#🔪┃rogue

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onyx rivet
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Well i am going to find out, else i need to try fire orb cinder strike

grim island
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Anyone knows?

cobalt mantle
void cargo
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IM graszcy ouyt rly

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fking reset last points whats didi u use lvl 10, fking reset past 2 pointsn what didi u use

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its fking catastraf

wary cedar
grim island
ripe wave
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if multiple hail of arrows overlap, does the damage stack?

elder condor
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Anyone tried shadow Rend blade dancer?

serene crane
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Yea several people here

elder condor
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So I’m seeing the top ones for rogue are shadow cascade and shadow rend, what’s the difference

serene crane
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With Rend you usually just spam Rend => create bunch of shadows => consume them by another Rend => that procs Shadow Cascade and the shadows leave behind Umbral blades that explode, Cascade does a ton of damage while Rend spams shadows which with very high attack speed give you a lot of ward

wraith nacelle
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God dam the new three omen echo is crazy i

serene crane
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That Shadow Cascade one without Rend is where you use Dancing Strikes which give you global damage boost and then you use Sync Strike which spams bunch of shadows that use Shadow Cascade... both have really high damage

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I'd say Rend is easier to gear up, both of the starter gear sets arent hard to get

buoyant roost
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how can we check whether argentus armor actually works (the less damage percent) it never shows in the stats

serene crane
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It only works while you're moving iirc

elder condor
buoyant roost
serene crane
wary cedar
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what's y'all favourite pokemon card?

tawny dagger
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are shadow daggers the only skill that has the melee and throwing attack tag therefore scaling off both?

half nova
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Yes it scales off both

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Only skill maybe

serene crane
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@wary cedar finally found a good bow for the new 1.5 hybrid poison-phys-bleed-cold-fire-void build

wraith nacelle
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Dam the new boss was easier to fight then the three omen window echo to get to him . Just blind first tried him on heart seeker

wary cedar
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what new boss?

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lol

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Is there an omen boss?

serene crane
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Observer

wary cedar
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how do i get him?

serene crane
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through a telescope from far distance

serene crane
fickle cairn
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Am I missing something with falcon fists? Why do so many bladedancer builds run this if they cant benefit?

serene crane
# wary cedar how do i get him?

I think you need to buy the echo from the new npc in the middle for 3 omens and that should drop it? idk, I still need to do it

wary cedar
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but i didnt checked if i got a new echo or something

wraith nacelle
wary cedar
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ah check

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did them all one by one

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like a granny

wraith nacelle
# wary cedar did them all one by one

You can 90% one before popping the other two just to make it a bit easier all three is a ton of mobs and you need to stay kind of centralized to keep all three up at ounce

wary cedar
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i just dont have the confidence in my defense for that lmao

wraith nacelle
wary cedar
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (11) / Marksman (70)

General:

▸ Health: 2,111, Regen: 32.64/s
▸ Mana: 208.74, Regen: 15.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 41/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 115 Dex / 17 Int / 28 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 88% / 147% / 16% / 87% / 123% / 137%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 422
▸ Dodge Chance: 37% (1301)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,369)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 12%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 37%

wary cedar
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thats my current gear

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i want to swap chest plate back to kestrel tho

wraith nacelle
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I’m also REALLY low lp on every thing

wary cedar
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bareyl get good stuff

wraith nacelle
stable anchor
serene crane
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ngl this might be quite amazing aswell

wary cedar
wraith nacelle
wary cedar
wraith nacelle
# wary cedar 300 🥀

Your still in the spot of t3 omen windows though so idols shouldn’t be supper rare and it you fix you phs res you already have better defenses then I do

wary cedar
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ya i ll set up my planer and the loot filter

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@wraith nacelle btw can you waever and then corrupt it?

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havent tried yet

cyan wren
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6s boss dummy with shadow rend cascade.

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Holy tooltip.

wraith nacelle
wary cedar
wraith nacelle
charred junco
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how is rogue leveling? interested in the rend build. any leveling gear i can pre fast pretty easy?

serene crane
charred junco
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as long as its not somehow worse than primalist lvling XD

serene crane
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...I just saw 700 bleed stacks... as non-bleed build... cracked attack speed... omegalul

charred junco
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wtf

serene crane
wary cedar
serene crane
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I wonder what will get nuked tho... ward on shadow creation? umbrals? shadow respawn chance?

serene crane
charred junco
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i can't wait for it to be nerfed the moment i lvl the character to the point just like frog idols

main cape
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any bladestorm rogues who have beat Uber Aberroth able to share their profiles? I'm curious of alternatives to the Razorfall boots, they are so rare and i feel like they don't offer much beyond the +2 which I don't think will even boost my shuriken damage

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sharp ravenBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (30) / Bladedancer (66) / Falconer (17)

General:

▸ Health: 3,170, Regen: 38.88/s
▸ Mana: 231.51, Regen: 12.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 36%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 40 Dex / 18 Int / 25 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 103% / 82% / 82% / 88% / 87% / 75% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 732
▸ Dodge Chance: 23% (789)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,885)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 119%

steady cypress
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wait now not only falconer but bd can do the same uber almost 1-shot things too?

halcyon crane
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umbral blade recall shenanigans lol

half nova
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Was always a thing Falconer scaling is just better and ew making enough umbrals as bd pre-rend

charred junco
upbeat orchid
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I want to try blade dancer but not sure what to try. Do I go bladestorm, shadow rend, or cascade?

ebon python
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I was considering rolling a ballista falconer but feel what I've seen is too glass cannon for me in terms of guides. Would it work okay with some adjustments for medium survivability?

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just got really nice roll from the vendor, nemesis once I get a spare maybe

charred junco
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nemesis trolls me, get nothing good on stuff i need, randomly throw in bee glove coz have nothing

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and i get 2 LP

serene crane
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I bricked 13 Omnis amulets today, dont worry

errant pollen
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Why does the Mirage form buff not show up on my buffs bar?

serene crane
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Did you crit?

errant pollen
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yellow numbers right?

serene crane
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yea

errant pollen
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yeah it only crits with like 5-8 hundo bleed stacks

serene crane
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No idea then 🤔 I think it had a buff icon? Its been some time since I used it :c

elder condor
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idk whether to do dancing strikes rogue or rend shadow cascade. I care about bossing and speed

errant pollen
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so you want fast clear and bossing?

serene crane
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DS proccing cascade anywhere you go or Rend once you get high attack speed is fast and ezpz bossing

errant pollen
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are the nodes in LM for auto casting cascade worth it? the % seems so low

serene crane
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This one? You want as many mirages, so +4 from LM tree, Shadow Eater and +2 from t7 body armor... and low cooldown on LM itself... I was playing it with Black Blade of Chaos and it was a lot spammable + it refunds you plenty of mana, Cascade can also kill stuff to spam more shadows for next hit of LM

errant pollen
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ah that's what it would be for

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I'm not using cascade as my engine, i've got umbral for mana

serene crane
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I was playing both, LM needs a looot of mana because of this, its big damage 😄

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Now with Shift you can even go lowlife for the extra mana refund

errant pollen
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I'm using LM as a force multiplier basically, Stacking bleed with umbral and shift proc'ing cascade, then poping LM to chunk with auto crits

serene crane
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Yea the Mirage Form buff is pretty nice

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it goes kinda nice with Decoy for some extra crit multi

errant pollen
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debating swapping to a second Traitors dagger

charred junco
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i'm try out rend coz of that 1 shot video lol hopefully clear is decent. been playing frog but omen with it feels rough. i did the omen woven and spent like 10 mins running in circles until i finished it, was terrible

errant pollen
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10 minutes of running around sounds like the shitty champion omen window thing

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i hated that shit

charred junco
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the frogs just wasn't strong enough clear to kill the insane spawn

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so they start dying respanwing so i just had to run in circle to stay alive until enough get killed to fill up the bar. then the actual bosses were easy as shit

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its the woen echo one you place down

serene crane
charred junco
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i'm only atl iek 250 lol

errant pollen
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i'm barely scraping 200, but i'm assemblying the pieces still

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took forever to stop blowing up

charred junco
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i'm farming up all the pieces on myf rog build for this bladedancer build

maiden gyro
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kay i have a question

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what in the f does blade storm all scale off?

errant pollen
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look at the tags

maiden gyro
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gonna be real of its only 2 things im gonna be slightly miffed

errant pollen
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base its physical, dex, throwing

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its literally no different than when umbral blades with bladestorm

maiden gyro
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dont use those either really..

serene crane
# errant pollen this is what i've cooked up so far this season https://www.lastepochtools.com/pr...

