🔪┃rogue

[serene crane]

ngl doenst look good... 😄

[lyric smelt]

am using Bin's filter

pretty good

[stray tangle]

I don’t understand not making your own filter in LE

It’s incredibly intuitive

[lyric smelt]

preset is better

adjust ur own later

[half oxide]

Because at the moment I want to play the game and not mess around with the filter

when I get more used to the mechanics, game and stuf ill eventually do my own

[stray tangle]

At that point just don’t use a filter

You’re using 1/3 of a set with a filter that bans set items

[serene crane]

Rules in the order:

• show gear with t7 affixes you want for your build; recolor + capitalize (like +lvl to your skill, whatever effect to your skill like Heartseeker recurve, cooldown reduction, bow crit+attack speed, etc.)
• show gear with t6 affixes you want for your build; recolor
• show exalted items with 2x t6 or higher (might show a lot of crap, but still; can copy and capitalize and set it to double t7)
• show Personal affixes with exalted rarity (not all of them are important, but nice to possibly get some Mirgae gloves just in case)
• show affix hybrid life; recolor (can copy this and set it only to t7 + capitalize)
• show class idol with selected affixes you want for your build; set number of affixes to two; capitalize (and recolor)
• show class idol with affixes you want but only one affix (and recolor)
• show gear for non-rogue classes with t7 affixes (just tick all the classes and their affixes, can shatter those in case you'd like to play another class)
• recolor unique items with 3LP (just copy this and adjust it however you want, like capitalize for 4LP, wont happen often but you wont miss it then)
• (optional) hide set items for non-rogue
• hide every idol (set corruption to none)
• hide every armor, weapon, accessory for common, magic, rare, exalted

takes like 10minutes to set, 15 tops

[stray tangle]

This is great advice

[serene crane]

could also hide all altars and then only show the ones with increased effect of prefixes/suffixes and like t3+... a lot of the altars are just crap

Hiding most uniques is also pretty bad since you can get a lot of 0LP uniques you actually use for your build and just throw them into Nemesis egg for LP chance => either slam 1LP and possibly gamble with corrupt or turtle gamble for 2LP+

[half oxide]

thanks, should I take this in to consideration then?

[serene crane]

Surely you can make the filter a lot better, I also recolor items with t6 rogue affixes just to shatter/removal them to keep up with enough shards for crafting... some other things to make it better for sure, Im not any great at lootfilters either

[serene crane]

Yea the offensive stats for sure, not everything exists as affix (like "cold resistance shred") and the defensive stats is something you just collect on the way

[half oxide]

so something like this eventually?

[serene crane]

Yea, the items dont have to be corrupted, can just skip that and it will show both versions

[naive saddle]

Any boss rotation advice for shadow rend with umbral (the shift variant)?

[serene crane]

I'd start from the bottom and slowly add rules on top.. you can always try if the filter works by dropping item affected by the rule on the ground If it either stays visible and somehow changes (if you changed colors, size, etc) or wont be visible at all (I think default keybutton to temporary disable loot filter is "x" but better check the settings)

[serene crane]

Drop smoke bomb => spam rend => spawn bunch of shadows for them to spawn Umbrals => when boss appears just shift to hit the boss hard with recalled umbrals => repeat; might wait a bit for Smoke cooldown

[naive saddle]

I'm cycling through watching the flow debuff primarily. Is the shift usage umbral umbral shift umbral or does shift snapshot the entire combo cycle?

Gets really tedious with high attack speed and fps jitters.

[serene crane]

Or just this without the Shift recall for one
#🔪┃rogue message

[naive saddle]

Yeah I'm using 5-flow

[serene crane]

Shift before the manual Umbral recall

[naive saddle]

Makes sense, I guess I wasn't spamming rend between waiting for shift and usually dropped stacks.

It's easy to tunnel vision watching all the buffs.

[serene crane]

I guess I'll have to gear up the silly build too... 😄

[buoyant roost]

you know what. I think shadow rend with tabi is like dancing strikes on steroids

Sorry I meant Syncrhonized strike

[serene crane]

Pretty much 😄

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane how much attack speed would you say is "good enough" for rend

need moar?

[wary cedar]

MOAR

[serene crane]

I have 187% on the ignite one and 166% on the bleed one 😄 so anything between 150-200% is fine

but...

[buoyant roost]

no butts

im also honestly thinking whethe rTrueSight glass is worth of a n item

[serene crane]

how about this

[wary cedar]

i have close to 200

[buoyant roost]

Mosquito on speed?

[serene crane]

I just wanted to see how much attack speed I could possibly get...
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkY52GLa

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (72) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 1,310, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 116.51, Regen: 0/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 25/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 96 Dex / 8 Int / 8 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 5% / 5% / 29% / 44% / 5% / 31% / 60%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 262
▸ Dodge Chance: 41% (1453)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (601)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 22%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Flurry / Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb

[buoyant roost]

I guess it would be fun 😄

[wary cedar]

i wish you could make an actual build out of this

[serene crane]

I guess Frenzy corruption on Shattered Words isnt needed since the helmet also gives you perma one, but its whatever 😄 the gear is annoying to get maxxed out anyway

Almost half of the Smoke tree is just useless...

[serene crane]

Hows even your crit chance on that build? 🤔

[buoyant roost]

I have it around 140%

but thats what im thinkin whether its worth it tbh

[wary cedar]

Spoiler: It's not

[buoyant roost]

those "orange crits" dont seem that great. btw broke my glass with corruption

[wary cedar]

maybe if the crit wouldnt be capped at 140%

[buoyant roost]

I think so too. 300% another cirt multi, on top of my 600....

[serene crane]

Yea idk, If the bonus would be like a triple of your own crit multi... that would be great

[wary cedar]

biggest problem is just that it takes primo slot
as a normal item it owuld be fine i guess xd

[buoyant roost]

yes indeed @wary cedar . there's so many other primal optiosn

[serene crane]

Overall the stats on Glass are quite great, but getting to 140% crit chance... at that point you can get skill points elsehwere and crit multi on gear/idols 😄

Why isnt there any Primordial unique sword/axe/2h sword? 💀

[wary cedar]

future updates

for sure

🧢

[serene crane]

Yea together with Flurry rework

[wary cedar]

i hate to be hating here, but content updates are really smol lmao

[wary cedar]

that being said, flurry rework will most likley occupai an entire Season content

[serene crane]

A lot of skills could use some new stuff, changes, updates... then there is bladedancer's entire skill missing... 😄

[buoyant roost]

I hope so tehy get to revamp the older skills

cinder strike wohooo. all over the place, doing nothing in all instances 😄

[serene crane]

And the updates well... 1.2 was big... 1.3 could've had some kind of two factions to choose from - Beast Hunters / Protectors and 1.3 could've had a smaller faction similar to Woven tree that could either affect your maps/loot and class with the skills from other classes... but Im not a game dev so what do I know

[wary cedar]

each season having kinda few content would be excusable if the game would be bugfree for the most parts

but idk how they developed the game, maybe it's spaghetti code like league lol

[buoyant roost]

will see whether krapton will help 😄

[wary cedar]

wasnt they bought off from Tencent before?

why did it change

did daddy Tencent drop LE? 😔

[buoyant roost]

maybe. didnt hear about tencent

[serene crane]

No idea... I guess the game code is mostly fine, just the development is slower and there'll always be cool ideas what could've been done for each league... also on top of reworking skills, some people probably already work on next leagues or even the expansion with the new class, which means... less people probably working on the current skills

[wary cedar]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/eleventh-hour-games-new-partnership/48083

and i mean the news from krafton don't read that bad, since they wont interfere with game desgin and stuff

[serene crane]

Just keep the content going without like 6months+ breaks and horde of bugs everywhere

I dont mind shop items to swipe the credit card for something fancy, unless that would be only new updates for the game 💀

[buoyant roost]

for me personally, the timing is more or less okay. but what I think the game needs is patches inbetween

so some changes, buffing mostly, changing few nodes here and there.

I usually play for a month after season, and when I finish theres no reason to come back. With patches I think this could spark interest

[wary cedar]

or play a different game

[serene crane]

You mean like hardcore SSF?

[wary cedar]

i bought Runescape Dragonwilds a few weeks ago still have to play it

also i still havent finished elden ring

i also bought pokopia

so many games man...

[serene crane]

Peak Elden Ring... you better play the dlc aswell... I still need to get to Nightreign sometimes...

[wary cedar]

yesterday i continued my old character from half a year ago

i was right before godrick

i forgott all keybinds

[buoyant roost]

I used to be pvp player, spend my life in dota2 😄 played a lot of apex as well. But now im 42, I just want to enjoy some arpgs 😄

[serene crane]

Just get a controller tbh...

