🔪┃rogue

[buoyant roost]

you dont have a lot of boost on that

[wary cedar]

🤨

what

[buoyant roost]

the mourning boots give cold dmg

[ebon jungle]

????

what are you talking about joe

[wary cedar]

ya and?

[buoyant roost]

your "physical damage" does not boost it

[wary cedar]

maybe he should get cold dmg on his rings and stuff then?

[ebon jungle]

I think miserys saying that just forget about your build llul

[buoyant roost]

I guess with a 100 dex

[wary cedar]

in my heartseeker build shuricens have a 1200% increased cold dmg
the type of the dmg is no problem

[buoyant roost]

but you would have to scaricise your throwing damage

[wary cedar]

no

[buoyant roost]

sacrifice*

[serene crane]

Well yea, but at that point its just losing all the points and affixes for throw and going dex, might just go for cold Hs at that point 😄

[wary cedar]

you can just get both

[buoyant roost]

you only get so many preffixes 😄

its either dex/throwing & cold/phys

[wary cedar]

we re season 4 buddy

just corrupt it

until it hit

[buoyant roost]

well personally I'd like to get my build online in some 10 hours of gameplay 😄

not 50 hours of rng

[wary cedar]

maxroll omnis - all res blessing - one red ring
then 2 affixes on cold/phys res anywhere and you have maxed res

[wary cedar]

you can play the build with only having dex or throw dmg
but it's not that hard to get i'd say

if he only wants to play his character for 10hrs then it's fine ig

i always plan my things around 150hrs playtime or more at least
but i only do one character 🫃

[serene crane]

Nah, no point counting on Morningfrost, dex and other corruptions at this moment, maybe later on, priority is just the bow and quiver with the corruption

[buoyant roost]

even those 2 are not going to be easy

like acid flask on bow weaver idol

[serene crane]

1LP Fury is fine... I yeeted one into weaver imprint and got 4 copies from some drop just need enough exalted bows for slams

[buoyant roost]

what to put in Lp3 thorn slinger hmm

finally a decent corruption

hahaha. dancing strikes ailment is so funny with omen windows 😄 you stack so much stuff on the omen, that his shield is gone, he dies right away XD

[half oxide]

can someone help with ballista, why cna I only have 2 turrets at once?

[serene crane]

It feels like the Omens are super squishy...

[ebon jungle]

@wary cedar cant find, do better but imagine these on a 4lp mourning would be sick

i wanted the t6 on cold but ohwell

[buoyant roost]

screenshot when done

[serene crane]

%phys / ailment cleanse on potion / hybrid life? 😄 cant really go wrong with mana regen too or cooldowns I guess

[ebon jungle]

oh i didnt actually realise it was 7.4m

[buoyant roost]

I have cleanse on smoke bomb. but yeah those what Im thinking

[ebon jungle]

same with 3lp 3.7k wot

Im a bit delusional its ok

[serene crane]

Yea its pretty much just for Uber, its barely important for anything else it feels like

[ebon jungle]

if you want more dodge quickly to boost decoy crit multi thats the way

[serene crane]

Yea, I know, I was talking about the ailment cleanse 😄

[ebon jungle]

thats a given

smoke bomb cleanse is the best if you dont have it anywhere else

[serene crane]

4LP Stealth... only 9 effective lp higher but x10 worse wild

better chances of getting 4LP Razorfall, lol

[buoyant roost]

mage time XD

I don't know what to put as 5th skill on the bleed build 🙁

I really wish there was some "buff skill"

[serene crane]

Get Salt the Wounds => Decoy, ezpz dodge and crit multi => bleed pen 😄

[buoyant roost]

WINGSSSSSSS

I have enough pen on the swords as well

[serene crane]

This looks like a pretty solid altar idol setup for dual swords too... for your current one Pyramid would be better to boost all the large and huge idols, but with the %suffix boost... a bit more bleed damage but also over 100% less bleed chance lost from the Adorned idols

I think planner doesnt count with the converted multi into pen for the damage 🤔

[buoyant roost]

I sapped for omni and the set ring (just normal ring for now)

and for the alter, man o man 😄 I am so unlucky with those

I get t1, t3 shit all the time

[serene crane]

Yea but more pen is just more damage on top of the swords aswell 😄 + with the Abandonded bonus you would have even more If you rolled crit multi on the swords... but thats the big dream... 😄 thats why it was really nice to play with dual katanas

[buoyant roost]

well shurikens and puncutre also shred physical res

so thats another 20%

[serene crane]

I bought like 28 Omen's Veils or so, picked currency at the end and got my money back + extra bonus with a lot of altars... its just annoying to farm ngl

[buoyant roost]

I'm thinking about this

but it will drain my mana. I have to stop and use sapping from puncture

[serene crane]

It wasnt so bad with high attack speed and Puncture, I did the same thing with the ignite DS 😄

3/5 Spell Breaker for a bit of mana regen and Frailty, so you can drop frailty from relic; 4/6 Stamina of the Rover for mana regen and 5 mana on dodge... it helps quite nicely, less stopping for Puncture 😄

I'd say drop the right side, get Effi Toxins for 12% inc. DoT and the mana nodes; phys shred should be ezpz from Shurikens anyway

[buoyant roost]

oh toxina ffects bleed as well hmm

[serene crane]

yea works for any DoT

[buoyant roost]

I can have fraily also on the cascade

but its funny playing XD

dancing while spaming puincture + cascade all the time

hold right click press R puncture, press Q for cascade, press E bomb 😄

[serene crane]

yea I'd for sure swap it for Flurry... 😄

What sucks tho is getting points for Cascade in DS...

[buoyant roost]

I can get +1 point if I put shattered set 😄

in the relic

what were good adorned idols

[serene crane]

Better to just use the passive, also few % for Parry there

[buoyant roost]

no worries

problem solved

[serene crane]

%bleed chance per equipped sword / %inc damage with sword // crit multi (Salts) %DoT+%endu enchant

I guess this, no Shadows so no points going for Careful Assault

[buoyant roost]

you think dagger dance instead of battle trance

but I guess it only lasts like 0.1 seconds 😄

[serene crane]

Its just more things that flies around and applies bleed, Battle Trance you have to use Cascade directly and at that point, just keep using DS 😄

[tawny lodge]

hey, can anyone explain to me, how umbral blades can get the fire tag? thy symbol is shown in the skills tab, but i cant find a way to do so

[serene crane]

And probably this without Omnis... the lack of points is 💀 with +2 Omnis just get the Rhytm stacks I guess

[buoyant roost]

umbrals? are you sure?

[buoyant roost]

erm. maybe because of htat explosion node

[tawny lodge]

thought so too...but didnt work out

[buoyant roost]

but that one is also physical

where did you get that screenshot from

[tawny lodge]

just did that shot myself

[buoyant roost]

ah the skills tab I see

[tawny lodge]

ahhh^^

[buoyant roost]

you know what Im thinking. I think NET might be better instead of cascade

[tawny lodge]

the "emerald cutlass" node even says, the explosion wouldnt do fire dmg anymore. But it doesnt from begining

[steady cypress]

okay

I believe we all know how strong physical shadow rend is

I would like to ask

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-rend-bladedancer-guide

for this fire version

why do we scale throwing dmg instead melee dmg?

[buoyant roost]

The node for dmg increase is only good when hitting a lot of mobs. 4 requirement. Most of the time the soon I enter the mobs they die :D. So not much worth on it 🙁

[steady cypress]

isn't most of the dmg is due to shadow cascade?

[buoyant roost]

its probably because of umbrals

[serene crane]

Could just go for the longer thrown daggers and Flay for more bleed chance, probably better

[buoyant roost]

that build is weird, not sure why would they go fire cascade while main source of damage is umbrals

[steady cypress]

wait

[buoyant roost]

or no, they only care about +4 skills on cascade for throwing dagger actually

[steady cypress]

so what exactly is the main source of dmg there?

I see trap

[steady cypress]

and shadow cascade

[buoyant roost]

this

I play a pure shadow cascade fire dmg version

[steady cypress]

wait that's even weirder

since the type of umbral blade is physical or cold

[buoyant roost]

yeah the firetorch is weird herte

and I guess the burning dagger play some role

so burning daggers + umbrals is your main soruce of dmg

[serene crane]

Its kinda all boosting itself

[steady cypress]

what about fire shadow cascade?

what is its role?

