❔┃ask-the-community

[buoyant sinew]

it also very much depends on how interested you are in making multiple builds

cause making a single build and pushing it to a point where the gear is quite good and you can do all the endgame content probably doesn't take more than 50h or so

but there are so many interesting builds to try

[wide sentinel]

thats not true at all

[buoyant sinew]

I guess it depends how you define "all the content"

[wide sentinel]

gl getting 2+lp boss specific drops

[buoyant sinew]

well yeah but you don't need those

[brittle atlas]

yeah, it doesn't take much to be baseline capable of killing bosses

[wide sentinel]

how so

[brittle atlas]

I guess it depends what you find acceptable/fun

[buoyant sinew]

I'm not saying the time taken to max out your gear, just to be able to comfortably do all the endgame content

I agree that those are very different

[brittle atlas]

I personally don't feel like a build is successful or done if it's taking me multiple minutes to kill a T4 boss

[wide sentinel]

damage pepega

[buoyant sinew]

but the person asking the question seemed to be talking about the latter

[nocturne notch]

T4 is in those keys or in monos?

[brittle atlas]

really if a T4 boss lives more than about 10 seconds it's hard to feel anything anymore

T4 is dungeons

[nocturne notch]

10 seconds ?$?

So you don’t need to know mechanics at that point ?

[brittle atlas]

ye

[nocturne notch]

Nice

Haha

[brittle atlas]

there are several builds capable of bypassing boss mechanics with damage atm

[nocturne notch]

Also dungeons as in the lost bastion keys and stuff?

[wide sentinel]

i wouldnt say its boring to push one build, if you like minmaxing and you wont get bored of the game for sure if you like making several builds cause just by pushing 1 build you get gear for any build on the same class

[brittle atlas]

fix tbd

[brittle atlas]

temporal sanctum, soulfire bastion, twilight arbor

[nocturne notch]

Yeah in every game I play I can play the same class forever min maxing if it’s the right one for me

[brittle atlas]

are the three dungeons atm

[nocturne notch]

Ah ok

[wide sentinel]

ye but here you also minmaxing other builds at the same time(with exclusion of boss specific drops) cause when you farm exalted items there is an even chance youll get an op item for your build or some other build on the same class

i usually just setup loot filter for 2-3 builds at the same time

[nocturne notch]

Yeah

[brittle atlas]

yeah, I keep a ton of rules to look for items for other builds

especially idols

[wide sentinel]

ye or weapons/jewelry, those are not class restricted

[brittle atlas]

yeah

[nocturne notch]

I’ve been using loot filters from other people until now; I think tonight I’m gonna try making my own for the first time

Theirs isn’t specific enough for me

[brittle atlas]

yeah, I've always just used my own filters and learned it along the way

the basic idea of hide everything, show what you want is pretty simple to get at a baseline

then you can do more complex rules as you figure it out

[wide sentinel]

i still dont know how to import filters and always used self made one

[nocturne notch]

Yeah, I was planning to hide everything, show the bases i need

to start

and then play with affix stuff later

Seems good enough for me rn I dont even have my base build together

Oh and probably do idol stuff now too bcos I changed like 2 idols and it made a pretty big difference LOL

[buoyant sinew]

I currently have flame wraith and throwing smite idols on the filters for every active character. always looking for that upgrade 👀

[noble shell]

Does the choice of 90 echo matter?

[balmy current]

No, you'll do all 3 to unlock the empowered monos

[blazing steeple]

what happens if i enter this echo

does this layout change or increase in difficulty if i do that?

[balmy current]

That's one of the quest echoes, it won't affect the difficulty of the mono web monos. You'll need to do all 3 of the quest echoes to unlock the next timeline.

The third quest echo is a boss

[blazing steeple]

ah i see

but once i unlock the next timeline, can i still play in the previous timeline?

[buoyant sinew]

yes

you can play timelines infinitely, just resetting them over and over

but that's generally best to do with the empowered versions of timelines (once you beat all the highest level normal timelines, you unlock the ability to do level 100 versions of any timeline)

[blazing steeple]

ah i see, so if i understand this right, different timelines is a bit like different tier maps in poe? like white, yellow, red maps?

[buoyant sinew]

sort of. but in terms of difficulty and rewards it's more like all normal timelines are white maps, base empowered timelines are like yellow maps, and increasing corruption of empowered timelines pushes them into red-map-equivalent difficulty

the level scaling in LE is very flat, so a level 90 area is not as big a jump in difficulty from a level 60 area as you might expect

[blazing steeple]

ah i see, thanks for trying to explain in poe terms haha, apreciate it

[blissful maple]

If i want to get a Bloody Nib, do i have to farm it in The last ruin or can i gample for it?

[north mist]

You can get it from anywhere, but only last ruin has echos that reward unique or set relics

If you mean gamble as in the vendor in town, i dont think you can get uniques at all from him anymore (and even if you can, all his items are capped at lvl 40, so you couldnt get nib anyway). The gambling got moved into soulfire bastion

[blissful maple]

I mean to use a rune of ascendance on a mage relic to get it 🙂

[north mist]

You can yes

[blissful maple]

sweet, going to try my luck with the 4 i got!

[safe token]

Why do the selected blessings are the character sheet have partial green rings around them? What does that indicate or track?

[native sail]

Those rings indicate your roll on them basically

[safe token]

Got it. So it's just a quick indicator of how much you'd like to reroll. Thx.

[native sail]

Pretty much yeah. No problem.

[acoustic crag]

how often does armourer refresh their stock?

i check it after every map for runes

also is there goldsinks? right now gold feels almost pointless

[native sail]

Stash space costs gold and there's also lightless arbor which is a dungeon that you spend large swaths of gold in for rewards at the end

[acoustic crag]

didnt know about dungeon thx

[nocturne notch]

this quest gives idol expansion

but I have them all

am I missing something

[snow spruce]

No, there are just more quests than strictly necessary to get all the idol slots

[nocturne notch]

Okay

[marble zinc]

Is the gold sink mostly for gambling or i should save it for something else?

[dry narwhal]

gambling or stash tabs are the only uses at the moment

[marble zinc]

Whats the attunement stat on gear?

Gotta love the diablo vibes

With beam loot 😅

[austere hound]

Check your character screen or the ingame guide: it gives 2 mana per point and scales attunement skills

[paper elm]

How strict is the legendary potential thing on what items you put together?

If my legendary is a one handed axe for example

does any one handed weapon work

or does it also need to be put together with a one handed axe

[buoyant sinew]

it has to be an axe

[paper elm]

ok ty

wont bother picking some of the items then :v

[haughty jasper]

Gambling until the endgame, then lightless arbor

[balmy current]

The normal gambler is capped to lvl 40, the only gold sink after that is the Lightless Arbour & buying stash tabs.

[vague cloak]

When a totem for example in its info pop up it has 2 scalings. Player and totem why does it display character scaling like attunement. Is it because that also affects the totems? I know it might be a stupid question.

[near quartz]

where to farm for uniques with 3+ lp

[north mist]

Yes, it also affects the totems

[vague cloak]

¨Thanks

[near quartz]

are there any builds that uses exsanguinous

[minor kindle]

a lot

[near quartz]

[sharp quartz]

Everywhere. the higher the map and difficulty the better.

[near quartz]

[sharp quartz]

and remember, there are uniques that technically can roll with 3LP or even 4LP but the chances of this happening are less than being hit by lightning while in a faraday cage in a lead box buried 30 meters below the ground.

[surreal thunder]

Saw some news that multiplayer is coming to last epoch
bit cant find a date (Other than a "Coming next year" in a post which is 2 years old now. )

Im assuming its because there's still no date? Was there said anything in a livestream/devstream perhaps.
I searched a bit through the server but havent found anything. End of this year?/Next year? Anything

[sharp quartz]

Try reading the last 3 posts on the Dev section of the forum... https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/developer-blogs/38

[surreal thunder]

I see there's a forum

[sharp quartz]

As to when it comes, well, when its ready. We are hoping before the end of this year.

[surreal thunder]

I feel dumb i was watching posts IN the forums but havent checked THE forum

[sharp quartz]

but thats up to the devs

[surreal thunder]

Yea thats cool no date then.

[sharp quartz]

read the blog posts

[lunar holly]

being hit by lightning while in a faraday cage in a lead box buried 30 meters below the ground
I'm now curious if this is physically possible 😅

[marble zinc]

Are there weaps that give minion stats? Havent come across any yet

[sharp quartz]

Mythbusters to the rescue. Probably could try something a little more complicated but I figure anything in a faraday cage is likely safe. Tired of the older than the universe chances. 😛

[sharp quartz]

There are various uniques with Minion related stats. and a few weapons with minion implicits like Soul Harvester axes

[candid elm]

Sure there are a bunch, here's some weapon base types that have a minion implicit:
||Sickle 1H Axe, minion damage.
Soul Harvester 1H Axe, minion necrotic damage.
Dragonbone Axe 1H, minion physical damage.
Oak Scepter 1H, minion damage.
Skeletal Scepter 1H, minion damage.
Bearded Axe 2H, minion damage.
Obsidian Axe 2H, minion physical damage.
Bone Scythe 2H Axe, minion necrotic penetration.
Horned Staff, +1 minion skills.
Fleshbound Tome - off hand, minion health and damage.||

There are also a ton of different uniques with minion affixes.

