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i mean more like it looks like an updated build from previous seasons
i guess its my bad for assuming you are playing rend already since i didnt see the guide first
as it should. both cascade and dancing were buffed this season
i might change my build then
but rend feels better anyway, at least for me
do u have build for it?
i experimented a lot with it on budget gear so i can find a few variants
this is the latest https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Av9dWrPR
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Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5
Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (74) / Falconer (14)
โธ Health: 2,199, Regen: 0/s
โธ Mana: 202.51, Regen: 8.96/s
โธ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 7 Str / 18 Dex / 7 Int / 7 Att / 22 Vit
โธ Resistances: 103% / 95% / 77% / 76% / 84% / 73% / 77%
โธ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 891
โธ Dodge Chance: 31% (1077)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 22% (907)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 26%
โธ Crit Avoidance: 35%
ill check wait
aightt wait
mono running version is a bit different with shift and umbral recall for mana and without tabi
it doesnt seem to load on me
which one?
mhmm i gues its my browser the issue
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Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (77) / Falconer (14)
โธ Health: 2,537, Regen: 19.72/s
โธ Mana: 226.5, Regen: 9.52/s
โธ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 2 Str / 6 Dex / 2 Int / 10 Att / 2 Vit
โธ Resistances: 80% / 73% / 74% / 131% / 28% / 30% / 70%
โธ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 961
โธ Dodge Chance: 12% (386)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,284)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
โธ Crit Avoidance: 5%
hm it opens for me alright
mhm idk whats the issue here
the point is that rend cascade works with everything, be it melee or throwing, fire or phys
you just go whatever you feel like with melee being easier to gear but throwing having better aoe
aight thank you
Regarding bladestorm - if you DON'T have allow animation, can the shurikens from shuriken storm & blade shield/deadly aim, from all 3 bladestorms hit the same target? So it's only the blades themselves that can't hit the same target?
Hmm. I was using a relic with the set reforged but probably not enough %
What one of those are the most hybrid like wonโt suffer too much on maps. Because I have all the items for those
I have a 2lp pair of claw gloves for my bladestorm build. Do I guarentee my t5 throwing dmg or t3 %ward experimental roll on the slam?
At build SD/casca throw, Liraka claw or glove +1 shadow - t7 melee speed is better ?
So I've spent more favor looking for Jungle Queen Belts than I did on Red Rings. That's neat.
At least once I get a few, getting lp on them looks to be easy
Dang. 4LP Firestarter's Torch...
What's some good techs to start getting more T7 + T7/T6 exalted items.
Clear faster, put on the blessing for more scepter drops, pray to RNGesus
Blessing is good idea
arent there weaver tree etc that i can min-max
and content target too: omens / rift beasts / champions / nemesis etc
Prioritise the %ward, but you want an exalt. T3 won't give much.. in that case the t5 throwing is probably better. I wouldn't be slamming 2LP li'raka's without exalt
I have checked my filters multiple time because I can't find an armor with ward on shadow creation and sometimes I am like I must have filtered it out because this is bananas
Yea it doesnt drop that often on its own... worst case you can look for any tier of it and t7 elsewhere and try to Havoc it to the ward, but thats kinda the annoying way - bad luck and it just eats your FP, Havocs, can get unlucky with 2nd prefix...
Nemesis is probably the best option... Omens drop them but 99% time its corrupted, so ๐ , there is Bloodline Glade that drops a pack of t8 champion items so maybe they could drop the scepter... but I'd say farming Nemesis is the best try, towers + spawns in echos with the node for them to drop weapons too
yeah I had two shards of it somehow, so threw it on a rando t7 but run out of havocs ๐คก
In loot filter I just make a rule to show and recolor t1+ of whatever affixes Im looking for so I can removal rune them, it slowly builds up ๐
Havocs are kinda brutal this reason, they enjoy being unlucky af
"oh I have one of those too" checks filter -> disabled well I am not doing myself any favors apparently
@serene crane do you know the answer to this?
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I honestly didnt test it, but I would guess it sounds about right ๐ค but If you put some ailment on hit nodes/gear on, go to a boss dummy with Alloy first, try it few times to see how many stacks you get on the dummy, then unspec Alloy and check again... my guess is the shurikens are its separate thing from Bladestorm
Ok thanks i'll test when i get home. Trying to optimise single target on uber. ATM i'm running alloy but it's the shurikens that do the damage so i'm thinking 3 bladestorms would be better
Well people mentioned this works for shurikens to all hit without Alloy, so just make sure you got the piercing from Shurikens and things should melt pretty easily ๐ I'll still try it out later
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Cool thanks! I'm using Ricochet though for uber as pierce isn't needed. I'm hoping as long as i can sustain the mana the shurikens will just keep firing from 3 blades.
Well thats 12 mana, I guess you have the -3mana node already, 2x -5mana on rings; so Shurikens should be 0 mana and you can take Sapping Strikes to keep mana up If you self cast shurikens
Yeah Ricochet isn't an issue, it's shuriken storm that costs 4 mana even if shurikens is 0. So with 3 blades it will consume even more mana. But yeah i'm gonna try sapping strikes as well. I'm slowly going more to the maxroll version, but using dancing strikes/cascade instead of shift/sync
DS+Cascade sounds a lot better ๐ค at the start of the season I was playing bleed Bladestorm with shuriken shield and to keep the mana up I was just using Net and Sapping Strikes, had 0 issues with mana
just with DS+Cascade it might take a bit more effort to keep the mana up with Bladestorms going too ๐
What is the magic mana regen number/ percentge to use dark allies? I cannot seem... Or well, my mana cannot seem to keep up
yeah nice, gotta solve that mana or big damage loss from no shuriken storm. DS Cascade is awesome if you can manage the mana. Big damage from DS buffs and I spec into porcupines wrath in cascade
Do you play with Umbral Blades too?
Yeah, I play the maxroll shadow cascade build
But I don't manually cast umbral blades
have u got the idols with sync strike mana efficiency?
I got 1 with 8, 1 with 10 and 1 with 16. The 8 and the 10 also has additional normal mana regen
and an Altar which increases their effect? I played that build and mana was fine once i had the Altar and good idols
Hmm 15% increased effect of Weaver enchantment affixes. I don't think that is it, what should I be looking for, to increase their effect?
You should be getting enough mana back from Shift and with the Shift-recall node in Umbrals; you could also get sync strike mana efficiency on body instead of the ward
Increase effect of prefixes, the one in the guide
I can do about 5 rotations and then I will be oom. But I do want to say, I am still "leveling" so I haven't reached empowered yet, and I am only about to clear the 3rd to last mono.
So I think maybe I don't have access to the full item list just yet.
Keep killing those Omen enemies and it'll eventually drop
Thank you for being so awesome and helpfull all ๐๐ฝ
I really appreciate it. This is what makes LE community the greatest
Yeah just take off dark allies until u have the altar. It will be fine for leveling
I can tell u right now I still use x3 mana efficency x2 16 and x1 14 and im sitting around 200 mana, so now i rarely go OOM, losing dmg cuz no shadows dmg or cascade but id rather be able to go zoom no OOM than go OOM after 4 seconds
also one more thing to keep in mind besides mana efficency is your cool down, cuz faster shift means more recalling umbral blades = more mana return
In your lootfilter, you can also make a new rule to (what I did 99.9% of time) is to hide everything as usual, then for altars do Show => item type: altars => affix: %inc effect of prefixes / suffixes /prefi+suffi hybrid / weaver; you can also add increased effect of Omen idols for the altar... so your stash wont get bloated with all the crappy altars... you can also set a minimum tier to show up, like t3+ for starters, then t5+; copy the rule and make it in big letters and set this one to like t7 so you'll know when the best tier dropped
I used the maxroll loot filter for the build (Start Mono) and it's even hiding uniques, I rarely see loot. And when I see loot, it's like high rolls, or specifically only to the build.
