#πŸ”ͺ┃rogue

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dire forge
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Yeah I forgot, thought I'm gonna die

lapis pumice
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unless you recorded them separately it's gonna be hard/impossible

dire forge
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No it was like that I launched uber and was talking with them on discord

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So it's rather improbable as expected

lapis pumice
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yeah

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u can't undo a baked cake is the saying

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it's basically like having a cake in front of u and trying to turn it back into eggs flour & sugar

dire forge
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Yeah and can't take salt out of the dish and shit like that

lapis pumice
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you'd need some kind of magic πŸ˜‚

atomic vapor
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I mean you can, video editing isn't that hard

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I just don't know if youtube does so

lapis pumice
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i tried some AI tools for that last week cuz my uber kill i was blasting mega cringe music too XD

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with no successs

dire forge
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I was listening to Concerto Moon or something like this, generally Japanese metal stuff

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But my friends started talking about some conspiracy theories in this precise moment

lapis pumice
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lmaoo

atomic vapor
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baby metal x slaughter to prevail

lapis pumice
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post it in 2 days, 11/09

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fitting for conspiracy shit

dire forge
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Oh wait, you guessed already

lapis pumice
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hahaha

dire forge
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So yeah I'd just have to record a new kill or mute the video completely

lapis pumice
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ye

dire forge
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I guess I'll do the latter, can't stand this purple cockhead

lapis pumice
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top left u gonna see this

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1 track video 1 track audio, u might have split audio or smth

dire forge
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Will check that in a minute, launching pc

lapis pumice
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since obs can manage multiple flows

dire forge
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okay here i am, let's see

lapis pumice
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πŸ™

dire forge
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yeah they are not separate tracks

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2/2

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one audio one video

grizzled nova
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One opportunity

atomic vapor
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These palms are sweaty

dire forge
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looks like i could just mute the first 36 seconds of video and then go with sound

lapis pumice
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ez

dire forge
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also now i'm looking at this video it's shoddy work, could've done it better omegalul

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Jorge would outplay me with his strats

lapis pumice
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which build u playing again

dire forge
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UB Falc

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and where the hell do i save this clip?

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crap i'm so bad at this, okay gonna learn it, all will be good

lapis pumice
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big blue button u can't miss it

dire forge
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kekw i was looking at it

lapis pumice
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ye takes some time to get used too

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but it's a very good free software

dire forge
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but it said export instead of save as

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so that got me confused

lapis pumice
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u could use some big firm stuff but without paying your video quality will be rendered to shit

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if you're not doing heavy editing this does the job

dire forge
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yeah i guess

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no i am not xD

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and how can i do what i want to do, which is muting sound from 1st segment (36s) and allow sound in 2nd segment (the rest)?

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oh i think i already know

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separate files, remove sound from 1 part, allow sound in second, merge files and have half removed half working

lapis pumice
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i use audacity then paste the new track xd

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but u could work it with the tool maybe

dire forge
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i'll try

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i think i got it

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to hell with that, now i muted the whole video

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also it sounds ass like that, half muted half not

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i will just record a new uber kill and that'll do

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now the worst part of this

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killing regular abby

dire forge
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okay

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recorded a new one from scratch, managed to get 1:12

lapis pumice
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eating frailty stacks to flex

atomic vapor
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new nft unlocked

lapis pumice
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btw i tested some funny shtuff

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net as traversal with dex stacking

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u jump like 3 screens with 220 dex

graceful notch
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Jump in hole omegalul

lapis pumice
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ye it's shit for bossing omegalul

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u just fly all over

atomic vapor
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That's a negative net value then

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I'll escort myself out

dire forge
flint dome
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Guys is there like a website for korean builds or rarer builds, like detonating arrow or flurry? All I see of marksman builds are heartseeker

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and rain of arrows. Like I though I would find some builds here in discord but nothing pinned

crimson latch
flint dome
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I'm trying for like a 2nd day haha, but I will if I do haha

lapis pumice
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u stack dex to scale increase & flat with mourning frost boombam

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it's hard to deviate from heartseeker cuz the skill is just that efficient, multihits like crazy, good at proccing stuff like dragon song

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marksman is not a very powerful mastery on it's own, that doesnt help

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guess u could try manastack with detonating arrow, no idea how it performs tho

potent arrow
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white mob btw πŸ˜„

flint dome
violet ledge
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Which nerfs? To detonating arrow specifically or other stuff

cobalt mantle
violet ledge
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Oh they capped the trap stuff

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Sad

mellow gyro
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Is there a reason to stay physical shuriken over lightning?

toxic swift
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as your primary damage-dealing skill? probably not

atomic vapor
mellow gyro
toxic swift
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yes

ember surge
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where can see your build top compare?

lapis pumice
ember surge
lapis pumice
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sent u dm, sorry i thought u found the build by watching the thing

dire forge
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More random shit to die from than in poe even xD

zenith bridge
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guess the build πŸ˜…

vagrant stone
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Something melee lol πŸ˜†

bold brook
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the fabled spear wielding falconer!

zenith bridge
toxic swift
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SD

zenith bridge
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yep puncture SD falconer with mirage node

toxic swift
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I tried that last season, but wasn't super happy with it

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didn't really mess around with it for long though

bold brook
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i played puncture SD Bladedancer a while back, was fun, definitly not the worst thing ive ever built

dire forge
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Weird to see omnis on any build on 2025

zenith bridge
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so i switched to melee for more dps. currently farming at 500c where i can say its a build. But it was my toughest project for sure

dire forge
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So you hit the ceiling

zenith bridge
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somnia made me continue this build...the helmet is insane

dire forge
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Good job

zenith bridge
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i wanted to play with truesight amulet, but its better for builds like heartseeker with multiple crits per second. I also couldnt cap my resistances without omnis + res idol scaling with Reliquary Nest

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i also cant wait to play a rogue build without mourningfrost and throne πŸ˜…

dire forge
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Yeah the truesight amu is tempting like always

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Mourningfrost tom

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More like handicapfrost

zenith bridge
zenith bridge
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i completely underestimated that amulet how valuable it is for rogue

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makes gearing so much easier

bold brook
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when I first saw Truesight I was like "how is anyone going to use anything else" but then I saw Blossom...its so nice

zenith bridge
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that amulet is amazing!

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i will definitely keep that in mind for future builds, i will switch to nihilis for spear falconer just for all the qol stats. But blossom is so good with mourningfrost or similar builds when you struggle with res

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really liked the idea

dire forge
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Damn now I'm looking at that blossom

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It essentially makes you need only 4 resistances instead of 7 right?

zenith bridge
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yes, its insane

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and we rogues always struggle with res

dire forge
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And that armor

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I mean I somehow made it this season I'm overcapped big on everything on my UB falc

bold brook
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also opens crit avoidance blessing instead of all resist, so you can solve that with blessing + passive tree

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makes overcapping for null portent value so easy too

dire forge
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Yeah it's insane, hmm wonder if it could be good for my falconer

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+2 skills from evo end give me silver shroud from smoke bomb tho, hmm

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Tough choice

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On the other hand getting a 2lp +2 evo on MG is next to impossible if you don't like regular echoes

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Idk who came up with the idea of making those untradable

bold brook
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untradable evo end was certainly a choice...makes me wonder if it was some system limitation or something

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with how each one summons a unique rift beast

dire forge
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I don't believe it, it's just a list of affixes the beast gets

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It's even written down what the beast gets and that's all

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It's not like it's hidden or some shit

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Hmmmm

bold brook
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<@&1161418687471956101>

dire forge
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Btw can you pass evo with golden/obsidian resonance?

