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topaz schooner
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ah

flint turret
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can be in monos too, depending on how many rares spawns

topaz schooner
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surely i can hit t7 attack speed t5 flat on one of these right

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after missing 5

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lol

serene crane
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Also corruption for 10-20% increased effect of Frenzy is not bad

flint turret
flint turret
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goes well with null

serene crane
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True πŸ˜„

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btw If you convert Cascade into fire with Kuzon helmet, I guess Shadow Flourish will give you increased fire damage instead? πŸ€”

topaz schooner
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theres a few builds on youtube and tools but theyre kinda meh

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theres a few on ladder too but they all use decoy for pushing 4kc+

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i'd like to try the fire version before i put even more time into this entwined phys version tho

buoyant roost
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@serene crane
You beat me by 1% πŸ™

serene crane
flint turret
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throw is better, mine is just super low budget

topaz schooner
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whats the throw version exactly

flint turret
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fire convertewd to throw with all flat throw affixes and reforged items

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with scepter weapon(or not necceserily)

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throw has x2 to x3 aoe thats the main reason

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it doesnt have to be fire too, doppel helm is super sick, i just like the novety of fire convert

serene crane
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free Blind is also pretty nice

flint turret
serene crane
flint turret
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there is nothing to take in rend really if its a cascade trigger

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20 is enough to get both blind and frailty

serene crane
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I kinda wish Loose Pockets in Rend to throw shurikens/umbrals wasnt locked behind traversal node, would be cool to make some lightning Rend+lighting Shuriken build

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and some conversion from bleed/poison to Electrify Aurelis/Weaver's Gift, could be funny

topaz schooner
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what do i slam on this

flint turret
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Something like health-eleres-manareg maybe

serene crane
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Void damage and wait for expansion where rogue gets void conversion

buoyant roost
topaz schooner
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wtf is with these crazy stutters when opening the inventory

serene crane
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Damn thats even worse than opening stash after hours of playing the game... whenever weird sh!t happens, I just restart the game

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@buoyant roost have you done any progress with the fire DS btw, or just pushing the throw Bladestorm? πŸ˜„

buoyant roost
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for now just bladestorm build. I plan on going back. Im trying to get that axe tbh.

buoyant roost
serene crane
buoyant roost
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but realistically I think I could go even without the jormund set. sure 20% more, and +1 skill, but maybe I can think about a weaver as well

topaz schooner
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its kinda silly how many runes you get from this when you have a good line built up

buoyant roost
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given the 50% boost from the set

serene crane
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Getting a good rolled Weaver sword super sucks... πŸ˜„

topaz schooner
buoyant roost
serene crane
topaz schooner
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for the parry to block build

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er block to parry

serene crane
topaz schooner
serene crane
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it kinda needs to hit every single good roll to be better than crafted Jormun... few times Ive dropped one wiith like 16WW, twice 20WW... mostly its like 11... πŸ’€

buoyant roost
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you get T7 attack speed, T7 chance to bleed/ignite, T5 fire/physical pen

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50% boosted by weaver set

serene crane
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Ideally yea πŸ˜› But you know what it rolls way too much? Flat damage

buoyant roost
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ofc. and the spider mace rolls chance to shock

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shocking

lyric smelt
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fire cascade cool but my pc cant handle it

serene crane
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Is your GPU... on fire? omegalul

lyric smelt
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its cpu

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its old

topaz schooner
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bro i have a crazy pc and the game goes down to 40 fps when i have umbral blades lmao

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it aint your system

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game is just optimized by interns

buoyant roost
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Losless scaling boys πŸ˜„

half oxide
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Thanks ill keep this in mind since I dont know where to get anything of this

serene crane
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  • Weaver (doubled with Abandoned set):
    132% crit multi; 39% attack speed; 78% bleed chance; 18% phys pen (+33% dot pen thats 66% crit multi) - 117% bleed pen with max rolled 50% Salt the Wound gloves
  • Crafted Jormun Katana (with having 3/3 set):
    138% crit multi; 26% attack speed; 52% bleed chance; 12% bleed pen....40% crit multi from the bleed stacks and 10% crit multi from the 3/3 bonus - 106% bleed pen
    ....
    Its about infinitely easier to craft Jormun sword than being so lucky with Weaver's Gift... also thats 22 WW πŸ’€ and unless you use crafted Jormun axe, you would also lose bonuses from Entwined ring.
    You could also try swap Whetstone Gavel to have the Katana with 90-100% increased stats, you'd just have to ditch the ring so less skill points...
    also no Wengari/Dragonbone axe so thats 36-100% less bleed chance => 180% less bleed chance from Weapons of Choice; I guess 2LP Gavel is doable and with lucky slam, some crit multi/attack speed/bleed chance might balance it out; also +1 to physical skills
flint turret
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i think it shouldnt be that hard to get 1lp gavel and slam it with this, even at t1 its already great

buoyant roost
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@serene crane whats the max shadows you can have at one point of time

serene crane
buoyant roost
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oh weaver set is not double

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its 50%

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so if its 100% its 150%

serene crane
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Sounds about right πŸ€“

serene crane
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for a moment I thought Weapons of Choice with mace/sword give crit multi thats for mace/dagger... here it would only be a stun chance, sooo 8 points for something else

lyric smelt
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drops nerf pretty hard this season ye?

topaz schooner
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finally

topaz schooner
lyric smelt
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lightless always drops something

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unique

serene crane
lyric smelt
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scissor as well, they dropped as many as shards

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theyve all become rare this ss

topaz schooner
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t7 melee attack speed on gloves is only 30% right?

serene crane
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Yea

topaz schooner
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yeah t6 is 23%

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i cannot be asked to try and craft better gloves for 7%

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why is it so weak isnt it usually 50% stronger than t6 and double t5?

lyric smelt
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what version r u playing

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throwing rend or ele one?

topaz schooner
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phys set stacking

serene crane
topaz schooner
serene crane
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ah okay, yea :c If you dont plan on using weaver points in anything else, you can still run the champ nodes

lyric smelt
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how to farm that champion affix?

topaz schooner
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by far the best is rune prison

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ive tried all the other champ farming strats

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rune prison wins

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and its disgusting favor per hour

serene crane
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oh the one that spawns champ with prison mage? πŸ˜„

topaz schooner
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yeeee

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but they buffed mages so it always spawns 2

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and they can have champs

lyric smelt
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can I see ur weaver tree?

topaz schooner
# lyric smelt can I see ur weaver tree?

this is my current tree. Basically you get all the champ nodes, all the mage nodes, then you imprint rune prison, reset your echo until you find rune prison, then just kill everything inside, leave and don't touch the center, re-enter, keep farming

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even if you leave and re-enter it'll spawn champs

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just at maybe half the effectiveness

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but its like 9k favor a run

wet bear
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i forgot how to make gold when you have no gold

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do i just hope i get lucky and drop a big item xd

serene crane
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do you feel like this drops the rare runes often btw?

wet bear
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completly scammed

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do you always get a new item when you corrupt a set or canit also increase / decrease stats / add affix

topaz schooner
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feels like a scam tbh and makes them way rippier

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90% of my runes come from rift beasts

serene crane
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alright good to know πŸ˜„

topaz schooner
serene crane
topaz schooner
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i will say tho, this method of farming prisons is pretty good gold

