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atomic vapor
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The drop rates are fine when you play non stop with someone because chances are you won't need the resonance for things they need since they'll most likely drop on the same map. But imprints, nemesis drops and echo rewards all need resonance even if they are on the same map

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Ironically btw the imprints that proc from mob kills don't need resonance because they're tagged as regular drops as opposed to caches/echo rewards

flint turret
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Wall or mountain core are decent options. On a more budget side are titan and ox

flint turret
atomic vapor
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I think that's because it was tagged prior. But from my testing, you still need resonance from a drop that the nemesis generated. Maybe that was changed down the line but I found a +erasing strike chestpiece and needed obsidian to send it to my friend while he was standing next to me

flint turret
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I think I also gifted imprints from caches

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Or maybe it was drops from them I'm not sure now

flint turret
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I don't have much experience with resonances so I'm mostly unsure how they work, but droprates should be bit higher imo

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Or maybe even a woven echo with resonance reward or gifting option would be nice

atomic vapor
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Another instance of that happening was when I was helping another friend by imprinting my pig ammy. Drops off the echo reward, needs obsidian. Drops later from mobs in the map, can send it just fine

foggy rapids
flint turret
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Sounds like it's not working that well

flint turret
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None of null/wall/core drop from prophecies or imprints

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Its all boss drops

foggy rapids
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Is that true though ? I have had several Peak of the Mountain drops outside the boss in the Lightless Arbor dungeon. Null and Wall I can understand but if I can get the helmet outside the dungeon maybe that also means the armour is obtainable as well

atomic vapor
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you're confusing core with peak

flint turret
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You can get dungeon drops from the weaver tree in monos

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Including core. But chances for core is pretty low

atomic vapor
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2lp core is absolutely not a budget option compared to the helm. Not impossible but it's not a fun chance to roll 2lp and good rolls

foggy rapids
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Ah ok. Running some Lightless should be fine.

flint turret
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1lp will take some time too, especially if you don't have 150% boss drops buff yet

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Chances are pretty bad for it overall

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And on top of it it has a big stat spread

atomic vapor
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If you've got time to spare and a good YouTube playlist, blast through your portal charms mindlessly, probably the best investment for them outside of mg shenanigans with rune spam

spare folio
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has anyone tried to make a DOT heartseeker build yet?

slate mulch
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@atomic vapor do you know if the weaver dungeon drop mobs can drop soul gambler items?

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or if those are gambler only

flint turret
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Even better if you have someone in cof to bring with you who doesn't need 1lp core

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Easy gifting

wide wasp
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which one is better overall (DPS and survivability) physical HS or Fire Dragonsong HS?

flint turret
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Physical hs don't exist (outside of bleed)

atomic vapor
slate mulch
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dang

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farming soul gamblers fallacy is such a bad experience on cof

flint turret
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True

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Still much better than pre 1.2

atomic vapor
wide wasp
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (67) / Falconer (11)

General:

▸ Health: 4,352, Regen: 14/s
▸ Mana: 200.44, Regen: 8.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 74 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 54% / 54% / 81% / 54% / 50% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,693
▸ Dodge Chance: 30% (1051)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (502)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 18%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

slate mulch
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i guess the only saving grace 1.2 has is the spammable foudry woiven echo

flint turret
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"by Action RPG" susge

atomic vapor
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Special place in hell I swear

flint turret
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100 flat damage total

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That's the main issue, there are no decent bow flat phys damage sources in the game at all

slate mulch
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is actionrpg a bad content creator?

flint turret
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Low entry requirements, low ceiling

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For lots of people it's good enough

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And bringing positive attention to a game is always good, so it's definitely not a bad content

woeful ether
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Falconer (63)

General:

▸ Health: 3,425, Regen: 98.64/s
▸ Mana: 334.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 31 Dex / 5 Int / 98 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 145% / 73% / 73% / 63% / 75% / 65% / 144%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 721
▸ Dodge Chance: 24% (800)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,370)
▸ Block Chance: 54%, Mitigation: 29% (602)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 99%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:
woeful ether
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idk if it's viable to actually spam acid flask to spawn bees but i had a fever dream

atomic vapor
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One good thing I can say about Aaron is that he's not a game hopper. Which might be bad career wise I guess but

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It's good for the game

flint turret
atomic vapor
flint turret
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Not everyone is pushing 1k, his guides are good enough for 99% of the playerbase

atomic vapor
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I know, not actually "hating"

woeful ether
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yeah gotta say 1k corr was suprisingly "hard" in le terms. 500 or so felt comfy to relatively easily get to quickly in a mini push

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the fact that empowered is 100 and the final boss is at 300 makes the end end quite short

atomic vapor
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The problem with those builds is that it's hard to make suggestions for someone without suggesting a big build overhaul

trail pumice
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i am currently doing 500c and i feel like that is the highest I'll go just now

atomic vapor
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Once they've reached the ceiling of what that build can do, it gets tricky

flint turret
woeful ether
slate mulch
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i saw a build creator called SMK think about running bees on acid flask trapper to spawn bees that would disstract mobs

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but thats not really using the bees for damage or anything

atomic vapor
trail pumice
woeful ether
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there's the gloves that have mobs target your minions more than you but idk how that ai works. def some testing to do but i gotta drop the items hah

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let me say midcore then 😅

flint turret
woeful ether
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you're also playing falconer

trail pumice
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i am also doing primalist as well

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both are 100 now 😄

woeful ether
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which is apparently giga op compared to all builds?

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first time playing falconer so 🤷

trail pumice
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same with me foxy

slate mulch
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apparently mobs will automatically focus the bees

trail pumice
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that is why i am in this chat, everyone is so helpful with it

atomic vapor
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For me, how much I play is casual compared to when I was younger

slate mulch
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over you

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without needing any investment

atomic vapor
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And that's gonna sound insane to someone taking a look at my gear this season

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But oh boy if I didn't have a job

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I'd make it my goal to look hero edited

woeful ether
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i wfh but i've caught up on all my projects so i also have really been able to grind

slate mulch
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my job has so much downtime when its slow that i play LE and random games like half the day

trail pumice
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i get that, i used to grind out games like the world was ending in my younger years lmao

atomic vapor
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What I'm saying isn't even falconer related right

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I could be playing the most degenerate obscure conversion channeling build or whatever

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I'd still try to minmax it

trail pumice
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but tbh that makes it fun right? 😄

woeful ether
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i mean anything past 1 lp slams is already more than necessary right?

atomic vapor
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I don't play for what's necessary

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I like loot

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I'm an old d2 player I love turning off my brain and blasting

woeful ether
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no in regards to the average/casual standard

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your gear is already giga lol

trail pumice
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i like loot too @atomic vapor i collect everything purple and higher, my stash is a mess and i can't be bothered fixing it now

woeful ether
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how much are your stash tabs now

trail pumice
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well lets just say i put everything everywhere but i think 600k plus for astash tab lmao

woeful ether
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jeez o

atomic vapor
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Nah my stash is ocd minmaxed

woeful ether
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i'm at like 300k or so? and i have a really strict filter. but i do like to collect a few things

atomic vapor
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Otherwise I wouldn't be able to sleep at night

trail pumice
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its weird because i know where everything is

woeful ether
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if i only picked up items potentially worthwhile i'd have like 5 tabs only

atomic vapor
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I can't pick only good stuff this season

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Not when I can pay a visit to the turtle

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And gamba gamba gamba

slate mulch
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is immortal vise good for ward builds too?

trail pumice
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everything with purple and looks nice needs to come

woeful ether
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why don't you just set up tab affinities

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takes a minute but looks way cleaner

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unless you just really rely on the stash search lol

flint turret
trail pumice
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i have some for lp3 and lp2 items

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and idols

atomic vapor
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I don't need to search, unless it's my aberroth loot tabs for the egg

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Everything else is burned to the back of my skull

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The stuff I wanna search in the stash isn't searchable

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Like dropping a null portent in the egg with 20% health

trail pumice
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yeah thats like me too, i just know where stuff is and where to find it

atomic vapor
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Random but something I learned from the 10h 1-uber speedrun that I didn't know

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Was gambling kris daggers in the eot early

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That's such a giga strat early season

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I feel bad for not having thought of it beforehand

undone dune
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is this just gambling for the base type once you hit monos for higher crit chance?

