🔪┃rogue

[serene crane]

The time spent to farming such sword is crazy not worth it... and also close to unreal 😄

[buoyant roost]

what you playing now

[serene crane]

The uber kill could definitely be smoother and less messy, but it is what it is 😄

[wary cedar]

GUYYS LOWKEY

[serene crane]

started the ignite DS 😄

[wary cedar]

doing a challenge between us would be hella cool

[buoyant roost]

ohh a competition 😄

[wary cedar]

and motivation for playing

[buoyant roost]

with wild ember?

[serene crane]

Yep 😄 but its lv72, so its gotta wait a bit 😄

[serene crane]

lol what challenge

[wary cedar]

idk
maybe we all start a new build thats mega niche or something

[buoyant roost]

would be really nice to compare.

[serene crane]

Want my planner for void DoT bladedancer?

[wary cedar]

thats niche but not niche and cool

[serene crane]

its niche and edgy... edgy is cooler than cool

[wary cedar]

or maybe some challenge build

like we all get the same skill for doing dmg

and thats the only dmg skill we re allowed to cast

[serene crane]

"On today's episode of TopGearEpoch, Misery will cause nuclear fallout in Imperial Era by Acid Flask, CJoe will start a civil war by accidentaly having too many Decoys and Olvrin Lehal Mirage'ed himself into not-yet-released Last Epoch expansion."

[wary cedar]

no all the same skill

[serene crane]

I guess its doable, just need to lvl up to those skills first

not even 10k

[buoyant roost]

level 13

[serene crane]

I think I had like 3-4k Cinder 😄

[daring blade]

I lucked into a crazy weaver sword. T7 attack speed, some crit mult, and other goodness. Running it with the weaver set makes it grant 72% attack speed.

[serene crane]

Damn, insane luck :c

[buoyant roost]

someone lil jelly

[daring blade]

I made a new character just for it

[serene crane]

I think the best I have is like t6 speed and some low tier bleed chance

[daring blade]

Also got this in offhand https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/FVKE42nKm6

[buoyant roost]

the thing is what skill do oyu use

[daring blade]

I'm going for a throwing-focused shadow rend

So I don't need the flat damage off the weapons

[buoyant roost]

I think with that attack speed and sword bleed is best

[daring blade]

It's still crit focused. Why bleed?

[serene crane]

Salt gloves to convert it into bleed pen

[daring blade]

Ehh I'm just running throwing damage on everything.

[half nova]

Lose 1 shadow to do that don't you

[buoyant roost]

pfff.

[serene crane]

Yea but you dont really need it, already got Tabis and +1 from doppel chest

[serene crane]

You gonna do that LM build? 😄

[solar gyro]

Do you guys spec into this node and shadow elegance or should I put those 2 points into Dismantle?

[buoyant roost]

Man I'm thinking now.

Clothing Needle with weaver set?

but same problem like with the ww sowrd 😄 getting good slams

[serene crane]

It still only work on the affixes tho 😄

[buoyant roost]

yes, but... T7 attack speed + some minor base would be great

[serene crane]

The Orb 2H sword might be quite cool tho

[buoyant roost]

the sword has OP stats tbh

[buoyant roost]

ah the other one. y

[serene crane]

No idea how it counts with the weaver set tho, still some sick numbers 😄

[buoyant roost]

so lets say T7 physical T7 attack speed

triples + 50% of tripled 😄

[serene crane]

got this one 😄

[buoyant roost]

hmm thats pretty good

I would defintely try

where do I get those needles. only from that tomb thingy right

[serene crane]

Damn, not the worst one

I think one of the guys in Lostwood Folly drops it too? 🤔 there is a staff guy, scissors sword guy... and spear one?

[buoyant roost]

ah could be

[buoyant roost]

if this was meele phsyical worth it

[lapis pumice]

Nah this is the generic one

[serene crane]

yea at least its still flat dmg

[lapis pumice]

Folly dudes drop scizors, needle & staff

Oh

Ok i read now

[serene crane]

Yea we meant the needle guy :p

[lapis pumice]

Never mind me yea 😂

[serene crane]

just mixing stuff here to confuse others 😄

[buoyant roost]

you know that flurry

with those "waves" is actually a good skil for bosses

adrenaline gives A LOT of more

too bad just no way to use shadows 🙁

[tawny spoke]

is this useable?

[dusty olive]

you can certainly equip it

[serene crane]

Its alright, would be surely better with higher cooldown reduction tho

[serene crane]

Man, I got two of the minion dmg affixes too... BUT...!! You can go falconer, get the weaver amulet, Entwined ring, abandonded weaver set ring and ezpz big Falcon damage... surely...

[tough thunder]

hey could someone explain how shadowrend bladedancer is crit capped? cause the planner says 24 crit chance, and its not counting traitor's tongue which is another like 40 so 64, idk wehere hes getting the rest from

[buoyant roost]

I wanted to try out the Event HOrizon tbh, but cant get LP1

now going for clotho XD

or the other one for that matter

[serene crane]

Im for Orb Fang 100% 😄

[buoyant roost]

whichever I can get first

[serene crane]

Critical Vulnerability, 10 stacks, each stack adds 2% to get a crit... its plenty of crit tbh

[tough thunder]

yeah i was just reading that, and so 20% crit vuln chance + 60% crit chance u think is enough?

[serene crane]

Yea, you super spam Rend anyway, there is just so many hits all the time anyway

[tough thunder]

ok bet thanks as always my friend

[buoyant roost]

ill use this for now XD

[iron crane]

What idols did you use?

[upper talon]

i have a question, what was changed that ppl stop playing explosive trap detonate arrow build?

[tawny spoke]

is it better than the base jormuns

[serene crane]

Not really... also this is Zerrick 😄

[tawny spoke]

oh shit yea

lol

[serene crane]

Best would be like t7 hybrid life or cooldown in suffix with opened prefix slot, so you just put t1 Jormun there, seal it, then whatever you want there 😄 flat throw damage / mana regen / %dmg

[ebon jungle]

nice armor

[signal heart]

Any recommendations for high armour on a rogue?

[serene crane]

Dominance of the Tundra, double armour blessing and Perfection stacks

[serene crane]

also I forgot, you can get "cleanse ailment on potion use" its mostly just for Uber, but its definitely nice thing to have

[daring blade]

@serene crane this is the sword I was mentioning earlier

I guess it's actually T6 attack speed, but still, it's very, very good

[ripe valve]

A lot of the mana cost reductions built into the relevant trees were nerfed in 1.3 alongside the release of Heartseeker.

[serene crane]

Looks really nice 😄 its super nice for Rend when you self throw Umbral Blades

[ripe valve]

It’s just very difficult to sustain mana compared to Heartseeker now.

[tawny spoke]

do i wanna put cdr or movespeed on tabis?

[daring blade]

Alright, so I just crafted these. I wanted to make it a doppelganger set item, but I didn't want to risk the removal. What would you suggest as a good chest piece to slam it into for shadow rend throwing damage?

I have a 2LP wall of nothing and a 3LP Elicoe's

[tawny spoke]

is there something i specifically want from this ring? or is this good enough

[daring blade]

Can't hurt to reroll closer to 5/5

They're easy enough to come by for rerolls. Even a 0LP just needs to be cycled through an egg.

Or if you're lazy, just corrupt a 0LP

[tawny spoke]

u can only buy it right?

[daring blade]

They can also drop, but mostly yes

I think if you ran a ton of rampant coast maps you might be able to farm it more

[serene crane]

I think if you pick "drop a random unique" or something like that during your evolutions, it has a chance to drop one of the primordial uniques

[shrewd dome]

Pure damage and whatever resists I was lacking in. This is my character https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/qyietstorm/character/qyietblade

So mostly crit multi and increase physical/throw dmg

[tawny spoke]

is this useable for crafting

[serene crane]

You would have to Havoc that t6 to ideally swapping t6 SD pen with Ward, then get lucky sealing the t3 shadow daggers pen and put the Doppel shard in prefix

Could work, but a bit tricky 😄

since to Havoc rune you have to have all 4 affixes filled, so t1 of health or resists, then Havoc and If the shadow daggers pen get t1, then its easy to seal

[tawny spoke]

guys i need to get rid of altars but i have no idea what im looking for lmao

[daring blade]

You know, with this much physical resistance I'm tempted to go for an off-the-wall void/cold build using Bane of Winter

[serene crane]

Mostly high prefix/suffix bonus and extra omen idols

[tawny spoke]

whats considred high

like over 20%?

