🔪┃rogue

[plucky mountain]

Ok I've gotten three blast knives to drop, guess I'm rerolling now

[hybrid marsh]

i feel kind of deflated ngl

this season is giving me a "meh" specifically because I only play BD, i guess its my fault

[next gale]

what you playing rn?

I agree though with the feeling, hate how they have been doing seasons so far.
Only reworking one class/spec and not really adding meaningful additions to other ones has made it so each season has limited class diversity.

[hybrid marsh]

i rerolled from MM to BD and literally just walking around and feeling completely deflated

[grand finch]

@zenith bridge u will make heartseeker again? or for now, it's not worth it because the unique item isn't working as it should?

[zenith bridge]

Hopefully they adjust wildfires prolif. Otherwise i dont see myself coming back to the build because the only interesting mechanic for me was the prolif to get rid of puncture procs. Otherwise hybrid dot poison/bleed does the same job.
I also tested hydra bow, nothing special.
So now im playing bladedancer and im happy again 🙂

[grand finch]

I understand, but is there anything new in bladedancer?

[pastel timber]

Hey Trik, do you think the new mana/ward primordial ring could work on HS hybrid dot ? As we proc puncture by hearthseeker and it cost 0 ?

It is something going in my head

[pastel timber]

Maybe the old BD ward like in 0.9 could be strong to push high corruption

[tawdry cedar]

do people swap from a leveling build to ballistas at 70? Or can I do it earlier at 60 and be relatively fine?

[grand finch]

nice

[grand finch]

I think it depends on whether the build has a unique item required perhaps?

[tawdry cedar]

I don't think so, but I have uethrin's stand. I assume for ballista's it's mana regen

[zenith bridge]

Yea ill try both life and low life version for shadow cascade. Not many changes for bd in general, but primordials can increase the power for some bd builds.

[zenith bridge]

The mana ring could be interesting with meteor proc 🙂

[silent relic]

Oh meteor proc rogue is not something I ever thought I’d here lol

[pearl forge]

i might try to do an ignite build with BBC

and new gloves

you can get lots of shock time rot and bleed chance

[tawny hatch]

why can't I use detonating arrow with jelkhor's? I can't find any conditions preventing it from being used, besides the tooltip saying that a bow is required even though I have jelkhor's equipped

[pearl forge]

are you mm?

falconer and bd dont have detonating arrow

[tawny hatch]

yes I have been using DA for all of campaign and was using jelkhor's earlier and it functioned. I just tried swappng to it a moment ago nd its unusable now

[pearl forge]

rip

[tawny hatch]

nvm it works now, nice bug x)

[crimson latch]

I've done like 15 times( im not lying) reign of dragons, 300c and still can't get all ress even the 1st time

16*

wtf is going on

[glossy silo]

Im gonna start season now, BD is the way to go ?

[rugged pollen]

to go where?

[glossy silo]

to have fun

[night laurel]

Falconer is dead this season? 😒

[hybrid marsh]

BD sucks go mm or falc

[grand finch]

mm?

[unique umbra]

is the game offline?

[pastel timber]

Patch

Just restart steam

[little temple]

what patch is it ?

is it to fix wild fire T_T

[rotund plover]

so last season it was the green hyper beams

and now we have these draal fire bugs blasting u

[little temple]

the big bug with the 1 shot cone wave ?

[rotund plover]

ye

[undone spear]

do these still sell this season??

[grand finch]

no fix in wild fire yet?

[little temple]

i haven't seen any confirmation from dev that it is bad or bugged yet

[grand finch]

Well, one of two things, either the item will stay like this because if you move it it will be completely stolen and that's it.

That's why I say that this game is to be played for a maximum of 30 days, it's impossible to continue playing for more than that and you're limited to the same skills in the end, or even the same items...

[little temple]

well in this case it's 1 week cause poe 2, i've done about 3 lineage and i think i saw everything the new mechanic can do, the moment i can buy my primordial item the league mechanic has little value left

[spare aurora]

anyone doing acid flask falcon? how is it?

[grand finch]

Exactly, if you are a guy who chews the game and has no difficulty building and things like that, it is 2 weeks maximum and you have already done everything in the game.

[little temple]

lmao almost min roll ofc

wait a minute an item with a primordial mod is treated as a primordial item so i cannot use this relic WHAT

[next gale]

yes

[little temple]

omg this is so BAD

[little temple]

increased cold damage ?

[real tulip]

@zenith bridge do you think shadow cascade will out perfrom something like acid flask?

[unique umbra]

but my shurikens don't do cold damge

[real tulip]

shuri is not melee

its throwing

[unique umbra]

yeah but it should literally be the same

one shouldn't be higher than the other

nm I'm dumb lol

I'm wearing mourningfrost boots

[real tulip]

there is the cold lol

[unique umbra]

yep rofl that's awesome

[peak marten]

anyone try wildfire?

[little temple]

very weak

[grand finch]

:/

[upper river]

what is the meta build for rogues rn?

[crimson latch]

gentlemens, HS IS ALIVE with truesight amulet

holymolly 120k crtis and no capped with some bad gear

and also fire version (no mourning frost))))9

[tight hornet]

i am trying the ballista build but having no def and the mana managment is ass

[rigid umbra]

how alive we talking?

[crimson latch]

i'll try uberroth tomorrow

nah jk, too squishty for that haha

[rigid umbra]

Bruh

[tight hornet]

couldnt this be used for ballista?

[zenith bridge]

Nah acid flask is busted and will probably get nerfed one day.
Shadow cascade bd is a very strong and balanced build though.

[marble narwhal]

i think he went off this world to the sleepy one 😛

but im curious as well

morning all \o

[marble narwhal]

do u have any cold heartseeker alt build m8 ?

[little temple]

guys i swapped to elemental hail of arrows and it's 10 times better than BD , only took leveling to 90 to swap

mobs this patch so toxic to melee just be ranged

[zenith bridge]

Only the old one from s2 in legacy

[little temple]

the new rift monster echo drops rift exclusive mods it seems , every single time i kill them i get these mods

only found 2 rogue specific so far

or maybe champion specific mods

[atomic vapor]

They drop champion t8s

Only way to get them

[little temple]

only usable mod for rogue i can see so far, is it usable ?

what do you use max shadows for anyway ?

[stable nacelle]

anybody got loot filter for ballista falconer?

[little temple]

anyone found this one yet ?

[potent arrow]

mono's feel weird when im getting 1 shot left and right, but Lagon + Harbinger are ez mode at 100c

[marble narwhal]

gonna check it m8

[thin quartz]

glyph bug. its no wonder why am i lacking glyph of hope during my campaign run.

had to relog for them to reappear. god dammit

[flint turret]

Do you have a vid with hydra testing? I'm kinda interested. I would assume the attacks don't count as direct attacks and don't give mana on hit and neither do they snapshot/consume anything like elemental arrows or black arrows? Can you spam it with lightning in a bottle?Hopefully they don't deal less damage than the main attack...right, RIGHT?

[atomic vapor]

If you wanna take Mike's word for it, he said direct attacks are only attacks you have to press the hotkey of the skill for

In the code at least

[flint turret]

I know but this one's are repeats

And we don't really have a definition for repeats

[atomic vapor]

Yeah I mean I recall him saying that in reaction to hydra

[wary cedar]

is there an updated heartseeker build?

[flint turret]

Also I wouldn't be surprised if they have sneaked in some nerf to repeats without any description like with wildfire

Like repeats dealing less damage or something

[potent arrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71xHN44d9qQ

[flint turret]

Or having a limit per second or whatever

[flint turret]

Thanks but that doesn't answer my questions really

[potent arrow]

hehe stopped reading at do you have a vid with hydra testing as i just saw that

[little temple]

does fire pen increase my hail of arrow damage ?, if most of my added is fire

[flint turret]

I haven't actually played it but it definitely should (if you took fire conversion). I'm not sure about the case where you didn't take it but have added fire

Probably should too

[little temple]

oh i do convert it over, for some reason i thought penetration only work with hits, cause fire pen with ignite is a thing so i thought with dots you speed specific stats

[flint turret]

Penetration works for dots too like ignite or whatever

[little temple]

ok nice nice ty

[flint turret]

Maybe you confused it with armor shred which doesn't work for dots

Resistance shred however does(it's basically added pen)

[little temple]

i see ty ty

[quartz nebula]

Seems like it's intended, Mike replied to someone in ask the devs channel "I know the effect isn't what most people had expected based on the tooltip description but I haven't seen any evidence to suggest it is bugged."