So I believe the filter has this (There's like 5 stages, I am only at stage 2 right now, I just started Monos like 2 days ago)
I think thats horrible loot filter tbh, for new players it hides most of the stuff which makes zero sense nowdays and anyone with more experience with the game and lootfilters wouldnt even touch that ๐
I think it hides set items, which you want now since like 1.2 when they introtuced set crafting and now corrupting set items aswell; hiding 0LP uniques makes sense for only some, but even good uniques are accessable on low lvl and you may want to pick up 0LP uniques to feed them to Nemesis egg (mostly in Empow. monos - its a slot in the Nemesis where you put 0LP unique and it has a chance to either get 1+ LP or random affix => which then you can corrupt to possibly get 2nd random affix which turns it into X-LP fuel to reroll other same uniques with the same LP)
Simply written, I play with this and only change the affixes based on what build/class I play... for sure its not perfect, but it'll show you things for your build, for other builds you might want to play, idols/altars for your build... all you need to do is select the correct item type in the rules, then look for affixes you want to show
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I'm too new to understand fully all the details from setting up the loot filter just yet. But in case you have a simple copy pasta I'm open for it ๐ฎ
I dont have any copy paste one, never really exported one from game either
but check the message link above, try making few simple rules (at the bottom: hide - item type: all - rarity - white/blue/yellow/exalted; and then rule above it to :show - item type: what you looking for, like 1H swords/daggers/armor - affix: look for what you want, like ward on shadow creation, damage of cascade per shadow, cooldown reduction... etc)
Use Raxxโs lootfilter
Itโs very easy to tinker with and he explains it all in his video
@dapper depot try this... All you need to do is to just check what weapons and affixes you want to see in the rules, I think with the texts in every rule is more or less clear; what items/affixes you want to see for some other builds you might play (lets say you play Cascade stuff, so in the top rules you put affixes like "cascade damage per shadow" and "ward on shadow creation" and "attack speed" etc while selecting 1h daggers/swords/armour)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/DQ9J08PB
Thank Olvrin!
Filter from Raxx is cool, but even with the explanation, seeing nearly 160 rows of rules (even tho the blue ones are instructions) almost feels like when new player opens a passive tree in PoE
You can always add some rules to hide 0LP uniques later on, its something I wouldnt bother at all... you can add it just when you take a lot of prophecies so your screen gets spammed by loot during a boss=>harbringer fight and disable it once the boss is dead
how's cold heartseeker this season?
A bit stronger than before I'd say? boosted by altars and corruptions... some guy has a video of 1k corruption and Uber with the icicle corruption on bow+quiver in like 3-4mins... the shuriken one is great and fast too, boosted by Mourningforst aswell... just getting the corruption on a good slammed bow is the hard part
Yea either as a secondary damage to bow Hs or just full send it with throw build where Heartseeker is more like a shuriken enabler, since every Recurve that crits has a chance to trigger shurikens ๐
Jess posted a lot of it, also Multishot shurikens... Ragu here has a planner with more budget build and not a zhp; can pretty much play whatever... cold Hs, Dragonsong, ignite Hs with Ember amu, lightning scrit shurikens, possibly bleed with carrion of creation / poison with armor shred stacking... phys seems to be the strongest by far ๐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fke-ocE7DG8
you can likely do that hs+shurikens with bleed and 1 snap puncture
popping 5k bleeds must feel good
Cold Hs on its own is fine I guess, probably one of the more balanced builds in this patch
tbh i think i can get uber to less than 1 min this weekend after farming more gear
my 1lp sword corrution luck and in general has been so bad
i think 2h have like 3 very good corruptions and i have missed every time
Yea its worth trying out I guess ๐ค just no idea what would end up with more damage, if Carrion with some big bleed chance or Salt and going for crit multi bleed pen
but i dread having to recraft chest every time even in MG it is a pain in the asss
no idea tbh going salt and bleed+poison seems strong but would take forever to kill things
i wonder if they will make a bleed set that works with bows
or i guess you can use the ruby ones or something
Ruby is axe+shield tho
rip then
can we just have a decent set bow pls
and a quiver
i woldnt mind it having shuri on bow crit as a set bonus or shard affix tbh
it would brick multishot shuri tho because no drelk but still
Its already half-bricked by the fact you have to gamble with questionable amount of bows/quivers for corruption...
yeah thats the point basically
i got addicted to phys throw rend cascade so i havent even transitioned into bow shuri yet smh, im just using the gear i prepared for it with cascade kekw
its soo good in omen veils
almost nothing even comes close to me at 1k corr
Why not making a second rogue for the shuri build and keep Rend to farm Omens?
at least I dont mind making another character in LE ๐
i thought about it but im spending too little time playing so
throwing rend cascade is really sick, omnidirectional screenwide aoe does its job perfectly in veils
Yea it feels really nice... I just got a bit bored after trying like 3 Rend builds that are so similar in the playstyle
I mean I know it's overturned and it probably shouldn't stay in the game as is, but I always wanted another way of generating shadows outside of sync that won't feel as bad, and I pretty much got exactly that.
Probably they need to remove CD from sync too like they did with dancing tbh
Yeah that could be nice... also new BD skill better be great and not like Rend
Not very tanky I guess, but it should stack bleed stacks from Shuri shield like crazy.. and this on 1LP seems quite alright, with 0LP bow+quiver with just t5 shuri corruption... just the idols are a bit more cooked ๐ but 4x1 could do bleed on hit/+crit chance and same enchant... but 1x4 looks a lot better
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oN2zd0PX
Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2
Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (28) / Marksman (51) / Falconer (13)
โธ Health: 1,647, Regen: 20/s
โธ Mana: 168.82, Regen: 8.16/s
โธ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 12 Str / 20 Dex / 12 Int / 6 Att / 6 Vit
โธ Resistances: 120% / 111% / 84% / 87% / 99% / 78% / 83%
โธ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 329
โธ Dodge Chance: 16% (538)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,057)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
Heartseeker / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Puncture / Bladestorm
i still cant believe i was almost 15 corruptions in and still no decent one
hope this weekend i have more luck
best corruption i got was the bleed + more dmg to bleed one
Yea and then the amount of luck of getting the corruption on 3LP bows is crazy gear maxxing ๐
i was still corrupting 1 lp items
not even trying for more LUL
i siphoned the whole bbc market
of decent rolled ones
i still have a ton of temporal keystones to spam and try and get more
I hope EHG makes more corruptions like this at least... like 1h dagger/axe/sword that has a chance to trigger Shadow Cascade on direct melee hit; some more stuff like this
Just tested bladestorm without alloy.. used shuriken blade shield and sapping strikes and it wayyyy better for uber. Much faster kill. So basically the maxroll setup for shurikens/bladestorm, but i still used dancing strikes and throwing shadow cascade - https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6PVnX6D
Good to hear ๐ DS just gives you great amount of global damage, so its kinda free for the shurikens that are already there for X seconds
Yeah exactly. Casts shurikens and SC for u as well! Most fun build i've played so far
Anyone doing bow shuriken not doing zhp and having success? I spent a day trying low life + ward, stacking HP, etc... but was still getting one tapped a lot on 500 corruption. Decided to go all offense and dying way, way less because the damage is just crazy.
Why not like rend? It's pretty good outside of being a direct damage skill
Exactly.. some direct damaging skill would be nice ๐
One of the solutions I can think of is getting ward. Wither from rend multishot with ward on shadow creations or from soulgambler amulet with hs or whatever
Ah, yeah, in this sense definitely
Going full damage is not as great having omen veils now imo
Siege Quiver from MM passives and Ashes of Mortality ring felt quite good on the ignite Heartseeker, buts thats pretty specific I guess ๐
Ty, I'll try giving those a shot. This is probably my favorite build gameplay wise this season, so would love to find a balance with dps + defense
I simultaneously adore and dislike omen veils tbh. Love how they punish zhp or offscreen builds but I hate that now having huge aoe and constant damage output is almost mandatory.
Even melee cascade which I loved and it's really a great build struggles there just because the aoe isn't that great, not to mention combo skills or skills with cd like LM or whatever
I'm struggling to find such balance as well. Every attempt at getting surv cuts damage greatly
Latest planner for semi-budget bow shuri that's not zhp
Items only, ignore skills and passives
It's for hs initially
For multi rend I'd go with ward on shadow creation body
Getting that 1x3 omen with 13% hp would have helped a lot too
And red rings ofc
I just feel like Omen's Veil is a bit too overtunned with spawns, effects everywhere to see whats properly going on without much solution than just going for some aoe builds nuking entire screens without care... and the fact that Observer echo drops only like this feels dumb
I stopped doing those on my rend cascade explosive trap build because the visual noise was too much...
