I honestly care more about whether it's gonna be "strong" strong or not. I want a giga rogue skill that isn't falconer tech
#🔪┃rogue
flint turret
Kinda funny how the new remade passive benefits falconer the most... As always
toxic swift
what BD desperately needs is something that ties all the disparate skills together in a way that enables new playstyles beyond sync -> damage skill spam
atomic vapor
I'm so desperate for high end powercreepish bd damage that it can be anything
sync sypport or not
I wanna see bd murder the entire game even for just one season
flint turret
if lich can kill uber in seconds, bd deserves to as well
I don't want a skill that deletes Uber in seconds or a minute tbh. I'd rather prefer a great designed skill like hs
atomic vapor
it can be well designed and not fall back compared to the rest of the stronger builds (and delete uber in seconds after sweaty gear investment)
hs is alright but 4min kills with 2 t7 gear isn't what I'd wanna see
toxic swift
I wanna see bd murder the entire game even for just one season
I mean BD kinda did this from when it was introduced to when 1.0 came out
flint turret
With this one I kinda agree but it's not a bd problem it's a falconer problem as always
toxic swift
for sure, but that's as much an indictment of trap as it is BD
atomic vapor
to be fair it's not 100% a falconer problem this time since the umbral tech got capped
trap alone wouldn't be enough to create this dps
fire pen scaling with fire res is insane
and that's flask's problem
ofc trap helps it
but the scaling is still crazy
flint turret
I would love to see changes to lm and dancing that would make them a good damage skills but tbh I have more faith in a new skill rather than ehg remaking old ones
atomic vapor
I'd enjoy a strong bd skill that hits like cascade but constantly
but ik you wouldn't like something that strong
flint turret
and that's flask's problem
No one played flask before traps, just saying
It was literally one of the worst skills
It was like decoy basically
Same for ballista
atomic vapor
I don't know, maybe then it's itemization? because trap also got nerfed and the mana cost is sick, the fact that it's now sustainable is a testament of how far gear has gone
flint turret
I'd enjoy a strong bd skill that hits like cascade but constantly
Cascade can hit constantly without much issues
toxic swift
try playing a flask BD w/o trap and tell me if you think it's busted
use the traditional sync + flask
atomic vapor
I guess in a sense trap does work like AA
throws too much of something not meant to be thrown as much
flint turret
Pretty much yeah
toxic swift
falconer is honestly the worst designed mastery they've made in terms of how stupid strong it is
broken at its core
flint turret
I still don't understand why falconer needed that razor boots added after it being completely broken even without them
atomic vapor
what I'm wondering is, if this isn't what they wanted/aimed for, why does current lich exist
near immortal and deletes uber in seconds
because you can't create a monster twice and say whoopsie
toxic swift
they did it with VK too
flint turret
near immortal and deletes uber in seconds
Well it's fine being op straight from a conveyor belt, it all depends on what they are going to do with it
atomic vapor
timerot jav was an accident, I bet they didn't foresee it. mana stack flay and razorfalls was no accident
imo there's a difference there
flint turret
So far the only mastery I know of that was completely op AND got buffed the next season is falconer
atomic vapor
tbf the buff came after divebomb nerf 
toxic swift
you're also leaving out that they also introduced traitor's at the same time as razorfall
atomic vapor
that's true but let's be honest, none of the stats are mandatory on it. you can crit cap, you're fine without the +2 skills, and multi is just multi
flint turret
Traitor was needed for bd who lost death door flat crit
atomic vapor
yeah I agree traitor was made with bd in mind
hence the AS
which falconer has no need for
flint turret
Without tongue bd was left without any throwing flat crit at all
atomic vapor
velocyn on the other hand I really like. strong enough to justify prim slot, and one of the actually functioning prims
idk how bd could ever use it becuase no reen
but it exists
flint turret
Yeah it's not really better than other prim options on bd
It's alright for throwing tho
Because you don't use reen
toxic swift
I'm really liking wings of discord for bd
atomic vapor
i think what I like about it is that it has exactly the powercreep looking stats that you'd expect from an item you can wear one of
flint turret
I'm really liking wings of discord for bd
Yeah I was torn between them and low life. Probably should have gone with discord instead
Doing Uber with ward build somewhat broke me
flint turret
Discord is better for idols imo
zenith bridge
I don't know if it's confirmed yet that it will be a bd skill. I'd rather have a rogue skill for more build variety. Something like flurry/cinder possible to use with bow/melee...just stronger pls.
flint turret
And we also potentialy have Uber relic which is already crazy
zenith bridge
Mike said something about 2 skills theyve been working on a coule of weeks ago
but maybe only adding one
flint turret
If we are getting both that even better
toxic swift
man I really hope they allow flurry, cinder, and puncture to use shadows in a meaningful way
bold brook
i personally would rather see a rogue support skill that can rival smoke bomb
and have cinder/flurry be buffed
toxic swift
or it would be sick if the puncture mirages left behind shadows
atomic vapor
there's not a lot of skills in the game as a whole that can rival smoke bomb
bold brook
true
toxic swift
and if they attacked inwards a bit
flint turret
Yeah I was hoping for puncture mirages node that would allow it to target cursor for years already
flint turret
i personally would rather see a rogue support skill that can rival smoke bomb
I think we already have more than enough. Support umbrals, trap attach, smoke, dancing. Not enough slots to use all supports already
Cascade can also be support
Bladeshield support
toxic swift
we need more options for primary & secondary damage dealers
flint turret
Yeah I'd agree
bold brook
I think we already have more than enough. Support umbrals, trap attach, smoke, ...
we have skills that can be specced to be in a supportive role, but the only true support skills as a whole are smoke and decoy (and i guess dark quiver and dancing if we count class specific)
but smoke just goes in almost every build because its just that good
flint turret
Both bd exclusive skills don't really serve well as main damage sources. Lm kinda can but the gameplay is frustrating
bold brook
another option to take instead of smoke would be nice imo
flint turret
but smoke just goes in almost every build because its just that good
Yeah and that's exactly the issue. If you are saying I want a new support skill that means it will have to compete with smoke. And smoke is already super strong. So we either get a new skill that will go in all builds and be even more powerful or no one will use it and keep smoke
toxic swift
I feel like smoke is so good because there's usually not much else that is pushing it out of its slot
toxic swift
like okay you take sync, a damage skill, then you have 3 free slots and there's only so much to choose from
flint turret
Traversal is another option, because we basically have one being shift
Smoke is ofc an option but it's not traversal to begin with
But traversal runs into the same issue as support with shift and smoke Trav being just super good already
So tbh I'd rather see a new main damage skill for bd
Or shadow gen skill IF they do something about lm and dancing
Just had a crazy idea which actually sounds pretty good
Change bd mastery bonus to shadows expiring after 2nd attack and not 1st
zenith bridge
The new dex scaling passive tells me they want us to play mourningfrost..again. Maybe a cold skill
flint turret
The new dex scaling passive tells me they want us to play mourningfrost..again. ...
I'm a bit worried about dex scaling on bd too
zenith bridge
i never played one dex scaling bd build
bold brook
attribute stacking is kind of a snooze imo, especially when falconer is already going hard with it
and marksman has some too
flint turret
I guess it kinda makes sense because mm got hs with dex scaling so maybe the new bd skill will also have dex scaling
bold brook
bd not feeling forced into red ring is so nice
flint turret
Both a blessing and a curse
If you want 20 Dr from rings on bd you have no use for dex 
flint turret
i never played one dex scaling bd build
Int scaling bd with staff new meta? 
