[blissful moat]

So do the Runes of Shattering drop more later? They feel semi-rare now where I am atlike level 55

[sick yacht]

yes, also vendors sell them

i would recommend runes of removal for rare affixes like + lvl of skills and hybrid health

shattering is a roll, removal just gives you the tier of affix as shards

[median rain]

I might be overlooking something but are Void Knights void rifts broke? I cant see them anywhere?

[blissful moat]

Gotcha, okay

[sick yacht]

they are a very small purple circle

[rapid pebble]

hi guys i have a question about the stash ... so when I close the stash while on Tab 1, when I open it again, it opens on Tab 2 in some random ass folder

whats the logic behind how stash behaves? is there a way to make it open on the tab I closed it on?

[sick yacht]

not that i know of

[rapid pebble]

it so annoying

[sick yacht]

#suggestions-and-like-to-see

[median rain]

ah okay. So they might actually be there, just not very visible... sad times

[sick yacht]

I have 3 void knights and they appear on all of those builds

[next mango]

ok so static skill from the mage. i tried to understand this for a while now: what does unstable when i took unlimited power?

does it add zap hits or does it add lighnting blasts?

[sick yacht]

hits unless you spec into the lightning blast node

[next mango]

yeah swatimsayin i have unlimited power

what does it do then?

bc i definatly dont see that much bore blasts

[sick yacht]

it casts lightning bolt when you have more than 80 static charges

do you have static on your bar?

[next mango]

no im way more advanced than u think now

i know what it does

generally

but if u take unlimited power the zaps become blasts

[sick yacht]

correct

but you didnt "cast" it

[next mango]

my question is if u have done that. what does the node do that gives more zap hits

[sick yacht]

you cast more LBs

[next mango]

no

[remote birch]

From how I read/understand it, instead of doing "zap" on nearby enemies when above 80 charges, it'll do Lightning Blasts

[next mango]

this is correct now the other node

[remote birch]

And more zaps = More LBs

[next mango]

its definately not what im seeing

[sick yacht]

then

!bug

[ripe brook]

Please post bug reports on our forum: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports. Thank you. :smile:

[remote birch]

Hm, that's how I'd have understood it. But maybe it's intentional, since it might be too powerful otherwise? Idk

[next mango]

ok so its shuld cat 4 lightning blasts a tick with this node is what ur saying?

thats a bit op no?

[sick yacht]

if you have it specced for all 4 points it's 4 LBS that get none of the mods from "casting" it, yes

[remote birch]

That's how I'd originally have understood it, but I do see how that'd be extremely powerful so maybe it's just that the Zap stuff doesn't matter and now it only does LBs

A bit like with the Tornado nodes giving you more chance to double cast, but then the next node that attaches it to you removes the double cast chance

[exotic vortex]

i need to farm an apathy's maw as a lv 89. Should i pump corruption in normal monos or struggle through empowered? which do you think would be faster?

[brave ibex]

It's not worth farming anything corruption related in normal monos. And you shouldn't struggle much with baseline empowered at level 89

[next mango]

well idk it definately doesnt cast additional LBs that i can tell you. but that also would be kinda hard to sustain ngl

[exotic vortex]

@brave ibex im capped on res and crit avoidance but still die a lot. only 1.8k hp

[candid elm]

if you can handle empowered, you're going to get more drop chances

[brave ibex]

Well, build more health 😄 But, Apathy's Maw needs min 50 corruption to drop anyway, so you might as well just go to empowered at 100

[runic zephyr]

how do i boost another player? i tried to share the 3 monolith wps, but he could not use them

[sick yacht]

inv them to an areas 10 levels or more over them and keep them within 2 screens of you

[inland minnow]

so im running an autobomber build, but im getting killed a lot cuz i constantly lose mana when I get hit, anyone know what could cause this

[next mango]

yeah it definately just casts additonal zaps so its not recmmended bc it static charge starves you so u get less lighnting blasts

has more alpha but its not worth it

[sick yacht]

it shouldnt work like that though

should report it

[next mango]

sry but that sounds incredibly op

6 LBs a second?

[sick yacht]

that's less than you can get literally just speccing into LB

[next mango]

plus 3 from surge?