I started having headaches after play sessions
Well you can do it on 100 corr so it's not that big of a deal tbh, but I agree in general
It's pretty much a new direction for a build planning now. We had mono running and bossing, now it's also omen veils
Or maybe not really new
Omen veils are kinda similar to pushing arena I guess
Which was super niche previously
True I forgot
it also feels kinda like PoE2, where GGG wanted to go with the idea of "calmer" system but then you opened a breach+abyss and got swarmed by literal horde of mobs with the speed of a crack demon
Whats the best Falconer build to go past 1000 Corruption easily rn?
Rend with multishot is interesting. Definitely helps defense is damage is still solid, but trying to figure out how to sustain mana without shadow cascade. It chews thru mana insanely quick.
so what work is the Siphon of Anguish is doing on this version?
Mountain boots+sapping strikes, or uzril body with light res overcap, or umbral blades recall with shift+mana Regen affixes
Or 0 manacost hs with sapping and mana on recurve
Trying to stick with multishot, enjoy it way more than hs
Ah k, i need to chart this out more in a planner. I need to make sure I don't lose too many skills points in shuriken
More damage
Interesitng. Had to look that one up
looks like it upgrades to that base but base wont matter for LP transfer purposes. Is it a "better" item (more T6++ affixes)?
I have 11 Bloodline Glade. Im HC are they rippy. I may try those.
And what makes Nemesis so good for getting exalted weapons for a 4LP Unique?
I know Nemesis have like 1-2 uniques and sometimes an Egg, which is great for uniques. But I've never really paid attention to the 1-2 rares/exalts they provide too (are they juiced AF)?
Could be a bit... Its fighting like 8 or something evolved rift beasts one by one
Well Nemesis also upgrades their rare/exalted items so they can roll into multiple exalted affixes
nemesis exalted are high fp and higher chance to be multi exalted so you can craft on them with much more success.
check your forgotten knights rank 4 and rank 6 perks
They are, yes. Some of beast abilities can pretty much instakill
You can consider those equivalent to harbingers
But with less hp pool
interesting. im kinda just blindly doing harbingers right now. proba bad idea. but playing Rend and it's very strong.
I guess just Banish the Nemesis if they dont have an exalted base Im looking for.
via doom or moviment speed?
only doom is more damage, speed is inc damage

you can kinda make LM work but it is a pain
need to run around like a chicken and kinda survive by dodging shit instead of 0 iq spamming rend
after they nerfed the slugs it is fine mostly
but you do get hit by like 6 or 7k regularly from random mobs at like 1k+ corry
so need to have enough ward or big endurance+hp + ward or something
I just ran into a group of 6 Covenant of Dominion... ๐
heh this is going to be another season that I don't kill uber aberroth proving once more that I am pretty bad at this game lol
no, game, im not doing that
its fine, only a fraction of players do it anyway
tbh it was kinda fun learning the mechanics etc in s2
now it kinda got powercrept but i think it is still a good skill check for most builds
tbh he only drops two unique items so other than this and the challenging itself of killing him... theres barely any point
he drops hella havoc runes
that is why most of us do it now tbh because even on MG the uniques are kinda cheap now
you see, the only thing I have going for me is resistance to boredom and perseverance, that's why I can play roguelites but not roguelikes, meaning that I don't mind grinding for 90 hours to kill a boss if I eventually get so powerful that mechanics can be face tanked. if it requires skill I am too bad at it lol
i mean even on my homebrew not usper op builds i have killed it you just get the feel
if you want you can watch the video i did i kinda explain when i bait x things
but also im not the greatest player either XD
rogue at least has a cheatcode kinda with silver veils
Thats just bunch of bad decision of the game system than a good reason of killing him
(that's how I beat Elden Ring btw I just overleved everything and cheesed the shit out of it) I have no pride
to be fair uber abby can be pretty much facetanked as rogue
i mean you can also get havocs on arbor so it is whatever but faming uber is more comfy
because F doing that dungeon
the only thing you wont be able to facetank is circle slam and giga beam
Dungeons need some massive rework to keep up 
but they have like 5+ seconds wind-up
i would not be ashamed to say i have been killed by the rotating glaive and the frontal that spews flames
quite a bit
when i was learning
That glaive is a solid nonsense, big damage and can really barely see it coming
giant balls of void going everywhere get me every time. but then again I was informed that my build is garbage and should be generating up to 10k shield and I get to like 5k on a good day
balls dont really do anything except applying frailty
pools from them does quite low damage
finally got it
I really love those minion affixes everywhere
Also ezpz resists
Wild ๐ I need to re-do my idols on the bladestorm detonate... I kinda didnt touch them since finishing campaign... 
im still running without primo btw
maybe i should just slam a spare discord at this point but my res will be messed up
i think my observer is bugged it gives too good idols now
The game knows you want to swap the build so it gives you good stuff
This one is very nice
it just doesnt dtop raining
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observer decided to give ne bvasically everything for whatever reason
sorry for spam but i find it hilarious 
It's not spam. It's just a nice hot streak. Congrats!
Now if only they'd drop your RRs you are seeking.
rrs are fine i can just farm favor, i have 350k already it shouldnt be that big of an issue
I tried killing uber last night and I have come to the conclusion itโs not possible to avoid everything and do damage as melee. You have to either be able to ignore the attacks with some type of immunity or one shot him.
I think the furthest I made it was maybe 30% and the ground was mostly covered in purple puddles by that point. Iโm. Or sure what ended up killing me because you canโt see anything and the screen is pure chaos.
It definitely helps the range of affixes for rogue idols are very small vs compared to Sentinel ones so your drops are easier to maxroll or get pretty good ones
I also learned some of Ubers attacks are undodgeable even with silvershroud
Its very annoying you need a build where you can learn the mechanics f the fight ,you can get rid of purple pools with the fire typhoon he puts like on you
Oh wow didnโt know that was possible.
I hate that fight BTW but if you learn all that he does its easier to pull
After about 64% I did nothing but kite and jump around with smokebomb trying to dodge and weave to stay alive.
I did abomination last league and having a minion for me helped me understand how the fight goes
The fire aura removing the purple puddles should help me to get some uptime.
You gotta be preemptive on every single threshold of him at 64 go fast kill new harbinger at 33-37 % go fast kill second avoid the wave since if it hits you ,you loose all res for the rest of the fight making it way harder,you can tank like the first wave kamehame he does but the second cast is a one shot
Also some people like putting him on the corners of the arena I likr the middle for easier move around gameplay at the end
Can you just overcap rez to ignore the wave or no?
it removes max rez
No avoid them
i try to keep him at the top as long as i can for beams to spawn vertically
Getting hit once its not the worst but if you get hit 2-3 times either you are dead or take too much.uch damage
or at the bottom, but at the bottom the sand pools on phase 3 apply frailty
Also this wont apply to rogue but brewmaster belt saved me so many times in uber
Insane item
yeah i love it as well
it got even better with endurance passive for easier endu cap
Yeah plus for ward build I got like the health potion goes to ward so that saved me a ton,its hard to tank the triple waves when you fail at it and survive
swear this is the last time I will bother you about this build but how does this one even work without Tabi to keep you in the smoke or shift recalling blades for mana
it doesnt? you either use shift with umbal recall or spam rend in smoke, or both
tabi and smoke for bosses, umbral recall for monos
i think id pass and rather answer some quiestions
Theres like 0 reason not to take Shift UB recall for mapping, its just so nice to have
maybe I just want to make the build really unplayable, that would be A reason
I can always give you some weird looking planner so you can be my new lab rat 
Unpaid, no vacation, only theoretical help, you can take a break to drink (your own) drinks during the day... kinda a good deal
there is actually. they do pretty good damage with throwing scaling and they have huge aoe with explosion
but for running monos fast its a worthy sacrifice id say
The explosions are definitely cool and when like 50 of them go boomboom after fight thats also cool but theres already aoe clear with Cascade, so idk
aoe chill, aoe bleed for jormund maybe, aoe shadow daggers application, aoe shred
but yeah having mana on recall is just too good to pass for monos
@buoyant roost t4+t2 suffixes, but holy what a swee combination ๐
what kind of idol affixes would yall put on a detonating arrow build?
im trying to do a chain lightning type of build
Never played it other that for the 3 minutes of trying hot it looks while lvling MM... but I'd guess crit chance / %inc dmg with bow / %lightning pen on weaver idols
Here's a dumb question. Careful Assault (in Cascade tree). I'm wondering if I have too fast of melee attack speed to take advantage of 2 points into it. Smoke Bomb just isn't generating shadows fast enough for me to consistently put 2 up to get the 50% multi damage. I'm thinking I might need to knock this down a peg, especially since I'm using Dancing Strikes to apply most of my SCs. So is two points worth occasionally getting 50% multi or best to put it down to 1 point to get a consistent 25% multi, especially for bossing.
bet, ill try those and shop around
Yeah Iโm doing a janky self inflicted hard mode.
