🔪┃rogue

[void cargo]

this was item what did

[wary cedar]

i was so confused why there is so few text on your item wtf xd

[void cargo]

fk no coruptrion when i dont have second one

bro to get this duo rolls, is like u wish u get twins

[wary cedar]

it's 33%

good odds

[topaz schooner]

@flint turret how do people farm runes of havoc in s4? I read some stuff about rift beasts being really good for them but I'm curious how it compares to weaver spamming

[cyan wren]

i dont think its 33% odds.

[void cargo]

wtf is this shitttttt

wtf

[cyan wren]

GG

thats pretty good.

[wary cedar]

does this work? xd

[cyan wren]

Ideally u'd want +1 skill but this is 2nd best for the build, i cant think of anything else.

[flint turret]

Combine both

[cyan wren]

maybe maxroll.

[topaz schooner]

does that one method i found still work where you get a bunch of generic rune rewards and complete it inside a tomb? was dropping like 5+ havocs in s2 with that, but was aids to find generic rune for it

[flint turret]

Doesn't have to be a tomb they drop everywhere afaik

[quartz gust]

If I was told I had a 33% chance of survival doing X, I would not call it good odds xD

[wary cedar]

this aint survival, this is an arpg

[topaz schooner]

i didnt drop fk all for havoc when i did it outside tombs so they must have changed it in s3

[quartz gust]

Sure but if he doesn't have a replacement it's not really worth it

[topaz schooner]

do you get a lot of havoc runes from rune reward monos at high corruption?

[cyan wren]

high corruption drops heaps of runes and glyphs.

Much more than lower.

it just keeps shitting out runes and glyphs and u have to wait.

[quartz gust]

Oh noes, I guess that's that then XD

[cyan wren]

Sometimes i pick up too fast i have to run back and pick it up the rest.

[quartz gust]

I died doing Omen's Veil

[cyan wren]

cause it didnt finish dropping.

[quartz gust]

Guess I have no reason not to reroll on SC now xD

Did not expect it to be so rippy

[wary cedar]

ayo

[cyan wren]

how tf did u hit 2 T7 at first place.

[wary cedar]

i m on legacy

old imprints

[cyan wren]

oh.

[wary cedar]

waiting for the day imprints are good again lol

[cyan wren]

Double exalteds are almost non existent on bazar.

[wary cedar]

i got some when i played in league

[cyan wren]

I have to slam my 3LPS with most dog shit possible.

[wary cedar]

to chase them you just spam nemesis tower

[cyan wren]

I mean double exalteds that are usable.

Well if its they're that good bazar would be flooded with them.

[wary cedar]

CoF >>>>

[topaz schooner]

Did they gut imprinting double exalted in s3?

[wary cedar]

no, but in s4

[topaz schooner]

ah they changed it this season?

[wary cedar]

that's what i said, yes

[topaz schooner]

Yeah that's called clarification, acknowledgment

[dusty olive]

The developer the responded to me is unsure if doppleganger relic and shadow rend respawn shadows stack or trigger separately

[topaz schooner]

it's a thing you do in the english language

[wary cedar]

and i clarificated your request of clarification

[topaz schooner]

I acknowledge your clarification of my request for clarification

I acknowledged your clarification of my request for clarification twice, with a thumbs up, just for good measure.

[kind adder]

Get a room

[wary cedar]

i don't consent to this

max roll omnis

[serene crane]

Damn nice 😄

[wary cedar]

i m only missing the chest plate then my build is adapted for the new stuff x)

[topaz schooner]

that corruption result is insane

[keen ginkgo]

anyone got a good lethal mirage build ?

[storm lantern]

I raise you min rolled omnis

[wary cedar]

yoo i was actually trying to get this one xd

[undone spear]

yo chat

anyone know what heartseeker this guy is playing

is it cold or fire

[whole valley]

any build recommendations for my first hardcore rogue ever ? 😄 (also first hc char ever, so no alt gear)

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Hema_/character/S4hema

[undone spear]

Bro how did you find that so fast

[wary cedar]

it's like 5 clicks or something

on letools

[viscid oxide]

Is Bleed Falconer dealing good DPS?

[undone spear]

I love you thank you

[serene crane]

Its fun, but not exactly the easiest to put together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM-UkpZpXZg

If you dont have anything, I was starting with shadow daggers, Puncture was enough to do the job in the early game, now lvling with Bladestorm should be easier too; grind Lagoon's harbringer until you get Black Blade of Chaos, hope for good rolls=>Nemesis=>LP slam/Corruption, hope for good rolls again

[kind adder]

Is this common on MG? To have that many items at 4LP?

[wary cedar]

there are no 4lp in the build of this guy

[distant pewter]

Hear me out: Torkrefin's hunger bladestorm bleed. I had a build last season and it was decent. But tbh I haven't looked into the new bladestorm much. Is there any potential there?

[flint turret]

Zhp hs mm on 4500 corr sounds like torture ngl

But I respect the dedication

Unless it's some bug that allows him to do insane damage I'm not aware of

[keen marten]

hey guys, QQ - I'm doing the maxroll low life bladestorm rogue. lifesteal doesnt do anything for the build right? or does it then get lost and generate more ward? its been a few seasons so I'm way behind on mechanics

[wary cedar]

i m guessing that build uses astral blood, and this item gives ward based on missing health

so if you do regenrate red life the ward per seconds goes down

[keen marten]

yep , thats what I'm using

ok so not only does it not help. but it hurts the build?

[distant pewter]

Yes, you actively don't want to leech

[keen marten]

awesome ,ty! yeah some of the interactions get so confusing

[signal heart]

The "Sapping Strikes" passive that says "You regain mana if you hit with a skill that has 0 Mana cost." - Does this work with Throwing Skills that are artificially reduced to 0 Cost through "-MP Cost on throwing Skills" effects on rings?

[keen marten]

i tried to use Artifice of Devastation and that thing just destroys your mana. wish there was a way to turn off the trap component

[kind adder]

Uhhh... he has a 4LP Snowblind, Elecoe's, Troaka's, and Stormhide Paws

[cyan wren]

thats not 4LP. thats 2-3LP items thats corrupted.

[kind adder]

The Troaka's and elecoes and snowblind are not corrupted

At least not according to that link

[wary cedar]

uuuuuuuuhm nooooo... those are all corrupted lp3 items 🤓☝️

[kind adder]

See above

[wary cedar]

it's just ui error

i had the same when importing my builds

[kind adder]

Ah

Nvm then

[cyan wren]

actually imperssive he's playing self cast heartseeker.

and zhp that high.

[wary cedar]

his dps must be garbage for 4k corruption tho

most likley just sitting back and killing enemies an entire screen away

[cyan wren]

well thats for every build that high.

[iron crane]

Hows the clearing speed of falconer?

[cyan wren]

ballista kills 2 screens away because u place them at the edge of screen.

best.

[iron crane]

Falconer good at clearing and bossing? Planning to switch from bladestorm shuriken bladedancer.

[cyan wren]

both are good for clear and bossing.

Falconer is just better high corruption if you can handle zhp.

[wary cedar]

falconer is the class you play when you dont want to actually play

[cyan wren]

bladedancer is more all rounder (defence and dmg).

3k corruption harbinger on Bladedancer.

[rigid stratus]

skill bar seems too complicated =/ impossibly hard to play

[cyan wren]

yep. Thats already too many buttons. Imagine the rotation to handle.

[iron crane]

Wow

[iron crane]

Show some uber clips

[undone spear]

@wary cedar yo

[undone spear]

does the freeze rate multiplier on mourning frost boots matter for heartseeker

like the %

[cyan wren]

I will on this build later.

[wary cedar]

no, but the 150 added spell and attack cold dmg does xd

[rigid stratus]

@cyan wren u like that fire rend build more than the dancing blades one?

[cyan wren]

Yes thats why I switched. Dancing Strike was fun for an hour then u start feeling the clunkiness with animations.

Get stuck on terrain and shit.

and rend scales better.

[rigid stratus]

yea i just don't know how i feel about the fire rend, seems like a lot of screen cancer... but i guess if you don't have to manually dodge stuff a lot then it doesn't matter too too much

[cyan wren]

at least rn, we'll have to wait if somebody finds some crazy interactions with shurikens to outdeal shadows.

yeah its tanky so u dont have to worry most of the time whats happening on screen.

[rigid stratus]

i'm addicted to these corrupt spam rings lol i've found a few ones that are "useable" and i see the potential for better 👀

loving this league so far ^^

i'm wanting to get a ring with like ~5 all att, ~7 dex+dodge, t7 dex, and then "crit multi + crit chance per dex"... and then any other icing on the cake i guess lol

i ALMOST had it but rolled off the dex + dodge and then bricked it b4 getting it 😩 lol

[serene crane]

Are you playing the phys crit cascade one I guess?

[rigid stratus]

can u link your profile so i can creep on the fire rend?

[dusty olive]

I need something to slam this in to oh my

[dense ravine]

i think i can crit

maybe

[stable quiver]

Do shadows cast skills triggered by Hydra Arc?

[normal remnant]

can someone explain something to me about set items please?

[dusty olive]

Would Eye of Reen be the best sword to slam that into?

[normal remnant]

How do I get a set affix into a regular item like this? is it even possible? Not sure if im explaining it correctly, hopefully that makes sense

[wary cedar]

shatter the set item to get the rune for crafting it

[rigid stratus]

there is a woven echo that lets you shatter set items

[normal remnant]

OH! thank you for the information.

[wary cedar]

no need to thank me. you can pay me instead

[normal remnant]

bruh im poor

[wary cedar]

then how could you afford the game 🤨

[serene crane]

Show us your MTX collection right now

[wary cedar]

and how is he even playing it?! no money = no pc

[rugged hinge]

not horrible I guess

[iron crane]

Thats why i want to switch. I guess ill go for the rend one.