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i never bothered with that before but I did always gamble for highest tier staff every time I hit monos on a caster to get more flat spell damage

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its good to check that stuff

vernal zealot
cobalt mantle
atomic vapor
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Yeah base chance doesn't matter when leveling when you can blast the story with shadow daggers naked

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and kris daggers are such a reliable multi source

undone dune
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ahh so same idea different stat

ornate nexus
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Does anyone have a planner for heartseeker marksman I could look at just to see where I should be going next with mine? I'm not a big fan of some of the choices maxroll makes.

vernal zealot
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I think that vid is comfy proccing a 4lp red ring but cant confirm

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Wish I could translate his title atleast

atomic vapor
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next up, 4lp ravs

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what was it one in 8 trillion

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easy

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@vernal zealot is it finally time for me to farm a majasa shield

vernal zealot
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And play a worse build LMAO

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I wish iudgement wasnt snail speed

atomic vapor
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lmao 10000% agree

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it's not even about how good or bad it is

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it's just so. slow

minor locust
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I don't play some build cause i don't like gameplay

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Judgement is one of them

atomic vapor
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I just can't stand a character who goes at snail pace

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not the genre of games for that

minor locust
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I tried the dot version as well but it was superboring

minor locust
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Use skill x and y to buff skill z

atomic vapor
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I hate hate hate generator/spenders

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go into a pack

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spam a 10 skill combo

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things die on the 10th hit

minor locust
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Y lol

atomic vapor
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no thanks

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even if the overall boss dps is bigger

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taking 2 business days per pack puts me off immensely

minor locust
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Yeah gameplay has to be fluid

atomic vapor
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if i want slow methodical gameplay

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nioh 3 is coming out soon

vernal zealot
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And honestly, for all people talk of how tanky paladin is... killing UA in 30 secs is still gonna be easier than most paladin kills

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Build maybe giga tank but necrotic waves that reduce res will still get you nuked, where falcon just says "dodge" lol

atomic vapor
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not wasting my 4lp yet but upgrade I guess

inner stone
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how does ucenui's sphere work with umbral falconer? since my falcon/minions do all the "hits" ?

undone dune
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falcon throws umbral blades for you

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so the umbrals themselves use your stats

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sphere still isn't all that great though

elder goblet
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I believe that ucenui's sphere is just for the extra cold dmg stat, everything else is just in the way

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aside of the cold and lightning resistances ofc

slate mulch
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yea no uber aberrroth definitely uses hte vacuum right after timeshattering slam in the final phase

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its pretty consistent too

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probably the hardest leech check because you cant hit him for a solid 3-5 seconds during that entire sequence

slate mulch
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ok finally beat uberroth with flask marksman

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level 97 and 1-2 LP gear lol

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very solid build

sage canyon
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poggg gz

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tbh the main thing in that fight i uptime on staying in smoke bom as much as u can

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i still think hail is best mm build hads down, flask is second and then hs

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if multishot wasnt bugged maybe its also better than hs

slate mulch
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i leveled with hail until i had starter 1lp gear for flask and it felt really slow

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but its probably because it requires more gear to get working than flask

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and the dark quiver pickup minigame slows it down more

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but it definitely seems like it'd push the hardest with the crazy amount of defenses it can afford

sage canyon
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hail scales infinetly with gear, i kill dummy in 28 sec on endgame setup, just adding uber relic and 2 t7 bow would give 60% more dmg to that

slate mulch
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do u shoot hail with quiver on regular mobs? or just regular hail

sage canyon
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no, you roll for the crystal stack then sjoot

slate mulch
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i see

sage canyon
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mh dark quiver is always on numlock tho csuse im lazy, but it matters only on bosses

slate mulch
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i think ill try pushing hoa MM next then

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ive been saving some gear for it

sage canyon
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u can also try to gear ward flask

slate mulch
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i was thinking of it

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but farming soul gamblers is extremely torturous on cof

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i guess farming multi LP core will also be torturous

sage canyon
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no, just use woven passive

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i got multiple 2lp did 0 dungeons this season

slate mulch
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yeah for the core it works, i have a few 1 LPs from it so its definitely less annoying

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i realized when i was leveling i didnt have crystalwind, which might explain why it felt slower

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i had to pick up dark arrow for every mob

sage canyon
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crystal is literally double dmg almost

slate mulch
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then switched immediately to flask when i had the bare minimim 1 lps

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dang, yeah ill retool for it

sage canyon
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its 60% more

slate mulch
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its kind of sad how weak chakrams is, it took me almost 7 min to beat the fight with offline build 3-4 LPs

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flask at lvl 97 did it in 4:30

sage canyon
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ye if u get top rolled its sub 2min

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so u still missing a lot

slate mulch
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yeah i legit only have 1 LPs, 0 2 T7s, only have a bow with T7/T6

sage canyon
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and on uber gear its 1 min

slate mulch
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actual potato gear

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i actually feel like it was decently stronger than when i 1st beat the fight with erasing strike 1-2 LP gear

sage canyon
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it is. iirc endgame es is 3-4 min kill

slate mulch
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yeah, i see some gflass cannon setups getting 1-2 min but those arent particularly good gauges of the builds general performance

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (15) / Marksman (53) / Falconer (18)

General:

▸ Health: 3,162, Regen: 22.52/s
▸ Mana: 120.98, Regen: 11.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 18 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 322% / 90% / 127% / 82% / 89% / 60% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 52%, Threshold: 1,106
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (570)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,127)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%

slate mulch
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probably i had gear farmable in like 5-10 hrs of endgame farm

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everything unoptimized

sage canyon
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funny eough i have more fire res on lvling full yellow items planner

slate mulch
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yeah im ultra scuffed, his regular flail hits could 1 shot me

sage canyon
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ye mine is 651 on yellw gear+ whatever u get from cinder

slate mulch
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thats what happens when you know how to make builds, i legit just monkey pilot interesting builds i see ppl make

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i basically just wait for build updates from your channel and try them out since i pushed other builds far enough this season

sage canyon
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Well im finishing my bd kill

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Then i need to kill on surge sb

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I dont think ill be killing it on explosive ballistas, looks like 9 min fight and im lazy

slate mulch
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surge sb?

sage canyon
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Ill make zombies video tho a cool mono build with 2 screen aoe nuke, for uber is abit tough tho

sage canyon
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It hits for 50 mil every 3 sec on dummy

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On budget

slate mulch
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crazy

sage canyon
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prety low dps

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its 16 mmil

slate mulch
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its good that all your builds work on budget as well, its really eaasy to get on my MG char and just gear out every one of your new builds

sage canyon
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thank you, thats the idea

slate mulch
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yeah, the builds have extended my playtime this season significantly as i like to try out many builds and clear pinnacle content vs taking one to its absolute max

sage canyon
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you should try my first build with bear tornado druid, it was first druid that killed uber in season too

slate mulch
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I did look into that build

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My worry was it would cook my PC lol

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I already have some really bad frame rate drops

sage canyon
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yeeee

slate mulch
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Like in my uber aberroth fights I basically have to predict like half a second ahead what he’ll do sometimes

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My PC is not a potato either I can run most modern intensive games easily but LE for some reason is just really bad for me

vast lily
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is there a better planner to use for umbral blades falcon than the maxroll lizard one?

undone dune
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so its pretty optimized

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if you scroll down a bit you can see some other people discussing it