I use shadow rend and shadow cascade with ward on shadow creation but I donโt use umbral blades for the one shot.
Iโm just using some rag tag setup with blade Storm, sync strike, rend, cascade, and smoke bomb.
Gear is strand of souls, razorfall, two font of the erased, Omni, and doppelganger set reforged with dual tongues.
I canโt just stand in everything with my ward build up. Maybe if I go more I could.
I aint a rogue main ,but I am sure if you share your planner maybe someone can give you a tip here and there that may make the experience easier,i respect the no abuse umbral one shot๐
Im about to head back into work. Iโm going to try again tonight with the tips you gave me about the fire and the blue wave. See how I do.
I just changed something with sync strike last night on my last attempt and it helped me get to 30% or so. I only got one pull off with it before I needed to stop.
I think I can get it tonight.
Lets gooo
Thats a nice one ๐ I need to reroll mine, +4/+16% is ugly
getting lp might be tricky
yep, 100% ๐
third no lp (
Are you just getting lucky today or did you mess loot filter or something? ๐
just lucky
or rather i got compensation for my bad luck previously i guess
like i said i spent around 500-600k favor on rings and 200+ asc runes on cof rings and got 0 rrs
which shouldnt be the case at all
No, it shouldn't. My one RR, was via Ascend rune. Took maybe 90-100 runes. So, you for sure are progressing to the mean.
thats giga lucky
it has around 1\900 chance of dropping or ascending
Well, I paid for it (in terms of luck). I later, that same day, ruined a 4LP Peak helm. 
corrupted?
Yep. Finally found the T7s I wanted and BAM. Ruined. I keep it in inventory as a reminder that sometimes the rune gives and sometimes it takes.
i dont see myself corrupting a 4lp peak unless i have a spare one
I have a spare one but I'm not liking the combination of other stats on it.
I remember corrupting well rolled 1LP Omnis... what a horrible day to make such terrible mistake... 
dam 4th rr no lp
Okay, so I've managed to work in Null Portent with maxed out dr from overcapped resistances, 2 red rings with 180+ total attributes, and ravenous void along with overcapped endurance. And I still die too frequently in ~400 corruption lol
I guess I need to re-prioritize health or just git gud or something
I'm also at a weird spot where Foot of the Mountain isn't really doing anything for me besides +12 all attributes so I hit RR requirements. Maybe I start gambling on Advent of the Erased
full uptime frenzy does sound kinda neat.
How much health do you have on what build?
2k, standard multishot with some slightly different gearing, passives and nodes
Obviously not meta. Wanted to try something with MS and play around with it this season to see how far I could push it
Should be fine with 2k tbh... I guess dodge itself isnt too great, glancing blow probably also low? ๐ค
glancing blows is quite low. I think my dodge also isn't great considering I think I sit at about 40% on average?
Sucks that MS doesn't have its own Dusk Shroud generator like HS does
overcapping res isnt worth it if you are running with 2k hp
instead of overcapping for 20% reduction you can get 50% more hp
I'm missing a few health% affixes to be fair. I just haven't had the time to work on getting better belts/gloves yet
I could have both health affixes on belt and hybrid on gloves
Ravs with t7 hybrid is quite great on its own
Hmm... actually, incorporating Ravager's could be sick. I've kind of had one skill that I could get rid of for a while
If Ravager's would auto cast the heartseeker, that ups the damage output. Although I'm leaning pretty heavily on Peak of the Mountain for an easy 3lp for +4 to multishot and +10% per arrow with multishot
However, I could work on a 3lp with those 2 affixes on Peak and then get a health mod on the last slot
if you have acess to vise id recomennd them over ravs
got first one
Biiiig
3 other rings died sadly
Its for a good cause
should i?
it doesnt really do anything but looks cool
i guess i can imprint at least
i decided to try finding some interesting +2 shadow gloves since im not wearing primo anyway
ideally t7 throw t5 melee as or vise versa
Might be cool for self cast Shuri shield ๐ค idk really about the shadows tho
i had like 40 glades anyway
...those Havoc runes are insanely unlucky hoooly
I was like 99.9% sure it would brick
hm mirage champion beasts are like a lot more rare than others or what
im resetting the same echo all the time and im getting like 1 mirage from 50 beasts
and tehre are only 14 types of them
while venomos infernal volcano are much more common and spawn multiple times per echo
I think I see them quite often ๐
Have you tried Pillar of Skulls? Im just not sure If reseting it gives champ loot
ah you want Primo :c
Other than Mirage primo, not sure which one I'd try farming... probably either Meteor on axe for the bleed convert build or that belt with crit chance for ele skills and fire aura chance sor maybe some lightning converted Rend to ezpz cap crit
Or the poison multishot one for some meme with multishot+crit shuri for poison 
yeah okay farming beasts for primo gloves looks like a terrible idea already
Wouldnt any other primo affix be also good?
so far the best i got
dunno
id prefer to have velocyn i guess
but it died at nemesis
glade also gives some bones so i thought why not
Gotta grind some bones for a new one ๐
ehhh I need to get some more phys resist, fix my idols and altar, crit avo and Im pretty much chilling with the build
Im still using the same weaver ring and boots I put on at lv16 
Just got my first uber kill. Thanks for the tips. It still took me a good number of tries to get the mechanics down.
Cheers glad it helped
why mirage primo and not dopple chest primo?
Extra shadow is just better damage If anything
Primo doppel relic is also good one
Oh it gives extra shadow too ๐ค
Might get a bit lucky with FP I guess, but looks doable for prefixes for sure ๐ค
...I just got the same MINION enchant 3 times ina row... what a great game design
So apparently everyone is farming legends entwined for shadows build? I am gonna farm it for bees tho lmao
Overall its a great ring ๐
Not having to worry about weps for rest of season at level 60 given I am using the apiary set is nice... Dagger farm was suffering last season. Instead I will just be suffering with Bloodkeeper Nest and Jungle Chaps farming...
Sheesher of a roll on this one, finally
Nice! I need to slam my aswell with something...
Yea it matters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3y91UnzWT0
@pearl forge mirages created by LM what ? 
dat data. thx.
defiled fortress
Rippy? I should prob do if im hunting exalts right. Looks like a perm buff to Nemesis
Yea do it, it also drops a ton of random exalted items,
Multimisery
Multi?
Yea
are you flirting with me?
I woudlnt dare
Oerden's Watch
Bloodline Glade
Vault of the Barnacle King
Woven Vessel of Chaos
Cenotaph of Worlds
Heart of the Hive - going in blind, shortly
Collapsing Horizon - going in blind, shortly
The Grand Brewery - going in blind, shortly
Lostwood Folly - going in blind, shortly
Any of these that I should avoid? HC Rend build. level 89
Was?
From the blind ones, Hive should be fine; Horizon is just a harbringer fight in used timeline; Brewery should be fine just some aoes flying around I think? Lostwood Folly keeps spawning mobs so dont afk and the mini-boss roaming outside with a staff does opening with a very rippy spinny laser so just bait and range kill it
Hab echt null Plan was ihr da brabbelt
thx. this spinning laser almost K'd me on my first char this Cycle. melted me! and I havent been back in since
how about the non-blinds? I have all those (uncompleted)
i tried googling most but limited info / no video guides or "careful!" type of reddit posts
Find ich nicht gut. Ich mag eher die Spitzen vom Spargel, und ihr so?
Oerden is just boringly low with waves of enemies, should be okay I guess... Bloodline can be rippy some Rift Beasts can hit pretty hard and you gotta kil like 8 of them... Vault shooould be okay just the lizards there can hit hard with some fire attacks... Vessel of Chaos should be okay, Cenotaph is kinda like a longer dungeon with a Firstborn boss at the end that summons 3 of the minibosses from Lostwood Folly, some of the attacks there can hurt quite a bit ๐ you can probably facetank plenty of stuff with Rend if you have good ward generation and other defenses
my build isnt fleshed out yet, especially propelry on the defensive layers. My ward per shadow is only T5, but it's still incredibly good, especailly if I pre-stack it before a boss.
