🔪┃rogue

[buoyant roost]

slash that. it works, just needs an enemy

[wary cedar]

was about to say that

[minor viper]

https://youtu.be/n9k79NMoTwk is it bug or it works fine? (spinig showing sound exist but no dmg)

[drowsy wind]

also: best way to cap crit? i'm at 80% now

[oak plume]

what to do about this

open suffix yo!

[eager mason]

it can only hit the same target once while spinning, and I guess twice for chakram since it normally has the return hit too

[oak plume]

need phys dmg with daggers prefix 💔

[upper talon]

they are so rare wtf

[oak plume]

aand the armor is bricked gg

[upper talon]

if they that rare i think im going to play something else xd 2 days of favour farming and i got one

[minor viper]

ah ok, thank you, any way to make them hit full time?

[eager mason]

nah that would be too broken

[minor viper]

ye

[eager mason]

it can hit different targets tho

so its not bad while mapping

[pulsar solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPob1Jbv9MQ

Omen clear with LM

[shrewd dome]

Has ehg said anything about the dancing strike bug that prevents you from moving

[livid lodge]

Hey guys, whats the best rogue build atm? Is it bladedancer?

[simple chasm]

blade detonation pretty good https://streamable.com/vv63x1

[crude light]

Can someone help me? I'm building bleed bd. Does (Lethal mirrage nodes) illusory edge (phys pen for bleed) and wounding ambush (LM phys pen) stack for bleed?

[simple chasm]

yes

[livid lodge]

damn not bad from nemesis right

[ebon python]

Does this node consume Shadow Cascade's mana cost?

It's in dancing strikes and doesn't specify

[carmine mortar]

What do y'all suggest for survivability on the rogue? Any hit I don't dodge seems to be almost one shorting me

[wary cedar]

just dont get hit

[hallow apex]

Best ubberoth build sofar?

[flint turret]

No. Triggered skills don't consume mana in general unless it specifically says so

[ebon python]

Thank you!

[flint turret]

Doppel helm affix does wonders

[full hill]

What’s solid hp for corruption 100? I have 1.6k but it gets dicey 1 shot even crit immune sometimes, not sure where I’d fit in much more though, idols and maybe 1 piece of gear could hit 2k (level 84). Haven’t played a life based char in ages

[flint turret]

1.6 should be fine-ish with capped res. If you can't get more health get more endurance or ward

[carmine mortar]

Is that the new set helm?

[flint turret]

Yes

If you have a decent way to generate shadows it's basically gb cap and close to capped dodge from 1 item

If you want to make one-shot ehp bigger you can look into ways to generate/sustain ward on top of hp. Ward on shadow creation for example on body/helm

[tidal cliff]

Does Slagstorm work, y'all? I'm throwing my umbral blades into bladestorms and nothing's happening...

[low quiver]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/1e2kqm0i#1 can somebody tell me what does the shadow cascade and circular strike does here? what does the difference between this and the synchronized strike version?

[livid lodge]

can i go the bladedancer now? prophecies were lucky this time

[wary cedar]

what is the pruple?

[rocky nova]

letsgoooo

[oak plume]

dude i have so many LP3 daggers i just cant find gauntlet of strife

[terse bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXbib556BwY

[open falcon]

Hey guys ! I am trying rogue blade dancer for the first time this season and wanted to see if anyone could recommend me a good build like for lethal mirage or dancing strike please ? I feel so lost with all those low life build and such. Thanks !

[coarse grove]

Would you guys say Falconer is good for bladestorm + shuriken build or bladedancer is still better?

[narrow dome]

Falconer would be totally fine for bladestorm shuriken

[coarse grove]

meant rather to ask whats more optimal as a build

cuz bladedancer is going shadow maxxing pretty sure

while falconer just scale throwing stuff?

[ebon belfry]

is therte somethin like a good sheet dps for shadow cascade??? 😄

[slate zenith]

i thought the new go to ammy was omnis? why is everyone still using nihils. is it better than omnis?

[stiff oar]

Does anyone know if Hidden blows from Smoke Cloud applies to shuriken created by bladestorm or only direct skill usage?

[simple chasm]

im not using shadows as bladedancer, better than falconer for this build https://streamable.com/vv63x1

[oak plume]

win i guess

[drowsy wind]

it works, because i have seen the bladestorms increase in size. i have the feeling (and tried on an empty screen) that umbral blades don't actually fall where the cursor is. do you use a ultrawide screen?

[fossil scroll]

anyone got traitors tongue 2x? :c

[drowsy wind]

what do you use to spam skills?

[void cargo]

fix bug dancing strige stuck all the time cant move cant do nothing

[drowsy wind]

im running cold/lightning zero shadows BD. finally got 112% crit and now farming for the supercrit primordial neck

[oak plume]

oh finally imprinted this

the amulet is so stupidly insane from it

[tidal cliff]

Just regular 2560x1440. The blades on the ground are quite well-visible, I don't know.

[hearty meteor]

playing on controller I am struggling to use either synchronized strike or dancing strikes effectively.

[drowsy wind]

until you got the fixed distance node, just try on an empty map, click on the ground and see where the blades actually drop. the bladestorm node works, but it's not reliable. best use so far is to stay near the bladestorm and click right next to you

[carmine kelp]

would this work off of Shadow Daggers triggering?

since it doesnt mention it has to be a direct use, and Shadow Daggers have the melee tag

[wild moon]

sorry if this sounds dumb but why do people on the corruption leaderboard take black feather but the maxroll guide doesn't?

[drowsy wind]

which map is that?

[oak plume]

new uber

[carmine kelp]

depends on the build i guess, but Dark Quiver gives really nice buffs to everything you need

[wild moon]

so for the ballista build it's better to take dark quiver then decoy?

[drowsy wind]

i'm still running to increase corruption. what is the best way to do so?

[simple chasm]

bros how did I manage to equip undiscovered blessing ??

[carmine kelp]

one thing i have no idea about though, do leaderboards show equiped skills at the time of clearing or chosen skill specializations

[wild moon]

thats a good point

[carmine kelp]

because there are ways to passively generate arrows, meaning you dont need them equiped and can take decoy instead for example

thats what i had to do in S2 with multishot marksman

[wild moon]

yea, i'm just confused since maxroll says to use dark quiver for bossing but people in the leaderboard are useing it for normal monos

but thats also saying that it shows your current build

[lapis kite]

for a heartseeker build, would 52% attackspeed or 196% bow dmg be better for a 1LP reign of winter?

[carmine kelp]

depends on how much of the above you already have

[lapis kite]

what do you mean

as in how much total attackspeed and dmg I have?

[carmine kelp]

yeah

[wary cedar]

i got the wrong one 😔

[carmine kelp]

how much would adding 52% attack speed multiply your total attack speed by

same with bow damage

[lapis kite]

226% bow dmg and 129 flat. and 1.84 attack speed

[carmine kelp]

the 1.84 doesnt say anything

[lapis kite]

oh increased bow attack speed is 100%

[carmine kelp]

cool, now just do the math

(226+196)/226 versus (100+52)/100

also take into account mana costs, spamming more of an ability will also ramp up mana costs

[lapis kite]

hmm good shout

[carmine kelp]

when i was playing multishot i wouldnt take attack speed simply because otherwise it'd burn through my mana faster than i could regen it, making damage and clearing too inconsistent

[lapis kite]

hm ill just get 2 1x lp bows and hit both and decide what the corrupt does

thanks a lot though

[carmine kelp]

that works too

if you're playing heartseeker though, attack speed increases its travel speed and hit frequency i'd imagine?

if playing status and with a high enough recurve chance attack speed might he better hands down

[lapis kite]

yes status cold stacking and recurve

so I think attackspeed is better

[crimson latch]

wha build are you playing ?

[wary cedar]

heartseeker

[simple chasm]

hey guys looks liek tanglewire passive for net is not workling?

no debuff icon and also when the net is over it doesnt persist

[crimson latch]

can you share your planner? im done as bd, im gonna start a MM

[wary cedar]

just do maxroll one

it's fine

[crimson latch]

ok

thanks

[wary cedar]

yo what belt works the best with this one?

the one giving ward stats or the one giving crit multi?

[vale sage]

Ey, is there any ranged marksman around build with multishot?

[blazing locust]

cmooon bro -_-

[bold brook]

I killed uber with Rend + Cascade https://youtu.be/N_CDpFPL_Zw?t=246

[blazing locust]

This game hates me

[wise echo]

Don't forget the weaver echo that can reroll it.

