🔪┃rogue

[unkempt kiln]

anyone playing this build? is it hard to gear? looks confusing! https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-rend-bladedancer-guide

[magic gull]

honestly its not terrible but def gonna take a few tries

[unkempt kiln]

have you played it?

[gaunt river]

resistance matters but lightning damage is rather rare on mobs, compared to physical, void, fire etc

[magic gull]

yeah im using it right now but my gear rn isnt 1:1 but i pretty much have the foundation of it

[unkempt kiln]

whats it like? is it very tanky?

easy to play?

big dam?

[ebon jungle]

do people still play dragonsong? any build out there to get an idea or is it even worth your time

[magic gull]

i wouldnt say tanky but def has a way to stay alive, you do gain health and es when you attacl/create shadows so as long as you keep getting shadows youre constantly regaining health and shield

and i would say yeah pretty easy to play as smoke bomb/shift (depends if moving around map or boss) and shadow rend are the only manual trigger while the rest are automatic

[drowsy wind]

no. shadows drop umbral blades which are not bladestorms anymore XD but it's great for bladestorm builds

bladestorm/shuriken build: lightning or physical?

[upper river]

well I have no idea. Im doing something kinda dumb that seems to be kinda sorta working lol.

Found this, so Im using it with some falcon skills, shadow rend and a t-rex.

[wanton hull]

i see. well aiming to grind higher in corruption i was wondering if it matters to cap resis or if i die anyway due to the high dmg in higher corruption

[gaunt river]

it's not as bad as most games like poe where undercapping resistance drastically reduces your survivability, but you should not ignore it. Taking 75% extra damage might not be as bad as taking 400% extra damage but it's not good

[wanton hull]

aight thanks!

[deft patrol]

How do I kill Uber with the dancing strikes, shurikens, bladestorm build? I keep jumping into shit, I have the dmg to get it down to 80%+60% before the slam

[lapis pumice]

Keep trying till u're good at the fight, u have the damage

[buoyant roost]

dancing strikes has the issue of moving eratically, and you don't have too much control when moving. bad for bosses in my experience in general

[ashen rampart]

which rogue build has the easiest time with uber aberoth ?

please suggest atleast 2 builds

[cyan wren]

if not countin one shot falconer then shadow cascade bd.

[robust pasture]

this is pretty good if im converting shadow cascade to fire, right? wish it had more WW but it is what it is

[ashen rampart]

is the one shot falconeer easy to build?

[upper vale]

which mastery is more tanky-sh?

[cyan wren]

combo heavy build. Needs time to practice.

[ashen rampart]

got a planner for it /

[cyan wren]

its not a mapper so i dont recommend.

[buoyant roost]

looks good. you can use the weaver set maybe to even increase more effect.

[merry charm]

I have a feeling I’m probably gonna end up switching from Lightning to Physical on shuriken for best scaling with Bladestorm. Trying Lightning on shurikens now but with moving blades to try and take advantage of the boomerang effect… BS would probably need a conversion unique to synergize enough to scale

[unique umbra]

If I only have 1 LP and I'm using shadows to do shadow cascade / shadow rend is it better for me to add +flat melee to my traitors tongue or + %phys or is there a better mod I should use withonly 1 lp

[lime thorn]

my idols kinda good

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (68) / Marksman (20) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,524, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 146.51, Regen: 13.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 72%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 55 Str / 53 Dex / 36 Int / 23 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 80% / 118% / 84% / 85% / 73% / 82%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 457
▸ Dodge Chance: 40% (1441)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,307)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 23%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Decoy / Umbral Blades

[teal remnant]

Can someone gearcheck me what i should i focus on? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/PeterPanik/character/Ballaleika

Orienting at Triksters dancing strikes shuriken build

im at 320 corruption

[lime thorn]

might want to swap blessings to armor% and flat armor once you got cold and fire res on your eqs

you should also be having t7 on everything

if 300 corruption is good enough for you, then you should be fine gearing for the endgame planner

also try to find at least a t6 missing hp/ward experimental to slam on the liraka's

[jagged sedge]

I'm trying to hit that and throwing damage on my LP2 liraka

Why is that one good?

[lime thorn]

because you are already onthe lowlife build

you can just continue building more ward

[jagged sedge]

True

Is there a possibility of adding experimental affixes on an item?

[cyan wren]

frenzy on boots and traversal cd on potion use on belts

[fervent timber]

Hi gamers, I'm relatively new to LE with my 400h. Last season I tried to defeat uber aberroth with a viod knight without success.

This season I'm playing Ballista Falconer, and right now in 320corruption with rly good dps but most things kill me instantly if I'm not careful.. but I've started to collect some gear to try Umbral Blades.
Do you have any other recommendations, or tips on which rogue build I should run to handle high corruption with decent defense and with dps to take on uber aberroth.
There are so many different builds, I'd be grateful for your opinions

[lime thorn]

youre gonna need to find the rune prison complex woven echo

then dont use it, just imprint it and pray it shows up

[jagged sedge]

I see

Ty

[rocky nova]

Ballista is definitely the best dps in the game currently, but is extremely squishy, your only defensive is guaranteed dodges basically.

If you want a more balanced build, the shadow rend / shadow cascade variant has good defensives (when you get a couple of ward gained on shadow affixes going). Build requires quite a few sets/uniques to really get going though.

The shuriken/bladestorm/dancing strikes build is also really good defensively (for a rogue) while having really good dps as well.

All 3 of those builds have more than enough DPS to do uberroth.

In terms of dps it's ballista > shadow cascade > shuriken build. Tankiness is shuriken > shadow cascade >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ballista

[junior oriole]

I found tankiness better on shadow cascade than shurikens

[rocky nova]

maybe i need to reroll

[fervent timber]

Thank you very much, appreciate your answer! This is the planner im follow:

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/ballista-falconer-guide

maybe i can try out the hardcore variant and see how that feels for mapping. Most of the time it flows and i flying through, but suddenly i become oneshot’ed

[rocky nova]

I'm not very familiar with a hardcore variant of that build

But the non hc version of that is incredibly OP but will remain super squishy 😄

[rocky nova]

with enough gear i think it will be yeah fair enough

[lime thorn]

might be able to push to 2k corruption

is there any recc timelines to push on?

[unique umbra]

I’m having a hard time deciding what to slam as the first stat on daggers. If it should be flat melee or something else for shadow cascades and melee shadow rend.

I don’t get how people scale range so high like Abomination builds hitting for 36M dmg.

[lime thorn]

are you playing fire trap SR or just physical SR

[cyan wren]

100 ubers loot.

[upper vale]

which shuriken build you're talking about the bladestorm one?

[lime thorn]

looks good

good luck with slams

[rocky nova]

Bladestorm/dancing strikes

[lime thorn]

holy

[dusty olive]

whats a guy gotta farm to get some t7/t7 pieces

[dusty olive]

Whoof, highest ive seen is 3mil and I was feelin good

[wary cedar]

nothing

not intended to have such items

[lime thorn]

nemesis is the best for now, to have high fp too

also hes right, even i dont have double t7 eqs

just t7 + good corrupts

[wary cedar]

endgame grind got hit hard this season

[lime thorn]

eh the grind for good corrupts has been fun

[wary cedar]

so you can basiacally call it a day after the 1LP T7 slam + corrupt

[lime thorn]

keep gambling

like this

[dusty olive]

heck ill take t7/t6

so that i can maybe high roll a 2lp slam xD

[lime thorn]

yeah i got all those 2x t7s and t7 t6 mostly from nemesis

sometimes an average 2lp slam could land you a great corrupt

[lime thorn]

didnt slam this, was egging on nemesis then corrupted it

[dusty olive]

also need the dang runes to keep crafting lol

[lime thorn]

true, havoc has been grindy

and especially for SR, you play with sets so you cant rely on legendary slams

you HAVE to craft good exalts into BiS reforged sets

so thats the grind for SR players

[amber solstice]

Can you share your build pls?

[dusty olive]

I dont even know where to begin crafting this monster

How do I get rid of Mirage in this case? I need to put set + ward per shadow on that

am i just stuck with a 33% on the rune of removal?