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passive anyways

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also a metric fk ton of exalteds

wet bear
wet bear
lyric smelt
topaz schooner
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just adjust according to your corruption

lyric smelt
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mg is pretty dead

wet bear
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why is mg dead tho

topaz schooner
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because this game isn't balanced around MG

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you're done in 3-4 days

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if you have access to MG

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so people just get bored and move on

buoyant roost
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64)

General:

β–Έ Health: 1,665, Regen: 20/s
β–Έ Mana: 124.51, Regen: 9.6/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 12 Str / 24 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 12 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 23% / 23% / 23% / 38% / 23% / 35% / 40%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 333
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 24% (799)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 7% (155)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:
wet bear
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welp most myi tems rae mg, cant go back

topaz schooner
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surely one of these hits t7 cdr t6 ms right?

serene crane
hallow fiber
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Do you believe that's worth using despite the very low roll for crits ? :/ Not sure....

topaz schooner
buoyant roost
hallow fiber
topaz schooner
topaz schooner
wet bear
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unreal

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i hate this game

topaz schooner
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good ol 5%

hallow fiber
wet bear
# wet bear unreal

is there a way for farming this outside of praying for having rifts and buying it from the vendor

topaz schooner
hallow fiber
topaz schooner
wet bear
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i didnt play since s2

topaz schooner
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what corruption you at

wet bear
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100

buoyant roost
topaz schooner
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ok grab these

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grab this

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too

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imprint this

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then as you're playing and pushing corruption you'll get tons of rift beasts

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you wont have rampant until 300c but

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once you get to 300 you'll start to see it

wet bear
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woah

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well when i look at mg prices it looks really dead ngl

topaz schooner
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imo the best way of farming beasts is by spamming omen's veil and spending excess glass on rift chains

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and having rampant coast imprinted while you run them

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thats how i get all my havoc runes

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make sure you grab "rare rune" as the number one prio when you're growing your beast

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that makes every single beast afterwards have a chance of dropping havoc and creation runes

wet bear
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woah

serene crane
hallow fiber
topaz schooner
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i havent done heartseeker yet, i plan on it this season

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i was gonna do it in season 2 but never got around to it

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i was paladin trapped

wet bear
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where do i get the things in the bottom left

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didnt see those yet

topaz schooner
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and then finally you can convert to get them

wet bear
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ahh

topaz schooner
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the main resource struggle with rift beast is hearts > horns > bones

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if you farm all 3 you'll be golden

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imo the prio for evolutions is
rare rune > rune > horns > bones

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if you dont need havocs its a good idea to pick horns first

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the rare rune evolution is very rare, 1 in 13 evolutions will have rare rune

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but its basically guaranteed 10-12 havoc runes and 1-2 creation runes if you get it early on

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its stupid good

coral kelp
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guys what nodes on cinder strike can make burning daggers stronger? i have lots of points in cinder strike that feels wasted

serene crane
# buoyant roost youre runing my dream πŸ™

the lowlife build can hit hard with BBC, you pretty much just use smoke bomb to generate shadows, Shift for guaranteed crit with increased damag into big LM hit, super low Shift cooldown to gain a lot of mana back, with BBC you have super low cooldown on LM aswell so you just rotate these skills, LM generating you shadows aswell... Hachadino was playing it aswell and got Uber with it I think
one of the tries on normal Aberroth in 1.2 and its dumb slow... should be decently faster now with all the buffs around
https://youtu.be/GSTovaU15nc
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKg8KdKv

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (33) / Bladedancer (80)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,450, Regen: 27.2/s
β–Έ Mana: 196.51, Regen: 12.48/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 117%, Regen: 26/s
β–Έ Attributes: 36 Str / 69 Dex / 36 Int / 36 Att / 44 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 36% / 36% / 36% / 51% / 36% / 122% / 90%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 490
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 6% (186)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 20% (726)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 70%

serene crane
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oh I forgot Umbrals for the mana aswell with Shift recall; also the bleed nodes in recall in Umbrals => Sundering Blows in LM for even more damage

topaz schooner
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Ahhhh t7 melee attack speed makes this feel so much better

serene crane
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Yea its not just damage but ward too πŸ˜„

topaz schooner
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yeah i gained 2-3k ward from it

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i still can't sit in one place without tabi tho

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if i use army of skin i'll die

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way less ward per second

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and the dot reduction from tabi is crazy good

serene crane
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Very balanced item indeed

topaz schooner
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πŸ”₯

serene crane
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Damn thats insane one POG

topaz schooner
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whole lot of additive damage

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and like 4% attack speed on top? I'll take it

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would rather have ward on shadow + damage per casca

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one day

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maybe

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dont even have one yet

serene crane
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I wonder how much ward you could get with like full attack speed and idols with also ward on shadow suffixes

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like 40% atk speed Wing Guards with t7 30% atk speed and just try on a dummy

topaz schooner
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the decay starts to kick in very fast so i'm guessing top end is 17-18k

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i can get to 16k but it drops to 10k nearly instantly

coral kelp
serene crane
topaz schooner
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wtf you can get 5% all res on these omen idols??

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what the f

coral kelp
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oil coating works with i only using the shadow daggers? did'nt know, thanks

serene crane
coral kelp
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i'm speccing cinder strikers only for the daggers, i'm using the kuzon set to proc them

topaz schooner
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no joke corrupted this thing 20 times

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ok thats kinda cool

serene crane
serene crane
topaz schooner
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yeah i just ruined 3 in a row

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welp i guess thats a good way to burn corruptions

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just used 120 lmao

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down to 118

pearl forge
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man i love the idea of those rings

serene crane
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Yea but ngl, I think EHG missed big time with adding some kind of Omen faction that would let you somehow manipulate with the loot from Omens and like a node where you have higher chance to find gear with higher tier affixes per equipped corrupted item, but there would also be a chance to get ambushed by Harbringer

pearl forge
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think expansion might add more things to omen/weave/primals

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they have a big problem with productivity hope it gets better

serene crane
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I hope so, all the 3 leagues could get some really cool stuff other than just "hey, here is a vendor, buy stuff, there is enemy, kill and get currency"; weaver tree is great

topaz schooner
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yeah omen farming is painful

edgy jacinth
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so many different versions of shadow rend..

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idk what is best

topaz schooner
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prob fire

edgy jacinth
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not phys?

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is there also like low life vs non-low life version?

topaz schooner
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i'm playing phys but fire is prob stronger

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you dont need to do low life you just get ward on shadow

edgy jacinth
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the top guy at 10k corr doesn't seem to use fire ver

topaz schooner
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yeah but thats irrelevant

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take away decoy totem and they wont be able to do 2kc

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lol

edgy jacinth
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what's a decoy totem?

topaz schooner
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decoy skill, totem, same thing

next gale
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its one of the base rogue skill

edgy jacinth
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sorry i just made this class 10 hours ago, played 3 hours and went to sleep

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LOL

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i just got to endgame

topaz schooner
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in your case just play phys

edgy jacinth
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i see versions that are like you cast smoke and only cast srend in there - which seems way too slow for my playstyle.