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That's what interests me

bold brook
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i haven't tried that

dire forge
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Because if yes then there's no possible reason to make them trade locked

bold brook
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true

dire forge
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I've been talking about that with my friend who has a 2lp +2 evo

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And we're gonna farm up an obsidian to see, don't know when yet

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For science

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Oh BTW that blossom is a primordial unique, nevermind then, not giving up velocyn omegalul

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Didn't notice at first glance

bold brook
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no way you're giving that up

dire forge
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Exactly

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~50 phys pen from one item? Sign me up

flint bough
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is this worth it?

bold brook
flint bough
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i got it

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thank you

trim zodiac
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cheap ways to add ward?

flint bough
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im looking for a nice large idol as i have room for one. what are good affixes for it? dont need resistances right now

lapis pumice
tacit owl
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I want to boost my xp on my alt character can somebody help me invite me to monos? Please! Thank you!

potent arrow
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Well no conc fix still πŸ™

kind atlas
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whats wrong with conc?

atomic vapor
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When conc is active, you're at +0 from it because it doesn't apply its buff

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But when you get hit, the bonus gets properly removed lol

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So you're at 0 when it's up, and at minus when you get hit

scenic mauve
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hi anyone have issue with with dive bomb andd shadow falcon? it seems it doesnt work for me maybe its just visual

final pelican
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (51) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (2)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,164, Regen: 22.5/s
β–Έ Mana: 138.88, Regen: 8.88/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 19/s
β–Έ Attributes: 11 Str / 61 Dex / 12 Int / 5 Att / 10 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 81% / 81% / 81% / 83% / 67% / 87% / 72%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 433
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 37% (1085)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 22% (640)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 33%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 82%

flint bough
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was hoping for the phys penetration but this dagger is really good like damn

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the t7s rolled amazingly

scenic mauve
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hi anyone have issue with with dive bomb andd shadow falcon? it seems it doesnt work for me maybe its just visual (repost)

oblique plinth
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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qqr344PB looking for some tips on tweaks i could make. been trying a few different things, but generall 100 corruption emp monos are kicking my butt. trying to do poison multishot. recently changed it to a higher mana cost variant with puncture as a generator. damage seems a bit better.

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Marksman (56) / Falconer (13)

General:

β–Έ Health: 1,583, Regen: 17.62/s
β–Έ Mana: 198.27, Regen: 11.04/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 8%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 12 Str / 84 Dex / 4 Int / 4 Att / 7 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 144% / 89% / 89% / 66% / 76% / 54% / 132%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 412
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 36% (1128)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,003)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 7%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 97%

bold brook
# oblique plinth https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qqr344PB looking for some tips on tweaks ...

Generally speaking poison is not in a great spot for rogue right now. There's usually much better options for dealing damage. If you want to play multishot I would recommend building around its hit damage and building into crit. That being said there are a few things about your build you can change to get better survivability

You have not upped your endurance at all, which is a very important defensive layer for any build that relies on health.

You could also drop Dark Quiver and spec Shurikens to give you a bunch of armor (and have Shift automatically use Shurikens)

oblique plinth
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Yeah I saw the shuriken thing in the max roll hit build. Hadn't considered swapping DQ for it

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Good to know on poison. I'd wondered

bold brook
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easy uniques to equip for survivability would be Dominance of the Tundra (helmet from Antipode Rift woven echo), Brewmaster's Buckle (belt from Grand Brewery woven echo), Carcinization of Momentum (ring, random drop, pretty common)

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also highly recommend taking the Evasion node in the Rogue passive tree, its very strong for defense

oblique plinth
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Ahh. I did have it before swapping my passives around. Wanted to get more poison chance and dropped it.

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I probably need the endurance as you mention. Which I had suspected a bit

flint bough
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how do i know how much damage my shadow daggers are doing?

bold brook
flint bough
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is this decent?

flint bough
bold brook
# flint bough is this decent?

assuming your build is Cascade focused and not Shadow Daggers focused, yes. The damage of Shadow Daggers in a Shadow Cascade build is just a little bonus on top, it doesn't matter too much

flint bough
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it is πŸ™‚

bold brook
flint bough
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im so sorry!

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i understand and i wont do it again

bold brook
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no worries! thanks for understanding πŸ™‚

flint bough
bold brook
# flint bough im aiming to get to 2000 corruption with this build. is there anything i should ...

2000 is definitely attainable, my build (https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oz0jp8aQ) can go past 2000, there's a lot of past that point though.

Since you are playing MG, biggest recommendation would be to buy Immortal Vise gloves and Shattered Worlds relic. They are quite cheap this season for how powerful they are.

Replacing your exalted sword with an Eye of Reen would also be a great damage boost. Another thing is any type added melee damage on weapons will increase your damage, you don't need to only focus on added Physical damage.

You're missing a source of Frenzy, I personally use the experimental boots affix to give me Frenzy when I Shift. The Army of Skin boots are also fantastic for any melee build, because of the attack speed and huge damage multiplier against high health enemies.

You aren't using a primordial right now. I use Blossom of Immortal Stone to make gearing resist easier. I also use Null Portent because its really easy to get value from overcapping resists when you dont need to worry about 3 of them

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (77) / Falconer (16)

General:

β–Έ Health: 4,854, Regen: 39/s
β–Έ Mana: 222.51, Regen: 18.24/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 21 Str / 16 Dex / 12 Int / 16 Att / 18 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 74% / 84% / 87% / 117% / 0% / 18% / 23%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,793
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 19% (0)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,139)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 40%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 100%

bold brook
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your exalted ring can be replaced by Carcinization of Momentum for some extra movespeed, health, and armor if you dont mind losing Evade (you could use Heirloom of the Last Nomad or Ocereon if you dont want to lose Evade)

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Ocereon is a bit rough to get LP on, but Carcinization and Heirloom should be easy

flint bough
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i dont need evade

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i use shift tbh

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my favorite skill of the build is shift

bold brook
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yup, I almost always use the crab ring on rogue for that reason

oblique plinth
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Aw. I love evading. But maybe worth dropping it for the defence.

flint bough
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so carcinization of momentum?

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im going to look at that

bold brook
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also your endurance is not good right now, definitly try to cap that

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imo, the blessing from Reign of Dragons is much better used for All Resist or Critical Strike Avoidance, rather than increased damage

flint bough
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i see

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im doing reign of dragons right now actually

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okay im looking at carcinization of momentum right now

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lp3 is looking to be around 3.5m right now

flint bough
bold brook
flint bough
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omg i just got this

bold brook
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huge

flint bough
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should i keep it?

