🔪┃rogue

[lusty birch]

like it's still doable but its way slower and not worth it ngl i'd rather farm on erasing strike at that point

[atomic vapor]

wait I think I can cook brb

[vernal zealot]

i just want to know what we slam on traitors now

still flat or?

[verbal pier]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWlqZ50B

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 2,637, Regen: 52.4/s
▸ Mana: 251.51, Regen: 10.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 89%, Regen: 53/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 200 Dex / 26 Int / 26 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 79% / 80% / 72% / 86% / 66% / 71%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 527
▸ Dodge Chance: 45% (1653)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,944)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%

Used skills:

Dive Bomb / Falconry / Aerial Assault / Synchronized Strike / Smoke Bomb

[verbal pier]

no

1. Phys Pen + Minion
2. Minion Melee
3. Crit Multi
4. Flat Melee
5. Shred ( if ur inheritance doesnt have shred )

its best for dagger

[vernal zealot]

so for imprinting i should probably try to havoc the minion dmg

or just leave with the little fp it has

[bold mortar]

i grinded 2 of these up yesterday am i cooked post patch? was gonna try to get the build online this weekend

[thick zenith]

Build seems to be semi wrecked yeah. Will need adjusting. I am sure @terse bloom will come up with something

[vernal zealot]

meru just posted a 1:30 kill post patch

so bro was cooking

[thick zenith]

1:30. Could read 2 books in that amount of time

[vernal zealot]

1:18 from loading in to loot spawning

[lusty birch]

my kills are like 3 minutes now 😢

and they're 3 very hard minutes of dodging since my gear is suboptimal on survivability

[round depot]

What was Change After Patch ?

[austere atlas]

can i have the link to the original build by juse?

[small glen]

Shadow birds don't proc featherfall anymore (as intended).
Dusk Shroud stacks are now properly generated, tho.

[ebon gale]

You all theory crafting, I'm just here hitting the bell on Juse for his next video to tell me how to fix my build

[full carbon]

lol same

[round depot]

Ok so I was Running an older Build of Juse with more clear ist this still viable or crap now ?

[atomic vapor]

https://streamable.com/viqapb

Streamable doesn't embed?

[small glen]

I havea no idea. I never used Juse's build. I'm just a commoner peasant using the standard Maxroll UB planner lol

[atomic vapor]

second try

[silent relic]

Is sync strike cooking still

[atomic vapor]

nvm I can't get it to embed

@vernal zealot

1:20 I think from the moment abby starts moving

also bad gameplay, can go down a lot

[verbal pier]

yeaa but after patched killing uber Abberoth from 24-28 sec become 35-40 sec when I try it

[atomic vapor]

btw meru I respecced max featherstorm

it seems to be doing work

I don't think it's by a whole lot tho

maybe around 10s difference to me?

give or take

still feels like a damage boost

[silent relic]

Such a visually pleasing build

[atomic vapor]

sorry featherfall*

[south fog]

could you show current set up?

[verbal pier]

yesss because before patch with only 1 points on featherfall u can cast 10 / divebomb but rightnow need to be max point so can cast 8

[atomic vapor]

yeah but there's far better geared rogues here, but sure

[atomic vapor]

you're right but I figured 4 shadow falcons might be a overall dmg nerf

and it's not THAT far behind btw

but the dmg is noticable

not crazy, but noticable

[vernal zealot]

literally doing the definition of insanity right now

[atomic vapor]

it's not updated to 4/4 featherfall yet but herehttps://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Blasdrimal/character/Sylvie

[vernal zealot]

how do you not giga oom with syn strike?

i keep going -70 mana

[atomic vapor]

double red rings, nihilis

enough mana regen

also this

I'm gonna try to get my time under a minute before I get 2lp boots

but for now I'll just farm

thanks a lot for the collective brainstorming btw you guys are awesome (compared to ppl who cry about changes lol)

[south fog]

thanks

[trail pumice]

thanks @atomic vapor for testing things, you are more awesome than all of us here# 😄

[verbal pier]

agreed, cause we lose featherfall from that shadow hahaha

[atomic vapor]

thank juse for the initial idea, I'm just a guy theorycrafting

btw meru's divebomb use this

it doesn't show in my planner yet

this should be the most dps i think (killed uberroth 5 times with this and it seems very spicy)

[trail pumice]

thank you very much, i have updated my build with this and not yet tested

[stoic shadow]

but you use umbral on skill bar?

