🔪┃rogue

[hybrid marsh]

Lmao

[cloud pendant]

well, yes, but i cant find the nerfs

"Arrow Traps chain detonations can now only release Detonating Arrows up to 10 times per 2 seconds (from no limit). This does not limit detonations, only whether those detonations release Detonating Arrows. "

never mind

[rigid latch]

wanna play rogue this season, is there a build that can clear monos but also is able to kill uberroth?

[flint turret]

Also manacost increased

[cloud pendant]

thats what i remembered as well, which i figured is fixable with the new primordial helmet

but since the deton arrow is capped, is dead either way

[hybrid marsh]

Looks like ive got an hour to lock into a build.

[cloud pendant]

or at least, not really worth it

[hybrid marsh]

Nobody cooking with BBC?

What happened to that build.

[bold brook]

i think maxroll still has it up

[spare aurora]

acid flask stuff lookin pretty cool, but generator looks terrible, pretty sure im not going for it until i can do falconeer

[glad fox]

BBC?

[hybrid marsh]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsGZwTiA

[rigid latch]

any 1.3 falconer builds?

[hybrid marsh]

Someone put the build up on maxroll. It's mm into falconer on gear acquisition

[spare aurora]

ye, but the mm gameplay sounds very annoying having to generate mana for it tbh

[placid flame]

how will the ballista build be in comparison to warpath dmg wise? bit tired of vk after last patch.

[novel rune]

@flint turret have you locked in

[flint turret]

I'm locked into melee cinder. How it will end up I have no idea

[zenith rivet]

tried that on season 1 and it did work out at all, hope you have better luck than me 🙂

[flint turret]

I expect it to go to 1k corr but I doubt I'll do Uber with it

[crude sigil]

im gonna do acid flask. seems bad for corruption. but gotta go fast type shit

[flint turret]

If it wasn't for new ammy I wouldn't even try

I'll try to level up with cinder as well, and I expect it to be terrible

[zenith rivet]

i did mess around with the CS planner for S3 as well but im not sure if it will work or if it will be any good

Cinder is quite strong early on in the game

[flint turret]

I really doubt its anywhere near sd which I'm pretty used to

[zenith rivet]

not by a long shot but its fun

and thats what counts, right?

[flint turret]

And there are no early ignite sources outside of uniques that you need to be lucky to get because I won't even be able to convert bleed without gloves

Dunno, hopefully

[little temple]

hey guys is the new heartseeker ignite thing looking good ?, just the damage

[bitter oar]

do you have a planner for that? played it on release and was fun

[flint turret]

I have 2 so far

[novel rune]

oohh

[bitter oar]

do you mind linking? not like theres a ton of options but curious what you have

[flint turret]

3

yeah give me a min

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/so7180qr
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/1989w0g4
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/3uapl0qa

also i have an idea of cinder into LM but i havent made a planner yet

like i said i have no idea how melee cinder will end up

[bitter oar]

is maehlins more damage than falcon?

[flint turret]

dunno

[bitter oar]

iirc the +4 skill +as can get u a bunch of daggers

that also apply absurd ignite

[flint turret]

more ignite chance for sure, dunno if its more ignite damage

[zenith rivet]

my S1 build was using CS and melee trap but it was unimpressive. hope that with the new amulet it will perform better

[bitter oar]

yea i got it to like 300-400 corruption and cba from there

[flint turret]

yeah they might be better but needs testing

[bitter oar]

why less dmg while moving? locked in when using cs no?

[pastel timber]

Rogue enjoyer is time to shine, happy hunting, may the RNGod be with you ! 🔥

[little temple]

im gonna eat the bait and go for ignite heartseeker 2nd build

do we have any prolif mechanic similar to the new ignite prolif amulet ?

[atomic vapor]

did an uber with my falconer

around 2 mins

but keep in mind that's with my busted gear

20 dusk shroud stakcs tops with no changes

probably can go higher with a bow setup

might be way higher with sync strike 5 shadows but I can't be bothered to respec, gonna make a seasonal character

if anyone wants to go standard umbrals, with normal human being gear, expect longer than 2 mins, ofc I don't have a primordial/t8 but I doubt that'll make a big impact given this character's gear

thought people would be interested to know how it's performing

otherwise pretty much immortal on uber with around 2500 life

I didn't need to pay attention to any mechs

anyway happy season guys

[flint turret]

sounds decent

[placid flame]

that almost makes me want to go that instead of warpath

[atomic vapor]

my falconer is 3lp daggers, 2lp shattered worlds/nihilis

don't expect a sub 2 min kill with normal farming

[placid flame]

sure but i dont expect sub 1m on Warpath at start either 😄

[atomic vapor]

fair fair

[flint turret]

doesn anyone have minion falconer geared out?

[hallow cradle]

Hey played rogue umbral last season, still worth playing or?

[lyric stag]

you did uber in the new season ? or you mean last season

am new downloading the game yet now kinda like assasins but idk if they are meta this season

[low vector]

What's the go to starter build for rogue?

[low vector]

You tried clear? how does it feel with the higher cd

[trim dawn]

do you have a quick letools link?

If it's still that good, I definitely think my dumb spear tech will be good

[flint turret]

as expected cinder leveling so far is prett yterrible

[atomic vapor]

all I said was for 1.3

I did uber the moment patch hit

everything I typed above is for s3

[trim dawn]

did they nerf puncture

leveling be slow as h*ck

[craggy talon]

share me planner please

[lyric stag]

how you did uber once the patch hits ? i do not get it ?

for my info the uber is the end game boss

how you got all this in 1 hour xD

[lyric stag]

i tried falconer once the skill was clingy takes time to jump something like this is there any other strong build assasin with different style ? no delay on the skill

[hybrid marsh]

just got a dragonsong at lvl 20

[little temple]

am i bad or did they buff the hell out of mono

43 rn getting my ass kicked constantly, struggling to finish a mono

[cobalt mantle]

They upped the lower level monos by about 4 levels on the low end

[little temple]

yeah i can feel it

i'm getting cooked alive T_T

[wide yacht]

sync is so fast now it feels weird

LOL

[brittle blaze]

best way to scale damage with acid flask?

[flint turret]

ahahahaha

first ascend lvl 28

cinder is real

[prisma marlin]

I just cleared uber in about 3.5min (takes twice as long compared to season 2) running maxroll umbral blades from season 2. Uber fight feels more like an actually uber fight instead of normal aberroth from season 1

Dunno if im going to play this season. Nerfs killed all the dopamine

[atomic vapor]

i'm confused, are you saying bow is slower?

because that's way slower than my time

[vast cedar]

whats best to lvl with as rogue? going acid flask build later on

[atomic vapor]

we fully expected bow to be faster now due to the cdr

[prisma marlin]

yes bow is slower

[flint turret]

cinder is horrendous during leveling dunno why someone said its okay early on, im definetly not doing it again ever

[atomic vapor]

that's so confusing

[flint turret]

even burning daggers dont help

its zdps on both single target and aoe

[prisma marlin]

umbral blades is better at mapping

not a good idea to run for uber kills

[atomic vapor]

I think it's very solid overall

I did a 4k corruption map

went fine

[little temple]

try explode umbral, the explode delay is now 0.5 seconds

you can really spam it now

[flint turret]

now im thinking about doing cinder on a falconer instead with a bow, aa with umbrals and caltrops

[flint turret]

yeah thanks

doesnt solve the cinder dps issue tho

[little temple]

did i miss something, why does it say only 7.8% of rogues in the ladder rn play bladedancer

is umbral leveling bladedancer bad now ?