[wary cedar]

i played it with

i dont usually play with controller

so i pressed the wrong buttons all the time lmao

but after like 4hrs playing i beat godrick/lunala or how she is called/and dragonic sentinel to entere the city

[serene crane]

I think some time ago someone from EHG said they dont want to do some balance updates during the league... but idk, would be a great thing to do unless it would be some giga nerf of something into the ground

[buoyant roost]

I know, but this was before the patches were so far inbetween

[serene crane]

Yea, sadly we dont have the season frequency like PoE has, but tbh thats a lot to even ask for 😄

[buoyant roost]

ookay

[buoyant roost]

maybe its for the better 😄 but even with this pace, LE in say 2 years will have a lot of stuff to do

and with expansion, I think they will introduce a lot more stuff

[white knoll]

not bad

[serene crane]

Yea absolutely 😄 one of the biggest points in my opinion is how LE is like the golden middle ground between PoE/Diablo/Grim Dawn

[ebon jungle]

just rolled over a 3lp brewmaster belt REEE

[serene crane]

actually insane ring, damn

[serene crane]

I kinda forgot the xpansion trailer completly, but maybe some factions to choose between going the void path where you could convert your skills to void to use some boosted void items or like a cleanse path with boosted damage of your skills/loot... something like that 😄

[flint turret]

It does work for each skill individually

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane send me a link to one of your rend builds. any. I somehow lost them

[buoyant roost]

I see you like RPG in your ARPGS 😄

[white knoll]

welp

this was problem in 1shots in group

i had this node which cucked my multi

[serene crane]

Bleed, I just swapped to Shift UB recall instead of traps for a bit of mapping
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oR6qXgb2
purely physical Rend but for Shadow Daggers mainly
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXz3W7J6
Ignite Rend
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ37OYzX

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (83) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 1,816, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 156.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 36%, Regen: 70/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 26 Dex / 18 Int / 18 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 106% / 118% / 110% / 110% / 88% / 73% / 136%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 39%, Threshold: 363
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (720)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (994)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Shift / Smoke Bomb

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (79) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,027, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 164.51, Regen: 11.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 49%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 53 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 141% / 68% / 130% / 141% / 46% / 85% / 131%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 405
▸ Dodge Chance: 26% (900)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,074)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 23%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 68%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Shift

Bladedancer, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (75) / Marksman (10) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,600, Regen: 19.58/s
▸ Mana: 144.99, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 70/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 27 Dex / 7 Int / 2 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 248% / 161% / 111% / 91% / 72% / 83% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 320
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (315)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (778)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shift

[serene crane]

whoops, lil spam

[buoyant roost]

haha. thanks. so lets say this shadow dagger one. how do you survive 😄

[serene crane]

Its pretty much save as everything else... spam Rend for ward and nearly capped dodge, Perfection for armor aswell, blind

[serene crane]

Extra shadows and attack speed, spam Rend, chance to resummon shadows... you can greed with t7 ward on shadow creation on helmet+body, two nodes in Rend tree (and idols but thats just so little; optionally some other items like Ashes ring in the ignite one) and sit at like 7-11k ward... it doesnt last long but since you're spamming Rend most of the time its whatever... and If you go with Shift+UB recall, thats like 2-4k ward hit too... you either die by getting stunned = just kill them faster... or you werent attacking and got jumped 😄

[white knoll]

Man I can't even test my dmg in group uber cause no one wanna do it XD

[buoyant roost]

that would not be enough. but the main way you survive is actually not being in the "heat". 😄 that's the biggest advantage of shadow rend. you are melee but range. with my current seupt on fire cascade, I have to get close, which is devastating sometimes. I think I will go to rend, instead of Syncronized (although I prefer it to play with)

[serene crane]

You can stand still, might see your ward completly disappear and then its back again 😄

In Omen's Veil you can move around a bit with Shift since its kinda better, but also stand still and just aoe the screen in every direction

[buoyant roost]

yes, but the main thing is that you "attack" basically on range. and rogue is not good for this, because armor

[serene crane]

With Perfection I get to 36%... thats pretty much okay with so much stuff around anyway 😄

[buoyant roost]

yes, but try stacking shroud/perfection without rend 😄 with cinder or cascade

[serene crane]

You asked for Rend tho? 😄

[buoyant roost]

yes, because I was interested in the defensive things. but as I realised, the main advantage is actually being sort of a ranged char

[serene crane]

You drop the ranged nodes in Rend and swap off Tabi for mapping and you're zooming around... bit less damage, but you're permanently moving and more in the melee range

Survivability in Cinder Strike... idk, you can stack Dusk and Perfection with good attack speed, but you dont really move as you'd be with Dancing Strikes so you get the damage reduction from Evasion in Rogue and Argentus

[buoyant roost]

Wings of Discord is very good in general. for now I'm sticking to it

[wary cedar]

Wings of Discord Gang 🤝

[serene crane]

What is just sad is the Shuriken shield change, it was just so nice to have doubled while moving with Dancing Strikes

[buoyant roost]

yes 🙁 that is sad. Nobody will use that node now. who the heck wants to cast shurikens like that? 😄

btw this

that alone we cannot reach 😄

as rogues

[ebon jungle]

like bow down to me guys im just a god

first time ring hunting the first proph proc ez

basically the two rarest unique rings first proc just no biggie

and red ring is 1lp

[wary cedar]

corrupt it

[ebon jungle]

jealous because yours is bad l0l

[wary cedar]

🤨

i dont even want red rings anymore

[ebon jungle]

i was gonna clown you but

your red ring is actually corrupted

shit

[wary cedar]

bro, i m corrupting everything i get the moment i get it

[serene crane]

According to 1.4 patchnote, you can stack the shield now... idk, maybe you could do something with it tbh... Ive tried it with chakram for a bit and having 3 chakrams spinning around you looked pretty funny 😄

[ebon jungle]

i now have like 15 3lp ones

[heavy canopy]

Any1 played bladedancer end game build with the primordial unique with ward etc and the shuriken build. I was wondering what kind of ward people have when they get abit into end game.

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost also check this, looks like a very fun build to try 😄
#🔪┃rogue message

[ebon jungle]

another one

[buoyant roost]

Interesting. This is similiar to my season starter, where shuriken is the main damage dealer. this is weirder for sure 😄 black arrow use is wtf

[serene crane]

I guess you should be at like 2500-3000 health at that point, If not higher, some numbers here and there, so around 6k ward with good rolled Astral Blood and t7 experimental on gloves

[serene crane]

Yea I'd just go with Bladestorm for extra spinny things 😄

[serene crane]

egg, LP, right into the turtle machine

[ebon jungle]

52 poison res in to max stat corruption

best way to farm quivers BESIDES prophecy

favors dont come rapidly and in big numbers

[buoyant roost]

the echo that can spawn quiver rewards 🙂

[white knoll]

Finally I did it group uber semi 1 frame

[buoyant roost]

wait there isnt one ? wth

[ebon jungle]

does a specific timeline spawn them more often?

[serene crane]

Fall of the Outcast for bow/quiver echo rewards; can run those together with chance to double echo rewards in weaver tree and imprint the quiver in weaver tree aswell, depends on the rarity of the item but the more common uniques drop quite often and sometimes in like 2-3 copies

[ebon jungle]

Yeah i dont care about uniques at this point I just want to be able to 3lp slam my quivers n corrupt

If i get shurikens(i more want the global crit) i can then change my setup drastically

and more than likely improve my damage immensily

ill hover around outcasts n see if they spawn more often there ty

[buoyant roost]

also dont forget to imprint

[serene crane]

Right, my bad 😄 they should still spawn there and in the echo reward it should say something like "exalted bows/quivers" etc

[ebon jungle]

i love how youre kind enough to point out what their name is

nevermind my last 300 hours past 2 weeks or some shit 😂 or my 2 lvl 100, 1 lvl 88 character

"i must of missed those nodes"

[pliant orbit]

if I got Apostacy allocated, can I still dodge with a Silver Shroud? Or does having one just put my glacing blow chance to 100%

[ebon jungle]

my understanding is that its dodging period

[serene crane]

dw I'll charge you later with some chonky paypall link

[pliant orbit]

In other words a Silver Shroud will bypass Apostacy. Yeah?

[buoyant roost]

silver always dodges

[raven wave]

already so bored of having to farm havocs, the fact u can use one and the t7 might not even change is absurd

they gotta address it at some point, such a bottleneck in a great crafting system

[serene crane]

while it eats 23 FP

[wary cedar]

havocs being the second rarest rune is crazy yes

especially with the imprint nerfs, we dont have that many multi exalted anymore, hence we need less redemption runes

[serene crane]

Redeption... I'd rather gamble with corruptin set items, probably higher chance of getting something good that hitting good 3xT6+

[outer comet]

FWIW, I have roughly 4800-4900 ward. I do not have the glove experimental. Health pool is running at around 3250 max. I have a lot of +health% on items and idols.

[ebon jungle]

<are these what youre looking for?

gotta corrupt it

[bitter prism]

thou shall not forget to put a weaver affix onto it first

[small fjord]

Has anyone done some Dex stacking with Pillager's Hydra?
Just wondering how it feels and if an evade spam build works well.
I was specifically thinking something like Shadow Rend or Detonating Arrow.

[dull wren]

somebady plaing explsosive umbrale blade falconer =? can somybody tel me if its is good for mapping =

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost 2nd try

[outer comet]

Doing a low life Dancing Strikes/Bladestorm/Shurikens/Shadow Cascade build. Just wondering if there's any major suggestions left for this outside of some slam numbers. I changed the boots to Vaion's instead of Razorfall for the movement speed damage% increase, and instead of the usual rings, I put together 2 LP4 Quicksilvers (they were pretty cheap compared to other rings) for melee attack speed and movement speed increases. I'm only thinking maybe a T7 experimental ward on the gloves as the major thing I want to try to switch too. Build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9J4gXkn

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (26) / Bladedancer (69) / Marksman (18)

General:

▸ Health: 3,238, Regen: 41.8/s
▸ Mana: 266.51, Regen: 16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 1/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 38 Dex / 10 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 84% / 80% / 167% / 96% / 76% / 106%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 648
▸ Dodge Chance: 20% (675)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 13% (391)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 12%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Bladestorm / Shadow Cascade / Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb

[ebon jungle]

lol

best lineage ive had by far

[ebon jungle]

I gotta do the boring part of farming specific quivers

so i can corrupt

[soft mauve]

i love global

[plain flume]

🤔 Last Nomad, Siphon of Anguish or Crafted Ring to Shadow Cascade Bladedancer

[ebon jungle]

I get them shivers cuz i need them quivers

[ebon jungle]

bunch of morons

they cant comprehend each game dellivers their own type of gameplay with pretty much the same endgame goal across all

everything must be a comparison

[soft mauve]

we got a d4 enjoyer pepelaugh

[ebon jungle]

Bought d4, played till max level and yeeted that crap out

Slop i tell you

[desert bridge]

I tried to go back and do a 'no story' run, and gotta say I think people who want campaign skip are wrong. It's so boring/directionless without campaign.

[half oxide]

Not really

It's a more casual game but still has it's intricacy

[quartz gust]

I bought it twice, played it for about an hour each time and refunded it both times

Gameplay was boring af

[hearty leaf]

whats best Hc rogue mapping build? anyone?