And wildfire
toxic swift
I've only ever scaled dex on bd for mounringfrost
zenith bridge
I also remember Reimerh saying, that they maybe rework shadow daggers being more related to the actual shadow mechanic. He told us after we asked why they added sd dmg threshold bonus on Skiasynthesis instead of Once
flint turret
I really wonder when they will make a staff to use with that falconer passive. It has been 3 seasons already
zenith bridge
And wildfire
im still so mad that they didnt change anything about wildfire in s3. They had enough time to mechanically change it
flint turret
I also remember Reimerh saying, that they maybe rework shadow daggers being more...
Sounds good. I wouldn't mind sd having it's own tree even
bold brook
maybe a skill like Gathering Storm that has a bunch of shadow daggers nodes that apply to any shadow daggers
flint turret
im still so mad that they didnt change anything about wildfire in s3. They had e...
But dread said they did
bold brook
or i guess cinder does that with burning daggers
zenith bridge
But dread said they did
we talked about it couple of weeks ago, while we were both testing the amulet with different skills. I didnt see any difference when i tested it with rogue
he did some acolyte testing
bold brook
a shadow gen skill that modifies shadow daggers could be cool
zenith bridge
nah the spread mechanic is still the same
flint turret
I wonder why it's different for aco and rogue
toxic swift
I think we already have more than enough. Support umbrals, trap attach, smoke, ...
ngl I've been kinda sleeping on trap attach for BD
zenith bridge
i think he just used a big aoe skill, therefore it looked like the prolif spread was quicker
which makes sense compared to heartseeker single target behaviour
flint bough
im starting to get 1 hit by melee attack in confluence of oblivion at 2000c lol
flint turret
ngl I've been kinda sleeping on trap attach for BD
It's... Okay-ish... "Decent" amount of dusks on bosses but it's not THAT good. It needs buffs to be more viable
toxic swift
it definitely juices my boss dps on my chakram build
flint turret
It can replace umbrals and apply chill instead of them, it gives dusks, but that's pretty much it
toxic swift
was using net previously
flint turret
It's best for dot builds imo
Because more damage per maximum trap node works with trap attach
zenith bridge
I hope the new bd exclusive skill can be a viable option to generate shadows. Almost every top bd build is sync strike into dmg dealer.
flint turret
But there are no such good builds hey sadly
I was intending to do a cinder cascade with wildfire but wildfire disappointed the crap out of me so I didn't
If they don't fix concentration in s4 I'm gonna lose it
zenith bridge
If they don't fix concentration in s4 I'm gonna lose it
Oh trust me, they won't 😅
flint turret
I'm used to having stuff not working properly but this one is an actual sabotage decreasing your damage
raw zodiac
whats better for multishot - nightbringer or crystal wind
fossil tartan
Hey all, does anyone know what the BASE freeze number is for cold hits with the Flask of Volatile Ice Acid Flask? I know it has a lot of frostbite and freeze rate% increase, but not the base number of the skill getting multiplied. Apparently it can freeze.... but the item and tooltips don't say anything about the numbers
blazing radish
I want to farm specifically for the Level of Acid Flask T8 armor
Among these Woven Echoes, which one do you think is the most efficient?
- Cave of Shadows
- Vault of the Barnacle King
- Unclaimed Trove
flint turret
I want to farm specifically for the Level of Acid Flask T8 armor
Among these Wov...
imprint t7 flask and troves i guess... but im more interested about why would you need t8 flask
if you could put t7 on elecoe and use Permanence of Primal Knowledge and get +8 instead of +6 if you want flask levels that much, or primo dagger
blazing radish
imprint t7 flask and troves i guess... but im more interested about why would yo...
I've got some spare Primordial slots and I'm looking for more attack speed, so I'm aiming for T8
I'm currently running a dagger but planning to swap to a torch
flint turret
gloves and rings roll higher throwing speed
blazing radish
I only realized afterwards that rings can give attack speed, but I've already sunk money into these two, so I'd rather not swap them out
wraith nacelle
Did any one play the bleed heartseeker that I saw a couple proposed builds for at the beginning of the season ? I'm just curiosa how it went , if it could do high core ectara
zenith bridge
Did any one play the bleed heartseeker that I saw a couple proposed builds for a...
Deep Rust conversion doesnt work with the new primo bleed pop gloves. That was the only interesting mechanic for bleed hs. So its still the old s2 version.
sly hornet
I only realized afterwards that rings can give attack speed, but I've already su...
Attack Speed is kinda huge though
wraith nacelle
Deep Rust conversion doesnt work with the new primo bleed pop gloves. That was t...
dam maybe a buff to it next season if it can access the new bleed poison passive
flint turret
this season was both exiting and dissapointing. new primo items looked super good but lots of them turned out not what we expected, and we got even more new bugs for old stuff like concentration
hopefully the expansion will be good
baiting players with one of the best arpg mechanics of dot prolif just to end up making it almost garbage is pure evil ngl
marsh plank
dam maybe a buff to it next season if it can access the new bleed poison passive
I was able to stack poisons way easier than bleeds, I could see poison possibly working.
wraith nacelle
I was able to stack poisons way easier than bleeds, I could see poison possibly ...
that would be cool to try , I went back to my crit hs and worked is wings of discord and I'm getting slightly better damage but id like to try an ailment version possibly next season
marsh plank
heart seeker can convert armor shred to poison and its really easy to stack armour shred
raw zodiac
whats the safest 1lp red ring slam for a rogue - t7 dex right
wraith nacelle
whats the safest 1lp red ring slam for a rogue - t7 dex right
depends on the build , a lot do use dex but some do use other mods . What build are you playing ?
raw zodiac
switching between multishot marksmans + heartseeker bleed/icicle marksman
wraith nacelle
switching between multishot marksmans + heartseeker bleed/icicle marksman
if your stacking dex for morning frost boots dex would be the way other wise if your going more ailment focus I'm not 100% sure to be honest and I don't want to miss steer you if that's the case
faint sail
I remember many versions ago that rogue had a very easy way to get armor shred on bees summoned by the hive mind... was that patched out at some point or am I tripping?
cobalt mantle
I remember many versions ago that rogue had a very easy way to get armor shred o...
Either the mace or Julra's
toxic swift
does truesight work with salt the wound 🤔
cobalt mantle
does truesight work with salt the wound 🤔
No, StW just converts your global crit multi
flint bough
1 more shade to 2k corruption on bladedancer 😄
faint sail
Either the mace or Julra's
Hmm... might of been a bug then
graceful notch
I just realized Synchronized Strike + Shadow Cascade isn’t really my thing. I’ll come back when Dancing Strikes gets a buff 
rare halo
any good builds for umbrel blade falconer? can hardly push down bosses at 400 corruption using maxroll guide atm
atomic vapor
any good builds for umbrel blade falconer? can hardly push down bosses at 400 co...
@dire forge link your planner when you're not busy because I can't find the link to mine (at work) 😭
rare halo
Ty
dire forge
<@254366377488416768> link your planner when you're not busy because I can't fin...
Sure will import it in a sec
sharp ravenBOT
paper locust
How does the bottom right corner of dive bomb work?
I don't understand how "Birds aren't real" "On wings of shadow" and "Dancing shadows" interact.
I have all three and it seems only one attack occurs, which shouldn't be the case.
I do Synchronized Strike and drop a smoke bomb and it doesn't seem to change what happens.
The expectation is that the overlapped region of smoke bomb and shadows should trigger two attacks, but it doesn't seem to?
Maybe it's happening so fast, but I doubt it.
Ok, respec'd and that was it.
Birds aren't real INTERFERES WITH EVERYTHING.
WHY?!
Yeah, it stops dancing, it stops on wings.
Replaces the entire attack with one shadow bird that attacks one time only.
flint bough
woot 2k on bladedancer
inland yacht
what build
dire forge
Ok, respec'd and that was it.
