🔪┃rogue

[serene crane]

Just running in 400c, I started trying to farm those Weaver swords 😄 killed Aberroth once this morning, since then I havent tried, but its quite great, sometimes I see like 1900-2200bleed stacks

[buoyant roost]

doing one-hand sword prophecies I hope?

[serene crane]

For uniques? I didnt pick any, only exalted axe/sword before 😄

[buoyant roost]

no for weaver swords

they drop quite a lot with prophecy

ofc unique prophecies 😄

1900-2200 bleed stacks is crazy though

[wary cedar]

[quartz fable]

On the LizardIRL bladestorm build, isnt it supposed to be throwing shruikans from the bladestorms? Mine arent throwing them. I feel it's because of the blade shield? But the guide says to use that. Sorry if nooby Q.

[cunning jackal]

For shadow cascase build, Flow is also considered Snapshot?

[serene crane]

Its alright for what is it now, but it needs to be higher 😄 weapon with t7 multi and speed will be wild, %bleed chance per sword on body too I only got t3, relic can be like another 35ish percent or so

[pure sequoia]

What are ye cooking? Hail of Arrows?

[serene crane]

Bleed Rend

[hasty fjord]

Tell me how uber abberoth goes. That is my goal this season, and I am looking for any build that can keep up T-T

[deft wadi]

are the bleed explode primordial gloves any good

[daring blade]

I just beat Fading Brink at 800c, so I imagine I can probably do Uber. I just have to get better at the fight. I've gotten through two harbs.

Running a falconer life build. Bladestorm, shuriken, acid flask, smoke bomb, net.

[hasty fjord]

I am running rend, but the highest I got is 25% health. I really wanna kill uber abberoth at least once in my life xD

[daring blade]

You got him down to 25% or removed 25%?

[hasty fjord]

down to 25% and then he healed all the way, and I got one shot from something of the many thing that he spams XD

[jaunty condor]

Anyone got a good tech for mana on rend?

[hasty fjord]

It's Easter and I am not working, so I was deducted, but I am starting to lose hope, can't lie xD

[crimson latch]

still as HS?

[wary cedar]

sure thing

i don't have the strength to do another cha

[jagged sedge]

How does an item have a set piece?

like this?

[wary cedar]

cheaters

not possible

[jagged sedge]

susge

[junior oriole]

there is a woven echo where you can break down set pieces to get shards for crafting such items

[jagged sedge]

Oh okay, which woven echo is that?

thanks btw

[junior oriole]

The great bridge

[jagged sedge]

Ok thanks

[serene crane]

You can corrupt set items and just shatter them unless they remain same item piece or Ruined

[shrewd dome]

with our crit vulnerability passive, we dont really need much crit strike chance right?

how does that calculate

[cunning jackal]

I play maxroll shadow cascade build and my Hp keeps getting above Lowlife threshold after killing mobs. I have the gloves that blocks leech, what might be wrong?

[shrewd dome]

are you spec'ed into Sapping Strikes?

its in the base rogue passive tree, it gives you HP when you kill mobs

[cunning jackal]

No points in that node

[shrewd dome]

what about flow?

[cunning jackal]

Yes build using flow

[shrewd dome]

sounds like you have +HP when you kill a mob somewhere, just gotta find it

[shrewd dome]

flow gives HP on hit

i think you can avoid using it until much later

[cunning jackal]

How does he keeps his Hp low all the time with flow? What I need to improve for it?

[shrewd dome]

i dont know the exact build, but you probably need a huge health pool for starters

thatd be my guess, that way the +hp on hit is insignificant and your HP drain will out drain the gain

[cunning jackal]

My hp pool is 1800 maybe low

He has 2600 hp

[shrewd dome]

yeah I would avoid using flow until the very end

you have to sort of build around it

[jagged sedge]

which set is this

[cunning jackal]

Okay thank you, with flow gone should I also remove points from Ryhtm?

[jaunty condor]

Abandoned or something its called ring+amulet

[jagged sedge]

ok ty

[shrewd dome]

yeah you can clear out that whole line of passives and put it elsewhere

[jagged sedge]

Don't thInk I have this one

[serene crane]

The bleed one is just slower than other builds, normal Aberroth so far is 1min, which isnt really great for Uber

but the gear also isnt optimal yet, so no point poking Uber for now 😄

[hasty fjord]

Looking forward! I always love off meta builds. I usually have a character around to test things around, I have another level 72 character where I tried to build a bow and arrow build, but failed sadly 😂

Also thank you for the gloves tip! It helped a lot. I am now more frequently beyond the 50% mark. Reached 20% but died because I didn’t see any good spot to go with smoke to sadly.

[cunning jackal]

Dont know what it is, I still have it and losing my mind lol

[barren summit]

Can alts skip campaign now? I know they made some changes?

[desert bridge]

They can't skip it entirely, but you can shortcut through the dungeons, which removes like 60% of it, at least

[barren summit]

Is it the same as before?

[wary cedar]

green

[hasty fjord]

Yup. You can use the dungeons to skip the campaign. Usually takes around 2-4 hours to have all points and idol slots.

[buoyant roost]

whats youre more damage

[wary cedar]

i m straight up not lucky with this helmet lmao

[hasty fjord]

welcome to the club. I stopped corrupting. The percentage to rend an item obsolete is high af xD

[wary cedar]

i dont play this game to be a p*ssy

[daring blade]

I corrupt like a madman. You never know what you'll get. Every Weaver item, every failed nemesis item... You get so many runes, you may as well try.

[hasty fjord]

I do, but at the moment on hold till Abberoth is dead.

[daring blade]

Btw are you talking about regular Abby or uber?

[hasty fjord]

100% uber XD

[serene crane]

hu, what

[daring blade]

I was gonna say, if you're struggling with regular Abby your build may need an adjustment lol

[hasty fjord]

nah haha, it is uber abby. I need just one kill this season. I have been doing nothing but crafting and trying to kill uber abby since yesterday XD

I am always having issues near the end where you can't see anything from both your abilities and abby's xD

[daring blade]

Q: why don't more people run smoke bomb as traversal? I see a lot of people running smoke bomb and shift. Seems like a waste.

[hasty fjord]

probably using umbral blade + shift to regain mana?

not sure, just a maybe xD

I am running rend + umbral + smoke + bs

[shrewd dome]

whats better omnis or nihilis?

if they're both decently rolled

[sharp compass]

Does Shadow Cascade still require snapshotting?

[wary cedar]

both are good skills, so why not use both when your build doesnt need any more dmg spells

[wary cedar]

you would make my day so much better, if you would just read the patch notes from s4 before asking <3

[daring blade]

Imo more people ought to use net. It's both defensive and a free 30% more multiplier simultaneously.

[wary cedar]

but would require to put a lot of points into falconer

[sharp compass]

k

[daring blade]

I would say it's worth it. 30% more to all your damage on top of immobilizing or slowing the enemy, inflicting frailty, etc, is very strong.

[wary cedar]

you can't just say that

it all depends on the build you actual play

if you have the skills left

and if you have the passive points left

and if it's even fits good in the build

[daring blade]

I think it likely doesn't get picked because people lack awareness of it and what it can do.

[wary cedar]

well i had it once in my planner

but played a different build then

and if i can see what Net can do everyone else that plans builds can do as well since i m poop in this game lmao

and most ppl just follow the recommended builds anyway

[jaunty glen]

When should I switch over to Heartseeker when I'm levelling? Right when I unlock it or wait til Reign of Winter?

[wary cedar]

i swapped the moment i got it

[hasty fjord]

so close....

I am not backing out. I will kill the b@stard XD

[tribal burrow]

Can someone explain how this is possible? I see 2 prefixes, 3 suffixes and a sealed affix? What am I seeing wrong?

[wary cedar]

[tribal burrow]

Right, had a feeling that was the case

[dusty olive]

I dont see a thiird suffix?

[tribal burrow]

CDR, Health and set

[serene crane]

Its not 3 suffixes, its just crafted set item with the set itself being sealed

[tribal burrow]

Wait uuhh

[hasty fjord]

you can craft reforged set items but you need to have the shards which you get from the bridge woven echo

[tribal burrow]

So the way to go is find the setitem, shard it from the bridge woven echo, put it on a belt, throw the belt in weaver tree top left and hope it drops sealed? (or gamble with the seal-an-affix glyph?)

[hasty fjord]

no

you use the glyph of despair to seal it

[tribal burrow]

glyph i mean* oops yeah

The weaver strat doesn't work?

[hasty fjord]

thus giving you a free prefix spot, which you can add whatever shard you want

[serene crane]

You can grab any set item and corrupt it with the new rune, in most cases it turns into item you can shatter into regula shards (or just shatter the basic set items in the bridge echo) ; just a t1 affix of any set is easy to seal and its enough to make it to work as a set piece

You can use those crafted set items in weaver tree, mostly its crap but it works 😄

[tribal burrow]

Yeah idk what else to throw in the top left weaver tree spot lol, so i guess it might be worth a try xD

Thanks for explaining you two!

