#🔪┃rogue
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Ironically btw the imprints that proc from mob kills don't need resonance because they're tagged as regular drops as opposed to caches/echo rewards
Wall or mountain core are decent options. On a more budget side are titan and ox
Wait what, nemesis drops can't be gifted? I tried giving a 0lp item to a mate, he put it into a nemesis, and returned me 1lp after that if I'm not misremembering things
I think that's because it was tagged prior. But from my testing, you still need resonance from a drop that the nemesis generated. Maybe that was changed down the line but I found a +erasing strike chestpiece and needed obsidian to send it to my friend while he was standing next to me
I think I also gifted imprints from caches
Or maybe it was drops from them I'm not sure now
Weird
I don't have much experience with resonances so I'm mostly unsure how they work, but droprates should be bit higher imo
Or maybe even a woven echo with resonance reward or gifting option would be nice
Another instance of that happening was when I was helping another friend by imprinting my pig ammy. Drops off the echo reward, needs obsidian. Drops later from mobs in the map, can send it just fine
Thanks. I should have mentioned I'm CoF so budget doesn't really matter. I just need to go farm stuff with prophecies (hopefully) or a natural drop along the way
Sounds like it's not working that well
Budget does matter. For cof you pay with time instead. And more budget means it's faster/easier to obtain
None of null/wall/core drop from prophecies or imprints
Its all boss drops
Is that true though ? I have had several Peak of the Mountain drops outside the boss in the Lightless Arbor dungeon. Null and Wall I can understand but if I can get the helmet outside the dungeon maybe that also means the armour is obtainable as well
you're confusing core with peak
You can get dungeon drops from the weaver tree in monos
Including core. But chances for core is pretty low
2lp core is absolutely not a budget option compared to the helm. Not impossible but it's not a fun chance to roll 2lp and good rolls
Ah ok. Running some Lightless should be fine.
1lp will take some time too, especially if you don't have 150% boss drops buff yet
Chances are pretty bad for it overall
And on top of it it has a big stat spread
If you've got time to spare and a good YouTube playlist, blast through your portal charms mindlessly, probably the best investment for them outside of mg shenanigans with rune spam
has anyone tried to make a DOT heartseeker build yet?
@atomic vapor do you know if the weaver dungeon drop mobs can drop soul gambler items?
or if those are gambler only
Even better if you have someone in cof to bring with you who doesn't need 1lp core
Easy gifting
which one is better overall (DPS and survivability) physical HS or Fire Dragonsong HS?
Physical hs don't exist (outside of bleed)
If you mean the tree point that makes woven mobs drop dungeon boss rewards, you get Julra drops, Titan drops and Fire Lich drops, to my knowledge. That's it
Sorry correction. Not woven mobs. Dungeon packs that spawn alongside them
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJYVqaqA i found this build in LE tools is this ok?
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (67) / Falconer (11)
▸ Health: 4,352, Regen: 14/s
▸ Mana: 200.44, Regen: 8.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 74 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 54% / 54% / 81% / 54% / 50% / 80%
▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,693
▸ Dodge Chance: 30% (1051)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (502)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 18%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%
Shift / Puncture / Heartseeker / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver
i guess the only saving grace 1.2 has is the spammable foudry woiven echo
"by Action RPG" susge
I hate that I thought the same
Special place in hell I swear
Doesn't look good ngl
100 flat damage total
That's the main issue, there are no decent bow flat phys damage sources in the game at all
is actionrpg a bad content creator?
Let's say it noob-friendly
Low entry requirements, low ceiling
For lots of people it's good enough
And bringing positive attention to a game is always good, so it's definitely not a bad content
is attempting bee rogue dumb https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A65l39eo
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Falconer (63)
▸ Health: 3,425, Regen: 98.64/s
▸ Mana: 334.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 31 Dex / 5 Int / 98 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 145% / 73% / 73% / 63% / 75% / 65% / 144%
▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 721
▸ Dodge Chance: 24% (800)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,370)
▸ Block Chance: 54%, Mitigation: 29% (602)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 99%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%
Acid Flask / Falconry / Decoy / Smoke Bomb / Shift
idk if it's viable to actually spam acid flask to spawn bees but i had a fever dream
One good thing I can say about Aaron is that he's not a game hopper. Which might be bad career wise I guess but
It's good for the game
Why hate 
I remember some old thumbnails "300c plus"
Not everyone is pushing 1k, his guides are good enough for 99% of the playerbase
I know, not actually "hating"
yeah gotta say 1k corr was suprisingly "hard" in le terms. 500 or so felt comfy to relatively easily get to quickly in a mini push
the fact that empowered is 100 and the final boss is at 300 makes the end end quite short
The problem with those builds is that it's hard to make suggestions for someone without suggesting a big build overhaul
i am currently doing 500c and i feel like that is the highest I'll go just now
Once they've reached the ceiling of what that build can do, it gets tricky
Outside of stealing content that is. I remember trikster said his written guide on multishot was ripped off almost word-to word tho
without any credit
that's what it felt like. 500c max or so for casual. and 300 is enough anyway considering the actual story/endgame
i saw a build creator called SMK think about running bees on acid flask trapper to spawn bees that would disstract mobs
but thats not really using the bees for damage or anything
Haven't been following on too specialized drama sadly, if that's the case then damn, sucks
i wouldn't say i play casually, i have like 200 hours in the last 2 weeks... but i just feel like 500 is my save space 😄
there's the gloves that have mobs target your minions more than you but idk how that ai works. def some testing to do but i gotta drop the items hah
let me say midcore then 😅
Only 1% of players go over 300 ever
you're also playing falconer
which is apparently giga op compared to all builds?
first time playing falconer so 🤷
same with me foxy
apparently mobs will automatically focus the bees
that is why i am in this chat, everyone is so helpful with it
For me, how much I play is casual compared to when I was younger
And that's gonna sound insane to someone taking a look at my gear this season
But oh boy if I didn't have a job
I'd make it my goal to look hero edited
i wfh but i've caught up on all my projects so i also have really been able to grind
my job has so much downtime when its slow that i play LE and random games like half the day
i get that, i used to grind out games like the world was ending in my younger years lmao
What I'm saying isn't even falconer related right
I could be playing the most degenerate obscure conversion channeling build or whatever
I'd still try to minmax it
but tbh that makes it fun right? 😄
i mean anything past 1 lp slams is already more than necessary right?
