#🔪┃rogue

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tough viper
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wuuuuuut isnt that like super wasteful?

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alright

undone dune
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you can also sell your soulfire bastion keys for more portal charms

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that dungeon is useless

ivory sentinel
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on that item its worth it, its very common and always can farm in dungeon, you get more keys/charms than you can use

tough viper
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why is that dungeon useless?

undone dune
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because ember gambling has awful odds and you might not even be able to buy a single one of the item type you want

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because of the way that vendor works

ivory sentinel
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and cos Soul foundry echo exists if you need gamblng unqiues

undone dune
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and unlike the others you cant use portal charms to skip it

atomic vapor
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Which is also horrid btw

ivory sentinel
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you can!

undone dune
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because you need to kill trash in the dungeon to get the souls

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well you could

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but you coldn't gamble if you did

ivory sentinel
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huh?

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oh

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oh like you dont get much currency to gamble?

undone dune
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i guess if you needed a boss drop from there

undone dune
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normal clear is like 300

ivory sentinel
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but yeah bastion is so far useless I agree

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did it once to skip on new char

undone dune
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i dont even use soulfire in the campaign skip

tough viper
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i did get a red ring from that dungeon tho XD about 3 days ago... cos of the COF prophecy..

undone dune
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i just do it laiter as a shortcut to the target dummys

ivory sentinel
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to get arena waypoint* to be exact

tough viper
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pureluck XD

atomic vapor
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Never skipped story personally

ivory sentinel
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I think temporal is what I skipped for progress

undone dune
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you should

vernal cedar
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So like whats the best build overall for both echos and uber

undone dune
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i havn't killed campaign lagon since 0.9

atomic vapor
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I'm gonna be honest

undone dune
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unless you mean rogue build

vernal cedar
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I mean with rogue

atomic vapor
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I dislike the dungeons more than story

vernal cedar
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I dont wanna do VK anymore

undone dune
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in which case idk

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probably some umbral blades thing that hasn't fully cooked

atomic vapor
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If you want build diversity, you've picked the wrong season lol

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Meta has more or less settled

undone dune
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the divebomb build is really good untill like 1k corruption then gets very expensive if you want to push becuase you cant get tanky stats without hitting risky slams on high LP gear

vernal cedar
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Well its either gonna be sync strike or UB right

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lol

atomic vapor
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If you don't care about pushing very high corruption, most popular builds will help you farm anything consistently

undone dune
atomic vapor
vernal cedar
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Just trying to figure out exactly which one i should be shotting for

undone dune
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or a bboc build that you would never hit the 1lp slam on julra's ring for

atomic vapor
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Normal abby kills weren't even that slow

vernal cedar
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So sync strike can still do uber fast?

undone dune
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yes

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thats what sync strike does

vernal cedar
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Im just running Juses build

atomic vapor
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Depends on your standards but yeah

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If you want an instant kill no

vernal cedar
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Except dont have gear

atomic vapor
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If you're ok with 1-2mins yes

vernal cedar
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Is the maxroll umbral blade guide good and reasonable? I know sometimes people meme on maxroll

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depending on the class

atomic vapor
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maxroll has some very good bulds

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Falconer isn't one of those

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Let's put it that way

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Just use juse's sync

raw lava
undone dune
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yup

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i started last night but i guess i missed idols xdd

raw lava
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Its easy 40+ shrouds at all times I'm not sure why noones done it yet

undone dune
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back to the drawing board

atomic vapor
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I still don't think there will be much further minmaxing. The premise is very very clear

undone dune
atomic vapor
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Hoping im wrong ofc

raw lava
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Yaaa i was running w/o smoke bomb and just black arrow talented with daggers

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Was able to hold a consistant 30

vernal cedar
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I was talking to kezic about this yesterday but Im dying like crazy on Juses sync build

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at 1k corruption

undone dune
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your gear is just kind of meh

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low on dex, low on cdr

vernal cedar
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Yea

undone dune
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i dont really see the value in farming 1k corruption if you die that much

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just go down to 700 to farm smoothly till you have gear

raw lava
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ya if ur dying/its slowing you down just drop it down

vernal cedar
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Im probably going to do that

undone dune
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the difference in drops isn't noticeable

atomic vapor
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Just use the brew belt over the jungle belt for mapping if you're dying

raw lava
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I know I started dropping down to 800 because i prefer to use AA as a movement lol

undone dune
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i find smokebomb movement is fine

raw lava
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its "fine" its not nearly as fast

undone dune
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i dont like shift

atomic vapor
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Getting a 3lp brew belt to reliably slam cdr and health should take you what

undone dune
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but smokebomb feels nice

atomic vapor
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A day? Two?

raw lava
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IDK never tried to go after that belt at all

atomic vapor
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I have 4 3lp belts...

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Are you sure lol

undone dune
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nemisis cant give bukle lp

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i dont know why

raw lava
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Its guranteed drop, i assume tis not hard to farm LP w/ turtle and that always having LP it seems

undone dune
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they have to drop or turtle

atomic vapor
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Keep in mind he drops what 2-3 or whatever belts per kill

undone dune
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i have 2 stash tabs full of legendary nemesis slams on buckles

atomic vapor
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Idk

undone dune
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not a single one rolled with LP

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so its just the boss drops

raw lava
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Ya, i wouldn't nem slam buckle when its a common drop and low-mid LP value

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3lp is only like 1/300 as cof

atomic vapor
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Your brew is my peak

undone dune
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it says that

atomic vapor
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🫸🫷

undone dune
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but like i put at least 40 buckles into nemeissi and got only legendaries

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theres something off with that item

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not a single one rolled even 1lp

raw lava
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Nemesis doesn't factor LP chances on items tho its completely seperate i thought

undone dune
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yes it does

atomic vapor
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None of the ones I dropped were egged

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Natural 3lps

raw lava
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Ya, all of mine have been natural

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As I said I wouldn't egg a common boss drop unless it had super high lp chances like peak

atomic vapor
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Did I fill an entire timeline with breweries? Yes I did

raw lava
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even tho turtle prob better

undone dune
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where are you getting the WW for this

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or sorry the amber

atomic vapor
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5 reweaving 1 folly, unless there's new tech

undone dune
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idk

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im always broke and out of amber

atomic vapor
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Too much trove gaming dot com?

undone dune
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all of it goes into that stupid cemetery to try to get a decent inheritance

raw lava
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Haha, yeah im only broke when I buy troves but mostly folly+reweaving is like 30-40k an hour taking 4-5min an echo in black sun

thick zenith
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I’m always micromanaging my amber…great concept but I think amber is a bit too stingy

atomic vapor
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Guys are we playing the same game 😭I'm trying not to cap my amber here

undone dune
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i wish amber was more like favor, and i could just click on it after a week and see oh boy im rich

