🔪┃rogue

[lapis pumice]

thing is mobbing mana isnt a problem at all tbh with 1 or 2 dials

but bossing u can't keep up with

200% drop speed ballistas

[trim dawn]

i guess only other solution is going low life

[lapis pumice]

or chaps + mana affix tbh

doubt any boss bar uber aberoth could survive that long

[pastel timber]

1 of each shape except unique

[thin quartz]

doesnt seem much when weaver idol is much better to stack

[covert elm]

anyone know if rogue got some interesting new unique items from this expac? Specifically want to know if we have more options for physical crit builds. I saw the one for deadly strikes... wonder if there is anything else that might be worth mentioning?

[sage canyon]

@terse bloom whats up with falconer this season, we tried dive bomb and shadow falcons despwan if you spam it too fast doing no dmg and birds arent real gut all dps

[left sun]

ok game you need to relax....

[cloud plover]

What kind of HS are you playing atm?

[midnight zealot]

he is playing cold

row

[frail bison]

Shadow Falcons created by the On Wings of Shadow are now created when the initial Dive Bomb lands, rather than immediately on use.

thats how it should've always been, none of this spam fakecasting nonsense

just too bad falconer also got double tapped from all sides just due to how broken fakecasting was

[sage canyon]

not if you take birds arent real tho

🤔

[frail bison]

they shouldve just fixed divebomb canceling without nerfing other nodes

[frail bison]

birds arent real always used to destroy your dmg for the same reason (can't anim cancel divebomb)

[midnight zealot]

I tried theorycrafting a bird aren’t real with multi shot last season to get as much procs as possible it was trash

No damage at all barely able to do corruption 300

With gg gear

It needs a big buff to be a viable option

[frail bison]

yeah cause all falconer dmg used to come from anim cancelling divebomb to get 30 shadow falcons per cast instead of like 4 or whatever

so birds arent real would gut your dmg

now you can't anim cancel anymore so birds aren't real doesn't gut your dmg but also divebomb has been nerfed from all sides so....

[midnight zealot]

I think it will still be bad damage wise

Cause the build I made didn’t really need to cancel animations

I just needed to proc as much hits as possible for the bird to get as much flat dmg as possible but the multiplicative damage of the bird itself is bad af

[frail bison]

of course

their falconer balance was so terrible cus it was balanced around bad anim cancelling design

and now that they are preventing anim cancelling the skill should've gotten buffs to compensate a bit but instead they nerfed it even more

[terse bloom]

yh dunno man, still testing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW856hYlUy4

[flint turret]

Does anyone use or tried somnia with ll cascade? I somewhat forgot about it and it seems pretty nice

[potent arrow]

was it possible to havoc experimental affixes?

[kind atlas]

yeah

[frail bison]

looks good and ethical

[potent arrow]

do i slam this on a 2lp boulder fist or wait till 3lp, its like 1100 ward if i hit both

[frail bison]

this item isn't amazing just throw it on 2lp you'll get more later

[potent arrow]

yeah nothing to special just 1100 ward feels insane

[rotund plover]

what are u guys running in your woven node on tree?

[potent arrow]

rampant coast and a random one

[flint turret]

Multi-orobyss fight currently

Or caches or nemesis

[potent arrow]

i thought they removed the caches one, still havent gotten that one lmao lvl 96

[lapis grove]

Hearseeker Bleed is not a thing anymore? Been trying to make it work but it can't seem to clear at a reasonable speed

[rotund plover]

was it ever a thing?

i only ever ran coldseeker

[flint turret]

For bosses, kinda

[left sun]

POV time to settle ;-;

[flint turret]

check put WHERE i died

[zenith bridge]

i saw some people with either dancing strike or pure shadow cascade combo using the Deadly Ambush/Braskula nodes in Shift tree. I tested it and i couldnt see any higher numbers for sc for those who are interested

[lapis pumice]

@zenith bridge it's me the hydra guy on youtube 👋

pale ox should work with ballista tho right ?

tanky normal ballista build uses it i believe

[zenith bridge]

hey 🙂 you are right this works, was only thinking about falcon because ballistas explode anyways

[lapis pumice]

yeh but the main way they do is because you have 2 up and you drop a 3rd, going past summon limit

so you always have 2 around

[zenith bridge]

im interested how this build will look for sure, i like the setup!

[cloud plover]

Currently playing it and it works very well. Like 2 seconds for 999+ on bosses and clear is pretty good with Puncture procs. Although without the new gloves it kinda sucks. If they fix the bug on the new gloves clear will be even better.

[lapis pumice]

yeah will keep it updated, i'm fixing the build's problems as i'm grinding for the gear atm 😂

[flint turret]

why have farmed peak recently on cof? were you getting more than 1 peak her run at least sometimes? i remember getting 2 often last season but now im getting one every run

[potent arrow]

the helmet item?

[flint turret]

yeah

[potent arrow]

i dont really run the dungeon, i just hope i see the mobs in my echo's

[flint turret]

it has 45 to 50% droprate so with 150% bonus from cof i should be getting 2 resonably often as i used to

but i did like 10-15 and not a single double drop

[potent arrow]

is getting high lp peaks easier from the dungeon? dunno if it has added lp chances with higher difficulty

[flint turret]

for cof definetly, you are gerring 1+ every kill. well, at least used to. now im getting one

nwm i was just unlucky i got 2 after like 10-15 kills

for mg i guess you just buy it like everything else

[potent arrow]

im cof as well

i also keep forgetting there is that portal charm nowadays

really hate dungeons in this game with their maze layout

[minor locust]

What's the bug on those bleed gloves?

[stone whale]

Playing umbral blades, currently I don't have any armour shred. I have a 1 LP Ammy that I can slam Shred, Throw Dmg, or crit multi on. Any recommendations? I'm leaning to shred or the throw damage myself but I'm unsure which would be the biggest increase

[flint turret]

yeah after they added portal charms ive never ran a full dungeon

[terse bloom]

Throw dam, u can get shred off aerial assault tree and marksman passive

[stone whale]

Aight, thanks!

[rugged pollen]

yo guys do i need fp left on my item to swap attribute?

[flint turret]

yes it costs one

[rugged pollen]

does rerolling idol change its roll only or change everything

[crimson latch]

any tech for beast portals farm?

[rigid latch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/engel99/character/engelengel any suggestions what to upgrade next? did i miss something important?

[cloud plover]

Currently the bleed explosion is around the player instead of the mob so it's basically worthless on ranged builds.

[potent arrow]

everything

[flint turret]

guys can someone remind me of how the last cof lvl works? will it double the prophesies i purchased before i got the last lvl?