[next mango]

?_?

what?

how?

[sick yacht]

cast speed and speccing into the quad cast node

[next mango]

to be sure i am speccing into LB lol

[runic zephyr]

i mean more liek skipping regularmonoliths

[next mango]

u have a 24% chance of double and then again a 25% chance to quadruple man

double roll 24% and then if 25% are quadruple

[sick yacht]

with cast speed you can overlap it a LOT and cast many LBs in less than a second. it's one of the best ST skills in the game for a reason

[candid elm]

yeah lightning blast is great single target damage, you often see it paired with another skill like static orb for clear and lightning blast used for bosses

[sick yacht]

kill the lvl 90 mono bosses with them

[next mango]

how many LB casts a second can u get if u stack cast speed?

[sick yacht]

faster than i can count

[next mango]

ok to be fair idk how fast cast speed can get

[sick yacht]

there is a decent amount in your passive tree

[next mango]

im a spellblade yk

[sick yacht]

there is still some, but less than sorc

[next mango]

well i dont cast thats the thing

[sick yacht]

then probably dont run LB

[next mango]

well i proc LB a lot

[sick yacht]

i stand by my statement 😛

if you're running it for clear, spark charges to the same thing but better and you can scale them easier

[next mango]

ok bc u have tried lightning spellblade and its lame orr?

[sick yacht]

i have 2

[runic zephyr]

ah okay thanks, so i open up the fight and he joins, while fighting

[sick yacht]

that works

[next mango]

LB buffs me a ton with lightning aegis and closed circuit

[sick yacht]

can get lightning aegis on hit

[next mango]

25% DR and closed stacks to at least 5 is nothing to sneeze at

[sick yacht]

ngl i dont remember what closed circuit does

[next mango]

stacks at least to 4

[sick yacht]

oh yeah. that's the infinite cast speed scaling node

i ran a build to 1100 corruption on sorc with that

in 8.5

[carmine apex]

hello how to reset modifier after beating the boss monolith?

[next mango]

so it stacks infinetly?

[sick yacht]

with cast speed

[next mango]

yeah i know that stacks still fall off but it does not have an intrinsic stack limit then? wow

[sick yacht]

correct

[next mango]

ok lol one more reason to erhm report "the bug" then lol

[sick yacht]

it literally is a bug

it should work the way you said

[next mango]

yeah but i dont think there is a way to generate that many static charges to be frank but still

wuld be dope lol ngl

[sick yacht]

isnt it "while you're above"?

so you could just chill above 80 stacks

[next mango]

yeah but it deducts the spark base cost plus the mana cost of LB

nah it deducts its like a second mana pool

[acoustic thicket]

Okay, this is by no means throwing shade at the game. I believe that this game is also amazing, but I wanted to know the reasoning behind Last Epoch having low viewership on Twitch.

[next mango]

i got most nodes tha generate spark charges plus the 200 cap its still gone quick

[sick yacht]

base cost is 15 tho

+3 for LB

[next mango]

my lb costs 9 atm

[sick yacht]

you took nodes to do that

[next mango]

no 12

yeah dditional chains

which is a must basically

[sick yacht]

not really

LB has a lot of really good nodes

[next mango]

i dont cast it directly so the only multiplier is more chains via chain lighning

it wont clear neither

[sick yacht]

frontloaded and shattershock are 2 more multis without having to cast

[next mango]

yeah i got these but front loaded is less dmg per node at least aoe than chain lighning

plus i cant buff myself without chain

[sick yacht]

again, it's a ST skill

[next mango]

ST?