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instead i look after a week of play I have like 60k

raw lava
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I keep forgetting theres a favor cap D:

atomic vapor
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What sucks is that you can't spend it all in one go

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A full tab is what 500kish?

undone dune
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500k if you are picky

raw lava
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Yee if using double blocker more like 400k ish it seems

atomic vapor
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God awful

undone dune
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you can do it in 250k if you use 2x price lenses

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400k with double blocker yeah

atomic vapor
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I can't be non picky when I can easily rack up half a million in one session

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I'll cap it faster than I spend it

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I have to get the big prophecies

undone dune
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how long are your sessions

atomic vapor
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About 4 hours on a good day where work doesn't screw me over

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9-1am or something

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Depends on my mood

raw lava
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I want to be fasterrrr might just try out full dodge and slam a kestrel for haste effect

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at like 125% movement speed rn

atomic vapor
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125 not enough for you with smoke bomb traveling one screen away at less than 3 second cd? Lol

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You should be zooming like mad

raw lava
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Not mad enough 😮 lol

atomic vapor
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The sonic build

raw lava
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I really have always prefered aa for movement D: especially now that it doesnt get stuck any more haha

atomic vapor
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It goes further but I like smoke bomb more

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It feels like

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More control-y?

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If that makes sense

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Probably doesn't

undone dune
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they did fix AA movement targeting

raw lava
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Kind of does, sometimes AA feels like its pathing gets wonky

undone dune
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it was super janky for the first few weeks of this season

raw lava
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Yeah, mostly havent had it mess up on keyboard/mouse kezic

atomic vapor
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Season 1 AA was the nastiest thing any arpg ever made

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That thing jumped over to the next game on my steam list

raw lava
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Thats what got me hooked to falconer and its why im still here 2.5k hours later lol

atomic vapor
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Lmao fair fair

undone dune
raw lava
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It def was messed up on those and like 50% on controller it would still randomly target a mob at launch of s2

atomic vapor
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Iirc it has fixed distance right?

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Bet that helped

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Slower zooming tho

raw lava
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Yeah, no longer wide screening for an extra screen of aa

atomic vapor
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F for our fallen brothers

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Keep the controller for elden ring

serene rune
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How are the sync strike or new shroud umbrals builds for clearing? I don’t have any of the new idols yet and need to farm them up. Or should I just stick with the maxroll build?

atomic vapor
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Both handle 1k just fine

serene rune
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Sweet thanks

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I’m missing some defense slams so anything higher than 1k gets kinda scary

raw lava
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I need somoene to make a minmaxed shroud stacking umbral build so I can blindly follow

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😄

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lool

thick zenith
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Chadi posted his profile earlier. Not minmaxed but it looks really solid. 9m umbral damage tooltip. It’s probably very close to minmaxed

raw lava
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Ooo i'll creep on it 😄

thick zenith
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For traitors I would just follow Chadi. I am going to build a talon version when I get in front of a pc and ill post here

foggy rapids
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These gloves do not exist - at least not at level 140 corruption or below. I've tried in the Ending the Storm timeline as maxroll suggests. I've tried via Gaspar. I've run with prophecies (since I'm CoF). I have had hundreds of gloves drop but none of these. I've checked each time, in case the filter was blocking them but nope, all good there. What is the deal getting these gloves. They feel rarer than red rings (which I've yet to farm either ...)
Also - is the only way to get exalted items to slam on uniques in Sanctum via prophecies because absolutely nothing is dropping. Still using rare rings and armour (+ to Heartseeker doesn't exist either).

thick zenith
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Exalted items aren’t dropping?

undone dune
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up to like 4.5% chance (9% cof) at 500 corruption ro something

foggy rapids
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Where do you get that info from. Maxroll and lastepochtools don't list a corruption level requirement (or maybe lastepochtools does and I missed it)

pearl forge
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just assume % caps at like 600 corruption or so

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at 140 you would have like 0.2%

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or so

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gl my man

foggy rapids
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Where do you get those numbers from. I can see the % increased with rarity. So is rarity equated to corruption level then in this case ?

wraith tide
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I got one yesterday in a 500-ish echo. No LP tho.

foggy rapids
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Seems like I'd have a better chance via Rune of Ascendency 😜 At least this explains why I've seen none. Probably a better chance of dropping a Rune from the Exiled Mages ...

wraith tide
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It does say extremely rare tho. And yeah probably rare than red ring. Maybe I should. Imprint lol!

pearl forge
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i have dropped a few to sell

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and well lets say that you can do the boss 200 times or so and not get many at 1000 corruption

foggy rapids
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I guess I'll go find some other gloves to use then. Chasing these and red rings and a Null Portent for the build seems like a fools errand under COF

pearl forge
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not really you just need to keep gaming and get to higher corru

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those are kinda endgame

raw lava
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Also frenzy and free shadows/birds arent real on the dive bomb so many things haha

foggy rapids
thick zenith
pearl forge
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yea you just began midgame

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after you finish harbingers kill normal aberroth

foggy rapids
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I did - a lot - but at the corruption level I'm at I would have better chance getting a lizards tail. At least I know why I was not seeing any drops now. I can be at peace and move on

pearl forge
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that is endgame

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so just dont try to farm things rn

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you have like 20 times or less item rarity

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than you would want

atomic vapor
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A note on the gloves

foggy rapids
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Right - I'l go complete the other 6 harbingers I have to get through. If gear drops I can use then great, otherwise as you suggest will work on chase items later. I should be able to get to level 300 corruption wiith what I have, though I'll die more often than I'd like. At least you are not penalised like in POE/POE2 for dying

atomic vapor
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Those are the ravenous voids, one of the rarest items in the game

thick zenith
atomic vapor
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It has a higher rarity than anything else in the game

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Don't expect them to drop like candy

vernal cedar
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Hmm From what im reading Umbral blades builds would kill abby at about the same speed as sync strike at this point and they are way better at echos

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so why go sync strike

raw lava
thick zenith
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And double damage

foggy rapids
thick zenith
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Probably don’t need the damage really

raw lava
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You do! But I feel like when i'm clearing/screens are dead im moving immediately out so having black arrows just dropping from falcon hits means still maintaining 40+ stacks of shroud

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with no bomb

pearl forge
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ye but thx to envy scrolls and new echoes they can drop more

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for the record i can do like 3 bosses a minute or more

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and i still have like 500 of those envy scrolls

pearl forge
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wha ti dont like about envy scrolls

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is that timelines have a limit

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i would love to just slam 1 million stability

thick zenith
pearl forge
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and just do the boss 700 times in a row

raw lava
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Yeee that would be the idea

vernal cedar
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@steel kitee how fast do you kill uber on your build

raw lava
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This is a theoretical build im playing dw traitor dive bomb rn

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post nerffix i'm at about a minute w/ putting more points in talon knives I think im at around a minute

thick zenith
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I am gonna build something for UA first I think. U build that one and we combine. Magic

atomic vapor
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Also a note on clear speed, if your goal is to farm and not set a record, and you're debating between killing Uber aberroth 20 seconds slower, you shouldn't be wasting your time doing that

raw lava
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ya, i'm all about clear speed focus rn

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I have no problem respeccing when needed to do 30 ubers or w/e

atomic vapor
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If you wanna try umbral blades, farm the idols passively while mapping, but either build destroys the game at 1k corruption

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Don't feel like you're missing out on anything

dapper nymph
thick zenith
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It’s up in the chat. I can’t scroll well. On my phone

dapper nymph
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What's the users actual handle then? It isn't "Chadi".

atomic vapor
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are you talking about chadilao?

raw lava
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account name: chadilao
char name: chadi just searched chadi in chat

dapper nymph
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I have no idea!

