❔┃ask-the-community

[vapid aspen]

To clarify what that is talking about

You can put 15 points into shaman

And unlock the earthquake skill. you can then put that skill in a spec slot

[brave ibex]

I'm aware, but that's clearly not the same as a system where Locust Swarm gets a damage boost when you start rampaging

[pearl plank]

it is though, theyre both caused by the same thing

[brave ibex]

How is that the same thing?

[vapid aspen]

Not at all

Its the same word used to describe two totally different things

[brave ibex]

You're just saying its the same, because Lizard calls it "snapshotting EQ" in his post

But it's not the same system at all

[pearl plank]

the way the game snapshots abilities, causes both problems

[vapid aspen]

aod snapshotting is more similar

since that is a combination of both

[brave ibex]

Please tell me how your solution of "cancel abilities when you swap gear" fixes the EQ issue

[pearl plank]

you can just have it despecialize once you dont have the necesary points in the tree to cast it

[brave ibex]

So a different solution

For a different problem

[pearl plank]

yep

[brave ibex]

Lol

[pearl plank]

i said in the beginning it would need a specific exception for each skill

[minor kindle]

I feel like the point of solving the problem of abusing snapshot is the abuse rather than the snapshot itself...
The snapshot itself is not absolutely good or bad, many mechanics in arpg games need it for better handling, and removing it completely will only cause more other problems (although I don't know exactly what the problem is in LE)

So avoiding abuse may be the possible future for snapshot.

[vapid aspen]

A big part of this is performance

[brave ibex]

And this is completely ridiculous to suggest in the first place. Even in the example you just gave, now new players who respec their VK tree lose all their levels

[vapid aspen]

Swarm strike can do its checking of stats a single time and store the value

imagine if it needed to check all of your stats every single frame (because it is a dot, not tick based damage skill)

removing snapshotting of skills like you suggest would mean that every skill needs to be constantly checking

it is a problem that can be solved, but its not cheap and its not easy

[pearl plank]

true, i guess that wouldnt work

its a shame and a big damage loss but for performance like you said i guess it wouldnt be practical

[vapid aspen]

yeah I mean there are a few skills where maybe it would make sense to dynamically update stats but those are almost all channelling skills so they already do it

[rancid minnow]

This is the main point to be taken away from this whole discussion.

Even if you guys disagree with what is or isn't snapshotting, just realize that in some cases snapshotting is bad and in some it is good. Abuse cases should be looked at, and prevented.

Boys, try to find common ground rather than fighting on issues like these.

[minor kindle]

A question about how to define "abuse" 👀

[pearl plank]

No fighting, just discussing as intended

[vapid aspen]

Thats the fun part

[safe harness]

Minion snapshot is abuse

[minor kindle]

fair

[rancid minnow]

Fair, I guess my main issue is with @stone granite going around throwing poop emojis on your stuff :D

[pearl plank]

Well, we can't all be adults can we

[vapid aspen]

Hopefully I didnt come off too rude. I do systems programming and design in games as my day job so its really clear to me when things like this can cause tons of issues. LE took the approach of making it consistent across skills which while it does cause some weirdness at times is by far the lesser of evils imo.

[pearl plank]

Well, everyone here gets extremely defensive when you try to criticize the game so i knew what i saw getting into

[rancid minnow]

Nah, you are chill.

[deep rover]

can i get aurelis from rune of ascendancy?

[brave ibex]

Yep

[deep rover]

ok thx

[balmy current]

The only uniques you can't are the boss-specific & quest-specific drops.

[balmy current]

No, generally channelling skills snapshot as well.

[woven fulcrum]

If you check out https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ you can even see simulations of what you can get.

[vapid aspen]

That doesn't really make sense though, there would be a lot of channelling skills with nodes that just flat out do nothing if they ignored all stat changes

so they need to be at least partly dynamic

[brittle atlas]

it depends on the skill

like attack skills generally don't snapshot attack speed

though they used to

and it took old eye of reen + tempest/warpath/whatever the cyclone skill is called now to get it changed

but something like channeled flurry would snapshot Coated Blades

or Chronostasis

[prisma sleet]

anyone have a basic filter? like for when you start a new character or even a new player?

[brittle atlas]

I'd check the forums for Heavy's stuff

[stone granite]

No such thing

You build a filter for your specific build

[brittle atlas]

he has filter templates/skeletons

that you can work off of

[stone granite]

Best to do it yourself so you understand how it works and how to adapt it

[prisma sleet]

it's called i dont have a specific build in mind completely yet. and i had removed all filters and it seemed like only gold and potions were showing up

[brittle atlas]

I think his post also has written guidelines for like rule ordering and stuff maybe? also some video guides on yt for stuff like that too

[sonic kraken]

Yeah personally I used Heavy's filters and modified them as needed

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-8-5b-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v2-8/25176

[stone granite]

The entire point of a filter is to only show what fits your build

You always have a general idea of something

[brittle atlas]

or stuff for your next build or multiple builds that interest you if you want to highlight various things

like idols especially imo

[prisma sleet]

yes but when you're only level 3 and trying to learn/relearn the game, a basic loot filter could help. my problem was it was seeming to hide everything from me

[brittle atlas]

wouldn't want to miss a juicy mage idol while you're playing something else

[stone granite]

I'm trying to make sure you understand... the filter only works if you already know what you want to see

Otherwise there's no point in any kind of filter

[prisma sleet]

that's my point. i dont know what i want as of yet

[stone granite]

Then don't use a filter

[prisma sleet]

i havent played in close to a year or so, and so i wiped everything and am starting from sratch

[sonic kraken]

Don't argue with this guy. He's just a troll

[stone granite]

Maybe you are used to PoE but you don't use filters in this game like that

[sonic kraken]

As I and Arborus said before Heavy's filters are a good base so you can use them

[stone granite]

You build them to show you what you want to see

So you have to have an idea of what you want to see

You don't really need a filter at lvl 3 anyway

[vapid aspen]

If you want something like... stupid stupid generic I can share mine

[stone granite]

I usually don't make a filter till like lvl 20

[prisma sleet]

this is my point. i was trying to see stuff but it's almost like the game was refusing to show any gear at all

[stone granite]

If you have no filter setup then nothing is hidden unless you pressed the hide all button

[prisma sleet]

saying i'm a troll or soemone else?

[vapid aspen]

We're all trolls really

[sonic kraken]

No. I was talking about @stone granite

[prisma sleet]

feels like it. just asking for general help and feeling like i just got a get rekt answer for most of this

[stone granite]

And if you want a guide on how to make a filter quickly, I have a youtube video on how I do it

[sonic kraken]

Yeah he's the type of a cynical kid that will call you a noob for not knowing the game as a new player

[prisma sleet]

are these the most current versions

[sonic kraken]

Yep

[brittle atlas]

085f is the current patch, but for the most part I don't think anything has changed filter-wise for quite a bit

[prisma sleet]

i feel like i'm kind of a new player again because of being away so long

forging is completely different

[brittle atlas]

yeah, there was a big crafting change in...084? or 085? can't remember if the change came with legendaries or not

probably 084?

[sonic kraken]

084 was the crafting rework

When they removed all the "feels bad" moments with fractures

[prisma sleet]

when i last played they had just overhauled the end game timeline things and the final boss was still the cthulu looking guy in the underwater area

[brittle atlas]

ah yeah

probably 083?

so like probably a year and a half ago?

[prisma sleet]

something like that

[stone granite]

The current last boss is significantly more challenging but I think most people don't bother and just go to monoliths

[sonic kraken]

Yeah the game evolved quite a bit over time. It's a little slow now due to MP being the main focus but I imagine that after MP drops we'll start seeing more content

[brittle atlas]

honestly, since she got nerfed I feel like most builds can probably easily cheese majasa now

since you can still cull her to skip phase 2

[prisma sleet]

i got the notice about mp and came back to try things out

me and my brother got this because it seemed really cool but then found out no mp yet. we both fell off after a while but i always planned on coming back. games like this tend to evolve over time and le is still in early access or beta. not even 1.0 patch so it has a lot of potential

[brittle atlas]

yeah, been playing for a bit over 4 years now and its been fun to see the evolution

[prisma sleet]

always is

so apparently i had heavy's 081 filters in my folders

so maybe the last time i played was around the 0.8.1 update lol

had an old filter for a 200 flame mage build too

[vapid aspen]

I would share my filter but it crashed discord when I tried to paste it. Apparently it's 13122 lines. Nice.

[brave ibex]

Has anyone tested if this gets triggered from ailments applied by Multistrike?

[proven dune]

thanks, I saw that. Just wondering about inventory tab as running back to the town is always such a hassle. Grimdawn has that and even diablo 2 gives you up to 5 tabs in the inventory by the end game, if I remembered correctly.

And yeah I know about filter but that is not what I am looking for though

Thanks for the answer!