[serene crane]

Hmmm... surely it could be for some falconer Bs build 🤔

[wary cedar]

no

lol

maybe for leveling

[lusty wagon]

CRAFT today

[serene crane]

Extra points in Falconery wouldnt be good? 😄

lmao, poor Shade spawned right in the middle of my 41876871371 shadow daggers flying right in his face

[rigid stratus]

1 dex skills hurts but maybe 4lp inc? 👀

[wide yacht]

i have one that he bricked with 3 affixes

time to gamble it

[keen marten]

as low life blade dancer, do i basically not want to ever use potion bc it reduces my ward/s? or do i still use them as an ohshit when my ward gets super low?

the astral blood mechanics are confusing af to me

[serene crane]

Yea you pretty much done care about potions unless you can get affix that converts health from potion to ward

[keen marten]

got it, thx

[serene crane]

should be easy to find If you can fit it in your setup

[keen marten]

oh good call

thx

[rigid stratus]

are the omen's veil echos harder / more rewarding if you use them in higher than 100 corruption or are they always 100 corruption?

[rugged hinge]

dex skills +1 rip

[stable quiver]

How is multishot?

[keen marten]

what's best way to use imprinting to get a red ring (or at least increase chances)? I can put any silver ring in that weaver spot in top right and it counts as 'similar' yeah?

[lusty wagon]

sqd

sad

[serene crane]

also sad... lol, I still go to 4-4.5k ward

[lusty wagon]

its a small sad this

[serene crane]

Being a small sad in a world of big sad, nobody can see you being sad

[wary cedar]

mam, this is a wendy's

[serene crane]

80 Dusk Shroud stacks, 80% dodge... no bad... still gotta get that ward on shadow tho...

[dusty olive]

Why is this sad? Looks great?

[junior oriole]

damnit..ruined my omnis:(

what are the chances that rare uniques have a higher chance of bricking? just to mess with us

[crimson latch]

i love corrupting set items somemtimes is just amazing

[hasty leaf]

Hi, the Ballista build is still viable?

[jaunty glen]

Alloy Animation worth it?

[steady cypress]

still S tier

I tested that

have not tested explosive ballista yet

[vivid cypress]

what is the optimal rotation on falconer ballista to keep up silver shrouds, or just smoke bomb when there is a lot of enemies?

[vivid cypress]

Somehow still god tier doing like 20x better tahn almost every spec lol

I never played it tho but want to now maybe

[errant pollen]

Running a low HP, health drain to ward build. Is having a lot of health recovery bad for the setup?

[junior oriole]

typically in these builds you want to stay low life so yes you need to disable all sources of health gain as much as you can

[daring trench]

how do you guys go about getting good exalteds with the set affixes you want?

[junior oriole]

that's the real struggle...in the past seasons imprints were the way to go but they nerfed them

but learning to correctly use havoc/redemption is important

[steady cypress]

okay in this season is heartseeker better than hoa?

[undone spear]

which chest armor is tankier, core of the mountain or wings of discord

i cant tell

what would b better

i feel like i would want the dodge rating more

[vivid cypress]

so for falconer i really dont need any defenses? seems nuts?

[kind adder]

Is falconer still best class for umbral blades? Or is BD viable now too? @flint turret

[steady cypress]

some guys 3 sec uberroth with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMKUJWvTch0

[vivid cypress]

can silver shroud stop dot dmg? how do falconers deal w/ dots at this insane corr lvls

[iron crane]

is it okay if my shurikens got converted to lightning as a dancing strike bladestorm shuriken build? will it have any negative effects on the build? i got an idol that convert the shuriken to lightning

[jaunty glen]

I’m pretty sure you’ll scale less and do less damage since I’m assuming you’re scaled for phys

[iron crane]

ahhh i see thanks

[jaunty glen]

I've really liked playing Dancing Strike Shuriken/Bladestorm but I feel like I nothing changes from levelling to build completion once you have Dancing Strikes online

I guess there's low life switch but gameplay looks and feels the same from like level 40 onwards haha

[fallow verge]

Anyone got a shadow dagger penetration idol and can test if tooltip change by chance ? 😊

[dusty olive]

Anyone know how Shadow Cascade crit chance calculates with Blade Rush?

lastepochtools tells me i have 74% actual crit but thats not counting the 9% base crit from shadow abilities and the 45% more and 45% more from Blade Rush

so I might be way over cap?

[serene crane]

Definitely yes

[iron crane]

ikr thats why im thinking to change to fire rend

[desert oasis]

hello guys heartseeker is good build?

for end game

[dusty olive]

oooh im up to 8k ward and 1.5mil tooltip DPS for shadow cascade

heck yeah

[serene crane]

Huuuge 😄 have you tried Uber already?

[dusty olive]

not yet

think im doin enuf to get him?

[serene crane]

No idea, its worth trying 😄

[dusty olive]

I'll probably finish what I'm doing at the moment then give it a try

[rigid stratus]

i respec'd my build for the uber 1 shot and can't get him past like 39% lol oof 😩 too broke to respec back so just gotta farm glass cannon now lol

feelsbadman

i'm not sure if it's gear issue or skill issue

[serene crane]

I'll have to look for some t7 ward on shadow and ideally with SD pen aswell, I might've ran out of them... damage is pretty great, survival is decent but that giga ward is just too much to skip

[hallow apex]

What build is this?

[pale panther]

Hello 🙂 Im playing bladestorm build but cant afford Omnis. You think the next best option is a nihilis?

[rocky nova]

how is this #1 marksman player at 5k

no way his their dps is high enough to clear quickly

i guess very safe and patient play

[rocky nova]

omnis and nihilis are pretty similar yeah

[serene crane]

Both can have some wild roll ranges, both with 1-2 to skills, unless you need good rolls for resistances from Omnis, I'd just stick to Nihilis... less all-resists, but bunch of other good stuff

[rocky nova]

A perfect nihilis is better regardless

but very difficult to roll well since it can go negative so straight up brick you

[undone spear]

damn heartseeker does baby damage compared to the top rogue builds

it needs a buff

[wary cedar]

is think heartseeker is perfectly balanced (no joke)

other builds are just op

[undone spear]

true

[wary cedar]

heartseeker needs really good investment to kill uber, and i think that 's how it should be for every build

the build is also very flexible with a lot of options

[undone spear]

eh

its cold rn

tbh

cold is just the best way to go

[wary cedar]

i m still missing some items for mine, but at the end i will cast
shadow rend - multishot - shurikens - dragonfire - iceciles
while only shooting heartseeker and dashing with shadow rend lmao

[serene crane]

You could also take a look at Swine amulets, not all on them is useful for rogue since its acolyte item, but some solid resists+vitality+all stats and a bit easier to get with LP, should be cheaper to buy than Nihlis/Omnis... just no +1-2 to skills... but you might get lucky with some corrupted amulet tho, even tho thats random to get a good one

[pale panther]

Thanks!

[undone spear]

that sounds fun

[rocky nova]

corrupting nihilis is also a great way to get a good one btw

same for omnis

i made like 10 of these with t7 throwing

and just corrupted all of them until one hit "max all rolls"

[wary cedar]

idk if it's going to be good tho xd
but dmg wise should be fine

[serene crane]

Get to corruption 200+, get the Shade ambush node from Weaver tree and you can also "farm" it while mapping on the side... its a solid little thing... then just Nemesis towers, hope for 1LP+, t7 slam, gamble with corruption, ezpz

[serene crane]

If I get some good bow/quiver with the shuriken corruption I might try it with bleed... I dont expect some crazy numbers, but it might be funny 😄

[undone spear]

@wary cedar im cookin

[serene crane]

also, Heartseeker should be a bit stronger now than in 1.2 with the idols/gear, right 🤔

[wary cedar]

in terms of you just copying the standard guide build? xd

[rigid stratus]

anyone bored and would want to carry an uber abby? :3

[undone spear]

lmao yes!

im having fun tho

i have this and shadow cascade bd

heartseeker is lowkey the most fun for me

i just rly like the recurve animation

[wary cedar]

that's my current character, i still need to change some uniques there (chest plate, amulet, maybe belt) and then get overall better stats on them
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXzj7GV6

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (5) / Marksman (71) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,801, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Mana: 180.91, Regen: 12.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 62%, Regen: 102/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 153 Dex / 14 Int / 14 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / -46% / 122% / -28% / 106% / 79% / 84%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 601
▸ Dodge Chance: 42% (1516)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (537)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Shurikens / Dark Quiver / Shadow Rend / Multishot

[wary cedar]

i always end up on using dragonsong with heratseeker since my playstyle is just always staying inside the enemies lol

[undone spear]

god damn 4lp boots

ur crazy

[wary cedar]

3 lp corrupted

but don't let the items fool you, it's legacy character, hence i got some better gear there already xd

[serene crane]

oh you got the corrupt on the bow, huge 😄 also 3LP Wall and Nihilis is pretty wild... I was barely getting lucky with 2LP Walls, but Ive spent most of the time farming Chaos blades and turtling/egging them, which is legit pain

[wary cedar]

those are also corrupted, but since they got a standard affix the UI doesnt know the difference somehow

[cyan wren]

Shadow Rend BD.

[dusty olive]

jesus CHRIST the loot explosion doing the omen thing you buy with the timeglass fragments

that is so much loot

[wary cedar]

like there 's no way if i would get lp3 wall and put +1 Level of Trap there xd
i will change chestplate to Astral Blood when i find a 2lp one so i can slam, to enable the low life for the quiver

[serene crane]

I was enjoying the puncture pops flying everywhere, it looked pretty funny 😄 now I roll with Rend shadow daggers and Cascade with Dagger Dance and the daggers are just flying everywhere

[serene crane]

so the trap is from corruption? Its weird it doesnt show as corrupted item like the other items... hopefully they add some icon to the corrupted affix there

[wary cedar]

since it's some standard affix

all my gear is corrupted

[bronze birch]

If I wanna try new relic is it like regular bladestorm build but replace skilled synchro strike with explosive trap and use smoke bombs for shadows?