And also this "I don't have much info on the topic. From what I understand the expectation was that each stack would spread to every other enemy around while instead each stack only spreads to one enemy around. So in a situation where there are more than 2 enemies, one could have 999+ and another could have 20 if there were enough enemies around. If you sum up all the ignites on dummies nearby, they should be pretty similar to the main target. I know this is almost impossible to do in game without being able to pause and specifically look at what is going on like we can in the dev engine."

So i think it is just bad and will not get fixed

untill next update

[wary cedar]

can someone give me a short explanation about what's up with heartseeker?

[flint turret]

Bait and switch of giga proportions on a nutshell

Came up with widely desired bleed and ignite spread mechanics and butchered them from the get-go. What a waste

[quartz nebula]

Yep

Wording on amulet sounds like once you ignite 1 enemy, all of stacks will prolif to nearby enemies, but it somehow spreads to only 1, and stacks are halved on spread

[hybrid notch]

yea, I rerolled to lich at this point 🤷‍♂️

[quartz nebula]

So you get 100 on 1 monster, 50 on other, 25 on other and so on

[flint turret]

Yep. It got everyone hyped to try a dot build just to get immensely disappointed right away

[wary cedar]

ok so shouldnt affect my old build then

[quartz nebula]

if you don't rely on spread to clear then yes

[wary cedar]

i play with dragon song so i guess no?

[flint turret]

Hopefully they will split that amulet into 2 items, one with wisps and repeats and the other one with an actually working proliferation. Same with bleed gloves

(that won't happen most likely)

[quartz nebula]

It could, but not mid season

But honestly they should just make the items good, you trade tier 8 affix for it

[atomic vapor]

doesn't sound like EHG not gonna lie

[flint turret]

Sad but true

[quartz nebula]

and so far only couple of them are really powerful

[flint turret]

Yeah

[sick fern]

hopefully they fix it

feels like I wasted my time making that build

[flint turret]

Feels like I wasted a season. All I was planning about was around ignite prolif

[atomic vapor]

Even the name of the item is misleading

What's wild about that fire

[sick fern]

same it was the only interesting build 4me

I played runemaster before

and I don't like minions

[atomic vapor]

I don't like minions either but I gave bear a chance this season

Wanted to switch up

Mixed feelings so far

[sick fern]

the only decent minion build I've played were skeleton mages in poe1

[quartz nebula]

well, i think EHG decided that they will not buff or nerf things mid season

soo

[sick fern]

guess ill be playing poe2 then lol

[quartz nebula]

unless it really is bugged that build is a goner

[sick fern]

I don't feel like remaking my current build just becouse 1 unique is broken

and doesn't work

[flint turret]

We are not talking about this season, it's pretty much over for any prolif mechanics. But we(or at least I) don't see ehg making it viable even in next seasons tbh

[flint turret]

Running auguries with summons ftw

[sick fern]

I have like 5k hours in poe1 and this will be my 1st poe2 league

so idk I will probably play rogue becouse of the new deflect mechanic

40% dr is just too good

[flint turret]

Ah, okay, gl then. It's worth to do all content at least once for sure

[quartz nebula]

i will probaly make warrior again

and suffer

[sick fern]

warriors aren't getting much love in 0.3

[quartz nebula]

kinda wild that they said evasion is the worst defensive mechanic

[sick fern]

from what I've seen

[quartz nebula]

yea

i just like the feel

[sick fern]

maybe the armour applies to elemental is good

maybe not

[quartz nebula]

nah

thats shit

[rigid umbra]

It should be

[sick fern]

in poe1 that stat is op

idk about 2

[quartz nebula]

because it aplies different in the calculations in poe 2

differend formula

[rigid umbra]

I hope it's busted

[quartz nebula]

and instead of op it gives like 4% mitigation if you have high armor

[sick fern]

noway

thats garbo

evasion it is then

its gonna be busted af with 100% deflect

suppression but it works on everything duh

[quartz nebula]

yep

and you can have it with high es too i think

[sick fern]

rogue meta

[quartz nebula]

chaluya unarmed monk

[wary cedar]

isnt poe2 dog water?

[sick fern]

its the future

[quartz nebula]

poe 2 has some problems, but overall it's good and will get better

this patch is pretty pog

if you don't play warrior

[wary cedar]

i only had massive fps issues when i tried it once

refunded it

idk if thats the future lol

[sick fern]

whats ur cpu and gpu

[quartz nebula]

i play on GFN and it's stable

[sick fern]

oh it is the future for sure once they cook it up more

[wary cedar]

7900xtx and 7900x3d

[sick fern]

you shouldn't have any issues with those

[wary cedar]

ya like in 3 years i see myself trying it again maybe xd

[wary cedar]

game is heavily unoptimized

https://tenor.com/view/future-squidward-spongebob-gif-4767609

[sick fern]

poe 1 is like that too but

only if you giga juice

I was getting like 4fps

with giga juicy abyss strat with wisps

[wary cedar]

i had like 30 fps in town in poe2

and on the levels about 100 but very unstable 100 with my gpu needing to go up to 100%

[rigid umbra]

Yeah a lot of people near you will do that

Poe1 is the same

[wary cedar]

le is also the only type of game from that genre i ever played, so i really have no clue about what's happening in game xd

[glass stag]

Is there anyway to build enough mana regen with T8 afflixes to sustain 4 shadows sync strike?

[little temple]

hail of arrow gloves holy

[fossil scroll]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgnmD3vQ
is this a thing still?

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Rogue (35) / Bladedancer (62) / Falconer (16)

General:

▸ Health: 2,801, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 289.51, Regen: 26/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 24 Dex / 4 Int / 4 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 129% / 79% / 75% / 117% / 76% / 89% / 132%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 560
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (306)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,278)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Shift / Shurikens / Synchronized Strike / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb

This build has a guide:

Aberroth Killer - The Ultimate Blade Dancer LE Build Guide by Max Pita

[wheat jungle]

Did heartseeker get nerfed? I don't see it on the tier list on max roll anymore

[midnight zealot]

Not nerfed still exactly the same as last season

[fossil scroll]

what about my thi8nk that i posted, what do u think, is it still workin good?

[wheat jungle]

I guess there's just too many builds to show all on a tier list then lol. Good problem to have

[wary cedar]

how would you improve heartseeker now with the new update for more dmg?

[midnight zealot]

you can't

truesight might be an idea but tbf i dont think it is really reliable

[wary cedar]

not even with a t8?

[midnight zealot]

i mean of course it'll be abit better but it wont be drastically different

it needs more base dmg to shine or at least some mechanics to help with damage scaling

that's why ppl wanted wildfire to be good

there is no point on using the primordial bow with it, it will never be better than puncture procs

[wary cedar]

so its just either t8 gloves or t8 quiver

[midnight zealot]

i guess x)

[fossil scroll]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgnmD3vQ DOES IT WORK?

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Rogue (35) / Bladedancer (62) / Falconer (16)

General:

▸ Health: 2,801, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 289.51, Regen: 26/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 24 Dex / 4 Int / 4 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 129% / 79% / 75% / 117% / 76% / 89% / 132%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 560
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (306)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,278)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Shift / Shurikens / Synchronized Strike / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb

This build has a guide:

Aberroth Killer - The Ultimate Blade Dancer LE Build Guide by Max Pita

[wary cedar]

not as good as other builds

[midnight zealot]

bladedancer need an overall, this is bad asf

only players who really want to play it are playing bladedancers, and there is like 2 builds kinda working

but that's it

one of the best is the shuriken low life that trikster did tbf

[wary cedar]

i also wish any sort of shadows cascade would be more viable

[midnight zealot]

HS is in b tier actually

[wheat jungle]

It seems I am just blind

[ember canopy]

can't believe such a good skill is just B

[humble socket]

warpath and erasing strike stil s tier? really? does acid flask falconer can comp'ete with these?