[wary cedar]

read through the other crafting items you got

[dusty olive]

the cryptic message isnt helping, i cant envy it and pray because theres alreadya sealed

chaosing it doesnt work

[lime thorn]

in this case you just imprint this on weaver

its 65fp

then you gamba the 33% removals on either the old/new equip once you get it

depends if you like the new base better for imprinting

[dusty olive]

which weaver one

[lime thorn]

weaver tree item imprints

[wary cedar]

no

[dusty olive]

yeah which one though, just any it fits in?

[wary cedar]

imprints dont work anymore

you just have to gamba

[lime thorn]

they just work 50% less lol

[wary cedar]

haha

no

they work 50% less AND don't drop multi exalted anymore

maybe they can

but the multi exalted drop got even more tuned down than just 50%

this "much lower chance" feels like basically 0%

[lime thorn]

he doesnt NEED to have multi exalts

he can just imprint that high fp item

then craft a great T7 equip from the drop

just keep gambling

[wary cedar]

you dont need imrpints for that tho

you find plenty of single T7

FP doesnt matter for this since you find so many of these

so you got many tries on winning the gamba

[lime thorn]

thats obvious

its a much harder task to get T7 then all T5s without the high fp

people definitely just keep grinding the T7s while waiting for the imprints to drop

slow 1min uber kill

[serene crane]

Whats your boss dummy kill timer?

[lime thorn]

hmm ill check in a couple mins, have to log in

which one is the boss dummy though

usually when i go there, theres like a couple dummies

[serene crane]

the boss dummy and normal Aberroth are the only things Ive tried last night with the Rend Shadow Daggers (no cascade or dmg by shadows scaling) and it was like 45-60seconds or like that with the two setups Ive tried... but I was sleepy af so maybe I did some stuff wrong

[serene crane]

when you go there its 2nd top from where you come, its in the name

[arctic fjord]

hi guys someone know whyer i can drop some li'raka's claws and some traitors tong's ? is there a way to find them ?

[lime thorn]

ok found it

[lime thorn]

through prophecies if you're COF, otherwise just look for timelines with gloves/daggers

[arctic fjord]

oh nokay, and justr a little question, is this normal that i got only "rare dagger/gloves" and no unic ?

[lime thorn]

on the timelines?

yeah should be normal, just continue running till you find uniques

but i honestly prefer doing prophecies

[arctic fjord]

yeah timeless i just start farm monolith for now
how unlock prophecies ?

[lime thorn]

could be faster had i only use 1 smoke bomb after the initial one

but yeah it should be a fast kill 15s

i assume the dummy's hp to be 1bil? then it might be 66.67m dps

[serene crane]

Looks great, way better damage than what I currently have for sure 😄

[lime thorn]

youll get there for sure trust

wonder how this compares to ballista zhp

[dusty olive]

no i had uber at 25% in the barrier and just missed a black hole cast on me and died

[serene crane]

Probably not with purely shadow daggers 😄 should still be viable for uber tho, just a bit slower

[lime thorn]

you want to see my planner?

some gear might be mid though still have forseeable upgrades

[serene crane]

Sure, link it 😄

[sharp raven]

Primalist, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

None

General:

▸ Health: 1,112, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 106.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 3 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 2% / 2%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 222

Used skills:

None

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (68) / Marksman (20) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,532, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 222.51, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 58%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 53 Str / 51 Dex / 29 Int / 21 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 79% / 90% / 79% / 91% / 84% / 94%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 454
▸ Dodge Chance: 41% (1481)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,315)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 23%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Decoy / Umbral Blades

[lime thorn]

messed up the previous one lol

[dusty olive]

ahh all of uber abberoths attacks look the damn same

slam and flail slam look the same but have different areas you gotta dodge to, miserable

[lime thorn]

can anyone make sense of this to me

[dusty olive]

if you have 100 total attributes, 10% of your armour DR counts towards DOT damage

[kind adder]

If you have 100 total attributes then 10% of armor mitigation applies to damage over time

[dusty olive]

so if your armour DR is 30%, 3%

[lime thorn]

oh so it reduces the DoT damage i take?

[dusty olive]

yes

[lime thorn]

oh thats sweet

[jagged sedge]

I've been playing a lot of bladestorm shuriken

I kinda wanna try something else

how is ballista falconer?

[lime thorn]

i played it to lv82 and switched because i died more than my bladestorm previously

[serene crane]

Looks quite cool 😄 I was trying to swap around rings and amulets last night; Entwined ring with Abandonded amulet and Keplahan blue ring pretty much gives me +4/+5 skills

Truesight Glass felt also great, but at the cost of dropping Entwined ring and losing a loooot of +X skills...

[lime thorn]

also importantly those sweet attribute stats and resistances

honestly just depend on 1 LP legends entwined, if your nemesis makes it legendary just pop a corruption on it

you might win big

[serene crane]

Yep, my resistances dropped quite a lot 😄

[lime thorn]

thats what happened to my ring

[buoyant roost]

Save me. I'm going crazy with the theorycrafting XD on the ignite build

[serene crane]

Ive also tried the Shift recall and as much as Im not a fan of the gameplay, traversal smoke just feels better... seeing all the recalled umbrals proccing Shadow Daggers was cool 😄 then they spawn more shaows into more umbrals, recycling shadows all over and over 😄

[serene crane]

Sounds like progress then 😄

[buoyant roost]

Check this out. Remember the 5th skill on the Flow?

I figured out I can insert a skill inbetween dancing strikes, because I have big AS, you dont really stop moving. So I'm doing dancing and just inserting a random Cinder strike, which give me oil coating and the 5th flow, which in the end I proc with the DS for extra 100% over time.

but I had to get rid of shurikens on bladestorm. it's too much of a mana hog. But the damage even without bladestorm is pretty good

[jagged sedge]

yeah it looks very squishy

[lime thorn]

upside is you clear many things in the map

very fast

but shadow rend cascade is about as fast while being decently tanky

[jagged sedge]

is that shadow rend bladedancer?

[jagged sedge]

So kill enemies before they kill you type thing?

[lime thorn]

yeh

[lime thorn]

yup

[jagged sedge]

I'm gonna try it tbh

shadow rend casacde looks like it needs a lot of shit

[lime thorn]

yep it does

unlike many builds you cant rely on legendary slams

you need to craft all the good sets

but you definitely could start out using the un-shattered set equips though

[serene crane]

Sounds good then, you're throwing shurikens around you anyway with DS... its sad DS isnt 0 mana, would be so sweet with Sapping Strikes

[lime thorn]

also i dont know how zhp ballista players do the omen's veil echo

[serene crane]

Honestly... If you can get your hands on the Entwined beast ring, you can easily start jut by playing set items

even without any crafting, 300c was melting... and if you get several set copies, just corrupt them

[buoyant roost]

That would be amazung 🔥 Where the devs 😄 btw tell me what you think please https://youtu.be/5afGKSu0ltE I even forgot to use Cinder here, so it should be even bit faster.

[jagged sedge]

okay, gotcha

ty

does corruption droprate etc scale a lot past 300

is it soft capped at 300?

[serene crane]

Looks alright, but just 100c :c

[cobalt mantle]

It scales forever, I think most stop at either 300, 600, or 1000. Not much point going beyond that except for leaderboards and whatever.

[lime thorn]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/monolith-scaling

[jagged sedge]

is there a way to remove nemesis affixes from legendary items?

[lime thorn]

yea i would recommend to stop at either of those breakpoints as mentioned above

[buoyant roost]

yeah. wanted that to be base. havent pushed cc yet, but will start

[serene crane]

You can get good stuff at 300, just 300 is a decent number for the build testing

[lime thorn]

a great goal would be 300c then 1000c maybe

[cobalt mantle]

No. If it's a random drop unique, you can imprint it and it counts as LP for the imprint.