[terse bloom]

https://youtu.be/nMOFSg6jVIg

MA dive bomb + shadow rend idea

[serene crane]

Poor toucan is working unpaid overtime...

[wary cedar]

@serene crane do you know how i can calculate spell cooldown with the cooldown recovery i got?

[serene crane]

Idk about replacing sync strike, what else you got there? Also smoke bomb as traversal is nice + smoke bomb is throwing skill itself so you get extra points from the relic

[serene crane]

Do you mean the usual cdr form gear for your skills? 😄

[wary cedar]

ya i m kinda confused

like my cooldown is 3.5 sec

and the cooldown recovery in my planner is 160%

how much cooldown does this make at the end?

i feel like 100% means i have no cooldown anymore math wise, but feels wrong game wise

[serene crane]

I guess planner wont show the new cooldown in skills... 100% cdr just makes the old cooldown to be a half of it

[wary cedar]

ye it doesnt show xd

[bronze birch]

shuriken, bladestorm, trap, smoke bomb, shift?

[wary cedar]

but ye half of it what i think as well
so 160% on 3.5sec would make it 0.7sec then

[serene crane]

If the original cooldown is 3.5s, with 160% cdr it should be 2.1s? 🤔 my brain is too smooth and shiny for math

[hallow apex]

got a planner by any chance? 🙂

[serene crane]

right, ofc my number doesnt make sense to what I wrote 2minutes ago

[wary cedar]

how can it be more than half when you say 100% halfes it xd

lmao

[bronze birch]

@serene crane or actually, maybe net instead of shift? hmm

[wary cedar]

smooth brainer fr

[bronze birch]

shift just for zoom zoom and mana restore seems nice tho

[wary cedar]

but my math is also wrong ig, since that would make it 0sec cd with 200%

[serene crane]

If you go traversal smoke bomb, I'd just throw shift away... what I did on my bleed bladestorm, I took Net which is 6mana, got -1mana cost to throw in Bladedancer passive, t7 for -5cost, so Net is 0mana, Sapping Strikes from Rogue and suddenly your Net is keeping you pretty much full mana while maintaining Bladestorm with shurikens and explo trap and while you keep hitting enemies

[bronze birch]

and bonus smoke bomb from net?

[serene crane]

ah, yep... its not really "bonus" smoke bomb, when you Net with that smoke bomb trait it'll still go on cooldown, but having Smoke as traversal gives it 50% less cooldown, so its more spammable... and you can still use smoke bomb as traversal to just jump across the entire screen

[serene crane]

eh, google says 2.1s... maybe that 100% halving it is not right? 🤔 3hard5me

[wary cedar]

no i asked in general

they could answer

i tried to find out how low you can get shift cooldown

but 1.34 sec still seems quite high

and i calced how much my shadow rend cooldown would be with Guile, 1.44sec, that's fine ig

[serene crane]

Alright I see 🤔 looks good then 😄

[bronze birch]

sounds good, also what do you recommend going for with rune of ascendance? traitor tongue and claws?

[rocky nova]

just on the floor as 2 LP lol, don't think i've ever gotten that as a raw drop at 2

[jagged sedge]

Is it just me or is it hard to find an exalted critical strike chance affix on rings? I've gotten thousands of rings without any

[serene crane]

off-hand Tongue yea If you go for crits, main hand the Primordial Jaw looks pretty great

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeYJ57am so far 🙂

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 77

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (57) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,598, Regen: 16.78/s
▸ Mana: 129.89, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 47 Dex / 13 Int / 10 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 20% / 41% / 87% / 69% / 25% / 58%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 320
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (509)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (628)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Cinder Strike / Bladestorm / Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens

[buoyant roost]

the mapping is great, bossing a bit slow. but I guess most of the DoT builds stuggle a bit with bossing.

[serene crane]

So far looks good 😄 mixing CS is interesting, Oil Coating is nice but probably something to drop later

[buoyant roost]

it's mostly for mana sustain, it can get hungry at points

but easil gets to like 500-600 ignite stacks with around 1000 damage ignite, which is I guess decent

[serene crane]

Yea sounds alright 😄 with 4 more points it could be worth trying getting Cascade so DS procs it and it refunds some mana, but idk... dumb DS need sto many points...

Ive actually even dropped exalted axe yesterday with I think t7 %DoT and sealed champion affix that converts 100% bleed chance to ignite with %fire DoT, gonna post it later when I get back home 😄 might be worth to swap and get some crafted Jormund belt

[buoyant roost]

gimme

but I think i Need t7 bleed on hit or ignite on hit. that's my main source of ignite stacks

what are you playing now btw?

[serene crane]

Sadly Im only rolling CoF legacy, so no fancy season trading for me 😄

[buoyant roost]

me too 😄 it was my envy getting out the best of me

[serene crane]

Shadow Rend with shadow daggers

[buoyant roost]

care to share? I love examining builds 😄

oh btw check that Idol on my build to the far right. Max dodge max health rolls. Crazy. Wish I could rune of Creation it 🙁

[serene crane]

If you'd manage to replace Jormund axe with the good Champ affix one and get crafted Jormund belt... then glove slot is opened for some decent options 🤔 Falcon gloves for big attack speed and Cinder Strike points (or Wing Guards lol If you'd drop CS?); Burning Avarice is interesting; also Atrophy for the DoT penetration and Slow so you could get 3 points from Bladestorm to Strength of Arms (2/2 24% increased hit rate so should be more dot stacks)

[serene crane]

Yea I need to get lucky with the corrupted idols too... yesterday I got a first one with shadow daggers pen 30% (max is 36%) which then is boosted by the Altar 😄

[serene crane]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOwpMrwG

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 84

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (62) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 1,832, Regen: 17.76/s
▸ Mana: 151.43, Regen: 13.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 30 Str / 53 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 116% / 76% / 140% / 38% / 68% / 176%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 39%, Threshold: 366
▸ Dodge Chance: 33% (1014)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (475)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 44%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 71%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Bladestorm

[buoyant roost]

For some reason I get crit strikes in like 30ks sometimes. I guess the crit vurneability on the Jormund plays a role here. But its defintely what i'm looking for as well. If I find it, then I will think about the gloves 😄 I haven't even seen Strenght of arms lol. Thanks. Ill check this out.

Will check your build in a moment

[serene crane]

Im trying to get some crafted Abandoned ring so I can swap the amulet for Xithara (or phys Swine amulet lol, since Zerrick (2) sets curses me... free extra ward)
better helmet, I might just ditch 3/3 Doppel set, I kinda dont need it... and just ward on shadow + SD pen helmet... maybe some crafted axe and better slammed ring

[buoyant roost]

I think the Liraka's Work on Shadow Daggers

might be good for you?

[serene crane]

Yea Liraka works, used to play them with LM shadow daggers 😄 here I just havent tried them yet

[buoyant roost]

how the heck did you get LP2 Entwined 😄

and why only 2 T5s there?

[serene crane]

Have you tried dropping Disembowel from rogue, thats 8 points for 5 stacks of Ignite every 3rd strike... ditch 1/5 from Duelist and 1/5 from Shadow Master, idk about only another 6% chance for another Dusk stack... idk If Deadly Mixture is the same as global %dot like Blood Serpent's Blade; but Weapon of Choice for 20% bleed=>ignite with Axe+Sword already sounds like better value than Disembowel; also 1-1-1 points for Pulse for 100% more DoT every 5th DS hit might be quite nice? 🤔
Stamina of the Rover in falconer is something I really like for melee

[serene crane]

oh one of them is from Nemesis failed egg and other is corrupted, it just doenst show... but I got 1LP in bag, just didnt slam it yet

[north tree]

man I love congealed sludge

[serene crane]

How much ward do you usually get from Ashes ring? 😄 I forgot about it, but it looks quite cool

[north tree]

one shot my rogue no matter what

[cyan wren]

https://youtu.be/dHoKJ3sAJac

[serene crane]

Is it the green one? I hate them all

[buoyant roost]

Maybe worth it. I got disembowel right at the start, Ive gotten 20 lvls after that. With my passives, I usually when I get to like lvl90 I take a good look at those. But honestly havent thought about removing it. Ill have to test it on the dummies as to the amount of the ignite stacks I can get. Flow man... I hate this concept honestly. Makes my brain go crazy about the order of the spells, and makes me want to use them, often leading to my death 😄

Deadly mixture says - increase damage over time% not more? so was not consider it. And the threshold is for bleed/poison sadly 🙁

Weapon of choice I will get for sure. That was my plan to get the next points in, and the Outlander's Tenacity in Falconer for the endurance threshold.

[north tree]

yep

[serene crane]

The thing about Flow, at least O guess it still works the same, every stage of DS counted as a "different" skills so with spamming DS it kept cycling the Flow, I guess CS is the same unless you spec into something that limits it to "first attack only" etc

[buoyant roost]

well you get 2 ward per stack of ignite. So think about boss having 500-600 stacks, and me around 10. So thats' like 600x2 = 1200 and 10x30 = 300. Around 1500 ward every 2 seconds. I think it's great EHP

[buoyant roost]

I had no idea about that lol. That sounds crazy. But wait, if I need 5, dancing has 4 strikes right? 🙁

also reuqires 3-1-1, not 1-1-1

but if I can trigger it onyl with DS its worth it

[serene crane]

It just triggers from the 1st attack of next DS then

[undone spear]

how does that implicit work

[serene crane]

sorry, I meant this to get that lost point

[undone spear]

chance to upgrade?

[serene crane]

I think it upgrades the implicit based on how big the %upgrade is... or adds new implicit based on that... idk what implicits it can rolls tho, surely its somewhere in LE Tools

[buoyant roost]

But wait, doesnt the pulse require 3 in Flow or not?

[serene crane]

Nah that 3pt bonus would only increase the direct hit of the next skill, not DoT... but with Pulse, consuimg Flow with 5th DS hit will make the applied DoT stronger

maybe 3 points in Rhytm might be nice for the attack speed 🤔

[buoyant roost]

Are you sure it's hit only though? It says to deal more damage. That probabyl means it should also apply to any dots applied by the skill?