[tawny spoke]

wats thje best rogue build rn

[wary cedar]

heartseeker

[tawny spoke]

be so fr

lol

[serene crane]

Didnt you ask like day or two ago? 😄

[tawny spoke]

no one answered

[serene crane]

I did

[tawny spoke]

wait really

how did i miss that

omg lol

is this rend cascade?
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-cascade-bladedancer-guide

[wary cedar]

@tawny spoke may i ask why you re looking for the most op build? do you want to be finished after 2 days?

[tawny spoke]

yeah kinda

im gonna be busy in like a week lol

wanna try to get far before hen

then*

[wary cedar]

for how long will bro be busy? 🥀

[tawny spoke]

idk lol

all these builds require so many uniques

i just hit monoliths

any suggestions on what i can run until i can farm stuff

[wary cedar]

"require" is a hard word

[tawny spoke]

well thats what the guides say

[serene crane]

You wanted the best build :p

[tawny spoke]

no ur right lol

i shouldve asked for a good starter

[wary cedar]

and because the guide says so you can't manage your way with a build to the uniques?

[serene crane]

Try Rend with attack speed and shadow daggers, dagger main main, Jormur sword off hand, jormur belt, Entwined unique ring to act as any set piece, doppelganger helm+body+relic, zerrik hands+boots or If you get it Tabi unique boots are great, Abandoned ring/amulet or the blue set ring that goes with red one (just blue gives you %crit, health, mana, mana regen)

high attack speed, %pen for SD on idols, later crafted on body/helmet and ward on shadow creation on body/helmet

[tawny spoke]

im kinda using rend now so mayube ill stil to it

and look for these items

[serene crane]

Rend for SD procs, Massacre+shadow resummon node, atack speed+smoke field node; Umbral Blades with recall is free mana sustain and SD with shadow spawn chance; Cascade with mana refund and dagger dance to throw SD daggers literally everywhere

[tawny spoke]

sd is shadow dagger?

[serene crane]

Yea

[tawny spoke]

do u get the smoke field thing that makes it traversal

[balmy lion]

Hey, anyone who can help me to make more damage and more survivalbility? with my bladedancer?

Iam not so good at the game mechaniks

[wary cedar]

shadow cascade

oh nvm

i m sleepy

dont mind me

[serene crane]

You can take that just need to get some mana regen and that 5mana on dodge from Falconer, ideally +1 to max shadows from Mirage affix gloves is huge too... with Smoke as traversal you can make Umbrals do the explosions instead and swap Shift to Bladestorm with nodes for high attack speed+hit rate+SD procs

I was playing that pretty much fine till like 500-700, then I got enlightened and swapped to Shift+Umbral recall instead

[tawny spoke]

does this work early?

feels like y might need good mana regen rolls

[serene crane]

once you get the basic set pieces and ring, you can start corrupting Doppel and Jormun sets for some high tier attack speed and crit multi, it really adds a solid chunk of damage and survivability (with so much attack speed you simply start summoning shadows that give you ward, I only have t5 on body and the 2 points in Rend and get to like 5-8k ward)

[tawny spoke]

whats the best way to get the set pieces? mg/cof?

[serene crane]

I was playing with it the moment I could equip the items, one by one 😄 the blue ring has a bit of mana regen on it, bladedancer has mana regen node with frailty aswell and get the 5mana on dodge from Falconer... then the attack speed with shadow cascade that refunds you mana

I always go CoF, no idea for how much they sell in season

You can always go Shift+Umbrals instead, especialyl If you get t7 cdr on Tabi boots, it gets way smoother

[wary cedar]

MG is just so much work

idk who would pick MG voluntary

[tawny spoke]

is it??

[serene crane]

Falconers that farmed hundred Ubers per day since 1.2

[dusty olive]

Cof is strictly superior because the dopamine hit you get when you complete like 4 prophecies at once and the screen just explodes

[tawny spoke]

btw what altars should i look out for

there are sooo many

[serene crane]

For the shadow daggers Rend I run with %increased effect of prefixes, you can get like 15-50% on the pyrmid one where you can stack 5 Large ones each up to 24% base, then added damage to each since every one of the Large ones get the bonus

Corrupted Large can roll 36%, so If you get lucky with +X to corrupted idols on the altar, then great 😄

on the side you can look for the 4x1 flat ones with Umbral Blade increased damage per Dusk Shroud, idk If thats on Maxroll, but @ Misha (I think?) pretty much oneshotted Uber with it... I'd say the builds are pretty similar, just purely SD wont oneshot Uber 😄 right now Im just farming 800c, bosses either getting stunned to oblivion or Lagoon has no time to live to 2nd phase

[tawny spoke]

SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

caps*

[serene crane]

For the start its alright I guess 😄 Its the prefixes bonus you want for SD penetration idols

This is what I have, its super much not ideal but works just fine 😄 could get better dagger base (Obsidian) , sword base (katana), Dragon Visage helm base, Umbral coat body is nice to have to later swap for... and blahblahblah crit multi and stuff
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83pyWJ6

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (79) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,106, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 172.73, Regen: 11.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 49%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 53 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 141% / 102% / 87% / 150% / 46% / 85% / 131%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 421
▸ Dodge Chance: 26% (900)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (664)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 23%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 68%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Shift

[serene crane]

t7 throw damage on belt and on Omnis would be ideal... then some crafted Abandoned ring with t7 throw and phys damage

[daring trench]

should i rune of redemption this

[serene crane]

Maybe Havoc into t3 preffix and 2x t7 suffix, chaos t3 hopefully into movement speed or risk Sealing it, then Redemption and hope for t7 cdr and t7 hybrid? My noobie guess

Int you can always swap in one of the wovem echoes If or has FP left

[shrewd dome]

how do we calculate critical strike vulnerability on enemies?

[cobalt mantle]

It's added at the very end after all other calcs. At max stacks, it basically means you cap crit at 80% instead of 100%.

[shrewd dome]

ah okay nice

[pastel field]

bruh why did I go cof this season

these razorfalls are so rare lmao

[storm lantern]

yeah, ive only found them from prophecies

[crimson latch]

:c

why the shadow rend does apply almost 100% of base dmg from shadow caascade but with multishot sucks?

[crimson latch]

bro listen to me, im cooking just got 700k crit with multishot :V

[crimson latch]

dude EHG needsd to rework dark quiver, the arrow generation must be without picking that fcking shit, why all the other calses have so many syncs with plenty of interaction for many skills

[jaunty glen]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/heartseeker-marksman-guide Is it ever worth it to just spec Smoke Bomb as a Traversal here and use the shift for something else like decoy?

[tough thunder]

are the mourningfrost a big damage spike for ballista falconer?

[solar gyro]

Sick find

[pastel field]

Bruh

I got the razor boots

Worse roll ever

[solar gyro]

Now I need double t7 exalt

[elder condor]

Have y’all been doing shadow rend BD and sync strike dancing strike BD?

[ebon python]

Having some trouble with my bleed bladedancer's survivability in low corruption empowered - pinnacle of chaos wrecked me. Any obvious tips? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4Xdxb3d

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 83

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 1,976, Regen: 23.62/s
▸ Mana: 133.92, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 66 Dex / 13 Int / 7 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 140% / 86% / 74% / 68% / 70% / 108%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 395
▸ Dodge Chance: 44% (1432)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,407)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 78%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 135%

Used skills:

Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Puncture / Shadow Cascade

[topaz schooner]

ah yes good to see this method still works

[serene crane]

• Try taking Perfection and Confidence in BD passives, I'd swap the 3 points from Mastered Form to Shadow Master just for the extra Dusk stacks
• Reign of Dragons for the 20% all resist blessing, you're now overcapped with crit avo and you can always get a "blind on hit" on one of the weapons
• Spirits of Fire timeline for flat armor blessing; Age of Winter for %armor blessing - it stacks nicely with the Perfection stacks from BD tree
• look for Nomad unique ring - it has solid resistances and nice life, shouldnt be too hard to find with 1LP for health/%phys damage
• in Cascade drop 1point from Fray, Flow State and Rapid Expanse and get the 3 mana refund nodes
• weapons you ideally want either two Katanas with t7 crit multi/%dot/%chance to bleed/blind or phys pen (and sealed at least t1 Jormun set); can also look for Dragonbone or Wengari axe with pretty much the same affixes
• with Salt the Wounds you want crit multi on the gear, also can get up to 40% crit multi blessing from Black Sun timeline
• body is okay, but something like %chance to bleed per sword/%chance to bleed with shurikens/double health or resists; If you'd play axe+sword then Dusk Shroud on hit is great
• dex stacking is kinda wasting points and affixes, on the relic you can look for t6/t7 Dancing Strikes
• in Shurikens move 3 points from Weighted Projectiles => Abrasive Arsenal for the phys resist shred so you dont have to get blessing

[serene crane]

What method? 🤔

[topaz schooner]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1k4d36a/i_believe_ive_found_a_method_of_farming_havoc_and/

forcing generic rune rewards in cemetery to have much higher chance of getting havoc/redemption

I was curious if they patched it because they added beasts which drop a lot of them if you get "rare rune" in the beast evolutions

i did 20 generic outside of tombs and got 6 havoc runes

which is better than it was, but yeah turns out you can still get 4-6 from a single prophecy if you complete the prophecy inside a tomb

[serene crane]

Thats pretty cool then 🤔 I started dropping Havoc/Redemption quite often from just random drops, even as echo rewards its not something bad at all

[topaz schooner]

Yeah it is much more common than it was

[buoyant roost]

you're more damage on bleed 😄 where does it comef rom

[buoyant roost]

You started dropping? What's your loot table 😄

[serene crane]

Salt the Wounds big and the 1x4 idols with up to 90%dot roll are also pretty big for the damage 😄

[serene crane]

No idea, I just started seeing them more often now in 1.4 than in 1.2... the only things I really have is 1point in Runic Hoard (10% for pile of runes per echo reward) and blocked glyphs, keys and gold... might be just luck

[buoyant roost]

This was a joke 😄 I meant in terms like you drop them haha. The way you phrased it 😄

[serene crane]

I think I'll pause the bleed rend for a bit and farm some better gear with the SD Rend instead tho, its just stronger in higher corruption and surely uber viable too... bleed for Observer is just enough I'd say

[thin vessel]

hello does anyone know for certain that there is synergy between these inthe acid flask skill tree?

