🔪┃rogue

[flint turret]

I wouldn't care much if it's completely removed even

[atomic vapor]

if it's removed, something has to take its place

game was horrible with only prophecies

[flint turret]

We already have prophecies and mg

And nemesis towers now too

And treasure trove

And void nemesis for weapons

For me id rather see a further upgrade to eternity cache where for example you will be able to use 3 of same 2lp items and select 2 affixes

Or use 2lp item to remove/replace a selected affix from 2-affix legendary

Or something along the lines

Either way I'm pretty happy with the general direction le is going ATM... Except for the balancing approach, and bug ignoring approach, but oh well

[prisma marlin]

I dont understand how they handle bugs

They scapegoat 1 or 2 bugs and ignore all the rest

[flint turret]

On top of it they even chose to fix the bug that results in a direct buff to one of the strongest mastery

[woeful ether]

this is pretty gg over whatever nihilis can give for umbral falconer right?

finally did my first ever aberroth kills 🎊

[severe siren]

umbral blades is our strongest build atm?

[atomic vapor]

I now have 4 double t7 boots, and no perfect 2lp razorfalls

[trail pumice]

i am struggling with 2lp razors as well @atomic vapor

[atomic vapor]

this gotta be the 20th or so 2lp boot from my imprint

that rolls worse dex than my imprinted one

[trail pumice]

oh my god, that would drive me crazy honestly

[atomic vapor]

hope you like gamba bois

[severe siren]

why is bleed falc stacking stun chance? I dont see the scaling

[atomic vapor]

looool wrong loot game

[trail pumice]

jesus

[tacit mist]

why tho

[atomic vapor]

got two of those last season

[slate mulch]

@sage canyon for your acid flask setup, what do you think has the highest survivability, soul gamblers ward, HP+dragon shoes, or stealth+dodge stacking?

[sage canyon]

on high end budget i think block is most but u need double t7 gear etc

hard to get

after that ward is king ofc (with bow)

u have dodge stacking on all of them lol

[slate mulch]

block with firestarter?

[trail pumice]

wouldn't this be good for umbral blades

[small meteor]

better for shadow cascade build ngl

[sage canyon]

ye that one, but imo go ward bow

easier to gear and enough tankiness

[charred ember]

so, how does one actually play umbral blades? what's the rotation/timing/etc?

[tough tiger]

Spam everything

Try to keep smoke cloud on top of mobs for shadow damage

[charred ember]

so just hold down all four keys at all times?

[tough tiger]

3 keys. AA, DB, and falcon strike

Smoke bomb is for repositioning as needed

Or refresh to keep up dps on bosses

One thing i noticed a lot of ppl dont talk about is how dive bomb, when cancelled by another skill AA or falcon strike, refunds 70% of the cd and mana cost

But it still triggers the shadow dive bomb

Thats where you get most of your insane dps

[atomic vapor]

it's not talked about because that was being discussed when the build was being cooked

I think it's common knowledge this deep into the season that the rest of the skills just feed into divebomb

but for the people that still haven't figured out how the build works, yeah sure anyone can ask for clarification

[tough tiger]

Yeah it feeds into the dive bomb is common, but specifically the cancel mechanic to speed things up

I do not see that being discussed anywhere

Or even mentioned

[atomic vapor]

hmm, I'm pretty sure that was the idea behind midnight aviary when it was discovered that shadow falcons harcarry compared to the bow variant

(it's also why I consider the maxroll build so suboptimal)

with talon you spam a lot more regular divebombs due to the unique affix

but with a shadow build you don't care because you've got an army of shadow falcons copypasting the divebombs

it's also the main difference between the bow and dagger setup

[tough tiger]

Yes but again the key is CANCELLING dive bomb == more shadows

[atomic vapor]

yes that's what I mean, that's specifically why you don't take the "your bird freely uses skills while falcons do their thing" next to the shroud stacks node

you want your bird to cast the first fraction of a second of every skill

to force the shadow falcons to act individually

[tough tiger]

Yeah and rushing wings 1/4

[atomic vapor]

(also that's why I keep insisting 5 shadow falcons is better regardless of your max shadow cap. a noticably bigger amount of divebombs since shadows keep overwriting each other)

[tough tiger]

Ohhh is that how it works?

Thats huge i didnt know

[charred ember]

<_> So I'm probably built wrong since I'm using a bow

[atomic vapor]

I'm consistently getting 50second and under uber kills (still don't have dex on boots) with 5/5

when I run 4/5 it goes over a minute

make of it what you will lol

[tough tiger]

Ive been doing a ton of tests too, never tested that one!

I hate how inconsistent dps can be. Rng of shadows spawning, getting the right “rythm” when your skills are spammed

[atomic vapor]

There's obvious outliers in testing, sometimes you just don't proc extra divebombs for a little while

[tacit mist]

sadge rolls on the exalted mods, so I will try to roll it later but it's still an upgrade

[charred ember]

I'm just trying to get my rogue to 100, want to have every one of each up there at cap.

[atomic vapor]

but the "good attempts" are noticably good

[tough tiger]

Youre running sync strike double dagger version right?

[atomic vapor]

mhm

and when I get the damned boots I'll be over 200 dex

and push decent times

[tacit mist]

I'm already over 200 kek

[charred ember]

all my gear is mid and/or unslammed

[atomic vapor]

I don't have t7 on chest and peak because I'm too lazy to farm 4lp peak

if I get those I'll be at i think 210something

but razorfalls come first

[tacit mist]

yeah, I got a few 2 LP ones

just trying to get T7 dex + T7 cdr boots

[atomic vapor]

I got 13 2lp ones, none with 12 dex. and I simply refuse to slam

[charred ember]

stares at 87 dex

[atomic vapor]

I got 4 t7 dex t7 cdr purple boots

4

and not a single perfect razorfall

[tacit mist]

then why tf do you wait ?

[atomic vapor]

my best razorfalls are 9 dex

I want 12

lol

[tacit mist]

2 LP has 33% chance of hitting anyways

[static kestrel]

0_0 Is that Mirage BBC angle?

[atomic vapor]

I don't wanna hit non maxrolled boots, there's nothing to do in the season but minmax

so I don't wanna miss on 3 dex

[tacit mist]

even if you get perfect ones you have 1 in 3 of hitting the slam anyways and then those perfectly rolled go to she trashcan

[atomic vapor]

4 boots

no way I won't hit it

plus the first 2/12 I get

I'm imprinting

[tough tiger]

Trove imprinting or echoing riches? I feel like i get soooo many from echoing compared to trove

[tacit mist]

just slam and if you hit gamble 2 LP clean ones or brick mods from nemesis to reroll mods to 2/12

[atomic vapor]

both

[tough tiger]

Do you notice a big difference too?

[atomic vapor]

no that also rolls the dex

and the cdr

[atomic vapor]

troves give everything so there's no reason to run anything else

fast echo reward

many chests

and mobs

[tough tiger]

Yeah i mean do you see a razorfall drop often from trove chest?

I get more often from echoing riches

[atomic vapor]

yes but only because there's more chests

I do get consistent echo rewards though

[static kestrel]

Is it self sustainable with one folly per 5 troves?

[atomic vapor]

no but I play in a party

💪

so we take turns

[static kestrel]

dirty trick

xD

[atomic vapor]

yessir

;P

[tough tiger]

Hmm ok my rng is weird then. I feel like trove sucks for uniques. Great for exalts

[atomic vapor]

I get a boatload of boots from chests

[charred ember]

so if the maxroll umbral falconer builds is... not great, what should I follow? or should I find a seperate build somewhere else since all my gear is bad.