[atomic vapor]

no, umbrals + s.daggers for dual traitors at least is a very very noticable dps loss

spec sync strike and only use it to pop big targets if you run out of mana

for uberroth you shouldn't run out of mana with double red rings

[vernal zealot]

i think they changed how controller interacts with smoke bomb too

[atomic vapor]

are you zooming

[vernal zealot]

keep flipping into the middle of the arena lmao

[atomic vapor]

.. nvm

[lusty birch]

do you have a order of priority for inheritance?

im gonna need to farm up a new one so

[vernal zealot]

just throwing myself at boss

1morbillion times

[atomic vapor]

also don't worry too much if you've got flat dmg slams on daggers

you still get stuff

but I agree multi should be better

(will test later, my friend is calling me to blast troves)

[lusty birch]

i have this on my current dagger, does this work with the sync strikes variant?

im currently using the plain umbral blades + falconer variant from a while ago

[atomic vapor]

you're cooking lol, you should be just fine

[austere atlas]

im confused does this dive bomb adjustment effect the strike or umbral build

[lusty birch]

both

[austere atlas]

i heard umbral is like 30-50% reduction

[vernal zealot]

cant even crack 90% on traitors lol

[atomic vapor]

we kill uberroth 20s slower, that's it. people overreact

it's still insanely strong

[verbal pier]

Inheritance

1. Crit Multi
2. Phys Pen
3. Throwing
4. Shred

[lusty birch]

well 20s out of how long before though

[austere atlas]

oh okay

from what i was hearing it sounded like my build is dead af

[atomic vapor]

@lusty birch

keep in mind theres FAR better geared rogues than me

[lusty birch]

nah it's not dead at all just less damage, still playable

[atomic vapor]

meru pushes what 40 seconds

[lusty birch]

isn't that post patch

[atomic vapor]

which was my kill pre nerf

[lusty birch]

oh i see

so yeah 30-50% less damage is about right

[austere atlas]

hm ok

[atomic vapor]

50 is crazy

[lusty birch]

that being said, the dmg before WAS too good

[atomic vapor]

30% sounds reasonable

[austere atlas]

is there any adjustments to skill points i should do? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Voidy_McKnightFace/character/Umbral_McBladesFace

[atomic vapor]

I'd debate it's less than 30% because my gameplay is giga sloppy

[lusty birch]

for my plain umbral blades falconer, 50% is about right since the shadow falcons helped keep uptime on dps as well while dodging

that being said, once i swap to sync strikes maybe it'll be better

[austere atlas]

i kind of use every skill on cooldown so maybe it will reduce my damage less too

[atomic vapor]

I'm only talking about my double traitor sync strike variant that juse first posted

I know people use talons and traps etc

I don't use that

[vernal zealot]

this version got hit about 70%

[austere atlas]

yay

[atomic vapor]

if you want my genuine opinion, drop your umbral blades skill tree and get sync strike

but up to you ofc

[vernal zealot]

pretty much only people who are having any luck is traitors version

everybody here is traitors

[austere atlas]

whats the sync strike guide

[lusty birch]

yeah ima do that, after i get a better inheritance and slam a new LP2 second dagger since i only have 1 good dagger

unless you think a LP1 traitors with just crit multi is good enough lol

[atomic vapor]

I have more dps with nihilis right now. those skill points are now super helpful

[austere atlas]

this is sad i was using daggers a couple days ago and swapped to bow

[atomic vapor]

you need those 2 points in dive bomb

for max featherfall

[lusty birch]

oooo maybe i'll try that then

i have plenty of nihilis, almost a whole stash tab full

[atomic vapor]

1lp nihilis with throw slam should be enough

or tbh

[lusty birch]

crit multi probably no?

[atomic vapor]

you can experiment with multi too

[vernal zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/i_grief_alot/character/heartsook ignoring the non slammed daggers what am i doing wrong here, its like 45secs to do first phase

[lusty birch]

i just slammed one for a different build so i'll try with that first

[tough tiger]

How is bow nerfed 70%? Explain

[vernal zealot]

i killed uber before the patch and after the patch and it felt about that much

[austere atlas]

i just want to know what guide people are referring to with synchronized strikes

[atomic vapor]

for context this is my ammy and I get slower kills lmao

skill points super useful post nerf it seems like

[eternal heron]

do you die easier with nih compared to the weaver neck?

[atomic vapor]

not at all

[lusty birch]

yeah mine was really bad lol

[eternal heron]

gotta figure out why im dying since patch xD

[lusty birch]

uhh let me find it, if you just search on youtube 'juse sync strike' u should be able to fiond it too

it's not a guide, just a build planner

[austere atlas]

i can find it tysm

[eternal heron]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/magicturtle1/character/ShirleyBird

think ill go sync...

[austere atlas]

but i should wait for a few days for him to updatre the build yea?