[prisma marlin]

mapping feels great

[atomic vapor]

you can push under 2 mins uber with god gear

but it needs a lot of grinding

falconer was b tier maxroll last I checked (idk now I'm blasting)

which is very undervalued

[prisma marlin]

Its odd after 400 hours of season 2 and 400 uber kills. To login on legacy for season 3 and take longer to kill uber aberroth. That is just silly

[flint turret]

Told ya falconer is nowhere near dead

[atomic vapor]

to be fair it went from 15 seconds to 2min+

and 200 stacks to 20

[prisma marlin]

3.5min after a month off is still a good kill time

Feels like an uber fight now isntead of normal aberroth lol

[atomic vapor]

also for me the most important part

it is literally immortal in uber

[flint turret]

Considering 0 adjustments

[atomic vapor]

I facetanked everything even at 20 stacks

[atomic vapor]

you're very right true

[flint turret]

I'd say it's pretty good

[prisma marlin]

just dont stand in the purple lava!

[atomic vapor]

doubt he spawned anything dangerous at all

phased him too fast

[elfin jolt]

might be coming back from 1.0, where falconer was just better bd, has it fallen

screw it guess i read a year of patch notes actually

[flint turret]

I'm actually interested in how minion falconer performs now

[elfin jolt]

dang ragu still here

[flint turret]

[elfin jolt]

real ones do not play minions so we shall never know

[atomic vapor]

ragu is here to correct anyone who says something dumb about rogue basically

[elfin jolt]

allow me to begin the facts of chakram supremacy

[atomic vapor]

falconer is the only class in history that lost 3200% more damage and does uber in ~2min

[elfin jolt]

actually before i scour notes i have to know, has there been any low life vs hp adjustments

[flint turret]

So far I'm the one being dumb. Who else would have started to level with cinder. It was so bad I swapped to umbral sd at lvl 25 because I had to fight a primal beast for like 5 min

[prisma marlin]

75% damage reduction on infinity still lets some major DPS slip through

[atomic vapor]

you're consciously playing the most off meta thing in the universe

I don't have the 🏐s to do that

[elfin jolt]

that's the only fun way to play the game eventually

in his defense

[atomic vapor]

I love zooming I'm addicted

[flint turret]

At least I got mahelins from the first ascendance so I'll swap back as soon I would be able to equip them

That 70 lvl req on ember amulet hurts

And the heart needed to buy it

Anyone knows how to get it yet?

[prisma marlin]

There's a primordial vendor which has some gears the rest are probably from drops

[flint turret]

I know, I'm asking about how to get the heart needed to buy some of the items

The bag with recourses from vendor doesn't mention it being able to drop hearts

[little temple]

the primordial stuff is an absolute pain to get, im guessing at least 30-40 encounters with good rng before you can even do anything

basically the new mechanic drops bones, but everything costs specific monster mats, and you get them by buying a gamba bag that costs 10000 bones

[flint turret]

It's not that bad, you can get up to 5 resources per encounter at low lvl even

It's just the hearts that are nowhere to be found

[atomic vapor]

my guess is either woven echo reward or evolution level 6

[flint turret]

Ah, I've done maybe 5

Hopefully the lineage end gets me the heart

If it's some boss drop that's locked behind corr and woven it would be unfortunate

[atomic vapor]

I saw 3 woven echoes I don't remember the specifics other than the champ affix one

maybe the other two have to do something with it

[flint turret]

The prices for items are really weird

Some +4 skill weapons are really easy to get

Some require multiple hearts

Also lvl req are all over the place

[little temple]

1st timeline is 62, 2nd timeline is 70, holy they buffed the hell out of normal mono

[flint turret]

It should be fine, they added act 10 right

[little temple]

idk didn't even finish 7 xD

[flint turret]

I'll probably not skip anything this time. Last time went to monos after act 5, want to do a campaign for a change

[little temple]

i actually did mono in act 5 just now, died 6 times, ruined 6 monos, went back to farm till act 7

[flint turret]

What build?

[little temple]

1st timeline was a nightmare until 56 then it's start to become manageable

im just manually throwing umbral

[flint turret]

Bleed or sd?

[little temple]

sd explode

the explode fuse time is now insanely fast, and i have no mana so no syncing for me

[flint turret]

It's not the best but it should be more or less fine

Are you using smoke for shadows and smoke blades at least?

[little temple]

yeah

shadow cascade is useless now

i dont want to sync into anything either, the monster damage is really high

[flint turret]

It's free 140% phys damage how is it useless

[little temple]

does it work on bosses ?

[flint turret]

If you have shadows to hit him 4 times yeah

But it's not like you fight bosses most of the time anyway

[little temple]

not sure what to respec, im using shuriken for armor rn

[flint turret]

Don't you have like no flat armor tho?

Armor blessing is quite far

[little temple]

i have like 300 flat

ill have market unlock soon and get the 250 armor set belt

[flint turret]

Tundra helm better

If someone has it already

[little temple]

can't replace this one

damage seems good so far, just 1 shot mechanics to deal with now

[flint turret]

Anchor can help a lot with that

But it's empowered nwm I forgot

[humble socket]

hey, so explosive trap + acid flask is the new falconer?

[normal junco]

Does anyone know why sometimes when I click Cinder Strike it won't use the skill? I have to unequip my bow and equip it again for it to work. Is it bugged?

[weary lotus]

hi, how play Bladedancer ?? i looking build

[flint turret]

Sounds weird, I was leveling with it just now and it was working. Maybe you don't have enough mana or something? Did you take only first attack?

[normal junco]

full mana it just won't work

[flint turret]

Make a video and report it I guess, I don't have any guesses really

I'd gladly take a look too

[normal junco]

Yeah, reported it, I guess going to wait and check tomorrow

[flint turret]

Why did you decide to level with cinder tho? It's horrendous

[normal junco]

I like it

[flint turret]

Dam, I really wanted to level with it too and I thought I'm committed but 5 min primal beast fight broke me

[normal junco]

idk I have no issues with it but I am only lvl 34 and I am on my way to get Heartseeker

[smoky cobalt]

Does anyone have a shadow cascade build to recommend?

[humble socket]

explosive trap and acid flask is the new fotm for rogue now?

[little temple]

there's nothing in the new shop for shadow daggers omg

bag of gold dropped me 4500 gold xD

[deft comet]

what's the fastest falconer build rn?

[wispy kayak]

best build?

for rogue as a whole?

[minor locust]

I wonder if that new unique gloves might do bleed heartseeker marksman good

Anybody tried?

[deft comet]

what are the falconers using

they're blasting right now

[wispy kayak]

oh falconer yet again?

well good thing i just watched kindom of the planet of the apes

[craggy talon]

Falconer its still busted wouldnt trust none of the tierlists

[wispy kayak]

falconer is on s tier at maxroll

[minor locust]

Might be my league starter i really want to try it

[wispy kayak]

highest rogue one

mage is the only class without an OP build (again)

[craggy talon]

not the same build brother

[wispy kayak]

still, falconer non the less

Bird

[craggy talon]

Ye but balista yikes

[minor locust]

Lol guys ignore those stupid tiers and just play the game

[wispy kayak]

no fun?

balista build not fun? i never tried it

[craggy talon]

fun very gear dependant

[wispy kayak]

ahh im MG so that shouldn't be hard

doesn' trequire red ring right?

[craggy talon]

oh it does

[wispy kayak]

oh damn

[craggy talon]

oh no

sec

Phantom Grips

2x

[wispy kayak]

than kgod

[craggy talon]

that maxroll guide its fine

[wispy kayak]

phantom grip so easy to get

[craggy talon]

yhe

[wispy kayak]

RR LP on market is like..yeah no

[craggy talon]

Iam doing SB phantom and still busted

[craggy talon]

hahaha

true

[wispy kayak]

its easy on COF tho

[craggy talon]

anyhow back to blasting have a good one :]

[wispy kayak]

mg more fun tho

anyway time to be ballista hawkboy

[little temple]

is there a way to see shadow dagger current crit chance ?, i wanna know if it works with the new amulet

[flint turret]

wow got at lvl 33

[little temple]

nice

[flint turret]

no heart tho

[floral cypress]

anyone palying falconer can feel the nerfs?

[wispy kayak]

best lvling build?