[solar phoenix]

does this mean i should farm the lowest level even if i want 2 lp

[crimson latch]

i wanted something else

[lilac stump]

worth?

[coarse grove]

What is the play for shuriken in terms of balancer dps/clear as of now?

There is bladed shield/Deadly aim/chakram versions

[humble radish]

Anyone running Bow Shadow Rend? How good is it?

[native summit]

What is the synergy between BD on Maxroll and Razorfall boots?

[pure sequoia]

only for leveling...idk felt weak fast

[crimson latch]

with the version of SMK i saw at YT is a fcking ferrari xD

[cyan wren]

300m + 200m crits on Recall Umbral Blades.

[wary cedar]

i do like 5 dmg

[wise echo]

NOOOOO

[humble radish]

that's what I am hearing

I know there’s a new corruption affix that lets you cast shurikens on crit, I wonder if that would be any good with Shadow Rend?

I'm kind of new to the game so idk how much damage shurikens would do or if it would be any good with shadow rend.

[hidden hornet]

runninng cold heartseeker. fantastic mapper but its literally zdps on uberoth. any recommendations for a switch to a fast mapper that can also do uberroth (that isn't a 10min boss fight?)

[sturdy glacier]

anyone tried out wildfire? is it fixed?

[oak plume]

where my relic

[wary cedar]

bro, get a loot filter

[oak plume]

sorry the lootfilter i forget to change

[wise echo]

It is better, but theres not enough ignite duration to make it spread the whole map

[oak plume]

i picked up the juice already

i should have hidden exalts 2 days ago

[wary cedar]

i only let it show me double t7

[little pebble]

all I get when I play bow rend is mana problems

[bleak wadi]

Is this increased or multiplicative?

[little pebble]

increased

[bleak wadi]

Thanks, just to confirm I was specifically asking for Throwing Attack Damage

[kind adder]

It say increased in the tooltip I'm pretty sure

[bleak wadi]

It doesn't

[kind adder]

Oh. No it does t

Weird

But yeah it's increased

[bleak wadi]

It is, almost as if they forgot

Thanks for confirming

[crude light]

Does dmg buff for skill works also to status it applies? Or it's only if dmg buff is multi?

[wise echo]

Unless it explicity says, no

[blazing locust]

these corrupts are ridiculously variable sometimes lol 😄

[fading burrow]

Wow nice ss didnt look

[fickle crow]

But how cool does this look?

[delicate onyx]

So i justed these two together and it doesnt work, should I report it as a bug?

[little pebble]

how does it not work?

[delicate onyx]

you are not getting stacks from the daggers thrown by shadows

[cobalt mantle]

iirc they are already planning to fix this in a hotfix, but never hurts to report in game when you find stuff

[delicate onyx]

oh good to know, they will probably just rewrite it so it only counts burning daggers you cast yourself, it could be too op to get 30 stacks instantly from shadows

[cobalt mantle]

Heh, possibly - that said, it does have that rate limit and shadows do take some effort to generate, so it might be totally fine if it worked

[delicate onyx]

synchronized strike gives you 4 shadows instantly but yeah usually you dont get so many shadows

[patent ledge]

is it possible to find your critical strike chance for a particular ability? like shadowrend? without having to calculate yourself

[delicate onyx]

even this doesnt give you any stacks for Kuzons Fury set, its like it only works for the daggers triggered by the sword

[delicate onyx]

I dont think so

[finite arch]

@wary cedar you still HS?

[rain creek]

can you convert more than 100% of damage to another element?

eg if my Shuriken's are hitting for 1000, and I convert 190% to lightning does it just make it 1000 lightning or 1900?

[delicate onyx]

according to this no

[rain creek]

ahh damn

[lyric stag]

can someone show example of good weaver tree points Allocation

[low vector]

I've seen a lot of ppl skill trapuchet combined with impact trigger how does that even work?

[uneven gull]

Are there any ways to run the Doppelganger helmet on a low life build?

I know we can turn off leach but I don’t know if there is a way to turn off the health per shadow creation
from it.

[violet heath]

Just use a T1 affix. Your health drain can negate the 10 health per shadow easily

[uneven gull]

It’s over 100 hp per shadow and you generate a ton of shadows since you are presumably going for a shadow build if you are using it

[delicate onyx]

You can use the Primordial Armor if you still got a primordial slot over

[uneven gull]

Thanks! That was my first thought. Curious if anyone has any experience with how the health drain keeps pace with the healing

[delicate onyx]

I dont use it but I saw it on the shadow cascade build on maxroll

it kinda solves all your defense issues

when you have 5000 ward all the time

[uneven gull]

I guess it sorta devalues the ward on shadow creation prefix since it caps it

[delicate onyx]

yeah kinda but if you create 2 shadows every second like me it could still be good as backup

[barren ore]

How do you all feel about glancing blows? Is Apostacy worth it? (Lose dodge forever, extra glancing)

I'm on BD so no shield

[kind adder]

No, it's not super difficult to get 100% glancing blow chance while also having high dodge chance, so no need to convert it.

IMO take the glancing blow nodes where you can, and take the dusk shroud on melee hit nodes and you will max out your GB chance with like 10 shrouds, and you get guaranteed 35% less damage taken. And each shroud gives dodge chance too, so on top of that you're dodging a bunch.

Depending on your build obviously, if you have the points to spare, glancing blows are a great defensive option for rogues

Other rogue experts can weigh in on that as well, but that's been my experience

[merry moat]

any good?

[barren ore]

Hella. Thank you!

They seem to be quite handy

I'm not having survivability issues yet, but rogue is the one class I haven't played so I'm not entirely sure of all her defensive layers

[uncut pebble]

Burning dagger's kinda poopy huh, I think i just wasted my time trying to make it work

[winter stratus]

Any of you playing falconer so far this season? How does aerial assault feel now w/o blade Storm?

[grave rampart]

I still have the same problem 🙁

[cedar lichen]

I've never played a rogue before but the Shadow Rend ability looks really cool. Has anyone taken it to late end game or at least is it fun? Also how do I survive as a rogue?

[crimson latch]

what skill can proc this?

[elfin dew]

I kinda want to do ignite ballista since it looks like many of its glaring bugs has been fixed since I played it 2 years ago.

Or a year ago I forgot.

[kind adder]

"When you use another bow attack"

[fossil quarry]

anyone have tips for running out of mana on bladedancer?

I keep going low on mana in a single combo

[errant pollen]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXzWZWMg
can anyone give me feed back on this build I made.

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (83) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,808, Regen: 23.6/s
▸ Mana: 112.51, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 100/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 72 Dex / 12 Int / 6 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 76% / 76% / 77% / 62% / 108% / 73%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 77%, Threshold: 1,098
▸ Dodge Chance: 61% (2644)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (709)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 35%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Umbral Blades / Shift / Lethal Mirage / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb

[fickle galleon]

Anyone whos playing Bladestorm shurikens with dancing strikes. Is there something off about shurikens generated by dancing strikes?

Sometimes it has mana gain on hit (due to 0 mana cost) and sometimes it doesn't but it seems to be related to when bladestorms are actively generating shurikens. (minimum mana cost is 4 for this way). Maybe regular shurikens inherit this 4 mana penalty without costing it?

Dunno if it's a known bug or intended this way?

[lusty wagon]

damn

[cyan wren]

@eager mason Any idea why I cant one shot uber even if I hit like this?

He just goes to immune phase after the chunk.

[cyan wren]

Yeah I figured that out after reading the Flow passive.

Its really hard to pull off with the global cds in this game.

Maybe I didnt do it right on my actual boss runs.

But I saw big chunks and he didnt die.

[eager mason]

did you apply falconers mark before it

[cyan wren]

I managed to pull 300m + 200m on the dummy on that screenshot.

Yeah I do that.

[eager mason]

monsters get damage reduction based on area lvl

dummy damage and boss damage isnt the same

[cyan wren]

Hmm interesting.

[eager mason]

here is my offline 1 lp character on dummy

[cyan wren]

My Gear, there's no way I do less dmg than your linked planner under your vid.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A14Rgab8

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (18) / Marksman (16) / Falconer (48)

General:

▸ Health: 1,250, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 242.46, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 23/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 152 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 24% / 24% / 24% / 24% / 9% / 36% / 29%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 250
▸ Dodge Chance: 38% (1240)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,233)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 12%

Used skills:

Dive Bomb / Aerial Assault / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Falconry

[buoyant surge]

The mana gain on hit is only when you directly use them (I'm assuming you mean mana on hit for 0 cost skills on normal rogue tree?)

[delicate onyx]

what build are you using?