[atomic vapor]

Keep in mind I got 3.5k health, I don't know how much gear you've got

[lusty birch]

damn i only had like 2.5k hp albeit with only dps slams on gear but still

[eternal heron]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/magicturtle1/character/ShirleyBird got only 2200, def need some different idols %hp I guess

[atomic vapor]

I get bonked for 2k by champs at 1000c

You're in oneshot territory at that hp imo

[lusty birch]

oh i see ur using brewmaster

[atomic vapor]

I don't think I'm going to jungle belt either

I see no need

[lusty birch]

i mean yeah your dmg is good

[sharp nimbus]

is falcon still worth playing?

[lusty birch]

i only use this build to farm uberroth and not echoes though so ima go jungle

[eternal heron]

yes

[atomic vapor]

I find brew safer for reweaving runs

[lusty birch]

yes? your dps is definitely down but it's still very playable and top tier dps

[atomic vapor]

the possessed mobs hurt

not like dying does anything but yk

[lusty birch]

i use other builds to farm echoes xd

[austere atlas]

was the dps originally like double or triple compared to rank 2 dps or something?

[lusty birch]

i cannot get used to aerial assault pausing me in echoes

[sharp nimbus]

i legit just made a fallcon yesterday ahah why im asking

falcon

[austere atlas]

its my only character lmao

[sharp nimbus]

i got 260 hours on a es build

[lusty birch]

no clue ngl im not too familiar with the top dps builds besides this one

[vernal zealot]

so slamming is phys pen-minion dmg-multi right?

[small glen]

Is there a way to prevent that?

[vernal zealot]

flat aint needed now

[lusty birch]

not really? aerial assault just has a cast time and it's really annoying

but it's needed to deal dmg sooo

[small glen]

Ah, yeah. Its pretty annoying

[sharp nimbus]

so what build is top dps atm\

[lusty birch]

i know the time rot void knight is pretty up there

for like burst dps

[austere atlas]

would it be a really bad decision to just keep building it anyways, i dont know how much resources it would take to pivot

i mean im only 1 week in so i guess its not that bad

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Voidy_McKnightFace/character/Umbral_McBladesFace my build for reference

[vernal zealot]

its honestly pretty much just a skill swap and traitors

[lusty birch]

the hardest part would be getting lp2+ traitors

besides that it shouldn't be too hard

[austere atlas]

okay so its like same armor and stuff

[lusty birch]

well with your current setup no not same armor

i mean i guess u could use it for more dmg

[austere atlas]

hm ok and this is the synchronized strike juse build right

[lusty birch]

but null portent is pretty damn nice for survivability

yes

[vernal zealot]

manngggg i cant be bothered farming exalted daggers

[austere atlas]

yeah i bet the one i have is just till i get that one

[lusty birch]

you should be able to still easily farm regular abberoth even with suboptimal gear so

it should be obtainable, at least a lp1 even

[austere atlas]

yeah i gotta unlock him with the harbringer quest im just so lazy

LP1 is good enough id be slamming % HP over dex

[austere atlas]

i lied i cant find it

[lusty birch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj3xbWQ

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 3,510, Regen: 47.8/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 199 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 89% / 92% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2773)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,831)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Synchronized Strike / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[lusty birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr3VpMrnbKI

[austere atlas]

tyty

[lusty birch]

oh i just saw this comment he posted on his own video lmao

[austere atlas]

they did touch falcon scaling right?

[lusty birch]

in the 1.2 update? idk i didnt read the whole patch notes and this is my first time playing last epoch, this season

[vernal zealot]

so i need shadows affixes on stuff and slam my daggers and i might have chance of killing uber

[atomic vapor]

I'm not sure I'm gonna play falconer in season 3 anyway

I think I wanna main sentinel one season

[lusty birch]

the build itself is annoying af to play in echoes for me, only reason i even made the build was to farm uberroth

[vernal zealot]

poe1 announcment soon prayge

[atomic vapor]

I like mapping with it a lot personally

[lusty birch]

idk man the constant pausing from aerial assault

just drives me insane

also at least with the variant i was playing, the dmg isn't even that good for clearing mobs, dmg like ramped up after sitting next to mobs for a couple seconds

[atomic vapor]

do you by chance use a macro

I don't personally

[lusty birch]

yes, i can't be asked to spam 3 buttons 24/7 sry

[atomic vapor]

hold them down

[lusty birch]

then why not just use macro

macro does same thing

[austere atlas]

the guide i uses shows the order of points i spend in skills, do i just need to guess for now then

[atomic vapor]

I don't like that I have to toggle/untoggle, I respond faster by letting the buttons go

[lusty birch]

i mean i guess yeah but holding buttons is honestly even worse feeling to me than pressing them

[atomic vapor]

