🔪┃rogue

[sage canyon]

tyty, no they giga buffed nado shaman cause you can go frenzy helmet that essentually 100% more mana regen with sustain, so you can cast way more tornados now

[eager mason]

on rogue acid flask

[pine hatch]

OMG

[sage canyon]

nado shaman is like 2ce stronger now imo

[stable nacelle]

fr now i build wrong build because maxroll says balista

[sage canyon]

nado bear buffed also but way less, you just get more dmg/tankiness with primoridals

nothing crazy

[eager mason]

ballista should be fine too

havent played it so idk how early it can kill it

[sage canyon]

it doesnt tho

pretty sure volca upadated

oh he didnt

[stable nacelle]

ohh

should i still switch to acid flask im lvl 82

[kind atlas]

does bees work with pale ox?

[sage canyon]

ye he didnt -_-

acid flask is op

[sage canyon]

yes

[rigid umbra]

Bruh

Where my bleed HS
players at

[cloud plover]

So you think the new gloves are better than the new crit ammy? I see a lot of builds running the ammy at the moment. Although that might just be because people haven't dropped the glvoes yet.

[sage canyon]

ye crit HS is just shit imo nobody can change my mind q.q

such low dmg

[cloud plover]

Just dropped the gloves so wanted to check if it's worth switching to 😛

[sage canyon]

like try playing acid flask with 100 mil dps and then crit HS with 12 xddd

see the difference

[pine hatch]

@sage canyon I have been playing RM with the new Blue feather ring. It's so good but RM is very weak in defence now compare to other classes

[sage canyon]

oooh whats the skill?

i found couple cases of ring abuse, mainly on acolyte

[pine hatch]

Tried FC and VO

[stable nacelle]

would you still swap your build to acid flask if u were lvl 82 still?

i have no idea im noob

[pine hatch]

Frostbite VO

[sage canyon]

i mean if you have issues with what you are playing now sure

overall acid flask is easily top rogue and overall game build

[stable nacelle]

i dont like the fact that i put my ballistas and run away from loot

[sage canyon]

i think the crit sorc VO is just so much better especially this patch that thing is immortal with new wand

you get almost 100% uptime of flame ward

and it was already unkillable

[stable nacelle]

you got a good profile i can copy?

[eager mason]

did you help with falconer acid

[pine hatch]

How 100%

[sage canyon]

just go maxroll my build is there, potato also has good planners on his YT

[pine hatch]

Sorry guys I know it's wrong channel

[stable nacelle]

okay ty

[pine hatch]

But how it's 100%

[sage canyon]

cdr stacking and wand procs 2 times per 16 sec+ manual cast

[pine hatch]

I haven't tested it yet

[sage canyon]

its almost 100%

but its rng

cause 50% to proc on evade/teleport

[stable nacelle]

is it normal that cleaver 2lp with max rolls is only 1kk on market, is merchant guild dead

[pine hatch]

Oic manual cast

[sage canyon]

ye

[rugged pollen]

The proced flameward is not counted toward cooldown

[pine hatch]

Shet man I'm dumb

[sage canyon]

sht so broken

[pine hatch]

O right gotta work to do now

[sage canyon]

and glacier as mana generator+seed helmet

and VO as giga single target

[pine hatch]

Yeh tried crit vs frostbite

Frostbite wins

[stable nacelle]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/acid-flask-rogue-guide this one has a marksman acid flask and falconer, which should i take?

[pine hatch]

I think

[sage canyon]

frostbite cant abuse glacier mana generation xddd so no seed for u

[sage canyon]

falconer is only with good gear, marksman on start

[stable nacelle]

ok ty

but falconer overall better endgame then?

[sage canyon]

yes

[stable nacelle]

aight

[pine hatch]

Well I'm trying to abuse dodge chance on Heo runes so it's gotta be cold anyway gonna try out that flame ward shet see if I can become unkillable

[sage canyon]

if u doing arena people pushed 1600+ with fire bs hydrahedroen or whatever its called, also brand of deception palsma orb would be even better arena build imo

cause you can abuse focus

[pine hatch]

Well with snap shot

Right? Frostwall snap shot still works?

[atomic vapor]

It got fixed

[pine hatch]

Ok

Thanks

So the DMG should be alot less now

It won't kill everything as fast as before

Therefore U can't stay alive that easy now

[halcyon bone]

Maybe I overlooked an explanation on the guide, but what happens if you choose both "convert base dmg to different element and convert armor shred to elemt shred?

Like phys to light
And phys to cold.
?

[cloud plover]

Yep, glove explosion is definitely bugged as you described.

[wet ginkgo]

Is ballista falconer much worse than acid flask marksman ?

[sage canyon]

F

[sage canyon]

idk they are very similar, i think flask has more tank potential, otherwise they are basically same

[flint turret]

But I liked crit hs

[sage canyon]

pepehands

[flint turret]

I think it can be pretty good now with new crit body and soulgambler

[sage canyon]

D tier build, idk like it looks cool but it was such a bait in s2, everyone were hyped abt it when every other MM build is literally better

[flint turret]

Damage is not that great considering the builds you usually play tho that's true

[sage canyon]

yee it needs like 70% more dmg at least

[flint turret]

Or others need less

We just needed a good new bow

And a source of bow flat damage other than mourningfrost

Or a general buff to bow stats. They roll affixes so low smh

I don't really understand why bows should have less stats than a 1-hand weapon

[cloud plover]

If the new bow wasn't primal and didn't lock you out of the other new items it'd be pretty good with it's high bow damage bonuses

[flint turret]

It would be okay-ish yeah

Icicles on row is like 1/3 of the DPS tho

got 2lp razorfall befor 0lp tongue while putting ll favor into daggers

[open comet]

idk man this season feels weak compared to last season

[flint turret]

last season took more than double amount of time to develop

[sage canyon]

need a bow with 20% recurve chance per strength

[flint turret]

i hate that there is no single source of phys bow flat tbh

[sage canyon]

oor a bow that makes HS split on use for every 20 dex MONKA

[flint turret]

even the stupid ll quiver gives void

[sage canyon]

u have drelkor

[flint turret]

yeah but thats like 100 flat in total and tahts it

and you need t7 flat crit on any bow

and even id you get t7 flat damage its only up to 49 on bow

which is absurdly low

[flint turret]

whats the best way to get experimental ward gloves affix btw? woven echo for any t7 suffix gloives and havoc?

[sage canyon]

yess havoc ftw ideally prepare it with same tier affixes to increase chances

[crimson latch]

im so sad

my runes bugged, did like 15proph and my havocs stay the same even i picked like 20

[open comet]

What marksman builds going strong this season ? Bleed Heartseeker ?

[potent arrow]

why do none of the cascade builds take the new primordial dagger?
Ah guess the primordial chest is just better and limited to 1 primordial

[crimson latch]

HoA maybe, im building crit cold truesight and melting at 400c but im too squishy

[open comet]

HoA ?

Oh

Hail of arrows

[sage canyon]

@pine hatch do bees work with pale of the ox? they should right?

🤔

[pine hatch]

Ok so I failed slammed 4-5 3lps last season

I didn't actually tried them

I was upset but I think it works

[cloud plover]

Please help... Does heartseeker Black Arrow spawning consume the DarkQuiver amount of mana for every spawned arrow? I am running out of mana right now and I really can't figure out why if this isn't it

[crimson latch]

do you have increased dmg and mana cost tree node?

[pine hatch]

Also I'm looking at the new astral blood now it work well with bloody nib because it doesn't have immunity with bleed

[cloud plover]

If you mean in the passive tree, no.