[midnight zealot]

it's not that good, it was overhyped last season cause brand new that's it

[ember canopy]

i'm doing it right now and I think it's amazing

[midnight zealot]

it's fun, but lack dmg

(you'll still be able to push really high corruption if you're playing from far killing ennemies before they hit you)

[ember canopy]

I think it lacks tankyness

[midnight zealot]

i pushed 2k5 last season and i could do more than that but i got bored

[ember canopy]

damn I would too

[wary cedar]

i also continue playing my hs build from last season now, there is no other class or build atm that i m that interested in, so i try to perfect this build

[terse bloom]

got for 1.4m lol

[zenith bridge]

have a video up, doesnt count as direct use, works exactly like gathering fury repeat. So no snapshot

[midnight zealot]

i feel like nothing's good for any masteries of the rogue x)

i'm kinda disappointed, and i dont feel like playing this season tbh, for now i have a warlock lvl 70 and i still need to reroll to lich but i don't really have fun playing x)

[terse bloom]

missed nec res

[frail bison]

hows falconer going @terse bloom

beeg deeps?

[humble socket]

why nobody's playing explosive trap acid flask? o,o it seems to be the best rogue build for now, but don't see anyone doing a guide for it o,o

[frail bison]

fubgun is playing it

[minor locust]

Can't you...play it youtself?

[frail bison]

i mean yeah it's really good but it's also basically the same build as detonating arrow traps (jelkors) and everyone played that in 1.0 already

[humble socket]

except not nerfed to ground o,o

[frail bison]

prob a lot of ppl want to play different builds they haven't already played

[frail bison]

i just mean it's old and boring basically

[night laurel]

Naah ... beastmaster is boring. 🤣

[frail bison]

minion class, they already lost

[humble socket]

i haven't seen a mapping showcase of bear earthquake yet, but it seems clunky af

[night laurel]

I also like minion builds. But in last epoch they don't feel good either. Hitting opponents to generate buffs for minions feels bad and boring.

[rugged pollen]

becuase it kinda requires build enabler

ala t7 throw cost rings

ppl tend to start with something else first then switch to it after getting the rings

[fossil scroll]

is there a blade dancer build for high corruption?

[frail bison]

acid flask smile

[fossil scroll]

i dont see a build with blade dancer for it xd

[ebon cypress]

Better than ballista Falconer ?

[frail bison]

https://youtu.be/U-hm5Xuuu-s

for monos im assuming you go lowlife somehow

architects primordial or something like that

[zenith bridge]

I think i found out how to play hydra efficient

[solid umbra]

i am, but still getting some parts sorted to be a "proper" build

[midnight zealot]

let us know cause right now i'm just afk looking at my screen wondering if i should stop now or swap to a rogue even if i don't know what to play anymore x)

[fossil scroll]

so shadow daggers are dead this season?

[rugged pollen]

[zenith bridge]

you can snapshot a bow skill for buffs, remove it from the skillbar and continue to use a cooldown or charge skill like hoa/DA

[midnight zealot]

gl to get somethig like that ready online tho .. x)

so basically we turn into abominations ? xD

[frail bison]

budget version kills in 50 seconds it's alright

https://youtu.be/OSTK6O_hWec without double t7s

but also that was 1.2, in 1.3 u have the wildfire wisp amulet which is super broken for single target

[midnight zealot]

thx for sharing, will wait to see you doing shenanigans on your youtube channel before trying myself, i'm to disappointed to theorycraft anything this season lol

[frail bison]

so i wager budget version still kills in 40 seconds with the primordial power creep 🤷‍♀️

[midnight zealot]

yeah maybe idk, you might be right, only downside is you wont be able to map with such a build tho

pretty sure you'll get os from everything x)

[frail bison]

different setup for mapping and bossing but explosive trap is very capable of mapping

this isn't meant to be a mapping setup so ofc you'll get one shot

but as i said above if you only do so much as put on the architects primordial your defenses are probably already in a comfortable spot

can put on red rings and invest more hp as desired

[midnight zealot]

idk, to me it seems like it is a really good bosser, but i'm afraid that mapping wouldn't be as i would like it to be

[frail bison]

i mean

just look up detonating arrow from 1.0 on youtube

it's the same build

i don't like to map with explosive trap cus traps are cringe so if you wanna vibe it and say it looks bad im down

but objectively it's a pretty decent mapper

iirc Juse was mapping with cold flask in 1.0 up to thousands of corruption

[midnight zealot]

yeah that's what i was referring to, i'm not a big enjoyer of throwing traps to map with

[frail bison]

ye that's just personal preference though

but same im not a fan

[hybrid marsh]

Hmm. Don't people go offline and just cheat to try new builds?

[midnight zealot]

alot of players do yes

i did it too last season to test some things with heartseeker, but i changed my computer since and don't want to reinstall everything x)

[hybrid marsh]

I wish it was built into the game for offline mode.

[midnight zealot]

yeah :/

[hybrid marsh]

Just console command stuff

[hot copper]

does melee attack speed affect throwing speed withg chakrams?

[midnight zealot]

i feel like they don't want to do it cause it'll for sure make some players play in offline instead of online jsut to test things when a new season realeses and then leave

[hybrid marsh]

Yea but those people can just pirate the game. Lol

So nothing changed

Except this way they still bought the game.

[midnight zealot]

i mean it's kinda boring to do, you really have to want to test it to do the step by step installation of the mod etc

[hybrid marsh]

I'm in the "waiting for trikster to show me aspirational build for cascade" waiting room.

So I can go chase until silksong drops

[midnight zealot]

i'm afk in the echo since this morning, level 69 haven't respec or anything yet cause i'm bored af x)

i'm not even having fun playing my warlock, so i'm here wondering if i should go heartseeker again even if i would have to go cold again knowing that i got bored playing it last season x)

[hybrid marsh]

Yea I rerolled mm to BD and been kinda stuck because I can't kill anything since I didn't pick up any weapons. So I really stalled at like 55

I log in and look at my character and come chill in discord

[midnight zealot]

my plan was to do a lich instead since we now know that they wont do anything for the wildfire during season 3

but i'm not even farming my gear to respec cause i know that i'll be bored playing it and atm my build isn't that good so i can't speedfarm either x)

[brittle sand]

what does end lineage do of a rift beast ? end it and next will be a fresh un tuned creature ?

[midnight zealot]

yes and it will give you the rewards you chosed when killing it

[brittle sand]

so if for one of my chars if it keeps 1 shotting me , find the lair , beat it ,, end the line and start over ,, hmm should have asked earlier ,

i kept adding power but my druid kept dying and it was 2 shotting my bear the whole time aswell , now i am playing a fire bomber flasker , hopefully i find the unique for my cold plans

[flint turret]

jesus the 10 primordial beast fight woven echo is messy

wanst the best idea to do it as the first thing after getting into empowereds

3 primo t8 for minions 3 for spell damage smh

and im not even a falconer

why am i not a falconer

[flint turret]

it also will have a longer lineage

and it will start dropping hearts eventually

at second or third

[zenith bridge]

Ragu now you can start cooking 🙂

You can snapshot mana generator skills with hydra bow for utility to buff other skills like hoa

[zenith bridge]

🤣

[novel grotto]

what is the best rogue build this season that is not to squishy

[rugged pollen]

i really want to play melee this time

but this

throw cascade ds still on the menu tho

[brittle sand]

darn those gloves are nice ,,

atm i only do 1200 dps at 14 ,, got lots of work to do , fire for now , was going for shurikens bleed , then i remembered falcon drops flasks too so ,,

[rugged pollen]

1200 dps at lv14 is massive dude

[brittle sand]

thats what 2 days of harvest did,, it did help that i put all THROW mods on field with a nice shining beacon of light so i could not MISS it

[flint turret]

but you said it doesnt work as direct attack

[brittle sand]

but i keep rerolling , 5 th char m last of the chars ,, was ..necro primelist mage paladin , the others havent even reached 30 yet ,, i kpet finding gear for OTHER classes

[zenith bridge]

everything ''direct use'' doesnt work. But Sapping Strikes/Mana Warp or Frenzy buff on Puncture say ''on use''

[flint turret]

weird

i already on my way to cascade so whatever really, maybe next time

[zenith bridge]

cascade feels good now with faster sync strike animation

[flint turret]

yeah but im still sd because im into like 30+ daggers and no tongue yet. i have like 5 smoke weavers and some of them are with lp

[potent arrow]

how often are u getting 1 shot Ragulol as cascade?