[cyan wren]

Maybe I was still doing rotations wrong lol.
U got some kind of mouse macro that u can share potato?

[eager mason]

nah its just numlocking

[cyan wren]

Can you share a video where u walk up to the boss, not just when just starting it?

I want to learn exactly the starting movement.

I usually just smoke bomb from my spawn to him and start spamming (proccin the julras) and by the time he actually aggroable the julras falls off.

Idk if thats the problem

[rugged pollen]

Did you drop double smokebomb or just one?

That can make the difference

[cyan wren]

i drop like 3 lol.

[delicate onyx]

you cant have more then 2

[cyan wren]

oh really. I was doing too much jumping then.

[cyan wren]

Cant really tell.

[rugged pollen]

Maybe take a full screenshot?

Or better a clip

You should have 8 stacks of smokeblade when you recall

[cyan wren]

Thanks for this. Analazyng every second in slow mo might help me master the combo lol.

[rugged pollen]

If you're doing it correctly

[fickle galleon]

i cant read lol. didn't realize it was direct usage.

any tips on mana sustain for that build or is it just manually casting shurikens in between / mana regen mods

[cyan wren]

I didnt do any screenshots cause how bad the tries were.
But i got the actual reference now so hopefully I can pull it off this time.

thanks for the tips.

[lyric smelt]

how's ur mapping

[rugged pollen]

Btw you do that by getting traversal cdr exp affix on belt, then spam pot to get instant 2 smokebomb

[eager mason]

its just a bossing character

[rugged pollen]

In case potato hasnt explain it

[shrewd dome]

has anyone been using raxx's loot filter for their bladestorm build? is it good as is?

[cyan wren]

Oh really? Is it really necessary?
His character pob under his 1 shot vid didnt have it.

Wait unless let me check again.

[eager mason]

yeah I dont have the cdr thing

thats another build

[rugged pollen]

Huh

How do u get more than 4 smokeblade?

Oh i see

Duration increase from aa

Got it

Yeah then u dont need the cdr

It will make it eassier to execute but not neccessary

Nvm u dont even need to duration inc lol

[buoyant surge]

DM me might be easier haha

[rugged pollen]

I forgot smoke has only half the cd if traversal

[dense wedge]

I PM'd you a question! if you have the time to look

[normal remnant]

is anyone else having a hard time getting traitors tongue?

[wary cedar]

i aint switching buddy
my momma didnt raise a p*ssy 😔 ✌️

[dusky steeple]

Why my lethal mirage deals so little dmg than dncing strike and cascade while it has so much higher estimated dps?

[kind adder]

Tooltip DPS on lethal mirage is weird because it does a lot of damage in a short amount of time, and then has a really long cooldown, but the DPS calc doesn't factor in the cooldown. It just tells you how much damage per second the skill does. So it's going to look higher than a lot of skills but it's actually way lower when you factor in cooldown

[cobalt wind]

if a Shadow that casts Shadow Cascade and kills something with the 4th application of a Shadow Dagger, does it trigger Gloomstalker for a chance to create another Shadow?

[pulsar solar]

My mirages attacking the invulnerable omen in Champion omen 🙁 it’s sooo bad

[thick bloom]

Whats the go to build on bladedancer this league?

[kind adder]

Don't think so because it would count as killed by shadow daggers which is an ailment, not part of the damage of shadow cascade

[cobalt wind]

roger, ty

also, with that in mind, do ailments applied by shadows do more damage with all the shadow damage increasing effects available? i assume no for shadow daggers because how could the game tell if i applied 3 stacks and the shadow applies the 4th for the biggest damage possible?

[kind adder]

That one I don't know. Someone in here probably does, or you can ask in the dev channel

[wintry mountain]

Hello everyone, I have a question: in your opinion, which BD Bladestorm build is better, Trickster or Lizard IRL?

[flint turret]

Whelp, yeah flow goes hard like expected

[wary lynx]

Yes, it took me until empowered monos

[cobalt wind]

does Flow require 4 separate skills, or does alternating two skills work fine?

[cyan wren]

@eager mason Hit him for 245 and he didnt die.

Aw hell nah.

[lime thorn]

easier to get your first couple traitors tongue through prophecies

[latent anvil]

Hi guys. I just empowered monoliths and am farming for blessings. Is it better to push corruption to 200 first or farm at 100 only

I am playing trickster rogue build

[pulsar solar]

Or do both?

[latent anvil]

Do both @pulsar solar ?

[wary cedar]

just always play as high a you comfortably can

[pulsar solar]

Push the corruption and farm btw

[lyric hollow]

Is mad alchemists ladle still behind exiled mages?

[weak kernel]

hi guys, i went multishot rend blind - im not sure i should continue lol

how good is bleed at the moment? maybe it would make it viablebetter? im still in campaign, does it get better?

[half nova]

mana cost misery ;p

[thin quartz]

multishot itself is just a terrible skill ever since heartseeker came out.
whatever ms can do, hs just does it way better.

single target dps multishot require you to be melee range
clear speed, HS + puncture proc does it.
dont forget, HS auto aim / auto track same goes for puncture proc. huge QoL

[cyan wren]

Finally did it. @eager mason
Does it take you bunch of tries before u can pull of the 1 shot or u can reliably do it by now?

[blazing locust]

they gotta nuke this mastery next patch its ridiculous 🤣

[rigid stratus]

@eager mason does this mod help any or is it only the % phys we care about? https://i.imgur.com/Ti4OVxt.png

[cyan wren]

Melee Phys is useless. All our dmg is Throwing.

[rigid stratus]

so the % phys is global then so it still helps?

i got this double t7 dagger and was tryna figure out my best course of action

[cyan wren]

The only that helps is the white 2nd affix.

[rigid stratus]

😩

[cyan wren]

1st says "Melee"

so its useless.

But u can sell for some decent amount. Rogue Melee builds want that T7.

[rigid stratus]

im CoF

also just cuiz it's melee doesn't mean i can't craft it into something different 😛

[cyan wren]

Oh its COF. U can use the Havoc rune and hopefully double T7 both 2 first affixes.

That'll be nutty dagger.

[rigid stratus]

yea gonna try to seal the stun chance and go from there i guess

[cyan wren]

There some China guy on 1st rank Corruption with the Ballista Explode Trap build.
Anybody got clue how it works?

4k corruption rn.

[half nova]

I assume same as before? Glass cannon really hard, and pray it freezes/stuns

[tender falcon]

Anyone else running into an issue on rogue of just randomly getting stuck? Portal spawns to far away to interact with, can't use skills, or evade. Just trying to see if anyone knows a work around other than dieing or quiting to menu.

[half nova]

Rend does kinda fix it because you can send the shadow forward and line of sight enemies with auto targetting multishot, though multishot is kinda a bad skill in general

But then again the mana cost in general is brutal

[cyan wren]

Oh yeah its just Ballistas with Dark Quiver for buff.

[rigid stratus]

so i got like 6 whole tabs full of these idol shapes.... is there any mods / shapes that are like "this is the godlike shit u want as rogue" that i should look out for and sorta ignore everything else?

[wary cedar]

lol

bro just collecting every item

🙏

[cyan wren]

People mainly want the "Increased effect of Prefixes/Suffixes" and life I reckon.

[rigid stratus]

https://i.imgur.com/F77E69E.jpeg

[cyan wren]

u'd want some max omen on some specific shapes but thats about it.

[rigid stratus]

stash tabs cost like 200k each now 🙁

[cyan wren]

oh thought u meant Altars.

[wary cedar]

i only have one altar, and that is the one i have equipped rn 😂

[rigid stratus]

yea the altars

[serene crane]

Alright.... hear me out... eco-friendly 😎
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B5PgnaJ7

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (29) / Bladedancer (67) / Falconer (17)

General:

▸ Health: 1,894, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 234.51, Regen: 10.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 30 Str / 70 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 83% / 42% / 54% / 18% / 46% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 379
▸ Dodge Chance: 49% (1829)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (726)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 54%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 110%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Bladestorm / Shurikens / Decoy

[wary cedar]

thanks i guess

[cyan wren]

https://tenor.com/view/sportsnet-sn-sid-seixeiro-sid-tim-micallef-gif-1075278826641496915

[daring blade]

This is my daily pitch that bladestorm shurikens should switch off razorain and pick up alloy animation. Fast moving bladestorms are a game changer for clear.

And being able to deploy them separately allows you to target multiple areas at once.