[flat nacelle]

What sort of screen percentage is covered by net's bleed aoe?

[little temple]

bag of primordial gave me 4 random parts

[uncut notch]

how's the update so far?

[little temple]

suprisingly good, a ton of QOL fixes, new mechanic has great art style and sound desigfn

[flint turret]

dam so low

[little temple]

does increasing umbral blade damage with duskshroud ( in tree) increases shadow dagger damage ?

[flint turret]

no

[rich panther]

Lmfao

bro got 20x size after death

[shadow bobcat]

Guys , I can't decide what I want to play , Most likely I will not get the end game gear , what do you suggest playing ballista or umbral blades ?

[crimson latch]

@zenith bridge how u doing bruhhhhhhhhhhhh i want to see the hs ignite

[little temple]

how's everyone mono's progression so far ?

i thought i just have to get through the first mono because it's a big difficulty spike, im lvl 70 rn in normal mono 3 and i'm stuck again

[zenith bridge]

takes a bit to farm the mats for wildfire

[little temple]

are you struggling with normal monos or cruising ?

[zenith bridge]

cruisin with crit heartseeker

[little temple]

damn maybe i should switch

[crimson latch]

im lvling up with ballista cause i got tons of items for it

as soon i get dragonsong i'll switch

[little temple]

im fighting for my life rn playing manually throw umbral blade

don't have enough mana to do sync cascade

[ripe radish]

Is it possible to make Aerial assault uses not directly on cursor, but TOWARDS cursor?

[little temple]

do you know if the new crit amulet works with shadow daggers ? crit chance over 100 gives deadly strike

[crimson latch]

i got a bow t7 attack speed, i can do HS with that while gearing? @zenith bridge

[zenith bridge]

devs said it should work

[little temple]

MASSIVE TY

[zenith bridge]

yep but you will not be able to spam burning daggers

[little temple]

god i need a damage buff so bad, that's gonna be a 40% more damage at least

im prepping for that ignite build too, got this one just now

[floral cypress]

anyone smarter than me can tell me if falconer nerfs are that huge? or still good class?

[shadow bobcat]

I want to play falconer as well , but all the information I can find is about the Balista beeing good , and the Umbral blades beeing super nerfed

[ripe cradle]

ooh
what class are you going?
marksman?

[little temple]

yeah just copying trikster idea

prob day 3 though im struggling with normal mono rn

[ripe cradle]

oh, heartseeker multihits, which means it multiignites, which means its perpetual motion with the new amulet?

[little temple]

we don't know how it works yet

someone gotta buy and have a feel for it

[ripe cradle]

hmm
if it does work as advertised
is this a silly idea?

[little temple]

dragonsong won't be used

[ripe cradle]

figured it might be interesting on a more autobomber-y variant
using dragonfire to get more fire spells to trigger ignites with

i guess you dont wanna invest into crit tho

[little temple]

it's just the mana cost is brutal

[wispy kayak]

is there any lvling build that uses bows

i dont want to melee

[zenith bridge]

Ok finally got Wildfire

[little temple]

please do update us how it go

[zenith bridge]

well...i think its pretty bad

[little temple]

prolif aoe too small ?

[zenith bridge]

Prolif aoe too small and also lowers the ignites stacks on enemies each metre for what it looks like

[flint turret]

Where do you get hearts?

[flint turret]

Sounds awful

[zenith bridge]

i think you get one guaranteed after completing a lineage or whatever its called

[flint turret]

I did and I got amulet from it

[wispy kayak]

can i level with ballista falcon build? or only end game

[zenith bridge]

yea you get the amulet everytime

[flint turret]

Ah, so hearts has a chance to drop along it?

[zenith bridge]

i think yes

[flint turret]

Kk ty

[flint turret]

Does ignite prolif to each other from 2 enemies hit by different attacks?

[umbral comet]

is there any issues with Shadow Cascade ?

[little temple]

they seem to have aggressively nerfed gold gain

i've been farming 4 hour in normal mono and i got 310k total

[ripe cradle]

oof
does it at least autobomber decently?

or rather
dupe skills enough to be worth it?

might be funny with something like rain of arrows

[wispy kayak]

how is Explosive Trap + Flask build for lvling?

[unique umbra]

is blade dancer any good with the changes or still best to go heartseeker or falcon?

[earnest moth]

is anyone else seeing Silver Shroud not actually work? I thought this was meant to be fixed but it feels like it's even worse...

[unique umbra]

i have not started my character yet, surprised you guys are 70 already, that's fast

[ripe cradle]

i just play standard

[umbral comet]

I haven't played it but wanted to play shadow cascade BD from max roll but the build got disabled soo

I may just go with lethal mirage

[little temple]

wdym build got disabled ?

[crimson latch]

u.u so sad, i wanted to shine with HS

[wispy kayak]

is there only 1 lvling buld? that sucks

[ripe cradle]

theres only one maxroll-sanctioned leveling build
just play without a guide and youll probably find another

[wispy kayak]

link another

[ripe cradle]

no i mean
lots of builds are viable, build sites are not an authority

just experiment yourself

[wispy kayak]

ok

[little temple]

is anyone in emp mono yet ?

im in last ruin rn and i've bricked 6 monos, the mobs do so much damage

[pastel timber]

Falconer umbral blades still amazing league start ✅

[little temple]

damn how are you maxed out on all resist already

[trim dawn]

he has 1300 hp thatsa how

[little temple]

look at my sorry ass

[wispy kayak]

ill probably respec to that, didn't want to do melee but seems best to start

[bold brook]

ya dancing strikes is still not for me

regular cascade just feels way better

[pastel timber]

still bad ? what's your plan B ?

[zenith bridge]

Probably starting bladedancer. I doubt hydra bow will perform well

[crimson latch]

so hs tier B this season

[hollow cliff]

anyone playing acid flask in monos? how is it going?

[pastel timber]

Craf gear + focus right side of monolith

Easy to cap

Keep eyes on good implicite item with % Res or double % res

[hybrid marsh]

oh lemme knowwwwwwww, i got a calamity with %hp at lvl 30 and dragonsong from neme lol

[pastel timber]

So sad, HS ignite build hyped me a lot

[hybrid marsh]

in other news, i double clicked like crazy in primal beast vendor and spent everything and got nothing

so, yea, dont do that

[tight flicker]

Are any of the mm builds using new items or is heartseeker the same?

[hybrid marsh]

triksters new build but i think he just said it doesnt do enough deeps?

[silent relic]

Nooooo

That’s such a bummer

Ignite prolif sucks?

It was so visually fun

[hybrid marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQlWmuqkaA0

^trikster showing prolif being bad for anyone interested

[sharp plinth]

Oh, I was kinda coping that it wasn't going to be that bad, sadge

[unique umbra]

what do you mean it got disabled?

[hybrid marsh]

someone be awesome and link me a planner for BD

either shadow cascade or BBC cook i guess

[shrewd kestrel]

anyone know how well falconer is holding up so far?

[crimson latch]

im doing ballist falconer and feels pretty awesome

[shrewd kestrel]

noted. I usually spec into the basic leveling using umbral, divebomb and AA using a basic guide

hoping it will be viable past campaign

[fiery osprey]

what lvl are u right now ?

[hollow cliff]

Not in empowered yet, but its doing pretty good for me

[craggy talon]

umbral blade falconer it's still great.

[shrewd kestrel]

dope

[crimson latch]

75

but im taking my time

[deft comet]

Uber Aberroth already killed lol

[stoic shadow]

What build?

[deft comet]

explosive flask trapper

[eager mason]

[stoic shadow]

Insane

[plush owl]

whats ur gear

[rotund plover]

uber abby already killed is just so dumb

[finite herald]

my umbral blades is succking on first mono lvl 90

[steady lark]

how is rogue umbral blades performing compared to beastmaster?

[fiery osprey]

im doing great

started lvl 25 mono

haha

[dark otter]

Which build are you following if I may ask?