[crimson latch]

its only me? its not UI BUG because i relog and still the same

lost all my proph t_t

[wary cedar]

whats the most broken build for farming monoliths where i dont need to look at my monitor so i can watch netflix?

[potent arrow]

did they take out the "choose one affix" with the eternity cache?

seems its from t2 difficulty onwards, forgot about that part

[flint turret]

can someone remind me how corr climbing works? whats the condition of the orobyss spawn right at the start of the mono tree?

i remember i used to jump from empowered to empowered and it was there for me to ramp up corr but now i dont see it

[mortal valley]

is there anything in the game that lets you evade more often?

the only things ik of change your evade to smth else

tho ig hydra arc still works with those?

[potent arrow]

think it was 4 or 8 gazes of orobyss Ragulol

but u gotta clear 1 echo for it to appear

[terse bloom]

10+ gaze and kill first echo

[rugged pollen]

i dont think you need 10+ gaze

i'm on zero gaze and it still spawn

[flint turret]

yeah im pretty sure i couldt have 10 gaze when i first entered empowereds

[rugged pollen]

i think your highest corr must be at least +50 higher than the current one

for it to spwan

[flint turret]

ah

okay ty

[potent arrow]

the gazes is for climbing corruption within the same mono not between

[flint turret]

it worked between for sure

i just domt know the conditions

[rugged pollen]

i dont think numbers of gaze has anything to do here

for sure i entered new timeline with zero gazes and it spaw

[gray wing]

Hi everyone, i use hertseeker, recurva 100%, but puncture doesn't work every time, about 1/10 works, what the hell?

nerfed or bug?

[cloud plover]

What is considered a "Bow Hit" is a Recurve from Heartseeker also a "Bow Hit" or is that only the initial hit.

[lyric stag]

what build is this ?

[crimson latch]

cold crit heartseeker with truesight

[lyric stag]

ok thanks

[terse bloom]

nb

t8 cdr is 45-50

only one up for 1.1

[gray wing]

does your puncture trigger when each mob dies?

[crimson latch]

Yes

[gray wing]

I don't have it, and I went to check on a character who remained in the old league, and there, for some reason, it doesn't work every time

[crimson latch]

show me your HS skill tree

[flint turret]

dam did they nerf hearts farm from champion beasts? im not gettin any today

[potent arrow]

that the woven echo one? seems fairly lackluster imo

[flint turret]

yeah the woven one

i was getting 1 heart almost every time yesterday

now im getting none at all

[potent arrow]

damn i got like 3 hearts in total from drops and i had a shit ton of em in my echo's (lvl 90 now)

think u got lucky

[flint turret]

okay that echo still works hot anothee one

i had maybe like 10 but im gatekept by bones anyway

[potent arrow]

i had to buy a heart to get an item thats how poor my luck was

Bloodline Glade or Nesting Grove just to be sure were talking about the same one

[flint turret]

imprint bloodline

it triggers like crazy

you wont have to buy hears but you wil lack bones for items anyway

[potent arrow]

yeh thats what im on as well

imprinted and its like 40% of the echo's lmao

[flint turret]

yeah

too bad it only drops champion primos

but getting hearts is nice

[potent arrow]

what do i want on my LL cascade primordial unique chest? dmg with cascade, ward per shadow, efficiency with sync, % hp? its 1lp chest

[rugged pollen]

cascade dam per shadow

[potent arrow]

think ward per shadow, dying so much

[rugged pollen]

than health%

[potent arrow]

kinda wanted to do this build that just spams sync strike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVpuBft9qg but i need more gear for that one

[rugged pollen]

dont follow that guy, 100% clickbait with unreasonable gears

all of his video are offline modded

[flint turret]

ill go with cascade levels

[potent arrow]

are there anymore good nodes to pcik? using traitor and the +2 skill level neck

[flint turret]

each point in cascade is AT LEAST 35% phys damage on top of melee bonus

[potent arrow]

ah wait the carnage is good

[flint turret]

carnage is meh

[potent arrow]

going into dagger dance?

[flint turret]

28 points dunno how to get ot without +4 on chest and i dont feel like cutting anything

if you get even more points can go into shadow flourish

[potent arrow]

doesnt the shadow on kill mess with the 4 shadows?

[flint turret]

if you snapshot it than no

and its free mana anyway

and free damage

[potent arrow]

ah you never manually cast cascade?

except to snapshot

[flint turret]

can be played differently

can use dancing to trigger snapshotted cascade always

when shift is on cd

[potent arrow]

yeah dont like the dancing strike so i just kinda press cascade after a sync strike

[flint turret]

well even if you go without it you still can put points into shadow flourish

[potent arrow]

maybe it wont mess with mine cause im on 4 shadows max anyway and i never press cascade without a syncstrike

[flint turret]

fianlly

[potent arrow]

im on 28 points right now cause im using the primordial dagger untill i fix my chest and its pretty nice having that many levels

(also thought i could wear em both 🙁 )

[flint turret]

pog

when you farm for them with double reroll and 200 corr you get shit rolls, if you do it below 200 and no rerolls its max smh

[potent arrow]

now that we gotta go boulderfist cause of leech issues with the mountain helmet, can we just skip the mountain helmet?

[halcyon bone]

just go butchers crown and pray

[zenith bridge]

Gz. I want the baby with 2lp for inc health

Currently also with 1lp inc dmg per shadow

Double t7 cdr feels so good on cascade rotation

[flint turret]

How do you guys live without+4 cascade smh

It's so point hungry

[wispy kayak]

what build is that for

[flint turret]

Ll cascade

[wispy kayak]

is it OP?

[flint turret]

Close to I'd say

[zenith bridge]

Well its doing enough dmg for me:)

But yea having extra level is always nice. That skilltree is so insane for dmg multipliers

[flint turret]

Also crazy qol like inc aoe + spawn shadows

[zenith bridge]

Ragu let me know if you need boulder to stay in LL. For whatever reason i leeched hp even though i was crit capped with peak

Yea that extra aoe node is beautiful

[flint turret]

Yeah I haven't transition yet I'm being pretty slow

[zenith bridge]

I updated my planner already

But there has to be some bug with leech

[flint turret]

I got my first tongue only today at lvl 8 cof while dishing all favor and ascendance into daggers

[zenith bridge]

Because it works for Potato

[flint turret]

I'll try to investigate this issue when I get to ll

[zenith bridge]

Currently im speedfarming with smoke weaver and have eye of reen rdy for bosses

Dmg inc with reen is insane

I would love to play the new dagger

But ll body armour is too good

[flint turret]

Yeah I'm glad they reverted that on-trigger restrictions nonsense for reen

[zenith bridge]

And those flat melee/phys pen weaver idols are nuts

I bought them all from MG just to be save 🤣

[flint turret]

Id prefer to avoid using boulder I want weaver ideally

Yeah I don't expect to get many if at all on cof

[zenith bridge]

Yea i also dont wanna have boulder but its not too bad. Flat hp, armour. Easy to get with lp

I kinda hate falcon fist

Only melee attack speed, but its a good stat and we dont need endurance

[flint turret]

I'd be pretty happy with huge ones for inc damage rper shadow and ward on shadow gen

[flint turret]

I wanna weaver with hybrid and shred but that highly unlikely

Falcon is fine too I guess it will allow more health to ward

Not sure which route I wanna go more active ward for shadow creation or more passive one

I also want to drink potions

[wispy kayak]

not sure i can do this ZHP build lol. randomly getting 1 shot on lowest mono tier

gear reqs are too obscene to enjoy without all uniques and most with LP

always oom, low dmg, low survival.