[tacit mist]

if you want uniques then probably wildwood folly + 5 shrines strat could work

[tough tiger]

I’ll have to try again! I do get a SHITTON of traitors tongues from the top imprint. I have like 5 3lp ones in a few hours

[atomic vapor]

I got so. many. freaking. daggers

but I'm done with daggers

[tacit mist]

Dragonsong Fire Heartseeker seems quite okay to farm up to 400-500 corruption, at least it was for me

[tough tiger]

I actually have a question on that. What stats on the dagger scale dmg the most? And does crit multi even scale anything?

Flat melee > phys pen > melee minion dmg?

[atomic vapor]

I think everything matters, to a varying degree

[charred ember]

so I shouldn't use the cold variant?

[tacit mist]

apparently it's one of the best outcomes using T7 + T5 + T5 exalt

[atomic vapor]

I've got double flat pen in one, flat multi pen in the other

and I'm fine

[tough tiger]

I think its a good start, you can just swap the bow and quiver for double daggs later for more damage

[charred ember]

and some respeccing I'd imagine

[tough tiger]

What is multi good for? I dont think it scales the falcon

[charred ember]

I have b unch of daggers just sitting around

[tacit mist]

I personally didn't like cold, but it might have been due to which skills I was using

[atomic vapor]

I've used a dagger with and without and I haven't noticed any reliable difference in kill speed

to the point that the variance in divebombs is greater lol

I have a 2lp slammed with double t7 flat phys and phys pen

same difference for uber at least

[tough tiger]

Yeah but whats the math? How does crit multi on dagger give it to the falcon

Only thing i can think of is that one skill node, but only when you make a melee,throwing , or bow attack

Bottom right of falcon tree

But i tested it and it doesnt seem to work

[atomic vapor]

I might be tripping but last time juse was active wasn't he discussing multi for the sync strike?

I never wondered whether it doesn't get passed down

[tough tiger]

In theory it should, but i tried with throwing and it didnt work

Sync makes a melee attack, so falcon should get 25% of your crit multi (2x buff 10s)

[atomic vapor]

I'm gonna do some boss target dummy attempts tomorrow because I do have the weapon swaps

[tough tiger]

If its not working, thats a HUGE dps loss

I tested and i dont see a dmg increase

[atomic vapor]

this is why we need a character sheet that isn't from walmart man

god when will they overhaul it

[tough tiger]

We need minion sheet/buffs lol

[atomic vapor]

not even the tooltip dps or crit is remotely accurate let alone all that

for example the crit from worldsplitter doesn't appear anywhere

my friend's sheet says 38% crit chance

[tough tiger]

The sheet kinda makes sense in that case, but yeah the tooltip dps should know

[atomic vapor]

I agree because it's one particular skill but that still should be visible info

[tough tiger]

For sure yeah

“Skill crit chance”

Also whats your sheet crit chance?

My falcon isnt crit capped lol

[tough tiger]

Im gonna test this now, its bothering me

[atomic vapor]

my sheet chance is 81%

[tough tiger]

Oh wtf

Your falcon isnt even close to crit capped then?

Whats your black suns blessing

If crit multi swap to increase crit and see your dps

[atomic vapor]

interesting

[tough tiger]

can't see anything

[tacit mist]

🔍

[tough tiger]

oh shit thats crazyy

you got a build planner? curious to see your gear

[tacit mist]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ShaggyTheGWNE/character/Heartseeker

[tough tiger]

yeah the crit multi doesn't get passed down, tested it a lot

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/falconry-exposed-weakness-is-not-working/76989

wait that's a known issue..that's an insane dps loss...

[tough tiger]

is that accurate? how is in the vid phys res shred stacks but nothing allocated in the planner

[tacit mist]

Greater Blessing

[tough tiger]

ahh nice one

[brave heath]

Hello. I've started building an umbral blades falconer. Does anyone know how dive bomb comes into the skill rotation? It seems dive bomb just early stops aerial assault and doesn't do much damage. I'm not yet in mono.

[tough tiger]

curious, why are you not getting the 33% crit multi in finesse them passive tree? Why throwing dam if stacking shadow dive bombs in idols

would increase shadow dmg be better?

[atomic vapor]

I just realized, I don't understand why my obs files refuse to work on discord

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/11882016216822005927/CD3F0035CA0B539815A1E50ACD628B5F5AC7E012/

does this work

[trail cradle]

hey guys

which domain u recommend?

bladedancer seems interesting

[tough tiger]

that works, and yeah thats clean! nice!

[atomic vapor]

I need to play with my obs a lot more

I tried 3 different extensions

nothing embeds

[tough tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn6RirQfNxI&ab_channel=derZonk

This one is similar time using umbral

[atomic vapor]

I wanna try umbral but I don't have the idols yet

testing if this embeds

https://streamable.com/9ludor

ugh

anyway that's a little random mapping at 1k gonna just leave it there

I don't think it's that slow, even with the divebomb delays that juse dislikes

[thin quartz]

https://streamable.com/p366qt my echos. the Circle of Life.

[hearty bison]

What is better for heartseeker rogue Ravenous Void or Immortal Vise

[trail pumice]

@atomic vapor you got an update to your build?

[sage canyon]

vise better

for uber, for monos imo void better

[thin quartz]

do you mind explaining if youve done some math or something. i would like to know this too

[sage canyon]

for hits vise is 30% dr basically and vs dots it has armor to dots, with rav void its 15% always and if it procs becomes 30% but then takes a long while to get back all stacks and also way less armor which rogue needs

for uber fight vise is just safer but if you play perfectly it doesnt matter

[hearty bison]

so if im farming monos and not bosses i should use vise?

[sage canyon]

no, the other way lol vise on uber, ravenous in monos. but both works well anywhere

[thin quartz]

i see

[flint turret]

Its not just 30 for hits, it's 30% for hits + another 30% for everything under endurance

[unreal halo]

Hey yall, im coming back to the game after a break and making a rogue. Is poison flask still a viable endgame build?

[atomic vapor]

I just dropped the crit multi dagger because apparently that doesn't get transferred to your falcon regardless of the skill node saying an amount of your weapon's stats with no exception stated

Sometimes, this game's tooltip descriptions infuriate me

[trail pumice]

Can you link your build planner please and thank you 🙏

[atomic vapor]

It's far from optimized, for example my flat dagger is t7 flat t5 pen. And I'm also testing a huge idol with 9 phys pen with dagger so take it with a grain

account Blasdrimal, character Sylvie

[trail pumice]

I just want to have a look at what people are playing, I have switched to lizards build right now to test it

[atomic vapor]

Yeah I play sync strike

Lizard is the bow variant

Imo both sync strike and shroud stack umbrals are far better than the maxroll one

consider respeccing

[trail pumice]

I am just playing about with different build variants, I am going to spec into yours later today and see how I like it

[atomic vapor]

If you have the idols I suggest going shroud stack umbrals instead

It has less rng in its dps

Sync strike is a little wobbly because of the rng in the extra divebomb procs, which obviously evens out given time, but when bosses melt in seconds, the time between kills is noticable

Oh also I don't suggest going WW amulet post nerf because the +skills are more important. You need them for the feathers in dive bomb. They weren't mandatory before because divebomb was bugged and procced them regardless but now I'm running 3 points into it and the difference is day and night

Also for bossing jungle belt is more dps but I'm using brew belt for mapping for more safety

[trail pumice]

I have a few idols for umbral stacks, ill tweak it and mess about to see how it plays out later on today

[austere atlas]

i have rerolled this lp1 red ring 7 times and still get +4 all attributeszzzzz

[vernal zealot]

anybody noticed coordinated fate isnt working?

