🔪┃rogue

[ebon jungle]

but massive improvement going under a minute

I have stun chance on my blessing instead of cold damage so lets see how that changes things

[serene crane]

Stun can be pretty funny with some hard hitting skills 😄

[ebon jungle]

its stunning nemesis, beast so far but not rares, champs as much as i wanted to ideally as a defensive mechanism

so the cold dmg might just be better to finish them off quickly

[past sapphire]

seriously tho. would've been good for a bow build??

[serene crane]

With lowlife lightning LM I used to stunlock normal Abberoth most of the time, it just needs to hit big I think

[ebon jungle]

yeah its not bad at all if u need the crit. 58 is a good amount

28 multi is not something to look away from

[ebon jungle]

lm stands for?

imagine this when i get my swipe bear build going olvrin. with shockwave idols at 100% per melee swing were looking at stupid amounts of stun chance and that can easily stun anything in the game including abberoth. uber unclear but ill find out eventually

[serene crane]

Lethal Mirage

I guess that mace can do a lot of crazy things, If it works with some crafted set weapons too

[rancid jasper]

hello everyone, playing shadow cascade and getting every map the problem that my charakter get stuck and cant move or press any button. problem occurs only on this spec. any ideas?

[serene crane]

The one with Dancing Strikes I guess? Some people said a lot they're getting stuck, someone even mentioned it happens while you keep holding down the button for DS and ue evade... but I was playing with it like entire Friday I it didnt happen to me once

[rancid jasper]

yes with Dancing Strikes and holding the button. yesterday it occurs every few maps, but today at the new pinnacle boss and uber aberroths everytime

[serene crane]

Try to let go off the button before evading, it just might be a bit clunky to do 😄 hopefully it works and hopefully it gets fixed soon too

[rancid jasper]

will try it, thx for your reply 🙂

[ebon jungle]

i found the "best" solution to the mana issue i hda with burning dagger

[serene crane]

Hows that helping exactly? 🤔

[ebon jungle]

crit multi, 2 decoys to take their attention away, more shred, fire shred

and more dodge as well

its not the best tradeoff but its better than running around way too many times trying to get your mana back up

[serene crane]

oh, I just thought you had some mana on decoy detonation stuff or something like that

Falconer has a node, but its a bit further away

[ebon jungle]

not at all 😄 plus decoys are kinda life savers

475 crit multi after its gone

[serene crane]

Yea the crit multi is crazy good

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BM6893YL

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (27)

General:

▸ Health: 1,176, Regen: 43/s
▸ Mana: 136.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 17 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 6% / 11%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 235
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (119)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 6% (143)

Used skills:

Cinder Strike

[buoyant roost]

big cinders?

🤔

[serene crane]

There's an unarmed Cinder Strike punch falconer build too 😄

[buoyant roost]

no falconerooo

sulron step boots

[ebon jungle]

apparently these are 2 separate icicles lol

so you cast icicle twice

[buoyant roost]

not bad ?

[serene crane]

Mmmm, might throw Pillager's Gold/Shattered Words there, maybe Skin boots over Saluron... or Foot since you're pretty much standing still with CS

[buoyant roost]

In case of Pillager gold hmm completing kuzon set might be good

I think the set works for burning dagger released by it?

[serene crane]

Both is Burning Dagger so I guess it should work, yea

[buoyant roost]

interesting.. for mana regen I want to get flurry

but since no fire conversion flurry will deal almost no damage 😄

but it will be good to stack Ire

Reen's Ire*

shattered is a must I think because of the cirt chance. again missing it here 🙁

but I think getting marksman crit vurneablity is going to solve it

[serene crane]

Puncture might be also worth for the mana with Sapping strikes and Rapid Strikes, you're stacking attack speed already so it goes super fast too 😄 it also gives you Frenzy, so ez boost from corrupted idols/Shattered

[buoyant roost]

yeah. but Flurry has that node for mana regen. but worth a try.

[serene crane]

You get crit vuln from Bladedancer already so thats solved 😄

[buoyant roost]

oh yes completely forgot about that they added that node

[daring blade]

So my weird detonating arrow dagger build is... working? Ish? I realized though that there is a potential break even point between eliminating the mana cost with the dagger (I think it would take two of them?), gaining mana from free skills, and the % mana consumption. I need to math it out. Going to bed now though.

[serene crane]

Its some big investment, but if you go full big crits, maybe the Glass primordial amulet would big crits 😄 but would be to ideally get to 140% crit chance, not sure if critical vulnerability counts towards that

[sage flax]

i wish it was +2 to dex skills

[buoyant roost]

good question. but I think i go lowlife with primordial armor mb

[serene crane]

Sounds good aswell 😄

@buoyant roost btw Ive tried the Atropos sweord with t7 attack speed on the Rend and its super cracked... might be funny having two of them

[iron crane]

time to reroll the stats

pushing 2k corruption using SMK's shuriken bladestorm dancing strike

idk how far i can go

mapping is so easy

[wary cedar]

i only go to my fridge and back to my pc

[wary cedar]

😎

[serene crane]

You better get the corruption right

[wary cedar]

i will propl never use it sadly

[serene crane]

1200 ignite stacks, cooking

[sullen axle]

if i get dagger dance on shadow cascade does that make everything about it scale off of throwing as well? or just the daggers that fly

[serene crane]

Still melee attack speed, but daggers are thrown

[daring blade]

Hmm, so, couldn't sleep and did some math. If you reduce the mana cost of detonating arrow to zero (two daggers), then it no longer qualifies for the mana consumption on the passive tree, losing the 1.8x multiplier, but it does still consume from its own tree.

Simultaneously, because its literal cost is zero, it ought to regenerate mana from the passive tree, I believe. That gives it 23 mana per hit back.

The break even point, given no mana regeneration, is then 92 mana.

[wary cedar]

let's see if corruption hits

😔

[daring blade]

Free 7% more multiplier though

[wary cedar]

i want a very specific corruption affix there

so i wont use it

[serene crane]

Hows the damage on all of that?

[daring blade]

Well, it had been one-tapping a lot of tough enemies, but to make this work I'll have to give up some damage from the individual hit so I can spam it. It hits hard, but I'd been alternating with cinder strike to trigger flow.

So next question is what are the rest of my skills now? I had been using cinder strike and was gearing to do a combo melee and throwing crit build using the heartseeker helm to augment cinder strike, which was my main skill

[serene crane]

Explo trap for sure

[daring blade]

I might keep hs because the helm gives it strong dex scaling, and it buffs me

[serene crane]

DA - CS - Hs - Explo trap - Traversal Smoke ?

[daring blade]

Yeah I've got that, but I don't think the detonating arrow node works with the dagger. It'll just be the usual dusk shroud source.

I could actually go a different direction with CS and have it be my spender by taking the node to only use the first strike

I really wish I could lower the cost to 0 without the second dagger. I want to run the spreading flames scepter.

As far as I can tell the only way would be standing still via foot of the mountain, and that's not gonna work

[serene crane]

If DA has a melee tag from the dagger, then Explo trap should surely work with Hold This => Aspect; Trapuchet+Bombardment; No Man's Land; Trapas

[daring blade]

Yeah but I'm trying to ditch the throwing damage aspect. It'll just be a debuff, basically.

Unless the detonating arrow node works

[serene crane]

Its just big damage, elemental res shred and extra dusk stacks... sounds like a good value on something that just trigger by your melee attacks 😄

[daring blade]

For clear I'm actually thinking net-puncture

Not sure yet on that one

Or maybe just melee flurry

No, it needs to be more ranged so I don't have to track shit down

I think I'll just see how it feels with CS and DA. They both have large aoes

[serene crane]

CS is pretty nice with high attack speed and the mana gain nodes

[daring blade]

Yeah I was just checking, and it would be a net cost of 4 after the first 5 stacks

Actually wait, idk how I'll set it up tbh. I was gonna use it as my occasional spender to get the 1.8x from the tree

But it may fill too similar a role and with lower damage to DA in this scenario

[wispy hatch]

Anyone know which is better atm? Physical Rend BD or Fire Rend BD? I think fire uses Kuzon.

[sage canyon]

phys better

fire more casual/less buttons

[wispy hatch]

ty

[serene crane]

Its also fire shadow cascade, cant convert Rend to fire only to lightning

[crimson latch]

this can buff physical multishot ?

[brittle tartan]

Bladedancer leveling guide on Maxroll solid? Just getting into leaguestart from POE1.