[jaunty glen]

What should I play if I don't wanna go Falconer again

Shadow Cascade BD sounds interesting but the guide on MR isn't up for it yet

[potent arrow]

do i just buy more LL primordial chest armors?

[upper talon]

is there any new build for bladedancer?

[toxic swift]

I was eyeing this item for my SC BD, but haven't had a chance to play the patch yet as I've been on vacation. My assumption was that this item would free us from using the boots and glove slots for low life. Is that correct?

[flint turret]

i still intend to use gloves with 20% ward experimental

but boots yeag im using new ones for more damage

[toxic swift]

the flay ones? I was eyeing those as well

[flint turret]

yes

[toxic swift]

I was thinking that the chest might cap your ward on its own, does it not?

or are the gloves just for faster regen?

[rugged pollen]

the chest alone won't cap you

but bring it pretty close

[toxic swift]

cool, thanks

[rugged pollen]

you need another slot

[toxic swift]

I won't get to play until September lol

[rugged pollen]

if say you get t7 exp ward on gloves, you for sure dont need anything more

[toxic swift]

Sick, I already use immortal vise with T7 exp ward

[rugged pollen]

ì dont think using exp ward is a good idea tho

health will provide more ward

well in a perfect world you'd want to get both but you know

[toxic swift]

I honestly probably don't need it since I'm doing potion chug 100% converted to ward

I honestly might go for AS just for greedy damage lol

A potion gives me a burst of ~1k ward

I only wish that the elecoe belt had more potion slots

Forced to use jungle queen

[rugged pollen]

you can use bucklebelt too

[flint turret]

nooooo

[rugged pollen]

i tried it with hybrd health ward setup and it's very nice

[toxic swift]

nah I'm too reliant on potions for the shift CD reset

[rugged pollen]

but the whole setup is kinda awkward to build

[rugged pollen]

and i do exactly that too

you're not the only one

[toxic swift]

I guess I just prefer the extra potions then lol

[rugged pollen]

you can almost spam as much as you do using buckle compared to jq

[toxic swift]

I kinda hate how loaded the belt slot is for potion affixes

[rugged pollen]

but it's much harder to find 3+ lp buckle

also you better return to the game real quick if you dont wanna see all the good exalted for JQ slam getting snatched

i'm for sure sniping every single one of those i can get my hands on

[toxic swift]

I play legacy CoF, so go for it haha

[crimson latch]

rate the build for 1 to 10 :p

[hybrid marsh]

@zenith bridge what are the two points in smokebomb skill tree that can be sacrificed? I want to use smokebomb as traversal to double up the speed for speed farming, ill revert the points back for pushing

[zenith bridge]

for SC?

[hybrid marsh]

yes

[zenith bridge]

1 point thick smoke, 1 point rapid concealement

[hybrid marsh]

thank you sir

[potent arrow]

i believe skills with the traversal tag share cooldown

[hybrid marsh]

actually never knew that

[flint turret]

pog

thought about 2lp evolution vs 1lp nihilis for cascade? is frenzy worth ward loss on dodge over extra 1lp?

nihilis has also mana regen tho

for anyone interested in bone farming - dont evolve new beast at all, just end the lineage immidiatly every time. this wasy you will guarantee every beast encounter as a bonus leven instead of a beast invasion, and it also has pretty good chance to drop a heart every time

[frail bison]

takes longer to run a level than to kill 1 mob though so im not sure what is the better ratio for bones per time spent

[flint turret]

im getting 2k+ bones per lvl

at 180 corr

[hybrid marsh]

I just pick bones reward for evolution

[flint turret]

same

if i get horns first

[oak summit]

well messing around has gotten me to like Smoke Bomb

didnt realize it goesa as far as it does when you turn it into a traversal skill

[marble narwhal]

what are u guys playing as a rogue? shadow bladedancer is too much piano :\

[pastel timber]

Any HS enjoyer playing with the primordial dodge body armor ?

[trim dawn]

who got a decent falconer loot filter

ive been playing loot filterless and boy is it ba

bad

[crimson latch]

i made a meta "filter" xd with the maxroll, put 1 set of every class i want to play and then made the filter with the tool

[rare gull]

how is acid flask feeling to play? i can't find good gameplay vids of it this season

[frail bison]

same as always

underrated and broken

[maiden vault]

hello, what exactly am i missing for unlocking Aerial Assault? I have already spent over 30 points in Flaconer yet the skill is still locked

[eager mason]

you need to be a falconer

to get the skills after the mid point

[maiden vault]

that... makes perfect sense xd

thank you

[trim dawn]

chat is this good

[pearl forge]

im going to try all dots to ignite with new gloves

[cosmic briar]

huh 1 season early

[pearl forge]

but it will take a bit

[cosmic briar]

was POG as hell

ahahahah

[clever gulch]

will uber aberoth scale against corruption?

[cosmic briar]

no

but he is so much scaled already that he ddnt need that

@flint turret also now i really interested what was the reason to nerf dive bomb cos build i playing currently have a way more damage than DB falconer lmao

[clever gulch]

thx

[brisk lantern]

With Ballista we are basically just dropping smoke bomb so we can stand in it and buff ourselves, which in turn buffs the Ballista?

[flint turret]

They don't nerf something just when it's op. It's only when it's op+too much players play it simultaneously

Dive was the main build everyone was doing Uber with. They nerfed it, everyone swapped to umbrals

[pearl forge]

wait a second

[trim dawn]

chat does exposed weakness work yet

[solid umbra]

you will get tons of them anyways

[flint turret]

it always did afaik

but only on direct attacks as it says

[trim dawn]

this part ive always had an issue with just because its inconsistent as hell

This also says "when you kill an enemy" but falcon kills count

so is my falcon part of me or not

because this also says "when you" but doesnt count

[flint turret]

yeah you just go inheritance with t7 multi nowadays

[crimson latch]

the nest woven echo has chance for rift beast to drop priomordial items?

[pearl forge]

what would you slam for ignite on wep elemental dot?

guess on rings and neck i would

[solemn mulch]

any way to make bleed heartseeker work or at a certain corruption just better to switch to fire or something?

[cosmic briar]

well shadow stacking was too OP as hell its obvious, but i cant say same for DB

just in case i here have something around 50m DPS with 1/2lp gear

DB wasnt same

[cosmic briar]

not chance, they are drop and pretty often. Problem is 99.999% of those items are shit

999 from 1000 items will be minion damage+teleport and additional companions

[flint turret]

I'm pretty sure db can still deal some decent damage just needs some adjustments. I was thinking about going back to mourningfrost valor to stack avian arsenal which would result in 650 flat damage on falcon

Or using new bleed gloves and stun chance for db

Needs testing, probably someone will eventually

[cosmic briar]

dk really, this werebear shit is just OP

and feels even more OP than falconer tbh

if ill wanna push corruption i think it can climb to several thousands even w/o gigachad items even

[wraith nacelle]

Not multi lp but pretty happy with this for early season

[pearl forge]

oh boi i didnt know this

the champion mod can be t8 and gives +2 max shadows

damn just when i wanted to use the ignite gloves to do a build

wont have time to do both

because of poe2 xd

[trim dawn]

someone remind me

does this count as a 2lp for imprint purposes

[clever gulch]

Shouldn't the ballistae attack the spires?

[solid umbra]

i do not think it ever did, are you thinking of the "divining" thing ?

[solid umbra]

after killing a 100 .... only the 2 gloves

if you talking about primordial uniques

[restive ore]

Does bladed armour work with chakram? does it give me armour based on how many shurikens i would have like keen throw?

[oak summit]

hello low-life lightning chakram and whatever else enjoyer

finally trying to put that together myself ;-;

i at least have an LP2 Fulgurite Shard

and a few TTs but none are LP2

[lusty wagon]

damn

if i take prophetie at lvl 11 COF th effect lvl 12 actualise or i wait for use my currency at lvl 12 ?