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thanks

atomic vapor
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Just search chadilao in LE tools

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Anyway dinner time talk later folks

hollow moss
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Btw what relic can I use if I dont have shattered world?

raw lava
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pretty sure I just used an exalted one til i had shattered but I also tried out the cold conversion set up for a while too before I got my shattered so had the uceni sphere or w/e and used bow

raw lava
thick zenith
raw lava
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Ya, in S1/1.5 i used the shred mace

hollow moss
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Thanks all

vernal cedar
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Is chadis build like the updated optimal UB build?

undone dune
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im confused how nest of nightmares is good for umbral doesn't it have specifically melee crit multi and not generic?

trail pumice
vernal cedar
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wonder how fast that would clear uber

thick zenith
raw lava
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But ya, idk he may have just not minmaxed weapons yet

undone dune
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so you just use it to cap crit chance?

raw lava
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That was my thought of it initially but I wanted to drop peak while using it

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Seems like you can crit cap with that and traitors offhand

vernal cedar
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Hmm Trying to figure out where to find his build

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Found it

spare folio
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what makes the ice version of heartseeker tankier than the fire version?

undone dune
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range

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dragonfire proc is melee

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icicles are like 3 screens range

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its not really tankier vs bosses which is why ragu actually used gathering fury instead

ocean ember
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how would UB build would look with talon bow, while not having 2x traitors daggers

thick zenith
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Need T7 crit / attack speed on Talon

spare folio
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how do you make heartseeker tankier though, even if im sitting in smoke bomb i can still die in empowered echoes

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all the builds ive seen assume you have top tier uniques like the void gloves and the aberroth body armor

atomic vapor
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56sec with sync strike and my passable gear

spare folio
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they dont say anything about how to survive before you get those uniques

raw lava
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oh i wanna watch

next gale
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whats arming time on detonating arrow ?

undone dune
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i cruised with like 2200 hp all the way to 500 corruption using a dragonsong

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its basically only dps that matters at that point

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you dont need any of the tankyness till you start pushing past that

spare folio
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (39) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (54)

General:

▸ Health: 1,470, Regen: 23.32/s
▸ Mana: 111.67, Regen: 10.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 8%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 47 Dex / 4 Int / 4 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 108% / 76% / 90% / 86% / 84% / 120% / 119%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 294
▸ Dodge Chance: 25% (785)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 14% (344)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 34%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 106%

raw lava
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Okay so im confused skills that dont scale with attack speed directly still scale with frenzy's buff?

undone dune
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you need a 1lp dragonsong with t7 crit hybrid

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thats like the #1 most important part

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then you just need to get a lot more dex

raw lava
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Even synch strikes animation seems to speed up w/ frenzy effect

spare folio
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the crit hybrid isnt dropping though

atomic vapor
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I wonder if I can get close to 30 seconds with giga gear and with non L gameplay

undone dune
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use havocs

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make a lootiflter rule for every bow with a t7 mod and an open prefix, and another rule for every bow with a t7 mod and crit hybrid

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and just havoc those till you get a 1mod t7

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to start

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you can drop frailty on neck and get useful mods like crit multi and fire pen, a single idol with health+frailty is enough to max it out HS hits a ton

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your gloves are kinda worthless

pearl forge
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so it goes faster with frenzy

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only things like dancing strikes or cascade with the node dont scale with as

spare folio
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are you talking about the "deadeye" mod

undone dune
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yeah

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crit chance and bow attackspeed

spare folio
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its really hard to get the fire version of pearls of the swine to drop though

undone dune
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you dont need that

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swine is mostly to fix stats for red ring

spare folio
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and i cant find good gloves, i keep getting exalted ones with minion affixes and other junk on it

undone dune
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you can just use any exalted neck

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you are over capped on res anyway

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and dont have null to use that yet

raw lava
spare folio
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i thought pearls of the swine was used for resists

undone dune
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your lowest resist is 96%

spare folio
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more like 76% actually and i have to use a lot of idols for resists :(

undone dune
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okay then the planner you linked is slightly off

pearl forge
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maybe it is set to max

undone dune
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if you link the actual character its easier

pearl forge
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instead of medium

spare folio
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did you click the "actual" tab?

undone dune
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the planner you linked isn't even verified

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there is no actual tab

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it is on max yeah, but there is no checkmark in the top right

spare folio
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not sure what checkmark you are looking for

undone dune
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that one

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next to the questionmark in the top right

spare folio
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whats that for?

undone dune
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to let people who arn't you use the actual tab

spare folio
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i dont see any checkmark box for me to tick though, strange

undone dune
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yeah idk how LET works

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i think its an account thing

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but it doesn't really matter for your gear level

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you have a ton of stuff that can be replaced

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oh also get yourself a peak of the mountain as soon as you get crit on your bow

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its super easy to get 1 or 2l p

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and get dex and health

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or maybe dex and crit avoidance

spare folio
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when does tier 3 dungeon unlock? or do i need to do tier 2 first?

undone dune
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peak drops in tier 1

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but you need to do t2 first

spare folio
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i keep finding exalted gloves like this

undone dune
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I feel like rare gloves with dex and health are better than your gloves

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unless you really value swiftness for some reason

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gloves can have hybrid health suffix even

spare folio
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someone told me i need 2k hp before doig empowered but that seems hard to get...

ivory sentinel
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try empowered and see how it goes

undone dune
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get health and dex on gloves, swap your black sun blessing to void res, and use more health idols

ivory sentinel
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empowered has better blessings (min roll is better than top roll normal), you will manage

undone dune
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you will be over 2k hp

spare folio
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i tried empowered and kept dying when fighting some enemies

ivory sentinel
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if you feel like its too much can always go back

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but if you can handle it you will get stronger with better blessigns, better items and exp gains

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its like a snowball effect

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okay then 😦

undone dune
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i feel like 100 corruption is doable with your gear