[serene crane]

Yea its just gonna give it a cold damage 🤔

[serene crane]

Pick attack speed, flat damage some sustain from leech and you can really lvl up with anything; Rend can hit hard but is a bit slow and sustaining mana early on kinda sucks without mana regen here and there

Cant go wrong with Umbrals

[wary cedar]

it buffs everything

[copper radish]

which one would give better dps? (for uberroth?

[keen snow]

h2o made a pretty interesting Bo's Anarchy build last season for a challenge.
I haven't played rogue before but I was wondering if anything that changed in 1.4 could push this from interesting to pretty good.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6966jeo
It gets 100% block chance from turning glancing blow into block and has triggered shurikens when hit along with spamming shurikens via sync strike.

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 3: Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (10) / Marksman (15) / Falconer (59)

General:

▸ Health: 2,839, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 122.43, Regen: 7.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 51 Dex / 8 Int / 8 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 95% / 120% / 88% / 82% / 78% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 68%, Threshold: 568
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (724)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,623)
▸ Block Chance: 72%, Mitigation: 42% (1,385)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 32%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Synchronized Strike / Dark Quiver / Aerial Assault

[serene crane]

I'd say the first one... tiny bit less crit multi is whatever, but +2 and higher crit chance

[serene crane]

Maybe some altar to boost prefixes/suffixes?

[keen snow]

could use blade shield instead of deadly aim I guess

2x the proj but lose range

blade shield can hit the same target repeatedly & stack now right?

[serene crane]

Dont think you cant stack them, can only have like twice of them with Flip of a Coin for their duration and each should hit every time with the piercing node

[keen snow]

from the 1.4 patch notes

[crimson latch]

not bad

[serene crane]

Looks good then 😄 there is also Bladestorm you could check out, it can auto-cast shurikens but will cost you 4mana, but sicne you got Sapping Strikes anyway it should be super fine to sustain

[white knoll]

sesh

[wary cedar]

sesh

[frail bison]

so from what i can tell rogue has 2 bugs that increase recall's damage by about ~70% ish

just a heads up

this node seems to benefit from each smoke bomb you're standing inside (for up to +240% more damage instead of +120%)

if anybody else wants to test it

[wary cedar]

well it doesnt say anything about a Smoke Bomb Limit

so can we really call it a bug?

[frail bison]

it also doesn't say anything about being per smoke

but yeah i mean at the end of the day it'll be up to EHG to decide whether it's intended or not

🤷‍♀️

[wary cedar]

(they don't know either)

[frail bison]

it's intended if rogue was bad, but since it's broken rn it's not intended

😂

[wary cedar]

i dont feel included in this comment

[frail bison]

schrodinger's bug if you will

[wary cedar]

-kind regards, marksman player

[bitter prism]

average shadows

"why is my game lagging"

asked the clueless rouge

[serene crane]

Reduce shadows in settings

[bitter prism]

everything is already very low

[coral kelp]

How did you get that many shadows Lol

[desert bridge]

Its okay, you can only have 3-6 👍

No bugs here

[serene crane]

3-8, but yeah

[buoyant roost]

Which kind of rend

just pure dmg?

[serene crane]

Just on the bleed one, but I had nothing else on the sword so it wasnt really better 😄 the sword itself has like 15% attack speed aswell, on top of the doubled 52%

[buoyant roost]

yeah I can imagine the speed 😄

the shadow also has 500% modifier. it does great flat damage

but it feels weird to use for clear

I mean without cascade

[serene crane]

Yea just there isnt really a reason not to take Cascade

[buoyant roost]

unless you 2hander like I was trying 😄

[serene crane]

Orb Weaver or Merophage could be interesting with it

[crimson latch]

any hearseeker enjoyer?

[buoyant roost]

I head heatseeker or heartseeker, but hearseeker is new 😄

[crimson latch]

heartseeker sorry misspell

[serene crane]

Might have to wake up Misery for that one

[wary cedar]

you guys have to load the newest patch for that

[serene crane]

New patch 1.4.4:

• all items everywhere has been corrupted
• Marksman can dual wield bows
• Heartseeker update: the player is now the arrow

[crimson latch]

I think if Dark Quiver generated automatically without having to pick up arrows from the ground, it would be a huge buff for bow builds.

[buoyant roost]

What I woud liek though:
Shadow Rend -
New node: Shadowless
Shadow Rend does not create shadow
No mana cost

[buoyant roost]

It's been suggested like zillion times. But the dev seems to be vain. He cannot accept that the skill sux 😂

[crimson latch]

its fcking useless, i mean why the melee builds and throwing can proc like 5 skill in a row but bow users can't

[zenith sequoia]

Marksman should have it's own new gear slot, like cloaks that add another evasive defense layer 😛

[wary cedar]

i dont want to get my class more stuff

i want the other rogues class to get nerfed hard so they re as trash as we are

[zenith sequoia]

oooo vindictive angle I like it

[wary cedar]

(it''s better for game balance since marksman is the only balanced rogue class)

[buoyant roost]

you know, mobs need to feel good as well

"ah it's marksman, finally someone to kill easy"

[wary cedar]

they still have to reach me

and win the 50/50 on dodge

[serene crane]

Yea those Omen's Veil echoes with tripple active windows must be fun...

[wary cedar]

nah i can do that

aoe is good

[buoyant roost]

btw Hail of Arrows. Can that skill even deal any damage?

whenever I played it, it felt mega weak

[wary cedar]

i will never play it lmao

next season it's multishot time

[buoyant roost]

I guess next season will be like an acolyte patch

[wary cedar]

yoo wtf

arent we 1.4 rn?

[serene crane]

Yea thats what I was talking about few days ago

its very old picture from before 1.2 😄

[wary cedar]

i just googled le road map

that shows up

[zenith sequoia]

now we don't get it until the expac

[serene crane]

I dont really mind, but it better be good, not some crap like "huh, yea, here, 10% more damage If you use dagger"

[buoyant roost]

honestly, what i want is just an overview of all skills. Some skills like hail of arrows need complete revamp

[wary cedar]

Season 5 when?

[buoyant roost]

1h30 minute all idols/passivs. not bad ?

[wary cedar]

what

[serene crane]

6th rogue? 😄

[buoyant roost]

made a char 1h30 min ago. finished now with idols/passives

no 5th one. didnt start that day, remade that 2hander shit into marskman 😄

[wary cedar]

how many characters you got?!@?!?!?!?452

i only have 1 😭

[serene crane]

Corrupt it

[wary cedar]

already is
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ohthemisery/character/miiisery

[serene crane]

Joe is collecting off-meta builds like pokémons

[buoyant roost]

one shotting evrything is hardly fun :9

this is btw around my 30rd character overall in LE 😄

you dont wanna know the other frankensteins

[wary cedar]

i think i really want a T7 shuri affix on my quiver

so i can play my 3lp row without shuri affix

or maybe i just shit on shuri

idk

[buoyant roost]

so what does shuri does in your build

[wary cedar]

dmg

i just don't know how much % of dmg it does in total lol

if its like 5% i would just ditch it

[buoyant roost]

but you dont have throwing dmg?

[wary cedar]

do i need that?

[buoyant roost]

for shuriken? ofc. you dont have base dmg for throwing at all

your increasaed does nothing 😄

[wary cedar]

i have 4

plus mourning boots base dmg

[serene crane]

You get a lot of base damage ffrom boots 😄

[wary cedar]

is there a good way to test the dmg with/without shuris?

just hit dummy and see how the % is?

[serene crane]

Yea pretty much

[buoyant roost]

you cant really

EHG needs to add like dps meter

[wary cedar]

imma try

[zenith sequoia]

yeah it's dummy kill time usually

[wary cedar]

i dont kill dummy at all

i ll just look how low % he goes

[zenith sequoia]

then yeah how much % you do in x time

keeping in mind it has 100k hp regen

[serene crane]

No I dont

[bitter prism]

you can just have them out as long as they are in animation they stay, there were 2 bladedancers in the party

tho only your max amount takes effect

and I think game tweaked itself when I died

[wary cedar]

okay testing this is really annoying

[bitter prism]

wait the dummy has hp regen?

interesting

[keen snow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX6jsRAivMw idk how much of this build is still applicable but, while this kill was done offline it uses reasonable gear, it's just a bit of work to make HoA good afaik.