[crimson latch]

!!!!

[restive ore]

nice

[oak summit]

nice

[lusty wagon]

OMGGG

[fiery osprey]

anyone playing ballista falcone ??

[trim dawn]

lmao nope, the egg gave it that

but anyway, bought my primordial item, egg gave it 2 useless affixes

done with elague

[oak summit]

ah

[shell siren]

Playing as umbral blades falcon to level up but want to move to a new build im thinking about rainbow damage heartseeker with the hydra bow

however im struggling at 62 in mono's and cant find upgrades

ideas? I have a judgement pally but that wont level my rogue up

[lusty wagon]

hmm

[ashen lance]

Do someone know what primordial item could i use on Multishot marksman?

[thin quartz]

crit multishot? crit ammy

[eager mason]

probably the relic

or t8 multishot affix

[ashen lance]

On maxroll there is no primordial item so probably none of this fits multishot build i guess

I checked myself stats of each item and as before, none fits it

[eager mason]

looks more like you already made up your mind before asking and asked for no reason

[ashen lance]

No. I asked because i know myself and sometimes i dont see most obvious answers

[wild harbor]

without explosive trap?

[haughty veldt]

where do i find him&

?

[flint turret]

Him = whom? The harbinger? At a different timeline at higher corr

Each timeline has its own

[haughty veldt]

how do i get more corruption?

[flint turret]

You need to kill orobyss shade that spawns away from the center. If you have killed timeline boss it drops gaze, which will be consumed(up to 4) when you kill orobyss to give a further boost to corruption

Do this only in lvl 100 monos(empowered)

[haughty veldt]

so i just push monos?

[zenith bridge]

Lizard added a t8 inc dmg per arrow in the aspirational planner

[flint turret]

Pretty much

[flint turret]

Tbh champion primo affixes are so easy to get now, they are more accessible than actual primo uniques. Bloodline mono spawns from imprinting like crazy and drops tons of them

I farmed only a couple and got like 5+ gloves with +2 shadows. And they always drop with exalted non primo affix too

Pierce with multishot not worth it?

[eager mason]

do you need 5 pierce tho

and I think problem with that skill is more in terms of damage rn

so would rather get the multishot affix

[flint turret]

Dunno, never played it but sounds like a good qol. And easy to get early

Wanting more damage for bosses makes perfect sense too tho

[rotund plover]

whats with these fire blast bugs

its like green beams all over again

[frail bison]

no

[flint turret]

They are nasty but I find new flying small mantis with charge deadlier. The pack charges at you from the border of the screen and you are dead instantly

Wonder who thought this was a great idea

[rotund plover]

probably the same psycho who made the green deathbeams

[tacit mist]

hello chat

I'm playing Maxroll's (LizardIRL's) Hail of Arrows build, but I'm looking for gear alternatives for gloves slot as it has Ravenous Void which is even more rare than a Red Ring...

Any suggestions on what would be good ?

[flint turret]

Charge has even more range than deathbeam, but at least these monsters are rare

[tacit mist]

I will have to preface it with saying that I'm planning on using the Hydra Arc Primordial bow, so any of those items for this slot will not be a thing

[flint turret]

Is it fire?

[tacit mist]

yes, currently it is

[flint turret]

Hand of judgement can be decent I guess

Burning avarice

Riverbend if you have lots of dodge

[tacit mist]

Took a look at all of those and it seems Hand of Judgment seem best as a easy to find alternative

especially if I get ones with 1-2 LP and slap some thick dex onto them

[flint turret]

3lp is pretty reasonable too

[tacit mist]

I'm still in the basic monos, so finding 3 LP would probably be difficult

as my CoF is still low lvl as well

[flint turret]

yeah okay i got to the bottom of it its not a bug

its leech from doom dot overtime

peak cant prevent it

because dots dont crit

so its either siphon with boulder or no siphon

[wild harbor]

F

[zenith bridge]

thats what i thought aswell. was just wondering how crazy the leech for it is, didnt expect it to do so much dmg

[wild harbor]

we need stronger passives like that one passive on ele nova

where like you get a bigger boost for not using trigger mechanics than when you do

[flint turret]

tbh its not that much, probably should be even les in monos

my doom stacks tick arounf 330 dmg on a dummy each

[atomic vapor]

Wait until you push a little and you'll see the good stuff drop like candy. It's not the uniques that are the problem, it's hitting the slam

[flint turret]

minrolled void leech siphon should be leeching that much

[atomic vapor]

(season 2 ragu )

[cloud plover]

What's the feels right now for Heartseeker?
Crit Cold / Bleed (w Carrion) or something else best right now?

[flint turret]

can you link me aplanner where you have big leech issues?

[atomic vapor]

probably dragonsong but good luck playing shotgun with a marksman

[flint turret]

maybe im missing something

[zenith bridge]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/h6g6d0qs#2

[cloud plover]

Yeah I really rather play at range as marksman

[atomic vapor]

Just don't expect to blast with hs, if you're ok with that just go cold

[zenith bridge]

im just wondering because Potato said he doesnt have any issues

[atomic vapor]

But it's a little undertuned

[night spruce]

@flint turret trying to make the build we discussed a while back

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGWeljzB thoughts ?

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (31) / Bladedancer (68) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 4,103, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 136.51, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 72 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 168% / 52% / 50% / 38% / 38% / 40% / 47%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 1,437
▸ Dodge Chance: 27% (928)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,064)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 90%

Used skills:

Cinder Strike

[night spruce]

im not sure if wisps can repeat daggers/flasks

[flint turret]

can i have a le version? new maxroll is kinda frustrating. or dm me acc\character name or whatever ill import

[night spruce]

need a confirm on the mechanics

[zenith bridge]

and it also doesnt come from Shift health recovery and ancient coins, thats not enough

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/trikster/character/TriKsterBD3
thats my current char

[flint turret]

well obviosly you dont have crit cap

[zenith bridge]

but check the video i always crit with shadow cascade

always

and i stay away from dummies so that they cant do the initial hit

[wild harbor]

depends

[zenith bridge]

so i would understand it for sync strike, but then it shouldnt happen at the dummy showcase

[flint turret]

hmmmm

[flint turret]

link pls

i dont really understand how are you capped on sync crit

[night spruce]

Hey Ragu

[zenith bridge]

https://youtu.be/GX4AAEYSIig?si=xHYb0hJ9BO-RdUNt&t=219

you can see that even my sync strike crits in the beginning

so i think the leech really comes from the white dot numbers

[flint turret]

yeah hey i saw it ill check later im tring to solve a leech issue now

[night spruce]

kk

[flint turret]

i wanna use siphon too

and i dont wanna use boulder

[zenith bridge]

and i even apply one doom stack with the first sync strike hit

[flint turret]

hmmmm this looks weird

your video

have they done something to damage numbers display?

[zenith bridge]

no clue

[flint turret]

does it add hits into 1 number now or did they fix the sync strike double hit?