[balmy current]

No, D2 only ever gave you 1 tiny inventory. If you remember there being more that was probably from a mod

[brittle atlas]

in general, you just loot less in LE since vendoring for gold isn't really a thing, as vendor sale prices are exceptionally low.

so you just don't loot things unless they're immediately useful to wear or shatter or as crafting bases

[sonic kraken]

You don't really want to pick up trash to vendor for money. The devs intentionally set the sell prices really low to prevent people from wasting their time on this. Only uniques are actually worth anything but the majority of your money will come from gold drops and extra stash tabs don't cost too much unless you are hoarding absolutely everything you shouldn't have a problem with space. The game is really generous with the loot so you can rest assured that you won't miss out on anything if you don't pick up everything

[shrewd rampart]

arena keys are still good for vendoring 🙂

[prisma sleet]

does on hit apply to minions?

[minor kindle]

what on hit

[safe harness]

unless it says minion, then no

[prisma sleet]

how do we get these other pets? no access yet due to cosmo store not being here?

[stone granite]

Some pets are available to people that bought packs, but they don't work really well yet

[barren pagoda]

I just unlocked a level 95 monoliths area and I’m still killing everything instantly with no risk of dying, is there a way to make them harder but more loot/exp?

[shrewd rampart]

corruption?

also, level 95 monolith isnt a thing.

[dire mist]

lvl 95 is 50 corruption on the lvl 90s

[barren pagoda]

I mean the area, I forgot what it’s called. Timeline?

It started at 58 then I got 65, 75, 85, 90

[minor kindle]

unlock the empowered timeline

[barren pagoda]

How, just keep progressing through the timelines?

[barren pagoda]

Like this

[shrewd rampart]

do the 3 level 90 timelines

[barren pagoda]

Ah

Thx

[shrewd rampart]

then in the middle click the contraption

[barren pagoda]

Kk

Thx

One more question lel, is there anything to spend gold on besides stash tabs (someone told me that’s the only thing in global chat)

The gambling npcs in the towns, at least when I checked a few times tonight, only had garbage bases

[shrewd rampart]

Lightless arbor

[oak iris]

does it make sense to pick up all exalted items? I have full stash tab of them and idk how to use them. Do people use them for shards too?

[shrewd rampart]

I'm going to sleep, so I'll let someone else explain it

[barren pagoda]

Kk lmao

Thx

[shrewd rampart]

Not really...

No sense in picking them ALL up I mean

[oak iris]

okay but I see loot filters generally always show them

uniques too

[brave ibex]

Yeah, because you should mouse over them to see if they are any good, not just pick them all up

[oak iris]

are there no special monolith rewards before empowered?

I am doing lvl 90 monoliths and the rewards are the same as lvl 58

[minor kindle]

reward nodes? or something else

[oak iris]

I think when I watched videos about endgame it shown like you can get some specific items or item types in each monolith or idk. Like it was different for each monolith, for me the monoliths are the same

[native sail]

Specific monoliths do have nodes for specific rewards however those nodes are far more common in empowered monoliths than they are in normal ones

[oak iris]

is it worth to save web reset until I get to empowered or it doesnt matter?

[balmy current]

The empowered versions are different webs

[oak iris]

do I need to complete both regular and empowered to get full monolith completion? I am at 9/20 and just unlocked empowered. Theres 1 monolith I didnt do yet.

[minor kindle]

Doesn't make sense for now

[oak iris]

Also this part is only active after empowered?

[balmy current]

No

That's referring to specific nodes that give those rewards

They're more likely to occur on your echo web in empowered monos though

[oak iris]

oh okay cause I did not see this in the UI before

[balmy current]

Yeah, they're one of the rarer nodes, but not quite as rare as the vessels of memory/chaos.

[deft arrow]

How would i improve this build going forward except of course capping res and crit avoid?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/5Q0Vg43o

[brittle atlas]

Put health on your gear

You’ve dodged every possible health affix

Prioritize resists less

[deft arrow]

Alright I am not dying in level 85 zones so far which seems good

Still some mobs hurt quite a bit

I like how far i have gotten while dodging life on gear tbh, its my first real endgame build so i am still figuring things out

[deft arrow]

But thank you for the help 😄

[brittle atlas]

for the most part, things won't feel particularly dangerous until you've gotten into the level 100 empowered content, but may a well prepare as you get closer

it's generally ok to be undercapped on resists in LE, because their impact is far less than in games like PoE

getting the increased health affixes on helm, chest, belt, gloves, boots is a really big boost in effective health

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gWE6xW8Xlw

[deft arrow]

Thank you

[frank wasp]

what masteries make good use of scaling ward?

[brittle atlas]

spellblade, necro

a lot of masteries can use stuff like Vessel of Strife or Twisted Heart to do hybrid life/ward stuff

so while not all-in on ward, they get some as an additional defensive layer

[frank wasp]

ty

[vapid aspen]

(lich too, arguably the best at scaling ward but lich has something else that's even better than that...)

[icy snow]

hello people

is this any good

if so whats the next step on this ^^

[brittle atlas]

not particularly.

the cleanse affix has most of its power in the first tier, so getting an exalted version of the affix doesn't do much to make it better.

you want % increased health and hybrid health on belt suffixes if you're an hp-based build. Otherwise you probably want cold resist and something else

[icy snow]

aright thank you

[hollow socket]

I'd look at upgrading the crit avoidance and mana regen and merge it with one of the unique ward belts with LP. (If endurance rolls on a ward item it's not better anyways 😆 )

[frank wasp]

is this ring any good?

[vapid aspen]

It's not bad

it also is extremely common

I have multiple tabs full of them

[frank wasp]

why do you keep so many of them?

[vapid aspen]

Because it's less work to farm enough gold to buy another tab than it is to try and clean out the existing ones

[frank wasp]

why did you put them in the tab in the first place?

[vapid aspen]

because reading the rolls takes more time than clicking it and putting in stash

[frank wasp]

fair enough

i got one with 2LP, so i was extra curious about it

[vapid aspen]

Yeah it's super farmable so getting them with lp is really strong. Lots of good stuff you can do with it

[deep rover]

flayers pride doesnt seem to work with smites sacrifice node. Do you guys think its bug or intended because of wording in node since it says consumes health

[barren pagoda]

Wtf

Lmao

Jesus Christ

[vapid aspen]

I mean I farmed like 30 omnis to get the one I have now with good rolls lol.

[cold plaza]

that is intended, unfortunately. that shield does work with a life-cost like Transplant or Marrow Shards on an acolyte.

[small flume]

Paladin is essentially an attunement-based caster, right?

[balmy current]

And a Strength-based melee (either Rive or Warpath).

[small flume]

And what exactly is FG then? 🙂 I still can't figure it out, tbh.

Currently going with strength, Forge Strike+Multistike, Shield Throw/Rush, and Manifest Armor.

Hoarding up armor and block, with a bit of armor shred.

[balmy current]

Forge Guard is a bit of a mixed box, it's got melee, throwing, minion , 2H & shield bonuses....

[visual terrace]

Is there a way to convert solo character to non-solo ? i have only one char anyway

[brave ibex]

Yeah, it's in options, but from what I remember you lose everything in your stash/crafting mats

[visual terrace]

thats not good 🙂

where is that option?

[minor kindle]

Challenge page?

[visual terrace]

yes i found it, thanks

there is no way i can save all my things ? even if i have only one character ?

[stone granite]

Nope

That's the point of solo

[visual terrace]

what affects how many legendary potential i get when from uniques ?

[vapid aspen]

Area level where it drops relative to the "effective level for legendary potential" property on the item you can find on the item database.

[warm yew]

Each Unique has an "effective level" - the higher that level, the harder it is to get more LP on that Unique. Only dropping more of that unique currently gives you a chance to get more LP versions.

[vapid aspen]

If you drop a unique item in a lv100 zone, a unique that has an effective level of 5 is far more likely to drop with higher lp than a unique with an effective level of 70

For most cases, effective level is the same as the level requirement to equip the item

[visual terrace]

so i need to get as many as possible drops in level zone 100 ? so i can get max lp on item

[warm yew]

Correct.

[visual terrace]

ok, thx guys

[vapid aspen]

There are also some cases where you can force lp

to a degree

like soulfire bastion sometimes has a door modifier that makes a unique you get from soul gambler more likely to have lp

whenever that mod pops up I full clear the entire dungeon zone XD

[visual terrace]

and then die at the boss 😄

[vapid aspen]

this is why you play immortal zdps builds

I still havent used the area mechanic in soulfire XD

what is a degen anyway?

[visual terrace]

the degen is not that bad, but the big hits are insta death

[vapid aspen]

I walk around with 13.5k ward so I'm just fine XD

[visual terrace]

ez game 😄

[cold saddle]

Hello everyone I'm new here and I have a quick question. Do we have any info about how many people will be able to play together at the same time in the future? What is the goal?

[balmy current]

4 per party. https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036

[cold saddle]

Thank you

[barren cliff]

I can't see items on the ground what should I do?