[potent arrow]

if i remember correctly it just dubbels the drops when u fullfil one

ah yeh so you can buy prophesies at lvl 11 and when you hit 12 these prophesies will also double drop

retroactively

was one of the tactics to amass favor and buy yourself prophesies into lvl 12

[flint turret]

yeh okay ty i rememebr this correctly then

[brisk lantern]

How's Heartseeker doing this season?

Not feeling all these other playstyles, I just want a pew pew bow

[wide yacht]

i bought architects armor piece 7 times, 0 LP
meaning i did nemesis egg on it 7 times, it bricked every time

hello?

[crimson latch]

im doing amazing with crit cold version with truesigh amulet, im working on tank (dodge rating and health) because sometimes i got pwned by 2 hits

[brisk lantern]

Okay nice I will try it, thanks

[fast heath]

hey, can someone send some nice shadow cascade build?

[potent arrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P07VeUNQbj4

[left sun]

gssf

[lapis pumice]

w

[flint turret]

im 30+ peaks deep into no 3lp cof

looks wrong

[cloud plover]

According to some discussions on Reddit there might be a scaling bug where mobs are dealing up to twice the damage they should.

[rigid latch]

yo im playing acid flask should i change from marksman to falconer setup from this gear standpoint? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/engel99/character/engelengel

[mortal valley]

how do i build survivability on rogue? evasion life seems very lacklustre

marksman specifically

[wide root]

core of the mountain / build res to cap /

[minor locust]

I see, still the chance conversion into bleed is juicy

[inner musk]

just started my rouge alt what builds do you recommed for uber abberoth?

[hybrid marsh]

whats the ancient bones strat? never pick for lineage?

@flint turret i think you said something like that right?

[flint turret]

yeah it seemed to work for me

you are not getting amulets tho if you care about them

[cloud plover]

It's great even with the bug

[nocturne ether]

Was there a recommended hs bleed build guide? Playing acid flask now, but dropped the gloves and I miss playing hs.

[pearl forge]

you end lineage every time you can to get the portal again

also im going to try melee bleed with the gloves seems cool will just update the last BBC one i did for this season then farm gear for that other one

will be funny popping a 2k+ bleed with puncture

[flint turret]

if i miss shred ill lose it

whew we good

[lapis pumice]

@terse bloom @zenith bridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFSdzPRN8ik

Still crappy gear, bossing damage is there already

& clear still top notch

surely good buildge at the end copium

fixed armor shred with falcon+mm nodes, consistent 40+ stacks on boss now, shred efficiency could solve low stacks to reach soft cap faster

i have only mana regen julras atm

with mana regen+dex julra

that's like 60 dex burst

for jiga damge

[ebon python]

Is fire acid flask falconer mainly built around you throwing traps to proc acid flask, or for the falcon to throw them?
Leaning towards the former.

[lapis pumice]

u throw

u need x2 minus throwing mana cost on rings to make mana cost bearable on falc

[ebon python]

I see, thanks!

[lunar socket]

@flint turret Do the amount of bones available in ancient caves/from rift beasts scale with corruption?

[lapis pumice]

(might even need T8 mana cost i'm not sure, no expert of the bild)

[flint turret]

im not sure actually, im pretty low corr (below 400)

but i would say yes

[ebon python]

?

[flint turret]

pog someone made hydra ballista i was asking another day

[ebon python]

<@&1161418687471956101> Not sure what's going on?

[lapis pumice]

potential is there for sure, mapping is S tier tbh, i played warpath S2 and flay this season, it might even be faster than those

[ebon python]

Thanks

[lapis pumice]

you just never stop while screen explode, very funny

explosion damage is hidden but it's around 2m+ on dummy already rn

and i miss a ton of dex & flat

[flint turret]

why this boots tho?

[lapis pumice]

64% evade CDR

i want exalted base with this implicit

but didnt find them so far

[flint turret]

but mourningfrost could give so much more damage

[lapis pumice]

i think bis would be exalted base with cdr - minion traversal - dex - movespeed

yes mourning double the damage

but i don't have atm the mana sustain to consistently blast screen

and dont need that damage yet

[flint turret]

i see

[lapis pumice]

so those are safer

[potent arrow]

1300 ward gloves slot, im at 5450 now

[flint turret]

how about dive with featherfall instead of smoke

it can generate extra mana

and rapid pursuit

[lapis pumice]

could try ty for the ideas

i'm no rogue expert so appreciate inputs you guys give

i'll try your idea later

[flint turret]

im just glad someone gave it a go

[lapis pumice]

basically changing the 3 support slots multiple times a day atm

[flint turret]

i also had a another different idea for ballista too

but it would use it as a ward generator basically

[lapis pumice]

rapid pursuit generate mana from featherfall ?

ngl the whole starting idea was "lazy build that press space", and now it's turning into a real falc 💀

[flint turret]

hunter spoils generate mana from featherfall

[lapis pumice]

i see

i'll try

[flint turret]

also

right

okay so

you need to adjust falco strikes a bit

the idea is you cast falcon strikes on a boss while you spam ballista and every hit will deal x2.5 more damage on mark

or maybe not? im not sure if ballista explode consumes it

need to test

[lapis pumice]

i tried and no

[flint turret]

damn

[lapis pumice]

what consumes it is the evade proc

[flint turret]

yeah thats whatever

[lapis pumice]

basically i'm just using it as 15% ms buff cuz nothing better

atm

[flint turret]

yeah

[lapis pumice]

🤓

[lusty wagon]

have 2 boots exa with dupli runes

[crimson grove]

I was going to follow TriKster's Wildfire Embers ignite prolif Heartseeker Marksman but that amulet turned out to be huge bait. Are there any other good fire based marksman builds? or should I just do something else with marksman

[minor locust]

Can go crit heartseeker with dragonsong

[crimson grove]

I don't like the fact you need to be in almost melee with Dragonsong

It is probably very good though

[minor locust]

Well more than the proc is that there are very nice stats on that bow

I would like to try bleed heartseeker but i'm playing a paladin atm

[terse bloom]

https://youtu.be/tXK-2VbRgKg

[flint turret]

hoa, traps

[rugged fern]

I switched to Ice Heartbreaker recently cuz i got 2-3 T5 on my wep by chance and a really good quiver for cold HS. I also got Dragonsong but dunno which is best

What would you suggest guys

[potent arrow]

is there a list with idol enchants u can get at the woven enchanter?

[flint turret]

I'd recommend getting t7 flat crit on row and either flat crit primo body or crit amulet

You can also go into ward stack with soulgambler

[rugged fern]

hmm, t7 is only by drops right ?

[flint turret]

Yeah but you can havoc it

[rugged fern]

hmm i see

I'll priotize crit more as I also thought

Thanks for the advice mate

[potent arrow]

@flint turret whats your woven faction level and character level?