[lime thorn]

nah you just use those items for LP unique rerolls

at gauntlet of strife

[cobalt mantle]

or you can use it to reroll a better item with less or equal LP/affix count

[serene crane]

I used to chill in 1000c with lightning LM, but farming Lagoon I just dropped it to 500c, because 1k Lagoon with Harb wasnt fun at all

[dusty olive]

ok i need better gear before i can kill uberroth

[jagged sedge]

oh okay

[dusty olive]

Fastest way to get bulk Havoc runes?

[jagged sedge]

so I can reroll it and if it's 0 LP

i go nemesis again?

over and over

[lime thorn]

uh yeahg

[jagged sedge]

I got one omnis

it's just one all skill and decent res

it's all i have though

[serene crane]

The eternal cycle of Nemesis towers and turtles...

[jagged sedge]

lmao

indeed

[lime thorn]

im in the eternal cycle of omens veil then fractured prisons

finding the exulis i want

[serene crane]

Does it drop with random corrupted affixes? 🤔 I still havent been there :c

[lime thorn]

he drops rings you could technically keep corrupting as long as you dont brick it

and the amulet always drops with 3 affixes

2 stat conversions + 1 random

[jagged sedge]

it doesn't seem to work for omni?

I have an affix from nemesis

but i can't place this in the turtle

says that i need an item with at least one LP

[serene crane]

You can only turtle uniques with LP

[jagged sedge]

ok so what do i do about this omnis?

I'll just corrupt it

[serene crane]

If Nemesis give you unique with affix you dont like, either yolo and corrupt it or keep it as a fuel to reroll another same unique with same LP

[lime thorn]

oh i meant you use that legendary unique to reroll affix values in gauntlet of strife echo

make sure you corrupt it so it adds 1 affix there turning a 1 LP legendary into a '2 LP' legendary

resulting in bricked 1 LP legendaries being able to reroll your useful 2 LP unique with good affix values

[jagged sedge]

ok so I'll go to gauntlet, reroll the affix

then corrupt it?

[serene crane]

kill boss, get 0LP => Nemesis => if 1LP => slam / turtle it
slam => corrupt
bad affix => reroll food
0LP from turtle => Nemesis

[lime thorn]

corrupt your legendary first

[jagged sedge]

I thought corrupted items can't be modified

[lime thorn]

then use that '2 LP corrupted legendary' to reroll your 2 LP unique

you sacrifice it

[serene crane]

Can you sac corrupted item in the Strife rerolling machine? 🤔

[jagged sedge]

lmao

[lime thorn]

yes you can

[jagged sedge]

might as well just delete it at this point

it's gone

[lime thorn]

ive been using it to cheat bricked 1 LP legendaries into corrupted 2 LP which then is sacrificed on 2 LP non legendary uniques

[lime thorn]

still useful, you could reroll affixes for your new non LP omni

[jagged sedge]

gauntlet?

[lime thorn]

yea

[jagged sedge]

right

thanks

[lime thorn]

honestly this game's beauty is being able to use bricked legendaries to help your untouched uniques

[buoyant roost]

really??? ::D

I though corrupted cant use afterwards with anything. that's great then

[lime thorn]

yea i think those are the only use for corrupted legendaries

[dusty olive]

I keep gettin good chestpieces lol

[lime thorn]

that 1.3b pop was sick

[serene crane]

Got a planner for this beast? 😄

I also need to find some slam for Lirakas... but idk if t7 throw or t7 attack speed... prooobably the speed? 🤔

[sage canyon]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/k42yoy0u#2 and BEAR SET on rogue +30 str KEKEW

its combo playstyle need to prebuff umbral recall with sword stacks+smoke bomb+blade storm+60+ shrouds and last skill of the flow

[serene crane]

I guess I corrupt my stash tab of bear set and see what I get

[buoyant roost]

Does army of skin works for melee skills dot damage?

the more damage

[sage canyon]

im still teesting mana might be issues, literally made it in 5 min lol

[serene crane]

No its just for the hit, nothing to do with dots

[lime thorn]

monster corrupt

[serene crane]

Damn thats huge 😄

[dusty olive]

god i love that corrupt

its so good

[lime thorn]

jup, as mid as the other affixes are, the corrupt makes it masssivee

[serene crane]

I got this, sadly the first t7 is 62% away from max roll and suffixes arent the best... a lot of damage tho 😄

[lime thorn]

overcapping my resistances a lot, might have to swap some equips later

[lime thorn]

oh dang thats quite nice

a direct upgrade would be the one with ward affix though

[serene crane]

Can get that on the helmet and be pretty much fine

[lime thorn]

eh get it both ways

my ward is currently at t5 on helmet and t7 on body armour

reaches 10k ward

would like more though

i guess more attack speed

[serene crane]

Is it too much to ask on something like mana on shadow creation...

[lime thorn]

eh mana issues gets solved once you have 6 preferably 7 shadows

with decent mana regen

[agile skiff]

your not overcapped by a lot you want 100% res so the -25% res from marked by death effect doesnt do anything to you

[lime thorn]

oh i could easily do that my just swapping my idols

which mob does that effect?

eh it seems pretty rare to find mobs that applies that

my res should be fine

[desert bridge]

It's one of the echo mods that can happen that makes all mobs do it

So it's super rare until it's EVERYWHERE

[lime thorn]

yea ill worry about that in super rare chance

[jagged sedge]

Do items that drop from prophecies scale based on the content you're doing? if I'm killing Julra on the first tier, is the gear worse?

Probably not but I wanted to make sure

[agile skiff]

killing julra for exalted items for ??? reason yeah

[lime thorn]

psuve any nice builds youve been running this season so far

[serene crane]

Whats your mana regen?

[lime thorn]

16.8

i think about 12 should be fine

i was 12 not too long ago

[serene crane]

Im at 11.8 now; 15.7 If I swap to belt with mana regen but less phys damage... hmmmm the struggle the struglle....

[lime thorn]

go with less physical damage

i just run a crappy belt with no damage affixes, i focus on t7 cooldown and preferably t5 mana regen

[serene crane]

But I can get to 7 shadows If I put +1gloves on, a bit of ele resists and attack speed but it could be way better there 😄 Lirakas is legit 20k more tooltip damage to SD

[lime thorn]

shadow gloves way better

tooltip can be bait sometimes

[gentle spire]

does anyone have a mid - late game loot filter for bladestorm bladedancer?

[lime thorn]

just check out raxx's loot filter

[wary cedar]

this is bait btw

[lime thorn]

yeah bro suggest a solution then

[wary cedar]

only solution is do give him a filter he can use lmao

but i m just saying the time needed to work trough draxx filter you can just set up your own 7-8 rule filter

[kind adder]

It took me like maybe 15 minutes lol, hardly a time sink

Granted I didn't use it for a while

[wary cedar]

same time for making your own filter

[serene crane]

When I put my one braincell to work, actually true... getting some exalted ones for crafting will be a bit pain tho 😄

[kind adder]

Only started using it at like lvl 70

So I didn't have to worry about any of the leveling crap in there

[wide yacht]

i fixed it

now then, how am i gonna get a double exalt?

[lime thorn]

good job

[wary cedar]

nemesis

[wide yacht]

it refuses to pick daggers for some ungodly reasons

it exalted every weapon type in the game for me thus far

[dusty olive]

man getting weaver rep is kinda miserable

[buoyant roost]

Maybe usable?

[wary cedar]

every bow build uses uniqes

[buoyant roost]

yeah. too many good uniques. which is good 😄

[white knoll]

man I can't see anything

[robust pasture]

is fire convert > phys without using kuzon sword

[amber solstice]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ru/o3ZbPkE0

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (65) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (4)

General:

▸ Health: 2,460, Regen: 23.6/s
▸ Mana: 241.16, Regen: 13.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 20/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 41 Dex / 22 Int / 15 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 66% / 55% / 73% / 85% / 65% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 492
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (640)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (559)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Dancing Strikes / Bladestorm / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens

[amber solstice]

Can anyone give me some advice on how to improve my survivability? Uber Abberot kills me with literally every attack.

[buoyant roost]

you need more hp. your endurance is also 30%

crit avoidance 70%

[wary cedar]

endurance on low hp build?