I don't play for what's necessary
I like loot
I'm an old d2 player I love turning off my brain and blasting
i like loot too @atomic vapor i collect everything purple and higher, my stash is a mess and i can't be bothered fixing it now
how much are your stash tabs now
well lets just say i put everything everywhere but i think 600k plus for astash tab lmao
jeez o
Nah my stash is ocd minmaxed
i'm at like 300k or so? and i have a really strict filter. but i do like to collect a few things
Otherwise I wouldn't be able to sleep at night
its weird because i know where everything is
if i only picked up items potentially worthwhile i'd have like 5 tabs only
I can't pick only good stuff this season
Not when I can pay a visit to the turtle
And gamba gamba gamba
is immortal vise good for ward builds too?
everything with purple and looks nice needs to come
why don't you just set up tab affinities
takes a minute but looks way cleaner
unless you just really rely on the stash search lol
Its okay I guess. Better for hybrid rather than fully ll
I don't need to search, unless it's my aberroth loot tabs for the egg
Everything else is burned to the back of my skull
The stuff I wanna search in the stash isn't searchable
Like dropping a null portent in the egg with 20% health
yeah thats like me too, i just know where stuff is and where to find it
Random but something I learned from the 10h 1-uber speedrun that I didn't know
Was gambling kris daggers in the eot early
That's such a giga strat early season
I feel bad for not having thought of it beforehand
is this just gambling for the base type once you hit monos for higher crit chance?
i never bothered with that before but I did always gamble for highest tier staff every time I hit monos on a caster to get more flat spell damage
its good to check that stuff
https://youtu.be/JF3zjPqLuuY?si=UN9kpH9HZWkpdIXf any translators in chat
Kris is the one with crit multi
Yeah base chance doesn't matter when leveling when you can blast the story with shadow daggers naked
and kris daggers are such a reliable multi source
ahh so same idea different stat
Does anyone have a planner for heartseeker marksman I could look at just to see where I should be going next with mine? I'm not a big fan of some of the choices maxroll makes.
I think that vid is comfy proccing a 4lp red ring but cant confirm
Wish I could translate his title atleast
next up, 4lp ravs
what was it one in 8 trillion
easy
@vernal zealot is it finally time for me to farm a majasa shield
I just can't stand a character who goes at snail pace
not the genre of games for that
I tried the dot version as well but it was superboring
Not just the pace, some builds are clunky
Use skill x and y to buff skill z
I hate hate hate generator/spenders
go into a pack
spam a 10 skill combo
things die on the 10th hit
Y lol
no thanks
even if the overall boss dps is bigger
taking 2 business days per pack puts me off immensely
Yeah gameplay has to be fluid
And honestly, for all people talk of how tanky paladin is... killing UA in 30 secs is still gonna be easier than most paladin kills
Build maybe giga tank but necrotic waves that reduce res will still get you nuked, where falcon just says "dodge" lol
not wasting my 4lp yet but upgrade I guess
how does ucenui's sphere work with umbral falconer? since my falcon/minions do all the "hits" ?
falcon throws umbral blades for you
so the umbrals themselves use your stats
sphere still isn't all that great though
I believe that ucenui's sphere is just for the extra cold dmg stat, everything else is just in the way
aside of the cold and lightning resistances ofc
yea no uber aberrroth definitely uses hte vacuum right after timeshattering slam in the final phase
its pretty consistent too
probably the hardest leech check because you cant hit him for a solid 3-5 seconds during that entire sequence
ok finally beat uberroth with flask marksman
level 97 and 1-2 LP gear lol
very solid build
poggg gz
tbh the main thing in that fight i uptime on staying in smoke bom as much as u can
i still think hail is best mm build hads down, flask is second and then hs
if multishot wasnt bugged maybe its also better than hs
i leveled with hail until i had starter 1lp gear for flask and it felt really slow
but its probably because it requires more gear to get working than flask
and the dark quiver pickup minigame slows it down more
but it definitely seems like it'd push the hardest with the crazy amount of defenses it can afford
hail scales infinetly with gear, i kill dummy in 28 sec on endgame setup, just adding uber relic and 2 t7 bow would give 60% more dmg to that
do u shoot hail with quiver on regular mobs? or just regular hail
no, you roll for the crystal stack then sjoot
i see
mh dark quiver is always on numlock tho csuse im lazy, but it matters only on bosses
u can also try to gear ward flask
i was thinking of it
but farming soul gamblers is extremely torturous on cof
i guess farming multi LP core will also be torturous
yeah for the core it works, i have a few 1 LPs from it so its definitely less annoying
i realized when i was leveling i didnt have crystalwind, which might explain why it felt slower
i had to pick up dark arrow for every mob
crystal is literally double dmg almost
then switched immediately to flask when i had the bare minimim 1 lps
dang, yeah ill retool for it
its 60% more
its kind of sad how weak chakrams is, it took me almost 7 min to beat the fight with offline build 3-4 LPs
flask at lvl 97 did it in 4:30

yeah i legit only have 1 LPs, 0 2 T7s, only have a bow with T7/T6
and on uber gear its 1 min
actual potato gear
i actually feel like it was decently stronger than when i 1st beat the fight with erasing strike 1-2 LP gear
it is. iirc endgame es is 3-4 min kill
yeah, i see some gflass cannon setups getting 1-2 min but those arent particularly good gauges of the builds general performance
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (15) / Marksman (53) / Falconer (18)
▸ Health: 3,162, Regen: 22.52/s
▸ Mana: 120.98, Regen: 11.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 18 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 322% / 90% / 127% / 82% / 89% / 60% / 65%
▸ Endurance: 52%, Threshold: 1,106
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (570)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,127)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%
probably i had gear farmable in like 5-10 hrs of endgame farm
everything unoptimized
funny eough i have more fire res on lvling full yellow items planner
thats what happens when you know how to make builds, i legit just monkey pilot interesting builds i see ppl make
i basically just wait for build updates from your channel and try them out since i pushed other builds far enough this season
Well im finishing my bd kill
Then i need to kill on surge sb
I dont think ill be killing it on explosive ballistas, looks like 9 min fight and im lazy
surge sb?
Ill make zombies video tho a cool mono build with 2 screen aoe nuke, for uber is abit tough tho
Surge spellblade
It hits for 50 mil every 3 sec on dummy
On budget
crazy
its good that all your builds work on budget as well, its really eaasy to get on my MG char and just gear out every one of your new builds
thank you, thats the idea
yeah, the builds have extended my playtime this season significantly as i like to try out many builds and clear pinnacle content vs taking one to its absolute max
you should try my first build with bear tornado druid, it was first druid that killed uber in season too
I did look into that build
My worry was it would cook my PC lol
I already have some really bad frame rate drops
yeeee
Like in my uber aberroth fights I basically have to predict like half a second ahead what he’ll do sometimes
My PC is not a potato either I can run most modern intensive games easily but LE for some reason is just really bad for me
is there a better planner to use for umbral blades falcon than the maxroll lizard one?
#🔪┃rogue message im the one who was just DMing you in game this is the character i was saying which was relatively low budget (basically all 1lps) that had a 40 second ubberoth kill
so its pretty optimized
if you scroll down a bit you can see some other people discussing it
I think someone else probably has a good aspirational planner floating around i've lost it and I think they were cooking up using mana affixes after 180 dex or something for more divebomb cdr
Ah tyty, looking now.
I got an optimised umbral blades bow variant too
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/I_grief_alot/character/heartsook @vast lily if you go bow variant
My boots are a little scuffed tried re rolling them lol
Thanks, I havnt been able to beat uberoth yet.
So i still have the cold dmg scale part until i get shattered..
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/AceHyperion/character/Hyperr
i was following the maxroll guide, but im finding im too squishy and not dealing enough dmg...