I can definitely see how it depends on the person yeah

I'm d2 pilled, qwer is in my blood at this point

my hand hovers over the buttons regardless

[lusty birch]

i wouldn't recommend swapping immediately, maybe get to higher level and farm up the gear needed to swap first

[atomic vapor]

holding them down doesn't really ruin it for me

[austere atlas]

i am coming from osu so spamming them is fine for me but holding them sounds like a nightmare lol

[austere atlas]

yeah ill have to do that then

[lusty birch]

i mean yeah my hand hovers over them as well, i played poe1 for 10k plus hours
but the act of holding them down for extended periods like does not feel good

[atomic vapor]

fully reasonable

[austere atlas]

the dagger has a 5.8% chance from rune of ascendance, me likey

[lusty birch]

if you want higher LP then spam some prophecies too yeah

lp2 should be easily obtained

[vernal zealot]

it literally needs lp daggers

[austere atlas]

i wanna swap asap

ohj

u cant get LP from ascendance?

[lusty birch]

you can but it's much less chance

i mean like it follows regular drop table

[austere atlas]

got it

[vernal zealot]

yeah ive been sat for almost 3hrs trying to tinker and i have basically nothing to use to change gear

[austere atlas]

i should probably figure out how the build actually works and where the damage comes from before i even get LPs anyways

[lusty birch]

xd

[austere atlas]

xd

[austere atlas]

rough

[atomic vapor]

does es kill it that much slower?

aren't minmaxed es under 2 min kills?

[pearl forge]

nah min maxed ones are also 40s

[atomic vapor]

even better

[sharp nimbus]

wtf is es killing in 40 seconds

[lusty birch]

what kind of minmax are we talking here lmao if lp4 yeah sure i can believe that

but like LP2's? nah 40s is cap

[sharp nimbus]

facts

[vernal zealot]

im pretty much full lp2 gear on ES and its atleast 3mins just to get last phase

and havent killed it on him in many tries lol

[lusty birch]

like my erasing strike is not minmaxed lp2 but it's a lot of lp2 gear and definitely takes like 3-4 minutes per kill

[sharp nimbus]

mymain thing is

i dont have no shred on ym es

which adds 40% damage

but im still at 1.5m dps

[atomic vapor]

imo es is harder to go high lp than builds with world drops in cof

boss drops can be decieving imo

[lusty birch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Goalaso/character/GoalasoSentinel
i missed my slam on my axe (wanted attack speed) but maybe hitting shred was a blessing in disguise

[sharp nimbus]

yeah

brother

i missed my shred

and hit void damage

[lusty birch]

f

[sharp nimbus]

% damage

[lusty birch]

yeah im trying to farm a 2lp blade of chaos for my timerot vk but that shit does not wanna drop or be turtled

[pearl forge]

yea it takes a lot

i have farmed it a lot and only gotten like 3

[vernal zealot]

have you killed him with that gear?

[pearl forge]

although im mg not cof

[atomic vapor]

I got a 3lp black blade and I don't even use it man

[lusty birch]

yeah thats how i farmed gear to gear out my falconer to farm uber faster
probably has like 30 kills of uber on that gear
in contrast my falconer has like 100+ kills

[atomic vapor]

😔

[austere atlas]

so the priority stats for the daggers are fire and cold melee damage, and then physical melee, then physical armor reduction

[lusty birch]

with the new nerfs though people in this channel are saying different priority

[atomic vapor]

not a crazy difference imo

tried both ways

[lusty birch]

maybe juse will come out with new video but idk
in this channel people are saying: shared minion/phys pen, flat minion damage, crit multi, shred

[austere atlas]

hm ok ill just farm the 2LP daggers and wait then

[vernal zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/i_grief_alot/character/splitteddaworld im not sure what i do wrong (i can swap to sulorons but i get further with inevitable boots)

[lusty birch]

oh yeah i use sulurons for bossing

[austere atlas]

and for the unique dagger, the stat roll priority would be +2 skill points, then what

[lusty birch]

i mean your gear looks fine, it's probably just a practice diff

like i spent 100+ attempts learning uberroth fight and now i know how to dodge like everything

and also know what i can tank

[lusty birch]

your gear is much better than what i first killed uberroth with so just keep trying and learn the mechanics even better

i was basically full LP1 on first uberroth kill on my ES vk

[atomic vapor]

with falc, the only things you cant tank are the big things

meteors, timeshattering slam, green hadoukens

wells and beams, you can eat up

[lusty birch]

eh on my current falc i die to even an auto attack

[atomic vapor]

ok ok fair lmao

[lusty birch]

so i have to always evade and avoid any kind of boss attacks

the dots though yeah i can tank

[atomic vapor]

for the regular flail swings

just silver shroud it

[lusty birch]

nah i like internalized how to dodge those even too

cus its really annoying if i lose track of my silver shroud

basically if i ever see him wind up for any kind of attack i evade LOL

[atomic vapor]

souls pilled

gotta dodge it all

[lusty birch]

what was saving me was the dps before

now my dps is way worse on falconer so it's much much harder to kill

so i need to swap gear

[atomic vapor]

today I have horrid luck

all are failed imprints

I'll never get that boot slam I swear

[tough tiger]

