🔪┃rogue

[ebon jungle]

but i want health instead not t7 cascade

o_o

on that we cna go with

insanity...

from 3100 ward to 2874

hmm

[serene crane]

Thats... less than before?

[ebon jungle]

ye

cant say if its worth it

9% mana corruption sadge

[lyric smelt]

how do u solve mana issue with dancing strike?

i'm fine with rend but always oom with DS

[outer comet]

i loaded up a decent amount of mana regen

[ebon jungle]

no idea. how are you going oom with ds?

maybe im not going oom because im just lvling right now with shift

and it gives me 50-60 mana per use

[outer comet]

I was told by a couple of folks that if you are having mana issues with DS, you might need to take the point out of Perfect Choreography in the DS skill tree until you can sustain the mana a bit more.

[wispy hatch]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14sDiBzEib/ Anyone seen this video and tried it just curious. Wonder if its legit a build or just chinese meme build.

[steady cypress]

well it can one shot uberroth online here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Gak9JEuI8

it can also farm but need to turn off the bladeshield node I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WmmmqeRE1E

and half of the ladder actually uses it https://www.lastepochtools.com/ladders/shattered-omens/latest/softcore-1p/corruption/marksman

[lyric smelt]

it works

[ebon jungle]

i didnt even take that 🤔

[ebon jungle]

im able to sustain ds with +3 mana cost as well

another way to sustain it is the shadow path bottom

[ebon jungle]

so much damage im getting greedy

[dapper depot]

Can I ask for some advice?
I'm sitting quite rough on 500 corruption currently, trying to farm to improve my gear.
My Character.: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Zina/character/Reith
My current goal is Omnis farming (Which is proving quite difficult), any suggestion as to another possible focus (Don't be overwhelming).

[digital path]

shades are just kinda overtuned tbh

I'd suggest dropping a few hundred corruption and farm it with the confluence of oblivion

[dapper depot]

Thank you, that is a good suggestion actually

I thought the drop chance increased the higher the corruption?

[ebon jungle]

it increases a lot more with distance from the middle

if im not mistaken

300 corruption is fine and then you distance yourself

[dapper depot]

Thank you, I will give it a try

[small meteor]

damn is there a DS build in meta now?

[ebon jungle]

i dunno

[ebon jungle]

all i know is the one ive done shreds and move sthrough the map nicely

yet to do uber

[digital path]

it does but it looks like the shades (or the confluence at least) considers the corruption you'd be in after killing it when calculating the drops, instead of the corr you killed it on

[ebon jungle]

Takes me about a minute to complete a omens veil lol

shit just POPS when i hold dancing strike

its amazing

[flint turret]

First of all, how are you farming it? Are you aware of the imprint+reset timeline strat with echo chains for easy omnis farm?

[dapper depot]

No I am not aware of this strat. I finally got it, and it caused me to be able to remove a traitors tongue and replace it with eye of reen, boosting my damage immensely.

Still learning strats etc to optimize my gaming time

[flint turret]

Okay so strat is: you imprint confluence of oblivion, and any other high value echo for you. Then you get the node in weaver that makes all echoes spawn in chains. Then you just reset timeline until it spawns by completing the fight near the center and drpping corr by -10

Every 5-7 resets you should spawn a confluence that has really high chance of dropping omnis

[dapper depot]

I gotta take a screenshot of this - It's words I am not familiar with, and the LE lingo is still confusing to me.
But I truely appreciate it, I will learn

[flint turret]

As for the build and gear... There are plenty of ways to improve it, biggest one being swapping the set body to any decent unique 1lp body like null or core or wall or discord(since you are norlt using any primordial anyway) with t7 ward on shadow creation

[flint turret]

Okay lemme find a vid I saw it somewhere

[serene crane]

BinaQ has it

[flint turret]

https://youtu.be/oXRVELu45Jw?si=bbHzOij07A4UqXEg

[flint turret]

Further significant upgrades would be switching to throw cascade instead of melee and switching from Ds/sync to rend

First one is harder, second one you can do with your current gear mostly

Also quick and easy upgrade is to swap boots to skin boots. You don't need 2 sources of doom

[dapper depot]

But why the skin boots? I am not quite sure I follow that, why wouldn't I want more CD on my shift?

And thank you for the link, I will save it

[flint turret]

Because of huge damage boost to high hp enemies and some attack speed

You don't really need shift CD as much

[dapper depot]

Hmm alright, I think that might be my next farm goal, I got my Omnis, but it could be better (Of course 🤣)

Much obliged for all your assistance

[ebon jungle]

this is not bad tho right

1/3rd chance to get glancing

[naive saddle]

shrug

[ebon jungle]

no? sadge

[spare granite]

is tehre a build focussing on shuriken/chakram?

[naive saddle]

Normally I'd be looking for 100% avoidance

So that number above worries me more than glancing blows 😄

[ebon jungle]

Only if youre a pro at the game you go for blind

[naive saddle]

Eeew

[ebon jungle]

yeah yall are noobs

[naive saddle]

Is that why you're playing on 462c?

[ebon jungle]

ever heard of creating a character yesterday and having to farm blessings?

It isnt the gotcha moment you thought it was

[ebon jungle]

you mean selfcast?

[spare granite]

doesnt matter too much 😉

[ebon jungle]

my dancing strike revolves around loading up shurikens then casting bladestorm then moving away

there are strong bow builds that uses the shuriken on crit

[outer comet]

FWIW, I loaded up on mana regen in a couple of spots and got my mana regen over 17 (which is probably too high). Plenty of videos I saw recommended at least 14+ for sustaining DS spamming. At 17 I have zero problems, even on bosses. Combined with some mana returns in Shadow Cascade when that gets cast, I seem to have no issues.

[flint turret]

90% rogue smh

[charred pagoda]

What is it about the 2 falconer builds at the top that got them to such high corruption? Or is it more about time investment

[flint turret]

zhp ballisa same as before

offscreen clear + slver shroud gamble on orobyss

[naive saddle]

It's unlikely that there would be several classes that were both popular and very powerful.

[flint turret]

in 1.2-1.3 the least played mastery was bd afaik

so its constantly changing every season

this season is just the biggest one for rogue ever

[serene crane]

Sad that Bladedancer only exists there because of Rend which isnt even BD skill, otherwise we would still be at 1.2 BD numbers

[pure hound]

is there a difference in dmg between the bow shadow rend builds vs the melee?

[flint turret]

the difference is that bow shadow rend build doesnt exist

in a wide meaning

one can argue that melee rend doesnt exist either without a cascade tho

[serene crane]

Luckily Cascade is 5bd point skill that accessable to everyone 😄

[pure hound]

haha, I saw lizard running the bow variant and thought it'd be cool if it could match similar to the melee but I guess not

[flint turret]

i havent seen it so dunno

[pure hound]

i wonder what is the point then since melee already hits far anyway

[flint turret]

if you link it we could discuss

[pure hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNI_2kS3roY

it looks like this

[serene crane]

This is the 2nd time ambush Shade dropped amulet and 2nd time its this crap, what a bait

[pure hound]

i was debating it cause the kuzons fury variant is an eye-check and makes me blind

[serene crane]

ngl I'd rather grind for 0LP Shuriken Drelk 😄

[flint turret]

its hardly a rend build, itss just a worse multishot variant

[pure hound]

Oh 💀

[flint turret]

and it looks worse in everything than multishot shurike

mine is not nearly as good geared as some high-end ones but you can compare the clear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfjI6Wlx8nI with 0lp bow and basically white quiver and no frenzy source

[naive saddle]

Looks like a meh multishot

[ebon jungle]

imagine this altar being better than any pyramid ive found

[ebon jungle]

holee

got 2 3lp exsang

prayge

only the first is ok missing health is not ideal

needa reroll em first before corrupt

[outer comet]

Couldn't get away from that lightning res. Bummer.

[ebon jungle]

could not :<

Getting that 122% inc damage alongside health would be very nice

if first one hits x% missing health ward thingy thats still very huge

my current doesnt

[outer comet]

Yeah, would be nice to hit that corruption. My luck is that I brick it with a complete ruining of the item.

[ebon jungle]

this doesnt increase my tooltip dps on cascade

with the 60% inc dmg to skills used byt shadows

bugged or something to just ignore?

[unique umbra]

Does ambush shade reset the timeline?

[unique umbra]

Tooltip doesn’t account for it but it is definitely what you want for dps

[outer comet]

I've always felt the tooltip was off with those stats. Probably the case.

[serene crane]

No it doesnt

[unique umbra]

It doesn’t know how many shadows you will have e at any given time so it doesn’t calculate it.

[ebon jungle]

that makes more sense

[unique umbra]

If you spawn a bunch of shadows and hover your tooltip you will see some changes. Like I think for me with sync strike and flow my tooltip on SC changes from 270k to nearly 3M

[ebon jungle]

how do i evne see my shadows tho

i see tooltip going to 2.6m for example

should i not see shadows on my buff icons?