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I think someone else probably has a good aspirational planner floating around i've lost it and I think they were cooking up using mana affixes after 180 dex or something for more divebomb cdr

vast lily
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Ah tyty, looking now.

minor locust
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Finally a bow skill which has a good gameplay

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Ty ehg for heartseeker

vernal zealot
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I got an optimised umbral blades bow variant too

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My boots are a little scuffed tried re rolling them lol

vast lily
atomic vapor
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Giga kill. That's basically what, more or less my kill speed but with a few worse pieces? Awesome. Looks like those gloves really pay off

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I haven't had any luck getting those gloves yet but I've been focusing on the helm (got a very decent one yesterday)

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I need to get a throwing shattered worlds too, and start working on the jungle belt

vernal zealot
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Havent checked in a while but the max roll guide is probably giga outdated

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If you want to stay with umbral blades specialised really priotise getting 2 oranates with 8%umbral blades dmg per shroud @vast lily

vast lily
vernal zealot
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I never used throne at all tbh, the sphere and ornate were enough to get me my first few kills

vast lily
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hmm so not throne, but had the cold dmg on umbral blades skill?

vernal zealot
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Yeah, it probably would if been a good dps increase to keep throne in if possible though

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Mostly wanna get your dex up

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Disclaimer too, george and people here have alot more defensive focus cause they actively play monos on falconer, mine is exlusively uber killer

vast lily
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are my defenses okay? like I should be focusing on dmg?

supple flicker
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I haven't played the game when the new patch dropped

vernal zealot
supple flicker
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Ill give ubber a try with the unchanged build i have

vast lily
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oh wait, is the maxroll guide for it that cooked with new patch?

supple flicker
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before patch i clear ubber with just 45 seconds

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ill check here

vast lily
vernal zealot
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With current gear we still get hard limited by invuln phases anyway

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(64% by first time shatter, 34% by 2nd harby)

supple flicker
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The whole umbral blade build came from him

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But here is the build with the current equipment i have

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before patch

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that is

vernal zealot
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Im gonna probably drop to 200dex and get some more qol on gear (mana on gloves, helmet)

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Should be about 20% cdr on AA for 20 dex which seems like goodge trade

vast lily
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im gonna time my target dummy kill tim,e idk how else to measure it..... but I think it's not good

vernal zealot
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Target dummy isnt a great measure for UB

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I get more dusks on aberoth than dummy

supple flicker
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The key to ubber for fast clearing is positioning

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or clearing him in general

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I suffered a lot in exchange i memorized all his sht

vast lily
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1min 40s I think for dummy kill

supple flicker
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can do it with my eyes closed

vernal zealot
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I still sometimes smoke bomb into the abyss but yeah im pretty comfy with it now

vernal zealot
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Slow

supple flicker
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This is my bread and butter just for no reason

vernal zealot
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Oh thats insane value actuslly

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Are you holding AA, dive bomb and smoke bomb down?

supple flicker
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I dont understand how people use auto hotkey for falconer

vernal zealot
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Oh i can see a massive issue already, skill priority works left to right hyperion

supple flicker
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I just press smoke, get him marked, synchro and aa / dive bomb

vast lily
vernal zealot
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You need AA in slot 1

vast lily
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yeah AA is leftmost slot

supple flicker
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Set up is like this

vernal zealot
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Aa>dive bomb> smoke bomb>falc(dont press) and in my case decoy

vast lily
supple flicker
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smoke > synchro > F (mark) > AA > Dive Bomb

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If you press F your falcon attacks

vernal zealot
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Its only 1 hit though so i didnt value it over specialised decoy

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Which is 80 crit multi on decoy exploding

supple flicker
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mark lasts for a long time even with continous

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well for me

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:))

vernal zealot
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Im bow not traitors though

supple flicker
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Oh yeah the fastest clearing one with umbral is the one with mines

vast lily
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so is my order wrong then?

supple flicker
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right click for dive bomb is crazy work dont you think

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i use smoke on my right click for movement

vast lily
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I wasd movement

vernal zealot
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No you look okay, but your bow right?

vast lily
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i am bow yes

vernal zealot
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If your bow i imagine you dont get much value out of sync strike right?

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I dint remember what it gives

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But if you want some priotity for gearing>ornate idols with ub per shroud, dex on red rings, better cdr on slots that isnt t7 roll

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The idols end up being atleast like 1600% increased dmg when ramped

vast lily
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mmk tyty. do I need to swap to traps for better boss dmg?

vernal zealot
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Nope my linked planner is my uber set up

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You would seap decoy for dark quiver for monos

atomic vapor
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Yeah keep in mind my kill doesn't have +1 shadows and I didn't have flat throw on helm either, and I don't have a good jungle belt

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So my 38 can go all the way down to meru's 30 with a little rng and a few gear slots

vernal zealot
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What hp do you get by the first harby? I cant push past 64% @atomic vapor

atomic vapor
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Me neither, but I think the first phase is very hard to push compared to others because he becomes completely invulnerable on 64 compared to any other phase

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You need giga burst like timerot

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I doubt you can push even with 4lps everywhere

vernal zealot
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Yeah ive been thinking that, after that its just heavy DR on all other phase transitions

minor locust
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hey rogues will this

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interfere with

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on a cold marksman heartseeker build?

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cause - cold res stacking dex will make it hard to overcap cold res

flint turret
minor locust
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I do realize flat dmg is flat dmg

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But what if i free idols space not needing to cover those cold and phys res penality from the boots and i feel them with those + 6 bow flat dmg weaver idols instead?

atomic vapor
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Nothing comes close to the flat cold you get from those boots, that's why it has such a giga drawback

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It's too steep still imo, since way more busted items exist with no drawback

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But it is what it is

flint turret
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And flat throw too, in case you are using umbrals like me

minor locust
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i see

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wasn't thinking at icicles

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i guess they are bis even for fire build right?

atomic vapor
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Doesn't fire still scale cold from ucenui

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I don't remember off the top of my head but dragonsong setups don't have a lot of increased dmg outside of relic but I could be wrong I haven't looked at the build in so long

vast lily
vernal zealot
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It should be night and day

vast lily
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holding down, dive, AA and smoke bomb

vernal zealot
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Weird, it might just be a breakpoint thing because thats like less than 5m dps

vast lily
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as in i need more dex? or?

vernal zealot
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Yeah ideally 180-200 but that shouldnt stop seeing a huge bump just from idols

flint turret
atomic vapor
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I completely forgot about sharpshooter

vast lily
vernal zealot
vast lily
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idk if I have a half decent alternative. but can look

vernal zealot
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Is there a rogue relic with crit multi? Right now youll only get the res+whatever you slammed on sphere

vast lily
#

yeh its a half decent sphere

vast lily
#

does bow attack speed give anything benefical at all?

vernal zealot
#

We get so much increased% from shrouds

atomic vapor
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There's nothing else to get on prefixes, other than dex ofc. With shattered worlds you're pretty much locked to dex and increased phys%

winter burrow
#

So, umbrella blades, is it better with x2 daggers or the bow ?

atomic vapor
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It's too tight to matter

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We're talking literal couple seconds of a difference

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Use whatever you like

vast lily
#

did they patch or nerf the traps umbral blades build?

atomic vapor
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Yes it's "dead"

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And that wasn't a build that scaled umbrals anyway

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It scaled dive bomb

winter burrow
sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (9) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,895, Regen: 36.64/s
▸ Mana: 239.85, Regen: 11.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 142 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 115% / 135% / 101% / 140% / 64% / 59% / 64%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 379
▸ Dodge Chance: 38% (1202)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,453)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

atomic vapor
#

Your dexterity is currently a little too low to play dive bomb. Dive bomb damage scales with the amount of umbral blades on the ground. With your current build it looks like you're trying to do two things at the same time which obviously doesn't work. You're specced into bladestorm while scaling dive bomb from midnight aviary, which means your dive bombs do very little damage compared to what the build can do. If you want to commit to playing dive bomb, you need unspecced bladestorms. But you will do more damage with umbrals at your current gear, because you get a gigaton of increased damage from the idols (which you should get asap)

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If you do wanna play umbrals, unspec midnight aviary and get flock of crows. Turn off the cold tag from umbrals and keep the bladestorm specced, and since you're scaling more damage per movement speed from the rogue passive, get the movement speed buff from falconry

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Also, if you do swap to scaling umbrals, the bottom left passives on falconer provide very little benefit, so you should reallocate those elsewhere

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If you are confident in your ability to not get hit in boss fights, concentration is a great more multiplier, otherwise you can also get Once from the bladedancer tree

vernal zealot
atomic vapor
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Yeah I only was referring to quiver there

vernal zealot
#

Mana should be rollable on quivers pog

atomic vapor
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Flat damage should

vernal zealot
#

Frrrrr

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Time to log in and hopefully unbrick my boots LMAO

atomic remnant
#

Hi everyone. I'm new to the game. Rocking a judgement paladin right now in act 6.