[sick yacht]

single target

it's not good to scale as an add clear

[next mango]

i dont see that right now but maybe i will in higher corruption

culd always take convergence

for ST

[sick yacht]

yeah, that's meta

[next mango]

yeah that was basically my oh shit button lol. if i cant gibb with chains ill switch to convergence

[crude jewel]

viewership says nothing about a game, also twitch is literally a bubble 90% of ppl on the world that use internet dont even know the siteor even more, and lastly; last epoch had before the multiplayer big patch only 2k concurrent playerbase, look at steamstats, also its still in development... so thats the reason why :)

[next mango]

ill report "the bug" ... thx for the convo mate

[sick yacht]

❤️

[candid elm]

you can do nodes that don't give a modifier to lower it

but there is not a "reset all echo modifiers" thing

[quiet vault]

Is it normal for regular monolith to be fairly easy? I’m lvl 78 or so doing the last areas (lvl 90s). At what point are empowered made available? Also is there a general idea for how I should progress corruption?

Some of these echoes I feel like take 2 minutes to just rush

[sick yacht]

you should progress to emp tbh normals are a waste of time

[quiet vault]

How do I do that

[dusty dust]

finish last 3 monos and go to the island in the middle

[sick yacht]

clear the 3 lvlv 90 monos then click the blue rock in the middle of them

[quiet vault]

Just clear the timelines in end time?

Ok

Yea I’m nearly there.

Sounds good, thought I was missing something

[sick yacht]

THEN push corruptoin

[quiet vault]

Thank you

[sick yacht]

❤️

[hasty remnant]

So I had a bit of a long stretch on LE last night, finally digging my heels into the game. Went from like level 12 - 31 or whatever.

[sick yacht]

nice

[hasty remnant]

Only to log in today to see that my character is sitting at level 12?

.-.

[sick yacht]

sadge

[hasty remnant]

Is this a known issue?

It's even an offline character.

[sick yacht]

yeah, mostly for euro servers

[green cradle]

if you skill cryomancers, can u get the frost effects for death knights?

[sick yacht]

they apply in a set order, so i'm not 100% sure. generally 1 overrides the other

[hasty remnant]

Well, fuck. I guess I'll start over?

-_-

[next mango]

a last question do spark charges hit the enemy that is afflicted or only the others like the wording may suggest?

[raw fern]

If you encountered rollback report it: #1088489316407328879 message

[sick yacht]

spark charges are an AoE

they hit the target too

[next mango]

ok cool then the wording is a bit misleading

thx

[sick yacht]

np

[inland minnow]

how do i target Lagon with smite, i legit cannot

[sick yacht]

aim for his ass near his HP bar

[hasty remnant]

Thank you, reported.

[raw fern]

Are you on 0.9g2 version ?

[soft oar]

Hey, curious if EHG have mentioned anything about dungeon issues - namely the fact that the door to the boss room doesn't open

[raw fern]

From the latest patch notes: "Players sometimes being unable to enter dungeons (this doesn’t affect everyone evenly which makes it harder to track down)"

If you have this issue report it to help fix it #555817861529075713

[soft oar]

awesome thanks - will do

[hasty remnant]

It appears so.

[raw fern]

ok, because there was bug in 0.9g so i wanted to double check your game version

[hasty remnant]

Double double checking now

[river kernel]

Questions about Frontloaded in the Lightning Blast tree:
Does it have any effect on forks instead of chains and,
am I reading it correctly that only the bonus dmg from the frontloaded node itself is reduced on further chains?

[sick yacht]

correct on the 3rd part. i think it affects forks and chains equally

2nd?

[river kernel]

with it forking instead of chaining all the time for me, i wonder if the negative of frontloaded is even involved? like is there a primary fork or are they all getting full bonus right off

[sick yacht]

100% specualtion i would say the first for gets reduced like the first chain then the second set of forks like the second chain

i dont take that node, because it's normally a ST spell

but off the wording, that's how i'd interpret it

[inland minnow]

okay why do I not get loot from a boss, if i die, but my friend kills it >?