[serene crane]

You could take Eye of Reen and be just fine too

[buoyant roost]

thats only for +4

yeah my build uses Eye of Reen, but its pure physical damg

pure fire dmg*

[serene crane]

It scales up its damage there super easily and gives you ton of mana back from the refunds per shadow; also plenty of shadow daggers procs for extra basically free damage

[tawny lodge]

one more question...is cinder strikes "Volatile Flask" anyhow connected to acid flasks?

[steady cypress]

okay

but it's not the main source of dmg right?

the synergy of that build is hard to understand

the physical version is much straightforward

[buoyant roost]

no. no connection

and trust me dont plan on cinder strike build 😄

at least not as your main dmg source

[tawny lodge]

nah...its just my proc hit

[steady cypress]

okay

so right now

[serene crane]

Im not so sure if the main, but its big damage for sure... everything there is just doing damage, its not like the phys umbral rend where you scale mostly one-two things

[buoyant roost]

its kind of a different interesting take. why not. peopel like to experiment 🙂

[tawny lodge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKg94PJN this is what im on atm...WIP

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 91

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (24) / Marksman (5) / Falconer (55)

General:

▸ Health: 3,024, Regen: 107.49/s
▸ Mana: 156.96, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 129%, Regen: 95/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 98 Dex / 46 Int / 26 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 137% / 106% / 76% / 82% / 89% / 125% / 128%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 605
▸ Dodge Chance: 53% (1989)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,206)
▸ Block Chance: 10%, Mitigation: 19% (196)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 92%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Aerial Assault / Acid Flask / Falconry / Explosive Trap / Cinder Strike

[steady cypress]

because if it's the main then we should scale melee dmg

but here I see people scale throwing dmg

so I just wonder its role

tbh

if we don't have the one shot uber thing

then the physical version is very good for stacking rampancy+brutality

but well one shot exists

so no need for that

[serene crane]

Cascade throws daggers on its own, Umbrals is thrown aswell, traps too, procced shadow daggers are both thrown and melee; Cascade is entirely converted to thrown there with the nodes

[steady cypress]

hmm

so the main dmg seems to be burning dagger

[tawny lodge]

thats the plan so far...throwing dmg for wing burst and daggers

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane

hmm 🙁

I get another set as well, although I guess not htat great 😄

[buoyant roost]

this a bit weird for me to see

whats going to be your main source of dmg?

aerial?

[tawny lodge]

just experimenting xD Aerial does a great job so far
not quite sure where this will bring me, but the Burning daggers are also good

[buoyant roost]

yeah. but using cinder for your dmg is going to make you die pretty fast

[tawny lodge]

y?

to stationary?

[buoyant roost]

yes

[tawny lodge]

thought so too... started as bladedancer with strikes and arena, but the falcon is a great addon and clearing is way smoother atm

[serene crane]

Its a good hat, but from what Ive tried on the bleed Rend, it didnt really end up better than Blood Visage base... 😄

[buoyant roost]

yeah and actually makes my defense worst 😄

cause I need better block effectivnerss

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgRrR0j5

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (75) / Marksman (10) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,600, Regen: 19.58/s
▸ Mana: 144.99, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 70/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 27 Dex / 7 Int / 2 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 248% / 161% / 111% / 91% / 72% / 83% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 320
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (315)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (778)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shift

[buoyant roost]

I think 1 is cascade is enough, because I will lose too much mana

like this seems sustianable

[buoyant roost]

you can experiment around. see how it feels on the 100 cc

[tawny lodge]

upgrading corr 146 atm

[wary cedar]

🔥

[tawny lodge]

gtg...thx 4 infos and stuff...cya

[serene crane]

Thats my planner

[wary cedar]

my phys res is getting better

[buoyant roost]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEOz7e3
not sure how that happened 😄

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 85

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (62) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,032, Regen: 17.9/s
▸ Mana: 131.93, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 37/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 21 Dex / 9 Int / 4 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 71% / 31% / 115% / 103% / 52% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 406
▸ Dodge Chance: 43% (1417)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,056)
▸ Block Chance: 4%, Mitigation: 16% (120)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Shadow Cascade / Puncture

[wary cedar]

i get cold res no matter the outcome

[sour salmon]

it seem like this glove bonus melee damage per lv of falconry doesn't work, it only count till lvl 20 falconry right?

[somber flame]

I just got red ring for the first time, 0lp. Whats the best use for it? Weaver tree, nemesis etc.

[wary cedar]

Nemesis into corrupt

or nemesis -> slam -> corrupt

if you get lp

[serene crane]

Time to find Blood Visage with shuriken bleed chance I guess 😄

videogame ruined...

[buoyant roost]

what happened

[serene crane]

THE GRIP ON THE SWORD

[buoyant roost]

its kind of creative

what do you do when uberoth triple slams you, and on the safe spot there is Ground of Destruction? 😄

alt + f4?

[serene crane]

Im always trying to have ABerroth face the edge so that dumb af uber scaled Ground DoT aoe goes into the edge instead of the arena... 😄 either safe spot behind him or silver dusk

[serene crane]

I know, but at least the handle of the blade/dagger could be on the right spot, not with a spike or whatever in my hand... how am I suppose to play the game now

[buoyant roost]

its good for bleed

slashing them with it

[serene crane]

are we doing what I think we are doing...?

[buoyant roost]

so crit to bleed 😄

senbd me your uberoth with ignite

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message
Its in the same message with other links 😄 only difference is I used explo trap instead of Shift and exploding Umbrals insted of the recall stuff

Alright so... whenever Puncture procs from the dead enemies by Heartseeker and it crits, it also shoots Shurikes from that enemy towards wherever Puncture goes to... ngl that looks pretty funny

[brittle tartan]

Morning all, is there a concensus on the best endgame Bladedancer guide that everyone is currently using? I know there are several variations but not sure which one is legit. Thanks.

[sour salmon]

is Hybrid Ward+Hp Rouge viable for 300+ corruption?

[cedar sonnet]

did shift get shadow nerfed or something? my cdr was 1.4 going to bed last night, now its 1.8

[serene crane]

Very viable

[serene crane]

If you want easy time during Uberroth, umbral phys Rend is the one to go, there is a guide from Misha, its just takes some gearing and practicing the combo... fire crit cascade is great for mapping, but so is Rend

[brittle tartan]

Thankyou, will check it out.

[lost belfry]

Got a 4lp xithara amulet, was wondering what are the best affixes for phys rend?

[past sapphire]

can uberroth still 1 shot-ed in this patch?

[sour salmon]

is there better way to recover life for rouge without using any potion?

I'm running this chest and feel so clunky to recover my HP

[smoky basin]

life reg, and life leech

[serene crane]

life on hit, life on shadow creation

[wild ridge]

Why wouldn't he be able to be 1 shotted

Did they change him in some way?

I was getting him to 20% on multiplayer

[past sapphire]

because of his thumbnail. still midway and probably it's just click bait

[wild ridge]

Maybe he is tanky and no more one shots for him

Idk cause I looked over the notes and saw nothing about 1 shot tech changing

I may have missed something but

If you look it says omen windows in the back

[wraith nacelle]

It’s referring to the poison slugs during omen windows that could do crazy damage and one shot people at any core basically . They nerfed the mob a lot

[flat falcon]

What would you recommend for an all arounder? Best blend of mapping and UA?

[serene crane]

You can do the physical Rend and be just fine

[flat falcon]

One of Misha's videos from here, then?
https://www.youtube.com/@mishka3304

[quartz gust]

Frogs and Warpath are great

I think there are some Rogue builds that are good too

Not played those though

Cascade and Shadow Dance I think?

[quartz gust]

Might be what killed my Abom, my Abom was really very tanky but I got melted. Might have also just been overwhelmed.

It's not got the best AoE clear.