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then there's a version where you just shadow rend thru the whole map (without the boots thing to make you stand still) and it kills everything

topaz schooner
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thats the best mono clearer

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but terrible for omen windows

edgy jacinth
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this guy only has shift / srend on his skill bar

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does srend cast other random skills you specialized in?

topaz schooner
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the entire build revolves around casting shadow rend which procs all your cascades

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olv have you hit a max roll nihilis yet

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i want one

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so bad

serene crane
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Rend triggers Shadow Cascade, spawn shadows to trigger another cascades, shadows leave behind umbral blade, you shift to recall umbrals to get mana back and nuke mobs and have chance to spawn another shadows

edgy jacinth
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o thanks Olvrin

serene crane
topaz schooner
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i dont think anything is gonna beat max roll nihil for my version of the build

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i tried exulis and its meeeh

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the problem is that you lose so much from conversion and you have to build around it, and brutality specifically isn't even that much damage

main cape
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does the shadowrend build that converts to fire do any ignite? Is pen with ignite damage any value on idols?

serene crane
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I guess Exulis to get the bonus from Guile for some dex=>cooldown reductions, idk

topaz schooner
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maybe but i'm prob gonna use queen for my endgame build

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with experimental CDR

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i use sync shift to clear, i dont really use shadow rend in monos

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with this much damage it oneshots everything

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brutality cuts my armor in half :(

serene crane
serene crane
river lily
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How is heartseeker this patch?

serene crane
river lily
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i saw some guy kill uber pretty easily with heartseeker so was thinking might roll to that

serene crane
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I guess I saw the same guy with 1000corr clear and uber kill

river lily
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yeah a 5 minute uber kill with pretty much only 1lp gear is not bad tbh

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benefits of range i guess

topaz schooner
river lily
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which would help quite a bit in single target dps but 5 minute isn't bad i think being ranged helps the most lol

serene crane
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Yea you pretty muc have like a constant stream of icicles between you and the boss πŸ˜„

river lily
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yeah thats from the corrupt i think thats what helped the most for heartseeker this patch

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because of the recurves count as hits i think so you're at like 47% icicle

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but having to need that corrupt is so zzzzz

serene crane
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Yea Im trying to slam some 1LP bows and then corrupt them for the shurriken corruption and so far no luck

river lily
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yeah you def want that 19% extra icicle chance that makes the single target and clear way way better because in s3 punctures weren't proccing like how he shows it in his video at 1k corruption

buoyant roost
native summit
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Hi guys, how do you craft something like this

Or do you just farm doppelganger and corrupt

river lily
wary cedar
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it's basically the same

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besides getting shuri/icecile corruption affix

river lily
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yeah the icicle corrupt looks sick but getting it must be annoying lol

wary cedar
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since they use the shuri skill tree

native summit
serene crane
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hear me out... ignite armor shred Rend omegalul

buoyant roost
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What's the point doing Omens on higher corruption. Their loot is completely random it seems. I get worse shit the higher i go XD

wary cedar
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endgame omens are not worth the time

serene crane
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With higher corruption they should just make them drop more currency and chance to get the omen echoes

wary cedar
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they should shift the droprate from idols and the random corrupted gear

buoyant roost
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i need to farm them because of prophecies. I will just do like 200 corruption or even 100, make chains and thats it

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althuogh that would reduce the loot I get. unless theyre idols πŸ˜„

ebon jungle
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nothing special but for my dragonsong using entwined i like how it turned out

wary cedar
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i dont understand

ebon jungle
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you never will

buoyant roost
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@ebon jungle no mana issues?

wary cedar
ebon jungle
wary cedar
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new loading screen, pog

buoyant roost
ebon jungle
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I dont have a uh nihilis thats +2

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So im just making up for it with weaver amulet as well

serene crane
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I wonder who came with the great calculations that a single first craft removes more FP than left on the item (18)

buoyant roost
ebon jungle
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last i checked its a bow

buoyant roost
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ah it's a fire melee skill. my bad

wary cedar
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did one redemption and one affix to T4

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already out of FP

ebon jungle
ebon jungle
# wary cedar

burned 7 quivers before i finally got what i wanted

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burned about 30 +4 reave ones trying to go low life with exsang including just going life version

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i am shit out of luck with getitng them

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i like it tho kek

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its perfect πŸ₯²

wary cedar
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i always get random ass corruption on these

ebon jungle
buoyant roost
wary cedar
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but the corruption is worthless

pearl forge
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unless it was a natty corrupt

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then gz

ebon jungle
wary cedar
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i swaer, the corrupted affixes on gloves are most random bs ever

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what is this

shrewd dome
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Has anyone killed Uber Abby with shuriken bladedancer? Wanted to ask if it's possible to kill him in the last phase before he really does any mechanics

ebon jungle
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this hurts 😭

wary cedar
ebon jungle
wary cedar
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why does it hurt you?

ebon jungle
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max stats except throwing damage

serene crane
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There is a spike right in the middle of the helmet, can you imagine how dangerous that can be when you're putting the helmet on?

wary cedar
ebon jungle
ebon jungle
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What exactly is recurve for heartseeker? chance to return back to you?

wary cedar
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but with delay

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like you shot arrow, arrow then has a chance to turn back and hit enemy again

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you usually get ti to a high enough % to get 3 hits save, and then it hits the 66% cap

serene crane
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literally first corrupt try

ebon jungle
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amazing

serene crane
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And its t1... πŸ˜„

wary cedar
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i m already lowkey hyped for the build i m doing next season omegalul

wary cedar
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havent even finished my first character

buoyant roost
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how do you finish a game with no end πŸ˜„

serene crane
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Didnt get past the character creation

wary cedar
ebon jungle
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ultimate chad

wary cedar
coral kelp
wary cedar
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@serene crane

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if i have

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the affix shards from the Doppelgaenger Set

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on what items can i put these?

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only helmet, body, relic?

serene crane
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Helmet for dusk shroud on shadow consume, body for +1 shadow and shadow skill dmg, relic for shadow crit and shadow respawn cahnce

wary cedar
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so i cant put them on belt or something

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needs to be the correct part

serene crane
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Yeah

wary cedar
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shuri in line

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or chakram

buoyant roost
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for sure shuri in line πŸ˜„

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I have that build

wary cedar
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oki

buoyant roost
shrewd dome
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Is ricochet good for single target bosses? Because of the pierce to crit multi conversion?

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On the shuriken skill tree

wary cedar
buoyant roost
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I have 1 in ricochet

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because 2 is mana hog

shrewd dome
buoyant roost
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its more reliable clear in a way and more boss dmg

signal heart
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If I wanted to build more of a damage mitigation / depends on life and endurance build from my low life ancestral blood ward build where would I start looking? As Endurance Threshold seems to be only available on belts now, should I focus on getting a T7 threshold belt before anything else or is there something else I should watch out for. I did some "low investment" build calculator stuff and that barely scratches 2750 HP, so I somehow doubt getting 60% endurance with 20% HP threshold really helps me survive the 15k damage hits that manage to kill me now

shrewd dome
buoyant roost
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I think endurance only plays a role with special items in low level

buoyant roost
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i'm not sure there is one that applies to ward though? i know mana seed of ed..something

signal heart
buoyant roost
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if youre generating ward, endurance plays no role

signal heart
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (69) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (5)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,658, Regen: 31/s
β–Έ Mana: 179.51, Regen: 9.6/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 2 Str / 64 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 45% / 45% / 85% / 36% / 21% / 61% / 23%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 735
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 29% (996)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,536)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 99%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 70%

buoyant roost
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wait b ut this is not low life build

signal heart
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That is NOT my build that is just clicking around in the planner picking stuff that felt like they make sense

buoyant roost
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oh so youre plannin to make a build?

signal heart
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I plan to MOVE from Blood ward (~4000 Ward at 2500 HP) towards a build that can sustain standing still in big attacks and just leech back to full by simply survivng