[buoyant roost]

nice 😄 . which tier is that

[serene crane]

t7, it says right there 😄 only the weapon itself isnt maxxed out

[buoyant roost]

i mean the corrupted fix

affix

[serene crane]

Max rolled t7 😄 Or I dont get what you mean... I feel more dumb today than usual 😄

[ebon jungle]

actual cancer crafting this shit

[serene crane]

And then you corrupt it and it removes the affixes

[buoyant roost]

your corrupted affix with frenzy. is it T7?

because I can only see the tier of the "normal" prefix

[serene crane]

Yea its part of that affix

[manic wave]

hello i have a question -- i'm playing bladestorm bladedancer this season and i got a corruption on my amulet nihilis that vitality is converted into rampancy (i do have shattered worlds with 90% increased effect on frenzy but i dont use it yet) , is this a good corruption for me or not and if so why

[buoyant roost]

how much vitality you have

[manic wave]

19

[wary cedar]

67

😂 😂 😂

[manic wave]

but i have also another red ring that i can use so i can have more

[buoyant roost]

it's a tradeoff honestly. if you feel you can sruvive without that vitality, sure

[manic wave]

i have 3k hp and almost 7k ward when out of combat with that rampancy

[buoyant roost]

and what is your main damage skill

bladestorm?

or shuriken behind it. because bladestorm does not benefit from frenzy (I think?)

[manic wave]

i'm playing bladestorm shurikens

[outer comet]

If I'm remembering this correctly, and I could very well be wrong, Frenzy doesn't help with damage ticks on Bladestorm itself, but could benefit Shurikens that Bladestorm triggers.

[buoyant roost]

ye, I think so too

[ornate dust]

GO BACK TO SLEEP UBEROTH

[buoyant roost]

balanced 😄

[ebon jungle]

sending last epoch to the shadow realm

[tawny spoke]

wat woven echo should i imprint]

for farming stuff for rogue

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane https://youtu.be/gmVkh0ppzZQ not bad.'

[tawny spoke]

wtf is that

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane and now the shadow rend version (hopefully not blocked becuase of song) https://youtu.be/cmtf-6lvZmU

powercreep at its best 😄

[ebon jungle]

619 crit multi

for throw kek

[rose shell]

hey guys, Warpath 1 trick turned rogue here

i'm trying to shadow rend build and it needs set items the guide says

do i have to farm the sets and then salvage them in the woven echo to then place them on my gear for it to work?

[violet trellis]

Yup exactly

Can then add them as prefixes to armour

[light tendon]

why cant I rune of Ascendance "Nest of Nightmares" unique?

wiki says ~18%. Ive done at least 25-30 Ascendances

• another ~15.... Feel like I'm doing the wrong base, or i-lvl or something

[half nova]

i level doesnt matter

[light tendon]

wiki wrong then, or website is wrong

[half nova]

im assuming you are doing it on 1h maces?

[light tendon]

ye. just got one. took probably 50 tries tho

[half nova]

50 tries? were there that many renegade's will

[light tendon]

there were about ~6 of those iirc

like 20 Arek's Bones

[kind adder]

What the hell is this monstrosity

[atomic remnant]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/immortal-stone-rend-cascade-bladedancer

[sharp raven]

Immortal Stone Rend Cascade Bladedancer Build Guide

Game Version

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class

Rogue / Bladedancer

Used skills

• Shadow Cascade
• Shift
• Umbral Blades
• Shadow Rend
• Synchronized Strike

Used unique items

• Doppelganger's Facade
• Null Portent
• Eye of Reen
• Traitor's Tongue
• Falcon Fists
• Brewmaster's Buckle
• Army of Skin
• Carcinization of Momentum
• Siphon of Anguish
• Blossom of Immortal Stone
• Doppelganger's Mimicry

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Melee / Ranged

Created by TheDarkOmen · Apr 2, 2026, 2:37 PM

[atomic remnant]

I highly recommend this version of shadow rend instead of the Maxroll one. Gearing was very easy and enjoyable for me as a relatively new player.

The build is very straight forward. And It's so cool not having to worry about slaming 3 if your gear pieces. Use set item prophecies and corrupt extra copies until max rolled stats on all 3 pieces. It's enough for doing Uberroth.

Video guide for those who hate reading : https://youtu.be/pKolT7NNKZk?si=Q8inrA1tN_DCIF3I

Uberroth kill : https://youtu.be/N_CDpFPL_Zw?si=x66heqdMxfV_M4Gy

[serene crane]

Yeah with Rend it just gets pretty stupid... 😄

[tawny spoke]

Yo what echo should I imprint

[serene crane]

Lostwood Folly and whatver you like, probably Nemesis tower

[naive saddle]

Doppelganger set is also very strong as-is until you got the bases to craft on

[tawny spoke]

whats the best way to utilize nem

[buoyant roost]

do you think with ward per shadow i could have a chance with uber

[pearl forge]

tbh with new power lvl any build can do uber

[buoyant roost]

utilize? like farm?

[pearl forge]

just dont expect to tank triple flail that easily

[buoyant roost]

any is a bit of a stretch 😁

try cinder strike anything 😁

[pearl forge]

not really corruptions are very strong

you could do cinder combos likely and get it down

just no one bothers

as rogue we are lucky because flow enables lots of silly things to work

[buoyant roost]

hardly tbh. some skills just dont have oomph. flurry for example

[pearl forge]

i mean i only really care about LM but i know other skills also have the potential

just wont care to minx max those

maybe i update the guide today and on the weekend do the uberroth update

[buoyant roost]

for lm?

bbc?

[pearl forge]

yea last one i have up is still 300 corru

but i m already at 750 and with better gear

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqwvP2zk still have lots of shitty gear and bad set items

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 97

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (33) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,770, Regen: 30.73/s
▸ Mana: 241.99, Regen: 14.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 96%, Regen: 57/s
▸ Attributes: 47 Str / 165 Dex / 42 Int / 49 Att / 48 Vit
▸ Resistances: 73% / 155% / 128% / 102% / 203% / 86% / 130%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 554
▸ Dodge Chance: 45% (1608)
▸ Armor Mitigation: -4% (-61)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 49%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Lethal Mirage / Umbral Blades / Shift / Smoke Bomb

[buoyant roost]

sounds good

[pearl forge]

but can already hit almost 1.2 mil per hit as it ramps

[serene crane]

I was thinking about updating the lowlife lightning LM from 1.2 aswell, but at that point is like 90% just corruptions and cba farming and doing that... 😄

Im thinking what to cook on Bladedancer or just move to lvling up Marksman for Heartseeker+Shuriken corruption... 🤔

Gladiator's sword gives +100% crit chance while in the DS arena...should be supergiga easy to cap crit for Glass then? 🤔

[buoyant roost]

we disscussed its not a great item 😄

[serene crane]

https://tenor.com/view/snape-lie-dont-lie-to-me-gif-5914709

Maybe Gladi+Tongue, ditch Glass, take Omnis, go lowlife with Exsanguinous, Reliquary Nest to boost idols by 40-60%, shadow daggers nodes in DS => Cascade procs => SD nodes in Cascade... purely phys build so shurikens are ez pick... just to somehow manage with mana, idk, with DS I still feel like it kinda sucks

[buoyant roost]

but if you SD, you already have 100% crit 😄

caused SD always crits

[serene crane]

It would pretty much be for non-SD stuff, the SD aplication isnt that great If I compare it with umbrals or rend... 😄

[buoyant roost]

ye. I mean we should go wild now 😄

[serene crane]

I just got a bit bored with Rend for now, I need some good DS without the Sync strike/Cascade comboing 😄

[buoyant roost]

I was thinking about pure damage with kuzon and jormund before I switched to ignite

[serene crane]

Ignite is for sure fun with the Ember amulet, at least it can also trigger the wisps to copy your DS... unlike Rend, if that could be converted to fire, that would be huge 😄

[serene crane]

I guess I'll just try Gladi+Tongue+Glass on purely phys DS and see how it goes on some low corruption echoes, just need to sort some defenses tbh

[ebon jungle]

the level designer should have a think

[serene crane]

I kinda like that map, theres usually a lot of mob packs

[ebon jungle]

i wanna use that amulet as well tbh

[serene crane]

Like overall its not bad... just the big downside is it takes Primordial slot, cap at 40% chance is okay but 300% extra crit multi is often a lot less of what you often usually have

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olVLxROG

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (74)

General:

▸ Health: 1,488, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 136.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 36%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 38 Dex / 18 Int / 18 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 389% / 40% / 40% / 55% / 40% / 63% / 93%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 298
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (606)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (585)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Dancing Strikes

[serene crane]

%DoT DR, big %crit avo is nice there tho... also like 50% crit multi

[ebon jungle]

its an additional not a cap

[serene crane]

Its like 140% cap for the crit chance

[ebon jungle]

which is fine as well

[serene crane]

Yea I say its okay, you're usually spamming whatever skill anyway 😄 Ive tried it before with Rend for the purely shadow daggers and it worked just fine, there is so many Rend/Cascade/Umbral shadow daggers procs you can see the orange crits qutie often

[serene crane]

Are we going down into the poison rabbit hole?

Vipertail belt should be great aswell, big poison chance, some dodge, attack speed

[ebon jungle]

This is why i would like to try it with heartseeker for fun

[buoyant roost]

yesss 😄 but this is good! I think tons of poison/bleed stacks

[ebon jungle]

Whats funny is i try and equip omnis which fixes all my res issues with 58 multi over weaver amulet

its still less damage..

[serene crane]

Might be more damage with Salt and crit multi on stuff tho 😄

1.3 could have added some 1h sword "scorpion tail" unique, or just something really good for poison... Also Shade has like 5 versions? Each could have its own unique for their type

[opaque juniper]

Can anyone tell me or link the best rogue build for Uber abberoth damage wise

[ebon jungle]

how the hell are you supposed to do the omen veil echo triggering all at the same time lol

[buoyant roost]

I was thinking but tired of salt. and I want a lot of attack speed 😄

[ebon jungle]

nvm i did it lol

this build op as shit

[buoyant roost]

no time now, but will try to perfect it. this was just initial idea

[serene crane]

Yeah kinda same, we just need some more uniques to boost DoTs... or allowing them to crit, that could be interesting 😄

[serene crane]

Easiest is to nearly finish one and before you kill the omens, activate the other two... omens will die and then you just rotate between the two... at least thats what I do 😄

[ebon jungle]

i activated all 3 at the same time everytime and got it in the end lol

just gotta not be stupidand use decoy and doge proper

[plain flume]

Yesterday I pressed X, and I saw that there was an idol of that type. I went to check, and it was exactly what my build needed.