[vapid aspen]

Press z

[barren cliff]

I did

I don't have a loot filter either

[vapid aspen]

hrm

hold X just in case

[barren cliff]

still not working

[vapid aspen]

that is very strange

[barren cliff]

indeed ...

okay I managed to fix it

I pressed alt+z

I had to unplug my keyboard and use my laptop's keyboard to do it though

seems like my keyboard's macro was making the game bug out

[ivory field]

Does anyone know the baseline damage increase (or more?) abomination gets per minion consumed. Not from the masteries but from the base skill. I can't find that information anywhere

[brittle atlas]

someone may have reverse engineered it, but I don't think that information has been datamined and put on any of the database sites

[ivory field]

I see. Thank you

[knotty kraken]

Hey i'm wondering if someone faced my problem, my pc had a random electricity shutdown while i was playing, when i turned it back on, my character was gone and account empty lol

[brittle atlas]

characters are saved locally, so it's possible your computer dying corrupted saves, check the saves folder for backups (normal save name + temp)

[icy snow]

ayo

will there be group play bonuses

[cinder fossil]

they don't want group play to be significantly advantageous over playing solo, so I wouldn't expect many bonuses if at all

[icy snow]

thank you

[vapid trench]

does the increased flame dmg from this weapon scale with my minions fire dmg ?

[amber rain]

You mean the fire dmg? No it would have to specify "minion fire dmg"

[vapid trench]

so it does not increase skeleton mages dmg

and the +21 spell fire dmg increase ?
since most necro skills are also tagged with spell ?

[azure lion]

It has to be "minion spell fire damage"

[stone granite]

Only things that specifically say minion affect minions

[amber rain]

And the attributes listed under scaling tags of the minion skills

[vapid trench]

hmm ok
i was just wondering because since i equipped this weapon my minions melting through stuff compared to my old weapon

[native geyser]

is there an alternative way of leveling characters? I mean, if I make my second character will I have to do the campaign and unlock monoliths again?

[minor kindle]

Yep, you have to

[native geyser]

eh, I don't mind the campaign much but unlocking monoliths is boring

[minor kindle]

i think so

[brave ibex]

You "unlock" monoliths whenever you reach the End of Time, you can do them at like level 25 if you really want to

You will of course eventually need to get idol/passives from story missions

[native geyser]

I'm asking because someone on "All" chat ingame said that people usually finish their builds when their characters are in their 80s. I'm currently level 84 on my first character without any Empowered Monolith unlocked and I'm focusing on completing all monoliths first (I'm midway through second level 90 monolith). The build I'm following requires me to find a "very rare" unique shield and "extremely rare" unique gloves so I don't know how those people manage to finish their builds this quickly. Does it mean you should farm all required uniques on a different character before you start a new one?

[brave ibex]

Well, it depends. If it's a build defining unique, you probably should farm it on a different character. Though, most of the "very/extremely rare" uniques aren't build enabling, just nice to have

[marsh maple]

Technically you can say finished at 85, but you don't really get to experience the rest of deeper parts of character customization in terms of corruption pushing etc

[minor kindle]

If the "very rare" uniques are the core of the build, then yes, that almost means you better have them before you start. cuz the very rare unique is very hard to farm imo

Otherwise you'll need to consider using another build that requires less gear before getting the unique s

[stone granite]

A lot of people have been playing a long time now and just happen to have those items already. You aren't expected to play those builds immediately. And most people don't unlock all the monoliths before going to empowered, better luck getting uniques in empowered

[barren pagoda]

There’s no way to target farm a specific idol right

Trying to get the 4-9% chance to cast smite on hit

For hammer throw build

[brave ibex]

Not really, you can get a blessing that makes Adorned Idol's more common, and just hit up every Idol reward mono you see

[amber rain]

does generic attack speed apply to throwing attacks aswell?

[brave ibex]

Yep

[neon saffron]

Hello, do totems count as minions?

[balmy current]

Yes, that's why they have the minion tag.

[knotty kraken]

@brittle atlas i checked it both are 1kb and even when i changed it nothing happened my account is empty

[terse trench]

do all minion based uniques have a really annoying drawback on them like draining their health or taking more damage cuz both I found have something like that

and that's kind of frustrating

[vapid aspen]

No

[terse trench]

ok good

[vapid trench]

best minion based uniques ?.

[balmy current]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/search?query=minion&in_description=1&exact_match=0

[sharp quartz]

Unfortunately if the temp versions are also messed up, there is very little you can do if you didnt make backups... If you are using Steam Cloud, you may be lucky - you can login via a webbrowser to Steam and check the Remote Storage to see if there are any LE savegames stored there... Corrupted saves due to unexpected system shutdown is very possible - if this is something that can potentially happen often in your area then I would recommend manual backups & consider a UPS... (I live in a country plagued by power cuts and have to do all of this no matter the game).

[vapid trench]

yeah so like literally 90% of that stuff supports the primalist class with their totems and Minions

[balmy current]

Nope, only 10 of ~43 have lines specific to Primalist. And even then unless you're using the Herald of the Scurry, Tempest Maw or Harthenon's Vow, they're good for other minion builds as well.

Though the Acolyte focussed ones probably won't be too good on non-Acolytes.

[prisma sleet]

is auto cast a thing?

[whole talon]

whats the point in 3levels of this if 1 point will get it 100%?

[sharp quartz]

autocast? yip, using the windows numlock trick... it wasnt intended by the devs tho and they have said that they see it as a failure of skill design if a skill is best used blindly on autocast - they would rather update the skill to make it better to not use on autocast... but hey, its been in use so long now that I personally have no idea how they intend to address it - if they will even bother...

[vapid trench]

which one would u prefer for necro builds ?

[cinder fossil]

ailment chance over 100% means you can apply more than 1 stack at once

for example, 200% ignite chance would apply 2 stacks

[whole talon]

oh ok thankyou

[balmy current]

Depends on the build.

[balmy current]

yes

[warm yew]

Curious how rare double-T6 items feel to the community?

[balmy current]

Very, as they should be.

[brittle atlas]

exceptionally rare

[minor vigil]

does legendary potential effective level over 100 mean anything in particular

[brittle atlas]

effective level is just an internal number that represents how rare it is to find that item with lp and with higher lp

[minor vigil]

ah ok

so it's not like impossible to find bc the max zone level is 100

[brittle atlas]

yeah

it's just very very rare

I mean, maybe like...borderline impossible to find one yourself

but across all players in a multiplayer setting there might be a few

[minor vigil]

does that mean uniques with lp can drop in any zone that unique drops?

[brittle atlas]

yes

[minor vigil]

i would assume so but just to make sure

kk

[cold plaza]

yes

[balmy current]

Though zone level increases the chance up to lvl 100, corruption has no effect (other than increasing the chance for uniques to drop)

[fiery salmon]

what weapon type am i supposed to use to scale shield throw damage? I understand suffix and prefix wize but it seems that all weapons provide either flat melee damage or flat spell damage as an implicit

i guess something like chance to bleed or the base crit from dagger (idk if that is even added toward shield throw)

[hollow socket]

It is, I generally use a Kris (crit multi dagger) on throwing builds.

[fiery salmon]

do you know if its worth specing manifest armor for an extra free bounce on shield throw. does it work the same way hydro sphere did in poe pre nerf?

seems like it would be an insane single target boost

unless theres some cooldown on the bounce to the armor guardian

[hollow socket]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-never-man-this-this-guy-gif-22031986

Hydrosphere must have been introduced after I quit PoE 😅

[fiery salmon]

the jist of it is hydro sphere is a summonable orb skill that you can use like an oriana ball(if you've played league) anyway you can target it and essentially abuse that to get double damage by procing secondary effects twice through use of ancestral call or +extra strike etc. most notably with lightning strike. however in the past you've been able to do similar with positioning properly with skills like molten strike by just hitting the ground and having your ancestral call hit the boss. anyway my question was more along the lines of. if I spec into the node that allows me to hit allies with my shield throw. will this allow me to ricochet either one or more bounces off my animated armor rather than the shield immediately coming back to me and not ricocheting at all (single target)

[hollow socket]

It does, it lets you ricochet to the armour and then back to the enemy. Makes sense if you have "shield barrage" on shield throw.

"Manifest Inspiration" is also one of the highest damage nodes on Shield Throw if built around it, probably gives decent damage even otherwise.

(You will want to have manifest armour scale with the stats of your weapon. Then you can equip a good melee weapon, summon the armour, and swap to your throwing weapon)

[fiery salmon]

sickkk

[visual terrace]

are idols for sentinel for smite proc super rare ?

[brittle atlas]

not super rare, there's just no good way to target specific idols

so some rng

[stiff folio]

just started doing monoliths, should i always be clearing the bonus from killing enemies ? or just kill boss and go next

[visual terrace]

just kill the boss, unless you have stacked alot of mods and you want to benefit from them

[stiff folio]

nice

[green knoll]

anyone have experience with shadow bladedancer? i use smoke bomb, shift + shuriken, sinchronized strike and shadow cascade

even with 2 affixes for mana regen on gear i only have 12 mana regen with 159 total mana

its ok for monos, but on bosses its miserable, i have to walk in circles waiting for mana

so i'll use up all my mana in 6 seconds then wait around for 15 seconds to get it back

does anyone how to fix this? seems wrong

[icy snow]

https://youtu.be/G315eGzSa6E is this build still viable?