But i know i'll definitely be rocking an ice heatseeker build afterwards.

Would some kind soul make me a list of gear to be on the lookout for so i can add it to my paladin loot filter ?

atomic vapor
#

Ucenui, toraka's teeth, mourningfrost, and ravenous void

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I assume you already have red rings and nihilis

vernal zealot
#

Act 6 is a bold place to assume they have red rings hahaha

atomic vapor
#

I just read that part, scratch that

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Add those too 😭

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Just know most of them will drop way way later

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You can still get the quiver in story though

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And probably the relic too

vernal zealot
#

Bro just farmed act 5 boss till they dropped easy

atomic vapor
#

I got dragonsong from my first ever ascendance

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The only time I didn't level with shadow daggers

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I just spammed yoga flame all story

vernal zealot
#

I 1st timed my razorfalls when i started on falc

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Didnt realise how lucky i got lol

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Also is champion imprint node actually bait

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I cant recall any time getting a proc off it

atomic vapor
#

I hate it in unspecced it

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I *

vernal zealot
#

Yeah it seems giga deadge actually, legit had more procs from sepulchre

atomic vapor
#

I still put some sepulchers if I loot them

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I don't buy them tho

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Mainly because of the idol rerolls tbh

vernal zealot
#

Ive lost a few troves cause of folley mobs

atomic vapor
#

Giga brew belt is stonks

vernal zealot
#

Since then i just stopped using folley and replaced middle with sepulchre

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Yeah i should probably have some alternate not zhp gear

atomic vapor
#

Pig ammys and brew belt are my favorite season 2 additions. The game lacked good all around uniques with many useful but not giga cracked stats

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It felt like the best of that kind were the lightless uniques and that's it

vernal zealot
#

And honestly the lightless just have some weird things that make them awkwars to build around

atomic vapor
#

No problem

vernal zealot
#

wtb more forging potential

atomic remnant
atomic remnant
#

Does this mean i'm still gonna see all the necessary stuff for ice hearthseeker even with the loot filter ?

prisma marlin
vernal zealot
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mannngggg

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30 troves no imprint

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what da

atomic vapor
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Same here, I thought I was going crazy

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tinfoil hat moment, stealth nerf?

vernal zealot
#

Server buff when i log out i guess omegalul

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Its so hard to keep going after spending all your amber and getting 0 useable bases lol

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I did drop an almost perfect peak today though so bright side, when i get my slam itll be good lol

devout heron
#

I’m in the same boat. What’s the next best farming strat to get more amber when you’re all out.

vernal zealot
#

Cemetery of reweaving/lostwood folley in black sun specifically

undone dune
#

what does black sun add?

vernal zealot
#

Cemetary of reweaving has diff layouts depending on timeline

undone dune
#

ohh

vernal zealot
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And i found black sun to be the most preferable

undone dune
#

i had no idea

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i figured it was just kind of random

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but with only a few options

vernal zealot
#

Purely timeline based

undone dune
#

makes sense

vernal zealot
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Its the forge layout in black sun, ive tried other spots and found they all have back tracking apart from that one

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@atomic vapor do you find t776 helmets to proc more than t77?

atomic vapor
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nope, I haven't procced a single t7 t7 t6 yet

vernal zealot
#

I swapped my exalt base to t77 suffix from t767 to try and be more reliable on havocing, and didnt get any procs after lol

atomic vapor
#

also random but W

vernal zealot
#

Yugeeeee

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Do you do reweavings in black sun too? @atomic vapor

atomic vapor
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generally yes but I haven't in a long time

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party perks = trove rotation

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not that' I'm getting anythign right now

vernal zealot
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Yeah i really should just trove rota...

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Can you sustain amber if you do full party folley troves?

atomic vapor
#

yeeah

vernal zealot
#

Oh jesus

atomic vapor
vernal zealot
#

what

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HUH

hallow apex
#

only 770k aber? easy

vernal zealot
#

Thats like 100hours of farming cemetary LMAO

atomic vapor
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I was on cap

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had to buy

hallow apex
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well he could have gotten em early in one of the bugs that was available early on

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could have xD

vernal zealot
#

I wish i abused infinite troves more

atomic vapor
#

I don't need bugs

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I got 2 buds that blast

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3 accounts = W

vernal zealot
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Thats crazy but makes sense

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No overhead costs basically

atomic vapor
#

btw you did realize that was me in the ingame chat right? ;D

vernal zealot
#

Yeah i guessed you were somebody talking haha

atomic vapor
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was the guy that said you have 3 geared chars, tried to give myself away

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figured you'd catch on

vernal zealot
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Haha nope, it was when you said something about troves with the homies though

undone dune
#

so i just noticed you guys are talking about stealth nerfs to troves which is funny because just yesterday EHG said "imprint is working as expected but it has more possible outcomes than you probably think" which screams stealth nerf to me

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they probably added more possibilites to imprints

atomic vapor
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ohhh right I said that too

undone dune
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like chaning more types of stuff that cause items to not show up on filters now

atomic vapor
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like 5-6

vernal zealot
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They probably mean how imprinting has like 50 variations

undone dune
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i feel like they added more

atomic vapor
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I don't know

vernal zealot
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And we only think of 7 or 8

atomic vapor
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all I know is I've been getting less loot today

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aka less double t7s

undone dune
#

like how adding more chances other than specific unique totally didn't reduce the rate of red ring imprints (it reduced it by like 95% in testing)

vernal zealot
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They havent had any patch or hotfix recently right

atomic vapor
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thing is there was no ingame update like that time

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ofc that's not necessary

vernal zealot
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Yeah it can be server side too but

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Surely not 2 months into the league lmao

atomic vapor
#

I'll keep blasting and keep observing

undone dune
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they reowrked falconer 5 weeks into league

vernal zealot
#

That was a knee jerk fix imo

atomic vapor
#

I'm gonna keep a goodwill here and say bad luck today

vernal zealot
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That streamer reported it and days later it got fixed

undone dune
#

its funny though becuase i was looking around in other channels, and other classes use way worse bugs directly and understanding exactly what is being abused

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but those wont get fixed because its not meta

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like theres a bug with runemaster where they just get 300% more damage on all invocatiosn always

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if they never hardcast invoke

atomic vapor
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balancing is different than loot

vernal zealot
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Lmao yeah im pretty sure theres something completely bugged and applying multiple times on time rot too

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Like some part of the calculation is double dipping

keen snow
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pretty sure there's a spreadsheet to work out your time rot DPS and what affixes are best for you etc going around and time rot damage is lining up with the theory more or less exactly as it should

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rot grip is just a hell of a node and some sentinel skills have some big multipliers for ailment application

atomic vapor
#

@vernal zealot game is telling me I can now farm for a talon setup as well lmaoo

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I wonder how long it would take imprint to generate the slow quiver

vernal zealot
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The only useful prefix lmao

atomic vapor
#

nemesis initial step t7 dex too, was like

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ok let's see if it goes double

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and it did lol

vernal zealot
#

I imagine pretty decent right because that base cant be dropped normally?

atomic vapor
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yes but i don't care about the flat crit since you crit cap anyway with shattered worlds

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but the more modifier on slow is so juicy

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it makes up for the lack of a second good prefix lol

vernal zealot
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Yeah so itll have to drop a random base every time your imprint procs i imagine @atomic vapor

atomic vapor
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yes I really do believe that's the best possible imprint other than the base itself lol

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because if it can't generate THAT base, all bases should have an equal chance

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mike said in yesterday's stream

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the first thing the imprint system does is try to roll the exact same item as slotted

atomic vapor
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I've tried like 20 times? the shield stops exactly there every single time

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also new personal best I guess

slate mulch
#

Could someone link me to a resource that explains how to maximize ward in a build?