[daring blade]

I set up my filters to look for high prefixes (T5+) and generally large numbers of total affix tiers

[serene crane]

highest t7 is 50%, so I'd go for like 30%+

[tawny spoke]

ok so can i sell anything that doesnt offer prefix/suffix onus

like this

[serene crane]

Throw it on the ground where it came from

[tawny spoke]

LMAO

[daring blade]

Would have liked a higher prefix roll, but this is what I'm using

[tawny spoke]

i need stricter idol/altar filtering

[daring blade]

A strict item filter in general will save you a lot of time

[serene crane]

I just hide everything, then do a new rule to Show what you actually want

I kinda dont care about others, but adding the corrupted idol limit to it is nice too

but Im also smooth brain af when it comes to loot filters so it can surely be done better

[ebon jungle]

Im playing dragonsong using heartseeker which also triggers burning dagger. watching this dude with much less mana he sustains it hardcore but i cant sustain it i keep moving at the speed i do. whats that all about_

[serene crane]

Some mana nodes / mana regen?

[ebon jungle]

surely a nihilis alone cant cover up the mana regen_

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkL4YL0B

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 3: Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (62) / Falconer (11)

General:

▸ Health: 3,612, Regen: 30.68/s
▸ Mana: 262.92, Regen: 9.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 123 Dex / 5 Int / 5 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 48% / 75% / 51% / 59% / 52% / 57%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 1,264
▸ Dodge Chance: 41% (1452)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (708)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 33%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 67%

Used skills:

Shift / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Cinder Strike / Heartseeker

This build has a guide:

Heartseeker Bow Mage Marksman Endgame Build Guide... Melt Everything! Great Clear Speed! by Action RPG

[ebon jungle]

none from what i can see

burning daggers even with -5 mana cost legit just eats my mana

[tawny spoke]

is this good

[serene crane]

No idea could be just that mana on Hs recurve node?

[ebon jungle]

i have that too

and it could still eat 200 mana in just a few seconds

[serene crane]

yea looks nice !

[ebon jungle]

I wonder if its accounting the cinder strike 8 mana cost as in it being a bug

[buoyant roost]

suffixes and prefixes is best

[tawny spoke]

wat does the transfer button do on the inventory

[buoyant roost]

transfer runes/gold

[serene crane]

Possibly, it should just be 3 mana with all the nodes there... but theres been few weird bugs with nodes lately 😄

[tawny spoke]

im getting so many of the mirage gloves but i have no idea what a salvageable glove looks like

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane NOW IM MAD

[signal heart]

Wouldn't perfection only function with a single hit (again) as you lose the perfection asap because you want to TAKE damage and not NEGATE it?

[serene crane]

Cursed 💀

[serene crane]

Why do you want to take damage again? 😄

[signal heart]

I want to survive heavy attacks, I just did a Corruption 350 Lostwood Folly and got onetapped by EVERY SINGLE ATTACK the 3 weavers had

I want to find a way to build my character somehow so when my 85% dodge chance fails I do not drop dead asap

which means I need a way to somehow mitigate that 4500 damage I just took down to 1500 while also increasing my life regen to a point where I can take that 1500 damage AND immediatly heal it back

And yes my resistances and crit avoidance is maxed

[serene crane]

Do you have Frailty too?

[signal heart]

Considering people run around shouting "LOOK AT MY BUILD I CAN DO CORRUPTION 1500 EASY" I guess I will also need to expect those enemies to deal 5x more damage at some point that then needs to be reduced to 2000 again

I should be able to apply it repeatedly, yes

Yes Spell Breaker is on Rank 3

wait I will click a build planner that approximates my current setup

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGzb01WY

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (72) / Marksman (5) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,690, Regen: 28.65/s
▸ Mana: 241.99, Regen: 9.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 17%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 36 Dex / 6 Int / 2 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 50% / 50% / 50% / 129% / 102% / 112% / 86%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 941
▸ Dodge Chance: 24% (784)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 15% (441)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 26%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Shift / Dancing Strikes

[signal heart]

Ah you can actually import your current character

forget about the endurance and Ele resistances I am crafting a new amulet right now

Fiddling around with stats

[daring blade]

Does shadow daggers scale with the multipliers on the skill that applied it?

[signal heart]

I think it is its own individual meele attack with simply a very high base damage value

So it should scale with meele damage and phyisical damage

[daring blade]

Right, but a lot of subskills scale with the skill that applied it

But I think it's an ailment, so idk

[signal heart]

It is actually Physical Meele Throwing Dex in its tags

It is an ailment that removes itself once it reaches 4 stacks then triggers this monster of a tagged attakc

As it is always a critical strike it scales a lot with critical multiplier

[daring blade]

Yeah I know. But for instance if you trigger smite from warpath, it uses the damage modifiers from warpath

Reason I ask is because I was thinking about a bladestorm/umbral blades setup that would take the node to cause the storm to grow stronger when hit by blades.

If it is modified by the applying skill, it would then potentially grow very strong.

[signal heart]

I have seen a build that turns all this damage into cold damage and uses umbral blades only to increase the size of blade storms

Conceptually: I hate it xD I tried using Umbral Blades for that effect once and it feels terrible to play because you have no immediate feedback

[serene crane]

Tbh... you just arent suppose to stand and tank the big hits, kill the big things faster, If you take the big hit either intentionally or by accident thats a mistake on you, those mini bosses in Lostwood have always hit hard no matter what, probably the only thing to make that somewhat tankier is get a shield, Cradle of the Erased should still be good or the Majasa shield is quite great, then on top of all of that go Rend with ward on shadow creation on both helmet and body prefix; you can still get hybrid life on boots; Aurora amulet; gloves you can get Ravenous Void even tho they can be a bit rare, especialyl with LP but they can add decent tankiness aswell; Nomad rings could be solid upgrades instead of exalted ones, 2LP should be fairly doable with CoF

[signal heart]

Deeze? what makes them so overly used I see them as alternatives the that very rare red ring everywhere but I look at the stats and think "UUUURGH COLD resistance why cant that be 10% all elements?"

[serene crane]

Going lowlife with Death's Door, double Red Ring and Concentration might be tankier, just a different kind of defenses

[cobalt mantle]

Just for the massive flat health they have, and they are relatively easier to get LP on

[signal heart]

Now I am confused I was asking a few days in this channel about Astral Blood builds and someone immediatly gloated at me how actual non Astral Blood builds are WAY tankier due to life leech and Endurance

[serene crane]

They can roll with high resists so you can get good other stuff on LP

Endurance for sure, but also depends on the skill and what you are trying to facetank

[cobalt mantle]

Recovery is definitely better on life-based builds, so ideally if you run a ward build you should have more EHP than if you ran health

(otherwise, may as well run health)

[signal heart]

I think I got triggered by this post seeing how he just stands in the AoE and ignores it

#🔪┃rogue message

[serene crane]

Yea because with that build with Rend you keep generating so many shadows over and over again that give you life per creating shadow and ward aswell, throw attack speed in it to spam Rend even more and it goes higher

I have half of your EHP, had 1600 life and like 400ish ward from some idols and blessing and during Uber I could sit in the void DoT pools until either his next phase or the void DoT line attack that 99.9% oneshots me just by me touching it by a pixel

all that with only capped void res of course and the dumb amount of ward Rend can generate

[tough thunder]

Would rare gloves with + 1 max shadow and t5 throwing dmg be better than t7 throwing dmg gloves? for shadowrend build

[serene crane]

Yeah

[tough thunder]

bet thanks

[serene crane]

Its another shadow to do damage with and for Cascade to give more mana too

[signal heart]

Can you give me an overview about that rend build then? as in what legendaries are mandatory, what non-shadow-generates-health-and-ward-stats are used, etc?