[flint turret]

97, as for woven dunno, can you see it in import? I haven't been farming embers at all, but I cleared almost all woven echoes except maybe 2-3

Ragulol/ragulcind

[potent arrow]

hmm only see the CoF level at first glance

the weaver faction feels terribly slow, but i havent farmed embers either

still no lost trove echo found, dunno if thats still the best for farming items

[flint turret]

It's pretty good for farming

I have taken woven echoes dropped from rares and champions early so that definetly helped getting points from maps

I struggled only with getting mage prison but it drops only from mages

[potent arrow]

i also took all the woven echo points in the tree

[minor locust]

wouldn't be decent for bleed heartseeker? attack speed buff + chance to recast

[rich panther]

hello folks, this is my marksman

[rich panther]

i'd like to get experienced advice on what should i get / aim for thought all the possible gear

[flint turret]

1 question: do you know you can import your character into lastepochtools or maxroll?

[rich panther]

no

[flint turret]

now you do

post a planner and someone will take a look hopefully

[rich panther]

how i can do it

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Erestion/character/Idriel

this is what you told about

[flint turret]

more or less yes

get t7 flat crit on a bow, and preferably reign of winter instead of hydra. boots swap to mourningfrost and stack dex

fremzy nodes in puncture to the left

[rich panther]

to do this i need to get another bow

currently i farm for it

[rich panther]

so my aim is to play into frost damage?

[flint turret]

because its the only decent source of bow flat damage

leave this 1-0 instead of 4-5

gtt this

rest is more or less okay

[rich panther]

i see

i can do it if i'll bet the bow you named

i guess

currently there's no sense in switching from armor shred build

[flint turret]

ou dont need armor shred on hs

it alsredy has it in its tree

[rich panther]

on hs? i'm pretty newbie so don't except me to know everything

[flint turret]

you have it

its enpugh

[rich panther]

having more means nothing?

[flint turret]

pretty much

[rich panther]

like it won't be like 2 stacks intead of 1?

[flint turret]

also you can remove 5 points in shred from the beginning of the mm tree

[rich panther]

if i have 200%

[flint turret]

it will

but it falls off

at like 80+ stacks

[rich panther]

i get 450 stacks after 2 seconds of shooting

[flint turret]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor

[rich panther]

and 2 seconds is time for bosses to live, others die even faster

[flint turret]

you dont ever need more than 120

check the link

[rich panther]

you mean no one will have more armor and 120 will be enough to lower it to 0?

[flint turret]

check the link

[rich panther]

i don't get it

[flint turret]

shred armor is basically more damage multiplier

it literally flattens out after around 120

[rich panther]

so you basically mean it does nothing?

after 120+

[flint turret]

and you will transition into elemental which is even worse for shred

[rich panther]

well i'd say after 150+

[flint turret]

whatever

[rich panther]

can you show your rogue?

i wonder what is your playstyle

[flint turret]

which one kekw

i would assume hs?

i only have it from last season

[rich panther]

i thought having more armor shred also means enemy will have more damage when enemy's armor went lower than 0 like -1300

[flint turret]

it works exactly like that

[rich panther]

like i tried to play lighting build with explosive arrow

[flint turret]

1 shred = -100 armor

but armor caps at 85% and -85%

for phys*

[rich panther]

but elemental felt so low on damage that even basic hearseeker had better dps

and at that moment i had items for elemental damage and passives too

[flint turret]

hs is better nowadays for sure, unless its a manastacking DA for boss killing only

[rich panther]

ah also

is this item good?

[flint turret]

for some builds yes

where HS is not a main damage

[rich panther]

oh

like a supp skill

[flint turret]

yes

[rich panther]

if i have a item which doesn't have legendary potential and it's unic, what i can try to get legendary potential on it?

[flint turret]

hs is a great skill to start LE with imo. probably the best skill mechanically on rogue overall

[rich panther]

and where or how i can make t 7 affixes?

[midnight zealot]

i did some tests with it last season, it was bad

[flint turret]

nemesis

[rich panther]

honestly it feets the playstyle for me that i except rogue to have

in past i tried rogue melee build and i was pretty much frustrated

[rich panther]

but it's random yes?

[flint turret]

dunno, cascade is great

[minor locust]

but now you have those primordial gloves....

[flint turret]

yeah it will either get LP or legendary random affix(es)

[rich panther]

thanks for your help i really appreciate it ❤️

when i'll get needed stuff for frost build i'll show it there and ping you

[flint turret]

its still not useless even if it got a useless afiix, later you will be able to sacrifice the item, to reroll another same item

[rich panther]

until this i'll be on this current build (it just works for me)

[rich panther]

hmm from bosses?

what about t 7 affixes?

[flint turret]

from endgame woven echoes

[midnight zealot]

maybe idk, tbf i stopped theorycrafting on HS since nothing changed, and it was overhyped last season cause new skill, the main ideas for season 3 where all using the wildfire but since it is bad ..

[rich panther]

should i aim to farm futher echoes? currently i just try to clear low lvl echoes and do quest of circle of fortune

[flint turret]

t7 affixes just drop on exalted items and you use temporal dungeon to transxer an exalted affix into a unique with lp

[rich panther]

i don't try to rush zones or smth

[rich panther]

so they just drop lol xD

didn't saw one yet

maybe only on 2 handed

not sure tho

i thought you need to make in some way t 7 from some boss and then make it t 8 somehow

[flint turret]

well, you can also "force" and shuffle T7 between 4 affixes on the item with a havoc rune

so i guess you can say you can craft t7 exalts with the affix you need

[midnight zealot]

with frost hs you should be able to push to 800 without investing alot into the character, 1lp RoW and mourningfrost are enough tbf since you'll be able to kill mobs before they are able to hit you x)

[minor locust]

i want to try stuff with those gloves but i can't drop em lol

[midnight zealot]

but for now you should try to farm at 300 corruption

[rich panther]

800? you mean 800 corruption? i didn't even started corruption lmao

[flint turret]

yeah i stopped last season at 1500 without using crazy gear

[midnight zealot]

you should start and farm at 300 then, it'll help you gather your items alot easier

[rich panther]

i don't even know how to get there

[flint turret]

you need to cleat 90 lvl mono

and then go to empowered monos

[rich panther]

ah i see

[midnight zealot]

with heartseeker there is no point staying on low monos, since you barely need anything to achieve 300

[flint turret]

do it asap there is no reason to stay at non-empowered

[rich panther]

what is your thoughts about doing poison build playing around hydra arc bow?

[midnight zealot]

no point with HS

[flint turret]

dot has better single target but worse clear

[rich panther]

when i first saw it my thoughts was like: they want us to play it via poison build?