[sick yacht]

because you died

[inland minnow]

so it just wastes my stability

nice

[sick yacht]

try to not die

[inland minnow]

ive tried multiple times now, but lagon fucks me up

[sick yacht]

lagon is one of the bosses with 100% avoidable daamge

[inland minnow]

yes, i avoid almost all of it but he one shots me with almost everything

so if i just do 1 mistake i die

[sick yacht]

build better defensives

[dense root]

you're supposed to dodge all the heavily telegraphed attacks

like the eye beam or the moon circle

if the smaller attacks are one shotting you then your character is too weak

[inland minnow]

im trying to do lagon to get an item to roll a tankier build but this is sadge

[earnest widget]

you should be able to just respawn and come back to the boss fight.

[sick yacht]

you do, but you dont get good loot

because dying should have consequences

[next mango]

your friends can gift u their drops

[inland minnow]

i dont mind not getting loot if it doesnt suck my whole ass stability

[sick yacht]

dont die. if your friend is doing all the damage just run around and dont die

[next mango]

your friends caan give u items that dropped for them after the fight

but yeah especially the waves can be hard to dodge and if u are glass theyll kill u

[inland minnow]

so losing all the stability is indeed intended, oke, ill just solo everything, at least dying solo doesn't make me have to go back at start

[sick yacht]

OR... just dont die

[next mango]

yeah u kinda need to dodge all the obvious lazors rly

no way around it

in this game that is generally the case btw

[inland minnow]

I mean i try not to die, but i guess playing alone will be better to get good so I get more chances to fight this whale

[sick yacht]

sure

[next mango]

u got an oshit button like a traversal that makes immune while ur at it?

[inland minnow]

no, my build is paper

[next mango]

kinda helps ngl

[inland minnow]

ill just start my bear and see if it works without hte lagon item

[earnest widget]

Lagon is pretty easy when you learn the mechanics. Just stay on one side all the time so its easier to dodge towards middle and the other side.

[next mango]

well then ur asking for it to be frank lol

[acoustic thicket]

Hi, newcomer here, trying to test some stuffs :
why if I have a 10% base crit chance, if I add a ring with 25% increased crit strike chance , I end up with only 11% ? I should have 12.5 ? no ?

[next mango]

cant avoid a hit and cant take a hit means gibb. universal truh

[earnest widget]

Lagon might actually be harder with party when people are all over the place and you wont be 100% sure where lagon is going to hit something.

[sick yacht]

.1x.25=.025 so, no

[next mango]

seems it only affects base wich wuld be odd

[inland minnow]

idk my build is weird, i constantly lose mana when i get hit so my survivability gets so low cuz i cant leech 😄

[hazy abyss]

Anybody knows what Vale Spirit do? Are they only for Entangling Roots?

[river kernel]

Did some testing and the additional lightning blast forks have the same reduced dmg as further chains would. So that said, is there really any benefit to speccing into forked lightning? other than i guess the +2dmg in that node

[next mango]

? isnt it 10x0.25=2.5 and added so it shuld be 12.5?

[next mango]

i dodnt take it

doesnt give any benefit to me

like what do u get?

+2 base is about it

if that node said chains can cahin back to the enmy already hit then i wuld be a happy sailor

[sick yacht]

No, 10% is 0.1

[next mango]

10% base crit. 25% increased critical chance shuld make him be at 12.5 critical chance...

[acoustic thicket]

@next mango @mild geyser
I think you're right, sorry, I'm not that good at math

[sick yacht]

That's not how the math works my guy

[next mango]

yeah i see that but i dont get it lol

[acoustic thicket]

you have 0.1 chance to crit to which you add 0.25

[sick yacht]

^

[acoustic thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[sick yacht]

Base crit chance is 0.05

[next mango]

per hit

yeah

5%

[errant dawn]

just wanna make sure, smite doesnt have to be on my bar for full talent effect unlike holy aura, right?