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Retention vs decay vs per sec etc

undone dune
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this isn't really a guide but you can play with the sliders to see what happens

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might help give context to some other writen guide that you arn't understanding

sage canyon
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Otherwise it works fine

woeful ether
#

I have screenshots of all the layouts bc I was wondering what it was like

vernal zealot
vernal zealot
alpine tapir
#

anyone have a good MM build ? heartseeker or Hail of Storm for lv 70-

minor locust
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I'm enjoying heartseeker gameplay

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I went cold cause my autism can't tolerate mixed flat dmg scaling from boots

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But probably dragonsong is a better bow all around

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For builds you can check LE tools

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Go to marksman and you find plenty hs builds

thin quartz
#

just hit this triple exalt 7 7 6
big upgrade from my old belt.

thin quartz
sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (65) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 4,063, Regen: 36.8/s
▸ Mana: 186.69, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 145 Dex / 12 Int / 24 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 114% / 118% / 151% / 109% / 78% / 95% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 1,446
▸ Dodge Chance: 49% (1831)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,510)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

thin quartz
# sharp raven

the website stats seems to be so weird. like not accurate

vast lily
#

@vernal zealot I got 2 red rings with dex now, however my void res is back down to 75%. for blessings the guide was steering me towards dodge rating + crit strike avoidance. should I swap to all res instead?

woeful ether
vernal zealot
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Dodge is good tho too

vernal zealot
vernal zealot
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I legit have better gear than him omegalul

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Nvm he focused way more on throw dmg over dex

fossil goblet
#

how do you farm +1 maximum shadow gloves

vernal zealot
fossil goblet
atomic vapor
#

How's everyone

vernal zealot
#

@atomic vapor wake up new comfy tech dropped

vernal zealot
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If you use shift to recall umbral blades it makes all featherfall hit LMAO

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Jumping on to testge

atomic vapor
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Oh yeah I was thinking about that a while ago but I was unsure of whether all of the recalled blades would go through the target. It probably sucks immensely for mapping

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But yeah that's clearly the extra damage needed to push that first phase at which point it just instant pops

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Also

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The passive tree is like giga unoptimized for damage, comfy probably didn't even bother to change anything since it kills anyway

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More from slow and concentration were enough

vernal zealot
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I just 50%-0% target dummy, its weird because of smoke bomb and shift being transversal

atomic vapor
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give it a shot on maps I'm curious

vernal zealot
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Guga terrible hahahah

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I had to do a mono for relevelling skills (no xp nodes handy)

atomic vapor
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yeah it's a nice proof of concept thing just like the detonating arrow explosive trap meme but

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Speccing into it just to save half a minute on Uber

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how long did it take you to get the gloves

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should I even bother

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I feel like it's too much effort for overkill

vernal zealot
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It seems i cant insta refresh AA too

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I just had the champion affix and gloves on filter and wasnt planning to go too hard for them

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Dropped, hit a redemption and now gucci

atomic vapor
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yeah swag

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might just use up my maps

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next cemetary

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I just don't care enough I'll be real lol

vernal zealot
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Yeah 100% i feel that bro i was watching one piece and seen it hit my feed lol

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GIGA jank i think you have to be on m+k cause my daggers go nowhere near

atomic vapor
#

oh well expected

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I'm probably being a little too greedy as is

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I'd like a sub 30second kill

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if it happens it happens

vernal zealot
#

Managed to get a 650m proc on dummy

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But its a positioning thing, if your too close daggers seem to pierce?

atomic vapor
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it's the same thing with dusk shroud stacks

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you don't get as many on dummy due to size

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uber is massive

vernal zealot
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Will try again with legacy aiming on sometines that fixes things that proc from triggers

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100-83% in one "hit'

atomic vapor
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yeah it's pretty clear what it does

vernal zealot
#

Back to one piece aftwe that little break LMAO

atomic vapor
#

lmao 😭

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almost like you were woken up mid sleep all like?

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what oh busted interaction

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ok back to sleep

vernal zealot
#

Unironically its not even that busted

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Same as doing it on time rot or swamblade with less mapping potential lol

atomic vapor
#

I will miss all this complete lack of balance in season 3

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no matter what itemization comes

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the overall power level will be lower purely because of the incoming nerfs

vernal zealot
#

Yeah i was taljing about this about minions like

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When snapshotting is removed unless they give stuff 10x multipliers its gonna be a nerf lol

atomic vapor
#

I fully expect all minions to be completely cooked post snapshot fix

vernal zealot
#

-1 archetype to balance atleast haha

atomic vapor
#

@vernal zealot

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I'll do the testing for you later

vernal zealot
#

Holyyyy nice

atomic vapor
#

I had a spare pair of maxed purples

vernal zealot
#

And a dream

atomic vapor
#

went for the yolo slam was like what the hell

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yeah lmao

vernal zealot
#

That should legit melt big man now

atomic vapor
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I'm playing with my buds rn, I wanna see if this is enough to push phase 1

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if it isn't, then the +1 shadow is b u s t e d

vernal zealot
#

I think its all about 1 big dmg hit

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Where falcon does 1million dmg 50times a sec lol

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Everything i seen thats skipping phases seems to only have 1 big dmg instance

atomic vapor
#

yeah that's exactly the problem

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and I'm not willing to spec into a disfunctional build

vernal zealot
#

Yeah do not do the comfy i cant stress how bad it is hahaha

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Legit 1 umbral dagger that cant pierce hahaha

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It would be hard to find something that would be less clunk, idk if the +1 shadow is even that good compared to 130 crit multi

atomic vapor
#

I don't even know honestly

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when I'm alone I'll try an uber kill

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like generally speaking it would be hard to gauge because of rolls, but I literally have maxroller lirakas so it shouldn't be that hard

austere atlas
inner stone
#

Doing lizards umbral Falconer build here: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/umbral-blades-falconer-guide

But I know there are a lot of people saying +1 shadow gloves are an improvement over blood roost and maybe daggers might be better? I don't disagree at all as I haven't tested but with the goal of killing uberroth, does anyone have a build guide to a stronger build? I'm level 85 or so and about to start slamming some exalts to push corruption higher (200 currently)

stoic shadow
#

How do i get +1 shadow gloves? Like best place to farm

inner stone
vernal zealot
#

The shadow mod itself doesnt need to be exalted, its still +1

round depot
#

Anyone using steamdeck ?

thin quartz
#

@charred current someone's account got hacked

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upgrades upgrade upgrade

vast lily
#

@vernal zealot what are the other good rolls on the 8% umbral ornate idols? besides armor shred

vernal zealot
#

Think*

vast lily
# vernal zealot Think*

yeah. what about the weaver enchant? i got some bow crit chance but i think thats p useless

vernal zealot
atomic vapor
#

I like cdr personally but I cannot hit more than t6 for the life of me

vernal zealot
#

Im 50/50 on cdr v crit multi cause its only 6% with 2 max rolls right? Vs 26 crit multi

round depot
#

Im trying this puncture One Shot later 😂

prisma marlin
thin quartz
inner stone
vernal zealot
inner stone
vernal zealot
#

Blood roost with dex and throw dmg will always be goodge, i havent tested anything other than them and very well rolled +shadow gloves