[flint turret]

like much worse

[midnight zealot]

the only thing we could argue about is going bleed when the gloves are patched i would say

but even that i'm pretty sure cold will be more efficient

[rich panther]

i didn't said the clear skill will be hs

like it could be any good for poison skill

[midnight zealot]

oh

[rich panther]

i just wonder what is good for this bow

[midnight zealot]

then we don't really know atm

[flint turret]

poison is just bad in general nowadays

its either bleed or ignite or frostbite

[rich panther]

because i like it's mechanic of repetable attack after evade

really cool

[midnight zealot]

the only build that seems to works fine with the hydra bow for now are some ballistas shenanigans

[rich panther]

maybe good with hail of arrows idk

[flint turret]

hs can play with it too imo

[rich panther]

so basically a summoner build?

[flint turret]

but there is no real reason to do it

[rich panther]

guys another question those champions and imprinosed mages drop gear which is always low on craft potential and lvl

will they ever drop something decent to work on/equip?

like at least 40 forge potential

[midnight zealot]

yes, but not for alot of builds tho

some items are really good for low life builds or summoners, as marksman not really

alot of marksman builds are using only uniques atm and you will just try to imprint t7s in 2 or 3 lps unique so ...

[rich panther]

yeah i already thought of that

chances of making item that is better than buffed unique is pretty low

but they also have their strong sides

like with this armor where i get +8 dex

and yeah i'm not really happy that it's not for marksman entirely but at least it's better than others

honestly i have no idea wich armor i should aim for

[midnight zealot]

Yeah maybe, but staying heartseeker you will definitely want either a null potent or a wall of nothing if combined with elemental arrows for ward

[rich panther]

is there any relic items for rogue that rogue uses?

[midnight zealot]

Not sure about that one either, I’ve been using uber aberroth’s relic or the sphere

[flint turret]

in general? anchor or twisted heart or uber relic

for cold hs you cal also use ucenui

[earnest wren]

What is the best build for marksman and what i need to this build work ?

[rich panther]

for start you can just copy my current build i guess good for newcomers

[earnest wren]

im lvl 86 heartseeker from maxroll

[rich panther]

i mean relic items not the relic that character uses

like maybe there's some good relic bow

[midnight zealot]

you lost me there x)

[rich panther]

green items

idk how to explain it

[midnight zealot]

oh, sets

[earnest wren]

@rich panther where i can find ur build ?

[rich panther]

they're called relics

[rich panther]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Erestion/character/Idriel

[midnight zealot]

no, they pretty much need some buffs

[rich panther]

so they weak in general

[midnight zealot]

yes

[rich panther]

and to use it you need to invest in them but it's possible only in late game

[midnight zealot]

even late game

we don't use any

[rich panther]

well when i see low lvl good sets for other classes

i'm like man

where's my good set items

[midnight zealot]

and swap your bow btw

[rich panther]

now i know they don't exist 😂

[midnight zealot]

for a RoW

[rich panther]

currently it's the best i have

[midnight zealot]

ok, RoW is easy to get so you should be able to have it soon

[rich panther]

and since it's seasonal i'll try to get few bowes with 2-3 legendary potential

[midnight zealot]

you can literally farm RoW

[rich panther]

i'm sorry but could you show picture of it?

[midnight zealot]

it's a boss reward from one of the timelines

[rich panther]

LP 4

nani

i thought 3 is max

+60 dmg and +45 +39

wow just wow it's really good for ice build

[flint turret]

i wish they were dropping when i was playing hs kekw

[rich panther]

and my quiver also fits this well

[rich panther]

i dream of it

but you saw my idols xD

the best i could get

[flint turret]

yeah this one is really rare i never had it for my hs

eleres high roll suffix that is

[midnight zealot]

i was using these last season x)

and full cold res/pen lol

[rich panther]

real chad build

why be a baby and hope for good idol

just finish the game using regular

[midnight zealot]

you need this one

it will increase your dps

[rich panther]

yeah very good one

and 4 seconds cooldown per drop

is crazy amount of time

[midnight zealot]

and you need to do your monos cause no blessings is crazy x)

[rich panther]

ah

for all monos i get a blessing

okay

[midnight zealot]

yes

[rich panther]

now i get it

[midnight zealot]

some more usefull than others

[rich panther]

and then i reroll it doing more clearing in same mono area

this is how it works

well this game never tries to teach you some stuff until you go and ask about it in google or community

[rich panther]

thankfully there's some chads who could help

[midnight zealot]

you need these as cold heartseeker

[rich panther]

30% endurance as blessing is op

btw is it possible to make a broken tank in this game?

i'm wondering because i saw one guy abusing new primal armor

everything around him just died

[flint turret]

as a sentinel more or less yeas afaik

[rich panther]

literally died

[midnight zealot]

if you're going for cold res stacking like i was doing you need to change some nodes on your heartseeker btw

[rich panther]

and he was playing on some guy who could transform and casted some vians

[rich panther]

i know, Ragulol told me

[midnight zealot]

and get rid of this

this is really bad

[rich panther]

but to do it i need to get proper gear for it right?

[midnight zealot]

ok ok mb

x)

[rich panther]

like i change for it when i have RaW bow yes?

[midnight zealot]

you can change it already tbf

[rich panther]

and also all passive points to elemental damage and so on

maybe it also could do explosive arrow playable via frost build too

hmm

[midnight zealot]

no stacking cold res is only for hs

[rich panther]

explosive arrow has some buff that for each overcapped cold protection % you get more dmg

nvm it's just a freeze rate

and lastly but not less importantly

i don't like how much hype summoners get and those afk builds that needs 0 skill from player except right build

every second good item i get is summoner stuff

i'm honestly bored of it

and like it was on twitch translation when s3 started to get some little rewards

bear build op haha

[midnight zealot]

i mean last season summoners were trash, they had to buff it, so now it's to a point where ppl want to play it

[rich panther]

streamer just got bear which literally one shots everything

[midnight zealot]

but there are always some meta builds

[rich panther]

oh i see, since i just started it makes sense for me i don't know how it was

so it looks like this for me

i remember i tried acolyt summoner in past she was good

golem + skeletons army was sick

[midnight zealot]

heartseeker was being played by almost 40% of the player base last season, it got hyped and ppl were saying that it is broken, where in fact HS is just ok and could profit some buffs in flat dmg x)

[rich panther]

i didn't played LE for quite a tiem

[rich panther]

and i thought acolyt necro minigun build was borken

you probably know that build it's kinda like hs

[midnight zealot]

now this season barely anyone played it, but nothing changed for that skill, so it is still as "broken" as what they were saying, but since the skill isn't new anymore ppl are not playing it x)

[rich panther]

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

just show them poster with gal size 4 and they'll forgot everything

[rich panther]

do you?