Giga kill. That's basically what, more or less my kill speed but with a few worse pieces? Awesome. Looks like those gloves really pay off
I haven't had any luck getting those gloves yet but I've been focusing on the helm (got a very decent one yesterday)
I need to get a throwing shattered worlds too, and start working on the jungle belt
Havent checked in a while but the max roll guide is probably giga outdated
If you want to stay with umbral blades specialised really priotise getting 2 oranates with 8%umbral blades dmg per shroud @vast lily
hmm, should I roll off of the cold dmg to phys, get rid of throne of ambition?
I never used throne at all tbh, the sphere and ornate were enough to get me my first few kills
hmm so not throne, but had the cold dmg on umbral blades skill?
Yeah, it probably would if been a good dps increase to keep throne in if possible though
Mostly wanna get your dex up
Disclaimer too, george and people here have alot more defensive focus cause they actively play monos on falconer, mine is exlusively uber killer
are my defenses okay? like I should be focusing on dmg?
So yours wasnt affected by the falconer nerf on 1.5?
I haven't played the game when the new patch dropped
Massively reworked i dont even run the node that got changed now
Ill give ubber a try with the unchanged build i have
oh wait, is the maxroll guide for it that cooked with new patch?
which build/planner?
With current gear we still get hard limited by invuln phases anyway
(64% by first time shatter, 34% by 2nd harby)
Juse's build
The whole umbral blade build came from him
But here is the build with the current equipment i have
before patch
that is
Im gonna probably drop to 200dex and get some more qol on gear (mana on gloves, helmet)
Should be about 20% cdr on AA for 20 dex which seems like goodge trade
im gonna time my target dummy kill tim,e idk how else to measure it..... but I think it's not good
The key to ubber for fast clearing is positioning
or clearing him in general
I suffered a lot in exchange i memorized all his sht
1min 40s I think for dummy kill
can do it with my eyes closed
I still sometimes smoke bomb into the abyss but yeah im pretty comfy with it now
This is my bread and butter just for no reason
I dont understand how people use auto hotkey for falconer
Oh i can see a massive issue already, skill priority works left to right hyperion
I just press smoke, get him marked, synchro and aa / dive bomb
pretty much yeah
You need AA in slot 1
yeah AA is leftmost slot
Aa>dive bomb> smoke bomb>falc(dont press) and in my case decoy
Its only 1 hit though so i didnt value it over specialised decoy
Which is 80 crit multi on decoy exploding
Im bow not traitors though
Oh yeah the fastest clearing one with umbral is the one with mines
so is my order wrong then?
right click for dive bomb is crazy work dont you think
i use smoke on my right click for movement
I wasd movement
No you look okay, but your bow right?
i am bow yes
If your bow i imagine you dont get much value out of sync strike right?
I dint remember what it gives
But if you want some priotity for gearing>ornate idols with ub per shroud, dex on red rings, better cdr on slots that isnt t7 roll
The idols end up being atleast like 1600% increased dmg when ramped
mmk tyty. do I need to swap to traps for better boss dmg?
Nope my linked planner is my uber set up
You would seap decoy for dark quiver for monos
Yeah keep in mind my kill doesn't have +1 shadows and I didn't have flat throw on helm either, and I don't have a good jungle belt
So my 38 can go all the way down to meru's 30 with a little rng and a few gear slots
What hp do you get by the first harby? I cant push past 64% @atomic vapor
Me neither, but I think the first phase is very hard to push compared to others because he becomes completely invulnerable on 64 compared to any other phase
You need giga burst like timerot
I doubt you can push even with 4lps everywhere
Yeah ive been thinking that, after that its just heavy DR on all other phase transitions
hey rogues will this
interfere with
on a cold marksman heartseeker build?
cause - cold res stacking dex will make it hard to overcap cold res
You will still want to use boots regardless
I do realize flat dmg is flat dmg
But what if i free idols space not needing to cover those cold and phys res penality from the boots and i feel them with those + 6 bow flat dmg weaver idols instead?
Nothing comes close to the flat cold you get from those boots, that's why it has such a giga drawback
It's too steep still imo, since way more busted items exist with no drawback
But it is what it is
Dex doesn't give only flat bow. It also gives flat spell and recurve chance. You won't be able to get flat spell anywhere else in that amounts
And flat throw too, in case you are using umbrals like me
Doesn't fire still scale cold from ucenui
I don't remember off the top of my head but dragonsong setups don't have a lot of increased dmg outside of relic but I could be wrong I haven't looked at the build in so long
hmm i got 2 ornates with umbral 8%, and i swear i'm doing the same dmg as before, 1min 40s on dummy 😦
How many dusk shrouds are you generating?
It should be night and day
avg on dummy is like 45
holding down, dive, AA and smoke bomb
Weird, it might just be a breakpoint thing because thats like less than 5m dps
as in i need more dex? or?
Yes
Yeah ideally 180-200 but that shouldnt stop seeing a huge bump just from idols
100 dex is 400, sharpshooter is another 250. And a bit of extra from different places
I completely forgot about sharpshooter
i swapped off cold dmg on umbral, and swapped my quiver to what I had ready.
and got it down to 1m flat on dummy.
Swap off the sphere relic if going pure phys also
idk if I have a half decent alternative. but can look
Is there a rogue relic with crit multi? Right now youll only get the res+whatever you slammed on sphere
yeh its a half decent sphere
does bow attack speed give anything benefical at all?
No, and honestly phys dmg isnt great either
We get so much increased% from shrouds
There's nothing else to get on prefixes, other than dex ofc. With shattered worlds you're pretty much locked to dex and increased phys%
So, umbrella blades, is it better with x2 daggers or the bow ?
It's too tight to matter
We're talking literal couple seconds of a difference
Use whatever you like
did they patch or nerf the traps umbral blades build?
Yes it's "dead"
And that wasn't a build that scaled umbrals anyway
It scaled dive bomb
Can i get some pointers, damage seems low https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe00Jk5A
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (9) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (60)
▸ Health: 1,895, Regen: 36.64/s
▸ Mana: 239.85, Regen: 11.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 142 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 115% / 135% / 101% / 140% / 64% / 59% / 64%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 379
▸ Dodge Chance: 38% (1202)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,453)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%
Your dexterity is currently a little too low to play dive bomb. Dive bomb damage scales with the amount of umbral blades on the ground. With your current build it looks like you're trying to do two things at the same time which obviously doesn't work. You're specced into bladestorm while scaling dive bomb from midnight aviary, which means your dive bombs do very little damage compared to what the build can do. If you want to commit to playing dive bomb, you need unspecced bladestorms. But you will do more damage with umbrals at your current gear, because you get a gigaton of increased damage from the idols (which you should get asap)
If you do wanna play umbrals, unspec midnight aviary and get flock of crows. Turn off the cold tag from umbrals and keep the bladestorm specced, and since you're scaling more damage per movement speed from the rogue passive, get the movement speed buff from falconry
Also, if you do swap to scaling umbrals, the bottom left passives on falconer provide very little benefit, so you should reallocate those elsewhere
If you are confident in your ability to not get hit in boss fights, concentration is a great more multiplier, otherwise you can also get Once from the bladedancer tree
You can get throw dmg prefix on relic but yeah you are right most prefixes are dead on quiver
Yeah I only was referring to quiver there
Mana should be rollable on quivers pog
Flat damage should
Hi everyone. I'm new to the game. Rocking a judgement paladin right now in act 6.