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aka. I want to finally start watching netflix on my 2nd monitor again while holding down the right mouse button

buoyant roost
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sure. just do it at 100 corruption πŸ˜„

signal heart
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I plan to be playing at 300 or 500 corruption minimum xD

buoyant roost
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for that kind of a build you probably need something OP like ward frmo shadow

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you need to generate like 5000-6000 ward

signal heart
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yesterday I had a conversation that resolved around "Astral Blood isn't actually very good at making you survivable" and then I started looking into "well where the HECK do you get the defensive layers from to survive something like an uber abberoth slam"

shrewd dome
# wary cedar

It's a serious question lol if I'm using blade storm shurikens, isn't it better that the shurikens are piercing the target when its spinning around in a circle?

wary cedar
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one shuriken will not hit one enemy twice with piercing

buoyant roost
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yes but 1 shuriken can only hit once

shrewd dome
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For some reason I thought the pierce would mean it can hit the same target multiple times

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So without blade storms alloy animation, even if we throw out 3 blade storms at once, only one will hit a singular target?

wary cedar
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uwu

buoyant roost
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yes.

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alloy is better for single target

shrewd dome
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Okay

half nova
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assuming you are doing damage with bladestorm* not the shurikens

signal heart
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Like with 75% resist and a glancing blow you can reduce damage taken to 0.1625 but that still manages to let some attacks through for ~10k - with 60% endurance and 20% threshold you can effectively increase your EHP by 1.5 but with 3000 HP you get about 4.5k EHP with that and that still doesn't feel like enough to survive a 10k direct slam hit - Armor of course could increase it but "Lets be honest we are talking post-game stats here so lets try to reach the softcap" which is what ... 13k armor for 80% DR - that seems kinda hard to reach as a rogue

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With Shift I can reach 85% dodge rate for a short duration but that doesnt help me 15% of the time at all

buoyant roost
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sorry wrong reply πŸ™‚ meant for @signal heart

signal heart
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I saw a video of a guy standing inside it and just regenerating their 2500 HP repeatedly every 0.1 seconds, that sounded like a feasable way to "handle" the mechanic

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I mean I CAN play the game right now dodging around and avoiding big AoE markers but to me the EPITOME of every ARPG is reaching a state where you just ignore even that

shrewd dome
buoyant roost
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yeah, but not every build can do it. probably just some rare stuff that you can get.

shrewd dome
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Shuriken and cascade I believe

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,364, Regen: 27.2/s
β–Έ Mana: 159.54, Regen: 14.16/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 25 Str / 51 Dex / 25 Int / 25 Att / 25 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 62% / 62% / 62% / 72% / 77% / 82% / 87%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 473
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 42% (1496)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,508)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 103%

signal heart
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I tried that too but it doesnt work out that well, remove cascade and focus on shurikens triggered by bladestorm, dance or manually casted

shrewd dome
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I'm pretty close to this gear wise and I get to the final phase but I'm trying to kill him in the final phase before he casts too much crap cause I can't see a damn thing on the ground lol

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Just trying to figure out why he takes certain skill pree passives vs others

signal heart
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I can tell you as much as that Dancing Strikes main value comes from Rythm, netting you 80% MORE (that is after all other effects) damage and 200% Critical Multiplier

shrewd dome
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Yeah

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DS basically buffs shuriken and cascade

signal heart
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With the ability to cast shurikens while attacking it makes for quite a neat support ability but its own damage should be miniscule as you focus on Throwing Physical damage and not Meele damage

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I personally felt like using the cascade didnt contribute as much

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so I went with Shift instead of cascade and specced out of all the cascade support on all skills to make room for more

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works rather well

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no idea how well it is compared to general specs but after I did some readjustments I went from ~20 - 40k hits to 160k hits

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(from shurikens)

shrewd dome
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Cascade is auto casted with DS

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I just throw out BS every few seconds and spam DS

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And smoke bomb for movement/dodging

tawny spoke
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@serene crane yo check the new planner

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i wasnt sure which skills points to assign since u have way more than me

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so i guessed what seemed important

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it feels weird idk

serene crane
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@flint turret after too many rips its done, took close to 4mins tho, I keep screwing up balls and too many times just dies at 20%, once at 2% πŸ’€

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Got his two balls tho

serene crane
# tawny spoke https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/unento/character/sleep1

Looks alright, just in Smoke Bomb take full smoke blades, in Rend instead of Precision get Energy Flow and full Hidden Blades instead of two next two if you're short on points and some good source of bleed stacks so you get the crit multi bonus from Jormun - Hooked Blades are probably not enough for 200 stacks I'd guess

half nova
serene crane
# flint turret Nice!

It would definitely be a bit faster with a bit better gear, I guess guess its alright for what it is... 1600hp doesnt look exactly great but I barely bothered with suffixes on my gear tbh omegalul

flint turret
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1600 is rippy for sure

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Can't really stay in pools or beams and tank a hit

serene crane
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Im dodging like 95% of his hits or he doesnt oneshot me through the ward, I was tanking pools and beams pretty alright, but getting all the frailty stacks sucks with my only cleanse being smoke bomb

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I also had to turn off the mtx for smoke bomb, legit couldnt see sh!t

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@tawny spoke also the Mirage gloves from Mirage Champion enemies, even If you get some rare ones with t5 attack speed and t5 throw damage, thats a good start

tawny spoke
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sorry nvm i got it

serene crane
tawny spoke
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what do i drop for smoke blades though>? impending gloom?

serene crane
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yee

tawny spoke
serene crane
tawny spoke
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btw how do u play this like what does umbral blades do here

serene crane
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Its more damage, another cascade to apply more shadow daggers, another shadow to refund you mana

tawny spoke
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how do u even get +1 shadow

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my smoke bomb cd is also so long and i think i should only use rend inside smoke

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but it makes it so awkward to clear because stuff is so spread out

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i also have no idea hwo to get resists besides idol and i die so fast to most stuff

serene crane
# tawny spoke btw how do u play this like what does umbral blades do here

You spam Rend, you spawn shadows and whenever you consume them they leave Umbral blade on the ground for X seconds, then you Shift and by doing so you "recall" them and they fly towards nearest enemies, applying shadow daggers it just bombs the enemies... then those Umbral blades you recalled have 20% chance to spawn a new shadow, which you can consume again by Rend to trigger shadow cascade, which applies shadow dagger stacks, that shadow spawns another umbral blade and so on

serene crane
tawny spoke
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what consumes ur shadows?

serene crane
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Ideally you get the Entwined unique ring, it gives you all resists, +1 to skills and all atributes per complete set and the ring acts like a set piece of every set, so just with the ring you get 4 complete sets (Doppel is already complete but you still get the bonuses from ring)

serene crane
tawny spoke
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ah right ok

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so i just need more attack speed and that ring

serene crane
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Yea, the ring itself gives 5-12% attack speed so its something... then you can get it on gloves

serene crane
# tawny spoke how do u even get +1 shadow

Rare Champion enemies like this, just the text there would be "Mirage" instead; in loot filter you can find it under Personal affixes and highlight them with big letters and red text or whatever you want πŸ˜„

tawny spoke
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how do i get +1 shadow stuff

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also how do i farm for stuff if i have cof? do i just get a bunch of exalted glove prophecies? is that the best we can do

serene crane
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No it doesnt drop from regular loot, only from the Mirage champions

tawny spoke
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fuuuuu

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i gotta check the weaver tree