[buoyant roost]

ah sorry just saw the armor XD

well for sure crit avoidance should be 100%

[serene crane]

@granite plover I forgot, are you using any primordial item? 😄

t8 Mirage gives +2 to max shadows... too bad it would collide with Entwined ring

[ebon jungle]

do we have a dragonsong build out there thats current?

[buoyant roost]

set item is primordial 😄

set ring*

[wary cedar]

you can play it with heartseeker

[ebon jungle]

wellmy concern isnt what skill but rather how i should build it

[wary cedar]

just like regular heartseeker with a different bow

[buoyant roost]

Man, I wanna get the Humming Bee sword for my new char, and I cant' find LP1 lol. Spend like 50 prophecies

I got 2 LP0 wtf

[ebon jungle]

heartseeker better than cinder strike?

[wary cedar]

lmao yeah

[ebon jungle]

sitting on this currently. playing cof since i played merchant last league

i think its pretty decent

[buoyant roost]

I mean.... if you want to kill just large amount of mobs cinder is better 😄 but the game is more about killing high hp stuff

[wary cedar]

ya it's all right, you really want to aim for the shurikens on bow crit for the corruption affix tho

[ebon jungle]

🤔

[wary cedar]

shurikens will give you good dmg boost, and since you re close with dragonsong anyway you can skill them into chakram

you can get this on bow and quiver

[amber solstice]

thx

[ebon jungle]

oooo

whats the best quiver to match with heartseeker in this instance?

[wary cedar]

nightbringer

or spidersilk

[ebon jungle]

yeah i would love to see a complete build out of this because im lost :kekw

i see the point ofc

[coarse grove]

im trying to understand if Tabi even a damage upgrade over rare boots with set affix or mountain boots

[wary cedar]

i dont have one at hand for this rn 🥀

[buoyant roost]

Is Bladestorm affected by throwing speed?

[coarse grove]

yes

its throwing attack

[ebon jungle]

all good. how does the build survive? relying on dodge?

[wary cedar]

you need to get some good ehp vs one shot

sustain is good with the passive nodes from marksman

[ebon jungle]

i see well youve made it clear for me that im nowhere close to doing the build until i get some more stuff xd

[buoyant roost]

yeah but in description it says it hits 3 times per second. so was not sure.

[wary cedar]

you can always start playing heartseeker, but yk marksman in general are on the lower end of the tier lists so you get some gear going if you want to do stuff on corruption

[coarse grove]

perhaps you asking if bladestorm's hit rate scales with throwing as?

[ebon jungle]

best bet is to just continue my flame reaver n farm yeah. i appreciate your time to answer ❤️

[amber solstice]

It really became easier after I increased my critical hit avoidance to 100%.

[buoyant roost]

yes if it scales how much times it hits per second with throwing attack speed

[coarse grove]

nah throwing as doesn tscale hit rate

there is a node for hit rate specifically

[serene crane]

Its just how fast you throw the bladestorm itself 😄

[buoyant roost]

very useful 😄 speaking of which, someone tried the explosive node? "Blade Detonation"? 500% scaling seems crazy.

but I would assume hard mana issues

[coarse grove]

most likely the playstyle will be similar to what shadow rend is doing

[serene crane]

You can get -7 from BS nodes; -1 from Bladedancer and 2x -5 from t7 rings = - 18; BS then should be 0 mana enabling you Sapping Strikes

Or our beloved Mountain boots, but... :<

[buoyant roost]

You need the Razorrain node though to be really good

otherwise you need to cast 1 by 1. death sentence probably 😄

[serene crane]

You could always run 0 mana shurikens to just pump your mana back I guess 😄

[buoyant roost]

Im going to play a bee falconer, at least try it XD

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost some bladestorm/shuriken throw, could be a lot of damage maybe? 😄

• BS would cost you mana, but Shuriken should pump the mana back fast with Sapping Strikes
• Traversal with Shift; drop Smoke Bomb for damage and some survival => summoning shadows with Smoke and Shift => they drop Umbral Blades and can throw Shurikens => recalling Umbrals by Shifting to give you even more mana and send them to nearby enemies
• both BS and Umbrals also apply Shadow Daggers so thats a bit of extra damage on top 😄
• maybe swap Primordial unique dagger for another dagger (?) or Jormun sword => get Jormun belt for the (2) 20% more damage and Trusight Glass, that also might be some huge damage
  https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeYJzRN5

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (58) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,143, Regen: 14/s
▸ Mana: 156.51, Regen: 12.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 36 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 11% / 11% / 11% / 26% / 11% / 13% / 18%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 229
▸ Dodge Chance: 25% (862)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 14% (401)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shift

[buoyant roost]

checking @serene crane

[serene crane]

I just didnt bother with resists and health, so... might need to take a better care of that

[buoyant roost]

just checking the BS tree. I wonder whether detonation gets crit chance from the tree? It should? and more damage I guess as well

[serene crane]

I guess so? 🤔Im like... 94.678187% it works

[wary cedar]

what 's the other 5.321813%?

[serene crane]

Being stuck in 100corr because I made it

Eh I just got the Puncture bow with t3 Shuriken corruption... but all my slamed Drelkors got bricked...

[wary cedar]

i swapped back to league character now

legacy is stupid with the imprints nerf lmao

[cunning jackal]

Which one is better? Cant find a good gloves to leg craft for first one yet

[buoyant roost]

use it to reroll

[serene crane]

Keep the legendary ones, slam 1LP with t7 throw or use some bricked Lirakas to reroll the legendary ones

[ebon jungle]

what critical chance does throwing in general benefit from?

ranged?

bow rather?

[wary cedar]

throwing

[buoyant roost]

but mostly you get just general crit chance

sorry not meant to reply on that xD

[buoyant roost]

meant for this

[cunning jackal]

What do you mean?

[ebon jungle]

its what i thought as well

[serene crane]

here you can use bad legendary item with X affixes to reroll the stats on the same unique with same LP

[cunning jackal]

I see, it keeps the Leg affix and rerolls damn I did not know

[buoyant roost]

man,.... why does doing monos at lvl20 gives very weak xp 🙁

[wary cedar]

bonus xp from higher leveled enemies caps at 10 levels

[buoyant roost]

but it still small. I level quite fast for example in Soulfire bastion

maybe mobs ther egive more xp?

[wary cedar]

@buoyant roost hello

[eager mason]

got hc saf

[serene crane]

Daaaamn, gz !

[ebon jungle]

is this even worth doing falcon on lol

[ebon jungle]

huge congratz well done what a feat

[wary cedar]

there is a build using this

[unique umbra]

how does this happen?

[lime thorn]

i just checked the tooltip at the end of omens veil

[unique umbra]

just basic, i'm wanting to make like 8 shadows and then do one big massive hit with hidden strength

[lime thorn]

8 shadows with +2 on gloves?

[unique umbra]

+2 on chets

[lime thorn]

im thinking if its possible for +1 then another corrupt +1

would require an insane corrupt

[unique umbra]

Just primordial it

[serene crane]

Wasnt there a way with Sync Strike to excede your max shadows or something like that?

[unique umbra]

Mirage gloves from champions give +1 and then you get 5 from blade dancer line

[serene crane]

base 3, BD +1, primo mirage +2, BD node +1, doppel body +1

If you arent using any other primordial item, then why not 😄

[unique umbra]

so my original question was, is it better to have your first slam be flat melee damage?
then the other question is how the heck did you get your tool tip to 10M

[lime thorn]

either flat physical melee damage or melee attack speed would be preferred

just go into battle let your buffs stack up

after like 5s or battle youll see your tooltip reach mils

[unique umbra]

anyone know if it's possible to get T7 weaver rolls on your idols through enchanting / reforging or if those only come off flat drops from the enemies?

[wary cedar]

i don't understand this question

like i can figure out the first part

[lime thorn]

so far ive got a t6 weaver affix

[unique umbra]

Is this possible by using the enchanting pool at the end of tombs and cemetaries?