[tough tiger]

It doesnt work for some skills

[tough tiger]

I was doing some feather testing too, i think the feather only hits 1 extra enemy not the same enemy multiple times

[vernal zealot]

yeah after a bit of testing its actually just bugged

works on login but breaks after zone transition

(specifically for any falcon skill)

[tough tiger]

Dive bomb doesnt work, AA and strikes does work

[vernal zealot]

works fine if you have something like dark quiver in slot one

it does work on dive bomb on equip, but breaks after zone tranistion

[tough tiger]

Oh shit thats interesting

God so many buggy things with falcon

[vernal zealot]

after i killed aberoth

[vernal zealot]

yeah its something to do with falcon despawning when you zone transition from my testing, if you usummon and resummon it works again

[tough tiger]

Oh interesting, i never got dive bomb to work at all so atleast its somewhat possible

Does falcons havoc actually give frenzy to anyone? Its that one node in aerial assault on the bottom right

I should be getting 3.6 seconds of frenzy but i dont see it

[atomic vapor]

For me between 1-3 points I see a huge impact. Am I gaslighting myself?

Also the coordinated fate thing was known all season iirc

Maxroll states put AA in slot 1 and nothing else

But I think I saw a discussion about it before the guide was even up

[vernal zealot]

no matter which falcon skill it is it breaks

after zone transition it despawns falcon and it disables something

they fixed it XDD

[trail pumice]

this or nihilis?

[vernal zealot]

nvm its giga bricked

[undone dune]

How is it bricked you never get silver shroud from it?

[tough tiger]

yeah, unless there's another bug working. I just tested it again

[undone dune]

Slot 1 is the leftmost slot and works with AA for me

[tough tiger]

also based on the description it's read to be aoe - like extra enemies hit not same enemy hit multiple times

[woeful ether]

what's the stat priority for traitors for umbral falc? it seems crit multi isn't actually #1?

[undone dune]

I wouldn't be surprised if featherfall could hit the same enemy multiple times but I am like 99% sure that would be a bug

[prisma marlin]

it might be time to run a multi shot alt

[undone dune]

If you are actually trying to scale umbrals and use them for DPS its multi, phys pen, phys damage, shred

If you are using umbrals to scale divebomb damage you want high tier flat damage and the flat minion damage suffic

[atomic vapor]

same, consistently so as well

[woeful ether]

how do i tell if its umbral or divebomb?

i mean what should be scaled i guesss

[undone dune]

It's different builds

[atomic vapor]

I'll keep trying it out but I get very different results

[undone dune]

The divebomb build doesn't even specialize umbrals it just happens to throw them

[woeful ether]

oh i have umbrals. are they basically similar in play tho?

i'm switching from talon bow to traitors and only have 1-2 lp traitors

[tough tiger]

Throw a dive bomb to the side and you see the feather fall first

Look at the dmg

Then add more points and see it again

[undone dune]

Similar playstyle but different damage sources and gearing

[tough tiger]

How are you testing it?

[undone dune]

Umbral builds stack dusk shroud as high as possible. Divebomb builds stack umbrals sitting in the ground as high as possible

[atomic vapor]

I've been having a consistent 2 second kill speed difference on the boss dummy, I didn't check for visual cues you're right

if this is just the divebomb variance, it's so frustrating

[woeful ether]

i see. i guess i'll just stick to my current setup. thanks a lot ❤️

[tough tiger]

Agreed this build is kinda annoying tbh. Im kinda done with it

[atomic vapor]

I'm considering going umbrals only for the consistency but I have only one midrolled idol

I'll see what I can do when they drop

but god this build is so much single target damage

[tough tiger]

Even hybrid umbral its so hard to test stuff

The dps is insane tho

[trail pumice]

@atomic vapor this is my current build https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/kruda/character/Kracked for umbral

gear is not the best and red rings got nuked :)(

[silver agate]

If i go to higher tier slamming dungeon, can i choose more stats to slam, or is it allways 1 and the rest is random?

[atomic vapor]

my deepest condolences man, I pumped hard season start for the red rings to get done with them as soon as possible

tore through hundreds of maps until I was done

[trail pumice]

these are my first ever red rings, tbh

[atomic vapor]

that 1/8 for 1lp is giga annoying

[tough tiger]

My first acc i went dry for days without red ring like 500k favor

Other acc, within 2hours and 200k favor 2 and then another from imprint

All 1lp

[trail pumice]

this build needs a lot of work, i know it does but i will hopfully get there

omg 😮

[prisma marlin]

nemesis egg time!

and regardless of outcome of nemesis empower i would imprint the RR with max rolls

[trail pumice]

oh im gonna imprint it

[atomic vapor]

imprint after egg

counts as 1lp

but I hope you get the lp obviously lol

[trail pumice]

what is this nemesis egg ?

i haven't heard of this

oh i know wat it is

ignore me

haahahahah

[tough tiger]

Hell yeahh lets go

[trail pumice]

i will keepe veryone updated ❤️

well

[undone dune]

your build confuses the hell out of me

[trail pumice]

why?

[undone dune]

you dont have flock of crows or midnight aviary maxed

you arn't using cacophany of steel

(the spinning umbral blades)

[trail pumice]

it is still a work in progress

[undone dune]

i see

most of the skills are like way below even level 20

that might be why

it does look more like you are building a midnight aviary build though, which generally doesn't want the explosive nodes in umbral blades because they will time out faster with that

so you will get less damage

[trail pumice]

so going exploding is the best way ?

[undone dune]

its different builds

spin+explosions +flock of crows for tons of dusckshrouds and scale umbral blades damage (with the idols too those are important)

or flat damage + non exploding, non spinning umbrals (probably not specialized at all) and max midnight aviary and damage with shadows

for divebomb

what you linked looks half way to both

although that helm makes me think you are more interested in divebomb

oh wait you have the dusk shrowd idols xdd

i feel like you should commit 1 direction or the other

and not get stuck somewhere half way between both

[trail pumice]

i am gonna commit to the spinning umbral blades

[undone dune]

then you want crit multi not flat melee phys on your daggers

because umbral blades is not a melee skill the flat melee phys doesn't do anything

it technically scales shadow daggers damage but i dont believe shadow daggers scales with dusk shroud stacks so it wont do much

[trail pumice]

thank you for the input ❤️

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/kruda/character/kracked i have updated the build so it has max out skills, but ignore umbral, gonna respec that side of things

[undone dune]

this is very important if you are using the umbral damage per dusk shroud idols

[trail pumice]

okay, i will spec into that

[undone dune]

also idk how accurate this is but it looks like you have a shattered worlds imprinted in your weaver tree?

i dont think thats going to do anything

thats a boss drop

the weaver tree stuff might not be accurate though

[trail pumice]

i have it in my stash

just have a very bad imprint on it

[woeful ether]

dang is there anything i really need to change about my build lol https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZvw8K8B

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (70)

General:

▸ Health: 1,764, Regen: 64/s
▸ Mana: 240, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 170 Dex / 10 Int / 10 Att / 33 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 95% / 95% / 101% / 81% / 93% / 96%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 353
▸ Dodge Chance: 47% (1721)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,707)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 82%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Umbral Blades / Aerial Assault / Smoke Bomb / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[undone dune]

you are specced midnight aviary and spinning umbral blades

it just doesn't work great togeather

also why is everyone using Ucenui?