[serene crane]

You can either play any Rend with Shift that recalls umbral blades and dont really worry about anything while zooming through maps, easily swap few things around like idols that boost Umbral blade damage per dusk shroud on you and wipe the floor with Uberroth, any of that really

[desert bridge]

They were applying stacks of poison that lasted for like 20 seconds, and applying 2 stacks per attack per mob, and the poisons were doing TONS of damage.

oh and they exploded on death, applying more stacks

[quartz gust]

oof XD

[desert bridge]

Yeah, it was a "kill them before they get to melee or die" situation

[quartz gust]

Yeah, that sounds like what could have killed me then because I definitely wasn't able to kill enemies that fast as the AoE on Abom isn't the best

Welp

At least it was only a Legacy character XD

[lavish zephyr]

i leveled up a rogue to play shadow cascade, i forgot to respec cascade, went from 96k dmg to 980k on tooltip xD I wondered why 250 corr was hard

[wild ridge]

how do you have 980k tooltip?

mines like 220k

[wary cedar]

skill issues, most likley

[serene crane]

bruh

[wary cedar]

what are we looking at?

[serene crane]

the 1.3 mobs spawned in the hub after leaving the echo...

[misty magnet]

how the heck do you turn dancing strikes into fire damage so I can proc the burning daggers on this set passive?

[serene crane]

With the Kuzon set sword

[misty magnet]

that is so sad lmaoo

I corrupted a sword and get the set for it and wanted to try it

[serene crane]

Yeah not the best set item to corrupt, only for the max rolls 😄

[misty magnet]

I corrupted a regular sword and it got the set passive

[serene crane]

yea you want the original version for fire DS

[maiden gyro]

Kay so now that I have the bladestorm relic i have mana issues.. Not sure how to fix it..

[hasty fjord]

anyone building shadow cascade. I am following the maxroll build, but my mana just goes poof even though I have the mana efficiency of sync strike on my idols, but still can't sustain mana.

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane I meant video 😄 not hte builds for the ignite. killing uber

[serene crane]

Nope didnt record that 😄

[void ridge]

Is there an easy way to snapshot your in game character for something like lastepochtools.com? I've been trying to troubleshoot why I'm getting vamp in my low life build and was hoping to not have to just try to recreate manually. This has been driving me nuts

[buoyant roost]

import feature in builder?

[void ridge]

Ahh exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

If anyone has time to take a look and point out to me whatever I'm missing for where the vamp is coming from here! I reset skills and passives and tried without all the gear except chest and boots and just must have missed it. Health regen shows like 20 which isn't the source, I'm gaining very quickly when hitting shurikens on appropriate targets but show 0 leech or health/on hit

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olVLWJ16

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 85

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (77)

General:

▸ Health: 1,309, Regen: 25.08/s
▸ Mana: 92.93, Regen: 12.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 61%, Regen: 75/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 53 Dex / 25 Int / 20 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 44% / 11% / 63% / 26% / 11% / 117% / 29%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 262
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (0)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (744)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 66%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Lethal Mirage / Synchronized Strike / Shift

[buoyant roost]

Blessing

throwing damage leeched

[void ridge]

Just saw that, why does the builder make that so much easier to see lol

Thanks much, knew it was something small and dumb!

[serene crane]

You'll also still leech life from LM since you dont have Stonefists or at least Peak

[amber solstice]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ru/ApbO2RlR

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,298, Regen: 26.2/s
▸ Mana: 268.96, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 58%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 34 Str / 59 Dex / 29 Int / 29 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 63% / 55% / 49% / 83% / 78% / 103% / 83%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 460
▸ Dodge Chance: 33% (1156)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (676)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 112%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Dancing Strikes / Shurikens

[amber solstice]

Hi, can anyone explain why my health regeneration speed has suddenly increased when I deal damage ?

[amber solstice]

thx

How can I make up for it ? It's a bit annoying on Omen's Veil.

[pearl forge]

use nihilis and evade

but also yea about to drop the update we gamin https://www.twitch.tv/hachadino/clip/HorribleDeliciousTaroChocolateRain-hlrKGcJRLUwldD1V for a teaser

[pearl forge]

oh first uber i got him to last phase

nice nice

will try more tomorrow after doing some more upgrading

[left umbra]

I've corrupted like 10 doppelganger chests to get ward gained on shadow creation. Am I doing something wrong to get this affix on the chest lol?

[pearl forge]

EZ

[pearl forge]

it is better to try and craft an exalted with shards

than try to hit naty corrupt

[left umbra]

I got an exalted with t7 at least. It's just not the set chest I need lol

[pearl forge]

you can craft the set onto exalteds

and then seal it

if you get any chests with t7 prefix try to redemption them into your preferred mod too

sometimes you hit luckily fast

or you can havoc suffixes to prefix shadows

[left umbra]

Ah. So I need to shatter the current peices for the shards then put them onto an exalted peice?

[pearl forge]

yea

you need to use this echo to shatter the pieces

[left umbra]

Legend! Thank you

[sage flax]

W

[steady cypress]

So currently what's the best fire build for marksman/falconer?

Fire stacking self-throw fire flask with artifice of devastation?

[ebon jungle]

SHRED.

[sage flax]

maybe time to play around with 2h rend build

[sour salmon]

man, this rouge model is sexier than acolyte

[steady cypress]

hi guy. Or is there any burning dagger build that I'm not aware of?

[maiden gyro]

Yep not sure how to solve mana issues hhrrmm

[steady cypress]

you mean burning dagger build?

[tranquil narwhal]

Regarding these 2 nodes. Does the more global damage just add to 8%, and so you end up getting 80% more damage at 10 stacks?

[pearl forge]

80% more yea

think that is why cascade with dancing gets all that extra juice

[tranquil narwhal]

Cool thanks. Yeah that and Arena for 100% more

[rocky bloom]

qq how do you guys manage fps drops when playing shadow cascade build? like my fps drops from 200 to 40-50 and extremely laggy when playing this build specially in veil of omen map or even regular omen windows..

[maiden gyro]

no im using blade storm, and then relic keeps draining all my mana lol

[outer dome]

whats the actual mana cost to damage multuplier ratio?

[topaz forge]

What is easier to gear and get going between shadow rend and bladestorm? Also if I do go bladestorm which I'm leaning towards unless the gear requirement is significantly worse is it better to stay phys or conver to cold? And I've seen quite a few variants which is the strongest?

[half nova]

10 mana cost = 1% more damage per point

[outer dome]

cheers

[wary cedar]

is lootfilter enable/disable button bugged?

[buoyant roost]

alt + x?

[wary cedar]

nah it was bugged, but only in a single echo

when i disabled the filter - the items that showed up then never vanished when i enabled again

corruption kinda useless but could ve been more useless

[steady cypress]

hmm

is there anyway to make bow and throwing skill scales insanely with stats/gear?

spells has madness

melee has brutality+rampancy

I don't know about bow and throwing in this case

[steady cypress]

ok that's for cold build

[wary cedar]

no

[steady cypress]

what about fire?

[steady cypress]

like self cast fire flask

[wary cedar]

i m not joking

[ebon jungle]

time to lp then corrupt

[steady cypress]

hmm

I wish there was cold flask

[wary cedar]

-> rerolls all affixes to minimum

[wary cedar]

there is, but i leave it to you to judge how good it is

[ebon jungle]

the corrupt will become you misery!

[steady cypress]

@wary cedar ah yes there is

but that version

needs gear to cap crit

[ebon jungle]

what build are you talking abou

[steady cypress]

because I won't be able to wear traitor's tongue

[steady cypress]

cold acid flask

because cold got the flat from mourningfrost

but going cold meaning you need an offhand

meaning acid flask will lack flat crit source

fire acid flask has traitor's tongue

[wary cedar]

you can still play fire flask with mourning boots

[steady cypress]

yeah but I don't stack a lot of dex

I mainly stack throwing dmg, throwing attack speed

acid flask area

and fire res

[ebon jungle]

check this mmii

holy FAKIN SHEET CRIT CAP ACROSS EVERYTHING???

HOW???

ezpz

So yes u can stack dex easily

Might be better than stacking throw

[steady cypress]

oh

I almost forgot that amulet

so in the end

in rogue, cold is just better than fire?

[ebon jungle]

Seemingly misery hasnt proven that yet because hes shit at the game and only does monoliths

Ive been able to take down uberoth to 50% thus far

[steady cypress]

ah ok

with what build?

cold flask?