[lime thorn]

started out t3 or t2 something

[wary cedar]

yes

[lime thorn]

then i weaver runed it

[wary cedar]

idk how else you would get these

so hence i dont understand the question lol

[unique umbra]

I didn't know if T7 only came from flat drops on the ground

[wary cedar]

those dont drop at all

[unique umbra]

you know crafting maxes at T5 so

oh

i didn't know they don't drop like that at all

[unique umbra]

you can use a weaver rune on a T2 weaver item and it keeps the effect but rerolls the weavers will value?

[lime thorn]

no lol

have you tried using the weaver rune on a weaver item

[unique umbra]

i assume it works the same as other WW items and just eats up the WW value to make it the highest tier it would come out to

[serene crane]

If the idol has weaver's touch from the bench, you can just weaver rune it yeah

just got one t6 on me

[unique umbra]

so your item started T3 and had 3 WW and you runed it to get to T6 (makes sense)

[wary cedar]

@unique umbra are you potato?

[unique umbra]

? sorry I'm old, I don't get the joke, also don't know the game very well obviously lol

[wary cedar]

my question has nothing to do with the game

just asking

to make sure

[serene crane]

smh all Im getting from corrupting idols is minion resistance

[wary cedar]

i started skipping omens now

they re so useless in endgame

[serene crane]

I still do them for corruption runes and trying to get some good rolled altars

[wary cedar]

the altars feel like whatever

omen idol barely drop so not worth it

[serene crane]

t7 phys pen, we take that 😄

[crimson latch]

kinda lost, whats the best version of BD bladestorm?

[serene crane]

Purely Bladestorm? no idea tbh, it feels more like a secondary skill

I cooked one abomination where you throw bladestorms to roam around and keep throwing umbrals into it to make BS stronger, but idk If that even wroks...

and another abomination today with CJoe for Blade Detonation

[crimson latch]

oh betweene DS version and only shuriken?

[serene crane]

this and that

[crimson latch]

ohh so its better use umbral than DS?

[serene crane]

Sorry, Im a bit confusing why asking about DS?

[crimson latch]

i saw the other day a version with Dancing strike

but seems clunky

[serene crane]

Stacking the Rhytm stacks for BS to hit more? Its global buff is it can buff whatever

[half nova]

All bladestorm builds minus the explode version is clunky

The same way that any skill that requires 2-3 button presses to function is clunky

[dusty olive]

Hmm

[serene crane]

Damn

[dusty olive]

not even sure what order i should craft it

try havoc into t7/t6 prefix then redemption looking for melee/throwing?

[serene crane]

Ideally gamba 1:4 by Removal the throw attack speed, pick what you want, Havoc if you want to reroll suffix into like hybrid life?

Just my noob crafter guess 😄

[dusty olive]

25% chance to brick feels so bad

lol

i could also try to chaos glyph it

[serene crane]

Yea its bad unlucky gamba 😄

[primal cosmos]

Bleed falconer is ded 💔

[serene crane]

What happened to it? :c

[wraith nacelle]

pretty good early season corrupt a 7-6

[serene crane]

That must look quite funny with the cold Hs 😄

[wraith nacelle]

icicle machine gun ,but it can get crazier ounce I get more attack speed

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost time to pivot into marksman - ignite shurikens

[sullen axle]

throwing damage affects shadow cascade right?

[serene crane]

If you pick Dagger Dance, yea

[wraith nacelle]

do we think imprints will still put out something with 776 ?

[unique umbra]

So in this build you just stack attack speed and then massive ward with Gather Shadows every time you cast shadow rend?
with smokebomb up your rend cost like no mana so you can just go infinite? is that basically how this works?
What's triggering the shadow cascade?

[sage canyon]

rend tr9ggers

[unique umbra]

oh the shadow masacre, i see it now

[serene crane]

more attack speed = more Rend
Rend creates shadows, you can have ward on shadow creation from body, helmet and bit from idols but thats not worth having
Shadow Massacer procs Cascade which also refunds you mana so thats pretty much 'infinite' mana

I started running shift which recalls umbral blades and sadly it feels better than smoke bomb :c

[sage canyon]

u dont getflow from thatway less dmg

[serene crane]

Yea I dont play with Flow

[soft mauve]

so explosive ballista explosion doesnt have minion tags, but says "Your Ballista's added bow damage is applied at 250% effectiveness.", so im assuming thats a "minion bow damage" prefix from weapon.

Does my characters' flat bow damage still apply?

[topaz schooner]

Where do you get sealed max shadow gloves from? imprinted champion drops?

[serene crane]

I just moved my weaver tree nodes into more champs, twinned, exalt drops from champs in echoes and they drop "often"

[topaz schooner]

I'll have to try that, would love to get a pair with t7 melee attack speed

rn just using falcon fists with t7 melee attack speed

[dire forge]

Can't get champ drop from imprint, it's a sealed affix

[topaz schooner]

Ah it has to actually drop from the champ

[dire forge]

Yep it's a champ exclusive affix

[topaz schooner]

f

[dire forge]

Mirage iirc but I'm not sure

[serene crane]

yea

[topaz schooner]

What does mirage mean

again

[dire forge]

Mirage champion

[serene crane]

Its the name of the +1 shadow affix in the loot filter

[topaz schooner]

ah

[serene crane]

you can also run those woven echoes/chaos omen echo for champions

[topaz schooner]

oh true

[dire forge]

Or bloodline glade for that glorious t8 bait

[topaz schooner]

is it worth buying that for 4k amber? sounds like a lot of amber

[dire forge]

No it's not

[topaz schooner]

amber grind has been brutal for me, not sure how people farm it

ah wait you just imprint it after you find the echo

can you put t8 mod on lego?

id assume not

didnt play s3 so no idea about anything beast related

[serene crane]

I was imprinting Lostwood Folly when I needed ambers and stuff, they spawn pretty often and just yeet woven mods to surrounding echoes

[serene crane]

t8 is always sealed

[topaz schooner]

ahhh

[serene crane]

and counts as primordial item, so you cant use any primo unique

[topaz schooner]

true i should also imprint that just so i get more passive amber

[topaz schooner]

oh thats why no one uses t8 mods

the primo uniques are insane

[serene crane]

I guess so... some t8 can surely go giga hard... but I also skipped s3, so who knows 😄

[topaz schooner]

didnt you get world first uber abberoth in s2 olvrin

or am i thinking of another

[serene crane]

no lol, I wasnt playing falconer I didnt even kill him, it would be like 9min kill

[topaz schooner]

Ah it was Olio

with his bleed falcon

I havent been here in a while so names start to mesh

[serene crane]

Some time ago in another discord there was also Ovrin and Olven... a lil bit of confusion was happening all the time

Only t6, but finally something usable again

[topaz schooner]

I just dropped these from beast

cant use primo unique rn

because of them but

kinda sick :D

[minor locust]

If i try shadowrend multishot i will hate my life?

[serene crane]

I believe you'll achieve great things

[topaz schooner]

man arena feels so much better now

by now i mean after s2

[elder condor]

Is blade storm A tier right now?

[topaz schooner]

the average cascade enjoyer's fps

5070ti btw

lmao

[serene crane]

Fading Brink still hits hard as ever

[topaz schooner]

i feel like corrupting set items has a very high chance to brick or something

ive never seen it max all stats and i've corrupted like 20 doppel relics

[serene crane]

Its suppose to be more rare corruption... but I guess you're just unlucky 😄

[unique umbra]

For the effect "Increased Damage per active shadow with Shadow Cascade" is that only for my direct casts or does that also work for every shadow that casts?

Trying to decide which is better between that and the one that increases damage for skill used by shadows

[raven wave]

happy with this one

[wary cedar]

you play multishot?

[raven wave]

yes, and yes i hate myself

[wary cedar]

why that lil bud

[raven wave]

slammed this just after aswell lmaoo

great morning for me

i always loved MS, going to try push it to uber somehow

mission impossible

[wary cedar]

movementspeed when you want to stand still?