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but you would have to go slow

spare folio
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its not consistent, like i killed a whole bunch of exiled mages then died to another one, not sure why

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everything happens too fast for me to see

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and i dont have good reflexes either

undone dune
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ohhh

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i just noticed your skill tree

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swap it to this

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the burning daggers really arn't worth it

spare folio
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hmm, but i cant convert puncture to fire right? that seems like a huge downside

undone dune
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doesn't matter

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this isnt' even really a fire build long term

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once you get decent gear it does more cold than fire

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even with dragonsong

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also i prefer smokebomb as a movement skill to shift especially if you arn't using shift to scale armor (with shurikens)

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and im not 100% sure what you are using hail of arrows for

atomic vapor
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I'll be honest, the +armor for an entire skill slot feels so horrible for marksman

spare folio
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it applies armor shred, fraility, crit vulnerability and dusk shroud

undone dune
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heartseeker also does all of those though

thick zenith
atomic vapor
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yeah it's redundant

atomic vapor
undone dune
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I think i have seen a pure hail of arrows build that uses HS as mana battery

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im not 100% sure how it works

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but my build advice so far was for a more HS focused build

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because thats much more effective at low gear

thick zenith
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Flat phys, attack speed, or multi for UB Bow (Talon)?

undone dune
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on the bow?

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only multi would affect UB

thick zenith
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The flat phys wouldn’t?

undone dune
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no

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bows can only have bow physical damage

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and UB is throwing not bow

raw lava
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Crit chance applies

undone dune
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i assume he has crit as his other prefix

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%increased phys would work

raw lava
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ah

thick zenith
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Oh dang ur right

undone dune
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but that is increased not flat

raw lava
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yeee

undone dune
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and crit multi is way more effecient than increased becuase its a more multiplier and increased damage will be addative with duskshroud stacks

thick zenith
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Dang so now attack speed wouldn’t increase UB either?

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Multi it is

undone dune
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you dont attack

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the falcon throws them for you

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and if you did attack, you would need throwing attackspeed not bow attackspeed

tough tiger
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So what is bow good for then

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Over dagger

undone dune
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it reduces the CD on AA when you crit

static kestrel
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (35) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (60) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,003, Regen: 44.25/s
▸ Mana: 160.66, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 108%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 39 Dex / 1 Int / 11 Att / 48 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 211% / 54% / 108% / 86% / 116% / 126%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 701
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (625)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (952)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (40) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (65)

General:

▸ Health: 2,499, Regen: 43.52/s
▸ Mana: 175.96, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 131%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 126 Dex / 9 Int / 21 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 146% / 100% / 92% / 117% / 92% / 97%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 500
▸ Dodge Chance: 63% (2872)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,148)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 106%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

small glen
#

I see lots of setups people post here with over 200% resists. Try to get them as close as possible to 75 to realocate the extra slots with something else useful

serene rune
#

is there any secret to getting the pure umbral build to ramp faster?

spare folio
#

whats the most important thing to craft on peak of the mountain for a heartseeker build?

atomic vapor
#

just wanted to show the tech I'm using (nothing new, just improvement over what's already out there imo)

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I add a sepulcher in between two nodes (idk if the rewards of it were fixed for imprints but I figured what the hell)

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otherwise it's 3 reweaving 2 troves

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I don't seem to be dropping in amber count personally

smoky granite
#

any help on how to regen mana using ballistas? i just run out so fast

atomic vapor
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yes, the sepulcher spawns 5 chests inside even if the surrounding maps don't have "echo rewards" (aka reweaving)

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you can add a sixth low cost map on the empty node if you want, like all those "a reward for a great acolyte" or whatever that nobody uses if you want 6 chests inside (which I should do at some point tbh)

ocean ember
#

what should be my prio on traitors slam?

thick zenith
#

Depends on the build

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Probably flat and phys pen

ocean ember
#

I am playing UB and runing with bow atm

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got my 2 daggers

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flat phys + phys pen?

thick zenith
#

Any flat

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Fire/light/cold/phys

ocean ember
#

thanks

bronze mantle
#

Why is there a marksman passive to proc "rain" of arrows? Is that the only occurrence of that "skill"? Would be neat if it were "hail" of arrows so the passive would actually be worth something.

austere beacon
#

How do i play the umbral blades build

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Is there a skill rotation or can i press all the skills at once

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Im confused

covert elm
#

you press all the buttons at once all the time while you are trying to deal damage 🙂

thick zenith
covert elm
#

if you really want to optimize, I am sure there is a proper order... but in all reality it does not matter

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the only real consideration is where you are placing your smokes, since they also add to the dps you to

atomic vapor
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a skill rotation in MY arpg???

thick zenith
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UB / DB should be doing enough DPS to kill almost everything while mapping. AA when you need nukes

static kestrel
#

Should I take that double t7 attr or roll further?

tough tiger
#

whats the point of bow stats on umbral blade? like what does bow attack speed do

small meteor
#

wat

tough tiger
#

bow atk speed

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wat do

small meteor
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make u attack faster?

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what are u asking man

tough tiger
#

do you know the umbral blade build?

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do you understand "bow" tags on skills?

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generic "make u attack faster" is an answer that tells me you don't know much

stiff kite
#

I can imagine it being there because of a specific node on falcon. However, I do not know the build you are going for. Not providing info and saying someone "doesn't know much" when they don't answer your question is plain rude.

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Ah, well, I looked at falconry again and it says "highest" among throwing, bow and melee on the node I was thinking of. Must be another reason if you're following a guide.

tough tiger
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see you know what you're talking about

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he was rude first - but whatever

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turns out yeah it was the build I was looking at, the fire traps get converted to bow type. So that's why attack speed is useful there!

small meteor
#

my friend. you follow a build guide. saying i dont know much.
you work your question horribly with no context maybe you cant speak english.
I was never rude, why would I be rude to someone clearly less intelligent than me

tough tiger
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its ok

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misunderstanding, we good. no hard feelings

stiff kite
#

Damn, there goes escalation my man

tough tiger
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on the internet? crazy right

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rarely happens lmao

stiff kite
#

Seeing mention of explosive traps immediately makes me want to go back to playing my favorite rogue build - int stacking explosive trap/flask (+ staff for fire pen). So fun.

small meteor
stiff kite
#

I have seen people do melee detonating arrow + explosive traps. Is your build a similar idea?

small meteor
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yes thats what i have

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better is bow because ur kinda squishy

stiff kite
#

Yeah that is an awesome build

small meteor
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but if you go melee you can go full ward build and never die

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ghost maker dagger i think its called gives you ward on kill. youd be stacking 10k ward easily

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ranged is better for uber. but i am farming him on melee so both are fine

stiff kite
#

oh, interesting, I never thought to do that.