[sharp quartz]

shouldve put a spoiler tag around that to leave them something to do for themselves. 🤪

[candid elm]

Ok done

[runic hinge]

Hey friends. There's a user on this server who attempted to scam/hack/something me. Is there a way to let the mods know?

[sharp quartz]

!support

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[sharp quartz]

or Ping @delicate dust if its specific to discord

[runic hinge]

It's specific to Discord. I couldn't find the right protocol on any post 😦

Thank you for the lead!

[sharp quartz]

Sure Kain will help now that he has been pinged (when he has a moment obviously)

[near quartz]

my deeps is getting pretty ass, i wanted to play maelstrom/avalanche shaman but my laptop cant handle avalanche so i switched to bhuldar's eq and its suffering and pain

[minor kindle]

avalanche, 0fps build

lmao

[near quartz]

my game just freezes

irl and in game

its probably the chill ground

i'll probably just have to put in the time to level my second character but i cant think of anything i wanna build around

and also levelling is

[marble zinc]

Whats a monolith of fate? End game content?

Say 58 on map. U need min to be 58 lvl?

[sharp quartz]

Monoliths are end game content thats infinitely scalable... normal monos have map levels that increase... empowered monos at all level 100 maps with corruption that has no limit. you do not need to any minimum level to try monoliths once you can access them.. it all depends on if your build (and skill as a player) can handle the difficulty.

[ruby cairn]

I feel like this is a stupid question, since I have already killed her 3 times on other characters, but how do you kill Majasa's 2nd form? I feel like I am just getting stat-checked and no amount of playing correctly can win the fight.

[austere hound]

Are you dying constantly or what's the issue?

[ruby cairn]

2nd phase she dashes to me and combos me taking out 80% of my HP then I dash away and she dashes to me and takes out 80% of my HP

I can delay this a bit by dashing and kiting, but she just full stat-checks me with this dash->combo attack

[austere hound]

Oh I always stood really close to her when I fought her, getting turned into stone constantly but can't remember a dash attack

[ruby cairn]

Yeah my previous characters that got here just facetanked her. This one ... I can't be near her and she can't be outrun

[amber notch]

Phys resist

[amber notch]

Armor

[ruby cairn]

250? Unsure how to get more in the campaign

[thorn rune]

are you playing rogue?

[ruby cairn]

Mage

dash = teleport

[amber notch]

Are you underleveled?

[ruby cairn]

56?

[thorn rune]

well majasa is 58, not sure if those 2 levels might help

[amber notch]

Think it should be fine but just go monoliths first

[minor vigil]

you can just come back to majasa

[ruby cairn]

monolithis... first? Wait

[minor vigil]

shes harder than early monos

[thorn rune]

I play mostly rogue and I have to use decoy, smokescreen, etc. to beat majasa at 57-58

[ruby cairn]

Hold up... when do you get access to monos?

[amber notch]

When yu get mastery

[balmy current]

If you're in melee range, as soon as she starts casting her petrify skill move around behind her.

You weren't being hit by her dash 'cause you were in melee range (which is how you avoid it).

[thorn rune]

yeah there’s some people who start monos at like level 30…not sure how much benefit that is but its a strat

[ruby cairn]

Okay I feel very dumb for not realizing I could just go to monos ... why kill Majasa then? What's the point?

[minor vigil]

+1 to all attributes

[ruby cairn]

ah

[thorn rune]

you also need to clear acts for the skill points and idol slots

although its not majasa specifically, by the time you get that close I usually figure might as well just kill her

[austere hound]

Ye I know, was just too slow multiple times lol

[balmy current]

I think it's more that they don't want to do the campaign again

[thorn rune]

fair

[austere hound]

I mean isn't that also much more xp?

Doing lv58 areas with lv30

[amber notch]

Not really

It's capped

[balmy current]

The XP you get is capped to your lvl +5. So a lvl 30 in a 58 zone would get xp as if they were in a lvl 35 zone.

[austere hound]

Oh didn't find this information when I was looking it up a while back

[warm yew]

Mind you, that's per-instance of xo earned so you still level insanely quick, as you go from 30, to 31, to 32 with three mobs killed ...

[austere hound]

Are there any records for reaching lv100?

[balmy current]

The devs personally come down & give you a hug & a chocolate medal.

[knotty hull]

k

[balmy current]

Then your name & deeds are inscribed on an obsidian obelisk that will be launched into deep space.

[minor vigil]

level 100 is not very hard to reach

it's not like poe

[austere hound]

Well that wasn't my question, wanted to know what's the fastest time

@balmy current sounds good, looking forward to that

[minor kindle]

speedrun?

[austere hound]

Ye

[minor kindle]

I don't think anyone has tried it yet, it would be a very long time...

Unless someone has found some bug or very efficient tricks

[austere hound]

It's faster than poe right so can't be that long I guess

[minor kindle]

true

I'm guessing it's within a few dozen hours?

Because I once tried to complete the record of killing a T4 Julra with a level 1~90 solo character in about 24 hours

[austere hound]

Without knowing character played time I will not know how long it took, next character I need to track that

[austere hound]

Did you succeed? What build?

[minor kindle]

Earthquake Beastmaster and Judgement Paladin

That's not a speedrun challenge for me at that moment, so it could actually be faster and I'm sure there will be some better builds to do that

[brittle atlas]

in 083 I did lich 1-100 solo in 19 hours. I'm sure it could be done faster if you wanted to use twink gear or w/e

obviously could be done even faster solo w/ more experience/practice

and is probably faster nowadays due to some changes in the monolith system

[noble shell]

Biggest enemy is loading screens for me tbh, PC not insane but nothing to scoff at

Looting echo rewards + loading screen in&out prob takes longer then an echo

[brittle atlas]

wow

[noble shell]

Hi again Arborus, I remember the other day you had alot of good insight into void bomber etc, I changed up some bits, but maybe im an idiot dropping reversal could I share my buildplanner for ciritque?

Or anyone for that matter I guess https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/zQqwaR0o

I know reversal is good but there was alot of RSI inducing spamming compared to this "version"

i basically dropped lunge for sigils and reversal for echoes and went a bit towards rot

[brittle atlas]

imo you either want echoes or smite, not both

reversal is like at least 2x more damage

cutting it is a massive loss for single target

[hollow socket]

The petrify actually tracks you at the start, you need to wait for a moment until you dodge (depends on your reaction speed) if you wanna use a movement skill for it. Knowing this has made the fight much safer for me.

[noble shell]

The damage is outrageous compared to the other build, but that could be sigils I guess.. And extra surv from the armor

[noble shell]

But yeah ST absolutely makes sense, what about gear? I mean i need to balance out resists and then i can spend itemization budget on other stuff, not alot of valueable suffixes though except health?*

[brittle atlas]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/WQJW2exB

here's a planner w/ just suffixes

to keep an eye out for

[noble shell]

If we ignore rare prefixes like echo damage/void damage etc What prefix if not vitality? (excluding helmet for +1 i guess) Attunment? mana? (maybe less important if the reversal version)

[pseudo pewter]

This base and exalted stat is one that i need for a guide/build. The stat in purple is the 'sealed' one i need but im not sure what to do with this item. any suggestions?

These are the stats i need

[brittle atlas]

glyph of despair the armor, craft % health to T5

chaos the crit avoid if you have any potential extra

[pseudo pewter]

Hm but i cant seal the T6 right?

[brittle atlas]

nope

[pseudo pewter]

@brittle atlas

wait so what am i sealing

[brittle atlas]

the armor, to free up a suffix slot

to craft % increased health

[pseudo pewter]

the armor isnt a stat i need though

[brittle atlas]

I mean, you could gamble chaosing the armor if you want to

but you're much more likely to brick your item that way

and imo it's unusable without increased health

[pseudo pewter]

gotcha

ok i sealed the armor

[brittle atlas]

vit is great everywhere you can get it

[pseudo pewter]

@brittle atlas this is what i ended up with

[noble shell]

Poor mans crafting here, open prefix attunmenet? not really anything nice to chose from

[brittle atlas]

abyssal decay duration, void increased/added

[noble shell]

I mean i'll probably just chaos the void resist for armor but i'd like to have a prefix first so it can prob from void chaos?

Yeah no shards for those 😄

[brittle atlas]

I'd just save it until you have them then

[naive ore]

Hello,
I broke the game by doing something that was not intended. At the very beginning of the game, after killing the worm near the precipice, you have to take the first rift & go back to the past. I took it & without doing it on purpose I took it back the other way. I find myself in the time of the worm (it is no longer there) There is no longer the rift & I cannot teleport to the old time because I have not discovered a point. What to do?

[noble shell]

Fair enough, thanks!

[brittle atlas]

try changing zones and going to kill the worm again?

only thing I can think of

[naive ore]

Hopefully doing this solved the problem, but for a scripted moment that weird & its the easy way to do ^^ anyway good night o7

[marble zinc]

Lol when u use portal all the minions just decide to run to u manually😆 so u just chill there till they come back to you

[blazing steeple]

are theese permantent? and if they are, am i able to switch them out for other blessings?