[sick yacht]

Correct

[sick yacht]

So what are you not understanding? That would make his crit chance at 10% 0.1

[next mango]

yes

0.1x1.25=0.125

[sick yacht]

👀🤔

Where are they getting 125% crit chance

[earnest widget]

do you know you have 10% base crit chance or are you looking at the crit chance in character sheet? normal base crit is 5%

[next mango]

0.1x0.25=0.025 0.1+0.025=0.125

[earnest widget]

crit chance in character sheet is your final crit chance.

its not like your start multiplying that number with each increase.

[sick yacht]

Before skill modifiers

[next mango]

10% base crit with 25% increased shuld make him have 12.5% crit chance man. idk if im dumb but i just dont see how it isnt

[sick yacht]

Base crit is multiplied by crit chance. 0.1x.25=0.025

Which rounds to 0.11

[next mango]

nah u multiply by 1.25 if it says 25% increased

else u would have less crit while under 100% increased

[sick yacht]

No, that would be 125% increased

[next mango]

no increased means u keep the base but u add a % of the base to it

if i tell u u get 100$ and ill increase that by 10% if u smile how much dollar u get?

110$

10% of is not the same as 10% increase

[sick yacht]

I seem to have fucked up. You're correct

[acoustic thicket]

I was looking at my character sheet

[next mango]

man i was close to calling an ambalamb and get my brain checked

[earnest widget]

I dunno but maybe like 0,05x0,25=0.0125 so he would get 1.25% more crit chance and then the math would be correct if that 10% was actually the current crit chance and not base crit. so 10% crit chance + 1.25% is rounded to that 11%

[sick yacht]

Night shift+ vodka doesn't help with math games

[stray snow]

does anyone know if its better to stack physical damage or DoT for a bleed build?

or would you need a healthy amount of both? im on an acolyte!@

[next mango]

i think its just using the base 5% is whats the case here

[earnest widget]

yes like he said he was looking at character sheet.

[next mango]

all good im glad we stayed to work it out and didnt get yelly

[sick yacht]

They have the same ranges

[next mango]

yeah if a style has inc base u wont see that bc sheet only has general

so if a style adds 5% base to the 5% normal base u just take the crit chance and double it for the skill basically

it wont show

[stray snow]

what do you mean?

[faint cape]

At the same number they are the same for bleed damage. That said, you are probably doing some phys hit damage that phys % will affect, but DOT % will not

[next mango]

it means the aphixes of dot and phys have the same range of increase

[errant dawn]

both/doesnt matter, big modifiers would be phys penetration & bleed duration, and then plain increased damage

[next mango]

DoT wuld be more beneficial if u also did e.g. poison but phys is better if u also use other phys shit

[sick yacht]

Normally if an affix is more specific it has higher ranges (spell crit rolls higher than crit) but phys and dot both roll 70-105 at t5

[stray snow]

both those affixes are so rare 😩

[stray snow]

ah i see i see

[stray snow]

ok so maybe stacking leech and phy%?

[next mango]

id scour last epoch tools for items that do what Ginnie said tbh

[sick yacht]

If you're going lich you don't need leech anywhere besides your passive tree

[steady bear]

I was wondering if a skill like "puncture" has a node that is "20% chance to bleed" (or 40, 60..) is that going to be calculated in its damage per second tooltip?

[sick yacht]

Yeah

[faint cape]

Yeah, I'd say phys % is probably slightly better unless you are doing other types of DOT damage like poison, necrotic, or fire

[errant dawn]

yeah only some classes get class-affixes for bleed phys penetration and such, otherwise theyre only on amulets in small form, or uniques

[next mango]

pucci are u phys acolyte? bonecurse much? then phys all the way

[stray snow]

yeah im running valdyrs chalic it made the build so much better

[steady bear]

sorry, was that answer to my question? wanted to make sure

[errant dawn]

yeah valdyr is a key one for bleed

[next mango]

bonecurse is broken atm

[stray snow]

i do use bone curse!

dont say that where the devs can see 😦

[next mango]

lol

they know

[sick yacht]

I'm 100% sure they know it's bugged

[stray snow]

bugged how?