Huh how are you not killing uber with that gear? What % do you get to and what kills you

[vernal zealot]

usually bad timing on slams i think

i stand behind for triple slam and he still hits me omegalol

[lusty birch]

i think a good skill to learn for the fight is avoiding the triple flail slam without going behind him

it'll help a lot

[prisma marlin]

NO WORRIES WE ARE STILL GUD

[sharp nimbus]

so much stuff is bugged atm

having to relog after every dungon and shit

wont let me start another

[lusty birch]

i won't complain if they rollback the patch 😉

[mental patrol]

how do you play that sync strike version

i as on the way old umbral version juice build from like 3 weeks ago

[undone dune]

Synch strike is just there to give you 200% shadow damage and transfer your crit multi to the bird

[sharp nimbus]

idek what to do with my falcon even more

[undone dune]

It basically plays the same as the divebomb version

[wild harbor]

i hate how we went from explosive trap acid flask to worse explosive trap acid flask ... and we still cant justify not using explosive trap for acid flask

[undone dune]

Spam AA+divebomb

[mental patrol]

dont spam the falconry active though?

and flat melee on weapon isnt the best slam anymore right?

something like shared pen > ? > flat melee > Crit mult?

and last question am i really hurting myself with Nihilis instead of Inheritance?

[full carbon]

Is there some desync problem or something? This has happened to me like 4 times now. I get him to spawn first harby, I go over there at full health then I just die out of nowhere, my health bubble goes straight to 0 after the death animation starts and it says I was killed by tangling roots for 5 damage.

[atomic vapor]

It's a mechanic

Iirc it kills you if you spam evade while having it

It's the thing that roots you in place

Just reposition with smoke bomb

[full carbon]

huh didn't know that. and never would have guessed it

thx

[atomic vapor]

The visual is that green line thing that rolls through the stage

Not always comfortable to avoid but taking it isn't the end of the world if you can reposition with your traversal skill

[full carbon]

I wish I could see it lol. I'm slightly visually impaired and this fight is pretty visually chaotic. I can't hardly tell what's going sometimes.

I'll keep at it

[atomic vapor]

The first one spawns at the bottom left and goes up to almost the height of the middle of the stage

Stand at the upper half upon phase change

And you'll avoid the first one

Alternatively if you stand exactly where the harbinger stands, you're safe iirc

[lusty birch]

idk from my experience if i die from something else while rooted it says i got killed by the root for 5 dmg

i can definitely evade while rooted

[full carbon]

yeah that time I didn't evade at all and I still died to the root so you're probably right Goalaso

[atomic vapor]

I don't know if the trigger is attempting to move or something else

[lusty birch]

nah its just if u die from anything while rooted it says the root kills u

be it triple flail whatever

weird bug that should probably be fixed

[atomic vapor]

I've died before to just the root. Outside of every skill at the other end of the stage

No meteor or slam or anything

[lusty birch]

there's definitely some desync issues too, i've noticed that my character was nowhere close to what it says killed me and it killed me

like im 5 feet from the superheated vortex and it says it killed me

[atomic vapor]

Could be. But due to the interaction I deduced the root is there to keep you in place until it wears off, then if you try to "break free" it "entangles you"

Made thematic sense in my head

If it something else idek honestly

[lusty birch]

nah you can try right now, evading while rooted

i do it all the time to avoid slams

[peak ledge]

how well does a bow bleed build work at mid corruption, say 500? id assume heartseeker..

[atomic vapor]

All heartseeker builds clear 500 super easy

Just don't expect to push very far with marksman

It's very undertuned

[peak ledge]

also not alot of bleed uniques for rogues it seems... still may try pushing mine further

[thin quartz]

ive never died while rooted using evade.

[atomic vapor]

Like goalaso said it could simply be a weird desync issue which sounds entirely possible

I've died multiple times to it while learning the fight

[sharp nimbus]

alot of bugs going on also

after patch

[lusty birch]

again its cus if u die while rooted it counts the root as killing u

you can easily replicate it

[atomic vapor]

I'm gonna try it when I'm back online, but I believe you obviously

[thin quartz]

how come its undertuned in your pov

[atomic vapor]

In the sense that a newcomer to the game would have to put a lot of investment to push as far as other builds push effortlessly. The same level of gear does not correspond to the same level of pushing

I think that's the definition of undertuned

and not a pov

[thin quartz]

with other builds do you mean proper build or actually broken build?