But i know i'll definitely be rocking an ice heatseeker build afterwards.
Would some kind soul make me a list of gear to be on the lookout for so i can add it to my paladin loot filter ?
Ucenui, toraka's teeth, mourningfrost, and ravenous void
I assume you already have red rings and nihilis
Act 6 is a bold place to assume they have red rings hahaha
I just read that part, scratch that
Add those too 😭
Just know most of them will drop way way later
You can still get the quiver in story though
And probably the relic too
Bro just farmed act 5 boss till they dropped easy
I got dragonsong from my first ever ascendance
The only time I didn't level with shadow daggers
I just spammed yoga flame all story
I 1st timed my razorfalls when i started on falc
Didnt realise how lucky i got lol
Also is champion imprint node actually bait
I cant recall any time getting a proc off it
Yeah it seems giga deadge actually, legit had more procs from sepulchre
I still put some sepulchers if I loot them
I don't buy them tho
Mainly because of the idol rerolls tbh
Ive lost a few troves cause of folley mobs
Giga brew belt is stonks
Since then i just stopped using folley and replaced middle with sepulchre
Yeah i should probably have some alternate not zhp gear
Pig ammys and brew belt are my favorite season 2 additions. The game lacked good all around uniques with many useful but not giga cracked stats
It felt like the best of that kind were the lightless uniques and that's it
And honestly the lightless just have some weird things that make them awkwars to build around
Thank you George !
No problem
wtb more forging potential
I don't even know what those are 😆
Does this mean i'm still gonna see all the necessary stuff for ice hearthseeker even with the loot filter ?
We would have to see which affixes are selected to know for sure
Server buff when i log out i guess 
Its so hard to keep going after spending all your amber and getting 0 useable bases lol
I did drop an almost perfect peak today though so bright side, when i get my slam itll be good lol
I’m in the same boat. What’s the next best farming strat to get more amber when you’re all out.
Cemetery of reweaving/lostwood folley in black sun specifically
what does black sun add?
Cemetary of reweaving has diff layouts depending on timeline
ohh
And i found black sun to be the most preferable
Purely timeline based
makes sense
Its the forge layout in black sun, ive tried other spots and found they all have back tracking apart from that one
@atomic vapor do you find t776 helmets to proc more than t77?
nope, I haven't procced a single t7 t7 t6 yet
I swapped my exalt base to t77 suffix from t767 to try and be more reliable on havocing, and didnt get any procs after lol
also random but W
generally yes but I haven't in a long time
party perks = trove rotation
not that' I'm getting anythign right now
Yeah i really should just trove rota...
Can you sustain amber if you do full party folley troves?
yeeah
Oh jesus
only 770k aber? easy
Thats like 100hours of farming cemetary LMAO
well he could have gotten em early in one of the bugs that was available early on
could have xD
I wish i abused infinite troves more
btw you did realize that was me in the ingame chat right? ;D
Yeah i guessed you were somebody talking haha
was the guy that said you have 3 geared chars, tried to give myself away
figured you'd catch on
Haha nope, it was when you said something about troves with the homies though
so i just noticed you guys are talking about stealth nerfs to troves which is funny because just yesterday EHG said "imprint is working as expected but it has more possible outcomes than you probably think" which screams stealth nerf to me
they probably added more possibilites to imprints
ohhh right I said that too
like chaning more types of stuff that cause items to not show up on filters now
I haven't gotten a lot of procs today
like 5-6
They probably mean how imprinting has like 50 variations
i feel like they added more
I don't know
And we only think of 7 or 8
like how adding more chances other than specific unique totally didn't reduce the rate of red ring imprints (it reduced it by like 95% in testing)
So real though
They havent had any patch or hotfix recently right
I'll keep blasting and keep observing
they reowrked falconer 5 weeks into league
That was a knee jerk fix imo
I'm gonna keep a goodwill here and say bad luck today
That streamer reported it and days later it got fixed
its funny though becuase i was looking around in other channels, and other classes use way worse bugs directly and understanding exactly what is being abused
but those wont get fixed because its not meta
like theres a bug with runemaster where they just get 300% more damage on all invocatiosn always
if they never hardcast invoke
balancing is different than loot
Lmao yeah im pretty sure theres something completely bugged and applying multiple times on time rot too
Like some part of the calculation is double dipping
pretty sure there's a spreadsheet to work out your time rot DPS and what affixes are best for you etc going around and time rot damage is lining up with the theory more or less exactly as it should
rot grip is just a hell of a node and some sentinel skills have some big multipliers for ailment application
@vernal zealot game is telling me I can now farm for a talon setup as well lmaoo
I wonder how long it would take imprint to generate the slow quiver
Pog!!! Already correct mod
The only useful prefix lmao
nemesis initial step t7 dex too, was like
ok let's see if it goes double
and it did lol
I imagine pretty decent right because that base cant be dropped normally?
yes but i don't care about the flat crit since you crit cap anyway with shattered worlds
but the more modifier on slow is so juicy
it makes up for the lack of a second good prefix lol
Yeah so itll have to drop a random base every time your imprint procs i imagine @atomic vapor
yes I really do believe that's the best possible imprint other than the base itself lol
because if it can't generate THAT base, all bases should have an equal chance
mike said in yesterday's stream
the first thing the imprint system does is try to roll the exact same item as slotted
https://youtu.be/D3w1gvk2obM @vernal zealot this is the farthest I can get the first phase with my current gear
I've tried like 20 times? the shield stops exactly there every single time
also new personal best I guess
Could someone link me to a resource that explains how to maximize ward in a build?
Retention vs decay vs per sec etc
this isn't really a guide but you can play with the sliders to see what happens
might help give context to some other writen guide that you arn't understanding
There is one serious bug with time rot builds but its not timerot directly, its anomaly ailment node
Otherwise it works fine
There are 6 different cemetery layouts. 3/2/2/1/1/1 in terms of shared timelines
Only 3/4 of them seem to really be fairly linear without backtracking
I have screenshots of all the layouts bc I was wondering what it was like
Would you say black sun is the best from your testing too then?
Interesting, might make the giga time rot build do you have to zhp for fast kills?
anyone have a good MM build ? heartseeker or Hail of Storm for lv 70-
I'm enjoying heartseeker gameplay
I went cold cause my autism can't tolerate mixed flat dmg scaling from boots
But probably dragonsong is a better bow all around
For builds you can check LE tools
Go to marksman and you find plenty hs builds
just hit this triple exalt 7 7 6
big upgrade from my old belt.