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is there anything for this

serene crane
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There are nice points in the weaver tree, but you just need to get more points

tawny spoke
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im just trying to push 300 corrupti0on rn

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hopefuklly i can do that with what i have

serene crane
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also when you open the Faction tab, top right select Weaver one and check if you can teleport to Haven of Silk, there is a vendor that sells bunch of woven echoes which should give you points

tawny spoke
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how come some echos have that weird like blue thing behind it

serene crane
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They are echo chains... basically all have the same reward and the last one is a special one

tawny spoke
serene crane
# tawny spoke is that echo chain weaver trait worth it for me early on

No idea if its worthy early, I like it... it pretty much changes your echo layout into group of straight lines, Nemesis chain that have a guaranteed Nemesis in map and at the end there is Nemesis tower; Rift Beasts with last map being like a straight island with bunch of rift beasts ambushing you so depending on your evolve choice they drop a lot of stuff... omen chain that has a double omen fight at the end with the mirror to pick If you want to buy another chain to be spawned or currency

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you can pick it up, give it some time and see for yourself πŸ˜„

tawny spoke
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i need the egg still

serene crane
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Its more common to get them in a bit higher corruption than 100... 300 you should see them almost every time

serene crane
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Damn this one looks pretty juiced up

buoyant roost
undone spear
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yo someone tell me in this video if he is pressing acid flask and bladestorm

serene crane
undone spear
serene crane
undone spear
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i cant even click acid flask

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while im clicking blade storm

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it doesnt work

buoyant roost
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2x tall and 1x long

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you know its impossible to get lp1 event horizon wtf πŸ™

serene crane
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can use 4 needles or the other one for 2% more damage to bosses

undone spear
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@serene crane did they nerf acid flask like pure acid flask build?

buoyant roost
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oh y. I was drawing it differenly in my head XD

serene crane
buoyant roost
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how much these you have?

serene crane
buoyant roost
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youre not playing seasonal? πŸ˜„

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legacy?

serene crane
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Told you before I play legacy, there is no reason to play season πŸ˜„

buoyant roost
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sorry might have missed that. ye you might be right, but I just like new begginings

serene crane
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I only do that in poe with a friend where its actually the new stuff in seasons

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ah wait, that altar doesnt give 2% more dmg to bosses per unique/leg idol, its another one... well, still

buoyant roost
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its also only suffixes

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ideally suffixes + prefixes

daring blade
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Anybody ever tried net/puncture/explosive trap? Net fires puncture, melee hits trigger explosive trap

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Also it seems like shadows mimic net?

buoyant roost
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no shadows should not throw net

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umbrals, shurikens, cascade and one more

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acid flask

daring blade
daring blade
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Just made this

signal heart
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I have a couple of minutes to ask again: How can a rogue scale DR in a manner that makes you survive even the most ridicoulous situations through life leech?

daring blade
signal heart
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Endurance Threshold seems to no longer exist on anything but belts, does that mean I should prioritise a belt infusion with T7 threshold instead of Hybrid Health?

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Base Threshold and 60% Endurance should mean my EHP is simply 1.5 of what is show if i understand it correctly

topaz schooner
signal heart
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So you use 8 Wilderness Scout and 5 Outlander Tenacity and probably take Grit to make gearing for 60% Endurance even easier?

topaz schooner
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correct

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well

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5 in wilderness prob

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5 in outlanders

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and then max grit

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tbh even ward builds max grit because 5 all res is so good

daring blade
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And Seed gives 8% hp as threshold

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If you could get a 2LP it would probably be BIS for life

topaz schooner
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yeah you can get all your threshold and endurance from implicits or blessings, and tree. you shouldnt need a single t7 slot anywhere for it

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save that slot for health

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(which is both threshold and health)

signal heart
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I have a 1 LP from my first Abberoth kill lying around but only 4% thershold roll

topaz schooner
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eh doesnt matter you can just reroll it

daring blade
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You can farm those pretty easily. It's a common drop.

topaz schooner
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any 0 lp that drops you throw into egg for guaranteed 1 lp

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then you corrupt it for 2 lp rerolls

signal heart
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Explain that in more detail

daring blade
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Though LP2 is 1 in 215, so that is a lot of grinding

signal heart
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btw. can you use a corrupted item in the Temporal Sanctum as fodder?

daring blade
# signal heart Explain that in more detail

Throw a 0LP seed into a nemesis egg. If it gets 2 LP, you win. If it gets 1 LP or some random mods you don't need, you have two options:

  • Corrupt egg failures (bad mods) to make them eligible for rerolling one tier above, ie, you can reroll an LP2 using an item with one legendary and one corrupted affix
  • Cycle LP1s through the Farsight Turtle to reroll their LP
topaz schooner
# signal heart Explain that in more detail

There's an echo called the gauntlet of strife that lets you reroll a unique by using another unique of the same type with the same LP. If you have a 2 LP base then you can obtain 2 LP bases to reroll quite easily now because of the corruption system, since it counts as a 2lp legendary for the rerolling of your main base. You drop the main base, then you throw it in egg (at nemesis) then you simply slam it at sanctum, and corrupt it. That'll give you a high chance of getting 2 LP bases for rerolling your main base. If you want 3 LP you just need 2 LP to start, slam 2 random mods, corrupt the 3rd. 4LP is basically impossible to get bases to reroll for tho

daring blade
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The Farsight Turtle woven map can take your LP1s and reroll their LP. Usually it's a failure, but if so you can just recycle them through nemesis eggs again.

signal heart
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Ah ok I understand, I didnt know that a corrupted affix counts as having a higher LP for the rerolling well thingy (the echo you have to "defend" in two different timelines, right?)

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Or was it another one?

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There was also that one where you can choose a different attribute affix

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But an egg can also cause the item to get a random LP affix doesnt it?

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Are there any experimental affixes that are especially desirable for the purpose of End Thresholding in particular?

daring blade
signal heart
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ah ok

daring blade
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Also you can buy the nemesis tower maps from the weaver merchant

topaz schooner
signal heart
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Ah it cant be so bad, maybe you get a Strength T7 item with good other stats so you can redefine it to Dex and have a good piece, maybe havoc it to get it off the stat and still have something useful? xD

topaz schooner
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trust me :)

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It's called Oerden's Watch

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go do it and let me know if its as bad as I say

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swapping the attribute is amazing

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the echo makes it not even worth running

daring blade
topaz schooner
signal heart
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How is critical vulnerability affecting your crit chance to enemies?