[wary cedar]

i m tank now

[serene crane]

Im trying out Bstom with Shurikens and bleed, got like +-850% bleed chance... I just throw them once, bleed goes brrr and just throw them again If really needed... but its still low corruption so nothing much to brag about

[daring blade]

Also I think people are sleeping on using bladestorm to throw explosive traps that throw acid flasks. I went falconer, and my falcon and I throw a bunch of flasks along with the bladestorms. I use Elicoe's armor.

[daring blade]

I haven't tried bleed. The multipliers on the skills aren't very good, but they do hit a lot.

[serene crane]

Autobomber bladestorm sounds like fun, I just havent dropped the relic yet... guess I could CoF it about right away 😄

[daring blade]

Personally I'm going crit. I have seen flask crits for 70k, and that's while all my other shit is also going on.

The bladestorm nodes that multiply acid flask make the explosion huge.

[serene crane]

It stacks pretty well with shurikens, Bleeding Fury stacks from Puncture and just spamming Net as Traversal with smoke bomb on land... its quite fun, idk how far I'll be able to push it tho... so far Ive seen almost 2k bleed stacks tho... I also gotta try Salt the Wound, I got Carrion of Creation with corruption of all max rolls tho

[daring blade]

I'm only at ~250 corruption right now with a lot of necessary upgrades on the way, but right now most bosses don't get past their initial phase, like emperor of corpses doesn't do his explosion.

[daring blade]

Carrion of Creation seems like it would be fun to build around.

[serene crane]

🤔 I have to check if Carrion of Creation converts the ailments chance=>bleed chance from skill tree aswell... could also be funny to get that explosive trap relic into acid flask to do bleed explosions everywhere 😄

[daring blade]

It has some strong multipliers, but I don't think it would hit often enough to be worth it for an ailment build. Hard to say.

[raven wave]

ye this is what i wanted to try

preferably not with falconer though

[pure sequoia]

Not that i didnt try but howtf do you manage mana?

[raven wave]

could mountain foot mby

[pure sequoia]

The falcon itself scales great with throwing tho

[daring blade]

It's tough. In big fights I basically spam shurikens. My acid flask mana cost is only 2, but explosive trap is like 11.

[raven wave]

just seems like a similar result to old jelkhors

[raven wave]

yea i just despise falconer and refuse to play it xd

[serene crane]

I rolled with Bladedancer as usual, got Net to 0 and then I just do acrobatics around with Sapping Strikes

[daring blade]

Falcon has a node that gives the falcon 1 or more charges of acid flask every time you throw one, so basically you two are in sync on that.

[raven wave]

ah thats pretty solid yea

[daring blade]

If I could get two t7 rings for mana cost, acid flask would be free and thus trigger the mana nodes

The big advantage of this for me has been that there is a lot of immediacy to the damage. Everyone is always getting hit and stunned. Even bosses get stunned.

And it's easy to cast into multiple areas at once so you don't get caught from behind.

[serene crane]

It gets pretty funny when you manage to perma stun some bosses 😄

[raven wave]

lowlife bd for shift mana could help aswell

ill try on bd later either way, screw birds

[daring blade]

I'm running 250 corruption right now with <2k hp and bad resists but having no issues

[raven wave]

laughs in multishot

starting on that as i didnt end up playing it at all last season

missed it

[serene crane]

Ive skipped 0.3 pretty much entirely so... a lot of new stuff for me now at least 😄

[daring blade]

I don't have enough space in the build for that unfortunately. I use shift but don't have it specced. I used to. I need to find a new way to cleanse ailments - those are the only things that get me sometimes.

Especially poison in the omen encounters

Isn't there a belt mod that clears ailments on potion use, or is that poe2?

[daring blade]

Yeah I need that

[serene crane]

Well there is Immolator unique belt to cleanse all ailments, but... that wouldnt fit the build much

[daring blade]

I really want a high lp scavenger

[serene crane]

I just enjoy traversal Smoke Bomb, that has easy ailment cleanse too

[raven wave]

wish rend traversal went further, its pathetic lol

its nice as a source of frenzy but it moves u forward about the same as a normal dodge....

[daring blade]

Yeah I wish I had one more slot. Running falcon/trap/flask/bs/shuriken

[wary cedar]

but you have it twice!

[raven wave]

trueeee

just feels so ass to use idk

would be fine if it went slightly further

[serene crane]

I wish Rend would move you towards your mouse cursor while using WASD movement... or am I just dumb? 🤔

[raven wave]

u can change the settings for that

but rend is the only skill ive ever needed to enable that setting for

otherwise i hate it

[wary cedar]

i use it all the time
i think it's fine
one node i would ve used is bugged or something
only thing that icks me a bit is the delay of the dash

[raven wave]

idk whats different about it

[daring blade]

I started with rend and didn't like it either. It has an awkward pause and doesn't feel fluid.

Shift is snappy

[wary cedar]

for snappy dodge i have the evade

[raven wave]

im mostly sticking with shift for the speed buff and cleanse

[wary cedar]

for movement through echos i use rend

[raven wave]

got black arrows for frenzy for now

[daring blade]

I just gotta go fast. Every mono is a sprint to the end with a bunch of explosions like some kind of Michael Bay movie.

Explosions and blades

Just needs Megan Fox to be complete

[raven wave]

Megan fox dlc

[wary cedar]

do you have a 2nd monitor?

[serene crane]

and Optimus Prime as falcon birb shop cosmetic

[daring blade]

Technically yes, but I have it on duplicate, because my main screen is the TV, but if my wife wants to watch something, I can just look at the smaller monitor next to it.

More info than you asked for, I know

[wary cedar]

goofy ass setup lol

[daring blade]

It is. But I like playing in the living area so I can be near my wife instead of in the study.

[serene crane]

tbh If you'd play a movie on 2nd monitor with Megan Fox, it might get you killed in game... hard to say how worthy it is

[wary cedar]

maybe switch to megan fox asmr then?

[daring blade]

Idk, we've been watching How To with John Wilson, and there are quite a few things in that show that you'd think would get me killed but don't

Anyhow, once again I implore everybody to try dropping razorain and picking up alloy automation for bladestorm

Really, it's so good

[serene crane]

I run both, with Hurricane too 😄

[daring blade]

I think the nice thing about dropping razorain is you can have tighter control over where each storm goes

[serene crane]

I gotta try it with full set bladedancer with channeled cascade and bladestorm... planner says 65 dex on average settings, so the speed might be really funny

[daring blade]

Also a lot of mana gets spent unnecessarily by the second storm when one storm is probably enough to take out most task.

Trash*

[serene crane]

Idk, depends how fast you can keep your mana up? 🤔 whats really nice aswell is it enables both Bladestorms hit the same target

[daring blade]

I burn through mana and recover it quickly in tough fights, but in regular traversal I usually stay capped.

[raven wave]

very good show

[wary cedar]

my priorities are

1. my setup
2. girlfriend

||don't let her see this||

[raven wave]

my main monitor is our tv xd

two desks in the living room 🐐

[pure sequoia]

i typically dont have issues with mana as long as shit is dying or many targets...but bosses...well empty is an understatement

[raven wave]

ye razor rain is a must for bossing anyways surely

[daring blade]

I have a lap desk thing and play from the couch

Also I play with a controller

On bosses most of my damage comes from me.

[thin quartz]

too late. i require 1000 gold in game

[serene crane]

I guess I should also pick Strength of Arms for the 12% hit rate 🤔

[daring blade]

I can spam a lot more shurikens than the storms. I hug the bosses to death.

[serene crane]

Have you tried checking out Bo's Anarchy? 😄

[daring blade]

Yeah actually. It took a lot away from my dps. I'm running dual daggers, one of which is the primordial one

[serene crane]

Ah yea makes sense I guess for the crit 🤔

[daring blade]

Maybe if I got a high lp bo's

[solar gyro]

Do I slam dex or %health on this?

[dim hornet]

dex

[daring blade]

Are you having more trouble because of lack of damage or because of getting one shot occasionally?

[solar gyro]

I'm at 300 corruption atm. Everything is pretty easy.

Pushing up rn

Dex probably the better slam

[daring blade]

Could also do +4 to a skill

Is there an upper limit for skills? I tried searching this but didn't see anything

[serene crane]

Not that I know about, but I might have just old info from 0.2... 😄 the best Ive done was 32points in Dancing Strikes with Atropos swords

[lusty wagon]

@dense sparrow Is you at 3874 corrupt on ladder?

[daring blade]

Ah okay, yeah I'll probably hit that when I put +4 shurikens on

[serene crane]

Im also not sure how common and where can the +1 (idk if +2 exists?) corruptions be, but If you get lucky with those... points for days

[crimson latch]

why marksman has to be on the tier Z list dude, everything is Throw or melee..