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the attack speed would up my damage

bold brook
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it probably still sells pretty well

flint bough
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let me check MG

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omg yes

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im imprinting it

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lmao

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its being sold for like 9.2m

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also i have 99% reduced damage from crit on my boots alone because of the both the implicit and the suffix

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so it i slam it on the army of skin im losing some of that crit reduction

bold brook
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and use my boots for Frenzy and cooldown reduction

trim zodiac
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woven flesh cheap way

bold brook
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woven flesh is cheap and easy ya, but generally not optimal past early levels

trim zodiac
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true but by the time you get to late you will probably have another solution

flint bough
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oh i see

trim zodiac
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also not everyone can use the market

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1/2 chance to get it first mono

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so baout time u hit lagon

flint bough
bold brook
trim zodiac
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crit protection is probably your first real issue. being able to solve it by lagoon ish time is great. its 50% drop rate beats using the market

flint bough
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thats why im using those gloves

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i mean ring

bold brook
flint bough
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oh okay

flint bough
trim zodiac
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get more shadows

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use smoke generates them

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increase duration

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shadows drop blades

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thats mana

bold brook
trim zodiac
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so smoke bomb mana gen

bold brook
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or you could go smoke ya

trim zodiac
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2 ss then shift

flint bough
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i dont like smoke.

bold brook
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neither do I haha

trim zodiac
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welp u do u

flint bough
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honestly its fine if people love smoke bomb and use it all the time but i just dont want to

trim zodiac
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u could try finding so utterly cracked rings

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but u might not like what u lose to do it

flint bough
trim zodiac
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blades drop from shadows

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so as long as smoke bomb is creating shadows ur geting mana from the recalled blades

bold brook
flint bough
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oh okay

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so cacophony was not giving me the max potential of mana?

bold brook
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yes, cacophony was limiting how much mana you were able to get

trim zodiac
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correct

flint bough
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so give me the simple math

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πŸ™‚

bold brook
# flint bough so give me the simple math

2 mana per blade, 3 max blades with cacophony = 6 extra mana on shift

2 mana per blade, 8 blades (assuming 2 sync strikes worth of shadows have expired) = 16 mana extra mana on Shift

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sometimes you might have more blades on the ground, sometimes you might have less

trim zodiac
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u can get more i think

bold brook
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you can definitely, just wasn't sure how many to say

trim zodiac
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blades dont despawn till i spam ss 4 times

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5 times

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point is as long as u dont over draw the atm before you hit shift ur gas tank goes back to full

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when u pull shift

bold brook
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but they do expire after you Shift, dont they? its unlikely you are using ss 4-5 times between shifts

trim zodiac
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no they get thrown

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its what i have currently

bold brook
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they get thrown, but I thought they go away after they are thrown

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havn't payed too much attention to that tho

trim zodiac
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usally i do it twice before shit

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shift

bold brook
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im usually about the same

flint bough
trim zodiac
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yep

flint bough
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i might need some cooldown recovery

bold brook
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highly recommend cooldown recovery

flint bough
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whats a good amount of cooldown recovery

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to feel comfortable about maintaining mana

bold brook
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I have a t6 on boots and a t7 on belt, which is obviously a lot, but I am also triggering Cascade with Wave of Darkness node in Sync Strike, which is quite heavy on the mana

bold brook
flint bough
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could you explain me what having it and not having it does and how it will affect my build?

bold brook
# flint bough could you explain me what having it and not having it does and how it will affec...

Perfect Coordination makes all the shadows in Sync Strike jump inward instead of outward. this makes them much more concentrated, so it is easier to hit bosses with all the sync strike attacks and the Cascades from the shadows afterward

However, it costs a hefty 10 extra mana, increased to 20 from the Dark Allies node, and reduces the area clearing of the build. Also not having it most likely would not affect boss damage too much, as Cascade with all 4 points in the area node is not small

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overall not worth imo

trim zodiac
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^

flint bough
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sounds good

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where should i allocate that point im taking out?

bold brook
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probably armor shred, you have all the important nodes already

flint bough
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bosses are not hard for me. my question is does taking out that node actually good for clearing?

bold brook
trim zodiac
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cascade is already huge

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so make it bigger

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more aoe ground u cover the faster the clearing

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u probably have armor shred on something else right

bold brook
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also you dont need the Precision node in Cascade, it should be crit capped already with your 85% on your sheet, + its inherent 5% extra crit chance. those two points would be much better in Execution, or you could put 1 in Dagger Dance to apply ailments better

flint bough
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alright noted

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so taking out perfect coordination will actually positively affect my clearing of regular mobs right?

bold brook
# flint bough alright noted

also you are invested in Concentration in Marksman, which normally would be fine, but its bugged right now to not work

bold brook
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all 24 of those points in Marksman are better used elsewhere for now

trim zodiac
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since the shadows wont bunch up

flint bough
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just took it out

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what a hiccup i was doing the whole time oh my gosh

bold brook
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Hooked Blades if you need armor shred, Spell Breaker for Mana Regen, Stamina of the Rover in Falconer for Mana Regen

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im a big fan of these 3 nodes in Falconer

trim zodiac
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i put that on pretty much every rouge

bold brook
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indeed

flint bough
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okay so i might be interested in doing endless arenas soon. will me taking out perfect coordination affect it at all?

bold brook
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I have not dabbled in the arena, but I assume taking it out can only be positive because of the reduced mana cost

flint bough
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just got this from orobyss.

trim zodiac
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glad we could help

flint bough
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yeah thanks

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you guys rule πŸ™‚

trim zodiac
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by any chance do you know if you can use heartseaker with out a bow?

bold brook
trim zodiac
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i found that last run but didnt know if it just techicly counts as throwning but if still had to use bow

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thanks

flint bough
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@bold brook I beat my arenas record on my first try. made it to wave 338

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this is so much better for clearing

flint bough
# bold brook nice! congrats!

i also beat 1228 corruption shade of orobyss with no issues. i am actually so much better at shades now ever since i figured out how to avoid melee attack lol

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that node though was purely a waste of mana

graceful notch
crimson latch
flint bough
# bold brook nice! congrats!

I have a question. when i have gear that has increased damage from shadows does it show in the damage per second when hovering over the skill?

bold brook
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makes figuring out whats better annoying sometimes

flint bough
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old helmet

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new helmet

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i was also way capped on fire resistane

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resistance

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thats why i thought i needed a helmet change

bold brook
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i like new helmet more than old

flint bough
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i went from 4250ish health to 4581

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which is pretty decent imo

bold brook
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that is a nice bump

flint bough
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also having cooldown recovery on an implicit is really good because on an affix it takes up

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i bought it with 6% and used rune of shaping to get it to 12%

flint bough
bold brook
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stonks

flint bough
bold brook
flint bough
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i really actually started playing regularly in tombs of the erased

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the 12% cooldown recovery is small but noticable. i can see it really helping if i got it to 25%

desert otter
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how is marksman for ignite flask?

trim zodiac
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thier is an idiol that procs flask on bow hit ?