[unique umbra]

It’s the buff with the person inside a black circle. Looks similar to the dusk shroud buff.

[digital path]

usually by having a lightsource behind you

[ebon jungle]

i almost feel like the 50% dmg node for cascade is useless

as i dont see shadows spawning against st bosses

i get 5 shadows because of the kill node vs pvm

[outer comet]

Oh, you are using Shift instead of Smoke Bomb, right?

[ebon jungle]

yeah for now

helps with mana issues a bunch

[outer comet]

Once you get to SB, you'll have a 1-2 shadows generated each time you use it. Then the dmg nodes for cascade will be felt more

[ebon jungle]

i hate sb for this build so much

[unique umbra]

If you use sync strike you can instantly make 4. If you use the set bonus you can get 1 on every evade and two on shift/sb.

Then sb can also create one per sec.

If you use rend you can have max shadows all the time.

[ebon jungle]

🤨

[unique umbra]

happy to hop in discord and discuss options to help with shadow creation and mana depending on what you build goals are

[ebon jungle]

got no plausible mic to use otherwise i would but im already limited as is

cant change any of these other than shift but its between shift and sb

[unique umbra]

What gear are you wearing?

[outer comet]

Refresh my memory, but you are doing DS but mostly melee focused and not throwing focused, right?

[ebon jungle]

lemme link ya

no its throw focused

literally got 1k crit multi i believe

for throw

[outer comet]

oh....then we are running nearly the same thing, except some gear differences here or there.

[ebon jungle]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/shpetan/character/dancingdelulu

yeah i opted with jaw if you dont have that

[unique umbra]

If you're throwing focused any reason to not replace DS? Just preference?

[ebon jungle]

simply to maximize skills

much more fun

ds allows you to generate

then you throw bladestorm

and you move away

repeat

you can still attack melee

not a issue

[unique umbra]

oic, you are not using any of the new set, that's definitely going to make the shadow options rough

[ebon jungle]

what set kek

the shadow set that rend peepz use?

[unique umbra]

yep. it's incredible for all builds with SC or shadows in general

[ebon jungle]

gotchu and yeah probably

it got me thinking when i had taken that node for 2 shadows right

and it wasnt generating any against bosses

[serene crane]

It'd probably be pretty mid at best damage, but Atropos stacks from Dancing Strikes then throw Detonate Bladestorm might be cool 😄

[unique umbra]

you're so deep in your current gear I don't know if it would even be viable to think about right now though

[ebon jungle]

nope the build would change

[unique umbra]

if anything maybe just replacing your relic and helm would be good

[ebon jungle]

its actually not bad at all

ill see what i can do

i gots le IDEA

😏

lets see how this goes

[serene crane]

Well it works, I just guess the damage wont really be something amazing, but who knows 😄

[ebon jungle]

the aim is to do uber at least

after that i dont care

i know this can do 1kc at least

even with just 2 tongues

thanks to arcitecht

[outer comet]

True. The damage isn't one-shot Ubberoth. But I've seen derivatives do Ubberoth in 1 min.

And I'm running Architect with 2 tongues and I'm currently running about 1100 corr with ease.

[ebon jungle]

listen guys

sincerely

if my fkn dragonsong build can do it under 2 minutes

given how scuffed it is

like if this doesnt ima off this character in this video game

all im saying

[outer comet]

My Ubberoth skills are non-existent. Which is why I don't have any kills logged. But it's entirely viable for Uber Ab

[serene crane]

tbh the shuriken procs just do a huge part of the job

[outer comet]

True. You mostly just use Dancing Strikes to move around the screen and look cool. lol. Otherwise it's there to deliver Shurikens, Shadow Cascade, and the Arena buff.

[unique umbra]

This could be really huge for you.

[serene crane]

DS just gives you some big global damage to other stuff

[ebon jungle]

thats the whole point

[ebon jungle]

thats the relic right

[unique umbra]

yep

you can reforge it

I'd keep the set as the T7 though, maybe lower the DS to 2 or 3 with a T5/T6

[ebon jungle]

but like

[unique umbra]

The thing is with your build it seems like your much more focused on actions you take and not so much actions your shadows take

[ebon jungle]

what would be the useful part of it is my question

[serene crane]

t5 should be okay, you already have +4 and +2 from Velocyn and Tongue 😄

[ebon jungle]

im not generating shadows reliably

so im trying to see if i can apart from ds

preferably in motion

[serene crane]

Doppel relic might be nice If you played the Cascade trigger node in DS with Shift for shadow and maybe even the node in DS that creates shadow too, but that one is +5 mana cost and overall its like 8 skill points 😄

[unique umbra]

30% chance that every time your shadow use Shuriken or Shadow Cascade it creates a new shadow.
Also flat 10% crit for shadows would allow you to free up so much crit in your trees.

If everything you do is focused on your actions and you're not really using or genrating shadows for your primary damage then it's not worth it probably.

I think this originally started based on the question about the idol effect of damage with shadows, if you want to make use of that then the relic would be clutch.

[ebon jungle]

dont you see i got 33 in ds. soon 34

[ebon jungle]

There is no crit to be freed on the tree LOL

im crit capped

i wouldnt have been if i didnt use jaw

which then the relic woulda been useful that way

so maybe its worth giving it a shot

[serene crane]

Just this alone is awful amount of points tho 😄

[ebon jungle]

nothing else thats useful

although i do wonder

just how much shadow dagger does

[outer comet]

I'm currently playing with that right now.

[ebon jungle]

shadow dagger?

[outer comet]

I'm not sure exactly how much damage it's doing, tbh

[ebon jungle]

225k dps

u need to reach 4 stacks in order for it to do damage

[unique umbra]

it would be an investment, but you could replace the peak of the mountain and still crit 100%

[outer comet]

Yeah, but with all the damage being thrown around by shurikens, i can't tell what's shadow daggers. lol

[serene crane]

Yea thats what Im saying, that would be like the only reason to take Doppel relic for something like this, Shadow generation from Shift is whatever low and there is no SMoke Bomb for shadows anyway

[ebon jungle]

ive had that in mind this whole time

[ebon jungle]

me neither lol

[unique umbra]

dude nice corrupt on your dagger btw

[ebon jungle]

smex

o wait ds doesnt get +1 from throwing

[unique umbra]

is pretty solid defensive layer if you create a lot of shadows, but even with the relic I still don't see you creating a ton of shadows really fast, rend is kinda the enabler for that unless you invest those pts in DS and do it that way then you could church them out

[ebon jungle]

lost 5% ms i cant live with that..

i lied

its good

[unique umbra]

on belt is so helpful for mana issues

[serene crane]

Its also the increased effect of haste, so thats also some %inc dmg lost unless you got it on another boots too 😄

Its insanely criminal DS cant be played with 2H... might be so much with Bo staff for the shurikens... 😄

[unique umbra]

I wouldn't get rid of your boots. Those boots are fire.

[outer comet]

Truth. I'd love to see 2H builds with it. But alas...

[unique umbra]

i gg back to work guys, hope you find some good options for your build

[ebon jungle]

preciate you silver

ill think about it

see what i can do first

[unique umbra]

if you're COF hunt some set relics and corrupt them, they often will reforge into some nasty 6/6/7s or crazy reforged things, it's a crap shoot corrupting but you can find something nice for little investment sometimes.

This is the one I use, but I crafted it the hard way.

[ebon jungle]

@outer comet shadow dagger there on ds doesnt do much

[serene crane]

You could try Skin/Vaion or some nice rolled Weaver boots, that can also give you a bit of Ward whenever you refresh Haste

[ebon jungle]

i took it off to test

so now ill save 3 pts

[outer comet]

Noted. I'll readjust my DS points too. I just figured it was something to look into for DS since it would generate those daggers quickly

[ebon jungle]

now i didnt oneshot abberoth

kek

wat the fook

maybe unlucko dps

cuz i still am bad with using the bladestorm proper

[serene crane]

You probably dont really need 3 points in Broad Dancing either, could take more Rhytm stacks tbh

[ebon jungle]

already taken it off

it was good for clearing

[unique umbra]

don't fprget of upi replace your relic you lose the explosive trap effect from the guise

[serene crane]

same with that 1point in Haste there

[ebon jungle]

i mean its the best route to get shuriken etc

but

i can now take it off

and put 2pts in area if i need the area

[serene crane]

Yea but you're already going with the upper route to Rhytm stacks 😄

[ebon jungle]

4.8m cascade

lulz

i need more attack speed

[ebon jungle]

thenk u

im able to create only 1 shadow

so if i want consistent dps and save 1 point i take 1 point off there

[outer comet]

I was looking into that in SC too. I found that with smoke bomb, my attack speed was too fast to generate two shadows between SC uses in the DS combo. Mapping I don't have a problem with shadow generation, but bosses, I needed to figure out if 25% guaranteed damage was better than occasional 50% damage.