[woeful ether]

so do you just not take dancing shadows?

i don't have null potent yet

[undone dune]

ucenui is the relic not the chest

[woeful ether]

oh uh umbrals are cold

[undone dune]

its such a minor increase though

for the build

a good exalted is way better if you dont need the resistance

I didn't say anything for kruda because he had a 3lp

[woeful ether]

i need the res atm to swap off but also don't have a great exalt relic

[atomic vapor]

if you need shattered worlds ask for help here when you have a map

one of us should be free sooner or later

[undone dune]

the important take away though, if you are trying to rely on divebomb to do damage you do that by scalign midnight aviary (which requires umbral blades in teh ground). The spinning umbral blades not limits the number of umbral blades in the ground you can have to 3

so it doesn't work

you cant use both

you have to choose if you want to scale umbral blades damage (stacking dusk shroud and using flock of crows)

or if you want to give up on umbral blades doing any damage at all and just scaling divebomb

[woeful ether]

i have 2 uberroths but i want to try do it solo :)

does divebomb need idols like umbral does

[undone dune]

divebomb uses idols that have the suffix "increasd damage for skills used by shadows"

which are 1x3

umbral uses idols with the prefix "Increased damage with umbral blades per stack of dusk shroud" which are 4x1

[tough tiger]

Any feedback on this? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOgaXkYB

I kill uberroth pretty consistently 20+ times. Around ~90s per kill. Best is around 60s, besides 2x T7 armor and boots, what would be the biggest improvement?

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (69)

General:

▸ Health: 2,454, Regen: 42.28/s
▸ Mana: 212.16, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 181 Dex / 24 Int / 24 Att / 33 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 78% / 78% / 95% / 83% / 81% / 86%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 556
▸ Dodge Chance: 60% (2593)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,815)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 17%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Falconry / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Dive Bomb

[atomic vapor]

that's a nasty belt I'm jealous

from my experience, gloves aren't too hard to get

my jungle belt is depression tier but I'm not farming anything but boots till I'm done

[undone dune]

i mean if you are killing uberoth its working, there are tiny nitpicky things I would mess with like the 1 point you have in midnight aviary to CDR but its so minor

[atomic vapor]

I just got this but I'm gonna keep farming

good imprint at least

[undone dune]

60->90 seconds based on boss movement RNG is about how fast i kill it with talons

i do still think crit multi daggers will be better than flat phys daggers though

[tough tiger]

belts are wayy easier than boots. Good point on gloves, I do have some 2lp ones

[atomic vapor]

I'll imprint the 3lp one once I'm done with my other stuff

I guilt tripped my friend into helping me with lightless

to get done with helm

[undone dune]

getting thorwing damage on gloves would be amazing, but getting hybrid life, or even elemetnal resist would be super good for your build as a 2lp

your ele res is barely capped so getting some nulll value on that is nice

[atomic vapor]

this took me 12 attempts

I'd show you all the bricked ones but I used them to reroll

[tough tiger]

thanks, yeah I think midnight aviary is a bit useless with the way I have umbral specced. I tested playing with the CDR node and the one that gives 18% more dmg but 18% less cdr it's so hard to tell what's actualyl doing more dps tho

damn those gloves are nasty

[atomic vapor]

how common is 3lp jungle

is it easier than brew

[undone dune]

jungle is like LP level 0

[atomic vapor]

well ok it isn't because brew is a target farm

[undone dune]

its super easy to get 3 or even 4lp its just a super rare item

[tough tiger]

belt when they drop from echoing riches, i get like 3 at a time. So its pretty easy

vs 1 boot per imprint

[atomic vapor]

I got the chachinggg 4 boots from one chest a couple of times

but you can guess how good they were

[tough tiger]

I'll look for some better rolled gloves to slam this, I think it'll increase dps by little bit

[atomic vapor]

imo don't go as ocd as I am going

[undone dune]

i do think that if you are killing uber that fast unless you really want to push corruption you dont need much more dps

more life would be good

only 2500 is scary

but to each your own once your gear gets that good

[tough tiger]

True but if I'm gonna push corruption I rather run warpath/ES vk. I feel it clears faster and easier

i hate inconsistency of falcon

[atomic vapor]

es struggles with shades

a lot

[undone dune]

umbral blades ( especially with talons and not tongues) feels pretty consistant to me

[atomic vapor]

I should probably try to make one decent talon before season 3 but man

I detest quivers

so much

[undone dune]

quivers really arn't that bad

[trail pumice]

i have this one

[atomic vapor]

I don't know what to say they just seem to hate me

[atomic vapor]

if that cdr was t7 it'd be better than my bricked one

[tough tiger]

So i was doing some rough math on this. We have about 270% crit multi on falcon base and double daggers is ~300% crit multi from the implicits on dagger (30% of 50+50 midroll)

T7 crit multi is 88% maxrolled (so roughly 27% inherited to falcon) this is less than 10% *more *dmg
T7 phys is 65 maxroll (so like 20 base melee inherited to falcon)

So it's 27% crit multi on falcon vs 20 base melee

[undone dune]

if you are dealing damage with umbral blades then the t7 phys adds nothing

its only affecting divebomb

[trail pumice]

i am currently trying to get a better belt/helmet right now

[undone dune]

but my umbral blades tooltip with 70 stacks is like 2 million

it does alll the damage

[atomic vapor]

same man same well not "currently" because the boots are living in my nightmares rent free

but that's what I'm doing right after

[tough tiger]

true, but i still think dive bomb is doing >70% of total dps

even on umbral

[trail pumice]

i just slammed another helmet and got this lmao

[atomic vapor]

don't slam 2lp peaks

3lp are super common

[tough tiger]

ya but you gotta run that garbage dungeon lol

[undone dune]

just get the dungeon mobs done on your weaver tree

[trail pumice]

yeah, that dungeon

[atomic vapor]

yeeeah

[undone dune]

high lp peaks drop plenty

[atomic vapor]

I'm gonna let you guys know when I grind for 4lp

see if i can get it in 1 evening

2 people is twice as fast

[trail pumice]

so the best way to get 3lp is to do that horrible dungeon?

[undone dune]

nah

just put 2 points in this

and get it eventually

[tough tiger]

So i personally think the best affix is T7 phys pen.

It either gives 22% to minion OR if falcon inherits the other 22% its a total pen of ~28%

That's almost double the *more * dmg either T7 crit multi or flat gives.

[atomic vapor]

gonna post this here just for the memes

getting this into an egg rn

place your bets

[trail pumice]

its gonna give something dumb

[atomic vapor]

I say

minion dodge

[tough tiger]

and T7 minion melee gives 32 straight up. That's 50% more than what the 65 flat gives.

imo it's phys pen>minion melee>crit multi>flat

[tough tiger]

anything on daggers is only affecting dive bomb actually

[undone dune]

crit multi would affect umbral

but otherwise yeah

pretty much

[tough tiger]

how does it affect umbral? doesnt the falcon throw it

[atomic vapor]

wait...

I've got one more step

[tough tiger]

slam and crit

ez

[atomic vapor]

did you see that guy on general

that slammed 2 stats on a 1lp peak

got them juicy t1s in

I would've cried myself to sleep

didn't even know it was possible to get 2 affixes in with crit slam

[tough tiger]

oh man neither did I

[undone dune]

the falcon throws it for you

so it uses your stats

the wording is really bad

[tough tiger]

ohhhh

wow ok that makes more sense

[atomic vapor]

yo I might not be looting umbral idols

but I'm decking my friend out

weird rng game but thanks

[tough tiger]

jesus that's good

i have like 15 umbral idols

you can't find any?