[cobalt mantle]

If multiple hits happen at the same insant and are mixed crit and non-crit, there will only be one number and it'll look like a crit

[flint turret]

yeah thats what im thinking but before it didnt add into one number

but now i only see one number from a sync hit

[cobalt mantle]

SC would be crit capped on that setup for sure

[flint turret]

investigating

[cobalt mantle]

but not SS

[zenith bridge]

hmmm, what i can do real quick is to unspec some nodes and put them into Critical Precision passive to cap crit even for sync strike

that should really cap my sync strike

[flint turret]

dam it looks like they fixed sync strike double hit

im trying it with reen and it doesnt look like it double hits anymore

[zenith bridge]

wait, so then my testing now is irrelevant?

if its only one hit

[cobalt mantle]

It should be multiple still

Just in 1 popup number

[zenith bridge]

ok so i put 8points into critical presicion. Char sheet says 116% melee crit. still leeches hp

its doom dot

99%

[flint turret]

im fairly sure the double-hit from shadows is gone on sync

im not geting eitehr double sd stacks or reen stacks

sneaky EHG

no wonder i felt sync isnt dealing as much damage in sd as i remembered

[flint turret]

yeah looks like its doom afterall

and they nerfed sync

[zenith bridge]

is doom so damn strong? i see 40k ticks and i only have a bit of bleed (which surely doesnt leech) and doom

maybe its also the 30% inc leech rate roll on siphon

instead of 10%

[flint turret]

yeah my poison ticks for 44 and doom for 550 on a dummy for a stack

[zenith bridge]

but that shouldnt be a difference

[flint turret]

10 stacks of doom is 5500

1% leach is already 55

and you probably have bigger damage stacks due to it being applied by cascade with tons of multies

[zenith bridge]

damn, really didnt expect so much leech from dot

[flint turret]

check the damage from 1 stack on a dummy with 4- shadow snapshotted cascade

mine if 570 from umbral

[zenith bridge]

one sec

[terse bloom]

anyone try blast rain trap with hydra arc?

[zenith bridge]

not yet, was just testing some interactions

[flint turret]

btw is cascade snapshotting still works? i have some doubts considering they fixed sync

[zenith bridge]

yep showed it here:
https://youtu.be/P07VeUNQbj4?si=-aMYrf-vZHU7rB8R&t=214

[flint turret]

weird

they fixed a lot less powerful and obvious one but left cascade

[zenith bridge]

666 doom

1 stack

[flint turret]

well thats 66 hp+ per sec on 10

is it with snapshotted cascade?

[zenith bridge]

nope that was just a UB throw

[flint turret]

do a cascade

dots inherit more multipliers

i would expect to see maybe 1.5k+ or even more

[zenith bridge]

9.1k first tick, down to 4.5k tick with one doom stack and snapshotted SC

so we have our answer i guess

[flint turret]

dam thats a lot

holy cascade multies

[ashen lance]

What build are u considering guys?

Or just in general skills

[flint turret]

okay boulderfist it is i guess

[zenith bridge]

yep we need it

but im still wondering how Potato didnt leech hp

[flint turret]

we can get doom boots instead of flay ones but eh

[zenith bridge]

i need to see his setup

[flint turret]

probably doom boots

[zenith bridge]

siphon+shattered chains+flay boots setup is just too good for melee in general

[zenith bridge]

we were just testing where the leech comes from for shadow cascade bd

[flint turret]

at least my idea about ignite cindr cascade wasnt terrible it looks like considering what a shitton of multies you get for dots

only if wildefire didnt suck ass

now im thinking about dropping peak for tundra or boneclamor

tundra will open shuriken bladeshield, boneclanor will fix necro res and give some ward per sec

[zenith bridge]

peak is so much QoL for gearing

[flint turret]

yeah fir sure

crit can be fixed however

with idol enchants+rogue passives+crit blessing

kinda dissapointed they fixed double sync bug

[flint turret]

i made a cople of planners for cinder with wildfire before we found out wildfire suck ass

that was my one and only plan for this season

[night spruce]

Why does it suck?

[flint turret]

it spreads only to one enemy fully, if tehre are more enemies it splits ignite stacks up to additional 100%

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/so7180qr

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/1989w0g4

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/p68cm0qz

some of the versions i had prepared but now im stuck with a charactername of RagulCind without cinderstrike as eternal reminder of how EHG messed up with wildfire

cscade variant should somewhat work tho, it should probably deal some decent damage with ignites

and it has a decent aoe for proliferation not being a big issue

but im already too dissapointed to build it

[terse bloom]

yeah peak + 13% right traitor is like 90% sheet crit already haha

[atomic vapor]

With the new dagger you basically cap

[potent arrow]

How do you LL players deal with picking up potions accidentaly?

[flint turret]

There is no room for dagger in most of the builds tho

[rose turtle]

There's a setting to turn off automatic potion pickup

[flint turret]

Also you can convert potions to ward

[potent arrow]

thanks

[flint turret]

Either with 4 stout prefixes or t7 affix on ring or xithara amulet or Necro belt

T7 on ring doesn't sound that bad

[potent arrow]

difficult with shattered chains https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkGP626Q

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (69) / Marksman (5) / Falconer (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,903, Regen: 19.16/s
▸ Mana: 132.41, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 60%, Regen: 74/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 28 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 110% / 72% / 77% / 80% / 76% / 72% / 58%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 406
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (707)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,586)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 32%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

Used skills:

Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shift / Shadow Cascade / Synchronized Strike

[potent arrow]

so either ring or idols

[flint turret]

I'm planning to get it on a ring, they don't have that good of an affixes to slam anyway

T7 avoidance being the only exception probably

But it's not really needed too, can just get a blessing

[potent arrow]

difficult to put all the resistances in with all these uniques

[flint turret]

Not that hard

Peak has 2 open affixes, 2lp rings have at least one for res each, boulder gloves have some also, and there are idols/ blessings to help too

You can also get 20% all res from bless if you go t7 avoidance

[potent arrow]

difficult to get the lp and the right slams

[obsidian flame]

Should i be trying to transition to falconer acid flask asap over the marksman version?

[potent arrow]

do the increased melee dmg increased phys dmg increased dmg per shadow all fall into the same bucket for cascade?

[flint turret]

Slams can be tricky but getting LPs isn't really an issue for 3lp peak or 3 lp boulder or 2lp siphon/nomad

[flint turret]

Yes

[potent arrow]

whats the prio for weapon slams added melee phys > melee attack speed > armor shred/phys pen?

that seems fishy

[flint turret]

Flat t7 on both, and one t5 shred. The rest is optional

[atomic vapor]

Yeah it was more of a "powercreep" statement. Peak tongue + prim dagger is instant crit cap

Frees up the relic slot if you don't wanna lock into shattered worlds

Also frees up the multi blessing, can get dodge for high corruption

(cause sometimes you have to get increased crit before woven idols/minmax)

[flint turret]

I'd use prim crit body over dagger anyday

If I don't need something else

[flint turret]

How about flat crit t7 smoke with reen instead of smoke+tongue?

Should be more damage and you still can use weapons of choise

The only downside is -2 skills

Which isn't a problem with +4 cascade on body. Also I just noticed your relic, 4 hp on crit, isn't it bad?

[cloud plover]

Obviously missing a ton of items but just from a uniques as bases standpoint I think this is the best you can do for straight up bleed chance (replaced with duration for boots/relic), right?
Sadly I don't think the planner shows the conversion of the gloves just now.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BglgOM5o

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 92

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (35) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (53) / Falconer (9)

General:

▸ Health: 1,589, Regen: 33.23/s
▸ Mana: 175.91, Regen: 9.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 44 Dex / 12 Int / 6 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 46% / 20% / 20% / 50% / 10% / 17% / 22%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 509
▸ Dodge Chance: 26% (843)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (810)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Puncture

[potent arrow]

im not really noticing that hp on crit effecting me negatively

[crimson latch]

how you doing with that build? also how is the boss dmg

[gentle plover]

any info about wildfire ember ? or still silence from devs?

[cloud plover]

Haven't switched to it entirely yet. Still using a more "normal" version with just bleed items. Planning for tonight to switch.

At 150c it's doing well although 150c isn't much.