[raven wave]

what a silly comment lol

[wary cedar]

i m one the same mission with heartseeker

[wary cedar]

thats what i can do best

[raven wave]

hs can do it but

with a really weird setup

not a mapping one

but yea wish it got buffs

its sad that i can play multishot with basically the same build as season 2

and the only thing that changed is we cant shift / shuriken for armour anymore .. lool

meanwhile falconer 1 shot uber a few days ago

literally

[wary cedar]

nah i think builds like these are perfectly balanced
all the other builds are just way to overtuned
uber should be a challenge

[raven wave]

agree

[serene crane]

New falconer free 0 point exclusive node - 1st point: remove loading screens from the game; 2nd point: remove rp dialogs from the game

[raven wave]

if u wanna play a 'normal' build u need ridiculous gear (very hard now imprint nerfed) or broken class

and its always been odd to me that items like shattered world are gatekept behind a boss like that

theres no content to do after it really anyways

[serene crane]

No idea either tbh, maybe @sage canyon might know? :p

[raven wave]

works for any casts

[wary cedar]

maybe make it a very rare drop from normal abberoth would be my idea

[raven wave]

always been used for years, with dancing strikes/shift proccing cascade

[serene crane]

Even a bit rarer aswell from t3 omen encounters? 🤔

[wary cedar]

i ll try to find my 4lp kestrel today

[wary cedar]

it's so stupid they nerfed it, they can't even provide a reason for it besides "we don't want this powercreep" man this is no powercreep this is game progression...
and talking about powercreep while all classes are heavily unbalanced inbetween is crazy to me

[raven wave]

ye

either care about balancing or dont

pick one

[wary cedar]

all in all this season is kinda underwhelming

omen are useless in endgame

[raven wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMKUJWvTch0

xd

[sage canyon]

works for everything

[wary cedar]

only cool thing are the corruption rune, but we paid imprints to get them so idk how to feel about this

[sage canyon]

wdym?

whattt

[raven wave]

na the idol layoutrs are huge

[sage canyon]

omen idols are literally the biggest buffs on some builds

they are actually insane

[wary cedar]

omen only drop unusable shit in endgame

[raven wave]

and while i was dubious about corruption, i think most people were

[sage canyon]

and HAIL THE PYRAMID

[raven wave]

its turned out to be really fun

and great for the middle level / casual players

[sage canyon]

farm more, its arpg

[wary cedar]

oh you mean those with a horrendous droprate? 😂

[raven wave]

thats like saying red ring is useless cause it never drops

[sage canyon]

ye like the whole point of arpg is chasing loot

[serene crane]

45% increased shadow daggers pen on my 5 large idols, it adds quite nice numbers... If I wasnt using doppel relic and Entwinned ring I would just throw that unique relic that bosts non-unique idols by another 50%

[unique umbra]

That's awesome, so if I have to choose between 28% increased shadow cascade vs 60% increased skill used by shadows then the Shadow cascade is better after 3 or more shadows -- my primary damage is shadow cascade right now

[raven wave]

the 77/76 idol layouts can be kinda insane too

[unique umbra]

do you guys know if the damage from the mirages with lethal mirage count as shadows or not?

[raven wave]

yeah generally thats how it worksout so the per cascade is better

[wary cedar]

ya i m just saying they could ve been more interesting, there are ways
thing is about grindin in arpg that it needs to feel like my time is being valued, i dont have this feeling about omens.

[sage canyon]

that makes more sense

[raven wave]

the windows last a tad too long somtimes but it is what it is

[sage canyon]

i mean i like omens cause at least they are harder

but some builds too op obviously

[wary cedar]

they were cool in leveling because of the good exalted they drop, but once you get your build going and it's full of uniques it's underwhelming

[sage canyon]

ye i would speed them up too

[raven wave]

also the woven echo with 3 at once, thats a PC killer surely lol

i wonder if anyone crashes there

i have a good pc and drop frames prettyyy hard haha

shits funny though

[wary cedar]

my bro still playing on a 1080

[sage canyon]

my current build has only 5 uniques and 6 ex

set hoarding maxxing

[raven wave]

new sets are rly good

[sage canyon]

dusk shrouds helm tad too overtuned otherwise ye they are solid

[raven wave]

does anyone have an actual guide to weaver enchants btw

[wary cedar]

wdym

[raven wave]

i feel like ive enchanted my 1x3 large idol 100 times and no crit

maybe they dont get crit

lool

[wary cedar]

ya just do another 100 times

[raven wave]

forgot if some can some cant

[wary cedar]

ty for reading my guide

[sage canyon]

ye cause idol ench are shit and will take a ong time

[raven wave]

cause im not always using those ones

ye never seen it like this so far

[serene crane]

large ones or the flat ones? 😄

[raven wave]

nice ty

ye those

just was beginning to lose my mind and wonder lol

couldnt find a web resource to confirm

[serene crane]

It shouldnt really be something super rare to get 🤔

[raven wave]

ya, usually doesnt take long, just unlucky

[wary cedar]

@raven wave since you play multishot do you try to get the shuri affix on the bow?

[raven wave]

what for

[wary cedar]

for shurikens?

[raven wave]

dont use em

[wary cedar]

its autocast

[raven wave]

they are kinda pointless now they dont give armour, i dunno if the bow casting them counts as direct cast tho

i go for the increased attack speed for 3s + bow dmg, or more ideally more dmg to slowed targets i think

[wary cedar]

bro, you get them for dmg

[raven wave]

they wont do any

its throwing dmg

im not stacking throwing

[serene crane]

every single multishot crit hit triggers them, Ragu posted a vid here

[raven wave]

i suppose since its like 10% chance or sth right

[wary cedar]

best care are 19%

[raven wave]

ill try it

just cant imagine it adds alot

but i do have 'free' slots so ye

im using net/smoke atm

free 10% more dmg basically atleast

[wary cedar]

you need to get li'raks claws
and most of the throwing dmg affixes are on gear parts where there is nothing for bow besides Dex

so you can somewhat build for both

[raven wave]

i guess yea

just rather have other stats

claws are decent tho

[serene crane]

Smoke blades is ezpz damage

[raven wave]

if u can get high lp

o shit yea

i forgot about smoke blades

ok thats very viable indeed

ill check my stash for old bows to try

all this is reliant on getting a good corruption ofc lol

[serene crane]

Yea pretty much 😄

[raven wave]

and even if it doesnt do much dmg u can consider going shock

to get more stuns

ms kinda relies on them

[serene crane]

Alright, I had like 12 Omnis for Nemesis and it all bricked into crap affixes... 💀

[raven wave]

gg

[serene crane]

Not even the dumb Shade is showing up as a random encounter... meanwhile at 100c I got him like 7 times in the first timeline

t6, but still maybe I sould've havoc it to t6 throw, but well, it is what it is now

[wary cedar]

havoc?

[serene crane]

To swap from t6 hybrid to t6 throw instead? Wdym havoc?

[raven wave]

corrupted

[clever stone]

hi guys does anyone know if there is a guide out somewhere of this build? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Hyakushiki/character/RX-105

[topaz schooner]

its just a generic shadow rend cascade build

theres dozens of build guides on it

[raven wave]

maxroll, and thedarkomen on youtube have builds for it

ye ^

[topaz schooner]

can play it 10 different ways

[raven wave]

might be the first season i dont play cascade, too meta now

[wary cedar]

but it's corrupted?

[raven wave]

B(

[topaz schooner]

i think he meant before

[raven wave]

hes saying he should have done it before lo

obviously

[serene crane]

Thats why I wrote "should've" like before my smooth shiny pretty brain corrupted it

[topaz schooner]

are you playing bladestorm?