Birds aren't real INTERFERES WITH EVERYTHING.
WHY...
You should read one of the latest patch notes for Season 1.2, birds aren't real has been "reworked" cuz it was too strong xD
inland yacht
I was never a fan of the extended combo setup for playing with shadows
flint bough
I was never a fan of the extended combo setup for playing with shadows
what do you mean?
inland yacht
having to generate them over a couple of abilities to get the payoff with your last one
just like a gameplay flow thing I wasn't a fan of
similar to black arrow -> shift -> hail of arrows
flint bough
ah i see
I'm comfortably running 2k corruption. I think I can manage 2.5k and maybe 3k. Let's see
and my build isn't completely optimized. I still need shattered worlds and to slam it
toxic swift
should get an immortal vise too
sly hornet
I'm comfortably running 2k corruption. I think I can manage 2.5k and maybe 3k. L...
Are you clearing the same speed as 1k? Or are you trying to push?
dire forge
woot 2k on bladedancer
you inspired me, yesterday was at 850C, now climbing to 2k too
sly hornet
Why were you at 850 if you're capable of going up to 2k?
dire forge
cuz i had no balls
sly hornet
Fair XD
dire forge
thought i'm gonna die like a stomped maggot
sly hornet
I get that
dire forge
and now i see after defense layers i have it's manageable
sly hornet
Are you in HC?
dire forge
NO
sly hornet
Oh
dire forge
i lost a deathless status on lv2
sly hornet
Had a very well geared Froggo Beastmaster
dire forge
oh well, i wouldn't try HC in this game like ever
sly hornet
HC is LE is very doable even for a scrub like myself XD
dire forge
oh no no, no way i'm trying it
too many random oneshots
and you can't carry people, kinda shit since i like helping with uber and stuff like that when i have time
sly hornet
I wouldn't say there are any random one shots in LE
In PoE I would 100% agree, but not in LE
I stopped playing HC in PoE for that exact reason xD
dire forge
profane champion oneshotting you when moving down the map for example
unless you run like 200-300C on a 4-5k hp character
sly hornet
My only death this season has been to Uberoth and me playing like a turd because I have the attention span of a turd XD
dire forge
then ofc irrelevant
hmm then you must be better than me, i'm pretty reckless so there's that
sly hornet
I was running 1.4k corruption on my Froggo
sly hornet
I died to Uberoth because I can't pay attention to boss mechanics for the life of me
dire forge
nah actually on uber i pay a lot of attention to the mechanics and listening to him
sly hornet
Currently leveling up a Popcorn Necro atm
dire forge
vol zombie or what
sly hornet
I try to pay attention but my attention span is awful
Like seriously
I can pay attention to either 0 things or 1 thing, any more is not possible XD
sly hornet
I was hoping my passive regen would carry more than it did XD
dire forge
for example cruising black blade while pizza slamming
sly hornet
I should probably make a Judgement Pally for Uber, that can probably face tank most of it
dire forge
last time i somehow managed to kill him at the last phase with him slamming a purple trail inside
i was like how the hell did i not die
xD
dire forge
I should probably make a Judgement Pally for Uber, that can probably face tank m...
ye pally kinda sick for uber
sly hornet
But outside of Uberoth I think LE in general is pretty chill assuming you don't slack on your defences
dire forge
yeah rogue player here soooo
sly hornet
Rogue is less chill XD
dire forge
even with 2x RR, perf SW, less damage taken from falc tree, huge dodge and silver shrouds she likes a bonk on her head
sly hornet
I pretty much only play minion builds
dire forge
i tried enough minion builds on earlier patches to be fed up with them now
sly hornet
I could never
I have 20k hours in PoE give or take playing minion builds, and a few hundred here and there in other ARPGs
dire forge
oh that's a no no for me xD
i tried abom, wraiths and arch cryomancer and that's enough
sly hornet
I am something of a minion enthusiast
dire forge
yeah heard of those people hehe
sly hornet
My Popcorn Skelly build is decent at least in HC due to how tanky it is. But it still pales in comparison.
And it barely qualifies as a minion build.
But I guess it is technically at least that is what I tell myself XD
dire forge
if you think so then it's the most important haha
sly hornet
It feels like a caster, but it is my mages doing the damage technically xD
dire forge
at least you're doing something ig
sly hornet
It is a nice change from Frogs
sly hornet
How much of the work does the Falcon actually do?
sly hornet
Kinda what I thought XD
sly hornet
Ballista Falconer is technically a minion build...
dire forge
it scales with minion damage so it must be right xD
sly hornet
Yeaah
So now I just need an idea for a pet mage build
And I can have pet builds on all classes
dire forge
pet mage? that doesn't sound good haha
sly hornet
I'm not even sure if Mage has a pet build XD
I certainly can't think of one off the top of my head
sly hornet
Hydrahedron sounds like it could be a pet build, but no minion damage scaling
So that's a hard sell XD
dire forge
i mean yeah hydra is an invocation
atomic vapor
you inspired me, yesterday was at 850C, now climbing to 2k too
dude you can go like 5k with your gear
no exaggeration
hell, you can go 5k with my gear
dire forge
dude you can go like 5k with your gear
oh hello Jorge, missed u
realized i'm an idiot btw
dire forge
i was wondering how you got to have those 25-26 dusk shrouds on your build
turns out i didn't put 3 points into a very important node on dive bomb xd
dire forge
nah, put 5/5 into MA
instead of 2/5 into MA and then flock or crows 3/3
now reaching 29-30 on a still boss like owobyss
dire forge
yeah thought about that as well
but
where would i put those remaining 2 points
oh crap
i know where
oh shit traversal recovery
atomic vapor
I have 1 point there but I can't tell if it does anything tbh
this is what I ran before I stoppped
dire forge
hmm
focused hunter kinda tempting but 8% dmg and -4 mana cost isn't that big
yeah but MA into rapid pursuit might be a huge call
atomic vapor
dmg is irrelevant from focused hunter
just the mana cost
divebomb does absolutely nothing
atomic vapor
like with falconry for example
all of these are completely useless
but I don't like seeing unspecced points
dire forge
yeah if he's not supposed to deal dmg as he did in prev patch then yes
atomic vapor
was the case even after post patch when the focus shifted out of divebomb and onto umbral blades
I slowed down dummy tests to see individual numbers before blade explosion pops
and they're all 5 digit
compared to 8 digit bladestorm pops
they're 1000% irrelevant
you don't scale bird so all bird things are dead
dire forge
sad moment for a bird
on corruption 1981 nemesis started oneshotting me with his basic melee attack, hmmm
atomic vapor
from that point onwards you silver shroud anything
doesn't matter if you're 1k or 3k health
you're oneshot
go dodge blessings and idols wherever you can
atomic vapor
basically all of the shade fights are gonna be a mix of rng and touhou
at 5k corruption I couldn't take white mob hits at 3k health
dire forge
oh i'm good at touhou, a little rusty after 2 years break but still got that in me
5k is awful
sly hornet
3k health is basically nothing
dire forge
2,2k here on glass cannon setup, 3k on normal one
atomic vapor
no, I meant at 2k where he's at
stable anchor
well in a vacuum 3k ain’t a lot but it depends on what your other dr layers are
sly hornet
I'm not sure what layers you could have at 5k depth to make 3k health good
dire forge
50 red rings equipped would do the job ig 
atomic vapor
less dmg taken becomes suboptimal extremely fast because it's multiplicative
dire forge
yeah that's what i don't like, just learned that in 1.2 or 1.3
always thought it's additive xD
sly hornet
That would be absurd lol
atomic vapor
lol
stable anchor
I'm not sure what layers you could have at 5k depth to make 3k health good
my forge guard has like 3.2k but 100% block with 78% eff, 82% armor, bunch of straight dr, like 80% armor to dot, etc. i don’t bother with 5k but even pizza slams do nothing
dire forge
oh my bad xD lack of knawledge
dire forge
80k? let me show u something
sly hornet
my forge guard has like 3.2k but 100% block with 78% eff, 82% armor, bunch of st...