[tawny spoke]

can i get some help why am i getting DESTROYED in pinnacle of chaos

[wary cedar]

with shuri affix i get target dummy to 60-62% in 30sec
without shuri and my 3lp giga slam row i do around 64/65% in 30sec 😭

[tawny spoke]

im res capped and have ~2k hp

[wary cedar]

what is pinnacle of chaos?

[buoyant roost]

the omen boss with champions?

bosses*

[wary cedar]

i just keep my distance to the enemies there

[tawny spoke]

the omen thing

it took me like 7 tries

[wary cedar]

you just did it, seems like you dont need any help

[tawny spoke]

canb u change ur croosshair color

[tawny spoke]

??

[wary cedar]

no you have to purchase an additonal app on steam for that

even the devs use this one

[tawny spoke]

the devs use the steam app?

wats it called

[wary cedar]

Yolo🐭

i use it as well
i have an anime character as my cursor now

[tawny spoke]

i lose my cursor so much with this build

[wary cedar]

have you tried corrupting your cursor?

it may be unusable after that but the risk might be worth it

[buoyant roost]

no build guide? looks good

[serene crane]

Its in the comments

[keen snow]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/hail-of-arrows-marksman-guide latest version I think

[stable anchor]

HoA is still good, really good damage, unfortunately crystalwind is bugged with hydra arc rn

[serene crane]

About 30-35s on Aberroth kill with the ignite rend, not the worst, but its better for mapping 😄

[buoyant roost]

that's better than what I have. share your builder to check

[wary cedar]

tell me whats not bugged at this point 😔

[serene crane]

I still need to slam the ring and I have 26FP on the body armour, I just didnt bother with any of that yet... also slammed and corrupted amulet, this is just from Nemesis 😄
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgR1eYpR

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (75) / Marksman (9) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,748, Regen: 21.44/s
▸ Mana: 144.49, Regen: 13.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 30/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 27 Dex / 7 Int / 2 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 189% / 132% / 73% / 50% / 58% / 83% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 350
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (315)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (552)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shift

[buoyant roost]

whats that belt

[serene crane]

Righteous Fire roleplay

[wary cedar]

i kinda dont like playing with set items, slaming uniques feels just better imo

they should let us slam set affixes on uniques

[ebon jungle]

Apart from heartseekers mana gain is there any other mana gain that im not seeing i can take with heartseeker?

[wary cedar]

have you tried corrupting heartseeker as a whole?

[ebon jungle]

i corrupted your 2 dads

[wary cedar]

what was the outcome?

[ebon jungle]

Hows your uberoth going? Yes.

[shell hamlet]

Got a heartseeker build question. I got two Troaka quivers. One is 2 LP and high rolls. Other is 3 LP with mid rolls. I’m pretty new so not sure what is the best way to go forward

[ebon jungle]

Get the stats you want on both but corrupt the 2lp eventually

Keep the 3LP as your item to use

[shell hamlet]

How do I correct the stats on the 3lp?

[ebon jungle]

correct?

you mean reroll?

[shell hamlet]

Yea sorry

[ebon jungle]

find another 3lp and go to uh

[shell hamlet]

Got it. Thank you!

[serene crane]

If Nemesis egg gives you some crappy one with two affixes, you can corrupt it and it may get a third one, so it'll work as 3LP to reroll your other 3LP item

[ebon jungle]

^this

Is there some sort of freaking idea behind taking down ward/es quickly on mobs?

or is it meant to be that strong?

[serene crane]

Its just stupidly big... without the ward they melt super fast

[ebon jungle]

i melt uberoths hp pretty good but then his ward is just ridiculous

[bitter prism]

never really thought ward was an issue tbh its a decent balancing point

[ebon jungle]

holy shieet

the dps is just absurd with burning daggers and shurikens

Contemplated to give up rule of the simoon and use claws instead

[buoyant roost]

lvl62 🙁 need 70

[wary cedar]

3LP is very high chance on this quiver. And it can only low roll on two stats and those don't matter that much. Just take the 3lp and hope for a good corruption

[daring blade]

Reporting back on my DA shenanigans. I'm enjoying it. I need to solve my defenses, but I have some plans for that. I ended up ditching the attempt to combo with Kuzon's doing a melee/throwing build, and instead I have synchronized strike. It's... definitely interesting. Pretty zoomy.

[kind adder]

Anyone got an umbral blades planner I can cheat off of? I wanna try it on lowlife bladedancer but not sure if that works well. Never built for UB before.

[daring blade]

Here's the build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgR1ebPk

Like I said, I need to solve defense. I have some stuff I'll try. I also need to shift away from throwing damage on several pieces.

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 84

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (33) / Bladedancer (12) / Marksman (47) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,120, Regen: 17.76/s
▸ Mana: 465.28, Regen: 14.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 52 Dex / 11 Int / 16 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 124% / 144% / 149% / 121% / 68% / 139% / 54%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 237
▸ Dodge Chance: 26% (771)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (416)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 23%

Used skills:

Explosive Trap / Smoke Bomb / Detonating Arrow / Cinder Strike / Synchronized Strike

[wary cedar]

i have not looked deep into this, but why entwined for only one set?

can't you jsut replace traitors for the set sword

and play a more impactful primodial?

[daring blade]

That traitor's is a beast and hits really hard

I tried with the set sword. The damage was pathetic

[wary cedar]

the only difference i see is the crit multi and the +level no?

[daring blade]

Crit chance

I could try to craft a better one, but I don't have a good base yet

[wary cedar]

you could play wings of discord

gives crit

and can potentially double idols if you do a set up for that

it just seems kinda wasted with the ring

but whats the rotation in this build? i dont wanna read everything 😭

[daring blade]

Cinder strike until flow is full then nuke with either SS or DA

That's it lol

[wary cedar]

how do the traps get procced

[daring blade]

CS conveniently fills up flow

Hold this node

[daring blade]

I've been looking into alternate primordials, and that one is a big contender

[wary cedar]

could also provide the missing crit chances then

[daring blade]

Yeah especially boosting some crit dagger idols

[wary cedar]

getting just on idol with 60% crit chance, makes it 120% thats half a peak of the mountin xd

[daring blade]

Then you factor in prefix modifiers and yeah

[wary cedar]

do you need to always track the flow with this build?

i could never

[daring blade]

No, it's very easy

CS caps out at 3

Then you nuke

[wary cedar]

ah okay, so you do one full rotation of cinder strike

and the next attack is getting the buff then

[daring blade]

You hold CS as long as you want and then boom

And I have hella attack speed

[wary cedar]

do you really need the trap dagger tho?

[daring blade]

Honestly? I started it as an experiment to see what I could do with DA, but I'm thinking of swapping to purely SS.

I'd stay marksman, because the mana on hit node at the end is CRAZY good

[wary cedar]

how does cinder strike work when having a bow equipped?

is it somehwat equallty good?

dragonsong could be good then no?

[daring blade]

Not sure. That's actually another angle I was thinking of.

[wary cedar]

then you would need the entwined ring tho

[daring blade]

I think I'd actually go bladestorm with the trap relic if I did that

Storms throw traps, traps shoot DA

[wary cedar]

pillagers gold seems like ragebait, i dont see the value of this item

[daring blade]

I mean my belt adds 100 throwing damage

[wary cedar]

ah okay

[daring blade]

Could also go a different route: keep the ring, add Zerrick boots and belt, go heartseeker flaming dagger with Kuzon helm

[wary cedar]

i really love the heartseeker helmet

havent come by doing a build with it tho

[daring blade]

I was attempting it, but I don't think it's worth it. It would be better going all in with it.

[ebon jungle]

IVE FOUND THE MANA CULPRIT

YOU LIL DEMON

This only modifies Tornadoes cast by this effect. Consumes mana equal to 50% of Tornado's mana cost on cast.

[daring blade]

oof

[ebon jungle]

issue is when you have a bunch of heartseekers and and if i dare assume burning daggers which proc tornadoes

i cant even sustain mana

can go from 262 mana to 0 in just a few seconds

Witht he addition of shurikens I think its worth going for throw crit at this point

benefits both burning and shurikens

ill use decoy as my fire shred

god tier brainpower

[daring blade]

I presume you're using pillager's?

[crimson latch]

im having a blast with selfcast multishot 700k crits xd

[ebon jungle]

not at all

[daring blade]

Use pillager's and put T7 potion find on a Scavenger for 120 throwing damage

[ebon jungle]

and lose my whole def no ty

[daring blade]

What's your def?