[atomic vapor]

a singular midrolled one

haven't used prophecies yet

but natural drops no

[tough tiger]

i didnt either

i think i got a bunch by running idol reward echos, and I had a few with 2-3 near each other

so i put that woven echo that gives nearby rewards

and got a shitton

[trail pumice]

yeah i think ive got more stuff for my friends build than my own build

not bad i suppose

[atomic vapor]

I dropped a triple t7 sentinel chest with prebuilt ES

[atomic vapor]

mine stayed 1lp

F

[trail pumice]

f

[atomic vapor]

but my friend has had better luck, best find so far was a quad purple belt

two t7

that thing has never left his imprint

[tough tiger]

wow thats sick

best I had was triple T7 ring

[atomic vapor]

this is thanks to him

sent it to me with obsidian

wasn't my find

(that's how i'll make my jungle belt in the future too)

[atomic vapor]

even if i somehow manage to brick four t7 dex/cdr boots

this is probably my best find this season other than the sentinel chest

[trail pumice]

so who has the best current umbral build?

[round depot]

should i be able to kill uber with this build ? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/DirtyDomo/character/DomoSama

[atomic vapor]

chadilao should be the most minmaxed right now

[atomic vapor]

easily

[round depot]

so im just bad

[round depot]

so 158 Dex and resis and dodge is fine ?

damn then i have to learn this mf

[atomic vapor]

can you get two dex more? it'll help you a ton

[round depot]

hmmm ill chcek

[atomic vapor]

check if you have all your passive dex from the trees

i didn't look your skills up

[round depot]

passive check

[atomic vapor]

you can murder him with your gear but yeah

the obvious upgrade would be better boots, if you have purples with cdr laying around

[round depot]

shoes with cdr and new razor ?

[atomic vapor]

either that or, I guess +10 shattered worlds

I don't see another easy source

[woeful ether]

if im getting 1 shot at 550 corr but can kill stuff do i stay/go higher or drop down?

[round depot]

hmm alright only got 500mill left

purple shoes easy

[atomic vapor]

like I said it's not mandatory

you should be able to snipe him

[round depot]

what do u mean with snipe ?

skip phases ?

[atomic vapor]

take him down ;P

[round depot]

kk

im get to first harb then insta down

[atomic vapor]

do you wanna kill him solo? I can help real quick

[round depot]

naaaa thnak you ver ymuch but its only the solo thing left

[atomic vapor]

gotcha gotcha understandable

[round depot]

i did him a lot with other guys

just my season ending XD

[atomic vapor]

im very confident you can kill it exactly as you are

[round depot]

yeah maybe i just have to lern him better

[atomic vapor]

but if you want that extra damage increase, 160 dex is your best bet

[round depot]

the other guys always skipped mostly everythng XD

[atomic vapor]

yeah... that's how we do it 😭

[round depot]

skipp with 160 owuld be pssoible and diff idols which i have ?

or full programm

[atomic vapor]

I'm not sure actually because I haven't played umbrals myself yet

I'm sticking to sync strike divebomb for now

[round depot]

i tried that as well but yeah

went back to ono clear

ok thnaks man ill try tomorrow i guessi m tired

[round depot]

thats more the boss only killer build right ? mind to share ?

[atomic vapor]

I'm chilling at 1k corruption clear wise, but umbrals clear is better yeah

[round depot]

im 1200 also its ok and enough for me

[atomic vapor]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Blasdrimal/character/Sylvie

here you go

[trail pumice]

anyone need razors?

[woeful ether]

@undone dune i can do a 15 second aberroth thanks for the build help lmao

[undone dune]

with divebomb?

[woeful ether]

na umbral

[undone dune]

15 second with umbral is insane

[woeful ether]

i moved the points around

regular ab

not uber

[undone dune]

ohhhh

ok

that makes sense

[woeful ether]

its my first time getting to aberroth

[undone dune]

👍

the important part is to have him inside the smokebomb so that the shadow falcons are hitting him

[atomic vapor]

I was just about to ask what the hell lol

[undone dune]

thats where the damage comes from

[atomic vapor]

anything spicy?

[trail pumice]

this one, but only one 1LP 😦

[atomic vapor]

😔

[trail pumice]

time to hit some eggs to see what i can get from these

[austere atlas]

do u know if the imprints can guarantee sealed affix that doestn have shard

[trail pumice]

i suppose thanks, but i dont need it 😄

[tough tiger]

consistently can kill uberroth in <60s now

+5 dex from 2lp gloves (missed T5 throwing and hit hybrid) and 3lp traitor tounge swap

T7 flat phys->crit multi and T5 pen+ T5 minion dmg

that's ~90s to <60s

can kill before 2nd slam now

and even before kamahameha

Im only 180dex too, with T7 on armor and boots it should be about 25% more dmg

[woeful ether]

had t7 shred and t5 throwing... :(

big sad

[austere atlas]

RIP

[austere atlas]

pretty sure flat phys juist sucks now

[silver agate]

Hey guys, i have a question for BladeDancers
I am pretty new, i got my damage to respectable level and i can handle starting 100corruption empowered damage-wise, but i keep getting 1shot.

So what type of defence do you do on bladedancer?
Tell my if im wrong, but i`m not sure more HP is the answer, random crits i sometimes get are around 3k, so id have to have around 4k hp to be safe, seems hard to do with beginner EQ.
So maybe stack dodge chance?

[flint turret]

With 3k you can be farming around 1000 corr on average build if you don't discard other defense layers

Nothing hits for 3k at 100 corr except things you are never supposed to facetank

Even regular aberroth has nothing that hits for 3k except the slam with a 10 second wind-up

[silver agate]

Hmm gonna get some more gold for gear then, from what i see, getting other defence layers on the same items might be expensive xd

i mostly die when i have to get in melee range with champions

they hit super hard

[prisma marlin]

Just curious but what’s your resistances and crit avoidance at?

[silver agate]

resistances all at 75%, but no crit avoidance

[flint turret]

Better post your planner

For bd there is also an option to go low life

[prisma marlin]

Ok are you using any crit reduction ?

[flint turret]

It has better ehp pool but worse sustain

[silver agate]

Gonna read up more on that, but from what i see now, to get another layer i need to get A LOT of stats for it, like getting 100 dodge on another item will boost my dodge chance for just few %, so i`d need items with multiple very good rolls for each layer

[flint turret]

You can live perfectly fine without dodge on bd

[silver agate]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxMOma7o

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 91

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (76)

General:

▸ Health: 1,179, Regen: 77.45/s
▸ Mana: 135.96, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 9 Dex / 5 Int / 5 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 89% / 80% / 72% / 101% / 83% / 69%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 236
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (415)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (476)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Synchronized Strike / Lethal Mirage / Umbral Blades

[atomic vapor]

so I cleared out my tabs and these are the best ones I managed to squeeze out

How we feeling? am I getting a 2lp?