Very nice
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (65) / Falconer (13)
▸ Health: 4,063, Regen: 36.8/s
▸ Mana: 186.69, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 145 Dex / 12 Int / 24 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 114% / 118% / 151% / 109% / 78% / 95% / 77%
▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 1,446
▸ Dodge Chance: 49% (1831)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,510)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%
Puncture / Shift / Heartseeker / Dark Quiver / Smoke Bomb
the website stats seems to be so weird. like not accurate
@vernal zealot I got 2 red rings with dex now, however my void res is back down to 75%. for blessings the guide was steering me towards dodge rating + crit strike avoidance. should I swap to all res instead?
It’s the second best imo the reign of dragon one is slightly better since black sun still has a few pockets if you’re full clearing you have to go into
If your 75% res id stick with crit avoid, even with perfect blessing null would only giving 5% DR
Dodge is good tho too
Is rod that one where its a few small islands with bridges betweeb?
Yea
https://youtu.be/yyKplG-of-s?si=jcyI-1VjIzUQYFNy okay can somebody explain this lol
I legit have better gear than him 
Nvm he focused way more on throw dmg over dex
how do you farm +1 maximum shadow gloves
Mirage champion only drop
ah, is li'raka's claws viable until I get +1 maximum shadow gloves?
How's everyone
Ive heard people use them yeah they might even be a dps increase, havent test though
@atomic vapor wake up new comfy tech dropped
alright thnx
If you use shift to recall umbral blades it makes all featherfall hit LMAO
Jumping on to testge
Oh yeah I was thinking about that a while ago but I was unsure of whether all of the recalled blades would go through the target. It probably sucks immensely for mapping
But yeah that's clearly the extra damage needed to push that first phase at which point it just instant pops
Also
The passive tree is like giga unoptimized for damage, comfy probably didn't even bother to change anything since it kills anyway
More from slow and concentration were enough
I just 50%-0% target dummy, its weird because of smoke bomb and shift being transversal
give it a shot on maps I'm curious
Guga terrible hahahah
I had to do a mono for relevelling skills (no xp nodes handy)
yeah it's a nice proof of concept thing just like the detonating arrow explosive trap meme but
Speccing into it just to save half a minute on Uber
how long did it take you to get the gloves
should I even bother
I feel like it's too much effort for overkill
It seems i cant insta refresh AA too
I just had the champion affix and gloves on filter and wasnt planning to go too hard for them
Dropped, hit a redemption and now gucci
yeah swag
might just use up my maps
next cemetary
I just don't care enough I'll be real lol
Yeah 100% i feel that bro i was watching one piece and seen it hit my feed lol
GIGA jank i think you have to be on m+k cause my daggers go nowhere near
oh well expected
I'm probably being a little too greedy as is
I'd like a sub 30second kill
if it happens it happens
Managed to get a 650m proc on dummy
But its a positioning thing, if your too close daggers seem to pierce?
it's the same thing with dusk shroud stacks
you don't get as many on dummy due to size
uber is massive
Will try again with legacy aiming on sometines that fixes things that proc from triggers
100-83% in one "hit'
yeah it's pretty clear what it does
Back to one piece aftwe that little break LMAO
lmao 😭
almost like you were woken up mid sleep all like?
what oh busted interaction
ok back to sleep
Unironically its not even that busted
Same as doing it on time rot or swamblade with less mapping potential lol
I will miss all this complete lack of balance in season 3
no matter what itemization comes
the overall power level will be lower purely because of the incoming nerfs
Yeah i was taljing about this about minions like
When snapshotting is removed unless they give stuff 10x multipliers its gonna be a nerf lol
I fully expect all minions to be completely cooked post snapshot fix
-1 archetype to balance atleast haha
Holyyyy nice
I had a spare pair of maxed purples
And a dream
That should legit melt big man now
I'm playing with my buds rn, I wanna see if this is enough to push phase 1
if it isn't, then the +1 shadow is b u s t e d
I think its all about 1 big dmg hit
Where falcon does 1million dmg 50times a sec lol
Everything i seen thats skipping phases seems to only have 1 big dmg instance
yeah that's exactly the problem
and I'm not willing to spec into a disfunctional build
Yeah do not do the comfy i cant stress how bad it is hahaha
Legit 1 umbral dagger that cant pierce hahaha
It would be hard to find something that would be less clunk, idk if the +1 shadow is even that good compared to 130 crit multi
I don't even know honestly
when I'm alone I'll try an uber kill
like generally speaking it would be hard to gauge because of rolls, but I literally have maxroller lirakas so it shouldn't be that hard
if ur doing umbral its just more damage than blood roost but idk about exalted with +1 shadow
Doing lizards umbral Falconer build here: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/umbral-blades-falconer-guide
But I know there are a lot of people saying +1 shadow gloves are an improvement over blood roost and maybe daggers might be better? I don't disagree at all as I haven't tested but with the goal of killing uberroth, does anyone have a build guide to a stronger build? I'm level 85 or so and about to start slamming some exalts to push corruption higher (200 currently)
How do i get +1 shadow gloves? Like best place to farm
It's a champion mod. I run all the champ nodes in my weaver tree and just run. Still only gotten 3 pairs and none with the cooldown implicit
Ugh, thsnks! 😮
The shadow mod itself doesnt need to be exalted, its still +1
Anyone using steamdeck ?
@vernal zealot what are the other good rolls on the 8% umbral ornate idols? besides armor shred
Honeslty there isnt much apart from %increased throwing attack dmg* i dont thibj
Think*
yeah. what about the weaver enchant? i got some bow crit chance but i think thats p useless
Crit multi/cooldown recovery both seem to be just as good
I like cdr personally but I cannot hit more than t6 for the life of me
Im 50/50 on cdr v crit multi cause its only 6% with 2 max rolls right? Vs 26 crit multi
Im trying this puncture One Shot later 😂
I’ve been running this build all season and approaching 160 uber aberroth kills. I’m using 2LP blood roosts and haven’t tried the +1 shadow gloves. The blood roosts still get the job done but you need to slam the dex + throw dmg slam
is there a new tech for puncture?
All I needed to know, thanks! Also found some 3500C juse videos and blood roost goes far so I'll probably just rock it. Appreciate it
Be careful cause i dont think juse posted since falcon bugfix
At least one of his videos says post nerf but...it was late when I watched.
Ahhh yeah make sure its post nerf, comfy3k has some good planners but you gotta translate xdd
Blood roost with dex and throw dmg will always be goodge, i havent tested anything other than them and very well rolled +shadow gloves
Fwiw i havent ever tested champion farming in "rune prism complex" by taking the accompanied by champion node, champ affix stuff might still drop if you leave and rejoin
Is that the one with like 8 exiled mages? Hmmm
Think its 5 per area and 4 areas, so you should average like 10 champions
Nice
because MG sucks.
Isnt the ariel asault umbral blade targeting bug fixed? my blades still seem to just pop off in random spots and not where im wanting them to
Quick question. Only give me a yes or no please. Can I get far, and by that I mean around 300 corruption, with multishot/flurry in hardcore without having ultra minmaxed gear?
yes
just hit empowered monos with the rogue leveling building on maxroll, really struggling with damage in empowered mono's right now. I am planning on switching to the umbral blades build on maxroll but the guide stresses about have a talons of valor with bow speed and crit on it. I havent gotten lucky with the nemesis to land those on a talon yet. Should i make the switch regardless to the engame umbral blade build?