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Fwiw i havent ever tested champion farming in "rune prism complex" by taking the accompanied by champion node, champ affix stuff might still drop if you leave and rejoin

inner stone
vernal zealot
inner stone
#

Nice

lyric narwhal
#

hi

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why can't i find any red ring of atlaria with LP in bazzar?

thin quartz
#

because MG sucks.

meager swift
#

Isnt the ariel asault umbral blade targeting bug fixed? my blades still seem to just pop off in random spots and not where im wanting them to

mellow gyro
#

Quick question. Only give me a yes or no please. Can I get far, and by that I mean around 300 corruption, with multishot/flurry in hardcore without having ultra minmaxed gear?

dim forge
#

just hit empowered monos with the rogue leveling building on maxroll, really struggling with damage in empowered mono's right now. I am planning on switching to the umbral blades build on maxroll but the guide stresses about have a talons of valor with bow speed and crit on it. I havent gotten lucky with the nemesis to land those on a talon yet. Should i make the switch regardless to the engame umbral blade build?

meager swift
dim forge
#

What's killing me now is the struggle using the leveling build in empowered monos it feel off hard after normal monos at least with the gear I have on it

keen trench
#

Has anyone tried mana-stacking markman build? I see many passive nodes that give %more damage per mana, wondering how viable would it be?

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I'm slowing building a stockpile of chests and helmets for such a build, but just wanna see if anyone has played similar things before.

inner stone
#

question from me now - how do the scaling tags work with falconry?
scaling tags: minion, companion, dex
minion tags: physical, melee, throwing attack

does one part of the skill scale form different tags? am i looking for (for example) minion throwing attack? just curiuos about something like this specifically.

also - the umbral blades falconer build looks like its main focus is to scale the umbral blades that are thrown during dive bomb, so scaling minion damage is...pointless?

woeful ether
#

it throws during aa but uses your stats so yes minion damage not good

inner stone
woeful ether
#

the damage from aa and dive bomb themselves would be scaled with minion dmg but they don't deal that much if you are umbral

woeful ether
vast lily
#

idk what im doing wrong. I feel like i have plenty of gear, deecent dmg decent defeences. but cannot for the life of me beat uber aberoth. Get to last phase and just cannot surive, usually too much puprle puddles + beams everywhere.

thin quartz
vast lily
#

I'll try time myself when i get to certain phases. I can kill bosss dummy in 45 secs.

vernal zealot
#

Missing flat throw dmg on nihils which is probably 20-30% dmg

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Dex on quiver needed, +2 throw skills on razofall would be better, t7 cdr on belt, no mana gained on hit with db

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Do you not run out of mana like all the time without them nodes?

lyric narwhal
#

Is there any build that can push corrupted up to 10k?

vernal zealot
#

Yeah the normal umbral blades falconer stuff @lyric narwhal

pine hatch
#

Now I need to slam this 🤣

thin quartz
#

another upgrade today

atomic vapor
#

ooo giga

thin quartz
#

last and final project. my helmet. after that i think im done min maxing this heartseeker.

vast lily
vast lily
#

Defs could do with a better nihils with throwing. And dex on quiv

lyric narwhal
#

My exalted equipment has 2 affixes, can it be combined with legends?

tough tiger
atomic vapor
#

You don't need terrorwings either on AA

#

remove it and add that to cdr as well

lyric narwhal
#

Guys which build is better to push corrupted as high as possible

sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 2,403, Regen: 30.42/s
▸ Mana: 162.99, Regen: 11.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 210 Dex / 20 Int / 20 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 77% / 77% / 68% / 77% / 63% / 68%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 841
▸ Dodge Chance: 54% (2118)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,460)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 76%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 85%

lyric narwhal
#

and

sharp ravenBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 1,445, Regen: 42.2/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 201 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 36% / 36% / 36% / 36% / 73% / 55% / 60%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 289
▸ Dodge Chance: 74% (4574)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (675)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 43%

lyric narwhal
#

and

sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 2,279, Regen: 27/s
▸ Mana: 158.61, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 52%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 225 Dex / 26 Int / 26 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 82% / 82% / 82% / 82% / 108% / 113%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 456
▸ Dodge Chance: 69% (3656)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 53% (3,467)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 35%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 62%

lyric narwhal
#

Which of these 3 builds is the best?

vast lily
brittle spindle
#

@pine hatch Juiced

tough tiger
vast lily
#

im def seeing a large increase with just the 2 CDR talent changes

tough tiger
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Yup i learned the hard way - you DONT want the original dive bomb to hit

atomic vapor
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keep in mind the implicit on quiver is multiplicative

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I think it's far better than any affix you can have

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quiver only gets dex

atomic vapor
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the second prefix can only be increased dmg which umbrals has a gigantic deposit

vast lily
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just found a decent LP3 belt and bow.... but now finding a decent donor....

tough tiger
# vast lily huh?

So that node i told you to spec out of - reduces the delay of dive bomb. So that means your dive bomb will land quickly

A mechanic of dive bomb is if you cast another falcon skill (aerial assault or strikes), and it cancels the falcons dive bomb it refunds 70% of cdr (and mana cost)

By making sure the original dive bomb doesnt hit, you reduce the cd, can spam more casts of the dive bomb which spawn more shadows to hit

brittle spindle
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Is there a way to reduce Heartseeker mana cost to 0 so it could benefit from the 0 mana cost passives?

tough tiger
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Also try swapping your crit multi blessing to crit chance

Quiver to ANY quiver with dex/crit chance/armor shred/void res

I think those are the simplest things for maximum dps increases now that the skill tree nodes were changed.

T7 nihilis throw dmg would be huge too, sucks cause the one you have is so well rolled!

vast lily
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hmm should i be swapping into those cold nodes in umbral blades?

tough tiger
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Yeah do that too, but it shouldnt be a huge dps increase tbh

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Now that i think about it, it could actually be a dps decrease even..not too significant tho either way

vast lily
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noice finallly killed him tyvm for help to you and grief(ill save him the ping)

woeful ether
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its always a skill issue never a build issue

tough tiger
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Hell yeah nice

vast lily
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wish i could see the amount of attempts

tough tiger
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How much more dmg were you doing?

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You can see your deaths and try to estimate it lol

vast lily
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1st phase dmg check i heard/was previously just getting to the 80% hp 80% sheild. This time it was like 80% shield maybe 20% sheild.

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Just checked boss dummy kill was 24 seconds. instead of 45 before.

tough tiger
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Thats huge. Nearly double the damage then

vast lily
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i was seeing dusk shrouds nearly double too on the dummy, must have been the CDR.

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never changed to the cold dmg either

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I wish i wasn't constantly rolling for HP% before i looked outside of the maxroll planner

tough tiger
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Its the dive bomb node. Spec 4/4 into it and check again

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Hp is good for mapping, not that great for uberroth once u can dps check him

tough tiger
vast lily
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will have to check it out and farm it a bit more tomorrow. time to sleep, was up way too late last night. suprised I wasnt too tired to even get a kill tonight.

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GGs, ty again forthe help. I bashed my head for a lonnnng time against that boss.

tough tiger
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Hahaha we’ve all been there against that trash boss. Sleep like a king now bro

zenith pier
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Hello friends, my Umbral Blade is very weak at level 76, at what level does it start to get stronger?

odd wadi
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Gear

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Farm gear

zenith pier
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only gear ?

vernal zealot
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Umbral blade should be giga from start

hidden osprey
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On dragonsong heartseeker any ring suggestions. Build guide I am following only has red rings and I don't have those yet

sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (48) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 1,714, Regen: 30.2/s
▸ Mana: 192.25, Regen: 9.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 27%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 43 Dex / 10 Int / 34 Att / 34 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 73% / 86% / 105% / 68% / 122% / 61%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 600
▸ Dodge Chance: 15% (454)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (800)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 77%

desert zealot
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Umbral Falconeeds help!