[fiery osprey]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/

leveling

atm

wanna farm gold and buy razorfalls

[dark otter]

That's an empty planner did you send that by mistake

[fiery osprey]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/falconer-leveling-guide

[eager mason]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdOGRnyA

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (5) / Marksman (27) / Falconer (55)

General:

▸ Health: 1,132, Regen: 19.16/s
▸ Mana: 203.48, Regen: 11.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 40 Dex / 10 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 669% / 160% / 58% / 38% / 38% / 48% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 226
▸ Dodge Chance: 25% (818)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (755)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 20%

Used skills:

Explosive Trap / Acid Flask / Smoke Bomb / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[dark otter]

Thank you much appreciated

[final wigeon]

@eager mason when did u switched to acid flask?
after acquired exalted throwing mana cost rings?

[eager mason]

yeah pretty much

[whole magnet]

yeah but i wonder how it behaves in monos

[eager mason]

if you are not rushing uber I wouldnt play this tho

[whole magnet]

ok its not a screen clear

[eager mason]

had to go zhp

[craggy talon]

u killed him already?

[eager mason]

yeah

[final wigeon]

thanks! ❤️

[fiery osprey]

@eager mason do u think that ballista is better than umbral blades atm ??

[craggy talon]

congrats

[north tree]

Hydra bow is not consistent at all

Doesnt consume black quiver but uses crystal quiver stacks

[finite herald]

anyone has playing with umbral Blades + dive bomb autobomber?

[calm sparrow]

Hi all, new player here. Had a question about the 'blade rush' node on shadow cascade skill tree. If the enemy has both poison and bleeding status, will both the buffs apply giving +30% more crit chance per point?

[fiery osprey]

me

[elder condor]

Did umbral falconer get put in its place? Please tell me it’s down for good

[finite herald]

looks good? how much corruption are you rn?

[fiery osprey]

i rerrolled from beastmaster didnt like playstile of scorpion build , umbral blade feels like last season tbh 🙂

[deft comet]

beast master monos is miserable

[elder condor]

What did they do to our umbral blade falconer

[cyan wren]

This shit absolutely cooked Bleed Falconer.

Tried to force Bleed Falconer, but had 0 mana to cast anything on boss.
Looked down up, left and right till I found out that this specific node has been changed to be unplayable.

[daring juniper]

I need to reroll from beastmaster to something fast. Is umbral blades falconer the go-to for zoom zoom? I want speed

[humble socket]

so what's the rogue build to go? acid flask explosive trap?

[cyan wren]

Literally ruined one of the best and interesting build in the game with a single node. At least free the mana, limit the life.

[upper river]

is heartseeker good enough to swap to immediately on getting it or should I wait? Using Cinder Strike and lots of burning daggers atm.

[flint turret]

God dam it. I was leveling as cinder for this? Seriously? Time to think up plan b I guess

[cedar jewel]

Hi guys any insight on best build to play for rogue in hardcore?

[little temple]

Anyone found anything with the new lineage mechanic ? , seems to me like adding those lineage does nothing but giving an extra pile of loot and an extra toe nail or feather, and the biggest loot seems to be ending the lineage

[upper river]

Got an Evolution's End from one, dunno how good it is and feels like it would be common. But its cool lol

[little temple]

i think it's a guaranteed drop

[upper river]

makes sense to me, not even playing minions and its been helpful on beating other beasts

[little temple]

the chase to buying the unique is really cool to me, but idk if the lineage mechanic holds up, seems really shallow

oo this one is new, beast rift

[flint turret]

I'm really disappointed by ignite prolif. It was "the thing" of a season for me

[upper river]

too short of a spread?

[little temple]

same here, i thought it was the perfect 2nd build to farm for

[little temple]

according to trickster, the prolif is not only small, but very inconsistent, like mobs close to the main receive half the stack, and others after that either have very little or none at all

[tropic blaze]

Same here. Now I don't know what build I want to go for

At least I didn't get too far on my rogue, can still go for something entirely different

[upper river]

ouch, that hurts

was the secondary reason of me playing a rogue...

Didnt want another acolyte

[tight hornet]

i still hope they will hotfix the amulet and make it actually work, seems dumb put out chase item that do nothing

[upper river]

wait...how chase is it?

[flint turret]

I doubt they will do anything about it because there are primordial blood proof gloves that are heavily limited in prolif too

[little temple]

it's like a 4-5 hour grind

[tight hornet]

chase with good rolls

[flint turret]

Amulet was looking much better but now it makes sense they both suck

[tropic blaze]

The fact that it isn't on "known issues" has me worried. But also no idea what times EHG operates on

[little temple]

the mace is crazy good, it gives 90% increased stats to your offhand

i am 100% using that with an exalted dagger

[flint turret]

What does mace have to do with prolif tho

[humble socket]

acid flask explosive trap is good?

[little temple]

no i mean the mace in that shop is good

[flint turret]

Because it's not an issue, it's how it was intended to be I'm mostly sure

[little temple]

t8 shadow daggers pen holy

ward on shadow creation goes from 110 to 180, but for reason everything else is doubled

[flint turret]

300 on body

[little temple]

i can only see 200

weird the helmet and chest say both 200

[flint turret]

It's a helm, no?

[little temple]

nvm found it

damn so the chase is the rune then

[flint turret]

For sd I guess yeah

[little temple]

i just bought a t7 shadow daggers pen body for 200k lmao

and the stat is not that bad

endgame base as well

[flint turret]

Sd overall is more if a starter build, it doesn't scale as well I to an endgame

High corr rather

Falconer can make it work in pretty high corr too tho

[little temple]

i wanna try it with the new mace and new amulet, it could push pretty far

trickster has confirmed that the overcap crit works on SD, so the ammy is a 40% more damage multi

[flint turret]

Sd doesn't usually have an issue with lack of multi due to lirakas

Mace seems interesting, too bad we are limited to a dagger in offhand with sd tho

Id rather have exalted doomstar doubled stats over obsidian dagger

[little temple]

that mace also gives armor applies to dots and more armor as well, and + to all stat, so im trying to find an obsidian dagger instead to have more increased damage

with crit and pen fixed, most likely the only problem left is mana, cause you can spam sync the same way with cascade for more damage

[zenith bridge]

I didnt test it myself yet. But a dev confirmed and said it "should" work.
Sadly lately we need to test everything by our own.

It probably works as good as the wildfire amulet 🤣

[little temple]

yeah that is the let down of the century right there, it seems like the best 2nd build to go for, cheap and effective day 3 transition

[zenith bridge]

Dude mad respect! Are you world first? I saw you on the ladder, was like 4 lvls behind you. But i never expected that you already have him down

[humble socket]

what build is he using?

[plush owl]

scroll up he linked it

[humble socket]

so acid flask explosive trap basically, it seems it's the go to this season

[marsh sable]

Hey, may i ask someone to advice some actual bladedancer build? My random crit 2h flurry seems to no longer cut it for empowered monos.
Do intend later to go for black blade of chaos, but no clue for current situation.

[little temple]

just swap to shadow dagger umbral blades and manually throw umbral blades

kinda bad though im playing it rn , squishy af

2 of the top BD seems to be going cascade

[atomic vapor]

absolute madlad potato

Big props

[eager mason]

thx trikster

[flint turret]

If you are manually throwing and don't have sync you can get traps attach on melee hit and dusk shrouds on traps. It will help with survivability a bit

[eager mason]

your chakram build is the reason I started playing rogue

[flint turret]

But I'd rather recccomend swapping to falconer for umbral aa for sd tbh

[humble socket]

i heard they destroyed a mana node for sustain

[flint turret]

Oh I missed it, gj

[little temple]

i do have sync, just not enough mana regen to spam it

[atomic vapor]

Two red rings and no other changes were enough for me to sustain on Uber on legacy

[flint turret]

Was too busy frustrating about ignite proliferation

[little temple]

i need to look into the trap thing

[eager mason]

is it shit?