[wary cedar]

ehh

wouldnt say so

[ebon jungle]

Heartseeker

[wary cedar]

there are plenty of different builds

[ebon jungle]

Hes playing cold im playing fire

[steady cypress]

but we have heartseeker and acid flask

[ebon jungle]

In all honesty

[steady cypress]

which can be all converted to cold

[ebon jungle]

Just play and find out

[steady cypress]

and cold has the mourning frost bonus

[wary cedar]

adding around 135 flat cold dmg that gets increased from generic 'increased bow dmg' is good for any variant

no matter if fire or cold

[ebon jungle]

Im using mourning frost

And if i take it off my build is dead

[steady cypress]

but for flask we don't have generic increased throwing dmg

we need to select fire or cold

[wary cedar]

there is one build using fire flask

but i havent seen any good build with cold flask

if you can cook a build with cold flask and be fine running 500corr tell me xd

[steady cypress]

because the amulet that gives crit has not appeared in season 3 yet

right now I'm desperate to cook a fire rogue build (and it cannot be better by replacing it with other versions)

not fire shadow cascade

[wary cedar]

heartseeker dragonsong maybe

[dusk rose]

what do I do I keep dying randomly with my heartseeker MM lmao getting to >85 dodge on ramped up hits

[wary cedar]

or something around burning daggers

[steady cypress]

ah forgot to say the latter

and it cannot be better by replacing it with other versions

[wary cedar]

at this point you re searching for an unicorn xd

[wary cedar]

get more EHP against one shot - or silver shroud

[steady cypress]

hmm

[buoyant roost]

certain stuff will one shot you no matter what

like gilgamesh wave for example

[steady cypress]

do burning daggers from skills like cinder strike has good multipliers?

[wary cedar]

it's meh

i'd say

[dusk rose]

get more EHP against one shot
how would I get this? lol I have level 1 of that skill for silver shroud

[wary cedar]

hp - endurance - resistances - crit avoidance - general 'take less dmg' nodes - armor

you can start by loading your build into lastepoch tool, it will show you your ehp against one shot

[dusk rose]

I have 159% crit avoid, all resist caps, 68% base dodge, 21% armor, 31% glancing

only thing I cant do is hp, only have 1.2k

[wary cedar]

lmao

maybe get some hp then

[dusk rose]

even at 85% dodge I die with those effing lasers from golden threadweavers and the others if I didn't manually dodge it

1 hit

kinda getting tilted

[wary cedar]

or just do more dmg

😎

[steady cypress]

huh how many total attributes do you have?

do you wear shattered world?

[ebon jungle]

no dont need that lol

[steady cypress]

wait

[steady cypress]

oh

let me guess

2x red ring?

[ebon jungle]

lol

this guy is having a laugh

[steady cypress]

?

[ebon jungle]

Far from any red rings

[wary cedar]

mine for refrence

[ebon jungle]

and this is without entwined was it?

[wary cedar]

no entwined

no red rings

[ebon jungle]

which is pretty good

[steady cypress]

hmm

[ebon jungle]

mmiii

i can quickly stream here if u wanna see my build

[steady cypress]

ah yes

I would like

I want to see the source of stats

[ebon jungle]

join me @steady cypress

[steady cypress]

join what?

[ebon jungle]

lol

voice <<<

[steady cypress]

I mean what link do you want me to join?

[ebon jungle]

im in this server's voice

look on the left side

[wary cedar]

#1495056812762730506 click this

[serene crane]

Teamwork!

[ebon jungle]

click my name, join the stream

[steady cypress]

I joined

wait

how about you just provide the planner?

[ebon jungle]

$499.99 My paypal is [e-mail]

[wary cedar]

with taxes?

[ebon jungle]

well pretend it never happened

[serene crane]

I wonder... If I put "sp3tan" in the character load planner section... would I find it?

[ebon jungle]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/shpetan/character/shpet

[ebon jungle]

requires brain power

[steady cypress]

no wonder

cold flask cannot have this crit

you got 9% crit chance from bow

[wary cedar]

what is this btw

(i dont have this lmao)

[ebon jungle]

Uh

I dunno?

[wary cedar]

@serene crane teach us

[serene crane]

No idea tbh, unless the quest gives passive points I lowkey dont care could be sentinel reward? I know on rogue one of the quests give +1 to all atributes... but that could also be to every class

[eager mason]

act 9 and 10 both give 1 all attributes

[wary cedar]

well seems like it gives attributes lmoa

[ebon jungle]

lastepochbuilds is bugged

im fairly certain

[wary cedar]

😭

[ebon jungle]

ingame stats does not match up with lastepoch website

[wary cedar]

okay, i ll do act 9 & 10 today xd

[ebon jungle]

???

doesnt even match

[wary cedar]

rounding

[ebon jungle]

-43% cold ends up being -25% rounding it up?

[serene crane]

almost same numbers

[wary cedar]

i just saw this ok 😭

73 to 72

[eager mason]

you are looking at max not actual

[ebon jungle]

even actual is wrong

[serene crane]

well this is Actual and thats what you see when you click his character profile, so its what you should also see in game 🤔

[ebon jungle]

even the crit chance is completely wrong on the build planner

as well as crit multi

[serene crane]

Delete character and make a new one... including items, they might be corrupted in the code

[ebon jungle]

ffs

[dusk rose]

yeah I'm kinda leaning into that one, can't do more on defense

[wary cedar]

surley you cant do more than 1.2k hp xd

[serene crane]

1.2k hp is like zhp builds from 1.2 that run 10k corruption... 😄

[wary cedar]

he 's mm

[serene crane]

I think there was some heartseeker build like that too

[wary cedar]

you can't just ignore defense on heartseeker and call this a build

[serene crane]

Defenses are only needed at the time you need them, oterwise its just dps loss 🧠

[wary cedar]

dying is also a dps loss

[serene crane]

Dying means your dps was already low to kill whatever killed you

[wary cedar]

my bad not one shotting uber with heartseeeker i guess

[serene crane]

Yeah its more like death by 10 000 needle pokes 😄

[steady cypress]

yeah

fire throwing is better

you cannot stack a lot of dex

and you need to put affixes between cold and physical res

and the dex will minus the resistances too (which is needed for pen)

[serene crane]

Man, I run this on the Hs MM too and so far this character is giga unlucky, 99% mobs are possessed golems and they only drop the acolyte set

[steady cypress]

you also have a lot of less increased fire dmg and flask area

due to replacing them with dex

well at least fire flask is strong

if you stack increased fire dmg, flat throw and fire resistance like crazy

[serene crane]

Across all the rogues I have, Ive never properly touched acid flask, so idk... it surely got better last few patches tho

[topaz forge]

What's easier to gear between a a bladestorm or a shadow rend build? And if you use bladestorm is it better to leave it as physical or cold conversion? And what is strongest variant of bladestorm?

[wary cedar]

ok i just finished the story
i got 2k more dmg on my heartseeker tooltip

[steady cypress]

what build

fire or cold?

[wary cedar]

🥶

[dusk rose]

always dead due to necrotic holyfk

[sour salmon]

hmm, Is rouge fit for poison stacking build? been trying Acid Flask Falconer, the campaign was smooth but when come to lv 74 echo then the DMG feel off. I mean so much off

[serene crane]

I'd say Rend is easier... at the start you should be pretty much fine with Entwined Ring and just set items, If you manage to craft them even a little bit, then its just a lot better

[crimson latch]

my multishot is doing 1m dmg close target after dark quiver :V

500c

[arctic heart]

4k ignite stacks for burning bees.... seems fun....

[crimson latch]

build? hahaha

[arctic heart]

Absolute JANK....

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/moxonhit/character/Elleighy

My gear is awful, I am missing so many pieces too. No potion chance rolls, no good DoT rolls, no good slams on set piece slots.

[serene crane]

Looks fun for a hardcore build tbh 😄

[arctic heart]

I did it completely as a joke for my buddy with all my leftover HC leveling gear that I saved up. Turns out it has crazy burst.

It is slow mapping because bee AI is stupid.

I need way more efficient potion spawning somehow too, but ballistas are too expensive for mana and too few are spawned.

[buoyant roost]

I have found a bunch though with this node

[serene crane]

Yea, on other characters am pretty often dropping a lot but here... its super nothing 😄 so far only one Mountain boots, rest is legit only the set

[wary cedar]

THE AMOUNT OF HAVOC RUNES YOU GET IN THIS GAME IS NOT OKAY !