[serene crane]

Quicksilver Coil and Skin boots 😄

thats up to 23% If you get max rolls

could also get lucky with Tongue corruption, but thats just gamba and without a backup one it kinda sucks 😄

[ebon jungle]

taking off dark blades from ds renders it useless

well not really

bladestorm triggers it still

having only 1 shadow for cascade boosts it quite nicely

ima try something

yeah so the damage from dark blades actually is huge

as long as you plan to att ack with ds @outer comet

[outer comet]

Yeah. I do most of my delivery of all the skills via DS

[ebon jungle]

def worth keeping

[outer comet]

Only when mapping do I bust out Shadow Cascade key presses for screen clears

[ebon jungle]

like i dont get it

suddenly i cant dps aberoth at all

whats going on

lol

[serene crane]

Well thats sad what did you do? 😄

[ebon jungle]

less area of effect on ds

[serene crane]

That shouldnt matter 🤔

[outer comet]

It might if you are applying a bit of distance. Otherwise, you have to give Abberoth a warm hug.

[ebon jungle]

im just not hitting consistenyl..?

what the actual fk is going on

i love how the devs managed to break the game with the new patch again

everytime i do abberoth the loot gets stuck on the screen

[serene crane]

Whenever slightly weird sh!t start beginning, I just restart the game... maybe verify Steam files 😄

[ebon jungle]

another thing also is that this way

i have max stacks on the thingy so i should do more dps

HUHHHHHHHHHHHH

IT AINT NO WONDER

WHEN THE GAME IS BUGGED

WHAT THE FK DO YOU MEAN I CANT DAMAGE ABBEROTH

[outer comet]

That's....odd.

[serene crane]

Bro is playing on Quin69 launcher

[ebon jungle]

dude

im dealing way less damage

for some dumb reason

13k on orbiter?!?!?!

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

I LITEARLLY DEAL 100KS OF DAMAGE

ive managed to bug the living shite out of my build

it deals 99% less damage on bosses now

[serene crane]

If stuff is getting bugged, I wouldnt be surprised If Aberroth got bughed to have his phase DR all the time or something like that

Have you done full restart?

[ebon jungle]

im literally dealing less damage overall a

even having issues clearing echos

on bosses, champs

the damage is skipping

litearlly

[outer comet]

that's strange. this isn't what i would consider a bursty DPS build. It's pretty much steady between Bladestorms/Shurikens/Shadow Cascades

[ebon jungle]

exactly even with bladestorm alone i should have great dps. thats the whole build

now the deeps is back

panic deluxe

against abberoth it just goes missing

yes my movement is beyond garbage

[serene crane]

You know what, Im gonna make a new Rogue too, even tho my poor mana stacking Flay lich is literally 3 days old 😄

[ebon jungle]

[serene crane]

How much ward would this give you with all the DS+Shuri hits? 😄

[ebon jungle]

is that even a question

yes

answer is yes

[serene crane]

Yes indeed

I lowkey wanna do bleed again but that just sounds like a bad idea 🤔

[serene crane]

stick

[kind adder]

@ebon jungle trying to make a pure DS planner is pain 😭

[ebon jungle]

its near impossible

[serene crane]

From one Ancient Era to another Ancient Era Peak Ancient Era moment

[kind adder]

I need a ridiculous amount of points in DS for it to do damage, but that means I can't go LL so I lose out on more damage and defense, I have to run traitors to cap crit which means I can't run velocyn, or I can but then I can't run astral, so I have to run exsang, but then I lose more points in DS

It's basically sacrifice points in DS to run lowlife and cap crit, or maximize points in DS but almost impossible to cap crit and have no defense

Pain

[serene crane]

Maybe Gladiator's Oath so 100% crit chance while in the DS arena? 😄

@ebon jungle how about these weaver idols

[ebon jungle]

would probably be good

given all the more % esp crit multi you want as much flat

if i had flat on my amulet id have so much more dmg

btw i uninstalled last epoch that was the last straw

[serene crane]

lol

[ebon jungle]

i went thru 4 classes during the 3 weeks im played its time to let it go 😂

[serene crane]

Yea kinda same here 😄 I'll probably do this last character and call it until 1.5... hopefully that brings some big content

[ebon jungle]

also jaw dagger provided 39% pen btw

[serene crane]

Yea I know, but... more is more 😄

[ebon jungle]

Didnt do shit in terms of damage

[serene crane]

what kind of Temu Dragonsong is this

[left glen]

what's the meta belt base for low life bladedancers this season?

been using strand and it feels Fine

but wondered if there's something better i missed

[serene crane]

Chains of Uleros is great

[left glen]

provided i remember potions exist...

[outer comet]

FWIW, I've been using Thorn Slinger.

[serene crane]

...well, Lagoon died before he even got the chance to wake up...

[outer comet]

I guess no time like the present to learn the Uber Abberoth fight. Time to die a lot while learning...

[outer comet]

Damn, I'm learning. Got him down to shield at 20%.

[serene crane]

Looks like a great start

[outer comet]

Considering I knew nothing of this fight other than a couple of videos that didn't do it justice, I think I'm doing all right. Especially considering I'm not one-shotting this guy. I have to actually move around and stick and move with this LL DS guy.

And got him.

[unique umbra]

I have multiple LP3 tongues, should i keep and creation this or havoc for 7 AS, 6 CS, 5 pen?

[serene crane]

That would be great, just 19FP might get unlucky 😄

[unique umbra]

yeah i think i'm not going to risk it

i have almost no pen right now so the T6 pen is probably close to the same anyway. My CSM is 439% without the dagger, it would be going up to 478% as T5

[serene crane]

Yea then this is super fine 😄

[warm zephyr]

is there any way to make Lethal Mirage's cooldown not so long without Black Blade?

[serene crane]

Could use two of those, or just good old cooldown reduction

[warm zephyr]

ah, rip. ok. was trying to see if I could make some kind of weird Harmony build using a boatload of % increased area

[serene crane]

Black Blade would be just best, farming it kinda sucks with Lagoon and all the crap aroud it, but now with corruption into max rolls its pretty nice

[outer comet]

Just to make sure it wasn't just a fluke, I killed him again for good measure. 😉

[serene crane]

Better make it for the third time for good luck

[outer comet]

I'm starting to think it's time to imprint the echo on the weaver tree.

[serene crane]

Only 1LP, but feels good

[kind adder]

You doing lightning LM?

[glad slate]

my ultimate blade dancer, 1 year of farming https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/fr/albator88/character/Zaya

[wary cedar]

grrrr Franzosen 😡

[glad slate]

???

[serene crane]

Not really, done it in 1.2... just doing this for fun 😄

[serene crane]

Its nice to see someone playing Bladestorm with Blade Frenzy... lookd tanky af and I guess damage on uber with all of this is pretty wild?

[glad slate]

Yes, it hits hard and it's very robust.

[jagged thunder]

hello, can someone explain why maxroll shadow cascade build has strength on rings? https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-cascade-bladedancer-guide

I thought it would be dex or throwing damage?

[serene crane]

No reason at all, 🥔 baked guide... the only reasons to ever go strength is for "%inc melee damage per str"; Brutality corruption on amulets or unique Cleaver Solution axe that makes your int equal to your strength (used to be a thing for lowlife builds for %ward retention)... other than this its just armor

The corruption is on Reen in Aspirational gear; but at that point there are just better corruptions and better swords than Reen

[jagged thunder]

ah okey, so if I'm just starting on this build, what do I go? just dexterity?

[serene crane]

Either Dex or Throw dmg+cost... the cost wont really do much here since Cascade is still melee, but Umbrals and Shadow Daggers will get more damage

[jagged thunder]

okey, thank you!

[narrow laurel]

Im newish to the game, following maxroll guide for Shadow Rend Bladedancer. My main issue is that i dont have enough understanding to figure out if generated loot filter is good enough. Is it or should i look elsewhere?