[ebon jungle]

this gives me 500hp pluts survivability

[daring blade]

Ahh. I mean you could just put potion find on that and have 60 throwing damage instead

[ebon jungle]

100 throwing damage for burning daggers is not gonna do much

[daring blade]

I mean that's 3 T7 rings' worth of throwing damage

No sorry, it's 5

[ebon jungle]

if i get a 3-4LP brewmaster sure

but then again

my damage isnt just based on doing damage with burning daggers

[daring blade]

I have a thought on something new to try actually

brb...

[unique umbra]

SC rogue, not shadow rend
Should I go for +2% more parry and 5% attack speed or +17% crit multi between two daggers I'm looking at?
I"m leaning toward the parry for the survivability

[daring blade]

Wow okay, so DA bladestorm is nuts, and I'm swapping immediately

[crimson latch]

firs time that crit at slaming, it was 1lp lol

[unique umbra]

Can you link a video of what you're talking about

[wary cedar]

we doing multishot now?

[daring blade]

I just came up with the idea, and idk if anybody else is doing it. It seems obvious though. Bladestorm procs traps (via the relic) proc detonating arrow

[daring blade]

You have anything to slam it into?

[wary cedar]

what helmet does multishot use? xd

[daring blade]

I literally don't know, I've never played it lol

[ebon jungle]

enjoy double icicle casting now

[crimson latch]

i feel HS pretty weak

[wary cedar]

you need cold res

[crimson latch]

that shit is BIS? isnt? i can't belive i got crit at slam i thought it was a lie xd

[wary cedar]

did you chose the cold pen for the slam or what?

[crimson latch]

no, i choose the crit + attack speed, it was 1 lp then "crit" and i got 2 affixes :V

[wary cedar]

oh, you mean turtle crit?

or what

i am confused

[ebon jungle]

u want shurikens if youre already doing icicle

i dont know if double icicle is good

actually insane i tanked that for 7 seconds or so

-18% cold res and 35% void res

lol

claws make abberoth 30s or so

[daring blade]

Okay so while I was prepping to swap some gear around I noticed something

Everybody thinks this is a garbage amulet, right?

[ebon jungle]

havent seen anyone speak of it

[daring blade]

Well there's also this: you get poison chance per fire resist

Thing is, cinder strike converts poison from all sources to ignite

So you could get potentially 1.7x your fire resistance as ignite chance

It would just be for cinder strike, and you'd have to use the full set

[ebon jungle]

just use entwined

[daring blade]

Amulet is primordial

[wraith nacelle]

Question to the number crunchers do we think for RoW heart seeker that this spider silk quiver could be beater then troaks considering the implicit ?

[crude swan]

Guys i just got to monos lvl 60ish whats easier to gear for shadow rend or shadow cascade?

[ebon jungle]

this good?

[ebon jungle]

2nd is simply better. i assume youre cold conversion as well

[wraith nacelle]

yea , I was just considering for 10% multiplicative to slowed target

[cinder edge]

@crude swan

[dire pawn]

has anyone THIS season killed uber using ballista falc

if so

send ur builds

cause maxroll build is too squishy

YES IK ITS AN EVADE BUILD

but the dps on endgame pushing aspirational gear is not enough to survive

i have to be a god gamer for 5 minutes

[dire pawn]

and dps too low

[crimson latch]

holly

thanks nemesis

[ebon jungle]

6% more dmg to slowed enemies shit quiver

[crimson latch]

ikr

[ebon jungle]

do you actually go low life with that quiver

no plausible way to scale off the void damage anyway

[amber solstice]

I was 100% sure that this would happen)

[light tendon]

does rune of Ascendancy care about iLvl? E.G. if I want a set sword that requires level 42, does the item level / area level of hte sword I use matter?

[crimson latch]

:'c

[austere shadow]

Quiver void dam slam physical ???

[obsidian badge]

Rogue mains, think this is worth trying to build around for some weird shuriken/cold bow build?

[fading burrow]

there is

but need good gear to make the fight better

[lyric smelt]

should I use it orT6 melee attack speed gloves better?

can we shatter champion affix?

[cobalt mantle]

No, they are drop-only

[tawny spoke]

wat do u guys do with extra bad tabis

do u corrupt them?

[fading burrow]

yes

why not

we do corrupt bad roll stuff

[tawny spoke]

is this good for anything

[tawny spoke]

well i mean if it has no lp

[past sapphire]

where can i get the Mana gained on potion use affix?

[cobalt mantle]

It's an experimental affix, so as a drop from exiled mages or crafted in rune prison complex

[tawny spoke]

looks like u can use nem egg to lp ur primodials

[dire pawn]

LINK LO

[serene crane]

I run it with the ignite Rend and clearing echoes is pretty amazing, its just not fire skill itself so it sadly wont trigger the whisp effect... Ive tried it with Kuzon converting DS to fire but that felt too squishy

[fading burrow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oP6Y4Jep

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (30) / Falconer (55)

General:

▸ Health: 1,494, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 339.13, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 228 Dex / 133 Int / 32 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / -121% / 28% / -155% / 54% / 135% / 73%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 384
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (200)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 4% (83)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 12% (90)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 130%

Used skills:

Aerial Assault / Dark Quiver / Smoke Bomb / Falconry / Ballista

[gentle saffron]

Hey guys! I was just wondering for those who have tried it. Is "Bladestorm" any good?

I'm currently playing "Heartseeker" and I like it, but the videos I saw on Youtube about the Bladestorm build made me think I might've made a mistake going "Marksman", which I have invested heavily in gearwise.

So I wonder should I spend my last amount of gold respeccing mastery, from "Marksman", to "Bladedancer"(because I cba to level up another toon)?

Would love to hear your opinion on this 🙂

TL;DR: Is Bladestorm Bladedancer stronger than Heartseeker Marksman?

[sage canyon]

yes by a lot

bladestorm is just shuriken boost and shurikens op

also posted the uber combo for people who still strugling with oneshot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf8aEk0XRjE

[fading burrow]

any shuriken guide out there?

seems this build has small aoe

[sage canyon]

should be plenty on yt

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane cinder strike is officialy shittiest skill rogue has 😄

[serene crane]

Sounds about right... it was okay just for the quick mana gain and since your attack speed is high af, its also nice for the oil coating stacks... thats about it 😄

[buoyant roost]

imagine having like 260 flat damage, 1000% increaased doing shit

40+27 Kuzon, 38+35 Eye of Reen, 14x2 Sunwreaths, 24 Falcon Fists and +100 form falsewater fury while active

292 flat fire damage at 200% effectivness for Cinder First Strike = freaking 584 flat damage

[serene crane]

And doing no damage?

[buoyant roost]

it's complete shit

but fire cascade is good

[serene crane]

Might just do channeled cascade at that point, might be funny

[buoyant roost]

first I need to solve squishness. i die so easy 😄

but channeled cascade isnt for the throwing?

[serene crane]

Sadly yea, its stupidly positioned behind the node it locks it into throw 😄

[daring blade]

I tried a weird build earlier and gave up. I think it could be viable eventually but wasn't fun.

Basically using cinder strike to turn every point of fire resistance into 1.7% ignite chance and then trying to use flow to create huge stacks.

It was very tanky though. I could actually try to play around and within mechanics. But rather than zhp it was zdps, mostly.

It could clear low level empowered, but single target was rough.

Basically, ruby fang set gives fire resistance to poison chance, and some primordial amulet gives fire resistance to ignite. Then, cinder strike converts poison to ignite.

[serene crane]

getting Meteor champion affix and just do bleed converted into ignite would be better, together with the primordial Ember amulet you get some pretty sweet ignite chance, ignite penetration on body, helmet, boots, relic, then Cinder Strike for even more

[daring blade]

Yeah I'm not sure what wasn't working tbh. I may play with it more.

But that character went back to building detonating arrow melee, and that's actually going great. I use ravager's dart to build up extra buffs on top of cinder strike, and then I use flow to repeatedly let out high damage DAs.

Still need to scale mana higher with custom reforged sets, and I need a second really good Jelk.

[white knoll]

I totaly regret going srend recall

got bored of game so fast

[buoyant roost]

Have any of you guys receive any corruption that is like mega good and makes your build a lot betteR?