[serene crane]

• You can get 110 ward on shadow creation on helmet and 165 from body armor prefixes; Rend itself with 2 its nodes can give you 80 ward on the Rend's shadow attack... so ideally you want high attack speed in the passives and skill tree and wherever on gear you can.
• Its 20mana, by standing in Smoke bomb it can cost 6 mana but since you spam it so much you need something to get you mana back, so Shadow Cascade with the nodes at the bottom, one of them gives you 6 mana per active shadow
• with Bladedancer alone you can have 6 shadows, then +1 from Mirage champion affix gloves and +1 from Doppelganger body armor (you craft that so you have both this set affix and the ward on shadow creation), Cascade also does a huge damage while doing aoe clear
• Rend has a node that it consumes all active shadows to trigger Cascade at this costs 5 mana (so you want more maximum shadows for easier mana gain, otherwise you'd need some mana regen like 12-16)
• Rend also has a node that has up to 60% chance to resummon a new shadow based on the distance from you (up to 6m away) and Doppelganger relic has (t7 prefix) with up to 30% chance to resummon a new shadow whenever it gets consumed... so you basically keep eating your shadows, recycling them over and over again which gives you the aoe clear by Cascade (Rend also does some okay damage), to get mana back and tons of ward over and over
• the only unique you more or less need is Entwined ring since most of the builds use a lot of crafted set items; then Tabi boots (they make every use of Rend spawn 2 shadows instead of 1, make the cascade/other skill used by shadows stronger while giving you some health and DoT reduction)... the boots are pretty much only for bosses, you can map with them but its slower

In the end its "life build" with with pretty low life since it can generate so much ward while you're spamming Rend

There are also Umbral Blades... either play them as bombs that sit on the ground and explode (but cant be recalled); whenever your shadow expires/gets consumed it'll spawn Umbral blade; I liked playing with Shift with the node that Umbrals can only be recalled by Shift and that also gives you mana back, so you're bascially full mana 99.9% time... + with recalling them you take a node that has 20% chance to spawn a shadow whenever you recall blade and if the recalled blades hit enemy you get ward... you usually have a lot of blades laying around so it can pop like 2-4k ward, depends

[signal heart]

is it dual wield or 2handed katana from abberoth (i have that one)

[serene crane]

Dual wield, usually with the Jormun set sword

[topaz schooner]

Olv what belt are you using

You need to try jungle queen with experimental cdr. Its hilarious you get like 12 silver shrouds

[serene crane]

With Black Blade of Chaos you can also do a ward build where you pick as many mirages as you can, cascade for the mana gain, chance to spawn a shadow from your lethal mirage's mirages and the same Umbral Blades stuff... you use Shift for guaranteed crit on your next attack, Lethal Mirage that spawns a bunch of shadows, smoke bomb for generating extra shadows too, Shift again that recalls the umbrals which have chance to spawna shadow, Lethal Mirage again that consumes shadows for more damage, it hits and spawns shadows.... and so on... it goes really nice with low cooldowns and ward on shadow creation, on LL you have 24% damage reduction from passive, should've enough points for Marksman concentration too for another 10% DR

[serene crane]

Jormun for the set

[topaz schooner]

The 10 multi?

Ah you're not using entwined nvm

[serene crane]

Im using Entwined 😄 its 4 complete sets for me

[topaz schooner]

Ah yeah same okay I dropped belt for a bit to try this in monos

Its so funny

Its like the old shadow dagger sync setup

But even more damage

With jungle queen you just sync shift potion sync shift potion

[serene crane]

This is also a funny corruption on belt 😄

[odd vapor]

does splash zone make the poison pools any bigger? (flask)

[gloomy finch]

Hi! Did you spec in explosive traps too? newbie here. I saw rend build and my eyes were baptized how amazing it was (especially visually).

[serene crane]

Yea I went with explosive traps and explosive umbrals for Uber... its okay for mapping but that felt faster and better with Shift for recall

[gloomy finch]

ok. also a spec-ed shadow cascade still works even if you dont put it on the hotkeys?

[serene crane]

Yea you dont need to press basically anything else other than Rend and Smoke Bomb

Rend triggers Cascade by consuming shadows and shadows leave behind umbral blades, explo trap you just throw by hitting with Rend

[past sapphire]

how was the 2nd Jormund activated here? I only see the belt

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxvqY3ZZ

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,648, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 189.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 26 Dex / 5 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 81% / 76% / 74% / 64% / 48% / 108% / 31%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 330
▸ Dodge Chance: 36% (1256)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,228)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 48%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 124%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap

This build has a guide:

This Bladedancer Build One-Shots Everything (2500+ Corruption) by Perra Gaming

[wraith nacelle]

The primo ring counts as a piece of every set you have equipped

[shrewd dome]

+18 all stats 😱

[fading burrow]

only 6% void res bonus?

🚮

[dense bay]

How does my build look? Anything missing or could be further improved?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVaPmDWZ

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (71) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 3,363, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 217.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 70%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 27 Dex / 10 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 78% / 78% / 96% / 75% / 85% / 90%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 1,177
▸ Dodge Chance: 35% (1233)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,119)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 22%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Umbral Blades / Shift / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Rend

[ebon jungle]

Like i go and play Rogue

And i keep getting primalist, mage stuff

More than i get rogue stuff

[tough thunder]

shadowrend BD so broken, i went from never beating ubby to farming him

[quartz gust]

Loot filter causing issues?

[quartz gust]

Perfectly balanced

[ebon jungle]

loot filter is based on t6-7 so no

i often press x as well

im talking about drops in the game not filter

[quartz gust]

That does sound very weird then.

[ebon jungle]

More useful drops for mages than rogues

[heady locust]

Same lol. So much primalist and mage stuff

[steady cypress]

hmm

I saw the physical shadow rend version OHKO uberroth

the fire version can't do it?

[marble zealot]

Pretty sure you need doppelganger set helm for uber cheese, so no

[steady cypress]

so we have the physical version that can 1 shot uberroth while being giga farmer

and the weaker fire version that cannot 1 shot uberroth but still S tier?

and both are better than the one triggered by Synchronized Strike right?

[eager mason]

shadow rend is just a generator

umbral blades is the one doing one shotting

[wary cedar]

can you not have both sets at the same time?

[steady cypress]

no since both needs the helm and armor?

2 overlap

[wary cedar]

imagine a solution for this problem

✨

[marble zealot]

It's not a set bonus u need, just the 1 mod on helm

Dusk shroud on shadow whatever

[wary cedar]

you can still have both

[steady cypress]

you can't?

[wary cedar]

just play the ring

[steady cypress]

both needs the helm

[wary cedar]

play the ring

[steady cypress]

like I said, both need the helm

it only work if they need different piece of sets

or are you trolling?

[flint turret]

"Just play two headed character bro"

[wary cedar]

like fr

y all act like its impossible

[steady cypress]

yep you are trolling

and

[ebon jungle]

dragonsong + tornado gloves + burning dagger + all dat movement speed = super fun

[steady cypress]

I expect a nerf to it in next season

it's obvious that the build will be nerfed

fire version seems safe to play

[serene crane]

I think we should be able to wear boots instead or gloves or reversed...

[white knoll]

You can phase uber easly on phys rend + umbral

while having S++ clear

[wary cedar]

let me equip 10 rings, i have 10 fingers

[white knoll]

umbral recall does the most thing lol

S+ tier echo clearing + max 40sec uber

feels fine

[gloomy umbra]

let me equip 21 rings, I'm a guy

[wary cedar]

the rogue model is female

[serene crane]

Drip check

[steady cypress]

I remember it can do 6 sec

[sage canyon]

you literally can oneshot it lol and on budget

on rend/ub

[naive saddle]

And not just on umbral

[sage canyon]

oo which one is the other?

i know DA could do it last patch but with insane amount of gear

other than that idk

[rugged mesa]

Physical gave me like *10 damage compared to fire. And i believe fire doesnt really use umbral its just shadow cascade damage

[white knoll]

Probably yes. But i don’t wanna change everything in build just for Uber

[sage canyon]

its for uber and 20k+ cor, rend alone falls off after that and you need umbral pop for clear

but ye

[white knoll]

Okay lmao

Can u link build ?

That seems ridiculous

[sage canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsKHJC7nvVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpUqsz3LZUc
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/k42yoy0u#1

like u can see even at 10k mobs dont die from rend fast , normal and magic fine but rares stay alive so in things like omens need pops

[sage canyon]

yes phys rules

best damage type in the game

free 40% more dmg just for existing

[serene crane]

Thats bececause... it physically exists

[sage canyon]

well yes but technically cause armor shred

also amulet

xdd

[rugged mesa]

Amulet is busted. Got 1 4lp but no decent exalted to slam on it.

[sage canyon]

F

i mean only prefixes and cor matter

for susffixes its just hp which is irrelivant

tho res is nice

[rugged mesa]

Because its so rare i want double t6/t7 as least 😂

Ideally i want throw dam/phys dam/shred res at least

[sage canyon]

just slam 2-3lp and get good cor imo

[rugged mesa]

But i think crit multiple is nice as well

Qiuck question is there a cap to phys res shred?

Or armour shred

[white knoll]

The amulet is multiplicative ?