I got really angry, my filter was hiding everything.

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message

[ebon jungle]

😭

I got the TSM filter but i checked all uniques and idols

cuz it wwas hiding shit i needed in cof

[ebon jungle]

BWOI

[serene crane]

Alright, I might try going for something like this 🤔 No idea about MM and Hs much, so its probably scuffed here and there... but its mainly for phys throw procced Shurikens, resumonning Shadows to consume them by Hs... numbers with buffs look quite good I guess, maybe Endurance could get closer to the cap
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oP6YwKa3

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (15) / Marksman (78)

General:

▸ Health: 2,680, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 125.41, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 10 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 105% / 116% / 119% / 93% / 81% / 90%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 536
▸ Dodge Chance: 41% (1488)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (853)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 21%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 39%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shift

[buoyant roost]

do you have that bow though

that's like the most critical thing 😄

[ebon jungle]

wtf

[plain flume]

Tri T7? 👀

[manic wave]

hello i have a question -- i'm playing bladestorm bladedancer this season and i got a corruption on my amulet nihilis that vitality is converted into rampancy (i do have shattered worlds with 90% increased effect on frenzy but i dont use it yet) , is this a good corruption for me or not and if so why

[serene crane]

More or less, for sure I have the corruption like X times... 😄 1LP is easy to slam and corrupt

[ebon jungle]

2x t6 1x t7

still good

[serene crane]

The good stuff always dropped sealed...

[plain flume]

Can I ask a question?

What's the best modifier for a helmet?

Increased damage of skills used by shadows.
Increased damage per active shadow with Shadow Cascade.
Increased damage while wielding a dagger.

my build is Shadow Cascade Bladedancer 🤔

[serene crane]

per active shadow

%wise its just higher

[bitter prism]

is there even a place in time where you pick inc. damage while wielding a dagger

I feel like that thing is just useless

[plain flume]

Let me see if I understand.
If I have 5 shadows,
will it multiply 60x5? 300%

[serene crane]

If you arent usign shadows I guess... like If you play some poison stuff with daggers or whatever, it still increases the damage of poison tics... not like its the best, but yeah 😄

[serene crane]

Sounds about right 😄

[plain flume]

😁 👍

[serene crane]

t7 %inc dmg with dagger/sword is 120%
t7 %inc dmg of shadow skills is 240%
t7 %inc cascade dmg per shadow is 60% , but you usually have enough shadows or more to make it equal or higher than %inc shadow skills

could combine them tho, depends what you want on 2nd prefix

[plain flume]

I'll try to make this craft.

[bitter prism]

corruption into rare item

gl

[serene crane]

Sad part is, its not really hard to do, but FP can just screw over the whole item in 2 steps

[viscid finch]

guys, can someone that have the 1 hit build from Potato help me? seems like i have all the items needed, i had julra buff from rings, i had 4 stack of flow. and max i did was 75m, the boss was left with 64% health. https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/xzolly/character/uber can someone check please and tell me what i am missing ?

[plain flume]

👀

[naive saddle]

Takes a bit of practice to sync up all the buffs

[bitter prism]

now I never played falconer but why julra rings?

[viscid finch]

It increases the stats the dex for me, with them I get to 200+ dex

[serene crane]

Something about tripled t7 dex that scales to other Falconer-highly-Geneva-convention-stuff I guess

[viscid finch]

I tried over 100 times …

[serene crane]

You could try @ JUSE

[eager mason]

you are dropping your smoke bomb these two are a big part of your damage

also try to get a bit closer to the boss

[naive saddle]

Yeah you need a 2nd smoke bomb on the opening

[bitter prism]

I mean couldnt you took any other ring and get like more value out of it, spelldamage is +0 to a falconer no

[naive saddle]

What I do is go in with half of CD on julra like you did

[viscid finch]

I was trying to save smock for julra

[naive saddle]

Jump in with a bomb, full cycle, drop a 2nd bomb as it comes off cd and then use the beam dodge (with bomb) or the dash (without bomb) to trigger the extra flow before falconry and UB3

It seems your UB2 consumed stacks there while smoke bomb was down.

[crystal mauve]

is the only solution to being stuck restarting the game?

[bitter prism]

ye

or tp out

if it doesnt let you leave rejoin

[crystal mauve]

the portal is not at my location

[viscid finch]

ok i will give it some more try now

[bitter prism]

and submit le report

[naive saddle]

You spammed UB too much as well.

[eager mason]

you can try to look at this one he evades before entering to mono to sync up the rings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4QZO_Sdphg

[naive saddle]

It seems your UB cycled twice, which means it was already in-rhythm and something else consumed it

Gotta be careful about it, and evade can also trigger flow.

What I do is bomb inside the uber arena to stack up some shrouds, and put julra on CD, then jump into the fight with 50% CD left (and some carry over shrouds).

[viscid finch]

can you take a look on the items? should i be able to kill him with them ?

if so, i will try until i get it right ...

[naive saddle]

Zolly check your points in wings of shadow

[bitter prism]

is there like a build guide explanation to that falc build

I shall go search maxroll I hope whoever made it explains why they want spelldamage

on a falconer

[eager mason]

put 1 more point on these

[viscid finch]

ok, on it

[eager mason]

looks normal, the idols could be a bit better rolled but idk the prices on mg so

[viscid finch]

they are quite expensive, everyone wants to try this build :)))

[bitter prism]

okey no I get it now

why did I never thought lp gets tripled

[serene crane]

Kinda failed with FP and hoped to seal t3 Jormun but it just jumped from t2=>t4... but not bad at all 😄

[viscid finch]

any ideas where should i cut 1 point in Aerial Assault ? to put in Avian Hunter 4/4 ?

[eager mason]

have it like this on the planner

[naive saddle]

It’s doable, my gear was similar with my first kill (falconer)

[viscid finch]

i checked your char not the planner 😄 got it now.

[viscid finch]

uh :)) thats makes me happy, i will try until i get it.

i nees some passive also, i am lvl 94. maybe that will help too

[naive saddle]

I did my oneshot with this: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Alpheus1/character/EagleDancer

Don't think I've played the falconer much since

[naive saddle]

You really want to pump the number of dusk shrouds that you go in with, ideally from 3-bomb's worth

See if you can time your julra so that you get 2 bombs off before the fight starts rather than 1

Keep holding down all the other falcon abilities while you prep the oneshot

And make sure your mouse is inside your bomb and under uber, so the falcons dive into your smoke while pre-placing the umbrals correctly

[zealous jungle]

hi im currently playing shadow rend but im planning on switching to perhaps zhp ballista since its too laggy to play shadow rend, should i create a new character for it or just swap my current one

[naive saddle]

But from your video (the one attempt you recorded) your main issue is mistiming your flow stacks.

[serene crane]

I'd honestly make a new character... its pretty much completly different build 😄

[viscid finch]

in this i dont see what was wrong :)))

[naive saddle]

Mistimed flow again

You really shouldn't spam umbrals

Do you move with your right mouse button?

[viscid finch]

left

[naive saddle]

And your falcon was late.

[viscid finch]

so, i need to give it like a sec? when i right click to use umbral ?

[naive saddle]

Really it's a lot easier if you put umbral on your keyboard.

And let the key input rollover do the work

No it looks like you tunnel vision when you umbral and press all buttons randomly.

Just set up your keybinds in such a way that they don't need keyboard-mouse coordination

[viscid finch]

yep, have that issue from LoL :)))

ok, i will try to control it a bit

[naive saddle]

I have smoke bomb on right click

Everything else was perfect.

[viscid finch]

i tryed but to change the skills will take some time to get used to it. i shoo control them like this, but, i saw now in a record. i even presed recall first ...

i panic and press to fast.

[arctic heart]

If I use the Catalyst to convert Acid Flask to Frostbite, does that convert Hive Mind as well into cold?

[crystal mauve]

is this affix bugged? when i remove my chest only then does it apply

[potent rune]

Kinda it has a way that works and it doesn't work if you equip your items in a specific way

[crystal mauve]

oh it seems to work if i re equip some other corrupted item, dunno why i didnt test that first lol

[potent rune]

If you take off a corrupted idol will work too😅

If you have 7 corrupted items and equip the one that has this corruption its doesn't work ,idk why but you equip this item before the 7 requirement and works

[wary cedar]

what bug?

[gentle saffron]

Hey Rogues!

I've been running "Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros" as a "Shuriken/Bladestorm Bladedancer" and I just realized that it only gives me HP and thereby more ward.

Is there a stronger relic for my build and if yes what is it called?

I play around 500c and my damage is fine, but I'm starting to struggle with survivability.

Please help! 😦

[serene crane]

Not really, the only thing that could be somewhat good aswell is crafted Doppelganger relic or Erased Rogue weaver relic but you would have to get some good affixes, ideally with double health suffix aswell so your ward wouldnt drop that much

[gentle saffron]

Yeah ok I cannot under any circumstancen lose more survivability infact I'm trying to get more.

What about "Shattered World"? It doesn't have Health but it does have damage reduction is that any good or nah?

[iron fulcrum]

Whats a fun blademaster build if I enjoy speed and rippin through echoes

[gentle saffron]

The build I play. Blademaster/Shuriken Bladedancer.

[iron fulcrum]

Ive heard it struggles a bit with aoe, or am I confusing it with a dif build

[gentle saffron]

I'm only at 500c and there it clears just fine.

[iron fulcrum]

Cool ill try that then

Still havent made a bladedancer so im excited

[serene crane]

but GL rolling it tbh 😄

[pearl forge]

i really like the new 3 set

[serene crane]

Yeah Doppelganger is great 😄 I hope the old sets get some update sometime

[pearl forge]

the power lvl of my build went way up

as always there is silly thing like the umbral snap but hey

at least im having fun

[ebon python]

Wanted to respec my bladedancer to Kuzon, but I noticed the build planner this person uses has Nihilis and Immortal Vise. Are rare/exalted items my best bet until I can find or buy those later, keeping in mid they'll likely be less OP?