[silver agate]

At least my damage is good, my shadow cascade mostly does around 7-8k aoe

[trail pumice]

i believe in you @atomic vapor

do better than me at least, all mines have dodge rating 😦

[atomic vapor]

did I show you my new gigachad imprint? wait

[flint turret]

I'm at a bit of a loss. Why you were talking about 3-4k hp when you are running with 1k

[trail pumice]

so does LP matter on the tree, okay i didn't think of that @atomic vapor

[atomic vapor]

absolutely

[silver agate]

I meant i have to have around 3k hp to avoid getting 1shot, if some champion hits me when i`m not at full hp

[trail pumice]

i am so freaking silly at times 😄

[silver agate]

often i take 2 or more hits at the same time if there is a group

[prisma marlin]

Id focus on not getting hit if truly the only thing are champions 1 shotting you. Use smoke bomb to gain silver shroud stacks and then don’t get too close

[silver agate]

hmm i`ll try building up smoke bomb shadows and then doing lethal mirage on cooldown from safe distance then

[flint turret]

I don't understand your build at all, but we can skip the build itself to discuss the defences

[austere atlas]

wait rly wow

[trail pumice]

i haven't really infested in this game till season 2 😦

[atomic vapor]

it's no shame not knowing something lol. I've been playing since pre multiplayer and I'm wrong about things every day

isn't that part of the game too

[silver agate]

i just do smokebomb teleport > synchronized strike for shadows > shadow cascade and everything just dies, also with thrash whole screen explodes because 40% chance for another shadow on kill that casts another shadow cascade

[trail pumice]

i have been playing since beta came out and i never really dived into builds, and all this stuff

[silver agate]

And i just switch to mirage for single targets

[trail pumice]

this is as deep as ive got this season

[silver agate]

damage-wise it works well

[flint turret]

Usually you want to have hybrid health on all slots that can roll it:belt, gloves, boots, and health % on body and helm

Also you want all(or at least most) idols with % health

And if you are running hp build you want to have leech

[atomic vapor]

got this fat thing today as well (I've got so many with 1% it's nuts)

[flint turret]

The next most important defense layer is endurance. You always want it capped on a health build

[silver agate]

ah, i didnt know what endirance was, have zero probably

[flint turret]

And also you want to have either crit avoid or crit damage reduction

[silver agate]

another thing to correct then 😄

[flint turret]

I can see as much but it doesn't have the most powerful nodes in cascade and you don't really have a use for lm, because you want to use shadows for cascade and lm is useless without shadows

Also you are super overcapped on crit

You have like 200% crit chance or something

Well maybe 150, but still

[silver agate]

ah, the damage part probably sucks and it would hurt me in higher corruption, but i just got to 130 and i guess for that its more than enough anyway xd

i have 122% melee crit chance, will switch some stuff for something else

The only thing that stops me is the price, i have 5 million gold farmed, and i had enough to buy damage affix items, but if i need to buy items with both damage and good defence affixes, i guess 5mil wont be enough for a set xd

[flint turret]

For some quick fixes I would recommend to drop out peak for any decent exalted or 1lp tundra, get 1lp titan body, 1-3 lp siphon ring, crab ring, eternal exalted gloves or Riverbend or erased gloves, 0-1lp anchor relic, swine 1lp phys amulet, 1lp brew or elecoe or chains belt, boots can be stymied or anything you can get like decent exalted with move+cdr+hybrid or uniques like metropolis, stealth, razorfall, exile and what not

[flint turret]

Its more because cascade has 10% base chance and you have a node in it for extra +2% base too

[silver agate]

ah, this node was just to get to shadow on kill

[trail pumice]

this is just my luck... LP 3 item, gives me 4 instead and can't use it lmao

[flint turret]

I don't believe that 1lp items are expensive

[trail pumice]

love my life guys

[atomic vapor]

never ever ever ever slam something with an affix of a different class

[flint turret]

How? You forget to select an affix?

[trail pumice]

i selected T7 dex

[atomic vapor]

no it crit slammed

[trail pumice]

i made mistakes 😦

[flint turret]

Ah it can crit regardless?

[silver agate]

pasting it into notepad and getting to work 😄

[atomic vapor]

yes

[silver agate]

Thanks man!

[flint turret]

Didn't know that

[atomic vapor]

literally the worst timing with a crit slam

[trail pumice]

i am gonna print this image off and cry

[atomic vapor]

in such cases for future reference, either yeet the class affix by chaos, despair or if t5... try to remove it lol

(I hate that rune I don't consider it an option anymore)

[flint turret]

Well, 3lp peak is easy to get, so that nit an end of the world. Exalted also wasn't multi exalted

[atomic vapor]

still would've been a great carry till multi exalt, the previous helm was worse

oh well

[trail pumice]

yes my current helm is trash

[atomic vapor]

peaks are especially notorious for getting giga bricked like that because of the low legendary potential level

they have a relatively good chance to crit slam

[flint turret]

I don't really see how it's trash

[trail pumice]

should i run this helm instead? 😄

[prisma marlin]

Oh no! omg BRICKED

[atomic vapor]

I think this needs to be a warning somewhere in this season lol, I've seen so many such cases of someone bricking their own item with an affix of another class

either on the cache or on discord or somewhere

[trail pumice]

tbh 8 pairs of razors bricked today so

[flint turret]

I'd recommend looking into some cascade guides/planners because there is a lot to fix among skills and passives

[atomic vapor]

there's a difference between "just bricked" and "literally can't wear it" lol

[austere atlas]

if ur damage is coming from shadows use this one

[atomic vapor]

it depends on the dex. if it passes the dex threshold I'd use the higher dex one

[austere atlas]

unless the additional dex from the other item allows u to hit a 20DEX breakpoint

[atomic vapor]

exactly

[austere atlas]

cant tell what the dex is on that helm tho ye

ive learned that forcing dex isnt that important early on but its definitely something u should pay attention to as u upgrade ur gear

[trail pumice]

the shadows helmet as 7 dex

[austere atlas]

yes

the helmet has +X to all attributes

so what is that number

[trail pumice]

that does make sense, i will use the shadows one till i get abetter drop

[austere atlas]

whats ur username i can look up ur build

[austere atlas]

wanna see something painful

[trail pumice]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/kruda/character/kracked @austere atlas

[austere atlas]

liek my first week of playing this game i slammed this

[austere atlas]

yeah use the helmet with 14 DEX then

[atomic vapor]

these were my last two slams

(one I'm wearing succeeded)

I bricked 12 before that

and I had one more left

[austere atlas]

damn lol

yeah i still have yet to find another blood roost lp1

[atomic vapor]

I've been hunting for perfect 2lps for like a week, same as the boots now

[austere atlas]

i have a habit of slamming things that are suboptimal if i know i can find optimal without much hassle lol

[austere atlas]

yeah like personally idgaf if my 1LP slam is bad if the implicits arent BIS

[atomic vapor]

I'm the opposite, I see no reason at this point to slam something with bad rolls

ocd issues

obviously wouldn't care if it was a 4lp

[austere atlas]

like this isnt a +4+4+4 so im slamming this instead of crit multi

[atomic vapor]

but at 2lp I'm minmaxing this thing

[austere atlas]

honestly for the boots and gloves i would minmax it yeah

its just cuz some stuff has better droprates than others

[atomic vapor]

that's why im saying if it was a giga drop of a rare item

it's not realistic to minmax

[austere atlas]

yeah

[atomic vapor]

like if I got a 3lp null portent with 16 health

I'd slam that thing without thinking twice

[austere atlas]

yeah the rule i follow is if its my first time having that LP

and its not completely unusable, which only happens for stuff like nihilis lol

then slam it

and find a better one after

[atomic vapor]

if I manage to finish my rogue early enough

I'm building a lich

stygian coal gaming dot com

[austere atlas]

what are u trying to finish?

is it like a gear thing or corruption milestone

[atomic vapor]

Idk if I'll push i just want ok gear

3-4lp jungle, 4lp helm, 3lp on the other dagger

it should be very doable soon

i also got this that I'm dying to hit the slam

I know I'll brick it but a man can dream

[austere atlas]

oh thats a great 2lp wow

[atomic vapor]

I try not to get too attached lol

[austere atlas]

honestly if u get throwing, dex, hp, hp the bricks arent that bad at all

even armor shred, elemental resist arent bad either itll help u not want to die when u miss the 1/3 lol

[atomic vapor]

I have a belt for safety for mapping already, I want a pure dps one now

this is my turn brain off and grind belt

and I also wanna slam this one but I am not getting three exalted stats in lol

[austere atlas]

i find the queens belt more effective honestly

[atomic vapor]

it is, but hey I looted it so why not

[austere atlas]

brewers is definitely the 2nd BIS tho for sure

[austere atlas]

hey u might

do u have a triple 7lp imprint?