[rugged mesa]

Yes

Its "more"

[white knoll]

Oh

[serene crane]

every phys/elemental shred is 10 stacks maximu, armor shred is unlimited but has a ceiling where it just falls off and not worth investing much further

[sage canyon]

you want 100+stacks on phys

for armor, phys caps at 10

[white knoll]

RiP my resistances but if damage will burst I don’t care lol

[serene crane]

Who needs resistances when Uber gets erased from existence by Umbrals

[steady cypress]

But fire still S tier right?

since I intend to play both

I just like the fire visual

and for dmg

physical uses umbral

while fire uses fire cascade right?

[sage canyon]

ye realistically u need phys only for 10k+ cor

[charred pagoda]

Hey misha! Ive been following your planner but am having trouble one shotting uber abby. I think my gear is pretty good but maybe im not timing the recalls right. Do you think i just need to make sure im at 4 flow stack and in the smoke bomb when i recall? Anything else that's important?

[steady cypress]

nah no reason for 10k+ corr

[sage canyon]

and fire is more casual friendly no rotation

[steady cypress]

2000 corruption is enough for me to kill time

[sage canyon]

i updated for easier rotation https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/k42yoy0u#3 now alwys 5 flow for boss and map
for bosses:
1)rend(mega spam)+smke bomb
2) 1st UB
3)2nd UB
4)smoke bomb(right before recall)
5) recall UB (FLOW triggers) and activate the boss

boss comes down
1)rend spam
2)1st UB
3)2nd UB, keep rending after
4) wait 2-3 seconds while rending then shift
5) recall (FLOW triggers)

just dont cast bomb before 2nd recall

1st recall is just to reset cause you want to prebuff wioth smoke bomb

[charred pagoda]

I'll give that a shot thanks

[sage canyon]

shift big dps boost

and on mapping just change 1 node on UB and gg

[copper radish]

dear bladedancers, how do I farm for this "Maximum Shadows" affix? do I need to spam champions

[serene crane]

• Champions with "Mirage" tag
• Champion spawn nodes in Weaver tree to spawn champs in echos a lot more often and in pairs
• "The Mage Bane" node that has a chance to spawn champions from Rune Mage Prisons (can run the woven echo Complex)
• Gauntlet of Strife woven echo can also spawn them
• the last echo in Omen echo chain and Omen's Veil can also spawn them

[half oxide]

Hey guys just swapped from leveling build to shadow cascade, how do I fix mana issues?

[past sapphire]

Hi! I am checking out perra gaming's umba recall build... Do you guys have the aspirational version?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxvqY3ZZ

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,648, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 189.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 26 Dex / 5 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 81% / 76% / 74% / 64% / 48% / 108% / 31%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 330
▸ Dodge Chance: 36% (1256)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,228)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 48%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 124%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap

This build has a guide:

This Bladedancer Build One-Shots Everything (2500+ Corruption) by Perra Gaming

[wary cedar]

UUUUHMMM GUYS?

how does this work?

[dusty olive]

you get +14 all attributes

if you have 7 corrupted items on

7 or more

[wary cedar]

according to the stats it only works when it's in my inventory

dafuq

[dusty olive]

could be a display issue, equip it and try a relog

[wary cedar]

i am me trying

ok now it works

insane roll lmao

[serene crane]

Would be funny on Mountain Core

[dusty olive]

yeah the all stats roll is basically the best roll you can get

[wary cedar]

and i got cold res on the slam

🫃

[wary cedar]

if i take my mourning boots off

[serene crane]

Huuuuge 😄

[scenic lion]

any rogue twink leveling setups ?

[wary cedar]

according to my girlfriend i am a Twink

but idk how that will help you

[serene crane]

Now you have to lvl up with ExoS

[agile solar]

can somevody help me to get to lvl 49?

[wary cedar]

you have my prayers

[agile solar]

whats your username?

[wary cedar]

that's not how it works

[serene crane]

• Dual Humming Bee swords => Traitor's Tongues / Dreamthorn / Shadowstring
• Bleeding Heart amulet (can get corruption with +1 skills), Crab rings, Weaver belt / Vipertail
• Kestrel - can get corruption with +1 skills
• Weaver's gloves, boots, relic

[steady cypress]

hmm

[scenic lion]

thanks boss

[steady cypress]

explosive ballista is alive right?

[solid cedar]

Guys, I saw one comment and want to confirm here, cascade rend build on controller don't work? I saw one guy saying that when he hold the 3 skills he can't change direction

I really wanted to play with that build but I play on controller, want to know before hunting the itens if it's possible or not

Ops sorry, shadow cascade the name lol

[craggy yacht]

Should i prioritize getting ward on shadow creation on my chest piece or wait and try and to make one that also has the increased damage with shadow cascade as well.(shadowrend)

[gentle saffron]

Hey Rogues! Is "Heartseeker" a good build in comparison to the other Rogue builds out there?

[wary cedar]

it's a balanced build

can do all content

but makes you play the game in terms of being not op

[gentle saffron]

Sounds like music to my ears. Alright I'm going Heartseeker!

🫡

[wary cedar]

if you have anyquestions...
i m playing it as well!

[gentle saffron]

Good to know and I don't have any atm but I certainly will keep it in mind 🙂

[solid cedar]

I'm trying to find a new build also because I only play on controller and some builds i tried have problem with controller, or he targets omen when he is vulnerable

I'm doing the ballista one and is working, but I hate playing with glass canon lol

[kind adder]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOwpy5rJ

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (60) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (2)

General:

▸ Health: 2,017, Regen: 19.58/s
▸ Mana: 179.99, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 82%, Regen: 10/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 39 Dex / 9 Int / 11 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 83% / 90% / 87% / 65% / 78% / 68%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 403
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (526)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,035)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Shurikens / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Shift

[kind adder]

Lightning Shurikens has been very good to me

[serene crane]

For start just make sure you stay alive, so I'd go for ward first... you can also get ward on shadow creation on helmet and the two points in Rend are pretty good aswell, there is plenty of damage all around the place

[ebon jungle]

ok how the hell do i go about this

I need heartseeker an dpreferably dex on it lol

I dont even want that base. I dont have a lot of room to work with on the light res since its t3

[serene crane]

Sounds awfuly painful trying to get Heartseeker and dex there ngl... 😄

[ebon jungle]

where there is hope there is cope

[wary cedar]

redemption and pray

or waste all havocs and brick

you chose

[ebon jungle]

😂

[serene crane]

Like... Havoc prefixes to suffixes, then hit double Remova and pray it remvoes the prefixes, put Hs and Dex there, Havoc the tiers back into prefixes... 😄

[ebon jungle]

Honestly

Ima corrupt that

[serene crane]

DAMN RIGHT

[ebon jungle]

Say screw it because its not ideal for the mana

but

lets see. more mana the better

[wary cedar]

Sir, that will cost around 250 FP

[ebon jungle]

my current

[serene crane]

Thats where the Hope glyph copium kicks in

[ebon jungle]

270 mana to 327

its not bad

evidently 3 dex is nothing

shit base so yolo corruption

are you having a laugh

[wary cedar]

gl trying to beat my new chestplate 🫃

[ebon jungle]

you know its a blow in my face when i see the much needed cold res

[wary cedar]

i have 290% lmao

rememba

i have like 50% cold pen

[ebon jungle]

lol meanwhile im doing dragonsong so im fire cant do that

what corruption are you at doing that build

[wary cedar]

i played dragonsong heartseeker in S2

[ebon jungle]

rather show your build

[wary cedar]

just crusing around 555 atm, i see no point in going higher other then more one shots

[ebon jungle]

im at 400 atm just need a bit more hp overall

[wary cedar]

maybe i push as high as i can in a different mono i m not farming just to see how far it can go

[ebon jungle]

i assume youre crit as well

[wary cedar]

that's my hp
phy res kinda whanky as always with mourning boots

my current character if you wanna look
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeYJZnw2

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (71) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,215, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 185.14, Regen: 10.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 137 Dex / 19 Int / 29 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 154% / 290% / 150% / -6% / 97% / 104% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 443
▸ Dodge Chance: 66% (3255)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,096)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 56%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 46%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Puncture / Shurikens / Heartseeker / Decoy

[wary cedar]

i still need to improve my omnis/rings/bow/quiver/gloves/idols

that's a lot lmao

[ebon jungle]

lirakas? lol

[wary cedar]

it's good dmg

[ebon jungle]

i thought i was doing something when hitting health and not even considering cold res :kekw

[wary cedar]

my helmet is crazy tho

[flint bough]

when you cast dancing strikes how long does it last?