[silent relic]

Saw a comment on Reddit that falcons don’t inherit stats at all now?

Despair

[atomic vapor]

Ask yourself it it compares to anything you personally consider a proper and not broken build.

[atomic vapor]

We had a convo about it, scroll up if you'd like. 2lp gear clears in around 1-1.5 minutes

It's not the end of the world

[thin quartz]

i mean... i did. im playing HS and im min maxing it out alot.

during early 1lp / 2lp days, i was already doing 500c, easily.

[atomic vapor]

Which is what I also said to that person. 1lp clears 500c easily

[mental patrol]

how are people stacking dusk shroud so high, mines only going to like 11 stacks

[atomic vapor]

Do you have cdr everywhere and maxed out +all skills

[mental patrol]

Yes

[atomic vapor]

Hmmm

[thin quartz]

yeah but if we were to really consider every single build out there, less than 50% of the build can clear 500c easily

me giving 50% is also way too much tbh.

[atomic vapor]

When a new player asks for advice, you don't direct them to the bottom half of the builds, but rather towards a build that will help them learn the game

I would recommend marksman to a newcomer when it has close to zero defensive mechanisms other than iframes on shift

Wouldn't*

[lusty birch]

i couldn't get myself to die while rooted just now but i can definitely evade while rooted

[thin quartz]

i see. so you're pitting HS against all the big meta builds.

[sharp nimbus]

WHAT IS HS?

Xd

[small glen]

After some playing I can testify I didnt notice any significant dps drop AT ALL on my falconer (standard build from maxroll).

Conclusion: I was ALREADY nerfed even before the nerf lol

[atomic vapor]

I wonder if I just didn't realize I got hit by something else while I was learning the fight

[lusty birch]

maybe

[sharp nimbus]

you sure?

[atomic vapor]

Imo falconers overreact

At the top of the food chain and they lost 20% DPS and it's the end of the world

[sharp nimbus]

was it only 20%?

[atomic vapor]

The sync strike traitors seems to be around that ballpark

I get around 20% slower uberroth kills

[sharp nimbus]

look imma be real

idk half the shit yall saying is i follow maxroll guides

point and click

l0l

[atomic vapor]

I don't like the maxroll falconer build

[sharp nimbus]

i playes es build for 260 hours got bored and made a falcon 2 days ago

played*

[atomic vapor]

ES takes more skill than falconer imo

[sharp nimbus]

no way

shits just right click

[slate mulch]

at lower gear levels its much harder than falconer

[sharp nimbus]

who tf

[slate mulch]

at higher gear levels falconer does it faster

[atomic vapor]

Right click that locks you into an animation , which only gets better with t7 attack speed

[sharp nimbus]

starts out as es?

all you need is a ws

but you tank 90% of everything

[lusty birch]

to beat uberroth? probably yeah takes more skill

[sharp nimbus]

and have so much leech it dont matter half the time

[slate mulch]

any melee build is p difficult against uberroth imo

[atomic vapor]

I'm pretty sure the metics on launch were 40% vk starters lmao

[slate mulch]

i unironically had more difficulty doing uberroth on ES vs chakram bladedancer

and bladedancer has fewer than 10 people that beat uberroth

[lusty birch]

for sure, ES just doesn't output as much dmg

[sharp nimbus]

ive never killed uber on my account l0l

[small glen]

Well, ES is monofinger, ok, but you have to learn how to manage that mana and keep those 3 stacks always up, constant moving, etc...

[sharp nimbus]

but im also bad

[atomic vapor]

I think ES takes more skill, dmg or otherwise

[slate mulch]

chakram took almost 10 minutes but it was easier to dodge stuff reactively

[sharp nimbus]

how do you look up ur account

and shit

[lusty birch]

erasing strike is hard because it locks you into the animation when u attack

[small glen]

Also this

[sharp nimbus]

aa does also

[atomic vapor]

And it feels very clunky with 1) the animation of ES itself and 2) devouring orb management

[slate mulch]

it was kind of sad though that 1 LP erasing strike did like triple the damage 2-3 LP chakrams did

lol

[atomic vapor]

Falconer doesn't care about all that

[small glen]

And that's a big F for a class that depends of constant movement

[sharp nimbus]

whats the website

to look at chars and shit

[slate mulch]

i wish LE had D4 or POE2 level game engine with smooth movement and attacks

[silent relic]

Oh you cleared on bd? Solo? How was it?