[terse bloom]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALJbXMWB

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (55)

General:

▸ Health: 3,544, Regen: 137.88/s
▸ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 212 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 99% / 82% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 709
▸ Dodge Chance: 66% (3183)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,904)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Umbral Blades / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[flint turret]

im not even cascade yet, but gameplay of sd bd is pretty much the same. Im not really getting one-shoted at 100 corr qith 1800 hp cap res and endurance, but im getting shotgunned sometimes

that primo woven echo with best fights was a pain, dies douple of times

[rugged pollen]

i wouldnt be surprise if ehg drop a patch adjusting the primebeast's DOT abilities

some of those hit way too hard and quick

[potent arrow]

if those rift beast get wrong evolves on that woven echo i always die

doesnt help that playing controller with shurikens is ass

[brittle sand]

its the fireball and wing AOE what does me on my primelist ,, now with rogue i got my ice converter off hand , so me happy , combined with a snowblind helm i can now aswell easier cast ballista and not worry about my mana, not sure if i need a cold booster weapon or put my stormclub back in. the +spell on throw attacks is just very nice

why does looking at level 100 persons and their gear always makes me , sad ,,

[zenith rivet]

@flint turret do you have a planner for your SD bd?

[flint turret]

its just for leveling

if tahts what you wanted import Ragulol\RagulCind

dam just realized that wildfire fiasco is engraved now in my character name

[zenith rivet]

lol

yeah , that exactly what i wanted. thanks 🙂

[flint turret]

uusually youd want pen with shadow daggen on body too but i dont have it

[zenith rivet]

i got a T6 sealed Shadow dagger pen from Nemesis at ~40 level

[flint turret]

WHAT

100 corr bro 1900 hp 75 res cap endu

[zenith rivet]

i did go for Puncture though and trying to figure the rest of the skill out

[flint turret]

wtf is this

[zenith rivet]

was it a normal melee of the slam?

[flint turret]

the one when he hits you with a claw

[brittle blaze]

Can acid flask kill ubberoth comfortably?

[north tree]

Damn didnt think sharing interactions with someone would make them claim they discovered on their own

[midnight zealot]

always like that, alot of ppl are claiming build theirs by just changing one node in passive tree x)

[rugged pollen]

if you take a concept from someone else, but then add some twist of your own that change the whole thing in someway(not just more offense - less defense kind of changes) you can still call it your own

in these days and times noone "invent" anything bro

[novel grotto]

if its litterally just 2 nodes or 1 item then no you cant call it your own

[north tree]

Oh im not doing a build im talking about a hydra bow. They're here and claiming they found out, but im just disappointed idc about cred but dont go around saying you discover it

[thin quartz]

what's the context of this. i got my popcorn ready

[flint turret]

for anyone interested a good way to farm hearts is to imprint beast fight woven echo, even tho the fight is pretty hard

[crimson latch]

Any uberroth viable ? Please don't Say falconer unless be Ballista My cold crit truesight heartseeker melts everything. But im too squishy

[stable anchor]

hail of arrows

[crimson latch]

What about mana stacking detonating arrow with the cd node ?

[crimson latch]

u.u

[stable anchor]

it’s pretty easy farmed up the gear and did it in like 4 days last season

[crimson latch]

And has changed something with the new t8 or primordial ítems?

[stable anchor]

it’s got really good tankiness for a rogue and among the highest non-falconer dps

you get the new bow, not for the repeats but it’s an insane stat stick

[gilded sequoia]

Anyone running ballista and find them not targeting some mobs like Spires?

[mental perch]

@zenith bridge how’s the HS build feel with wildfire???

Or did you not go that route

[zenith bridge]

I would really like to continue playing it. But since the wildfire prolif feels so bad i stopped for now. Playing Bladedancer atm

[mental perch]

Oh it does…….

I was hoping wild fire prolif felt good lol

[lusty wagon]

miam

[novel grotto]

rogue feels pretty underwhelming

[pastel timber]

trying to see if HS dragonsong + burning dagger + meteor could be a tech if we sustain enough mana

(mayeb with the new ring)

[mental perch]

meteor?

is there any world where multishot is sufficient these days lol

[mental perch]

oh the belt

[unique umbra]

did they change nemesis so the added affix is always sealed now?

[zenith rivet]

I havent paid any attention to it but i dont believe they did

[unique umbra]

they did find out though, "they found out from you" 😛

[north tree]

I honestly dont want to report the bugged interaction because marksman needs any win they can get.

[mental perch]

hydra bow seems troll tbh...

being limited by dashes kinda weird no?

[north tree]

It makes your evade a mana generator

Going to try and make a hs+ rain build with but honestly enjoying thorns too much

[stable anchor]

idk what they intend it to actually be used with because the best case for the repeats would be hail of arrows but you can’t use it with cd skills, it’s still bis for that build but purely as a statstick lmfao

[mental perch]

but you lose your entire weapon for that lol

idk seems weird

i want multishot to wrok

[north tree]

Highest flat base with dex skill level what its going to be used for

[stable anchor]

what are you going to use over it for HoA, most of the more multipliers are generic, it has 100 flat on it and +levels which HoA really wants

in theory you pair it with things like dark quiver and particularly crystalwind to set up a big combo, but again the skill that lends itself most to that is hail of arrows which has a cooldown

[north tree]

You snapshot a skill that can repeat withbmana warp/siphon the evade will generate 20ish mana.

Careful with crystal quiver the recast consumes the stacks.

I think 2nd strongest is going to be blast rain

[mental perch]

well i was going to do a igntie hoa build and use it to proc hoa's while zookming through maps....

[north tree]

Yeah sadly cant use hoa as the evade cast

[hybrid marsh]

anything cool happen in the chat? dont feel like scrolling

[mental perch]

wouldnt wildfire blast rain be kinda sick?

[sleek flax]

Depression bc wildfire embers either bugged or super dissapointing

[hybrid marsh]

also what does snapshotting mean

[mental perch]

the wisps are still useful, no? its just the prolif that sucks

[north tree]

Yeah i still want to try wisps for recast not ignite prolif

[hybrid marsh]

oooo trikster dropped new cascade video

[sleek flax]

Yeah i will try too even if it fails bc i have no backup

[mental perch]

i think they could be bonkers with blast rain

[north tree]

That or decoy. Never played blast rain but If it works with hydra bow then I think that one will be stronger

[mental perch]

idk how hydra bow is gonna help lol

[round crystal]

what is now meta on rouge, heartseeker is kinda squishy af

[mental perch]

feel like wisps are just going to be way better dmg and better qol

[north tree]

Evading with a skill costs no mana and with siphon/mana warp you gain mana

[mental perch]

i guess

[sleek flax]

I guess youre on the wrong class for ultra tanky builds, heartseeker was fine last cycle for 500 corruption tho

[mental perch]

and the +4 is nice

but, there isnt really many optiosn in blast rain to utilzie that many skills

[hybrid marsh]

"if you would like an aspirational planner..." yes please friend, whenever you have the time @zenith bridge in regards to the new video you put out for cascade

[round crystal]

just decent one, not like 40% evade and 20% amour every 4s

[hybrid marsh]

im going for the deep chase

[sleek flax]

every time I play rogue I end up pretty much with zHp but im fine with that, maybe someone else can help

[lusty wagon]

Best weavers tree pls guys

[mental perch]

haveyou even tried looking it up on youtube?

...

pls guys hold my hand

pls guys

[hybrid marsh]

people say worse/dumber things

[wispy kayak]

what level can i go ballista build

[lusty wagon]

angry guys i just want a good idea with mate rogue bruh

[mental perch]

want smoeone to change your diaper too?

[lusty wagon]

is mine actually

[lusty wagon]

suck a clown and chill with him 🤡

[mental perch]

huehuehuehue

[flint turret]

im lvl 8 cof, 84 lvl, all favor is going into dagger and ive yet to see a first tongue, ridiculos

and ascendacncy runes too

ive had like 5+ reens and smoke and some are with LP but no tongue

[lusty wagon]

what is this bug? @terse bloom I CANNOT moove

[lusty wagon]

😮

[wispy kayak]

thats why im going MG just buy my ballista gear

[lusty wagon]

the bug mooving?