[fiery salmon]

are weapon mods local or global increases?

[hollow socket]

Global.

[brittle atlas]

LE has no local mods

[brittle atlas]

sync strike mana efficiency is on chest/helm and idols, with enough of it and a bit of mana regen you should have enough to do sync -> shift forever, if you also have the mana refund stuff in shadow cascade

you might also have to drop dark allies in sync strike until you get the gear to fix the mana

[brittle atlas]

don't think anything has changed for it, so it should be fine

[icy snow]

Thank you

[fiery salmon]

👍 thanks

[fiery salmon]

any idea why some white items still showing?

[brittle atlas]

just make your bottom rule a hide all

and then white list stuff to show on higher rules

to hide all, just make a new rule and set it to hide with no conditions

[fiery salmon]

that did the trick

[prisma sleet]

do we know when the transmog system will be unleashed?

[frank wasp]

apparently common if last epoch builder is to be belived

[twin bramble]

hows the multiplayer so far?

pretty excited that its finally happening!

[urban horizon]

Those who are testing MP are under NDA

[twin bramble]

oh dang sorry

didnt know!

[stone granite]

No such feature was announced afaik

[dry narwhal]

if you want them, then you aren't getting them

that's just the way it is

[green knoll]

ty

why does this crit build only have 30% crit chance and 578% crit mult? isnt this bad?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/kB4XMX9B

its from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwsndf1ZKXY

[minor kindle]

The values in the sheet are not completely reliable, some bonuses are not included in them
And rogue can apply the crit vulnerability to enemy to gain the extra crit chance

But this planner just put 1 point in that passive, I'm not sure if it's enough...

[green knoll]

he only put 1 point into vulnerability, which means 5% chance, i tried applying it to the dummy and its basically never up

[minor kindle]

yep, confused me too, or am i missing something

[green knoll]

but even at 5 points it wouldnt apply to normal enemies cause i dont hit them over 5 times, at least when i'm critting lol

i think this build is fun but its very clickbait then, it seems like it has a lot of holes

with the way he suggested you have that 30% crit chance and you dont have enough mana to use your abilities

[prisma sleet]

i mean it's in game, just not active. i'm not saying it was announced yet. i think they said ages ago that it wouldnt drop until 1.0 but i could be wrong

[subtle kindle]

does anyone know the actual drop rate of ravenous void from gaspar?

i need to know if I'm unlucky or I'm in for a crazy grind

[safe harness]

it's a crazy grind

[subtle kindle]

Great

I'm like 30 bosses deep

So I guess I'm in for the long haul

[safe harness]

what's your corruption at?

[subtle kindle]

200

Considering my current gear I would say I'm pretty comfortable staying at 200 for now, though I know pushing corruption would increase the chances

[safe harness]

I think 200 vs 400-500 might take twice as long

[wise palm]

What are some of the strongest builds to start with atm?

[balmy current]

Apart from chat mods.

[nocturne sparrow]

sry, what is a chat mods?

[balmy current]

Chat moderators, it was a joke (since chat mods have to be local to their language)

[nocturne sparrow]

ahh ok)

[prisma sleet]

is there a way to dupe characters?

[balmy current]

Currently, given the files are all saved on your pc?

When 0.9 launches & you want to copy an online character for whatever reason, no.

[icy snow]

this might be a dumb question but

how to farm this

also does skills scale with their level for example do they get more base damage each time they level up

[sharp quartz]

Omnis farming... you have to push endgame corruption on Orobyss Boss echos.

Skills dont get anything by levelling - you just get more points to apply... but there isnt anything like +x damage per level that is auto added... there are a few uniques that have this, but not normal skills - at least not that I recall.

[barren pagoda]

Only annoying ass thjng is

I’ve found it u use an item that adds +skill, and then take it off

It removes a random skill point u had allocated

Not the most recent one

[sharp quartz]

Thats by design

[barren pagoda]

Why tho

[sharp quartz]

The devs dont want to people to cheese skill points - i.e. you add an item, set the skill to help with clearing mobs... then when you get to teh boss, the take the item off and on and then spec points into single damage.

[barren pagoda]

Ah

Didn’t think of that

[sharp quartz]

Doesnt sound like its much of a problem, but when you realise you can get 3+ skill points in some builds, that can make a big difference to a skill

[barren pagoda]

even 1 can be big I guess, with the big nodes that massively alter a skill

[sharp quartz]

yip

[slender prawn]

Ward benefits from armor resis and damage reduction right?

[brave ibex]

Yep, excluding Endurance

[balmy current]

Nothing to see here, move along

[brave ibex]

As I said, it benefits from DR, excluding Endurance

[slender prawn]

ty

[balmy current]

Ah, yes. 🙂

[icy snow]

do i have to regrind monos if i level a new char ?

to get emp monos

[sharp quartz]

Yip.

but you dont have to do all of them... only the one path (usually the righthand side)..

[icy snow]

aawww that sucks

[sharp quartz]

you can respec passives & skills, but you cannot change your Mastery decision - thats the only thing in the game that is a permanent choice.

[balmy current]

Crafting on them to make them more useful?

Selling generally isn't worth doing since most items don't sell for much gold. So you either shatter them for affixes, use them as is, craft on them to make them better then either use them or not. Not sure what other options there could/should be?

[minor kindle]

must be minion except some special minions

[sharp quartz]

Nope... but in some instances where a chosen skill it proc'd by something else you can take it off your skill bar and replace it with an unselected skill... eg.. swap out a selected skill for a plain movement skill (no specialisation)

doesnt work in all cases, but thats the only way to "fake" an additional skill..

[balmy current]

And only if the proc'd skill is proc'd by a different skill.

[keen viper]

Can skills proc themselves other than echo?

Any way to increase mana regen other than mana regen affixes/passives

At 200% it still feels like crap and no mana eff available for skill

[balmy current]

Sigil of Hope has a node that procs on kill

[keen viper]

Ah, you mean that way

Thought about skill proccing itself off its own use

[balmy current]

No, but every class has several ways to either generate mana or free skills to use while you wait

[keen viper]

Like chance to throw axe on hit and axe throwing axe

[keen viper]

Not really available for my build...

[balmy current]

Which is fine, but that's your choice to make a build that's significantly mana negative.

[keen viper]

That's why I am asking if there is a way to fix it with gear

I went out of my way to make it have as much mana regen and as low cost as possible already

[balmy current]

Upload your build in the build planner & link it?

[keen viper]

Only way to go lower would be to lose over 50% of damage

[keen viper]

On phone now. But just standard javelin electrify

With smite and judgement granting me increased mana regen

[balmy current]

Why not take the mana gain on Smite cast passive? Time & Faith

[keen viper]

It doesn't seem to work with smite procced by javelin

Yep

Tier 1 is lowest, tier 5 is highest craftable

Tier 6 and 7 is drop only

Im yet to see tier 7

[balmy current]

Yeah, you'd need to manually cast it, but you can do that

[keen viper]

Major DPS loss and not sure I would even gain mana on use

[balmy current]

That's your choice, certainly

[keen viper]

Was hoping for some source of base mana regen

Or making it scale with max mana

[sharp quartz]

Lots of discussions about mana management on the forum if you wanted to get some background (search will be your friend)...its far too big a subject to discuss in discord..... but as Llama8 mentioned, the "best" way around the issue is to consider mana generating skills/passives as part of the build design...

[balmy current]

Yeah, part of the design is that mana is a thing & if you want to have expensive skills, you'll need to include some way to generate mana, either passively (with the limitations therein) or from other skills/passives.

[keen viper]

Yeah, problem is none of mana generating passives/skills work well with throwing builds on paladin

I don't have melee attack speed nor cast speed

And as I said, I already tried to incorporate every source of mana regen on passives/skills

[balmy current]

Yeah, I came across that myself a few days ago

[minor kindle]

have you take two -3 mana cost prefix on the rings?

[keen viper]

Yes

[balmy current]

There's also a node on Javelin that reduces the cost by 3 per point

[keen viper]

Have 3 points in it

My smite increases my mana regen. My judgement increases my mana regen

Have exalts with mana regen

[sharp quartz]

I got around that exact build issue with Mountain Boots - you are usually standing still when throwing javelin and it solved my mana issue

I could spam Javelin

[minor kindle]

Although I think that's low enough, you might consider restoring mana with VR

[keen viper]

VR feels super unsafe in HC

[keen viper]

That might be a solution, just need to find a different source of shock

Though that also means losing shitton of movement speed

T7 rings would be good enough, but i think our civilization will be gone by the time I find one with this affix on t7

[sharp quartz]

Lol.. no, T7 drop easily in empowered monoliths with decent corruption... getting that exact affix at a t7 may take some time tho. and in Dungeons

[keen viper]

HC, i need to get to empowered mono with decent corruption first

What's the DMG jump between lvl 90 mono and empowered one

[sharp quartz]

They are talking about mana management on the ziz stream right now

[balmy current]

50% more plus higher value modifiers

[knotty kraken]

How can i reach out and talk to a dev?