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but havent played marksmen this season

lapis pumice
flint turret
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is anyone interested in trying something weird? cinger ignite throwing cascade insipred by ignite ethereal knives from poe

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.1

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (28) / Marksman (30) / Falconer (22)

General:

β–Έ Health: 3,386, Regen: 20/s
β–Έ Mana: 211.51, Regen: 8.96/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 2 Str / 19 Dex / 6 Int / 2 Att / 6 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 217% / 72% / 65% / 65% / 64% / 71% / 69%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,300
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 24% (808)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 16% (530)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 12%

flint turret
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or on bd with melee trap attach istead of HS. both serve the purpose of stacking shrouds and a bit more of ignite

plucky umbra
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Hi guys quick question regarding shadows. If I use Dancing strikes to generate Shadow Cascade and Shurikens do the shadows I create do anything at all if all im doing is dancing strikes?

flint turret
plucky umbra
scenic mauve
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hi anyone have issue with with dive bomb andd shadow falcon? it seems it doesnt work for me maybe its just visual (repost)

rugged pollen
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@plucky umbra

flint turret
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Oh dam my bad

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Wonder why it doesn't for shuri? Bug?

cobalt mantle
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I think shadows only repeat direct uses by default, SC is an exception to that

rugged pollen
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prob result of spaghetti code

plucky umbra
scenic mauve
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well dont know if it was well knowed but "bird arnt real" completly bugged and disable shadow falcon

zenith rivet
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Nemesis double T7 slam

atomic vapor
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But yeah hope that helps

scenic mauve
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i am playing all falconer stuff but with a bow(talon of valor ) a puncture to sustain mana and proc plenty of thing if it was working i could theoricly do falcon strike and dive bomb sam time or dont interupt featherstorm

fallow verge
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this work for shadow dagger ? ^^

bold brook
zenith rivet
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It is pretty underwhelming though

zenith bridge
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btw concentration is also bugged for falconer, not only bd

lapis pumice
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I'm pretty sure it works with bow attacks

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At least on dummy i saw diff

zenith bridge
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i compared flurry and puncture tooltip while being mm, bd and falc. The numbers on both skills only changed for mm while allocating points in conc

lapis pumice
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Didn't test since patch tho

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Sheesh Ok i'll try again when back home

knotty hound
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I've been enjoying Cinder Strike (Melee) as i've been leveling and just found the 'Falcon Fists' They seem really cool, but the idea of losing both my weapons is... weird...

I'm not a high enough level to use them yet, but does it actually balance out losing your wapons to use them?

weary widget
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No, it's actually pretty bad. Falcon fists is mostly used for the flat melee, attack speed, and +levels, and ignore the entire unarmed part

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Tho cinder strike itself falls off regardless

daring yew
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Pretty easy to get 3lp fists, but gl getting double +4 (or the +4 you need)

raw zodiac
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Rogue (25) / Marksman (76)

General:

β–Έ Health: 1,053, Regen: 18.32/s
β–Έ Mana: 269.33, Regen: 20.4/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 4 Str / 51 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 19% / 19% / 19% / 19% / 58% / 21% / 42%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 211
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 29% (892)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,509)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 3%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 167%

Used skills:
raw zodiac
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dont know what to do with boots or belt lol

bold brook
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also highly recommend putting all 5 into Evasion, its a very good defense node

bold brook
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you could go Foot of the Mountain for boots, or Blood of the Exile for just the extra movespeed and stats

raw zodiac
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Didn't realize jungle queen has the dodge rating buff when you use a potion - can do that with the decoy node where it turns dodge into crit multi when it explodes

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Good choice thanks

bold brook
flint bough
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@bold brook what kind of bladedancer build are you doing this season? i would like to see your lastepochtools

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (77) / Falconer (16)

General:

β–Έ Health: 4,854, Regen: 39/s
β–Έ Mana: 222.51, Regen: 18.24/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 21 Str / 16 Dex / 12 Int / 16 Att / 18 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 74% / 84% / 87% / 117% / 0% / 18% / 23%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,793
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 19% (0)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,139)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 40%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 100%

kind atlas
flint bough
bold brook
flint bough
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i have uber aberroth on another timeline and i just cant do it. any tips?

bold brook
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (77) / Falconer (16)

General:

β–Έ Health: 4,854, Regen: 39/s
β–Έ Mana: 222.51, Regen: 18.24/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 21 Str / 16 Dex / 12 Int / 16 Att / 18 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 74% / 84% / 87% / 117% / 0% / 18% / 23%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,793
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 19% (0)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,139)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 40%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 100%

bold brook
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it takes a ton of practice and learning the timing of the lasers so you can place them well, and extremely good gear, for this kind of build at least

flint bough
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i was able to do regular aberroth easily. i was able to tank most things and just dodge the 1 hitters easily

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cant tank in uber

flint bough
bold brook
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attack speed ups the damage of Cascade via the Leveraged Momentum node

flint bough
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wow yeah thats good

trim zodiac
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are their idols that add flat crit chance?

bold brook
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not on rogue at least

flint bough
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i dont need precision anymore. what points should i allocate with my 2 points?

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this is the shadow cascade tree

bold brook
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1 point in Dagger Dance can also be good for more ailments like armor shred

trim zodiac
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welp great cause i tossed like three prismatic gazes 3

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now i need one

bold brook
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why? what build you playing where you need crit but cant use offhand Tongue or flat crit on bow?

trim zodiac
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trash meme build

bold brook
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fair lol

trim zodiac
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better to not ask questions on this one

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o and i have tongue

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need more

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welp want more flat crit

zenith bridge
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Now i still dont now if its intended or not πŸ˜…

trim zodiac
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o concentration is buged

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btw

zenith bridge
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And if they ever gonna fix it

atomic vapor
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Mystery solved or whatever 😭

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Funny thing is, it's still not working properly

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Because according to ragu's testing, the shuriken tooltip loses DPS when you get hit

merry thicket
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can you still trigger Shadow Cascade from Lethal Mirage (a gloomy end node) if youre not dual wielding?

merry thicket
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many thanks. just making sure

potent arrow
kind atlas
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thats how i first tested it which led me to think that it was working, but now take the points out and look at your tooltip number go up

trim zodiac
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See I’m not sure the tool tip would work anyway with concentration

marble zealot
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can confirm - concentration has absolutely no effect on acid flask damage with a sceptre/dagger setup

graceful notch
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@atomic vapor only have it FrightenedGroleWrongDirection

atomic vapor
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I posted my 4lp one above, it looked like yours but with less crit multi

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Like 52% or whatever

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But it's been a few days (I stopped for s3)

deft oxide
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Anyone having issues with Cinder Strike randomly not casting anymore? I have to constantly rebind the skill.

flint bough
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@bold brook hey ive been looking at the planner you sent me a couple of days ago. A lot of the legendaries have added elemental damage. Could you explain this to me? I thought bladedancer was mostly physical

bold brook
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The increased fire damage on my ring was a slam that didn't land completely optimally, but its still not bad because it increases that added flat fire damage on my Reen

wraith nacelle
bold brook
# wraith nacelle Random questions regarding shadow cascade . Is it better to go with double flat ...

I am unsure exactly. I went double flat on one weapon and crit multi + flat on the other.

Last season attack speed was less when I compared tooltips between flat, crit multi, and attack speed, I assume because you can get a good amount of attack speed from your passive tree and gloves, while flat is less avaliable outside of weapons.

I have not tested extensively though, this is just based on the dps tooltip and vibes

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Attack speed is still very good obviously, take what you can get i say

wraith nacelle
bold brook
flint bough
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im starting to die a lot at 1300 corruption. i think maybe 1500 corruption would be doable. when do you guys start having problems on bladedancer?