[north mist]

Yes and yes

If you do the timeline again you get another set of options to choose from (or keep your current)

Although i wouldnt suggest it until you get to empowered monoliths (they award better blessings)

[blazing steeple]

so do i have 1 blessing slot for each timeline?

[north mist]

yes

[blazing steeple]

ah i see

[north mist]

And there are different options per timeline

[blazing steeple]

oh and one more thing, does a blessing slot from lets say the past still aply in the future timeline

or does the blessing from the future timeline only apply in the future timeline

[ebon fossil]

How tf?

[north mist]

Idk what you mean by future or past, but blessings are always active

[blazing steeple]

idk if thats what they are called haha, i only saw that once i finished a timeline i could chose between a timeline of the future or the past so i just assumed that thats how they are categorized

[buoyant sinew]

ah, that's just a specific choice you get to make for the first timeline. it's not reflective of any categorisation of timelines

there are a few cases where you have to choose between two timelines to unlock, and that's just how that one plays out

[noble shell]

I'm guessing you have to reclear timelines/echoes if you create a new character (Not SSF) ?

[buoyant sinew]

yep

[marble zinc]

When u start getting dungeons keys? I keep coming across and asks for key to enter

[buoyant sinew]

they get introduced to the drop pool as you go through the story, but only really start dropping in any quantity in the endgame. the dungeons aren't really meant to be entered pre-endgame on your first character, they're designed (among other things) to let subsequent characters skip through parts of the story.

[mint solar]

When the game comes out of beta will we lose our progress?

[cinder fossil]

you'll keep your characters but they wont be able to play online

as for characters made post 0.9, i am not sure

[mint solar]

ok ty

[burnt bolt]

about what level of tankyness do i need to survive t4 julra?

i have 75% all res and 53% armour

and 3k life

but i'm still melting

[brittle atlas]

what is melting you?

julra has a lot of things you're just not meant to get hit by

otherwise, what kind of build are you playing? what's your method of health recovery?

[burnt bolt]

Last time i died to the ice cone because I was too far away to dodge and was taking out pillars

i'm playing an impact judgement build and my health recovery is 89 regen and 7% melee leech

[brittle atlas]

do you have 100% crit avoidance?

60% endurance?

if you're a melee build with 7% leech you should be fine on recovery and mostly just concerned with 1 shots

[burnt bolt]

60% endurance, 79% crit avoidance

and endurance threshold is boosted to 839

[brittle atlas]

definitely want to round off the crit avoidance, or it's always possible you'll just take random crits

[burnt bolt]

alright

[wanton hatch]

Curious. I have these 3 items finally. I plan to make Low Life Spriggan build (the one I like is by Lizard).

Is there an ideal way to level / scale up. Twisted Heart is level req 80, so I likely can't use the LL Spriggan until then.

4 items*

[cold plaza]

why not just level as Sprit Thorns? Crit + spell damage is fine until you get all the gear equipped.

could level as the totem pop build 😄

[native sail]

Does taking the Flame Wraiths node apply the fire tag to the Summon Wraith skill?

[wanton hatch]

Was actually wondering if your maelstrom build would be a faster carry to 80

Although I have that build already at lvl 98. So if Spirit Thorns leveling speed is roughly on par with Maelstrom Bear.... I'd prefer trying something new.

[vapid aspen]

Twisted heart is mostly defensive anyway

Like you should be able to get 2k or so health and be perfectly fine until 80

Tbh you can hit 80 safely playing literally anything as long as you dont completely turn off brain

[tired pond]

I just did a huge mistake. I wanted to remove empty stash-category but this was my Primalist-stash-category with many sub-category-stash-tabs. I removed it by mistake and not sure if I have some bug, because (green painted pool) there is a one stash-category with different names but it's the same stash-category. On the screen Rogue + Primalist. Okay this is some bug. This two categories are sharing now my Primalist and Rogue sub-categories. It seems that after I deleted Primalist category then sub-categories were moved to another category - Rogue. How can I move those sub-categories without buying all new Category-sub-stash ?

Is there some way to recover deleted category ?

[wanton hatch]

I bet. Was moreso looking for fastest to 80 build. You think Spirit Throns vs Maelstrom could be faster?

[vapid aspen]

Idk tbh

Spirit thorns is what I would pick from those two though just because I like direct casting skills

Feels good to press button and have stuff happen immediately

And if it feels good even if it is slower, it will feel faster.

[wanton hatch]

yeah

thing i liked about maelstrom you can kind of just run through stuff and it does. good mobility. But I'm down to try something new for sure, as long as it's not bad leveling build

[wanton hatch]

@vapid aspen you dont happen to have a build link to this do you? Look at a couple but nothing quite that would show Spirit Thorns leveling.

[vapid aspen]

I would just wing it

spirit thorns isn't a complicated skill

4 projectiles that can all hit same target, 20 base damage, 60% added effectiveness. Grab a wand/staff/sceptre with some cast speed and inc spell damage and just shoot stuff.

Only thing to be concerned about is rage sustain in sprig form

so like, first 6 points go to garden of rage then just go right down the spirit thorns side of tree. Grab pen and pierce, maybe go vale spirits or the totem cast thing idk. Up to you. For leveling all of this doesn't matter much.

[wanton hatch]

Cool. Thx. I think there's ways to proc Maelstrom off it. Also, I think Crows can heal.

[nocturne notch]

Is there a way to farm for specific t6 stat on exalted item or do I just play until I rng get it

I want a specific stat to merge with my unique

[minor kindle]

waiting the right daily mod of Temporal Sanctum and Lightless Arbor dungeon for farming exalted jewelry, helmets, relics, and all types from Soulfire Bastion

[coral slate]

Is there a specific kill order for the Finding Pannion quest, to get loot?

[dry narwhal]

i don't think they drop anything?

and if they do it's probably inconsequential

[cinder magnet]

For the Skill Flurry, if I turn it into a channeled skill, how does that work with the nodes that grant health and mana when you hit with the skill. Will it active only once per channel, or for every hit? And what about skills that normally do different effects for each strike of the skill?

[acoustic thicket]

I'll ask here because i don't know where to:
difficulty settings. I saw solo, hardcore and masochist. I'm not interested in solo nor HC. but masochist worths it? Is really played? or the common is not enabling challenges?

[balmy current]

Flame Wraiths have the fire tag, yes. Not sure if the skill gets that tag (it should), since the tags would be specific to which Wraith it summons.

[balmy current]

Most people don't do challenges, Masochist is significantly harder than normal/SC. HC is the same as SC apart from what happens when you die (obviously).

[near quartz]

do higher corruption directly cause uniques to have higher chance to drop with lp?

or is it like, you get more unique drops overal so more chances of uniques dropping with lp

[minor kindle]

more unique drops

[blazing steeple]

do both of theese apply to spells?

is the only difference that spell crit is specific to spells and therefore it gives a larger crit bonus to compensate for it not being global crit chance?

[amber notch]

Both apply

and yeah different ranges

[marble zinc]

Do starter gear drops in end game also? I keep getting lvl 1-5 drops lol at 50

[blazing steeple]

there arnt any league resets in last epoch like in poe right?

[sharp quartz]

Filter out normal and magic gear.

[marble zinc]

Even yellows are below lvl 10

[sharp quartz]

I filter based on tier total so I never see anything low level anymore.. but i suppose an itemlevel 5 item with multiple T5s could still show up...

[vague cloak]

Im jumping a bit back and forth on characters while leveling and ive come to the conclusion that umbral blade, static orb and totems are my favorites. Which one is beginner friendly and maybe just a little bit tanky

[vapid aspen]

Umbral blades

Bladedancer is incredibly tanky if you know how to build, umbral blades has a ton of build options and is powerful with all of them.

[vague cloak]

ok thanks

[vapid aspen]

Static orb is a good clear skill, but imo sorcerer is not beginner friendly on defensive side

Technically sorc can become crazy tanky but it needs a lot of specific stuff setup

Like lightning blast single target + static orb clear is an incredibly powerful build at the ultra high end

[main plover]

Question on Passive benefit. Get x increase if you have at least 200 mana. Is it just that you need 200 mana, or will the benefit come and go as you use mana below 200 level?

[vapid aspen]

It should be your max mana

[main plover]

I was hoping so, thanks

[nocturne notch]

Anywhere to check what days drop which stats in temporal sanctum?

[crude ridge]

"Penetration applies after resistance are capped to 75%". Can anybody explain this one?

[floral badge]

Penetration applies after the cap. Shred applies before the cap. Meaning, if you have 100% Void res, 20% shred takes you to 80%. 20% penetration means you effectively have 55%. Note that monsters have an innate penetration - 1% per level up to 75.

[crude ridge]

Wait. It says it applies after resistances are capped. But penetration also work if you have less then 75.

Which is exactly what you have explained.

[north mist]

If a mob had 100% penetration and you had 100% fire res (capped at 75%) you would have -25% resistance for it.

[floral badge]

^

[crude ridge]

It is literally opposite to what it says.

[north mist]

No

[floral badge]

No?

[north mist]

First your resistances get capped at 75%, then its -100%

[crude ridge]

Well, I do understand how the resistances work. It is just the phrase that freaks me out.