I assume you’ve been farming CoF prophecies for the bow, and also stacking your weaver tree with the bow to get a couple LP on one? You only mentioned trying to get one with a nemesis
I have a 2 lp talon just haven't found anything worth slamming into it yet
What's killing me now is the struggle using the leveling build in empowered monos it feel off hard after normal monos at least with the gear I have on it
Has anyone tried mana-stacking markman build? I see many passive nodes that give %more damage per mana, wondering how viable would it be?
I'm slowing building a stockpile of chests and helmets for such a build, but just wanna see if anyone has played similar things before.
i havent slammed my talon at all and cruising around 250 corruption right now. working on getting some slammable stuff as well and need to visit the turtle/strife to slim down my collection of bows
question from me now - how do the scaling tags work with falconry?
scaling tags: minion, companion, dex
minion tags: physical, melee, throwing attack
does one part of the skill scale form different tags? am i looking for (for example) minion throwing attack? just curiuos about something like this specifically.
also - the umbral blades falconer build looks like its main focus is to scale the umbral blades that are thrown during dive bomb, so scaling minion damage is...pointless?
it throws during aa but uses your stats so yes minion damage not good
so when using minion/falcon skills (that require falconry to be on the bar like dive bomb, AA etc.) it will use the minion tags, but the falconry skill scales from its main minion/companion/dex? the question is using falconry as example but i have 0 experience with dual tagged skills
the damage from aa and dive bomb themselves would be scaled with minion dmg but they don't deal that much if you are umbral
can confirm it drops not sure how good it is though
idk what im doing wrong. I feel like i have plenty of gear, deecent dmg decent defeences. but cannot for the life of me beat uber aberoth. Get to last phase and just cannot surive, usually too much puprle puddles + beams everywhere.
profile is here if anyone wants a gander
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/AceHyperion/character/Hyperr
1: you can min max to get even more damage
2: if you really think your character is already decent geared, then it might be a you issue.
I'll try time myself when i get to certain phases. I can kill bosss dummy in 45 secs.
You arent specced into cold conversion on umbral blades which is making sphere effecticely useless
Missing flat throw dmg on nihils which is probably 20-30% dmg
Dex on quiver needed, +2 throw skills on razofall would be better, t7 cdr on belt, no mana gained on hit with db
Do you not run out of mana like all the time without them nodes?
Is there any build that can push corrupted up to 10k?
Yeah the normal umbral blades falconer stuff @lyric narwhal
another upgrade today
ooo giga
last and final project. my helmet. after that i think im done min maxing this heartseeker.
It's that I have phys + on nihils and quiver, I feel like I'm doing more dmg with phys, but should test. The orb also has like good throwing and dex on it that idk wat to replace it with.
I don't loose any mana.... Idk.
Defs could do with a better nihils with throwing. And dex on quiv
My exalted equipment has 2 affixes, can it be combined with legends?
Go 1/4 rushing wings in dive bomb and put the extra points in the cdr reduction.
Other than that just T7 affixes on important gear: crit on bow, throw dmg on amulet, cdr on belt/boots
I think you should be able to clear with only the dive bomb change tho. Stay in shadow shroud and keep it on uberroth
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (61)
▸ Health: 2,403, Regen: 30.42/s
▸ Mana: 162.99, Regen: 11.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 210 Dex / 20 Int / 20 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 77% / 77% / 68% / 77% / 63% / 68%
▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 841
▸ Dodge Chance: 54% (2118)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,460)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 76%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 85%
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Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)
▸ Health: 1,445, Regen: 42.2/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 201 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 36% / 36% / 36% / 36% / 73% / 55% / 60%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 289
▸ Dodge Chance: 74% (4574)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (675)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 43%
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)
▸ Health: 2,279, Regen: 27/s
▸ Mana: 158.61, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 52%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 225 Dex / 26 Int / 26 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 82% / 82% / 82% / 82% / 108% / 113%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 456
▸ Dodge Chance: 69% (3656)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 53% (3,467)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 35%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 62%
Which of these 3 builds is the best?
do we need to use spidersilk quiver btw? bc of the implicit?
@pine hatch Juiced
I havent tested too much with bow, i switched to daggers. Spiders 10% is good for umbral dmg but doesnt buff falcons i think
So prob a quiver with better affixes would be better. Rn crit cap > cdr > dex imo for you before thinking about a small base implicit on quiver
im def seeing a large increase with just the 2 CDR talent changes
Yup i learned the hard way - you DONT want the original dive bomb to hit
keep in mind the implicit on quiver is multiplicative
I think it's far better than any affix you can have
quiver only gets dex
huh?
the second prefix can only be increased dmg which umbrals has a gigantic deposit
just found a decent LP3 belt and bow.... but now finding a decent donor....
So that node i told you to spec out of - reduces the delay of dive bomb. So that means your dive bomb will land quickly
A mechanic of dive bomb is if you cast another falcon skill (aerial assault or strikes), and it cancels the falcons dive bomb it refunds 70% of cdr (and mana cost)
By making sure the original dive bomb doesnt hit, you reduce the cd, can spam more casts of the dive bomb which spawn more shadows to hit
Is there a way to reduce Heartseeker mana cost to 0 so it could benefit from the 0 mana cost passives?
Also try swapping your crit multi blessing to crit chance
Quiver to ANY quiver with dex/crit chance/armor shred/void res
I think those are the simplest things for maximum dps increases now that the skill tree nodes were changed.
T7 nihilis throw dmg would be huge too, sucks cause the one you have is so well rolled!
hmm should i be swapping into those cold nodes in umbral blades?
Yeah do that too, but it shouldnt be a huge dps increase tbh
Now that i think about it, it could actually be a dps decrease even..not too significant tho either way
noice finallly killed him tyvm for help to you and grief(ill save him the ping)
its always a skill issue never a build issue
Hell yeah nice
wish i could see the amount of attempts
How much more dmg were you doing?
You can see your deaths and try to estimate it lol
1st phase dmg check i heard/was previously just getting to the 80% hp 80% sheild. This time it was like 80% shield maybe 20% sheild.
Just checked boss dummy kill was 24 seconds. instead of 45 before.
Thats huge. Nearly double the damage then
i was seeing dusk shrouds nearly double too on the dummy, must have been the CDR.
never changed to the cold dmg either
I wish i wasn't constantly rolling for HP% before i looked outside of the maxroll planner
Its the dive bomb node. Spec 4/4 into it and check again
Hp is good for mapping, not that great for uberroth once u can dps check him
Yeah i checked the math. Cold will actually do less dmg. Shattered relic will be a good upgrade now
will have to check it out and farm it a bit more tomorrow. time to sleep, was up way too late last night. suprised I wasnt too tired to even get a kill tonight.
GGs, ty again forthe help. I bashed my head for a lonnnng time against that boss.
Hahaha we’ve all been there against that trash boss. Sleep like a king now bro
Hello friends, my Umbral Blade is very weak at level 76, at what level does it start to get stronger?
only gear ?