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im not dying in every echo but its still happening

bold brook
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There will always be certain enemies/abilities that feel like will kill you out of nowhere, especially as you go higher in corruption. Its just about upping max health / other defense, and learning what you need to be careful of in my experience

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Or killing them before they kill you, but thats more applicable on builds more range

flint bough
flint bough
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honestly I'm at 92% crit chance and have 16 passive points into increased crit. Could someone help me find out how many points I can unallocate and still stay at 100% crit for shadow cascade? thanks

flint bough
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@bold brook hey whats good about carcinization of momentum other than the armor? is summon crab good?

bold brook
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Also pretty easy to get LP

bold brook
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Bonus movespeed, its 20% at level 100 iirc

flint bough
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ah nice

flint bough
bold brook
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Thats what I did

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Took quite a few tries

flint bough
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luckily i have a few 3 lp traitors tongues

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2 dex going for 4m right now

static lake
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anyone has a bladedancer build for uberroth?

noble hull
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which one?

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dmg here is reduced to 36k when equipping red ring, so idk

graceful notch
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Give Nemesis

knotty hound
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Feeling squishy while leveling the Rogue (Which is probably right, Rogues are usually Squishy) I just want to make sure i'm not missing some passive node or skill that could be granting me extra survivability.

Using Smoke Bomb, Turned into Traversal with Smoke Blades and the Enfeeble node

Got th ebase Rogue node where i get Mana/HP from hitting with a free skill (And the base node for extra Dex/HP)

In Falconry i pickedup that first node for more didge chance and HP

atomic vapor
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If you are falconer, get coordinated assault in the passive tree, and also look into the top left three nodes in the same tree

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Go to your smoke bomb and get the silver shroud passive (middle and downish)

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Get the dodge blessing from bird over crit multi (you can swap to multi for bossing or Uber or whatever)

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Get both armor blessings, and if you get more than 2k health (for it to be worthwhile enough), maybe swap the bottom right blessing into the endurance one if that helps you cap

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Early on, use the brew belt, it's easy to get 2lp, get health in it or even health+avoidance and get the all res blessing instead

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Get a frailty stout idol and maybe get blind on a dagger before you're avoidance capped

knotty hound
atomic vapor
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Yes fate sorry

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Keep the blessings in mind for when you finish the story

knotty hound
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Not high enough for that yet, but will look out for it ^^

atomic vapor
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This is just things off the top of my head to help you throughout the journey

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Not necessarily tied to leveling alone

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For leveling just get phys res, and anything with health and you'll be fine

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If you wanna delete the story, get aerial assault and spec it with umbral blades (the middle top nodes, purple ish)

knotty hound
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I see lol

atomic vapor
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😭 yep

knotty hound
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I mean, none of them are great... πŸ˜„

atomic vapor
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That's how it should look in story more or less

knotty hound
atomic vapor
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Keep all of this in mind and your character will explode both in damage and survivability. Swap out of cinder and into the bird skills fist chance you get

knotty hound
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Thank you πŸ™‚ I do really like Cinder strike though, so will probably try and stick with it. Depends how Ariel Assult feels once i unlock it πŸ™‚

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Hopefully that will help lol

atomic vapor
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Sure thing, play whatever you enjoy, but when you decide you need something stronger to progress, feel free to ask again

scenic mauve
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hi what are the pro and con of "rasor wings" in the falconry tree? i v heard it nerf all synergie with falcon hit(in falconer tree or with falconery skill) but it fasten the rotation of skill specially with dive bomb without "birds arent real"

atomic vapor
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Maybe I'm not understanding something but I really don't see the need for birds aren't real to begin with, even if you're maxed out on cdr. My bird skills never overlap anymore thanks to all the nerfs

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If anything you want the shadow falcons to be landing those shadow dive bombs

scenic mauve
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it cancel the other thing the falcon do espicially the long ass falcon strike with extra hit against bosses (actually my dmg ar mixed between FS and DB) this why i consider rasor wing to smooth thing up

scenic mauve
candid pebble
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How squishy are rogues overall? Like "can get oneshot" squishy or...

atomic vapor
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Anything that doesn't carry a shield can get oneshotted by some extremely overtuned mobs currently

candid pebble
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Yikes

Well, been thinking about trying that class sometime, never played a proper bow build in either PoE or any other ARPG recently (or just really wanted to try a speedy, stabby character)

atomic vapor
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Bow builds aren't exactly up there currently

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If you want something that hits very hard, play falconer

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I wouldn't try bd without a lot of experience because the skill cap is incredibly high (the best bd builds use many skills that move you around and it's not beginner friendly)

candid pebble
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Saw the Acid Blast rogue on Maxroll so

atomic vapor
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Flask trapper requires a lot of gear to come online, prepare for a grind

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Also the marksman variant isn't worth it at all

candid pebble
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Yeah, the grind I'm used to

How bad is the switch, as in "You have to beat Aberroth" bad?

atomic vapor
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I suggest that you take a peek at spicorr's setup

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I mean, you're preparing to play something that deletes aberroth in seconds

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I wouldn't call that bad but rather a resource

candid pebble
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Right

atomic vapor
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Go to the vids channel and look up his Uber kill, there's a planner

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Should give you a general idea of how to build

candid pebble
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Ok, cool

atomic vapor
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The maxroll version requires a t8 which is a horrible grind

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So I wouldn't go for that

candid pebble
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Ew

atomic vapor
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No problem

candid pebble
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I might look into other skills but I don't see Rogue is up there much with boss kills

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So I might look at the other tier lists

atomic vapor
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I've got an umbral blades setup there too that kills Uber in 1:30 and is tankier and easier to build

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Take your pick, that's the strongest rogue can do this season

candid pebble
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That does fit more in line with the flavor I'm after, thanks!

atomic vapor
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sure thing

raw zodiac
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Marksman (75) / Falconer (2)

General:

β–Έ Health: 1,372, Regen: 26.42/s
β–Έ Mana: 310.75, Regen: 12.4/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 95%, Regen: 6/s
β–Έ Attributes: 2 Str / 18 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 26% / 26% / 26% / 43% / 64% / 21% / 26%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 274
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 17% (516)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 22% (766)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 4%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 132%

Used skills:
rugged pollen
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you'll die 3 times in 10 seconds with this

raw zodiac
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lol thats any marksman build

rugged pollen
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eh that's far from true

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anw if you're going zhp might as well go allin on damage

lapis pumice
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Build is far from finished but u lack huge flat damage

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Third eye ring straight nerfs u vs an exalted ring tbh

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Would slam flat + bow Crit if u need it on bow

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I'd say T7 bow as on quiver too, bow & quiver is ur only source of it from gear

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Hard to give advice on a build that is that far from done tbh

flint bough
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hey what corruption you guys at?

hazy pulsar
flint bough
hazy pulsar
# flint bough hows falconerthis season?

feels a bit weaker than last season tbh, had to invest a lot more into the build this time. im on ballista and its been fine overall tho, can map and do uber kinda comfortably

flint bough
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i havent given it much attempts but its too much of a grind for me. i will wait until my build is fully optimized i still need to slam gear

north tree
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just curious has any falconer ballista try tyrant's skull?

trim zodiac
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Anyone know sources for flat throwing damage

bold brook
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flat throwing + reduced mana cost is on ring

quiet torrent
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lirakas claws are guite common, good for throwing stuff

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for shurikens though

scenic mauve
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hi does increased physical dmg is included in the shared dmg of "trained to hunt" in the falconry tree ? and does go for the eyes always consider your highest crit chance or your "global " one ? does bow chance to shred and bleed with puncture applies to "rending talons" and blood roost ?

lapis pumice
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U also have massive +3 flat throwing idols (i think humble)

storm cloak
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does anyone know a way to build a decent bow detonating arrow marksman?
i was trying to cook something these last days but the build is struggling to do empowered monos...