[serene crane]

...and I thought it couldnt get even worse

[serene crane]

If you mean the "recently" nodes its 4 seconds

[ebon jungle]

its quite alright

[wary cedar]

4/4 usefull stats with T7 and T6

😭

[ebon jungle]

but you see

that is where i had to make use of the 2 suffixes from what the helmet already has

[wary cedar]

i wont get a 4LP troka

so i m not trying for it

also the helmet base stat gives even more cold res

[ebon jungle]

while i was doing all unique proph quivers

i got 3 3lp in a row and then the 4th was 4lp

i said oke

[wary cedar]

you said what? 😱

[ebon jungle]

yeah its not hard getting high lp items

at least i dont think so

i realised as well im in a bit of a pickel lol

im using weaver amulet

without it i go down to the 80, 90's crit

[wary cedar]

that's my crit with full buffs

[ebon jungle]

i need to try without

if i dont need the crit from the weaver

i can use my omnis

[wary cedar]

i havent seen an omnis in days

[ebon jungle]

lol

bahhhh i hate that its not 100

[wary cedar]

do you have points in the heartseeker crit chance ?

[ebon jungle]

nöp

I was thinking of it but i want 100 across everything :kekw

im almost positive its more deeps

[wary cedar]

what 's ya helmet

just play peak

[flint bough]

how do i use dancing strikes?

[ebon jungle]

uhhh

[wary cedar]

assign it to your hotbar via left click, and then use the respective key

[ebon jungle]

easy

SO EASY

THIS GAME

[wary cedar]

i becam nihilis hater, i dont like that i lose hp

[flint bough]

do i hold it?

[ebon jungle]

same ill use it when i get +4 swipe for my primalist again

ill like that build much more

[wary cedar]

that's behond my knowledge

[flint bough]

🙂

[serene crane]

You can either hold it or just click-click it... easiest would be trying something like this yourself 😄 everytime it hits it changes into another version of the skill, like 4 different animations before it starts again

[flint bough]

what about using it when you get to an enemy or is that too slow?

as long as i do it once every 4 seconds right?

[serene crane]

its melee skill to hit enemies with, either you or the enemy will have to come to the other one then you just start using the skill

Its fast enough, why would it be slow

[past sapphire]

how did you guys get the +1 max shadow affix here?

[flint bough]

im just wondering though im using this skill for damage right outside of my main damage sync strike + shadow cascade

[jaunty condor]

Champion affix. Drops like that

[serene crane]

You need to find the gloves with +1 first from Mirage champion enemies, then you craft it with the set affix shard

[past sapphire]

get a glove with +1 then shatter right?

[jaunty condor]

nop

you have to craft on the glove with the sealed affix

champions drop em

[past sapphire]

ohh yeah right

thank you!

[jaunty condor]

So you need to get kinda lucky to have a t7 on them if you want a t7 throwing dmg

[serene crane]

• Champions with "Mirage" tag
• Champion spawn nodes in Weaver tree to spawn champs in echos a lot more often and in pairs
• "The Mage Bane" node that has a chance to spawn champions from Rune Mage Prisons (can run the woven echo Complex)
• Gauntlet of Strife woven echo can also spawn them
• the last echo in Omen echo chain and Omen's Veil can also spawn them
  once you got the gloves, you get set gloves of whatever set you want to bet there and:
• either corrupt the gloves, it has a high chance of turning into exalted set item which you can shatter to get set affix shards; or you go to The Great Bridge woven echo where you can shatter basic set items into shards
• then depending on what gloves with what affixes you got, you put the set affix there
• best case you drop them with t7 of what affix you want, but If not, you'll have to shuffle stuff around by adding the affix and then Havoc rune so your wanted affix gets t7

[past sapphire]

what should i do next? help plsss

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/portogwapo/character/Saabie

[past sapphire]

oh great write up! saving this on my notes now

[wary cedar]

give me your money

[past sapphire]

I can cruise at 580 corruption right now but sucks at uberroth. probably because of the deficit in melee aspd?

[ebon jungle]

LAST EPOCH IS NOTHING IN FRONT OF ME

[jaunty condor]

why do you have 3 doppelganger pieces?

[serene crane]

No no, you need to drop one that already has maxed out resists without corruption, then corrupt it into +1 skills... 50:50 chance, either drop it or not

[past sapphire]

tbh i am not sure 😄 i just followed perra gaming's guide 😄

[jaunty condor]

well you are following it wrong

but yeah

[past sapphire]

so 3 pcs of doppelganger is bad... ok gonna change it then

[jaunty condor]

not only that

helmet and Relic doppelganger set bonus needs to be t7

or it might just be better to use the actual set piece

[past sapphire]

ahhh yeah he used the actual head piece!

10% vs 100% grant lmao. my brain is fried

[serene crane]

t5 doppel on helmet is fine unless you're doing this Umbral playstyle, but yeah, for this 100% t7 doppel 😄

[ebon jungle]

@wary cedar ima assume you dont have mana issues right

[jaunty condor]

Yeah t7 is mostly for the oneshot uberoth setups or atleast 1 shot per phase setups

[serene crane]

you can also try to get Atropos with t7 attack speed, you're using the Weaver set which makes the affixes on Weaver weapons 50% stronger... the attack speed gets cracked af

[jaunty condor]

Yeah, that the Doppel+bear+Jormun+Weaver setup

[buoyant roost]

gimmeee some good build ideaaa before I quit the season 🙁

[past sapphire]

ah this one!

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/k42yoy0u#1

[jaunty condor]

yeah thats a better setup

atleast for uber

[serene crane]

How did you manage to run out of ideas? 😄

[wary cedar]

cold heartseeker doesnt have that

[buoyant roost]

just thinking bladedancer limited xD marksman/falconer naaah

[ebon jungle]

yep im thinking of converting to that instead

[wary cedar]

try to make cold acid flask direct cast viable

[wary cedar]

how is your current setup looking?

[serene crane]

I ws thinking about trying the build to maximize Bladestorm size, but then I kinda went back to farming with Bleed Rend... 😄

[ebon jungle]

it just eats mana because of burning dagger

[buoyant roost]

ignite DS progress?

[ebon jungle]

i cant spam right click as hard

[buoyant roost]

wasn't there a good build last season hmm

[wary cedar]

maybe don't skill into burning daggers then? xd

[wary cedar]

but ya, you need like 6 uniques to get where i am

[serene crane]

Its pretty squishy and I feel pretty lazy to fix that 😄 damage is pretty cool tho

[ebon jungle]

its clear you dont understand the importance of burning dagger

[wary cedar]

you did not even tried to get shuri corrupt affix, to pair that with li'raks so all your throwing % goes into burning dagger and shuricens

[ebon jungle]

ha?

what the flying fuk are you talking about

[wary cedar]

this

[ebon jungle]

Why would i corrupt if i dont have a backup

on items that are my whole build?

[wary cedar]

why dont you have backup already?

dragonsong is common bow with good high lp chances

just slam it with T7 Attack Speed or Crit Multi and corrupt

and i never waited for a backup item

the moment you dont even try you already lost

[buoyant roost]

how far did you push it

[ebon jungle]

did you say the same thing to people last season when corrupt didnt exist?

[serene crane]

Only like 270corr with the current gear before it was too rippy 😄 but tbh i didnt bother slamming my gear, so.... t7 ignite pen on Argentus most likely, some defenses on rings/belt/gloves... got 4LP Kelthan relic too but no slam 😄

[ebon jungle]

that they lost because they didnt corrupt when they couldnt?

Youre living up to your name thats a fact

[wary cedar]

how would that work? lol

[wary cedar]

only way you can't corrupt is when you dont have corruption runes lmao

[serene crane]

you could try Rend converted to lightning and cook something with that... Black Blade of Chaos has 2-4% lightning penetration per 5dex; or dual wield Aurelis for some lightning red with electrify DoT?

[ebon jungle]

Hey guys if you do not corrupt which is absolutely not mandatory

YOU HAVE LOST

[buoyant roost]

I was thinking about lightnign conversion actually

[wary cedar]

i was talking about the corruption,
like if you dont corrupt, you already lost the corruption gamble
thought that was clear!

[ebon jungle]

Corrupt yourself and see if you get push speed % so you can shit faster

ONLY THEN CAN YOU WIN

[wary cedar]

why is bro so mad lmao

[ebon jungle]

make sure you have a extra ass as a backup

If you need shuriken corrupt then your build is bad

[serene crane]

to make it look cool, you could go low life with Ribbons of Blood, slap ward on shadow creation there/t7 dex If BBC... the usual stuff

[ebon jungle]

ONLY IF I CORRUPT I CAN WIN

[serene crane]

Thats actually good 😄

[ebon jungle]

misery might be RIGHT!!