[serene crane]

should work 🤔

[thin vessel]

ah! yeah i forgot to press alt~ my bad

[buoyant roost]

I only play whats fun at the moment 😄 I can't care about corruption push haha. Altoholia 🙁

[serene crane]

I went to like 1450, farmed echoes still easily but bossing was a lil bit slower and with Rend+smoke covering your entire screen, its super easy to get one shotted by Shade or whatever, so I just dropped it back to 700-800 where the bosses melt 😄

[buoyant roost]

I think thats the sweet spot

I reached the Temporal Sanctum yay. No more campaign 😄

[serene crane]

Big bleed hail of arrows? 😄

[round ember]

hello, i'm playing bladedancer shuriken build and am trying to go for uberroth, just wondering what else can i optimize my build more?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Kelon/character/KelonBM

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message check this from Icrine, it might have some useful stuff for you

[buoyant roost]

Haha. Eventually probably. First I want to try out to get the big damage out of Pucnture from the charging node. Stay of Execution gives +100% more and the other node +250% more. There's gotta be a way to deal big damage with this skill. + you have the node hit damage per negative ailment . It has really a lot of MORe damage. My idea is to use somehow heartseeker as sort of a clear and puncture to see how much dmg it can do 😄 Maybe someone done it before, not sure, but I'm doing it on my own 😄

[serene crane]

I've never tried the charged Puncture so no idea 😄 I usually used it for bleed buffs and big pops some time ago; also that node that summons 2 mirages next to you is a fun one, Ragu was playing with it for shadow daggers, but it could work for dots too I guess

Heartseeker should be proccing Puncture it looks pretty funny 😄

[topaz schooner]

unlucky

at least i have a 2lp to reroll with now ig

[serene crane]

On the bright side, this one will only remove 10% of your ward and health on evade

[buoyant roost]

yes the mana node is important. because in the marksman tree you have on spent mana to spend more mana for more damage 😄

its really crazy how much more damage there is there

[serene crane]

also some idols and I think body/helmet has direct phys penetration for Puncture, might be interesting trying out 😄

[buoyant roost]

ye. to that I didnt evne come 😄 I love figuring things along the way

if it fails, going back to Hail of Arrows 😄

[serene crane]

t7 38% on body; +4 with 100% phys dmg on helmet... Longshot has some stuff for Puncture too unless you want to spam it with Gathering Fury 😄

[serene crane]

I guess that depends how far you wanna push builds 😄

Gathering Fury with the shuriken corruption, mirage nodes and shadow daggers build could be funny now, not exactly scaling damage for Puncture, just throw for shurikens and SD 😄

[buoyant roost]

yes. I use that bow now XD

because I leveld up with throwing, easiest with bladestorm I think

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ3ZndwD

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 57

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Marksman (35)

General:

▸ Health: 833, Regen: 10.21/s
▸ Mana: 149.24, Regen: 12.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 16/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 24 Dex / 19 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 18% / 35% / 18% / 29% / 0% / 5% / 10%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 167
▸ Dodge Chance: 27% (612)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (237)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 103%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Shurikens / Puncture / Heartseeker / Dark Quiver

[buoyant roost]

and currently with this bow i use heartseeker that proces shurikens, and bladestorm

its pretty easy clear 😄

[serene crane]

Even throwing axes with Riverbend gloves, now THATS a throw build

[fallow verge]

You can take the three projectile node, they can hit a same ennemies ^^

[buoyant roost]

Yes. That's the also + mana node which is important

[fallow verge]

Im curious about damage, if you can take a little video or something like that when you got enough gear 🥹

[buoyant roost]

yeah for sure. and I think for the bow I must take the Tier8 primordial

because no other bow will give me large base physical damage

[serene crane]

phys shred from shurikens is easy pick; armor shred from bladestorm and slow; Redouble and Rehabilitation in Puncture should also boost the damage nicelyy 😄

[fallow verge]

AS improve charging time for puncture ? (Im at work, can't check 😂)

[buoyant roost]

I dont think ti does. But black arrow does. It reduces it by half. I just hope the more damage per second applies then

omg

this just dropped 🙁 this is deal for bleed

[serene crane]

Bleed Hs is fun build

[buoyant roost]

that's the my falloff build. Hail of arrows + heartseeker

the only real thing I dislike about marskan is that black arrow mechanic. I guess its a bit better now. but the skill is clunky to use, you have to chase those arrows while avoiding deaths

theres no way that you can really pay attention to those in echos, because death is imminent 😄

[wary cedar]

how does bleed even does dmg

how you scale that shit

[serene crane]

Yea reminds me of Chayula monk from PoE2, you had a passive with breach around you that can spawn 3 (or just 1 chosen flame), flames where each color gives you some different thing... but you need to go and run through it to get the buff 😄

maybe Black Arrow should have something like "whenever you use a bow skill, consume the nearest black arrow" ?

[buoyant roost]

The first trick is to apply as man stacks. HS can do that no problem. The second is to get a lot of physical damage increase. Also nodes that do more damage (not more hit damage)

[serene crane]

I just run Salt the Wounds, Crit multi that gets converted into bleed pen and then the usual suspects of %dot and %phys damage

[buoyant roost]

So any skill that has more damage and applies build, will also apply that more damage to bleed

you also have bleed duration, but bleed duration I think is only really good if you have a way to consume bleeds

[wary cedar]

i could imagine it being good against bosses, but whatabout the clear?

[buoyant roost]

for example Puncture node

for HS is easy. You check the pucnture node on HS, and it will consume those bleeds

[serene crane]

Ive only played it until like 200c so nothing much, but it was alright

[buoyant roost]

so for example if you are to deal a million damage over say 5 seconds, it will be done right away

[wary cedar]

i might swap one red ring for this

should be good dmg%

[buoyant roost]

its only 3%

its not that great

[wary cedar]

?

[buoyant roost]

oh wait its shock sorry

its 10 times

10%

[wary cedar]

oh man

it has max stacks

then nvm xd

[potent rune]

Wouldn't carrion gloves cales better the bleed build than salt the wound gloves

[buoyant roost]

that would be crazy if it would be like 1% more damage per bleed haha 😄

imagine stacking 2000 stacks 2000% more damage

one shutting everything

after you apply that bleed that is haha

[crimson latch]

omnni strt farm got fixed isnt?

[serene crane]

Probably depends how much %dot chances you get to convert to bleed chance

[potent rune]

Yeah depends how far you want to go with it

In super endgame probably better choice

[serene crane]

With Rend bleed Im at 450-550% bleed chance, 1700-2200 bleed damage and between 1500-2200 stacks is what Ive seen the highest so far... depends on what gear I put on and Im still messing around with gear

[buoyant roost]

the good dps check is to go o nthe boss dummy

and after applying bleeds see for how much it ticks

[serene crane]

Its a bit hard to say, it goes on and off too fast

my bleed duration isnt that great without Corsair helmet and Exile boots

[serene crane]

It should also stack If you have 2 of them? 😄 which could be alright I guess

[buoyant roost]

Whats a rehabiliation node :D? You probably meant Debilation. The more damage per ailment

[serene crane]

lol yea that one, I just forgot what word it was

[ebon jungle]

is it possible to solely focusing on burning dagger with dragonsong?

[wary cedar]

what?

[topaz schooner]

wow finally a good craft

[buoyant roost]

you actually record your crafts 😄

[topaz schooner]

forgot the /s

[buoyant roost]

its a good one though

[serene crane]

Why is the idol slot empty? :c

[topaz schooner]

still looking for those :D

[topaz schooner]

nah its steam

steam has its own replay/shadowplay now

i use it incase i ever drop a mirror in poe one day

copium

[ebon jungle]

i sees jormun sword. i wanna see the build now lol

[topaz schooner]

just typical set stacking cascade nothing fancyh

[ebon jungle]

i do have a max corrupt jormun and a 2lp +2+2 traitor 😂

[serene crane]

shift+windows+s for ezpz cropped screenshot? 😄

[topaz schooner]

still trying to get a good lp2 with t7 melee attack speed and t5 flat

ive missed...

so many traitors

:(

and my last run i get a critical success on a nihilis

ofc

[serene crane]

I got greedy with my 1LP Omnis and ran out of all the bricks for rerolling...

