🔪┃rogue

[buoyant roost]

I had only 1 😄

[flint turret]

you need 2 to get to entry points

how can you have 1

[buoyant roost]

I have 2 in poison below

[flint turret]

you have poison on lirakas

[buoyant roost]

let me see some passive

[shell hamlet]

got a planner 😄

?*

[buoyant roost]

yeah but I haven't pushed it much. sec

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BakbaV5r

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (73) / Falconer (9)

General:

▸ Health: 1,866, Regen: 18.6/s
▸ Mana: 146.46, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 72%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 52 Dex / 18 Int / 15 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 25% / 46% / 132% / 13% / 37% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 597
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (511)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (780)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 13%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Cinder Strike / Bladestorm / Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens

[buoyant roost]

how would you tell ethe difference on the dummy thouhg

[flint turret]

wdym just hit it

remove shred, leave only poison or bleed, try it, then add the second dot

[buoyant roost]

but how do I gauge it

[wary cedar]

corrupt it

[flint turret]

my farming luck completly ran out i guess, im on 50 peaks as COF and only 1 if them is 3lp kekw

[buoyant roost]

theres zillion damages comiong out

[buoyant roost]

i leave corruptions to you. you are corrupt inside

[flint turret]

dont make it a line

[wary cedar]

i ll allow you

[ebon jungle]

mine through turtle not even a drop

[buoyant roost]

you know what. im just going to go J4 again 😄

I mean....

it defintely feels faster

[flint turret]

yo uare welcome

[serene crane]

Now lightning res shred from Lagoon, resistances are overrated

[wary cedar]

resistances are corrupted anyway

[buoyant roost]

i have lightning damage XD

but I think static shell sux anyway

double t7 purple or t7&t6 should do better.

[serene crane]

You could also try Prism Wraps

[buoyant roost]

I'm going to farm exlacted bows and corrupt them when they have attack speed

[flint turret]

not really worth over gathering, its 50 as even outside of repeats

[serene crane]

At that point I'd rather slam them on Fury and corrupt

[buoyant roost]

@wary cedar

XD

[wary cedar]

those corrupted exalted must be the most useless things in the game

[serene crane]

one of the better ones I got... 😄

[wary cedar]

now make it a unique

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane help a brother

[serene crane]

I see 236 unique bows, all corrupted

[buoyant roost]

true that Xd

since I used 100 today to get RR

but hearing Ragu's luck I gave up 😄

[wary cedar]

my best rr has 16dex and +4 throwing damage

[serene crane]

Well fishing for RR has surely way worse chances than a unique bow with good shuriken corruption 😄

[flint turret]

dont be, im just unlucky, ususally its much easier to get rr

it should be around 250k favor

and 250k favor is 2hours of farm max

[buoyant roost]

I haven't really farmed unique ring prophecies yet. Im spending it too much on other stuff. like today I took around 50 prophecies for helm exalted to get the lightning shuriken damage. I found like say 30 T7 hemlets with prefix. Now you guess where my redemptions have gone onto. Not a single Shuriken damage

insane

[wary cedar]

bro

wtf

that's like the worst way you could do that xd

[flint turret]

wait you dont have 11 rank cof?

[buoyant roost]

why lvl11? im maxed

[flint turret]

oh no

someone has to tell him

[buoyant roost]

again missing something 🙁

rare prophecies for 25% chance?

[flint turret]

you never but exalted prophesies if you are rank 11

yes

its much cheaper per exalted

[buoyant roost]

ill check

tbh the worst thing for me is rerolling. hate it. so Ill take both if I see good ones 😄

thanks for the tip though

[buoyant roost]

what do you know. you just want to corrupt. so it does not matter what I get 😄

[wary cedar]

you dont redemption single exalted helmet since they have so many affixes

you can say what you want to me

but thats just not a smart way

[buoyant roost]

i never said I'm smart 😄 but i'm stubborn

[wary cedar]

and now also broke

[flint turret]

maybe you also crafting somewhat inefficient, because i had like 40 t7 helmets and i made 6 like this one with triple decent stat with like 30 redemtions and couple of havocs

and i didnt even craft all of them

[ebon jungle]

nice one

[buoyant roost]

whise man once said "I was never broke, but I was without money"

[flint turret]

i know the rolls are bad but ill reroll them if i slam 3lp

and i have like 5 more like this

peak is not dropping tho

im alsmost 2 tabs of peaks with a single 3lp kekw

[buoyant roost]

maybe try tier2 😄

[flint turret]

ill just turtle the crap outta em

[wary cedar]

turtle is letting me down really hard this season

if i could i would corrupt this goddamn tutel

[buoyant roost]

me too. I think nerfed hard

[wary cedar]

but at least i can get another try with my good rolled uniques in nemesis after turtel

that's the entire game now

nemesis nemesis nemesis

you want high LP unique? nemesis

high FP item for crafting? nemesis

multi exalted? nemesis

[flint turret]

im kinda tired of farmin rune prison ngl

do omen echoes give comparable favor?

nice farmng 3lp peak

good imprint target

[wary cedar]

i m so glad i dont play peak anymore

i dont have to go out of my way farming it

[serene crane]

Its a solid peak moment, huh

[flint turret]

okay i will reroll it later if i will need to get to 180 desperatly

[wary cedar]

corrupt it

[flint turret]

im doing as budget builds as possible bro

[wary cedar]

🥀

[flint turret]

im having fun challenging uber with gear as ethical as it allows

[wary cedar]

there is no fun in ethical

[flint turret]

sadly rend cascade is so overtuned that using 1lp items and actual set items is already op

[wary cedar]

so back to marksman huh?

[serene crane]

Potato killed Uber at like lv38 with Umbrals, so...

[flint turret]

yeah im working on it

wanna do shuri bow

ill start with hs and then farm to switch to multishot rend if i will have enough patience

[wary cedar]

i m still trying to get this damn shuri affix, other than that my cold HS looks fine ig

[flint turret]

i have fury 0lp with shuri and this quiver

[wary cedar]

i m trying to get shuri affix on 2lp row and 3lp quiver

[flint turret]

will do for now

[flint turret]

dam

[sour salmon]

is 2993 HP and around 1500-200 ward gen while fighting enough for normal abby?

[flint turret]

id say twice as enough

[wary cedar]

already got a 3lp row with a good corrption, so i need something good for not being a downgrade then

👨‍🦽‍➡️

[sour salmon]

fiannly!!!!!!!

[flint turret]

id say even 1lp with shuri is a huge upgrade over this

[wary cedar]

not in my heart

i already tried what... ten 2lp row corrupts

[flint turret]

dam

[buoyant roost]

I killed him with 1000 hp no ward 😄

[wary cedar]

but i never got shuri affix on quiver ever

it has more corruptions as well, so it's harder...

🥀

[buoyant roost]

Feast your eyes. And it's with your specialty

[wary cedar]

i m trying with troakas teets atm

[flint turret]

nice

[serene crane]

Im senile af, I just killed Julra, realized I dont have anything useful for slam so I started looking for other things to slam, found some, then I forgot I didnt slam anything and started a new instance

[wet gulch]

Is there any builds using Umbral blades as the primary source of damage?

Since the change of it I don't see many nodes in the tree to really pump out dmg

[serene crane]

You use idols that deal more damage per dusk shroud, boost them with altar, spam Rend for dumb amount of dusk stacks and umbrals on the ground, then you Flow combo recall them to oneshot Uber

[flint turret]

dam seems like a waste to slam 2lp lirakas

[wet gulch]

Ah ok. Forgot to look into idols for some tech

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf8aEk0XRjE

[wet gulch]

Thank you sir.

Found the Weaver relic for rogue, ended up with t7 umbral and t7 throwing dmg, had to find a build to use it lol

[serene crane]

Thats pretty nice 😄 sadly the Rend build uses crafted Doppelganger relic which has up to 30% chance to resummon Shadow... very balanced indeed

[buoyant roost]

maybe you can do some shennenigans with actually throwing umbrals

like sync strike into umbrals

[wary cedar]

3lp into corrupt!