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On the pile of builds to play it goes. T-T

small meteor
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+its really off meta now. so if you play MG you can easily buy the daggers needed for it 3lp or more for cheap

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and fyi you can either run double jelkors or 1 jel and 1 ghost maker

stiff kite
#

Exactly what I was thinking

austere atlas
#

is this useful at all on any build just curious

daring yew
#

Rerroling a different 3lp talons

austere atlas
small glen
#

Does this effect have a limit? I'm at 140 dex. Will it really create 7 blades?

thick zenith
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No limit. Razorfall busted

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That + midnight aviary + featherfall were the primary reasons rogue was so busted and had the bug fix. Plus all the cooldown shenanigans

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3LP traitor with +1 dex = pain

lapis eagle
#

Did I win chat?

thick zenith
#

Damn. Nice

austere atlas
#

thoughts on gaining dusk shroud on melee attack that hits on null potent

vernal cedar
#

So do I need to put aerial assault on a particular part of the action bar

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or something?

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Or is it a differnet skill

thick zenith
austere atlas
sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (10) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (59)

General:

▸ Health: 2,538, Regen: 46.8/s
▸ Mana: 239.51, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 52%, Regen: 13/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 234 Dex / 26 Int / 26 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 80% / 80% / 91% / 171% / 98% / 103%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 508
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2747)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,135)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 16%

austere atlas
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i kind of neglected it since i threw red ring in there

vernal cedar
#

Anyone know abou that?

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Does the order of your skills matter for rogue on the bar?

austere atlas
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dive bomb and falconry dont proc this so u cant have either on slot 1

vernal cedar
#

what about having smoke bomb on slot 1

vernal cedar
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Does smoke bomb being on slot 1 mess it up?

thick zenith
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Mess what up?

vernal cedar
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The coordinated fate thing

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am i missing out on something if I put smoke bomb on slot 1

thick zenith
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Ur missing out on having it in slot 2

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Or 3 for that matter

vernal cedar
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wait what

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lol

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Does having smoke bomb in slot 1 proc coordinated fate?

thick zenith
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You could have it in slot 4, but then it wouldn’t be in slot 3 so yeah. It’s tough

vernal cedar
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...

thick zenith
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What’s a way you could test this in game?

austere atlas
austere atlas
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itll be super obvious ingame

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it should give it

rough echo
#

whats the boss kill build now?

honest mirage
#

Anyone know how chronostasis interacts with extra shadows? Will it chunk Ward even more or do they gain benefit from it without eating ward? Sincerely a sentinel player trying to cook their own build off a handful of drops

spare folio
#

whats the most important thing to craft onto peak of the mountain for a heartseeker build

austere atlas
#

is this thing useful

spare folio
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as a leveling item at least

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but if you are doing fire heartseeker you want dragonsong

austere atlas
#

damn it its useless

north rampart
#

is inheritance better than nihilis if you dont have shattered ?

tough viper
#

got a 4lp helm from the challenge dude, it actually happened

prisma marlin
rose apex
tough tiger
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Thats a lot of armor shred

rose apex
#

yeah still searching for a good double t7 for my lp3 daggers sitting on my storage

thick zenith
rose apex
tough tiger
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This is stacks not % chance

atomic vapor
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marksmen in shambles

mossy nexus
#

which stat should i craft on 1lp bbc for shadow daggers lethal mirage?

pearl forge
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no idea dont like that one but there should be a guide somewhere

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likely flat dmg

small glen
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The Maxroll standard Umbral guide tells to prio armor over dodge for defensive. Is that correct? I'm in doubt on the blessing I take, between dodge rating and 200+ armor.

undone dune
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depends what content you are doing
i find armor tends to be nice in lower corruptions where it actually keeps you alive, especially combined with shift+shuriken to give you a ton of armor, but at high corruption i prefer dodge

dull sequoia
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guys i got question cuz im trying to see what build i should commit to i have the this bot and quiver and i also have these daggers

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I dont know what to spec the last spell should it be syncronise , unbrall blade, or traps?

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im currently trying to kill uber aberoth

undone dune
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that talons confuses me

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i dont understand what its good for

dull sequoia
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it was a drop from the nemesis

undone dune
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ok well thats fair i guess

#

i would recomend daggers if those are your options

dull sequoia
sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,331, Regen: 44.98/s
▸ Mana: 221.79, Regen: 13.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 144 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 82% / 82% / 67% / 67% / 65% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 22%, Threshold: 266
▸ Dodge Chance: 47% (1607)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (546)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 17%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 17%

undone dune
#

ucenui's isn't really doing much for you unless you run umbrals (with cold convert)

dull sequoia
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with the daggers should i put ubral cold conversion or?

undone dune
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but i use synch strike not traps

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or umbral

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i just think the relic isn't doing much for you

dull sequoia
#

what should i try to swap it to

undone dune
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you can just use an exalted till you get shattered world

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with t7 dex + t5(+) throwing

dull sequoia
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that should be alright also quick question for my passives because i see a lot of different passive trees is there one that is better than the other or is it player based

undone dune
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your tree looks fine

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im not sure why you have the bleedpoison on falcon hit node

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but other than that everything seems fine

dull sequoia
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i did a small change leme see if its updated in last epoch tools i still have nodes that i didnt put points into

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i put this one on instead of the ucui (i should swap out the ubrals to sync right)

rapid sinew
#

Game does not want me to get salt the wound so I can play bleed heartseeker

rare haven
#

jesus and i thought auroras time glass and a low drop rate that thing is abysmal chance

austere atlas
#

im just running a makeshift build for mid tier corruption anyways might as well screw it up some more

undone dune
#

oh true i forgot bow is basically 9% less damage taken

austere atlas
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yea

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and the thing with dagger is its so easy imo to get crit chance

#

not sure why

undone dune
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you get 13% crit with traitors in offhand?

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vs only 10% with the bow mod

austere atlas
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oh right

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the only thing i like about bow and quiver is

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the unique quiv vers suck u can slam 4 amazing stats on purple quiver

undone dune
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I was messing around with UA today, i couldn't get above like 70 or 80 dusk shrouds

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easy 140 on a target dummy

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but in pratice only 70 or 80

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took like 90 ish seconds to kill him on my best attempt

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with mostly umbral blades damage

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but it felt sooo smooth because i was at cappe dodge chance the entire time

austere atlas
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yeah thats hella smooth

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thats the tankiest u can get

#

in high corruption

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wanna see my build it looks so bad on paper i think

undone dune
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well if you are constantly moving around you cant really get dusk srhouds that high

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maybe with phase point?

austere atlas
undone dune
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what are you melee hitting with

austere atlas
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i mean u could also throw the %HP away and go for it if ur in high corruption

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dive bomb is tagged as melee hit

undone dune
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only if you take birds arn't real

austere atlas
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and so is falcon strike

undone dune
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actually i think they changed it

austere atlas
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but idk if it actually would work with it

undone dune
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those are minion melee hits not melee hits

austere atlas
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ahh

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ill try it anyways and see how it is

undone dune
#

i kind if wish I understood how birds arn't real worked before

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it actually sounds kind of intersting

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to use divebomb with your own stats instead of the birds

austere atlas
#

wait bird arent real makes u use ur stats instead of the birds..