[wary cedar]

you can always create your own lootfilter

[narrow laurel]

Just said that i dont have enough understanding to recognize if it is good let alone to make my own. 🙂

[wary cedar]

can't help you with thast since i never used pre build filters

my point is, that if you 're new to the game, creating your own filter would help you understand things in this game

[serene crane]

No idea what kind of lootfilter is there on maxroll for the build, but for a new players, I wouldnt really trust them, they often tend to hide a lot of stuff that can be possibly useful for you even If not for the build you're currently playing... check this message, Raxx has a very adjustable lootfilter with a video where he explains how his works or I just like mine, I tried to write some short notes to each rule to what check-box to check for whatever you wanna have there
#🔪┃rogue message

[wary cedar]

watching the video and figuering out this filter takes the same amount of time creating a own filter

[serene crane]

Yeah, not wrong... 😄

Even with most of the rules there serve only as explanations, seeing like 170-180 rules is a bit spooky

[wary cedar]

also if you want to adjust things, looking through 170 rules all the time feels like a waste of time

i rather adjust things in my own 20 rule filter that i created my own

so it's also a better investment for later on

[serene crane]

Yeah same.. my current one has 33 rules; 4 of them are turned off and 1 of those 4 is just to hide 0LP uniques after turtle gen0ciding them 😄

[weak wave]

the raxx filter is good but need a lot adjustment but at the moment its the best i found after change some rules 😉

[serene crane]

Its good, but not really something I'd recommend to a new player tbh... someone with a bit of experience with the game, sure, but still at some points its just better to make your own

[weak wave]

i was wondering because i found no gloves with champion suffix for shadows after change some rules i found a lot🤯

[wary cedar]

😱

[kind adder]

I use raxx's filter because I'm afraid if I make my own, I'll forget to show something important and I'll miss out on some really good drops lol

FOMO got me bad in this game

[serene crane]

Naah its not that bad 😄

[jagged thunder]

I tried the maxroll filter today because I wanted to try their blade dancer build and was too lazy to make a filter and it's rainbow vomit on the floor 😂 can't tell what's good or not but if you are not yet used to your loot filter style, getting used to maxroll ones might not be bad for you

[kind adder]

I'll make my own filter when I'm bored and don't have anything else to do lol

[serene crane]

Feel free to steal my or just check the rules, or can always ask here, thats the easiest thing to do 😄

[serene crane]

such sad rolls... 😄

[kind adder]

Just fix it 4head

[serene crane]

Nemesis will brick it anyway

[kind adder]

Real and true

[half nova]

Corrupt it and pray

[unique umbra]

Think I'm done. Whew.

[unique umbra]

What a fun season.

[unique umbra]

lol I learned this this hard way. Made my own filter and immediately realized I missed a unique belt drop after I left the zone and it was too late.

Luckily that wasn’t on long before it got fixed.

[kind adder]

Why am I just now realizing shadow daggers scale with melee AND throwing damage

[mossy nexus]

does anyone know if the effect of experimental affixes on potion use get activated when elecoe's body consumes a potion?

[unique umbra]

I’d assume they do, but you can probably get a more definite answer in the ask the devs channel.

[wary cedar]

@serene crane tell me your wisdom

[serene crane]

Before closing the door to your house, make sure you have keys to get back in

[wary cedar]

good thing i never leave my appartment

but other then that, i need a new build that can motivate me playing the game xd

[serene crane]

Well I kinda ran out of motivation by now... 😄 there was this block build with Bo's staff and self casting shurikens

[wary cedar]

doesnt need to be a rogue build

something niche thats good in clearing tho

[serene crane]

Some hammer throw sentinel? 😄 Judgement paladin looked good geared up, you just run and stuff dies around you

[wary cedar]

hammer throw requieres aiming no?

[serene crane]

There is a node that makes the hammers to spin around you

[wary cedar]

isnt that just shuriken reskined?

[serene crane]

Kinda, just in bigger aoe 😄

[quartz gust]

Shield Throw is amazing

[kind adder]

There was a werebear thorn totem build I saw that looked pretty cool using Laup's

[quartz gust]

It's very strong

Got pretty good clear as well using potion cooldown tech

[kind adder]

I need a new build 😭 feeling the burnout now

[pure hound]

how does these two node interact with each other?
Shadow infusion is supposed to consume my shadows for ward but wave of darkness says it doesn't get consumed immediately and i noticed that when i sync strike 2 times in a row i end up with more shadows than get consumed

[marble gorge]

I'm looking at Ballista builds and I don't get why people aren't taking the Frigid Barrage node even when they're wearing Mourningfrost. If you're stacking dex to get a ton of cold damage, wouldn't taking that node scale your damage even higher?

[cobalt mantle]

All that does is convert the base and untyped flat damage, and I don't think you take a lot of actual cold scaling, should mostly be generic scaling so the base fire damage scales almost the same

[marble gorge]

Thx bro!

[broken barn]

Man I have been playing this perra gaming Rogue build with trash gear and still able to do 1k corruption with ease its insane. Funny thing is the drops dont seem better from 300 corruption. Haven't tried Ubby yet.

[sacred igloo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/phuongnamvu17/character/aUsUd_NewAgain
guys what should I target farm to upgrade. I think maybe sword or relic. Also I saw a lot of ppl taking rhythm on shadow rend build but is it that good if you just spam shadow rend?

[dapper depot]

Morning gents

[crimson latch]

Wake me up when we have a tier S bow build

[wary cedar]

shuriken multishot

[crimson latch]

That’s melee for me

[serene crane]

Only with Blade Shield

[kind adder]

I'm full sending a Mana Det Arrow marksman

I'm determined to make it comfortable for all content... see yall in season 6 lol

[crimson latch]

Planner ? Link?

[wary cedar]

Check the Ladder there is only one bow player on top

its not me tho

[desert bridge]

I really want to make mana stack Puncture Marksman work but I've never really pushed it

[wary cedar]

what would this look like?

[desert bridge]

Using the "Charged" puncture nodes, then Mind Piercer gives 4% phys pen per 15 max mana

Just stack enough mana so that you one-shot everything

You use the node that makes bow attacks cost more, then the one that makes them get more damage from mana cost, and the quiver that gives more damage with stack

Crystalwind

So you evade -> puncture -> evade -> puncture

[wary cedar]

ok ok

do you have a planner for this tho?

[charred pagoda]

i like the playstyle of the hydra bow autobomber build using ballista / esplosive trap, but the only builds i see are zhp in softcore. is there any good way to make that build tanky for hc? or will that sacrifice too much dmg?

[desert bridge]

SUPER rough, just tossed it together real quick. I thought I had one saved but I guess not: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BakEX79r

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (34) / Marksman (72)

General:

▸ Health: 1,425, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,307.59, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 65/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 18 Dex / 17 Int / 8 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 24% / 24% / 24% / 0% / 0% / 8% / 8%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 493
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (440)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (692)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Puncture / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Heartseeker / Dark Quiver

[wary cedar]

i just dont see it being good

it would need more things that scale on mana for it to work

[desert bridge]

I dunno, 400% penetration from mana is pretty significant

[wary cedar]

how much is that doing for the dmg tho?

is it like times 4 with that?

[desert bridge]

400% Penetration = 400% more damage, effectively

(additive with other penetration/shred)

And Ethereal arrows is adding mana cost as More damage, and Penumbral Ambush gives a mana cost to Puncture

I'm not sure if the added mana consumed by Black Arrows or Coated Blades counts as mana cost for Ethereal Arrows, though

[wary cedar]

hmm i m unsure if you can sustain the mana tho
feels like you running empty really fast

[desert bridge]

Possibly

I haven't ever gotten it all put together, but it'd be easy to drop aspects of the mana cost to make it more sustainable

[wary cedar]

its about 80-90 something mana for one puncture

if you plan on using heartseeeker or any other skill

it also 50 at least

maybe a meele version would be better somehow

[desert bridge]

You'd have to give up the charged puncture for melee, the melee version just gets bigger AOE, which is garbo

[wary cedar]

ik ik

but the bow bonus isnt that big

or wait nvm

ya i mean

[desert bridge]

Longshot and Crystalwind are both big More multipliers, too

[wary cedar]

if you can get as equal value from meele version with better sustain and all that it would be worth

[desert bridge]

40% from longshot, 60% from crystalwind, then another 30% from the "more damage at range" corruptions, if you can get them

[trim zodiac]

wats the cheapest way to get over 100 ms

[wary cedar]

i can see it for bossing tho

i just dont belive in the clear xd

[desert bridge]

Heartseeker is for clear

Straight Through will proc a bunch of punctures for free instead of the expensive cost

Puncture only costs mana for direct casts

[wary cedar]

shooting the 3 heartseeker arrows is 210 mana

[desert bridge]

🤷‍♀️ Similarly, you can probably drop the mana cost stuff if it gets too cumbersome

I also dunno how it'll play, I haven't tried it since before Heartseeker was even a skill 😝

Coated Blades is probably the LAST thing you put skill points into.