[serene crane]

Nah I swapped BS to Shift

[topaz schooner]

ah just doing cascade then

i wana see if someone has had luck with shuriken bladestorm

it seems.. underwhelming

yet all these youtube vids talk about how broken it is

but their footage is at 500c

[raven wave]

seen a falconer kill uber with it

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

surprise

but ye that is all youtube vids

i wanted to try the part where it can proc explosivetrap > into flask

but again that will probably be better on falconer than BD

[serene crane]

I dont really play the same build as others, even tho its very close 😄 I just focus on shadow daggers instead, so umbrals to apply SD, shift for recalls, recalled umbrals have chance to respawn shadows

[topaz schooner]

i'm doing SD still, havent decided on what to swap to

i will say tho tabi is pretty nuts for SD procs with rend

[raven wave]

rend without cascade is actually pretty good too

and fun

[wary cedar]

one question:
does this trigger this

asking because i was thinking to do a throwing build one day

[serene crane]

If the dagger hits it, yea

[wary cedar]

we re so in boys

[serene crane]

BS+shuriken shield is quite good combo tho, even for bleed 😄 you just need something to sustain the mana... what could be cool is 2x t7 throw+mana on rings; -1 from BD passive and Mountains boots and the BS nodes where you throw Umbrals into BS to make it bigger, stronger faster... with all that Umbrals should be 0 mana for sapping strikes

[topaz schooner]

dont you have to do flow for that to work

[raven wave]

u dont have to do flow for anything to work

dont get that question lol

[serene crane]

Misha plays with Flow and cascade for 9s boss dummy kill... but its cascade so the damage is just wild

[topaz schooner]

i was watching someone running rend only and he said without flow his dps is really low

it is double damage

[wary cedar]

ah yes, the intended way of using the timeglass fragments

[serene crane]

Whats the ratio for bones? I bought one and forgot...

[wary cedar]

1400 - 1700 or something

yo what

he locked me out

[cyan wren]

Absolutely no way to scale dots in this game. Every DOT i tried is zdps even with max gear.

and dont play Bees they do no dmg.

[serene crane]

It do bee like that...

[unique umbra]

Sad this is bugged right now and won't let me go to 10 shadows.

[crimson latch]

im kinda lost how do i reach the new pinnacle? where the shop is and etc

[wary cedar]

on the map

ty for reading my guide

[crimson latch]

what map? also i saw a omen woven echo, there the hell i can get that?

[wary cedar]

monos

[serene crane]

Thank you John Maxroll

[wary cedar]

in the middle

[gleaming rampart]

Someone play bladestorm bladedancer? someone recommend the build

[gleaming rampart]

I just created a new alt rogue wondering which build is mostly recommended

[tidal cliff]

Friends, can someone explain to me why is Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros good for a low-life bladestorm build (Lizard's off of Maxroll)? I understand the 20% increased health implicit, but then he mentions that the Strength it has is good, but none of our skills scale with Strength...

None of the other affixes on it make any sense to me.

[wary cedar]

it's just a stat stic

Strenght gives armor

it's just the best option if there are no good options for a build

[wet bear]

sounds good, what would you recommend starting with before rend?

not sure if i will play cof or go mg again this season

[serene crane]

I got big damage weapon and like 45% mana regen amulet so it was managable to 2-shot most of the stuff or just wait a lil bit for mana

[wet bear]

hmm oki

i was considering maybe just playing cascades until i have the items to transition (if cascade is still viable)

[wary cedar]

i wouldnt recommend cascade, it's to strong

[wet bear]

i saw smk onetapping uberroth

aslong its not THAT strong

[wary cedar]

its close

[wet bear]

so shadow rend is weaker?

[wary cedar]

no

not really

[wary cedar]

according to max roll both are in S Tier

so if you want something overpowered go for it

[wet bear]

not sure how acurate maxroll is

[supple flicker]

deadass? I thought falconer was the worst before clearing ubberoth at 2 min now people can 1 tap?

[wary cedar]

falconer is straight up not balanced

[supple flicker]

wasnt it nerfed?

[wary cedar]

😂

[supple flicker]

It got nerfed before i stopped playing

[serene crane]

Remember when they were nerfing falconer before 1.2? And then added unique amulet that boosted their damage even more?

[supple flicker]

I dont remember, but the last time i quit before was a leak that falconer was gonna get nerfed lmao

so did they make falconer much more busted or what

[serene crane]

Yeah, the only proper nerf would be remove that spec from the game

[supple flicker]

331 days ago

does these carry over on the seasonal char

or is these just for this legacy

lowkey forgot

[serene crane]

What would be the point if it got carried to season? season is fresh start of everything

[supple flicker]

Alright

[supple flicker]

Whats the name of the amulet?

[serene crane]

Inheritance of the Erased

t7 throw damage, other damage stuff and guess who gets it? The birb

[supple flicker]

I guess the build didnt change

just the skills

some changes

[wet bear]

what is this omen thing lol (im lvl 10)

t7 dex at lvl 10 sounds crazy to me lol

[wary cedar]

omen is new in s4, they re good early game, but lowkey suck endgame

[serene crane]

either dropped by Omen guys and you can use Corrupt rune on pretty much any gear... and it has a chance to, well, somehow change the item 😄 add it affix, make all the rolls maximum... or minimum...change it to another crap item, chance to make the item so you cant even equip it... there is whole bunch of list of things

[wet bear]

holy cow

so more gamba

[serene crane]

If you get a legendary, you can also corrupt it... it can get another affix (that purple one) and it pretty much counts as 2LP, so you can save the crap ones and use them in Strife woven echo to reroll other 2LPs

[dusty olive]

I dont even wnat to think about how many good items I might have missed. I didnt have 1h maces showing in my filter

[sage canyon]

https://youtu.be/XnDRKxCFOgo

[serene crane]

He got a heart attack 💀

[dusty olive]

what boots is everyone runni

what happened to that uberroth??

[sage canyon]

6 sec ubver kill on endgame gear ez

[serene crane]

Umbrals 😄

[sage canyon]

umbral blade recall

[dusty olive]

oh

[wary cedar]

@dusty olive can you say "uwu" for me?

[dusty olive]

no?

[wary cedar]

sadge

[tidal cliff]

Thanks! I guess it would maybe make sense to then get an Artifice of Devastation for the Throwing increase, or some such.

[gleaming rampart]

So rend and cascade are way better than bladestorm?

do you need to snapshot for cascade?

[wary cedar]

😂

[unique umbra]

holy crap. wow i was just about to dump all my corrupts. glad i saw this

[dusty olive]

what sort of gear do you have to do damage like that, thats crazy!

[half nova]

Iirc blues can still kill but just slower

[sage canyon]

just 1 t7+t5's and 1-2lp gear only amulet 3lp cause its free

[sage canyon]

its fixed lol

rerad the node again

[dusty olive]

have you got a builder link?

[sage canyon]

it in the video description lol

[robust pasture]

season 2: umbral blades doing 1bn dps with 1lp gear and instantly killing uberoth. season 4: umbral blade recall doing 1bn damage with 1lp gear and instantly killing uberoth. that's just great

[wary cedar]

gameplay as intended from ehg

[sage canyon]

but now it also has 7kj ward, 5k armor, 15k dodge, offscreen clear and double silver shroud

xdd

[serene crane]

Alriiight alriiiight, calm down, since you keep asking for it, EHG will nerf... marksman

[wary cedar]

finally

i can die in piece

[robust pasture]

i dont think you want to die pieces. maybe in peace though.

[unique umbra]

I was trying to figure out how you popped him for 305M...then I saw this.

[wary cedar]

no no piece is right

like thanos snap

shattered in small pieces

[serene crane]

Death by 42069 heartseeker recurves

[robust pasture]

shadow rend generating 8k+ ward per second and triggering 18 different effects at zero mana cost. meanwhile mage is out there paying 120% mana costs for every trigger lmao

[wary cedar]

have you ever met a multishot player?

[robust pasture]

i dont understand, so im gonna say no!

[wary cedar]

(they need to stand still to shot)

[robust pasture]

smh

[serene crane]

t6 from Omen, thats gonna be just fine for the start

[wary cedar]

what you starting

[serene crane]

Nothing yet just thinking about something whenever I get bored with Rend SD

either some lighting shuriken MM or maybe I try how Rend feels with bleed

[oblique iron]

incredible

[wary cedar]

now do it with heartseeker

[oblique iron]

can anyone help - i am following the shadow rend guide on maxroll and he is sustaining like 15k ward in the video. i have the same exact gear as the planner (T7 ward gained on shadow creation chest reforged) but am only sustaining around 5-6k ward. am i lacking too much melee attack speed maybe?