[wary cedar]

set all affixes to maximum

[buoyant roost]

ye, I think that is the best one for sure 😄

[wary cedar]

only on certain items tho, where the affix range gamble is crazy

[buoyant roost]

ye omnis nihilis etc

[wary cedar]

i think omnis is top1 generic amulet now with it

it got a bit overshadowed by nihils i felt like

35% crit chance, +2 level all skills, 45% for all res

it's also really easy to get, only 1lp, so you never miss slam

and bricked omnis from nemesis can also corrupt into all affixes to max, so you have a good item until you hit your 1lp omnis

[marsh sentinel]

Best I've gotten so far is frenzy + attack speed on a jasper, that was a ridiculous amount of attack speed from a single affix

[wary cedar]

this one is also good yes

[marsh sentinel]

but ye max rolled omnis is really insane

that + all res blessing almost completely solves res for you xd

[wary cedar]

only need one red ring

or element res + phys res + void res + some vitality

but red ring is more consistant to have always max res when shifting items around and stuff

[ebon jungle]

Tried burning dagger at 100%. You could have 5k mana and it wouldnt be enough :kekw

[hybrid kettle]

hello, how do u get the "50% chance to gain shroud stack..." ?
Same question for the last one "increased dmg with cascade per shadow"

[ebon jungle]

you have a open suffix/prefix whatever it needs then you upgrade it with shards is my guess

[hybrid kettle]

yeah but may i know why is the 2nd prefix stat green? i havent played since s1

[wary cedar]

shattered set item
there is a woven echo where you can shatter them

[serene crane]

%DoT on Eye of Reen but only t2... 😄

[hybrid kettle]

I thought you only get the shards to proc only the set effect from shattering them? 😯

[ebon jungle]

thats what hes saying

u find the items

use woven echo to shatter them

[wary cedar]

each set affix has some stats tied to it

you get them as well

[hybrid kettle]

nice to know, ty guys

👍

and also, is there any consistent way to get these yellow stats?

[wary cedar]

this is just a regular affix that got sealed

or wait

no

[hybrid kettle]

yeah but i cant find this affix in the filter, how come

[wary cedar]

i don't see it in the databasa neither

[ebon jungle]

abberoth under 30s now lol

need shuriken on quiver as well

i do wonder if it shoots twice instead of once

[wary cedar]

oh wait nevermind, i got confused, you posted a different affix

[hybrid kettle]

👀

[wary cedar]

it's the champion affix mirage champion's

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AOwNmQ

skill your weaver tree into champion appearances

[ebon jungle]

for those who care

[wary cedar]

so you would need the specific champion to drop you a T7 item
get used to bricking them because you will run out of FP

[ebon jungle]

If you get Shuriken on crit on bow, quiver Theyre 2 sperate attacks

One will shoot from the bow the other from the quiver

Thus have you doubled your amount of shurikens youre crapping out

[hybrid kettle]

wtf i completely missed this new thing

i gonna look for how it works, ty

[bitter prism]

its kinda annoying to get it gl farming

[hybrid kettle]

it doesnt sound exciting ngl

[wary cedar]

i don't think (i don't play bladedancer) this affix is "needed" for the build to work, so you can focus on a
--ward on shadow
--set affix
item first

[marsh sentinel]

not needed but it does make it feel a bit smoother to play. it's very rng if you actually find a usable one though so I wouldn't stress it too much. all you can rly do is focus champions with the weaver tree.

[serene crane]

If you get lucky by either empty prefix slot or with Removal rune, then just put throw damage/attack speed there and Havoc whatever t7 is into the one you want... Thats the annoying part

[past sapphire]

Yay! Finally 1 shot with blade dancer.

[wary cedar]

now do it the intended way

[past sapphire]

yeah gonna farm this boss for my erasing knight now 😄

[serene crane]

ngl, I could gear up UB Rend, farm Uber and be with the game over a single weekend... but then what... 😄

However, I wonder If running those UB-Dusk idols would boost my ignite damage more than just some ignite penetration idols 🤔

[sage flax]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BM6x6VLw in this build how do the Umbral blades get recalled?

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (74) / Falconer (11)

General:

▸ Health: 1,534, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 245.51, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 10/s
▸ Attributes: 77 Str / 56 Dex / 25 Int / 25 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 118% / 97% / 137% / 118% / 84% / 124%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 37%, Threshold: 835
▸ Dodge Chance: 56% (2312)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,552)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 79%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shadow Rend / Decoy

[serene crane]

manually

[sage flax]

and i need to get used to it i assume right?

[mossy vortex]

Return Protocol], located in the center-right of the tree

Umbral skill tree

[serene crane]

Yeah... you could also take Explosive Blades and dont worry about it too much, with few passive nodes slightly changed since you would no longer benefit from recalling them

[sage flax]

hmm, ye i just followed the build the second highest guy on the leader board is playing

[gloomy finch]

Hi! What's the best leveling build so far in rogue? wanna start a new one

[main cape]

how does the shadow rend build use explosive traps? I cna't figure out what procs them.

[wary cedar]

your fantasy

you only have to believe in them

❤️

[serene crane]

Rend/Bladestorm/Umbrals... just get attack speed and flat damage, ezpz

[wary cedar]

stop luring them to your side 😡

[serene crane]

Can play it with bow, relax

no attack speed or multi, but t7 corrupt is nice I guess

@buoyant roost whatabout some... dual rainbow cinderstrike? Can have Oil Coating to give elemental damage instead of only fire damage

[zenith sequoia]

That’s for lightning net

[serene crane]

Equally funny idea

Traversal lightning Rend+Lightning Shurikens and lightning Net

Dual Aurelis for some sweet sweet lightning DoT bladedancer

[copper radish]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1sjqiss/one_shotting_uber_in_duo_with_shadow_rend_recall/ on this video, he has like 70 shroud stacks before boss is up, I can't even go higher than 6. How tf does he do that

[serene crane]

Doppelganger helmet prefix

[copper radish]

which one is better set helmet or crafted helmet?

[serene crane]

I only get to like 45-55 stacks with this and my current attack speed, but he got Altropos so its even more attack speed

[copper radish]

yeah I farmed like 30 Lostwood Folly's

[serene crane]

Crafted since you also get ward on shadow creation prefix to make you stupidly tanky

[copper radish]

omw to spend 400k on helmet favors then

[serene crane]

If you get t7 ward and empty prefix slot, that would be ideal, but even with t1-5 ward prefix with empty prefix slot and t7 of something in suffix is also fine since you just slap Doppelganger affix there and just Havoc the t7 over ward/doppel

[copper radish]

I already have t7 ward on my chest but doubling it would be crazy lol

[serene crane]

alright, I super much forgot about these woven echoes... not a bad way to try farming out the +1 shadows gloves

[copper radish]

+1 shadows is better than liraka claws?

[serene crane]

Yeah, you already have ton of crit multi anyway

+1 shadow is more damage, more umbrals, more dusk stacks, better mana gain

[copper radish]

lets try the boss lol

im running out of mana before i can do the combo wth

i have %60 more attack speed than him holy

[gentle saffron]

Guys I'm seriously considering going from Marksman Heartseeker to Bladedancer Bladestorm/Shuriken. Because I cba to level another character up to 89.

HOWEVER, I've spent millions of gold on gear from the market for my Heartseeker build and now I have to start from scratch again. with both gear and skills which means I will hit like a wet noodle...

What should I do? I can't make up my mind 😦

[serene crane]

Do you have the mana nodes on Cascade? Some mana regen can also help nicely

[serene crane]

Wouldnt some 1LP gear for be affordable?

[gentle saffron]

I'm gonna have to use my last bit of gold to respecc and after that I have like 700k left. But yes you are right, since I don't have much left I can always start small gearwise and build as I get more gold.

[stray tangle]

I have a shadow rend multi-shot bleed build I’m working on, trying to figure ways to scale it more. Some sources online are suggesting ailments caused by shadows scale with increased damage for skills used by shadows% does anybody know if that’s correct?