[wary cedar]

my bro cleary doesnt understand S4 mechanics

[ebon jungle]

damn gifs dont work here

[manic wave]

i have a question , i play bladestorm build and i have artifice of devastion with 3 lp but i just got a very good rolled shattered worlds with 1 lp is it worth to switch (and if so why) to it as i will loose t5 throwing dmg and a bunch of mana regen

[wary cedar]

does your build can use attack speed? to you get reliant frenzy?

[manic wave]

i'm not sure , i dont think i have frenzy as i play with omnis and not nihilis

[wary cedar]

you can also just slam the shattered world and corrupt it

and see then

[manic wave]

nah i will never corrupt it , it has almost max rolls on everything

[wary cedar]

🥀

[wary cedar]

why tho, you re not even certain you will use the item

might just corrupt it

[manic wave]

i want to play other builds as well during the season

[serene crane]

There is a corruption on relic that gives you perma haste/frenzy with slightly reduces effect... getting the Frenzy one on Shattered Words would be amazing

[wary cedar]

nah, lets not use the new op mechanic they introduced this season

🥚

[ebon jungle]

you can pick what corruption you want on your item? one person here suggests its just that easy

[serene crane]

You cant, but its just that easy, you just slap it and get it

[ebon jungle]

being extremely sarcastic for a reason here

[wary cedar]

oh glad you re just bein sarcastic. thought you tried to be cringe

[buoyant roost]

fak this poison shit man

sorry not meant to reply on that XD

im thinking about poison acid flas

[ebon jungle]

youre too slow to comprehend things

you tell others to corrupt their only items while you dont even use ucenui's sphere correctly 😂

[serene crane]

You pretty much go to the same things as with bleed but with extra steps 😄

[serene crane]

Did you mean... CORRUPTED Ucenui's sphere?

[buoyant roost]

marksman 😄

[ebon jungle]

If you take a look at his build he sits on 19 int 29 att

thats 1 water orb per 3 seconds instead of 3

and hes fully cold

while hes telling to just go get corruptions 😂

i just dont know game bro

[wary cedar]

missing out on that 40% cold dmg increas dammit!

it's not like i am on 1846% cold dmg increase already
40% more would really push my build to another level

you re right!

[ebon jungle]

40%x8

3 water orbs gives 120% cold damage every 3 seconds

youll cast 12 water orbs in 4 seconds and youll have a 100% maintain on that

[wary cedar]

even tho, still doesnt matter

[ebon jungle]

It does matter if youre to give an opinion 😂

[wary cedar]

thats just wrong

[ebon jungle]

mixed it up its 60% kek

point still stands

[serene crane]

I guess you could always try Poison Heartseeker that converts armor shred into poison chance... 😄

[wary cedar]

its 160% i m missing, shame on me i doesnt min max my build around that

[ebon jungle]

Corruption is not the answer if you dont have everything you need in a build

Yeah its a shame your opinion is invalid when you consider nothing else but corruption

while dying because you dont know how to focus on survivability

[wary cedar]

😂

[buoyant roost]

Im thinking baout the weaver affix chance to throw acid flask on bow hit. I wonder whether the cooldown (1 second) is shared between different idols

[solid cedar]

Anyone here is playing with one of the shadow cascade builds on controller?

[dusk garnet]

should i roll a bladedancer? or is the primordial neccesarry in another slot ?

[serene crane]

99% time you want the Primordial unique ring for sets

[dusk garnet]

ok thx 🙂

[pearl forge]

how rare the strenght + dmg on wep or some other thiungs

i have done like 20 corrupts and best i got was bleed and more dmg on bleed xd

whole market of decent BBC is dry now

people pls farm them

[pearl forge]

if you manage to get a +2 shadows and at least t6 dex it is big money

i paid 11m for thne ones i have

even with 1 dead mod kinda

sadly chasing twice killed almost all fp and i creationed them to get 2 and try for corrupt

[buoyant roost]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXzjOaeg 🤔

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Marksman (55)

General:

▸ Health: 1,416, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 110.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 21/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 46 Dex / 15 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 8% / 8% / 8% / 38% / 8% / 63% / 43%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 325
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (516)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (587)

Used skills:

Acid Flask / Hail of Arrows / Heartseeker

[serene crane]

Can go with Elecoe body for +2 to throw, movement speed, all res, %dot... easy pick

[buoyant roost]

ye, and omnis +2

but I think there's shit of poison going on XD

one thing thouhg. mana issues. I guess the trigger from bow attack will consume flask mana cost

[daring blade]

So I have 2x 3LP blast knives. I was looking at the tree, and it appears that detonating arrow can get a staggering 112x (ie, 11200%) more multiplier for a pair of shots, which is... nuts. Anybody tried it as a boss killer?

It could only do this every 10 seconds, minus whatever cooldown reduction you have

[buoyant roost]

11200% wtf? which node

[daring blade]

It's all of the multipliers together, including the 1.8 more from the base rogue tree

Oh I forgot to multiply by 1.4 for another one

so....

156.8

[buoyant roost]

I think the detonating bow low life build was a thing

season 1?

[ebon jungle]

so many but everything useless!

[daring blade]

Actually I mathed wrong:

• 2x from Suckerpunch (2 points)
• 1.4x from Beastslayer base (4 points)
• 1+(0.6*1.6*1.5) = 2.44x from Beastslayer arming time (3 more points to max arming time)
• 3x from infused discharge (6 more points)
• 1.5x from Well crafted (5 more points)
• 1.5x from Thundersteel (1 more point)
• 1.75x from Concentration (5 more points)
• 2x from Pintpoint (3 more points)
• 1.8x from Coated Blades passive (0 points)

That's a whopping 290x damage, i.e., 29000%

It wouldn't quite be that large because the full charge requires 2 seconds, and the max arming time is 1.44 seconds

But you could charge the first arrow the full 2 seconds and then the second to detonate

[daring blade]

Also since you're using a dagger and converting it to a melee attack, you could use Jormun's for another 1.2x mult

[serene crane]

I say test it out and make Marksman great again

[daring blade]

It'll be my third rogue this season lmao

[buoyant roost]

im on my 5th 😄

youre way behind

I dont even have one Stealth boots. Hmm

[serene crane]

why Stealth btw ?

[buoyant roost]

evade and crystal wind go good together

and I get some more skill points in smoke bomb which is always good ;D

and I guess dodge rating is good as well

[serene crane]

You're getting stacks every second tho, thats good enough 😄 other than the dodge, maybe Stymied for more %dot 😄

[buoyant roost]

ye I can check that one as well

I found 1 stealh out of like 10 prophecies 🙁

0 LP

[serene crane]

Im looking for either better Salts or good 2LP and havent seen any yet... 😄

[tough thunder]

guys i can farm uber abby now and idk what to do 🙁

[serene crane]

Farm him faster, new build... 😄

[tough thunder]

yeha i think im gonna try to get my warlock to the point of farming him

but shadow rend so funnnn

[buoyant roost]

dasljhdkjsahd

Prayge slam.

NOPE

[serene crane]

Then corrupt, HUGE

[buoyant roost]

corrupted. had 2 times to slam

both failed. corruption. t

[serene crane]

I'll just make the most overpowered low lvl character ever

[buoyant roost]

nope XD you need T7 throwing

do Icycle apply poison? XD

on hit

[serene crane]

I'd guess so 🤔

[buoyant roost]

so i guess not too bad. but if I got that shred swould be huge Ö)

[ebon jungle]

i dont know s4 mechanic bro

[kind adder]

Anyone got an Umbral Blades planner I can compare to? Want to swap soon but I've never built UB so not sure where to start

[ebon jungle]

Whats the actual best tree for shurikens with bow on crit

this made most sense to me

Also if you convert it o chakram it no longer can be cast right?

[daring blade]

That looks about right to me. Being bow would make it a lot harder to use blade shield.

[kind adder]

You probably want the speed/range node if you're looking for ranged

[ebon jungle]

i dont see anything worth giving up for that tbh

even though i agree with you

[ebon jungle]

lol 1 point literally changed how good it became..

[kind adder]

You need more points too, 23 not a lot to make shuri good

[tawny spoke]

any advice on where to go from here?

[kind adder]

The opposite of where you went lol

You really want the imprint nodes

You should always rush those, even though they're nerfed. Once you have all those I like to grab the echo imprint nodes to put whatever woven echo I wanna run in there. Then I go for loot lizards and dungeon loot, then exalted stuff. Depending on your primordial you may also wanna max out that node for the crystallized hearts from rift beasts.