[keen viper]

you can email support

[knotty hull]

hello good night

**Penetration applies after resistances are capped to 75% **
I don't understand this. Can someone explain with another words?
Thanks

[minor vigil]

if you have 75% fire resistance, and an enemy penetrates 75% resistance, then you have 0 resistance against that hit

if you have 150% fire resistance, which is reduced to 75%, and an enemy penetrates 75% resistance, then you still have 0 resistance against that hit

because 150% is reduced to 75% BEFORE the penetration

[knotty hull]

now i see

thanks so much 🤝

[balmy current]

That only applies to player resistance being capped to 75% then having area-level penetration which itself is capped to 75%

[fossil vessel]

Did they announce when MP would be available on Ziz's stream earlier?

[native sail]

I doubt it. If they did announce it then it'd be plastered all over the site and Discord.

[hexed locust]

Said targeting before end of 22 but didn't give a specific date

[balmy current]

Yeah, it kinda depends how well the CT goes.

[hexed locust]

Yup they've always been clear about ready when it's ready but that's the most defined date they've given us so pretty hype

[stark meadow]

this may be a really dumb question; would I have to sign my CT NDA with my real name or can i use my screen name

[iron gulch]

does unliited power from spark use lightning blast's skill tree?

[brittle atlas]

yes

[iron gulch]

nice so i can specialize lightning strike, not have it on my hotkeys and have spark and arcane ascendance proc it instead? And does that proc lightning aegis as well?

[brittle atlas]

It might need to be on your bars?

should proc lightning aegis from the LB tree based on wording

[iron gulch]

okay ill figure out if you need it on your bars later then thanks

[hard vigil]

any suggested quick builds? been playing warbear but im stalled at chamber of vessels and i find its slow / awkward movement skill

[wide sentinel]

werebear is quite fast if you build EQ version, maybe you are playing it wrong?

[hard vigil]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/strength-stacking-cold-dot-werebear

[wide sentinel]

or are you still lvling?

[hard vigil]

is one i was doing cause its the only guide i can find

still leveling

lvl 50

57

[wide sentinel]

i dont think youll find anything that is much faster than bear, ice dot is really good for lvling

[hard vigil]

ohh? really?

[wide sentinel]

well the only other movement skill that primalist as is leap slam

[hard vigil]

what about other classes?

[wide sentinel]

and i wouldnt call it faster than charge, cause charge can literally skip whole areas

if you know the layout

[hard vigil]

i find aiming / directing charge is hard

[wide sentinel]

well you have to get used to it 😅

[hard vigil]

i mean ya cant turn with it

[wide sentinel]

yep,thats why knowing layout helps cause if u know directions you can cover big distance

[hard vigil]

and its got a long ass recharge/ charge up

at least leapslam can leap gaps

[wide sentinel]

ye but it has cd and the distance isnt that big

[hard vigil]

what about other classes? and do ya have a guide for EQ druid

[wide sentinel]

idk from my experience lvling isnt really class dependent and more of game knowledge, sure some classes have op skills in the beggining and that saves some time, but imo the difference isnt that much

guide should be on the forums/letools

[hard vigil]

ohh?

that guide is the only druid one i could find

[polar drift]

I'd sorta agree Misha, Except you may not be considering bottom-tree fireball sorcs. Thats the easiest leveling experience ive ever had by a margin thats.. rather vast

[hard vigil]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/class/primalist

[wide sentinel]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/earthquake-werebear-is-back-build-guide-0-8-4/46282

[last wolf]

hey guys, did we get any relevant performance update since a year ago? when i played last time i saw some pretty long load screen and some weird lag spike randomly..

[hard vigil]

8.4 build the same?

[wide sentinel]

i dont think it had any major changes, but you can play around it there are different versions of it

[wide sentinel]

they have performance updates almost every patch...as for how much it affects your gameplay it depends on your pc

[marsh maple]

the smoothness of cold dot werebear is the fact that you can just press Q once, delete the screen then move on to the next. You can 100% invest into movement speed like a Falcon, or double MS boots

[hard vigil]

you mean maul?

[marsh maple]

there are plenty of options for speeding the build up. Most of primalists movement options are movement speed based

oh maul yeah

sorry I forgot lol

[hard vigil]

i find maul is good but def doesnt delete the screen and has a long cool down

any suggestions?

[marsh maple]

https://youtu.be/qe-QDnPCStc

this is a faster one

but the problem is 1, its not updated and 2. it takes a wind up to get started

but its quick after that

[wise palm]

What item can I get "life gain on hit" on?

[marsh maple]

suffixes of weapons is the main spot

[wide sentinel]

idk when i lvled cold bear the vines deleted the whole screen after they got some lvls

[marsh maple]

thats for only attacks though

[wide sentinel]

i mean roots

[marsh maple]

can you send me your last epoch build planner?

I can look at it and see if there is something wrong

[hard vigil]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/strength-stacking-cold-dot-werebear

[wise palm]

Ty, im playing hammer throw and need a bit of sustain bc I keep nearly dying

[marsh maple]

no I mean like your ingame planner

[hard vigil]

ohh how i do that?

[marsh maple]

thats the post I wrote

this button on the planner

[hard vigil]

k

[marsh maple]

if I can look at your character, I can tell you whats wrong etc

[brittle atlas]

health on hit is melee hits only

if you want sustain on throwing attacks, get generic leech or throwing leech

or if you're void knight, get void leech

[marsh maple]

you USED to get health on hit generic from Forge Guard

[wide sentinel]

tbh if you are lvling with hammers you usually want to avoid getting hit, sustain comes later

skill mechanics allow you to do that with some practice

especially after getting spiral its super easy

[minor kindle]

or 4 seconds global leech from the third Rive

[hard vigil]

does this skill effect any ability other than roots?

[brittle atlas]

No

[green knoll]

If I was earning 10 prefix and 10 suffix shards before, total 20. With this equipped will i earn:
11 prefix and 10 suffix
OR
11 prefix and 9 suffix?

does it increase the drop rate generally or just the ratio?

[outer sage]

I love the font you guys use for the game and forums. Is this a font we can download somewhere?

[shrewd rampart]

i think you need to ask in the devs channel

[wind night]

is there a setting somewhere to auto "alt" to show more info

[sharp quartz]

no auto "alt"

[iron gulch]

does mana arc from mana strike count as a seperate hit from mana strike? So that when both it and mana strike crit you get 6 sparks for spark

[fiery salmon]

are all idol rolls t1?

[woeful zinc]

so what im getting from the news is multiplayer out on 16?

[lunar holly]

there will be a stream of Zizaran and Steelmage playing the multiplayer closed alpha on the 16th, it won't be released for everyone

once a date is announced it will be super obvious in the news

[soft prairie]

If I want to use Rune of Ascendance to roll for a Prismatic Gaze, what base should I use, considering Prismatic Gaze's base is unique?

[lunar holly]

you can use any helm, the base doesn't matter for the rune

[soft prairie]

I see

Thank you

[balmy current]

Which month? They're hoping for this year.

[twilit bough]

I'm currently loving how gearing works. I.e. how powerful stuff is you find and how easy it is to craft to a decent level. Have the devs talked about this in regards to trading and nerfing the current single player experience. Imo legendary potential is already something that would make trading very interesting.

[brave ibex]

They have spoken about wanting to avoid trade becoming the main way people acquire items, but how to interpret that is still up for discussion

[subtle kindle]

I would suggest that they want trade to be weak so that crafting can remain strong

[frank wasp]

can you use VR to extend the duration of this buff?

[keen viper]

Yes

[sharp quartz]

yip. not sure what tier the devs call it, but there is only one tier for idols

[vapid aspen]

Exalted idol bug would like a word.

(bring them back)

collectible shiny idols with no purpose whatsoever

[tidal mantle]

pretty early into the game (lv4) and have a question. why does this staff grand me so much more dmg than this wand on lightning blast and fireball

lightning blast tooltip dps
without weapon: 46
with wand: 59
with staff: 81

[minor kindle]

ignite

[tidal mantle]

lightning dmg can ignite? so is that ignite dmg included in this tooltip?

[minor kindle]

everything with hits can apply the ignite when you have a chance

[lunar holly]

and the staff has one more adaptive spell damage

[tidal mantle]

well yea but that wouldnt explain the huge dmg difference

when +3 and 15% inc dmg gives me only 13 tooltip dps

[tidal mantle]

yea just tested it. wand has higher hit dmg but staff applies ignite -> higher dps. tyvm

[dense ravine]

Anyone patient and kind enough to get me some info about the game? I am considering buying it

[vapid aspen]

what info you lookin for?

[tidal mantle]

does this apply to other ailments too?

[vapid aspen]

Ailments are independant of damage types

ignite deals fire damage though

[tidal mantle]

neat

[vapid aspen]

Also, they dont scale with size of hit

its a flat damage

[tidal mantle]

so flat dmg multiplied by everything that applies to that ailment

[vapid aspen]

Yep

and certain nodes on skill trees will apply to ailments from the skill

[dense ravine]

@vapid aspen a bit of everything

[vapid aspen]

If you have a node that says "fireball deals 50% more fire damage", ignites are fire damage from fireball

[dense ravine]

You mind if i pm you with a few questions?