[serene crane]

hah alright I guess 😄

[serene crane]

No new strong builds with Heartseeker?

[pure sequoia]

nothing changed for it tho?

[zenith bridge]

idol setup got buffed, icicle proc corruption on bow is possible. Downside is we cant proc shurikens with shift anymore

[wary cedar]

like this

[wintry mountain]

Hello Trickster, could you help me? I can’t decide which BD build is better in your opinion — yours or Lizard’s — in terms of DPS and overall versatility

[pure sequoia]

Wonder if theres a nice Interaktion for Aerial Assault and bladestorm and umbral blades.... Assuault throws blades which get stronger when thrown into storms?

[dim hornet]

As someone who is playing Lizard's I can say I never use Synch strike.

[delicate onyx]

Maybe a firedagger build with Kuron set and Heartseeker

[zenith bridge]

dancing strike version should have higher dps with all the dmg multipliers you get. I personally prefer that playstyle. But lizards version is as endgame viable as dancing strike. Personal preference i guess.

[delicate onyx]

Iam at lvl 30 for dancing strikes, but aiming for 36 or higher

[hexed snow]

Hiya peoples, so it's my first time running Bladedancer, originally was going the full burning daggers + kuzons + pillagers gold, swapped over to a more fire dmg oriented (/planner/BGzyW7W3) and honestly it feels like its dropping off in damage, even just at the 100 corr after unlocking emp monos, and was wondering if it would be any better to go more into a phys version by dropping the kuzons?

I'm mainly just Dancing Strikes proccing Shadow Cascade & Shurikens atm, with Shadow Cascades on shift and smoke to spawn shadows

I just dont know where to go from here though honestly, just looking for advice

[delicate onyx]

I can show you my build when Iam home later, I also use 2 Kuzons Swords and I use dancing strikes to proc super strong fire shadow cascades while creating shadows over time with smokebomb and sync strike

But I dont go for firedaggers cause they are bugged

[hexed snow]

Yeah I had plenty of throwing dmg, idk how much potion find % but it was pretty high and they only hit like a wet noodle

[serene crane]

How do you get to 36? 🤔 the unique ring for sets?

[delicate onyx]

+8 from weapons, +2 from a chest I wanna go for, +4 from relic, idk where the other +2 come from, Iam at work rn so cant check

[serene crane]

right, the new set sword 🤔

Its funny but it'd probably just be so bad 😄

+4/+4 weapons, +2 amu with +1 corruption, +2 body with +1 corruption, +1 with +4 slam relic

I just originally built it for DS shadow daggers, so now it miiight be a bit scuffed

[delicate onyx]

For your build prob yeah

[serene crane]

Maaaaybe Ash boots, try to go for bleed stuff => convert bleed to ignite with Maehlic gloves 🤔

[wary cedar]

make me make me

[cyan wren]

Shadow Rend infinite shadow spams are prolly most fun builds this ss.

[barren ore]

how do you all feel about flow

I've been back and forth on it with my DoT build

[serene crane]

It was alright when I played bleed DS, idk about other builds

[barren ore]

I'm on bleed/poison DS so that's pretty close lol

I'll give it another go

[serene crane]

Its only 3 points, so a bit of free dmg every 5th DS

[barren ore]

did you not go into rhythm and pulse?

[delicate onyx]

Well its only 1 shadow per cast and sync strikes gives you more shadows

[serene crane]

Nah, Im like preeeeeetty 99.99% sure that wont increase your DoT but the actual DS hit

[barren ore]

interesting

[serene crane]

Concentration from Marksman would give you more damage to DoTs, just in the melee you'll probably lose the buff a lot... but with enough points its like 2s recovery to get the buff back

[wary cedar]

just dont buff at all

raw dog that shit

ty for reading

[cyan wren]

havent played it yet so idk how it works. Just saw others playing it and saw shadows filling your whole screen.

[ripe flare]

yoo, is blast rain marksman still a viable option? or did they shoot that completly

[serene crane]

full nakey
roleplay walk to Uberroth
punch him in the face
leaves
refuse to colaborate

[drowsy wind]

got my hands on the primordial "supercrits" neck, have to get some LP on it and try slamming some stuff plus corruption

[serene crane]

Maybe with the new Doppleganger set? It should create 2 shadows with your traversal... which Rend could be... but idk, Ive only seen the one with Sync Strike

[paper roost]

I am basic and use Shadow Cascade to get Shadows.

[cyan wren]

Yes they use that Doppleganger set.

[wary cedar]

wow! crazy! you made it cringe

[serene crane]

ty for reading

[ripe flare]

?

[wary cedar]

i stopped at "roleplay"

[lapis pumice]

no changes, if anything guile is a buff

or even apathy if u manage a double corrupt ammy

(idk if even possible think i read that somewhere)

[ripe flare]

mhmm, i cant find any build guides anymore, thats why i was asking

cuz im too dumb to put that stuff together myself xD

[lapis pumice]

it's kind of memey, even more so now with the gigabuffed throwing stuff

i was pushing the build last season but i don't have much time in my hands this season around

will prolly come up with smth but it's gonna be late

[ripe flare]

blast rain with the heorot bow was one of the most fun things i ever played in this game

a close second to maybe coal lich or shatter strike

[lapis pumice]

if anything there's even less incentive to scale bow damage + traps now, with the new bladestorm relic automating traps also

[ripe flare]

devs seem to have a history of shooting the stuff i love to play i guess

xD

like, PoE removed my fav. endgame content. as in they just deleted it

(hence my playing LE atm xD)

[dire pawn]

someone link me a falc build that isn’t ballista or bladestorm

or recommend me one and i’ll go find it lol

[main cape]

anyone here playing bladestorm? Looking at this maxroll guide some of the gear choices seem odd to me. Twisted heart gives practically nothing but the health as far as i can tell, there's no elemental/necrotic skills are there?

[ripe flare]

the gear section explains it

[main cape]

yea like i saw that but that doesn't seem like a lot

[ripe flare]

20% health is a shit ton, if you have flat on your gear

[coarse grove]

i think Artifice of Devastation is just better imo

[main cape]

is % health not obtainable on relics otherwise?

[main cape]

yea i have an artifice right now and feel bad switchign off

[coarse grove]

its also good if you play chakram since it buffs the area as well

[lapis pumice]

@ripe flare

my version from last season, did uber, you don't die from staying in a puddle for more than a frame

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/saiosan/character/hydra

zhp version i found

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/wzcm90ih

and there's a couple guys playing it on the corruption ladder so i guess it's still decent

[ripe flare]

did they change much from last season? or can i just take this and do it

[lapis pumice]

nothing changed

[ripe flare]

purrfect, thanks!

[wary cedar]

uwu?

[ripe flare]

:3

well, imma farm for this on my shatter striker i started, and then swap over

[ripe flare]

oh, its a falconer, i always played it on marksman

[lapis pumice]

u scale explosive ballista which is a minion, so falconer gives more perks

like being able to scale crit mulit with crit avoid

also falconry refills some mana, the mana expense is crazy

stuff like this on falc double dip cuz ballista has a node that says every crit stuff is shared at 100% effectiveness

[ripe flare]

i see the vision of the build, but yeah, thats not what i want out of it. what i played was blast rain, that triggered detonating arrow, and the heorot bow, so just a projectile fiesta

[lapis pumice]

oh yeah this version they capped the deto arrow print

to 10 every 2s or smth

[ripe flare]

yeah, so they shot it

[lapis pumice]

try explosive ballista u wont ragret 😂

it's as dumb, whole screen explodes

[ripe flare]

but no projectile printage

thats the thing i enjoyed most about that build, just projectiles everywhere

[wary cedar]

if you want projectiles play heartseeker

[serene crane]

Btw, was there any talk about the last Bladedancer skill?

[ripe flare]

imma try the blast rain ballista setup, and if that doesnt catch me, imma test heartseeker

[tulip hollow]

somebody really gave up on the spelling there

[ripe flare]

holy xD

[wary cedar]

been a long day yk

[uncut pebble]

Is there a softcap for dodge??

With buffs during combat I can't seem to go above 80% dodge rate, now I'm wondering if there's a base dodge rating i should aim for then full stop after reaching it

[wary cedar]

85%

[zenith rivet]

dodge caps at 85% if im not mistaken

[uncut pebble]

ah ye I just remembered to press G as i typed that xD

[crimson latch]

hi guys do you know if explosive trap does count as throwing even with the "bow attack" active?

im cooking something

[cyan wren]

Check if it still got the "throwing attack" tag.