[wispy kayak]

?

[lusty wagon]

mbmb i thinks u say this because u have same bug with falco

[terse bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvOP_hqw_c8&ab_channel=Juse

t4 julra

[wispy kayak]

I am noticing weird stuff. With umbral blades held down i can't cast Airel Assualt, and its clunky

can't wait to swap to ballista build

[night laurel]

I hate smok bomb.😅 I'll take ballista into the build and see how well it works.

[regal willow]

Any of the new primos r good for icicle heart seeker?

[flint turret]

Amulet or flat crit body look good

[sleek flax]

I like the crit body armor, 30% less damage from first mob hit sounds very usefull too

[flint turret]

Yeah and there are lots of good idols for hs

[rugged pollen]

bro these rift beasts are nightmare for melee builds kekw

dot pool covered half 3/4 of the fking screen

[flint turret]

pog

still no tongue tho kekw

[unreal dune]

So really weird build idea... Det arrow with Jhelkors and also heartseeker with Ravagers dart...

[next gale]

The more I use flay, the more I feel like they made a BD skill, but decided to put it on Acolyte for some reason.

[upper river]

Is there a particular build that works well on low gear? What Im doing isn't great with what I have. My previous characters in other leagues have felt way better than this one in terms of damage.

Currently some sort of Cinder Strike Marksman

[rugged pollen]

shadow dagger

[glossy silo]

isnt falconner better at low gear ?

[crimson latch]

im gonna swap from crit cold truesigh HS to ballista u.u, i hope someday we have a good heartseeker build

[rugged pollen]

you can play shadow dagger as falc

no problemo

[upper river]

got a guide?

There aren't any up to date falconers on lastepochtools

dunno about elsewhere

[flint turret]

getting trolld hard. 86 lvl not a singlt tongue on cof

[crimson latch]

r and trik so BD is like on A tier? or something? maybe uber viable?

[fossil scroll]

this katana is sexy

[crimson latch]

im not gonna surrender guys

im gonan fcking min max and try everything i could to make HS great :v

[flint turret]

Hs already was pretty great

[woeful mason]

have you guys tried hs with deadly strikes yet?

[wispy kayak]

does the ballista build need insane gear or something

[upper river]

ah this is awful. Constantly out of mana with this new build

nearly unplayable

[stable anchor]

no, you go mourningfrosts and you literally fart out a billion damage, the only gear that you really need is mana regen

experimental minions teleported on boots will also smoothen the build out considerably but they’re not necessary at all

or with the champion mod on a ring i suppose, but eventually you want phantom grips

[wispy kayak]

how about the bow

[fossil scroll]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/h6g6d0qs#2

this looks jucy

[lusty wagon]

the t7 dosnt exist now right?

[ebon python]

Is a multishot marksman build from 1.2 likely still fine?

[crimson latch]

yes but at maxroll is tier C :'c

[trim dawn]

am i happy with this one

[crimson latch]

omg

[cosmic briar]

meh

even on mg cant find fodder for slamming my rings

[crimson latch]

the temporal key should be auto-looted xd

[lusty wagon]

this combo

[wispy kayak]

oof going blalist at level 60 was a huge mistake. killing 100x slower than umbral

guess my toon is bricked i rather not re-do it. poe2 time

also out of gold/favor and can't kill anything 😄

[silent relic]

Another hotfix with no fix on wildfire

[wispy kayak]

too easy to brick chars in this game

[crimson latch]

xd

well, im going ballista

[woeful mason]

Can anybody please help, I left my item in the eternity cache in temp sanctum and ran out of keys to go back in 🙁

[stable anchor]

it's pretty much impossible to truly brick a character beyond the point of recovery. what does your build look like? ballista does super high damage on very little gear, the hardest part is sustaining the mana

[wispy kayak]

i do around 1/100th the dmg of the leveling build after swapping to ballista build

[stable anchor]

also most of the uniques for that build are among the most common uniques for their respective item types

[wispy kayak]

i only have unique bow/quiver so far

and i run out of mana in 5 seconds

biggest mistak ei think ive made in any arpg lol

[stable anchor]

mourningfrost is the most important piece for damage. it's a very common unique, should be quite easy to get

[wispy kayak]

well im out of gold now and i can't kill anything

[stable anchor]

if you want to drop a planner i'd be happy to take a look

[wispy kayak]

so its a RIP

[stable anchor]

are you playing MG?

[wispy kayak]

ya

its over

gonna try that new morater build in poe2 next week

morter/turret

[stable anchor]

send a planner with your current gear, let's see what we can do

if you're a more casual player it's generally recommended to go COF, you have to be pretty tapped in to the market etc to make MG more appealing, especially if you play a more meta build

[wispy kayak]

no i face roll poe2

i just bricked my rogue in LE

at lvl 59

i didn't know it was only a high lvl high gear build

[stable anchor]

i'm not implying that you're bad at the game, simply that you need to be playing quite a lot and be very aware of what's in demand to make MG the more lucrative option

[wispy kayak]

i had a few gold caps last season on mage

[stable anchor]

it's not, i'm sure you can make it work with what you have, and most of the uniques for that build are very easy to obtain

[wispy kayak]

i just dind't get stuck at low lvl b4

yeah ub ti can't even kill white mobs atm

and have 0 gold 0 favor

it looks like a gg

[stable anchor]

like i said, happy to help you get back on track, but it's really sounding like you don't want help

[wispy kayak]

i dont know hwo to make a planner

[stable anchor]

go to lastepochtools.com
hit import on the right hand side of the menu
type in your account and character name
hit save/share

copy the link that it spits out

[wispy kayak]

ok

[haughty veldt]

anybody playing balista build rn&

?

[night laurel]

I use the planner from juse. Without smoke bomb but ballista. Falcons all on more dmg and bleed stacks.

[haughty veldt]

i cant scale my balistas damage smh

if anybody expirienced could help would be great

[stable anchor]

dex, then int are the most important stats

[night laurel]

At ballista you can also skill that get the stats from your ailments. The penetration of the new dagger then also go on the ballista.

[stable anchor]

the most high priority uniques are mourningfrosts, the bow, and phantom grips. these are all easy to obtain

[haughty veldt]

dont know where to get em

[stable anchor]

dexterity and intelligence you mean?

[haughty veldt]

i have them

[haughty veldt]

i dont see how it impacts my dmg

[stable anchor]

can roll on rings, gloves, helmet, body armor, quiver, boots and relic. you ideally want it in all these slots except boots

okay so

[haughty veldt]

since i no more more have umbral blades with freeze effects

[haughty veldt]

i cant forge on uniqes

[stable anchor]

dex =
1 flat damage from mourningfrosts. ballista inherits this. this is the most important part, and the reason why dex is so high priority.

4% increased damage for ballista

and placement speed and ballista attack speed through the agile engineering node.

[stable anchor]

do you know how the legendary potential system works?

[haughty veldt]

u have to kill the boss or smthng and then u get get another affix from another weapon

[stable anchor]

int is 1% more damage per int via the tactician node in aerial assault, so still very good, but like i said, lower priority than dex

[stable anchor]

correct, and you need the unique to have legendary potential. it will add one affix of your choice and then if you have multiple lp the remaining affixes are selected randomly

you will use non-unique gloves for most of the game, and this is a good place to get both of these stats

[haughty veldt]

well the problem is i dont scale since lvl 70

im 81 rn

[stable anchor]

boneclamor barbrute will also give you up to 13 of each, which is why it's so high value, but it's harder to obtain than the other uniques i mentioned previously

drop a link to your gear. are you playing cof or mg?

[haughty veldt]

no clue

im new

3 days into the game

[stable anchor]

circle of fortune or merchants guild

you should have had a choice a bit into act 9 of the campaign

[haughty veldt]

merchants

im lvl 7

[stable anchor]

this admittedly makes it more challenging. how much gold do you have to work with?

[haughty veldt]

300k

[stable anchor]

admittedly i don't play mg so i'm not super aware of gold prices but based on your description that should be enough to afford at least a few improvements

[haughty veldt]

where i can see my account name&

?