[serene crane]

I'd bet on it

I guess I'd personally go with this, DS might be funny with attack speed everyhwere 😄
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnagvOZK <= with idols

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (79) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 1,193, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 104.51, Regen: 9.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 9 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 2% / 7%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 418
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (316)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 8%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

None

[buoyant roost]

Is Agility 5/5 worth it over Steady Hand?

It says "increased" again 😄

Also 3 in the Critical Eye I dont think I need. have 80% less dmg from crits from boots, and I can get another 20% somewhere 😄 idols probably

Rest is though great 🙂 thanks

[rocky nova]

oops

[serene crane]

You'll most likely end up with a lot of movement speed from passives/gear which still counts to DoT, dex from Agi is for hits and evasion which should be good enough already 😄 there is always health, but could get it from other passives or gear

[serene crane]

Its either that or points in Resilience, 30% from Eye or 15% from Resi with some health

[lyric smelt]

can someone explain why rend boosted by CDR?

[serene crane]

More hits, more shadows, more damage, ah wait, nevermind... 😄

[serene crane]

And for Idols... maybe 2x2 Adorned with bleed chance for shurikens over bleed chance per sword since we only use one sword; also %increased dmg if you use sword for suffix, thats some ezpz damage; crit avo+dodge from Enchants looks like easy pick

Ornate 4x1 has a bit of bleed on hit / ignite pen with also %increase dmg with sword... some good Altar might make those really good

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane I jsut tested flow, and you indeed need 3 in Flow to start getting flow stacks. And you can't gain a 5th stack with Dancing. You get 4. But... lol. Check this out. Throwing just bladestorm on dummy with no Flow, ends up doing around 30k dots on the dummies. Using it as a 5th Flow consumer jumps to 90-100k 😮

[buoyant roost]

Idols are just a nightmare to logistic 🙁

[serene crane]

Ooh... reading is good I guess... eh I swear in 1.2 you could just rotate DS to keep the flow going... but still good tho 🤔

Bladestorm with all that dot chance is hit rate is just nice 😄 also it gets even better while they're in Smoke Bomb with the bonus chance for shurikens

[buoyant roost]

for sure. I need to solve lmy mana issues a bit though. the 4 mana consumption on bladestorm shuriken cast node just drains it over time. I guess that node you put in the Falconer will help a bit, but I think mana regen is best

[serene crane]

while lvling Rend I got mana regen on gear which helped aswell before big Cascade spamming... also some Altars can do nice thing for the mana regen, but as you said, idol logistic is hard 😄

[buoyant roost]

https://youtu.be/yQexd3CtNZk you can see here the mana spending and ward as well. One thing here I think matters on the dummies I think hit box is small so some of my shurikens are missing I think, so I get less stacks. Sometimes I get more than 600, sometimes like 300-400

[serene crane]

check the link again, I tried some idols for bleed chance/%inc dmg/fire pen/health/resists 😄 aaand I forgot about the unique idol... eh, could throw it on the right side and just use some basic 1x1
#🔪┃rogue message

[buoyant roost]

the link that you sent with passives only? I refresherd, no change in idols

[serene crane]

Idk the hitboxes of shurikens tbh, I usually try stuff on Emperor of Corpses

[serene crane]

the link in my message, not the automated

[buoyant roost]

oh man 🙁 whenever I see someone posting ideal idols, i'm like okayyy I will never get this 😄 . Although tbh I havent really done the idol focusing on prophesises yet.

but yeah those look about right

[serene crane]

Its just my casual Andy idea, Im sure some combination could do more damage, just an idea what to +- look for

[buoyant roost]

you know whats good, you use whatever you find and seems like better 😄 that makes thing a tad easier.

[serene crane]

Throne of Ambition is easy enough to get and, as DoT its not really gonna oneshot bosses anyway so 40% more fire damage sounds cool, ofc less life without the other 2 idols

I guess even Ambition idol should get better with the Altar bonus 🤔

[buoyant roost]

I dont think it works with Altar bonuses

because its sealed affix

[serene crane]

Fair enough... but corrupting them at least works

[wary cedar]

uwu?

.<

[serene crane]

Misery went mad from all the item corrupting...

[wary cedar]

nah

i ve always been like this

[solar gyro]

what are the best affixes to look for on altars? i have a bunch of pyramid and archaic altars to sort through.

im playing BS Shurikens

[cyan wren]

Increased effect, Life, Armor, max omen/corrupt if you planning to use more of those.

[lime thorn]

killed my first uber this season

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Vooon/character/VoonS4Blade not the best eq but its fine

[novel tapir]

Is it just me or are bladestorm affix super rare?

I found only one item with that affix for the moment

[serene crane]

I wouldnt say super say... feels about the same as any other +skill affix on gear

That Doppel body armor is really nice

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane what do you think I should imprint on my rings? I'm thinking just pure HP

[serene crane]

Maybe %ele dot

btw with this Umbral SD trait (while using a dagger ofc) I guess the explosion applies 1 SD stack to all enemies in the radius?

[novel tapir]

Then i muss be very unlucky to not find an other one since ^^

[serene crane]

or craft Invoker ring? 🤔 but cant slam that on uniques 🙁 t7 %fire dot is 220% max roll, while max %fire dmg is 120... t7 health is always nice I guess... but more burn 🔥

[serene crane]

When you drop one, you could imprint them in Weaver tree to have a chance to get them from echo rewards/champions, then just Removal rune to get maximum shards back

[novel tapir]

Ive done that allready^^ i think all my luck went in that one item with t7 bladestorm affix^^

[cyan wren]

If you drop T7 prefix on relic and its not Bladestorm, spam Redemption rune until it hits.

[jagged sedge]

is velocyn's jaw good

why is main hand traitor's better?

[buoyant roost]

fire is better because of the damage from the weapons, which is not that small tbh

[cyan wren]

better in what build?

[jagged sedge]

shuriken bladestorm?

[cyan wren]

If your build dont have any other Primordial, Velocyn is always better main hand.

Well u cant Velocyn if u wear that Lowlife chest.

Unless u play full life.

[jagged sedge]

oh right u can only play one prim

my bad

[serene crane]

I guess depends which one you end up scaling more? Fire will just scale up your hits and dot, while the fire dot is higher but will only scale ignite

[uncut notch]

hi everyone, whats a good levelling build to transition to a dancing strike build?

[lusty wagon]

Imagine my luck

[steady cypress]

I would like to ask

is there any nerf to umbral blades falconer in this season?

or is the recall version is just too OP?

also for bladedancer

is the physical version of shadow cascade proc by shadow rend better than the version proc by sync strike?

[serene crane]

You can pretty much lvl up with anything, in like 1-2h max you should be at the point of unlocking bladedancer to roll with Dancing Strikes... You could go for Bladestorm to throw a spinny things, pick the Shuriken Storm node where Bladestorm casts shurikens, get the Blade Shield node in Shurikens to turn them into a shield so your spinny blade will have a spinny babies around it... -mana cost on either Shurikens or gear to make Shurikens 0mana => Sapping Strikes in Rogue so you hitting enemies with your own shurikens will make sure your mana stays above 50%... that should be plenty 😄 then in Dancing Strikes you can also pick shuriken node so your Dancing Strikes will auto cast shurikens

[uncut notch]

hey I appreciate you

I only played heartseeker last season 2

so thats the build I am familiar with

how's heartseeker this time?

[dusty olive]

I am not strong enough to beat uber abby

[quiet torrent]

are there any new cool bow builds this season?

[uncut notch]

yeah Im interested in bow builds too

[paper roost]

I'd certainly say that Bladestorm is a very nice addition to early Rogue leveling.

It's not new so much as 'less meta than recently', but I think the corrupted Icicle modifiers have rejuvenated that build. Can't be certain, though.

[dusty olive]

I thought 1.5m tooltip dps with shadow cascade rend seemed great but uh, still kinda weak huh

Long way to go

[wary cedar]

my heartseeker doesnt even have 100k tooltip

[dusty olive]

I'm missing two shadows, I'm way overcap on crit

And even 8k ward is squishy apparently

[paper roost]

I'm going to assume that Heartseeker normally have low tooltip numbers because it shows per single hit, not total recurve?

[wary cedar]

i hope lol

[paper roost]

Haha.

[wary cedar]

but still dmg is kinda weak on all marksman builds compared to other stuff

it's like

wait

[paper roost]

Well, I guess it depends on what your expectation is.

[steady cypress]

anyone?

[wary cedar]

i've made you a small infographic about the topic

[paper roost]

Infographics are getting quite meme-y these days, apparently. Le sigh.

[wary cedar]

That's the joke

beside the meme joke

[paper roost]

As someone who works in data analysis and visualization (among other things), the joke doesn't quite land with me.

Mainly because I've seen far more serious subjects treated with even less seriousness.

[wary cedar]

That's your problem then good sir

i m just here to make memes

[paper roost]

I don't recall saying it wasn't.

[wary cedar]

And I don't recall asking about your problems. I just wanted to make sure you keep your problems for you and not harm innocent people with it

[paper roost]

Eesh.

[serene crane]

Ragu cooked some Rend Multishot with a corruption that throws shurikens on bow crit (which is a corruption 9n bows and quivers)

[wary cedar]

was the cooking finished?

[paper roost]

That does sound interesting.

[serene crane]

I think he mentioned something about Mountain boots doing the trick, idk what followed 😄

[wary cedar]

ah hell nah

i m not interested then xd

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane fresh out of rng 😄

[serene crane]

Time to get the enchant and get those corruptions rolling 😄

[buoyant roost]

see you in 1-2 weeks 😄

[serene crane]

As Marksman you pretty much stand in place too, no? 😄

[wary cedar]

am i playing it wrong? 😭

[pale loom]

how many HP recommanded with blade dancer bladestorm for speedfarm corru 500+ ? i have 1700
it's better focus HP on body armor for example than dext maybe ?