[wary cedar]

i just feel like giga investing in mana for only one stat that scales with it isnt good somehow

[desert bridge]

Definitely fair

There might be a midpoint version that tries to get to around like... 600 mana or something

And doesn't use Coated Blades at all

[wary cedar]

i had some build ideas about stacking health regen; i would've got health regen from strength, could convert that to intelligence and rampancy if i wanted to, healt regen would also give me melee cold dmg increase and with the right corruptions also ward per second per health regen and meele dmg per strength

that scaling felt better in theory

[desert bridge]

Scaling feels kinda bunk this season in general. The Omen encounters are insane for any build that doesn't just instantly clear the screen

[wary cedar]

i think the puncture build is missing some skill we dont have yet

that can support it good

just like the idea i had with health regen which is missing a good cold melee skill for it xd

[desert bridge]

Yeah, I wonder if the last skill in Bladedancer will be a cold skill of some sort

[flint turret]

At this point I don't even know what I want to be the last bd skill. I guess some good direct damage one, because we already got an alternative to sync for shadow spamming

Because I'm also a bit tired of cascade dominating the bd scene

But I also wouldn't mind if it ends up shadow daggers, because it's kinda the bd "thing" but it's not viable in high end at all

[wary cedar]

Convert Shadow Daggers to cold dmg

🔥

[serene crane]

2H for cascade and DS, possible conversions for so many skills either from skill tree or some unique/set... plenty of stuff to be done

[kind adder]

Oh I never realized there was a cap on the amount of mana that DA can consume

So there's no point in getting more than 400 mana because it'll cap at 100 at that point

[kind adder]

So if you have 400 current mana, DA will consume 100, coated blades will consume 40, and DA mana cost goes up to 14 with Mana Warp passive for a total of 154 mana per arrow. Puncture can get you back 4, plus 8 from sapping strikes, plus another 15 also from Mana Warp is 27 mana per Puncture, so 6 punctures will get you 155 mana. I don't imagine I would need a whole lot of attack speed to get 6 punctures in 3ish seconds, so that seems very sustainable

Now the question is Hydra Bow for the bigger flat damage potential but low LP, or Gathering Fury for decent flat lightning and easiest 2LP of my life

[granite rover]

Quick question, how can I get 90 stack of silver shroud. The max I can get up to is 30

Not sure if I am missing some nodes

[unique umbra]

if you mean dusk shroud the set helm and the skill shadow rend give it

[kind adder]

If you're a melee build, the chance to gain dusk shroud on melee hit affix is really nice

[serene crane]

Explosive Trap can get you some decent amount too; If you spawn shadows and consume, then Doppelganger helmet+relic is just the best, then it kinda goes up with attack speed

[scenic mauve]

hi does concentration bug from last season has been fix ?

[serene crane]

I didnt have any issue with it 🤔

[scenic mauve]

ok

[unique umbra]

Just hit the 3000 club.

[naive saddle]

gz! Keep pumping

[wary cedar]

Have you tought about Melee DA?

[serene crane]

Fire melee DA with Ember amu going for ignites might be fun... maaaybe not the best... but fun 😄

[wary cedar]

did you forgot health regen cold DA?????

i hope it will be more viable next season x)

[serene crane]

Well that was your job...

[wary cedar]

if you give me the motivation

i m thinking about playing warframe

but idk

[serene crane]

Yea I dont even have any motivation to do anything myself...

[wary cedar]

i also started a new terraria run 🍑

[serene crane]

I just want more things like the "shuriken on bow crit" but to have something like "shuriken on melee crit hit" or something; together with other conversions so you could do more builds than like 4 with lowkey strict items...

[wary cedar]

i would love a way to better sustain the mana for health regen melee DA 😔

[serene crane]

If only this didnt suck so much...

[wary cedar]

yea i hate the concept of having one spender and one mana sustain skill

if i could spam the sustain skill and proc all the big dmg and mana consuming on traversal skills it would be so much cooler

so i only have to hold down one attack, one button for movement

and maybe a third one for smoke bomb or decoy

but adding another attack button is just no fun

😔

[serene crane]

Cant even spawn any shadows for possible Cascades...

with DA, I mean

[wary cedar]

but i think i found a better mana sustain skill for health regen DA i guess

Cinder strike

let's you stack flow better so you can use this which is a win

and you get this

it aint much but at least it's something

[serene crane]

Yea the mana from CS and Sapping is nice If you get some high attack speed

[wary cedar]

and then i use this on DA

but on higher corruption i wont kill anything with cinder strike then xd

maybe cold conversion for cinder strike will make it viable

[serene crane]

Idk, this alone is 5 points for what... 50% more damage and it probably eats through your mana like crazy? 😄

[wary cedar]

more dmg per mana consumed: 2%

isnt that 200%?

[serene crane]

Yea

[wary cedar]

so i can do like 3 melee DA

with around 400 mana

and then sustain again

xd

but those 3 melee DAs have
200 flat + 2000% increased + 200% cirt multi + 200 more dmg

plus flow bonus

plus rampancy bonus

and since i need to sustain anyway i could take the cooldown node on DA for even more dmg xd

[serene crane]

You can get few extra charges for that, so probably worth it 😄

[wary cedar]

but if we ever get cold Cinder strike just use this as main skill xd

[serene crane]

If you get t7 throw/-mana on one ring, you could take Explo Trap and Sapping Strikes, thats like the only skill with cold conversion that could get you mana 😄 flurry/puncture/shuri/CS sadly have none... 😄

[wary cedar]

Cold Traps is no melee dmg

so it wouldnt matter

[serene crane]

Sapping Strikes doesnt care If its melee or ranges, only If its 0 mana skill 😄

[wary cedar]

i can use every other sustain skill for it

cinder strike

shurikens

puncture

so why would traps be better?

[serene crane]

Yea just Explo trap can apply cold res shred, so you wouldnt have to take it as Blessing

[wary cedar]

i would need a T7 affix

so doesnt really matter ig

[serene crane]

What probably matters is which one of the skills can fill your 400mana pool faster 😄

[wary cedar]

i just think the game isn't ready for my idea yet xd

[serene crane]

If you get t7 attack speed on Jlekhor and Shattered Lance sword, then it might be CS/Flurry, ideally both with Sapping

The game is ready, devs are not ready... 😄

[wary cedar]

what's wrong with the ladder btw?

[serene crane]

CS has already its own fire ele shred and fire pen... and the oil coating can work for elemental damage not just fire... like this skill is ideal to have all the conversions possible

[wary cedar]

maybe we should wait for the full release

[serene crane]

@keen snow how did your Bo's Falconer go? 🤔

[keen snow]

didn't build it, got sidetracked with some acolyte shenanigans

[serene crane]

Understandable maaaaybe I'll try it out... lvling with shurikens was already ez enough since it just shreds bosses to pieces... just some late game will probably suck a bit :c

maybe one day we'll some actual Rogue staff and something for Dex=>Int conversion...

[serene crane]

ngl, Shuriken needs to be instant cast without the stand-in-place stop to cast it... 😄

[keen snow]

you'll have yo-yoing health with leech I think

[serene crane]

Probably yea... its pretty melee already and Im not really a fan of Sync Strike.. but we'll see how it goes

[keen snow]

at least it hits really fast with a bunch of shurikens spinning around you so you don't have to wait for long to start leeching after taking a hit

[serene crane]

Soul Gambler amu could be interesting, but getting enough crit without Peak and Tongue sounds super bad... 😄

Might be interesting with Bladestorm tho, pretty much perma uptime

[flint turret]

im leaning towards shuriken on bow crit not surviving another season. too good to be true, even tho the prerequisite is horrendous

plot twist: shuriken on bow crit replaced with multishot on throwing crit(i think this one makes more sense for mm)

[serene crane]

I'd more expect some throw nerfs overall than just some shuriken nuke

So we could make a Bladedancer with main ability being Net that could proc Multishot... sign me up

@flint turret since you're still hanging around and no full-on-addicted to Olden Era, how does stacking this affix work? Is there any point going beyond 100%? 🤔

[flint turret]

42h since relese

there is no point going over 100, at 100% exactly it loses phys tag

[serene crane]

Sadge... I guess I just stick to physical then

[flint turret]

first homm im actually enjoying since homm 4. i know 4 is controversial and "experimental" but for me it was pretty great. arguably best music in the entire series and lots of inetersting innovations

i know lots of people like 5 but it didt do that for me sadly

[kind adder]

Nah, I don't hate myself that much lmfaooo

That cinder strike idea is good tho

May swap to that from puncture

[serene crane]

I had few hundreds of hours in homam3 as a kiddo, even tho I sucked at strategy games pretty hard I still have homam4 in a box-cd at home, quite cool one too tbh, even tho I hate some town music there... 😄 I might get Olden Era at some point too to give it a try, it looks pretty good from what Ive seen so far

[kind adder]

I've been running lightning shuri all season and running 700 corr pretty comfortably right now, with mostly just 1LP stuff

Could def go higher if I bothered to farm better gear

[serene crane]

Some kind of Sync Strike Chakram version?