[crude ridge]

:-(

I mean, what about the area level penetration?

[floral badge]

That applies the same way. After resists are capped to 75%.

So, at level 75, assuming you have at least 75% resists, your effective resists are 0%.

[crude ridge]

But if I have 150 it gets me to 0 anyway.

Should be 75.

It says it applies after resistances are capped which means cant penetrate under 75.

Do I miss something?

[floral badge]

No. Penetration applies after resists are capped to 75%. Having 150% does not help against penetration. It does protect against shred though.

[blazing steeple]

thats the build im planning to play, atm playing glacier/ice barrage and want to transition into static orb+lightning blast

[crude ridge]

It's maybe the part of an English grammar that makes me mad when I'm trying to translate it to the native language. Thank you. I think I have got what does the "after the cap" mean.

[floral badge]

Under the 75% cap, penetration and shred apply the same way.

[blazing steeple]

but is lightning blast/static orb still ok ish in the lvl 90s with good rolled yellow gear?

cause i want to play it but idk when to transition into it

[vapid aspen]

I don't know much about the build. I can't stand playing sorc

[blazing steeple]

haha okey thanks anyways

bowmage is the build i want to play tho, looks so fun and fluid

[north mist]

Idk what you mean by transition, you can just swap to it anytime

And theres a ton of different variations of it, so it doesnt really narrow it down

[blazing steeple]

yeah ik but how good does the gear need to be for it to scale good enough to be worth swithing into

cause the video i watched said that i should play glacier first and then swith to lightning blast later on

[north mist]

Just try it out

If it doesnt work, swap back

[blazing steeple]

but then id have to lvl my glacier build skills from 7 to 20 again haha

[north mist]

Which takes like 2 monoliths

[blazing steeple]

oh alr, ill try to craft some nice gear static orb gear first and see how it goes

when does that icebow unique from the bowmage build drop?

[north mist]

When you can kill the boss that drops it

[blazing steeple]

it doesnt say what it drops from on the wiki

[north mist]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsEYFYE4g

Fandom wiki is useless or incorrect, i wouldnt use it

[blazing steeple]

ah okey thanks

btw can i not chaos a maxed affix?

i cant select the damage to attackers

im prob doing something wrong haha, still learning how this system works

[amber notch]

How ar you going to upgrade something you can't upgrade

[blazing steeple]

cant i use glyph of chaos to switch it out to a random modifier

[mortal saddle]

when multiplayer

[blazing steeple]

im not trying to upgrade it, im trying to chaos it with the glyph. am i doing something wrong?

or does it upgrade it in the process of chaosing it?

and therefore i cant chaos a maxed affix?

[amber notch]

Exactly

[wanton hatch]

Will Inc Spell Dmg affect Frostbite Dmg?

[balmy current]

No, Frostbite is not a spell, it's an ailment.

[wanton hatch]

Hmm.. so getting spell damage for frostbite Spirit Thorns is kind of pointless

I imagine most of the damage comes from teh Frostbite, and not the direct hit from Spirit Thorns.

[balmy current]

Depends on the build & how many stacks of Frostbite you're able to apply.

Frostbite isn't really one of the ailments I think of when people talk about DoT builds though. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be "viable"....

[wanton hatch]

Running this with Freeze Rate Multiplier stacking

I think it'll be good by the end.

[placid perch]

I'm speed leveling apparently, lvl 45 in a lvl 50 zone. Is there a place I can grind exp to catch up or should I just wait until monos?

[minor kindle]

go to mono now

[balmy current]

That's normal.

[placid perch]

Got it! Thanks

[knotty hull]

hello

is Laceration, from Rive (sentinel), bleed?

[warm yew]

No - it's a Physical DoT ailment, but not Bleed.

[sharp quartz]

See https://www.lastepochtools.com/ailments/laceration

[warm yew]

Similar to how Poison Damage has both the Poison Ailment and Plague

[knotty hull]

ok gracias

wow its so bad

definitely going to take the ''more'' damage over laceration

[sharp quartz]

Its not a primary selling point of Rive imho

[knotty hull]

in your opinion, what is the best mastery for Rive?

paladin right

[marsh maple]

each mastery has a build for rive. So its more like, what do you want to play

Void Rive is good, Bleed Rive Forge Guard is good, and Paladin Crit Rive is good too

[knotty hull]

going for paladin crit rive

looks fun

[marsh maple]

thats what im currently working on

[knotty hull]

i watched few minutes of your live

yes you are gonna make video right

[marsh maple]

Yep eventually here

I slept in so probably tomorrow

[knotty hull]

nice, i will watch carefuly, thanks for your work

[marsh maple]

ive been juggling LE and Slormancer as of late so its been exhausting

[naive ore]

Hello, I was looking for builds & I found one for the void knight using passive skills tree from paladin & forge guard. How this is possible?

[brittle atlas]

you can put points in every mastery tree up to a certain point, even if it's not your mastery

[naive ore]

I didnt even try, those others tree seems lock in the iu x)

[brittle atlas]

In game, the cut off is visualized with a chain

[naive ore]

Yea that why I didnt even try

[tired hill]

Can someone help me with terminology? Echos are the independent runs in a monolith correct? So a monolith would be the entire map of "Temple of Black Sun" for instance correct?

[warm yew]

Correct

[tired hill]

Awesome, ty. Just wanna make sure I am understanding things. Also, I just got to the level 80 monoliths. Do I just keep going until reaching 100's?

[brittle atlas]

Generally yeah, the goal is to get to empowered monoliths ASAP

Farming in normal is much slower and basically every character should be able to handle baseline empowered monoliths no problem

[tired hill]

Awesome, so at the 100 level then I can sort of target things. Like getting corruption higher to farm specific items and what not

[blazing steeple]

is this dps meter relieble?

[brittle atlas]

Not really

There’s a lot of conditional stuff it can’t account for

[wide sentinel]

are there instances where its actually accurate?

maybe on vengeance

[sharp quartz]

Its best to estimate "real" dps by attacking the dummy in Champions gate or End of Time.

[brittle atlas]

just time how long it takes you to kill the dummy

ez

[ancient kelp]

Has anything been shared how trading will work when multiplayer hits?

[blazing steeple]

can i remove the fire damage over time without destroying the item with anything else than using a chaos glyph on it?

[chrome kiln]

Not 100%. there's a random "removal" rune

[wanton hatch]

Storm Crows kinda squish ATM. I rely on them for healing though. If they die while I'm in Spriggan form, is the only way to get them back to Human Form + Resummon, or stand next to Revive?

[blazing steeple]

ah okey, do i get the shards from that affix that gets removed if i use the rune of removal?

[chrome kiln]

one sec

it says you do, but im not 100% on that either, lol.

[blazing steeple]

ah okey, thanks tho

btw where and when can i forge LP uniques?

[chrome kiln]

You can't, its a dungeon thing

[chrome kiln]

You can't, its a dungeon thing

[wanton hatch]

Temporal Sanctum dungeon - at the end

[buoyant sinew]

or if you mean getting LP on uniques, they randomly drop with LP. you can't add LP to a unique that doesn't have it

[blazing steeple]

thanks 😄

[knotty hull]

ive been trying to kill him since i started the game, is it safe to say my dps is that low?

[brittle atlas]

possibly

[vapid aspen]

did we establish how much hp it has?

Last I remember we thought it was 500m or more

[ocean ravine]

so how do i unlock idol slots on alts that level with the monolith?

[lunar holly]

there's currently no other way than completing the idol quests

[ocean ravine]

so i need to play the story anyways?

[north mist]

Some of it yes

Theres also the +1 all attributes when killing the final boss

[brittle atlas]

I think it's in the 2-4 billion range

[vapid aspen]

ok cool, that lines up pretty well with what I see

[wanton hatch]

What's the logic behind items that the gambler shows? I'm level 53 and it won't show me a Moon Staff (lvl 50)

[buoyant sinew]

the normal gambler doesn't go above level 40 items

[warm yew]

The generic Gambler at end of time is capped at level 40. The soul gambler in Seoul Fire bastion doesn't have a level cap, and can also drop uniques and sets.

[wanton hatch]

Oooo

[chrome kiln]

Hey all, could use a little assistance with a theorycraft build. Paladin Smite with Aurelis. I want to run Multistrike as my primary attack, Warpath for in fight mobility, Lunge for pack to pack and initiating, and Holy Aura for general buffs and damage. I don't know 100% how to gear it out other then the Sword.
I hopped into the TheoryCrafting channel if you would like to help. I appreciate the assistance.

[naive ore]

Hi again, goes masochist mode affect endgame contents or only the campaign ?

[cold plaza]

trying to fit warpath and Multistrike both into your build is going to limit you. Buff skills like Sigils + Volatile Reversal are crazy good.

[chrome kiln]

Well, I'm trying to work a mobility skill into the build for repositioning mid fight. Since I'm relying on Smite as a major damage source and Warpath can proc a Smite every second I assumed it was the best avenue to damage. I can see dropping Lunge for the Reversal so I was going that route. But it's still trying to work in the Void damage into a heavy lightning damage design. I'm building around the sword and leaning into that which informs the skills.