[ebon jungle]

600 crit multi on throw

[serene crane]

No idea about the prices, but Entwined ring with doppel helmet+relic; last bear gloves+body / melee attack speed and +1 shadows with doppel body armor; Abandoned amulet; blue Keplahan ring; Jormun sword and belt; Ferebor dagger is a solid starter for shadow daggers Rend... ideally you'd want crafted Jormun sword and dagger with crafted Doppel helmet and body with ward on shadow creation and SD penetration... but shouldnt be too hard to craft later on

[copper radish]

I still can't get above 40 stacks, is the only difference that matters t7 shadow chance on relic? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdzJyjOe

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (68) / Marksman (20) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,767, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 300.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 26 Dex / 13 Int / 13 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 37% / 37% / 37% / 45% / 70% / 112% / 73%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 25%, Threshold: 353
▸ Dodge Chance: 37% (1317)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,652)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 34%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 109%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Umbral Blades / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Bladestorm

[copper radish]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3ZlZ5by and this is mine

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (68) / Marksman (19) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,696, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 247, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 20 Dex / 7 Int / 7 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 73% / 30% / 45% / 83% / 91% / 106%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 473
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (626)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,414)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 87%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade

[serene crane]

Yeah its a big difference

[river lily]

bro the market is dirt cheap/ 1lp gear is basically free. for affixes just dont buy the max t7 affix. for example if you need t7 throwing damage instead of 26 buy the 24. that should basically be free. 700k way more than enough

is heartseeker really that bad? lol

@wary cedar how is cold heartseeker feeling? was thinking of making one but can't get the corrupt on icicle chance

[sage flax]

is this able to hit the same enemy more then once

?

[kind adder]

Good question, try it out on target dummy and see. Should be pretty easy to tell.

I doubt it.

[sage flax]

Its hard to tell but it dosent look like it

[kind adder]

I imagine that makes single target absolutely abysmal.

[sage flax]

it would make it alot easier to hit the boss for sure

[wary cedar]

you dont need that tho

[kind adder]

Can only one blade hit if you just do a normal recall? Or will all of them hit without that node?

[river lily]

ok i see the single target damage is decent without? i wanted to try and kill uber with it lol

[wary cedar]

it's alright, shuri affix should be more dps than icecile corrupt tho

[river lily]

which one is that one?

[river lily]

no the shuriken corrupt

[serene crane]

🫡

[river lily]

thats sounds pretty good

[serene crane]

Also, try +1 shadows Mirage gloves with t7 throw damage instead of Lirakas, ideally with also t5 attack speed

[sage flax]

thats the dream tho

[serene crane]

Its not exactly any hard to get tbh

[sage flax]

well for me 90% of the time i try an remove and affix the t7 gose poof

[serene crane]

Yea that sadly happens to me way too often... but theres a lot of ways to farm Champions, getting Mirage gloves with a t7 affix shouldnt really take too long, just need to get lucky with crafting

And the drop is always on gloves at least

[sage flax]

true, im still trying to get one where i can have the bear set crafted on aswell

[serene crane]

True, I forgot about that one 😄 those would be the ideal one, yea

[half oxide]

worth changing to unique even though its not the one I need?

[sage flax]

then its time to farm a better main hand weapon

[half oxide]

playing marksman

[serene crane]

Put the 0LP unique in Nemesis egg and see If you get lucky with LP on it

[half oxide]

Was this directed to me?

[tawny spoke]

any advice on how to get the +ward gain on shadow chest? do i just spam exalted chest prophecies?

@serene crane btw u can put 0lp in eggs i got a lp1 out of it after a few tries

[serene crane]

Yeah

[buoyant roost]

you can redemption or havoc it

like for example find T7 that has missing prefix

and then havoc it

[serene crane]

Yea, pretty much the easiest way to get it... technically you can get any tier of it with anything else on t7 and then havoc it, but it can just burn through the FP a lot

@buoyant roost hey, wanna be a Forge Dancer?

[buoyant roost]

haha. my best build last season was the forge guard sentinel 😄

[serene crane]

I think what EHG missed big part about thise Omen/Shattered mirror season is some kinda of mechanic where you could either pick a skill from another class, inluding its skill tree like some kind of "fractured personality" or another version of "Fractured personality" item/enchant/unique idol that would be like a Primordial, only wearing one at the same time... or perhaps more but at more negative way that would affect your character 😄

[tawny spoke]

i barely have havocs

[sage flax]

farm the profecy 22x rune and hope you get them if you are CoF

[serene crane]

Best should still be to run those rune prophecies inside Tombs/Cemetaries

at least according to one Reddit post and @ Kaj here, didnt try it myself... Im too lazy for that 😄

[buoyant roost]

maybe that will be those skill sigils 😄

[sage flax]

Im doing that and i think on avg i get 1 more then if it was in a random echo

[serene crane]

I hope so... could be really cool 😄 imagine those Ash boots that would give you fire Aura of Decay 😄

[buoyant roost]

that would bring so many options

and bugs probably :d

[serene crane]

100% 😄

or long time features

[sage flax]

you mean intended game mechanics?

[tawny spoke]

can i make this better

[serene crane]

Could double Removal and hope the throw stays, attack speed in prefix and Last Bear set in suffix

[tawny spoke]

last bear?

[serene crane]

yea its a set

[tawny spoke]

why do i want that

[serene crane]

Extra melee phys damage and endurance, some builds run Last Bear body over Doppel body so thats another full set for Entwined ring aswell

[tawny spoke]

the 2 set just gives endurance threshold per strength

[sage flax]

ye but if you get the full set its another skill point and some stats from the entwind ring

[serene crane]

ezpz defense layer... but with the attack speed and last bear its some very nice gloves 😄

[sage flax]

with my luck i would have lost the +1 to shadows and t7 (:

[tawny spoke]

the build im looking at uses abandoned on the ring, do we get anything the 2set?

we dont have weavers will weapons right

[sage flax]

its just for the ring effect afaik

[serene crane]

Fire Cascade doesnt; Uber one shot cascade Umbrals uses Atropos weaver sword

[sage flax]

dosent phy's ver also use it?

[tawny spoke]

well so i can replace abadoned for last bear?

[serene crane]

Rend umbral is physical... thats what I meant... 😄

[sage flax]

aaaah ye

[serene crane]

Abandoned ring is just super easy set completion with the Entwined ring

[serene crane]

What build are you looking at again? 😄

[tawny spoke]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-rend-bladedancer-guide

pretty good?

[kind adder]

Looks like all the blades do hit actually. The skill description says thrown blades can all hit the same enemy and recalls blades can as well

[tawny spoke]

is this workable?

[sage flax]

hm interesting time to test it vs uber abby

[tawny spoke]

or this

[serene crane]

Last Bear will still boost your Rend damage since its not converted to anything... + you can use the gloves for the uber oneshot build 😄

its there aswell

[tawny spoke]

is it possible to reroll the implicit

for a higher roll

[serene crane]

Put like t1/t2 doppel prefix there, seal it and just %inc shadow cascade dmg per active shadow

[tawny spoke]

oh shit it hit lmao

[serene crane]

Why no egg

[tawny spoke]

i tried to and it didnt work

[sage flax]

cant when corrupted

[tawny spoke]

before i mean

with my other omni

plus if u egg and then corrupt can u still slam stuff into it?

[sage flax]

No you need to egg - hope you get 1LP+ then add the affix you want in the dung, then you corrupt and hope it dosent brick

[tawny spoke]

should i risk the t2 lol

[tawny spoke]

thats so spooky

[serene crane]

Yea, worth it 😄 worst case you still get %inc damage by skills of shadows

[tawny spoke]

ill try it with my other omni

[sage flax]

ye i had 2 stash tabs with bricked items :))

[tawny spoke]

damn T_T

ok nice i was able to seal the t2 dopple

[serene crane]

Still, keep the bricked corrupted 0LP Omni around to possibly reroll another 0LP Omni with bad stats => egg it

[tawny spoke]

now this right?>

[serene crane]

Yea

[sage flax]

now corrupt and 🙏

[tawny spoke]

BRO NOOO

thats too scary

[sage flax]

everything i have is and its not often things get bricked

[tawny spoke]

would imprinting traitors tongue be good

[serene crane]

Well you could either uprage the suffixes or reroll the affix values to get a bit higher damage and ward, but thats fine

[tawny spoke]

i need to fix my weapons

is it possible to glyph on envy a dagger into a scepter

[buoyant roost]

no

[serene crane]

No, it just changes the base of the item, not type; it would still stay dagger

[serene crane]

And yea, should be easy to get from imprints

[tawny spoke]

oh i thought it was based on the slot

i have one

[serene crane]

The imprint wont take it away from you 😄

[tawny spoke]

i know im saying idk if its worth imprinting it

its lp2 but not best rolls

[serene crane]

Its fine, I have Sunweath ring and Tabi boots imprinted and I see them fairly often from everything

[tawny spoke]

wat do u want from tabis

why imprint

[serene crane]

Just more food for turtle 😄

[tawny spoke]

tuirtle?