I wouldn't be surprised if mobs at 5k corruption dealt more damage than even Uberoth
stable anchor
i prob won’t bother taking bro to 5k because he’s a slow fella but i bet if i dropped dev orb for rebuke i could facetank it
stable anchor
ye they would 100%
dire forge
atomic vapor
we're talking worlds apart
sly hornet
lmao
dire forge
16,5k C orobyss
sly hornet
100k overkill XD
stable anchor
but it’s like 200k ehp or something stupid like that with my buffs up
atomic vapor
is that that one annoying streamer that keeps smashing his head against the wall with ballista
stable anchor
and i could always rebuke on top of that but i never need to as everything stays stunlocked
dire forge
is that that one annoying streamer that keeps smashing his head against the wall...
i mean i like him xD we tried confluence together
stable anchor
at 5kc there’s no form of ethical defense that will be sufficient really though
atomic vapor
Bro he's like a google play ad
sly hornet
Is ballista the best pushing build?
dire forge
apparently crit void meteor of doom hits for 68M
atomic vapor
I've seen newbies play better
stable anchor
Is ballista the best pushing build?
debatable, it’s up there
dire forge
hm maybe yeah but it's enjoyable to see someone trying that hard
atomic vapor
if you don't mind deaths I think umbrals are better
dire forge
i prefer to see someone trying hard than someone playing poe2
sly hornet
I always stop at 1k or not that long after 1k corruption
Never gone over or even got close to 2k
stable anchor
the biggest problem with ballista is not hits because you have perma silver but dot pools 1 tick you
sly hornet
Even at 1.4k that was getting pretty spicy lol
stable anchor
2k is where ethical defense starts to fall apart
dire forge
even earlier 300 something
atomic vapor
I was running 2k consistently last season but with s2 umbrals you didn't really need defense
flint bough
as a bladedancer
atomic vapor
everything insta popped
dire forge
yeah as it does now with proper gear Jorge
stable anchor
if you don't mind deaths I think umbrals are better
explain
dire forge
but it costs sooo much more to gear up to a relevant level
sly hornet
im doing 2k comfortably right now
I am in HC, so the risk isn't really worth the benefit
atomic vapor
it kiiiinda does but it's not the same
dire forge
i mean having anything above 1kC is for bragging rights only
atomic vapor
explain
it has better concentrated damage in one single spot that you can direct offscreen and with what is effectively 0 mana cost. so you can take a step, click offscreen constantly, take another step
sly hornet
Kinda?
atomic vapor
and pushing starts feeling the same outside of shades
sly hornet
It does help
atomic vapor
and shades are touhou in both ballista and umbrals
sly hornet
But it has massive dimishing returns
You should only go higher if it doesn't slow you down really
Or if you just want to push a build to it's limits
atomic vapor
also with umbrals you have crazy cdr on smoke bomb so consistent silver shroud generation
stable anchor
it has better concentrated damage in one single spot that you can direct offscre...
ballista is this but you don’t have to click though bc they auto target
dire forge
yeah pushing the limits was the reason for me
did a sub-1 uber run so now it was just how far can we go
atomic vapor
ballista is this but you don’t have to click though bc they auto target
yes that's what I'm saying, I find that to be a drawback
dire forge
yes 1k is a sweet spot
stable anchor
yes that's what I'm saying, I find that to be a drawback
i can’t say i see how this is a bad thing for pushing, especially with their range being like 2 full screens
dire forge
on 2k you simply have to play with someone so you can resurrect each other without losing loot
flint bough
i think I can get 3k before i run into any issues tbh
but if you're HC 1000+ 1 hits inevitable
atomic vapor
i can’t say i see how this is a bad thing for pushing, especially with their ran...
I can't explain the feeling but I feel like with umbrals being able to direct 16 explosions on a rare gives you so much control
dire forge
on hc i wouldn't dare going over 500
stable anchor
ye going over 1k on HC for sure is like
dire forge
but i like my falconer so that's why, i don't like those bonk or ES/WP tanky ass builds
sly hornet
I mean, it depends
stable anchor
you’re asking for your char to die
stable anchor
it’s admittedly been a while since i played HC as i lost too many characters to bugs/dc
sly hornet
I switched to offline because the servers this season were whack XD
atomic vapor
brb for a bit, silksonging
sly hornet
I play almost exclusively solo anyway and the friend I usualy play with has been taken by WoW
stable anchor
not even just dc i’ve lost too many to bugs too
and it’s like
if i die and it’s my fault i can live with that
sly hornet
I haven't encountered any bugs like that thankfully
I died to Uberoth and it was 100% my fault XD
sly hornet
How so?
stable anchor
last time i played hc i died to invisible uber xddddd
sly hornet
Oh yeah, MG isn't an option obv
I prefer CoF anyway though
Invisible Uber?!
Oh no XD
stable anchor
that was the nail in the coffin of me never playing hc again
sly hornet
It's been pretty bug free for me
dire forge
invisible uber lul
sly hornet
At least, game breaking bugs like that XD
dire forge
i had something like that on a regular aberroth fight
those 2 morons before the actual fight vanished after alt-tabbing
they were dealing damage, i just couldn't see them so started blasting in every direction
stable anchor
it’s happened to me a few times in softcore as well, sometimes if he goes offscreen (when fighting the harbingers) he doesn’t reappear when he comes back on your screen
dire forge
wow
sly hornet
Oh man, it's late. An hour late for bed... Welp... G'night peeps 😂
dire forge
good night
paper locust
You should read one of the latest patch notes for Season 1.2, birds aren't real ...
Ok so it would be too strong if you didn't run falcon.
It would enable you to get the massive payoff without training falcon.
However if you are running falcon already, it's the difference of one or two hits from the falcon
dire forge
it's related to how strong falcon hit in 1.2, those one or two hits were a lot in prev patch
paper locust
it's related to how strong falcon hit in 1.2, those one or two hits were a lot i...
I get it, but now the capstone skill for the set breaks the set.
Also I don't buy that tbh. The combo hits a magnitude harder.
But even if I accept that, it's unintuitive
dire forge
well it was also about the fact there was a tech that if you interrupted dive bomb cast it would cast much more falcons so it became a machinegun
paper locust
They should fix the bug then. this seems like a cop out
Do something else. Move the capstone out or something. At LEAST add a note that it's not compatible.
It's not that I can't do it. IDC. It's that I couldn't figure out what the problem was. That's the bs.
paper locust
Yep. Exactly
dire forge
yep should've been mentioned somewhere
graceful notch
5 times 😭
sly hornet
You guys inspired me last night, I am going to make a rogue in SC and try and push my corruption as high as possible!
5k here we come 😂
sly hornet
Just started my journey
raw zodiac
whats the fastest marksman mapper
multishot
or
heartseeker + reign of winter icicle
wraith nacelle
whats the fastest marksman mapper
multishot
or
heartseeker + reign of winter ic...