[slate mulch]

i will put in a disclaimer and say i did it offline

[atomic vapor]

Offline doesn't matter

You still gotta do the fight

It's not free

[lusty birch]

i mean i guess the question becomes how realistic the gear was

[atomic vapor]

Especially on squishy mcsquishlord bd

Ok yeah if bro was stacked on 4lp it's not a good metric

[small glen]

I haven't killed Uberroth yet, but my ES has WAY more than enough damage to murder him. All the problem is between the keyboard and the chair 😛

[slate mulch]

the fight took 9 min ish

[sharp nimbus]

my char

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Creatxr/character/Creator

im trash af l0l

[slate mulch]

i used 2-3 LP gear

and i set the roll ranges for everytthing to 60%

[atomic vapor]

can you eat any single attack that isn't the purple laser on bd

[slate mulch]

so higher than average but not giga juiced

[atomic vapor]

Sounds reasonable

[slate mulch]

theres a guy that did it elgit with shadow cascade BD

his fight took longer but it was because he managed lasers in the beginning

overall seems similar to chakrams

[atomic vapor]

idk you could pay me to kill it on bd

And I'd swap games

[slate mulch]

yeah it took me several days

the guy who did with cascade bd had 3-4 LP gear

and it took 10 minutes

3-4 LP ES would probably kill uberroth in like 30 seconds

[atomic vapor]

Wonder if mirage or dancing strikes would be better

[lusty birch]

idk about 30 seconds

[atomic vapor]

Cascade is such a meme skill for a main skill

[slate mulch]

i tried a bleed dancing strikes build

its actually doable against uberroth

but its also a 10 min fight

which no matter what is not pleasant

[atomic vapor]

F

Any flask build with good dot damage?

[slate mulch]

no but there is a flask build that killed him in like 3 min

[atomic vapor]

Wasn't that falc

[slate mulch]

i believe it was marksman

mistia i think made it?

[atomic vapor]

Actually stonks? Go marksmen

Oh makes sense

Ok makes a lot of sense lol

[silent relic]

Oh shit what- I love cascade

Man I love that dancing strikes can also do it

Sparks joy

[atomic vapor]

I saw that lethal mirage mapper with black blade and I was like "wasted weapon, that's one less timerot"

I'm not trying to hate but

You know I'm right

[slate mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmHQmAGl1dU

actually wow

3 min cascade kill

[ivory sentinel]

Ppl cleared it as bd and mm flask trappers at ~5min, can push it to like 3 min.

My shadow cascade kill was 5min first kill, down to 3 on farm setup

[slate mulch]

oh hey thats you

[ivory sentinel]

nah one you mentioned was potatoe

[atomic vapor]

It's silly how flask isn't more popular when it's objectively one of the strongest builds for non falconers

[slate mulch]

i linked a lowlife BD cascade kill at 3 min, youtube channel name is tesla, thats def you right

[ivory sentinel]

I got heavily inspired (was about to give up but saw his kill) so I grinded like 4 more days and got it myself too.

oh yeah that 3 min is me

[vernal cedar]

ES is total ass compared to Falconer for uberroth

[ivory sentinel]

saw you mentioned the longer one, that was potatoes and I saw it can be done so tried harder

[vernal cedar]

lol

[silent relic]

How crazy was your gear?

[red turtle]

So what is the best rogue build lol

[atomic vapor]

what's the lowlife setup? Did you have to use twisted heart

[ivory sentinel]

I had uber items (gloves and relic) from previous char

gear is decent

[slate mulch]

probably need really good laser management to do it on lowlife

[atomic vapor]

Oh you used shattered worlds

[slate mulch]

can you tank beams with ward at the end if you didnt manage them?

[atomic vapor]

A 3 min kill shouldn't need to manage lasers at the last phase I don't think

[vernal cedar]

If I use aerial assault, falcon strike and dive bomb repeatedely mashing the buttons, does that interrupt each other?
lol
Trying to figure out how to play with the class

[atomic vapor]

After the slam can just sit still

[ivory sentinel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXqgazlA

[atomic vapor]

Probably enough dps

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (22) / Bladedancer (62) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,700, Regen: 26.4/s
▸ Mana: 179.03, Regen: 12.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 85%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 41 Str / 82 Dex / 35 Int / 35 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 84% / 84% / 77% / 87% / 100% / 105%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 410
▸ Dodge Chance: 45% (0)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,236)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 100%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 4%

Used skills:

Shift / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Synchronized Strike / Shadow Cascade

[vernal cedar]

What order should I use them in

[atomic vapor]

Lightless chest

Big fan

[slate mulch]

need it for RR prob

[ivory sentinel]

yep fight is mostly about not getting left side screwed with lasers for last phase, I did screw some here and there, but mostly trying to put them top to botm so they dont go left

[slate mulch]

thats pretty doable gera too

gear

[atomic vapor]

Was it impossible to delay for a superheated black hole to clean up?