[daring blade]

Gonna try some detonating arrow

Weirdly I actually had a mirrored 3LP into which I had slammed the same dagger (which I also mirrored). Corrupt lost all the affixes though.

[tawny spoke]

i have nothing to put there sadly

[manic tangle]

Anyone facing random character freeze issue with Shadow Cascade Bladedancer ??

[tawny spoke]

no

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost alright, I got some ideas...

corrupted it into max stats, ezpzp

[tawny spoke]

was this 3 lp

[serene crane]

Yeah

[tawny spoke]

yo can u give me some advice on what to work on next

im not sure what i should prioritize

[serene crane]

Well, what do you have so far

[tawny spoke]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/unento/character/sleep1

i obviously need omni

but that just has to drop from shade

but im wondering if i should slam attackspeed on my weapons since they are lp1

or if thats a waste and i should just try to get high lp first

or if i should work on my chest/belt/gloves

[serene crane]

Just slam the attack speed there, ideally t7, it does a lot

Definitely craft the body armor with ward on shadow creation, ez tankiness

[tawny spoke]

i need a t7 shadow gen chest though

right?

is that one of those champion affixes like the +1 shadow glove thing

also got this not bad i think

[serene crane]

If you get t6 thats fine for now ofc

[tawny spoke]

i also need +1 shadows right?

[serene crane]

Yea even something basic is fine

[wraith nacelle]

do we know the odds to get the max roll corrupted on an item ?

[tawny spoke]

i meant for the chest it needs +ward generation on shadow and +1 shadow too right

[wraith nacelle]

im 0 for 10 on ones that lived through corruption

[serene crane]

10%
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/corrupt

[serene crane]

Put hybrid life there, max out attack speed

[tawny spoke]

bruh

i think i have a few t7 max life in my stash

i was shattering all my exalteds until i realized i need to keep some to slam on my gear

[serene crane]

Just add this to your loot filter and whenever you dorp some crap item with hybrid life, use Removal rune on it

[wraith nacelle]

so 10% chance when you get a positive outcome for it be max rolled or max rolled with implicit included . Thanks for the link

[tawny spoke]

can u get the +ward gen t7 from stuff like this?

[serene crane]

tbh Im not sure If it changes both every time, but it surely can

[tawny spoke]

damn this is nice but the base sucks

[serene crane]

Its a random drop from like anywhere... I usually go for runes/uncommon runes

or If you need the primordial material

[wraith nacelle]

According to the chart its 5% for just the main rolls and 5% for all the main rolls and the implicit . Either one would be okay with me . Theoretically Im getting close to the odds Iv had 10 positive out come omnis so far

[tawny spoke]

i can remove this safely right

you cant slam exalted into other exalteds right

[serene crane]

You can only slam exalted with 4 affixes (non-sealed) to unique

[maiden gyro]

Nope

Only stuff with lp, and if it's not 4 affix and you have a 1lp item you just put x random affix on it to rip your t7 off it.

I did it a lot.

[tawny spoke]

is it worth removal on this for the chance it hitts on leech

[serene crane]

Tbh you can do Removal rune on it, 50% chanceit removes one of the prefixes, then you put Jormun shard to the emptied prefix slot, Despair glyph seal it (t1 is fine), then put either %fire damage / mana regen / "ward and ailment cleansing on potion use" there... best would be cooldown reduction in suffix, but its fine

[tawny spoke]

or just hit hybrid and then max melee speed

[tawny spoke]

i bricked it for the gloves its ok i have other belts just not with hybrid health

[serene crane]

I keep bricking things all the time, its just how things go 😄

[tawny spoke]

no its good lol

[serene crane]

Yeeeee

[tawny spoke]

which one?

[serene crane]

Depends what idols you gonna use for your build... I think fire cascade Rend wants %inc damage of shadow skills, stuff like that? 🤔

[tawny spoke]

its all that in the planner

[maiden gyro]

Envious lol.

[tawny spoke]

i dont have that

its from a planner

[serene crane]

Without doing the math because cba, I'd say the first one then... you can fit 4 of them and boost 2; the second one fits 5 but only boosts one because of the shape...

[tawny spoke]

hopw do u even farm idols like that

[serene crane]

tbh I wouldnt count much with getting that corrupted idol, you just need to get lucky and drop them from Omens or spam Omen's Veil => Fractured Prison woven echoes like crazy 😄

[past sapphire]

@jaunty condor @serene crane I managed to kill uberroth! Thank you for that! I just changed the headgear to the actual doppelganger piece when I got the mirage on glove 🙂

Question though, i am not used to maxroll but is there a way to see the corrupted affixes on this? or the auther did not put it at all?

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/k42yoy0u#3

[tawny spoke]

u dont want the idols to take up more than 1 refracted slot right??

[serene crane]

None of the gear is corrupted

[serene crane]

The bonus only applies once

[past sapphire]

thanks! im gonna look for the BISs then

also got lucky with this O_O not sure if it's okay tho. my first 4lp this league

[serene crane]

Damn, thats insane lucky

[past sapphire]

is this rend recall build not new? i mean has this always been OP?

[serene crane]

I think Falconer has something like this aswell

[tawny spoke]

@serene crane yo what the heck should i put in my imprint slots lol

[serene crane]

Rend is new and its pretty much the one huge thing that can generate you this amount of shadows while Rend+Doppel set resummoning them while also giving you Dusk Shrouds to boost that Umbral damage up

[serene crane]

You can imprint Tabi boots in "sealed riches" and "echoing riches"

[tawny spoke]

idk if u saw this lol #🔪┃rogue message but im gonna respec and get the imprint slots

[serene crane]

Yea you can drop the Champion nodes for now since you got the gloves, also still only 30/53 points 😄

[tawny spoke]

should i nem this?

[serene crane]

It wont work, it only drops from the Rift Beasts

[tawny spoke]

im not happy with the gloves i want t7 melee speed lol

oh damn really

[past sapphire]

really. i think i got my LP1 from nem

[tawny spoke]

wait it went in the slot

are u saying the item will drop just like i put it in?

[past sapphire]

it will work.

[serene crane]

Did you put the ring in the egg? 😄

[past sapphire]

now im having my doubts too haha

it was so spontaneous

[tawny spoke]

i just put in the egg

lets see

[past sapphire]

i am pretty sure i got my 1LP from nem

hmmmm

[serene crane]

There is also a solid chance Im wrong about these but you for sure cant imprint boss uniques, like Omnis, etc

[past sapphire]

oh well let's see since he put it in. it was midnight when I got it so my brain was so fried 😄

how do u guys farm havoc?

[tawny spoke]

wat are lost caches?

yay my first one

the rolls look bad

[serene crane]

Apparently this still works, but I didnt read it or do it, Im too lazy for that 😄 rune rewards on echo completion in weaver tree, lock away all rewards expect runes and exp (since exp = favour for CoF/MG), chance for double echo rewards... and also in Rift Beasts you can get the "uncommon runes" evolution which is pretty solid way to get them too
https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1k4d36a/i_believe_ive_found_a_method_of_farming_havoc_and/

[wraith nacelle]

We hit number 11, I just had to question the odds and the game handed it over

[tawny spoke]

so i just unlocked 300 corruptiojn what do i do now lol

[past sapphire]

i saw his TLDR

"TL;DR Run the generic rune reward prophecies inside tomb/cemeteries and you can force havoc runes or redemption runes to spawn on completion."

Holy cow nice!

[tawny spoke]

@serene crane wat prophecies do u think i should focus on

farming

[serene crane]

Either idols If you dont have them, body armor to hopefully get t7 ward on shadow, unique boots/scepter/dagger for better ones with LP

[maiden gyro]

Oh discord broke.

[tawny spoke]

speaking of unique scepters just got this lmao

[serene crane]

Hah nice, its just that easy!

[tawny spoke]

where u go slam again

its a dungeon?

temp?

[serene crane]

Yea

Just make sure the exalted scepter has all affixes useful for you 😄

[tawny spoke]

that scepter only cares about the more fire damage affix right

[tawny spoke]

wat?

doesnt it just take the t7 one

[serene crane]

You can guarantee the t7, but its 3LP, so it takes 2 other affixes with it...

[tawny spoke]

hmm ok so maybe i should save my lp3 for when i have like a multi t7 sceptre

[kind adder]

Yea you should probably respec the tree. Doesn't cost too much. The imprints are really important and valuable.

[tawny spoke]

welp the egg did not infact lp my ring...