[stable anchor]

if you have all the uniques at 0lp i'd be looking for ideally 2 1lp phantom grips first

uhh

i'm actually not sure i know lol, one sec

ah right

[haughty veldt]

i got it

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALJjGz1B

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 81

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (21) / Marksman (19) / Falconer (54)

General:

▸ Health: 1,076, Regen: 47.89/s
▸ Mana: 130.03, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 65%, Regen: 30/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 63 Dex / 30 Int / 2 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 1% / -3% / 1% / 6% / 0% / 83% / 54%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 22%, Threshold: 215
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (440)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (509)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 7%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Ballista / Aerial Assault / Smoke Bomb / Falconry / Decoy

[stable anchor]

okay, you have most all the uniques, this is a good start

do you have more copies of any of these uniques than the ones you have equipped?

and do any of these have legendary potential? that information doesn't show in the planner

[haughty veldt]

a bow

with 1 lp

but lower stats

none have lps

[stable anchor]

that's fine. do you have an exalted with flat bow damage on it at t6 or t7? physical would be ideal, but any damage type is fine

[haughty veldt]

ah man

let me see

[wispy kayak]

okay i got the boots now im kickin ass

shoulda got those first

[haughty veldt]

i can buy one i quess

with flat damage

on affix

[stable anchor]

even t6 is fine, should be fairly cheap.

like i say, bow physical damage is ideal, but any "bow _ damage" will work for where you're at

[haughty veldt]

• 60 bow damage

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1408997384742240359

im here btw

[stable anchor]

sorry i'm on the road. but you want to go to the temporal sanctum and kill julra at tier 2, then combine your 1lp bow with the exalted. make sure you choose the exalted affix

make sure you're looking at bow flat damage and not %increased bow damage

i believe t7 goes up to 49

your ballista will get this flat damage so up to 49 will go a long way, but even a min rolled t6 is 28 and that will still help a lot

[haughty veldt]

can forge to t5

[stable anchor]

you want a t6 or t7, you'll probably have to buy it, but a t6 shouldn't be too expensive and it'll be worth it long term

like i say, if phys is too expensive even flat void will help a lot

[haughty veldt]

im looking for prefix

right&

?

i ll be in 5 mins

[stable anchor]

yep

[feral ember]

How’s bladedancer feeling this season? Looking at max rolll doesn’t seem like it’s doing amazingly but don’t want to just blindly trust that

[stable anchor]

on the whole probably the weakest class, but there's still a couple decent builds. the unfortunate thing about bd is that most bd builds play the same and falconer does most things bd does better, even after 3 seasons of nerfs

[feral ember]

Yeah thought so, man no matter the arpg the “assassin” class always ends up being the weakest 😭

[stable anchor]

falconer can still pretty much do the assassin thing and do it very well lol

[haughty veldt]

im here

[stable anchor]

and like i say, there's a couple solid builds, it's not like it's trash tier or anything at least

[haughty veldt]

t6

[stable anchor]

if you mean in voice call i'm in the car rn so unfortunately through chat is the only way i can help

t6 bow flat phys is fine

combine that with your 1lp bow and you'll feel a lot better already

past that, look for 1lp copies of all of your uniques and repeat that process. egg of the forgotten from the nemesis can help you get 1lp+ for your items

eventually you want t7 and multiple LPs but even 1 T6 on each to start will go a long way

[haughty veldt]

how do i get ther

[stable anchor]

from the shining cove in the imperial era

there's an npc in oracle's abode in imperial era that gives you a side quest for it

you'll have to do the dungeon at tier 1 before you can do tier 2, don't slam your item at tier 1 as it won't let you choose the affix

[haughty veldt]

okay

so i just run t1

first

and second attempt t2

[stable anchor]

yup

and then at t2 you combine the 2 at the machine at the end

[haughty veldt]

very greatfull

[stable anchor]

once you have your bow with the flat physical damage on it, try that in monos and see how it feels. should be a substantial damage upgrade

then you're looking to find uniques with lp and exalts with the t7 shown in the build guide, and you repeat that process. especially when you're going from 0lp to 1 even with the right t6 you'll feel a pretty chunky power jump each time

[rain fox]

feels clunky and underwhelming compared to other builds. Spellblade looks to be a better "melee" rogue really.

[crimson latch]

idk but i think the game is harder now, i gott one shot everysingle mono xd

[rigid umbra]

You are playing ballista

You have no defense

[warm ridge]

Okay I think there is some dark technology possible with rogue/falconer using "Harmony of the First" and only using like 1-2 uniques and otherwise stacking magic items

using flurry for single target and shift for aoe

wait maybe not on those skills

but Im cooking with gas here

[solid umbra]

i missed health .... guess what build 😛

[solid umbra]

define weakest

[pastel timber]

Marksman is the new caster

[solid umbra]

because if you mean "brainless killing bosses while standing in fire" that was never assassin

[solid umbra]

been one for a while

[pastel timber]

with the new primoridal ring and foot of mountain you can perma cast meteor (from harbinger belt) + dragonsong + burning dagger

[midnight zealot]

it seems like your mana isn't going back up in this gif tho

and playing a marksman that needs to stand still to do dmg doesn't seems like a good idea if you wanna stay alive unfortunately x)

[pastel timber]

you only need to be above 0 to cast the meteor

[pastel timber]

maybe yes but with this, maybe we can cook something

60% endurance on 3k HP (thanks to endurance threshold) + 1k ward could be something to try

[midnight zealot]

idk, maybe you will be able to do something fun, but in the end i think that's all it will be, i feel like you wouldn't be able to do high corruption with something like that, unfortunately you'll face mana problems and never been a fan of foot of the mountain on a mm

[solid umbra]

how you gonna scale damage tho

[pastel timber]

it's not designed for high corruption, it's more oritented solo targeting like bossing

[midnight zealot]

last season i tried 4.5k hp and 60% endurance and was getting one shoted anyway, so got back to full glass canon x)

[midnight zealot]

there is no way you're able to boss with that

you will lose your stacks of mountain too easily and wont be really able to stack these without taking a big hit that will one shot you

you're only hope maybe would be to get a shit ton of dodge

[pastel timber]

meteor and dragonsong are the 2 most powerfull spell regarding Added damage effectiveness (950% and 900%)

[pastel timber]

yeah they have powerful slam

[clever gulch]

Does everyone have such a problem that the ballasts don't shoot at the spires?

[thin quartz]

Those number means nothing because you dont scale spell damage

[fallen junco]

Is ballista not working on spires a known issue?

[cloud plover]

Is there a good Marksman build this season? Currently running Heartseeker and it is doing alright. Sadly no use for any of the Primal Uniques except maybe the Bleed gloves once I drop them.

[topaz forge]

How is shadow cascade/umbral bladedancer?

[cloud plover]

Also is bleed better single target DPS than icicle? Feel like I'm lacking boss dps with ice. Would switching to bleed help??

[thin quartz]

are you using MourningFrost boots?
im gonna assume you're not. and you're not stacking dex as you should if you're playing crit cold hs

[cloud plover]

Definitely using those boots and trying to stack dex.

[sage canyon]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/1l6920gl#1 bd ds/sc kill on budget(outside of 3lp boulderfist)

[thin quartz]

what's your current dex at

[sleek flax]

I did cold Heartseeker last Cycle and could farm regular Abberoth comfortably but only with good gear. I think the primordial chest with +crit would be an ok fit but your right no primordial is really utra amazing for it

[eager mason]

holy sync feels so fast now

cant wait for 1.4 bd changes

[midnight zealot]

you should be able to do alot more than just farming normal abby with it tbf, now uberroth on the other hand is something else, you have to dodge every attacks to kill him x)

[thin quartz]

chest??