[flint turret]

dont have it

[wary cedar]

farm it

my corruption kinda useless

[serene crane]

Why tf is it so bright

[wary cedar]

forced darkmode

forced darkmode

makes some pictures go googoogaagaa

[serene crane]

Yea I can see that

[flint turret]

yeah okay at least crafting is going okay

[wet gulch]

That was my other concern, was a build having to use a different relic lol.

[wary cedar]

you need another 3lp liraks now

[flint turret]

im slammin 2lps

rip

[wary cedar]

[flint turret]

fml

[wary cedar]

mines too pls

[flint turret]

i wanted it ruined

[serene crane]

You can just use it in some other build, it should do some nice damage too 😄

[wet gulch]

Ya imma try to cook something up lol

[buoyant roost]

ragu you are the only one worse than me for corruptions 😄

at least olvrin is getting that hp regen

[serene crane]

Yea, I love my hp regen on Titan

[wary cedar]

this looks alright

[light tendon]

what are the best (2) lenses to use when trying to farm stuff from Echoes?

[buoyant roost]

corrupt it

[light tendon]

double rewards? canceling areans/campaign/dungeons?

[wary cedar]

-only echo quests
-no echo quests

[marble zealot]

@flint turret sry i was wrong, multishot does proc multiple times in single target

[flint turret]

i missed every res i tried to slam today. i just needed t5 eleres and t5 phys res anywhere but i missed all of it

got damage\dex\hp instead everywhere. its not bad but my res is messed up

i guess i just continue slamming 2lp crabs until i got one of them

[buoyant roost]

😐

[serene crane]

one year passed and its still amazing fight...

[buoyant roost]

at least before you could go into tentacle area to finish

now it bugs out 😄 😄 he is at 0 hp attacking

going strong dead

[topaz forge]

Hey yall, I'm trying to get a traitors tongue dagger. Am I better off slotting an lp dagger in my weaver tree or a no lp kris dagger for better odds of getting traitors tongue? I was told lp matters but the type might also matter

[buoyant roost]

you need to put traitors there

[topaz forge]

I don't have a traitors yet...

I'm trying to get one

using that to help my drops for it. Am I better off putting in no lp unique kris or 1 lp random dagger to get one?

[buoyant roost]

I dont think that works?

use rune of ascendance

[topaz forge]

I've used like 30... D:

[flint turret]

just slammed 2lp crab with phys damage +eleres + phys res..... and got phys res+healing effectivness yay

no res for me it seems

[buoyant roost]

moar moar

[inland yacht]

you goin to pluto?

[topaz forge]

I wish I had more 🙃

[buoyant roost]

farm moar farm. endless echos.

DRINKS ARE ON ME

[serene crane]

I think it barely helps... unique dagger prophecies with double reward and double use, ascendancy runes on any dagger, Reign of Dragons timeline for set/unique sword/dagger echo rewards, weaver tree node to boost chances of double echo rewards... those are probably the best chances 😄

[topaz forge]

Ok thanks. I'm not quite high enough to get the good lenses for prophecies just yet. Not even to empowered monos lol

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane 59 secs abberoth? decent?

[serene crane]

Yea looks good 😄

Have you tried how Shuriken shield would feel with the lightning? 😄

[buoyant roost]

i dont see the advantage of it tbh

[serene crane]

You can stack stupid amount of them, they stick around for a while too so its more hits

[buoyant roost]

yeah I saw that guy doing it

1st Gathering LP1 -> affixes removed
2nd Gathering LP1 -> change to a random item 😄

3rd item ruined lOL 😄

[potent rune]

Good track lol

[buoyant roost]

4th cold penetration and minion cold 😄

gg

@serene crane haha XD these guys are not having fun

[serene crane]

getting melted fast 😄 just to push corruption and make it somehow survive well 😄

[buoyant roost]

I will probably die a lot. but first I want to get the fathering fury. maybe in a month 😄

[inland yacht]

aight fine game, we ball

just going through my hoarder stash. i even got the chest

[ebon jungle]

such an unfortunately chest..

i wish i had a t7 up there

[ember surge]

not bad if your starting cor but late is trash

[ebon jungle]

been stuck on this forever

tbh the dodge rating there has saved me

[ember surge]

ive been trying to do same get gear replacements, but might need to level my cof first w/ profs to get out of my 100c. then again im only 3 days into season lol

[inland yacht]

alt text on this passive node always baits me

[ember surge]

i can see it good for a flconer that uses explosive trap to screen clear. did that s1 into 2k. i would nuke but needed massice mana regen on gear and bow att speed

[cobalt mantle]

Yeh lol, nerfed before release but they never removed the alt text

[kind adder]

Is dive bomb falconer still a thing? Saw Maxroll hasn't updated their guide since S2

[inland yacht]

i like trapper playstyles and it always gets me. it really doesn't seem like it would be that bad

also increased area for acid flask not affecting the trap detonation range is comical

[cobalt mantle]

I'm just bothered that "adaptive fuse" is spelled with an s

[kind adder]

But... that's how you spell fuse...

[inland yacht]

i always thought it was fyooze

[cobalt mantle]

Well, yeah, naturally... but it's not how you spell fuze

[wooden lava]

Are there ANY meaningful synergies with Multishot? Like how Heartseeker can also dip into Puncture.

I've tried poison flask with adding free flasks on shift, I've tried shurikens just for blade ward, I've tried incorporating bleed and poison, and now I'm just running specialized decoy because I don't know what else to put in that slot

Detonating arrow and multishot feel like the red headed step children of a red headed step child of a mastery

I'm kinda just walled at corruption 500 without 2 red rings by pumping physical damage with it as much as I can and I'm not even sure if adding 2 red rings is going to meaningfully change much

[north tree]

yeah hopefully marksman gets reworked in the future especially dark quiver

[inland yacht]

multishot used to be pretty strong alongside flurry. you'd machine gun out flurries and fire off multishots faster than you could normally

i've wanted to do a mana stack detonating arrow build for a while now. dunno how you'd solve the recovery issues

[wooden lava]

Dark Quiver feels deceptively bad. On paper, it sounds great. Until you realize you just animation locked yourself into an ability that is now also asking you to find the dumb arrows that landed only to get one skill doing more damage and a few seconds of a buff that other classes get by just naturally pressing their buttons

As far as the free arrows you get from it, it's so infrequent that I don't even bother looking for them during the graphical screen clutter that is happening while playing

[kind adder]

Yeah DQ needs a major rework, it does not feel worth to take in almost any normal build. Has some use in bossing builds but for mapping it feels terrible

I've always wanted to make det arrow work and it just doesn't outside of meme boss one-shot builds

So sad

You could maybe make something decent with cold conversion and mourningfrost but then like, you're just playing HS but worse

[digital path]

working

[serene crane]

The only somewhat alright thing Ive tried so far was Heartseeker with the node that spawns dark arrows between you and the enemy... sadly still need to run for it, but it feels like much less of pac-man simulator... it still kinda sucks, but not that much 😄 and only If you can spare like 1 point in that part of Hs tree

[flint turret]

Shuriken on bow crit corruptions

[boreal bay]

anyone know what happens when you get 100%+ to not consume silver shroud?

[buoyant roost]

can you even reach it

[flint turret]

actually.... it seems possible

4 huge idols with max rolled t7 is 40% doubled by discord

and weaver efficiency affix t7 maxed is 50% out of 40% which is exactly 100 in total

now im kinda curious too, does it mean hit immunity or what

but getting 4 maxrolled t7 and t7 maxrolled weaver altar bro

and it will only work with a single altar type - ocular

[buoyant roost]

you cannot reroll already corrupted items right?