Mmmmm, its like one leg in bleed and other leg in crits 😄
Either way... Dawnfall in Umbrals doesnt really do anything for you since you dont cast Umbrals yourself; you can get Stabbig Blast and 3/3 piercing behind it
In Shift you can could remove Shadow Recoup that heal is nothing, Emergency Flask too unless you just struggle surviving and 2 points from Elusive and get 1point in Deadly Ambush and 3/3 in Braskula, that damage is big
Shadow Flourish in Cascade is also huge damage
my guess is later on you'll kinda hit a wall between bleed DoT and crits :c

errant pollen
serene crane
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Cooldown reduction for easier life 😄

errant pollen
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its mostly bleed build, the crits are incidental and i don't really have anything spec'd into them

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like i said, i'm putting together gear to swap gloves, chest, helm

serene crane
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Carrions are quite cool

errant pollen
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I tried using Shadow Flourish but I didn't notice it showing up on my buffs bar, but it might be like mirage form where it works just not displayed

serene crane
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Yea it shouldnt be showing there

errant pollen
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so probs pull ranks out of Execution & Careful assault to put into flourish?

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could also swap the 2 points in dismantle to shadow torrent and one point into battle trance just to connect paths

serene crane
errant pollen
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true, that 1 stack could be gotten from a 4th point in dagger dance

serene crane
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You could also check out Salt the Wound gloves instead, with nice crit multi it converts almost half of it into bleed penetration

errant pollen
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is LM considered a channel?

serene crane
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Nope, its a single click

errant pollen
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I thought about Salt the wound when i was going for the set ring using the jormund axe for 20% damage, and the shadows dopliganger set

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does bras hesitation node in shift work if I have Dancing Shadows? like won't it always just proc on the cascade from that?

serene crane
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Doppel relic could be quite cool once you get Black Blade with high rolls (getting good rolls AND LP is absolute hell), t7 cooldown reduction on boots+belt and possibly on gloves and helmet as implicits... you could pick the Shadow nodes in LM, things might get funny 😄

serene crane
errant pollen
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the best way to buff bleed is %physical damage right?

serene crane
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%damage over time/%inc phys damage should be pretty much the same, physical penetration

errant pollen
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oh god bras hesitation isn't worth the damage for this build, it completely kills the ward gen from umbral blades pulling thru swaths of enemies

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i'm hard pressed to get 2k ward per shift compared to the 6-10k I get without it

serene crane
serene crane
tawny spoke
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whats the best rogue build rn

wraith nacelle
tawny spoke
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bladestorm or shadow cascade

topaz schooner
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Did they fix Graveyard Prisons yet

halcyon shale
elder condor
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what did y'all do for leveling?

fossil scroll
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Can some1 kill abberoth for me

void cargo
cyan wren
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Nothing is being "abused" or "exploited".
UB just has insane multipliers on the skill itself, combined with flow and countless other skill multipliers on top.

void cargo
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So it is just the classical too much more damage multiplier in the game. Nothing else? No shadow drop insane amount of umbral or shadow invocation loop or anything like that.

But what are the new multiplier that weren't in game s3 (expect flow but flow "just" double the damage if it were alone it would just take 10s last season to do the same)

half nova
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On top of being a skill you can preplace

cyan wren
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Its like Ice Traps for one shotting Ubers in POE.

void cargo
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I don't know poe.

cyan wren
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U place countless UB on the Boss before he spawns and recall nuke it.

half nova
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And same gimmick but slightly different based on the Falconer build last season

void cargo
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Ok so the "abuse" is the infinite UB you can drop before recalling them with boosted combo.

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Thx 🙏

cyan wren
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its not infinite, blades have limited uptime.
But usually its at least 14 when u recall with 140 dex (easy to achieve)

fickle cairn
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do bladedancers inately summon shadows? I am summoning shadows off dancing blades and cant figure out what from

void cargo
fickle cairn
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pretty OP just cant figure out why its working

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ahh nvm it is the cascade proc. I see

charred junco
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i was farming gear for it got most of it pretty fast but for some reason tabi just like refuse to drop XD

halcyon shale
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Does anyone have a UB Falconer build for farming not bossing?

woeful token
halcyon shale
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I see people playing it but no guides just gameplay and their skills are like all over 20pts

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I was hoping to find a guide for this season since people are still playing it but the profile for the guides are diff setups

woeful token
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I just don't see how UB falconer is a thing anymore
What it used to be in season 2, it's been patched out
Then with the rogue skill changes in season 4...
What is it now... Aerial assault explosive UB spammer?

charred junco
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which rogue skill has the most generic multipler? i'm trying this lvling set up i see scaling kinda ignore from firestarter ignite. kinda want a skill hit a lot and has generic multipler to scale the ignite

lapis pumice
charred junco
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oh the video i was watching said pick a skill with lot of generic scaling so i assume it did

lapis pumice
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If the node doesn't specify hit or melee this kind of stuff it will scale dot

charred junco
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know any rogue skill like that off the top of your head XD?

lapis pumice
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Nope xd

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Gotta read the tooltips 💀

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Or wait an answer, but i'm not near a computer

cyan wren
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There's not a single viable way to scale dots in this game dont even bother.
Tried multiple times with max gear. 0 dps.

lapis pumice
cyan wren
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Just play bladestorm.

charred junco
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honestly putting more effort into this than needed XD but was just grabbing stuff while i was farming for other gear lol. guess just see how far it gets me

topaz schooner
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anyone know how much red ring is on market rn? just dropped one non-cof lol

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nvm it cannot be traded for some reason

half nova
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The only dot build that kind of works was blackhole, bleed and frostbite most of the others are kinda meme or somehow become a dot build with more hit damage than dot damage

lime vine
sage canyon
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If anything it gor buffed with double dmg

wary cedar
lime vine
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300 corr with full resist

wary cedar
lime vine
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reckon its intentional?

wary cedar
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maybe get some more hp

woeful token
sage canyon
topaz schooner
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Is there any reliable way of farming these?