Just some generic ones

[tidal mantle]

if you want general knowledge about the game you should check out yt. there are some vids explaining the game. i think its better to ask here if you have specific questions

[vapid aspen]

if it says "fireball deals 50% more damage with hits" then it doeant work because ignite isnt a hit

[dense ravine]

Well my main one is that afaik each main skill can be “built” in a few ways on the tree right

[vapid aspen]

Thats true for 99% of cases yep

[tidal mantle]

yep. so thats pretty similiar to poe but with every dmg type being able to apply every ailment

[vapid aspen]

Yeah except base damage of hit doesnt matter, and you can apply multiple stacks at once, and penetration works

[dense ravine]

So i can consider that the game has a good variety of ways to play each class and skill

[vapid aspen]

Yep

[tidal mantle]

i think a good way to judge the variety would be to look at what build guides are out there

[vapid aspen]

there are like... a handful of skills that arent as flexible I suppose

but those will most likely get fixed

[dense ravine]

I just dont want to for example go on a class and only have 2/3 ways to play it

I played poe for a good time now and never repeated builds

[minor vigil]

just play paladin/vk or druid, they can do everything xd

[vapid aspen]

for any given class there are almost always going to be maybe 4 to 5 top tier builds, a ton of not quite top tier builds, and then 1-2 pretty bad builds

[dense ravine]

Thats enough i guess xD

I guess ill watch a fee vids about endgame content

[tidal mantle]

is ailment dmg like ignite affected by the dmg multiplier of the skill applying it? for example does glacier apply huge ignites on the third explosion?

[minor kindle]

what dmg multiplier?

i assume that is the added damage scaling?

[tidal mantle]

im talking about the double and quadriple dmg

whats the difference between added dmg and added spell dmg

[minor kindle]

nah, it doesnt

[sharp quartz]

Be warned... Tooltip damage calculations are wonky.... dont use them as a "final figure" rather do damage against a dummy and average that for more "effective dps"... Part of the problem is that damage calcs especially those with ailments and situational increases can skew the figures ... devs are already working on new tooltips and character sheet, its just on the backburner in favour of MP

[stoic steeple]

is the void axe a special boss drop?..

been playing for 3-4 days now and didnt see it yet

so its safe to assume its either kinda rare or a boss drop?

[sharp quartz]

Apathy Maw? If thats the one, then Yes, its from Orobyss in the monoliths only

[stoic steeple]

is there a way to know what boss im doing before i do it?

like a room name?

[sharp quartz]

In monoliths?

[stoic steeple]

yep

so i know what to aim for

if possible at least

[sharp quartz]

Orobyss is the only one - he has a special echo usually at the end of a branch...

Monolith End Quest bosses are when you run the quests not echos

[stoic steeple]

mkay then i suppose i got unlucky because i reset my web a couple of times

ill just keep running them

[sharp quartz]

take the ones further away from the starting point and note that the Maw only drops on corruption level 50 minimum... so its best to run Orobyss echos in empowered monoliths for the maw

[stoic steeple]

oh

that would explain it

im at low corruption 😐

mkay thanks for clarifying

[sharp quartz]

non-empowered monoliths are not worth farming... just get through them as fast as you can..

[stoic steeple]

idk how to even empower stuff yet

[sharp quartz]

you have to complete the three level 90 monoliths, then you activate a chestlike thing in the middle of their islands... and that unlocks empowered level 100 monoliths... those are the best ones to farm...

[stoic steeple]

im only lvl 79

so i need to reach 90?

[sharp quartz]

Nope... no character level limit

[minor vigil]

no, it's like red maps

[sharp quartz]

if you can do it, then thats all you need

[minor vigil]

you just need to progress to the three level 90 monoliths (yellow maps) and clear them

[sharp quartz]

^^

[stoic steeple]

uh

[minor vigil]

empowered monos have minimum 100 corruption so they can always drop apathy's maw; it's pretty common

[stoic steeple]

should i be finishing my quests?..

[minor vigil]

you need to do the quest echoes to unlock the next timeline yeah

[minor vigil]

oh those?

a lot of those give skill points

but you dont have to do all of them

[stoic steeple]

😐

guess i need to go back then

been playing on hard mode without knowing

apperantly

[minor vigil]

it's like,y ou can only get 12? points from the campaign and more than 12 quests give skill points

[sharp quartz]

Just make sure your have all your passivbe points and idol slots... you dont have to do all the side quests...

[minor vigil]

so you can pick and choose what you want

[sharp quartz]

skill points are from XP...

[minor vigil]

sorry poe terminology lol

passive points

[sharp quartz]

np

[stoic steeple]

so im okay or not? how do i know if i took 12?

[sharp quartz]

honestly cannot recall if there is a way to quickly check in-game... you can check on https://www.lastepochtools.com/checklist/quests/passives

[stoic steeple]

i remember people saying you can skip the entire campaign though

and start doing monos at level.. 32? ish?

35?

something like that

[minor vigil]

sorry it's 15, but you can subtract your level minus 2 (bc you only get passives at level 3+) from your number of skill points

to get the difference

and obviously idol slots if you have any locked you dont have them all

[stoic steeple]

T_T

so how do you "speedrun" a new character?

is there some kind of guide?

in POE i know exactly what quests to skip etc

[minor vigil]

you can skip part of the campaign by doing the temporal sanctum dungeon

[sharp quartz]

You can check the speedrunning channel ... but yes, dungeons allow you to bypass campaign content.

[minor vigil]

and you can start monos before finishing the campaign

like the final campaign boss is harder than early monos for example

[stoic steeple]

which is great

thats what i want

but i need to know the route to take or start practicing on

[sharp quartz]

Its all up to you... once you have unlocked the passives & idol slots then nothing is really stopping you from doing Monoliths from the moment you can get into EoT location... be warned tho.. there is a 5 lvl XP window... i.e. if you do any level higher or lower than 5 levels, your XP is limited... i.e. no speed levelling...

[stoic steeple]

i think i need to be referred to a guide this doesnt seem simple

is there anything you recommend i follow?

[dense ravine]

How do stashes work?

Do we have limited number or nah

[lunar holly]

you can buy up to 200 stash tabs with ingame gold

I think the first few tabs are pretty cheap and then each consecutive tab is 10000 gold more expensive

[sharp quartz]

Try browsing the #⏱┃speedrunning channel and asking there... There may be a youtube vid or two but I dont recall any specific speedrunning guide...

[tidal mantle]

what is a good place to look for build guides

[sharp quartz]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/

[balmy current]

Or the actual link. 😉 @sharp quartz https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/

[sharp quartz]

Too lazy

[tidal mantle]

what do these 2 dots stand for

[lunar holly]

the number of prefixes the item has

suffixes are on the other side 😛

[keen viper]

Wait, how do you add those dots

[lunar holly]

They are on the tooltips of the items that are on the ground

[keen viper]

They aren't for me

[brave ibex]

It's a setting, ground label indicators or something

[lunar holly]

oh yeah there's an option under Gameplay

[keen viper]

Ok, thanks

[short storm]

So i've reached the engame monoliths, do I just rush to unlocking empowered monoliths? im at level 80. I have ok gear, im res capped, the build is great. Should I sit in 82/85? or complete the 90s for empowered

[balmy current]

Most people rush empowered

[short storm]

Ok, I feel my build can handle it. As far as unlocking the other lower branches of monoliths, is that a requirement? like where you can skip 62 for 66, do I need to clear those at all or are they just there for lower tier blessings?

[balmy current]

Nope, you only need to get to the lvl 90 monos & do those

[short storm]

ok thanks for the help llama, appreciate it ❤️

[twilit bough]

Is it alright to just pull a loot filter from a build planner?

[brittle atlas]

it's a starting point, but ideally you'd want to become familiar enough to make your own filter more suited to your precise gearing needs or wants.

The filter stuff is honestly not too difficult to get used to if you just dive in and start playing around, even if your just customizing an existing filter

[tidal mantle]

is there any use for a ignite chance of 100%? just saw this one lastepochtools

and is there any other wiki besides the fandom wiki? its pretty lacking

[balmy current]

100% chance = more stacks per hit

[tidal mantle]

ohh thats nice

[balmy current]

Yeah, I don't think many people use the wiki. There's an in-game guide (G) & a thread on the forum

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/community-game-guide/26057

Plus https://www.lastepochtools.com/ & https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/

[tidal mantle]

those are good ressource pages. found lastepochtools myself by searching for stuff item bases, but the other 2 are new to me

tyvm

[iron gulch]

does multiple affixes of fire aura on crit share the same cooldown?

[balmy current]

Yes

[frank wasp]

is the healing here worth going for on a cold build?