[serene crane]

t7 and just t5's is fine... getting multiple t6/t7 of what you need is pretty lucky

[tawny spoke]

wat would i respec besides the gold stuff

[pearl forge]

btw seems this season the power jump is crazy

im already beating my s2 damage with 1lp items and mid corrus

[tawny spoke]

is this bricked lmao

[pearl forge]

think he just bough it and procced no lp

then egged it

so it was a + +

[serene crane]

What are you playing? 😄

[pearl forge]

lm again already hitting for 1.1 mil each hit

updated the guide for 300 corru and aberroth but i have been playint this weekend and yea

im super lost on the new idol setups i have some ideas but for now i have full defensive

but i think i can sneak 1 or 2 omen or crit multi+shred effect ones

[regal kite]

Crafting/ filtering tips I've learned for the peeps doing the Shadow Rend build, this applies to both the relic, belt and ring craft as well. For filtering these pieces, you want to filter by 3 stat lines with only one prefix that's already exalted. These crafts are extremely FP hungry. Just putting on the set item prefix and sealing it can lose you good chunk of FP 70% of the time. The relic craft is somewhat more forgiving of course because you're not sealing the set item prefix. You're trying to havoc the exalted prefix onto the set prefix to get the most base crit chance for shadows, and chance for shadows to duplicate on use.

[tawny spoke]

is it worth corrupting spare dopple chest pieces just to see what u get

[serene crane]

Yea, you can either get lucky or just shatter it for the set affixes... unless it bricks

[tawny spoke]

u wanna hit the ward gaine on the chest right

[serene crane]

Yeah pretty much

If you'd be playing the physical version, its kinda funny corrupting Last Bear set gloves... you can get extra lucky and get +1 shadow 😄

[tawny spoke]

whats the best way to path to echoing riches?

[daring blade]

Huh, I might have figured out some tech to take advantage of "on bow hit" nodes while using the detonating arrow dagger - the lightning tendrils node maintains its "bow" tag

[serene crane]

I like this, I dont go to the left at all with arena nodes since I blocked arenas in echo complety... but people said arenas got good now

[daring blade]

I'm still too low level to try it, and I'm not respeccing my other chars

[marsh sentinel]

I like arenas now, they're a lot faster and give decent xp

[serene crane]

Too bad you cant add the shuriken corruption to that, would be funny

[daring blade]

lol yeah

[tawny spoke]

this in my lp3 firestarter?

[serene crane]

You can only slam the same item type... dagger on dagger, scepter on scepter

[tawny spoke]

damn right

that would have been perfect omg

[wet bear]

i hear something about dismantling and crafting set items how exactly does that work?

[tawny spoke]

shatter them into shards

[wet bear]

how exactly

[tawny spoke]

theres like a certain echo u have to do i forgot sorry

[wet bear]

oh oki

[maiden gyro]

Need to put a 4th affix on it anyways and then chance getting the 4th

[past sapphire]

how to farm the weaver one-handed sword?

[serene crane]

Atropos?

[past sapphire]

yeah i mean, how to spawn him? just use cemetery of reweaving?

[serene crane]

Lostwood Folly is the easiest, buy them from the vendor and imprint one in the weaver tree... there are 3 mini bosses roaming around and one always drops one

[maiden gyro]

I have the sword is it good for something?

[serene crane]

Physical Rend-Cascade-Umbral to delete Uber

#🔪┃rogue message

[tawny spoke]

is it possible for a prophecy like this to hit the exalt on a mirage champ?

[past sapphire]

oh it's an aura. should i spawn a woven echo beside it? for more efficiency?

[serene crane]

Nope, at least Im like 99.99% sure

[tawny spoke]

so u just have to hope for a natural exalted drop lol

[serene crane]

You can, but what I do is that I just make a road of them and it'll spawn random echoes next to it

[serene crane]

Yea pretty much 😄 but you can look for any "Mirage" thats exalted with t7 of anything and just craft it... ideally with empty prefix slot to put attack speed/throw there and then Havoc whatever crap affix is the t7 into attack speed/throw

[tawny spoke]

so u can havoc into a crafted affix?

[serene crane]

Yea Havoc just swaps tiers of the non-sealed affixes around, the item just needs to have 4 non-sealed affixes on it

[tawny spoke]

bro i have this stupid diamond matron prophecy

for so l0ong

where do i find these things

[serene crane]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/bestiary
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/npc/DiamondNagasa

[maiden gyro]

I dun even get how this works.

[past sapphire]

yay this looks good!

[tawny spoke]

wat are u suppose to slam into tabis first

cdr or move speed

[serene crane]

I'd go for cdr, its just nice to have on either shift or traversal smoke

[daring blade]

So my detonating arrow experiment is going well

I took a quarter off Lagon's lifebar in a single attack, and since then I've unlocked another 50% modifier

[daring blade]

Interesting find: cinder strike's combo each counts as a separate move for flow, so you can cinder + detonate repeatedly to get that modifier

[vapid needle]

doing ballista build, having hard time in empowered, lvl 80 so far, dying often, should I go back in normal?

or is there an easier build for rogue? I read about shadow rend being good, shall I try that instead?

[daring blade]

This the zhp build? Those have a lower skill floor than other builds, so if you're not used to blasting everything without taking a hit, it'll be a bad time

Shadow rend is very strong

[vapid needle]

yeah it's zhp build

[daring blade]

Get ward on shadow creation and you'll be immortal to everything but ubby

[vapid needle]

ok sound good, I'll look for it and meanwhile look up the guide

I just noticed that there's few set items are there, that's ok for now until I craft something in the bridge?

then in reforge in cementary and tombs

?

[daring blade]

Sometimes the guides use the actual set pieces because of specific mods that are only on the real thing

[vapid needle]

ok gotcha

I think I have mats for it in thre, I salvaged a bunches of them

[past sapphire]

this node wont affect Scissor of Atropos since it is a boss drop right?

[serene crane]

Yea it wont work

[white knoll]

finally did that lmao

[serene crane]

Bro turning Uberroth into a gif is peak

[white knoll]

this is like most broken build i've played across s0-s4

[ebon jungle]

You know i didnt expect this dragonsong build to actually have somewhat decent dps even tho im a bit behind still

I just forgot he slams pretty often phase 1 sadge

[wary cedar]

maybe corrupt your items

[ebon jungle]

are you jealous

i do this without even corrupting

[wary cedar]

yes i am. is this a problem?

[ebon jungle]

i knew you would be

if i can get armor shred instead of health kill

then its gonna be pretty good

shurikens is better dps but

i only get 40-60 armor shred stacks instead of 400-600

[buoyant roost]

that's over investment

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor

Check the Shred tab

100 should be rough limit

there's sever diminishing returns

[ebon jungle]

this only proves that cold heartseeker is better overall at this point

Also a key point behind my idea of having so much shred or at least be able to

is to keep up the dps as dragonsong

[half nova]

Don't you use cold heart seeker with dragonsong anyway unless you reach the point where you are too squishy to have enemies on screen

[ebon jungle]

no?

its the other bow

[half nova]

Then swap to icicle bow once you start getting 1 shot

[ebon jungle]

i can get one shot anytime

but i dont get one shot anytime because DOOOOODGE

I should have 3k+ hp at this point but i dont since the game sitn willing to cooperate

Dragonsongs problem is fire pen. It has great damage but suffers from not having pen outside the gloves

Reign gets automatically cold pen with overcap

[half nova]

And by that I mean you are still scaling flat cold damage via morning frost

But not converting heartseekers base damage to cold

To keep the fire tag

[ebon jungle]

you dont need a cold tag to get the damage on your attacks lol

if you hade added whatever damage you get whatever damage added

and then you scale it off general damage

inc damage*

[half nova]

I mean the cold tag barely matters in terms of dps

Until you start getting 1 shot at least last time I played HS (mainly because icicles offscreen and song doesn't)

[ebon jungle]

im doing 500 corruption fine

if i play stupid i win stupid prizes

[sage flax]

hmm

[past sapphire]

Did you guys cap your umbral crit chance to 100%? my crit chance is 53.28% but with level 4 honed edge, the umbral blades get 76.96%. do i need to change my weaver enchantments on idols to crit chances?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ3Zlm2X

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 93

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (17) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,511, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 201.97, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 6/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 20 Dex / 7 Int / 7 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 58% / 143% / 21% / 68% / 94% / 46% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 302
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (949)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,391)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 49%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 46%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap

[white knoll]

how much damage i need to have to 1tap uber in group

XD

[wary cedar]

3 cold res
lets go

[ebon jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZhSMvvLfwU abberoth only