I personally like RoW heatseeker my self it can speed map 1k with okay gear
languid drift
Hey guys first time playing, just started last night, how hard is it to obtain a drelkors compass? Trying to do a multi shot build
blazing radish
It’s not too hard
You’ll usually have it by around level 80, basically by the time you’re done with the non-empowered Monoliths
raw zodiac
Probably shadow hoa
i ended up doing shadow HoA- fast, but a tad bit slower than multishot.
pretty satisfying seeing the screen cleared from 1 HoA lol
flint bough
@bold brook hey what was your issue with 2k+ corruption I'm wondering? I'm at 2.1k and can continue pushing with ease. Maybe it's because I have a high dodge rating? When I'm in combat it goes to 81-82% chance to dodge
bold brook
wasn't really any issue, just got bored of pushing haha
reef kernel
Just started creating a rogue.. umbral blades seems chill does area of affect get better with skills as you go up? And is it uber viable @flint bough .. never done uber lol or over 600 really and always just followed builds where i think i used uniques too early instead of just exalt gear
flint bough
Just started creating a rogue.. umbral blades seems chill does area of affect ge...
bladedancer is what im doing right now and is quite squishy against uber tbh I can't do it lol
reef kernel
bladedancer is what im doing right now and is quite squishy against uber tbh I c...
Fair enough lol wouldnt mind pushing corruption either way. Have a void warpath build going that i think ill try to push for uber specifically. I think my issue has always been gearing and trying to figure out which matter the most per changes.
flint bough
bladedancer is great against common enemies. I can carve them with ease and im at 2.1k corruption right now
bosses are hard because in melee range you can get 1 hit quite easily
reef kernel
Ive had around 10 characters over 95 that ive given up on because i just dont know how to push them higher or what to grind for specifically to create that extra umph lol
And ya that makes sense i was thinking of going ballista but dont know when to transition or even how to.. running 2100 is still crazy
flint bough
this is my build if you're interested. I love bladedancer. Very fun and addicting. I recommend it 🙂
reef kernel
Whats the rotation? (In case i give it a go) with my luck even after reading through skills id do it wrong
flint bough
okay so you only need to use 3 skills
shadow cascade, syncronized strike, shift
shift triggers both umbral blades and shurikens
so you dont have to worry about using those skills at all
if you want i can show you gameplay
reef kernel
Hell ya
flint bough
basically what you do is
use syncronized strike to create shadows
then use shadow cascade cascade to get all the shadows to use it
i can show you
flint bough
@bold brook if I slam shattered worlds with a sentinel relic does it change the shattered worlds into sentinel?
bold brook
<@296410303338643456> if I slam shattered worlds with a sentinel relic does it c...
if it slams a sentinel specific affix 100% yes, i dont remember what happens if it only slams generic affixes
flint bough
if it slams a sentinel specific affix 100% yes, i dont remember what happens if ...
it has no specific class related affixes
just general stuff like the endurance and health that i want on it
kind atlas
it will stay generic if that's the case
icy willow
What spec are folks using for bow builds? Seems I can't find any marksman builds.
flint bough
@bold brook can you link me your build? I want to check something
the build guide
found it sorry
raw zodiac
To wrap up szn 3 marksman what's the best t8 or primordial for a reign of winter icicle marksman
icy willow
Do we got a marksman build floating around?
wraith nacelle
Do we got a marksman build floating around?
theres a couple decentt builds out there. There is a heart seeker (ailment or crit ) and there is also a hail of arrows set up out there too.
marsh plank
To wrap up szn 3 marksman what's the best t8 or primordial for a reign of winter...
I did T8 health % and it was pretty huge. But I play hardcore.
wraith nacelle
To wrap up szn 3 marksman what's the best t8 or primordial for a reign of winter...
personally I'm running wings of discord but iv also seen some people running the mega crit ammy for sofcore at least
marsh plank
Crit Ammy is good
raw zodiac
T8 dex on body is pretty huge - +42 lol
marsh plank
That is huge
wicked loom
anyone tried hydra arc heartseeker fire spec with burning daggers?
flint turret
The only way to somewhat decently sustain burning daggers is to use drelkors
Maybe you can come up with something to sustain mana with hydra but that will be tricky I would assume
marsh plank
I dont think hydra bow can compete with dragon song just because its easy to get 2-3 LP with dragon and hydra is much harder
lapis pumice
ye also hydra's main perk would be the flat but it doesnt apply to daggers
since it's a throwing attack
even @graceful notch gave up on getting a good high lp hydra
tells u a lot about the item 👍
graceful notch
😭
After having bought all 1k Primordial materials, I realized I don’t have the ability to find a good roll Hydral and gave up
atomic vapor
Yeah if kuden gives up on an item, it's a good indication to stay away from it
marsh plank
Hydra might still be useful but I just don't think its with heartseeker. I tried it with multishot and it wasn't too bad
flint turret
Dunno, maybe something like lowlife hs with night quiver and lots of bow flat idols
And soulgambler
Without mourningfrost
Even tho ll is tough because of great passives that also give life on hit
flint turret
dam that news post is depressing ngl, but i expected as much after the krafton announcement, that they were in fact heading to a bankruptcy
atomic vapor
We knew that more or less
No way those skins sold like hot cakes
Let's see what happens going forward
toxic swift
imo expecting to have your niche genre game be fully profitable off cosmetic MTX alone when there's already a dominant juggernaut in the genre doing the same thing, but far more established, is a bit naive
it also feels silly to say "maybe we'll charge" and immediately follow that by saying "we haven't been profitable for nearly 2 years"
it's going to cost money lmao
atomic vapor
I think the maybe was a big mistake as well
flint turret
No way those skins sold like hot cakes
Tbf there is awfully low amount of cosmetic items still
And I'm not even talking about alternate animations for skills
atomic vapor
there's so few of everything and imo the supporter packs aren't good enough
flint turret
If "we" don't want to pay for stash tabs, having a paid expansion once in a while makes sense
flint turret
there's so few of everything and imo the supporter packs aren't good enough
Yeah
dire forge
thanks devs, desynced again and can't move and pick up a 2lp cleaver, pog game 10/10
needed to lure a monster to hit me and it worked, in 2 or 3 hits i went back to being able to move
daring dragon
has anyone done a build with blast rain explosive trap recently?
flint bough
how do you bladedancers avoid tremor stomp?
zenith bridge
has anyone done a build with blast rain explosive trap recently?
Yep, i tried stacking as much mana regen with butchers crown.
graceful notch
daring dragon
Yep, i tried stacking as much mana regen with butchers crown.
Yeah, the mana cost really hurts
marble lodge
Anyone enjoying acid flask falconer? i just wanna take a peep at your build if someone is willing to share. I follow maxroll but i just need to motivate me with more iterations/items to hunt. 🙂 lastepochtools was so full of life back when i played when the game was released but no it seems almost dead
atomic vapor
Anyone enjoying acid flask falconer? i just wanna take a peep at your build if s...
spicorr also has a bd setup if you're interested in that
marble lodge
ty, i tried the BD version and lost all money. I liked my good old falconer so i went back. Now i want to migrate spicors builds lootfilter into maxrolls planner. So i can collect my builds and make gigastrict filter for them
atomic vapor
It should be easier to gear than the maxroll one
I think spicorr completely skips the t8 ring
raw zodiac
build finally complete see yall when LE's story is complete lol
sharp ravenBOT
flint bough
build finally complete see yall when LE's story is complete lol
https://www.las...
are you crafting your items? you have tier 1s and 2s still
raw zodiac
are you crafting your items? you have tier 1s and 2s still
yeah i lost the forging potential gambles as i was just goin for the affixes i needed first - hence the t1s and t2s
grinding 1k corr pretty easily which as been my goal since the game started lol
flint bough
oh nice haha im at 2.2k corruption on my bladedancer
this is my profile https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Big_Mike69/character/Blade_Mikey
but you should make sure every affix on your gear is doing something. that's limited if you still have tier 1s and 2s
raw zodiac
im pretty happy as is tbh - i went through most of the marksman builds this season
multishot
shadow hoa
bleed hoa
bleed hs + puncture (homebrewed build that allowed me to kill normal abby)
cold hs
shadow daggers puncture
i did dragonsong/burning daggers builds in prior seasons
T8 was a good chase but im vowing not to cmoe back until the story is done, even if its not for a couple of years. got my moneys worth of enjoyment on this game
flint bough
how many hours have you played htis game?