[midnight zealot]

in the other hand next season, cause obviously they wont buff wildfire this season, i think HS can be meta

[rich panther]

what about hail of arrows?

[lapis pumice]

surely new BD skill next season

[midnight zealot]

the lich one ?

[rich panther]

yes i think

[midnight zealot]

it's still good, but since flay is new and strong

[rich panther]

where lich runs autoattacks desintegrate everything

[midnight zealot]

ppl are playing flay rn

[rich panther]

and it's fast and lich is almost unkillable

[midnight zealot]

but it still works the same if not better

[lapis pumice]

i think there's a lot of cooking on rogue this season for janky stuff

to be made

[midnight zealot]

good but need investments

[rich panther]

i guess can be a little better but depends on clear speed and speed in general damage to mobs. probably among those 2 the better gear one will do faster imo

what about melee rogue builds?

anyone plays them?

[midnight zealot]

not many players no

but some here are

[lapis pumice]

blade dancer is in a good spot

[rich panther]

yeah i tried in past and didn't liked

[lapis pumice]

got some qol buffs & attack speed buffs

[midnight zealot]

cause bladedancer sucks compared to other masteries atm, it needs some love

[rich panther]

lmao

[lapis pumice]

but not many variants are playable at high corruption, it's go shadow cascade or go home

[midnight zealot]

still playable tho

[rich panther]

what about lethal mirage?

[lapis pumice]

funky build

[rich panther]

i mean shadow cascade for clear

mirage for bosses

[lapis pumice]

shadow cascade for everything

[rich panther]

no other way?

[lapis pumice]

you can scale it very very hard with idols & gear

[rich panther]

i see

[lapis pumice]

on blade dancer it's the most relevant skill

but funky stuff can still clear this season

powerlevel is overall higher

[rich panther]

well nvm, heartseeker goes brrr poof enemies gone 😂

[lapis pumice]

i made some home cook and i'm 400 corruption and pushing still

so much damage now for everyone

[rich panther]

can you show your build?

[lapis pumice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbmMNg0CHY4

autobomber with the new bow

explosion damage is not displayed in game but it's around 4m on dummy atm

idea is to roll to proc discounted traps that drop discounted ballista that go boom to clear screen with 1 button 🤝

if you do any of this manually the mana becomes unbearable pretty quickly

but mana discount from hydra makes it work kind of

[rich panther]

you mean evade when character does this little roll yes?

[lapis pumice]

yeah

[rich panther]

so in general it works for falkoner

[lapis pumice]

when you evade you repeat last bow action 3 times

i changed traps to a bow attack in masteries

so it drops 10+ traps every roll

[rich panther]

god

[lapis pumice]

that can proc other traps and proc ballista

[rich panther]

poor mobs

[lapis pumice]

and then ballista explodes

[rich panther]

have some mercy

[lapis pumice]

the explosion scales with dex, both radius and damage

hence the fat aoe

[rich panther]

when i'll get to late game i'll think about marksman build with new bow

[lapis pumice]

my main always meta but

i always do some rogue side project on the side 😂

[rich panther]

hydra makes impossible things possible

[lapis pumice]

yeah

not so ez to make use of tho

a lot of stuff u think about, you're better off just pressing the button manually

[lapis pumice]

even on the build i made, it's nice QOL for mapping but for pure bossing, classic ballista build would work better prolly

i do manual cast on boss anyway even

[rich panther]

hydra works well so it's not a big deal since roll isn't long

i think it's not that bad

the thing is you need to get familiar with such new mechanic

[lapis pumice]

i mean it makes the mapping best in the game rn imo

this build

i played both lich and spin 2 win vk

this is prolly faster than both

depends on map i guess

[rich panther]

i'm not that experienced so i'll just trust you

[lapis pumice]

if packs connect properly for flay to go zoom zoom it's hard to beat 😂

[rich panther]

yeah having a bit better vision around could help a lot

even for melee build

just to have some time to plan your attack beforehand

idk why is it like this

but still most enemies just spawn under your fit

well idk why but for me LE is much more fun than PoE

or any other diabloid

[lapis pumice]

the gameplay is top notch imo

only grudge i have is repetitiveness after a while

content is not that varied

best way to gear is more or less the same from last season

[rich panther]

i guess for such games it's okay

like no matter what you do you still just kill mobs in the end, it could be some maps with some traps or idk which can give some other rewards to you but is it really matters? other games exist for it hard to tell what is better and if there must be other game modes to have more variety how they must look then

[lapis pumice]

ye i guess it's part of the genra

but LE is really repetitive

[rich panther]

you would like more if it could be more flexible for players or like more ways to get stuff?

[lapis pumice]

loops like diablo2 kind of

like

you run 100's of the same 3-5 meta woven echoes

if you wanna gear asap that is

more ways to get stuff yeah

basically there's a totally broken map in the game, that spawns with a bunch of chests

and in your "atlas", you can imprint an item

for those chest to give you items of the similar kind

[rich panther]

and just open all chests and get stuff

[lapis pumice]

so the whole end game gearing is grind currency to buy this very map

and spam it

[rich panther]

at this moment devs knew: they figured out xd

[lapis pumice]

well they did nerf the cost of it i think this season ?

last season the map was cheaper

[worldly mirage]

any rgoue tutors avail to help me gear to get to the 70+ monoliths?

[rich panther]

wdym again

to help you gear? like to trade?

[worldly mirage]

i am trying to not be squishy as a melee

[rich panther]

so you want to play in party?

[worldly mirage]

having trouble gambling and crafting better gear

[rich panther]

so how i can help you?

[worldly mirage]

advise - what can i do to get gear like in guides

[rich panther]

okay it's pretty simple ngl

[worldly mirage]

its all 75+ and i am stalling at 64ish

[rich panther]

first things first you need to choose cheap build that works even without gear

like if your gear isn't great yet it still works

you farm stuff with this build until you get basic stuff for what you want and need to play the build you choosen

then you swap to this build and enjoy the game

some builds need investment

[worldly mirage]

i am a blade dance, what build should i bee building?

[rich panther]

so i think the way i propose you is the smooth way to do it

[rich panther]

as people just told above only one build is working for blade dance currently

shadow cascade build

about the build itself idk, but i guess you can ask @flint turret or @midnight zealot or @lapis pumice

[worldly mirage]

ok ty

[flint turret]

cascade is really good currently you can look up trikster guide on maxroll its up-to-date

[midnight zealot]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/h6g6d0qs#1

[rugged pollen]

who tf said that

[crimson latch]

most of the primordial are garbage or bugged..