[native sail]

You have no reason to work in void damage, reversal doesn't DO damage

Also, stop bothering with the warpath trigger, you can just scale cast speed on Smite to do far better

[cold plaza]

endgame as well

[chrome kiln]

If I'm following the skill path for Volatile Reversal correct, I path through Incipient Void Rift (a static Void AoE at point of departure), Disintegrate (Void Rift damage), and then Time Rifts. I can ignore the Void damage from the Rift, but I also trigger one on arrival when I path through Terminal Void Rift (a static Void AoE at point of return), into Dark Expanse, and finishing at Harbinger of Dust. Again, I can ignore all the void damage from these and still focus on the primary damage scaling. But cast speed doesn't help Smite mid movement and I'm still planning on Multistrike for primary attack. What am I modding for? Do I scale the Lightning damage for Electrocution or do I mod for elemental damage? Ignore those and scale DoT damage? And why drop Warpath when I could just run Multi, Smite, War, Reversal, and Holy? I'm not seeing how dropping War gets me anything but another open skill spot and then what skill do I put in there. I'm not sure how Sigil's are fitting into the build either. Looking over the tree I get 30% damage and some defense/healing. I can't see 30% being a major contributor unless I'm missing something. And even so, every action not directed at an attack of any kind is a waste without sufficient upside. Reversal brings it with the extra DoT multi and hit Multi but a Sigil cast mid fight seems a waste.

[keen viper]

Cause war is crap as movement skill

It's slower than simply walking as you get 20% less move speed

[native sail]

Warpath is a waste, it's a mana drain with a mediocre proc that can't even reliably keep up your DPS. Sigils are a high cost but the defensive and offensive boosts it will give you are significantly better than the extremely sub-par Warpath shenanigans. Warpath is also not mobility, it's slow and will likely put you closer to death than just walking away.

[keen viper]

Sigils are more of a defense thing for lightning build

800 flat armor is great

[wide sentinel]

volatile reversal+lunge is more mobility than you will ever need

[native sail]

What Misha said

[keen viper]

Not lunge, shield dash or whatever it's called

[native sail]

Shield Rush

[keen viper]

Lunge is useless when you need to get out of aoe

[chrome kiln]

It is, but I'm already prey hard into Def from the passive tree. 7% flat block and a huge amount of flat/increase armor.

[chrome kiln]

thats not bad

[keen viper]

7% flat block isn't hard into

[native sail]

^

[keen viper]

That's like 3 points on tree

[chrome kiln]

okay, swap War for Lunge, which can proc Smite on hit

That works

[keen viper]

Just don't play HC with that

[chrome kiln]

I don't play HC anyways

[keen viper]

Multistrike smite ...

Have fun being disappointed by that tbh

[keen viper]

If you switch to javelin and your sword to unique for it. You will see your electrify DPS at least quintaple

[wanton hatch]

Is it possible to RIP self with Exsanguinous and Twisted Heart?

I know it says "Current Health", but I'm playing on HC and don't want to find out the hard way that it rounds up after getting to 1 HP, or something.

[keen viper]

Unless you also have 0 regen, you shouldn't have to worry

[wanton hatch]

That makes sense.

Still would be cool to find out. If I had the items on softcore I'd test it.

[silk slate]

howdy folks! I was wondering if there are any builds that scale their offense via defensive stats, like a build where stacking more armor gives you more damage, for example.

[keen viper]

Spell VK builds for example

VK spells scale off vitality which also gives you hp

There are or at least were builds scaling of ward

[silk slate]

word, thanks!

[somber dragon]

Would the loot filters that are automatically generated using the lastepochtools site be good enough for a playthrough generally?

[buoyant sinew]

yeah they're alright, except the "t5 class-specific bases for shattering" line is broken and you need to fix it. you'll probably want to make small modifications yourself though, adding stuff you really need (or want to find for other builds), removing all the mediocre items they highlight later on, etc

[somber dragon]

How would I go about fixing that specific rule? I will definitely look into making a custom filter as I go on. I'm playing a totally new class so I don't have the experience to set up a proper filter.

[buoyant sinew]

from memory it's just going into the affix list and deselecting the random things it has selected that aren't class-specific affixes

[somber dragon]

Ah gotcha, thanks!

[buoyant sinew]

the class-specific affixes are separate so it's easy to notice

[summer lagoon]

any tip for farming the bowmage bow? I've killed the boss like 20 times and I always get the helm

[wide sentinel]

what do you mean by tips? the most u can do is stack rarity, but im not even sure if rarity even applies to boss drops in LE

getting to ~200-250 corruption is better so that you can farm more stability

tho its weird since tunklabs says its 50% chance for bow to drop

[nocturne notch]

Is there a wiki or guide for the dungeons, I want to farm a T6 spell crit chance affix

And someone here said the best way to do that was through the right dungeon or smth

[summer lagoon]

That's why I was asking, I'm on low corruption because I want to farm for the axe and belt that drop from orobyss so I'm fighting it as soon as I see one. I guess I'll push for higher corruption.

[wide sentinel]

idk its a weird situation, unless they changed drop rates

[summer lagoon]

No idea, maybe I'm just unlucky

I leveled from mid 70s to 88 doing only that timeline and still hasn't dropped

[stone granite]

A dungeon might increase your odds of getting an exalt, but farming a specific affix is not gonna happen

[austere hound]

@summer lagoon the axe needs at least 50 and the belt 120 corruption. The axe is rather rare I've heard

[summer lagoon]

I got both the axe from orobyss and the bow from cold guy right when I hit 90. I was farming at around 140 corruption, going a bit up and down depending on how far orobyss was.

[frank wasp]

do blessings affect boss drops?

[blazing steeple]

is anyone here experianced in static orb+lightning blast sorc gearing?

im wondering if its worth to use this instead of my current rare armor even if i dont the twisted heart unique yet

this is the current one im using

[dawn otter]

Is it worth hunting for omnividence? Been at it for 5 days and right now currently using this staff. Playing vk devouring orb

[sick yacht]

Omni would probably be a slight dps upgrade and a decent QoL upgrade, but it's very rare. Def a chase item. Depends on how you like to play. If you're getting burnt out grinding it, just do other stuff and do a few runs here or there

[sick yacht]

You should already have maxed crit chance as lightning sorc tbh. Prism wraps are goated for that build

[sick yacht]

yes

[blazing steeple]

i actually get more crit chance from having the prism wraps on the build planner site, prob cause that rare gear got fcked by the forging potential when i crafted it

so it has pretty garbage tiers on it

[sick yacht]

Prism wraps are good because of the 30% less ele dam taken and leech as sorc isnt the easiest.

[frank wasp]

ty

[blazing steeple]

yeah i could use some defensive stuff for sure

just a question, is the build planner site innacurate in some calculations?

cause when i put this amulet into the build, the crit mult doesnt increase

but it should increase by 29% right

[sick yacht]

depends on what you're replacing?

[blazing steeple]

the slot is empty before i put this in

[sick yacht]

that's odd, def sounds bugged

[blazing steeple]

wait holy sht im so stupid

[sick yacht]

it's normally pretty accurate in my experience though

[blazing steeple]

it went from 347 to 374 but i thought it was the same amount cause it had the same numbers lmao

[sick yacht]

lol dyslexics untie!

[timid hemlock]

hello 🙂 is there any way to save progress on the planner online? I put all my equipment on it, but when I try to change the mastery, it says it will delete all equipment

[brittle atlas]

there's a share button on the lefthand side (looks like 3 dots connected) that will generate a link to the current planner setup

changing mastery does dump all of the gear/passives/etc

I assume to prevent anything from conflicting?

[timid hemlock]

good to know! i will try to do mastery first next time

[keen viper]

You shouldn't be running staff in the first place. You are probably using an outdated build guide

[balmy current]

There's nowt wrong with running a staff, he can do it if he wants.

[keen viper]

That's why I'm saying shouldn't. Not can't or may not

And rune dagger can give almost as much damage as staff cause of doubled crit while allowing for equipping bastion or crit offhand for even more crit

[wanton hatch]

Has anyone played a low life Shaman build, using Storm Crows to heal + ward?

[brittle atlas]

you can do it, but it kind of requires snapshotting crows to feel good

since otherwise your crows will die constantly unless you use a ton of affixes to give them survivability

and even then, I'd question it in comparison to an hp-based build that doesn't need all of the ward related investment or crows

[wanton hatch]

yes, this is what I'm noticing. Hvaent even gone LL yet but I have the Crows. They kinda die easily when things start getting tough...

I was going off Lizard's build though and didn't really notice any mention of squishy Crows. So I farmed all the required uniques and am leveling the char now (lvl 67). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xWjMizTicE&ab_channel=LizardIRL

[wanton hatch]

But I am HC and I do like the concept of Low Life damage reduction from passives, and like 14k+ Ward

[blazing steeple]

what does this even mean? cause ive already cleared the timeline

[wanton hatch]

Somewhere in the quest echoes of the timeline is an option to branch off.

Is that stolen lance

[blazing steeple]

do i need to clear those again?

so i can get the other branch

[wanton hatch]

Yeah. the level 58?

Do it and then select the option to unlock the level 66 timeline

after killing the boss.

Unless someone here knows of another way to cheese it, that's how I did it.