[serene crane]

If I get too bored and get the bow/quiver with corruption, I'd like to try it out on bleed Heartseeker tho... Heartdrain node triggers only the first time Hs hits the target or also whenever it recurves? 🤔 I wonder If Hs keeps on recurving and hitting the target, its still a bow attack which when crits has a chance from corruption to throw shurikens?

eh and I forgot you need to crit to trigger that corruption, so probably no bleed... sounds like pain gearing something like this

[buoyant roost]

wasnt there something that increases crit chance a lot but makes it deal no extra damage

im pretty sure there was something

[wary cedar]

i can tell you that much that the crit for shurikens count on the recurve as well

[serene crane]

this ?

[serene crane]

That sounds good then 😄 we need some more Marskman lab rats for these things

[buoyant roost]

oh by the way @serene crane https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdzJ74qY this is my league starter. it's unbelievable OP damage wise. Maybe not the top dogs of damage, but certainly crazy.

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (33) / Bladedancer (66) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,636, Regen: 33.44/s
▸ Mana: 113.49, Regen: 8.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 14/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 37 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 40% / 71% / 83% / 63% / 27% / 128%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 969
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (0)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (729)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 71%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Decoy / Bladestorm / Shurikens / Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb

[buoyant roost]

maybe you have some idea how to improve.

[serene crane]

tbh what am I looking at? 😄 Shadow Daggers here and there, crit for BS+Shuri? 😄

[buoyant roost]

shadow daggers are just addition 😄 the idea is shuriken throw + shadow shuriken throw

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1s8xlb3/shadows_shurikens_bladestorm_bladedancer_abberoth/ posted this on reddit just so you can get the idea

[buoyant roost]

no... I can't remember but there was something. maybe it was a node on some tree xD

[serene crane]

Hmmm.... I'd probably remove the traversal Rend and took traversal Smoke instead... ehh Im kinda redoing most of it right now, traversal smoke, rend => umbrals; shuriken shield on bladestorm; throwing umbrals into bladestorm to make Bs stronger... if that would even work, no clue 😄

[buoyant roost]

I like too much rend spawning 2 shadows, and also fast traveling

😄

Man if it was only obsidian bow, would be decent

[serene crane]

Eeeh can you only get -5 with -5 throw on rings and -1 from Bladedancer passives? 😄 I want to make Umbrals 0 mana... :c

[serene crane]

The idea was to get Umbrals to 0mana to sustain all the mana with Sapping Strikes yeeted into Bladestorm+Shurikens and Smoke bomb, but thats probably not possible unless I missed some -1mana somewhere 🤔 You move with low cd smoke bomb => it creates shadows, it gives you Smoke Blades (overall its just big damage to throwing stuff) => Bladestorm starts spinning + Shurikens starts beyblading => you throw Umbrals into (boss) it => BS gets stronger... juuust not sure if the Umbrals thrown this way do any damage or get destroyed instantly to boost BS... it might very well die to mana 😄
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEdxana9

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (34) / Bladedancer (65) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,636, Regen: 33.44/s
▸ Mana: 113.49, Regen: 9.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 14/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 37 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 35% / 66% / 78% / 58% / 22% / 123%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 39%, Threshold: 574
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (690)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (729)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 29%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Decoy / Bladestorm / Shurikens / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb

[bold brook]

you could use foot of the mountain to reduce costs further

[serene crane]

Oh right, I forgot... 😄

also I kinda overkilled the crit bleed shuriken corruption Heartseeker

[serene crane]

back again

[junior oriole]

was the drop rate on ravenous voids buffed? I got like 4 this season!

[buoyant roost]

Hmm. Maybe worth it damage wise, not sure. What i dislike right away is having to pay attention to more skills that need aiming/timing. Have to train muscle memory and this goes hard at my age haha. Im thinking how to get more physical pen though. Xitharas sounds good, but no leech is very scary

[wise echo]

@silk crown Do you have a build link?

[serene crane]

Hmmmmm, you can get phys pen on weapons and amulets, but thats most likely not worth over flat/attack speed, maybe like 2nd/3rd affix; humble weaver idols have 2%

If you get to spam shadows for them to attack you might maaaaybe try Penumbra rings %inc dmg for shadows, phys pen for shadow daggers, crit multi

[serene crane]

and I remembered it wrong, its t6... still decent tho 😄

[wary cedar]

Hallo

[buoyant roost]

Yes, was thinking of Penumbra. Don't see "big benefits" but with LP2 might be better.

[buoyant roost]

This could probably work. T6 sealed is bomb, but I would like bleed/ignite on hit on the suffix T7. And base for Dot. I think only then it will be better than Jormund axe 🙂

[serene crane]

I wish you all the good luck with arena farming, Nemesis towers runs and Turtling 😄

I'll probably just chaos the shred suffix and see what I get, armor shred isnt useful there anyway

[buoyant roost]

Haha 😄 Not my focus now for sure. I will get more survivability for now. But when I kill abby for me that character is kinda over 😄 If I get some lucky drops I might push uber, but it's not really my goal. Not sure about the new pinaccle boss. Is it harder than uber?

[serene crane]

Its between normal and uber

I havent event went there myself yet tho 😄

[serene crane]

Misery lurking around instead of farming 4LP Mountain

[wary cedar]

uuum i m farming

astral blood

quiver

and other stuff ig?

idk

just running echos tbh xd

[jagged sedge]

Why would you guys put % health or dex on astral

I'm thinking health, I need a lot more hp to survive properly

[wary cedar]

i m not smart enough to understand that question

[jagged sedge]

I'm just asking whether I should slam Health % or dex on my astral

[serene crane]

Do you critically need dex for some big damage like some falconer stuff/red ring cap/whatever else?

[jagged sedge]

Not really

[serene crane]

Big t7 health then, might be a bit of waste, but staying alive is good... and just farm another 1LP 😄

[wary cedar]

again T7 icecile xd

[jagged sedge]

If you have a lot of ward, does that mean you always have this up?

since you're technically at "full health"

[serene crane]

You keep the damage, but lose all perfection stacks since you still got hit

[jagged sedge]

oh okay

[analog jacinth]

How does it work with shadow dagger? It has 100% crit chance. Can you increase it?🤔

[jagged sedge]

Btw do you guys use the Maxroll guide for BS shurikens

[serene crane]

looks like it does, actually looks worth out trying 🤔

[jagged sedge]

yo Olvrin, are you playing Bladestorm

[loud drift]

i found a pretty funny rogue bladestorm build for falconer you use falcon strike to automate acid flasks traps and the new relic to automate explosives trap

[serene crane]

holy armour shred stacks

[analog jacinth]

So, will it be enough to increase the base Critical Chance to 40% for the full effect? ​​Or do you need 140%?

[jagged sedge]

That's bladestorm right?

[serene crane]

Well since SD is 100% crit base, whatever % you get over that will be the chance to get +300% crit multi

[serene crane]

Yea I do, just trying to go shadow daggers instead of the fire

[jagged sedge]

What build are you following? I'm following the maxroll one and I'm not sure if it's that good

[serene crane]

My own 😄

[loud drift]

i do the same thing 😄

[wary cedar]

you do his build?

[jagged sedge]

I'm not good enough to do my own builds

[wary cedar]

just follow the guide at first and try to understand the items, once you do, and get broed and happen to scroll lastepochtool to look at potential other items you maybe get some other ideas xd

[serene crane]

Its way easier to do some your own build here than in PoE I'd say... it might not be Uber killer, but If you manage to get to 300 corruption, I'd call it a success

I usually cook some abomination here and If I have a silly question I poke Ragu

[jagged sedge]

That's true

I should probably ask him some questions about the maxroll guide

[serene crane]

What do you need with it?

[jagged sedge]

Well, just a question regarding if there's a better guide

This one seems good enough but idk

there are definitely some things im puzzled about

like this build is using mastered form, 5 talents into it

and I don't have enough dexterity to make use of it. Maybe it's better to put those points somewhere else

[serene crane]

You can get plenty of Attack speed elsewhere, this is pretty much just QoL thing... more attack speed is just more Rend for more attacks and ward

[jagged sedge]

I don't play rend

[serene crane]

right, Bladestorm I forgot

[jagged sedge]

lmao

I just realized something lol

Yesterday I was wondering if it was a placebo effect that my damage increased after I got a lot of movement speed lol

it wasn't

[serene crane]

Yea its nice little thing 😄

and can definitely spend the points elsewhere until you get more dex... it just increases the damage of your dexterity skills aswell

[analog jacinth]

Has anyone done a Shadow Rend build yet? Should I focus on the damage from the skill itself or should I still focus entirely on Shadow Dagger?

[jagged sedge]

I just watched Trickster's shadow rend marksman build

It reminds me so much of a build in Diablo 3

There's a multishot build where you spawn ballistas that also cast multishots

It's basically the same thing, except that shadows spam multishots here

it's a lot smoother in D3 though

this one looks clunky as hell

[serene crane]

You can honestly do any of them and be just fine... so far the crit cascade/fire is strong in late game.. for shadow daggers, I still gotta get there first 😄

[jagged sedge]

what's this fire thing?

[cobalt wind]

Kuzon set i think

[serene crane]

Yea

[jagged sedge]

is it fun?

can I see a planner for it?

[cobalt wind]

im not sure on the fire cascade as i haventr tried it. regular shadow rend is pretty versatile tho i think with the doppleganger set

[analog jacinth]

I’ve just noticed few videos on utube where guys completely ignore shadow dagger with shadow rend main😅

[coarse grove]

its honestly look more like BAMA (Blink/Mirror Arrow) from PoE

[cobalt wind]

if you can solve getting 1 shot its very tanky as every shadow you generate is at least 90 to 290 health heal without including shroud heals of 200+

[serene crane]

and you can sit at 4k+ ward... only with t5 ward on shadow body armour in hub I got to like 3-4k only by spamming rend

[analog jacinth]

How do you manage mana?