Good info. thx!!
Yeah i guess, going in blind - one of the main things id be worried about are things like mechanics that can K (like burning ground in that one dungeon, 1-shot my char last Cycle). And 1-shot slams
But unless an encounter is abnormally tanky, the latter isn't much of a prob as my damage vs current corruption is very strong, and most things fall over.
Cenotaph can definitely have a lot of those since its basically the Weaver tomb but longer and tougher boss fight ๐ Bloodline beasts hit hard too, but If you just dodge away from the attacks, shouldnt be an issue
hype. got my first 200 Corruption, now I can farm an Omnis
(i know thats not an impressive milestone, generally speaking, lol)
This observer boss is insanely tanky, wtf
I was hitting the omens in the fight for nearly 2 million a shot and boss only takes like 30k
That's with a gorillon armor shred and 30% phys pen
Omens are super squishy
i wouldnt say observer is tanky at all
i ll say i am tanky
its like 1\4 of an uber if not less
but i m just fat
Is there a mechanic I'm not getting? Or does it really just take that less damage compared to regular stuff?
Musst halt diese anderen Dinger da killen, weil der ja immer kurz unverwundbar wird, oder?
you just damage him and kill omens by turn
when you can damage him the omen is invulnerable, when you can damage omen, observer is umvulnerable
after 3-4 omens killed only observer is left
So he really does just take less damage than everything else in the game?
By a significant margin?
Because my multishot hits for about 500k most everywhere else
dunno, i havent noticed it
And on him, I never even do over 75k
Maybe I was accruing some kind of debuff like abberoth has or something that reduces my output, idk
Gonna grind it out more later
Viel Erfolg dabei
Will doing a Confluene of Oblivion on my only character, in my highest (and only) corrupted timline, reset my timeline to 0?
Has any one tried a cold cold exploding blade storm blade dancer . I was thinking of making a build using it
Do you mean with Bladestorm? Its not bad, works quite nicely and has nice scaling especially If you put on Mourningfrost and the usual dexterity suspects, it just becomes a bit more squishy... Im playing the physical Bs Detonation right now and it feels good... not really some broken build tho
Damn nearly died in Oerden. Not even sure why. Was crushing the waves then 1 of the Champions took out like 3k ward and ~1.5k hp extremely fast
im lucky.
nice thanks Iv got left over stuff from cold hs so iv got dex stack stuff already so it shouldn't be to bad to make then , just looked like something different I could try
Its definitely fun and something new ๐
good this is the second time iv played cold hs and it just got old fast tbh
Hs is quite versatily now, a lot of playable options ๐ not every as strong as others, buuuut playable
Funny setup tho... still no idea If it works with Clotho or not, planner says yes but its probably lying to me but ingame its quite a lot of parries... 
this data is overwhkelming if i dont really understand the general mechanics. is there a TLDR of the rules, outside of the chances etc.
It seems like the higher the tier on the imprint, the higher the chances of a high tier on the item.
But in short, it's going to keep (some?) of the affixes from the Imprint right. So I want 2x T6+ of the actual affixes I want, right?
also it seems like higher FP remaining on the Imprint, is important.
Bro... Wait, could you theoretically get to 100% silver shroud uptime with rolls like this? If you rolled enough "% to not consume silver shroud"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4B3IXi9GPI Weaver Imprints finally SOLVED - Easy double T7 Crafting | Last Epoch 1.3
This may be what i need
You can check messages here from Hushed, he did some math for it ๐ 100% doesnt sound real but some very very high % for sure... and people said its also bugged right now for weaver affixes, but honestly I was too lazy to try myself ๐
#๐ชโrogue message
I think what you want is to imprint like t7 with t6 at least of what you want and also some high FP then chances should be higher in high corruption... I'd have to rewatch the video again tbh, its really a lot of info... ๐ but Sentinel is very active around to poke him for some questions If needed
96% to never get hit sounds insane, ngl
Yea its just suuuper dedicated to boosting it
I guess if you devote literally everything else to cleansing DoTs and straight damage, it would be neat?

guys i saw the tutorial about forging and slamming the affixes from purple items to legendary/unique ... allthough my filters keeps showing me bare blue and yellow are they suitable to be slammed to uniques or just the purple ones (exalted) ?
im playing 3 days tho and i just finished campaign so be a bit easy if i dont understand some mechanicks that you may mention
They need to be exalted (purple so tier 6 or 7, with 4 affixes; seal affix doesnt count), blues and rares dont matter
I believe you can only slam exalted items into uniques
so the yellow and blues i am picking up should get sold or dropped
perfect , also , my filter for my build (which is the shadow rend rogue ) aparently has set items off even on the early levels of filter ... i did noticed that the end game gear is full of set items
have i done something wrong on that ?
Selling items to vendor is a waste of time, they basically have no gold value ๐ what you can do is to open your Forge (default keybind should be "G"), put the blue/rare/exalted item you dont want there and use Shattering rune to break the item into shards which you can craft later... Shatter rune will give you a random amount from the item; but If you use Removal rune (better to use on some class affixes or more rare affixes) that gives you the maximum amount from the item
so the yellow stuff should be shattered correct ?
I wouldnt use that filter at all, especially when being new to the game, it hides whole bunch of items that you might still use and can be used for upgrades
owh , i am all ears
something you would recomend ?
as of now im really invested into learning crafting
and adding 1-4 LP
and make a good legendary item
Yea, but not exactly every item.... If you play Rogue, you pretty much want to hide all items for non-Rogue and at the start pick items with Rogue affixes to shatter them so you can craft... something like this, just for the start set the tier at the bottom to "1" and in Affixes - select all the Rogue affixes => those items just shatter
Uniques with LP either drop or you can pick up 0LP unique and later on when you open the menu from Nemesis, there will be "egg" window where you can put that 0LP item and Nemesis will either give the item 1LP or higher; or give it a random affix (which is mostly crap, but still can be used later on)
OMH
OMG , is that what it is ?
the boss that says empower or chalenge ?
i put a 0 LP unique ?
because there is some bosses that they let me put an item in it
i just didnt know what i should have put tbh
A lot of people like filter from Raxx, he explains how the filter works... its good but I honestly find it too complicated for the start... second link is pretty much what I use, I believe you can somehow copy and paste it into the game, I tried to add a text to most of the rules saying what to do in the rule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdeLGcGQrjM&t=1367s
https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/DQ9J08PB
Yea, in the early game and lower corruption maps the egg isnt guaranteed... but on higher corruption, like 250+ I'd say it shows up pretty much all the time... you put 0LP there, Empower it and over like 3 fights the itemss there get better
@tender cairn definitely give the Game Guide a look as well. It's one of the better in-game guides in the industry imo. I don't remember the key to open it but it should be in your keybinds.
It has answers to a lot of the beginner questions you may have about how things work in the end game
Right, game guide is "G"; Forge should be "V"
I think its the default
Always ask 
could some1 direct me to a tutorial of how to work that thing out ,,, i mean i am going around maps and killing stuff
but i bet there is some mechanic i should focus or something and not just random hoping around
also i havent unlocked any blessings yet (or maybe just one , not sure about it) im still working out other stuff , i think its a bit too much information for a full time worker to learn with in a day
Well, its a huge cluster of maps you can run... its not endless, there is always "Shade of Orobyss" boss fight at the end of the line (3).
You start in the middle and slowly want to make your way somewhat far away from the middle, complete Echoes to fill the "Stability" bar at the top; once its filled you fight timeline boss (1) and killing the boss gives you "Gaze of Orobyss" (4).