Critique needed!

Downing ordinary Abby like it’s nothing, but getting killed by Uber like it’s nothing.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B58KxP6Q

I’ve followed Maxroll’s guide up until now. Where can I squeeze out the last juice?

sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (22) / Falconer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 2,606, Regen: 35/s
▸ Mana: 247.86, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 127 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 100% / 100% / 76% / 69% / 147% / 96%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 521
▸ Dodge Chance: 52% (1996)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,043)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 21%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 80%

atomic vapor
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looking good to me. you're missing one point of dex in the passive tree but that's it

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I'd max this out

desert zealot
atomic vapor
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I'm running this at 2/4 and I'm consistently at max shadows (you have a max shadows indicator at your buffs) I think it's largely unnecessary maxed out

desert zealot
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How do I know what my max shadows are? 😄

atomic vapor
desert zealot
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Cheers. I'm at three as well with only two points.

atomic vapor
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for uber in particular, something you can do to burst phases faster, is remove points from here

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and go for this

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it's a lot of flat damage

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but it'll make you significantly less tanky for maps

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that however will only work best after you switch relics (so after you manage to farm uber consistently)

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becuase right now your umbrals deal cold damage

desert zealot
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Got ya. I was considering going for a ucenui with dex+throwing damage and forego some survivability

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same for gloves.

atomic vapor
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that's what I went for and sometimes I do get sniped at 1k corruption

desert zealot
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That's not even the same gloves I'm playing 😄

atomic vapor
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these are basically "go all out on damage" gloves, to which the bigger upgrade would be purple cdr gloves with a +1 max shadows champion sealed affix

desert zealot
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What would be your next item slot where you'd look for an upgrade?

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I have a Nihilis with LP1, but only +1 skills. Could go dex on that.

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or throwing damage

atomic vapor
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it's very worthwhile to farm a better one

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put on a good yt playlist and kill normal over and over

desert zealot
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Consider it done. But first to farm harbinger eyes.

atomic vapor
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other than that, check if you're crit capped

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you are not. I'd go crit blessing over multi blessing (black sun)

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or you can use one of these

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I guess you can also farm for a better peak of the mountain if yours rolled low but all your crit problems should get solved once you switch to uber relic

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for now use the blessing

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also I just realized, you don't have umbrals idols yet?

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get two of these

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(use one of them until you are in a position to switch the unique relic out I guess)

vernal zealot
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@atomic vapor comfy vid just got posted, 28sec kill using firestarters torch LMAO

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Dude is so giga brained

atomic vapor
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how come only 28 with so much tech. I'm at 30 and I don't even have the shadow gloves

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I guess minmaxing really hit the cap at this point

vernal zealot
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Your gloves could actually just be better than shadowss glovess tbh@atomic vapor

atomic vapor
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idk dude I imagine 4 falcons ramp up stacks like crazy

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kinda jealous not gonna lie lmaoo

vernal zealot
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I can sometimes peak 180 shrouds

atomic vapor
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I can't go past 140

vernal zealot
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Maybe 200 briefly if the harby jumps in at the right time

atomic vapor
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145 I think I've seen

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which is obviously the math mathing

vernal zealot
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Yeah sounds about exactly right, but the huge crit multi probably ourweighs %incressed, especially with your idols having %inc dmg

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Coupld be worth trying a firestarters though, didn't realise its just 40% more dmg

neon needle
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Hi, I want to give falconer a try but I don't know which build I should do. There is an umbral blades falconer guide using a bow on maxroll. But I also see variations using 2 daggers. Also some seem to drop umbral blades?
I'm mainly looking for a build that lets me easily farm uber aberroth but also has a good time farming echoes to get the gear in the first place. Which one should I go for and what are the advantages and disadvantages of which build?
I have already played another character and have access to some gear, also an LP1 shattered worlds and LP1 red ring if it matters

vernal zealot
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Long and short of it maxroll is kinda outdated, most peopke are doing umbral blades... the dmg difference between bow aqnd dual daggers is almost negligible at top gear

atomic vapor
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the idols on the site are completely wrong btw

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found that out today

neon needle
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Ok, is there an up to date guide you can recommend? I heard that some builds on youtube are also outdated because there was some kind of patch that touched some falconer stuff?

vernal zealot
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Theres been quite a few planners posted recently, the bow and quiver max roll version isnt too bad you just need 2 idols with "umbral blades dmg per dusk shroud"

atomic vapor
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@vernal zealot I did it

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I got a 27

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Uploading it now

vernal zealot
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Ayyy nice with double traitors?

atomic vapor
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Yess

atomic vapor
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Gonna post it on videos, I doubt I can get it lower than this

vernal zealot
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Yeah that was pretty much a perfect kill bro your timing on time shattering slam was insane

atomic vapor
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It's such a massive grind to make it pixel perfect 😭

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Maybe that's me sucking at game

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I bet this character in the hands of someone better can shave off a couple seconds more

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if I manage to make a jungle belt with throw and cdr, I wouldn't be surprised if I can delete the last phase instantly

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that's the biggest time loss

vernal zealot
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I think you can probably rng kill the 1st harby a little faster

atomic vapor
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yes that too probably

vernal zealot
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She survives like half a sec but really thats as close to perfect, you skip all mechanics pretty much

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No superchilled or super fire

atomic vapor
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Also you were right, liraka might be the bis glove

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the damage is out of this world

vernal zealot
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Yeah for sure, i dont think a like 200% increased dmg is competing with double t7 rolls and 120 crit multi

atomic vapor
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I was thnking, no matter how hard they nerf falc, I bet with this gear it'll still be pushing top dps in season 3

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Of course I'm rolling something else next season but it's funny to think

vernal zealot
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20% chance to remove cooldown gets an intrrnal cooldown

atomic vapor
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yeah cdr was the first thing they mentioned in that post

vernal zealot
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But even with a big nerf its also still gonna be versatile and with glancing+dodge its actually almost as high ehp as a tanky erasing striker anyway

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Like even when i mess up and he does triple slam, it never hits anyway lmao

atomic vapor
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If it's actually viable, I think it'd be hilarious if I pushed another falc season 3 😭

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this is the tech I used for the kill

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I think this is as "dps" as it gets, completely ignoring falcon/dive bombs and going all in on umbrals

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my only debate is here, wait

vernal zealot
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I was messing around with the shadow dagger node in umbral but i couldn't see if it gained the dmg from shrouds

atomic vapor
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100% increased dmg from movement speed vs 5 flat physical

vernal zealot
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Or whether it even works lmao, its hard to tell with so much dmg

atomic vapor
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shadow dagger scales with physical, multi and pen so I figured it's good investment for 1 point

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also

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this is what sold it for me

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50% multiplicative

vernal zealot
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I still like some outside sources of increased dmg for when we are ramping

atomic vapor
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It felt like such an easy choice

vernal zealot
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5 flat is probably less than 5% total dmg but not sure

atomic vapor
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what else am I using that's weird let me check

vernal zealot
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Have you tried specced falconry v decoy

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I imagine specced falconry is much better on dual traitors cause of how much crit multi you already have

atomic vapor
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I dropped the 30 stats on dive bomb and got the 1% more per bleed because I'm reaching around 100 bleeds single target so I figured that's the biggest dive bomb increase for minimum investment (I legit considered dropping points into midnight aviary as well)

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Also I added 1 shred because it helps me hit 80 stacks consistently

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(I took crimson shroud for mapping, that can actually go to midnight aviary)

atomic vapor
vernal zealot
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What about the bleed nodes on the right side?