[sleek flax]

yeah the one with +crit, less damage taken from first mob hit, double idol effect looks really solid

[sleek flax]

idk I have 2 left hands so i need to burst abberoth in 10s or ill loose. also I only play for like a week max so my gear was good but not gg

[thin quartz]

crit ammy seems to be better tho

[midnight zealot]

i was doing full cold dmg with elecoe's innovation and went to 2.5k corruption, i think i would have been able to reach 3k but got bored and stopped playing, tbf it should be the same this season since nothing changed, but single target dps will always be kinda low, our only chance to get single target ramping up was the hope of going ignite with the wildfire amulet, but it's not happening anymore

[sleek flax]

i mean yeah it does look good too but the amulet slot is also contested with other good options and juicing more crit is an investment too

i dont think any of the primordials are giga juicy for heartseeker

[thin quartz]

the only contest is Nihilis, and yeah, nothing else benefit HS. either go for the ammy or get T8 somewhere

[cloud plover]

Butchers crown seems kinda lit honestly. Sadly had to switch in Drelkors for now. Not entirely sure how else to sustain mana.

[sage canyon]

ikr did u see my kill its like 2000x easier this season, low life chest is insane and dancing/sync feel much better too

[eager mason]

havent seen it

but yeah bd is actually so much better this season still not at top lvl but at least feels good to play

[sage canyon]

#🔪┃rogue message here, maybe you can find upgrades. I think LL chest is too giga and i went boulder fist+siphon instead of boots+falcon fist cause for some reason even though i am crit capped i kep leeching WITH equipped peak of the mountain from the ring

i think its a bug

new boots are insane for cascade 50% more dmg vs high life+ cascades 90% more dmg vs low life

so they compliment each other

i think it deserves S tier this patch, damage is great tankiness is great, sure its not abomination lvl but its way above 99.9% of the builds

for example between erasing strike and new cascade i would play cascade any day

especially with double t7 budget you just permastun uber xdd

[eager mason]

yeah your damage looks insane on vid

was the ward regen enough

I wasnt sure if I should add ward on shadow creation to my planner

[sage canyon]

yess!!! t7 gloves+armor is all u need no ward retention even imo

no ward on shadow full dmg

xdd

[upbeat ferry]

Can you link the video? Sounds interesting

[eager mason]

I guess you dont have enough points for perfection on this setup

[sage canyon]

its couple msges above

[eager mason]

since you need to click flow and stuff

[sage canyon]

i was thinking abt it , cause i can lose 5 pts in attack speed node and 3 pts in shred

[eager mason]

might be on offline thing, I wasnt having problems on online

[sage canyon]

but i have like 1200% inc dmg so i thought its pointless

[eager mason]

unless its the relic implicit

[sage canyon]

so online it works 100%? i can just run peak+ring?

[sage canyon]

nah it was leech, slow regen without hitting anything to full hp

[eager mason]

yeah I lvled my second character with cascade

[zenith bridge]

This is the thing i was worried about with siphon and peak

[sage canyon]

hmmm so i can still go falcon fists tempting, but stun chance is actually insane on this build

[eager mason]

let me test again to be sure

[sage canyon]

perma stun uber more armor and more hp

[zenith bridge]

But probably the leech comes from sync strike when you dont reach crit cap with it since SC is 10% base

[sage canyon]

ye i even made sure that all my skills are crit capped not just cascade who has higher base crit

probably offline bug

[zenith bridge]

Man shadow cascade is so versatile with the gear

I want to test truesight i want to test new dagger...

Life vs low life

[sage canyon]

i really like it compared to last patch just feels so much better

especially the boots

hooly mapping with them

[upbeat ferry]

Am I blind or something? I just see your planner lol

[sage canyon]

just boom boom oneshot everything

[zenith bridge]

The boots have insane synergy with low health node in sc tree

[eager mason]

yeah Im not leeching

[sage canyon]

im sorry i accidently linked planner not vid here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFPenSr_x5k

[zenith bridge]

Potato can you explain to me the rotation you do with Wave of Darkness node in sync strike?

[sage canyon]

ok poggg hmm, i still think boulderfist is too good and bettr than falcon since we lack armor and stun chance is uge

[eager mason]

leech shrines are also pretty annoying

[zenith bridge]

I saw you doing only sync into ahift without tapping SC

[eager mason]

left a suggestion to make right click cancel shrine buffs

[eager mason]

uuh it was mostly sync sync shift

[sage canyon]

i try to never pick them up cause i hate when phoenix spawns and shits over my screen

[zenith bridge]

Boulderfist you say...hmmm the stun is actually already strong thats true

[upbeat ferry]

No worries Thanks. I might just play that bladedancer, I found I didn't enjoy lich even though flay can do so much

[zenith bridge]

We almost have the same planners misha

[sage canyon]

the kill is still a bit annoying on BD cause of animations but if you get double t7 weapons it trivializes the fight to seconds cause you one phase uber on each stage almost

[eager mason]

I think wave of darkness felt pretty comfy to play

[upbeat ferry]

That's hilarious. I can deal with that, I just found I'm really not an acolyte enjoyer no matter what they change

[zenith bridge]

I saw three different playstyle combos now. Your sync into shift potato, my sync shift sync SC, and the dancing combo

[sage canyon]

or you can get more hp with better gear and just not care LL dr+dancing strike arena and capped dodge is actually insane tankiness if you have like 6-7k ward

send yours trickester

[upbeat ferry]

I love low life so sounds great

[sage canyon]

new chest is insane and i think its not hard to get this season? is it in the shop?

[zenith bridge]

Uploaded it in community builds maxroll

[upbeat ferry]

Yes it's a shop item

[sage canyon]

okk lemme vote xdd

[zenith bridge]

Yep alrdy bought it with 1lp

[upbeat ferry]

I was gonna use it on my bleed flay build

[sage canyon]

that makes it actually huge cause u can deterministically get it while gearing up

[upbeat ferry]

Ez to get just a few hearts feathers and bones

[sage canyon]

ye LL is 100% playable with 0 retention+just chest

[upbeat ferry]

Mhm it's nuts

[sage canyon]

t7 gloves are very nice later on

[zenith bridge]

I only have pearl of swine instead of nihilis for now as easy starter amu before abby. But aspirational i also add some new stuff

[upbeat ferry]

So much ward generation

[eager mason]

yeah I was doing yours on my life kill

than tesla(the other guy that got cascade kill) told me he does this

felt easier to play

[zenith bridge]

Potato & misha: apostacy yes or no? I kinda like the idea for it since we play close combat to get additional dr. With dancing strike combo probably not since we add lot of dodge.

[upbeat ferry]

anyway, build yoinked time to play a Bladedancer and hide away my Lich

[eager mason]

oh the glancing blow node

idk I dont really like that node in general

like if you are not dodging you dont have perfection either

so idk

you also lose concentration

[sage canyon]

you really need levels, why not just use minion amulet on budget its insane

+2 lvls all res, stats, easy 2lp

better than pearls imo

[eager mason]

told you its broken

[sage canyon]

yepp xdd

[eager mason]

he is talking about this node not the amulet

[sage canyon]

ooh

hmm

i think its only worht on dancing strikes cause you get so much dr from arena and easy dodge capped

but on other variations better to get 70% dodge+high ward

and even on dancing i prefer playing with capped dodge, especially with DS node that gives % dodge per stack

[eager mason]

I can see it on like uber tho

[zenith bridge]

but i agree, this amulet is good addition for extra levels early on.

[sage canyon]

only on mega budget where u are below 5k ward i think

[sage canyon]

hmm i checked your planner i noticed u dont go for meditation on marksman, imo its huge, also imo remove 2 1x3 idols and go full 2x1 with phys pen+melee dmg, i yoinked it from potato last season and doubled my dmg, idols are insane

you can test dps with your setup but more dps idols

[eager mason]

and I yoinked it from tesla xddBusiness

[sage canyon]

xddd

FULL YOINK

btw hows is your mana guys? i noticed that i spend more mana just holding sync+shift

than dancing+sync+shift

which doesnt make sense to me

😅

from my testing i needed nihi+double t7 mana regen+t5 efficiency+1 idol efficiency to fully sustain, but onbviosly in real fight its much easier than on dummy cause you cant dps all the time

[eager mason]

mine felt fine last season let me check

[sage canyon]

ye mine was also fine so im thinking maybe they sped up sync strike or maybe im completely cooked

[regal willow]

any updated icicle heartseeker build guide n filter? im lvl 92 but tryna setup the final stuff to the current season

[zenith bridge]

im adjusting abit, the idol change i do because hp is already enough and small idols have insane value yea

[eager mason]

I had extra shift cdr from smoke weaver and doom boots so might have been it

[sage canyon]

i talked with volca we agreed that bleed is the best on heartseeker now with new gloves cause bleed was most single target dmg and bleed pop gloves adds clear speed. But i heard gloves are bugged and pop around YOU not enemy, so the build needs a lot of cooking and checking

[eager mason]

but yeah since your sync is faster maybe you spend more mana now

[sage canyon]

i forgot patch notes did they actually speed it up

[eager mason]

yeah

and you got 20% attack speed from dual wield

[sage canyon]

i need to do calculations so that i fit in just the right amount of dancing strikes within 1 cd of sync strike

fml

[keen snow]

I think I read that CDR for dancing strikes is still constrained by animation speed even though it's faster now

[sage canyon]

yess

it is

but you can pick less distance node to speed up

so need to check if i need 0/1/2/3 pts

the uber kill was with 2

[regal willow]

so far im enjoying the frost one since last season ngl

shurikens water bubbles and icicles still rock but idk i may change when it falls off

[sage canyon]

also whats wave of darkness?