[kind adder]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owL8RNm7

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (60) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (4)

General:

▸ Health: 2,080, Regen: 21.45/s
▸ Mana: 181, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 82%, Regen: 10/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 39 Dex / 9 Int / 11 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 77% / 79% / 87% / 82% / 78% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 416
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (526)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,121)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Shurikens / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shift

[kind adder]

Basically just took phys bladestorm and made it lightning

Ignore the umbral blades spec, I was testing something lol

That should be sync strike

[wary cedar]

i still wonder how fast you can make bladestorm with this

and if that would be worth

[serene crane]

Yea quite popular build I'd say 😄

[kind adder]

Would be pretty funny to see it basically just ricocheting around at the speed of a Chakram

[kind adder]

Yeah, it's not an original idea by any means, just put my own twist on it with fulgurite for more flat lightning and changing skill tree a bit

[serene crane]

I think Sp3tan had one build with like 195dex or so? 😄 pretty fast, just zooming around

[wary cedar]

nah, this man probably didnt corrupted it, i aint believing in fools

[serene crane]

Since Im already bored af of this patch, Im just gonna try Bo's Anarchy Falconer instead 😄

[wary cedar]

i'm playing more lastepochtools than LE itself

[kind adder]

Bro same lmao

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVa7aD6X

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (33) / Marksman (80)

General:

▸ Health: 2,056, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 452.98, Regen: 12.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 54 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 48% / 48% / 48% / 59% / 59% / 43% / 48%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 479
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (585)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,762)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Detonating Arrow / Shift / Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver

[kind adder]

This is my DA planner rn

[serene crane]

big stick gaming

[kind adder]

Think that cinder strike idea is probably better than puncture

[wary cedar]

apes together strong

[wary cedar]

i already hate it when i see this

[serene crane]

Nothing that can go wrong

[wary cedar]

can't be real that the best way to sustain mana on fking rogue is to stand still

absolute cinema

[serene crane]

If a STAFF meant for rogue's throwing attack has melee attack speed, then I dont see anything wrong with standing still

[wary cedar]

dont you know the Melee/Spell Dmg Block Shuriken Build?

[serene crane]

Yea I wonder what I can even boost with that spell damage

[wary cedar]

maybe since we re rogues we should be able to steal one skill from other classes

then it would all make sense

[serene crane]

I'd steal Swarmblade

but maybe thats gonna be the new class from expansion... something similar to Scion from PoE where she can pick stuff from other class's ascendancies

[wary cedar]

i ll def check if i can make health regen build next season

[serene crane]

Well you already can its just... a little bit limited

[wary cedar]

next season will give me the motivation to do the grind

if it sucks it sucks

[serene crane]

I dont feel so good Mr. Stark...

[wary cedar]

i think this birb is so ugly

so i ll never play that class

[serene crane]

I can throw money at the game and buy a toucan

[wary cedar]

give me an anime style pidgeon

and you might find me playing falconer

[flint turret]

i think falconer needs a cock

[kind adder]

i genuinely dont know what else to put 😢

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOwMP11m follow this build, thank me later

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (40) / Bladedancer (32) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (16)

General:

▸ Health: 2,908, Regen: 3,063.64/s
▸ Mana: 387.51, Regen: 14.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 115%, Regen: 1138/s
▸ Attributes: 155 Str / 52 Dex / 31 Int / 31 Att / 75 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 68% / 68% / 67% / 90% / 107% / 112%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,414
▸ Dodge Chance: 27% (913)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (513)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Detonating Arrow / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Cinder Strike / Shadow Cascade

[kind adder]

[wary cedar]

it really is good

[serene crane]

Can confirm, Ive played it, it even kills Uber... by old age ailment

[kind adder]

how much ward is that if you just sit there for a while?

gotta be insane

[wary cedar]

its in the build

under conditions

you can also just check the defense page and see the ehp

[kind adder]

holy

thats fun

okay now i actually wanna try it

[wary cedar]

we can do it togetha

if we both try for it it would boost motivation xd

[kind adder]

aight im logging in and locking in

[wary cedar]

tell me if you see any improvemnts for the build

[serene crane]

Uberroth seeing two guys running at him with melee cold DA and he'll get a stroke

[kind adder]

i'd kinda like to try cooldown node with charges

take away the 20% more with the arm time

[wary cedar]

ya i did the heavy mana consume nodes jsut recently, cooldown nodes wouldnt be bad

[kind adder]

since we're chunking mana anyway, not like we can spam

[wary cedar]

also idk about shadow cascade in the build, its just placeholder because it's automatic

[kind adder]

i have always wanted jelkhors to be good

maybe this is how

[wary cedar]

the beliefers are gathering

[serene crane]

Well it was good already... 😄

[kind adder]

okay but why the fire nodes in cinder strike?

cause without ele arrows, its purely cold damage

so fire pen doesnt help does it?

[wary cedar]

i dont think there are any other nodes that will help out

get the attack speed one

and mana sutain

thats all we need here

[kind adder]

Okay yeah just making sure I wasn't missing something

[charred pagoda]

ooo a tanky melee rogue build, i want to try this in hc

[wary cedar]

if you re refereing to the build i posted it's not level friendly

not at all

[kind adder]

I just remembered I turtled all my jelkhors for fun lmao

Conquered tower here I come

[charred pagoda]

ooo good point, i might have some spare aberroth gear to build this from my other hc char though

[kind adder]

I've also always wanted to do shattered lance build so this is my dream jelkhors and shattered lance lol

[wary cedar]

well you need to be lv 86 to even get ward gen

[serene crane]

Getting all the life regen idols and slams will probably be worse than getting to lv86 😄

[wary cedar]

idk how good merchant guild is for thing s like this, never played this

[serene crane]

that relic with str=>regen corruption will be super grindy too

[serene crane]

Maybe easier 🤔 I remember that relic used to be good for some primalist build, but I think it got kinda nerfed

[wary cedar]

@kind adder how's it going?

[kind adder]

Barely gotten started but not terrible, I have a bunch of the gear already, just need to get an Exulis and make the set pieces

2lp jelkhor from my first Nem lmao

Also already had a 1LP wall so that's taken care of

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ohthemisery/character/Taube

i feel like the cooldown node is to long

5sec

[kind adder]

Yeah without CDR it's gonna be really jank

Could get a 2lp army of skin and get cdr on that... maybe sacrifice the ele res on your belt and get cdr on that too... would have to make some sacrifices, but without the CDR node you're missing 50% more damage

Pros and cons

[serene crane]

Eh, Im not even sure If cdr works on that or not

Why do Falconer skills feel like so ass

[kind adder]

It does, or at least it used to

Trikster has a video from S2 where he got the cooldown to just over 3 seconds

[serene crane]

Then its not so bad I guess since you gotta spam CS anyway to refresh Oil Coating and get mana back 😄

[kind adder]

Yup, that was my original idea with the bow version

[fossil tartan]

Hey all! This is my current bee build, including showing the skill with attribute scaling. Any recommendations for after I get a Legends Entwined with 1LP?

[kind adder]

@wary cedar

we're pogging

[wary cedar]

1lp is guranteed at least

[kind adder]

Pogging because that's my first drop lol, I wasn't even tryna farm it yet

[wary cedar]

i also got it first try after i was wanting it for my build

[serene crane]

health regen check

[wary cedar]

but i feel like dmg just sucks

and i m not sure if 2500 more health regen would fix that

[serene crane]

You could maybe boost that with Mourningfrost and Omnis to fix resists a bit?

[wary cedar]

i might just figure out how i 'cheat' items in offline mode and test the final build if it is worth it

[kind adder]

lmk if you do cause this is a grind lol

[kind adder]

I'm gearing it like shadow rend personally, in that I'm not gonna swap to it until I have some above average gear

[wary cedar]

i m busy making my steam profil pretty rn x)

[wary cedar]

at the end, the regen build is pretty universal, you can use the same loadout for completely different classes, you just need a melee cold attack, in best case one that scales with strength or intelligence, just swap out the blast dagger, every other part can stay like that

[kind adder]

Yeah that's pretty nice, wonder how a shatter strike build does with it

[tender trench]

Broooo I tried to do this for so long in the game could never get the idols so k gave up had like 60 bees at one point it was nuts

But I could never get the idols I wish you the best I wanna see the build for sure @fossil tartan

[desert bridge]

If you convert to fire, you can use Ash Wake to give your bees another 90% ignite chance

[wary cedar]

should be better since it is the better skill xd

[serene crane]

It would be much less sh!t If it wasnt locked to melee skills... could do cold acid flask, cold bladestorm, cold umbral blades...

so many things being this limited is lowkey dumb

[wary cedar]

yap, some classes dont even got melee cold skills

[serene crane]

Meanwhile Grim Dawn has conversions like nearly everywhere hopefully expansion soon this year before I grow senile

[wary cedar]

i recently added that game to my WL

[serene crane]

100% worth it, just the engine is a bit older so its not all that fancy

[wary cedar]

might have to look on some gameplay, can you give me some vids of the most fanciest builds of the game perhaps?

[potent rune]

The dlc should help the engine ,grimdawn is quite good can do anything really

[wary cedar]

are there skins or can i make my character look cool, or like a femboy or whatever?