[wary cedar]

hands down

i m to lazy for rerolling

[topaz schooner]

desync is so bad rn

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost I present to you... VOID BLADEDANCER ! its giga scuffed, but...its perfectly tailored to work together, it just might struggle a bit on life/resists, but thats nothing few affixes and idols couldnt fix mana should be fiiiine with Shift+UB recall, shadow daggers and crits everywhere to Fire Aura from body+belt for the %void damage boost; Tongue for the needed crit, Siphon for Doom as 2nd Void DoT being boosted by Time Rot Forgotten Knight set itself and Atrophy gloves for the easy void DoT pen; Crystal sword base for the additional attack speed for Lightning-converted Rend
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEm07vV <=== updated link with idols

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (79) / Marksman (13)

General:

▸ Health: 1,249, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 116.51, Regen: 9.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 21 Dex / 8 Int / 8 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 102% / 112% / 66% / 25% / 64% / 43%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 70%, Threshold: 320
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (258)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (757)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 25%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 55%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shift

[elder condor]

these two seem to be neck and neck with each other

[serene crane]

Poison Rend seems to be still missing there...

[buoyant roost]

So your only source of time rot on hit is amulet? 😄 you sure its enough?

[serene crane]

Time Rot only stacks to 12... why? Who knows... 😄

Doom stacks to 4

[buoyant roost]

but doom will only incerase your melee damage

and you dont have melee void skill

[cobalt mantle]

It's because EHG uses 12 hour time instead of 24 hour

[buoyant roost]

Sorry not melee void, just melee in general

[serene crane]

Rend is still melee

also Doom has 400 DoT

[buoyant roost]

oh didnt know it has dot

interesting. btw my puncture build seems to eb falling apart XD

[serene crane]

me neither dw

[buoyant roost]

1 big reason heartseeker costs mana 🙁

[serene crane]

damn 'muricans nerfing my time rot bladedancer by their silly day times....

[serene crane]

Because of damage? :c

[buoyant roost]

because of hearseeker mana cost mostly, first reason

2nd is yes daamage, and only because puncture has 100% scaling

if it had 125% or 150% would be differents tory

also no crit nodes on puncture, so achieving cirt chance is hard

[serene crane]

Might need Flight of the First bow with slammed crit on it ro something

[brittle blaze]

Are there any lightning converts for marksman or is shuriken the only one besides detonating arrow that can do lighting damage?

[cobalt mantle]

Shadow rend also

[brittle blaze]

Ah ok cool. I find it weird that the bow abilities all basically go cold or fire but don’t have lightning variants for the most part. Was hoping there was tech to make heartseeker or multi shot do lightning but guess it’s just not a thing

[wary cedar]

we also have two void quivers with not one void bow ability

[cobalt mantle]

Yeah, tbh I have no clue why DA is lightning instead of fire by default, especially considering lightning is generally an off-brand element for rogue

Oh yeah, explosive trap and net have lightning, too

[brittle blaze]

Haha I keep trying to cook up some fun builds but there is so much of this. Like if you convert some skills to let’s say void or necrotic, but take nodes in the skill tree for abilities it doesn’t convert the added ability

Like I’ll be doing a blood spell that does fire damage from a proc but it’s suppose to convert all fire or some shit but doesn’t

So many odd choices that don’t synergies

[wary cedar]

i jsut wished they would ve added elemental conversions for all elements and weapons - corrupted affixes also seem like a good way for it

i also tried to cook up some builds, but i feel somewhat limited and just ended up with the meta

[brittle blaze]

Yeah the scaling for stuff seems so frustrating. You can play stuff for flavor but if you really want to play ball you kind of have a set path

And now the game hurts more so you can’t really just pick something and send it

Like I feel in prior seasons I could always just kind of throw together an off meta after league start and have fun but it seems like some of the off meta stuff has really fallen behind

[wary cedar]

hmm think you can still do abberoth with most off meta shit you can come up

[brittle blaze]

Oh for sure

[wary cedar]

it's just the expectations are higher in terms of "i want to farm easily on 500corr at least"

if a build can't easily smash 300corr echos it's not really a fun grind

[brittle blaze]

Yeah and I would be curious to see how some would feel with new league mechanic

You really gotta kind of cook for some of those

I would say any good build should be comfortably farming 500 corruption though I can’t imagine enjoying a struggle after just fighting regular Abby being a good time

Maybe with new class they will let us make some new stuff. If it’s a mix of all the classes would be cool to dip into like void knight and play a bow

[wary cedar]

i think in generall it would be cool if you could use one ability from other classes

[brittle blaze]

Oh man doing some time rot stuff on bow would be so fun with purple screen melts

[serene crane]

Idk If you remember the road map from before 1.2, but on one of the older screenshots there were skill trees with some kind of socketable/extra nodes that normally arent here, so who knows what we might hopefully get next season

[wary cedar]

i barely remember the last time i pooped

[brittle blaze]

Or getting like flay on bladedancer would be so fun

[serene crane]

If Marksman finally gets some void attention I bet it will be tied to lowlife

[brittle blaze]

I don’t love the low life stuff honestly but it is strong as hell

[wary cedar]

well i already figured that the marksman passive tree doesnt really like low life xd

for example, you straight up lose 75% crit multi on low life

and bow attack speed

[serene crane]

Yea but that doesnt mean there cant be item/node that converts life on hit to ward instead

[wary cedar]

yea of course

if they would give us such

it would be op

or at least it would work

[serene crane]

BD has the same thing, you take lowlife and some nodes wont work for you anymore 😄

by some I mean "two"

[serene crane]

Wasnt there something for Hs to be just spammy?

[rugged night]

Hey I’m level 85 Marksman (first time playing rogue) just started empowered monos after clearing all the normal ones, I’m having trouble with survivability tho, any tips ?

All resistances are capped except Poison and Void

[wary cedar]

i wouldnt bother with survivabilty

just get more dmg so you kill everything in a mono without the enemies being able to touch you

survivabilty is lategame thing against uber

for just normal grinding in monos focus on dmg

[elder condor]

hmm I might try this build instead idk.. heard this and shadow cascade are s tier from maxroll but at least with this build it only needs one unique plus I love sync strike lol

[serene crane]

The usual suspects items 😄

[clever basalt]

Hye guys, does the doppelganger set drops for any class ? like can i farm it on my vk please ?

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane biggest damage i saw was like 125k on primal beast 😄 and thats on level 85 Xd (with puncture)

suprisingly for bow damage there are almost no uniques

[buoyant roost]

yes for sure

[serene crane]

Hmmm thats not so great 😄

[clever basalt]

Sweet thx

[serene crane]

If you're CoF, just pick few set relic prophecies and soon enough you'll have plenty of full Doppel sets

[clever basalt]

Yeah that's what i've done but since i've seen every set in the game except this one, i was wondering 😄

[serene crane]

Maybe make sure you dont have rogue set items hidden in a loot filter 😄

[clever basalt]

Should show all of them right ? am pretty dumb when it comes to the filter lol

[serene crane]

Yea as long as the rule is above any other rule that would hide such items 😄

[clever basalt]

I should be fine then 😄 ty !

[elder condor]

https://youtu.be/Dc67GE0XQ0s?si=VNE4CXnq7mdQvhhN does this look slow for mapping?

[serene crane]

You one-tap everything while being tanky af at 1000c, you could swap out Tabis and nodes for mapping and be just fine

[serene crane]

I just started a new lineage for Rift Beast, picked a random set item reward and this is from the first kill... 😄

[clever basalt]

Just went to grab few new prophecies and i got it too hehe

Time to try shadow rend !

[serene crane]

Also look for Mirage (champion sealed affix) gloves for +1 shadows (+2 Primordial If you arent using any other Primordial item); Tabi boots aswell... big damage

[clever basalt]

Got those aswell ! they were waiting in a stash hehe

[rugged night]

Yeah that’s what I been told as rogue just focus on DMG, my dmg is pretty respectable but I find myself getting one shotted sometimes, I heard the new Ward chest piece from the beast vendor is really good on rogue, might try that out

[rugged night]

My build is in a weird spot , im way too strong for normal monos but keep getting popped in empowered monos

[wary cedar]

dont.

it's not really good for marksman

[wary cedar]

maybe just share your current build, ill see where you can fit in some survivabilty etc

[rugged night]

Really? I heard Raxx saying it was super good but I was weary on it myself

[rugged night]

Appreciate that I deff will when I get home from work later, is there a way to upload my build somewhere to share it?

[wary cedar]

you can play it, but you would lose two really good passive nodes for it

[clever basalt]

Oh god i don'tk now if my computer can handle shadow rend

Kek

[wary cedar]

go on lastepochtools -> my builds -> create a build by importing your character via ingame names -> save n share

[rugged night]

Awesome thank you

[rugged night]

Which ones?

[wary cedar]

these two

you lose the 24% speed and 75% crit multi

because both give you health on hit which you don't really wanna have on a low life setup

[rugged night]

Ahhhh okay okay I see you

Yeah that’s a lot to lose

Especially cause I’m playing a Heartseeker/Cinder Strike build with the Dragonsong Bow that I need crit for it to proc

[wary cedar]

i just play regular heartseeker

[serene crane]

bleedbeeseeker

short as "eeeeee"

[rugged night]

https://www.actionrpg.com/last-epoch/guide/67bc2d6a27dcd1036cdc0332
im loosely following this build, mixing some stuff in with my home cooked version

[wary cedar]

i would never trust a build that isn't using full uniques/sets xd

[clever basalt]

we can't extract the +shadow affix right ?