Umbral blade should be giga from start
On dragonsong heartseeker any ring suggestions. Build guide I am following only has red rings and I don't have those yet
Just tried to fill resist and something towards the build. One with cold dmg is crap but had the void resist on it
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8XDP0yA
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (48) / Falconer (13)
▸ Health: 1,714, Regen: 30.2/s
▸ Mana: 192.25, Regen: 9.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 27%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 43 Dex / 10 Int / 34 Att / 34 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 73% / 86% / 105% / 68% / 122% / 61%
▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 600
▸ Dodge Chance: 15% (454)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (800)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 77%
Heartseeker / Cinder Strike / Shurikens / Shift / Smoke Bomb
Umbral Falconeeds help!
Critique needed!
Downing ordinary Abby like it’s nothing, but getting killed by Uber like it’s nothing.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B58KxP6Q
I’ve followed Maxroll’s guide up until now. Where can I squeeze out the last juice?
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Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (22) / Falconer (61)
▸ Health: 2,606, Regen: 35/s
▸ Mana: 247.86, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 127 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 100% / 100% / 76% / 69% / 147% / 96%
▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 521
▸ Dodge Chance: 52% (1996)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,043)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 21%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 80%
looking good to me. you're missing one point of dex in the passive tree but that's it
I'd max this out
Thanks for the feedback. What would you scale down instead?
I'm running this at 2/4 and I'm consistently at max shadows (you have a max shadows indicator at your buffs) I think it's largely unnecessary maxed out
How do I know what my max shadows are? 😄
Cheers. I'm at three as well with only two points.
for uber in particular, something you can do to burst phases faster, is remove points from here
and go for this
it's a lot of flat damage
but it'll make you significantly less tanky for maps
that however will only work best after you switch relics (so after you manage to farm uber consistently)
becuase right now your umbrals deal cold damage
Got ya. I was considering going for a ucenui with dex+throwing damage and forego some survivability
same for gloves.
that's what I went for and sometimes I do get sniped at 1k corruption
That's not even the same gloves I'm playing 😄
these are basically "go all out on damage" gloves, to which the bigger upgrade would be purple cdr gloves with a +1 max shadows champion sealed affix
What would be your next item slot where you'd look for an upgrade?
I have a Nihilis with LP1, but only +1 skills. Could go dex on that.
or throwing damage
it's very worthwhile to farm a better one
put on a good yt playlist and kill normal over and over
Consider it done. But first to farm harbinger eyes.
other than that, check if you're crit capped
you are not. I'd go crit blessing over multi blessing (black sun)
or you can use one of these
I guess you can also farm for a better peak of the mountain if yours rolled low but all your crit problems should get solved once you switch to uber relic
for now use the blessing
also I just realized, you don't have umbrals idols yet?
get two of these
(use one of them until you are in a position to switch the unique relic out I guess)
@atomic vapor comfy vid just got posted, 28sec kill using firestarters torch LMAO
Dude is so giga brained
https://youtu.be/e8KSmvFPcww?si=kZ7Z5wiRycKE2sL5 normal UB spec that still clears monos too
how come only 28 with so much tech. I'm at 30 and I don't even have the shadow gloves
I guess minmaxing really hit the cap at this point
Your gloves could actually just be better than shadowss glovess tbh@atomic vapor
idk dude I imagine 4 falcons ramp up stacks like crazy
kinda jealous not gonna lie lmaoo
I can sometimes peak 180 shrouds
I can't go past 140
Maybe 200 briefly if the harby jumps in at the right time
Yeah sounds about exactly right, but the huge crit multi probably ourweighs %incressed, especially with your idols having %inc dmg
Coupld be worth trying a firestarters though, didn't realise its just 40% more dmg
Hi, I want to give falconer a try but I don't know which build I should do. There is an umbral blades falconer guide using a bow on maxroll. But I also see variations using 2 daggers. Also some seem to drop umbral blades?
I'm mainly looking for a build that lets me easily farm uber aberroth but also has a good time farming echoes to get the gear in the first place. Which one should I go for and what are the advantages and disadvantages of which build?
I have already played another character and have access to some gear, also an LP1 shattered worlds and LP1 red ring if it matters
Long and short of it maxroll is kinda outdated, most peopke are doing umbral blades... the dmg difference between bow aqnd dual daggers is almost negligible at top gear
Nomad, crab, oceareon
Ok, is there an up to date guide you can recommend? I heard that some builds on youtube are also outdated because there was some kind of patch that touched some falconer stuff?
Theres been quite a few planners posted recently, the bow and quiver max roll version isnt too bad you just need 2 idols with "umbral blades dmg per dusk shroud"
Ayyy nice with double traitors?
Yess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui8F_IgnB9Y doubt it'll embed but whatever
Gonna post it on videos, I doubt I can get it lower than this
Yeah that was pretty much a perfect kill bro your timing on time shattering slam was insane
It's such a massive grind to make it pixel perfect 😭
Maybe that's me sucking at game
I bet this character in the hands of someone better can shave off a couple seconds more
if I manage to make a jungle belt with throw and cdr, I wouldn't be surprised if I can delete the last phase instantly
that's the biggest time loss
I think you can probably rng kill the 1st harby a little faster
yes that too probably
She survives like half a sec but really thats as close to perfect, you skip all mechanics pretty much
No superchilled or super fire
Yeah for sure, i dont think a like 200% increased dmg is competing with double t7 rolls and 120 crit multi
I was thnking, no matter how hard they nerf falc, I bet with this gear it'll still be pushing top dps in season 3
Of course I'm rolling something else next season but it's funny to think
20% chance to remove cooldown gets an intrrnal cooldown
yeah cdr was the first thing they mentioned in that post
But even with a big nerf its also still gonna be versatile and with glancing+dodge its actually almost as high ehp as a tanky erasing striker anyway
Like even when i mess up and he does triple slam, it never hits anyway lmao
If it's actually viable, I think it'd be hilarious if I pushed another falc season 3 😭
this is the tech I used for the kill
I think this is as "dps" as it gets, completely ignoring falcon/dive bombs and going all in on umbrals
my only debate is here, wait
I was messing around with the shadow dagger node in umbral but i couldn't see if it gained the dmg from shrouds
100% increased dmg from movement speed vs 5 flat physical
Or whether it even works lmao, its hard to tell with so much dmg
shadow dagger scales with physical, multi and pen so I figured it's good investment for 1 point
also
this is what sold it for me
50% multiplicative
I still like some outside sources of increased dmg for when we are ramping
It felt like such an easy choice
5 flat is probably less than 5% total dmg but not sure
what else am I using that's weird let me check
Have you tried specced falconry v decoy
I imagine specced falconry is much better on dual traitors cause of how much crit multi you already have
I dropped the 30 stats on dive bomb and got the 1% more per bleed because I'm reaching around 100 bleeds single target so I figured that's the biggest dive bomb increase for minimum investment (I legit considered dropping points into midnight aviary as well)
Also I added 1 shred because it helps me hit 80 stacks consistently
(I took crimson shroud for mapping, that can actually go to midnight aviary)
I haven't but it could be something I can toy with
I mean how many stacks would that give me just to buff dive bomb that isn't the main focus anyway, idk
oh something cool I'm doing
slow on caltrops
permanent 3 slow stacks
Very nice for traitors version, deadge on quiver
exactly yeah 😭
Maybe try dropping the crit vuln node on db and put it in bleed stack?