[serene crane]

I wasted like 7 last night where the t7 and t6 kept bouncing between suffixes, not even once goin to prefix...

[sour salmon]

wow, I just know that about the balisata potion thing

[wary cedar]

and oyu farm an entire day just to get those 7 havocs in the first place

[serene crane]

all that while every Omen keeps teasing you with multiple 3xt6/7 unsusable drops

[topaz forge]

Hmmm 🤔 alr what about bladestorm? If I do go that route I've seen several variants of that played. Even one where they use the Frost blade point in the skill tree for cold conversion? Is there a "stronger" setup for it?

[wary cedar]

and if you want to craft normal gear you have 0lp after sealing one affix and leveling up the new affix ot T5

so i can't even try with havoc runes

[serene crane]

Sounds about right

[quartz fable]

shadow rend build is hilarious

only at 296% melee AS too

[steady cypress]

okay

ignoring the umbral blade recall thing

if I use pure shadow rend+shadow cascade

then it does benefit from rampancy+brutality, right?

[wary cedar]

can someone tell me why this net nodes suck so much?

[serene crane]

Dont you like jumping forward in less distance than when you would just walk?

[wary cedar]

distance is fine

but he drops the smoke bomb at the point where i started

and not where i landed

[zenith rivet]

i tried those nodes a couple of seasons ago and was so disappointed when i found out the smoke bomb is released at the start of the jump instead of the end

it would be sick if it was at the end

[topaz forge]

What are your thoughts on cold vs straight phys bladestorm?

[serene crane]

With cold you can just take Mourningfrost, stack dex and throw damage, its just up to you what you like more

[topaz forge]

I gotcha. So there isn't really a that version is stronger/faster than the other? Etc

[serene crane]

Probably about the same tbh, just different gearing

[topaz forge]

Gotcha. Thanks

[arctic heart]

It is ungodly inconsitent without a major devotion to moving to ballista though. I can't figure out a solid susatin for potions for mapping so far.

I have the exact same build idea for Acolyte, but it uses the bone golem to spawn potion with Sanguine Orb since it hits so often. Then I am going to run Curse damage and just run Bone Curse for massive dps. I just wanted to try this version too for Rogue. Seems way way worse.

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost how about Sync Strike with the usual Cascade sh!ttery but with World Splitter 🤔

[zealous hornet]

Hi
for heartseeker, is the maxroll version basically the "right way" to play it, or is there better version ,did look at high corruption build , but they seem to basically only invest in dodge because at 9k corruption ,everything oneshots anyway , so it's not really a realistic build to run outside of pushing leaderboard (I think , might just don't understand the beauty of zdps) , in case you need some context, this is the build in question https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/heartseeker-marksman-guide
so far on my end , thinking of replacing shuriken with a shift setup since I basically never press shuriken , so unless I get something like 10% to cast shuriken on hit , it's kind of a useless skill in my hands
also is there general things I should understand about building in this game or is there other good version of the heartseeker build ( prob only cold variant since from what I got ,dragonsong is not great this season)
thanks in advance for your time

[wary cedar]

i dont understand the question

[zealous hornet]

basically looking for heartseeker advices , included the build I'm mostly following to know if some stuff about it is a bit debatable and if so why , and also asked if there were just other options (for exemple saw some people running ocearon on the zdps version)

[wary cedar]

you can just follow the maxroll build it's fine

and make some changes on personal prefrences

[serene crane]

Ocearon is just extra damage per shock on enemies and little DR, Nomad is just defense

[dusk rose]

I switched my boots into mourningfrost with max movement

now I can evade everything manually almost 99% lmao

[serene crane]

what I dont get is why are you talking about Shurikens when the build doesnt even mention them? 🤔 it has the icicle corruptions on both bow and quiver

[zealous hornet]

damnit it got updated lmao , didn't reboot my computer for a while, was looking at an older version X)

it used to have shuriken for the bladed armor node instead of shift

[serene crane]

You dont care about Shift+Bladed armor anymore since the Shuri doesnt give %armor anymore

[dusk rose]

fk I forgot to T8

[zealous hornet]

it does with this node, but regardless, solves my questions for now

[dusk rose]

🥹

[zealous hornet]

thank you ^w^

[wary cedar]

"direclty"

[serene crane]

With a direct use of Shurikens yea, which you're spamming Hs => army of icicles starts flying towards the enemies

[dusk rose]

fk

[zealous hornet]

yeah it didn't feel good to use

[serene crane]

tbh Shuriken with self-casted Bladed Armour would feel a lot better at least if it got the same instant cast like Falconer can get for Falcon Strikes and Dive Bomb... now you'd have to stop in place every single time to cast the shurikens... super lame 😄

[zealous hornet]

yeah...

[wary cedar]

i think i will make a macro so i autocast smokebomb after shift

[zealous hornet]

is that allowed?

[wary cedar]

how will they detect?

it's all in my keyboard

[serene crane]

Falconers have been doing that since release for every single skill, so... yeah 😄

[zealous hornet]

understandable then , played falconeer legit 2 seasons ago , guess I took the annoying way X)

[wary cedar]

i can bind 4 different keys to one key lmao

[zealous hornet]

X)

[wary cedar]

and depending on how deep i press the key a different key is getting used

[steady cypress]

hmm

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-rend-bladedancer-guide

I want to ask

where is the attack that triggers umbral blades in this build?

ah ok I see

umbral remnant

[dusk rose]

what the fuk is this

[wary cedar]

🐝

ok =plaiyng = =with =macros =opens =up =so =many =new =builds =lmao

dont =mind =the == =thats =just =the =macro

lmao

ok but the macro on my keyboard is so cool hands down

the second ability i want to chain on the single keypress only activates when i fully press the key, if i just tap it it doesnt

[serene crane]

=very =nice =message =good =build =Im =proud

[buoyant roost]

hmm. to max Coated Blades passive?

[serene crane]

Yep 😄 its kiiiinda pivoting to the usual sync cascade lowlife that people play now, not sure If I like that so we'll see

[buoyant roost]

what would you slam on the splitter

[flint turret]

Coated blades is mana consumed, it's not mana cost

[serene crane]

Mmmmm, no clue, maybe flat phys, crit multi?

not to my self: dont use doppel helmet with lowlife

[buoyant roost]

whats the difference

[flint turret]

You don't get bonuses from things that depend on manacost if it's mana consumed

Manacost remains the same

[serene crane]

So whatever World Splitter gives, it'll only count the base cost, right 🤔 still, some extra damage from both I guess

[flint turret]

You just loose extra mana on top

[buoyant roost]

like ward per mana cost

[flint turret]

Like anything per mana cost

Consumed is not factored in it

And it's not factored in mana efficiency stuff, it's just flat mana loss

Since you mentioned works splitter and coated blades together

[serene crane]

eh I just noticed, Coated Blades is only for direct skills anyway, so the procced Cascades wont benefit from that at all

[buoyant roost]

so the unique effect of ciritical chance per mana cost wont work

[flint turret]

For the "consume" part no, for the regular 15 manacost it will, regardless if it's triggered or casted directly

I tried it with rend multishot, multishot gets more damage depending on it's manacost from mm tree even if it's triggered

[buoyant roost]

the mmm tree one is differen tthough

its mana cost in that case?

[flint turret]

It's the same, more damage per manacost

[sage flax]

this is worth loseing the crit multi

[flint turret]

Depends on how critical that +1 to you is. Usually +1 is around 20% multi for skills or around 5 to 10 more damage

[sage flax]

dont think its needed rly since i have what i would need

[ebon jungle]

lol

[ebon jungle]

where do you even fight observer?

[wary cedar]

act 10

[crimson latch]

send planner of your version for HS

[ebon jungle]

but is he not added as a endgame boss like uberoth?

[wary cedar]

idontthink so

[ebon jungle]

this armor i would love myself

[ebon jungle]

thats sad i really thought he was added as one

[wary cedar]

cry

[ebon jungle]

ive been crying this entire time over how shit you are at building heartseeker 😢

[ornate plaza]

hello o7 can i post a build link in here? looking for advice on what to put on my lp1 dagger, and i dont know if theres a special room for this kind of question so...