[blazing steeple]

ah okey, makes sense

do i need to do that on the lvl 62 area too?

since it has a quest too

i assume i have to, unless both the locked ones are connected to eachother

[wanton hatch]

So, to unlock Empowered Monos, you have to do all 3 level 90 Timelines.
But if you want to do all the quests in the timeline areas, yes you have to do every timeline.

But fastest way to rush to Empowered Monos is just go knock off those 3x level 90

[blazing steeple]

oh wait, then im already done

[wanton hatch]

Go to a timeline, click the monolith, and it will ask if you want to do the default mono or an Empowered Mono

[blazing steeple]

it doesnt tho

is it suposed to be 0/10?

[brittle atlas]

go click on the thing in the middle of the 3 90s

no

[blazing steeple]

this one?

ahh okey gotcha, worked now

[paper elm]

What happens if you put a unique with legendary potential with an exalted item that has repeated mods from the unique? Can they stack or do they get removed from being picked

[brittle atlas]

they can stack

[paper elm]

⚠️

[brittle atlas]

uniques don't have mods in the same way that exalted/rare items do

they're not the same affixes

so they can stack

[paper elm]

Than you

[brittle atlas]

ye idk, once you start getting into empowered content and higher stuff, unless you snapshot crows they will die constantly

they're really squishy compared to other companions even with investment

[wanton hatch]

What would count towards snapshotting? Passives, gear,s and idols?

[brittle atlas]

and without it they're paper

[wanton hatch]

Def paper

they died to cold towers lol

[brittle atlas]

you basically just swap into a bunch of attunement + minion health gear before you summon them

[wanton hatch]

Attunement is nice, yeah...

Health regen

do idols work w/ snapshot? There's Health Regen Effectiveness and Minion CDR

[brittle atlas]

put on your attunement, strength, minion health, minion dodge/regen whatever, minion healing effect idols, etc.

yeah

literally any stat will snapshot on minions

and then you just swap back to normal gear after

[wanton hatch]

That's great. But cheese. Hopefully that's patched soon. But for now, to enjoy the build to the fullest, I may try it.

[brittle atlas]

yeah, it's been an issue for a long time

[wanton hatch]

I remember PoE had that

for a bit.

[brittle atlas]

there are non-minion skills you can do the same thing with

[wanton hatch]

Any BiS snapshotting uniques / set combos that come to mind?

[brittle atlas]

not particularly for crows

but manifest armor has a ton of stuff it can snapshot

[wanton hatch]

So, Crows have a spell that heals. In terms of affixes, there's "Increased Healing Effectiveness", and "Minion Increased Healing Effectiveness". Will both affect me to gain more ward?

and will only the latter affect the crows as they heal each other

[brittle atlas]

only minion

minion increases the healing effect of minions, and the crows are the ones doing the healing

healing effect for you would increase stuff like eterra's blessing

[wanton hatch]

Awesome

I was looking at the skills. You can spec Eterras Blessing to proc when you cast Thorn Shield. It can also cast Healing Totem proc.

I kinda liked that. Instead of Speccing Wolves just for the +1 Companion. But the latter is probably better, especially if snappingshotting and low life ward with Twisted HEart + Exsanguinous.

[midnight knot]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/death-wave-soul-feast-lich-build-guide-0-8-4g/47628 Eyo, got a question. This build claims to gain insane amounts of armor from using Soul Feast on poisoned enemies. Does this Effect stack with itself, or why is it claimed to be so strong? I kinda don't get it otherwise, seems like enemies would die way too fast in monos for the poison to stack up high naturally via death wave and the like. Am I missing sth?

Ah nvm it does say "per stack" so getting lotsa poison -> Soul Feast stacks a buff that just goes more and more ham. Nvm me!

[brittle atlas]

yeah

soul feast will easily cap you on armor

[cold plaza]

It's actually insane. I don't expect 0.9 to fix this, but maybe some sub patch

[blazing steeple]

are set pieces even worth keeping for lategame?

cause i dont see any lategame build that uses them, feels like a lvling piece only

[daring garden]

Can we drop uniques that requires other class to use?

Case: is it possible to Rogue drop the "Herald of the Scurry" unique as its require Primalist to use

[blazing steeple]

yes u can

[buoyant sinew]

is this better than a 1lp apathy's? probably would be looking at void cleave/erasing strike

[brittle atlas]

That's pretty solid, might have to test it? I'd guess that 1lp apathy w/ flat crit is better on anything that lives long enough to get to 4 doom stacks

the more damage from doom is pretty hard to beat on a lot of melee builds

[paper elm]

What are the differences in the different difficulty levels of the legendary potential dungeon?

[brittle atlas]

bigger modifiers to drops, enemy hp, enemy damage

and the ability to forge higher required level legendaries

[buoyant sinew]

can also get doom from siphon though right? is that just not enough chance? or is the doom effect on apathy's a big deal? 8% damage doesn't feel massive

[paper elm]

oh depending on the legendary I need a harder dungeon? ugh

[brittle atlas]

yeah, most can be done in tier 2 or 3 though

only the highest level stuff needs T4

[buoyant sinew]

I may indeed just make the build and test which is better...

[brittle atlas]

doom is 16% more damage

[buoyant sinew]

I know, I was referring to 8% from the 50% doom effect on apathy's

[brittle atlas]

ah, 8% more damage is potentially enough to offset using a sword, yeah

the differences between most weapons isn't that big

keep in mind a maw can be up to 220 flat as well

[buoyant sinew]

yeah

I suppose I also do actually have to land the flat crit on it though

not exactly guaranteed 😄

[brittle atlas]

yeah

also the leech rate on maw is pretty nice too

[buoyant sinew]

yeah

okay thanks for the help, I'm just going to go for it and see what comes out best

[brittle atlas]

you could take the time to spreadsheet it out too and figure out what works out as better

based off different planners or w/e

using each weapon

[buoyant sinew]

given that I'm making the build regardless, I'm going to hope that dummy is enough and I don't have to go to the effort 😄

[brittle atlas]

makes sense

[blazing steeple]

yo can someone tell me if set items are good lategame

cause i dont want to have a whoe stash tab of something that ill never use

[buoyant sinew]

most of them are pretty weak lategame at the moment, though there are a small number of exceptions

[desert tree]

Hi guys, does yulia's path add the necrotic tag to maelstrom?

[blazing steeple]

so a small amount of them is used for endgame builds?

[buoyant sinew]

EHG have mentioned that they want to buff set items though, so might be worth holding them for that (though it's not likely to be soon)

[buoyant sinew]

yeah

[blazing steeple]

ah okey, well multiplayer comes soon anyways so there is no point in holding them on singleplayer for me now that i think about it

[buoyant sinew]

also fair

[tribal dagger]

can salt the wounds only drop from eye of the storm echoes?

or it just has an increased chance to drop it

[north mist]

Neither really

Ending the storm has "unique or set gloves" echoes that 100% drop a glove

[tribal dagger]

yeah after doing eye of the storm for like 3 days i only got one of those

and it dropped gloves ive had many of already

[north mist]

The higher corruption you do the more of them (and other rare echoes) you find

[tribal dagger]

0.1%

seriously

jesus christ

is it locked to this specifc echo or can it also drop randomly everywhere else?

[north mist]

It can drop anywhere

And i hope youve been farming empowered monoliths and not non-empowered ones

[brittle atlas]

^

[tribal dagger]

non-empowered lmao

im not strong enough lol

[brittle atlas]

yeah, not worth farming unempowered at all

[tribal dagger]

im doing blade dancer

[brittle atlas]

you should be able to do empowered without them no problem

[north mist]

Well ye, ofc youre not getting anything when youre basically farming the extended campaign

[tribal dagger]

not even lvl 100 yet

[brittle atlas]

you should be in empowered around level 70-75

[tribal dagger]

i dunno

i'm just afraid ill be too squishy

im damage numbers don't seem too good

my*

[brittle atlas]

idk, if you're feeling super squishy or bad damage is almost certainly something w/ skills and passives or like super foundational stuff on gear

the bar to do empowered is super low and pretty easy to clear even in really bad gear

[brittle atlas]

what's your defenses tab looks like

biggest thing that sticks out to me is all of your resists being capped before empowered

means you've probably got way too much resist on gear

[north mist]

Seems like you prioritized resistances way more than health

[brittle atlas]

and is why your hp is so low

[brittle atlas]

yeah and no endurance at all

and no crit avoidance

[tribal dagger]

im running corsair helmet+shield

[brittle atlas]

corsair shield is bad

use a regular shield

helm is fine for bleed builds

[tribal dagger]

converts all glancing blows to block chance

[brittle atlas]

yeah

big downgrade

you want both high glancing and decent block

giving up all of one is a net loss

[tribal dagger]

i was basically following this guys build https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/0oN2LX9o

[north mist]

glancing blow is 35% reduction, with just the shields base block effectiveness it only blocks about 30% (at area lvl 100)

[tribal dagger]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/bladedancer-corsair-set-bleed-umbral-blades-guide-0-8-5-100-block-3-million-dps-face-tank-t4-julra/49558

[brittle atlas]

using the shield is a complete trap

everything else seems pretty stock standard

except no endurance

is weird af

I'd probably change the spirits of fire blessing to endurance or flat armor

and then pick up endurance % on rings

to get 60%

relatively low investment and it will nearly double your EHP

oh

drop apostacy too

trap passive

take Death's Door as well

[north mist]

Eh, not always a trap like the shield

[brittle atlas]

on a bladedancer, apostacy is basically always a trap

unless you're doing dusk shrouds on being hit stuff

and need to be hit

but if you're not trying to build a 0 avoidance build for that specific use, having some dodge and some glancing is better than just capped glancing

for monolith defenses

[north mist]

Ye on average having the dodge is better

[tribal dagger]

damn is there a good build planner i can follow that won't screw me over and doesn't require too much in terms of uniques?