raw zodiac
over the past ~3-4 years is 1.1k
spent a bunch of time as a altaholic
kind atlas
ty, i tried the BD version and lost all money. I liked my good old falconer so i...
the video george linked was the uber build variation which is a glass cannon just for uber max kill speed. mapping version is more balanced, not glass cannon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXowPKkkJ5Q
dire forge
100th uber cleared ❤️ love you my bird lady
marble lodge
build?
dire forge
emm sec
dire forge
build?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9NOZ5EB farming idols setup (currently 1kC, top C 2k but it's not worth the danger imo)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oY8rpD2B uber idols setup
sharp ravenBOT
marble lodge
Cool thanks!
dire forge
no prob
marble lodge
Nice gear 😄
dire forge
if u have questions @ me cuz i miss the messages sometimes
thanks, got grey hair thanks to farming it but worth it ig
flint turret
Because it's an awesome chest overall?
dull field
valuable if ignore the idol stats effect?
flint turret
Well he uses it for idols so why ignore
I'm more curious as to why chakrams are not lightning tho
dull field
idol stat get twice?
flint turret
Maybe just for xithara it's phys
dull field
hmm
marsh plank
That chest is awesome and paired with good idols its even better.
toxic swift
yeah it really is. I'm using it on my chakram BD
flint bough
@bold brook hey I am wondering if my build could really benefit from armor shred? I don't have it on my gear because of missing it on a slam so I am wondering if I need points in Hooked Blades
I'm one hitting most enemies so armor shred would be for champions and other bosses right
bold brook
<@296410303338643456> hey I am wondering if my build could really benefit from a...
Hooked blades would likely be a large benefit, you can use this tool to see how armor shred affects damage https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor (go to the shred tab)
the difference between 0 and 40 stacks of shred is 57% more physical damage taken by the enemy, at 80 stacks its 74%
hooked blades also gives extra armor shred effect iirc, which you can also input into the graph as well
armor shred does plateau heavily after a point, at 100 its stacks its 77%, 150 its 81%, so having a good chunk of armor shred is very good, there is a point where additional stacks are not a big deal
flint bough
how many stacks can i get with the 50% from hooked blades
bold brook
you'll have to test yourself on the dummies or a boss
it depends on how often you are hitting, which can vary
also smaller bosses will probably get hit less too
flint bough
so 40 stacks would be decent
bold brook
40 is decent, i usually try to aim for around 80-100ish without extra armor shred effect
with the extra shred effect from hooked blades i would probably try to get around 60-80
fossil tartan
Does potion drop chance apply to things your minions kill?
marsh plank
Nope
flint bough
booya
marsh plank
Not bad
flint turret
If it's for cascade then seeing neither mana Regen nor crit avoidance is kinda weird
storm glade
anyone got relic suggestions for a acid flask / explosive trap blade dancer? In HC, so no shattered world yet for me
flint turret
no mana issues at all
What tech are you using to not have mana issues without mana Regen affixes?
flint bough
I have 32% mana efficiency for sync strike
I used to have mana regen on every gear until I got those
flint bough
What tech are you using to not have mana issues without mana Regen affixes?
also I unspecced perfect coordination which I had before
if you want I can share screen and show you
if I had any issues with mana I wouldn't be able to clear 2.2k corruption
kind atlas
anyone got relic suggestions for a acid flask / explosive trap blade dancer? In ...
random exalt with the usual good stuff, but not the leech or life on crit base if you are low life. if you aren't low life, pillagers gold. another option is twisted heart for the the 20% health and 16 str.
void birch
If i take Stay of Execution to make Puncture a channeled skill (charged), will buffs to damage while channeling work on it?
zenith bridge
If i take Stay of Execution to make Puncture a channeled skill (charged), will b...
Yes, channeled skills usually snapshot every current active buff available (Coated Blades multiplier, Elemental Arrows passive, Dark Quiver buffs etc.)
zenith bridge
If i take Stay of Execution to make Puncture a channeled skill (charged), will b...
Okay i just tested it again because of the snapshot changes in season 3. Coated Blades/Elemental Arrows snapshot works for channel flurry. Charged Puncture/Detonating Arrow doesnt work.
trail ferry
Is there anybody knows about divebomb glitch nodes around "on wings of shadows"? It was glitch about if I pick those and divebomb's effect area shrinks so it goes like 0. As a result, it does no damage. I want to know if it is fixed cuz last time I played this game is around august, and it still was glitched by that time.
buoyant ermine
100th uber cleared ❤️ love you my bird lady
Wow, I honestly dream of killing him at least once, Ubby haunts my nights, I can't take it anymore 🥲
stable anchor
Wow, I honestly dream of killing him at least once, Ubby haunts my nights, I can...
you can do it! keep practicing, it’s an extremely hard fight the first time you do it. be mindful of your laser placements and the orbs. positioning is everything. you got this
dire forge
Wow, I honestly dream of killing him at least once, Ubby haunts my nights, I can...
It's doable but yeah the more time you're in the arena, the more stress affects you and the more likely it is to make mistakes over time, my first fight this season also took a lot of tries (around 50) and i was ready to give up at one point purely out of bullshit that happened there but once I did it for the first time it became much easier afterwards, at one point it was even comfy to farm him but then again few oneshots in a row and got tilted again and back and forth 😂 that boss is a rollercoaster of emotions
buoyant ermine
Thanks for the support team ! I think I’m missing a lot of damage too ^^' I’ll look for a solid Rogue build and give it a go 😄
dire forge
Apparently ballista, acid flask and umbral falconers are all uber-capable, there's also lowlife lightning shuriken blademaster who can kill him, not sure what else but yeah those 4 are for sure able to do it
stable anchor
hail of arrows is really good at uber too tbh
dire forge
Umbral is one of the worst to do it tho if you're not geared enough in my opinion, the performance is 50% of what it used to be in 1.2, at least there's no need to farm +throwing dmg inheritance anymore hehe
dire forge
hail of arrows is really good at uber too tbh
See? Good to know, wasn't aware of that
flint turret
Umbral is one of the worst to do it tho if you're not geared enough in my opinio...
pretty wild statement ngl
atomic vapor
pretty wild statement ngl
It is a 4min kill with 1lps, due to falconer dipping into every stat under the sun it makes the 2lp power gain crazy, goes from 4mins down to almost 1min
But by today's standards 4min kill is definitely on the ethical side
It only becomes crazy when you farm stupid gear
But yeah it's still far from the hardest kill
sly hornet
Umbral is one of the worst to do it tho if you're not geared enough in my opinio...
It being worse than it was before doesn’t make it bad now. It’s still very good.
flint turret
It is a 4min kill with 1lps, due to falconer dipping into every stat under the s...
4 min on 1lps is infinitely more powerful than most builds are capable of
It doesn't sound as op yeah, but calling umbrals falconer one of the worst builds to do Uber with is still wild
When the majority of skills don't even have a chance with uber
atomic vapor
Yeah that's why I'm saying I agree that it's nowhere near close but with the powercreep being the way it is right now there's plenty builds that do it on around 2 mins even with 1lps, it was more of a relative to what's currently op comparison
It's less op but still stronger than many things that barely even function on Uber
flint turret
on a side note
has anyone tried hydra bow falcon build with blast rain? does cd reduction on trap and dive work from triggered blat rain from hydra?
because know hydra works in weird ways where triggered skill is considered on use and for some interactions they dont
And for avian arsenal stacks too
toxic swift
I don't have an answer for your question, but I do have an adjacent one -- does the repeat consume crystalwind stacks?
dire forge
It being worse than it was before doesn’t make it bad now. It’s still very good.
i'm not saying it's bad now, it's simply harder to gear up to achieve the same strength as opposed to prev season
flint bough
woohoo
kind atlas
i got mm flask uber kill in 41 seconds but forgot to take a snapshot of planner so i havent uploaded video yet. s
buoyant ermine
i got mm flask uber kill in 41 seconds but forgot to take a snapshot of planner ...