[next mango]

and the one that says "bone curse is single target" because with cursed limbs that becomes a lie

u apply with transplant first then this

if u cast bone curse ok its single target but if u apply by eg transplant or with an aoe with cursed limbs it is still aoe

[stray snow]

ahh im not using either of those nodes i c i c

well thanks for the help everyone 🖤

[next mango]

here thatone is a lie

these three together are just dumb strong

signet of agony however is dumb weak btw

idk what the devs were thinking with thatone

[stray snow]

ill try it out 🙂

[next mango]

yo why does ride the lighnting got that zig zack motion? aint nobody can stand that tilt

id take the 30% inc damage but the zig zag is just dumb

its like someone wuld shake ur head erraticaly while u use it

[errant dawn]

hmmm why did these boots just bump up my ignite tooltip by a ton, i thought penetration wasnt affecting its tooltip? cause generic fire penetration didnt seem to

atrophy seems to have no effect either

[faint cape]

Penetration does affect the tooltip

or it should, might also be wonky for ailments

[next mango]

if its a mob debuff it wont change tooltip dps

marked for death proc on skill doesnt change skill dps tooltip neither

[errant dawn]

yeah so much for accuracy i guess

[next mango]

well technically the tooltip cant know if and how mayn debuffs what mob has or how much armor or rez etc

[errant dawn]

i guess fire penetration for ignite is the only one that can actually reflect on tooltip since its not a target one

[next mango]

exactly

fire pen like here is always live

[errant dawn]

farming these with lp seems like pain, only found one pair so far in general while farming for sulorons

[next mango]

culd be that they have high base lvl means its harder for them to get lp at all and lesser

man whats the idea with static discharge on surge? how wuld u ever generate enough static charge to feed that?

[brazen needle]

Just starting out in this game and had a question. Does life leech work on bleed damage?

[next mango]

yes

[brazen needle]

Cool

[next mango]

if its general leech it does

[brazen needle]

I found a necklace that offers 6.6% damage leeched

[next mango]

thers elemental leech e.g. which wont work with bleed since its physical

[brazen needle]

Thanks

[next mango]

bleeding heart?

[zenith hound]

Do people not take X% less damage over time taken? Seems like DoTs get pretty lethal at higher levels but I only ever hear people talking about health/hybrid health, armor, endurance, res, lower crit %

[minor vigil]

you prety much always want a cleanse

that solves most dots

[zenith hound]

Ah like the potion one?

[minor vigil]

yes

[faint cape]

Yeah, there's not a lot of DOT effects you can't cleanse or easily avoid

[zenith hound]

My most recent HC death was level 70 monos, some guy who did poison over like, 90% of the screen it looked like

And then it killed me almost instantly

[mild mesa]

I have Summon Skeletal Mage with Pyromancers specced, the skills says it adds Pyromancers to the pool of summons. However, if I have no Skeletal Mages up I randomly get Pyromancers or regular Mages. After some play I end up with 5 Pyromancers and I never get a Skeletal Mage again, is this intended or a bug?

I stood there with 5 Pyromancers up casting the spell and I only got extra Pyromancers

[faint cape]

Sounds like you may have picked up some nasty enemy modifier, that's not natural

[zenith hound]

Wish it took a pic on death

I dont think they were too crazy

[faint cape]

although zerrick does cover a lot of the screen normally, it's just something you have to avoid

[minor vigil]

scalebane swarmkeeper?