Ideally you want to collect 4 Gazes and then you find Shade of Orobyss somehwat far from the middle and kill it. By killing it you reset the timeline and increse Corruption level for that timeline (2) cab see it at the bottom in middle... but If you have Gaze of Orobyss, by killing Shade boss it consmes 4 stacks of Gaze to give you a bonus corruption (by default it should be +12 corruption per Gaze)
so i should kill the boss every time its full instead of continue going arounf
Your Stability bar at the top is super full, so what you want to do now is to click the "boss echo" in middle bottom, that gives you 1 Gaze and you'll also have choose from few blessings avaiable for this timeline
Yea pretty much for now yeah
i killed the boss but it remained on 114 coruption
that must be it
i must finish this map as well i believe
Yea this one
also after killing the boss i still have enough for another boss
should i go for it ?
before or after the echo of the world ? if yers
yes *
You could kill the timeline boss few more times to increase corruption as much as possible... but of course it'll slowly get more difficult; ideally 200 corruption because bosses have more uniques that drop there
Up to 4
No, what will give you more corruption is how far that "Echo of a World" is from the center and If you have 4 stacks of Gaze of Orobyss when you kill the Shade boss
Yea its a common game issues now... it should be fixed in the next update hopefully soon... If you exit the game and log back in, it should work (at least it does for me)
This is quite possibly the cruelest irony
Speccing out of Point Blank to make this corruption work is not worth, unfortunately
yo im just coming back to the game and trying to catch up with meta. how are you meant to get a 2 piece set with jormuns thirst without the other jormun items? i have a set relic & helm but its seperate to belt
"Entwined" unique ring from the Rift Beast vendor that works as a set piece for every set
i see bro thank you
It gets even better. You can get the pyramid one which fits three huge idols each with t7 would be 30% base chance to not consume. T7 corrupt is something like 58% increased weaver.
Ignore this. This is for 1.3.
Exalts got nerfed 90% this season in imprint. Uniques got nerfed 50%.
TLDR only out uniques in your imprints for season 4
This was a big player in my uber Abby kill today I think. My chance to not consume is 25% total and Iโm pretty sure it saved me a couple of times. This also helped when I was helping my buddy push shades up to 2000c.
Just remember there are some attacks that cannot be dodged.
Teleport to end of time then teleport back. It resets it.
The entire monolith tree of all monos is considered the same area I think.
jsut did a ton of Sceptre Exalted prophecies. Zero double-exalted items. Is that a low chance method to yield double exalts or something?
Prophecies are pretty bad for exalts and are generally not worth doing for that,for uniques and other stuff they are great. What kinda of exalts you want likr 1t7 1t6 /2t7/2t6 ?
I have a 4LP Firestarter's. So I want at least t7/t6 Sceptre
I need to set craft on: Chest, Belt, Ring, Relic. So I think ideal is 1o, 1pre, 2x T7 Suffix, is ideal...
But I havent even seen one Double t7 yet. and very few 2x t6 or t6+t7. Granted, Im not that deep yet, but i neeed to start getting these upgrades.
Especially the Sceptre. cuz my current Firestarter's is only T7 Melee Attack Speed.
That's why Im trying to force the Sceptre. It's by far my biggest dps upgrade on the obtainable horizon
-- So I'm hunting Nemesis too. 2x Conquered Tower on Weaver Tree.
I also need a billion Runes of Havoc. So I'm doing ever Riftbeast I encounter. And 3x rewards the Rune reward echoes I path through.
Havent been doing it long enough to know if it's ideal. So far not too impressive, but small sample size
Nemesis at the highest corruption you can do is probably your best bet for multi-exalt items.
Imprint once 2 times doesn't do anything for proc rate of woven echoes
From my experience and this varies for each person if you spend 300k favor you should get at least 2 items with 1t7 1t6 ,and maybe 8 to 10 2t6 maybe you get lucky and a 2t7 drops but again it varies a lot and its very rare to happen
Nemesis is best bet at multi exalt but is not targeted and that sucks,you can imprint but keep in mind they absolutely gutted multiexalt
90% reduce according to data mine supposedly is what someone mentioned in the ask the devs channel.
Virtually non-existent. I've had two multi-exalt items in my tree since season start and never once had a single hit on either of them. I swapped them out today after learning it was a 90% nerf.
Got my 1st red ring ever today. I put it in the tree and in a map and a half I had a dupe. Exact same rolls too.
oh 2x t7 in imprints is no longer viable strat? that is what I am trying to get 2x t7 for (imprinting)
correct, nemesis or rune prisons at high corruption is best now imo
nemesis you can get some wild items, but often times they have a sealed affix which makes them harder to play with
just seeing this. sry i missed it.... AH.....
I got a 3T7 no seal from a nemesis today
That's brutal. cuz imprints were a way to "print" the item
of course I bricked it immediatly rolling redemptions
good t7s must be much more rare now.
So Corruption makes a big impact now? Im playing HC so i gotta be care how i scale it
Its what I said to you ๐คฃ
Anyway thats what frozen posted in cof and the other day in community chat
Its like 90% or more which kinda kills endgame for this game but oh well
Hype - just got my first 2x T7. From a Nemesis Tower. soooo if I cant do someting with this item immediately, it's useless ? (e.g. i cant imprint it or anyting else of value to try and keep getting more 2x T7s from it)
i mean i believe that has to be what they did, i never hit one a single double exalt from my tree, and as soon as i swap the double exalt with the unique it's instant proc, that might actually be the tech now that i think about it
i wonder if there's a bad luck mechanic you could manipulate by running a double exalt for a while and then swap a unique in to proc it on purpose (this is all placebo I'm sure....but I wonder)
how good are chest corruptions are there any good apart from the + stats one
You may get a lucky 2t7 proc ,but they basically make it so you won't and most time is plain 1t7 ,?maybe 1t6 shows up idk my lootfilter is only 2t7 gear and up and I never got a 2t7 proc from my 3t7 gear,rarely i did get a 2t7 proc from my 4t7 chest
And my gear has a ton of fp as well
you can always removal and hope you don't hit one of the T7's then havoc, or seal a low affix and then havoc after adding the one you want. if you get tripple exalt I think the play is to redemption and pray
i need 10,000,000 more Havocs tho
Kill uber is your best bet
Like an easy one shot build if you want
Havocs are a pain even for people who played a ton like me ,only when I went full farm uber I stop having havoc problems
The health one is nice,percent mana one also for some builds
yea man im so unlucky and crafting chests is so annoying
Most of my corruption are absolute garbage so I am in the same boat
yea i was so angry missing weapon like 15 times
always shit corruptions or useless things
forcing 2x t7s through Nemesis sounds horrible. cuz you cant target farm the type, let alone sub type. And then youre at the mercy of it essentially having most of the right mods..
cuz of FP constraints
Agree at least only silver lining is that nemesis exalts have amazing fp ,they go over 60 ,something normal exalts can't
Whats the best falconer build for clear speed
Ugh, I don't think there are any speedy ones
Dang, is bladedancer better in every way rn?
I mean with high CDR the umbral falconer is pretty fast.
But it doesn't give you full guaranteed screen clear, making it a bit jittery.
Jittery in the sense that using two smoke bombs instead of one to clear the screen feels a bit meh.
But it was my first rogue this season if you want to take a look: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Alpheus1/character/EagleDancer
Okay sure let me take a look
Ballista falconer clear fast
Ye ballista clear is two-screens wide but it has that "staying behind" playstyle that you might not like.
Also the constant potion spamming gives me RSI, hard pass for me.
I am torn between bladedancer and LMAO BEES.
btw, I'm back with the Observer stats
He does put a debuff on you that decreases your damage
Oh, and in the last phase, he really does just take like 90% reduced damage unless there's something I'm genuinely missing in the fight
you guys now a way i can get 5k health gen?
What's the best way to try and trigger the red ring imprint?
finish echoes at 3x reward
that said getting red rings from imprints is kinda dead this season
I wouldn't recommend trying
if you're CoF, just do ring prophecies
much faster
im in around 1m favor on rings already and i have only 1 1lprr
can confirm, had red ring imprint since day 3 and never seen a proc
im not feeling like farming favor for now
1m for 1 1lp is not too bad tbh ๐
I think it was ~200k average per ring?
and ~1:8 for 1LP
just doubles it afaik
its only crazy if you are lucky
i went 600k favor on unique rings and 200+ asc runes on cof rings and had 0 rrs
then i got 4 from the next 350k favor
if you dont have ward on helm then probably makes sense to use reforged
ye i think you are right, i went to the dummy just to check the damamge and reforged was wayyy more dmg
logically yes, but maybe the +1 shadow and +1 to skills outweigh it? idk
+1 shadow is present in both
+1 skill can be big but it shouldnt be as big as 200% inc damage unless you messed up some points
I dont think so tbqh all I can do is record it as proof, no clue what actually changed, bvt you are correct about the +1 shadows
i dont need to see it i had a pretty good guess already i think
you are loosing a point in careful assault without noticing it or smth
i can go again and try it out and make sure its 4/4
Hey, is Mourningfrost even working with Heartseeker?