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is that a multiplyer or pre- or post-multiplyer additive?

daring blade
signal heart
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So at 10 stacks I get a +23% final CC so I only need to reach 77% effective CC

cobalt mantle
signal heart
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The ... tooltip says 5% and then 2% additional per stack, so 5 + 9*2 = 5 + 18 = 23

cobalt mantle
signal heart
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d'awe

crimson latch
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sorry for my ignorance, can somebody explain to me the shadow rend with bleed weapon ? how does work the mechanic?

tawny spoke
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Guys how do u get +1 shadow on the Dopple chest

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Do u just have to corrupt it and hope for the best?

tawny lodge
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does anyone know if the volatile flask from cinderstrike can anyhow benefit from acid flasks tree?

serene crane
tough thunder
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anyone know why blood roost is in the aspirtional page but not endgame page for ballista falconer

tranquil narwhal
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Confused about the wording on this umbral blades node. The description says 'per bleed on the target, up to a maximum'. Then says 'maximum damage per bleed: 45%'. Surely that doesn't mean 45% more damage per stack of bleed? I'm assuming it means "maximum damage FROM bleed', so a max of 5 stacks of bleed since 45% / 9% = 5.

sage canyon
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10k cor showcase of mapping rend ub pop

serene crane
sage canyon
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5 bleds and u good ya

tranquil narwhal
sage canyon
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i saw your comment on yt

serene crane
tranquil narwhal
sage canyon
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around 70% uber hp on pop

serene crane
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Umbrals doing some crazy work there Gregory

sage canyon
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pop full screen dead

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kek

tranquil narwhal
serene crane
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Its a bit weird EHG is limit the damage for UB from dusk shroud in skill tree but on the idols its just unlimited

sage canyon
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and with scisors u get way more speed and flat dmg

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katana probably easier tro crtaft

serene crane
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Scisors is just random... buuut at least itsa guaranteed drop and easy to farm, unlike the bloody Weaver's Gift

sage canyon
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yeye

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and with double t7+weaver set bonus

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its giga dps

serene crane
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Its 50% bonus, but yea still big πŸ˜„ Im just checking and you can even get corruption with attack speed, wouldnt get the bonus but still nice

sage canyon
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tho i do need to change explosive traps to shift

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free 50% more dmg

tranquil narwhal
sage canyon
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u prestackl on bosses many blades on the ground

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and UB get a node 6% crit multi for each blade

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so with 100 blades on ground u get 600% crit multi

tranquil narwhal
# sage canyon

Oh wow didn't realise it was that many blades hitting. So crit multi on katana is useless because you already have so much?

sage canyon
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dimishing returns

serene crane
sage canyon
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in map its better

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cause u recall 20-30 blades

tranquil narwhal
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yep gotcha thanks

tough thunder
serene crane
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also his aspir. gloves are corrupted for 120% minion damage, which proooobably wont happen so easily anytime soon

tough thunder
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true

serene crane
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1LP shouldnt be too hard to get to slam t7 dex with and you either get at least max rolled Roost, corruption you want or just not good gloves

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I'll have to try If Shift UB recall feels better on Uber than just traversal smoke with explo traps with the bleed rend πŸ€”

heavy canopy
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Hey guys im playing bladedancer on hc. And want to switch to the endgame build from maxroll. Is there anything you would rly need b4 switching to that 1 where its more about shurikens dmg then the umbral dmg?

hallow fiber
# topaz schooner yeah i'd just use your 290% if you have a 3lp one

Nop I only have 2 LP 285% and 1LP 290% so far. And the 4lp shitty % one..
Played HS last season, was great gameplay but terrible damage.
Now it's better but VERY Imen idol dependent... And that's a real struggle to get good ones :/ very... The only content dropping a bit is the 400 corruption boss.... Not easy to farm as a HS when you're trying to get your idol.
I had O recurve idol so far... My character is 95+ and I had another one level 100. Seems like very unlucky or something is wrong I dunno. I checked my loot filter but no issue here..

dire sable
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I have noticed after I have gotten above to 4.1 Attack Speed on my Bladedancer Shadow Rend that even in Smoke Bomb I can't sustain my mana on longer fights like Ubberoth (Once I have him at around 2nd Harbinger Spawn my mana is out)

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Not really sure what approach other than going back to my prior weapon would be - as I'd rather have 0.4 less Attack Speed and have infinite mana pool lol

serene crane
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Do you have the mana refund with Shadow Cascade?

dire sable
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Yeah - it was no issue at all when I was at below 3.9 Attack Speed - i could sustain mana forever.

But upgraded weapon and got to 4.1 Attack Speed - while I notice more damage, my mana pool gets drained too

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Just tried on Boss Dummy - its the same regardless on Attack Speed :/

Well start to get digging - I can do for about 40-45 seconds while casting Smoke Bomb before my mana is out

serene crane
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You got Tabi and +1 shadow on boots or body too? πŸ€” with just +1 on body without gloves I had to put a bit mana regen on belt and it was fine, maybe link the planner

dire sable
signal heart
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@Kaj I just realised that the Falconer passive skill only increases the Endurance Threshold of a single hit if you havent been hit recently - that kind of defeats the purpose of trying to stack defensive layers does it?

serene crane
# dire sable Yeah u can see the planner here - I'm trying best as possible to upgrade stuff w...

And hows your Shadow uptime? πŸ€” t7 doppel on relic is pretty huge compared to t1; sealed t1 Jormun on belt with mana regen and flat throw is ideal I'd say; I'd also still go with shadow spawning in Smoke Bomb to passively get ward from the body armour, to make sure there is enough shadows for Cascade's minimum shadow requirement and then t7 doppel on relic is 25% more chance to respawn the shadows

signal heart
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There must be different kinds of health leech right? Some of it is over time some is instant on hit?

dire sable
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Its deffo not a bad thing to try get T7 Doppel on Relic - its a really nice advice though :)

serene crane
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I guess you can either try to seal like t2 prefix of mana regen/fire damage (or +1 to Rend for more damage too), slap doppel affix there and Havoc t7 from whatever to Doppel with flat throw damage... shouldnt be too hard with the right item, but FP can get unlucky πŸ˜„

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its also 9-10% for Shadow skills on top of everything

modern harbor
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Ballista falconer - what is best use of T8?

dire sable
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Cheers for the suggestion - hopefully it will be enough for Uberroth now

serene crane
dire sable
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I'm fairly consistent at his burn phase where I die around the 20-25% mark cuz I'm not used to the double huge frontal slams..

But the Relic upgrade is super huge

serene crane
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If you're ingame πŸ˜„

signal heart
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Is there a way to turn dodge rating into armor?

dire sable
serene crane
dire sable
serene crane
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Not bad, I'd expect more πŸ˜„

flint turret
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as much as i liked reen i like jormund more now, reen seems suited for ignite more now

serene crane
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Yea I was thinking about running it on the ignite DS with Ember, but I'd have to dip few things into crit I guess to get the stacks

signal heart
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Are there sets that are worth it to be equipped as is? I have a stash tab full of set items I corrupted out of boredom to get "all affixes are maxed" effect and now I wonder if a full set is useful for something

serene crane
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More like it depends on the item that set, some set item can give you better and more useful stat than some crafted one

flint turret
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did more thinking about shuriken multishot, so far thats where i ended up.... either mountain boots + lots of light inc affixes, or mourningfrost and dex stack. Havent made phys one yet

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (54) / Falconer (14)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,229, Regen: 35.36/s
β–Έ Mana: 162.55, Regen: 15.92/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 25 Str / 50 Dex / 25 Int / 25 Att / 42 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 67% / 67% / 67% / 72% / 57% / 99% / 104%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 895
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 62% (2748)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 22% (882)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 35%

flint turret
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (54) / Falconer (14)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,045, Regen: 35.36/s
β–Έ Mana: 161.68, Regen: 17.44/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 14 Str / 98 Dex / 14 Int / 14 Att / 31 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 75% / 66% / 105% / 57% / 75% / 106% / 111%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 716
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 67% (3259)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 19% (706)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 35%

flint turret
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im not sure it would be possible to sustain without mountain

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may be possbile tho if i swap from smoke to shift and from HS to umbrals

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but even them in not sure

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loosing 0 manacost HS with sapping and mana on recurve hurts too

serene crane
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Does the lightning pen for throw from quiver work on procced shurikens?