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Do these just drop from omens randomly or can you corrupt a regular one into a omen

wary cedar
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drop only

topaz schooner
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fak. i've had it on my filter since day 1 and i havent seen one

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i assumed it was from the omen boss thing

wary cedar
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no

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just rare

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so better not plan a build with 3 of these lol

topaz schooner
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i mean its just extra DPS not like its mechanically needed

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but it sure is a lot of damage

short goblet
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hey guys with my body pieces i keep getting minion damage does that stact on my falcon or no

wraith nacelle
topaz schooner
topaz schooner
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do you think corruption matters or can i just run them at 300-400 and keep reset farming em

wraith nacelle
topaz schooner
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i'll imprint it and check it out appreciate it

wraith nacelle
soft mauve
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any way to use Dancing Strikes with a 2Handed weapon?

zenith rivet
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as far as i know the skill requires dual wield to be used

wary cedar
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i beat lagoon 15 times now

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still now cold dmg blessing

zenith rivet
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same thing happened to me but with the Crit Multi blessing from Rayleth

wary cedar
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and now i am out of temproal keystones

zenith rivet
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i got it on the 1 kill i did in normal mono and never again

wary cedar
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what a great system

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having so much fun here

zenith rivet
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you need to play the game more!

wary cedar
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that makes no sense

zenith rivet
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i know

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but thats the thing with rng systems

glad tangle
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Just want to share my shuriken build now, its fun to use.

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im in 400c, can clear everything very fast, can stun boss easily, they can't move and skip phase

wary cedar
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ruined

serene crane
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hello darkness my old friend...

serene crane
wary cedar
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random ignite chance but i ll take that

serene crane
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Doesnt Troka or whatever quiver convert it to frostbite? Cold/forstbite shurikens would've been interesting...

wary cedar
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Troka ain't doin shit

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i m not even using it

serene crane
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Its really lame there still arent any set bow/quiver with all the new sets being pretty damn good

wary cedar
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or maybe some armor set for bows n stuff

ebon python
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I find the life on hit from the flow node is messing with architects of astral blood's ward gen - any options that don't require removing the node?

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Windmill ballet bladedancer is what I'm doing

wary cedar
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remove the node

ebon python
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I mean it's an option - it's just nice dps

wary cedar
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you can't have 0hp build + hp sustain at the same time

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gotta chose one

serene crane
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"life on hit" is something you cant turn off unless I forgot about some item... "life leech" tho you can turn off with at least 2 uniques

ebon python
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True, was just hoping there was some trick to counter it

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cloaked reaper is also an issue I think

serene crane
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lol absolutely

ebon python
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Thanks, just going to change some nodes

serene crane
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Flow is only 6 life on hit... Reaper is like morbilion heals

ebon python
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Do you think flow alone would cause a ton of issues

serene crane
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Ive never tried lowlife with that so idk, but surely more managable than Reaper, I think somebody was talking about still staying on lowlife with it not a long time ago 🤔

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Just drop reaper and try it on training dummies

ebon python
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Not as bad but still a ton of life on hit while clearing

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Think I need to drop flow, shame because it's a ton of dmg

deft wadi
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i had to unspec flow when i switched to architects

ebon python
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What did you replace it with for dmg if anything

deft wadi
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i swapped my entire build when i got architect

ebon python
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Ah, so not windmill ballet anymore?

deft wadi
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yea i switched to a shadow rend cascade build

ebon python
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Ah. Maybe I'll go life based and see how it goes as far as my current build goes, because I like it. Thanks.

deft wadi
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was just leveling with dancing strikes until i had mana

ashen rampart
deft wadi
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im only at 300c rn

ashen rampart
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as now i am playing shadow cascade with dancing strikes / sincronised

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but i would like something more flowy

deft wadi
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im doing an elemental crit build with kuzons and lightning shadow rend

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ill send the planner when i get online in a little bit

serene crane
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If you remember your account name and character's name, you can drop those here and people can import them in the planner

deft wadi
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it feels very nice so far once u get into the rhythm

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ah ok

deft wadi
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the shadow rend isnt converted yet bc i dont have a relic to replace dopplegangers with and i need at least 2 more points

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my gf made me go to bed before i could finish 😔

ashen rampart
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hmm can you send a clip on how it plays when you come online ?

deft wadi
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i can

ashen rampart
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can someone check out my build and tell me what to improve first? i know that i get shattered world it would boost my build soooo much, but i am still not able to clear it and i cannot find someone who can help me kill it

shadow ember
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where can i find it? it is not listed under shadow rend...

serene crane
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I wonder, how much does your ES go whenever you pick up Mountain shrine with Astral Blood? omegalul

daring trench
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errm what do you guys reccomend I do to this?

serene crane
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Havoc t7 into suffix, Redemption and hope for t7 hybrid/cooldown?

wary cedar
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i mean depends on build

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so whatver

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you can also sell it to a merchant for some gold

daring trench
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i was just following the maxroll shadow cascade build

serene crane
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but yea swap str into dex through one of the woven echoes is a nice idea, I think it only costs 1FP and wont reduce it to 0?

wary cedar
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@serene crane bend me over and call me your minor idol

serene crane
wary cedar
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i will tell no one

serene crane
ashen rampart
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wanna try to be faster, it will help me with the flow of the build

deft wadi
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i switched a few points around to get the lightning conv

ashen rampart
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man it looks cool

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it is very similar to my build, but you use shadow rend instead of dancing strikes

deft wadi
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i liked dancing strikes but shadow rend is cooler (im a weeb)

ashen rampart
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well i want something that can continue the flow of the build

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so imma try to use shadow rend as a movement skill

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and proccing shadow cascade and look how that feels

charred junco
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is the weaver tree node to make everything spawn in a chain good? Coz after taking it almost never see any of the special chains anymore

serene crane
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I run it, see them often enough

wary cedar
deft wadi
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wdym

wary cedar
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do you really play like this?

deft wadi
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yea?

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still dont get what the question is about

strong yoke
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why does it say to use the slow node on bladestorm. Feels like a waste of poins since enemies die to fast or they dont move either way

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blade frenzy on the left seems stronger or even more area from longsword slash

serene crane
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Just the slow I guess since there is no more damage per unique ailment like some skills have

strong yoke
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the extra throwing dmg here seems better for shurican dmg or not

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i gues i try it out

wary cedar
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@strong yoke zeig mal den Planner den du verfolgst

serene crane
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@buoyant roost guess what

buoyant roost
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oh ruby fang corrupted? 😄

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I think I will just prophecy farm the jormund set and corrupt it 😄

serene crane
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this is crap base, but it rolled quite nice affixes... expect the champ one that kinda turns the entire thing into ignite 😄 soooo could definitely do ignite rend 😄

buoyant roost
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but in general bleed is better for rogue, simply because of the passives

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and also uniques are stilll better for bleed I think

serene crane
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Ruby also makes enough poisons stacks to max out bleed bonus for Deadly Mixture node... or just extra bleed chance If you'd run with carrion gloves, but either +1 shadow gloves are way better or Salt, that pen is big

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Yea, ignite and even poison need some more stuff :c

buoyant roost
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poison is till worst out of all ailments I think

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what do you say about my amulet 🙁

serene crane
buoyant roost
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exactly 🙁 and base sucks. but currently my best 😄

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btw im trying to figure out that bladestorm explosion thing

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there's so little way to get mana back on rogue

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I think the best way is to get a tier 8 mana regen on belt

wary cedar
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you guys ever played terraria?

serene crane
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Umbrals is possible with 2x T7 -5; -1 from BD and a stack from Mountain boots; Shurikens should be easy enough

buoyant roost
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on falconer, aerial assault has 9% mana return. bnut you need a lot of mana to be effective