[pearl forge]

nihilis is kinda important because +2 skills

but yea you could use exalteds

vise is kinda to not get 1 shot

[ebon python]

I think this person was doing 1k corr tho

And I'm at 125

[pearl forge]

yea you will do fine

[ebon python]

ty

[pearl forge]

im not super tanky and i can do 1k+

just if you see the greens slimes

prepare for death

[ebon python]

Are they overtuned still

[pearl forge]

i got hit by 17k

[ebon python]

In any case I was looking for something that'll be smooth at 300-450 corr echoes and timeline bosses etc

And I like the skill looks

Would you say I'd do fine at 300 w/o the abberoth items?

[serene crane]

You dont need Aberroth items at all

[ebon python]

ty

[wary cedar]

hey sweety

[naive saddle]

That's much better already, you got this!

[ebon jungle]

is this a wanted combo lel

[serene crane]

Not really

@wary cedar look what I found

[viscid finch]

stil i didnt get it ... after many many try, i take a break now...

i dont know, i am dissapointed in me for not makeing that rotation ...

[ebon jungle]

what are you going with

cold or warm

[serene crane]

phys for throw

got Discord from a Rift Beast at lvl42, thats a sign If I ever seen one

[maiden gyro]

I got the dagger at 45 ish.

Had to wait 30 levels to use it.

[rocky bloom]

qq what lvl is the minimum for shadow cascade? I have a lvl 48 rogue but lacking mana severely

new to rogue btw

i have a lvl100 Lb but wanted to try the build

[narrow crypt]

If my corrupted idol has slow to armor shred conversion, does that also apply to slow chance on skills or just slow chance from gear?

[serene crane]

Im sure you can do it If you get the nodes for mana efficiency in Sync Strike; Cascade with mana refund nodes; same with Shift

[rocky bloom]

tysm! 💯

[serene crane]

Theres also some Sync Strike mana efficiency on body/helmet I think and Huge idols

[rocky bloom]

ok sync strike. well noted.. it it a node under shadow cascade?

[serene crane]

No its a skill from 10 points in Bladedancer, dont you use that one in the build? 🤔

[ebon jungle]

smh

how huge it would have been with shuriken

[serene crane]

Thats such counter-productive corrupt for Dragonsong...

[left umbra]

Question. I see a lot of chest armour with Ward on Shadow Creation. Is there a specific way to get this or is it just luck via corrupting the item?

[ebon jungle]

right having a hard time indentifying how i wanna play

[serene crane]

Its a rogue prefix like any other, you can drop it randomly, try getting prophecies for body/helmet which can have this prefix; imprint such item in weaver tree and eventually you'll see dropping them... can get it via corruption, but thats gambling, can get any other prefix

[serene crane]

Have you tried Blade Shield with dragonsong? 😄 Might be funny... or get Maehlin gloves and just go full ignite shurikens with Dragonsong and Heartseeker

[ebon jungle]

yeah at the beginning and never tried again

[rose shell]

for shadow rend builds, what's the best timeline to farm?

or there isn't a "best" timeline lol

[serene crane]

Probably Reign of Dragons just for swords, but its something you can get anywhere else at lower rate or just run prophecies; most of the items are pretty much just crafted set items... maybe Spirits of Fire for unique boots echo reward, but if you imprint Tabi boots you should see them fairly often

[serene crane]

Did it feel bad or?

[ebon jungle]

yeah because shurikens is like my 2ndary or mandatory dps

i went from like 1 minute plus abberoth kill to basically 10-15s without the shit pauses

day n night difference

this is why i want shurikens on quiver as well

[serene crane]

Sadly I only got shurikens on the Sanguine quiver for now... but it has bow speed and dot leech so I guess its something 😄

[rose shell]

ok nice thanks, i don't use swords. Firestarter and traitors tongue... using maxroll's guide

[serene crane]

mb, that timeline has set/unique sword or dagger, so possible for Tongue aswell

[rose shell]

ahhh ok nice nice thank you

came across from VK warpath and loving shadow rend so far

the damage is insane

[serene crane]

Yea its a little bit overtunned

[potent rune]

A Lil bit

To be fair umbral is the bs one

[serene crane]

I dont get why those Umbral idols arent limited just like the node...

[potent rune]

Even the crit multi node aint capped

1.4 so far has the worst balance so far which is a shame at least grinding uber got much easier and faster

Although I aint doing that again rofl so bad droprate

[serene crane]

Shade types, Observer, Uber... they all need some more unique loot, theres like 2-3 items tops... could be a lot more

[potent rune]

700 ubers down got like 9 shattered 2 lp like 40 nihilis 2lp,40 2 lp vise, but the amount of effort getting rid of that its insane with 1 egg nemesis

Uber drops too many gloves ,or at least should have better lp drop,since most upgrades come from nemesis and not him

[serene crane]

Its been about a year since I suggested to EHG to add some uber-Nemesis with 4 egg slots... I guess RIP that idea since 99% of the suggestions are probably not even getting any attention

[potent rune]

16 tabs of 0 lps 2 million amber spent on conquered tower not again

[serene crane]

Yea I was doing same thing in 1.2 for BBC, Uleros belts, Ucenuis, Boulderfists trying to get 3-4 LPs... a bit soul-draining activity 😄

[buoyant roost]

ok 😄

[serene crane]

Damn thats great

[buoyant roost]

and now? 😄

lol

i need to get a ward trail at least 3lp

[serene crane]

Yea, "at least" might be a bit too much 😄

[sage flax]

Nice drop on a Rogue

[pearl forge]

big redemption bait

[serene crane]

Just hit the right affixes, then just drop 4LP World Splitter and you can make funny biiiig cascade

[sage flax]

TRUE

Void rogue inc

[viscid finch]

men, where the hell did you saw a 4lp splitter :))

[serene crane]

In my dreams

I mean, just drop it, its like 50:50 chance, either you get it or you dont

[viscid finch]

my friend farmed tabs and tabs of splitters, and max he got i guess was 3lp last season

[serene crane]

yea, just few milion tabs more

[viscid finch]

yep :)))

[sage flax]

maybe its the game telling me to swap to void knight

[viscid finch]

i have the warpath for mapping.

i can say, i dont see another build as good as this for mapping

[sage flax]

Played alot of ES s2 i think

[buoyant roost]

cascade dual wield only 😄

[viscid finch]

i started with the plan to do that too, but i changed to warpath. much cleanier

[sage flax]

the funny thing is that the axe had 2 t7 aswell

[serene crane]

smh, EHG knows we would be too powerful with 2H bladedancer...

[sage flax]

so it could be nutty if i get lucky

[astral stag]

Does anyone know what in the oneshot build procs traps?

[buoyant roost]

traps?

[sage flax]

not a bad upgrade

[astral stag]

Explosive traps

All the shadow rends I have seen proc traps

[hollow hull]

After killing Uberroth as Shadow Cascade Rogue (no rend/umbral) im trying to decide what to pivot to farm efficiently with. I've looked at a lot of different builds and shadow rend looks kinda more like a goofy caster build than a fluid Rogue one. Should I just stick with Shadow Cascade or is there something faster for maps at high corruption? Maybe some sort of hybrid?

[flat falcon]

I've been playing Bina's maxroll Shadow Cascade build, and it's certainly powerful. But I kind of hate builds where your skills all move you. I struggle on bosses where positioning matters to stand in the right spots.

So I'm looking at Shadow Rend, instead. What variant is the best for mapping? Maxroll's, or another?

[hollow hull]

I used that exact build to kill Uberroth and I have to admit if your gear is not at the level where you skip half the phases and can stand in everything, it's a very painful and frustrating experience. Took me a good bunch of tries to get it right, because having to use shift every 2s to restore mana messes up your positioning big time.

To be fair, shadow cascade feels much better on maps than rend for me, but the damage starts to drop off a cliff after 1000c and rares suddenly are not one-combo anymore. So I'm in a similar spot as you, Rend looks quite uninspiring to play and seems much slower than Shadow Cascade

[flat falcon]

Appreciate the response, and appreciate your D4 builds too. 🙂 I was going to say I've grown to dislike Evadeborn and Paladin speed builds for the same reason, and I'm guessing you'd understand that reference.

Maybe I'll try and get Warpath online, I've always liked spin 2 win, even if the damage will be much lower than either Rogue build.

[hollow hull]

Hah, thanks! Yeah, you're spot on about warpath. I played it this season as well and it feels super smooth, if you unspecc the node to autocast Abyssal Echoes as that's currently bugged and messing with the mana management. The damage is significantly lower than Rogue at similar gear investment. But I can fully recommend trying it as it's super fun!

[steady cypress]

hi guy

so explosive ballista still alive and strong?

[half nova]

Heard trap version is alive dunno about normal

[steady cypress]

normal still S tier?

like almost all the top ladder falconer now uses normal ballista

[little ember]

Any good guides for the umbral blade build?