[zenith hound]

Yes

Thats the guy

[faint cape]

If you took the following node, that'll remove regular mages from the pool

[minor vigil]

yea you can't tank that, you need to stay close to him

[zenith hound]

Oh is the area not close?

[faint cape]

Yeah, there are a few enemies that make big ring effects where you need to stay in the "eye of the storm" sorta thing

[zenith hound]

Gotcha, yeah I was ranged, it killed me pretty instantly

[faint cape]

that guy and Heorot are the main ones

[mild mesa]

I do not, if I start out casting I get an equal mix of regular mages and pyromancers. After a while some mages die, I resummon and I always eventually end up with nothing but pyromancers

like I said I can then stand there casting forever and Ill never get a regular mage again

[faint cape]

Well, if you don't have the Inferno node specced and it's doing that, it's a bug

!bug

[ripe brook]

To make sure a bug gets fixed, please post about it here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports.

[dry narwhal]

But why do you want regular ones and not pyromancers

[mild mesa]

I have no idea what im doing this is just my first character, just something I noticed

but sure ill report it

[dry narwhal]

That's just how it works

[faint cape]

Nobody wants the regular mage for anything other than "different minions" count for abomination... but bug is bug

[dry narwhal]

Without that node that make all pyros they are chance to summon

It's not a bug

[mild mesa]

and thats exactly what is not happening

I get 100% pyros

without speccing that node

[faint cape]

It is definitely a bug to get all pyros if you don't have it specced for all pyros

in a way, it's actually a beneficial bug for you since you get to save a skill point lol

[mild mesa]

I'm just speccing into everything to see what looks cool, can minmax when I've finished the campaign

[open zealot]

time rot and doom both scale off increased void damage right?

[ruby inlet]

Is Forgemaster broken? from lvl 46, now im 86, haven't seen an Axe spawn. Neither from Direct cast or Warpath spinning forge

[dry narwhal]

It's been reported

[ruby inlet]

I see, so its known, thanks!

[bitter delta]

Alright, one more attempt. I need a decent boss killer build, any suggestions?

[faint cape]

Yes, they deal void damage

[faint cape]

Have you already tried some?

[bitter delta]

Yeah, I'm already level 100 with my druid. I just want a quicker boss killer.

Also, something new to play

[faint cape]

Abomination is always a strong standby. Can't think of any others off the top of my head right now

particularly, ones that aren't primalist

[buoyant trench]

My first character was a static orb Sorcerer.

What should I check next? I like ranged and casting, and have been interested in a fire or ice build.

[faint cape]

If you don't want to make a new character, I think I've heard meteor and glacier are both good

[buoyant trench]

I WANT to make a new character, I just can't choose 😆

[faint cape]

alternatively, you could make a fire paladin (not typically ranged, but maybe could be) or cold spriggan

[buoyant trench]

I like every class option, though I feel Mage will be my favorite.

[faint cape]

ice minions, either primalist style or necro are both good, too

[shell hound]

anyone care to explain what this means by "highly efficient low tier Affixes"?

[minor vigil]

reign of winter/dragonsong+meteor bowmage?

i like dragonsong better but it's preference

[faint cape]

oh yeah, rogue exists, too

[keen viper]

Some affixes give you a lot of value on level one

[buoyant trench]

Been hyped about bow builds as well!

[keen viper]

And then not much on next levels

[minor vigil]

i greatly enjoy the bowmages

[keen viper]

For example + level of skill affixes

[minor vigil]

esp if you have a legendary mourningfrost

[faint cape]

Mainly just that one listed, but really just things that don't need high tier to be good

like chill or frailty chance

[keen viper]

You get +1 to skill level on tier 1

[faint cape]

or +1 max skeles

[keen viper]

Then nothing much for next 3 tiers

And then +2 on tier 5

Or - throwing mana cost on rings

Or block chance on rings

[buoyant trench]

Any place I can check builds besides maxroll?

[faint cape]

lastepochtools.com

[buoyant trench]

Cool! Thanks!