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OMG finally got a weaver will I want..... prayge t7

serene crane
serene crane
wary cedar
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after you re done with the LE season of course lol

serene crane
serene crane
# wary cedar tell me

I play FF14 on the side since LE s4 came out, the story there takes god damn long time
GRIME 2 came out recently
I wanted to play another playthrough of Bloodlines 1; also to replay Bloodlines 2 as much as crappy that game is + expansions this year
VTM novela games
and I was gifted entire set of Mass Effect games...
also new PoE2 season to check out whenver it comes out

wary cedar
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i dont know any of these games lmao

serene crane
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phew
good so you dont know I made them up omegalul

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jk

wary cedar
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if hear of ff14 but i dont know what you do there

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and i know poe2 but that game is trash

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that's it

serene crane
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It needs a loooot of work to be at some good level

wary cedar
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i refunded it bc of terrible optimization

lapis pumice
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Poe 2 content is ok now, it's a nice bridge between LE & poe1 system density wise imo, i did that path

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If you crave for more arpgs

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Ghostlore is another one i enjoyed much, albeit a bit pricey for the content it offers imo (trying to not off topic too much xd)

serene crane
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Its ofc giga far from PoE1, but Im not one of those people that were expecting entire PoE1 reskinned in a new game... it'll take time and lot of work... also half of the weapons and classes are still missing, story not finished, more league mechanics to come... and hopefully some actually good crafting

lapis pumice
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Campaign is also a pain if you come from le/poe1 xd

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It's sooooo long

serene crane
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Yea but I kinda enjoyed it, a little break from the endless mapping... 😄

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Aaaaand I bricked another Omnis in Nemesis... I need some good Shade/Omnis farm 😄

upper vale
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Hey people, any version of the Bladestorm+Shuriken to recommend?

buoyant roost
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erm. I enjoy mine 😄

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (33) / Bladedancer (66) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,941, Regen: 33.58/s
▸ Mana: 113.99, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 14/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 33 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 40% / 63% / 40% / 65% / 63% / 27% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 1,076
▸ Dodge Chance: 31% (0)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,066)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 91%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 106%

minor locust
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Made all sorts of stupid builds

flat falcon
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Going to start the season, finally. What are the differences between the Shadow Rend and Shadow Cascade builds?

minor locust
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You basically just move while spamming rend

flat falcon
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Are they similar in terms of clear, tankiness, etc?

deft wadi
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shadow rend has felt better than self casting cascade or using dancing strikes

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theyre pretty similar but shadow rend is nice for a bit of range

shrewd dome
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Anyone kill Uber abberoth with dancing strike shuriken build?

serene crane
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classic

dull sequoia
serene crane
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@wary cedar lowlife Kestrel online!

serene crane
clever basalt
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Bro, how rare is traitor's tongue ? I started collecting them after I rolled 50 ascendancy runes, that's over a hundred daggers without ever seeing one lmao

shrewd dome
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why is strand of souls good for shuriken dancing strike?

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the ward retention?

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asking cause I have a 2LP thorn slinger thats pretty good

serene crane
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It gives you big ward and keeps the ward up while clearing by killing enemies, very nice thing to have

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Chains of Uleros is also great

shrewd dome
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so replace my 2LP thorns?

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which one is better for killing uber lol

serene crane
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Thorns for bossing If you need the +1, Strands will just make you tankier... not really against his 1shots, but still 😄

clever basalt
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I JUST HAD TO COMPLAIN

serene crane
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ez turtle into 2LP kappa

charred junco
verbal crag
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I want to get health on here. I guess rune of removal is the only play?

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Ideal would be dual health (or another useful suffix) + dex + damage w/sword

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For slamming*

serene crane
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Pretty much anything is hit & pray

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Chaos the t4 and pray
Removal and pray it hits t4
Redemption into hitting t7 dex and t7 %sword is double pray

verbal crag
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It'd go onto a 3LP peak of the mountain. I think it's doubtful I'll hit something worth slamming even with the 2T7

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But I guess otherwise it'll just rot in my stash

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So might as well try

upper vale
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Could try to seal that regen

serene crane
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Havoc to swap t4 into suffix, then chaos it into dex, then havoc into 2x t7 prefixes again... all is random and probably low chance

verbal crag
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Not terribly high fp either

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If it goes anything like my last attempt, I'll get lucky on everything except fp for havoc 🙂

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Thanks for the advice both of you!

serene crane
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Sealing the t4 has about the same chance as trying to remove it 😄

verbal crag
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1 successful suffix removal!

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I realized if I can't remove both then it's probably not worth the slam

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So now 33% chance of success for removal or 13.5% chance of seal. But seal has lesser downside

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So seal it is

serene crane
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Well, If you manage to remove the t5, then you'll have to fill it with whatever you want in suffixes, hit Havoc to move t7 from what you dont want, seal t1 of what you dont want, havoc both t7 into prefixes again and pump suffixes to t5

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Thats my guess, idk If there is any other solution, Im not the best at this either Gregory

verbal crag
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Oh yeah good point

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I removed the t5

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I should probably now add a t1 and havoc around

serene crane
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A lot of steps, so gotta get lucky with FP too so make sure whatever you can do has Hope 😄

verbal crag
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Yess

shrewd dome
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how do you guys crit cap for shuriken dancing strike? my throwing crit is at 63% but I have helm of the mountain and tongue in off hand

serene crane
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slammed crit chance/%chance on one of the weapons maybe?

shrewd dome
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okay

serene crane
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amulet can have one too, but flat throw is also great there

shrewd dome
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yeah I put flat throw on my nihilis ammy lol

serene crane
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Whats in your main hand? 😄

shrewd dome
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2x tongues

serene crane
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t7 flat crit is 9-10%, that might do a lot 😄

serene crane
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well, not the worst I guess

shrewd dome
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is 2x tongue not the strongest setup?

serene crane
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In main hand its fine If you get it slammed and +2, idk If strongest but very good for sure 😄

woeful mason
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what do you guys think of the feel of bladedancer this season?

serene crane
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A lot of viable builds, not everything viable for uber, some super strong interractions, it feels great

storm lantern
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Finally found a decent dagger to slam this 4LP

charred junco
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damn

topaz schooner
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LE has easily the worst optimization of any ARPG I've ever played

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one cast of smoke bomb + rend can cut fps in half 😭

topaz schooner
storm lantern
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indeed

topaz schooner
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ye nice

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very very nice

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i need an lp3 so i can get more attack speed on cascade

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i keep failing damn 1 in 3

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on lp2

topaz schooner
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Ideally you'd start with lower tiers before the havoc

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unless that dropped natural from nemesis which is pretty lucky

verbal crag
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It was nemesis

topaz schooner
topaz schooner
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i wish you could still imprint double exalted.. its such a grind to get 7/7 bases

verbal crag
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You can't imprint double exalted?

verbal crag
topaz schooner
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they nerfed it in s4

verbal crag
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Righto

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But still can right? just nerfed

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Out of havocs.

topaz schooner
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dont think it drops double exalted anymore, or hasnt for me

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i guess you can but ngl feels like 10x rarer

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i wish there was an icon on drops that came from imprint instead of having to test with a friend to see if you can send it

verbal crag
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Ya

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I was looking forward to a sweet, sweet 3LP peak too

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Thanks for the advice by the way

topaz schooner
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nice you got the removal

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salvagable

verbal crag
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Yep!