[flint turret]

yeah you cant

[buoyant roost]

Sadge

[flint turret]

omen idols cant have enchants anyway

so its all about getting t7 on those 4

and a miracle of finding maxrolled t7 weaver ocular idol

well, i mean getting 95% to not consume is already huge

[buoyant roost]

yeah. that's what I'm thinking

but we assume its additive

[flint turret]

yeah it can easily be separate calculations

which is as likely

i would appreciate if someone tests in a single player i dont have an editor set up

[buoyant roost]

I never run the game offline 😄

[flint turret]

hit immulity sounds kinda fun ngl

and totally unintended

oh wait

discord wont work im dumb

i thought about using omen idols for some reason

reliquary nest is 60% tho

84% max it seems

[eager mason]

yeah

[flint turret]

well its basically just capped dodge then

[eager mason]

funny enough it isnt capped like the potion enchant

[flint turret]

if its additive

[eager mason]

but you cant get more than 84

[flint turret]

we cant corrupt regular idols into omen idols right?

tunklab wont load

[flint turret]

reroll subtype hmmm

[eager mason]

it can change a weaver idol to a normal one but not omen I think

[flint turret]

yeah that im aware of

i had to use it on my idol setup

[eager mason]

when I first tested I thought this was increased

[flint turret]

oh wait

wait wait

[eager mason]

nah it doesnt work ragu

I tested it like this before

[flint turret]

it doesnt work like that?

together i mean

so how does it work then

[eager mason]

I think the corrupted affix doesnt work at all

or it means something different I dont get it

without altar

with altar

[flint turret]

wtf

looks liek a bug ngl

[eager mason]

yeah idk

it doesnt say increased either

but it doesnt reduce if it means that

[buoyant roost]

wait. but thats only for weaver enchancment

[eager mason]

so idk wtf its supposed to do

[flint turret]

so neither of them work for weaver affixes?

[buoyant roost]

maybe hmm maybe you need a normal idol

[eager mason]

ok I can test

[flint turret]

weirdge

[eager mason]

nvm I dont need to test

because the normal weaver enchant affix works

[flint turret]

so only the corrupted one does not?

[eager mason]

I am on offline so

maybe test it online

[flint turret]

there wont be a difference

[eager mason]

might some bugs are different in offline

like my offline dive bomb and falcon strike still doesnt give flow stacks

but my online ones do

[flint turret]

interesting

did they fix birds not real btw?

[eager mason]

probably not

[flint turret]

dam

[eager mason]

I tested it at league start and was still the same I think

[flint turret]

horrible terrible

only today ill get to trying bow shuriken, sadly not multishot like i wanted but rather hs because its easier to set up

need to slam just brew and razors

[eager mason]

I tried it with multishot before

mana was annoying

even with smokebomb

[flint turret]

i had a planner for multiushot rend 0 manacost rend

with mountain boots

and sapping strikes

should be fine

[eager mason]

standing still tho

[flint turret]

yeah but at least range is great

[buoyant roost]

Ragu, I decided to also take t6 attack speed to slam on gathering 😄 who cares. I mean even T5 should be okay lul 😄

[flint turret]

i had another obe with ravager helm and mana on recurve and sapping strikes hs

[eager mason]

I didnt test the build much but I think it works with this

when you convert rend to lightning

[flint turret]

probably can be enough to spam rend while occasionalyy throwing out hs

[flint turret]

it doesnt

only for manual casts

i tested it

[eager mason]

hmm ok

it doesnt say direct so I assumed it was working

[flint turret]

i thought maybe its just for the first trigger

[eager mason]

would test the build more but it felt like just a worse version of other rends so gave up

[flint turret]

but i tried with chakram it didnt work even on the first

[eager mason]

and the corruptions are annoying as you know :xdd:

[flint turret]

zhp shuri hs was sick woth decent gear tho, have you seen it?

[eager mason]

yeah

I have seen two versions

[flint turret]

i wanna multishot tho

[eager mason]

if they ever add the affix to somewhere else it would be worth the hustle

[flint turret]

yeah getting it on weps is pure pain

and a crime agains humanity

[buoyant roost]

if I take this node
And then I use Maelin's Hubris. Will all shred -> poison -> ignite?

[flint turret]

it didnt work previously but devs said they are gonna fix it at some point before s4

currently i dunno

[eager mason]

yeah it doesnt work online either

what is the report button again?

[flint turret]

esc-report a bug

[serene crane]

Maehlin only converts bleed chance and double conversion shouldnt be a think afaik?

maybe Im confusing it with Grim Dawn... 😄

[flint turret]

oh wait yeah sorry i was thinking about carrion

armor shred didnt convert to bleed through poison

[serene crane]

Carrion, in theory, should do some crazy numbers with Heartseeker and Shuri shield tho

damage might quite suck 😄

Does Disembowel have to be direct use or could every 3rd shuriken proc also work with it? 🤔

[buoyant roost]

vyea its bleed only 🙁 dammit. I was going into heartseeker wildfire build rabbit hole

[amber solstice]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qqwvbw0R

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (66) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (3)

General:

▸ Health: 3,140, Regen: 26.2/s
▸ Mana: 201.51, Regen: 19.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 92%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 53 Str / 79 Dex / 46 Int / 51 Att / 46 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 66% / 60% / 94% / 89% / 131% / 111%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 628
▸ Dodge Chance: 24% (799)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,596)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Dancing Strikes / Shurikens

[amber solstice]

What stats are best for Exulis in a build like this?

[serene crane]

Guile and Brutality I guess?

[wary cedar]

guile my balls

[serene crane]

I bet 20 Havoc runes you wont corrupt them

[serene crane]

meme af, could surely get better gear here its just some rough idea, probably super squishy as hell, but the amount of bleeds should be veeery high 😄
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrXE8mrO

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (28) / Marksman (52) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 1,930, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 184.12, Regen: 8.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 25 Dex / 12 Int / 6 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 86% / 77% / 50% / 65% / 77% / 56% / 61%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 386
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (745)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (672)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 3%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Puncture / Bladestorm

[buoyant roost]

Yeah this would be it for bleed, with probably minor adjustments. Of course to get the bow + quiver is rough. I just wonder how poweorful Primordial Blood is. Does not sound like much. 20 stacks?

[serene crane]

0LP with like t5+ corruption should be good enough... higher tiers and slammed bow should be just fine with lower tier corruption or different gear 😄 Primordial Blood probably not much, a bit of extra AoE combined with Puncture procs, but a lot of stuff gets converted to bleed tho

like 3 non-End of Dragon blessings actually converted to bleed chance 😄

You could also use Stymied boots If you dont have Exile boots; %DoT and %doom chance converted to bleed / Ashwake / Stormtide / Snowdrift / Pillager's Gold relic / Tome of Elements for doubled conversion / Vipertail belt / Forgotten Knight amulet... not the best but things can get converted there 😄

[buoyant roost]

so you can actually leave prison complex unfinished and finish prophecies there that requrie mage kill

yay

[buoyant roost]

time for you to put in the work 😄 😄

[serene crane]

Leveling another marksman sounds painful enough... Ive tried bunch of stuff to make it not so boring and the best felt Flurry... 😄

[buoyant roost]

flurry was my best as well s2 or s3 dont remember. wit primal bow

lul

drop from omen 😄

[serene crane]

Damn, actually useful unique? 😄

[buoyant roost]

for sentinels 😄

[serene crane]

That Hydra primo bow looks interesting, but kinda all over the place... 😄

[serene crane]

Can play it with health based Lethal Mirage with BBC 😄

[buoyant roost]

I mean they tried kinda to match with this whole shit part of the tree 😄

[serene crane]

while they also decided to give it poison for the Hydra flavour stuff... If shurikencs counted as a bow attack too, that might be sick... without shuriken crits triggering more shurikens, even tho it would look cool 😄

[flint turret]

i have everything ready to swap to mm but im afraid i wont be able to do omen windows echoes and stuff

and i wont have gold to go back

and gold is best farmed from ubers

[buoyant roost]

swap from what @flint turret

[flint turret]

from rend fire cascade

[buoyant roost]

I have that build. and its okay no? I just fdail to kill uber 🙁 but thats because i suck with its mechanic.