[north mist]

Just like on average the difference between 90% crit avoidance and 100% isnt a lot, but in rare cases that 10% missing will kill you

[brittle atlas]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/5Q0VmYGo

there's the few tweaks I'd make

that'll give you 31%+ shrouds glancing blow, 100% block, some dodge, 60% endurance, and Death's Door low life DR

[tribal dagger]

man

i've had bastion of honour and for some reason i can't find it

[north mist]

Youve probably had the other bastion shield

[tribal dagger]

any of these useful?

[desert tree]

Hi guys, does yulia's path add the necrotic tag to maelstrom?

[brittle atlas]

yes

[minor kindle]

@north mist @brittle atlas The set is not a trap and Apostacy is required because the GB converted from it is not converted to block chance twice, so you can get 100% block chance and GB chance at the same time, which means at least two 35% damage reductions instead of one

[woven fulcrum]

the two set shields are used in very specific builds
you could probably look them up on lastepochtools
same with the fire shield
if the other stuff doesn't have LP on it than they're most likely best saved for levelling gear.

[frank wasp]

with throne of ambition
is it like PoE where hit means something specific?
or is it when you damage an enemy with a thing you gain a stack

[north mist]

That seems very much like a bug then, but ye if thats how it works sure

[buoyant sinew]

it's the same as PoE in that a hit means "not damage over time"

[minor kindle]

nah, if you search it, you will find a devs answer that confirm it

In devs channel

[north mist]

Bruh why would it convert only some of your glancing blows

Then they should change the tooltip

[brittle atlas]

but you don't get dodge right?

whereas w/ bastion you'll have dodge and higher block effect

and the only downside is you'll sometimes not block a distant enemy, which is rarely a big issue in my experience

since if you're focusing on corruption pushing you care less about 1 shots and more about average DR when you take a bunch of smaller hits at once

and you'll almost never be taking all of those hits from outside of Bastion range

[minor kindle]

This set is at the root of the damage bonus of the offhand weapon at the cost of the original RNG defense dodge into a stable damage reduction block, which is a relatively large boost to the one-shot EHP. But if you think dodge can also be as good as blocking to protect you from boss fights, then the set will indeed look like a trap, at least not to me

[frank wasp]

How are the spirit wolves on swipe on a minion build?

[brittle atlas]

I don't feel like defense matters on like 99% of boss fights in LE

you can avoid almost all remotely threatening damage

[minor kindle]

yep, bastion is OP but also too rare

[brittle atlas]

and you don't need that much defense to tank the non-threatening damage

I feel like on boss fights I'd almost always sacrifice defense for more damage, with only a few exceptions

like twilight arbor boss

[minor kindle]

the set shield is almost a secondary substitution to bastion

[cold plaza]

The Corsair Set doesnt exist. The Corsair helmet is sweet, but the shield is awful

[brittle atlas]

my original setup for ailment flurry a few patches back was pretty well built around that idea- putting on a shield for echoes

going dual wield for bosses

and swapping stuff like a rare belt for vipertail

etc

[minor kindle]

That's more like a different concept of play? I always like to tank boss without any manual dodge if i have enough dps

[brittle atlas]

swapping off bleeding heart for a pure damage neck

I guess? I feel like if I can kill a boss faster and just play better I'd prefer to go that route

like especially once I've done a boss a few times

and start to get more familiar with it

once I no longer need the safety net of more defense I'll trade it out for damage

especially for things like say...heorot or lagon or julra or cremosus where more damage will let you skip invuln phases or most mechanics

[vapid aspen]

skipping phases also just feels so good

[acoustic thicket]

Exists a limit to the tabs besides your gold reserve?
Can i get, virtually, get infinity tabs?

[marsh maple]

there is a limit but its expansive I think

[acoustic thicket]

expansive?

[marsh maple]

I think its like 999 or something

[acoustic thicket]

okey 🙂

i think i'll have tabs for a hughe time

[midnight knot]

To unlock empowered monos, do I need to do all Timelines?

Or just get to the high level ones?

[blazing steeple]

are there some cosmetics in the game yet?

cause it says most are not in the game, that should mean that some are

[native sail]

I think nothing other than the pets from supporter packs

[sharp quartz]

Ultimately all you need is to complete the three level 90 monolith timelines to unlock empowered lvl 100 versions. How you get to the level 90s is up to you - and no you dont need to complete all possible paths to level 90.

[blazing steeple]

is there any hints on droprate and rarity of uniques on the wiki?

[sharp quartz]

No cosmetics yet.

[midnight knot]

I see, interesting. Thank you!

[native sail]

AFAIK the estimation on boss drop "rares" is somewhere around 5-15%

[blazing steeple]

oof

alr thanks

[sharp quartz]

Watch out for using the wiki. Not all parts are updated. The community game guide on the forum or the in-game guide are usually better.

Drop rates are hard to quantify exactly. You can get rough ideas from lastepochtools and on tunks various simulators https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/uniquesim

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ascsim

[icy snow]

Hello good people what you all think about merging two exalted items in to one with some cost? Like random affix losing a tier and/or final product having a 0 cp.

[sharp quartz]

Besides being the USP of current legendary crafting, what benefit would this allow? Beyond the obvious of providing a workaround for the drop rates of exalted items with more than 2 exalted tiers. Do we really need this?

[icy snow]

Do we really need this? Absuletly not. But question is do we want it?

Considering current power level of items this wouldnt be huge jump and a nice way to gamble your way in to feels good gear. Or maybe just an extra pressure on players to min max?

[blazing steeple]

wait does this count as the final boss of the timeline?

[dry narwhal]

no

if you mean orobyss

if you mean the 3rd quest "The Rotting Hoard" then yes

[sharp quartz]

Honestly, I dont think we need it.

Its likely (thanks to LizardIRL) that the devs are gonna rebalance skill & gear to make gear more meaningful overall wrt to skill performance so I am not sure that adding another way to make better gear will be neccessary at this stage.

I definitely wouldnt want there to be an easier way to "make" exalted items with multiple T6/7 affixes. Those are pretty much the chase items in the game right now. Its easier to find Uniques with LP than Exalted items with the correct affixes. Considering the boost in the T6/7 affix ranges over T5, this could potentially make for supremely OP items that could still be used to make legendaries. Even with penalties for the gamble in place.

[blazing steeple]

can you decreese corruption in some way?

[dry narwhal]

Yes actually

Orobyss fights that are closer to center can say -number corruption

[blazing steeple]

ah i see

[dry narwhal]

So you give up your current web to do it but you can

[blazing steeple]

the gaze of corruption stacks will increase the corruption gained next time u kill orobyss right

[dry narwhal]

Ya

[blazing steeple]

do they multiply the negative corruption gained too? or do they just make that one go from negative to + gained corruption instead

[dry narwhal]

I think it just plus

[blazing steeple]

ah okey, thanks for the info!

[dry narwhal]

But never tried

[austere hound]

@blazing steeplethe bonus from gaze doesn't apply when you decrease corruption, only if you increase it

[vestal heart]

when is multiplayer Coming out

[lunar holly]

no date announced yet

[minor vigil]

mid september xd

[timid hemlock]

is there a way to get to "The age of winter" timeline more quickly? or are the paths opened in the same manor always?

[balmy current]

The right-hand side monoliths are generally preferred since they give player power (rather than "economic" bonuses such as drop rate increases), that would give 4 timelines to do rather than 5 if you go the left hand route.

[timid hemlock]

ah okay thank you. So I went from fall of the outcasts to the stolen lance. Can i get from stolen lance to ending the storm to age of winter? or do i need to goto the black sun?

[balmy current]

At that point, you might as well carry on up the left-hand path if you just want to get to Age of Winter the fastest. Unless you've already unlocked Black Sun (in which case you'd be doing the same number of timelines)

Stolen Lance only leads on to Blood, Frost & Death, though BFD unlocks Fall of the Empire & I think Reign of Dragons?

And Reign of Dragons is the one you need to do to unlock Age of Winter.

[timid hemlock]

okay, so left side of stolen lance, right sidef of BFD and right sdide of reign?