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It's just a race against FP, which I'll very likely lose

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But might as well try

topaz schooner
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yeah its a 1 in 11 to get t7 health t7 increased damage so it is gonna be hard to hit with 15fp

stable anchor
crimson latch
serene crane
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Damns thats wild

verbal crag
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Imprint drop was so close

dusky current
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on the max roll build guide for the shadow rend would the red ring be better than the abandoned chitin?

main cape
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So I corrupted one of my idols and got a bee summoning mod, i think i wish it was ruined instead the noise is so annoying lol

verbal crag
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Sealed the regen

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Final result. Shame I couldn't squeeze a creation rune in, but I'm super lucky I got this far

unique umbra
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for shadow cascade do i want flat melee + melee attack speed or is it better to have %phys/crit multi/or phys pen?

serene crane
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I'd say crit multi

main cape
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is there anyway to force stay with dancing strikes?

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finding uber aberroth not worth the headache without speccing out of it

upper vale
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put the cursor on top of your character

dusky current
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on the max roll build guide for the shadow rend would the red ring be better than the abandoned chitin?

serene crane
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No

serene crane
# dusky current on the max roll build guide for the shadow rend would the red ring be better tha...

Its not like Red Ring would be bad, but here its just not good... you wont reach 180 total atributes with that build unless you sacrifice other affixes on the gear for the 10% DR which would either be huge dps loss or I'd say even bigger survivability loss... so you can look at Red Ring as a fancy thing that would only give you all resists, which you should have pretty much covered included everything else on the Red Ring

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Crafted Weaver ring will auto-complete set with Entwined ring while giving you more damage aswell

verbal crag
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Not really BiS lineup anyway

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Annnd it's gone. RIP corruption deleted legendary affixes

dire pawn
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does anyone have a fix for ballista and omen encounters

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cause im getting cooked

cyan wren
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Play Ballista HC version.

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Zhp you just skip omen.

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Or do low corruption (you still die).

dire pawn
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how much dps loss is the hardcore version

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i wanna do the omens bro wth

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dont wanna skip

cyan wren
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Looks like huge dps lost since u gotta drop the boots but Ballista doing more than enough dmg.

tawny spoke
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bladestorm or shadow cascade?

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whats the best rogue build rn

wise umbra
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How does elemental arrow interact with trap sprinkler from marksman, assuming you're using bow for explosive trap?

Do the followup traps count as part of the original trap for purposes of elemental arrow?

serene crane
eager mason
serene crane
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Of course it has min rolls... omegalul

eager mason
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need to farm 2lp and corrupt it to reroll this one

potent rune
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Its Okey it can be saved

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Only good thing about this corr league

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Your ultra rare gear can be cheesed for rerolls

lime thorn
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W corruption

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the highs are worth the bricks

buoyant roost
# eager mason lol

jesus man. I never seen LP2, yet LP3 there it is :D. Now get some 3xT7s and corrupt. Sweaty balls incoming

serene crane
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@buoyant roost yo check this one 😄

buoyant roost
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that crit multi good for Salt

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now corrupt 😄

serene crane
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Yea I had a solid one with t7 attack speed and 7% from Ruby, but... I had a little accident I wont talk about 😄

buoyant roost
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First this season 😄

serene crane
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Time for some big crafts 😄

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@cyan wren sir I might need to ask you to colaborate with your bleed rogue research

buoyant roost
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What'sy our current setup @serene crane share

serene crane
# buoyant roost What'sy our current setup <@152095154835161089> share

Almost half of the gear are leftovers from my other SD Rend build 😄

  • I need better sword with t7 attack speed/t7 crit multi/bleed chance/phys pen and sealed Jormun
  • body with t7 ward on shadow creation/%chance to bleed per sword and sealed Doppel idealy on Wyrmhide base for extra %dot
  • pretty much same axe but with t7 speed, phys pen in suffix and sealed Ruby
  • same relic but Ruby base for bleed chance
  • 2LP with t7 speed and %dot
  • t7 crit multi on Omnis
  • entirely enchant Huge idols, still looking for some combinations but this gave me some huge bleed damage boost 😄
  • still missing few levels, which I probably grab a bit from Concentration and see how it goes... or just small bleed chance from BD and parry
  • phys shred blessing is what Im still missing
    https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olV7weyG
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (81) / Marksman (1) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,638, Regen: 19.16/s
▸ Mana: 267.48, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 28 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 191% / 99% / 117% / 96% / 115% / 96% / 108%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 328
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (348)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,019)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 10%

serene crane
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then ofc there is corruption that adds crit multi and extra damage to frozen enemies, but... I dont even count on getting that 😄

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so far Ive tried Aberroth once and pretty much facetanked him with like, idk, 1min30s kill? so its kinda alright 😄

topaz schooner
topaz schooner
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for the melee part

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i think it does?

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but icr

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i know you can add throwing tag and scale the melee AOE

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but idk about flat

serene crane
topaz schooner
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Oh does it

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fak so all my % melee damage is null?

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lol dammit

serene crane
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Its my rough noobie guess so, I didnt test that myself :c

topaz schooner
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did they remove dummy damage variance?

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i thought they did

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but i'm getting crazy variance

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and idk why

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i'm not creating shadows so its not that but i'm just getting some 20-30% variance when testing on a dummy

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so its still impossible to test upgrades

serene crane
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Yea the numbers are kinda all over the place...

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I messure it how fast the same boss at X corruption dies omegalul

topaz schooner
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wait does melee attack speed not scale cascade if you get rid of the melee tag...

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wait nvm its coming from rend

serene crane
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By logic If you pick the throw node, it should swap from melee to throw, including scaling from melee attack speed to throw attack speed... but game might be potato and not work by this 😄

buoyant roost
serene crane
buoyant roost
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how does Cascade gets triggered?

serene crane
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Rend, 9-13k ward => proccing Cascade, shadows leaving Umbrals => shift to recall Umbrals to massive bleed stacks

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Shadow Massacre from Rend

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you use Rend and it eats your existing shadows, each consuming 5 mana to use cascade/multishot (if you'd have bow instead)

buoyant roost
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Ah. Okay. havent played that node yet. So spam rend, shadows cast cascade, on expire cast umbral

cyan wren
serene crane
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Umbrals are left on the ground from expired shadows and you activate them by Shift to fly at nearby enemies

serene crane
cyan wren
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Just try it on dummy if you want to test a build DPS?

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if you hit a boss dummy and its hp is barely moving then its bad.

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Thats what happens if you try to full Poison/Bleed

serene crane
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Thats like saying every build that doesnt burst Uberroth in 10seconds is bad

cyan wren
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Well if u cant make boss dummy go to 0 in at least 3 minutes then yes you have no dmg to kill any uber.

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3 minutes is very generous.

serene crane
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Well and what build with that gear did you try?

cyan wren
sharp ravenBOT
#
Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,651, Regen: 182.16/s
▸ Mana: 180.51, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 60%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 234 Dex / 30 Int / 40 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 67% / 74% / 69% / 56% / 41% / 76% / 191%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,087
▸ Dodge Chance: 67% (3276)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,873)
▸ Block Chance: 100%, Mitigation: 52% (2,248)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 37%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

buoyant roost
serene crane
cyan wren
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bleed and poison dots is how many times can u hit in shortest time.

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stacking bees is one of the best options to do that.

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If this do 0 dps then idk what else.

serene crane
serene crane
buoyant roost
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what I'm thinking... since you have the weavers set in your combo, what about some good rolled Weaver's gift

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You get pen, and you can get like a t7 physical damage or bleed damage, which is 50% more ffective

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imagine weavers gift t7 physical damage, t7 chance to poison or bleed

serene crane
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you'd want t7 attack speed, crit multi, bleed chance and phys pen

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What is also worth trying out to get Carrion gloves and instead of crit multi you can get more %dot on things

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but its pretty big bleed pen loss, so idk... hard to say 😄 I got few 2LPs around tho, so I might try it out 😄

cyan wren
serene crane
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Im not expecting DoTs here to have some same scaling to the sky like SD/Rend/Cascade stuff

cyan wren
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the gloves being main enabler.