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOwJEzZY heres what im working with

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (28) / Falconer (63)

General:

▸ Health: 1,158, Regen: 19.72/s
▸ Mana: 400.5, Regen: 9.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 69 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 73% / 79% / 20% / 73% / 11% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 406
▸ Dodge Chance: 46% (1690)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (734)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Used skills:

Falconry / Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Bladestorm / Umbral Blades

[wary cedar]

what in the skibidi is this build https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/jessrabbit/character/JessZHP

[ebon jungle]

huge dps increase

[serene crane]

Big throw damage

[ebon jungle]

you know what

[wraith nacelle]

They did add it you have to beat the three omen window woven echo with all three active at ounce to then unlock the new boss fight woven echo

[ebon jungle]

if i wanna go even bigger i make a set relic instead

[ebon jungle]

i did that one already yeah

uberoth is the only thing i havent beaten

[serene crane]

Idk, the extra attack speed from boosted Frenzy is pretty big

[ebon jungle]

i dont use shattered world

although wouldnt be a bad idea

i also wonder

[serene crane]

From pure boredom I tried to stack any attack speed possible in a planner for Bladedancer and got to like 490%... with bow it could also be super funny to do 😄

[ebon jungle]

if ricochet is even worth it

cuz that adds back 50 crit multi

[serene crane]

I personally didnt like it much, but idk, dont have much experience with it 😄

What is a lot of fun tho, is when Puncture procs from Heartseeker, it crits and it also procs the Shuriken corruptions... group of shurikens just fly from the enemy that died

[wary cedar]

on ====how ====much ====tickrate ====is ====LE?

[ebon jungle]

seems like its actually worht it

ive unfortunatley lost 10 dex overall

but gained like mega dps

[ebon jungle]

You really love to show how much of a subhuman, low life intelligent human being you are almost everytime you comment

[wary cedar]

my keyboard is now a controller

[serene crane]

Do you have the mana nodes in Shadow Cascade and +1 shadow on gloves/body?

[tired hinge]

I dont have the +1 shadow, why is that related to mana?

[serene crane]

because then every Cascade gives you 6 mana per active shadow

Base 3 shadows, +1 from being BD, +1 from BD passive, +1 from doppel body, +1 from Mirage gloves

[tired hinge]

Ok makes sense, thanks. I'm only just beggining on monos as lvl 62. But have most base gear.

[serene crane]

You can drop Explo traps, take Shift, swap from traversal smoke bomb and in Umbral Blades take the Shift recall nodes; once you get the gear and stuff you can swap back

[upper vale]

I played with this build a little.
The +1 Shadow really helps, but if you're really going empty there is more to it.
-Mana cost on rings and Smoke Bomb also helps

[marble zealot]

:3

[austere cove]

hi i have a question for shadow cascade build

which variant think you is the easier to gear pls?

[ebon jungle]

@serene crane it actually prohibited single target more i think

ricochet that is

[wary cedar]

explain yourself

[marble zealot]

shuriken go brr

[wary cedar]

btw guys any ideas on what skills i can use in my heartseeker? i currently have only 3 specialized

heartseeker - smoke bomb - puncture

😭

[tired hinge]

Excuse my noobishness, but what are those extra stuff on the gloves and chest? Dodge+shadow on gloves, dmg from shadow+ max shadows on chest. How do I add those?

[serene crane]

Well, that kinda sucks? 😄

[serene crane]

Its crafted from the set items, at least on the body

[tired hinge]

Oh yeah, chest makes sense, but gloves

[serene crane]

for Mirage gloves, you need to kill "Mirage" rare enemies, they have the text under name name and this only drops on gloves

[tired hinge]

uhuh, hmm never seen those, hopefully I don't have them hidden in my loot filter 😅

[flint turret]

hows bow shuriken going

[serene crane]

On the weaver tree, you can take: Dual Destruction; Heroic Gauntlet; The Mage Bane (and more Mage Prison nodes); Omen's Soldiers; Gladiatory Crucible (unless you have arena echoes blocked by Eclipsed Battleground)
Then just run echoes; with the Mages you can run Rune Prison Complex; Pillar of Skulls woven echo spawns several champions too (just not guaranteed to have Mirage spawned there); the last Omen echo can spawn them too; Gauntlet of Strife can spawn them too

[flint turret]

whats the strat to rolling good nihilis now? just get 1lp any and corrupt all 0lp to reroll 1lp? and other high lvl lp items

[serene crane]

It works pretty well I must say, but Im super unlucky with getting the corruption on slammed bows... out of like 30 bows I only got it once and it was t1, which was just worse than 0LP with like t5 corruption

[flint turret]

dam, i started from getting shattered and nihilis and i got decent shattered before i got decent nihilis kekw

[buoyant roost]

pretty easy you said 😄

but you dont really need a unique

Im doing that build as well now 🙂

lvl 30 😄

[serene crane]

Just make a new rule:
Show - affix - Personal => Mirage; can recolor it If you want 😄 and you can also add Rarity - Exalted

[serene crane]

Yea idk, I was getting it as a raw drom from Omens on 0LP bows quite often 😄 but slammed? Unlucky... 😄

[tired hinge]

Great info, thanks

[flint turret]

do i just corrupt 0lp drelkors for t6-t7 shuri to start with?

or do i go the long way of 1lp slamming i wonder

[serene crane]

0LP first, its good enough for the start 😄

[flint turret]

yeah thats what i thought, i dont evene have red rings to imprint for now

[austere cove]

any can anwser my question pls?

[serene crane]

I just went with double Nomad... buuut I didnt bother slamming them, it would help a lot with damage too

[flint turret]

rr is just everything that i would need, mana regen, surv, all res

im not sure i would rather farm and slam 3lp nomads

rrs seems easier probably

[serene crane]

You can start both with just set items; get Entwinned ring from the Rift Beast vendor, Doppel helmet+relic; Last Bear gloves+body; Abandoned Amulet; Keplahan blue ring; Jormun sword+belt; Ferebor dagger => Tongue; Zerrik boots => Tabi boots

[buoyant roost]

yeah, but theres a bigger problem here. its first getting the affix

[flint turret]

whats the strat now for high lp items? nemesis everything or just corrupt 0lp and reroll

[buoyant roost]

but also getting it the right tier

[ebon jungle]

back at 139 dex

[austere cove]

okay but which variant think you is more tanky?

[serene crane]

without the corruption you just play some usual Heartseeker build tbh.... buuuuuut with the corrupted bow (and quiver) it can get quite versatile tbh... throw focused / Lightning crit / Bleed / armor shred => poison / cold

[flint turret]

or do i just go for hs shuri to begin with i wonder

[serene crane]

The physical one.... you can have helmet and body both with Ward on shadow creation.. with high attack speed it gets super dumb like 8-12k ward while spamming Rend... also Doppel helmet gives you Shroud dusk chance on consuming Shadow, which you do all the time

[serene crane]

I did that, clear was a bit ass, but I went for Puncture and it pretty much solved the issue... and when the puncture crits, it can also trigger the shurikens

[flint turret]

well duh, who would go hs WITHOUT puncture

[serene crane]

Yea, I'd say 10%+ chance for sure... or less if you manage to get it on quiver too, but tbh no idea how the chances count in this case 😄

[austere cove]

i talk about shadow cascade build on maxroll not shadow rend

[serene crane]

I feel personally attacked

[buoyant roost]

but you can jsut get a regular exalted bow with the corrupted affix no? it'll work fine.

[serene crane]

Didnt you link Rend with fire cascade tho

[flint turret]

i mean the only reson to go hs is puncture triggering shuri in the first place

[serene crane]

Yeeee... from Omens it got some good chances to get dropped I guess

[flint turret]

i have no idea if its better clear than multishot i havent seen anyone investing enouth in either

[serene crane]

eh my bad.... I'd say the lowlife cascade with sync strike is just tankier

[austere cove]

nope the maxroll shadow cascade guide tell me use synchronised strike then shift to trigger shadow cascade

[serene crane]

Yea I havent tried multishot with Drelkor myself, but clear should be good tho

[austere cove]

okay ty

[serene crane]

also this for the body armor
#🔪┃rogue message

[flint turret]

null+immortal stone+vise with either fire using throne for more armor or phys with doppel

can also add 2 rrs and just facetank uber probably

[austere cove]

for my gear i follow the maxroll guide

[marble zealot]

took me 140 corruptions to hit t7 shuriken on my bow, absolute giga pain, severe julra ptsd

over 60 quivers aswell without seeing the mod

build is gigaop tho

[flint turret]

can you post your planner? and do you have a video of it in semi-high corr?