lime holly
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late to the party but what feels better for mapping

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shurikens bouncing around should clear better than chakrams, no?

zenith bridge
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I dont know if the ricochet mechanic feels better these days, but for me chakram always felt better while mapping. It has better aoe coverage because of the projectile size and return behavior.

dire forge
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@atomic vapor Jorge are you there? Got shred on li'rakas and now thinking what to put on 2lp nihilis, throwing t7 + phys pen t5+ or crit multi t5+?

potent arrow
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How do you guys keep playing after full slammed LP1 gear, feels like im farming for hours without upgrades

lime holly
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pretty easy to get lp2 as cof

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i just started farming for lp2+ fulgurs

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and got several in 1h

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when you get like 100 daggers per boss kill

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it goes fast

potent arrow
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my issue is mostly getting good exalts to slam into lp2/3's

dire forge
potent arrow
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it just seems such a grind, i got this nice double t7 exalt imprinted grinded for hours with no drops that i could craft into a good slam and then i need multiple good slams cause of the large failure% on lp2 stuff, starts to feel like wasted time instead of enjoying character progression

dire forge
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that's why i unfortunately probably won't come back to cof, slams there feel too painful if failed on lp2-lp3 items

atomic vapor
atomic vapor
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no problemo

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How come shred and not health? T7 sounds way too big for falconer

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You're probably way way overcapped

dire forge
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there was no good gloves with t7t7 dex/throw + t5+ hp

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so i went t7t7t7 shred throwing dex and amu is gonna be t7t7 throwing/multi then

atomic vapor
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Pain πŸ’”

dire forge
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yeah

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i bought like 5 pairs off market in total

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with t7t7 dex throwing

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supply isn't big for them

atomic vapor
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I think the best slot is on dagger due to how little value anything other than multi and inc% has

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Like I'd miss out on one pen for shred

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Imo small loss

dire forge
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i got phys pen on dagger

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blind would be nice as well

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but well failed 3 in a row

potent arrow
atomic vapor
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I have blind on mine but I'd honestly rather avoid cap, umbrals have autoaim, sometimes one little mob can make you go boom

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Not that it matters for softcore

dire forge
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i've got 70 avoid

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i think???

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oh no actually 35

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i mean i could swap all res bless for 70% avoid + dodge and it would still look good

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but null portent would lose its point

atomic vapor
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It has very little impact but it's annoying as hell when a crit is the reason you lose a trove. Each stray crit is 3.5k amber down

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And I hate that feeling

dire forge
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yeah

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i can't stand losing a woven echo

scenic mauve
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hi does increased physical dmg is included in the shared dmg of "trained to hunt" in the falconry tree ? and does go for the eyes always consider your highest crit chance or your "global " one ? does bow chance to shred and bleed with puncture applies to "rending talons" and blood roost ?(repost)

trim zodiac
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woven flesh ez cap. Anything between 1-99 avoid is just gambling

dire forge
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did somebody say GAMBA?

lapis pumice
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Avoid = dps on Falc, no excuse πŸ€“

dire forge
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makes total sense

lapis pumice
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Wait only for Falcon, idk if it matters for u ub nerds

atomic vapor
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Yeah it's falcon only

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So useless basically

inland yacht
trim zodiac
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u could just reduce it if you cant reach 100

inland yacht
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nono you don't understand. we're just not gonna hit the 1%

cobalt mantle
scenic mauve
crimson latch
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bruh

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turtle can crit? i swear god this was 1 lp

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1 in 1.9k

lapis pumice
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U need it to be 1+ LP in the first place

crimson latch
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the chest was 1LP

lapis pumice
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And then it rerolls 0 to 4

crimson latch
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the chest was LP and then 3lp xd

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i didnt try at 2lp

lapis pumice
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Ye that is the purpose of turtle

crimson latch
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oh

lapis pumice
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It doesnt give +1

crimson latch
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i got it

lapis pumice
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πŸ‘

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Still megalucky :D

eager mason
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but I would guess chakram is better as trikster said

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you can try the one that shoots around you too

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but you would need good gear for it to not feel shitty on rares

inland yacht
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the daggers from shadow cascade's Dagger Dance node can't shotgun, right? I haven't played with it at all

kind atlas
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40s BD flask uber kill in video shoutout if anyone interested

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also, @eager mason I made your BD flask mapping version and it's giga. it's so good, way better than everything else (mm, falc)

crimson latch
flint bough
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@bold brook Hey I'm looking for a quick fix because I really need some more cooldown recovery and i came across these. I keep the 100% reduced damage from crits but a t6 cooldown recovery. I can't do anything about the minion dodge rating because its t5. should I buy these?

bold brook
flint bough
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i bought them. i was wrong. i turned the minion t4 into movespeed t5

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this is it atm

bold brook
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oh nice

flint bough
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i got extremely lucky with that chaos

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thats the best one

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for 400k its a temporary fix imo

bold brook
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you can swap the int to dex at the Oerden's Watch woven echo

flint bough
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i know

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thats what im going to do actually

flint bough
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i got to t3 crit multi with 1 forging potential

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that was lucky tbh

bold brook
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nice

flint bough
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new boots

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old boots

atomic vapor
flint bough
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not only was it worth 400k it was worth losing 180 health. im at 4.5k health anyway with both dodge and armor mitigation so it should be okay

bold brook
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ya, thats plenty of health

flint bough
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the main reason i got these boots is because i had 3 attempts at slamming shattered chains with no success

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i wasted all my gold lol

kind atlas
atomic vapor
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Oh sorry I thought this was about flask

kind atlas
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yeah bd flask

atomic vapor
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Ohhhh my bad

kind atlas
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ive only done falconer flask vid

atomic vapor
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That's the one I watched that's why I got confused

kind atlas
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for mapping i mean

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yeah i'll do bd one. ill do mm uber and mapping after that too

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i think mm can do 40 seconds also, we'll see

eager mason
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I realized I had couple mistakes on the planner hope you changed it

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should add like experimental mod to the gloves

kind atlas
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Which bits?

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Ah yeah I thought about that

eager mason
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and had health on kill on 2 idols

kind atlas
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Yeah i changed those

eager mason
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ok nice

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rest is probably ok, if your crit is fine you can try to drop the helm

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can change the boots but wasnt really sure what to get

kind atlas
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Yeah i changed helm for seed

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Can still hit 180 stat's with evolution ammy

eager mason
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how is tha mana

kind atlas
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Mana is so comfy

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I do have t7 experimental mana jungle queen and auto pot from shift

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It works itself out so nice

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5 traps no probs

potent arrow
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Whhere can i find this BD flask planner?

sly hornet
potent arrow
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the one spicorr and Potato talked about above

sly hornet
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Oh, I don’t know the build they’re talking about specifically.

vagrant stone
potent arrow
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ah yeah see his BD planner now but its glass cannon ubberoth setup

vagrant stone
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Yea in the comments it says they are working on the mapping planner soon

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (56) / Marksman (27) / Falconer (5)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,522, Regen: 27.2/s
β–Έ Mana: 236.92, Regen: 13.04/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 24 Str / 56 Dex / 24 Int / 24 Att / 24 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 373% / 56% / 56% / 61% / 51% / 65% / 70%