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Had like 1000+ poison stacks and still no dmg.

topaz schooner
serene crane
topaz schooner
serene crane
topaz schooner
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damn

serene crane
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but 2x t5 would've been just fine, for SD I just have 2x T7 SD pen and here I could get %bleed chance per sword

topaz schooner
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i finally corrupted one to max. took forever

serene crane
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on the SD build I even have it only on body because on helmet I had to get t5 doppel affix for the Dusk stacks omegalul so Im usually at like 5-7k

topaz schooner
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idk how the hell you get omen versions of that

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theyre so rare

serene crane
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Yea its way easier to get SD pen with ward on shift

topaz schooner
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did they fix this yet

buoyant roost
serene crane
topaz schooner
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Gravyard prisons is STILL bugged. I cannot

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there's a certain layout where the mages just dont spawn

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checked every single corner

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smdh

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dammit

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I got a couple to spawn but no joke it was like 1 in 8 lmfao

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i think i narrowed it down to which layouts cannot spawn them, probably that specific tile having problems

buoyant roost
topaz schooner
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it also seems to spawn way less cocoons actually

topaz schooner
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i havent played it yet tho, i want to eventually

serene crane
topaz schooner
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one thing I really want to test is how fast it can clear with like 100+ dex + shifting into it + duration stacking for BS

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also curious if you convert dex does it still scale the movement speed

serene crane
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Yea it still works as usual dexterity for skills it just wont give you the dodge bonus you usually get from dex

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I had Hurricane with like 65 or so dex and its pretty funny 😄

topaz schooner
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thats awesome

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have you tried momentum yet olvrin

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its hilarious

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you don't realize how fast its moving until you realize it has a 1 second max duration

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but it zooms

serene crane
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Nah I didnt, I was playing with traversal Smoke so no Shift for me... 😄

topaz schooner
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Ah fair

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the new movement on smoke is kinda bonkers

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until you have to go south..

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x)

serene crane
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If I get to it I'd like to see how Slagstorm and Blade Frenzy feel like

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You can make some reeeaaaally huge Bladestorms 😄

pearl forge
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i have 158 rn

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although well it is guile thx to new neck but oh boi that one does it nuke defenses using brutal+guile

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all scalings still work

topaz schooner
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can you post a clip of the speed and clear LOL

topaz schooner
pearl forge
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i use them for utility so i dont have points for that

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want bleed and armor sunder etc

topaz schooner
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yeah true

serene crane
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What could be really cool for Bladestorm if there was a node/item that turns the Bladestorm into a permanent minion with perhaps reduced bonuses from affixes to minions; they would essentially be immortal but still could be destroeyed by you If you'd specc into Blade Detonation and had X seconds respawn timer

pearl forge
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but you can check my stream im at work rn yesterday i was farming up to aberroth

serene crane
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@buoyant roost I guess corrupting is just that easy omegalul

pearl forge
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just hit

wary cedar
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Leck meine Eier

buoyant roost
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that meelee +10 cold though. overpowered

serene crane
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it
just
works

wary cedar
serene crane
wary cedar
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lmao

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just to get something good to flex it on you and then continue to never use it

serene crane
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Not using what I get is like 99.9999% of my stash

wary cedar
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or just collecting some rare lp3-4

buoyant roost
buoyant roost
serene crane
wary cedar
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but as soon as i saw that they have a upper limit i dropped all my ambitions doing something with that

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margit would approve

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"put your foolish ambitions to rest"

serene crane
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"Graceless Traveler. What is thy business with these corruptions?"
"Ahh. Lagoon the Noodle, the twin prodigies, Hatred and Pride, General Argentus, Praetor Rahyeh, Lightning Princess Liath. Wilful losers, all!"
"Thy kind are all of a piece: Pillagers, emboldened by the flame of ambition"
"Have it writ upon thy meagre grave: Felled by Congealed Sludge, Last of All sludges!"

wary cedar
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ain't reading all that shit

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sry

serene crane
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aight FrightenedGroleWrongDirection

wary cedar
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can you give me tl:dr?

buoyant roost
serene crane
wary cedar
serene crane
wary cedar
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how come i have more low rolled reign of winters than high rolled reign of winters?

serene crane
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Just turtle them into 4LP, slam with 4x max rolled t7s and slam corruption into max rolls

serene crane
wary cedar
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what do you even want on this ring?

lapis pumice
bold lagoon
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Question about synchronized strikes: how does the increase to max shadows work? I can’t quite parse the skill description. Does it not stack with the blade dancer class bonus?

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Okay, I guess I get it. It gives you four shadows regardless of your max, but won’t let you bypass the max.

buoyant roost
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I hate rerolling prophecies 🙁 at least they couldve added like a shorctu button on kebyboard

buoyant roost
wary cedar
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i think i just got my first ever random red ring drop

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random in terms of no prophecies or imprints

buoyant roost
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i still need to get first mine outside of nemesis tower 😄

wary cedar
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i got a few already

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but only one with LP

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and the corrption on this wasnt that good

buoyant roost
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erm... I mean given what you can get

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i think its pretty decent

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I get like T1 shit all the time 🙁

wary cedar
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that gives me literally 0 stats

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worse than any T1 res

buoyant roost
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I see. but you can use it on some other char, worst case

wary cedar
serene crane
#

The multishot dream will never die

buoyant roost
#

Is Architects of the Astral Blood really enough to keep your ward?

rugged hinge
# wary cedar

I had throwing attack and -mana t7 corrupted t7 strength

serene crane
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@buoyant roost hah, almost there 😄

wary cedar
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is this tuff?

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random chance for DoT again lol

serene crane
#

a lot of icicles

wary cedar
#

poopcicle when?

serene crane
#

EHG needs to steal those poop pants from Grim Dawn

wary cedar
sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (71) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,113, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 203, Regen: 15.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 113 Dex / 13 Int / 23 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 106% / 111% / 126% / -22% / 76% / 113% / 100%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 423
▸ Dodge Chance: 51% (1968)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (775)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 19%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 45%

wary cedar
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what corr can i play with this? 😭

serene crane
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Wouldnt Entry Points in Shuriken be more damage? I see Troaka only converts it for Puncture

wary cedar
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Entry Points?

serene crane
wary cedar
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i can tri

buoyant roost
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And now I have to play bleed Hail of arrows lol

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this is an insane bow for that build

wary cedar
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ah yes

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the circle of life

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get 3lp gloves - slam - miss one exalted affix - corrupt - removes all affixes

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new circle of life

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gimme a minute

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what even is increased healing effectisniss

serene crane
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idk, sounds lame

wary cedar
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this looks so cooked

serene crane
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That phys resist looks painful every single time 😄

wary cedar
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cold res is reduced as well

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wouldnt seem so from my current stats there xd

buoyant roost
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that's from boots?

wary cedar
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yes

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the elusive cold dmg bonus

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after 30 lagoons

serene crane
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Huge damage

wary cedar
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tooltip still smol

serene crane
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How big should it be? 🤔

wary cedar
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at least a 100k

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bare minimum

buoyant roost
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but tooltips could be misleading no

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I think the only real test is how fast you kill things 😄 like bosses

wary cedar
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and buffs only comes from passive nodes/uniques

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so these buffs are somewhat the same all the time you know

grave gale
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Been playing bladestorm with chakram for low corruption empowereds cause the clear feels better but how much more sjngle target is blade shield?