🤔

[sage canyon]

oh the node that we both use

isnt it just more dmg cause you dont waste time self casting?

🤔

with self cast you dont get a lot of increases from shadow afffixes

so even though u do 1 more cascade not sure if its worth

[eager mason]

you can also click shadow from smoke bomb

lol they blocked the word you do with this node I cant type it

[sage canyon]

i use that node but dont use smoke bomb cause technically its bug abusing(game feature) xddd

[humble socket]

can you switch early to acid flask + explosive trapo wîth rogue leveling? (im currently lvl 35, but i've access to merchants guild)

[sage canyon]

same reason i dont take cascade proc on dancing strikes

[sage canyon]

you literally can play it with no gear and vendor gear, just play as marksman and when you get primordial mana cost affix switch to falconer

check maxroll guide we expalined it there, build is playable with nothing if you use cinder strike as mana generator with bow on no gear

[humble socket]

oh, nice

[sage canyon]

u need to respec but its not expensive

[sage canyon]

julra rings are also great option on budget

[eager mason]

yo

this one is rare right

[sage canyon]

yess

very nice rolls too

[flint turret]

Yeah my looked almost the same too. #🔪┃rogue message
Also I got stun blessing from Lagon and it seems nice tbh

[sage canyon]

i thought abt stun blessing but mana seems really nice in uber fight especially

sometimes you really dont want to press shift

xddd

[humble socket]

where the mana come from cinder strike?

[hearty sluice]

any idea if Birds Aren't Real is bugged, cuz when i have it Divebomb doesnt send shadow falcons at my shadows with the On wings of shadows passive, when i remove it all is fine

[flint turret]

Well, I got it offered almost max roll on the first kill and don't have mana yet, so I'm not complaining really

[sage canyon]

its 0 cost, the base rogue passive makes it generate and marksman also has passive that makes it generate mana

[humble socket]

oooh i see thanks

[sage canyon]

also i finally killed him on budget xddd in this season but still

[flint turret]

Also I want to get weaver gloves for this build but on cof it's tricky

[sage canyon]

this patch took like 100x less attempts compared to last patch

new boots/body armor=instant +3 tiers to the build and animation buff

actually meta build now imo

[flint turret]

Nice. I haven't even transitioned into cascade yet sadly. Still sd. I've got 6+reens and smokes and half of them are lp and not a single tongue yet. Also I'm not playing that much

Yeah sync animation looks much better

But I still don't wanna use dancing

[sage canyon]

dancing got buffed too xddd its now like 0.26 sec

but honestly im not sure if it was even effective, i did take 2pts into shorter jump and seems like im doing everything faster than last season and more dps

[zenith bridge]

but its true that dancing caps at 50% or is it worth investing more into attack speed/cdr?

[sage canyon]

wdym caps? its gated behind animation duration

[zenith bridge]

i didnt feel a difference with 116 attack speed + 40cdr

[sage canyon]

ah ye well cause animation doesnt scale well

[zenith bridge]

i only saw a reddit post couple days ago

[sage canyon]

overall my dummy kill on same budget went from 21-23 sec to 16-17

[flint turret]

Huge

[south wyvern]

hey! is it possible to use the Falconer mastery but not play a trap or ballista build?

[flint turret]

Depends if someone is pointing a gun at you

[south wyvern]

XDD

i mean would it be viable at end game? or is there like a build for such a thing i can follow?

i dont like the idea of ballista and traps, just trying to create an archer fantasy with the falconeer as well

[flint turret]

Depends on what you consider endgame. But shadow daggers, minion dive, crit umbrals are all viable

[sage canyon]

ill try to cook falconer with the more dot dmg node since its still uncapped

[flint turret]

Bleed too

[south wyvern]

yeah like a bleed chance trap-free falconer

[sage canyon]

like what if we go jesper staff with t7 stun chance, stack up 2000%ignite chance, convert it to bleed with new gloves and just pawn uber in 1-2 pops

🤔

[flint turret]

Sadly falcon doesn't want to have anything with ignite

[sage canyon]

ye but with gloves

we convert

😏

[south wyvern]

or a crit falconer with the "falcon gains part of ur crit chance"

[flint turret]

Yeah I know, I'm just saying in general

[sage canyon]

crit falconer is in shambles 4 min uber kill

xdd

for once bird players will learn that uber has more than 2 moves

[flint turret]

I also wonder if it's possible to boost bleed amount from dive itself with stun chance for it to be viable at clearing

[sage canyon]

with new gloves itll be viable just due to sheer amount of bleed stacks not even counting stun chance imo

u get 4 blessings+weapon+gloves

insane

[flint turret]

But how much damage it will deal actually

[sage canyon]

ill try to cook man my schedule is fcked, we were cooking with maxroll builds since patchnotes dropped waking up at 5 am calling

[flint turret]

Dam Im already too old i guess

[sage canyon]

and i still have 4 builds in backlog to finish

at least we done with mana flay, its 90 mil dps on budget sub 1 min kil on uber

#balanced and totally not expected when ehg put 2 uncapped mana scaling on 1 skill

tho initially i thought it would be unplaybale unless double t7 everywhere

also anyone else here are enjoyers of BEE idols on acid flask?

its actually really good in monos

[eager mason]

smk was doing it I think

[flint turret]

I've seen someone mentioning it I'm pretty sure

[stable nacelle]

anybody kill uberroth on 1.3 already?

[eager mason]

yep

[sage canyon]

ye i saw with smk and seems insane in monos

for just 1 idol and you can get it with ele res suffix so not even losing that much dps

[halcyon bone]

Bee idols?

[zenith bridge]

i also cant keep deaths door up because im constantly leeching with siphon/peak and 100%crit

[sage canyon]

yepp its a bug men

[halcyon bone]

Acid flask enjoyer listening...

[sage canyon]

potat tested online its ok there

[sage canyon]

yes 1 bee idol is huge!

[zenith bridge]

so switching to boulders should fix it? Or @eager mason how did you solve the problem?

[zenith bridge]

im always online

[sage canyon]

what hmm

ye boulderfists fix all issues

are u sure u crit capped?

[zenith bridge]

i dont see a single white number except some bleed ticks from sync strike crimson buff

even have 10 stacks of crit vuln on enemy

[rugged pollen]

Just use xithara

[zenith bridge]

so boulder should be the go to, maybe i oversee a mechanic though

[rugged pollen]

4head

[south wyvern]

the falcon is considered a minion right?

[potent arrow]

it has the minion tag

[eager mason]

idk your profile looks normal

[pine hatch]

@sage canyon nice kill on LL bd

Um quick question so they didn't nerf tornado shaman?

Wat

[stable nacelle]

whats smk

[pine hatch]

That's me

[stable nacelle]

what are u

[pine hatch]

Solo mid king

[stable nacelle]

hahaha

[eager mason]

holy smk lore

[pine hatch]

yeh I play solo mid only

Used to play HON for 7-8tears

Years

[sage canyon]

solo bee king

rename to SBK

[stable nacelle]

is balista still best build for uber?

[pine hatch]

So tell me

They didn't nerf that build right

[eager mason]

looks like it xdd

[pine hatch]

Fuk