Hover it and hold alt.

[upper talon]

whats the best build on marksman atm?

[cyan wren]

40 ubers only got me 7 Balls.

0LP. Attrocious drop rate.

[kind atlas]

can you do the one shot every time or is it tricky?

[ripe flare]

dafuq is going on in those greater omen windows. that shit is rippy af

and im only in the normal outcasts timeline

[hidden hornet]

got my HS Marksman to around 540C so far. Monos are a breeze still but wanted to take on uberroth before pushing higher C. I'm tickling him with what feels like zDPS. Any good recommendations to switch to (that will also be a fast mapper?)

[wild merlin]

shadow damage includes damage with shadow daggers right?

[serene crane]

Shadow damage is for the skills your shadows use

[wild merlin]

ah i heard a long time ago it counted idk

[cyan wren]

I've mastered the timing and rotation. Reliable rn.

https://tenor.com/view/shifu-kung-fu-panda-bow-salute-pride-gif-1615650347295901507

[kind atlas]

what are your steps?

[wary cedar]

just watch the gif

[cyan wren]

There's nothing in the scrolls. It was just you all the time.

Kidding. Its tricky to type but you need to time the Julra's and all your Flow and Falcon Debuff.

Rotation starts in your hideout.

Im not even kidding.

You need to dodge in your hideout. Click on the mono, click the map.

Loading screen, run up a bit, do a dodge again.

Aerial Assault 1 time in middle of arena, Smoke bomb on the boss spawn right after.

AW HELL NAH.

Recorded it so u can learn from my steps.

Good thing I can post vids without turbo.

[wary cedar]

Sir, what is a turbo?

[cyan wren]

nitro or whatever.

[solar gyro]

Solid corruption

[wary cedar]

i got +1 Level of Skills on mine

[kind atlas]

sick tunes. also thanks

[flint turret]

its the opposite. uber abby is on a powerlevel of 1500-2000corr bosses

[naive saddle]

Leveling a rogue as we speak xD

[torn shard]

Same, I love the changes they did with dancing strikes, feels so much smoother

[wary cedar]

i never in my life tried dancing strikes, am i missing something?

[normal remnant]

The build im following for bladestorm bladedancer says that Ineed to use peak of the mountain. I got the helmet but it does worse than my current rare helmet. Am I meant to use that once I get all the other items?

[ebon belfry]

is it senseless to use shadow cascade without dancing strikes????

[solar gyro]

whats most important roll on astral blood?

[paper roost]

It wasn't previously, so I am not sure what may have changed to make it so now.

[flint turret]

I'm liking cascade triggered by rend so far

[ebon belfry]

jeah thats kind of what im playing. but i use rend as traversal and with doppelgänger.

[flint turret]

It's a semi-ranged spam gameplay now instead of jumping around with sync or dancing

[ebon belfry]

still using sync for bosses.

[flint turret]

I'm not using it as traversal yet, but I had plans to eventually for monos

I don't even have sync specced atm

I'm using umbrals and traps attach

Umbrals for bleed mostly

For jormund sword

Traps for shred since I'll play it as fire

Sadly no reen yet

[ebon belfry]

as fire - so u using kuzons too?

[flint turret]

Not yet but I'll use helm

I need reen first

[ebon belfry]

thats whaat im doing, kuzons helm, doppelganger/ traversal shadow rend with cascades.

[flint turret]

I just don't know about primo

I don't really need any

[vital prawn]

is there a way to use the mouse movement but have dancing strikes not move me around? :S

[flint turret]

It's either discord or blossom or t8+shadows or t8 doppel relic

But I don't want to craft primo sets

It's tedious

[ebon belfry]

no idea what primo is 😄 im kinda new to LE

[flint turret]

Primordial items

[ebon belfry]

ah

im using the ring

[wary cedar]

el primo out brawl star

[flint turret]

I wanted to go trav rend first but I like spamming it now tbh. After I add ward on shadows creation to body it's gonna be sick

[kind adder]

I was ascending 1h swords while leveling hoping for the Kuzon sword and got 2 Reen's instead lmao

[serene crane]

Has anyone gotten that Bladestorm trap throwing relic as 4LP yet?

[paper roost]

That thing looks like it could be a lot of fun.

[serene crane]

Yea I wanna try it with Carrion of Creation to pretty much turn them into bleed flasks and just see how it goes

[wary cedar]

got 3 of these, but none as them as omen idol

[finite arch]

omg gimme that

[wary cedar]

no, i need them in my chest

[finite arch]

....

hows the build going?

[paper roost]

Yeah.... I started with Dancing Strikes Bladedancer and had a 72% Bleed / 221% DoT level-31 required corrupted bow drop. (Oh, and 25% IAS.) I was like, 'welp, guess I know what I should reroll'.

[wary cedar]

still looking for my shuri procc 😔

but i changed some stuff for survivabilty

idk if they make sense

but it is what it is now

[finite arch]

im at 78 deaths and only like 225 corruption lmao

[wary cedar]

can see your deaths somewhere?

[finite arch]

type /deaths in chat

[wary cedar]

i m at 106 lmao

[finite arch]

so what hs build are u?

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9J1pO4b

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (10) / Marksman (70)

General:

▸ Health: 1,963, Regen: 28.63/s
▸ Mana: 277.5, Regen: 14.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 79%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 91 Dex / 12 Int / 23 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 65% / 87% / 97% / 17% / 70% / 77% / 82%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 393
▸ Dodge Chance: 25% (832)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,047)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Puncture / Shurikens / Heartseeker / Dark Quiver

[wary cedar]

thats my setup atm

[finite arch]

oh u went cold build

[serene crane]

Gotta pump that bleed chance higher

[finite arch]

aint the tooth quiver better?

[paper roost]

Sure, just saying that's a single mod on the bow.

[serene crane]

also get shurikens on DS with Flip of a Coin in Shurikens, you pretty much turn yourself into a cookie cutter beyblade

[wary cedar]

since i play zhp build nightbringer is better

even without it should be better tbh

[native summit]

What is the synergy between BD on Maxroll and Razorfall boots?

[wary cedar]

but when you get the low life bonus its for sure better

[finite arch]

ohh

low life on a rogue build yikes

[wary cedar]

i got ward

it's fine

😔

[finite arch]

oh right forgot lol

[wary cedar]

it's somewhat okay

my defense on previous characters where way worse lmao

[finite arch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Av98N0JR

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 93

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (6) / Marksman (73)

General:

▸ Health: 1,460, Regen: 27.01/s
▸ Mana: 111.15, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 25%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 57 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 2% / 51% / 78% / 56% / 113% / 60%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 390
▸ Dodge Chance: 15% (452)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (808)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 12%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver / Heartseeker / Puncture

[finite arch]

this mine

i need better chest and ammy

[wary cedar]

iirc i think dragonsong heartseeker will hit a wall

in terms of corr because of survivability

and since you need to get close

[finite arch]

yea i already hate it lol. but i gotta farm bow and quivere again

...

[wary cedar]

btw i have a lp3 dragonsong with two t7, and t5 fire pen on my old heartseeker character

[finite arch]

dam

[wary cedar]

but those altars suck hard for hardseeker

there is not one where you can fit a 2x2 and three 1x4

so you really need the 1x3 omen idols, but those are so rare

[finite arch]

i just need the recurve + bow dmg really

and like crit multi / chance

[wary cedar]

i m fine without lol

i m playing 300 corr atm, no problems, but i really want to have more dmg before i go higher

[buoyant roost]

https://youtu.be/WLWM7sdx6fU for anyone loving throwing builds. I'm a fan ☺️

[flint turret]

im ascending all cof tagged 1h swords for 3 days no reen yet

[kind adder]

My drops must be bugged cause I also got a 2T7 helmet from a normal mono reward

At level 71 lmao

[ebon belfry]

wtf is going on in pinaacle of chaos o.o

[ebon belfry]

puh finally ö...wtf

[wary cedar]

this is not getting better

[cyan wren]

Do shadow considered minions?

[ebon belfry]

asfaik no

[wary cedar]

5 more trys, here we go

@flint turret

hit the T1

[paper roost]

Very nice.

[lusty wagon]

DAmn

[flint turret]

guys where do i pick it up

i cant find it in omen drops

found it nwm

can this be imprinted like the omens veil?