[cobalt wind]

what are you using to generate that much ward?

[serene crane]

-4 from Rend node, -10 by standing in traversal Smoke Bomb; Stamina of the Rover passive for bit of mana regen and 5mana on dodge... then some mana regen on gear and its fine

[coarse grove]

body armor affix that grants ward when creating shadow

[serene crane]

can get this on body and helmet

[jagged sedge]

ngl this build seems interesting

[serene crane]

without playing SD you can just get %inc damage by shadow skills

some idols can roll with ward on shadow creation but its quite low

[coarse grove]

ngl even tho bow version is much weaker it looked kinda better to me, playstyle wise

[jagged sedge]

I'm gonna have to get some of these items, like eye of reem

[coarse grove]

fixes pure multishot build issue with non existent defenses

[cobalt wind]

it very quickly caps on glancing blow and dodge chance

[serene crane]

also this... atm I dont run with any ward on shadow on gear and this keeps me at like 1k

[cobalt wind]

just have to survive that one hit or damage over time

[jagged sedge]

how do you farm eye of reem?

[cobalt wind]

i use 2 daggers

[jagged sedge]

Looks like a random drop

[cobalt wind]

velocyns and traitors

[jagged sedge]

what body armor do you use?

[halcyon crane]

prophecies was how i got mine

then imprint and spam monoliths

[serene crane]

also the mana sustatin... I only play smoke because of the bonus to throw attacks, so SD hits harder... Umbrals with mana on Shift recall is ezpz otherwise... possibly lowlife if you manage to skip all the health on shadow creation stuff

[halcyon crane]

if you dont have that, another option is the jormun or whatever set (even the sword alone is good)

[jagged sedge]

Btw is it better to play this Bladestorm variant with shadow cascade and dancing strikes over the maxroll one (synchronized strike)?

[potent arrow]

how much character sheet melee crit chance do i need for my shadows to 100% crit with Shadow Cascade, i also wear the set relic giving 7% crit chance to shadows

[junior oriole]

is there anyway to reduce the number of self effects I see on screen....this shadow rend build is absolute screen clutter and I can't see what mobs are doing to me

[jagged sedge]

lmao

Nope. The only thing you can do is play a different build.

[junior oriole]

I just specced in to it from bladestorm shurikens and I like the build so far except for the occasional hiccup due to me going in blind everywhere

smokebomb irl

[cobalt wind]

i use this for umbral blades. its really simple passive thing that happens whenever you shift but the damage is very noticeable on bosses

id like to use smoke bomb too because its cool but synchronized strike i think is a much better support ability

[serene crane]

I play the explosions, so no recall for me... and its funny to watch stupidly many explosive umbrals exploding aftter everything is dead

[cobalt wind]

the recall is nice because they just auto target stuff and instantly apply shadow daggers x 30 without me having to aim

shadow cascade and shadow rend do the aoe lifting

[serene crane]

I pretty much clear the screen with daggers from shadow cascade... but yea the umbral shift for mana is great, I used to play with it in 1.2 with lightning mirage

[cobalt wind]

its pretty easy vs omen windows tho. spam rend to clear everything, and once the omen is vulnerable you shift and it pops instantly

ya mana seems solved

[serene crane]

also... damn

[cobalt wind]

you run the dagger dance/porcupines wrath/shadow elegance cascade?

[upper talon]

anyone playing multishot mm?

[serene crane]

yep

[cobalt wind]

i ran that at first but didnt like that most of the daggers hit nothing, i think

i didnt see them home in on anything in particular

[serene crane]

tf did I just corrupt???

[serene crane]

Hmmmm, idk, there is so many shadows popping around, the daggers kinda fly everywhere 😄

[jagged sedge]

63% off from max range, delete it

[analog jacinth]

Do shadows damage bonuses increase shadow dagger damage?🤔

[wise echo]

LP3 with double T7, gone to atoms

[serene crane]

nope

[analog jacinth]

I see now why those ignore shadow dagger in shadow rend builds😌

[serene crane]

...the funniest thing is, I still havent moved from Fall of the Outcasts... I only run with +10% xp and 36% phys res from normal Age of Winter which I dont even need

[kind adder]

DAMN

That's messed up

[analog jacinth]

Is there a cap of armor shred effectiveness? Do 800 stacks still provide a damage boost?

[serene crane]

Nope it falls off quite early I think
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/cna4kixlvb?lang=cs

[wide yacht]

i love playing at 700 corruption and not seeing a single double T7 in 3 hours of gameplay

[little pebble]

Is there any good methods for making a bow shadow rend not just torch all my mana constantly? Umbral blades shift doesnt really seem to keep up

[wise echo]

I have 4 more to ruin, ahahahaha

[junior oriole]

lizard posted a bow shadowrend build you can look it up on maxroll

[quartz fable]

ALL HAIL LOOT LIZARDS

[dusty olive]

now agonize and never find a slammable base :)

[quartz fable]

yep hahaha

still havent even got all the uniques i need for the build yet, but that can go in stash for when im stronger and dropping t7s haha

[serene crane]

Thats a god damn big tongue!

[candid pebble]

I'm in Empowered Timelines now. I'm using a Bladestorm build (specifically this one: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bladestorm-bladedancer-guide ), but I'm using the Blade Shield nodes. Should I move away from the Blade Shield and focus on Deadly Aim to stay a bit safer in combat?

[quartz fable]

Id be interested to know that, my clear doesnt feel good using bladestorm as nice as the single target is. Ive got blade shield on too, would the damage be too spread out if you used throwing star and ricochet?

[candid pebble]

(Oh gods I need to get to 200 corruption to get an Omnis...Augh...)

(I might have to pivot a bit and use the primordial armor first...)

[solar merlin]

is resolute technique node on dancing strikes bugged? i dont see any dmg change for synchro strike

[serene crane]

Enemies in 100c should just melt... whats your gear? 🤔 %phys, health and resist exalted amulet shpuld be fine till you find something better, %crit If you need more... Bleeding Heart should keep you quite healthy unless you get oneshot from big slams, Physical pearls of the swine shouldnt be any hard to get

[candid pebble]

Darn, I had a bleeding heart spawn but

I think I passed on it

Oh that's all damage leeched as health

Ok, I'll consider that

[serene crane]

I guess you arent lowlife yet so leech from it wont hurt you... and both Bladestorm with shurikens spinning around it will heal you

[candid pebble]

Pearls of the Swine might be better for resists

Right

[serene crane]

Health, resists, decent dodge, making sure you dont try face tanking big slam attacks and Im sure it'll be fine 😄

[candid pebble]

I'm trying to do anything but that

But it seems my brain decided in a tense moment to stay IN the frost beam an exiled mage was casting :derpali:

[serene crane]

Oh yea that thing hurts

[candid pebble]

(oh custom emotes can't be used from other servers here, got it)

[flint bough]

hey i have a question

is the concentration bug fixed?

for bladedancers

[eager mason]

yep

[coarse grove]

From my personal testing respeccing multiple times per day, i think the best variation for clear is def Deadly Aim + Ricochet. Remove the Alloy Animation from Bladestorm also, that way you get good amount of chains with 3 bladestorms thrown into a pack

Chakram is kinda mid, need good amount of AoE to justify clicking it

[serene crane]

lol you know what?

Chakram should have some kind of channeled charging node, where you hold it and the longer you hold until X seconds, the more speed, damage and range it gets, zooming around like a beyblade

[coarse grove]

i think the general idea of it is good, but the numbers on its is whatever

like, Deadly Aim scales off +proj as well

and gets benefit from chains

and it is frontloaded damage

dont need to wait for projectiles to return like chakram does

[serene crane]

No idea tbh, I havent played that myself... but the showcase from Ragu with multishot into chakram procs from bow/quiver corruption looked cool
#🔪┃rogue message

[flint bough]

so concentration is still a good node for bladedancer right

[coarse grove]

ye i was just talking about pure chakram + bladestorm build

[signal heart]

I have a lot of fun with Bladestorm, Shuriken, Shadow Cascade, Shift and Dancing Blades but it seems most builds use Decoy, Smoke Bomb and Umbral Blades which I personally find very boring to use

[coarse grove]

smoke bomb as move skill is lit tho

im using it with sync strike + expolive trap that triggers from relic

[serene crane]

It only sucks when you have to move downwards....

[coarse grove]

ye but tbf i find it pretty smooth to use if you have double t7 cdr on belt + boots

[serene crane]

Yea for sure, cdr just feels great

Even Decoy is quite cool tbh... alright-ish dodge which can also give you some solid crit multi

[native summit]

What is the relic from this build?

[wary cedar]

Gun

[wide yacht]

do you mean something like this?

certainly wish i had that lp4

[wary cedar]

only single exalted

lmao

[wide yacht]

exalted are allergic to me

haven't found a single double t7 so far

i'm at 800 corr

[wary cedar]

slamming a single exalted on a 1 in 5k should be considered a war crime

[wary cedar]

try nemesis

[wide yacht]

he's the same lol

i'm just unlucky

[half nova]

I assume you mean a not awful double t7 and I would just say gamble harder xd

[wary cedar]

just to bad imprints are gone

[native summit]

Just nerfed into the ground not gone, I dropped a 3LP Traitor's and post imprinting a day ago I now have 4

[wary cedar]

they got nerfed so hard that i wouldnt know what to do with them now

no rare uniques, no multi exalted

[native summit]

What do you mean are multi T7 imprint not allowed anymore? Or just doesn't trigger at all

[wary cedar]

doesnt trigger

maybe it can, but the odds for that must be awful

i only got single exalted when i had a multi exalted imprinted

[wary cedar]

i appreciate your effort, but i dont find that funny. i am sorry.