[flint turret]

Works as intended

[potent arrow]

@flint turret you mentioned ending the evolution of rift beast early to get more bones from the "dungeon" do you still get that amulet reward then?

[flint turret]

It proliferates up to 100% ignite stacks to enemies. If there is more than one, it splits up to 100% in total

[flint turret]

No, it only drops at the evolution end. However you still get hearts if you are lucky

I don't really care about amulet, nihilis will be better anyway

[potent arrow]

alright, cause there is this 300 corr woven echo that for sure spawns a heart beast

rampant coast

[flint turret]

Haven't seen it yet. If I need hearts I imprint bloodline echo

99% if the time bones is the limiting factor for me tho

[potent arrow]

yeah but i didnt like the other loot from the bloodline one

this seems faster to get a garantueed heart and more interesting loot table

now to see how many it spawns in the echo web

spawns a lot as well and killing 1 super juiced beast feels faster then the other one

[crimson latch]

well i did awesome with crit cold truesigh HS, but i was too squishy, melted 400c with only couple clicks xD

i guess DoT version es better for bosses

im pretty noob, where is the dummie zone

[cloud plover]

Yeah the 999+ Bleed Stack consume from Puncture just deletes like 50+% of Boss HP sometimed

[cloud plover]

If the Bleed Glove passive wasn't broken atm it would even have good clear.

[flint turret]

Haven't seen it yet so that's good to know

[flint turret]

Arena

[crimson latch]

Is bugged? Jesus

[crimson latch]

Thank you!

[cloud plover]

Yeah the explosion is on the player instead of the mob... Kinda makes it pointless for ranged builds

[crimson latch]

but is working as intended this way or devs know this ?

[left sun]

Reroll time

[zenith bridge]

No this will not affect ll, even with lots of mobs around you

[flint turret]

bro tf is this my skills and movement just stopped working

you can see buttons being pressed at the botom

[rugged pollen]

yeah this freeze bug is new

and it's different from the old sync strike bug

[flint turret]

god im glad they added loot gather upon death. 2 of t7 phys flat swords there

have no idea how people play LE on HC

[rugged pollen]

you only got sent to sc if die in hc no?

[flint turret]

yeah but still

[cloud plover]

From the tooltip it should explode on enemy. I reported as a bug not sure if/when they fix

[potent arrow]

@zenith bridge i asked in your other vid about the LL shift tree worrying about the healing, to follow up on that there is this execute node in the shift tree but it costs 5 points to get a 16% execute on shift. Reckon thats worth it?

[ember flume]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822

boring

[eager mason]

might be because I insta killed them when testing https://streamable.com/w9m8o6

I am playing chakram I can swap and test on dummy 1sec

[flint turret]

okay its the map its bugged

cant move over some tiles

[crimson latch]

so probably bd ll its the most viable build between marksman and bd?

[cloud plover]

Can someone confirm if this interaction is a bug or intended?
Puncture - Mutilate should consume bleed stacks and deal the damage instantly.
If you equip Troak's Teeth this no longer works.

The description does say "instead of applying bleed" but that still seem like such a dumb thing.

[crimson latch]

also, any1 tried flacid ask ? is better as falconer or as marksman

[eager mason]

@zenith bridge yeah ok it works on dummy

but do you actually leech that much while mapping

since its not gonna do as much damage in real maps as it does on dummy

[potent arrow]

could u wear 2 siphons of anguish to get more dmg out of the Shattered Chains belt?

[eager mason]

no

max stacks doesnt change

[potent arrow]

ah right

[night spruce]

Knowledge of immunity converts to fire

(Acid flask passive?)

[night spruce]

ah thanks

the prior nodes did not mention the fire one

only the cold

so i was wondering

[hybrid marsh]

We refining the cascade build still?

Cuz I'm loving it

Looking forward to aspirational drops

[coral tundra]

Pretty cool this season

[hybrid marsh]

It's always pretty cool

It's the only build I play until something more fun comes out.

[thin quartz]

i havent really used build planner before. but why is there no bow listed?

[rugged pollen]

what class are you choosing?

[thin quartz]

ohh, gotta choose class first? 1 sec

ahh you're right, i didnt do class.

[cloud plover]

Did you actually get above 100% crit chance? Feels pretty impossible unless you find a bow with T7 Crit Chance

[fast heath]

can anyone reccomnd some fun speed clear rogue build?

[zenith rivet]

I decieded to follow Ragulols suggestion to imprint Bloddline Glade Echo to get some mats but this is getting ridiculous

[thin quartz]

is there a web page that i can see T8 affixes?

[flint turret]

yeah i found it funny too

[zenith bridge]

you mean on a dummy you dont go out of low life without boulder?

[flint turret]

game really tempts me out of farming nihilis

[eager mason]

no I mean on dummy Im leeching since I dont insta kill it

but the leech shouldnt be as bad on maps

since you are gonna do less damage

[zenith rivet]

funny wouldnt be the 1st word that comes to mind. Painfull is more like my experience so far

[zenith bridge]

will test later again

[eager mason]

I was using the boots on ll version so never had to test this

[eager mason]

can do the same with rampant coast xddBusiness

[flint turret]

why? just proc it 3-5 times and re-imprint to something else

[zenith rivet]

because my gear sucks and it makes me on average 5-8 tries per monolith to clear them

[flint turret]

you can also farm hearts by constantly ending a lineage which is super easy to do

so i dont see any problem tbh

[zenith rivet]

i might (or might not) have been aware of that

what would be the fastest farm for bones? i seem to have enough hearts for the items i want to buy but im missing the bones

[flint turret]

this imo

[flint turret]

if someone knows a faster way id gladly hear it

[eager mason]

ok Im leeching on harbinger, so its either doom boots or boulder I guess

[zenith bridge]

Thx for testing! I think boulder is fine. The extra stun, armour, flat hp is nice

Also easy to get with lp

[crimson latch]

stop playing bd

and save marksman, thanks

hahahaha

[flint turret]

tourists...

[zenith bridge]

Im waiting for the wildfire patchnotes 😜

Potato you play lightning chaks right?

[flint turret]

at best they will change the description

[zenith bridge]

When you try uber, can you compare deadly aim shurikens with it please? Last league i only played chakrams

I think for uber deadly aim is better

[eager mason]

is everything else the same

on tree and stuff

[flint turret]

i have a semi-abuse how to get more bones for ya

if you gather some enemies to follow you and bring them to the entrance of the primo level

and then before entering leave something that can kill them later (in my case smoke bomb)

after you enter you kill enemies left outside of the entrance

and they drop bones outside

[zenith bridge]

Yep rest of the tree is the sams

But with deadly aim shurikens you will hit with all projectiles. Chakrams some time you can mess up the return depending on your positioning

Clear comes from UB explosions. So should be possible to farm high corruption aswell with the same setup

[zenith rivet]

i will give it a shot next time i find a portal

[flint turret]

thats me exiting after i left smoke bomb out. its not much but its something

[zenith rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[flint turret]

baliista can probably farm a lot tho

[trim dawn]

i gotta say

really kind of annoyed with how lame this league mechanic ended up being

[inland yacht]

have you tried turning the lights back on

[trim dawn]

i genuinely want to enjoy it more

but they need to buff the numbers up or something

[inland yacht]

it's not a "league mechanic" it's just core functionality of the game. there's no seasonal mechanics yet

yeah I can see it

[trim dawn]

i was trying to find one that embedded

but apparently none of them do

i dont care whether it's "seasonal" or not, the mechanic itself is very lackluster

[flint turret]

what exactly are you dissatisfied with? i think its pretty good as is

outside of primordial uniques being being bad for the most part

[trim dawn]