[brittle atlas]

unlikely

pretty bad base

and you should have access to significantly better recovery methods elsewhere

like cold leech, elemental leech, bleeding heart if needed, hp regen, ward stuff, etc

[hollow socket]

Do you guys ever spec into fear (e.g. warcry, golem, etc.)?

[brittle atlas]

sometimes on spirit plague or wandering spirits, but very rarely otherwise

having enemies run away is often annoying/slowing me down more than helping

in my experience

[hollow socket]

Same here 😆

And even if not for that it seems really undertuned compared to status effects that you can apply more than once.

Just needed to hear that so I can start figuring out suggestions to improve it ^^

[opal timber]

someone reccommend me an op build that's gonna get the nerfbat in the future ^.^

[cinder fossil]

vk autobomber probably

[brittle atlas]

anything poison

umbral blades in general

[soft orchid]

does anyone know a good beginners guide for lightning magic

just bought game

[shrewd rampart]

lightning magic?

as in you want to play a wizard that does lightning damage?

[cinder fossil]

i would just wing it for your first character and find a guide later if you're struggling

just make sure you hover over your skills and see how to scale them

[hollow patrol]

Does Last Epoch save offline character progress on Steam? Or if i lose files I will lose my characters?

[safe harness]

it saves on steam

[ionic oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCOk7aY4p3Q
i agree with others in that if you have prior arpg experience you can go in blind, the in game guide is actually helpful at explaining mechanics. however if you still want to follow a guide here's a lightning blast sorc that should take you to empowered monos if not further

[soft orchid]

pretty much yeah i just find lightning magic as a theme to be cool lmao

[ionic oxide]

you dont need the uniques in the video for the build to work, rares are fine

[hollow patrol]

What filter should I use for early werebear primalist build? Should I stick to no filter on 27 lvl and just check every drop?

[cold plaza]

fear's pretty good defense for leveling in HC

[iron gulch]

considering how resistance and area level works the max res you need to cap is like 175% right?

oh nvm i see the actual log explaining it it's not -1% res per area level it's +1 enemy res penetration per area level so I just need 75% got it

[brittle atlas]

yep, just 75%

[brittle atlas]

doing stuff on empowered? if so I'd just pick a direction and push out as far as possible until you find a memory or chaos tower, do it, rerun the bow/quiver nodes, then reset the timeline and repeat

it's zone level 100, but if you progress through normal monos as quick as possible you hit it at around level 72 ish

maybe 4-5 hours from entering monoliths

and the chance to encounter the timeline specific unique nodes is much higher in empowered

to unlock empowered, you need to finish the three zone level 90 timelines

which people generally do by running Fall of the Outcasts, The Black Sun, Ending the Storm, Reign of Dragons, then the three level 90 timelines

yeah, it's a bit of a grind to get there, but the farming is much better in empowered

[barren pagoda]

Wait what’s further than empowered monos

By empowered monos you mean the lvl 100 versions right

[ionic oxide]

yes

[barren pagoda]

What’s further, I’m new and I thought that was the last thing

[ionic oxide]

i just meant it'll take a beginner through normal monos, because you need to have good defense at least to get into empowered

[barren pagoda]

Ah

[ionic oxide]

so the build will take them to that point at which they can seek further advice

no point telling someone who just bought the game how to gear for endgame

[brittle atlas]

Corruption scaling in empowered let’s them keep scaling up difficulty and rewards

[fiery salmon]

is there any youtube channel or other website that showcases singular skills with and without their augments nodes

[iron gulch]

would halo effect + convergence mean the thing hit by lightningblast constantly has a shock nova per half-chain?

[brave ibex]

Is this additive with your block effectiveness?

[safe harness]

Block gives armor against the hit, so no

[hollow socket]

This looks like "When a mob has 200% increased dmg, and you block its hit, the base that your damage taken is calculated from is as if the mob had 191% increased dmg".

[tidal mantle]

do mod tiers matter for rune of shattering?

its description says random amount but i would expect mod tiers to affect it

[safe harness]

Yes

[brave ibex]

Yeah, it's random up to the tier of that affix

[tidal mantle]

makes sense. ty

[brave ibex]

Worth noting that Rune of Removal will always give you an amount of shards equal to the tier of the affix it removed

[tidal mantle]

is there some list of the spawn weight of mods and their tiers

[tidal mantle]

would i get a +fireball shard when i shatter this?

[cinder fossil]

use runes of removal, shattering runes have a chance to not return the affix shards

[warm yew]

Rune of Shattering will also not return as many shards as Rune of Removal - even if it does proc. The Rune of Removal gives one shard per tier when it removes an affix, Rune of Shattering is between 1 and however many tiers.

[balmy current]

No, it's a different defensive layer so it's multiplicative.

[balmy current]

No & TBH, I don't think there's a weighting, it's all just RNG.

[tidal mantle]

there are weightings. some mods are rarer than other mods. "just rng" doesnt exist. there has to be a system behind it that determines the chance to roll each mod

how can i refresh the town shop btw

[balmy current]

Quit to character selection screen & go back in

[cold plaza]

[potent dragon]

Hi is there somewhere you can farm for idols more efficiently?

[ionic oxide]

you can watch out for daily idol rewards on higher tier dungeons otherwise not that im aware of

[spare fossil]

Hello. Multiplayer release comes with 0.9 patch next weeks or 1.0 in the end of 2022?

[soft orchid]

How would you guys recommend i set up passives and skills if i wanted to use lightning burst primarily for clear rather than single target

And/or static orb for single target

[viscid musk]

MP with 0.9. Not next week. Probably end of 2022.
1.0 we dont know

[ionic oxide]

did you watch the guide?

imo static orb already feels pretty bad for clear, would not use it over lb for single target

[spare fossil]

Thanks

[twilit bough]

Thanks, well for leveling it is mostly resists and a good weapon (afaik) So i essentially ticked all dmg mods that help me and resistance mods/health mods on every item in addition to the stuff which was already ticked, but I feel like that compels me to pick up almost too much

[acoustic thicket]

If MP isn’t coming until the end of the year it might be too late. Because of D4

[minor vigil]

i dont think you can gamble for uniques anymore

[acoustic thicket]

TY

[short storm]

Can anyone point me in the direction for midgame gearing? Im kinda struggling to work out how to gear before finding my "bis" items. Im running the blender 2.0 build (warpath VK) which has a decently loot filter.

A content creator video or something, im currently farming empowered monos for the maw 2hander axe.

[cinder fossil]

the Soulfire Bastion dungeon has a gambler at the end that can roll exalted, set, and unique items.

the normal gambler cannot roll uniques/set items or exalteds.

[acoustic thicket]

appreciate it

[balmy current]

Oh hell no.

[balmy current]

You can't, and the gambler was changed to cap out at lvl 40 items a while ago. At least, that's for the normal gambler, gambling from the Soulfire Bastion is completely different.

[timber temple]

from what i remember resistnces reduce that type of damage by 1% per point so its not as critical as in poe that you are resist caped. Is it still important to be capped in all resistances by endgame and how much
should I have throughout leveling?

[balmy current]

That's the same as in LE. The main difference is that in LE, mobs have 1% penetration per area level (up to 75%). This penetration occurs after your resists have been capped at 75% so the game is balanced around you effectively having zero resists (however, if you actually have 0 resists, you'll take 75% more damage than you would if you had 75%).

Basically, if you want to avoid taking more damage than necessary, you'll keep your resists are or above area level. Having >75% resist in "end game" means that any shred effects will be mitigated. So your total resist minus any shred effect is totalled up, the result is then capped at 75% & then the area level penetration is applied.

[timber temple]

k thanks , is it easy to respec? I remember that it cost gold to respec passive skills increasing per point spent i think and you can respec abilities but you have to level them up bab from lvl 1 i think (i belive its quicker though). but with a new character is it feasible to level with one build and then fully respec at endgame?

[terse roost]

yes, gold cost becomes basicly meaningless you make so much, skill level's base goes up as you level with a max of 10, and yes its very easy to swap builds when you reach end game.

[hoary siren]

How does damage conversion works? For instance, if I have a spell that deals 100 fire damage, and I have 100% increased fire damage, and the spell is converted to cold, does the converted spell benefits from this 100% increase or it will only scale with increases to cold damage?

[native lichen]

how do you unlock the empowered monoliths?

[cinder fossil]

complete all 3 level 90 monoliths and then activate the object in the center of them

[stone granite]

Once you complete the 3 at the end there is an unlock in the middle

[steady spoke]

Greetings! Explain please the conditions of dropping this boots https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsCZQFiA : does it mean MY CHARACTER to be the Sentinel, or the last arena named boss is meant to be "of sentinel class sometimes"?

[native lichen]

i completed the quest for them. does this count?

or i have to complete them a second time?

[stone granite]

There should be an unlock in the middle that empowers everything

[native lichen]

What do you mean by "the middle"?

[stone granite]

On the map there is a place that all 3 lvl 90 monoliths connect to

[cinder fossil]

yeah, there is a node in the middle of the three monoliths. you can just walk to it

[balmy current]

Usually conversion occurs before damage modifiers are applied

[native lichen]

thank you guys 🙂

[timber temple]

are the 0.8.4f leveling builds on lastepochtools.com still usable for 0.8.5 (ie where there many changes to character skills since 0.8.4f)?