[atomic vapor]

I have a quad exalt on my friend's tree

(and like 20 obsidian resonances so we're good lol)

it's the slam that's the problem

[austere atlas]

lmao

its like a 2/3 to hit the throwing dmg yeah?

[atomic vapor]

2/3 for each individual stat yeah

[austere atlas]

id assume bis is throwing cooldown and %hp

[atomic vapor]

I'd be chilling with just % hp, I'll take it

[austere atlas]

and then hybrid hp for the brick

yeah like if u get cooldown and double hp its hella usable its ur brain off item

lowkey its better

[atomic vapor]

i think with double health

it's about 4k

[austere atlas]

yeah

its huge

[atomic vapor]

my mapping gear is already sitting at 3.5k and I don't remember the last time I died

[austere atlas]

can i see ur build? i want to map to 2k soon

right now i can die from a crit

[undone dune]

yeah thats how blind builds work

you just need to not get crit

[small meteor]

i feel like any rogue build can easily get to 2k. just kill things as soon as u see them its not like you dont have the damage

[blissful sun]

Can anyone recommend a loot filter for umbral baldes end game. Been using maxroll and planning to switch to dagger version

[lost knot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/rBrXmqZA i used this as a base and added to it.

[blissful sun]

Ty

[austere atlas]

yeah exlated quivers have not been nice to me lu

[wild harbor]

its damage is kinda mid but something does feel good about playing chakram

mostly the act of like syncronized striking into shurikening

[wild harbor]

oh ye and since they gutted aerial assault mechanics being able to glitch out of bounds i think my new favorite movement skill is probably either smoke bomb or runic invocation

[mossy nexus]

Is there any viable detonating arrow build that can push decent corruption this patch? Thinking about trying the mana stacking version and convert it to fire with cinder strike and heartseeker as buff skills.

[wild harbor]

i mean i think the explosive trap version still exists ... its just worse than last season

[atomic vapor]

I posted my le tools above somewhere, feel free to scroll

[manic apex]

can any kind soul help me take a look at my build and see whats wrong? i barely take 20% of uberroth before he slams

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qd95MgpB

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (7) / Falconer (70)

General:

▸ Health: 2,714, Regen: 45.36/s
▸ Mana: 222.5, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 36%, Regen: 1/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 180 Dex / 18 Int / 18 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 97% / 86% / 80% / 94% / 104% / 86% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 543
▸ Dodge Chance: 45% (1654)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,002)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 34%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Umbral Blades / Aerial Assault / Smoke Bomb / Dive Bomb / Falconry

[wild harbor]

i keep thinking fulgurite shard is 81 lel

[atomic vapor]

I'm at work so I didn't take a detailed look but you're playing dusk shroud umbrals right? You don't have the correct idols in that case. Sorry if I'm wrong I'm bouncing between being busy and checking this

[manic apex]

i see, i do have the duskshroud idols but im stacking hp because my hp is so low

let me try switch it up and test again

[vernal zealot]

How many dusk shrouds can you build with dual daggers?

[wild harbor]

depends

[vernal zealot]

Ramped on uber abby for eg

[prisma marlin]

4 LP with crap rolls ><

[simple kestrel]

F

[noble hull]

which one is best?

[flint turret]

I would assume it's for mourningfrost hs? If you are fully utilizing 38% necro res, probably the first one, because armor shred is useless anyway

[noble hull]

i am capped even if i dont have 38% necrotic res

[flint turret]

Then the right one

[noble hull]

I really wasnt sure, but feel like i lose dmg when taking the right one

because of the 21% diff in cold dmg

idk tho

[flint turret]

You don't

8 dex is 24% damage

And 8 flat

[noble hull]

thats true, dunno if i am to trust the numbers on the game tho, but when i hover over the spell it shows dmg decrease?

can i trust that or?

[flint turret]

Not really, tooltips lie all the time

[noble hull]

ait man, ty for the help 🙏

[steady lark]

what are some of the best builds right now? like most fun / crazy?

i had a heartseeker

[flint turret]

The best way you can measure your DPS is to clock down the dummy % hp loss

[noble hull]

Aaah i see

[flint turret]

But the difference from 1 item with similar stats is negligible tbh

[noble hull]

Fair enough, thank you for the help man, appreciate it

[flint turret]

Dancing strikes or lm maybe? If you are a fan of combo playstyle

[prisma marlin]

Im doing this right now. SPAM folly + cemetery of reweaving. Get about 150-180k amber. buy about 40 (140k amber) unclaimed troves and buy a few folly and cemetery of reweaving, then dump the rest of favor on conquered towers. Clear all the troves and make sure they are buffed by a folly, you'll have about ~100k amber, spend on about 50 conquered towers. Empower all 0 LP unique in nemesis egg and use farsight turtle, gauntlet of strife, and wardens watch to boost stats.

[prisma marlin]

use false temple to connect

[vernal zealot]

Ive swapped back to doing folley/temples and then between the lines putting sepchulre of the lost

[prisma marlin]

Is the sepelcher bugged right now I never see any imprinting procs from the caches at the end

[static kestrel]

Does "Melee" mean that, lets say, flat melee lightning damage adds to it?

[flint turret]

Yes

[vernal zealot]

I had 2 red rings in the past few days from it

[prisma marlin]

I’ll have to experiment with them more, but my filters have never picked up anything from Sepelcher caches

[noble hull]

What would people say i should choose here?

pearls? or nihilis - playing RoW Heartseeker

[trail pumice]

first run today, and first drop! Not bet ter than last nights

[prisma marlin]

Any chance you know how much amber you get from a sepulcher? 40 troves with folly buff and 1 cemetery reweaving sprinkled in is about 100k amber

[vernal zealot]

Not much, tyoically i have been building 2 lines of folley/troves and then having a line of tempke of lost to break it up

Like this anyway

I messed up the right hand side a little bit it always sustains

[noble hull]

anyone got any input into what is best here?

Maybe this is a better comparison

[flint turret]

Doesn't matter really. The only big difference is frenzy on evade if you don't have other frenzy sources

1lp nihilis will be better ofc

[noble hull]

what if it isn't 1 lp?

do i just keep pearlsw on or?=

[flint turret]

doesnt matter. if you need res from swine go for swine, if you dont, go for nihilis

42% multi is comparable to +2 skills and frenzy

[noble hull]

so my choice doesn't really matter in terms of dps?