[flint turret]

so far gear looks like this, i dunno if i should slam hybrid or movespeed on boots https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6PV8VEp

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (79) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,316, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 246.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 40 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 37 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 76% / 78% / 76% / 80% / 72% / 105%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 931
▸ Dodge Chance: 28% (976)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,811)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shift / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Explosive Trap

[flint turret]

i can use omen idol for hp instead

or maybe both

[flint turret]

is omen veil easy for you ?

[buoyant roost]

for the rend cascade build?

[flint turret]

for hs shuri

[buoyant roost]

well im only at around 250 cc now and its easy

everything just dies instantly

i have 1k hp btw 😄 and im not getting touched once

[flint turret]

like how, they spawn all over the place

[buoyant roost]

the puncture stuff. it just kills them

[flint turret]

hmm

[buoyant roost]

ill show you in a moment

[flint turret]

cant really say 250 is my desired threshold

but at least you say its good mechanically

[buoyant roost]

yeah but you are probably more tanky

you have double my hp

or will have

[marble zealot]

got a 27sec uabby on multishot shuriken

[flint turret]

rend multishot or selfcast?

[marble zealot]

selfcast

[flint turret]

i would expect rend multishot to be significantly faster

[marble zealot]

i couldnt really get a faster kill on rend, it's such an rngfest

it doesnt work half as good on multishot than cascade

[flint turret]

sadge

[marble zealot]

its just clunky

aim all over the place and a bit wrong place and suddenly you deal 5% dps

[flint turret]

what was the biggest issue?

hmm

did you have those 2 in rend?

[marble zealot]

ye tried with both of those and with and without tabi

[flint turret]

how did you sustain mana with tabi

it drains like crazy

[marble zealot]

tabi shadows just shoot opposite direction you aim at anyway idk

i dont see myself playing it unless they make shadows autoaim at enemies or something

t7 mana on belt in smoke bomb was enough mana to get burst off

[flint turret]

so you like hs shuri better?

[marble zealot]

selfcast multishot is better for everything except orobyss

imo

[flint turret]

interesting

[marble zealot]

better clear, much better single target

[flint turret]

do you have a planner for multi i wanna see gear

[marble zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/jessrabbit/character/JessZHP

dont have all pieces swapped from HS yet

[flint turret]

damage number vise my planner is not that much worse

missing tons of skill levels tho

you idols bro wtf

how long did you farm them

i dont have even 1 like that

[marble zealot]

its MG

[flint turret]

oh well, i guess ill try to get drelkors corrupted while i play hs with fury... didnt have luck with it so far

[marble zealot]

but yeah not like you need all the damage anyway

lower levels are fine and whatnot

[flint turret]

yeah i was expecting my gear to be much worse overall in numbers

but im missing like 30 flat 50 multi and 200-ish inc

while not being zhp

[flint turret]

did you try bladestorm instead of decoy?

and dark quiver instead of shift and trav smoke

dark quiver tho is probably not needed for multi, its better on hs

maybe bladestorm and traps?

nah too much mana i guess

oh, how abiut ravager helm+hs+bladestorm instead of shift and decoy

[wooden lava]

That... Would actually be really good if it weren't for the fact that I don't trust corruption as far as I can throw it

[buoyant roost]

@flint turret

[serene crane]

Do Omen's Veil 😄

[flint turret]

same, thats why im corruptin 0lps

[flint turret]

yeah its not omen veil and not even omen champion echo )

maybe chakram would clear better

i guess ill try

or rather maybe i should farm them and observer first to get 2m gold at least to be able to swap back if something goes sour

[wooden lava]

Maybe I do 100 corruption veils and stock up on prophecies today 🤔 might be worth it if the corruption pool is small enough

[buoyant roost]

wait whats an omen veil. the one with 2 ?

[wary cedar]

uwu?

[wooden lava]

I'm sort of stuck with my idols right now because I have all my multishot arrow rolls maxed with good enchants and if I brick those, I'll be really sad

Should really just invest into finding red rings, too. But that feels like a last step sort of thing

[wary cedar]

i only spend favor for rr

never did anything else

[buoyant roost]

its the one with 2 at the end of the chain?

[serene crane]

Its the woven echo you buy from that snake-bae in the middle at the End of Time

[buoyant roost]

oh with the boss

i haven't even tried that one yet at all 😄

okay will do

[wary cedar]

i m feeling so quirky rn

🤪

[serene crane]

It keeps on spamming huge wave of mobs... ideally you want to activate one window and before its finished activate the remaining two, so it counts for the drop of Observer woven echo... idk, for some builds Omen's Veil seems hardcore af

[maiden gyro]

starting to think my lootfilter is broke..

[flint turret]

Yeah that's why I'm hesitant on swapping to hs shuri rn. I almost ran out of corr runes and if I will struggle it's gonna be bad. Rend cascade clears those so easily if you don't disable rend movement

Constant moving with up to 10k ward... Yeah it's overturned af but losing power feels bad regardless

[serene crane]

Even if you disable Rend movement, you can tank like 99.99% of the stuff anyway

[maiden gyro]

hhmm idk how to make my own loot filter but i guess im gonna have to try, because it sure is broke

i bet this is why i havent seen any t7 ms boots lol

[wooden lava]

I'm starting to consider full uptime smoke bomb and silver shroud efficiency to just get through harder content since my damage is definitely more than fine at this point

Really struggling on survivability, mostly one shots because I have had horrible slam luck on health

[flint turret]

650 corr

[serene crane]

Can try something like this, should be simple enough 😄
#🔪┃rogue message

[serene crane]

Idk, from the 25-30 runs in a row Ive done I died like once, entire screen kinda just burned from the cascades 😄

[maiden gyro]

i really just wanted it to show anything t7...

and remove rare and lower items

[wary cedar]

uwu

[wary cedar]

bad slam, and then only T1

game is mocking me

[serene crane]

Corruptions like this shouldnt even be legal at such low tiers...

[maiden gyro]

maybe it wasnt the filter lol

i just want a t7 ms man ;-;

[wary cedar]

just craft it

[maiden gyro]

what makes you think i have the runes to roll it?

[wary cedar]

what you doing to your runes?

[serene crane]

Shouldnt really be that hard to drop on its own... worst case any boots with movement speed affix and any t7 and just Havoc the t7 there, which honestly just sounds like waste 😄

[wary cedar]

even redemption on boots is easy
they dont have many prefixes

[maiden gyro]

i am level 93 and havent seena s ingle t7 ms

[wary cedar]

dont be lvl 93 then?!

[serene crane]

Corrupt the runes, corrupt lvls, corrupt the corruption, corrupt your win32

[grave gale]

So i have 4 3lp and 1 4lp traitor tongues but im farming at 900c and cant find daggers to slam into them. Ideas?

[wary cedar]

lower your standards

already slammed three 2lp row today 😔

[flint turret]

glad i went phys kekw

at least omen veils give tons of favor

i guess thats my new favorite farm spot

[wary cedar]

Flavor?

4th bow today, got the wrong one

[grave gale]

Yeah, i guess i can just start doing the 3lps with 7/5/5 and hope for good corruption

[vocal quarry]

Am I missing something, multishot and hail of arrows won’t consume the 5th flow stack, but can build the stacks?

[serene crane]

Only non-channeled skills should be able to consume Flow

[vocal quarry]

Neither of them are setup to channel though

I know hail can be, but I don’t have that. The multishot though?

[flint turret]

its a bd passive bro

[vocal quarry]

OH Jesus so I was missing it lol

Yep, definitely trash then for me. I was hoping to snapshot multishot like cascade could be (or used to be) for rend

[wooden lava]

idk how people are finding 3lp unless the chances for 3lp is like 1:100 or less

I've farmed like 200 Nightbringers and have yet to get a 3lp hit

[odd vapor]

with cold converted flask is Knowledge of Immunity require uncapped Cold Res or Poison still?