[keen viper]

Also. Forums

[faint cape]

and of course just google will pull up youtube and forum guides, too, though letools does try to index those

[keen viper]

And YouTube

[icy tinsel]

Is it 1 blessing per monolith?

or if i reclear do i get another?

[supple linden]

1 per

you can change it or try for a higher roll on additional clears

[icy tinsel]

ty

also, if a passive says "you get blah if you used a melee attack recently" -- does channeling warpath count as recently? i.e. does it count the START of the channel, or the entire time?

i asked a similar question earlier about spells and they said it was the start

[true roost]

quick question, what is the benefit of going ward over life or at least low life?

[supple linden]

you really want both if you are playing a class that can do ward

[keen viper]

You can get crazy high amounts of ward compared to life

[minor vigil]

Low life is kinda out of meta

But ward on top of life is good on some classes

[keen viper]

If you can constantly get small amounts of ward

It's really good defensive option in addition to hp

[urban fog]

in terms of how this works for abilities, does this mean that X ability, has to have both Void and Melee, in its scaling tags?

[keen viper]

As usually it comes from prefixes instead of affixes

[keen viper]

No

[true roost]

ah ok so there's isn't some hidden mechanic like 10% reduced damage to ward it's just a secondary hp pool

[keen viper]

It needs to have melee in its scaling tags

And you need to have any source of melee void damage

It may come from affix on weapon, passive tree or skill having void tag

[urban fog]

yeah I'm going towards it, felt like checking out the void knight. Seen a few things already for it. Just wondered how exactly it worked. Thank you sir :)

[keen viper]

It's important to know that skill doesn't have to have element tag to deal damage of that element

It mostly just shows you what element will the generic melee or spell damage be converted to

[shell hound]

aaah ok ty

[acoustic thicket]

I understand that the throwing skill affects the acid flask, but how does that affects the decoy since its dmg doesnt occur when it lands ? (or does it ?)

[rustic fulcrum]

its been 15 hours since i last found an upgrade. Is this just how it is once you're pushing for bis ? all monos are around 250 corruption. Should I just run dungeons or something? monos dont seem too good for upgrades anymore

[lavish gyro]

I think it depends on what gear you're going for, are you looking for exalted items? Or LP gear

[rustic fulcrum]

mainly exalts and one LP unique

[earnest widget]

well LA if you have a lot of gold. You can farm exalts from Sanctum too. Check both doors to hit specific type exalt drops.

[lavish gyro]

250 isn't crazy high for empowered, you can definitely go higher for more drops, that and are you aware of how to "craft" the monolith tree

[cinder hamlet]

is full game being released this year or have they not said anything still?

looking forward to cycles so bad

[pastel pebble]

300 is about the "cap" for it as afterwards it becomes a lot of diminishing returns

[pastel pebble]

Goal is this year I believe

[terse sedge]

Hmm, I"m not sure where to continue the main story quest. I'm supposed to Speak with Alrich in the Maj'elka Waystation, but when I go there I don't see anyone to speak to, the map says the waypoint is locked. What am I supposed to do, how can I fix this?

[bleak bane]

How often do the NPC vendors reset?

[distant frigate]

which build is doable with this relic?

[cinder hamlet]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/unique/UAwRgzCCcDsQ

[lavish gyro]

@rustic fulcrum By "crafting" I mean completing the monoliths you want, leaving ones you don't want uncompleted, then you use a reroll reward monolith, finally, you revert all completed ones (by completing the monolith that reverts the tree) after you take a screenshot of the map, then you rinse and repeat.

[stiff stone]

If a unique has 1 legendary potential, does that mean when you slam it, it will take one affix from the exalted? and if it had 3 potential, it would take 3?

[native sail]

Yup

[stiff stone]

and i assume once you do it, the unique loses its potential

[faint cape]

It becomes a legendary, and legendaries can't have legendary potential