buoyant roost
wary cedar
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like of course i do more dmg overall

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but the tooltip is the baseline dmg

serene crane
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Alright, I saw a bit over 2100 bleed stacks on Heorot

wary cedar
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6% cold res looks so sad

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just because i run out of FP

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FP sucks btw

serene crane
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It do be like that...

wary cedar
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i only wanted to add two T5 stats

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only manages for T5/T1

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thats crazy

lyric smelt
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playing shuriken + bladestorm, just got fire cascade set, should I swap to fire cascade?

buoyant roost
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make a new char

lyric smelt
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running normal mono btw

buoyant roost
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its a different build

lyric smelt
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yeah ik

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bladestorm anw

buoyant roost
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@serene crane https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVaPZndX

the damage is decent tbh. But survivability = shit 😄 Not so big mana issues after all. Foot of the mountain is not needed, I'm just testing. But I dont know how to survive. I cna put hp on armor/boots, but I dont think its enough

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Falconer (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,089, Regen: 11.94/s
▸ Mana: 187.37, Regen: 16.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 6/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 46 Dex / 17 Int / 17 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 16% / 109% / 16% / 98% / 28% / 27% / 22%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 69%, Threshold: 381
▸ Dodge Chance: 34% (967)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (395)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 21% (197)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 20%

serene crane
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could get Nomad ring with t7 throw, 2LP isnt crazy rare

buoyant roost
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Yes thats one that I was thinking. I need more hp as well

serene crane
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also try to get Blind on hit on the sword

buoyant roost
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oh what will happen if i corrupt it

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will it behave like set item corrupting, or normal hmm

serene crane
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unless it transforms into completly different item then it still the same set

buoyant roost
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thats what im afraid xD

serene crane
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You can always shatter those items unless they remain the same set as before or get Ruined

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then just find t7 sword with either free prefix or Remove/Seal it and put Jormun affix there, ezpz

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Almost t7, would be some nice

main cape
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does bladestorm/shurikens have more single target DPS than running dancing strikes with bladestorm/shuriken?

buoyant roost
buoyant roost
buoyant roost
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well the umbral one is the most DPS one

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afaik

main cape
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no i was looking at basically the maxroll one vs Trikster

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i wasn't aware of the umbral one

buoyant roost
tribal burrow
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Does this prophecy even work to get Traitor's Tongue? Does it HAVE to be in the dragon monolith?

buoyant roost
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@main cape can you link

main cape
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yea one min

buoyant roost
tribal burrow
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What would be "good"?

buoyant roost
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well the trick i use is to avoid those monolith quests.

main cape
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@buoyant roost this is my current build:

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGzbM13d

I think I'm not good enough to deal with Dancing Strikes hopping around on uber aberroth so i was looking to switch and hoping to maximize single target DPS without needing more gear

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (69) / Marksman (12) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,893, Regen: 19.72/s
▸ Mana: 157.5, Regen: 12.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 110%, Regen: 99/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 25 Dex / 20 Int / 9 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 84% / 93% / 92% / 122% / 75% / 95%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 579
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (431)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,094)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 140%

tribal burrow
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What would be the best way to get those daggers then? I don't have a single one yet

serene crane
buoyant roost
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and then for the 3rd put the item you want to search.

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this will avoid the dungones, arenas and monolith events

tribal burrow
# buoyant roost

I think you linked the wrong one here, but I get what you mean! Thanks, will do ^^

serene crane
tribal burrow
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Reduced chance to have events that are NOT monolith?

buoyant roost
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yes

tribal burrow
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That makes them monolith, no?

buoyant roost
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this will give you only events to kill nemesis, omens, mages, champions, bosses, and some stupid ones like big medusas and those fire golems whatever hte name is

serene crane
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Get all the purple lenses that isnt the exalted weapon one

tribal burrow
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I'm sorry for not understanding, you're saying to avoid monolith prophecies, but the focusing lens of time you linked says "100% reduced chance for prophecies to have events that are not monolith". Does that not only show monolith prophecies? Double negative? I think I'm misreading something ^^'

buoyant roost
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yes 😄 because monolith events does not mean you cannot fullfill propehices in monoliths

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monoliths events are timeline boss kills and certain corruption requitements

tribal burrow
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AH, I see! Right I get it now. That's smart

buoyant roost
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when you remove both monolith events and non-monolith ones, that leavers only what I wrote

tribal burrow
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Right right, thanks ^^

buoyant roost
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so wait when I have 60% endurance + 100% glancing blow

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that means I only take 95% damage (given my resistances are maxed)

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because foot of the mountain makes my whole hp as endurance threshold basically

serene crane
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right, I forgot about Mountain... ehhh well you wont have any glancing blow then... 😄

buoyant roost
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man bladestorm tree really sux for the detonation

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I have 5 skill unused and really nowhere to put

buoyant roost
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each stack gives 5% regardles of your dodge

serene crane
buoyant roost
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lol...
wtf

tribal burrow
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One final quick question, can I still only get that dagger to drop in the reign of dragons timeline with the prophecies? or anywhere

serene crane
upper vale
serene crane
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Reign of Dragons is just a bit extra because that timeline has unique/set weapons as echo reward so you can get it from that aswell

buoyant roost
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one thing to @tribal burrow LP chance dont depend on corruption level

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so I woiuld just take any prophecies and run them in the fastest clear you can do

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thats when hunting uniques. for exalted, different story

tribal burrow
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Gotcha. Yeah I'm not CoF lvl 8 yet so can't buy those greater lenses yet. So gotta waste some points first still :P

buoyant roost
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you can buy all hte lenses I think? you just cant use 3. You need level 9

serene crane
buoyant roost
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@serene crane what do you think instead of +4 bladestorm on helm, I get 120% damage while wielding dagger/sword. This would give me I think 120% more damage, because I get both throwing and physical

serene crane
buoyant roost
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but I think when you have "120% increasing damage when weilding dagger/sword" that would give you 120% throwing +120% physical. Or am I wrong @serene crane

buoyant roost
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I just tested it, throwing does not change lol

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or wait wait. it does nvm

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you actually get %200 increase @serene crane

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because you have both physical and throwing tags

main cape
sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (69) / Marksman (12) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,893, Regen: 19.72/s
▸ Mana: 157.5, Regen: 12.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 110%, Regen: 99/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 25 Dex / 20 Int / 9 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 84% / 93% / 92% / 122% / 75% / 95%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 579
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (431)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,094)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 140%

serene crane
vital oxide
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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdzJVjMO

just sharing for anyone who wants to maxxpush using TriKster's bladestorm shuriken bladedancer, this is what i believe to be the optimal setup! (Tiers in my guide are just what i think should be prioritized - t7, t6, t5, t4 accordingly based on your budget. Reses are fine in lieu of crit strike avoidance (overage). YOU MUST HAVE A MAXRANGE ROLL OMNIS.

Rotation:

  1. smoke bomb to travel, gain buffs and silver shroud stack
  2. throw out 3 bladestorms in one direction as far as possible for clear. Dancing Strike elsewhere for more clear (shadow cascade will melt everything)

Bossing Rotation:

  1. Smoke Bomb
  2. Hold Dancing Strike as long as there are no risky boss patterns
  3. Self-cast shuriken when boss has risky patterns and you need to stand still

changes compared to his version:

  • shadow cascade converted to fully scale off throwing via [Dagger Dance] node, also proccing shadow daggers. Mainly for clear.
  • Blade Shield can actually summon and stack many shurikens, but ALL SHURIKENS CAN ONLY HIT ONCE EACH, even with 100% pierce node taken. Since clear is already godly with dagger dance + bladestorm, we want to instead increase single target - we do this by converting pierce chance to critical mult instead via Ricochet node. The ricochets effect itself is irrelevant.