[marble zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/jessrabbit/character/JessZHP

https://streamable.com/1rpz4v

very rarely died in monos on the road to 9k

[serene crane]

All the procs are super satisfying too

[flint turret]

this is getting silly, secong highrolled shattered and not a single decent nihilis 1lp

and no vise either

im not even sure i want shattered ig rather go ucenui

[flint turret]

yikes zhp... makes sense but im really not a fan

do you have y\t video? i cant watch there

how do you even live in omen windows

[buoyant roost]

how do you generate so much ward though?

[ebon jungle]

I never asked but does mourningfrost count towards throwing as well?

[buoyant roost]

should be

[serene crane]

Yea it says "attack" so ye

[ebon jungle]

attack could just be attacks and not throwing attacks thats why i ask

[marble zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4GXFkgrP8I

theres uabby and stuff too

that clip is ages old idk if its a good representation

[serene crane]

Just like "attack speed" counts for melee+throw+bow

[ebon jungle]

scaling back 3 dex for 6 more throw dmg

[serene crane]

38s Uberroth is super sweet

[marble zealot]

u sit still and shoot xd tho you do die sometimes

[ebon jungle]

Meanwhile im struggling to get past certain moments

[serene crane]

I wonder how funny ignite Hs with Ember amulet would be 🤔

[flint turret]

damage is sick

yeah bladeshield melted uber like i expected to

nice

have you tried doing the same with multishot?

[marble zealot]

nah my whole gear is recurve chance

[naive saddle]

That's heartseeker?

[serene crane]

Yea with the Shuriken bow+quiver corruption

[naive saddle]

I never played bow-anything

Other than the zhp falconer

But it's impressive

This doesn't seem the same variant as the one that drops more "ice turrets" from dead enemies?

[tired hinge]

Hiya, noobish question here.
For the shadow rend build on maxroll. What is the purpose of speccing the shadwo cascade, unbrial blades and trap? Are'nt you only spamming smoke bomb and shadow rend?

[naive saddle]

It's for single-target

Do peps even play the maxroll rend one? Most folks I see are using the physical variant

[tired hinge]

which is that, got a link ?

[naive saddle]

Same link, if you go under variants on MR it's the umbral recall one

[prime crypt]

How are people reaching 10K corruption? How do they avoid getting one-shotted by the Shade?

[naive saddle]

You bomb on the oneshots and kite the rest

Bomb gives you silver shrouds for the annoying stuff

[prime crypt]

and with shadow rend?

[naive saddle]

I'm on 4800 right now and it works well where the hits are cca. 250k

Don't see why it wouldn't higher as well

Yeah that's with shadow rend

[prime crypt]

what do you mean bomb?

[naive saddle]

smoke bomb

[prime crypt]

ah so you have to time the one-shots ... it's too quick/havoc for me :/

[naive saddle]

I'm online if you want to check it out

[prime crypt]

cool thanks

[pearl forge]

btw did the uberroth video already if anyone wants to check it out

it is kinda fast even with shitty 1lp and no good corruption slams

[flint turret]

Lm or what?

[pearl forge]

yea

[flint turret]

Link it

[pearl forge]

https://youtu.be/aiJD7Cl1dgs

i also updated the guide but tbh my gear kinda sucks apart from the rings that you can get not super hard tbh as they drop like candy

and i want to change idols to at least fit 2 offensive ones

[pearl forge]

can you use ruined items to reroll lp?

[flint turret]

why no doom?

[pearl forge]

they changed the belt

only does more to void dmg now

[flint turret]

yes but they diodnt change ring or boots

[pearl forge]

those are still worse than raw stats

[flint turret]

how 16% more damage is worse than 20 dex

[pearl forge]

i also get dmg from the strenght thx to brutality and the % inc dmg from dex is big

and they are also super good defensively

[flint turret]

you can slam dex on siphon as well

[pearl forge]

and well ring gives tons of stats

apart from only dmg

[flint turret]

why death door passive?

[potent rune]

Siphon is always worth for any melee build kinda too good

[pearl forge]

i kinda like the extra stats on the othe ring but yea it is very good just a bit worse defensively and yea death's door is to help with 1 taps

[flint turret]

outlaner tenacity should be better against 1-taps

[pearl forge]

not really i already have my whole life as endurance

from foot

[flint turret]

thats only when you are not moving

i havent seen you staying still at uber at all

[pearl forge]

usually if i get hit is when im using abilities and foot is active

but now that you say that is not a bad idea for when i get more life

can also get more dex

i still have lots of gearing to do siphon maybe if i manage to get a good 2lp slam and corrupt i will also change 1 ring

basically im running what 1lps i got in like 3 days of playing

and the rings i spam coprrupted then bough the other

[flint turret]

also im not sure about gloves primo

i dont really see you having 8 shadows

[pearl forge]

every time i shift i have 8 shadows

if i do the combo right of course

if i dont i misplayed

[flint turret]

yeah nwm i do see you having 8 shadows pretty often i guess im blind

[topaz forge]

Can someone please explain to me why the bladestorm leveling build specs shadow cascade but does not have it on the skill bar?

[pearl forge]

it procs from other skills

lots of skills have cascade proc like rend or shift

or dancing strikes etc

[topaz forge]

oh i see. I was looking in the skill trees and didn't see anything that procs it

[serene crane]

Maybe they just take it so they can use it later with something

[topaz forge]

nah Hachadino is right I just found a couple skills that proc it

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost I actually found this beast in my pile of trash in stash 😄

[pearl forge]

man using all my temporal keystones and eyes for aberroth is zzzzzzzz

[serene crane]

haha alright we're onto something here 😄

[desert bridge]

I was thinking of wildfire cinder strike with all the burning daggers

[ebon jungle]

how quick is that beast dying with so many ignites

[serene crane]

My gear is pretty (hot, ba dum tss) garbage, no slammed at all, I just put it on to try how it works 😄 damage is there, just need to make sure I survive... 😄

Im not sure If I want t7 recurve or +4 Hs on the chest... probably recurve and hope it also hits t5 Hs

[ebon jungle]

what corruption so far

[serene crane]

Only 100-300, didnt bother with it too much 😄

[steady cypress]

Hi @rain cedar how do you think about the self-throw acid flask falconer interacting with bladestorm in this season?

I think it might not be S tier like season 3 but it is still A-B tier

[serene crane]

amu has 54% mana regen and 11% ele damage; quiver is 0LP with shuri corruption 😄 everything except the belt and boots is 3LP tho... but I might take good ol' trusty Ashes of Mortality for some extra ward

[serene crane]

It works pretty nicely for anything with Ignite so far, even ignite DS 😄

[ebon jungle]

the rings

[serene crane]

Yea its only ignite chance and fire damage 😄

eh, when I think about it, some decently rolled exalted ring would've been just better.. 😄

[desert bridge]

I might have to give it a shot, cinder strike gets A LOT of fire resist from oil coating

[serene crane]

overall the right side of CS is sweet

[serene crane]

Harbringer of BBQ

[serene crane]

After some proper defenses and damage, its pretty good 😄

[topaz forge]

For the shuriken bladestorm bladedancer build what are most important uniques/legendaries? what Should I prioritize farming for first?
And is there anything that is mandatory or HEAVILY recommended?

[serene crane]

Astral Blood, Tongue for offhand, Peak for crit... rest is either just damage or defenses

[topaz forge]

gotcha thanks. I guess dagger prophecies for me then

[upper vale]

I want to play, but can't decide on a build.
Any offmeta sugestion?

[sour salmon]

i'm running this chest with this build https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BM6xGGMN
the question is How can I sustain my potion during boss fight?