[serene crane]

🙁

[undone spear]

@wary cedar new build

dive bomb

shadow rend

[wary cedar]

don't talk to me like that

[undone spear]

by JUSE

[wary cedar]

i don't do bird

i don't want him

[undone spear]

misery i miss u bro

what are u doing

[wary cedar]

bro i m literally all day here

wdym

[undone spear]

idk i just like saying that

[serene crane]

Please be careful when you use the D and B words in combinationa and context with the F word

[wary cedar]

i just dropped a crazy suggestion in the channel for it, go check it out, maybe we can make it happen x)

[native summit]

I have been running the maxroll bladedancer, shruken, bladestorm, sync strike build for 2 days now with decent gear all I am lacking is Razorfall.

But this build does not seem like the GOAT, any suggestions on build changes?

Don't mind rerolling

[wary cedar]

Heartseeker all the way

[native summit]

I am not a fan of bow build unfortunately, no matter how strong they are. Also no balista or explosive trap builds please

[wary cedar]

well in that case

is there even anything left? xd

[native summit]

I mean shadow rend with the set items but I cannot find proper explanations as to how it works

[terse forum]

I started with that and pivoted to trikster version which worked a lot better for me
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/1e2kqm0i#2

[little pebble]

Any tricks for getting good weavers weapons? This stupid mace is gonna be the death of me

[wary cedar]

get lucky lol

[native summit]

Thanks this might be the answer thanks will check it out

[terse forum]

you might need more mana regen it drains quite a lot at the begining

[native summit]

I have T7 Throw damage and -Mana on both my rings and I use 2x 2LP Julra's works great for mana issues

[torn shard]

is there a way to cap glancing blow as a bladedancer? struggling with defenses

[jagged sedge]

Is there a way to combine two filters?

[serene crane]

15% from Rogue, 16% from Bladedancer (22% If you got 50dex), Doppelganger set helmet with 24% max roll, some enchanted idols can roll few %, you should have some okay access of generating Dusk Shroud stacks where 1 stack gives you 5%... should be plenty

[torn shard]

thats prob what im missing, is the doppleganger set

[serene crane]

Also Gorgonscale based armor has 10-15% glancing blow implicit

[torn shard]

ialso just realized ward gain per shadow would probably help too

okay so im just trying stuff thats too hard for my current gear lol

[serene crane]

depends what skill you're using, but this is just free Dusk stacks

aaaand I forgot in BD Weapons of Choice give you 5% per point If you dual wield swords, but you probably found that anyway

[torn shard]

i think i need more cd reduction for smoke bomb too

i dont dual wield swords unfortunatelyt

but maybe i could if i put another scissor on

[kind adder]

Why don't I see anyone running lightning shuri? Seems like most of the gear isn't physical specific or if it is, could be swapped easily.

[wary cedar]

i do

[daring blade]

I run it via falconer, and my bladestorm also throws explosive traps which throw acid flasks. It's both a fire and lightning build, so most of my damage increases are universal (damage while using a dagger) or for throwing damage.

I actually spend most of my time throwing acid flasks, which nearly clear the screen when the hit a storm. It's a very explosive build. Clear speed is fantastic.

Single target damage is good enough to stun Abby. Haven't tried Uber yet.

[main cape]

Anyone gotten Peak of the Mountain via Warden's Echo this cycle? I've probably looted 50 non Peak mountain uniques so far with it

[daring blade]

Double check you're not hiding it with your loot filter

[main cape]

I'm not i got an LP0 doing it the normal way

just re-verified as well

[main cape]

does that mean you have?

[daring blade]

Nah I haven't farmed that boss. I was hiding a different unique, though.

[serene crane]

want some?

[torn shard]

how lmao

[serene crane]

80 Dusk stacks 😄

[torn shard]

just millions of stacks of dusk shroud?

[main cape]

I've got it from the boss, just not from warden's echo and i'm wondering if it's not possible

[serene crane]

my base is 52%

[torn shard]

yeah i figured it out, it was a learn to play issue and stop leaving my smoke cloud lol

[kind adder]

LEtools link?

[kind adder]

What corruption are you able to comfortably run?

[wary cedar]

lmao i dont cast them myself they only shoot out of my bow here and there and i mad them lightning xd

[daring blade]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWX93V39

I'm running ~600 with this and still phase skipping bosses

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (16) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (49)

General:

▸ Health: 1,609, Regen: 24.07/s
▸ Mana: 148.78, Regen: 9.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 20/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 52 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 108% / 57% / 89% / 81% / 93% / 81%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 563
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (697)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (734)
▸ Block Chance: 10%, Mitigation: 13% (104)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 18%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Explosive Trap / Falconry / Bladestorm / Acid Flask

[torn shard]

when has falconer never been able to do that haha

[kind adder]

Lmfaoo oh

[daring blade]

Yeah my defenses are shit. Everything dies though. Stun is a great defensive layer, too.

[kind adder]

Seems cool, so you throw bladestorms which throw shuris and throw flasks into the storms?

[loud drift]

your running the same build as me i can send you some of what im running

[daring blade]

Yep, and my bird also throws flasks

And the storms throw explosive traps

[loud drift]

you need one of these too

[daring blade]

Sure

[daring blade]

I've got a few 2LP Elicoe's waiting for a good exalted

Did you see my belt?

So many potions

[loud drift]

i did not but i hope its this one

[daring blade]

Very similar

[loud drift]

damn thats alot of potion find xD

[daring blade]

It really is

And the corrupt is fantastic

During clear I'm often around 2k ward

[loud drift]

nice same i had alot of really bad corrupt so far

this helmet has been pretty worthe it

[daring blade]

What do you have that costs 40 mana? Falcon?

[loud drift]

yea it cost 75 and i use shuriken with sapping strikes to generate all my mana back right away

[daring blade]

I have been hoping for a 2LP Seed of Ekkidrasil

How much damage do the shards do?

[loud drift]

not a lot themselves but the shred resistance and that stacks with shock on the explosive trap

[daring blade]

I really want that endurance threshold from health on seed, but this might be a good alternative in the meantime. I'll probably try to farm those.

[loud drift]

if you do you need sapping strikes and kinda wanna max out shurikens

this is my current shuriken set up and it does alot of damage and generates all my mana back

[daring blade]

Already maxed sapping

And shurikens is at 31... Down from 36 with a slightly different setup lol

[loud drift]

yea i need to get a decent nihilis

[wary cedar]

ok

[serene crane]

ngl being in the middle of 4 Meguna ogres as they charge their slam doesnt feel very good

[wary cedar]

did they unwillingly touch you?

[serene crane]

No, I brutally anime'ed by morbilion Rends before they got the chance

[main cape]

i'm assuming the +2 dex is vital? I'm playing a bladestorm/shuriken/dancing strike build

[serene crane]

Yeah, I'd say +1 is fine, +2 is just big value overall

[main cape]

yea i'm wondering if a +2 LP2 would be better

maybe i should slam first and then see

[lime vine]

How does everyone dex stack to 150 or so? Is it just T7's?

[signal heart]

Isnt the Rift Beast dagger mandatory then?

[serene crane]

fml of course it ate like 90% of FP....

[serene crane]

Mmmm... you play that only If you dont play with Astral Blood since you can only wear one Primordial item

[daring blade]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-bebop-seems-that-way-so-it-seems-looks-like-it-gif-17299673078441135397

[lime vine]

Thanks

[robust pasture]

what type of atropos do you want for shadow rend?

[serene crane]

Ehh I guess flat phys/%phys/crit

[wraith nacelle]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A14vrWqK Made a new Heart Seeker setup using truesight this time instead of discord due to new corrupts helping

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (59) / Falconer (19)

General:

▸ Health: 2,867, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 200.44, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 42%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 94 Dex / 21 Int / 33 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 52% / 96% / 87% / 62% / 119% / 126%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 1,151
▸ Dodge Chance: 36% (1272)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 15% (488)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 115%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver / Puncture / Shurikens

[wary cedar]

maybe swap out the quiver

also if you plan to use the shurikens like that take li'raks claws as gloves

[robust pasture]

shadow cascade keeps its melee tag even if you have dagger dance, right? the tooltip drops the tag, but im seeing huge increases from %melee atropos

[wraith nacelle]

What quiver are you thinking this is the same quiver Iv ran on cold crit for a while

[wary cedar]

nightbringer it's better dmg amplifier

[serene crane]

I can see the same as you and tbh no idea, shouldnt be scaling from %melee anymore, so its a bit weird 🤔

[wraith nacelle]

How so Im not low life or multi shot on the set up

[wary cedar]

does not matter at all

see this is your bow cold dmg without Troakas Teeth
they would give you 16 flat and 90% increasse in the best case which at this point ain't much

nightbringer adds a 10% increase overall against slowed enemies

[thin vessel]

any tips on a chill rogue leveling build with twink gear?