Addressing Mana Issues:

  • throwing -10 mana is mandatory due to Ricochet node taken for shuriken
  • Artifice of Devastation needs high mana regen implicit
  • 1 single mana regen roll on rings helps.
  • drop crit mult multipliers on huge idols for CDR+ManaReg enchantment

Should you use Red Ring?

  • this build has issues hitting the attribute requirements to make the -10% damage taken work. I personally don't recommend it.

good luck to everyone pushing this! Original creator of the build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn-FYaoDsrY
even with half-ass gear you should be able to hit 1k corruption easily.
feel free to suggest changes

sharp ravenBOT
#
Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (59) / Marksman (10) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,996, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 174.51, Regen: 14.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 52/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 77 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 37% / 37% / 37% / 64% / 33% / 38% / 43%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 799
▸ Dodge Chance: 32% (1115)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,064)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 18%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 123%

serene crane
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Need a bigger expert on these things here tbh, I really dont think thats how it even works

wary cedar
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@serene crane can you do me a favor?

serene crane
wary cedar
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🥵

serene crane
wary cedar
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💧

buoyant roost
serene crane
buoyant roost
serene crane
upper vale
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if I understood, % increased modifiers apply individually to all tags that have a flat value associated with them?
so if a skill has physical, throwing and area, then %increase damage for area skills will apply to the % to the physical and throwing tags?

buoyant roost
upper vale
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just example

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that any %inc damage will work that way

oblique mirage
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anybody running shadow rend/cascade, synch strike, smoke bomb and shift have a loot filter i can grab? or at least a good recommend, most i can find aren't really doing what im trying to

main cape
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any guide for the umbral blade bladestorm build

cobalt mantle
# upper vale if I understood, % increased modifiers apply individually to all tags that have ...

Scaling isn't really tag-based, those are just guidelines to help you build. If you have a skill that deals physical throwing damage, then getting 20% increased physical damage will be identical to 20% increased throwing damage or 10% of each, etc.
If you add a bunch of flat cold throwing damage to that skill, like through mourningfrost, the cold damage will still only scale with cold and/or throwing increases, not physical.

buoyant roost
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tags do matter actually

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I mean.... that gives you a guide on what will increase the skill damage.

shrewd dome
#

is anyone using the Flow passives? whats your combo to proc it with dancing strike and shuriken?

zenith rivet
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Each of the attacks from Dancing Strikes is considered a unique skill therefore you proc and consume Flow just by using Dancing Strikes

shrewd dome
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oh wait it just procs off any ability we use it looks like, nevermind lol

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yeah I see that now

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should I use the consumed proc on blade dance or bladestorm?

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how are you dealing with the life gain on hit with low life though?

zenith rivet
#

you dont

shrewd dome
#

its still pushing me to almost 40-50% HP

zenith rivet
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you dont play it

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its fine for bossing since hitting 1 target wont get you to high hp but for monos where there are a lot of monsters its impossible to use it

shrewd dome
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ah okay

zenith rivet
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i tried 🙁

wary cedar
shrewd dome
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whats your guys altar loot filter looking like lol

wary cedar
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the altar i want + any tier of "+ omen capacity"

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i already got that

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so i dont really need more

shrewd dome
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ah okay. the +% bonus to suffixes and affixes arent BiS?

wary cedar
#

chase altars drop rare anyway

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i will look at them if one drops and decide then

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but i only have one special slot in my altar that boosts idols

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refractered slot

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or whatever it is called

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and about only one i dont really care xd

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if your altar has a lot of them try looking for t6/7 of boosted stats for idols in those slots ig

shrewd dome
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I need to start filtering out altars lol I have too many

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seems like the ones with not that many refracted slots are trash

wary cedar
#

depends

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as i said my altar of choice only has one refracted slot

buoyant roost
#

it's the one that can fit most idosl though

wary cedar
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just so i can have more trash idols equiped at once

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idol grind is really not fun in this game i gotta say

fading burrow
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guys, is there a universal filter in S4

serene crane
#

Fiat Multipla of altars

wary cedar
shrewd dome
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@fading burrowI use raxx's but edited it

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he also has it setup for shuriken bladedancer too

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much faster to edit since 95%+ is already one

fading burrow
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hmm okay i'll check his one

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big thanks, chat

wary cedar
#

why does bro got ballista as pfp
mf really is dedicated lmao

buoyant roost
#

you know boys, I just realized Wings of Discord and certian Altars can actually be seriously op lol

wary cedar
#

Wing of Discord Gang

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i m still looking for my 2lp one

serene crane
#

I got one napping around in stash

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got it from Nemesis Gregory

wary cedar
#

these damn lunatics

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😡

upper vale
wary cedar
buoyant roost
#

Man the weaver idol mechanic just sux ass 🙁

serene crane
#

wait wtf I just facetanked t4 Julra's opening oneshot? omegalul

buoyant roost
#

I think its by far the worst mechanic in the game

buoyant roost
cobalt mantle
serene crane
buoyant roost
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not sure how much damge it does

wary cedar
serene crane
wary cedar
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"her" after i called it "it"

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is crazy

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perv

serene crane
#

Dont blame me, blame the devs

wary cedar
#

always these damn devs 😡

shrewd dome
#

which monolith do u guys use as your farming/pushing one?

quartz gust
#

It depends on if you need a specific item or which boss / harbinger you prefer to fight

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Doesn't really matter otherwise

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Or if you want to farm for a better Blessing roll I guess

shrewd dome
#

yeah dont really need anything

wary cedar
shrewd dome
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i meant for blessing

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always need better gear but nothing specific I guess

charred pagoda
#

if i wanted to try that umbral blade recall uber abby one shot build, is ballista falconer a good build to use to level to reduce the respec cost?

quartz gust
#

If you want to yeah

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Leveling up with Umbral Blade would probably be the cheapest way though

charred pagoda
#

ty

daring blade
#

Will Salt the Wound work with the crit damage per bleed stack from that one set? STW is supposed to work only with generic crit damage. The set supposedly provides generic crit damage per bleed, but idk if the fact it happens through an item interaction disqualifies it.

serene crane
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Yea it works with Jormun set

hasty fjord
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anyone playing rend? I am trying to do abberoth but mana keeps depleting even while standing in shadows after some time. Any advice?

serene crane
hasty fjord
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set item shard?

deft wadi
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its a champion affix

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only drops on items from champions

serene crane
hasty fjord
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I am trying to kill Abberoth, been going back and force, but I always get one shot'd through the clutter on the screen. Reached 25% and saw that b@stard healing again. I was like nooooo, and I got killed sadly xD

serene crane
#

In weaver tree you can pick some nodes that increases the spawn of champions and chance for them to drop an exalted item, the gloves drop quite often but getting some decent ones to craft might take a bit of luck since you ideally want one with t7 in something to Havoc into melee attack speed

wary cedar
serene crane
#

So whats news on the RogueNews?

crimson latch
#

NOTHIN

buoyant roost
serene crane
olive galleon
wary cedar
#

after that i ll grind a bit

buoyant roost
# serene crane What is it this time? 😄

well marksman. i have first one stupid idea, i never tried. but will probably go the hail of arrows bleed. its a build i played long time ago, season 1. nothing exciting, but it might be 😄

#

how is your bleed stuff going

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where you at

serene crane