[iron gulch]

so last epoch tools has a tooltip for a skill's melee attack speed, how does a weapon's base attack speed effect it?

is it like: Skill base spd x Weapon base spd x Attack speed modifier?

or: (Skill + Weapon) x Atk Spd?

[digital parrot]

nope

is this the right chat to ask for crafting advice?

[fiery salmon]

is there any mana cost conversion items? like mana cost to life cost or ward cost?

[warm yew]

As I understand it, Damage is converted before increases and multipliers are applied - so your base damage will convert, but not any extra increases from trees/gear

Defenses are converted after increases are applied - so 5% Dodge Chance with all increases and multipliers will be converted to 5% Glancing Blow chance (calculated from a Raw base, Increases and More)

[brittle atlas]

Base weapon speed is a multiplier to increased attack speed

[short storm]

Does the shade of orobos have the echo modifiers?

[brittle atlas]

no

[brittle atlas]

yes

[iron gulch]

So it's: Skill speed (Weapon Speed x Inc Atk Speed) then?

[short storm]

_> ugh time to remove this dodge modifier

[brittle atlas]

the increased attack speed on your sheet includes the weapon modifier already

[iron gulch]

oooooh

[digital parrot]

can wands be good for cold sorc? could this be useable

[brittle atlas]

freeze rate multi honestly not that great unless you're using it to scale frostbite, but that is the best wand base if you're scaling spell damage

[digital parrot]

i do have the snowdrift unique boots

[brittle atlas]

if you're doing snowdrift stuff then it might be decent

[iron gulch]

okay yeah i changed weapons with the only difference being the weapon's base attack rate and nothing changed

either way the formula goes the resulting number would be the same anyways i guess

[brittle atlas]

it should change, slightly delayed tho, dunno why but ye

changing weapons for me definitely reflects on the sheet

[iron gulch]

Okay I see the issue it takes into account normal base weapons, but it doesn't work when it's a unique weapon

[fiery salmon]

is there anyway to move these skill explanations from overlapping

its been this way for a long long time. Since i first bought the game like 8 months ago to now. when i recently started playing again after a break

[warm yew]

Kain has said they're supposed to not do that. Submit a big report.

!bug

[ripe brook]

To make sure a bug gets fixed, please post about it here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports.

[soft orchid]

Bad for clear and single target? I don’t get it

[true rivet]

just got invite to the CT. looking to get access to the CT specific forum spaces so that I can provide feedback and my feeling as I play through the game. Can any one help with that?

[urban horizon]

@delicate dust Can you help them

[cinder fossil]

might wanna ask in the ct discord, should have gotten an invite to that

[true rivet]

Thank you.

[soft orchid]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/YQWXpL9B what do you guys think about this

im trying to set up for as much lightning blast coverage as possible

and static orb shotgunning

i was thinking of trading static orb for lightning elemental nova then speccing ele nova to trigger off teleport but i didnt want to swap out static orb

[odd locust]

I won a CT tester, but my Discord invitation has expired. Who should I ask?

I'm worried that if I wait for the email, the same thing will happen again because the time doesn't match with me. 😭

It was resolved with a quick email reply. thank you

[barren pagoda]

What’s a ct tester lol

[odd locust]

Currently, we are continuously recruiting CT testers.

[soft orchid]

lol that doesnt answer his question at all

[urban horizon]

Ct = community tester they are currently testing alpha multiplayer.

[barren pagoda]

Lel oh, thx

[green knoll]

does this mean -5% resist debuff on hit? so at lvl 6 its -30% resistance on hit?

also what is maximum negative resist?

[urban horizon]

That would be -30% per hit correct and caps at 20 stacks. There isn't max negative res at least not one that is easily noticed since poison is the only ailment that can shred thousands of enemy res

[hollow socket]

Your build doesn't utilize ward, so I'd pick "scholar" for 8 points instead of "elementalist" for 4 because you'll need the health.

And with all your cast speed, you'll probably use up your arcane ascendance before you get to trigger superconductor a second time.

May be worth it for the 1 cast if you struggle for damage, but you won't need the points in "closed circuit".

I'd spec 1 point out of "higher plane" and utilize these 4 points to grab "mana surge" because free mana is worth more than gold to the average LE player ^^

[cold plaza]

imagine if you could watch a 30 second Ad to remove a Dodge modifier from your monolith 👀

[brittle atlas]

[warm yew]

Anyone know if the Lingering Memory node on Anomaly also triggers when the Time Bubble ends? (Effects of the time bubble persist for 2 seconds after leaving it)

[urban horizon]

It does

[hard prism]

How do a scale hammer throw? I’m a little confused what mods effect it.

Obviously throwing based mods do. But what about my base weapon damage, attack speed, cast speed, ect.

Also is there ever a time I would want to craft strength/Dex/Int/Attunment on a item over another mod?

[brittle atlas]

base weapon damage is melee, so it doesn't scale throwing attacks

generic attack speed and throwing attack speed scale throwing attacks

[warm yew]

Throwing skills are specifically excepted from having base stats of the item affect them. The exceptions being Javelin and Shield Throw.

[brittle atlas]

str/dex/int/etc are generally worth 4% increased damage per point, but some skills have special scaling otherwise

[warm yew]

You'll want all the mods for throwing if you're scaling your hammers - though most people only worry about the speed, since they're actually scaling Smite.

[brittle atlas]

and some items or passives can add additional effects that might incentivize stacking them

[warm yew]

^^

[brittle atlas]

those attributes also, in some cases, have a defensive benefit

like strength giving % armor, or intelligence giving ward retention

so some builds might opt to use them to get both benefits, scaling offense and defense off a single stat

Attributes also tend to be one of the few stats with defensive benefits available in prefix slots on items

[hard prism]

Woah very informative! Thank you! What about things like % phys damage. Does that apply to my weapon or to my phys damage skills like hammer throw

[brittle atlas]

all stats in last epoch are global

so % phys damage applies to all phys damage

regardless of if its throwing, spell, melee, damage over time, etc.

[hard prism]

Awesome thank you!!

[hard prism]

Ok last question sorry for annoying you knowledgeable people.

If I get the gladiator node that allows me to my dual wield, and the nodes that give me attack speed if I have a sword, and attack speed if a have an axe.

If I dual wield both a sword and an axe do I get both the perks of that node?

[cold plaza]

in the past yes. currently, no. They added some text to that node, if you hold down Alt.

[hard prism]

Gotcha so I’ll probably unspec it then and use a sword and shield on my hammer throw guy for a little more defensiveness

[glacial bison]

hi, is there a way to respec all of your passives at once? or i need to do it manually

[soft orchid]

how do i utilise ward better?

i havent looked into items yet

just sort of mashed two random build guides together

im only lvl 10 on my first character

[barren pagoda]

I was wondering this, are there no base weapon items in the game that give base throwing attack damage?

[soft orchid]

@hollow socket https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/YQWXpa9B hows this instead

havent moved elementalist points yet because i want to look into ward

seems more on theme for a mage

[wide sentinel]

maybe in next patch

[soft orchid]

im unsure in how to spec teleport

part of me wants to go for time dilation route and increase buff duration

other part wants to go bottom of the tree and spec more into ward

got these two specs

havent settled on either yet

[iron gulch]

If you use binary system + scattered + armageddon it creates two stars twice, does that mean each star procs a meteor near it or does it not proc meteors because stars =/= black hole?

[short stump]

Hey, got this from gambler + some lucky crafting, is it good for devouring orb autobomber?

Also I still need to find weapon before I switch to shield, is this base the best choice?

[sharp quartz]

Would definitely use the shield approach DOrb does so much damage that you will barely notice those boosts on the catalyst but you would notice anything that improves your defences much more... Kris... Nah, I'd go mage items with -mana costs...

[hollow socket]

It's absolutely fine to skip ward for the most part. As long as you get enough health.

The duration node on teleport is for when you use the free spell/+cooldown node, you won't need it.

I can look at the updated build tomorrow.

[ornate dragon]

Why can i proceed in this skill tree ? Anyone can help me out ?

[sharp quartz]

You have chosen Spellblade as a mastery... you can only do the first half of the Sorceror passive tree because of it. The chain indicates the cut off point... if you look, your spellblade tree will not have the chain

Mastery choice is the only permanent decision in the game right now.

[ornate dragon]

ohhh nooo so i have to respect and change the build ?

[sharp quartz]

You cannot respect out of Spellblade tho... you would need to roll a new char.

[ornate dragon]

time for new build i guess wont reroll thanks

[sharp quartz]

yip... once mastery is chosen, you are committed to skills & passives of the chosen mastery - in your case Spellblade... you can change skills and respec passives as many times as you like, but the mastery restricts you to your chosen masteries available trees and skills

[steep cypress]

Is there no way to know when a mastery locks you out of certain upgrades like that?

[keen viper]

Yes, always

Just look at the chain in passive trees

Anything past that chain is that mastery only