[flint turret]

its the same with any class. last season i bet they would say only umbrals worked on a falconer

[vast lily]

Could someone help me with what to focus on with my zhp balista falconeer? I probably shouldn't have gone zhp build as im really not liking just getting 1 shot by bosses/stuff on the ground.. I just started corrupted monos and dying like 1 in every 2 mono, and killing the boss is like 7 attempts..
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/AceHyperion/character/Hype

[rugged pollen]

i'd suggest you go for something else instead of zhp ballista

as that sounds very bad

you're not enjoying the game

[vast lily]

it's fine when im not just getting 1 shot when I don't have dusk shroud stacks. but maybe I'm just not understanding how to keep them up?

[rugged pollen]

you dont keep them up

you kill everything before they get into your sight

[vast lily]

hmm I'll try and scale my damage too, im missing like all important blessings by the look, I have some really good 3 LP gear waiting for donor too. I might go back to non corrupted monos to get those blessings and see if I can get some better dmg and idols etc.

Oh and the other thing, I have mourningfrost lp but cannot find an exalted with experimental teleport minions on transversal. is there a trick to getting that onto an exalted, or just really rare/requires higher corruption to have exalted experi gear?

[flint turret]

Mage prison woven echo

[hollow creek]

are there any good lvling builds ?

[vast lily]

Is that woven echo the only source? Or Can it drop normally from normal mages? And is there anything on the weaver tree that will help?

[sinful gyro]

hi guys, back again with another question, if i use heartseeker only for the frezy and leech buff, why whould i run the dart helmet instead of a more tanky one?

[mental perch]

What’s that one called again

[crimson latch]

I think truesight is bugged cause a guy is doing more dmg with 300crit multplier than with truesight lol

[errant thicket]

just started playing not too long ago, it's been a long time I've enjoyed this much! Still quite confused about the mechanics and 100% this have asked before; Detonating arrow's node to change it to fire and shock chance to ignite chance, what happens then to the node 'shock duration' will it change to ignite duration?

[wild harbor]

you can get alot of acid flask lvls now uwu

idk the meta now but the new dagger lel

also evolutions end until nihilis

[rugged pollen]

oh apparently there is a bug with mob dam scaling lol

i was scratching my head

i dont remember monster hitting this hard

1k shade hitting for 35k after reduction lol

[wild harbor]

actually dang idk

do you use the +4 dagger or the wildfire ammy

i guess wildfire likes ignites more

but it is extra casts

when you arent using trap

but thats losing 6 potential passive points uwu

[stiff sable]

is rogue even worth playing this season???

[rugged pollen]

[flint turret]

No, move along, nothing to see here

[terse bloom]

light push

[ashen lance]

What build

[terse bloom]

yh

[terse bloom]

shadow dag ub/db/bleed

[sage canyon]

Cause you can get it with 3lp and get same all ""tanky"" affixes as your tanky helmet xd

Jokes aside people don't want to manually cast hs

[sage canyon]

It has at least 3 top lvl builds in the game , but you better move along

[potent arrow]

i got 57% character sheet crit, any idea why some cascades dont crit on dummies?

[flint turret]

hey do you have your dancing cascade planner? i tried to llok it up but the old planner doesnt open for me on maxroll from yt video

[ashen lance]

Anyone know if lightning bladedancer build with traps works?

[terse bloom]

+100% dive aoe

[sage canyon]

wait really, can you send me which vid ill correct

[flint turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjc_KjdsD8M

[sage canyon]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/77h9k0g9#1

here planner

[flint turret]

you later said you optimized it a bit too but i havent looked at the planner

ty

[sage canyon]

oh ye that vid is from season 2

dont look at it

x.x

[sage canyon]

i was actually thinking what if on higher budget go exhang and not this chest and then go primordial t8 phys dmg dagger

might be more dmg, but i didnt try to optimize for giga gear

[flint turret]

i think the most damge you can get is by doing primo damage per shadow

[sage canyon]

like t8 phys dps+t7 melee crit primordial dagger+eye of reen and 3lp exhang

[sage canyon]

yee i was thinking abt it on life version but after testing in game with new cascade and dancing the mana seems literally impossible on life version

and if i lose dancing that affix is not worth cause of how crazy dancing boosts your dps

[flint turret]

yeah mana is an issue for sure

[sage canyon]

i mean you can go LL exhang and primordial helmet

[flint turret]

im not using dancing rn and im okay with having no mana regen on gear

[sage canyon]

but then crit capping is painge

[flint turret]

crit cap is still easy

points in rogue+weapons of choise solve it entirely

[sage canyon]

how much attack speed do u have? and did u go any mana eff idols/affixes?

[flint turret]

i have just recently transitioned and havent completed slams yet

[sage canyon]

cuae with big attack speed dancing strikes with +5 mana node was gutting my mana on top of faster sync strike and after testing i neeeded t5 eff and 2 t7 mana regen 💀

[flint turret]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdO0KgOA

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (66) / Marksman (20) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,455, Regen: 19.72/s
▸ Mana: 144.5, Regen: 9.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 41%, Regen: 20/s
▸ Attributes: 30 Str / 27 Dex / 18 Int / 18 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 81% / 79% / 105% / 69% / 74% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 491
▸ Dodge Chance: 28% (933)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,123)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Synchronized Strike

[sage canyon]

but thats to sustain on dummy

in maps obviously its easier cause u dont spam that much

[flint turret]

abby doesnt want to give me any decent nihilis

[sage canyon]

oh ye you dont use dancing, so no mana issues

smoke bomb is very solid alternative for sure

[flint turret]

yeah like i said no dancing yet

i can slam t4 danc on relic

but im worried about not having mana

[sage canyon]

from my testing you can sustain dancing without +5 node pretty easy with just 1 t7 regen or efficiency helm+idol

[flint turret]

can slam t7 mana on ring i guess

[sage canyon]

i think i went t5 dancing, t7 is only if you want to abuse the cascade snapshot and pickup the node on top that procs it

i went more eithical no abuse case just pure buffer

[flint turret]

i dont expect to slam 2lp twisted anytime soon so its either t7 dancing or 180 hp

[sage canyon]

i think its BIS slam on rings for sure, you dont need % dmg or stats cause we have over 1.2k increases already

like we dont need anything there just res and mana regen

and crit avoid

[flint turret]

avoidance and 100% health to potion tho

[sage canyon]

wait u can grab it on the ring?