[serene crane]

No, its fixed on gloves and cant be slammed on uniques

Buuut you can corrupt gloves into it I think, I have some in stash

[clever basalt]

Alright thanku, cause on the maxroll guide i follow, they have it on body not sure how

[serene crane]

You either take set item and go to Bridge woven echo where you can shatter them into shards... ooooor you corrupt them and unless the item bricks, you can shatter them normally into shards

then just use the shards to craft, it'll use the set affix shard to turn the item into a working set piece

[clever basalt]

Ohh yeah i see, thanks !!

[clever basalt]

thanks !! ❤️

[serene crane]

You can also seal the Dopper affix

[zenith sequoia]

Yo rogue enthusiast, I was testing some stuff out on rogue last night. Currently it's possible to consume flow and get benefits on channeled skills, such as flurry/shadow cascade. Still doesn't work with bow skills, but it working like this puts something like channeled flurry DoT on the table

[clever basalt]

😄 first time i think i actually craft something in the game lol thanks a lot for the tips

[serene crane]

biiig 😄 once you get the right item its not really hard to craft something really good, just sometimes If you need to remove something it can screw you over 😄

[serene crane]

You sure? 🤔 it says Flow can be consumed only by non-channeled skills

[zenith sequoia]

yeah, I'm sure

I tested all types of channeled skills to see if it was bugged in anyway. I don't trust tooltips lmao

[serene crane]

Idk about channeled Flurry tho, havent touched that since 0.9... it got better by now with all the items and stuff, but no idea how THAT much better

[zenith sequoia]

idk either, the prior version was bugged so helped it a lot

[fading burrow]

can anyone send me the filter that contains filter for champion affix: +1 shadow?

[errant pollen]

So reading bladed shield, shift casting shuriken won't give you the extra armor anymore right?

[serene crane]

In affixes look for Personal and "Mirage"

[serene crane]

yea it doesnt give armor like that anymore, sadly

[errant pollen]

so how does the shift throws Shuriken work? If you have them orbit you, do you need more than 1 point or will 1 point cast your multiple shuriken as if you cast it?

[serene crane]

More points in Shift shuriken node will just throw more shurikens that will do damage, thats all... more points more shurikens 😄

[errant pollen]

So one point is good if i'm just using them to proc a spinning shield to apply status?

[serene crane]

Yea but also more shurikens is more status effects

if its shred its probably fine

[errant pollen]

nah, doing poison and bleed

trying a full dot setup

I finally got my pieces together last night for what I was planning, but even with like 180% ward retention, I couldn't hold on to more than 2k ward at once. No where near the 8-10k I wanted to last around 3s during combat

[serene crane]

What do you use to get ward? 😄

[wary cedar]

what is even life

[serene crane]

A resource

[wary cedar]

drain me

[errant pollen]

Recalling umbral blades

[serene crane]

Yea I doubt that will get you to 8k alone... Shift alone without recalling UB gives me 900; Rend is what would keep ward up during combat at like 6-11k usually

[faint sapphire]

If I'm using Acid Flask, have Knowledge of Immunity allocated (poison pen per uncapped poison res), and have Vial of Volatile Ice equipped (poison -> cold conversion) does the entire node convert to cold or just the poison penetration?
The node says, "Effects which convert Acid Flask's base damage also convert this penetration," but would the penetration now be based on cold resistance or would it still be based on poison resistance?

also would the penetration be just for the base damage or would it also apply to the poison/frostbite applied by the skill?

[serene crane]

Should work from what people say
https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1c3m5gv/cold_acid_flask_question/

[faint sapphire]

thanks!

[serene crane]

No ward, but....

[clever basalt]

Oh damn !

Ward feels really comfy to have tho

But so much damages 😭

[serene crane]

I can just get t7 on helmet with 2/2 Rend node and call it a day 😄

If only it was the other base with damage of shadow skills implicit

[serene crane]

hah I corrupted it and got 100% stun immunity and 20% evade cooldown recharge

[clever basalt]

Oh dang gz, am way too scared to corrup mine lul

[kind adder]

Finally got a 1LP astral blood, slammed it, and corruption removed my slam 😭

[serene crane]

you can either risk it or just wait until you at least find something a bit worse you can use in case you brick the good one 😄

[clever basalt]

Yeah i'll wait, tried it on my vk on my T8 helm, bricked it, and cried kekw

[errant pollen]

14 ward per recalled blade, per target hit. During horde fights in omen windows it easily hits 6-8k. In a solo 1v1 boss fight, it's more like 2k but yeah

[wary cedar]

should be better than a red ring

[serene crane]

Damn right

[wary cedar]

some low rolls tho

but getting Base Items for crafting really sucks this season

everything is just nemesis

you want high lp items? nemesis
you want good bases for slamming? nemesis

[serene crane]

Thats why Im just counting with single t7 slams

[wary cedar]

still, high FP you can only get from Nemesis

[serene crane]

Yeah, I think high FP can drop in higher corruption tho, no? 🤔

Then you do a first craft and... -23FP

[wary cedar]

🚬

[storm scaffold]

How do you setup an item for your crafts? I found a 3LP Thor slinger but all exalted belts I have with throwing damage have terrible affixes on them. Or do I just spam prophecies and hope for the best?

[wary cedar]

pray

how often can i corrupt these lmao

until they brick? xd

[serene crane]

Yep

[wary cedar]

what's the max count of affixes you can get on these? xd

[serene crane]

Well either get some exalted belt prophecies, find and craft some with t7 of what you want and 3 other good t5 affixes and slam it, knowing the t7 is guaranteed and 2 of them will still be useful... or just be lucky and find 2x or more t6-7, try Redemption/Havoc/Sealing low tier affix and hope you get enough FP with all the steps

[serene crane]

Absolutely no idea 😄

[signal heart]

Is this "corrupted with perfect stats" a competetive alternative to a very badly rolled LP1 (with probably Health% or a T7 Skill)?

[potent rune]

6

[wary cedar]

7

😂

[potent rune]

With ruined 7🥲

Decent corruption rune sink

[wary cedar]

you need to go through fps hell for it

[crimson latch]

2 weeks and still 0 of these

[wary cedar]

i got three at once from the boss

you sure you did the boss?

[crimson latch]

what boss :V

from the woven echo ?

[wary cedar]

fractured whatever he is called boss

[magic ether]

Does anyone have problems with Silver Shroud? I just got oneshot from Ice Nemesis shotgun, out of curiousity with Silver Shroud stack it killed me four times in a row and stacks didn't even fell off. I clearly remember i could dodge that.

[crimson latch]

xd

EHG makes all classes tanky excepto for MM

maybe a weird hitbox

[wary cedar]

we wait in the shadow
one day we will raise out of the dust

pew pew pew

[desert bridge]

Clearly you haven't been playing mage, lol

[magic ether]

Weird hitbox four times straight? Nah, it even ignored Glancing Blow

[desert bridge]

Could have been accidentally changed to a DoT somehow, wouldn't be the first time

I feel like a bunch of stuff is weirdly overtuned this season

[magic ether]

Yeah, that is my thought. Bugreported it just in case.

[wary cedar]

i ll go farm better gear lol

[lapis pumice]

Skill issue, just silver shroud it 🤓

[wary cedar]

Good Sir, i dont even know what a silver shroud is

[lapis pumice]

💀

[serene crane]

Just say "No!" Uberroth then must respect your decision and not Triple Flail Slam you

[wary cedar]

he put his purple space aids under me

idk what attack this is

when it does dmg

or how to dodge it

[lapis pumice]

What shape ?

Lot of purple shit

[wary cedar]

big

lot

bright

very prupel

nearly pink

[lapis pumice]

Line ?

O no slam

[wary cedar]

line?

no no

this is a attack normal abberoth dont do

[serene crane]

Huge flying purple balls that drop a cute void DoT pool on the ground?

[wary cedar]

no no

not cute

big

like everywhere

[serene crane]

Surely you mean the ones that fly around

[wary cedar]

the pink purple

the big one

is this like the attack from the birb in this one echo?

[serene crane]

No idea, you got Pokéballed

[wary cedar]

thats not me in the picture

[lapis pumice]

It's triple slam indicator

(what u died to in ur death récap)

[wary cedar]

ya i fuigured the attack out now

i m just kinda screwed if he does it when i m further away

i cant dodge it then

and i also dont see him doing it

i just see the purple spawning below me

😭

[lapis pumice]

Pop smoke screen to get silver shroud stacks when it happens

Guaranteed 100% dodge

U shouldnt die to hit damage as rogue given u have a defensive button ready, that's one of the class' main strength

Be it silver shroud or shift iframe or u name it

[wary cedar]

maybe i need to play shift - smoke instead of smoke - decoy then

[buoyant roost]

I mean, rogue and spell damage go like bread and butter, didn't you hear

[woeful glade]

Where do i get the + Maximum Shadows from the gloves `?