The only new main thing is beast spawns that occasionally allow you to buy a unique.

but getting the uniques takes a bit

most of them are trash

and then its LE

so if you get your unique after x amount of time, then send it to a nemesis egg

and the egg gives it x useless affixes

it was a waste

[flint turret]

well some of them are definetly bis and i think almost every build would want some

[inland yacht]

seems fine to me. it does exactly what it's supposed to do in breaking up the monotony. it gives you more options for build enabling uniques. it gives a system that can integrate easily into other systems. it introduced T8 affixes

[flint turret]

getting 1lp is not that hard on primos

[inland yacht]

yeah I got a 2LP strength shield just from the vendor

[trim dawn]

ok and if you didnt

its just shit rng on top of shit rng

[flint turret]

you farm some more obviously

[trim dawn]

yes, obviously

[inland yacht]

then you buy it again? i don't understand how that's different from the rest of the uniques in the game

it doesn't take long to farm them

[flint turret]

you are getting like 2k bones+ per level clear, end the lineage and repeat

then get hearts from woven

pretty easy

[inland yacht]

and they're target farmable compared to most build enabling uniques

[trim dawn]

because the rest of the game isn't a whole new league mechanic

[flint turret]

they are easier to get than 1lp null or nihilis id say

[inland yacht]

again it's just core functionality. it's the same as the rest of the game

[flint turret]

because i have a couple already with lp and i havent even cleared all harbs yet

[trim dawn]

That doesn't mean it's not the entire new league mechanic though?

i dont udnerstand your argument

notice how on the literal blog post it's referenced 3 different times?

Because that's the mechanic of the patch

its supposed to be fun and exciting

[inland yacht]

it's not. they're not doing anything seasonal. it's a new mechanic sure but it's going to be around for the rest of the game's life

[trim dawn]

this is very mid

[flint turret]

mechanic is okay, but items are mostly mid yeah

[trim dawn]

YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON THAT SAID SEASONAL

STOP TALKING

[inland yacht]

you literally keep saying league

[hybrid marsh]

@zenith bridge upding the build planner as you find new stuff? i dont wanna throw something out i might need haha

[inland yacht]

which is obviously coming from PoE

where the league mechanics are generally juiced up specifically to drive up engagement with the new temporary thing

[flint turret]

im really dissapointed by how bad bleed and ignite prolif are and they could have easily made it awesome

[hybrid marsh]

i feel like exile mages are useless

[trim dawn]

Yes, because it is a new league. And with it came a new mechanic.

And the new mechanic

is very very mid

[inland yacht]

people hyped up the bleed prolif too much imo. they're primarily for the massive conversion and the bleed explosions don't inherit the modifiers that applied the bleed in the first place

[flint turret]

i was hyped by ignite myself

but its pretty garbo

[inland yacht]

that I can def agree with. needed a multiplier with it or something

[zenith bridge]

when i find out new stuff i updated, yes. For now the build already feels really good

only thing i wanna test is new primo dagger with exsangiunous and compare dmg/ward

[flint turret]

i already asked but might have missed an answer. thoughts about reen+t7 flat crit smoke instead of tongue?

i see it better than smoke+tongue tbh

[zenith bridge]

for me as mg player i prefer t7 flat dmg with 200% dmg effectiveness. Will be hard to find 2x t7 for reen. And traitors +2dex also feels too good

imma QoL guy 🙂

[flint turret]

but reen has much more flat than tongue narutaly already

only issue is shred

you will need it eother on 2lp reen or 2lp smoke

yeah i guess thats a big difference

[zenith bridge]

yea 3lp traitor is more realistic

i prefer reen+traitor for now

[trim dawn]

also still wild to me that there were no CoF changes tbh

[flint turret]

yeah no havoc\redemtion still and no reroll qol

[inland yacht]

the puncture charge node makes me want to play the bleed-snipe playstyle every time I see it but the multipliers are just way too low

[trim dawn]

also I still just don't understand why they shifted some of the CoF levels the way they did. I honestly don't think I'd actually feel the difference if these levels were just removed from the game

[flint turret]

i would agree before i started playing a build that need expetimental t7

[trim dawn]

yeah im not playing one of those so maybe thats why

[flint turret]

that mage prison echo drops like shit

got the first one just now at lvl 96

ridiculos

[trim dawn]

I remember in s1 I actually liked experimented items, but when they removed the ability to create your own it kinda was meh

[inland yacht]

full set drop is pretty convenient when you can't ever get everything from last bear to drop

there's a handful of them that are useful. lich's scorn and isadora's tomb binding might be the most useful set items without extracting the affix shards

[trim dawn]

i mean until they can just go and make set items actually useful for more than just a couple of niche cases

they should just cut that out

[flint turret]

yeah i dont like the change to experimental either. insight+expetimental was a great mechanic

[trim dawn]

and again, to keep harping on this, the league mechanic needs to be more engaging. As it stands right now, I'm essentially playing S2 and occasionally get to buy a new unique that will probably get trashed when it bricks

either up the power of a lot of the primordial uniques, make acquisition faster, or make the mechanic more engaging

[eager mason]

wrong season

[trim dawn]

lmao

2 leagues ago ud be broken

is this hitting the nuts or nah

[lusty wagon]

prio tankinees above dmg > ?

@terse bloom can u share ur talent tree pls? ty

[potent arrow]

why cant i click the damn button to craft the item?

[rugged pollen]

because it's a prim item bro

[potent arrow]

i tried multiple items just too a screenshot with this one

[warm zephyr]

in fairness, the UI doesn't mention you can't do it with primordial items

[trim dawn]

so the best strategy seems to just be ignoring actually evolving, and just ending lineage everyt ime, right?

[potent arrow]

it was clickable with the primordial, nothing happened and now the button doesnt work with normal eligable items

[warm zephyr]

was responding to flick

[potent arrow]

it also lights up when you open ur stash with the auto filled in "experimentable" search

well this is a massive waste of time, 2 of these echo's ruined by this bug

[hallow fiber]

How can EHG be happy with launching a S3 where the main mechanic is pointless to any bow rogue .. what's the point

[sinful gyro]

hi guys, anyone playng marksman ignite? i have some questions about it

[pastel timber]

Most of us give up the ignite build as the prolif amulet doesn’t work as intented

[trim dawn]

i actually almost couldnt roll worse LMAO

[deft lichen]

have some primordial good to use in a falconer?

[stable anchor]

depends on the build. dagger is pretty generically good on dex builds. reliquary is pretty generically good on most things.

[trim dawn]

The chest is a great EHP boost.

Just don't roll unlucky like I did lols

[valid jacinth]

What builds are you guys on this league? First time trying Rogue out, tried to swap to Ballista at 75 with Bow drop but got absolutely dumpstered and rerolled back into my umbral blades levelling build. I think Razorfall Umbral Blades got hard nerfed so not too sure where to go from here

[stable anchor]

mapping razorfall is still solid just not giga op, bossing version with traps is dead, acid flask is good, hail of arrows is good

[valid jacinth]

Hmm I guess I might lean towards Razorfall whilst I collect gear for Balista

[stable anchor]

ballista still op forgot to mention that

[valid jacinth]

Yea just wondering if I go razorfall as well

whilst i farm, or stick to a cookie cutter umbral build

[zenith bridge]

@flint turret @eager mason new setup for SC?
Whetstone Gavel (t7 melee phys) + exalted obsidian...that would be 14% flat crit + double effect from all stats.