[balmy current]

Yeah

[timid hemlock]

thank you for the help 😄

[balmy current]

When you get to the first quest echo of BFD, make sure you choose the Wengari clan that unlocks the higher level mono (can't remember which clan it is, just scroll through the conversation options & select the one that gives you the lvl 85 mono)

[knotty hull]

good afternoon

+70% critical strike multiplier or +43 flat damage

(on a 100% crit chance build)

which is greater? share your opinion

[north mist]

Probably the flat unless youve got tons of flat from elsewhere, but unless you have lots of different procs/effects that affect your crit chance or multi you could probably just compare the tooltip numbers

[knotty hull]

ohh the tooltip

how dumb i am

i dont have tons of flat elsewhere, lets see

[knotty hull]

the flat wins by a lot

my problem with crafting is that i couldnt remove the garbage affix

now i have to live with it

[north mist]

Well ye, just assuming no other stats youre comparing 70 flat * 328% multi ~=230 and 113 flat * 251%multi ~= 282

And since you probably have more crit multi elsewhere compared to flat it should just increase the difference

[knotty hull]

true, true

huge thanks amigo

[umbral flame]

hey guys, i just did my first lootfilter and the build im going for runs a fair amount of uniques so i almost hide everything, is this normal that i dont really see items now? am i just used to the loot garbage in poe? should i just go for 1 affix early or is it okay to filter for 2-3?

im also solo challenge so i hide alt items too

[tribal dagger]

man im getting shredded in empowered monoliths in random whims

and i seriously can't understand why i haven't got a damn uniqe drop from mobs in the past 45 min, shouldn't empowered monoliths have some sort of increased chance?

[knotty hull]

you can make the filter show all uniques/exalted/set items. all i can say

mine looks like this

[umbral flame]

well mine looks kinda similar i did the show things too ill see how it goes

[knotty hull]

hmm id say this rule: ''with at least 2 of these affixes'' is too strict

you know

i would only use when searching for a gg item

[umbral flame]

im looking for only 4 rares rest is unique so i went with 2 affix and 3 for boots, but that might be an overkill yeah

[knotty hull]

yes also because you can craft around the 1 good affix

[umbral flame]

i always forget that i can just craft items

[north mist]

Make sure to not hide exalteds though, because even if you use uniques you want exalteds (and thus also the shards to craft the exalted items)

[gleaming token]

I'm currently trying to build a bladedancer, currently have a poison flurry build. I'll switch to another build later, I was using this for levelling, but I've noticed that the main story bosses are quite rough

I've died like 6 times to one boss already, and I just tried a monolith and I can do monoliths

I was wondering if I should farm monoliths a little for gear then continue story?

Because there's no way I can kill this boss, super rough for a squishy melee

I get oneshot with a tight window to dash away

I mean most of the gear from monoliths are level 55+ range to equip but I did get some gear for my level too

Monoliths are going good, I already got a bunch of gear upgrades and I feel I'll just level a bunch then continue main quest

[nimble moth]

Does the MoM (mana before life) effect protect Ward as well or only HP?

[cold plaza]

Only hp. There is a node in FW that makes it affect ward

[nimble moth]

FW?

[cold plaza]

Flame ward

[nimble moth]

oh Flame Ward, thats only for the duration of that skill right?

[cold plaza]

Yee, and only a tiny bit. I've never used it, even in a mom build

Esp because I'm often using a Fractured Crown

[nimble moth]

darn thats unfortunate, I hope they expand on mana options more

[north mist]

The damage to mana is already strong, as its effectively a 80% dr for X% of the damage you take

And you can stack it with endurance, giving even more damage reduction

[young hearth]

anyone have any good suggestions on sentinel forge build?

[nimble moth]

Which kind, one where you do damage or minion?

[young hearth]

where i do damage

[buoyant sinew]

I've been trying to investigate a forge strike build that's self damage but it's so hard to get around forge strike's massive mana cost

even with t6 regen on every possible slot you can't sustain it

[nimble moth]

you could try a Multistrike build to get around the mana cost with the mana sustain it brings

[young hearth]

would void or paladin be better?

[nimble moth]

but the range for the true melee on that skill is kinda meh

[nimble moth]

Forgemaster isnt amazing atm, and theres a few void/pally builds that are just broken.... so to answer yes, but I wouldnt base what you try on what performs best, especially if your just starting to play. Play something that sounds interesting before you ruin your perspective with what you could be doing xD

like I did with bowmage... wtf this thing is unfair... and boring

[young hearth]

thanks, ill just keep messing around for now then

[blazing steeple]

last epochtools is up-to date right?

just making sure that im not looking at an outdated site and farm thw wrong mono haha

[native sail]

It is yeah, dammit is in this server, you can ping them if you really need to

[timid hemlock]

if i wanted to use a rune of ascendance on an item, what are the specifics i need? for example, i want reign of winter bow. It's a longbow and req lvl 70. So I'm assuming I need a longbow, but does the ilvl of it matter? does the longbow have to drop in the Age of Winter timeline for it to become a reign of winter?

[native sail]

Base doesn't matter it just has to be a bow.

[buoyant sinew]

level doesn't matter for runes of ascendance, but you can't get boss-specific drops from it

it can only make uniques that drop randomly

[native sail]

Ascendance does not care about base type or level of anything. It rolls it randomly for a non-boss drop unique as if it were dropping in a level 100 area

[timid hemlock]

ohhh so then i couldnt get a reign of winter? because it says it's dropped from Heorot

[buoyant sinew]

correct

you have to farm it

[timid hemlock]

ahh okay thank you for the help!

[native sail]

It's fairly common drop from him afaik so it shouldn't be too hard to get

[timid hemlock]

awesome. not at age of winter yet, but getting close 🙂

[north mist]

ye its a 50% drop, so shouldnt take too long

[frank wasp]

depends on the tier
with the tiering i have in my rule its not strict enough honestly

[dry narwhal]

there was a guy in here that ran that mono so many times and couldn't get the bow, think he was 100 or almost by the time he got it

i also ran the blood and frost mono 20 times in a row to attempt to get boots, never got them on that character

[woven fulcrum]

took me over 30 to get those boots. but they're marked as rare if memory serves so....100 for Reign of Winter is some terrrrible RNG though.

[dry narwhal]

i got them perfect rolled on the first run on a character that didn't need them

[woven fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/thorobr-rng-fire-elmo-gif-14506283

[austere hound]

Are blessings like increased glove drop rate affecting boss drops? So if a boss has gloves in their pool are they more likely to drop?

[native sail]

Yes

[minor kindle]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[acoustic thicket]

the ~~globals ~~ node tree is expanding more and more XD
There's a limit?

[sharp quartz]

Yes. you will eventually start finding Orobyss Echo Nodes that allow you to fight a boss that increases (or decreases) Corruption & resets the monolith "web".

they look like https://i.imgur.com/wXihIh6.png

[acoustic thicket]

Okey. Search and destroy bosses.
What's corruption?

[sharp quartz]

Corruption is an infinitely scaling difficulty modifier that you can get in Monoliths (not worth worrying about until Empowered Monoliths tho) . Corruption increases item rarity, experience gained, monster health, monster damage, and how much Timeline Stability each Echo gives.

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/community-game-guide/26057

[paper elm]

Does this affect dots applied with puncture or only the hit damage?

[sharp quartz]

Without testing to be 100%, I am pretty sure its only the hit damage.

[paper elm]

Is there like

a general rule to know what will apply to my dots and what wont?

because I will be having this question a lot :P

like this for example

Sounds like it shouldn't but the nodes are leading to a bleed passive so maybe it does?

[paper elm]

Or like, the skill % damage from dexterity

[solid tartan]

https://i.imgur.com/TCEPz3h.png
https://i.imgur.com/bfNFbcv.png

Does anyone know if these two scale together?

Subjugation increases the general damage of Infernal per second it's active, but does that affect the explosion of combustion? Because the damage increase per second isn't damage-per-second type specific it should provide the damage bonus to combustion right?

[paper elm]

I recorded the damage numbers on the dummy and it seems like it does indeed work for bleed

[austere hound]

Did you test both nodes you showed? I'm curious

[paper elm]

only lethal cadence

I tried this and didnt work

so maybe more doesnt work but increased does

would be weird but

[austere hound]

Definitely something to improve, to make it clear what applies to ailments and what doesn't

[paper elm]

I dont know how to test the dexterity thing tho

I guess get a bunch of items with just dex affixes

and test with and without them

[austere hound]

According to the game guide attributes should apply:

Each damaging ailment, such as Bleed or Ignite, has a fixed base damage, but is affected by damage modifiers from the skill tree and attribute scaling of the skill that applies it.

Could be that the examples that don't work on puncture are bugged. For the charge up it makes kinda sense as the bottom line says bow damage

For cadence of death it doesn't make sense tho

[stone granite]

Attributes apply to the skill, not generically to ailments

The skill might scale ailments

[austere hound]

Ye when the attribute scales dmg of the skill it also applies to ailments inflicted by the skill right? I guess that doesn't apply to flat dmg just increased

[stone granite]

Increases to bow damage means nothing to ailments

It has to specify

[austere hound]

But punctures dex scaling isn't bow damage

It's generic damage

[stone granite]

It should probably

[paper elm]

Then why does the more damage from cadence not work

It just says generic more damage

[austere hound]

Either description is wrong or it's a bug, you should make a bug report

[paper elm]

[stone granite]

Lethal shouldn't, but death probably should

The amount of damage an attack does shouldn't affect the ailments though

[austere hound]

Haha so it's the other way around, the description implies the opposite behavior

[austere hound]

Well but there are nodes where the dmg increases the hit and the ailment right

[paper elm]

Idk man this is just really frustrating