[serene crane]

It drops from Champion enemies with "Mirage" bright text below their name

If you pick the nodes in Weaver tree for higher champion spawn rate, you'll run into them soon

You can also randomly find them during Omen encounters, Omen's Veil echo with the tripple Omen window or If you arent using any Primordial item, you can go to Bloodline Glade woven echo and get it as Primordial t8 which gives +2 shadows

[woeful glade]

Ahh ok thx

[wary cedar]

are you being sarcastic?

because on heartseeker spell dmg really ain't bad

[buoyant roost]

yes lol 😄

[buoyant roost]

how

[wary cedar]

YOU FOOL

[wary cedar]

Icecicle is Spell Dmg

if you play dragonsong the fire as well

for dragonsong spell dmg is huge

[buoyant roost]

and how do I combine heartseeker and dancing strikes. maybe I spin around and shoot heartseekrs out of my ass

that would be the build 😄

[serene crane]

Could do that with Dragonfire aswell after eating some KFC

[wary cedar]

you know what

i hope you step on lego bricks

[buoyant roost]

I hope your leg pinky maps where all the furniture corners are

[serene crane]

WRONG ONE

[buoyant roost]

hmm. its still usable 😄

[wary cedar]

but why are you slamming Crit% if you want the shurikens?

[serene crane]

because the hit needs to crit

[wary cedar]

you will have plenty of crit anyway

the shuri affix gives crit% too you know?

if you get shuri affix on quiver and bow

you have around 10% as well

[serene crane]

Yea but If you get a lot you can go big YOLO and use Spyglass whatever Primordial amulet

[wary cedar]

isnt wings of discord jsut better tho?

arent there multishot idol affixes?

so wings would be huge

[serene crane]

idk Discord has too much text for me to read

[wary cedar]

it doubles your stats on your idols

but they need to be unique in shape

so only each of 2x2 1x1 1x3 1x2 1x4 3x1

[serene crane]

I think there is a primo relic that does similar thing for prefixes or something like that

[wary cedar]

only 40-60%

and wings always give 100%, so it can't low roll

and wings give crit and dodge

plus super good passive for survivabilty for running echos

[gloomy prawn]

Would mana stacker MM make sense? Detonating arrow has pretty okay scaling with mana consumed, Puncture has %penetration based on max mana

[serene crane]

Well thats some very solid argument right there 🤔 idk about the idols tho, only one relevant to MM I remember is for recurving heartseeker

[wary cedar]

you will be standing still tho

[wary cedar]

meh, in my S2 heartseeker setup i also only had one of these for recurve, and in the setup i mentioned you can have it twice, once on the 1x4 and once on the omen 1x3

[potent rune]

Meh wings of discord is better if you use different shapes if you dont and in most cases you rather have bigger idols or the same relic primordial is busted

[wary cedar]

and with it being doubled you have 4

[gloomy prawn]

what do you mean?

[wary cedar]

i think discord is better, since doubling 2 heartseeker idols makes it 4. so you can sue your other idols to increase diffrent stats like crit multi

[wary cedar]

how will you regenerate mana?

[potent rune]

Well if you are gonna double 1 idol it wont point is to use different shapes

[wary cedar]

you double two

[gloomy prawn]

No idea, just fishing for a build for now. I guess figuring out whether it actually does damage goes first

[potent rune]

Primordial relic basically boost everything all the idols have

[wary cedar]

and wings do it even more?

[potent rune]

For 2 idols

[wary cedar]

no for all

[potent rune]

New altar has so much more possibility is not even close

[wary cedar]

i mean 2 beacuase you take 2 idols for the recurve affixes

and the other idols into crit multi

[potent rune]

Depends of altar I guess

[wary cedar]

my opinion is just more right than yours. okay? 😂

[potent rune]

If I only double 2 idols relic is stronger if I double all my idols then chest is stronger

[wary cedar]

as i said

i double all

2 are just heartseeker specific idols

so you dont need 4 heartseeker idols, since you can just have 2

[potent rune]

Detonating arrow ssucks after all the nerfs it got even the mana stacker one for one shooting uber its dead

[tawny spoke]

yo so can u like clone doppleganger to a different base or something?

[serene crane]

You can put the doppel affix on any base If there is a free prefix slot

[tawny spoke]

how?

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message

[errant pollen]

If I'm running ballista, is there a good way to mass deploy or just spam that button?

[wary cedar]

autoclicker ig?

[tough thunder]

how are u guys getting your altars cause ive run so many and the best pyramid altar i got gives 36% to prefixes

[wary cedar]

how?

i just dont care about it ✨

[tough thunder]

do u have a good one?

[wary cedar]

i just need the right altar and the right amount of omen slots

everything else is bonus, i m not chasing that

[tough thunder]

the omen slots is whats killing me

ohhhh

[wary cedar]

i only need 2, thank god xd

[tough thunder]

i see

[tough thunder]

two extra?

[lapis pumice]

Drop a couple > traversal skill to pack them up with the minions teleport on traversal affix > repeat

[wary cedar]

overall

[tough thunder]

is the traversal coolldown on potion use important?

[lapis pumice]

For ballista ?

[tough thunder]

damn, lucky, i need 4 total for ballista

[tough thunder]

yeah

[lapis pumice]

It's nice qol for sure but not mandatory

[wary cedar]

why do you 'need' them. they have the same affixes as the normal idols that are one tile larger, so if you dont have the omen idols try using the normal ones and switch to omen once you got some that are good

[lapis pumice]

Travel speed is the best stat in the game overall imo

[tough thunder]

well cause rn i have 1lp belt, i probably will get better but in the mean time idk if should slam t7 crit avoidance or t5 traversal cooldown, or wait for t7 traversal cooldwon

[errant pollen]

I remember there being like an explosion trap method of deployment last? Season

[tough thunder]

well so far ive only seen the 2x2s have the cirit multiplier/minion crit multi

[lapis pumice]

Ye u can deploy ballistas through traps

[errant pollen]

Explosive trap not really worth it for just rapid deployment right?

[tough thunder]

if u hold the button that spawns them itll get 6 out pretty fast

[lapis pumice]

Explosive ballista variant is mega mana intensive if you only spam ballista, trap deploy discount them by 50% on top of providing other benefits like enough hits to stack armor shred ect since your ballistas wont shoot much

And u can automate traps with hydra arc primo bow

Main perks of using traps for it

For normal ballista it's just an extra not needed step since you dont want to spam ballista non stop

[errant pollen]

The bow looks cool but not worth it to just deploy the traps

[wary cedar]

just play heartseeker guys

❤️

[lapis pumice]

It's a whole different build than normal ballista yeah

[errant pollen]

I was gonna use heartseeker as my clear/sustain/AA but I cried when I saw I can't have it and birb

[tough thunder]

@wary cedar are u just running omens to get the omen idols? thats the only way right?

[lapis pumice]

But it's viable, all the dudes u see on corruption ladder using ballista + trap are explosive ballista

[wary cedar]

birb is ugly

embrace the bow

[wary cedar]

tell me if you found a different way xd

[errant pollen]

Birb bow build with mini bow turrets

[tough thunder]

lmaoo

[wary cedar]

the birb is ugly

no brib allowed in my crip

[errant pollen]

What if birb was tucan?

[tough thunder]

just gotta crouch 3 times spin 4 times, shoot the sky twice and u get a bunch

[wary cedar]

you are tucan

[errant pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/toucan-smf-yea-yea-bois-bois-gif-22522924

[wary cedar]

i m just happy i switched my planner, i only need 2 omen idols now, instead of 3 times the same

[tough thunder]

for ballista?

[wary cedar]

ewww

no

i m a marksman

sometimes marksfemboy

[tough thunder]

dont lie ur running birb build

[wary cedar]

no

i play heartseeker

[buoyant roost]

which one

[wary cedar]

🥶

[buoyant roost]

reign of winter?

[wary cedar]

yes

[tawny spoke]

im about to switch to ur planner lol

im missing the rings.ammy though

[serene crane]

Rift Beast nodes in weaver tree, run few echoes, buy it from the guy, shouldnt take that long 😄 If you get lucky the Beast can drop it too

[tawny spoke]

i had the ring drop like 3 times and i sold them thinking it was the wrong one lol

[distant pewter]

are there any known bugs with rogue where enemies (possibly just enemies in echoes) become invincible?

[tawny spoke]

this is all i have now

[distant pewter]

it keeps happening to me but ive not been playign rogue this season until today

[wary cedar]

looks good

you dont need more

[serene crane]

something something sometimes less is more something something

[tawny spoke]

what is rift beast nodes in weaver tree?

[serene crane]

There is a search bar on top right

[wary cedar]

you can use the searchbar

[wary cedar]

man

dont tell him

[tawny spoke]

thats gonna take a while to get enough points to get that

[wary cedar]

give a man a fish, and he will be satisfied for a day, teach him how to fish and he will be satisfied for his entire life

[tawny spoke]

u can buy the ring from who?

[serene crane]

@wary cedar also those Folly echoes are still great, I think I started today with like 125k

[wary cedar]

i ma 30k rn

[tawny spoke]

ive never seen a vendor inside the tombs

[wary cedar]

but i just straight up didnt do them the frist two weeks lol

[serene crane]

there is a hunter npc at the start and at the end, he runs the cave with you

its not a tomb 😄

[tawny spoke]

this?