Got the cold conversion from Controlled Icicle, sitting at 140 Dex, but I'm only hitting like 10โ20k. Something feels off.
what
oh well could have been worse
I wanna try to make a cold bladestorm build using this and traitors tongue that isn't zhp or whatever using the other primal thing.
Dunno what chest I'd even switch to for decent survivability is the problem..
elecoe or null probably
Gonna need the not shorthand of those.
Core of the mountain could be good as well with mourning frost dex stacking
Core / Kestrel is great too / possibly Prism Wraps for the start / Elecoe
Astral Blood If you decide to go lowlife, but idk if thats really worth it
i think my single target dps is already as good or better than melee had, even without umbral recalls https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qdz2jEZe
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5
Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (74) / Falconer (14)
โธ Health: 2,051, Regen: 0/s
โธ Mana: 205.51, Regen: 9.52/s
โธ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 7 Str / 24 Dex / 7 Int / 7 Att / 22 Vit
โธ Resistances: 146% / 100% / 76% / 76% / 93% / 70% / 75%
โธ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 839
โธ Dodge Chance: 33% (1152)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,089)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 26%
โธ Crit Avoidance: 35%
lirakas should have been t7 as t5 throw tho
Ucenui / Artifice
Mourningfrost
Liraka / Riverbend
Snowblind
I guess with Rend everything prettymuch melts anyway... be it aoe or single target... ๐
i didnt like how melee performed in omen veil and observer
it was fine but enemies lived too long and there were too many of them runnung at me. and in observer fight omen and observer are constantly moving and i had to chase them with my shadows which spawn with a delay
throwing clears much better
Was gonna try to get this but idk if I solved my resists enough to even make the switch currently.
It helps a lot too when you decide to go for Red Ring
You can get a lot of res from a nialis or omnis if you need a lot of. You can farm omis and slam them and corrupt tell you hit max roll and you will have 45% all res
You dont want to know how lucky you have to be for that ๐
Itโs not to bad I have one it took 11 positive corrupts https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/EyeOfSuede/character/Suede_Eye_
https://youtu.be/oXRVELu45Jw?si=pt9mf82oH3FUkbzB This strat actually works to farm them but it is kind of boring not going to lie
Well eventually you just get it, yea :p I just wouldnt count with any corruption to make a build unless its the shuriken corruption
Looks like nice gear to swap for the cold Bladestorm, have you tried it already?
Not yet I was playing some stuff with my buddies last night so havenโt been on le for a couple days , probabaly going to hop on this week end and farm out tongues and primo daggers and hit slams this week then swap over
Blade shield shuriken quite bonkers with new corruption of shurikens on bow and quiver,infinite shurikens multishot one shot
Fair ๐ Velocyn and Tongue sounds like a good combo for this, yea ๐ค Im playing phys version with 2H and it honestly works pretty great too... not some insane build, but it works well
Yea the corruption is great ๐ Heartseeker one can get you some wild amount of Blade Shields
I need to grab the explosive trap relic as well but it donโt seem all that rare so it should be okay
Yea should be easy enough with like 2LP and +2 to throwing skills
Do you get much for trap spawns with exploding blade storm ?
Some decent number I'd say, should be enough to keep the cold res shred stacks up
Nice , thanks for all the info
What is just sad is the detonation doesnt get converted to cold aswell... that would be suuuper nice to have
Oh really I was assuming it did , you tested it ?
I just checked the tags and it stayed as Physical, but still scaling from throwing
Sadness
Maybe the game is just lying to use tho... not sure ๐
I guess still fine for normal Ms?
You trying for for shadow rend multi shot again ?
yeah but im not doing it wothout shuri
wdym again
i still dont have drelk
tbf i havent even farmed it really
im still missing 1rr
Trying to get shuriken corrupt before you try it , is that the vision ?
Thats like the only way to proc shurikens without manually casting them... so ye ๐
im corrupting all 0lp drelks but i have like 15 1lp which i havent used
and i havent used favor for bows yet either
ill get to it once i get second rr
Iโm aware , I just wasnโt sure what the vision was to try to make multi rend playable . I tried it early on but wasnโt having much success
Good to hear itโs a cool looking and fun build if only the damage and mana sustain was better it could be more viable with out an rng corrupt
I just tried to see how much cold res shred does boss have and it was perma 10 stacks, so its fine ๐
Which one you going for? Sanquine?
yeah
yep all dead, oh well, i didnt epect it to succeed so easily
back to farming rrs i go
what're the best ways to make BD feel more durable? I am trying a few differnt builds and they all feel so fragile. Should I just be playing low life with architects?
I think I'll have to farm some Brewmaster to use instead of Queen... not quite sure yet ๐ค
Dodge, frailty on enemies, blind so you dont have to stack crit avoidence, Glancing blow, health+endurance, leech... depends on the build, ward on shadow creation... and ofc killing enemies before they get the chance to smack you
Silver shroud to avoid big hits
maybe one day when Rogue gets void stuff...
another 300k without a ring smh
hey guys what armor is this good to slam on for a shadow cascade bladedancer
other than discord, titans heart or null portent
Kestrel is easy to get 3-4LP, 2LP Astral Blood if you get lucky with the slam and want to go low life
But its fine as it is now
Hey Rogues!
I went Shadow Cascade with my Bladedancer. However I don't like the guide on Maxroll, and on Youtube there is a vast ocean of guides, and I'm not sure which one I should follow...
Any Shadow Cascade guide recommendations?
I do the classic shadow cascade bladedancer build
i use syncronized strike to send forth shadows and then i press shadow cascade and each shadow uses it
@flint bough Forgot to mention that I also use Shadow Rend.
oh i see
Not sure if that changes things but I like Shadow Rend ๐
i just slammed this because there was nothing better. im just happy i didnt brick it
@flint turret just fyi, as long as your damage is decent, you don't really need drek's for a while. I got to 500 corruption before i finally got a drek's with it (Took me about 40 tries), and never had mana issues because stuff died so quick. Bosses were still dying in about a second at 500 corruption. Just helped to have mana regen on a piece or two to help offset it.
im already over 1000 corr a long time ago
Ah np. I made a completely fresh char for my multishot
unless im willing to downgrade a lot id rather farm drelk first
Thats very nice!
just need some big 2H weapon ๐ Ive briefly tried World Splitter with Sync Strike that automatically used Shadow Cascade, together with Umbral Blades that appeared after shadows expired/got consumed => Shift that recalled the Umbrals to get mana back+mana from shift... it did some nice numbers, should be very nice with this Titan
sierpin is better imo
Good luck! It was insanely frustating getting that corrupt to hit. I eventually gave up even slamming LP and just would corrupt as soon as they dropped no matter what
i mean i have t7 shuri on gathering fury 0lp but that wont work for rend multishot sadly
i have a question about the slammed affixes. Which one is better? the +4 or the increased damage per shadow
melee or throwing? for throwing id def say +4
it needs more points
overall id say even on classic cascade ward on shadow is a priority now
Yea its good too, but when I was trying to get one with good rolls it was pretty annoying...
because of omens
Yea the increased damage per active shadow... but +4 is definitely nice to have for Cascade too
same reason throwing > melee
i out my extra points into this. is this good?