[flint turret]

yes

[sage canyon]

i didnt know lmfao

[sage canyon]

hmmm 180 health or pot converted to ward

pot might be worth it

[flint turret]

yeah thats why im still wearin an unslammed nomad kekw

[sage canyon]

ty ye ill update then but losing 180 health is monkaa

[flint turret]

true

[sage canyon]

actually i dont need to iill rearrage my idols

ok lemme cook ill send update

[flint turret]

dw i just wanted to see your general idea for dancing again

[sage canyon]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/77h9k0g9#1

ook

[flint turret]

also i think t7 multi on an amulet is an overkill

[sage canyon]

huge

actually great upgrade ty

pot is like 2k hp right on lvl 100

[flint turret]

1k

[sage canyon]

stilll great with noman ring combo

if stunned

also the stonefists are so fckn good

perma stun uber with budget gear xddd

[flint turret]

also why are you getting shred blessing

cant you just max it in sync

[sage canyon]

im not capping it

i need to test with maxxed out node

does it cap 10 stacks?

[flint turret]

yeah i think it does

on big targets that is

[sage canyon]

okk ill double check at home would be great too

maybe get more hp or phys res

hmm

[flint turret]

now that i think about it

[potent arrow]

im currently using this abomination

[flint turret]

i might want to have +2 sync on helm

[sage canyon]

nooooo

i dont think its ever worth

sync strike will only give you more attack speed

🤔

[potent arrow]

its almost 600 ward tho

[sage canyon]

is there anything else there?

[flint turret]

well, i want attack speed because i dont have flow

[sage canyon]

ahh right

lol

ill also test if i can didtch that stupid idol 1x4

if yes i can go full 2x1 idols and thats absurd dps

[flint turret]

they dont exist on cof

the best i can manage

[sage canyon]

i never liked it

trash idol

full 2x1 is GIGACHAD setup

max dps no regrets

[flint turret]

MG* setup

[sage canyon]

true

kekw

but dont we have 2x1 propfcies

[flint turret]

we do

[sage canyon]

🤔

too much rng?

[potent arrow]

if u grab the nodes that give another 4% crit to cscade u only need 36% character sheet crit chance to crit cap right? for maybe using a somnia

[sage canyon]

dps? wdym

[potent arrow]

mistyped meant character sheet crit chance

[lapis pumice]

any way to copy paste idols on letools planner ?

[sage canyon]

firstly never grab those nodes please q.q

[lapis pumice]

or do i have to manually do each of them

[sage canyon]

if u grab those nodes ull have 14% base crit if you dont have any weapons at all ull need around 600% inc crit chance to cap crit

[flint turret]

weaver prophesies are quite expensive and getting those pen+flat combo is really rare. the issue is if you get flat suffix, it already means that the only good prefix is basically pen, while in case of res they are already usefull even with 1 suffix

[sage canyon]

hmm well if they are hard maybe go 2 mana eff idols and then you can go double dmg on helmet

[flint turret]

yeah i have some

too bad eleres suffix is super rare

[sage canyon]

also the other thing i need to check if attack speed slam worth on TT

cause pen might be better

but i doubt

pretty good one

[flint turret]

nah, if you runn full 2x1 idols thats not the case im pretty sure

[sage canyon]

yee my thoughts and u have shred stacks

[flint turret]

dam how do i get attack speed on sync i cant drop crimsons or shred

[sage canyon]

?

im thinking this

10% is still good

[flint turret]

1s for crimson is too low no?

[sage canyon]

maybe hmm

[potent arrow]

not running +4 skills?

[flint turret]

shadow infusin actually looks pretty good too

[sage canyon]

but if you dont go flow cant you take on passives

[flint turret]

25 ward per shadow per point

thats basically t7 for 4 points

[sage canyon]

yee i wish those nodes would give aoe to cascade xdddd

[flint turret]

im trying to have some dodge so im invested in MM

whoops forgot about 5 falcoenr nodes

[sage canyon]

i did too

and thats with 5 into falcon and 27 into mm

[flint turret]

im stacking perfection

maybe not worth

but im trying to build dodge

[sage canyon]

is it good? i tested and it was kinda dogshit hahaha

but i didnt have 200% dodge chance from dancing at that time i might try now

[flint turret]

ill probably slam t7 dodge on amulet

ideally t5 on reen

[sage canyon]

perfection is good only for armor right

[flint turret]

its flat dodge

[sage canyon]

i dont think it buffs dmg that much

[flint turret]

yeah its not for damage

[rugged pollen]

perfection kinda ass if you ask me

uptime is very ehh

[flint turret]

its decent

but can live without it for sure

jesus christ

[frail bison]

interesting

[potent arrow]

big, gl on getting the perfect slam exalt

[flint turret]

im never slamming it

too high lp to be considered obtainable

[frail bison]

that ring kinda trash imo idk

[flint turret]

[frail bison]

it's alright on a budget but it excels at nothing

nah fr

[lapis pumice]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGWgN54B @flint turret settled for this for the hydra build

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (14) / Falconer (59)

General:

▸ Health: 3,123, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 176.51, Regen: 29.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 36%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 159 Dex / 18 Int / 18 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 67% / 44% / 97% / 69% / 82% / 100% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 625
▸ Dodge Chance: 32% (1122)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,433)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Ballista / Explosive Trap

[flint turret]

okay this makes sense

[lapis pumice]

i'm not sure if another 2x2 crit multi idol is better than throne ?

or what are you guys thoughts overall

[frail bison]

wdym

[flint turret]

first message in rogue 4 days ago

[zenith bridge]

so far my favorite defensive setup is smoke weaver + apostacy, dont need to spend all the points into mm for flat dodge. Also to keep perfection stacks up, only needed to adjust the playstyle a bit. Works out fine in higher corruption. Eye of reen bossing is probably non apostacy setup.

[lapis pumice]

mourning frost is too good to pass tbh, even loosing 32% cdr on evade it just doubles the dps

[frail bison]

you're funny if you think I'm new to this just cause i don't post here lol

[flint turret]

cant bring myself to play with apostacy yuck

[zenith bridge]

its easy cap with smoke weaver, so i kinda like it with low life

i survive more often compared to non apostacy

[frail bison]

but you can enlighten me and let me know why it's better than a red ring defensively or a stardial offensively

[flint turret]

i think you are pretty now to rogue othervise you've had some experience with LL setups to know nomad is cracked

thats why i said makes sense

[frail bison]

explain why then

[flint turret]

after being hit for 20k non crit at 600 corr by orobyss im not feeling like playing non dodge rn

maybe when they fix teh scaling bug

[flint turret]

lots of res and hp

[frail bison]

ok so how is that better than a red ring

literally even more res and DR

[flint turret]

it doesnt have dr wityhout 180 stat

[frail bison]

it's true but it does still have more res

[flint turret]

and rr will get you 1lp max usually

[frail bison]

and some other stats

[flint turret]

some other = what? we dont need stats

[frail bison]

iuno i mean it's not a bad ring but it's just never something i would see as BiS

[flint turret]

dodge is okay i guess

[frail bison]

depends on your build but you have mana regen dodge armor attributes movement speed (best stat in the game btw)

jack of all trades, a better one than nomad imo

[flint turret]

if you say so

[frail bison]