[distant pewter]

I keep getting a bug where enemies become invincible and i cant figure out whats causing it

[serene crane]

This, its the thing from Season 3; Memory Ambers is season 2 thing

[wary cedar]

i hope we get some QoL for the older mechanics

[tawny spoke]

ahhh thats not the ring i was talking about

i was talking about the blue one

but yeah i forgot i need that ring too

[main cape]

Can someone help me connect the dots, the shadowrend build on maxroll uses Abandoned Chitin which set bonus reads "legendary affixes on equipped weavers' will weapons have 50% increased effect" but then uses firestarter torch and traitor's tongue which aren't weaver will weapons?

[serene crane]

well those are random drops... but you can either run set jewelery prophecies (they arent THAT common, but still), Age of Winter for unique/set echo rewards or use Ascendancy runes on rings

[serene crane]

You dont care about the set bonus, you either care about the affix from that ring which mitgate DoT based on your armor; or If you're using Entwined ring (that pretty screenshot above) you get +1 to skillls and bunch of stuff

[tough thunder]

what would u guys say is more important for idols, shared crit multiplier or shred armor effect for ballista

[main cape]

are the uber aberroth ground things DoTs or no?

[serene crane]

Yeah

[wary cedar]

everything is DoT, some DoT is only for 0,1 sec tho

[serene crane]

Yea same... I hope both Weaver and Rift Beast could also get some kind of Uber boss, not exactly at the same lvl as Uberroth, but still

[wary cedar]

i would just be happy if they shake the mechanics a bit

some QoL

like if i do a cementarie echo, just let me spawn right in to the thing, make it a bit bigger and its ok for me

i hate still needing to search it

or make optional cementries on normal echos count as 'finished echo' once you beat them

[flint turret]

I had it couple of times, sadly have no idea about the reason for it. More often than not it's enemies related to omens but I had an immortal roach chasing me through the whole tomb of the erased too, which was unrelated

[serene crane]

Yea the outside is a bit pointless... but it should be mostly some smaller maps 🤔

[wary cedar]

also some map layouts make me crash out

as well as some echo missions

kill three champions

like dude

[serene crane]

"kill enemies until the unique item drops"

[wary cedar]

or until ambush

or complete nemesis

those are goated

[serene crane]

in a bloodwork map layout

[wary cedar]

idk the names of them

[serene crane]

Its that bigger hexagon map with bloody metalic industrial parts... idk, I dont like that one... or the long af tunnel caves

[wary cedar]

they dont appear on my echo mono

git gud

time to dodge uber

[buoyant roost]

you know, uber viable builds are special. they actually exceed by a lot other "normal" builds

[serene crane]

"not every build is something that is uber Aberroth viable" something like that is something some EHG guy said before 1.2 I believe?

[distant pewter]

it's happening every echo for me at this point, were you playing bladestorm at the time?

[buoyant roost]

usually the builds that are uber viable abuse some kind of "uncontrollable" mechanic. or something that scales really really hard. umbral blades on shadow with kismet for example

[flint turret]

No, I didn't use it at all, it was a rend build

I didn't have shurikens either but I did have umbrals

[distant pewter]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4XdOWpd

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 71

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (48) / Falconer (16)

General:

▸ Health: 2,491, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 131.86, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 15%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 18 Dex / 5 Int / 5 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 119% / 98% / 191% / 133% / 68% / 82%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 872
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (304)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (598)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Bladestorm / Shift / Net / Lethal Mirage

[distant pewter]

this is my character atm, just leveled it. Its a meme build but is there any overlap between our builds that could be causing the bug?

[wary cedar]

what meme is it?

uganda knuckle?

[distant pewter]

Harambe

[wary cedar]

🦍

[main cape]

what's the best bladestorm build for uber aberroth?

[flint turret]

The only common thing I can think of is smoke

[serene crane]

Maybe this?
#🔪┃rogue message

[flint turret]

Outside of passives

[flint turret]

Try removing it and see if it changes anything, dunno

Because I also has concealed carnage node which I wasn't using ever

Like you do

It's a long shot but I don't have other ideas really

[hasty fjord]

@serene crane I finally did it...

My first uber abberoth kill!

[serene crane]

ezpz !

What was the kill time for you?

[hasty fjord]

1:20

[serene crane]

Super nice time to farm him

[hasty fjord]

YEEEAHHHHH

[serene crane]

I wish his loot pool would have a bit more items than just gloves and relic...

[hasty fjord]

Yup. A nice void weapon added would be a cool addition.

[ebon python]

Thanks. Just saw this, will look at the tips.\

Do you think the crab ring is worth using or swap for something else

[serene crane]

I also remade the gear, passives and skills into what I think might be better, dont mind the gear its just the ideal stuff to give you some idea, mostly crafted stuff... possibly take Thorn belt instead of this one and on one of the swords you can seal t1 Shattered Lance instead of Jormun (since Jormun 2nd bonus doesnt give you anything with dual swords - would have to use axe)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6Pp7k3a

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 83

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (78) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,642, Regen: 25.94/s
▸ Mana: 135.92, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 56%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 58 Str / 44 Dex / 28 Int / 22 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 122% / 116% / 102% / 83% / 86% / 97% / 128%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 1,082
▸ Dodge Chance: 30% (895)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 58% (3,647)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 72%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 42%

Used skills:

Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Bladestorm / Shadow Cascade

[ebon python]

The main reason I use two swords is for weapons of choice glancing blows

[serene crane]

Crab ring is fine for the early game, but definitely would swap it later

[serene crane]

from the 2 nodes you get 31%, more you can get by enchanting idols or just by attacking since two nodes have 30% chance each to give you 1 Dusk shroud (5% glancing blow)

[ebon python]

True, I notice you don't use puncture in that planner - what'd be good for mana gen?

[serene crane]

I pretty much stopped using Puncture overall... the bleed buff is nice but the duration isnt that long and in higher corruption oneshotting bosses with it wont be so easy 😄

you are getting mana from refunded Shadow Cascade

[ebon python]

ohh ty\

[wary cedar]

rate my drip

[serene crane]

also flat 5 mana by dodging an attack from the Falconer node, its really sweet one

[serene crane]

"I got souls to collect at 5pm and working as a fairy princess at a birthday party at 6pm"

[wary cedar]

the wings just look cool ingame

[ebon python]

I realized I don't have a good way to generate shadows (or I'm missing one). Any tips there?

[serene crane]

Smoke Bomb is easiest there

[ebon python]

Alright, thanks - noticed one of the shadow cascade refund nodes is based on having them

[serene crane]

Yea grab the SMoke bomb ones and see how it goes with mana the bladestorm with shurikens might be a bit hungrier for mana, so if you struggle just drop the Shuriken Storm, its just a nice amount of bleed once all the blades and shurikens start spinning

Right, it might be just better to use Doppelganger relic and helmet with traversal Smoke Bomb, so you get 2 shadows whenever you use Smoke then Smoke starts generating shadows

[hasty fjord]

loool perfect desciption.

[hasty fjord]

This is the tooth fairy that I don't want to see

[wary cedar]

you re just jealous

[shrewd dome]

For those using red ring on shuriken builds, how are you getting to the minimum stat requirement

[wary cedar]

what am i missing?

what does shuriken have to do with red ring req?

[shrewd dome]

The attribute requirement

[wary cedar]

what does shuriken have to do with red ring req?

[shrewd dome]

Cause different builds use different gear lol

So I'm just specifying on shuriken

Like a typical build uses traitors tongue, astral, razor, etc

[wary cedar]

?

as far as my knowledge goes, dexterity is an attribute contributing to the red ring req

[serene crane]

I swear Red Rings are such a bait for that... 😄

[wary cedar]

if you dont want it, dont play red ring

[shrewd dome]

I'm talking about the 180 attribute requirement on red ring

[wary cedar]

so are we

[serene crane]

You have to sacrifice crazy amount of points and affixes to get to 180 points you'll be at the point its not even worth it

[shrewd dome]

Okay that's what I was wondering lol

Ty

[wary cedar]

you could just build vitality instead of hp

[signal heart]

Isn't the ring contributing 25 to his own requirement? So having 2 of them "as basically all builds do" already solves for 50, can't imagine that 130 is that much more difficult

[wary cedar]

damn bro

what rings did you get?

[flint turret]

Most if not all melee builds want to have a siphon ring and there are simply not that many options for gear to stack 180 attrs unless your build double-triple dips on them. Attributes are terrible affixes in terms of general value they provide otherwise

[wary cedar]

mourningfroost would like to have a word

[serene crane]

Thats where you get big value tho... what do you get here? Bladestorms zooming around with cracked af movement speed 😄

[wary cedar]

bladestorm with mourning and dex stacking? 👀

[serene crane]

It would be super cool If you could convert Bladestorm and Shurikens to cold...

[wary cedar]

you dont need to convert them for this

[serene crane]

yea but no conversion = no cool points

[shrewd dome]

anyone kill uber with shuriken bladesatorm here?

[signal heart]

Huh isn't every build using Astral Blood?

[wet bear]

why does "normal" shadow cascade with shift looks a lot more ethical than rend xD

[crimson latch]

hollyyy

[shrewd dome]

whats a good alternative to traitors tongue if I dont really need the +2 skills

[distant pewter]

do you also not need the crit, crit multi and attack speed it gives?