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 67

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (15) / Falconer (40)

General:

▸ Health: 1,097, Regen: 34.61/s
▸ Mana: 125.84, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 83%, Regen: 11/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 55 Dex / 40 Int / 21 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 10% / 10% / 10% / 46% / 10% / 37% / 42%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 285
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (756)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (774)
▸ Block Chance: 1%, Mitigation: 11% (44)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

Used skills:

Acid Flask / Shift / Falconry / Bladestorm / Smoke Bomb

[wraith nacelle]

Well time to hunt for the 1 in 3.7k 3lp morning frost

[dusk rose]

would've loved it if that movement is at max tho lmao

that 7% is kinda night and day tbh

[wraith nacelle]

cant beg on a 3 exalt that had low fp unfortunately

[dusk rose]

[wraith nacelle]

at least in map right now with a 30% boot role im at 104% ms so losing a few percent wouldn't be that bad

[naive saddle]

@kind atlas I'm comparing your recent shade vs. 4000c echo setup. I saw you respecced shift to be less AOE focused but didn't use it in the shade kill, was that an oversight?

[kind atlas]

The 4000 was completely different build, melee shadow cascade. The one shot shade is umbral recall for one shot stuff, but can do mapping too with throwing shadow cascade

[buoyant roost]

not bad 😄 im using similar. Im thinking lightning though 😮

[serene crane]

Yea should work quite nicely with crits and that lightning quiver maybe

even tho it only adds flat lightning throw dmg, so it doesnt reallydo much... 😄

[buoyant roost]

yes, quiver optional. im looking for some other items. static shell for example

[serene crane]

Yea should be good, Oceareon is also easy pick; maybe Reliquary nest to boost some of the lightning shuri idols

with Misery we were wondering if Deto Arrow could be good with the lightning quiver or If spamming Hs to proc so many shuri shields is just way better... I nominate you to try 😄

you could theoretically still use the Ember primo amulet tho with fire Hs just to get extra procs, but idk about that 😄

[buoyant roost]

shouldn't this be decent as well?

[serene crane]

Oh yea, for sure 😄

[wary cedar]

i play new heartseeker now

[serene crane]

I guess primo slot should be free then, so I guess there is a lot of options... this on belt sounds like ezpz crit cap 😄

[serene crane]

Which one?

[wary cedar]

3 skills only heartseeker

i just dont know what skills i should pick for the 2 left

[serene crane]

Decoy is kinda free then

[wary cedar]

i dont see the value, can use it without skilling it

[serene crane]

Its just free dodge+crit multi

[wary cedar]

on a 14sec cooldown

[serene crane]

Last night I specced out of Dark Quiver with the Hs node that had a chance to summon them... and I guess my game memory bugged and even without the nodes I kept spawning dark arrows, maybe thats the big play 😄

[serene crane]

which means you dont have to press it that often 😄

[buoyant roost]

I got this, but t5 only sadly 🙁

[buoyant roost]

XD interesting haha

[buoyant roost]

Snapshotting skills I see XD

[serene crane]

Looks good looks good 😄 Fury would be the dream, that attack speed there feels so good

[serene crane]

Officer, it was honest mistake caused by the system...

[serene crane]

oh t8 experimental Frenzy on boots can get you 90-100% inc effect of Frenzy... would be insane with Shattered Words aswell

[naive saddle]

Jesus, those go to T8

I never considered it.

[serene crane]

I guess on exalted bow you could make t7 speed/hybrid crit+speed into t8 and then corrupt it and super gamble for shuriken? If thats possible... but sounds expensive af 😄

[wooden lava]

So why exactly is heartseeker ranked higher than multishot? I had some middling gear for multishot and I decided to build a pretty good setup for heartseeker (2 lp minimum t7 slams with good affixes on everything) and I found it to be just a mid if not worse in most cases than multishot with worse gear.

[serene crane]

oh, damn...?

[wooden lava]

It can screen clear, sure, but it's boss damage is pretty much on par with multishot from what I played. And that was with much better gear for HS than MS

[wary cedar]

🎣

[serene crane]

Well If only it didnt take the primo slot on body...

[wary cedar]

i think recurve chance is in general a bait

[serene crane]

No idea really about Multishot, but Hs with icicle/shuriken corruptions is just 10/10

[serene crane]

I think at some point the scaling drops off a lot? There used to be a graph for it some time ago

[wary cedar]

yup, and you get all you need from hs nodes and the idols

[wooden lava]

Honestly, I'm not trying to grind this game until my fingers bleed. I'm sure the damage COULD theoretically be better with incredible 4lp/corruptions but that is so far beyond the amount of grind I'd ever put into this

Where I'm currently at, both builds just seem insanely worse than shadows but I'd rather play with a bow

[serene crane]

You dont need 4lp with corruptions tho? bow/quiver with either exalted stats and corruption or 0LP with corruption alone is already a great start

[wooden lava]

Hats off to the gambling addicts that play this game. I tried no lifing this season since the start and I can't imagine what it would take to get to the upper limits of some builds

Corruptions have been very mid or worthless out of the ~150 I've used across decent gear 🤷‍♂️

[wooden lava]

The ONLY good corruption I've gotten was a t5 crit/AS on a drelkors. I actually can't even think of another noteworthy corruption all season. I could tell you many times that bricked items, though.

[serene crane]

38s Uberroth with Hs and thrown shurikens blade shield, If you manage your defenses you can play this pretty much fine with 1LP and 0LP bow/quiver with the corruption on the bow and quiver that can drop all the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fke-ocE7DG8

[wary cedar]

some good corruptins i got

[wary cedar]

this is a zhp build sir

[serene crane]

Well, and? 😄 different pieces and its not zph anymore with still good damage

[wary cedar]

i m still going insane trying to hit the corrptions tho

[serene crane]

Getting the only one corruption you want on slammed unique definitely sucks, but thats just endgame gambling for you, same thing in PoE aswell

the shuriken one could be a lil bit more common, ngl

[wary cedar]

my problem is getting exalted for slamming

[steady cypress]

nice. I wonder how does it compared to shuriken proc by bladestorm bladedancer

[serene crane]

Not sure, but this melee shuriken with Hs is super fun... buuut its melee so it can be quite rippy 😄

[steady cypress]

HS?

[serene crane]

Heartseeker

everytime it recurves and crits, it has the chance to proc the shuriken corruption

[steady cypress]

well at least I have not seen any shuriken bladedancer killed uberroth with this speed

so quite hard to tell which is better

[serene crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecx_4HNsfPM&t=1s

its also with pre 1.4 gear and stuff

[buoyant roost]

his gear is insane though

just 2 red rings Lp1 are crazy 😄

and 2x LP3 tongues

not to mention T7s slams 😄

probably MG

[serene crane]

Yea SMK has crazy gear, but most of it is fairy doable I'd say

during 1.2 I got quite a lot of Red Rings from reprints, its just getting lucky with LP... 😄

[serene crane]

Heartseeker with Carrion of Creation and Shuriken shield could do some funny numbers 🤔

[wary cedar]

Olvrin is typing

[serene crane]

yall better be scared

[flint turret]

this is getting silly, i have like 20+ nihilis and all are terrible while i got 2 close to max rolled 1lp sharttered and medium 2lp shattered

[wary cedar]

i m only scared of yo mama

[flint turret]

only 5 out of 20+ nihilis is +2 skills

cmon man

[serene crane]

You could always get lucky with max roll corruption

[flint turret]

i cant really waste all havocs on em i need shuri corruptions

[serene crane]

Yeah... my patience with Havocs is almost at 0

[flint turret]

optimized super budget cascade rend a bit, now its 2min uber with set items and 1lps https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjqdYyPv

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (77) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,537, Regen: 19.72/s
▸ Mana: 226.5, Regen: 9.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 6 Dex / 2 Int / 10 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 73% / 74% / 131% / 28% / 30% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 961
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (386)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,284)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Explosive Trap

[ebon jungle]

isnt that rather insane?

double t7

[steady cypress]

hmm

maxroll also has one triggered by bladestorm

seems the above is not as fast as you in killing uber

[serene crane]

Surely the altar can be a lot better, no? 🤔

[steady cypress]

is it due to the shuriken proc rate?

[serene crane]

Idk about other Hs-Shuriken build, but I could fit Bladestorm in my ignite one.. I got plenty of mana regen so its some ezpz dps

[steady cypress]

it's bladestorm proc, not HS

[serene crane]

You can get hit rate on Bladestorm and then it hits whenever Cascade hits the bladestorm

If thats what you mean 😄

[steady cypress]

ah ok

so the strength of the build depends on shuriken proc rate, right?

[serene crane]

Pretty much, its stacking throw damage everywhere while Dancing Strikes give you the global damage and stuff from Rhytm stacks