Hey ! Ty for your video, i follow your build for my first uber 😛
marsh plank
Im sorry but can i imprint that ?
Imprinting harbinger weapons doesn't work the same unfortunately.
chilly wren
tips for what needs improving most here?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olOnVEzB
My slams this season have been really rough. Don't get onto me for that! Lol
sharp ravenBOT
kind atlas
imprinting harby weapon works
toxic swift
does hydra arc target the same enemy multiple times if there are fewer enemies available than the repeat count?
marsh plank
Targets random enemies
kind atlas
i got mm flask uber kill in 41 seconds but forgot to take a snapshot of planner ...
got it down to 40s https://youtu.be/v7VtxW4HfLk
toxic swift
Targets random enemies
yeah but I mean if there is only one enemy. Like killing a boss
wraith nacelle
How trustworthy is sheet dps with the attack speed bow it shows higher dps but using the crit multi bow is much quicker boss kills
rancid rapids
does anyone know why my damage on killing stuff is only in the 1-6k damage range? im a fully built heartseeker rogue. are the "damage numbers" broken for heartseeker or something?
rancid rapids
How trustworthy is sheet dps with the attack speed bow it shows higher dps but u...
are u running the crit build or the dot build with frostbite?
crit build will always be stronger with crit for bosses. attack speed for clearing maps faster
@wraith nacelle i use this on my crit ice heartseeker build. need to level up with LP bow, but it feels stronger than Reign. especially with Truesight amulet. 😄
naive saddle
does anyone know why my damage on killing stuff is only in the 1-6k damage range...
Got a planner?
storm glade
i got mm flask uber kill in 41 seconds but forgot to take a snapshot of planner ...
used the blade dancer version and got the first HC kill on uber on blade dancer, prolly all of rogue fyi 🙂
marsh plank
How trustworthy is sheet dps with the attack speed bow it shows higher dps but u...
The sheet dps is accurate in the sense it accounts only for the known ans obvious variables. There could be other considerations not accounted for so it should always be taken with a grain of salt.
flint turret
the most accurate measurment you can get is to clock down the dummy damage hp threshold\kill time.
sadly we dont have many tools for a dps estimate
as for crit multi vs attack speed, it can go both ways really, depending on the rest of the gear and passives\skills
nimble sandal
playing the lethal mirage build, I keep dying at empowered monolith 100, any tips I can survive? I have capped resistances and hp around 1800. but keep getting one shot lol, cant even heal
flint turret
playing the lethal mirage build, I keep dying at empowered monolith 100, any tip...
It's not the best build to start with and to clear in general. If you are not running low life you should have leech passive for melee, and it should heal you a lot. Overall, if you are capped res you can always add more hp, armor, dodge, endurance, glancing blows, etc
If you enjoy your combo gameplay it's fine, if you dont, you can transition lm into shadow daggers applicator
That makes the gameplay loop much easier even tho you lose single target damage
nimble sandal
yeah, I saw it on the tier list of Maxrols, thought its viable. Im a beginner though, but my previous run last season, the character could at least survived early stages of Empowered MOno
this build I just cant handle the damage
flint turret
Are you using dual fulgrites?
It's not really playable without dual fulgrites or bbc
nimble sandal
I use BBC, following maxrolls build
flint turret
Ah okay so you have that at least
nimble sandal
I have all the required unique pieces, just the afffixes are not great
flint turret
Well, I can recommend switching to sd for now just to see how you like it
nimble sandal
is there a build website for it?
nimble sandal
I usually follow maxrolls build cuz it looks pretty updated
anything else with fulgurite shard are like 6months old
flint turret
Well nothing really changed for lm for like 3 last seasons
Except for a primo items added
nimble sandal
I see, so if I cant really do empowered mono without dying, do you recommend just pushing corruption of normal monolith to 50 and try to farm better gears for defense?
flint turret
nimble sandal
or switching? not sure if switching would help me survive lol without tiptop gears
flint turret
maybe that wasnt the lastest updated version but you can get the general idea
flint turret
I see, so if I cant really do empowered mono without dying, do you recommend jus...
no never farm non empowered
if you cant farm empowered with a current build just swap to SD or whatever (doesnt even have to be lm)
maybe lowlife LM could actually be decent now with the new LL body
nimble sandal
whats LL? low life?
flint turret
yeah
marsh plank
yeah but I mean if there is only one enemy. Like killing a boss
just tested it, no it will not shoot more than 1 arrow at an enemy, must be unique enemies
toxic swift
rip the dream
wraith nacelle
The sheet dps is accurate in the sense it accounts only for the known ans obviou...
Thanks for the information just by test feeling the attack speed bow is good for mono farming but the crit multi bow has allowed me to get Uber to last phase a couple times now .
flint bough
yesss slamming been going very well for me recently
this is the 3rd 1/3 chance I've gotten in a row
marsh plank
I need some of your luck
flint bough
I need some of your luck
maybe I will come with you to kill Julra together then you slam 2lp red ring with 2 t7s
flint bough
nah im regular core because I want to climb highest corruption I can get
kind atlas
ez
kind atlas
tbh, that's probably once in a lifetime slam/item. its never getting topped
flint bough
yeah like jeez
okay so
what do people do against hulking overgrowths on melee characters?
that tremor stomp i've just been shifting past them and leaving them behind
rancid rapids
Got a planner?
what does that mean? is there an item called the planner?
naive saddle
It's like an armory/profile link, so we can see what you're building.
Was responding to #🔪┃rogue message
brittle sand
does falcon fist work with off hand items ? like what turns acid flask into cold ?
dire forge
It should work, it just says unarmed, offhand catalyst isn't a weapon as far as I'm concerned
raven bronze
another person said that shield are okay and don't count as being armed
marsh plank
Ya i would assume it works similar to the judgement gloves which allows things like shields
cobalt mantle
Catalysts, quivers, and shields are not weapons, so you are still unarmed if you equip them
flint bough
lesss goooo
road to 3000 now
my character sheet 🙂 https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Big_Mike69/character/Blade_Mikey
dire forge
2503 here 😂 looks like we're gonna have a little race my man
The one who gets lightning orobyss faster loses
flint bough
are you bladedancer
dire forge
Also those number two's having a thinner font than 5 and 0 bother me as hell
Oh no, falconer haha
dire forge
But looking at our stats we might have similar chances
flint bough
link me your character sheet
sharp ravenBOT
dire forge
Exactly hehe
dire forge
Oh yeah melee without endurance becomes dead melee
Also your hp is a little higher, I'm hunting for a better exalt base for a jungle queen but it's hella hard
Truth is no matter the defences, sparks from lightning orobyss will decimate us both equally
dire forge
Actually I had the most insane oro fight today
Survived 4 or 5 spark waves and killed him xD
The tension was real
Considering doing confluences instead of regular single one for real since it's getting out of hand
flint bough
well for me its not lightning shade
its any shade
wanna know why?