[inland yacht]

cold res. all the poison stuff converts if you have cold flask

[odd vapor]

sweet thanks

[inland yacht]

looking at it again it doesn't specify the resist changes lol. but it does convert

[odd vapor]

i guess when i get to the dummy i could test it

or maybe not, not sure how dummy resists work, lol

[earnest tusk]

All enemies and the training dummies have zero resistances, unless a monster mod or echo mod gave them some. But you should still be able to see the damage increase from putting them into negative resistance

[odd vapor]

cool, ill try that

[wary cedar]

-24

[serene crane]

phew, almost -25, THAT would've been bad

[whole jay]

I started with a rogue and I wanted to go for a heartseeker build. Do you usually go for DoT Stacking like frostbite, crit damage or what?

[wary cedar]

Dex stacking with mourning boots

[flint turret]

glad i didnt go mourningfrost shuriken kekw

[half oxide]

How do you get items to show tiers without putting them in the forge

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost Puncture-Mirage shadow daggers? 🤔 Im watching some Max Pita builds and he has some really interesting Shadow Rend build with this and also cold Orb Weaver's Fang for cold Bladestorm-detonate, both look quite cool 😄

[wary cedar]

i corrupted so many uniques today

got nothing

😭

close to one month in and no shuri affix

[boreal bay]

if you use legends entwined to complete the corsair set with the helm (converting glancing blow to block) will Clotho's needle convert that block to parry? can you get parry capped this way?

[serene crane]

Yes

[boreal bay]

sweet, since the weaver enchantment boost is bugged on idols, maybe max parry + 90%+ not to consume silver shroud is good enough for hit immortality

nvm, you can't do both, legends entwined blocks you from reliquary nest, so you'd be stuck at like 60% not to consume silver shroud

bleh

[serene crane]

Still sounds quite decent

[boreal bay]

yeah, but if the 60% weaver affix thing worked, you'd be at 84% chance not to consume silver shroud + parry cap... somehow that just seems inifinitely better

course if the 60% weaver affix thing worked I think you can get over 100% not to consume with reliquary nest and then just not use parry at all

[serene crane]

That 84% is with Reliq Nest or just the %weaver altar bonus?

[boreal bay]

there's a 50% t7 weaver altar bonus, then there's another 60% weaver altar bonus that seems to be bugged

so the 84 is assuming additive 50% + 60% weaver altar bonuses on the base 10% chance for 4 idols in a oracle altar

[serene crane]

It sounds stupidly good 😄 I guess I'll try some build with it, just not quite sure what... I'd like to dodge another Rend build If possible

[boreal bay]

I'm not confident how reliquary nest works with everything, but even without the bugged affix, you should be able to get base 60% not to consume silver shroud from 4 idols and then have reliquary nest boost that by 60%

so.. 96% not to consume silver shroud? should be effective hit immortality on anything dodgeable

[serene crane]

With other defenses should pretty much survive like anything maybe except Uber's wave, idk about other stuff

[boreal bay]

whatever the build is you'd just be scooting around with smoke bomb on cooldown

maybe gives self cast acid flask a chance to work

[serene crane]

Just rolling for those enchants sounds about as painful as going for the shuriken corruption on slammed bow... if not worse? 😄

[boreal bay]

:/

eh, the enchant part sounds easier to me because you can just reroll it when it doesnt work... it's not like you have to find a particular affix combo on a base idol

it costs what, 500 amber to reenchant?

[serene crane]

True, just matter of time pretty much... the price doesnt matter, you can infinitely farm Lostwood folly for ambers, buy more, farm more Follys, get Needles in the process too

Cenopath echo for 4 enchant tries

[wary cedar]

i m angry now

[serene crane]

Corruption not corrupting?

[wary cedar]

not at all

not one shuri affix

and i m out of exalted and barely have runes left

[serene crane]

Yeah, they really need to make all those things better... now watch some dev checking the 38s Shuriken shield Uber kill, thinking "phew, this is too op" and nerfs everything around it

[wary cedar]

yea just make the affix rarer

[serene crane]

add more minion focused corruptions

[wary cedar]

give me a unique that makes my bow attack minion dmg

then i m fine with that

[serene crane]

I think MM should get a Bee-Bow, shooting bees and if you have any bees summoned, you use them to drastically boost your damage for the next bow attack

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-charlie-sheen-bow-shot-gif-7691051

kinda like this but with bees

[wary cedar]

thats just terraria

[serene crane]

Doesnt matter... could be aswell a weaver's will bow

boosted by Abandonded weaver set, ezpz

[serene crane]

oof

[amber solstice]

This is my 7th try.

[wary cedar]

corrupt it

[outer comet]

I know that feeling on Li'rakas. I feel for ya.

[amber solstice]

I'll leave it for Gauntled of Strife

[molten raft]

I came back after a few cycles and am running the shadow rend build, currently early in corruption. Is there any guide on how to craft the armour pieces? With the set shards

[wary cedar]

have you tried youtube?

[amber solstice]

It's the same with traitor's tongue

[molten raft]

Tried but really only getting build guides, not anything specific to crafting.

[wary cedar]

well what informations are you missing?

do you know how set crafting works?

[molten raft]

I do, it is mostly just trying to find the base to craft it on. I am currently filtering any T7 armour with 1 open prefix then plan to seal the set shard and havoc for T7 ward?

[serene crane]

• You either corrupt the set item and get lucky; or you can shatter the corrupted item into shards (unless it either gets Ruined or remains the same set item just "corrupted"); you can also shatter set pieces in The Great Bridge Woven echo (can shatter "Ruined" set pieces there too)
• then you (ideally) find the item with t7 of what you need and an empty prefix/suffix slot => put the set prefix shard there (depends on the set but some set shards are prefix/suffix) => seal it with Despair glyph (sealing t1 is enough, but some tiers are better at like t3, but thats getting more lucky) => it still remains functional set item and you can craft it further
• otherwise you either need to seal t1-4 (t1 is easy free) to make room for the set affix; or gamble with Removal rune
• either way you can still get unlucky with Forging Potencial
• worse case you need to bamboozle around with Havoc runes and it tends to eat FP a lot, getting unlucky with shuffling and it can get ruined easily
• while upgrading whatever affix you want to keep and the item is basically good as is, you can use Envy glyphs to change the base item => Refinement rune to try for higher rolls of the tiers
• you can also use Evolution rune to make the t7 set affix into selaed t8 Primordial item
  -once you're done and 1FP left, Creation rune it => corrupt gamble

[serene crane]

pretty much

[serene crane]

Now, how the heck do I want to play another bladedancer with Clotho/Weaver's Orb...

[buoyant roost]

hmm. this is a freaking good weapon. maybe even flurry can be good with this. I beleive with weaver set you will have huge damage output with adrenaline

[serene crane]

I guess its worth trying out... it just has some horrible scaling... 😄

Sadly all my Orbs/Needles seem to be kinda questionable... 😄

[buoyant roost]

and that needle you posted screenshot of?

[serene crane]

I forgot about that one

[maiden gyro]

I'm about to use cof exalt boot stuff and that's just a waste lol.

[serene crane]

Just get the rare prophecies instead

[maiden gyro]

I also got a xithars to solve my potions screwing my whole build.

Now I need a t7 throwing neck that isn't corrupted lol.

I need to get above 100 corruption before I really care too much, only other bladestorm build I've seen is pure physical.

[serene crane]

Getting over 100corr shouldnt take too long 😄

[buoyant roost]

I mean thats the best one 😄

[serene crane]

I just cant decide If to try something with Orb Weaver or with the Needle... like that Needle just looks like some shadow daggers stuff probably 😄

[buoyant roost]

I mean yeah. but SD gets boring 🙁

too bad dancing cant go 2h

[serene crane]

Yea thats annoying me the most 😄 some Sync strike could do

Idk how Net would do as a main skill

[maiden gyro]

It's effort..

[buoyant roost]

but Net is throwing

[serene crane]

Well with some different Orb/Needle ofc 😄 all you need is t7 throw on ring and BD node to make Net 0 mana

[wary cedar]

i farmed 6hrs today

got nothing

[serene crane]

Did you like it?