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 504
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 55% (2200)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,143)
β–Έ Glancing Blow Chance: 71%
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 90%

flint bough
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yay finally! πŸ˜„

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@bold brook I finally got the slam on my 4th shattered chains and wasting 15m

flint bough
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on the shift tree

bold brook
flint bough
bold brook
flint bough
bold brook
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all 24 points you have in Marksman are better used elsewhere imo

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Spell Breaker, Outlander's Tenacity, Stamina of the Rover

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you also dont seem to have much armor shred, so Hooked Blades would be a good pickup too

flint bough
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i tried to get armor shred on my traitors tongue but I got 15 health gained on melee hit lol

bold brook
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had that happen a few times too haha

atomic vapor
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be glad traitor is such low lpl for how good it is

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one of the best parts of playing rogue imo

bold brook
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i am very suprised its lasted this long tbh

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i am totally expecting a nerf next season, especially now that its very strong for Lich now too

atomic vapor
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I am unsure as to how strong they expected lich to be

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more likely it was a numbers whoopsie again

flint bough
bold brook
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there have also been talks of concentration actually lowering damage when you get hit, despite not increasing your damage in the first place to its actually a negative

flint bough
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oh wow. im getting rid of it

bold brook
flint bough
bold brook
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% chance to take no damage from a hit

flint bough
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well i got 5% now

bold brook
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its honestly a pretty nice bonus

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was happy when i saw that patch note this season

flint bough
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yay πŸ˜„

flint bough
fossil tartan
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Quick question for any acid flask peeps - The Firebomb Cocktail node says it adds additional fire damage, but apparently the cold conversion from Vial of Volatile Ice overrides all base damage to cold. Would the added damage from this node still be fire damage or would it convert to raw cold damage like the base?

kind atlas
sly hornet
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Usually these kind of nodes specificy exactly what they will do.

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Oh, never mind. You mean an item.

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Added damage isn't base damage so it would still be fire.

flint bough
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for bladedancers

desert otter
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any good ignite setups for rogue or should i stick to spellblade?

fossil tartan
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that makes things a lot easier actually.

trim zodiac
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mike rank 1 for hc sc ssf or market?

alpine tulip
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if 2 ppl are both applying stacks of shadow daggers, how does that work, does who procs the 4th do the damage, is it doing 2 different stacks???????

crimson latch
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so falconer acid flask is the current top tier for rogue?

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or bladedancer is better at that build? @kind atlas

kind atlas
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for uber, they are about the same. i got 40s kill for both

crimson latch
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mapping?

kind atlas
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for mapping, blade dancer is better

crimson latch
kind atlas
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you can use 2 red rings for more tankiness also

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it's also less buttons to press which is good for chill farming

crimson latch
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any video? :V

kind atlas
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nah not yet, i'll do one soon

sly hornet
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Slightly different setups

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Yours looks like it would be much tankier

kind atlas
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The bd version with 2 red rings is much tankier

kind atlas
graceful notch
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How about 2k?

kind atlas
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I can give it a shot

stark leaf
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Hello, I would like to start with Rogue. What end game build do you recommend?

kind atlas
# kind atlas https://youtu.be/9QABmH_spak

Thanks to Misha for raising an issue with the build, Seed doesn't work with ward so we will have to look into a helm alternative, probably just a Dragon Visage which both a blessing and a curse, we can choose what stats we want but it's pretty hard to get a good one. I have a 2T7 Rogue helm imprint but hopefully we can envy it into a Dragon Visage base and make something great

crimson latch
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the diference between a tier S build and tier A-B its a huge gap

potent arrow
kind atlas
potent arrow
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im guessing the attack speed also feels nicer?

kind atlas
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yeah attack speed is also good

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we lost an attack speed roll on the gloves with the experimental

potent arrow
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ah i should drop my throne of ambition as im mostly just mapping

kind atlas
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yeah i dont use it at all except for uber

potent arrow
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not uber ready in the slightest

kind atlas
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at 1k you dont really need it for bosses either

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timeline and shade etc

potent arrow
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i was using the ecloe belt for a bit as i had no jungle queens yet

kind atlas
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best non jungle queen is probs brewmaster

potent arrow
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but i still got 1200 hp from pots with 75% conversion cause of all the crit and multi lmao

kind atlas
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ah yeah, it's still pretty good option and 3lp is doable

potent arrow
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found a jungle queen today tho feels good having 16 pots

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ah i cant do 1k i just die so much

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no experimental on gloves yet

kind atlas
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are you cof?

potent arrow
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yeh

kind atlas
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jungle queen easiest 3lp on cof ever

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if it gets 1 or 2lp, turtle and nem until it gets 3

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with cof bonus, it can never fail, just might take a few loops

potent arrow
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ah i just slammed it had no good experimental to go with it anyway, i can just imprint it

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my BD is kinda cobbled together from what i had lying around as i swapped from cascade

kind atlas
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yeah i was actually thinking of trying imprint to see how often it procs, it has 90% reroll rate so it's bad, but not thaaat bad.

potent arrow
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only 4100 ward as im missing the gloves experimental 1k feels deadly with long smokebomb cd

atomic vapor
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I had like 20 3lp jungle belts before I stopped

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can confirm it's easy

potent arrow
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weird i hadnt seen any at all

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with 150h+

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this season

atomic vapor
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the first one is tricky because the drop itself is rare

potent arrow
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or you mean the imrpint ?

atomic vapor
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don't do it with prophecies past the first one

potent arrow
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right

atomic vapor
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imprint and blast

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yep

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if you're hiding 0lps you might have lost a few already

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put a special rule for it or whatever

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although I don't think it can drop as 0lp at 1k

potent arrow
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nah i got the maxroll filter so it should show these rare uniques always

atomic vapor
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it's a 0lpl and those roll 1lp

potent arrow
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but the prophecies for belts are a total pita

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1 to 4 belt drops per prophesie cmon

atomic vapor
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no wait it's a 9lpl I don't know if those can naturally roll 0lp actually

kind atlas
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yeah i dont think it can drop 0lp with cof bonus

atomic vapor
kind atlas
atomic vapor
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go through the pain of filling up 1 entire tab with good prophs and you're almost certain to get one

potent arrow
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how do you deal with both smoke bomb and shift being traversals spicorr? when do u use what?

atomic vapor
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went through my old videos to see the difference in damage between pre and post nerf falconer

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151mill vs 4.5 mill

tight wraith
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this is probably a fruitless quest, but i am trying to figure out how to max out, or as close as i can, block, dodge, and endurance

flint bough
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@bold brook Having 76% faster cooldown is very good for survivability. Before I got this I had problems with packs of monsters in tombs especially when there's champions amongst them. Now I just have to keep shifting as much for survavility.

bold brook
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indeed! having more Shifts is always good

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class

Rogue / Bladedancer

Used skills

β€’ Shurikens
β€’ Shift
β€’ Shadow Cascade
β€’ Synchronized Strike
β€’ Umbral Blades

flint bough
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and did things my own way

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before I had mana regen on every gear because I had perfect coordination ol

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lol

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what a waste of prefix on every gear when i could have just taken off that node

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they should change the name of perfect coordination to perfect mana waste

bold brook
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lol

flint bough
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im going to check out your build πŸ™‚

flint bough
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honestly bladedancer is not S tier but its the perfect build for my playstyle. It's just so addicting

kind atlas
flint bough
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@bold brook I am reading about Blossom of the immortal stone. I didn't know that even existed but ignoring 3 resistances can actually bring more useful suffixes

crimson latch
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besides acid flask which build is good for uber aberroth?

bold brook
flint bough
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@bold brook what corruption are you at right now?

bold brook
flint bough
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i almost made it to rank 1 in arenas yesterday. Flick is rank 1 lol obviously

bold brook
rugged pollen
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anyone experiencing freeze bug or just me?