[atomic vapor]

apparently prolif has crap aoe

Needs tightly packed mobs

[little temple]

bad and buggy

[flint turret]

Check a vid above from trikster, yeah it's shit. Suffered with cinder leveling for no reason

[little temple]

the amount of ignite stack going around is not consistent

[atomic vapor]

it's a shame because it's a good idea

enables new stuff

[flint turret]

"too good to be true"

[atomic vapor]

in typical ehg fashion

[flint turret]

Blood gloves was on a whole different level below that ammy so all in all this makes sense

[atomic vapor]

I see some of the vendor prices are a little inconsistent

Maybe it's just me

I didn't get to blast a lot anyway I reached lvl 60, I had work today

Can't push too fast in general this season due to work

So I didn't see the endgame scaling on the drops yet

[flint turret]

Still very disappointing. If they had the ignite amount reduction after spread mention in the description I wouldn't have build my season plan around it definitely

I don't even know what to play now

[atomic vapor]

incomplete tooltips

play regular umbrals. It's based enough because nobody plays it now and it can be optimized to under 2 mins kill

[little temple]

you mean prices in the new mechanic ?

[atomic vapor]

Yeah the goat vendor

Some items look too cheap for the effects

[little temple]

the bones is very inflated cause you get so little of it

everything else drops like candy if you get to the higher lineage

[steady lark]

How is harvest lich mage compared to beastmaster or falconer rogue?

[atomic vapor]

Yeah I'm at normal monos so I didn't get to see how that scales sadly

[little temple]

im currently canceling every single lineage so that every encounter i get the cave to farm bones

[zenith bridge]

no way! Glad to hear 🙂 For how long do you play LE already? The first time i saw your name was with your SC uber abby kill. And then you did some crazy arena run in the maxroll tourney.

[flint turret]

It's too... How would I say it... Overexposed

[atomic vapor]

It would still be based to have everyone play flask and you're casually cruising season 2 umbrals

[opaque anvil]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[flint turret]

I'd rather go mourningfrost arsenal throw stack with valor tbh if I do falconer

[opaque anvil]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[atomic vapor]

Cold bird

[flint turret]

I did a math on it and it should end up in 650 melee and throwing flat on a falcon

[eager mason]

started in beta but wasnt playing much, have 1.4k hours and 700 of it is last season

[sly token]

Shadow daggers hasnt been nerfed?

I feel like its always been too OP I came back expecting ti to be nerfed

[little temple]

i think for falconer it's nerfed

[flint turret]

Why would they? No one was using them for corr climbing or Uber already

[little temple]

for BD it's been mid forever

[sly token]

so SD bladedancer is good then?

[atomic vapor]

Talons will be annoying to farm with the lpl nerf

[sly token]

damn

[little temple]

mega mid

[sly token]

sad

bladedancer got a lot of buffs this patch right?

I skimmed the notes

did anything stand out

BD is what I started the game on

I struggle to like look at the text/numbers and picture the gameplay of it, I always play it first then dump if its boring me

[atomic vapor]

Personally I'm very happy falconer stomps on the game even after such a nerf

[little temple]

doesn't feel like any buff tbh, im fighting for my life rn in emp mono

[sly token]

I mean it just shows how good falconer was

[little temple]

they did buff some nodes in BD tree

[atomic vapor]

Yeah obviously, we have 15 second Uber kills lol

[flint turret]

Overall Ds cascade was probably buffed the most indirectly

[sly token]

hm okay

[dark palm]

Hi, im thinking of playing rogue this season, anyone got any recommendations of a build i should follow

[little temple]

the buff to monster is really killing my BD right now cause BD doesn't have defense until you have gear

this one is nice, guaranteeing beast encouter

[atomic vapor]

The monsters in the rift beast area are brutal

They hit like a truck

[little temple]

i think if you have high leech you can deal with them, the most 1 shots i've been getting is still from the woven mobs

[atomic vapor]

I'll see how the scaling goes when real life leaves me alone enough to push

I started bear this season just to switch it up

Might make rogue later

[little temple]

im 84 rn and still struggling, literally having to concentrate constantly cause so much stuff can kill me, but at 85 i have a massive item spike

[craggy talon]

bd falconer still good BTW

[earnest moth]

bd?

[humble socket]

even with the mana nerf?

basically what did they nerf ?

[craggy talon]

my bad falconer umbral shadow. I don't feel the mana but I have rings with mana

[crimson latch]

I just want to figure out some HS variant u.u

[flint turret]

I have an untested soulgambler planner for hs but it would need Abby relic

Can do it without it too but spell crit won't be capped

[atomic vapor]

So if the bones are the bottleneck and the lpl on the primordials is already pretty steep

2lp will be a problem

I don't see them being too farmable

[grand finch]

@zenith bridge u build icicle heartseeker for S2 still work for S3?

or something is change?

[crimson latch]

Send it please

[zenith bridge]

No changes still the same build. Could be improved with a primordial item. Maybe Truesight amulet.

[flint turret]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/cn9f50qa

i expect it to have like 3k ward

[pastel timber]

Hey @zenith bridge did you shared your vod to #1210281997591908452 or #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs to know if prolif work as intented ?

[flint turret]

also might be worth investigating hydrabow with soulgambler

can take flat crit nodes in hs because spell crit wont be required anymore

ill probably wont play hs second season in a row but on the other hand i have no idea what im playing actually after ignite prolif plans shattered

[zenith bridge]

Only did a bug report/feedback. Mike would probably just send me to the feedback&suggestion channel

[pastel timber]

I'm trying, need to know if it is intented or not

[flint turret]

will you check how hydra works?

[little temple]

the primordial mod is automatically sealed, giving slot for another mod

rip forging potential, none left

[flint turret]

but we already knew that

and you can even seal another one with despair

[little temple]

that's wild

o well time to farm the amulet

[cyan wren]

What amulet?

[zenith bridge]

yes will buy it next

[flint turret]

new maxroll planner is terrible it doesnt even canculate tongue crit in offhand

[glass stag]

How does the dancing cascade build work? Is cascade triggered by shift or dancing?

[zenith bridge]

They already told us about some known issues with the new planner. Should get fixed soon.

[shadow bobcat]

Hi , guys , now that the game was our for 1 day , is the balista build good ? does it work well ? I still have not decided what I want to play...

[little temple]

hey the ignite build, removing the amulet is it still a good build ?

[ebon cypress]

No new rogue builds ?

[zenith bridge]

Just play either icicle or dragonsong HS for now. Anything with puncture proc for clear, otherwise you will get overwhelmed by trash mobs

Bleed/poison HS in its current state is better than ignite. Ignite needs more gear for dmg output.

[ebon cypress]

What is the absolute meta rogue buold now

[little temple]

ty i appreciate it

[zenith bridge]

i'm kinda surprised though how much ward we can still get from ashes of mortality 👀

[little temple]

i need to get off this blade dancer build, i need a build using less brain power

[zenith bridge]

for now acid flask trapper is a save call (either marksman or falconer). Maybe a new broken build will come out this league.

[ebon cypress]

Not ballista Falconer ?

I see that as the only s tier on max roll for rogue

[zenith bridge]

i personally think trapper is better, but yea ballista falconer also does very good dmg

[dim moth]

I just finished campaign and with the rogue leveling build I keep dying in the monolith. Damage is amazing but life / health is way too low, like 700 only. What is the best way to improve the build? Or do i make a new charactrer?

[weary widget]

1000 ward per second is 1000 ward per second

[flint turret]

doesnt add avoidance from bd passive either smh

[zenith bridge]

yep reported it aswell

[zenith bridge]

i thought the ward only goes up to 2k every 2sec. Not higher. So still a very good defensive mechanic.

[weary widget]

Oh yeah, that'd be a lot worse

[flint turret]

where do i find buffs and conditions on maxroll planner?

im probably blind and i cant find it

[zenith bridge]

I also cant find it anymore

[flat nacelle]

Can heartseeker strike stuff off-screen?