[wary cedar]

😡

[buoyant roost]

you wasted 6h without corrupting 🙁 sadge

[wary cedar]

BRO

i corrupted like 8 2lp row today

and 6 3lp quivers

😭

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ohthemisery/character/miiisery

[buoyant roost]

need more grind

[wary cedar]

idk how to continue 😔

[buoyant roost]

go wash your face with cold water, brew a strong black, and give it another 6 hours

btw would this be acceptable ww

[wary cedar]

it gives no dmg

reroll

[buoyant roost]

@flint turret chmpions killed 😛

[wary cedar]

where lootfilter?

[flint turret]

since im preparing gear to swap for phys bow shuri, i decided to make use of it while im still bd and swapped to rend phys throw cascade.... and i must say i like it more than melee fire because of better clear due to range advantage, cant say it was unexpected tho

[buoyant roost]

corrupted

[wary cedar]

🥀

[flint turret]

shred is sadly useless on hs

[flint turret]

now go do omen veil and observer

[buoyant roost]

yeah. but I get decent enough shred

[flint turret]

you get enough shred from hs alone

it has 100% innate shred in nodes

[serene crane]

One of the big things that annoying me about Heartseeker is you dont unlock it at lower lvl

[flint turret]

true

[buoyant roost]

you mean so you can use it with BD or Falc

[flint turret]

no meaning it would be nice to level as a bow build instead of throw for a change

and there are just no good bow abilities to level with before hs

puncture is eitehr bleed or sd

[serene crane]

It would be nice, but you get Hs at like lv45 or something... idk, could be sooner 😄

BUT, leveling with Flurry and the shuri corruption was good enough

[flint turret]

yeah would be nice if they swapped hs for da

[flint turret]

sounds like a great league starter kekw

[serene crane]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-9378898688473864151

some id!ot here said its quite easy to get the corruption... wait, that was me

[flint turret]

well you are not wrong, its easy to get it on a random bow

they drop often from omens as is

quiver is harder tho

[wary cedar]

i get to few!!!!!!!!!

[buoyant roost]

ye. would introduce some fun stuff to theorize

[buoyant roost]

yeah man. so far IM like 30 bows deep. Not even T1 😄

[serene crane]

I still find it pretty lame to put something like this as a random corruption... it would feel much better as either unique/set as you said before or one of the upcomming skill augments or whatever its suppose to be.... or something like that with better control

[wary cedar]

next season/build i will not do any build which hunts for a specific corruption x)

[flint turret]

Yeah this is probably the first and only(?) build that is being gatekept behind giga gamba that much

While being super accessible for mg probably

0lp corrupted bow can be bought on like what, mg 4-5?

[serene crane]

Theres also only like 3 corruptions that do thing like this... shuriken on bow crit; icicle on bow hit; forge weapon on something with 2H weapons... surely it cant be that hard to think of more corruptions like this

[wary cedar]

Forge Weapon kinda sucks tho (i guess?) because they have a cap

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane
To add to your Needle 😄

[flint turret]

Icicle is really whatever

[serene crane]

You have no idea how many t7 SD pen helmets I have around...

[buoyant roost]

this one is double T7 though! that fire resistance goes strong

[serene crane]

Removal the t4 mana into Doppel and Havoc into t7 would be big 😄

[flint turret]

I ended up with no primo on my phys throw cascade btw

I'd want to get a dagger probably but I won't stick to build too long to get it. Mm shuri awaits

[serene crane]

Yea If its temporary then theres no really point looking for some primo... but clearing that Rift Beast echo with like 7 of them is pretty nice 😄

[wary cedar]

i m just trying uber now

i have no runes for crafting anymore

[flint turret]

Also I hate using razors rn I'd rather have charion

Because when I swap razors for tabi for bosses I lose points all over the place

So I dont even swap anymore

[serene crane]

I was hating that while swapping around set pieces with Entwined so much...

[flint turret]

I was usually running around with 2 free points in rend, and for bosses I was getting 2 points of ranged targeting + swapping tabi and it worked great

Then just remove points and tabi for skin

Now it doesn't make sense to swap out of razor and I don't have anything to replace razor with

If I had charion I could have easily swapped for tabi but no way I'm farning arena on a temp build

[buoyant roost]

LOL

[serene crane]

Daaaaaamn

[flint turret]

Overall I'm kinda impressed by throw DPS. It's better than melee if comparing no-tabi variants

[serene crane]

Could also seal like t1/t2 of something... but my crazy luck is when I want to seal t2, it jumps to t4

[flint turret]

Another discovery was that close to top roll Uber relic t7 throw is much worse than doppel non reforged

[serene crane]

Yea throw has some wild scaling... maybe it also helps how many shurikes you can trigger with Hs... 😄

[buoyant roost]

I know the feeling 😄

[flint turret]

I wonder how much of my damage is umbral recalls by shift tho

What's the split between cascade and umbral I mean

[serene crane]

Maybe one day we'll get some actual dps meter ingame...

[flint turret]

My generic phys % is super low. Most of my damage is shadow damage and damage per shadow

If umbrals do a decent amount I'd consider getting 1 idol for dusk shrouds umbral damage since I'm rolling with like 60 dusk anyway

[serene crane]

Yea probably cant go wrong with that at all... the most Ive seen on me was like 100-110

[flint turret]

I don't even know how aiming for shift recall works even

Do I need to start shifting near the enemy or the enemy needs to be at the ending point of shift or it doesn't matter at all

No idea what's the aiming range too

[serene crane]

No idea either for that, but for Uber the umbrals are mostly close to him anyway... but whenever umbrals are recalled to you, they are flying across the map which looks a bit funny

[wary cedar]

ok i can't beat uber

[serene crane]

alright, this is cracked af for lvling...

[serene crane]

No, you can because I believe

[wary cedar]

to much random sht flying around 😭

[flint turret]

I don't feel like Uber is gonna be as easy now as on melee tbh

I lost quite a bit of hp and reduction

[serene crane]

Dont you just free aim Hs and side step from balls? 😄

[flint turret]

He is negative phys res I bet he's getting one tapped by auto attack

[wary cedar]

no?

[serene crane]

True 😄

[wary cedar]

i m sitting in his face lmao

[flint turret]

So what's the problem then

[wary cedar]

random sht flying around

one shotting me

[serene crane]

Whatever Uberroth does in his free time is none of my business....

[flint turret]

Like... What?

[wary cedar]

i can't even tell, at some point its just getting so much

[serene crane]

The big balls shouldnt really oneshot you and should be able to overheal the DoT pool? 🤔

[buoyant roost]

I mean anything from uber pretty much one shots

[flint turret]

Red and blue balls and spinning blade can... That's a sight not enough ehp, but they also can be avoided

[buoyant roost]

even that small ball from ice black hole one shots me XD

5000 dmg

[flint turret]

It shouldn't one-shot If defences are alright

It can be tanked with 3k hp more or less easily

It hits basically the same as his regular auto attack

[wary cedar]

is there any quick item change ican do to be way tankier?

[flint turret]

Ravs/vise/null

Blossom

Getting all 3 makes you giga tank

[wary cedar]

my dmg will be peepee then ig

[flint turret]

If you are dead it's non existent anyway

Going all in on damage might be the play too

Bladeshield bow shuri 30s Uber as we have seen

[wary cedar]

best i could do was 36%

[flint turret]

I can give you a video for reference if you want to

[wary cedar]

about what?

[wary cedar]

i dont think i want a 10min fight lol 😭

[flint turret]

I didn't want either kekw

[wary cedar]

i mean i have shuri with bladearmor

so i can get good dps i think

[flint turret]

The point is you can go either way, either more damage or more defense

Hs sustain allows it

[tired hinge]

Heya, which is better for shadow rend phys build?

[flint turret]

I'd say lirakas

[serene crane]

Yea, sadly those Mirage gloves are bad... 😄

[tired hinge]

Yeah havent had much expriecne with how much more +1 shadow does, thanks

[serene crane]

Its solid damage and good for mana, but max rolled Lirakas is just big damage too 😄

[tired hinge]

I have no mana issues, so its a no brainer i guess.