🤷‍♀️

[flint turret]

play LL next maybe you'll understand

[frail bison]

i did

[flint turret]

or not, up to you

[frail bison]

still very funny that you'd think I'm new just cus i dont post in a specific channel in a discord

but hey whatever floats your boat

[flint turret]

we can discuss your LL setup with RRs if you want to

maybe ill see how RRs are wastly superior

i have seen a couple and it was fine, but getting 180 stats is pure pain and not getting it means rr is pointless

also double rr means no siphon

which means oro boots

[frail bison]

i mean tbf like i dont really focus on defense on my builds so my view of the game will be biased

[flint turret]

which means no flay boots

[frail bison]

im not a RR glazer im a stardial glazer for the most part

i like to kill uber in 40s so this ring just looks super mid to me

but if you play non meta builds and actually need to build defense for monos

i get it

that's just not the type of builds i play

[flint turret]

calling cascade non meta is pretty wild ngl

[frail bison]

i didnt? i dont have an opinion on it

Im talking about the ring in a vacuum who even said cascade

[flint turret]

this is getting nowhere i guess

but i think we can agree to both that RR is a best generic ring but but the best in all scenarios

[atomic vapor]

This is a silly argument given how you're both really good players

Just my two cents

[eager mason]

what umbral

[flint turret]

last season one probably

unless...?

falconer players smh

[rugged pollen]

you might want to take a look at the patchnote

things are a little bit different now

[flint turret]

if you are talking about imprinting its still as op as ever

[rugged pollen]

btw i thought with all the krafton money maybe the game will be more clean

how can they mess up things like corruption dam scaling

and woven echoes spawning

[flint turret]

whe only relevant drama is the hidden enemy scaling which is apparently not a part of a corr rescaling but a bug, and devs failing entirely on communicating this to a community

[potent arrow]

i just died to a 5500 auto attack in Fading Brick echo wut

[rugged pollen]

rampant coast are rare echo but spawn like crazy when imprinted

[flint turret]

who cares about reddit bro

[sage canyon]

blade dancers cant use either cause stacking stats is inefficient and julra is useless cause ring affixes dont do anything for us

i can see using red rings maybe with uber relic+mountain chest setup and 2lp big gear

[flint turret]

its planend later for a week in 1.3.1 afaik

[frail bison]

funny to say that to the person with the fastest recorded uberroth kill in the game but ok

[lapis pumice]

yeah all the new beast echoes have crazy spawn

legit 1 every other map

[flint turret]

i wouldnt say so, drops like crazy still

[rugged pollen]

t7 throw cost on julra ring prob the best thing you could ever get for flask build

[potent arrow]

there were timerot sentinels that killed it as it spawned

[frail bison]

it's alright man it's all love like i aint refuting that the ring can't be BiS for a particular build, i just don't like the ring at all so it sounds sad to me

just personal taste

[eager mason]

I have the rings on mapping planner

[frail bison]

is 25s longer than 2s though?

[eager mason]

but yeah with uber relic

[sage canyon]

with uber sure, but nomades are cracked as hell with 3-4lp tons of value

especially now with speed buffs u really need mana regen

at least 2t7 on dancing strikes setup

[frail bison]

https://youtu.be/AklfRh302k0
I dont like to self plug but you're asking

falconer also had one shots with ub

25s is not the fastest for ub I've seen 2-3 sec kills

but yeah that's been nerfed

rofl thank you

[sage canyon]

also what do u think on uber relic+mega crit amulet? i think its kinda not worth especially with dancing cause we have so much crit multi and losing lvls is paingee

[eager mason]

yeah I dont really like that amulet

[flint turret]

do you guys think its better to use dancing on uber or no

i see upsides for both

but im still quite fa from it anyway

[terse bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KFfR6nVWH0

[flint turret]

all res and avoidance max roll at the same time kekw

[valid jacinth]

I've been following your videos with UB! I'm playing CoF though so can't buy your gear, do you have any tips for surviving empowered monos?

[sage canyon]

i personally think its just too much dmg even tho its not alwasy uptime, but with uber it allows you to prestack DS on immunity phase and burst him with some luck

[flint turret]

thats valid

[flint turret]

do you even need t7 cdr for it? it can be t7 hybrid right?

you dont need shift as much

its just mana

[sage canyon]

i take cdr for sync strike

not for ds

[flint turret]

wait what

[sage canyon]

its 1 sec cd

🤔

u can make it 0,5

[eager mason]

basically one is easier to use other is more damage

[flint turret]

double cdr for this?

[eager mason]

so your choice

[sage canyon]

ya

hahah

😅

its double dmg

[flint turret]

thats wild to me ngl

[sage canyon]

ye smoke bomb is easier, im actually testing with less dodge distance on DS its much comfier cause you dont jump all over the place

[rugged pollen]

there's 2 bottleneck on your dps with ds cascade

mana and sync cooldown

once you solved mana

[sage canyon]

yep

[rugged pollen]

sync cooldown becomes very relevant

[sage canyon]

if mana good cdr is crazyvalue

gimme second

[rugged pollen]

usually it's overlooked becuase well mana isnt solved yet

[flint turret]

makes sense

[sage canyon]

1t5=0.83 cd=20% more dmg
2t5=0.7=42% more
2t7=0.6=60% more

[rugged pollen]

oh it's with any sync cacscade, not just ds

[sage canyon]

yep well with speed scaling its irrleivant on ds now

but still nice ig

if i could go cdr on rings i would

lol

[flint turret]

okay from the looks of it i need a crapton more of mana gen first

[sage canyon]

ye hahaha

go 2 idols+regen

ez

[rugged pollen]

if you dont like ds just go flurry

ez mana gen

[sage canyon]

naah i think its not worth smoke bomb is so op and mana is good without ds

🤔

[flint turret]

smoke gives mana too

[sage canyon]

especially if u abuse snapshot with shadows

ye

[eager mason]

CAUGHT

[flint turret]

wdym abuse

legit mechanic

[sage canyon]

kekw

veteran of LE bugs

[flint turret]

they even fixed sync double hitting

and left cascade

[sage canyon]

KEKW

[flint turret]

fixing sync was totally unexpected by me

i didnt even tested it deliberatly this season

i noticed it just from trikster video

when i investigated leech issue with peak

and then it all made sense why i felt sync does dogshit damage on my sd

i thougt it was a part of a scaling issue

[rugged pollen]

the scaling issue is only about mob damage

not health