As in, is it range capped like some other skills?

[flint turret]

It can but it's not infinite

If no enemies nearby it will just recurve at place near the edge of the screen

[flat nacelle]

Gotcha; any advice on which the skill with most off-screen clear might be? Multishot? Puncture?

Also, how much of your screen will the dot from net be applied to?

[cedar jewel]

guys whats the best build for rogue hardcore?

[merry pawn]

is anyone playing dancing strikes with cascade + s ync strike? Feels like it's decente but maybe going throwing dmg is better? Since you can proc chakrams and cascade

[rugged pollen]

throw dam will be better if you have 6 skill slot instead of 5

[flint turret]

throw cascade is fine, but it doesnt have more damage than melee, especially considering new op boots

and throwing is probably better on MM with heartseeker helm

im not entirely sure tho

[merry pawn]

the new boots is for flay? i thought BD would really like the low life body armour

[flint turret]

boots are not primordial

[thin quartz]

i am very confused on this item.

[tight hornet]

tbh now that we foudn out that amulet is ass i have no idea how to play rogue, i just wanna zoom zoom in maps but blade dancer seems horrible to play with, seems just super delayed damage

[cinder condor]

Do we have a guide/planner for trapper?

[grand finch]

damn truesight glass is so good 'o'

[next gale]

does it not scale with both?

Thought it was like Shadow daggers where once you put the throw tag on it it will scale the dmg for the entire attack including the melee portion

[flint turret]

it can be converted fully to throw or add a weaker throw attack to melee

[next gale]

oh thats what they meant, yea I dont see the point in doing that for a Dancing Strikes build, the damage of the skill is still not as relevant. Especially when you can scale it with throw/melee dmg on almost every slot for cascade.

[flint turret]

i was talking about cascade tho, dancing have no throwing options outside of triggering skills

[atomic vapor]

you can play falconer, it's ethical this season

Never thought I'd type that sentence

[next gale]

Yea I know, I was replying to the guy that was asking if they should go throwing on their cascade/dancing build.

originally

[tight hornet]

i was thinking about ballistas

[atomic vapor]

sure yeah

They're a little squishier than other things

umbrals and trap are also options

[vital ivy]

wish this was poe 1, and flask scaled both with poison + fire

[cinder condor]

been trying to decide between ballista falconer or acid flask trapper

any thoughts?

[vital ivy]

acid flask is great but you have to solve mana issues at all times

which may be boring to some

[atomic vapor]

You'll get around the same mileage in the end, just different playstyle

Ballista has better clear

But it's very silver shroud reliant

[cinder condor]

leaning towards ballista bc then I can focus more on dodging stuff than actually aiming skills

[fickle forum]

was hoping for a dancing strikes build but i dont see much synergy with other skills

guess its lethal mirage

[atomic vapor]

I tested umbrals on launch in legacy and it's near immortal in uber if that interests you

[cinder condor]

hmm

interesting

[atomic vapor]

Just don't stand in triple slam without silver shroud obviously

[fickle forum]

yeah ima be going umbrals LM, but was hoping for DS to work

[cinder condor]

Do we have a guide for umbrals?

[atomic vapor]

They should all be outdated, I don't know what primordial might end up pushing ahead

But the standard build from s2 works fine on Uber and the clear is great at around 4k corruption (my highest map at the time)

Typical offscreen kill business

[elder condor]

So what did they do to umbral blade falconer?

[cinder condor]

Could you link that for me? Sorry for all the questions, im kinda new 🙃

[atomic vapor]

No shroud stacks generation

[elder condor]

OOF

[atomic vapor]

Take it with a grain of salt it is not s3 optimized

I'm not playing rogue right now so I didn't look into it at all

I fully expect comfy to pull out a giga build before too long

[cinder condor]

ty ty

[atomic vapor]

The most popular uncapped interaction that's being explored is the bleed scaling with stun change

But I don't like the idea of clearing with a bleed falconer

[cinder condor]

Doesnt maxroll have an updated guide?

[atomic vapor]

maxroll's umbrals guide was outdated during season 2 to begin with

I don't know what they did with it

Also they have the bow variant and a friend here tested it and it's slower than daggers for whatever reason

[cinder condor]

Current one has daggers

[atomic vapor]

They finally swapped? Lol nice

I assume because of the primordial dagger

[cinder condor]

But they did list it as B tier

[atomic vapor]

Yeah obviously it's not the fastest boss killer anymore

But I don't know if flask trap will be better tbh

[cinder condor]

Got it

I might go ballista for now just for the lols

And wait and see what the big guys cook

[atomic vapor]

keep in mind you can't get hit

[cinder condor]

Yeah gotta get used to that

[atomic vapor]

You can build tanky but you'll be dropping mourns

And that's a big loss

[cinder condor]

Is trapper a bit tankier?

[atomic vapor]

It can at the very least scale to the level of defense umbrals reach because they generate similar shroud stacks (dive bomb in the skillset)

And 20 shroud stacks is a lot of survivability

[cinder condor]

So as long as I fix mana issues I should be fine not having to dodge everything on the screen right

[atomic vapor]

I've never played ballista so I don't know how many hungry it gets in the endgame

But for umbrals, with two red rings the dive bomb mana nerf is irrelevant

I was full mana

[cinder condor]

well acid flask it is then

[atomic vapor]

mana*

Keep in mind with rogue you can farm the items for anything you wanna play very easily

They overlap a lot

You still got dex and throw and multi on your filter

And most uniques are very farmable with 2lp for many popular builds

So you can pivot at any point with minimal loss

I started as heartseeker season 2, and I wasn't happy with the damage. It took me one day to switch to umbrals

[cinder condor]

glad to hear that lol

ty for your help

[atomic vapor]

sure np

[sharp stream]

Anyone playing that acid flask rogue? For my rogue build this season tempted to try heartseeker for the first time or that maxroll acid flask

[atomic vapor]

If damage is what you're after, flask deals more

[hybrid marsh]

im waiting on trikster to hit me with the cascade

[sharp stream]

More just want a satisfying speed farming build, something that has interesting mechanics that can make my fps drop

[atomic vapor]

trapper is pretty flashy, lots of fire explosions

It's just not screen wide

[flint turret]

i can offer mine as well, since i already dropped the idea of making something with ignite prolif

[hybrid marsh]

sure

[flint turret]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/flest0gg

maybe i wont be using traps but i wanna try to see how much shrouds i can get

[atomic vapor]

you better make something stronger than a 10min kill ragu, too many hipster builds in a row cause pupil dilation and chronic pains

[flint turret]

id rather play around 10 min hipster cinder but wildfire amulet is too garbage even for me

i lost like 70% of interest in a season yesterday

[atomic vapor]

To be fair how often did they get something to work first try

[flint turret]

and tons of people going cascade already

[atomic vapor]

Trex also bugged with abom Misha says

[flint turret]

i thought about minion falconer but id prefer to avoid farming inheritance on cof

and idols for idol boosting body too for both falcoenr and my soulgambler hs idea

[atomic vapor]

wouldn't you be chilling with a single good affix? You don't push for much bigger gear anyway

[hybrid marsh]

wait am i dumb? siphon leech wont hit because all hits will be crit, which cant be leeched due to peak, right?

[flint turret]

i also thought about making thowing cascade on MM but then im missing out on new sick cascade boots

[atomic vapor]

What're you playing. Does it have health on hit

[flint turret]

unfortunatly no, that planner uses mourningfrost so its rather affix hungry

[atomic vapor]

I see your point that'd be a chase item then

[flint turret]

it wont leech yes

[hybrid marsh]

okay, so im not as dumb as i thought

[ebon cypress]

Best Uber Abbetoth build this season?

Ballista Falconer ?

[atomic vapor]

I don't think anything is stronger than bear right now

Until someone breaks the game that is

[ebon cypress]

For rogue

[atomic vapor]

Idk if ballista is better than flask right now

[ebon cypress]

Max roll wrong ?