flint turret
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i dont think so

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its not a direct cast

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if it does it would be a pleasant surprise

signal heart
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Hmh I now switched stuff around to 3k HP with Endurance and lotsoflifeleech but I don't see myself more survivable than with Astral Blood Ward (1/2.5k HP with 4k Ward)

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A T1 Greater Omen Rift from an Omen Chain is just too much

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Where could I get 5000 armour from

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Or 13k if I want to go really deep

wary cedar
serene crane
wary cedar
flint turret
wary cedar
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you can't even trust the ingame text anymore

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πŸ₯€

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at this point, what even is real

flint turret
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for me it was pretty obvious it wont work but i double checked it anyway

daring blade
flint turret
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because it says attack instead of hit

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trigering something is not realy attacking with it

flint turret
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but i dont know how to scale general throw inc except from idols what im doing already

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its not a big deal tho

serene crane
wary cedar
signal heart
wary cedar
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is this cool?

signal heart
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It is a lot but i personally hate cold, fire or lightning resistances, no idea if there are shuriken bow builds

flint turret
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looks great for shuri trigger bow build with mourningfrost

wary cedar
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lol

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but idk how my crit rate gonna be without peak of mountin

flint turret
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you can get tons from idols

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crit is whatever

wary cedar
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i have 43% for bow
21% for throwing

flint turret
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how?

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its literally impossible if you have double shuri corrupt

signal heart
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This is shit I want to survive by facetanking

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (71) / Falconer (5)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,106, Regen: 23.2/s
β–Έ Mana: 156.58, Regen: 10.16/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 5 Str / 125 Dex / 5 Int / 15 Att / 11 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 152% / 223% / 169% / -5% / 95% / 88% / 96%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 421
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 51% (1972)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 20% (739)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 19%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 46%

wary cedar
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i dont have double shuri

flint turret
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why no flat on bow at least then

jaunty glen
flint turret
wary cedar
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by check in you mean in the planner?

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i just added the buffs, still only 53% for bow
but i have crit chance passive nodes in shuri and heartseeker

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so should still be fine ig

flint turret
jaunty glen
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I love Heartseeker, didn't know something like that was a thing I only know MR builds tbh

flint turret
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its definetly a thing but its overlooked by everyone for no reason

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part of it is probably how unpleasant it is to get both bow and quiver shuri corruptions

jaunty glen
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oh yikes

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ya

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Maybe I'll try going for it after my Javedin

wary cedar
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( i always get icecicle currpt on my quivers )

torpid pewter
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which passives are bugged

flint turret
rugged mesa
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Hello. For those playing Physical Shadow Cascade/Shadow Rend, do you need to manually cast Umbral Blades? I know its generated by shadows but what about the recall? I feel that to need to manually cast it for the recall

flint turret
wary cedar
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i ll give this a 1/10

serene crane
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I guess I start the ignite DS with Ember amu and see what we can cook
(ba dum tss)

flint turret
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finally no bleed bs

dire sable
serene crane
flint turret
serene crane
wary cedar
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at this point i belive T6/7 Shuri Affix doesnt exist

serene crane
flint turret
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dunno why you just dont corrupt 0lp reigns

wary cedar
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0lp would just be downgrade

flint turret
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so whats the problem then

wary cedar
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i just want better gear

serene crane
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I hope someone makes physical heartseeker with the shuriken corrupt on Gathering Fury

flint turret
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also im not sure i like reign as a shuri bow

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all it does is cold pen for mourning throw

wary cedar
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well it's the best for heartseeker no?

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shuri is still my sup dmg

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main is heartseeker

flint turret
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in this case yeah

serene crane
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What about Flight of the First? It adds more arrows to Multishot, so more shurikens?

flint turret
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drelk adds more

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and -4 manacost

wary cedar
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getting some upgrades today

flint turret
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my second choise would be gathering fury probably

wary cedar
flint turret
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and dragonsong if i wanna be melee

serene crane
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True... but Flight has has some more crit, maybe If you'd stack a lot of crit you could go for the primo Glass amulet for some huge crits

flint turret
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glass doesnt fit in this really

wary cedar
flint turret
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shuri has tons of multi already and no manaregen from nihilis is not optimal

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and no giga res from omnis

flint turret
serene crane
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Yea the resists are crazy

flint turret
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its kinda stupid im almost convinced bow shuri is better of without primo at all

serene crane
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Hopefully EHG adds conversion to a lot of other types, the build variety will go wild

flint turret
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discord isnt much better than elecoe or mountain body

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and the rest isnt really an option

serene crane
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Would the Primo relic for 40-60% idol boost be any good or Uberoth ball is just too good to swap

flint turret
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i would inironically go for this on a body, but crafting it is a pain

flint turret
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and if id swap out uber relic it would be ucenui for huge inc

serene crane
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True thats a good one πŸ€”

flint turret
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there are literally no great primos for this build

serene crane
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How about Static Shell? There should already be enough points in shurikens and this give 15% more lightning damage to shocked mobs

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its just kinda glass cannon omegalul

flint turret
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not sure its worth over elecoe\core

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i was thinking about uzril body

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but i cant use overcapped light res anywhere else sadly

serene crane
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Reading stuff, I guess Discord might be just good, it has crit after all

flint turret
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crit is useless

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shuri corruptions give flat crit

wary cedar
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this is cool for running echos

flint turret
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discord is basically only good to double throwing inc affixes on idols

wispy hatch
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How important is Tabi of Dusk and Dawn? should I wait until I find those boots before i switch over to Shadow Rend Cascade?

serene crane
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You can play without them, but having Tabi boots helps a lot for sure

flint turret
wary cedar
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play without boots
naked feet = best feet

flint turret
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rend clears much better when it moves you intead of you having to be stationary to attack

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and its safer too

wary cedar
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omg i have positiv phys res

serene crane
wary cedar
dusty badge
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HI , how can i slamm this mod? everytime i tried , i get " cant use experimental " thanks!

serene crane
wary cedar
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isnt there a woven echo for that?

serene crane
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Might be that one, I havent done it in a long time :c

dusty badge
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oh the rune gate or something?

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ill check that out , thanks guys

wary cedar
serene crane
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this one

dusty badge
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thanks

serene crane
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But I legit forgot how exactly it works there πŸ˜„

flint turret
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it makes one of prefixes into experimental of your choise of random tier

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if you want t7 experimental you use exalts with t7 suffix and havoc it after

wary cedar
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they should add a woven echo for idols

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i still have not one "final" idol

serene crane
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Isnt it funny how weaver is a lot about new idols and enchanting idols but there isnt a reprint slot for idols in the weaver tree?

wary cedar
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i will not get the weaver idol with two specific affixes in 150hrs of farming

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if we start talking about corrupting and affix range.... omegalul

serene crane
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I got this one, sadly I dont use dagger... πŸ˜„

wary cedar
flint turret
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idol prophesies help a loy of you know what you are looking for

flint turret
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small ones are okay but stouts were nerfed quite a lot

wary cedar
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stout is crit chance and crit multi + crit res

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these two for a weaver idols

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normal rouge idols are fine, not to hard to get

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omen idols on the other hand πŸ’€

flint turret
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you dint need stouts for crit

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its terrible value

wary cedar
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what else should i get there tho?

flint turret
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hp % at least

wary cedar
#

this?

flint turret
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i guess?

wary cedar
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have this one in my stash xd

flint turret
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yeah like this

wary cedar
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NVM

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i have this equipped already

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lmao

flint turret
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i guess you dont need stout idols anymore

wary cedar
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better coruupt would be cool tho

wary cedar
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got the frenzy

glass plaza
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Hey all I just got my friend to finally try out LE and he is deadset on acid flask, I know it got hit hard in season 4 are there any uber abby viable acid flask builds still?

wary cedar
glass plaza
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he doesn't but we play a lot of arpgs and it would be nice to know that the build he wants to build can scale to uber.