[shrewd dome]

I have it in the off hand, I was just wondering if there was something better for the main hand

[signal heart]

What are good boots for CDR stacking?

[daring blade]

You can always go for the +4 on Velocyn's Jaw, but then you said you don't need that. If you're doing throwing, though, the crit chance and damage you'll get off a dagger is hard to beat.

You could always aim for a really nice exalted dagger.

[shrewd dome]

anyone have a good loot filter for altars? lol

are there some altars that are just not good at the end game?

like the single refracted slot one I'm assuming?

[signal heart]

I havent played around with the altars yet it seems way too random to consider part of the build

[quiet torrent]

has anyone done crit hoa recently?

i have done bleed and frostbite ones few times and have had enough of those so crit could be fun

[shrewd dome]

is nihilis bad for uber abby?

[ebon jungle]

is this any good? dropped as is

[elder condor]

Is there not an umbral falconer recall build guide or?

[shrewd dome]

its good if you use shadow cascade or do melee damage

[quartz gust]

Pretty sure Frogs want that one

You can make any altar setup good with the right mods probably

[quartz gust]

Uhh, why would it be?

If you dodge a lot then probably but not every build will use dodge

[uneven gull]

if anyone else is curious, I decided to test leveraged momentum and dagger dance/ porcupine's wrath:

both the dagger and the melee portion scale with melee attack speed from leveraged momentum
throwing attack speed does not work with dagger dance or porcupine's wrath

[serene crane]

Weird interraction ngl 🤔

[naive saddle]

The best builds usually fly under the radar 😄

[serene crane]

Not really a guide, but you can check this from Misha and check the video description
#🔪┃rogue message

[lethal egret]

Which skill would do more damage as a rapid fire type build? puncture or flurry?

[half nova]

Iirc puncture, only because flurry has meme tier scaling

[serene crane]

I'd bet on Puncture If we take skills as they are...
with Puncture you can take the Penumbral Ambush node for mirages and +15 mana cost and go for shadow dagger nodes; then using Flurry (non-channeled) with high attack speed to get mana back (also with sapping strikes from rogue passives)
or channeled Flurry with the Multishot node and use Puncture to get mana back... it could look pretty fun with the bow/quiver corruption for shurikens

[half nova]

Tbh the only build I think of using flurry with is bladestorm+shurikens or something set and forget + flurry buff

[serene crane]

It could use some nice rework... 😄

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost may I interest you in some lightning ignite Rend?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A14vnXra

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,267, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 122.51, Regen: 9.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 24 Dex / 11 Int / 11 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 115% / 79% / 79% / 61% / 56% / 62% / 67%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 253
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (640)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (609)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 22%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shift

[flint turret]

A bit weird question, why would they? Lowlife is niche

[buoyant roost]

Quite impressive. youre just changing ailments 😄

its probably more powerful than Dancing Strikes for sure. the umbral blades trick is too op

[uneven gull]

I also feel like Astral blood is lower value with how easy it is to abuse ward on shadow creation

[white knoll]

How many doppler chests you guys corrupted till t7 ward on shadow...? Im on like 160+

im tired XD

[serene crane]

I wonder if 40-50% of the 75% crit multi converted to bleed pen would be a good trade for 25% less DoT 🤔

[uneven gull]

why not just add the set affix manually to one? The shadow dmg is not that big of a deal so you can easy seal a t1 of it

[white knoll]

cause I need set item ?

[uneven gull]

if you add the set affix to an item it counts as the set

[serene crane]

also some items around, trying to play with altars and different layouts 😄 stronger than DS for sure, but proooobbaly not stronger than bleed... 😄 gamestyle is same tho, spam Rend for bambilion ward, which procs cascade, shadows leave umbrals and shift recalls them for full mana refill and big igntie stacks

[white knoll]

I totally forgot about this

lmao

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane I would do wing guards for sure. you already have so much pen

[serene crane]

• find t7 ward or shadow (or you can Havoc it, but thats extra FP)
• either with open prefix or gotta gamble remove it => slap t1 Doppel and seal
• free prefix for whatever you need... %dmg for shadows; SD pen; etc

way better than corrupt & pray

[serene crane]

There is still less ignite pen than what Salt can give to bleed pen... but yea, Wing guards could be good aswell or Rule of the Simoon for %fire damage and fire tornados that shred fire res so you can take %fire dmg blessing instead of the shred one

[buoyant roost]

how much did you reach for bleed

wanna try uber?

[serene crane]

iirc 520% bleed chance and like 2740 damage

uber would take quite some time sadly, no 1-2min kills for sure but I can facetank the blast from t4 Julra, pretty much facetank normal Aberroth (just the opening blast would prooobably kill me, didnt try that yet) with like 1min normal Abe kill so thats okay

[flint turret]

That's a really low chance ngl, considering 150 from it from crimsons and like 100+ from passives

[serene crane]

its all unbuffed

I also dipped into shadow daggers from Rend and Cascade so they apply stacks while phys damage aswell so its more like a hybrid than pure bleed

[flint turret]

Wait why you don't have sword thrower in umbrals

And no edge of obscurity either

And no leveraged momentum in casacde

And no flow state and shadow torrent

[serene crane]

What would any of that do for me

[flint turret]

More damage for dots obviously

Unless I'm totally missing your point

[lyric smelt]

how to always stay as LL?

[serene crane]

I might be a bit lost then, but since when does skill hit increase DoT?

[flint turret]

More damage mods apply to dots as well since forever, unless the nodes don't specify "more HIT" damage

Or melee damage or whatever

[tough thunder]

anyone running ballista?

[buoyant roost]

Are you sure on umbral recall he wont get like zillion stacks and die? XD

@serene crane

[serene crane]

Hmmmm, a bit odd but I'll believe you and try it later, I can swap few points around pretty much easily

[flint turret]

A bit odd that's news to you considering your skill choises that make perfect sense for dots because they have easy access to lots of "more" multipliers

And you don't use any of it

[serene crane]

Its like 300-400 stacks, the other build with umbral damage per Shroud might do it 😄

[flint turret]

Also you might remember the lowlife casacde leech problem discussion where doom dot leech from siphon ring was already enough to leech you to full just because casacde boosts doom damage too much by itself

[serene crane]

alright I see it in the LE tools guide now, guess I kinda missed it

[lyric smelt]

guys pls help, how to always stay in LL

[flint turret]

Ezpz x3 dps

[lyric smelt]

my pool keeps filling up

[serene crane]

you probably have some life leech on gear/passives or life on hit

[flint turret]

Don't leech, don't get life on hit/crit/kill/shadow creation

[serene crane]

Would you also think 5/5 in All In with Salt the Wound is a good trade? 🤔 more crit multi=>bleed pen but less %DoT

[lyric smelt]

strange, I dont have any of them

[eager mason]

do you have flow on bladedancer tree

[lyric smelt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AL081pMW

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 83

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (66) / Marksman (6)

General:

▸ Health: 1,255, Regen: 24.62/s
▸ Mana: 151.92, Regen: 12.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 20/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 39 Dex / 7 Int / 7 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 70% / 35% / 46% / 48% / 15% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 251
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (507)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (472)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Dancing Strikes / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Bladestorm

[flint turret]

I don't

[lyric smelt]

ah yeah

when can I use flow

[tough thunder]

is ballista falconer uber abbyable?

[serene crane]

Either not with LL or not during mapping, miiiight be alright during bosses with only 3 points

[serene crane]

Sad... but I already have a crap ton of crit multi, so yeah 😄

[flint turret]

I'd rather convert to ignite just coz of proliferation

[serene crane]

eh, what proliferation? 🤔 ngl I feel a bit braindead... 😄

[flint turret]

Embers primo

[serene crane]

Right, that looks interesting 🤔 would be better with Cinder Strike or converted DS I guess, too bad Rend cant be converted to fire

[flint turret]

Nah just with cascade/umbrals too. You won't get wisp casts but that's okay

Better then using cinder anyway

Ds might be interesting tho because devs said if it's copied by wisp it also copies the skill triggered by that exact Ds strike (like cascade on first) as well

Even tho I haven't checked in-game myself

[serene crane]

I vote for @buoyant roost on a sacred quest of testing that since Ive already sent him on a mission with ignite DS before 😄

[flint turret]

I was just surprised why the damage is so bad that it takes you a min for Abby with decent gear, when dots are particularly strong against bosses

[serene crane]

Yea I was just thinking these nodes dont do anything for the dots applied by the skill, idk... @ebon python I might've been wrong about few nodes

[flint turret]

Explosive sword thrower umbrals from rend cascade alone should do tons of damage even without recall

[serene crane]

The mana from recall is great tho, I dont really have to worry about getting mana from anywhere else

[flint turret]

Makes sense, but 80% more per second on the ground tho

[serene crane]

I'll try after work on normal Abby and see what feels better

[flint turret]

you can try poking @night spruce , we tried to make a few planners for ignite, he should have plenty somewhere

[night spruce]

👀

[serene crane]

CJoe had a great idea with Weaver's Gift, but it would kinda need to be rolled like this crafted Jormun katana... and getting Gift like this is just painful or close to unreal 😄

[buoyant roost]

Problem for Wild Embers is that I use the set ring already

[buoyant roost]

for bleed right? what are you using currently?