[atomic vapor]

If you want to kill uber specifically I think the retracting umbrals tech still works

[ebon cypress]

Is there a build video for flask

I only see stuff for other classes

[hybrid marsh]

acid flask build is mm into falc i believe

[ebon cypress]

No one seems to be playing it on YouTube

[hybrid marsh]

link on maxroll

[ebon cypress]

Hmm but max roll says ballista is way better

I'll just to ballista Falconer

[hybrid marsh]

yea, ballista falconer is top

[tight hornet]

anybody got a filter for ballista flaconeer?

[hybrid marsh]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/ballista-falconer-guide scroll down

[zenith bridge]

did you test it already?

[hybrid marsh]

@zenith bridge you never liked BBC? I dont think i remember you ever making a build for it

[zenith bridge]

i played it but im not a big fan of it

chakram or shadow cascade just feels better for me

[fathom shale]

Any Hydra Arc build ideas floating around?

[hybrid marsh]

i believe so far its labelled as "not worth it"

[silent relic]

Is it just me

Or are a lot of the primordial uniques just bad

The ignite one is bad

The frog one is bad

[void cargo]

is there any good skill where acan use it maybe what stacks with baldedancer or falconer?

[fathom shale]

Flurry?

[grand finch]

no, i just see the item xD have some good status

[zenith bridge]

only ideas that i have is with blast rain for mapping or hopefully abusing some mana stacking techs with DA

but i think its just going to be a bow for mapping

[atomic orchid]

hi are you still playing shadow cascade right now xD

[hybrid marsh]

we are all waiting for the video cook 😛

[atomic orchid]

i want build guides haha

[hybrid marsh]

i already bribed him with help lol

[zenith bridge]

yep

i still need to figure out the gear. The skill is so versatile with gearing setups

[hybrid marsh]

i wanna see how people build

[woeful ether]

@atomic vapor my friend how different is umbral 😭

[hybrid marsh]

so i can learn for myself and cook

[woeful ether]

i've been focused on poe lol

[atomic orchid]

can i have ur build leveling please

[zenith bridge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/shadow-cascade-bladedancer
still using the old guide. But at the end it will have a full unique gear setup i guess

i dont know if im going low life or not

[atomic orchid]

okay,, so for now i can just follow everything in the build guides right

thank you so muchhh

[zenith bridge]

yep everything you see in the guide brought me easily to 500c back in 0.9

the game got harder of course, but the gear also way better

[atomic orchid]

ok ok thank you trikster

[ashen thorn]

hey guys i was looking for a Ballista falconer guide, and saw ppl using zeurials hunt quiver, but why ? ballista doesnt have lignting damage ? or am i stupid ? ( talking about the maxroll guide )

[glass stag]

Is the chakram build still viable in 1.3 with the increased sync strike animation speed?

[tropic blaze]

There hasn't been any response by EHG regarding the Ember amulet yet, right?

[atomic vapor]

with my gear I did a kill a little over 2 mins with 0 changes the moment the patch dropped

I'm pretty sure it can be optimized to reach a kill speed of like season 2's erasing strike so given the very expected nerfs, pretty good

ofc there are faster killers around right now

[zenith bridge]

yep i actually updated it to 1.3 on maxroll
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/0fdd50q7#1

[atomic vapor]

It is a lot of flat damage regadless

it has the bow tag and therefore the inheritance applies to ballistas

[ashen thorn]

oh i forgot about that

so as long its bow...X it counts toward that passive?

[woeful ether]

cool. idk anything about any other build lol. i might just continue playing my char at some point to get some of the new stuff. don't think i'm going to do the season fresh

[atomic vapor]

yep, generally ingame it's beneficial to focus on one damage type, but if you can add a different element flat damage of the same tag like melee/throw/bow/etc with no drawback then there's no reason not to

[atomic vapor]

like on legacy? actually based

[woeful ether]

yeah. aren't ssome of the next few updates basically base game stuff so legacy = league?

[atomic vapor]

yeah no announcement about season only stuff so far

I decided to start primalist this season just to switch it up

might make a rogue later

[woeful ether]

besides who wants to grind double perfect red rings again

[atomic vapor]

oh I'm so doing it

I'm actually unironically excited to

[woeful ether]

i'm about to do ubers on poe for the first time in hc

gotta take a break from arpg grinding

are you gonna minmax primalist like you did last season rogue?

[atomic vapor]

I haven't the faintest clue

I'll go with the vibes

[woeful ether]

you've gotta make a stretch goal every season now. this one will be 2 lp rr

[pearl forge]

i wonder how truesight works with guaranteed crits

[fickle forum]

diggin the hat/bandana drip

[rugged pollen]

anyone notice sync getting stuck?

i thought they fixed it already but looks like it came back with the animation buff

[void cargo]

how i go there when i dont tp????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy7AoQwDfKs when some1 got same problem

[uncut notch]

how's heartseeker now

[vital ivy]

kinda pog?

not sure how good endurance will be for low life

[shadow bobcat]

what;s a good skill to lvl falconer up ?

[pastel timber]

Flurry > Acid flask > Puncture > umbral blades (+ Arial assault once available)

[ancient osprey]

multishot anygood ?

[next gale]

The bleed convert primordial gloves are bugged with heartseeker, besides that dont know what other new unique heartseeker is using. Going to go test the new bow in offline rq as thats the only other possibly interesting thing.

[trim dawn]

chat

someone confirm for me here

taking this node lowers ur damage of dive bomb, and then only increases it once you have enough shadow falcons, right?

[hybrid marsh]

ATTENTION THEORYCRAFTERS:

Just a quick question to help me get better at building for myself. What do you measure, when you are theorycrafting for end game? Like, what numbers are you looking at and say "this is gonna be good" vs "this sucks"? For instance, I know there are staples like "i need 75 resistance for everything", "i need x amount of crit resistance", "i need x amount of hp". What are YOUR checklists when building? What is something you are looking at and you say "okay, that is covered" or "that is enough of x". I know cooldowns and mana costs are a big puzzle of the game. Where do you start? Thanks, just trying to learn. 🙂
Edit: Im posting this here because I have zero interest in any other class and only play BD lol

Im not looking for fish. Im looking to learn how to fish. If that idiom makes sense in the context.

[flat nacelle]

Any anyone give me a sense of how big the aoe is from 'net' bleeds?

Been trying to get an answer on this as it affects whether I want to bother playing it 😄

[weary widget]

The most imprtant thing is damage. You can make any build reasonably tanky with gear. That isn't the same with damage as much. And to get damage you (usually) need as many ''more'' multipliers as possible. It doesn't matter if you have 2000% increased damage if your skill is Cinder Strike and your only more damage is 2 nodes

[hybrid marsh]

Sure. How much damage is "enough"?

What is your "this is busted" or "this is gonna carry hard" threshold?

[midnight zealot]

usually to test some builds i'm just doing aberroth

if i'm able to kill him in under 50 seconds im okay with the damage

tbf anything under 1 minute is enough to go in corruption 2000 if you're counting on dmg only, but you may lack defenses x)

of course it could take you 10 minutes and you would still be able to do 2000 cor with some of the tankiest builds out there, but definitely wont happen with bd, you will be able to destroy aberroth x)

[weary widget]

The only time I think 'this is busted' is if 1) the build can scale infinitely and easily i.e. When you could stack dusk shrouds for umbral blades. 2) If you can hit many many many times, like with pre-nerf frost claw, or 3) If you have 20 more multipliers on a skill like erasing strike

There's no concrete number tho, because there are a lot of builds with unique interactions to do damage

[midnight zealot]

that's why i'm trying to get some estimations with a timer on aberroth :3

[weary widget]

Like reflect spriggan only has 2 multipliers but 10k flat damage

You just need to ask yourself 'what if I scaled this to its absolute limit?'

[turbid orchid]

Can someone help me with temporal sanctum lvl 3 ?