[flint turret]

if you already have a way to upkeep frenzy then swine is probably better dps, but it also depends on how much multi you already have

[noble hull]

i can show you my % rn?

not really at the amount it should be

[flint turret]

is it buffed or unbuffed?

i mean perfect aim

[noble hull]

that is unbuffed

buffed is around 410%

[flint turret]

its pretty high for hs

[noble hull]

got 30% cold pen

this is what is holding me back tho

yeah and the fact that i am not sure what to pick on the necks

[flint turret]

i dont really see an issue with replacing it to 1lp mountain\wall\null

[noble hull]

just slam it on thuis

?

[flint turret]

slam t7 heartseeker on that

use havocs to get t7

[noble hull]

good ways to farm runes of havoc?

got 0 rn

[flint turret]

mg or cof?

[noble hull]

cof

prophecies?

[flint turret]

prophesies for generic runes

[noble hull]

totally forgot i could even do that smh

[flint turret]

dunno why they didnt add prophesies for new runes but at least you can get them with generic runes prophesies

will take a lot of rerolls tho

[noble hull]

back to the question of nihlis

i have no other frenzy sources

than if i equip nihilis

[flint turret]

Then nihilis is probably better dps

[noble hull]

bro

this dropped

ty

time to slam

286% multi now

what should the skilltree for RoW exactly look like tho, cuz ive seen multiple talent trees but i dont know the best one yet?=

[thin quartz]

how come you dont have any other source of frenzy? puncture not giving you frenzy?

[noble hull]

nvm i do, actually thickheaded :/

mb

[flint turret]

No one does, that's why there are so many. Depends on purpose and preference

[noble hull]

mine looks like this

[flint turret]

Looks okay. I would recommend capping crit without flat crit nodes in hs tho

Because they don't affect proc crit rate

[noble hull]

which one i s that, top left corner?

[flint turret]

Yes

[noble hull]

like this

[flint turret]

Like 0/3

[undone dune]

they did add a prophecy for runes of weaving, it seems they left out havocs on purpose

[noble hull]

what should the 3 points be to then? 🙂

[flint turret]

I know and it doesn't make much sense

[undone dune]

tbh it feels like a bug that you can get havocs to drop from prophecies that trigger inside maps that have tombs on them

becuase they wont drop if they trigger outside of monos

[flint turret]

Best DPS would be shadow consume to shoot hs, but you will need a way to create shadows. Best defence would be dusk shrouds on recurve

[undone dune]

i cant explain why the devs did it though

[flint turret]

They do

[undone dune]

really?

[flint turret]

Yes

[undone dune]

i was told a tomb needed to exist

[flint turret]

Anywhere

[undone dune]

for them to drop

[flint turret]

On bosses, whatever

[undone dune]

because they [havocs] dont appear to be on the global loot table

[flint turret]

I'm pretty sure they do because you can also get them in arbor

[noble hull]

is it this one?

[undone dune]

yeah they appear in arbor chests too

[flint turret]

Yes

[noble hull]

but what is the way to create shadows

[undone dune]

smokebomb/ dark arrow

[flint turret]

Smoke, black arrows

[noble hull]

so spec black arrows ?

[flint turret]

If you want to )

[noble hull]

i am specced into this rn

[flint turret]

There are plenty of hs builds out there and all of them work pretty well

[undone dune]

im not a huge fan of shift+shuriken TBH its decent armor but i just like using smokebomb as my movement skill

[flint turret]

I personally prefer traversal smoke + umbral blades instead of shift+bladeshield

And I prefer to convert hs to fire with row for better clear with puncture and icicles

But it won't work well for you because you are already stacking cold res for pen

[noble hull]

yeah

das the thing

[flint turret]

I wouldn't stack cold res unless with shackles for ward retention

[noble hull]

so dont stack cold pen?

and change the tree`?

[flint turret]

There is no single correct answer

Try and see what's working better for you

[noble hull]

found this guy clearing 1k Corruption with the tree i showed you, and I figured thats what everyone's usijng

rn i am at 500 c clearing comfortably

[flint turret]

I'm pretty sure all of hs builds are 1k capable

[noble hull]

ait

[flint turret]

If I had to guess I'd bet most don't stack cold res tho

Because if you want cold pen you can just get it on idols

Without investing hs points in it

[noble hull]

yeah i got that too i got 29% cold pen with cold res stack

[flint turret]

Like that's the point to spend points in hs and use cold res suffixes if you can just use cold pen idols prefixes and life % on gear suffixes

At the end of the day you are trading %hp affixes for pen anyway

The only difference is that you don't spend points in hs

But if you are going all in on DPS and building a glass cannon it's a different story. In this case it makes a perfect sense to use both

[noble hull]

ya i see

but do i spec into black arrows to get shadows?

[flint turret]

Or if you are using cold res for ward retention too, like I said earlier

[noble hull]

yeah

[flint turret]

Only black arrows won't be enough for 3/3 shadow consume

[noble hull]

what do i do then?

[flint turret]

Smoke+black arrows if you want to go 3/3

[noble hull]

you got a tree for black arrows?

[flint turret]

Do you know how to use letools? You can import ragulol/ ragulmark

It has one of the variants of it

The other would be to get crimson shrouds on pickup

[noble hull]

letools? what is that?

[flint turret]

Oh well

i guess we go the longer way

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

you can import your build and save or use it to make a planner yourself

or you can import someone else build if you know acc name and character name

[noble hull]

is dex the best in terms of putting on boots?

like you have on the planner?

[flint turret]

it all depends on purpose, there is no single right answer

for dps yes, dex is best

[silver agate]

heya fellow bladedancers.
How much mana regen do you usually have?
Id love to play combo 4shadow synchronized strike + shadow cascade, but i have to stop and let my mana regen every 2 groups xD

[noble hull]

alrighty

[flint turret]

it might as well be t7 hybrid or t7 cdr or t7 movement depending on what you want to do with it

i used this for uber abby where i dont need movement speed

[silver agate]

also does mana regen only affect this bade 8mana/sec regen, or also other mana gains?

[noble hull]

true that

[flint turret]

4 common ways to get mana for bd are getting mana regen on gear, using low life setup for mana gain on shift, or mana+mana regen on potion use on belt, or use a skill with sapping strikes to gain mana (usually puncture)
Also mana gain on shadow consume in cascade and mana on recall umbrals

[silver agate]

Hmmm sapping strikes might be the easiest to implement without re-doing whole equipment, because if i change something, i need to change a lot more xdd
Right now i use all those skills, but i guess i could let go of lethal mirage, since 4 shadows from synchronized strike makes me hit boss with 5 cascades at the same time, and maybe even for more damage

[flint turret]

if your main skill is cascade you definetly dont need LM specced

the only thing it does is gives you 1.5s invulnerability and that will be the same if its unspecced

[silver agate]

I mainly used it for single target on hard bosses, i waited till i accumulated 5 shadows and bonus from standing in smoke bomb, and then the damage was massive

but i can live with just hitting boss with 5 interconnecting cascades 😄

If i was to respec LM purely to generate mana, then, as you said, puncture is better right? Because it has this perk with 150% speed every 4 seconds

flurry would do more damage, but if i can generate enough mana, i dont need to use it for damage

[flint turret]

and it also has +4 mana on hit in its tree

[silver agate]

Puncture it is then!

Thank you 😄

[flint turret]

flurry works as mana generator too

[silver agate]

Also might try to get some mana cost reduction for synchronized strike, right now its 76 mana which is super bad for longer fights

[flint turret]

if you prefer that

[flint turret]

why is it so high

you are using inward jump?

[silver agate]

+10 mana because i want inward jump, so for boss all shadow cascades from shadows hit him, and then x2 mana to get 4 shadows

[flint turret]

remove inward

cascades will styill hit they have huge aoe