[serene crane]

This from Misha
#🔪┃rogue message

[little ember]

Ty

[upper river]

Would I be able to get some help with a complete respec for my rogue? Was trying the bees build but I am having too much trouble putting it together and it fell flat with what I have as soon as I hit corruption 100

[buoyant roost]

what do you want to do okuu

[upper river]

I was hoping the minion thing would be okay but its been very painful. Divebomb was fun but there were really high cooldowns

I kinda just want something smoother to play. Was very clunky when I swapped to bees

tried shadow rend with a sword catcher with a forged weapon corrupt that worked alright, but also very clunky

[serene crane]

Do you have Hive Mind for the bees? 🤔 Its more into decoy/acid flask mixed with the bees, which should be alright just not something super strong

[upper river]

I do

my idols are a mess but otherwise I have alright gear (I thought)

the acid flask/decoy just havent been consistent at all

Hive mind only seems to release 4 bees total

when the decoy blows up

[buoyant roost]

I tried also playing bees as falconer, but it felt bad

@serene crane suggestions? 😄

[short pawn]

you can try Bladestorm with shurikens, smokebomb as traversal into bladestorms and just DS spam in between

[serene crane]

Sad... there used to be few bee build videos on youtube, just a bit outdated probably... Shadow Rend gets smoother once you get good attack speed and a way to sustain the mana, usually Cascade with mana nodes / Umbral blades with Shift recall... its the delayed attack from the Shadows that can be clunky at the start, but it gets better 😄

[fading burrow]

you should create new one for ballista unless you dont need to do Omen Veil

[upper river]

gonna try this build but really have no clue how good it is or how hard it'll be to get the sword, chest and belt

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/immortal-stone-rend-cascade-bladedancer#build_variants

[sharp raven]

Immortal Stone Rend Cascade Bladedancer Build Guide

Game Version

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class

Rogue / Bladedancer

Used skills

• Shadow Cascade
• Shift
• Umbral Blades
• Shadow Rend
• Synchronized Strike

Used unique items

• Doppelganger's Facade
• Null Portent
• Eye of Reen
• Traitor's Tongue
• Falcon Fists
• Brewmaster's Buckle
• Army of Skin
• Carcinization of Momentum
• Siphon of Anguish
• Blossom of Immortal Stone
• Doppelganger's Mimicry

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Melee / Ranged

Created by TheDarkOmen · Apr 2, 2026, 2:37 PM

[fading burrow]

pretty easy, you can use directly the set piece first, then use corruption rune to create forged exalted from it

then you can farm your exalted and forge with set affix later

[serene crane]

That sealed crit multi kinda screws it over I think... maybe add any random t1 suffix, Havoc so one of the prefixes becomes t1, gamble with Removal with 25% chance of removing the t1 Havoc'ed prefix, then put whatever you want there (like Doppel, +skill), Redemption and hope it gets something good, then Havoc to get your wanted prefix as t7? 😄
Or just Havoc to get double t7 prefix and Redemption it right away... its gambling both ways, not sure what better way to do this 😄

[upper river]

I have the doppleganger chest, but not the null portent

so I can "prob" just use that for a while

I dont actually know if this is the build I want or not though lol

[fading burrow]

null portent sucks

[serene crane]

You can just use Jormun set sword+belt

[fading burrow]

yea lmao the build is pepega tanky with 10k+ ward so no need "iMm0rT4l" stuff

[buoyant roost]

when sealed affix actually screws you D

[serene crane]

Its only not tanky when you arent attacking, but yeah, you can go 1-2k corruption with much less investment... 2LP Null is harder to get than what you could do with a simple set items, Entwinned ring and later some crafted set items which tbh isnt that hard either

[serene crane]

Yea, otherwise you'd just add t1 suffix, Havoc, seal the newly shuffled t1 prefix, add new prefix, Redemption, Havoc again... but with the sealed one, its a bit not good 😄

[upper river]

well crap, I cant actually switch, costs half a mil gold

stuck as falconer for a while

[serene crane]

Might just say yolo and send bunch of Redemption runes into it

[buoyant roost]

half a mil is nothing come on

[buoyant roost]

probably what ill do.

[upper river]

going back to my sword catcher build for now. What do I look for with the Altars? barely understand what they do besides change the layout

[buoyant roost]

it all depends

altars can be quite powerful with Wings of Discord for example.

[naive saddle]

Gold blessings, a few echos and an uber nets you 500k

[upper river]

I am so far away from an uber

[serene crane]

You can start with something like this and be just fine in low corruption

• ideally you'd want at least crafted Doppel helmet+body with "ward on shadow creation" prefix and "%inc damage for shadow cascade per active shadow" which with so much shadow resummoning would give you a ton of ward on top of everything else... but normal doppel is fine aswell... also in your loot filter add a rule to: "show affix - personal - Mirage" which drops from the Mirage champion enemies and always has +1 to max shadows in sealed slot...ideally you get melee attack speed on them and The Last Bear suffix, but thats optional at this point, the +1 shadow makes a solid difference, with Falconer your only option is Doppel body for the +1
• you just keep on spamming Rend, moving you forward, proccing Cascades behind you by consuming shadows with Rend use, that spans Umbral blades on the ground => Shift to recall them to send them to nearby enemies which clears the trash mobs around with shadow daggers procs, gives you ward, tons of mana back and applies bleed to enemies to give you crit multi from Jormun sword
• smoke bomb passively to generate shadows behind you, to give you silver shroud and during bosses try to stay inside it to get Smoke Blades for the flat melee+throw damage
• also Decoy (or whatever skill you decide to put in the #1 skill slot on the bar) for another silver dusk from Falconer node (with 10s cooldown, so smoke bomb will get you Silver shroud more often, just dont use Smoke bomb in #1 skill slot)
  https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oP6YONxl

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (26) / Bladedancer (30) / Falconer (57)

General:

▸ Health: 2,324, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 190.51, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 28 Dex / 2 Int / 10 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 103% / 75% / 123% / 87% / 45% / 20% / 25%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 894
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (1003)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,724)
▸ Block Chance: 5%, Mitigation: 8% (56)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 27%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 47%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Shift / Umbral Blades / Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb

[serene crane]

For the altars look for "increased effect of prefixes/suffixes (sometimes its both) in refracted slots" and increased amount of omen idols... armor on that kind of altar is nice, but it only has 2 refracted slots... for Null, you want 40% resistances over the cap to get the full mitigation bonus, so some altars with "%inc effect of suffixes in refracted slots" and idols that give you elemental resistances would make it easy

Once you get enough gold, just swap to bladedancer instead tho

[raw moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMuBTEDrr5E
Hello rogue brothers
Can somene please explain me what's the idea here?
Spam shadows which will drop lots of umbral blades and then return them?
I cannot reproduce it on my character with much better gear....

[upper river]

Thanks, I'll give it a try as soon as I find the set weapon and belt

[buoyant roost]

yes pretty much. whats your gear?

do you have idols for umbral

[raw moth]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ewqeqwedsad/character/agregat
The only thing that I know is bad is chest -> need to replace it with different set affix to get +1 to skills
but maybe I don't have enought throwing flat damage?
I have 2 idols for umbral but with 5%

[serene crane]

Yea you want like 3 Ornate long ones and 1 Grand omen one with all the Umbral rolls

Pyramid to fit those and boost every single one of them with the prefix roll

Atropos with better attack speed would be big upgrade aswell; Mirage gloves with flat, attack speed and Last Bear suffix for the %phys damage

t7 doppel relic with flat throw damage, t7 chance to resummon shadows is a big differnece aswell

That altar is doing barely anything for you tbh 🤔

[serene crane]

And If you get lucky with corruption, you can get some super cracked attack speed... just this sword, Entwinned ring+Abandoned ring on planner (no passives, other gear, average rolls, 149% max rolls) is 134% attack speed; 93% without corruption; 57% with your 18% speed roll... of coruse getting t7 speed alone is just lucky and extra lucky for risking corruption... but you could just get other kind of damage as corruption

[wary cedar]

yo what is dis corruption

looks crazy

[serene crane]

Yea and it gets 50% from the Abandoned set bonus

[raw moth]

Ok, so its a gear issue
I was just curious because my gear(except idols) is definetly better than that guy gear
but my damage is nowhere close to his 🤔
anyway, thank you soo much for help 🙏

[serene crane]

Yeah, idols, attack speed, dusk shroud stacks, shadow respawning chance, flat throw damage... also making sure the Flow combo is right.. should get there for sure! 😄 I think Misha did like 420m recall crit or something like that...there is a link somewhere above from me to their message with the build and video

[buoyant roost]

I hope next season they intrdocue some mechanic that you can control a bit the weaver will .

maybe guarantee 1 affix with the cost of amber

[wary cedar]

would make sense

since we have the guranteed 1lp slam for uniques

[serene crane]

Would be nice to add it to this #suggestions message But thats probably asking for too much... 😄

[buoyant roost]

Way ahead of you 😄

Getting 2LP Reen is I swear impossible 😄

[serene crane]

tbh Weaver uniques could get some rework for sure... and ffs make a weaver item for every item slot, surely it cant be that hard 😄 some of them could have higher WW rolls too... like farming those Weaver Gift swords, most of them I've dropped had like 8-12WW, very few above 16 and only twice Ive seen 20WW... just to get t7 minion suffixes 💀

[serene crane]

I got one from Nemesis like 2 days ago 😄

[buoyant roost]

Yeah. Ive been chasing one with T7 attack speed, and no luck

[buoyant roost]

now corrupt

[serene crane]

I didnt even slam it yet, 1LP with %DoT corruption is good enough already 😄

[buoyant roost]

my luck

[serene crane]

well, fuel for 2LP rerolls...

[wary cedar]

i was about to say "corrupt it"

but it already was

[serene crane]

PoE has option to double corrupt items... LE could have something like that too with like a unique rune dropped from endgame bosses or something 😄

btw, is this pretty much just a node for Slow chance? 🤔

[buoyant roost]

I think so

🙏🏻

not a single one XD

[serene crane]

Turtle has been pretty hardcore this season... 😄

[buoyant roost]

yeah seems so

[wary cedar]

turtle odds feel off

but maybe this is because if the LP doesnt raise it's 0LP

[naive saddle]

Hey quick Q: How do shadows decide what ability to use?

[serene crane]

Poison Heartseeker with armor shred converted into poison chance and Shuriken corruptions? 😄 might be a bit squishier than other builds, but the amount of poison stacks looks high
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnaLKlW1

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (10) / Marksman (76)

General:

▸ Health: 1,877, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 201.46, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 24 Dex / 11 Int / 11 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 83% / 94% / 85% / 71% / 98% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 431
▸ Dodge Chance: 20% (658)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (1,036)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 4%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Shift / Acid Flask

[serene crane]

They use whatever you use or trigger with procs like Shadow Massacre in Rend or Dancing Shadows in Shift

[naive saddle]

Does it have anything to do with my hotbar?

[serene crane]

Not at all

[wary cedar]

no.

[pearl forge]

shadows have like a spawn timer

then use the ability if you trigger them

many skills also have talents to consume them so be aware

[serene crane]

It can look like this and you'll still see cascade, umbrals (and possibly) explosive traps going everywhere

[pearl forge]

to not lose them randomly

[serene crane]

Yes

[naive saddle]

Kk, was just wondering why they cascade when I only rend. Just to confirm it's from Shadow Massacre

[wary cedar]

at least take these

[naive saddle]

Can there be a race condition with Careful Assault vs. Shadow-rend usage only?