[past falcon]

rip, I was just thinking those would be good

[next gale]

Specifically the Armor Shred > Poison > Bleed is bugged.

[past falcon]

ohh, so the explosion is still good?

[next gale]

Haven't tested myself, but can do so in 2 levels and let you know. That part should be fine.

[past falcon]

stuck between where to go between icicle and bleed build since wildfire is bugged

[upbeat lava]

Hi guys, I would like to roll a falconer, what is the most viable build to kill uber abberoth besides ballista? Is umbral blade falconer good with the new primordial dagger?

[crimson latch]

oh its a bug?

[quartz nebula]

didn't see the confirmation on it being bugged or intended

[flint turret]

looks pretty intended to me

[quartz nebula]

either way kinda bummed about it, wanted to do ignite heartseeker, but no probably gonna reroll or just go play some cs till poe 2 0.3

[quartz nebula]

may be,but then the wording on amulet should change

[unique umbra]

is there a viable dancing strikes build with the changes now?

[quartz nebula]

to something like "spreads half of ignite stacks to 1 nearby enemy every second"

[flint turret]

yeah thats messed up tbh. i wouldnt have planned my season around it if its was the case from teh start

[wide yacht]

how do you get crystallized hearts? isi t pure RNG?

[unique umbra]

you can trade for them

the npc sells them

[wide yacht]

there is no normal way to obtain it?

[unique umbra]

rng, but very low i think

[wide yacht]

it doesn't seem to show up in evolutions

ah

[unique umbra]

it says it has a "chance" to

[next gale]

depends on what you consider "viable"

Im about to make one soon, but its very squishy.

I saw I think Misha linked one where it was low life with the new primordial chest.

[unique umbra]

I mean I would love it if it could just go have fun clearing waves on 500c without thinking twice, some of the primalist builds just walk in a straight line with that spinning hammer and seem to wreck

[wide yacht]

is there a way to optimize it in any way then? as in, if the odds aren't looking good, do you just "end" the lineage?

[midnight plinth]

Sigh, baited to do bladedancer for the third patch in a row, at least this time I can give up before hitting mono. Dancing strikes cooldown being capped at 30% is dumb. Off to play a class that EHG didn’t leave to rot

[wide yacht]

it is dumb, the only saving grace it needs right now is a full rework for S4

[heavy ledge]

A bit confused on how the Flask of Volatile Ice scales damage. I took Explosive Flask but %Increase to Cold Damage doesn't seem to be impacting the tooltip. Is the tooltip just bugged or am I misunderstanding how the conversion works?

[wide yacht]

a "signature ability" has no business being this uncared for

[unique umbra]

not sure, i'm just jumping in to everything, this is just from what i saw on the tool tips and the npc yesterday

[unique umbra]

I am sooooooooo glad i read this

Looks like i'm going to play the Trails in the Sky remake demo and skip S3 lol (jk I'll play S3, but just not no life it like I would if I had a good dancing strikes or flurry option)

[quartz nebula]

Why did they say that it scales with attack speed now if this is the case

Top tier bait lul

[unique umbra]

the ability does more damage based on your attack speed, similar to the Agility passive in Rogue tree.

so you scale attack speed for damage instead of speed but you're limited on how quick you can use the skill because of max CDR as moochi was saying

[quartz nebula]

Oh,so more damage but clunkier, i thought damage was the same, but cooldown got reduced by attack speed, my misunderstanding

[unique umbra]

Dancing Strikes
Now gains increased cooldown recovery speed and more damage equal to 50% of your total increased melee attack speed (from no increased cooldown recovery speed, and more damage equal to 33% of your total increased melee attack speed).
Each attack in the sequence now has 150% effectiveness of added damage (from 100% or 120% depending on the attack).

Looks like it's both.

[quartz nebula]

weird to cap it then

maybe too good uncapped

[unique umbra]

In S2 DS didn't improve with attack speed outside of that 33% and looks like it still doesn't. It's still better overall given that you get CDR you didn't get before, it's just capped at 30% which makes it still feel bad I'm guessing.

Other skills scale damage on attack speed because of the speed increase itself. This one uniquely doesn't care and just has that flat rate bonus.

[hybrid marsh]

so, seems like ballista or acid flask falconer, or cascade/shadow dagger BD and everything else is shit?

[quartz nebula]

so if you get to cap will you have 0.21 sec cooldown?

[unique umbra]

.49 cooldown according to what mooshi said

[quartz nebula]

oh, so you can't reduce it to 30% of base, only reduce it by 30, got it

[past falcon]

@next gale how are the primordial gloves?

[pearl forge]

dancing strikes is fine if you dont mind the random mov

you can get lots of lvls on it and it omegabuffs you

then use it to proc cascades/shurikens etc

you could do a bleed build kinda with it and pop them with rupture

just dont expect anyone to do a guide soon try things

[next gale]

its beyond cooked, completely unplayable

[past falcon]

damn

[next gale]

the conversion works as intended for all gear sources

[pearl forge]

what is the problem with them?

[next gale]

as in poison/shock/time rot etc is converting for the gloves

but the blood explosion

is centered around you

[past falcon]

LMAO

[next gale]

and not where the enemy died

[quartz nebula]

lol what

[past falcon]

damn I might wait like a week to play the game since CoF anyways

[quartz nebula]

it surely is a bug
"When you kill an enemy it has a (25 to 47)% chance to explode with Primordial Blood dealing physical damage to others around it"

[pearl forge]

seems nice for bd

maybe for black blade because you get infinite shock chance with shocking grasp

might try a build around it

[past falcon]

at this rate might reroll into thorns that shit seems broken as hell

[crimson latch]

i love you @zenith bridge just made a variant from wildfire with dragonsong + full crit and im flying xd

[unique umbra]

what is mov

[pearl forge]

when you use the ability if force moves you

need to know a bit to not waste dmg or get hit by shit

also first fulg GOT

[unique umbra]

i wonder if shuriken, dancing strikes, lethal mirage, smokebomb, sync strike would work

[wispy kayak]

isn't working right for me

is it random?

No clue how to use that. I guess i might not play ZHP ballista if i can't get that to work

or rogue period

[idle pasture]

your 3rd ability on your action bar (from the left) will trigger it on use

[wispy kayak]

Why put more than 1 point into that?

[idle pasture]

idk

[wispy kayak]

weird

[next gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ut4xJCG5tE

[past falcon]

yikes must be a bug, does it do damage can you stand close lol

[next gale]

it does do damage yes, if Im point blank

[quartz nebula]

how do you solve mana on that build? im trying one with - mana cost bow rn but without it it was rough

[sly token]

does increased attack speed apply to bladestorm in umbral blades?

Like can the 3 times a second be increased

Also regarding using it to apply shadow daggers, even with the lower chance the multi hit of bladestorms is better than the normal throw right?

[next gale]

no

[sly token]

god I hate small grey text

ty

[north tree]

not sure if people tested hydra bow but it doesn't spend mana it gains mana with mana warp/siphoning strike

[crimson latch]

i dont use burning daggers

and still in secs got 999+ ignite charg, also decent crits, im at 300c melting everything

[potent arrow]

did the dmg in mono's double compared to S2? getting 1 shot so much at 100c

[crimson latch]

feel the same

im playing super carefuly haha

[crimson latch]

xd

[potent arrow]

haha

[crimson latch]

in 1 sec

[potent arrow]

i had a fat bumblebee dude fly into me for 2400 dmg and Covenant of Dominion do like 2k dmg at 100c

my res is capped but armor is very low

[sly token]

shadow cascade requiring duel wield is bypassed by triggers still or no?

like if I triggered it via Lethal Mirage or something

[gilded snow]

will the falcon stats improve acid flask thrown by the falcon via toxic airdrop node?

[past falcon]

if you try like puncture does it work properly?

[next gale]

I re-rolled already, but I did try puncture in melee range and it worked correctly. But I didnt use it with a bow attack. One sec ill check for ya