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Or more should I say end game viable, like 1k corruption.

wary cedar
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there is no flask build on maxroll, and i also dont know any atm, so i guess - no

glass plaza
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I ussally play primalist so don't know rouge very well.

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I remember the maxroll guys mentioning something in there latest vlog so was just wondering if anyone had anymore info on it.

wary cedar
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i really havent seen anybode in this channel here talk about acid flask

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so i really dont know

glass plaza
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yep I figured, it got hit hard this patch

wary cedar
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maybe your friend can come up with a good build tho omegalul

glass plaza
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lol maybe, there are alot of dead ends in homebrewing in Le lol

serene crane
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He could play with Bladestorm that auto-throws shurikens, new relic that auto-throws explo traps and Bladesstorm node that throws Acid flask... but If thtats viable for uber... no idea tbh omegalul

glass plaza
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Thats pretty close to the primalist build im playing where i get eq procs that proc upheaval which proc avalance and all back and forth. It's pretty mid but thematically fun.

wary cedar
serene crane
wary cedar
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what's better? increased while wielding bow or?

serene crane
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I'd guess the second one πŸ€”

wary cedar
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corrption max rolled it

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so i ll take it xd

shrewd dome
wary cedar
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i keep dying to him

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elden ring endboss

serene crane
shrewd dome
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Yeah relic is nice

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Why does it increase my attack speeds though lol

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I thought haste buff was just movement speed

serene crane
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Haste is also increased damage on rogue with a node; its more likely increased Frenzy effect there

ebon jungle
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dragonsong x heartseeker is going so much smoother than i had anticipated

modest iron
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I'll be honest, I didn't like the fight

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Too many debuffing dot ground

ebon jungle
modest iron
ebon jungle
modest iron
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And tbh, I'm playing after 2 seasons, I'm playing VERY badly

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And idk what I do wrong, most of time, my umbral blade recall doesn't do dmg

serene crane
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Now which one of you can I kidnap as a lab rat for my Bladestorm giga size build?

shrewd dome
ebon jungle
iron crane
shrewd dome
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Just have to brute force him with damage and survive the ground aoe dot

shrewd dome
ebon jungle
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I wonder if i can achieve the same crit chance without peak of the mountain

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through weaver, entwined setup

tawny spoke
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I tried the fire rend and it feels off

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Can someone look at my planner

serene crane
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Is it not on fire? omegalul

ebon jungle
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I wish this wasnt based off on potion find

serene crane
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Im sorry omegalul

tawny spoke
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I’m somehow WAY squishier

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That’s probably the biggest issue

serene crane
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I'd say craft a body armor with doppel affix

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and T6, ideally t7 ward on shadow creation

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Farm the Dragon monolith for 20% all res blessing

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void res blessing from Rahyeh for now

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get some gloves with attack speed/resists/life... ideally on Mirage ones for +1 shadow

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5 points in Cloak of Shadows is fine, can go for Grift for all resists; same with Focus Fire in Marksman you dont need 8 points there just 5

tawny spoke
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Do u have to use the glyph that reshuffles your affix?

tawny spoke
serene crane
# tawny spoke Do u have to use the glyph that reshuffles your affix?
  • find set item
  • either go to The Great Bridge woven echo where you can shatter set items into affix shards; or use corruption rune on the set item. If the item is good, you can keep it or if its crap, shatter it like regular item to get shards
  • find exalted body armor with IDEALLY t7 ward on shadow creation and empty prefix slot (so you dont have to use Removal rune and possibly removing the ward affix)
  • with the prefix slot free, just put the set shard (doppelganger) in there
  • then either seal the t1/t2 with Despair glyph (it still stays a set piece with bonuses and stuff) or upgrade it like usual crafting
tawny spoke
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Why seal the t1/t2?

serene crane
tawny spoke
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OLP?

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Huh doesn’t nemesis egg just give u another random unique?

serene crane
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sealing low tier has the highest chances of getting them sealed, otherwise they go 1 tier higher and the chance gets lower

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Egg has a chance to give you either LP or some random affix

tawny spoke
tawny spoke
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So u hope for attack speed?

serene crane
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Best case you want LP, but ofc you can get lucky with a good affix... and If it turns into some meh legendary, you can always corrupt it

tawny spoke
tawny spoke
serene crane
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like with Dopple body armor, some builds only care about the +1 Shadows not about the damage, so sealing t1 is super much enough

daring blade
tawny spoke
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I still don’t think I get what the point is of sealing an affix lol. Why not just leave it alone?

serene crane
tawny spoke
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Isn’t that what rune of removal is for?

serene crane
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Like on the shadow daggers Rend build I sent you before; there I only care about the +1 to max shadows and not about the damage those shadow skills do, so ideally I just seal t1 doppel affix, then I can craft ward on shadow creation AND shadow daggers penetration on it, which is crazy more value for that build

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Removal completly... removes the affix πŸ˜„

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Despair seals it on the item but the sealed affix still works as usual

tawny spoke
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The affix is sealed instead of being upgraded, freeing up its slot (random chance).

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Freeing up its slot??

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I think I need to just try it for myself lol

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I’m sure it will make sense then

serene crane
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Take literally any item, and use Despair glyph on like t1 affix

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The sealed affix is like 5th slot instead of the regular 4slot items

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What is also important, you cant use the sealed items to slam on uniques

native summit
native summit
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So I don't need to run the echo for shattering

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That is crazy tech is that intentional

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Mana I have been selling bad corruption sets because I could not shatter in the echo

serene crane
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Idk how many affix shards the echo gives you, but shattering the corrupted set items is definitely faster

native summit
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Thanks for sharing

serene crane
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Its just Shattering rune gives you random amount of shards, while Removal rune gives you the maximum number... buuut you cant use Removal on corrupted items anymore

native summit
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Yeah understood but these sets are so easy to farm and running through the echo wasts allot of time

serene crane
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Which is why when you find some item with rare affix, like hybrid life or class affix, its btter to just Remove it

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Yeeee I have like a tab full of pieces to shatter whenever I get to Cemetary to put the echo in the timeline

glass plaza
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looks cool

native summit
ornate wing
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anyone have a shadowrend build that 1shots uberroth

native summit
wary cedar
quartz fable
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any other strong builds use traitors tongue this season? Currently on the shruiken one. Got a tasty 4LP waiting to be slammed.

iron crane
quartz fable
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ty!

jaunty glen
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Honestly Bow Shuriken stuff sounds fun

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But I'm a pleb who loves having a build guide

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Is there any room for a good bow based Falconer btw?

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Not counting Ballista

jaunty glen
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Yeah that's what I was just watching, looks cool

serene crane
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Just cook some weird thing whatever you like and ask here for some things to improve πŸ˜„

buoyant roost
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wazaaap

serene crane
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Back to grinding, Joe ! Gregory

buoyant roost
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did you grind that weaver sword πŸ˜„

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although whats the point now, you killed uber