[serene crane]

Could be more poison stacks than damage from Jade arrows I guess

[serene crane]

I'd bet it counts the shadows first, then based on that it increases the damage of Cascade 🤔

[naive saddle]

Hmmm

But what's the order of "consumption"

Is it the dying shadow that casts cascade?

[serene crane]

unless it needs any shadows to be respawned after the cascade consumes the previous shadows... 🤔 gonna need someone smart for this

[naive saddle]

Oh they respawn

Right

Ugh

https://tenor.com/p8EJO5EVJ3Q.gif

[serene crane]

Surely AI wouldnt lie to us

[naive saddle]

CA is purely automated "clear", right? A pure single-target spec would want to drop it, there's no hidden benefit from shadow cascade other than the mana?

[serene crane]

Well its 100% more damage with 4 shadows, so, big damage to single target too... just as an aoe skill 😄

[naive saddle]

Hm... I can't quite place it, seems like the big umbral pops should account for 90%+ of the single target

At least for killing uber/orobyss beyond 4k+

[cinder ibex]

What’s the most fun but best build for pushing high corruption? Should I go like heartseeker or go with like a hail of arrows or falcon build?

Ballista seems like it jsut auto shoots while i run around and give me necro vibes:)

[wary cedar]

don't go heartseeker

do anything with Bladedancer

[cinder ibex]

I’m asking for ranged bow build though 🙂

[wary cedar]

then heartseeker

[serene crane]

Big throw

[ebon jungle]

why the questionmark

[wary cedar]

it's 1/300

come flexing again if you hit a at least 1/1000

[ebon jungle]

uhuh and?

[dire sable]

Looks like Discord Police strikes again

[serene crane]

not even 130%, smh, reforge

[ebon jungle]

life must be so miserable after all of that individual

[wary cedar]

and only 2 bonus shuri

[ebon jungle]

whats funny is ive posted this like 2-3 times and this idiot tries to provoke

fak no health

oh no i posted a 1/300 item

[serene crane]

I think there should be a corruption option that could make rolls go outside of theri regular roll bracket... like you corrupt Liraka and the throw multi gos to like 200% or something

[ebon jungle]

oh no im posting a 1 in 7789 item

[dire sable]

On the bright side.. The person is a 1/1.000.000 so easy to add ignore too 😉

[ebon jungle]

Only shows the moderators are doing a shit job and im too petty

[wary cedar]

but then also give it the opposite effect, -2 shuris xd

[serene crane]

Could roll such things too 😄

[ebon jungle]

FAK

SHIT MOVEMENT

SKILL ISSUES

[wary cedar]

have you tried corrupting it?

[ebon jungle]

im doing this uncorrupted and you cant even tough uberoth without dying

[wary cedar]

i havent even beat abberoth

maybe i need to corrupt more

[serene crane]

Corrupt Aberroth into Suberroth

[ebon jungle]

sucks to suck

[serene crane]

And hows the time looking so far?

[wary cedar]

my 1/74

[serene crane]

Mourningfrost when Nightfire comes in

[ebon jungle]

137 throw damage not bad

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane just what I needed

🙄

[serene crane]

Yea 99.99% I throw back on the ground where they belong

[buoyant roost]

yep. if the loot of the "finish echo area" would not hide loot, they would probably clog the screen 😄

[lost belfry]

Trying to get an attack speed Atropos, is it just farming a shit ton, and praying the rune of weaving the hits?

[potent rune]

Basically yeah pray rng Jesus for it

[lost belfry]

👍

[buoyant roost]

damn. close 🙁

[serene crane]

Well thats not so bad 🤔

[buoyant roost]

usable somewhat for that poison build

[rose shell]

guys question for the Shadow rend users

my new rogue... the set items on regular items... i've been getting the set items and corrupting them and hoping it changes to a good item with good mods

i got lucky for a few of them

is that the best way ? or am i doing madness? lol

should i salvage them and get an exalted item and craft the set affix on it? or just corrupt set items and hope they change into something good?

be nice to me, i came from VK warpath so all i know is hold 1 button lmao

[buoyant roost]

I do that too all the time

sometimes I get something decent

not ideal though

[ebon jungle]

whats the weaver enchant u want on these

or is that even an idol combo u wanna do to begin with

[wary cedar]

where is the gate?

my entire monos are bugged wtf

here is the entrance, on the map the icon shows to whereever

and i can't enter

[ebon jungle]

giveth ME HASTE

[wary cedar]

now i am stuck in it

[ebon jungle]

jokingly this is corrupted

f8 that either way

i think ive had it happen to me once in s2

this is not beter than 100% slow immunity tbh

[wary cedar]

have you tried corrupting it?

[ebon jungle]

interesting..

[wary cedar]

get this on any non unique idol

then it's good

[ebon jungle]

can you tho

[wary cedar]

i have one

but just changed it

but the Seconds get doubled with Wings of Discord

[ebon jungle]

i missed this part entirely

of that armor

[wary cedar]

💦

[ebon jungle]

I use entwined for my build

lose too much deeps if i switchup

feels good with 100% crit on everything

[wary cedar]

just be lucky

dont need 100% then

[ebon jungle]

is it even corrupted tho

is it even

[wary cedar]

have you tried corrupting it?

[ember surge]

is blade dancer or falconer better?

[gentle saffron]

Hey Rogues!

I'm running Spirits of Fire with 796c. Now my damage is great but if they hit me one time I'm basically dead. So what can I do to improve my survivability? I know there was a place where people could generate a link that would show all of my stats. But I forgot what it's called. Anyone knows the one I'm talking about?

[ember surge]

max out resistances and get dodge

[gentle saffron]

Already done.

[buoyant roost]

wtf these swords are so unnecessary enlarged 😄

[wary cedar]

thats what she said

[wraith nacelle]

With last epoch tools you can pull up your character profile and link it . That should help people get more specific on what could help

[gentle saffron]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QDxZ8rZO

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (74) / Marksman (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,452, Regen: 24.72/s
▸ Mana: 117.5, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 81 Dex / 9 Int / 9 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 81% / 112% / 75% / 101% / 78% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 28%, Threshold: 690
▸ Dodge Chance: 33% (1134)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (479)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 22%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 122%

Used skills:

Shift / Smoke Bomb / Decoy / Bladestorm / Shurikens

[gentle saffron]

@wraith nacelle Like that?

[boreal bay]

how does bladestorm work when it consumes flow? does it get the bonus for one hit? its duration? subskills? shuriken casts?

[wraith nacelle]

Perfect just like that

[wary cedar]

chose your buffs here pls

and hit safe button and share the updated link

hp% and ward

since you asked about survivability

makes stuff easier

[gentle saffron]

@wary cedar https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjqdK16W

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (74) / Marksman (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,452, Regen: 24.72/s
▸ Mana: 117.5, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 81 Dex / 9 Int / 9 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 81% / 112% / 75% / 101% / 78% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 28%, Threshold: 690
▸ Dodge Chance: 33% (1134)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (479)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 22%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 122%

Used skills:

Shift / Smoke Bomb / Decoy / Bladestorm / Shurikens

[wary cedar]

that didnt work

[gentle saffron]

Hm

[wary cedar]

maybe you need to safe it to your builds

or just tell me how much ward you have xd

[wraith nacelle]

Is there a reason you are using shift ? You could just use traversal smoke for more up time on smoke which would give you more dusk shrouds and silver shrouds more often . Also you would get crimson shrouds when getting kills in smoke

[gentle saffron]

I had no idéa that Smoke Bomb could do that. I thought "Shift" was the movement skill given to Rogues and didn't even think about it after that.

[boreal bay]

Net and Shadow Rend can also be used for traversal

I might be forgetting others

[wraith nacelle]

bottom middle of the tree , And since you already have shadows going on with you smoke you could run umbral blades on shadow expiration and make umbral blades explosive and it will be automated

[gentle saffron]

Uhm, can someone link a good Smoke Bomb build that you apparently use it as a travel skill please? I'm like a fekking donkey when it comes to come up with my own build. I always copy from others.

[wraith nacelle]

something like this if you want traversal smoke well maintaining smoke blades and shadow generation

actually this is slightly better

[gentle saffron]

Thank you for helping out good sir! Does this work with "Bladestorm/Shuriken Bladedancer"? Because that's the build that I'm playing.

[wraith nacelle]

very much should and it would also be a damage increase for you because you will have more uptime on smoke blades since you will have smoke up way more often . Should help with survivability and damage . You will need to drop shift though due to traversal skills having cooldowns tied to each other

[gentle saffron]

I can change it up and remove shift np. Question is. with what? What should I place there instead?

[wraith nacelle]

I would say umbral blades would be free damage you can automate since you already have shadows involved

[gentle saffron]

Ok cool and now for my last question. What woul the Umbral Blades skill tree look like?

Asking for a lot here I know, sorry 😦

[wraith nacelle]

its all good . This is a 21 point tree that would be automated when one of you shadows is either consumed or expired . they will just drop to the ground and explode when they are walked over by enemies

[gentle saffron]

Man I can't thank you enough! Thank you so much for going above and beyond to help me out! 🫡

[wraith nacelle]

Its all good brother just enjoy the game .

[pearl forge]

whole duration

you can also use the shift combo to get it to crit always

[cinder ibex]

Thoughts on best and most powerful archer build? Heartseeker?

[sage flax]

maybe time to swap to fire rend build

[wraith nacelle]

For marksman its Cold heart seeker for sure . There is also ballista on falconer but it needs to be ZHP to be good.

[cinder ibex]

Ye and w ballista seems like im just running around while it auto shoots versus doing it myself

[wraith nacelle]

basically, I personally love cold crit heart seeker my self when playing bow

[cinder ibex]

That’s one thing I didn’t like with abomination necro.. I just stood back while it killed everyone

[ember surge]

what is best build atm for specialization? not sure if falconer or bladedancer is best

[sage flax]

huge W

[ebon jungle]

holeee moleeee

[tawny spoke]

is this a good filter to use when ur at like 400 ish corruption

[rocky bloom]

qq how do I get dodge +1 max shadow affix?

can I get an item to shatter to get the affix or has to be affix alone? thx

[lyric smelt]

it's champion affix and drop only

[steady cypress]

according to maxroll, yes

[twilit ibex]

Anyone else notice Detonating Arrows from Arrow Traps in explosive trap don't have any explosions? Is that a bug or intended?