hmmmmmm true that's pretty useless
but I'm not gonna lie it makes crit avoidance maps such a breeze
Bro you got 700k amber what da heck you running regular monos for 
I started speedrunning normal maps to test how fast I can proc the echo reward imprint
Because the stupid troves don't accept jewelry
You gotta get a weird balance for echo procs too, its only the max chance if you get full stability
I've got a giga 2lp nihilis that I still haven't slammed, because I don't have a throw+pen double t7 yet
wait
I'm not gonna let the season end before bricking this
#pledge
Its why i kinda stopped messing with sepulchre, they dont have stability so its like minimum chance to imprint proc i thinj
makes complete sense
what ur saying is that troves might still be the fastest for echo rewards
because one run maxes it out
Otherwise if every chest was 50% we would know by now haha
I hate that we don't have solid numbers for things, it messes so much with my ocd because I can only make decisions in a vacuum
Yeah stunlocked on cemetary screen lol*
enter exit enter exit enter exit 😭
Troves would be soul crushing for fastest imprint procs but
Kinda logical
Maybe look at arena echoes with the -rounds nodes?
They usually max stability and if you go super arena have 2 champions
My issue with that is that it giga slows down the other imprint nodes
Yeah... maybe troves is probably the play for everything
Troves surrounding sepulch stilll... sound familiar? Lol
we will never escape this stupid meta lool
Unless theres a goodge layout gear for xyz character that can still be done fast for stability
what corruption can crit flurry take you to?
first one this season, too bad I don't use it
Is flurry bugged? The extra range node doesn't seem to work and the damage is inconsistent with the shockwaves. It's like they eat at each other instead of working together so your damage gets reduced unless if you miss the shockwaves and land the actual flurry blow
https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/flurry_wave teh shockwaves dont hit targets hit by flurry
and it only has 50% damage effectivness instead of flurrys 80% (which is already bad) so you will do less damage if you only hit with that
i have a 4 to all skills, 5% crit base 1lp talons - is it hard enough to get the rolls i want/need that i should keep that and turtle/nem it in hopes it gets 2/3LP or should i slam it and then strife/turtle/nem all the other 3% crit base/not full skill bows? i have a bunch, but the bow i've been using is a 2lp, 3% base and missing 2 skills in falconry but i havent slammed it cuz i dont have a good bow yet for 2lp
nvm, slammed the 1lp and what a difference, damn
I want to play Lethal Mirage bladedancer but I don't want to wait until I have a Black Blade of Chaos to do it. What's the play here? Just...don't play it? Play a different build?
Is there some sort of, like, interim build that works?
@atomic vapor wanna share ur planner?
Maybe use fulgurite shard until you get the black blade?
yeah i also think it's bugged
something's off
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (23) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (58)
▸ Health: 2,445, Regen: 28.32/s
▸ Mana: 266.01, Regen: 10.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 54%, Regen: 36/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 174 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 66% / 66% / 92% / 59% / 58% / 63%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 856
▸ Dodge Chance: 44% (1596)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,110)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 70%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%
Is this build ok everyone =))))
Thanks 🙂
For falconer, is a 4 LP potm with 255% increased crit better or a 3LP with 285% increased crit?
Unfortunately yeah, LM is clunky af without it. You can use it, but it'll be a supplementary skill for when you're killing bosses. You could do something with puncture and shadow cascade until you get it
try putting it on and see if you still have capped crit?
Can I replace it with another ring, or use this unique ring without Lp
Theres a ring that gives minion crit+base crit thats also good in that slot ideally you want RR for dmg reduction though
penumbra is great
https://youtu.be/wRJ-cVx6KT4?t=273 I remember this guy talking about it, the flurry bug with that node
@vernal zealot AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yeah uou will never get the same value as red ring but
HELLO?
Holy moly the glive farm begins again
Dudeeee I don't have a triple t7 😭
Inb4 you drop champion affix gloves before uogrsde
new farm target unlocked
Dex crit multi health/health angle?
we're back to the grind bois
Ive been chilling doing a modded playthrough on bl3 atm
moze best girl
Im doing rebalands mod on fl4k atm, moze is so comfy thoufh
Im gonna do moze next but just start at max level
I'm currently trying to achieve an endgame build for Heartseeker Marksman, following the maxroll build guide. The problem with the guide is multiple pieces of endgame gear are extremely rare. I do have every item except the rings, gloves and chest armour from that build. While I work my way towards those though I'm wondering what I can slot in for those slots. I'm still running around with a rare belt and rings, a pair of gloves from another build and a chest piece that is less than optimal. My current build looks like this - https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7vkKbzQ
I can run corruption level 300 or so. Sometimes the echoes are easy and sometimes they are a struggle. I'd like to get further in corruption levels and maybe make character life a bit easier. What gear and attributes should I realisitically be hunting rather than the maxroll "endgame" stuff, which is more aspirational than endgame inho.
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5
Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (62) / Falconer (16)
▸ Health: 2,076, Regen: 36.34/s
▸ Mana: 275.51, Regen: 10.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 50 Dex / 9 Int / 9 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 58% / 72% / 96% / 73% / 38% / 80% / 92%
▸ Endurance: 48%, Threshold: 726
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (752)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (741)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 19%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 49%
Shift / Puncture / Heartseeker / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens
I got duplicate 3lp claws before the guaranteed slam existed and one bricked, and the other took the one T7 but also the one stat I didn't want it to
pain
I got double t7 gloves with 100% meme stats
Damnnn those gloves are crazy George
thanks man ❤️ now to grind for purple gloves
Huh
surely +1 shadow gloves easier to farm than the exalteds to slam on those
about that
I er... realized I do have something in my multi lp stash tabs after all
now granted that sealed affix is gonna mess a lot with the procs
but all I need is one proc to replace the imprint
i mean unless you're farming for multiexalt shadows still would be easier hah
Idk I haven't seen a single one yet
let alone with an exalt stat
I realize I'm narrowing it down a lot by only including the cdr gloves
but if it has any chance competing with the lirakas
that's gotta be the cdr +1 shadow combo
lirakas just because of the crit multi?
I mean mine are double t7 slammed + almost maxrolled multi
1 shadow is about 40 stacks more
40 stacks is just more increased dmg
well competing stats would just be the multi vs +1 shadow. at least assuming the exalts are the same since the sealed affix is the pseudo legendary
not exactly, because I'm pushing another breakpoint since I also got t7 dex
though if you're just going for more multipliers wouldn't these be more
I'm not using evade on cd to proc that 😭
just saying :P
all other things equal, you are comparing the meaningful unique stats (throwing crit multi, gloves base) to the champ affix and those gloves base is all
what I'm saying is that only applies in the event that you get identical purple stats