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im about to try that right now

undone dune
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not anymore

austere atlas
#

o

undone dune
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they changed it so it only does that if you dont have a falcon summoned

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but you still can do that

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i was messing around with it offline and I just couldnt' get the damage very high

austere atlas
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damn

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yeah id have to brick something else to do it

undone dune
#

there just isnt' a ton of support for it on the falconer tree

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i was trying with a spear using that node for flat damage with dex

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but its like 1 damage per 10 dex which is just nothing

austere atlas
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lmfao

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thats so sad

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like what 20 damage from that end game

undone dune
#

yeah

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (50)

General:

▸ Health: 3,132, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 138.34, Regen: 12.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 175 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 168% / 94% / 104% / 74% / 74% / 79% / 84%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 626
▸ Dodge Chance: 58% (2406)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,520)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%

austere atlas
#

cant say i know enough about this game to know if its good or bad by lookgin at it

undone dune
#

all i can say is it didn't work

austere atlas
#

oh yeah i saw uh

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u said u want more dusk shroud

undone dune
#

i feel like theres a spear dive bomb build somewhere

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but that is not it

austere atlas
#

i was looking at that and theres a unique quiver thats related to black arrow and it gives +dodge %dodge but it like has +bow void dmg per stack of shroud

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have u ever played around with that?

undone dune
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thats phase point

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it uhh gives some dusk shrouds on dodge but seems to have an invisible cap

austere atlas
#

damn

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i wonder if its better end game solely to stack dodge tho lmao

undone dune
#

it might be worth using but its super hard to get a lot of LP on

austere atlas
#

yea

#

purple quiver is nice theres definitely a lot of support stats that are useful

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armor shred, armor shred effect, blind

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idk how stun works but that might be good too

undone dune
#

I have way too much armor shred tbh

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when playing umbrals

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the best one is the more damage to slowed targets quiver

austere atlas
#

ahh damn it really

#

im using the armor shred one

undone dune
#

armor shred is good

austere atlas
#

is the 10% bonus just too broken

undone dune
#

but im hitting liek 600 stacks

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and you only need like 100

austere atlas
#

is it capped?

undone dune
#

it soft caps

austere atlas
#

ah

#

what about the armor shred effect amplifier

undone dune
#

go to the shred tab

austere atlas
#

ok

#

i see

#

do mobs armor scale with corruption

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or nah

undone dune
#

not really

#

I think its possible to get an echo mod for more amor maybe? i forget

austere atlas
#

hmm

#

seems like armor scaling isnt ever rly an issue then

#

oops

undone dune
#

but really 150 stacks is like 80% increased and 500 stacks is 85% increased

austere atlas
#

i wonder how troaka teeth is actually

undone dune
#

lower if you have any effect

austere atlas
#

since u can get a lot of bleed, u can use unceni

austere atlas
undone dune
#

thats onlyh bleed on bow hit

austere atlas
#

o

#

can i see ur char i need more builds to look at xd

undone dune
#

very much not optimal

austere atlas
#

damnn 0 block

#

is the bow shred armor on hit just the bricked stat from upgrading

undone dune
#

??

#

what do you mean

#

I would have prefered crit multi (prefix) over armor shred (suffix) but i missed the slam

#

a lot of times

#

i never hit double prefix on weapon slams

#

i have done so many 3lps

austere atlas
#

im trying to 2LP or even 3 LP my weapon soon i cannot wait to be disappointed

austere atlas
#

orobos is doing 7k no crit killing blows to me im about to swap rings when i fight him atp

undone dune
#

Exalted with dex and throwing damage probably

austere atlas
#

it only needs those 2? no suffix?

undone dune
#

Suffixes don't add dps

#

Probably need them to fix resists

austere atlas
#

hmm at that point its not even worth it then

#

damn it

undone dune
#

Throwing damage adds a lot

austere atlas
#

i might do it just cuz there isnt a single source of damage that wont one shot me if i get hit against this guy whats the point of more res

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or def or anything that isnt dodge

#

its really annoying, his black holes on the ground can clip thru so u cant even see the full radius and the second u walk into it u get one shot lol

undone dune
#

What corruption are you up to

austere atlas
#

1200

#

i could increased my void resist to actually benefit from red ring but id rather just get one shot if im not good enough to dodge it ngl

#

if i slam more defense instead of fighting him better cant hit high corruption

undone dune
#

Just need more DPS

#

1200 isn't that high

#

Shade should only last 15 seconds at most

austere atlas
#

yea i definitely need more dps. takes me a few minutes to kill him

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cuz my build is for clearing monos fast and then ig et to orobyss and its not enough

#

hes just so tanky compared to everything else

undone dune
#

That is what is nice about dusk shroud stacking UB though once you get to stand still the DPS skyrockets

austere atlas
#

yea

#

is there a soft cap to dodge?

undone dune
#

80%ish afaik

austere atlas
#

hmm

#

honestly i think

#

not having uberroth relic

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is whats stopping me from getting stronger rn

undone dune
#

Hard caps at 85 but softcaps sooner

#

Uberoth is a skill check

austere atlas
#

yeah i like that about him

undone dune
#

Took me a good 150 attempts to really get it down now it's easy even if my DPS is a little lower. I'm still not good enough at baiting beams to do a 10 min kill though

austere atlas
#

how fast do u kill the regular one?

undone dune
#

Regular Abby?

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Haven't tested it in a while before the divebomb nerf I was killing him before the 1st slam

#

Haven't timed it with UB

small glen
#

What are the odds of this mana to ruin it 👀

undone dune
#

50/50

austere atlas
#

i can equip a higher LP talons finally, but i lose 1 point in bomb and add 1 point into aerial

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sounds worth it

small glen
#

Yep. 2 attempts, mana ruined it in both 🥲

austere atlas
#

yeah even if u dont ruin it its still pretty weak imo

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or maybe im underestimating flat dodge

undone dune
#

Flat dodge not so good because dex gives that already %dodge is better

small glen
#

I'm just testing some stuff and needed the flat dodge if possible, but the game didn't want it to be possible hehe

austere atlas
undone dune
#

Idk what build Dan is doing other than dec stacking based on the mod but yeah

tough tiger
#

When testing dusk shroud stacking on a dummy, i can sometimes get to 130+ but sometimes only like 30-40