melee attack 1 hits me
and i can only shadow cascade shade of orobyss during an animation
like charging up the fire
or puking
dire forge
Oh ouch
dire forge
Yeah that's not great to have then
flint bough
shade is literally the biggest pain in the ass in raising corruption
dire forge
Oh and you don't have silver shrouds from anywhere
Ouch
Unless you do and I'm blins
Blind*
Oh yeah he's the ultimate check
Still prefer orobyss to profane champion anytime
My beef with those is real
flint bough
silver shroud?
dire forge
Yes that shit that gives you 100% dodge chance for one hit
flint bough
should I put points into Argent Veil?
dire forge
And after getting hit you get 100 ward per silver shroud used
Emmm sec
Need to turn on pc view on my phone cuz that planner of yours shows me 50% of the site and I can't zoom out xD
flint bough
lmao dang
dire forge
Where the hell is that
flint bough
spicorr i do both
dire forge
I did confluences up to like 2k, then I got bored with finding cemetery and just went with real shades
flint bough
i have 2 confluence of oblivions imprinted so i dont have to spend 3500 amber per 1
but if i reach regular shade first i just do it
dire forge
It only gives more ward per SS consumed
kind atlas
i prestacked needles so i have 800 gaze on one timeline and 700 on another
flint bough
oh wow
dire forge
Oh well xD
kind atlas
i planned to do this but i didnt know if i was gonna go ahead with it
flint bough
thats a lot
dire forge
I have like 250 on black sun
dire forge
Yeah I farm like 30 a pop and then spend all and back and forth
Acid flask is actually ridiculous for single target tho, you'll overpower us easily
flint bough
who has acid flask?
dire forge
Spicorr
flint bough
ah
kind atlas
yeah im flask
flint bough
what corruption u at
kind atlas
2k
dire forge
I was proud with my 56s uber kill, then spicorr came in with 40s speedrun
kind atlas
i never went higher than that for farming purposes
dire forge
Oh yeah it's pointless
I'd even say over 1k is already pointless
I am at 1003 on my main timeline
kind atlas
yeah, 1k is ideal. its just at 2k i dont lose any speed so may as well
dire forge
Oh yeah then ofc
kind atlas
but i think at higher than 2k i can start eating some random deaths
dire forge
I noticed that too at 2k+
However got a new helmet which gave me a lot of hp to work with
flint bough
but i think at higher than 2k i can start eating some random deaths
i have random deaths already
like tremor stomp and spirit barrage
dire forge
Oh yeah spirit barrage is so random
You just walk or run and suddenly stop
Vaults of barnacle king are also very interesting on 1k+ already
Burning ground hitting for 600 per tick from single pool
kind atlas
yeah i dont even bother with that, since troves are pretty much free now. no centre reward also
i have so many unused barnacle
dire forge
I actually keep running out of ambers all the time due to shortage of horns
Current lineage I'm doing didn't give me a single horn reward in 5 evolutions
kind atlas
i can sustain pretty much, sometimes i've had to convert petals but i have over 1k petals banked so pretty comfortable
dire forge
Oh yeah i've got 1k+ of them too
Regarding corruption probably once I hit like 3-3,5k I'm gonna call it quits, shit's getting too slippery there
flint bough
im aiming for 3k
dire forge
Gotta show those maxroll experts how much of a B tier bossing build UB falconer is
Yeah 3k will be enough for me too most likely, still feeling the urge to smash uber's head a few more times
flint bough
what timeline do you guys usually do for gazes
dire forge
I actually made the worst choice possible I think in the name of Age of Winter
Cemeteries far away, boss with phases that sometimes starts attacking while invulnerable
Creme de la creme
At least harbi is easy
Oh yeah lagon would be a worse choice now I'm thinking of it
kind atlas
i did lagon timeline at start (mistake). i liked the cemterary layout but it turned out we hardly do cemetaries now. wasting 30s each time doing a lagon is huge downside though so that makes it not worth it. stormcarved were also ok to sell early on so i guess it was ok
kind atlas
then i changed to black sun
dire forge
Wish you were able to skip lagon's phases like in old patches
kind atlas
yeah
dire forge
Oh yeah if you are not doing cemeteries then black sun is BiS or reign of dragons for 2lp hearts
I mean even cemeteries are nice there
One way, you know where to go
flint bough
the thing is confluence or regular echo of world is the same because in each 1 i get 1 hit by melee attack
dire forge
Oh then yeah
kind atlas
i actually havent tried confluence but i know thats what the ballista guy does coz its easier (for him, not melee)
dire forge
I mean confluence is nice because of drops
kind atlas
ah yeah
dire forge
Nearly 100% shattered chains drop rate
Like last 5 confluences I did dropped shattered chains
Only got 1x 1lp from nem afterwards but still
flint bough
yeah confluence is what i lean towards more because the shades have less health
dire forge
This too makes a difference
dire forge
I'll try to do one confluence tomorrow and see how it works for me instead of a real shade
Yeah regular shades hit like a truck at that C
Either dodge/silver shroud or die
kind atlas
i'll change to falconer for super high push for second shroud on demand
dire forge
Oh that should help for sure
kind atlas
BD flask is by far the best for general play though, comparing 3 flask specs
dire forge
Btw I've been wondering about something
kind atlas
i made a mm 2k mapping video but then switched to BD after and it's so much better
dire forge
Spicorr can you give me a quick planner of yours?
kind atlas
what spec?
dire forge
BD
flint bough
spicorr is there anything i can do if hulking overgrowths are in my map
its as bad as damage reflect in poe
kind atlas
mapping or boss?
flint bough
like damn
kind atlas
this is map https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4rzPJ6A
sharp ravenBOT
dire forge
I'd literally leave echo and join again ngl
flint bough
yeah?
flint bough
literally hulking overgrowth 1 hits you with a sneeze its so annoying
kind atlas
sharp ravenBOT
dire forge
Oh yeah that's the one, let's see
kind atlas
i have some upgrades since then, 3lp julra and 2lp amulet. but i didnt try killing again
kind atlas
i also have 2lp shattered but i dunno if thats better
dire forge
I wanted to ask if exsang was a good choice there
And i see you're wearing it lul
2lp SW but crafted already or not
kind atlas
crafted and hit, and it's got good rolls
dire forge
Wtf unethical
kind atlas
yeah its 5crit 7all, 9 dr. double t7 near max rolls
dire forge
Imo SW worthless, more dmg to ignited enemies + more potential affixes on pillager's better than SW
If you really wanted to push you could even roll a 777 pillagee
Pillager
7 multi 7 throwing 7 fire
dire forge
It would take few days of your life tho
kind atlas
i hit 2 777s this season already
dire forge
But self-crafted?
kind atlas
not 3. lol
i crafted the exalts, bought the uniques
exalts need to be crafted, no one is making stuff this niche
dire forge
So you have original tradable 777s?
kind atlas
nah mg tagged 777 rings
kind atlas
i dont have any non mg tagged 777s
dire forge
Max I managed to achieve was 77 on few items
kind atlas
extremely hard to get
kind atlas
yeah it's 1 in 200 or something chance
dire forge
Oh if not less, pretty abysmal
kind atlas
best i got was a 7776 from a 777
dire forge
Yeah 7776 is the biggest troll of them all
kind atlas
1 in 200 on the actually 77 though, not on the base chance
so get a 77 first, then do that 200 times
the chances for 77 is already fairly low
dire forge
And in 200 tries you should get a 776/777?
kind atlas
yeah
dire forge
Eugh
kind atlas
another 1 in 200 once you have the 777 which is already super low chance
kind atlas
oh yeah, it becomes not deterministic at that point, i get you
dire forge
That one affix needs to be modifiable
That's why I settled with 7775 on my peak, it just can't get better without signing a pact with devil
kind atlas
yeah that's epic already
coz getting that 5 to land on the right place is already super rng and not running out of FP by that time
i've only made one 7775 with the right stuff
kind atlas
omg