[tulip hollow]

i tried but never proc'd so i dont think it works

[flint turret]

okay so the play is to imprint omens veil i guess?

and farm prison from it

[lusty wagon]

this is the worst with printing

with this tree

[tulip hollow]

i've just been farming them and buying more

[lusty wagon]

50 Havoc

[tulip hollow]

you get more timeglass fragments from them than you spend

so can just farm it forever

[flint turret]

it costs 50 but i think im getting less than that

or maybe not?

[tulip hollow]

i get more everytime

as long as you shatter the cores

[flint turret]

its kinda painful on a melee tho

[tulip hollow]

also take the champions drop pile of woven echoes node

and you get a bunch of woven echo drops

[flint turret]

riiight

[tulip hollow]

i've just been running it at lower corruption

seems like timeglass fragment reward doesn't scale with corruption level so you could just run at 100 corruption

oh also if you have trouble clearing as long as you start all 3 omens before killing 1 you still get the fractured prison

so you can like 99% clear 1 on its own and them start the other 2

then finish the first 1 and you're only fighting 2 at a time

faster to just do all 3 at once tho

[flint turret]

oooohhhhh

[tulip hollow]

i think most efficient is just run it at 100 corruption though

[flint turret]

i just got yo 469 corr and was trying to do it at once, took like half an hour

i mostly die or run out of time for 1 of them

[flint turret]

just to be clear, i drop omen to the vulnerable phase and open other 2, right?

[tulip hollow]

i think so, when i was doing it I got it to like 90-95% then opened the other 2

cause sometimes when it turns vulnerable i would insta kill it by accident

but if you accidentally kill you can just tp out i guess

[flint turret]

i see, thanks

[tulip hollow]

too bad i can't find a valuable idol altar drop tho 😒

[serene crane]

Well, Artifice relic is quite fun with the bleed Bladestorm+Shurikens... I can just leave the boss at 1500-2000 bleed stacks and monkey run around

[flint turret]

yay observer down in 0lp rend cascade

[finite arch]

is this 21+6+15 or the 21 is from the 6+15?

[junior oriole]

any tips for these poison sludges in omens who keep killing me:(

[flint turret]

funny stuff

[serene crane]

Thats... a lot of stuff all over the place 😄

[lusty wagon]

YESS finally

[serene crane]

Im just trying to stay away from them... hate them since the first moment I ran into them

[finite arch]

oh baby

[junior oriole]

it's on wrecked fleet so already small area is even smaller:(

[wary cedar]

corrupt it

[lusty wagon]

let me go sleep , and hit my t7 MS or DEXT with t6/t7 expérimental Minion transported + dodges before x)

is here but need work

[wary cedar]

i once also had lp3 frost boot
i missed the slam of my triple t7 boots

i never found another lp3 again

[lusty wagon]

bwahahh

[wary cedar]

i still have the triple t7 for imprinting in legacy tho xd

[lusty wagon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Inosukeh/character/Inosukettee

that is my current build

i one shot all mob

[wary cedar]

it had like, t7 movespeed, dex, and cdr iirc

[wary cedar]

isnt that just some generic S Tier Build?

[shrewd dome]

can anyone help me with my weaver tree path? should I b e going down the right side

[wary cedar]

just read bro

if you dont like what you read dont skill it

if it sounds nice

skill it

[shrewd dome]

i just dont wanna get far down the tree and then have to respec the whole thing lol

[wary cedar]

its cheap tho

[shrewd dome]

oh okay

[wary cedar]

but in general you want all the imprints beside the far left one, this isnt really usefull

do the loot lizard stuff

[lusty wagon]

look up i post mine

[wary cedar]

and get the node which turns of corruption gain, so you can toggle that on and off

[candid pebble]

Lagon stood no chance 😄

I can't wait to see how the finale of the story goes

[finite arch]

i love getting 1 shot 🙂

[crimson latch]

How many stacks of shock can a boss or mob have ?

[covert cairn]

@fathom stag you the one that made the 1LP uber killer rogue build?

[solar merlin]

Yo guys, does burning dagger scale with cinder strike nodes like "inferno"?

[pure sequoia]

Does Experimental minon Transport move shadows?

[wary cedar]

i just lost 600 euro

[flint turret]

wtf why tabi gives me much more dps over skin boots on rend cascade

the difference is drastic

47 seconds dummy vs 1.15

[wary cedar]

because they fit the ninja fantasy more than boots made out of flesh

it's the lore!

[flint turret]

i guess ita all those bleed stacks for jormund and more shred stacks

but that was unexpected regardless

also i found out i dont really need reen

jormund+tongue give more damage

[wary cedar]

i m still waiting for a build that uses double smokeweaver 😴

[flint turret]

time travel back a few years

[marble zealot]

it's the double shadow gen, im too dumb to figure if intended or bug

[wary cedar]

or maybe in the future? 🤨

[flint turret]

they dont leave shadows

[marble zealot]

literally doubles dps and i get nothing except the shadow gen from it

[flint turret]

oh wait

yeah i guess its because of the bug

makes sense now

[wary cedar]

bug abusers

[flint turret]

well maybe its nor a bug

[wary cedar]

(i also abuse a bug, but it makes me do less dmg)

[flint turret]

maybe its ui wrong destription or our interpretation

yeah okay we cooking i guess if tabi produce double shadows i can go for +2 shadows primordial

[junior oriole]

bladestorm shurikens vs rend cascade...which has easier time on uber?

[flint turret]

and have 8 shadows

[wary cedar]

heartseeker

[covert cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMKUJWvTch0

[junior oriole]

wtf

[covert cairn]

yep

[flint turret]

asks x vs y, gets linked z. classic

[covert cairn]

well it sorta connects

[junior oriole]

oh usually these types of videos have crazy gear...but this one actually is just reasonable gear

[covert cairn]

yah 1LP

getting the time to one shot is tricky, I pulled it off once but getting better at it now and more consistent

I am sure an experienced player would get it faster than me as i never played multiple button characters

[junior oriole]

can corrupted exalts be used for legendary crafting at julra?

[paper roost]

Not 100%, but I HIGHLY doubt it.

[finite arch]

wow

[wary cedar]

you re a tank now?

[finite arch]

the further you go the more corrupt u get right?

[amber solstice]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ru/QWXO6ra2

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (67) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (1)

General:

▸ Health: 1,847, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 248.58, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 43 Dex / 11 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 57% / 48% / 50% / 101% / 48% / 32% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 369
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (625)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (804)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Dancing Strikes / Shurikens / Bladestorm / Smoke Bomb

[amber solstice]

What would you recommend replacing or adding to the build?

[flint turret]

down to 39s dummy on rend cascade 0-1lps

[wary cedar]

@finite archbtw i can throw shuris now

[finite arch]

you corrupted that

holy hit

[wary cedar]

next i do some other upgrads

and then i want that on my quiver as well

i mean i got T7 icecile corrupt on my quiver rn which is insane, but shuri would be better since i lack the crit

at least i think lack the crit idk acutally

[candid pebble]

When you get to Monoliths, what's the first thing you do? Farm for uniques, or just blitz to Empowered?

[wary cedar]

uniques are random anyway at that point

you ain't got much to force them

later in the game you can with prophecies n shit assuming you re cof

[finite arch]

wanna get to a high corruption

[candid pebble]

Debating on how to tackle monos

Lemme find the build I'm using

[finite arch]

for mono's just choose a direction and go that way

[candid pebble]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bladestorm-bladedancer-guide

I pick whatever I'm in need of, be it drops or EXP

Traitor's Tongue, that's what I need

But that's later in reign of dragons...

[dense wedge]

can someone help me tweak my build a little, i feel as if my character isnt good enough

[wary cedar]

how is this calculated?

[flint turret]

(flat+flat) * (increased+increased)

[wary cedar]

ya did that, my result was 40% lol

oh i need to add the flat on top after it

[flint turret]

?

[wary cedar]

this only calcs the increased crit based on the flat, but flat is flat so you gotta add this at this end as well

[flint turret]

no thats not how it works

[wary cedar]

i have 9% base and the increases do overall increas of 40% so its 49

but then the math works out

[wary cedar]

i call photoshop

[wary cedar]

i literally calced it the way i explained it at got the exact result it shows in the screen lol

[covert cairn]

you the one who made the 1LP 3 second uber killer? i was told you are

[eager mason]

yeah

[serene crane]

Thats him, officer, arrest him

[covert cairn]

question made the build are you able to do it everytime?

I only managed to pull it off once a few times at 10% 36% etc

[eager mason]

I did 3 back to back then moved on from build

[covert cairn]

ah

[eager mason]

just wanted to record it and go back to my bd

[covert cairn]

I keep messing up the timing somehow

[candid pebble]

Does Empowered increase the chances of dropping stuff with LP?