[flint turret]

I have a feeling that maxrolled as falcon 2lp with t5 throw and t7 as would be bis

57 as gloves

[buoyant roost]

f this ommen veil shit wtf

my pc cant handle it

[serene crane]

Could be, stacked attack speed is just crazy

I need to find someone who can do offline with max attacks peed rolls and Frenzy effect everywhere possible... planner gave me like 493% attack speed 😄

[flint turret]

That's why I was asking about omen veil for hs shuri...

[pearl forge]

oh nice to see that channel i forgot it existed

[buoyant roost]

this forces you to move predictably. this is a death sentence 😄

[pearl forge]

you can kinda bait almost everything on uber abby tho

except his jump back

that one is annoying

[buoyant roost]

this is for omen veils 😄

[pearl forge]

man i hate omens

i have to run around all the time

and so many things can do so much dmg

[serene crane]

Idk, Omen's Veil is cool idea but its just idiotic design... and then locking Observer behind opening all 3 windows...

[buoyant roost]

so what do you get if you kill all at the same time?

the pinaccle boss?

[serene crane]

Yea, Observer, its like between normal Aberroth and Uber one

difficulty-wise I couldnt even compare it with Uber tho... mechanics here and there, some flying stuff... but nothing difficult 😄 except him being a bit teleporty

[buoyant roost]

I mean.... you would have to stay somewhere in the middle and just do stuff and kill

it does not work on characters that need movement 😄

[serene crane]

You open one, then either before Omens get vulnerable or just before you get to kill them, you open the remaining two => keep clearing mobs from the two new windows and kill Omens from 1st window during that... you dont have to open all 3 windows fromt the start

[topaz forge]

So I royall screwed up. Please someone help me

I miss clicked when getting the astral chestpiece for bladedancer. boguht it and set it back down in the purchase window and it took all my mats but didn't give me the chestpice.l How do I fix this?

nvm I just buyback

[flint turret]

couldnt do it?

[serene crane]

Glad we could help 😄

[buoyant roost]

I kinda failed killing all 3 1 by 1

[flint turret]

dam i guess ill farm them some while im on throwing cascade

[buoyant roost]

didnt know it will finish it

[flint turret]

just tp out

and retry

or die

[serene crane]

You can die there, even If you try again the Observer echo drops

[buoyant roost]

ye.

I think I need that ring

of the third eye

[serene crane]

Not enough crit? 😄

[buoyant roost]

no some ward gen Xd but 4 times a second not much

BOYZ

LUL

[serene crane]

Yea thats giga low 😄 Ashes of Mortality gives a lot, but idk if you have any ignite there? 😄

[buoyant roost]

I mean not ideal but itll work 😄

[buoyant roost]

I dont know how that guy who posted the build generates ward

[serene crane]

eh, what video was it

[buoyant roost]

the one with 4k corruption with shuriken

[serene crane]

Could be cold/fire converted Hs and elemental arrow that gives like 45 ward when you spend it

[buoyant roost]

https://streamable.com/1rpz4v

[serene crane]

Might be with specced Umbrals, Shift recall, ward on Shift on idols

[buoyant roost]

i jsut noticed he uses potions

[serene crane]

oh right, Xithara converts pots to ward

[buoyant roost]

you know the sad part...

my dps is lower then with my exalted bow

[serene crane]

If its tooltip I wouldnt worry much about that

[buoyant roost]

no... just killing T4 julra

with my Exalted bow I burst her before she fires the thing

can't do it with Fury

Makes no sense how. very weird

[serene crane]

Maybe depends with the Fury procs 😄

[buoyant roost]

I have also more heartseeker dmg, with higher flat + more lightning

definitely more attack speed. shock I have enough on ring to reach 10 stacks ez

im thinking whether losing that 4% bow critical plays a role hmm

[serene crane]

You should be at like 80%, should be fine 😄

[buoyant roost]

so hmm 73 and 84 sounds like a lot

73 fury 84 exalted. ill get some more crit increase I guess

[serene crane]

you get 20% from crit vulnerability

[buoyant roost]

yeah and stacking the barrage of pain gives 15% as well

okay build done. bored now XD

[serene crane]

Time to get some big upgrades 😄

[potent rune]

Eh you dont wanna grind those t7 affixes

[buoyant roost]

I'm gonna try uber, but I stand no chance

[inland yacht]

i need to figure out recovery on this flask build. my bird keeps eating all my potions so i don't have those to fall back on lol

[amber solstice]

it's like a second job

[maiden gyro]

Is there a better way to farm havok and.. I forgot the rune on the left?

[amber solstice]

uber is the best way

if you can farm it of course

hell y

[amber solstice]

redemption

[potent rune]

Nope uber is best by a long shot at least you can skip like a lot of downtown time this season with umbrals one shot,cause grinding uber is worse than a second job the more you do 🤣

[outer comet]

Woot!

[amber solstice]

wow , nice

[outer comet]

Let's just say it's been imprinted on the weaver tree. lol

[inland yacht]

you feel like sharing?

[amber solstice]

if I could

[eternal plover]

can anyone help to tp me to act town and boss in normal mode, not seasonal?

[crimson latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYleeOocK3o

@flint turret

[maiden gyro]

Lovely..

Not even close to 500c lol.

I could probably move up in corruption faster than I am but................... I'm currently limited by my poor exalts lol.

Don't even have +levels of blade storm

[pure hound]

Im a bit out of the loop can someone explain to me what changes were made to rogue in regard to defenses, like iirc rogues main downside to pushing high C was due to like dodge not being enough right?

[topaz forge]

For LL bladestorm bladedancer do I want the armor or endurance blessings?

[desert bridge]

Armor

[wooden lava]

I think I've just about hit the limit of Multishot this season. I know not much really changed, but it was my first personal season with it.

Nightbringer is solidly mid. And getting 2 Red Rings plus stacking stats is so, so boring because every build can do that.

I could go full no-life mode and continually slam legendaries at the hopes of good corruptions, but its the same situation every build has. I love the playstyle, but the sauce just ain't there yet

[sour salmon]

any recommendation about the skill that can consistently stack poison for rogue and blade dancer?

I had tried to stack the poison with Shadow cascade but have problem with the consistency while fighting abberoth

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkY5dXg6

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 93

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (65) / Falconer (17)

General:

▸ Health: 2,656, Regen: 19.02/s
▸ Mana: 148.97, Regen: 10.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 27 Dex / 9 Int / 21 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 141% / 95% / 118% / 64% / 78% / 100% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 690
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (687)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (814)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 4%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 92%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Shift / Umbral Blades / Dancing Strikes / Synchronized Strike

[desert bridge]

Little more detail for you on why: You want armor because armor damage reduction affects ward damage taken. Endurance ONLY affects health damage taken, which if you're doing a low life build, you never want to be taking.

[topaz forge]

I gotcha thanks. I kinda thought about endurance affecting life after you answered me saying armor. Been a couple seasons since I've played lol. Still trying to get back into it. Speed running as much as possible lol. Cause I got D4 expansion in a week xD

[desert bridge]

Yeah, and then POE2 is coming up soon too 😝

[topaz forge]

yeah that too. So much good arpg content in a short time

[fresh forge]

guys can anyone explain to me how does this build even work?

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/k42yoy0u#1

Ive been testing it but I dont understand how do people even get the damage to one shot bosses. Even farming in corruption 300 is kinda rough at times.

Is there like a proper guide to explain this?

[potent rune]

Just follow the maxroll one ,then adjust

[fresh forge]

Ive been adjusting this but honestly I dont quite get why is shadow cascade even in this

when umbral does 95% of my damage

Would be nice if there is some explained guide on the rotations if there is one

[potent rune]

The build and the skills has way too much increased damage that gets multiplied by so much more damage that one shots any boss can do 2 billion damage,can do 1 billion damage in a party with 4 people in it vs uber

[potent rune]

Clear plus mana generation

[fresh forge]

Currently I was trying with Smoke bomb and then shadow rend in order to stack shadows and throw in shift in order spam shadows then throw in umbral blades but Im not sure if im just screwing it up or not cause my highest damage ive seen is only around 100k

huh so basically im rotating the spam by using shadow cascade to refill my mana?