If you have Careful Assault, the mana gain nodes, Leveraged Momentum; then yea, can get this too... there is also Flow State but since you only have 1sword intead of dual wielding sword+dagger... could probably go for Flow State anyway and rest of the points for some extra Carnage
some well rolled Orb could be quite fun too
i have flow
this is my shadow cascade tree
i think i took every node that's useful to my build
another question
Yea looks good
since its insanely easy and cheap to get 2lp titans bricked
should i keep rerolling until i get closer to 90% inc per shadow
okay im unspeccing the points now
Could definitely try to go for better rolls
not like they would be any bad by now
dont bother with titan better slam and corrupt 1lp null if anything
you dont even need damape per shadow that much
your sync is +200 per cast stacking for 4s
so i dont need damage?
you dont need increased damage that much
bless the turtle
the thing is
im having really long shade fights at 6.7k corruption
so i thought i should get more damage
Survavibility at 6.7k is running around and not getting hit 
dancing strikes it is then
i tried earlier dancing strikes
what are you even doing at 6.7 corr with melee build bro
i was at around 2k corruption and i wasnt doing it right so i switched to smoke bomb
do you like pain that much
dunno whats fun in dying constantly tbh
i dont die every map
it would make much more sense if at least you were using throwing casdade
but melee at that high corr... yikes
i actually am able to survive if im alert and restart the map if certain enemies pop uip
i might make a video of 6.7k corruption
i made one of shade fight
I'd be very interested in seeing that ๐
If you lacking damage you kinda need dancing strikes that being said rogue can play at higher corruption more easily but likr i aint sure I wanna do a 4 min fight vs shade every time
okay so get dancing strikes
its only shade i need damage for
i have it for maps easy
Ok I might actually have to ditch Shadow Rend, because that looked like a lot of fun! Could you share your build somehow if possible please?
btw hi
4.5 min orobyss fights for sure is not for everyone to enjoy
i enjoy it
yeah im not saying i dont believe you or anything, afterall i killed uber with low lp hs and the fight took like 11 min after 2-3 days of failed attemts, but i wouldnt do it a second time for sure
Oh you are not doing the broken thingy with shadow ward and such
For me its not great at farming and you get no loot difference
no im not using shadow rend
You can use it with lethal mirage as well
and sync strike
my shade fights at 6.7k corruption are longer now than in the video
so thats why im getting more damage
mapping is ifne
fine*
even champions are doable
and map bosses
etc
you can get significantly more damage only by droppinf defences
xithara amulet for example
If you do the ward shadow thingy on your build you can get like 7-10k ward easily
Just damage with shadow cascade per shadow is big as well
so i can get a bunch of free affixes for damage
not really
sync gives 200 shadows damage per cast for 4s
hes at +1000 inc damage after 5 casts already just from sync
anouther idol for extra 120 isnt a bid deal
pen+flat idols however...
can you send me pic of idols i should buy
rn the most damage you can get the most easily is going for xithara amulet
you decide if its worth
i got all the nodes you recommended
I have 2 points left
remaming 2 can go to crit damage i guess
goti t
or back into shred if you are styruggling to get over 100 stacks on bosses
how are you getting to 200 bleed stacks without both passives?
rewatched video, i guess you just dont
okay we will fix it hopefully
can you help me fix that?
i mean bleed
not stacks
why do you even have flow
flick told me i needed flow
lol
for mroe damage on the 4th skill
but yeah what both passives do i need?
ah okay
try this
it should fix both bleed and shred
and silver shroud
lets also fix umbral tree
im pretty sure you are over but i dont feel like calculating
maybe you can remove 1-2-3 points from weapons of choise
alright, not bad
so the 25% bleed chance is all I need for bossing?
why 25
yeah thats good
okay i take it back when i said i like omen veis for favor now instead of rune prisons. decently set-up rune prison gives like 12k favor per 2min clear
Sounds pretty good
1 min if i dont loot
well, got the max roll corruption, we take those 
nice
thats why red ring 1lp is non existent in the MG
because people mass buy them for corruption
not saying you're MG just stating that ๐
I wouldnt touch MG even If I had infinite gold tbh
I've played both CoF and MG so I like both
trying to reroll your redring before slaming - feed a bunch of old red rings - continue to slame - corrupt -> max roll all stats

Hey, what's best? The kismet sword and lose the set bonus and primordal effects or keep the set stuff? Shadow rend build
wthats the best way to farm gold on cof
corrupt the weaver swords and see after 
im tired of selling unique rings for 1-2k gold
for what do we need gold on CoF?
tabs
Got the max current affix corruption thingy, so not too bad
mastery swap
i would swap the swords then ig
you only lose the +1 level of skilsl from the ring
you still have the 2pc set effect which is the important one
whats "ig"?
Where attack speed
i assume same as mg, doing ubers
Can't have it all sadly ๐
i guess
i always add it to the end of my sentences
so no one can blame me
btw guys, i tried creating any build around this weapon, i give up now, there is nothing good
Well time to farm more Lostwood Follies
i used that weapon on my first playthrough with spellblade ๐
its good for leveling ig
but i dont see how i can get the 5k health regen
Which does what? I'm not following, too new ig(!)
yeah that only got me to empowred monos if i remember
There are 3 weaver mini-bosses, each drop their specific weapon... one with staff and deadly af lasers, second one with 2h Clotho needle sword and third spinny one with the 1h sword you need
kinda takes long to clear abby and then uber abby, im tired of that stupid harb cutscene
oh ok, so you mean just more farming the sword to please the rng gods ๐
if you could get a cold meele attack, which scales with strength, it could be really good when having around 5k health regen
but there is no strength scaling meele cold attack
If anything, you take it and craft a 1h sword to combo it with Entwined ring just for the set completion bonuses
no i want my 5k health regen
you dont understand
Sadly yes, but once you get like t7 attack speed on that sword, with big luck even attack speed corruption, then its super big boost with Abandoned set bonus for 50% increased affixes
I have 202 right now... ๐
its true that theoretically that sword could be good
almost at 5k, just a bit off
there are many good things scaling around it, only the acutal skill is missing lmao
There is literally nothing for it ๐ best you get is the flat cold melee
you have a set that gives health regen for strength - then you get 2k% increased cold dmg - and with this one relic you can get 30% health regen converted into ward, which would be like 500 ward per second
I lied, you could go Jhelkor for melee DA converted to cold 
have you tried finding out the max health regen you can get?
didnt bothered since there is no strenght scaling cold meele attack
since stacking strength is kinda bad when the actual skill doesnt use it
only then i think it would be good
The only 2 classes that can pull that health regen is Sentinel and primalist
i mean you could go for rampancy and go for more dmg via mana cost thing, but then you also need to manage mana regen next to health regen which sounds terrible
Cold multistrike pally or something like that kinda cool
you convert strength to rampacy or whatever it is from the corruption and could go cold melee DA... thats about it
Brutality, thats the one
with the node? ๐
detonating arrow and memed xd
@admins
i hope you pee yourself when you sleep today
Im gonna be in your bed when I do
i hope so
the only strenght scaling meele cold skills are in primalist
but idk how good this class is
Hey Mike
hey
jest tested, funnily enough falcon glove without any throwing damage give more damage to throwing cascade than t7 lirakas
this >
over this
and im talking about damage per hit, not even total dps
Its pretty sad the only use of Falcon are the two affixes there...
yeah i guess i can just go vise
almost same as
no endurance tho
oh well who cares
tbh i never expected that as scales casacde that much that even dropping from 160 to 124 flat and 504 to 386 multi but gaining 55 as will end up being a tiny win for dmg per hit with as
not to mention overall dps
Questionable build at best, no idea about building DA 
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGzxjYwn
Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5
Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (36) / Marksman (30) / Falconer (20)
โธ Health: 3,106, Regen: 1,649.2/s
โธ Mana: 200.51, Regen: 8.96/s
โธ Ward Retention: 62%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 35 Str / 79 Dex / 31 Int / 31 Att / 87 Vit
โธ Resistances: 84% / 35% / 76% / 92% / 91% / 115% / 120%
โธ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 1,087
โธ Dodge Chance: 31% (1068)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 11% (300)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
โธ Crit Avoidance: 75%
have you read the set?
MELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Just swap dex to str then but then you also lose cold from Mourningfrost
sadly no Spriggan form for rogue...
i think you could do something with acid flask + bees as engine
but a strength skill would still be better for this
also add bees
you could get bees corruption from Idols I guess, but thats losing the health regen idols, so idk... thats too much math for me to care about
Hey guys!
Instead of creating a seperate Rogue with Shadow Cascade I decided to try and mix it with my Shuriken/Bladestorm Rogue and it worked really well imo.
Please ignore, Dancing Strikes, as it's only there for filler due to my Shift sharing cooldown with Smoke Bomb now that it counts as a Traversal skill so I had to put something there.
Question I have for you is what do I spend my remaining 5x points on in the Shadow Cascade skill tree? I've never used the skill before so I'm not sure exactly what to take, and I'm all ears if you have suggestions! ๐
and I forgot about Throne of Ambition, thats some bees right there too
but again, less health regen