[flint turret]

its 9*5.53

5.53 being 453 increased

[wary cedar]

ok well i did something wrong then but still got the same solution

lol

i calced with 4,53 and the flat is just anoterh 100% increase

[eager mason]

building more damage is always an option so

even if you mess it up you might one shot it with couple more affixes

[covert cairn]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Vuthia/character/slicer

[flint turret]

what made you join the dark side instead of rendin' cascadin' lmin'

[covert cairn]

I have the 3t7 dagger with phys damage% penetration + crit multi but want 4LP traitor before i slam

[wary cedar]

@flint turret anyway the reason i asked for was so i could calculate my actuall crit with heartseeker since the nodes give me 6% flat. With that, and a shuri corrupt affix t6/t7 on bow i would have reached the 100% crit chance for heartseeker. so what i m considering is, if it's then more worth to go for the icecilce corrupt on the quiver?

[covert cairn]

so I did push the damage pretty high, just if miss barely any tankyness to finish the fight

[eager mason]

I am cascade

playing smks build rn

just had to play broken stuff for uber rush

[covert cairn]

I also did get it manageable build in echos btw

[flint turret]

couple of things. flat crit for hs dont transfer to shuri, and you dont need 100% as mm, because you have crit vuln which is 20% flat on top of your end crit number

[covert cairn]

can do around 500 corruption this way

[wary cedar]

so, you do more than 1 point into here? xd

[flint turret]

no 1 is emough for hs to have 10 stacks on bosses

[wary cedar]

so with better corrupt affix on bow and the flat crit node in shuri i achive a crit rate ob 88%, which with the crit vuln would also transalte into 100% crit

the question is just

what does more dmg

[flint turret]

i think shyri is best

[wary cedar]

7% more shuri cance on crit - or 7% chance icecile with attack speed

[flint turret]

you just convert to fire and go dragonfangs

[wary cedar]

at least i think they re comparable so you got to good corrupts you can get on the quiver xd

[wary cedar]

is dragonfang better again? 😔

[flint turret]

if you are thinking about a bow thats dragonsong

[wary cedar]

misread

[flint turret]

im talking abiut dragonfands nodes in hs

[wary cedar]

how would make that the dmg better tho?

[flint turret]

60 flat on average is not a small amount, to both hs, icicles, puncture and shuri

[wary cedar]

oh nvm, dragonfang is the thing that gives to points

[flint turret]

well, unless you are stacking cold res for cold pen

[wary cedar]

how does this convert thing work anyway?

it doesnt convert the boots flat dmg nor the bow cold dmg or?

[flint turret]

yes

it converts the bow base damage and genetic + bow damage if you have is somewhere

[wary cedar]

like this one

[flint turret]

yes

but not the bow cold damage

[wary cedar]

so basically you would just drop the added cold dmg from the convert and make it fire which then can scale for more dmg with dragonfang

and the cold dmg is just doing his own things in the meanwhile

[flint turret]

wdym by drop, it doesnt go anywhere

[wary cedar]

i mean like drop it and just put it there

ik that it doesnt vanish

you just take a part of the dmg and let it scale better

i understand that, but i feel like i m missing some points here to skill it to the max

which would you unskill? i m thinking of hidden skewer and swift and sure

[flint turret]

you dont want flat crit that works only for hs

and 5% as is nothing

[unique umbra]

Anyone know how dex works in dmg calculation of skills?

[flint turret]

its 4% increased damage ands thats about it, unless the skill in question has some specific dex synergies

[wary cedar]

hm but i only need to remove one point from there dont i? just feels better to have it 😔

[unique umbra]

is that added to all the other increased damage types like increased physical, increased melee, etc and then multiplied?

[flint turret]

its just increased damage like any other that you mentioned yes

[unique umbra]

so like you have Base (2 + Added) * Increased (Dex Mod + Phys + Melee + etc) * More * More * More?

[flint turret]

yes

[unique umbra]

thanks

I'm trying to math up my tool tip based on my skill nodes, passives, and gear and it's no where close to what is on the tool tip

[flint turret]

dont bother tooltips always lie

[crimson latch]

dude im so dissapointed with the shadow rend multishot, i was hoping for it to be a good MM build but always melee and throwing > everything with bow

[flint turret]

the best you can do with them is just see the tendency if its going up or down, and even then not always accurate

[unique umbra]

how do you tell how much you're gaining then? just spreadsheet it?

[flint turret]

well we have lastepochtools

it doesnt give you the exact dps number but you can crearly see whats better ior worse with some basic calculations

if you want to measure the dps i can recomennd hitting a boss dummy in arena and clock down the time it takes you to 100-0 it, or if the damage isnt great letsa say how long it takes to shred 10% of it

[unique umbra]

like i don't understand how attack speed factors into skills, does it assume you're spamming the skill and you just multiply your attack speed times everything until you would run out of mana

[flint turret]

i have no idea how tooltip works exactly but if i had to guess - yes

[unique umbra]

this means i have to go back to story to unlock the arena lol, i need to do this anyway

[flint turret]

thats the only reasonable way to measure the actual dps afaik

[wary cedar]

@flint turret does the spell fire dmg from dragonfang apply to icecilcle?

[flint turret]

it gives spell flat too so yes

[wary cedar]

ahcool, also to shuris then

then it's big

[low vector]

i'm looking at Kartal ballista build and I noticed he has skilled shadows on smoke bomb but I dont understand why there's no synergy unless im wrong?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/KARTAL/character/KARTAL0001

[wary cedar]

@flint turret what do you think of low life setup with astral blood and then using nightbringer quiver? the % dmg against slowed enemies and the smaller buffs because you re low life should be pretty good no?

[flint turret]

going lowlife will require you to drop passives for 24% as and 75% crit multi

you decide if worth, i dont really like the idea

well unless coupled with soulgambler amulet

that can be nice

crit paccing wont be that hard with flat crit corruptions and crit per dex on ring(s)

[wary cedar]

oh for the ward gain on crit

[wary cedar]

i just swapped to this setup today since it fixed my survivabilty fast lol

[wary cedar]

isnt the crit per dex crit multi? or do you want to compensate the lost multi from the passive tree with that?

ah nvm

without nihilis i do need to get lucky on some random corruptions for the other items so i can max my res out

[kind adder]

Have we come to a consensus on the best rogue build this season? I'm guessing it's still ballista, is anything else even close?

[flint turret]

crit passive at the end that goves health per crit

[wary cedar]

yes i figured, using the amulet for ward on crit instead

there will be a lot of things needed to come together to make that work lmao

[flint turret]

dam my rend cascade 0-1lp is doing much more damage than 2-3lp LL cascade prev season

and i even tank the regular oro slam

[wary cedar]

@flint turret one last question lol
does soul gambler amulets negative crit calculated like:
my 535% increase - 50%
or
does it take my final crit chance and just takes - 50% of that, so would make me at least need to 130% crit chance
?

[flint turret]

its 50% LESS

end *0.5

[wary cedar]

so i need 160%

[flint turret]

yeah to get to 80 in the end

[wary cedar]

so slamming T7s 10% flat crit on bow is good again? xd

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKgDVwm2

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (10) / Marksman (71)

General:

▸ Health: 1,541, Regen: 31.28/s
▸ Mana: 196.05, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 84%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 120 Dex / 17 Int / 29 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 58% / 86% / 88% / 101% / 58% / 80% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 308
▸ Dodge Chance: 52% (2027)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,284)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 50%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Puncture / Shurikens / Heartseeker / Dark Quiver

[wary cedar]

that's what i planned lol

hell of a grind to go

[flint turret]

if you are aiming for soulgambler yeah definetly

if not then no

[wary cedar]

lucky me having like 8 bows still in my chest with that

[finite arch]

oh your using shadow rend

[wary cedar]

at this point i m doing everything just to not build after generic guides lol

[pulsar solar]

Does that node not working only by me??

[finite arch]

oh lol

its your shift pretty much

[wary cedar]

it's bugged

or the descriptions are wrong

[serene crane]

For me sometimes it procced, sometimes it didnt... no clue

[wary cedar]

this node here makes it's not working anymore, despite specifically saying that "shadow rush" still moves you

but obviously it wont work with the tabi boots

(in case you re using them)

(and in case if you 're testing it without "night's approach" right now make sure to stand next to enemies since it's a requirement for "loose pockets" xd)

[serene crane]

Maybe the distance was the issue then... 😄

[finite arch]

omg im supposed to pick up the dark quiver arrows

................................