[eager mason]

sounds like a lot of damage but you lose the chest

[flint turret]

2 primordials ftw

[zenith bridge]

yea exsa instead

but the dmg is nuts

[flint turret]

No way I'm trading primo body for exang

[eager mason]

also -15% from cascade tree and -1 lvls

[flint turret]

It's not nuts

[eager mason]

need to test to see how much more damage it is

[flint turret]

You are loosing 200 multi from reen

God dam my perfectionism. I have lots of high lp items and nothing slammed for cascade, I'm still running sd

I need to pretend high lp don't exist and just slam 1lp on everything

[zenith bridge]

you get 130+86 flat dmg + 160% inc dmg + 24 phys pen + alot more shred stacks. I think that could be higher compared to reen bonus. But im not good with math

[flint turret]

I'm okay with math and I already see it's not great unless it's a triple exalted dagger

The amount of ward you will lose is crazy

[real tulip]

HEy @zenith bridge do you think shadow cascade is the best bladedancer build right now? I wanted to play something rogue as I never have before but i didnt want to play a zhp falconer build. So i was looking at your SC build and the chakram one?

[zenith bridge]

i unequipped my current architects to exsa...from 3.9k ward to 2.1k 😅

[eager mason]

yeah I hate exsang

[flint turret]

Half of ehp gone maybe for like 20% DPS increase tops

[eager mason]

the base has 30 armor and 1 mod basically

[flint turret]

And not only ehp, also sustain

[eager mason]

I would go the ward on shadow creation way rather than exsang I think if you wanna play with the gavel

[zenith bridge]

Cascade and Chakram, yep. Cascade overall being better imo. Probably some broken acid flask trapper as BD aswell.

[flint turret]

I wanted to use 1lp items and just slam flat on weapons and shred on the amulet... But the issue is that the only 1lp evolution amulet is +1 and I don't wanna use 2lp +2 for single shred

Also failed couple of daggers craft for 3lp tongue and shattered them all so I don't even have t7 flat exalted dagger anymore... LPs are stressful

Life was easier when everyone was running mostly in exalted or 1lp

What's the earliest way to get shock for cascade? Stout idols?

I wanna keep stacking stun chance

[crimson latch]

4k dodge rating is good? :V

[hybrid marsh]

someone be a homie and ping me with the strat for t7 experimental suffix

[flint turret]

Experimental are prefixes tho

[hybrid marsh]

thats what i meant

[flint turret]

I did it like this: get at least 5 items with any t7 suffix, go to mages prison, experiment on them, havoc suffix into experimental prefix

[cobalt mantle]

I think people tend to have luck with using a crafting base with a T7 suffix so the exp craft can't kill it, then havoc the T7 to the exp prefix

[flint turret]

5 items because prison has 5 charges

The issue is to get it in the first place, the droprate is horrendous

Got my first one at lvl 96

And I wasn't skipping any mages

[hybrid marsh]

wait, i remember there being a tool someone used

or made

[cobalt mantle]

You might be remembering the old glyph crafting

[flint turret]

I liked it more tbh

Outside of the terrible chance of getting t7 experimental due to absence of havocs

[pine hatch]

Wat broken flask trapper as BD?

[cobalt mantle]

Old way was weird, I'm glad its gone. I miss the free seal rune of course, surprising they rolled that back considering all the power creep elsewhere lol

[crimson latch]

3

[inland yacht]

assuming you mean explosive trap with flask sprinkler right? the acid flask trap node is my favorite bad skill node and I don't know how I'll be able to handle it being good

[visual warren]

what did they nerf on razorfall, and why bossing with traps is dead?

[stable anchor]

too many things for me to recall off the top of my head but the bow version with traps is dead now because they killed the mana sustain, non traps version is fine (but still def a lot worse) because that version never struggled for mana anyways

[shrewd kestrel]

anyone have a good place I can look at guides for endgame that are still relevant? I have reached the end of the campaign but feel totally blind as to how to handle the COF or monoliths at all. When I looked for videos on the stuff it all seemed quite old.

[visual warren]

are you talking about dive bomb? if so could you remember why non bow dont use so much mana?

[rugged pollen]

got him

[pastel timber]

gg!

[stable anchor]

it's mostly about traps, traps cost a ton of mana but before you could use the nodes in falconry and dive bomb to just barely eek out enough mana sustain but the mana recovery on dive bomb and falconry got nerfed. non-bow versions weren't generally using traps to begin with

also midnight aviary got a cap, that's a really big one

[visual warren]

oh got it thx for the info i didnt look much into it before

[pastel timber]

This armor + Jungle queen working well on HS, almost 80% dodge chance on mapping and bossing

but need to press pot every 4 seconds to get buff, so up to you guys

double the idol is huge

[crimson latch]

:p

[crimson latch]

and ur map is good? boss dmg?

[uncut notch]

Anything new for cold heartseeker?

[left sun]

shake fist

[crimson latch]

dude wtfffffffffffffff thats beautiful haha

[pearl forge]

nani

[terse bloom]

shes ready to slam

[graceful notch]

Nice roll

[terse bloom]

yh

[rugged pollen]

huh

what build are u playing

that's some weird slam

[thin quartz]

the double idol buff is all of it except for unique? or its just 1 of each shape except unique?

[terse bloom]

shadow dagger ub + db + bleed

[topaz forge]

What's the fastest leveling setup for rogue? End goal is to run shadow cascade bladedancer.

[rugged pollen]

cant really go wrong with shadow dagger

dunno if it's fastest or not but you just can't go wrong with it

[topaz forge]

Alright cool thanks. Haven't played since launch but iirc that's unlocked somewhere in the teens leveling up?

[rugged pollen]

yeah

before that just use flurry/puncture or whatever
along with acid flask

[topaz forge]

Sweet thanks

[terse bloom]

cosmetics bugged for anyone?

nvm works now

[lapis pumice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlSLWYX-IYA quick draft of a build i think of

ballista damage not displayed, around 500K on training dummy for now

potential for jiga mult with dex tho

but need to fix flat damage source

if u have ideas 👍

i tried a bunch of mana fix, and julra dial with mana regen seemed the most reliable

thinking of going either julra x2 or mana regen relic+neck

& keep red ring for tankyness

or just embrace zhp with mourning & fix flat this way

i tried cooldown stacking a bit

lvl 100 with T7 cooldown x2 it's 1.5 cd evade

also thought of lightning in a bottle belt + potion spam to reset evade

but it's not necessary i think

cuz for bossing since hydra procs dont overlap you just spam ballista for explosion

& for clearing, the density alone will make screens explode

the build is giga fun tho, i'll keep pushing it i think

and if u fix mana i think the bossing dps can be around erasing strike dps tbh from testing on legacy a bit

biggest problem to solve for bossing is armor break stacking

[terse bloom]

mana looks rough

[lapis pumice]

yeah

i tried with x2 dial on legacy it's fine then

[terse bloom]

hunters spoils nerf sadly

[lapis pumice]

also the balista explosion proc the mana back nodes

from rogue & marks

but marks one unusable cuz +45% mana cost on trap

[terse bloom]

hope it works out for ya

[lapis pumice]

it's the for fun side project of season 😂

might end up with something good

[trim dawn]

thought about swapping to smoke bomb movement + and then aerial assault for % mana gain?

[lapis pumice]

could be an idea

but then u would need to mana stack a bit

build drinks mana like vk frfr

[lapis pumice]

16 potions with experimetal affix & pray boss is dead then 🤝

i'm gonna try ur idea

• traps got a node to reset falcon skills cds a tiny bit

[trim dawn]

wouldn't even need to be too crazy though. even at just the 200 mana ur at now, aerial assault woudl be giving u 20 mana per, and smoke clouds would give u 30

[lapis pumice]

i go dummy now 👍

[lapis pumice]

it's aight