#

Is it server lag? Aerial assault + dive bomb is super inconsistent

#

It feels like sometimes i get into a “rythm” and things go crazy

austere atlas
#

would it be that bad if the 2nd suffix on bow was physical damage

austere atlas
#

does bow damage apply to dive bomb, aerial, falconry, umbral

silent relic
#

Don’t quite have enough damage on UB falconer for uberroth following maxroll. Have pretty good gear- I’m wondering if their trees are optimized?
Also rip razor fall next league with capped blades 😦

austere beacon
#

Can you reroll unique affixes

#

Plz tell me you can

undone dune
silent relic
#

They announced it Friday iirc

undone dune
#

do you have a link?

silent relic
#

Razorfall specifically gonna get capped

#

Yeah I’d check the livestream

undone dune
#

ok

#

i dont watch those

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and im not looking through a 3 hour video to find a 30 second mention but good to know

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TBH though capping razorfall specifically seems like a really strange way to nerf falconer

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unless they are throwing capps on everything in the skill trees and also razorfall

stuck coral
#

Am i doing something wrong, I just respecced to try out falconer, following the guides point distribution and i cant seem to move to the next column

undone dune
#

you need to change your mastery from marksman to falconer

stuck coral
#

oh, how do i do that?

undone dune
#

at the same npc you reset your points at

#

he also lets (charges you a ton of gold) you choose a new mastery

stuck coral
#

i only see this as an option

undone dune
#

are you in end of time?

stuck coral
#

oh no

undone dune
#

only the one in end of time does it afaik

stuck coral
#

ok i see that now

#

ty

undone dune
#

forgot that towns in the campaign had those npcs too

stuck coral
#

yeah i think i was in one of the early zones

tired saffron
#

Thoughts on new stat prio for Traitors on Umbral Blade falcon? I have 2 3LP with nice rolls and dont want to slam the wrong thing lol. Still flat damage, or are we going more for minion melee?

errant pollen
#

Anyone got a fun, powerful but interactive rogue build? None of that the game plays itself, one button builds

lapis glacier
#

im doing flame flask/decoy falconer

#

only use the falcon to throw more of my flasks

ocean ember
rose apex
ocean ember
#

Probably my hands are weak for UB falconer😆

thick zenith
austere atlas
#

would i be greedy if i kept waiting for more rings to reroll these attributes

elfin bison
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this falconer fix is really painful

austere atlas
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2nd lowest MS is more annoying to me than the all resistances tbh

elfin bison
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farmed all these items to be set back 50% damage

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jeez

tough viper
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anyone knows how much better is crit strike multiplier better compared to cold damage?

ocean ember
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I got my 2nd red ring, put into egg and guess what % elemental damage

austere atlas
tough viper
austere atlas
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whats ur crit multi and crit chance

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are most of ur skills cold damage?

tough viper
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yes I guess? im using icicle HS marksman

austere atlas
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i dont rly know that build, sry

tough viper
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oh okay

thin quartz
muted cradle
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I'm doing corr 550+ with it

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Multiplier cold damage and crit damage multiplier are more important than 80% cc

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To be clear, with 131% bow attack speed, 50% cc is enough

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This is my case

flint turret
pearl forge
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less and your pc explodes

tough viper
muted cradle
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With 131% bow attack speed you proc so fast that cc is almost permanent like 100%

muted cradle
tough viper
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ah okay

flint turret
muted cradle
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Exact but you proc very fast at 131%

flint turret
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Proc what

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Vuln is capped

muted cradle
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50% cc : Under 2 shots one them is crit

flint turret
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Exactly

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50% is non crit

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Well, of you add crit vuln to 50% it's 70%, but still 30% is non crit

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And it's the same with 50 or 1000 attack speed, that's why I don't see your point in how speed compensates for lacking crit

muted cradle
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Ok if you talk about the attack speed, yes maybe we have a cap and we can go lower than 131%

flint turret
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Attack speed doesn't have a cap, crit chance does

muted cradle
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But with 56% cc I don't see any différence with 80%cc

flint turret
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How much multi do you have? Around 300-350?

muted cradle
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My point is that you don't need 80% or 100% cc if you have a higher attack speed

muted cradle
flint turret
# muted cradle Yes 360

If you do 100 damage attacks baseline, and do 100 attacks, with 360 multi with 56% crit that's 24560 damage
With 80% that's 30800 damage

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 2,145, Regen: 26.4/s
▸ Mana: 258.67, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 220 Dex / 25 Int / 25 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 58% / 58% / 58% / 91% / 81% / 83% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 429
▸ Dodge Chance: 57% (2349)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (727)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 19%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

muted cradle
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I had 100% cc before corr 300, but I was weak everywhere for damage multiplier, so useless. Now I raised all my cc multiplier and low my cc to reach corr 500, maybe now I can try to up my cc

hollow moss
rose apex
violet trellis
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Razorfall and a Legendary
Talons of Valor with Crit Chance and Bow Attack Speed are crucial for the build.

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Anyone tell me why they're required for UB Falconer? I have the bow with Crit Damage on it and the boots, wondering if i can still use the build

signal escarp
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Well take a look at both of the items and you will see many things that sound good for your skills. therefore they are crucial.

hot finch
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anyone wanna help me get the dragonsong bow

winged bone
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how rare is a 3lp reign of winter

thin quartz
stiff nacelle
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anyone tried falconfist build this season?

dull sequoia
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,502, Regen: 58.67/s
▸ Mana: 182.53, Regen: 13.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 135 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 49% / 49% / 67% / 67% / 65% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 22%, Threshold: 300
▸ Dodge Chance: 45% (1533)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (546)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 17%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 22%

undone dune
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from offline testing for a synch strike build I think i found t7 crit multi with t5 minion phys pen and t5 minion melee damage suffixes was best

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but you run out of mana super fast so boss damage isn't that consistant

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the t7 flat phys is also still very good

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but i owuld run a crit multi mod instead of 2 types of flat

dull sequoia
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so once i get a better one i should slam crit multi

undone dune
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with only a 1lp traitos im not sure

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its not hard to get 3lp on that dagger

dull sequoia
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so far i have a few 2lp

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no 3 lp drop yet

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2 of these

undone dune
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also why are you using phyiscal penetration with bleeed idols?

dull sequoia
undone dune
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well %increased melee damage is not super great

dull sequoia
undone dune
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your phyiscal pen doesn't apply to the bird

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and you arn't attacking enough to apply many bleeds

dull sequoia
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well i guess its time to start running some cemetaries

dull sequoia
undone dune
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yes because 30% of 60 is > than 13

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but its not much better

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for pure divebomb damage

dull sequoia
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also what should i do about my chest piece should i revert back to null potend?

undone dune
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I use a 1lp t7 hp null for echos and a 1lp t7 dex null for ubberoth

dull sequoia
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as well as having only 45% dodge i started to feel its not enought i die too manny times

undone dune
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i keep trying to roll 2lp nulls and failing to hit a useful slam

dull sequoia
undone dune
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btw I think this is the idol you want