[sage canyon]

yes speed is the king

[oblique iron]

thanks. so try to get T7 melee attack speed on both weapons and gloves basically?

[sage canyon]

not on gloves but wep yes

[zenith rivet]

Is heal on hit different from leech? if i have 100% crit chance with peak does the no leech apply to any healt on hit i might have?

[serene crane]

Hit will heal you anyway, crit or not, with leech or without, still the same number

[zenith rivet]

so playing Flow with Low Life would be always problematic unless i use Stonefists

[serene crane]

Well you would still get health from Flow because thats health on hit, Stonefists only turn off healing from leech

[zenith rivet]

yeah i remembered that wrong

but so far it doesn seem to be a problem, i do heal up a bit but not enough to get me out of LL

or more accuratelly doesnt get Deaths Door to drop off

[ashen rampart]

hey, the build that you posted about in YTB for the shadow rend, is it able to clear maps and such ?

[sage canyon]

ye its same clear as any othger shdow rend throwing

[wary cedar]

is this tuff?

[ashen rampart]

it looks way tankier

and easy enough to build and kill uber

[sage canyon]

itemization is still ass but ye much easier uber

[ashen rampart]

well i have this chest

i think its good enough for start

[serene crane]

Definitely

Just get big attack speed; can get damage on helmet pretty easily

Well, I almost one-cycled Lagoon at 1370corr... 25% of the last ward left

[grim island]

Does the 1% damage per 1% move speed scaling from Agility (Rogue tree) and Vaion's Chariot (Boots) stack? (e.g., at 100% MS, do I get 200% total generic increased damage?) Also, does this damage apply to shadows?

[dusky current]

Does anyone know if the shadow rend build is viable on the steam deck endgame? Wasn't sure if it tanked the fps too much?

[serene crane]

@wary cedar do you know If this would count as you critting to proc the shuriken corruption?

[wary cedar]

the shuri affix doesnt specifi on directly used bow crits

so that should work

[serene crane]

Hmmmm, might be cool 🤔

[wary cedar]

def would need smoke bomb and dark arrow with Shadow generation

[serene crane]

Yea smoke bomb is 100% bis... I was even thinking about the Doppel set

I was thinking about this with the lightning shurikens, but no idea If that lightning pen would count for the procced shurikens... it doesnt really say anything about the throw/bow skill to be used by you directly

[wary cedar]

yap would count

i also considered this quiver once

but once again no good way to cast a lot of lightning bow attacks fast

maybe shadow rend but idk

but also shadow rend bow would just proc less shurikens

[serene crane]

Isnt Heartseeker pretty spammy? and pretty much critting all the time so every shuriken would get that pen

[wary cedar]

Good Sir

i m sorry to tell you

but Heartseeker is no Lightning Bow attack

[serene crane]

ah

right

WELP, rip that...

[wary cedar]

once again wished that they would ve implemented more conversion affxies for all elements with corrupted affixes

would ve been so cool

we still having TWO void themed quivers with not one void bow attack

[serene crane]

like... with basically entire universe beyond consumed by the void, pretty much every spec should have some dip into void conversion

[wary cedar]

maybe we should investigate in detonating arrow again, i never played it, but there gotta be a way to cast good amount of shuriken with it

if yes it could be something

[wary cedar]

i would just love dmg typ conversion for all weapons for all elements with the corrupted affixes
would open up so many builds
hence this season again feels pretty uninteresting and static

[serene crane]

Same, Ive only lvled up with Puncture as MM Deto arrow can give you 8mana on hit so it should be easy to possibly sustain shurikens or whatever

[wary cedar]

if you can get 100% up time of that lightning pen from the quiver

maybe i need to try it one day xd

[serene crane]

After I finish my daily quests in another game I log back in LE, farm another Omnis (got like 13th bricked today by Nemesis, this one even naturally rolled with +2 and 35+ on every resist and of course the game laughed in my face and corruption gave it max rolls 🤡 )

and then I start MM 😄

[wary cedar]

daily quests in another game sounds like Gacha Slop to me

[serene crane]

With all this Nemesis and corruption gambling, LE might turn into gacha aswell...

[wary cedar]

You can challenge the Shade of Orobyss once per Week
To claim Loot of a Timeline Boss you need to spend energy

[serene crane]

tbh I serioulsy think I ran out of some kind of energy... I almost stopped getting Shade ambushes in echoes, it happnes so rarely now 😄

[wary cedar]

F

i m definitly running out of motivation somewhat

[serene crane]

Thats just the difficult life of marksman

[wary cedar]

one problem i m having is ember echos or what they re called

woven echos are so expensive and grinding them feels not good

[serene crane]

I used to imprint Lostwood Folly twice and it pretty much helped with embers

[wary cedar]

well how much they give?

since one nemesis tower costs 2k or something

[serene crane]

No idea tbh, should give enough and they spawn often

[dusty olive]

how do yall get your weaver rep up?

[wary cedar]

by reading the tiptool and doing what it says

[dusty olive]

because i was definitely asking for the tooltip definition not where you farm it the fastest

[wary cedar]

i dont know where you asked whats the fastes way is xd

[brittle blaze]

go to weaver headquarters and buy out all the ones with + on them, go find a cemetary and pop them all on, then just keep doing chains you want for farming, there are some nodes on the tree to get more woven echoes to drop also. I think you get rep from enchanting idols but not 100% on that, i just send it usually anyway

[dusty olive]

is the best just doing every weaver cemetery i come across then

standard gameplay just do them all

[brittle blaze]

Yeah you want all your passive points

I try to get them done asap so I can farm the echoes I want

[dusty olive]

ive been doin the woven echoes as i get htem

im gated by rep now

[brittle blaze]

just keep slamming cemetery then and spend memory amber

there is tech I remember with fale temple and lostwood but I forget the details exactly, I have not really had issues with rep but I am always spending amber because of idols, I went a little nuts this season, was basically perma in cemetaries first few days

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane
Maybeeeeee

just 31 forgint 🙁

[serene crane]

Thats super crap for you tho

no convert of multi into pen; no bleed duration since you convert all bleed into ignite

and its only t2 champion.... it would do more damage for hits than the ignite 😄

[buoyant roost]

if I get ignite chance instead of chill, and convert crit multi into dot

• ofc add the set afix for jormund

but t2 sux for sealed sadly 🙁

[onyx rivet]

Got a new terrible project to work on... int stacking rogue

[serene crane]

Spear fire pen lets go

[onyx rivet]

Its worse

The node only works with staffs xD

[serene crane]

Eh what else is there that converts crit multi into fire pen, or wdym 😄

[serene crane]

Yes... I know... Ive looked over it few times already.. 😄

[serene crane]

I'd say ideally this? whatever suffix will be t7 is whatever, things might get funny with high attack speed too; and spamming that rift beast gang woven echo for t8 for sure

[onyx rivet]

So, i have been looking into things, something i could technically do is fire orbs and fire aura on channeled flurry

[buoyant roost]

y.... 😄

[buoyant roost]

this is IDEAL

although I cannot t8 because of the set ring sadly

[serene crane]

Did they changed how the channeled stuff works? I remember with channeled furry you cant really use some nodes that benefit from hitting enemies... idk maybe it works differently now

[serene crane]

What sets are there again? I forgot :c

[buoyant roost]

well jormund, weaver, kutos

its not kutos, but something liek that

[serene crane]

Kuzon sword/helm? 😄

[buoyant roost]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEmzjj3

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 86

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (69) / Falconer (9)

General:

▸ Health: 1,909, Regen: 18.04/s
▸ Mana: 144.44, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 60%, Regen: 33/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 53 Dex / 18 Int / 15 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 25% / 46% / 132% / 76% / 37% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 611
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (503)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (780)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Cinder Strike / Bladestorm / Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens

[buoyant roost]

Kuzon yes 😄