[wary cedar]

he meant dog

[serene crane]

Its a woven echo, you can throw bunch of uniques with LP there and gamble for the same item but with extra FP

[sage flax]

@serene crane https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bjqdq92v anything you would change? other then getting a better relic and +1 shadow on gloves

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (74) / Falconer (11)

General:

▸ Health: 2,738, Regen: 39.79/s
▸ Mana: 231.51, Regen: 11.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 42%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 73 Str / 34 Dex / 21 Int / 26 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 51% / 62% / 51% / 129% / 122% / 109% / 59%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 1,174
▸ Dodge Chance: 20% (678)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,106)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 90%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shadow Rend / Shift

[serene crane]

Yea, the sword for sure 😄

[sage flax]

what changes?

i do have this

[serene crane]

Katana base, t7 speed/t7 crit multi; armor shred, chance to blind

[sage flax]

so no focus on Phys dmg?

melee phys*

[serene crane]

Slice the Legs in UB perhaps just to get enough bleeds whenever you drop %bleed chance from sword

[serene crane]

Its okay on katana I'd say... up to 50% implicit; t7 speed, t5 flat phys

[sage flax]

Okii

do i just seal the set?

[serene crane]

Yea, ideally t3

[sage flax]

getting there

[bitter prism]

like so far this is just worse than eye of reen right is there a reason to use it over a reen

[buoyant roost]

t8 shred and t9 chance to blind

[bitter prism]

+1 level of skills is not really necessary after having 3 complete sets

[serene crane]

also in Rend 2 points from Moon Frenzy to Exposed Weakness and Intensity is just more damage; 1s Frenzy is good enough since you spam it anyway

[serene crane]

t69 minion damage

[sage flax]

only have 1 reen atm

[tawny spoke]

are either of these useable

[serene crane]

Points from Duelist => Skiasynthesis also look like better damage tbh

[ebon python]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/warrioravi/character/aviopalite playing the immortal stone shadow cascade/rend build - tips for next upgrades or changes?

[bitter prism]

also one question I have for ward rend, I have about 10k ward but still just get tapped when I dont dodge, whats the point on swapping t7 ward on shadow to just cascade damage

[serene crane]

You can get t1 Jormun on the second belt and just seal it, then get whatever you need in the prefix, like %fire damage or mana regen

[tawny spoke]

do i need crit avoidance?

idk if thats covered somewhere else

[serene crane]

Can always go for more damage, t5 ward is super fine... Uber slams will one shot 99% time anyway; but at some points when I had like 10k+ ward I was facetanking t4 julra blast, so its not bad either

[serene crane]

Not really you can always Blind enemies... just the ones not blinded might crit you 😄 but with the high ward and not some crazy high corruption, it shouldnt be some huge problem... maybe only If your ward gets low cna get slammed by Lagoon or some crap like that

[tawny spoke]

is this ok lol

[serene crane]

Yea, very 😄

[tawny spoke]

i just havoced throwing damage

lol

[serene crane]

lightning shurikens are slowly comming together

[serene crane]

triple 1LP Tabi drop from cache imprint

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane you know what Xd fire cascade not bad at all

[tawny spoke]

lol

[serene crane]

Yea its pretty good 😄 it looks nice, fire converted DS also look nice

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane ill show you soon, just need some more items

[serene crane]

Biiig 😄 playing some crit one? 😄

[buoyant roost]

that damage is without falsewater fury 😄

[serene crane]

The only shame is we cant channel melee Cascade... 😄

[buoyant roost]

i need the crit amulet and I have no bones. kjreqlkw

[serene crane]

Could buy some for the omen fragments

[buoyant roost]

ye was thinking about spending it on it

[sage flax]

what would i want on the Reen? t7 speed and?

[serene crane]

t5, t5, t4 and t4 corruption... actually not bad... 😄

[buoyant roost]

ye not bad for a dot build for sure

[bitter prism]

uh a lot of options for lp2

you can go crit multi phys melee armor shred etc

general stuff

[tawny spoke]

Do you get guarantee more affix with higher lp items or do you always just guarantee one

[serene crane]

Only one, rest will be random

[tawny spoke]

And the item has to have 4 affix

[serene crane]

Yep, non-sealed

and I believe non-corrupted

[tawny spoke]

Okok

[serene crane]

non-set too

[tawny spoke]

So in theory you really want something with 4 affix ur ok with getting

If that’s even possible

[hybrid kettle]

Do u guys think ward by shadow creation is good on lowlife build?

🤔

[serene crane]

Yea pretty much, unless you just risk it

[serene crane]

Yea, it just makes sure your ward stays up so you dont die... and not dying sounds good

[hybrid kettle]

i have never seen anyone using it, only with classic high life build

i gonna try it then once i will have more havoc

[wary cedar]

man i haven't played LE today 😭

and it's already so late

[buoyant roost]

where ideas

[wary cedar]

cold acid flask

[buoyant roost]

rogue with catalyst 🙁 i prefer duck lips

@serene crane suloron or army of skin

[serene crane]

Army

[buoyant roost]

i need to farm it 🙁 got only 1 with no lp

[sage flax]

after 20 runs of 22xx rune a bit dissapointing

[wary cedar]

just farm the dinos

[buoyant roost]

thats really not that bad

[serene crane]

Now... bladestorm that throws cold traps and cold flasks ?

[wary cedar]

would require two attacking skills

not really viaable

only if we throw it with traps

but that's just copypaste build

[serene crane]

You know, sometimes you just have to reinvent the wheel just to realize you're going in circles

[sage flax]

maybe im gonna move to more throwing dmg

[wary cedar]

or refuse to adapt and drive a car with squares

[buoyant roost]

haha . just slammed one army of skin with hybrid hp. corrupted it -> removed T7 affixes

guess you win some

[serene crane]

I guess it... skinned the affix off...

[ebon python]

Is this as nice for heartseeker as it looks? Found it off an omen window.

[buoyant roost]

no. just unique to max on 2nd one 😄

[buoyant roost]

it's decent. if it didn't have that chill immunity total shit though

[ebon python]

I saw some similar idols on MG for 2M gold, what do people look for on heartseeker?

[buoyant roost]

that is general good enough for any heartseeker build

[ebon python]

Was just wondering if people want diff affixes

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane time for testing

although I need to get amulet with LP1

[serene crane]

Need to grind those beasts 😄

[hybrid kettle]

man i hate crafting so much

never enough havoc

never high fp

sealing failed on t2 affix

[buoyant roost]

I don't know. it feels kind of slow

[hybrid kettle]

how many corruption

is that the double kuzon swords

[ebon jungle]

underrated stat for dragonsong

[buoyant roost]

The crit discrepancy is wild though in this game

[serene crane]

It can chunk some damage, just needs to be somehow faster 🤔

[buoyant roost]

you see some crits are huge

[serene crane]

meanwhile I nearly one-phased 1400corr Lagoon with the ignite Rend

[buoyant roost]

that's some good stuff 😄

[wary cedar]

you need a new playlist bro

[hybrid kettle]

lol i didnt unmute it

too cozy for blasting boss ngl

[buoyant roost]

it's a great song!

[buoyant roost]

I think 15% pen will help on amulet for sure

[wary cedar]

thats not a playlist for brainless echo running

[serene crane]

Mmmmm, not sure tbh what would be the best with that setup

[ebon jungle]

https://youtu.be/YTsOPAv0L3Y what yall think of the damage thus far lel

drastically improved

gotta love decoy lol

applying the fire shred i need and then giving me 60%+ crit multi

at the same time its taking away their attention

[serene crane]

Looks great 😄 and funny af with the shurikens 😄

[ebon jungle]

I cant really corrupt my 4lp its too strong defensively but im trying to get another one

And if i hit another shuriken on that..

icicle is useless for me

[buoyant roost]

some more armor shred would do you good

youre getting artound 60-70, you wanna be 100-120

[ebon jungle]

what do you think my old bow had 🤨

I was at 400-600 armor shred

[buoyant roost]

oh yeah we talked baout it

thats too much 😄

[ebon jungle]

well thats what like 122% armor shred does on a bow lol

you simply hit too fast kek

Is this worthy of dropping 5 points on

Or is glancing blow strong

[buoyant roost]

usually you want to have 100% glance

[serene crane]

Its a good node, but I wonder... this in Bladedancer, would the procced shurikens give you Dusk stacks? 🤔 It just going more points into BD for the throw damage stuff

[buoyant roost]

watch the video, hes getting around 10 stacks

I think not enough?