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although you can swap the suffix to resist if you want

dull sequoia
ocean ember
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How good is your gear Kezic?

undone dune
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good gear terrible luck with slams

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so mid?

sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 2,145, Regen: 26.4/s
▸ Mana: 258.67, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 220 Dex / 25 Int / 25 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 58% / 58% / 58% / 91% / 81% / 83% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 429
▸ Dodge Chance: 57% (2349)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (727)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 19%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

ocean ember
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His is way better than mine

undone dune
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that is old i did find a 2nd 4x1 idol

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wait thats not even mine

dull sequoia
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is that not yours?

undone dune
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its similar but not my character

ocean ember
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (56)

General:

▸ Health: 1,469, Regen: 23.2/s
▸ Mana: 270.49, Regen: 8.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 20/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 146 Dex / 10 Int / 10 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 69% / 119% / 83% / 115% / 87% / 78% / 123%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 294
▸ Dodge Chance: 51% (1984)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,614)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

dull sequoia
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ah i know its the others MB XDDD

undone dune
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oh right because my character is using a talons of valor right now

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i was messing with UB

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im also at like 216 dex with no dex mod on boots which makes me sad

spare folio
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how do i tell if my heartseeker build is at 100% crit after all modifiers?

undone dune
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but i cant even get 2lp on a razorfall to save my life let alone hit dex

spare folio
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im trying to figure out if i need to stack more crit chance

undone dune
dull sequoia
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find all the flat crit you have withing your build write it all out add it then go to a calculator and do that times whatever % increased critical strike chance u have

undone dune
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LET has the ability to turn buffs on

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and you can kind of do some funny stuff with your equiped weapon to see damage type conditional crit

ocean ember
undone dune
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if you are running synch strike yes

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thats what my testing says

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or really you should swap the 2nd one for minion melee damage

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which is a suffix

ocean ember
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I tried playing with sync strikes

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I hated it

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Dunno why

undone dune
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t7 flat phys + phys pen + minion melee on 3lp

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minion melee is also way better now that half of the damage isn't comming from a minion thrown skill

spare folio
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not sure how accurate this is, this doesnt seem to include vulnerability

undone dune
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vulnerability is a flat +20

dull sequoia
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question kezic what was juse cooking with black arrow u know?

undone dune
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nope

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probalby more dusk shroud stacks somehow

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but i cant be asked to pick them up

spare folio
undone dune
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oof maxroll planner

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idk how to use this

spare folio
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where are you seeing the fire crit chance?

undone dune
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you just take bow crit + 7 + (7 * increased crit chance)

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its way over 100%

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thats all thats important

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maxroll doesn't have a good way to show this

spare folio
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uhhh why +7 and all that?

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oh from dragonsong

undone dune
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yeah fro mdragonsong

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on LET i just replace the bow with the exalted itemtype that has base crit

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you can use a bow with 4% bow crit implicit + quiver with 3% bow crit implicit to see if you are capped

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but i cant (or dont know how) ot edit builds on the maxroll planner

spare folio
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so if i have 281% increased crit, it would be 7% * 2.81 + 7%?

undone dune
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its uhh

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7*(1+incrasesed crit chance) is better

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its actually the same formula

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but just cleaner

spare folio
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so thats a base fire crit of 83.67%, hitting 100% with max crit vulnerability stacks

undone dune
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again if you just linked your character on LET i could show you

spare folio
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ah, its fine, i just did the maths, thanks

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i was just wondering if i should keep farming for more lp2 helms to reroll

undone dune
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should be farming for higher LP than 2 on peak of the mountain

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its super easy to get 3 or even 4 lp on that

spare folio
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thats weird, isnt it 1 in 24 for lp3?

undone dune
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yeah

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thats super common

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especially for CoF

spare folio
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1 in 24 doesnt seem very common :(

wispy sandal
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I imagine this has to be a common question but...

for umbral blades/most falconer builds, it says to just spam your aerial assault/dive bomb/falconry on cd.

However I notice that it looks like falcon skills can "cut off" other falcon skills? Ex. if I dive bomb and then immediately falconry it seems to cancel the dive bomb?

So should you spam abilities or time it? Or is falconer so spammy it doesn't matter if some get "cut off"

undone dune
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with CoF the boss can drop up to 3 uniques per kill and the chance for 3lp goes down to 1/15

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wouldn't take very many tries at all

undone dune
ivory sentinel
wispy sandal
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@undone dune ohhh that makes sense. I'm unbral blades, but even that has a lot of shadow falcons. Good to know I'm not crazy that dive bomb will get cut off, but it's accounted for.

undone dune
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dive bomb itself wont get cut off really

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the bird will always hit

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then the extra hits are from shadows

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so they dont care what the bird is doing

wispy sandal
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ohhh yeah I'm testing it now, if dive bomb is cut off/canceled, it just goes on a very short cd. Which I guess is also why it's better to just spam.

undone dune
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basically the high dps falconer builds are ones that dont care if you spam all skills

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because the cooldown reductions from using them in a chain is so much better than using them "tactically"

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its not even close

wispy sandal
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yeah even when I thought dive bomb was getting cancelled spamming made sense to me.

but now that I see a cancelled dive bomb basically has no cd and the shadow falcon thing...it's full spam time lol

spare folio
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im at COF 9

undone dune
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so you have the higher LP chance but not more boss loot (yet)

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still its a very easy unique to farm high LP on

spare folio
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maybe i will farm more after i level COF

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im not sure if igniting yourself will kill you

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oh it looks like he uses ashes of mortality to gain ward

undone dune
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i tried with that belt

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i was igniting myself way too fast

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not nearly enough sustain

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if you manage to balance it out though it sound so strong

spare folio
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how do people normally use the belt?

undone dune
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you generally need to be sustaining from leech and not life per hit

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because the damage it does is too high

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or have way less dot damage taken

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i used it on a warlock once

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TBH though using it with ashes is interesting

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but 2 second cooldown sounds kind of mediocre

dull sequoia
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what if he uses the orians amulet

undone dune
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and twisted heart (relic) wont do much other than have 20% life and +1 ele skills because you arn't casting an elemental spell yourself ever

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also this guy is pretty smart to use spell damage mods on ring/neck because fire or elmenetal damage mods would increase the self ignite damage

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he might have figured it out

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only change i would make if you want to try that is swap julra's gloves for immortal vise (if you have one)

errant pollen
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Anyone got a fun, powerful but interactive rogue build? None of that the game plays itself, one button builds

small glen
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Should I be spending points in those 2 nodes instead of somewhere else? I see them being use in a lot of planners posted here. Kinda confused

undone dune
undone dune
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midnight arsenal does nothing if you are specced into spinning umbral blades

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but its very good otherwise