[potent rune]

Your character will look 1000% better than in this game

F cool for sure

[wary cedar]

i mean LE is the only ARPG is play, i tried Diablo and PoE, wasnt something for me

[potent rune]

Because you actually have multiple lets says class masteries you can make like idk what feels infinite combinations

[serene crane]

Protoss has usually some good videos for builds, I always cook some random stuff and it just works for the endgame since there is tons of items 😄 just the uber bosses are more tricky I'd say... there you pick one class and shortly enough you can add a second class, so you mix them up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX103fuUgWA

[potent rune]

Lets say you can combine a void knight with a marksman for example

[potent rune]

My first build was a homemade bleed build not op but was working well enough

[serene crane]

I usually end up with Nightblade and Occultist 😄 but Shieldbreaker is also fun, thats kinda like Sentinel here

[potent rune]

Farming monsters for their specific infrequent items is so fun

I wanna do like inquisitor plus a flame guy

Oh and merchant are actually useful and quite good in grim dawn unlike here

[serene crane]

My first build was lightning Warder... was super fun 😄 but last year I cooked some Deceiver that was mostly auto attacks with dual pistols and proccing X skills... I dont think I ever played a build that wasnt fun

[potent rune]

Dual pistols is so cool

[serene crane]

Sadly no bows in the game, but there are crossbows and rifles; pistols for 1h

[wary cedar]

will there be a new season or something there soon?

[serene crane]

New huge expansion with new class, like Druid that can change into some werewolf/crow/something... ofc maps, dungeons, items, idk what all else 😄

core game itself is already quite big, but expansions are peak

[potent rune]

Al expansion in grim dawn are amazing,they make the game even more amazing and new expansion is huge

[serene crane]

And all the secret locations literally everywhere... smh Im gonna reinstall it today

[wary cedar]

and

when?

wanted to know if i should wait

[serene crane]

"soon" but tbh you can freely start a playthrough and 99% during the next one you'll find things and areas you havent seen before

[thin quartz]

why is the LET website showing different numbers on the same affix.. am i missing something

[cobalt mantle]

You are looking at the unscaled affix, bows have a higher multiplier than quivers so you need to look at the bow scaling (shows scaled values lower down on the affix page)

[thin quartz]

oh yeah, someone told me already. i forgot to remove my question here. i totally didnt think about clicking within the affix on the website

[mossy nexus]

Anyone tried blast rain with the shuriken corrupted affix? thinking it could be decent

[wary cedar]

wont be better than multishot

[marble zealot]

https://streamable.com/t44ehw

it's decent damage but cba solve mana

and yeah its just worse in every way than multishot

[mossy nexus]

Loved blast rain back in the day, might give it a shot again

For mana i was gonna go t7 exp belt affix, but prob not enough

[serene crane]

Have you perhaps tried how it works with Flurry? 😄

[marble zealot]

ye i tried flurry / auto-proc MS, it's just not enough hits compared to other options unfort

[serene crane]

big sadge

[kind adder]

GD is such a good game. Probably top 3 ARPG for me, maybe top 2

[desert bridge]

I just want a GD2, the art and gameplay are really showing their age these days

[wary cedar]

we re still talking about Geometry Dash tho?

[serene crane]

It might even be real If the development didnt take two lifetimes for one expansion and like 7th announcement of "aight, here is the last patch, we're done with Grim Dawn" 😄

[lucid trail]

so ive been using the maxroll rogue levelling guide and now im level 73 i figure its time to start looking at endgame builds - what does everyone recommend? im enjoying the smokebomb/bladestorm stuff but more than happy to use anything melee at this point 🙂

[kind adder]

Tbf, they weren't gonna do another xpac and then everyone flooded the game and they were like well damn, guess we'll keep making content

[kind adder]

If you're looking for ez gearing, shuriken bladestorm is powerful and easy to gear

I would encourage you to do your own research on your build though, helps you understand the game better, and also Maxroll builds can be a bit half baked in some areas

Not that the writers don't know what they're talking about, but I do feel like in some builds, they find something that works, and that's the only version they work on/post, when in reality there's 2-3 different ways to play some builds

[lucid trail]

yeah im pretty new to last epoch and have mucked around with some self builds but they all feel a bit... lacking

this is the first time ive followed a levelling build and its been pretty smooth and powerful

[lucid trail]

do you have any recommended creators for this build? or just anyone should be fine?

[kind adder]

Yeah their leveling builds are pretty great. Although you almost can't go wrong with any leveling builds. As long as it's not cinder strike lmao. Or detonating arrow.

[lucid trail]

i havent seen those but... yeah i'll rememeber that lol

[kind adder]

Trikster has a fun version if you like Dancing Strikes gameplay, and I think either Bina or Lizard made the Maxroll guide for shurikens which is also strong

[lucid trail]

cheers i'll check them out - ty ❤️

[kind adder]

No problem

If you want blue shurikens instead of red, I'm playing lightning shurikens right now, which is basically the Maxroll guide but tweaked for lightning damage

@lucid trail

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oP6w9rKv

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (60) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (4)

General:

▸ Health: 2,662, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 195, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 86%, Regen: 10/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 43 Dex / 11 Int / 13 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 101% / 93% / 78% / 111% / 83% / 85% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 532
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (549)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,169)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Shurikens / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shift

[kind adder]

You can ignore the umbral blades spec, I was testing something and I'm too lazy to swap it back lol. That should be sync strike, or if you don't like that, can do decoy or something

[lucid trail]

awesome ty! 😁

[serene crane]

You can also get the shop skin for.... yellow shurikens... aaaand... yellow bladestorm that throw... you guessed it... yellow shurikens! 😄

[naive saddle]

Yuck

[cosmic charm]

How to craft a Godly helmet for Shadow Rend Cascade Umbral recall build.
https://youtu.be/U5A6cHVVwQ0

[trim zodiac]

i want more move speed how do i get

[cosmic charm]

@trim zodiacT7 move speed slam on boots :/

[trim zodiac]

have that

im at 97

[cosmic charm]

you good then

you can replace rings with silver rings but that is a very bad idea

[serene crane]

Swiftness, Haste, increased effect of Haste

[cosmic charm]

how much you have total?

@trim zodiacmore than enough, rogues use smoke bomb/Shift + evade to more around in echoes

[trim zodiac]

97 on low life boots

still have to slam them

and ive been using silver rings

till recent i need new ones

i briked my swift gloves

so crab

till i can replace

[cosmic charm]

never corrupt if you don't have a backup, thats rule no1

and 97 is already super high.

[trim zodiac]

i had 130

but bricked that

i cant go back

[cosmic charm]

why you keep corrupting if you don't have a back up?

that is just wrong.

what level are you? COF or MG?

[trim zodiac]

solo account found

[cosmic charm]

so COF?

[wary cedar]

that's not true

if the corruptions bricks your item you just dont have the upgrade yet and need to continue to farm

[cosmic charm]

@wary cedarThe corruption might break a key item from your build, e.g Legends Entwined ring for the Shadow cascade build or one of reforged items.
So yea, it's true.

always have a back up

[wary cedar]

if we re talking raw uniques, okay yeah

but at a certain point you have enough of them

so for example - first 1lp legends? insta corrupt

no excuses

[cosmic charm]

If you don;t have a backup your build wont work.

[wary cedar]

your backup is the 0lp

[cosmic charm]

@wary cedarno its not, you need the -5 mana cost on ring slam

[wary cedar]

corrupt it

it's the best way

[cosmic charm]

not if you don't have a back up, feel free to corrupt all but don't complain you broke your build.

[wary cedar]

corrupting is 75% positive outcome
would be just not optimal to not take that "risk"

[cosmic charm]

Clearly you are a savant, you are right.

[pure hound]

I need urgent help yall for shadow cascade, how do I craft/farm for this? seems insane
feels like ive been stuck with the doppelgangers mimicry forever, how did he even get the t8 sealed set bonus

[cosmic charm]

look at my videos

go to #🎥┃video-shoutout

[serene crane]

Evolution rune that turns it into Primordial item

[cosmic charm]

f@pure houndfor T8 you need rune of evolution

but that is for a different build and not the shadow rend + shadow cascade

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message I wrote stuff here for the crafting aswell

[pure hound]

I mean like i dont even know where i should start should i like put coin relics in the imprints and just spam exalted relics? and then hope 1 drops missing a slot so i can put a set shard on?

[cosmic charm]

no

[pure hound]

and then i have to havoc a t7 onto the set bonus?

[cosmic charm]

COF run prophecies, MG just buy the base

first of all what guide are you looking at? why would you want to primordial that affix?

make no sense tbh

[pure hound]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-cascade-bladedancer-guide#gear,-idols-blessings-header

its the maxroll cascade one

[cosmic charm]

that is dancing cascade

[pure hound]

maybe I should seal a different affix? idk why he has his sealed as the set bonus which is already hard to get

[cosmic charm]

and its a weak build

[serene crane]

ngl that build and plenty of other maxroll guides feels like a plague...