[robust pasture]

if i could read good, that woulda answered my question

[thin vessel]

i dont like what i see on maxroll

[wary cedar]

@wraith nacelle well it's acutally maybe kinda simillar, depending on the stat syou already have and all, nightbringer gives some crit protection as well, and if you play low hp it's just more stats

[serene crane]

Well yea thats what swaps the tags, but why is it still scaling with %inc melee dmg

[wary cedar]

if we re speaking heatseeker dmg alone Troaas Theeth is better, but you got iceciles and shurikens going on as well, they would benefit more from nightbringer

and take 5 of these, its 75% crit multi + sustain

[wraith nacelle]

interesting might be something I need to test ounce I get rolling further on . Haven't thought about it before when I hard pushed HS the season it came out I just ran traoks

[serene crane]

Oh, free crit chance

[robust pasture]

it isnt, i had some corruption on my one sword i didnt realize

[wary cedar]

i crafted a low hp heartseeker , but idk how to feel about it, still need to farm quite some items for it
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEmgP0m

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (10) / Marksman (71)

General:

▸ Health: 1,541, Regen: 31.28/s
▸ Mana: 171.09, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 166 Dex / 17 Int / 17 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 58% / 40% / 88% / 13% / 58% / 80% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 308
▸ Dodge Chance: 34% (1202)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 1% (15)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 50%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Multishot / Shurikens / Heartseeker / Dark Quiver

[wraith nacelle]

Lol I intended to I just missed it was wondering why I had points left and just threw them in extra dex thanks for the catch

LL marksman gives up to much in the tree its not worth Personally Im not a fan of dragon song either I prefer the range as a bow user

[wary cedar]

ya giving up that 75% crit multi hurt lmao

[wary cedar]

i feel like dragonsong adds a lot of dmg you might miss with reign of winter since it always fall of hard in dmg when i upped the corruption a bit, but that could just be me. so i think it's either dragonsong or reogn of winter with the cold res overcap and just screwing every other res to get as high as possible cold penetration

[wraith nacelle]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/EyeofSuede/character/TheSuedeEye My old set up ran overcaped cold for the pen node didnt totally screw everything over but this is with dumm gear (ignore shadow rend I was testing things )

[wary cedar]

well there is one heartseeker playing with overcapped in the ladder rn

that's why i mentioned it because it seems like it works xd

[wraith nacelle]

it does but you need either dumm good gear or you have to ignore all other res and become a supper glass cannon that falls over to a swift breeze

[wary cedar]

i mean that's the only option if you push corr like crazy tbh

you get oneshot anyway and shot everything from afar

[wraith nacelle]

I was able to push 2750 with my old setup but its very slow at that point , its best to just farm 800-1000 ish for speed

[wary cedar]

i never played that long back when i played heartseeker the first time

and now i lack motivation to grind further because imprints are dead x)

[wraith nacelle]

I love the build personally Iv over played it at this point but no other marksman build is good . Shadow rend multi shot ended up a flop sadly

[wary cedar]

maybe we should play detonating arrow

[wraith nacelle]

Sadly it hasn't been good since you could trigger a ton of them with explosive trap

[wary cedar]

sadge

[signal heart]

So I just reached Empowered Monolith, how much HP should I be having - I saw a video of a guy fighting Abberoth with 2000 HP, I am sitting here with about 1800

[wary cedar]

so you think 200 hp make a difference?

[signal heart]

More like "I feel I should be missing 3000 Max HP but that guy lived with 2000 so I am missing something here"

[wary cedar]

depends all on the build and stuff

just because you saw some guy do something means that your build is going to do the same

[serene crane]

HP is one of the things that matter a bit less than some other... 😄

[signal heart]

Well a class usually has common attributes ... I doubt an "obvious build someone would come up with playing the game normally" would build a Rogue with ARMOR for example, we obviously build Dodge

[wary cedar]

and that's were you re wrong lmao

rogue class are very unbalanced inbetween

some just oneshot all bosses

some get 10000 ward

and some can barely stay alive

to say i havent seen a build care about dodge in a long time

[signal heart]

dunno I feel kinda save here with my 12k dodge rating after using shift

[wary cedar]

to bad that i caps out around 5k or something

you mainly get dodge from all sort of things, you should not focus on it as a stat on items, it's nice to have, but it wont really safe you since it's unreliable

[serene crane]

80-85% dodge cap or whatever; glancing blow; timed silver dusk against non-DoT slams; parry; blind / crit take reduction / crit avo... slapping the enemy before it managed to slap you

[signal heart]

Yeah I should be uncrittable

[wary cedar]

at the end it all comes down to the build you play

either you need to out sustain or out dmg the enemies

[signal heart]

Right now I have no Uniques other than the rift beast dagger that dropped off a rift beast before I could farm it ...

[serene crane]

I was doing Omen echo chain and accidentaly went into Pinnacle of Chaos at 400corr... my ward never went to 0, so ezpz

[signal heart]

I still need any of the set that spawns additional shadows on dodging around and retaining them

[kind adder]

I long for the day when det arrow is good again

Lightning bow stuff is always the coolest to me

[serene crane]

If you're CoF, just roll for prophecies and it shouldnt take long tbh

[kind adder]

Can det arrow even do 100 corruption

[wary cedar]

i think in generall a lot more conversion affixes like the shuri lightning ones for all kind of weapons and dmg typing would be so cool, and allow so many new builds, and now with corrupt item it seems like the perfect spot to implement that

[signal heart]

tbh. vaal orbs in PoE and corruptions here are my least favourite mechanics - it just raises the power level of "perfect items" by a purely randomly achievable amount that leads to builds being only achievable by community efford or insane luck

[serene crane]

Its just the endgame gamble gearing, you dont really need corrupted affixes to beat the game

[wary cedar]

well if you would take out the corruption you wouldnt have many system to get good items with that are left - since they removed imprints

[serene crane]

Corruption runes arent something rare and corrupting set items is lowkey fun and not hard to give you way better item (or just same set item but with all stats maxxed out)

[kind adder]

So true. Would love to see like void conversions for some marksman stuff, cause we have that random ass quiver that does flat void bow dmg and it's absolute dog lol because void has absolutely no synergy on rogue

[wraith nacelle]

There was a mana stacking det arrow setup that could kill unber fast but was junk at mapping but for some reason they even capped that now

[wary cedar]

we actually got 2 void quivers. one is good tho

[wraith nacelle]

if they added an afix to phase point that would attract arrows to the player it could be a dang good quiver especially on Heart seeker that can make a ton of dark arrows

[serene crane]

overall void rogue would be super sick... aaaand with the beast unique set ring, you could run Forgotten Knight, maybe Chains and Siphon, some void dancing strikes/cascade stuff... sure not some insane build, but doable 😄

[wary cedar]

tbh i m kinda not that happy with this season 😔

[kind adder]

Oh yeah forgot nightbringer has that random low life stuff lol

[wary cedar]

nightbringer is good body, dont underrate it!

[wraith nacelle]

if your trying to play marksman its same old same old blade dancer is doing dang good with rend and blade storm

[kind adder]

No yeah nightbringer is great for multishot

[wary cedar]

no, it's good in general

so i mean yes

but also good in genreal xd

[kind adder]

Really? Why's that? I've never used outside of multishot

[wary cedar]

i m not that interested in the op stuff. i m more a fan of playing a medicore build and trying to get good stuff for that, but they nerfed endgame hard x)

[wary cedar]

dmg amp against slowed enemies

but if you dont play low hp or something you could also just use spidersilk quiver

no need for the unique then

also i just realised there is no set item for bow/quiver 🔫

[serene crane]

Also still no WW body armor...

[wary cedar]

WW = Warwick?

(sry i played League)

[serene crane]

Yea I dont think he is in the game

[kind adder]

Was just about to say this, probably better to just use a spidersilk if you're not doing lowlife

[wary cedar]

i mean it does come with blind which can be good

and lp3 ain't that bad to find

so it technically can be better than spidersilk

[serene crane]

If you wanna try something, maybe some full Weaver's Will build, perhaps with Abandonded amu+ring for the 50% bonus from weapon legendary affixes

Dual Weaver's Will sword as some DoT bladedancer

[wary cedar]

do you know this meme
"0% understand
100% trust"
??

i m like
"0% understand
0% trust"
right now xd

[serene crane]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-im-something-of-a-scientist-myself-scientist-donald-kimball-gif-14910706

big trust, trust

The off-meta builds cant get more off-meta than Olvrin's overcooked builds made out of pure lack of sleep and perhaps too many energy drinks

[upper river]

what would be a good rogue build to help clear early monoliths? Currently on Falconer but the build I want is a ways away (and a meme) so I need something different. The last guide on lastepoctools was far enough away that the build doesnt work anymore.

[unique umbra]

What options are there for survivability of you don’t go with the low life build?

I’m playing an off meta blade dancer with Flurry, Smoke Bomb, Shadow Cascade, Sync Strike, Shadow Rend. I’m going for 8 shadows so the primordial chest and health drain gloves don’t work in my build.

[wet bear]

hello rogue gang, is that shadow rend thing any fun?

[serene crane]

Depends... Its funny skill once you get used to it and get your mana good enough to sustain it... and once you start spamming it, it gets pretty wild

[gleaming rampart]

can you use rune to make item primalist and get a tier 8 and imprint it?

[rigid stratus]

is there a good way to farm the +1 max shadows glove? that's champion only drop right?

[stiff fable]

Send me build xD

[serene crane]

Maaaaybe tomorrow 😄

[stiff fable]

I know at least it's double weaver swords xD

[west totem]

stupid q: why do bladedancers imprint weaver's set if they dont have weaver weapons

like this maxroll guide im looking at uses firestarter torch and traitor's tongue

[kind atlas]

its just to get set bonus perks from ring

[turbid oar]

yeah i think im playing low life ig

[upper vale]

Hello, anyone could recommend me a off meta build?

[half nova]

Worst build probably multishot no rend

Viable but questionable shadows dagger shadows without bladestorm using exploding umbral blades drop on shadow expiration

[upper river]

does Falconer get the spinning blades anymore or is it locked away to bladestorm and no comboing with the bird?

Wondering if I can make use of this

[storm lantern]

Can Shuriken Blade Shields cast by Bladestorm hit the same target even without Alloy Animation node?

[upper vale]

yes, if you have ethereal blade

[magic gull]

in your guys opinion, which build is better shadow rend or shadow cascade

[shrewd dome]

should I be farming the mountain helm on tier 1 or something higher?

[magic gull]

t1 is fine as its only a 5% dif from t4

[shrewd dome]

is it a 45% drop chance in t1?

[magic gull]

yeah

[shrewd dome]

damn im super unlucky then lol

[magic gull]

happens to us all

[elder condor]

Do yall do synch strike with blade storm?

[wanton hull]

I’m a Bladedancer with Bladestorm Shuriken build. I’ve got few resis capped but lightning for example 1%. I would lie if I say I don’t die, but compared to the past seasons I wonder why corruption 400 is so easy with that low resistances. With that fact I come to the question: does resistances really matter? Sitting on 3k ward currently, if I cap resistances I obviously loose other boni, haven’t got red rings or omni dropped yet. Fire I got capped for example and some skills just oneshot me that look like fire.

[wanton hull]

You play that bladestorm that uses shuriken to deal dmg? Then yes, since sync strike works with shuriken.