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occasionally i got stuck in place unable to do anything for like 3 seconds

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usually after shift or sync strike iirc

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trying to get back to the arena after the poe grind but this is pretty frustrating

atomic vapor
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My umbrals setup was approved last season too and I had no idea that was even a thing

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I log in one day and it said approved

potent arrow
atomic vapor
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for me at least during season 2, sometimes sync strike would skip the animation completely

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And you'd appear frozen in place for a couple seconds

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Then appear forward when the animation would've ended

rugged pollen
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i didnt have this bug before 0.3

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i mean 1.3

atomic vapor
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Kickstarter moment omegalul

zenith bridge
rugged pollen
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is it same for you that it only started happening since 1.3?

zenith bridge
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Yea with the latest patch

rugged pollen
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it's very likely something with sync's fasten animation

zenith bridge
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It also happened with my marksman

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So maybe something movement skill related, or when you get stunned. No clue. Similar to the cemetery/tomb bug where you are locked in place after using shift

rugged pollen
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could be "getting stunned while you're in animation of a movement skill" kind of stuff

crimson latch
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guys the better way to get 2ble t7 is with nemesis ?

lapis pumice
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yes

tight wraith
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are shadow daggers counted as shadows for the purpose of passives like skiasynthesis?

potent arrow
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these are very juicy

bold brook
ashen rampart
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ballista or explosive ballista is stronger?

eager mason
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bro who plays this

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that they fix it before concentration

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like

atomic vapor
strange cargo
lapis pumice
scenic mauve
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hi does the umbral blade thrown by aerial assaut and rasorfall are considered yours or no (scale with ur stat or falcon stat ?)can they proc hunter marc and similar effect ?

cobalt mantle
atomic vapor
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umbral blades don't proc the mark but all of the bird skills do which get casted as you go through aerial assault, divebomb and falcon strikes

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and they're more than enough

cobalt mantle
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They can pop the mark, but not apply it

atomic vapor
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yes, the mark gets consumed on the next "hit"

cobalt mantle
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Unlike acid flasks which do both lol

scenic mauve
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ok so they re yours technicly interesting

atomic vapor
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yes no falcon stats affect umbral blades whatsoever

scenic mauve
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ok on a rgular umbral blade set up (falconer) your actually never casting them ?

atomic vapor
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no you don't even need it on the bar

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this is the core of what I'd say is "required" for an umbrals setup

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anything else you see on the usual planners buff the falcon's skills for a marginal damage increase

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blade explosions do so much more damage that you can largely ignore them

scenic mauve
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ok so "sideby side" is useless her no ? similar to "united assault"of dive bomb ?

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sinc even if its yours you never cast it by yourself ?

atomic vapor
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I've seen some of the arena guys use united assault but whenever I've tried it, I don't see any increase in the frequency of dive bomb (I always get the exact same max dusk shroud stacks on Uber) so I'd say it doesn't work because you don't self cast umbrals

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But either way, the more damage on umbrals has been damage capped at 20 dusk shroud stacks this season which you already overcap, and with the amount of dusk shroud stacks you get with 32% cdr on belt and boots, the max stacks you get single target while sitting still is around 26 which overcaps your glancing blow, so you're pretty much soft capped both offensively and defensively

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Yes more shroud stacks would make you tankier and they'd give you more increased% if you ran ornate idols but yeah, personally this season I cap out at around 26 stacks with 3/5 on wings of shadow and no +1 max shadows gloves or sync strike or anything that would increase the max shadows number

scenic mauve
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ok ty for all explanation i understand a little more of the falcon interaction

atomic vapor
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no problem, feel free to ask anytime

scenic mauve
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will do gl grinding

desert otter
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happens on my spellblade with flame rush

potent arrow
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love it when the nemesis egg bricks a red ring so now i can farm another 4 days before i see one from my imprint again

tight wraith
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One of the falcon tags is melee, does that mean anytime it attacks it does melee? I am trying to use its melee to proc attaching explosive traps to proc acid flasks from the traps, which i also have coming from my falcon.

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with shurikens and bos anarchy as my attack, hence no melee

inland yacht
# cobalt mantle No

i'm honestly convinced that Toast has a 6th sense for when people are asking mechanical questions in any of the class chats. I swear every time I open one up to look at what people are talking about, Toast is in there

inland yacht
atomic vapor
inland yacht
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no I mean if you consume a mark with an umbral blade, do ailments that are applied by that umbral blade's hit also get boosted by the mark

atomic vapor
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yeah that's something I've never even looked into, I don't think I ever paid attention to a single dot number (I dislike bleed falconer)

inland yacht
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Ì was curious since the falconer's mark leads into the acid flask node

atomic vapor
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honestly I didn't even know flask applies the mark to begin with which I found so weird, especially when what you chain with the falcon is traps, which proc flasks, so a skill proccing of a skill proccing off a skill proccing the mark is a crazy enough interaction as is

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someone probably dumped the entirety of le tools inside toast's brain is the only explanation

inland yacht
atomic vapor
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I find the conversion even sillier

inland yacht
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the trap conversion on acid flask?

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give more trap skills EHG. or at least make acid flask trap good

atomic vapor
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like okay when you convert into fire, ofc you'd benefit from fire pen, but fire res boosting it further is just crazy

flint bough
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@bold brook a thing you can always do is endless arenas since you arent going for higher corruption anymore. it's tons of fun! a break from monoliths and enjoying the good content

atomic vapor
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I consider that such an uncommon interaction because it isn't a traditional damage type scaling source coversion

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if you have a melee skill and you convert from x to y, obviously +/%/more y would boost it

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but for fire res which is tied to the poison node to boost it

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wild stuff

inland yacht
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the res reductions being so bad for both poison and frostbite builds is also a real kick in the teeth too

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the node is great for fire, but poison and frostbite both have really high res reduction or penetration so it doesn't mean much

atomic vapor
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the node certainly favors the throwing/crit property of the skill and not the dot one for sure

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I know people have made dot flask builds

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but crit flask is insane

bold brook
inland yacht
atomic vapor
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they were way better season 2

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serpent strike, time rot, bleed dive bomb

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gigantic damage

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right now it's either minions or crit builds

inland yacht
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I'll kill abby with frostbite flask some day

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self cast, no explosive trap

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rabble rabble

atomic vapor
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uber?! that's gonna be a 10min fight a la ragu

inland yacht
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let's not go too crazy now

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at least normal, that's a good enough benchmark for me for meme builds

atomic vapor
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funnily enough, the offhand can be farmed 4lp but there arent' enough good things to put on it

inland yacht
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cold, DoT, chill, freeze rate

atomic vapor
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copium suffixes

inland yacht
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freeze rate is relevant with the boots

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it's like 20% cold pen for frostbite on a T5 roll

atomic vapor
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it actually scales it? I didn't know that. Goes to show how much I've looked into dot

flint bough
inland yacht