[pure hound]

oh is there a better site

[cosmic charm]

@pure houndcheck your msgs

decent? 🙂

[pure hound]

what build is considered strong this season, im assuming rend but the maxroll one is wierd its using kuzons gaze which is different than like every rend build ive seen showcased

[cosmic charm]

Shadow rend + shadow cascade + umbral recall

@pure houndhttps://www.lastepochtools.com/ladders/

[pure hound]

o ty, maybe i should pivot to that, i was trying out the dancing cascade and the kuzons gaze rend but im pretty much stuck on trying to craft the right set items like the helmet with t7 ward on shadow and those dice

[cosmic charm]

you should check my crafting video guides for that build.

[pure hound]

yea ill check em out thanks for the help guys

[serene crane]

Not sure If I missed anything else for movement speed 🤔 overjuiced af gear with corruptions, but 343% max rolled movement speed could look funny
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrXZ0Dj6

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (29) / Bladedancer (58) / Marksman (26)

General:

▸ Health: 1,388, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 214.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 68%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 34 Str / 216 Dex / 34 Int / 34 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 69% / 69% / 69% / 66% / 61% / 79% / 84%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 278
▸ Dodge Chance: 23% (789)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 12% (316)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 25%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Used skills:

Shift / Bladestorm / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Decoy

[cosmic charm]

oh, its a meme build, I get it

[serene crane]

Yea I was wondering how much MS it would be possible to get... could maybe roll with Falconer for 20% haste effect and some throw nodes... Bladestorm/Shuriken damage alone should carry easily for some lower corruptions, but with all this nearly unreal slams and corruptions thats far from worth 😄

But the Dex stacking is pretty much just for Velocyn, so that one is whatever

[wraith surge]

yo, is uber viable on heartseeker? no shuriken variant

[serene crane]

Yeah, cold one for sure

[wraith surge]

cool, il try it then

[wary cedar]

i m shocked

@serene crane you need to free me out of my misery

[serene crane]

Id just say even 1LP budget shuriken with 0LP corruption is better for dps tho, compared to like 2-3LP Hs

[serene crane]

Whatsup

[wary cedar]

i have no motivation for any game 😔

[serene crane]

Well... time for LE kinda died out by now... going into GD sounds good tho, at around lv50 you start dropping legendary items so there it kinda kicks in

[wary cedar]

ya but i also lack motivation getting into a new game

😭

[serene crane]

Im not sure if there is a cure for that

[wary cedar]

try your best 😔

[serene crane]

I'll do what Im best at... giving up

[trim zodiac]

Best sources for increased effect of haste?

[naive saddle]

Boots

[trim zodiac]

I was getting it from the lvl like 5 dodge armor but I swapped it out for reasons

Like can I find it on a ring?

[serene crane]

Nope

Just check the items if you want movement speed, this is about as much as you can possibly get, maybe theres some few other items but most likely not... experimental haste on boots, you can get it as a corruption if you get lucky
#🔪┃rogue message

[trim zodiac]

I saw that but if u run those boots u run ice helm can’t run ice helm cause need 140 crit

So need crit implicit on prism helm or I have to sack like 300% crit mult

[potent rune]

Boots ,idol corruption

[serene crane]

Those boots kinda dont matter, its there just because they got the highest movement speed and they just work for lowlife since there is Exsan body armor; its the slammed affix and corruption which you can get on whatever boots you want

[marble zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BM6J8yX5

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (53)

General:

▸ Health: 1,255, Regen: 41/s
▸ Mana: 170.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 90%, Regen: 17/s
▸ Attributes: 35 Str / 251 Dex / 45 Int / 35 Att / 77 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 15% / 0% / 50% / 5%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 251
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (552)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 5% (108)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%

Used skills:

Shift / Dive Bomb / Falconry

[marble zealot]

noobzors planner

its like 550% ms with deicide

[mossy nexus]

Does anyone know if dragonfire inherit the multipliers from the skill that applies it?

[serene crane]

I was close enough I see 451% even with points in Expediency in Falconer for another 20% Haste effect; 15% from Falconery and 50% from Shift, I guess Im missing something else too... not like it matters much at this point

[marble zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A21qbl7l

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (26) / Falconer (54)

General:

▸ Health: 1,163, Regen: 38.08/s
▸ Mana: 170.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 70%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 35 Str / 182 Dex / 35 Int / 35 Att / 42 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 52% / 52% / 67% / 52% / 52% / 57%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 233
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (114)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (527)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%

Used skills:

Shift / Shurikens / Bladestorm / Falconry

[marble zealot]

what i tested for an actual speedy build

but guile on rogue without dusk shroud gen is just horrible

my zhp marksman is tankier with 1k hp than this with 10k ward and guile

[spare granite]

are there any good Falcon builds?

@marble zealot a shuriken build ??? Really ?🥳

how far did you push with it ?

[marble zealot]

i paid like 30mil for the gear, played 2 echoes and died 5 times

then deleted

[spare granite]

damit

i was hoping for something unique or cool on falconeer or bladedancer

[serene crane]

I guess If you want Shurikens on Bladedancer, you either go with Dancing Strikes and Bladestorm; or Bo's staff and selfcast them + Bladestorm... Shuriken corruption on Marksman just works with whatever skill you like, Multishot/Heartseeker is easy enough to do, you just need bow/quiver with the corruption and good crit, which shouldnt be that hard

[spare granite]

@kind adder is it good dps wise?

you have a guide to anything ? @serene crane

[kind adder]

How good is what?

[spare granite]

the shuriken build from you?

[kind adder]

Oh

[spare granite]

its yours right?

[kind adder]

I mean it pumps pretty hard

The lightning shuriken build yeah

[spare granite]

im looking for something fast for clearing im at 900 corrup

[trim zodiac]

I get 75k crit with surikens

[spare granite]

and i was targeting to like 1200-1300 k

[serene crane]

Jesse has plenty of videso with planners for juiced bow shurikens with Multishot, pretty much zhp
Ragu has few links and videos here with 0-1LP budget versions that is fine enough to get to 1k and kill Uber #🔪┃rogue message

[kind adder]

I'm cruising through 720 rn, so probably could easily get to 900. I have pretty shite jewelry all around still. Definitely upgradable. You're still gonna have issues with like shades and stuff but it's not that bad, mostly just cause I'm squishy. The DPS is fine tho. I just need more ward

Farming an Omnis rn so I can drop my heirloom ring for something better

Probably Oceareon or something

[spare granite]

i have a god roll omnis with T7 Crit Multi

@serene crane jessierocks?

[kind adder]

Ideally you'd have flat throwing damage on it, but crit multi is good too

[serene crane]

Jessrabbert here

[spare granite]

Jessrabert

cool

@kind adder yeah sounds good imma try it but first farm some Temporal Sanctum keys ^^

[kind adder]

Lmk if you have any questions. I can't really take full credit for the build, it's basically just the Maxroll build but I swapped to lightning affixes everywhere I could

[serene crane]

I made a bit tankier 2H Bladedancer with Clotho's Needle with physical Bladestorm Detonate, damage is okay but nothing really amazing, just to chill at like 500corr, kill Aberroth and call it a day, quite unique off-meta build You can also check Max Pita's on youtube that made a cold Bladestorm Detonate with 2h Orb Weaver sword that has enough damage for 1k and some a bit slower Uber most likely aswell... Max usually has some nice off-meta builds here and there, including one channeled Shadow Cascade build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtfA_sqkPDk
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjqxLNKP

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (69) / Falconer (22)

General:

▸ Health: 2,309, Regen: 203/s
▸ Mana: 195.5, Regen: 13.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 5/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 58 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 66 Vit
▸ Resistances: 144% / 101% / 152% / 109% / 126% / 118% / 174%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 808
▸ Dodge Chance: 36% (1261)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,078)
▸ Block Chance: 40%, Mitigation: 0% (0)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 46%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Net / Bladestorm / Smoke Bomb / Explosive Trap / Decoy

[spare granite]

TY Guys youre really Helpfull im not used to that ^^ 😉

[serene crane]

Jess just have a bit better gear already with MG, but to get the build rolling, bow/quiver with the corruption and crit chance is already a good start... later on If you want to get the corruption on some good legendary bow/quiver, that might need a lot of luck since its just pure RNG that also takes effort of getting exalted bows/uniques for slams
#🔪┃rogue message

I personally enjoyed Heartseeker with the corruption, every crit of the recurve can proc the shuriken corruption 😄 Multishot looks stronger, I just dont like that skill 😄

[spare granite]

whats the guys name on yt?

[serene crane]

This is Jess: https://www.youtube.com/@spectatorie12/videos
just some videos are unlisted, so you'd have to search in this channel for links from Jess 😄

If you decide to go fire Heartseeker, theres the option to use Ember primordial amulet that has a chance to copy your used fire skill... so more Heartseekers, more Shurikens 😄 its not some crazy build, but it works

[spare granite]

they look fun