And no I'm not playing mana arrow in Detonating Arrow, if I fire just detonating arrow I still get the explosions

[past sapphire]

when getting the scissors of atropos, the only way to get the affixes is via grinding or Rune of weaving right? there's no way to craft it? just pray to get good RNG?

[serene crane]

Yep

[past sapphire]

damn it's hard. feels like all the planets need to align to get lucky haha

[serene crane]

Then you corrupt it and it removes the affixes or removes exalted ones

[lime thorn]

hey olvrin youre still here

any interesting builds so far?

[serene crane]

Still alive, cant get rid off me so easily

Nothing much... bleed/ignite rend with Uber viable damage, but once Rend gets nerfed it'll suck

[lime thorn]

i think the ward part could be tuned down

[serene crane]

I started Heartseeker with the shuriken corruptions focused on throw damage rather than bow... damage seems alright for the garbo gear I have so far 😄

[lime thorn]

what about other classes

think im pretty much done with rogue after bladestorm and rend

[serene crane]

I havent played other classes that much other than like 100-200 corruptions... something Id probably try is Warpath but it seems to be as popular as Rend, so idk, maybe some other void skills there... I just want void conversion for rogue

[potent rune]

Erasing strike is great this league

[serene crane]

or Swarmblade, but no clue at all how viable it is, Ive only played some bleed one long time ago

[potent rune]

Time rot is stupidly strong could do one shots if stuff worked fine

[lime thorn]

hmm alright

[maiden gyro]

I need the damn bladestorm relic..

Getting every other unique relic besides that one 😭

[serene crane]

Just make your own one, its really not that hard
#🔪┃rogue message

[past sapphire]

Make your own. I think it's normal for us to have an incremental update on loot filters.

1st loop - ok lots of stuff i dont need, remove 'em.
2nd loop - why am i getting red rings, i dont need 'em, remove. (just joking)
loop

til you get what you only need.

But if you really dont have any idea how it works, you might want to check Raxx's universal filter and read it line by line. you can watch that long youtube video of his for that topic too.

[naive saddle]

A good approach is also dropping your current gear and making sure it pops up visually. Whatever you're wearing right now (sans legendary vs LP) should scream at you when on the floor.

[serene crane]

Its been over a year and Im sure I wasnt alone at all, since I asked Ave to make a channel to help with lootfilters and Weaver's faction, its something people will ask about every season all the time... but still nothing

[steady cypress]

hmm

in this season is there any falcon centric good build now?

[serene crane]

I think it should have some UB recall Uber oneshot? JUSE and SMK surely have few videos with it

[sour salmon]

how falconer fix mana problem? sorry, first time making rouge build

oh, i'm running cinder strike as main skill

[bold cave]

Please update us

I’m eyeing that build

[serene crane]

Im still missing a lot of the gear, most of it isnt slammed at all, bow and quiver is just 0LP with the shuriken corruption; only lv70 so far running in 100corr, the AoE is a bit struggling while single target is getting shredded fast, but Im still swapping some skills and points around.... idea is just to go as much attack speed as possible for Heartseekers, crit chance for the corruptions to proc as often as possible; then I wanna try Doppelganger helmet+relic and some smoke bomb+dark arrow shadow spawning for the extra Heartseeker procs and maybe even ward on shadow creation... the usual throw damage from smoke bomb, t7 rings, amulet, belt, relic, Lirakas for +2 shurikens and throw crit multi is pretty ezpz choice

t7 speed or hybrid speed on bow, speed on quiver and t7 Hs on body should boost the damage quite a lot... I just need to check on some good aoe, maybe Chakram, no idea 😄

[serene crane]

I guess Puncture procs from Hs with shadow daggers should be good enough for a bit of aoe clears 🤔

[wary cedar]

i dont think doppelgaenger is going to be worth it

it might sounds good

but when you realise what you lose for it, it's not that good

the chance for shadows to procc heartseeker is somewhat low

and you can't play with idol boosting primos in this setup

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane I quickly hit my head on poison 😄 It needs so much more. I also thought poison is physical damage, turns out it's own type.

But bleed works okay so far: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AL07b361

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 82

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (62) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,886, Regen: 17.48/s
▸ Mana: 136.94, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 11/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 21 Dex / 9 Int / 4 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 93% / 28% / 20% / 23% / 95% / 84% / 22%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 377
▸ Dodge Chance: 47% (1544)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (625)
▸ Block Chance: 6%, Mitigation: 19% (175)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 14%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Flurry / Puncture

[serene crane]

Yea 30% chance isnt that great, but I can afford having the points there I think... maybe Doppel isnt worth and traversal Smoke should be just enough to keep some shadows up for few extra procs; keep prefixes for +Hs/Recurve/Throw 🤔 I got some gear ready, just need lvls to try it out 😄 I got some pretty sick corrupted Doppel relic with t7 dopper and like tripple t6 and high %inc crit.. other than that, its either Artifice to boost the throw damage a bit but I'd rather use Shattered Words I guess

[serene crane]

poison is poison, bleed is physical bleed chance per sword prefix on body is ezpz pick there

[buoyant roost]

yes, I got 45 more potential on that armor

but the build at best might do abberoth, dont think it can go further

ofcourse nothing comes close to the power of shadow rend 😄

[wary cedar]

my idea would be -
use shadow rend traversel, its the lowest cooldown
then implement multishot in the build - self procced on bow attack and from shadow rend - drop puncture for it
since you will need more mana with this you can go the mana sustain route on heartseeker

[serene crane]

Yeah in 1.2 I got bleed DS to kill Aberroth and it was easy for 500corr mapping, but getting it geared to something higher is pretty painful 😄

[serene crane]

I'd rather not have Multishot on this tbh, as much as it would be nice for aoe clear 😄

[wary cedar]

why do you refuse? >:(

[serene crane]

I'll try some stuff today and see where it goes 😄 the Hs-Puncture was pretty okay when I was trying the bleed some time ago

[wary cedar]

puncture wont help against bosses tho

[buoyant roost]

share the build you have misery

let me take look

[wary cedar]

what build my current one?

[serene crane]

I'd have to be swapping between Drelkor and Fury... and traversal Rend... idk I wasnt a big fan of that either tbh, Smoke looks like better value

[wary cedar]

Smoke Bomb is 5sec

Shadow Rend is 3

with guile you can get it to below 2

i mean you could still play shadow rend without multishot

[buoyant roost]

whatever youa re talking about now 😄

[wary cedar]

i have no planner for this lol

[serene crane]

Also have you tried to craft Abandoned ring instead of the amulet? Swine/Omnis si surely better... Swine should be easy to get with LP 😄

[wary cedar]

or maybe take shadow cascade throwing - and play with shift and have that autoproccing along the way with doppelgaenger

idk if this would work lmao

[buoyant roost]

😐 what kind of engineer are you

[wary cedar]

wdym?

it's all in my brain

🧠

[buoyant roost]

until you get a brain fart, and its gone 😄

[buoyant roost]

I have a bunch of Swine around, omnis are tough 😄 only gotten 2. But the ring is WW, which adds to the duration of the Sword incraesed bleed (5%)

[wary cedar]

you can make yourself a planner for this if you dont trust your brain

[serene crane]

My brain is shiny, cute and smooth, any idea there slips right away

[serene crane]

5% is not some big deal tbh 😄

[ebon jungle]

unless 5% stacks its nothing burger

[serene crane]

Well the idea is something like this... just gotta see with Doppel, Im fine with crit like this, with Peak I could move some passives around I guess; but doppel helmet with relic is just quite nice for more Dusk stacks
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owLmWpra

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (21) / Marksman (67) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,652, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 106.6, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 10 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 105% / 116% / 119% / 93% / 81% / 90%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 530
▸ Dodge Chance: 45% (1650)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (853)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 21%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 15%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Puncture / Dark Quiver

[ebon jungle]

why 2 heirlooms

[wary cedar]

the more the more

you know

[ebon jungle]

All i see is wanting to get bonked for eternity

[serene crane]

The stuns arent real

[ebon jungle]

with 2.6k hp? lul

[wary cedar]

but you know, if you only focus on shurikens, but only try to get it procced with heartseeker - uhm... why not just play shuriken and directly cast that?

[buoyant roost]

Why the mana node on Heartseeker though

you think you gonna have mana issues?

[wary cedar]

ya thats useless

there will be no mana problems

[buoyant roost]

4 points there is a lot of investment

I would rather have the auto-blkack node

[ebon jungle]

Do you even play the game

[buoyant roost]

so at least I dont have to cast that shit all the time

[wary cedar]

what makes you say that?

[ebon jungle]

Shurikens on crit is a lot more dps than meets the eye

I guess unless youre not crit capped like me

[buoyant roost]

so each recurve has a chance to cast those shurikens right?

[wary cedar]

but he is investing zero in heartseeker dps

could just go direct cast shuricen and be more flexible with the build

[ebon jungle]

that i dont know. maybe?

if recurve crits then yeah

[wary cedar]

yes

[ebon jungle]

rather

if it counts as shooting it at first then it should

[buoyant roost]

my starter was pure shuriken build, and it slaps with dmg for sure

I guess this is "similar"

[serene crane]

I could play Rend/Shuriken BD but thats just boring... Shurikens from this shreds the bosses surprisingly fast 😄

And yea the mana nodes are pretty useless, I was just expecting to be losing mana a lot when I did the planner, cba doing math and stuff

[wary cedar]

i would highly recommend getting mourning boots and some dex
its boosts both, heartseeker and shuri dmg

that's the only way heartseeker - shuri would make sense

[buoyant roost]

with more dex you can get the recurve dex node as well

but the question is, what do you lose.

[wary cedar]

not playing mourning boots with heartseeker in any context is just blasphemy

[wary cedar]

nothing beside the res

[buoyant roost]

well that is cold dmg 🙁