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Idk what youd drop for it though

atomic vapor
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I mean how many stacks would that give me just to buff dive bomb that isn't the main focus anyway, idk

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oh something cool I'm doing

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slow on caltrops

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permanent 3 slow stacks

vernal zealot
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Very nice for traitors version, deadge on quiver

atomic vapor
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exactly yeah 😭

vernal zealot
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Maybe try dropping the crit vuln node on db and put it in bleed stack?

atomic vapor
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hmmmmmm true that's pretty useless

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but I'm not gonna lie it makes crit avoidance maps such a breeze

vernal zealot
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Bro you got 700k amber what da heck you running regular monos for omegalul

atomic vapor
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I started speedrunning normal maps to test how fast I can proc the echo reward imprint

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Because the stupid troves don't accept jewelry

vernal zealot
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You gotta get a weird balance for echo procs too, its only the max chance if you get full stability

atomic vapor
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I've got a giga 2lp nihilis that I still haven't slammed, because I don't have a throw+pen double t7 yet

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wait

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I'm not gonna let the season end before bricking this

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#pledge

vernal zealot
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Its why i kinda stopped messing with sepulchre, they dont have stability so its like minimum chance to imprint proc i thinj

atomic vapor
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makes complete sense

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what ur saying is that troves might still be the fastest for echo rewards

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because one run maxes it out

vernal zealot
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Otherwise if every chest was 50% we would know by now haha

atomic vapor
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I hate that we don't have solid numbers for things, it messes so much with my ocd because I can only make decisions in a vacuum

vernal zealot
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Yeah stunlocked on cemetary screen lol*

atomic vapor
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enter exit enter exit enter exit 😭

vernal zealot
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Troves would be soul crushing for fastest imprint procs but

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Kinda logical

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Maybe look at arena echoes with the -rounds nodes?

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They usually max stability and if you go super arena have 2 champions

atomic vapor
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My issue with that is that it giga slows down the other imprint nodes

vernal zealot
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Yeah... maybe troves is probably the play for everything

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Troves surrounding sepulch stilll... sound familiar? Lol

atomic vapor
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we will never escape this stupid meta lool

vernal zealot
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Unless theres a goodge layout gear for xyz character that can still be done fast for stability

merry flax
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what corruption can crit flurry take you to?

atomic vapor
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first one this season, too bad I don't use it

merry flax
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Is flurry bugged? The extra range node doesn't seem to work and the damage is inconsistent with the shockwaves. It's like they eat at each other instead of working together so your damage gets reduced unless if you miss the shockwaves and land the actual flurry blow

undone dune
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and it only has 50% damage effectivness instead of flurrys 80% (which is already bad) so you will do less damage if you only hit with that

inner stone
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i have a 4 to all skills, 5% crit base 1lp talons - is it hard enough to get the rolls i want/need that i should keep that and turtle/nem it in hopes it gets 2/3LP or should i slam it and then strife/turtle/nem all the other 3% crit base/not full skill bows? i have a bunch, but the bow i've been using is a 2lp, 3% base and missing 2 skills in falconry but i havent slammed it cuz i dont have a good bow yet for 2lp

nvm, slammed the 1lp and what a difference, damn

untold wing
#

I want to play Lethal Mirage bladedancer but I don't want to wait until I have a Black Blade of Chaos to do it. What's the play here? Just...don't play it? Play a different build?

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Is there some sort of, like, interim build that works?

stoic shadow
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@atomic vapor wanna share ur planner?

merry flax
tame rampart
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something's off

lyric narwhal
sharp ravenBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (23) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (58)

General:

▸ Health: 2,445, Regen: 28.32/s
▸ Mana: 266.01, Regen: 10.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 54%, Regen: 36/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 174 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 66% / 66% / 92% / 59% / 58% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 856
▸ Dodge Chance: 44% (1596)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,110)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 70%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

lyric narwhal
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Is this build ok everyone =))))

drowsy flint
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For falconer, is a 4 LP potm with 255% increased crit better or a 3LP with 285% increased crit?

toxic swift
toxic swift
lyric narwhal
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Can I replace it with another ring, or use this unique ring without Lp

vernal zealot
atomic vapor
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penumbra is great

potent arrow
atomic vapor
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@vernal zealot AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

vernal zealot
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Yeah uou will never get the same value as red ring but

atomic vapor
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HELLO?

vernal zealot
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Holy moly the glive farm begins again

atomic vapor
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Dudeeee I don't have a triple t7 😭

vernal zealot
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Inb4 you drop champion affix gloves before uogrsde

atomic vapor
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new farm target unlocked

vernal zealot
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Dex crit multi health/health angle?

atomic vapor
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we're back to the grind bois

vernal zealot
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Ive been chilling doing a modded playthrough on bl3 atm

atomic vapor
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moze best girl

vernal zealot
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Im doing rebalands mod on fl4k atm, moze is so comfy thoufh

atomic vapor
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mags moze with plasma coil

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the dream

vernal zealot
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Im gonna do moze next but just start at max level

foggy rapids
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I'm currently trying to achieve an endgame build for Heartseeker Marksman, following the maxroll build guide. The problem with the guide is multiple pieces of endgame gear are extremely rare. I do have every item except the rings, gloves and chest armour from that build. While I work my way towards those though I'm wondering what I can slot in for those slots. I'm still running around with a rare belt and rings, a pair of gloves from another build and a chest piece that is less than optimal. My current build looks like this - https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7vkKbzQ
I can run corruption level 300 or so. Sometimes the echoes are easy and sometimes they are a struggle. I'd like to get further in corruption levels and maybe make character life a bit easier. What gear and attributes should I realisitically be hunting rather than the maxroll "endgame" stuff, which is more aspirational than endgame inho.

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (62) / Falconer (16)

General:

▸ Health: 2,076, Regen: 36.34/s
▸ Mana: 275.51, Regen: 10.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 50 Dex / 9 Int / 9 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 58% / 72% / 96% / 73% / 38% / 80% / 92%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 48%, Threshold: 726
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (752)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (741)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 19%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 49%

atomic vapor
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have u ever farmed the purple grenade

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the one that splits twice

toxic swift
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I got duplicate 3lp claws before the guaranteed slam existed and one bricked, and the other took the one T7 but also the one stat I didn't want it to

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pain

atomic vapor
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I got double t7 gloves with 100% meme stats

tough tiger
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Damnnn those gloves are crazy George

atomic vapor
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thanks man ❤️ now to grind for purple gloves

vernal zealot
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Huh

woeful ether
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surely +1 shadow gloves easier to farm than the exalteds to slam on those

atomic vapor
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about that

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I er... realized I do have something in my multi lp stash tabs after all

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now granted that sealed affix is gonna mess a lot with the procs

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but all I need is one proc to replace the imprint

woeful ether
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i mean unless you're farming for multiexalt shadows still would be easier hah

atomic vapor
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Idk I haven't seen a single one yet

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let alone with an exalt stat

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I realize I'm narrowing it down a lot by only including the cdr gloves

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but if it has any chance competing with the lirakas

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that's gotta be the cdr +1 shadow combo

woeful ether
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lirakas just because of the crit multi?

atomic vapor
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I mean mine are double t7 slammed + almost maxrolled multi

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1 shadow is about 40 stacks more

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40 stacks is just more increased dmg

woeful ether
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well competing stats would just be the multi vs +1 shadow. at least assuming the exalts are the same since the sealed affix is the pseudo legendary

atomic vapor
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not exactly, because I'm pushing another breakpoint since I also got t7 dex

woeful ether
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though if you're just going for more multipliers wouldn't these be more

atomic vapor
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I'm not using evade on cd to proc that 😭

woeful ether
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just saying :P

woeful ether
atomic vapor
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what I'm saying is that only applies in the event that you get identical purple stats