[ebon jungle]

its cuz of Q

smoke bomb

otherwise im getting 3-4 with hs

[serene crane]

Well every stack is 5%

[ebon jungle]

this would fix my shred issues 100%

and i could focus on getting fire pen on the bow and corrupt for shurikens

that way ill be much stronger

[ebon jungle]

too many points for nothing tbh

[serene crane]

Its to scale shurikens better witht he throw damage

[ebon jungle]

i get it but its out of the question

gotta give up too much

dropping 2 points from that on to the shred gives me over 100 stacks of shred now

[serene crane]

Yea its a lot of points 😄 but I just wonder If the Dusk shroud proc would work from tirggered shurikens or not

[wary cedar]

there is not one flurry player in the ladder leaderboard

can we fix that?

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKg9g57v

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 84

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (30) / Bladedancer (66)

General:

▸ Health: 2,444, Regen: 43.76/s
▸ Mana: 126.43, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 32 Dex / 0 Int / 0 Att / 0 Vit
▸ Resistances: 122% / 28% / 28% / 153% / 23% / 38% / 60%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 489
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (331)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (398)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 12%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 120%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Shift / Cinder Strike / Synchronized Strike / Smoke Bomb

[ebon jungle]

either way 2 points in to that allowed me to take down abberoth with him just doing his phase 1 time lo

[serene crane]

Hear me out... channeled flurry... mountain boots... Abandoned ring+Entwinned... double Atropos with t7 attack speed and extra attack speed corruption... pure shredding machine

[buoyant roost]

I killed abberoth last season with flurry

marksman

[serene crane]

Now time to kill Uber 😄

[ebon jungle]

Not even enough damage to take down shield

Takes too long and skill issues

im supposed to have close to 4k hp by now not 2.5k

[serene crane]

Rough life :c

[wary cedar]

can we increase area of acid flask to cover the entire screen?

[buoyant roost]

you can try to zoom in or something

[serene crane]

Maybe with dual Drough dagger, Elecoe, Artifice relic, some affixes with area of effect

Probably not full screen, but might be a decent size 😄

[wary cedar]

new unique idea: the more you re zoomed in, the more dmg increase you get

[buoyant roost]

100% increased area of effect, but you can only see your shoelaces

[ebon jungle]

146 rune of asc time to get red ring

can you asc a ring to a red ring?

or is it drop only

[serene crane]

You can, its a world drop just as any other... almost

[buoyant roost]

cept I havent found a singler one 😄

admitebly never chased prophecies for it

[ebon jungle]

Got an idea how to min max this shit

[wary cedar]

Filter for Circle of Fortune Rings and only ascend those

[ebon jungle]

wdym only cof rings can or have best chance?

[wary cedar]

they have a chance to not consume the rune

[ebon jungle]

til

[wary cedar]

you need like

idk

Rank 8/9/ or 10

of CoF

idk the exact rank, but you unlock it with one of them

[ebon jungle]

how many conq towers? yes

64 conq towers here i come 4lp items

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost not some giga damage, but it just works 😄 killed Uber with not so higher numbers with the bleed rend 😄 boss dummy, 800corr dragon+harb, t4 Julra, Aberroth
https://youtu.be/IS0acS6XaFU

[buoyant roost]

discoooo

[serene crane]

Zohan disco-disco fidget spinner

[buoyant roost]

it works good enough.

[serene crane]

It works better on mapping, everything just burns 😄

[buoyant roost]

160 corruption. wtf man 🙁

[past sapphire]

would these exalted prophecies help to get t7/t6 exalted items?

[boreal walrus]

Sometimes I was lucky with a double T7😂

[tawny spoke]

I mean yeah if you fulfill the condition u get 7 exalted daggers

[past sapphire]

i meant double or triple exalted ones.

[fading burrow]

no lol

thats lotto chance

[past sapphire]

ok. good to know. so i wont waste my favors on it

[tawny spoke]

I mean it GUARANTEES exalted under those conditions so by virtue of that alone it should make getting multi exalted more likely since you’re just getting more of them?

[potent rune]

No exalted prophecies are godawful

[tawny spoke]

more exalted = more chances at the lotto with alert 1 exalted affix

[potent rune]

You can spend 300k and get maybe like 2 1t7 1t6 after that

Rest is 2t6 gear

[maiden gyro]

Can confirm

I went through a lot getting a 2 t7 last season for my dragonsong lol.

[potent rune]

Bu that point could had 3lp boots 😅

[tawny spoke]

yeah but u get ALOT less without running them

so

[potent rune]

I mean maybe they worth for you , I rather run conquered tower than spend heaps amoun tof favor that can net me 3 4 lp items than exalts prophecy so

Cof drops too many t6 ,if its bonus was actually affecting more the exalts then it would be better as it stands its as bad as the 1 lp prophecies

[fading burrow]

too many t6 and shitty t7 with shitty fg

[maiden gyro]

Had a 3lp dragonsong x2 last season and both bricked I cried and stopped playing lol.

[potent rune]

Yeah julra feels godawful after a while

[maiden gyro]

I liked Diablo sanctification.

That was fun.

Getting rng of getting an item with t7 t7 t5 or anything close with stats I care about is enough rng, let a lone julra yanking the one I don't want twice.

Sanct was just x random affix added/quality added which is just bonus stats, or affix removed lol you.

Was fun. Had tons of mats and items to constantly try and roll with to get a good sanctification role. Never did get what I needed but I got a lot of good stuff, just not amazing.

[potent rune]

I had like 8 3 lp 3t7 titan hearth slams ready for my warpath this season and they all bricked at julra kinda hard to feel excited about that and just feels bad kinda crazy no qol got touched in the crafting or julra this season

[maiden gyro]

But you can add even more rng ontop and corrupt it, and then brick it even if your 3lp hits.

[potent rune]

I would corrupt the extra ones and keep one but hey I got none , I corrupted all the fails but nothing good

At least my erasing strike slam hit first try not corrupting that 😅

Still waiting for my 1 lp horizon corrupt to give me something useful and good after 15-20 tries

[stray tangle]

Hey does anybody know how imitated skills are considered for the marksman node where %mana cost -> % more damage?

Like is multishot getting its mana cost in more dmg or the shadow rend cost or the imitation consumption cost

[tawny spoke]

wat do u spend ur cof on then

[potent rune]

Uniques mostly rings,boots,body armour,you name it

[violet trellis]

so is that the set chest piece? If so how do you get the T7 on it...

[stray tangle]

Corrupting the set item and getting lucky

[violet trellis]

I was afraid of that

[void meadow]

you have reforged affix you can use

[serene crane]

• You either corrupt the set item and get lucky; or you can shatter the corrupted item into shards (unless it either gets Ruined or remains the same set item just "corrupted"); you can also shatter set pieces in The Great Bridge Woven echo (can shatter "Ruined" set pieces there too)
• then you ideally find the item with t7 of what you need and an empty prefix/suffix slot => put the set prefix shard there => seal it with Despair glyph (sealing t1 is enough, but some tiers are better at like t3, but thats getting more lucky) => it still remains functional set item and you can craft it further
• otherwise you either need to seal t1-4 (t1 is easy free) to make room for the set affix; or gamble with Removal rune
• either way you can still get unlucky with Forging Potencial
• while upgrading whatever affix you want to keep and the item is basically good as is, you can use Envy glyphs to change the base item

[void meadow]

^ adding https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/resources/set-items-crafting

[violet trellis]

Oh you an shatter corrupted items, that's cool. I want the crit avoidance though so maybe just gambling time...

[serene crane]

Yeah thats just gambling 😄 but there is a chance you get some pretty cool result... but If you craft it yourself, you can also use Envy glyphs to upgrade the affix tier and this glyph also changes the base, so it can turn into this one too

[violet trellis]

ooo, i'll try that too cheers

[half oxide]

Hey guys I seemed to have hit a plateu in damage, im lvl 75 and cleared most echos up to 80. I can kill 90 mobs but not the boss. The gear I need drops from the tier 90 echoes.

Playing heartseeker from Maxroll

[serene crane]

What gear do you have? Surely it cant be so bad

[half oxide]

I still need to unlock idos

[serene crane]

Yea 100% 😄 and definitely look for some amulet, blue one is a bit outdated

[half oxide]

ill have to take the filter off

[serene crane]

Did you make one yourself or are you using some premade one for the build for endgame loot? 😄

[half oxide]

premade one from maxroll

put it on strict