[potent rune]

You dont use cascade ,you use shadow rend that cast cascade via shadows

You should be demolishing anything to be honest if you follow the build and gear if you have problems share your build from last epoch tools character and people will tell you what you may be doing wrong

[fresh forge]

i see

then its probably a crit issue

im not critting enough

[loud arrow]

would like to say that while I love how the shadow rend bladedancer plays, I can't do Edge of Eternity (or whatever echo is the one with the harbingers one after another) at corruption 580 because I can't see the ground, or the abilities, or anything for that matter lol

[flint turret]

Terrible type of a gameplay but DPS is great ngl

[flint turret]

They should be dying before barely casting anything tbh

And you should be having around 10k ward at that point

So only bugged abilities will kill you

[naive saddle]

Nah that's very well-handled. It's the blue orobyss that's screwed up because of the unforgiving sparks that have to be offscreened or you'll die randomly.

If I get a red or green orobyss, I'm celebrating. But the blue ones are such a chore.

[flint turret]

I'm not saying it's badly handled I'm talking about the "type" of melee gameplay on mm which don't do deal most of the time because it has to run around. The plays itself were great

[naive saddle]

DPS is nutty though for multishot, that's insane.

[flint turret]

Because that's not multishot damage that's all shurikens

[naive saddle]

Ye ofc, that's still a bow-based melee build 😄

[flint turret]

Yeah I'm glad someone actually did it and went high corr with bow shuri, because the vast majority either didn't believe in it when I said it's gonna be the best mm build or didn't want to bother with corruptions

[naive saddle]

Also it's a very unintuitive build.

You'd expect your bow to kill stuff as you're shooting with them, but it's you moving to them with shuris that does damage once they have millions of ailment stacks.

Similar to how hydrahedron is backwards.

Or the various time rot throwers (but at least those are ailment builds).

[flint turret]

Why and how? Just from the get-go math it looks great on paper with any rapid hitting skill be it multishot or hs

[naive saddle]

Yeye, but it's unattractive because you need to be in melee.

[flint turret]

You don't

That's just for more single target dps

For clearing you just go with a line shuri or chakrams or whatever and it clears offscreen

[serene crane]

Somehow multishot with shuriken shield just doesnt feel right...

[naive saddle]

Haha ye 😄

[flint turret]

Well yeah it's kinda sad that the best bow builds are purely shuriken damage based now, but it is what it is

[naive saddle]

It's how that swarmblade druid felt in S2 that could oneshot uber. You cast all these spells, then you need to run around whacking everything with your 0-range melee ability 😄

[flint turret]

At least the gameplay is the same

[naive saddle]

But imho that kind of playstyle fits acolytes mores.

I like how shadow rend landed, especially the "sending" of the shadows and having them do casts, drop umbrals, etc.

Feels like a significant improvement over the old falconer playstyle, where you basically had the same systems, but it was hard to tell what's doing damage.

[flint turret]

I have mixed feelings about rend. It lacks the damage potential by itself, and it enables 2 overturned skills like cascade and umbrals. The mechanics of the skill are decent tho

Also the delay between shadow creation is too much

[serene crane]

So far I like Hs with shuri shield the most, multishot might look really cool with chakrams on well geared character

[naive saddle]

I like buff-stacker builds (umbral falconer, rend, hydra, etc.)

Feels a much more natural use of the mechanics and systems that rogues have.

And for better or worse, I like there being a single-target skill in the build

So it doesn't all default to 4 buffs + 1 aoe ability.

The way sentinels have it

[serene crane]

Sadly Rend just ends most of the time with the usual suspects of "haha shadows go brrrr", ward spam and cascade...

[naive saddle]

Ye, if it was purely for shroud generation like a "build up" (like maelstrom) then it would make more sense.

Build up stacks, then bomb and use either umbral or cascade.

But the "building" also doing damage, dropping blades and casting cascade daggers is a bit much on one button.

With umbral at least I had to go through the wrist-pain of holding down 4 buttons 😄

This now feels like the obvious health recommendation to your falconer RSI.

Or at least, with umbral I had to decide in what order they go off and trigger.

And how I prioritise mana.

(umbral = S2 umbral falconer)

With rend, it's more like rend 99%, and one of my main actions is "wait" to let flow stacks drop.

That kind of sucks.

[serene crane]

Ive played Time Rot VK with some home cooked Erasing Strike, harb mace with Forgotten Knight sword+amu, Insomnia or whatever the helmet is for for zooming around and Anomaly for the big time rot consumption and had quite a lot of fun, but I only got it to like 400corr before starting another rogue 😄 the time rot prolif there is pretty cool, I Wish there were more things like that and not just Ember amu for ignite

[naive saddle]

Ye I loved those builds too.

Especially soul cleave + throw javelin in S2 with time rot.

For that big nuclear strike when you needed all popped fast.

[serene crane]

You can skip the Flow part and just kill Uber with Rend spam, its just not that oneshotty

[naive saddle]

Ye but I like the oneshotty feel

I build all the oneshot builds every season, I like the challenge.

Druid one was far the worst, but very satisfying. It just sucked cause it was useless in echos.

I just don't like that Evade also produces Flow.

Imho should be either your own skills + a combo skill for the 4-cycle.

The 5-cycle should need 2 combo skills or deliberate setup.

It's not fun playing "flow" with a build that stacks attack speed.

[serene crane]

Before 1.0 I used to play bleed Lethal Mirage that could oneshot bosses on lower corr with the Puncture pop, was fun 😄 maybe it could still work now too with all the stuff... But Rend just spams so many more stacks

[naive saddle]

Tbh that "pop" is what I expected from things like Anomaly (w/ Quicksand), Ignite Weapon mage, etc.

Kinda sad that barely any of the classes delivers on that fantasy.

[serene crane]

Dancing Strikes on BD is probably the best, just the skill itself and points for it are lowkey horrible 😄

Hopefully in 1.5 we get the last BD skill... Maybe MM and other reworks 😄

[flint turret]

Weird to see both "one-shot" and "challenge" together ngl. But I kind-ish get what you meant

[pearl forge]

you can build an event horizon 1 snap with rend or LM

im curious in how much damage it does

even with shitty gear i kinda equipped it with 1LP

and was hitting for like 6m hits

but no cdr and downside is quite oof

[buoyant roost]

that's what I wanted to try hachadino

[serene crane]

Could be cool to do 😄 I reaaaally hope BD gets more 2h enablers... Like Dancing Strikes with Event Horizon, dancing around with a huge ass hammer... Sounds cool

[buoyant roost]

but BBC is so much better sadly I think. just because of the CDR

[flint turret]

I doubt rend will work with flow even tho I haven't tried it. I'd bet that only the initial attack will get the bonus and not the shadow attack that follows, because flow doesn't(or at least devs said it shouldn't) work for shadows

But maybe bleed lm can have some potential due to flow+pulse scaling

Maybe even with torkfin or something kekw

[buoyant roost]

will hail of arrows converted to fire have c hance to be thrown by wildfire wisps

[flint turret]

No

[serene crane]

My sad guess is, Rend will forever just be a slave to shadow and ward generation addicted to attack speed

[flint turret]

So far seems like so

[buoyant roost]

why 🙁

[flint turret]

The hidden strength that makes rend do 60% more damage per shadow need to have an option to resummon shadows like cascade to be competitive at all

[flint turret]

Actually nwm, it might? I for some reason though about hydra repeats

That one can't repeat skills with cd

[serene crane]

If ots fire, non channeled and you can have multiple HoA active, then it should? 🤔 cant check the skills and items rn

Right, cooldowns...

[flint turret]

Wisp doesn't mention CD tho