Or were you shooting for a good time

[slate mulch]

aside from the 4 lp mountain but i doubt 3 lp vs 4 makaes a big diff

[ivory sentinel]

wanted to use wall of nothing but I missed the slam on the only 2 lp I had

then yolo slammed 2lp core with a copy and got it

so I locked

[slate mulch]

can you still proc red rings with wall of nothing?

[atomic vapor]

I think the mountain chest is better

Wall of nothing too rng

I dislike it

[ivory sentinel]

yes I had like exactly 180 or 1-2 over with wall

[atomic vapor]

Swag

[ivory sentinel]

Im 0% dodge (glancing convert) so wall would be just random DR for me

kinda same as core proc

[mental patrol]

is the amulet buff a big deal for the build?

[ivory sentinel]

but not gonna lie I really liked core after I played with it, feel like it saved my ass bunch of times

[atomic vapor]

Post nerf nihilis works better for me

[mental patrol]

ok cool thats what i was using anyway

[atomic vapor]

Make sure you max feather fall

Kinda mandatory now

[mental patrol]

hmmm

[ivory sentinel]

4lp helm is super ez to farm with portal charms, I d say its the easiest part of good gear

[mental patrol]

what to drop for it

[ivory sentinel]

for me 3 lp traitors was actually the last piece to complete b4 kill

[atomic vapor]

It's the last big piece I'm missing for ooga booga umbral falc

I have the purple helm

[mental patrol]

running that atm testing around:

[atomic vapor]

But I'm so lazy

I need to lock in and spam lightless

[ivory sentinel]

I did it while watching the stream

[atomic vapor]

I'm gonna pull a fat playlist and turn brain off

[atomic vapor]

How come you're missing so many skill points

Are you running bow

[mental patrol]

thtas 27 pts

am i supposed to have more?

[atomic vapor]

Wait am I blind

No

Ok I found it

[mental patrol]

waws checking out flock of cros

[slate mulch]

Wait nihilis got changed?

[mental patrol]

*crows, pretty Wild stacking buff from it

[austere atlas]

i keep going oom with juse strikes build, and im not understanding how hes getting so much mana regen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr3VpMrnbKI&ab_channel=Juse

does anyone know this build well enough to know if its mana issues or mana management issues

[atomic vapor]

You're welcome for the mspaint level of minmaxing

[mental patrol]

chopped off some crucial paint eddits tho

[atomic vapor]

I hate my phone

Wait 😭

[mental patrol]

Copy

[atomic vapor]

I'm at 1min-1:20 with this setup and 2-3lps (1lp boots because I'm the unluckiest man on earth)

[vernal cedar]

Hmm Im getting 1 shot on my falconer build in 400 corrptuioin

corruption

is that normal

have 2346 hp

[mental patrol]

you using synch strike for uber or just staying umb

[atomic vapor]

Sync strike for everything, bossing and mapping

Just don't press it on white mons

Mobs*

Use it to pop nemesis, exile, champs

[mental patrol]

Aight

will test out ty

[atomic vapor]

Ofc

[vernal cedar]

Hmm

you think sync strike is bettter

for mapping too?

[atomic vapor]

It's better than speccing umbrals from all the testing I've done today

Alternatively wait for juse to cook

[vernal cedar]

I mean

I was talking to Juse

and he was saying this was better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGAR1AwfIeo

For mapping

and that the sync strike was better for bossing

[atomic vapor]

I don't see how speccing shadow daggers on umbrals is better personally. Maybe because he has giga gear?

It slowed me down

[vernal cedar]

Interesting

what corruptoin are you at

[atomic vapor]

1k steady

I don't raise it

[undone dune]

Shadow daggers is good to clean up white mobs with just AA and not have to wait for divebomb every pack

If you aren't pulling that off because of corruption level don't spec it

It's the other half of why the build recommends t7 flat phys and not t7 minion phys+bow

[atomic vapor]

Like I said, it might be a gear issue. I'm sitting at 186 dex so the first SD tick isn't enough to kill a rare for me personally. I'm close to fixing my boots so maybe pushing over 200 dex will make it more consistent

[undone dune]

I use umbrals for echos but my traitors tongues are flat phys + crit multi+ phys pen

Which builds into them way more than double flat

I also use a crit multi inheritance not a throwing damage one

[atomic vapor]

I've got double flat and pen on both of mine, and flat cold on one of them, but I have two spares with multi and pen but they lack flat. I do have two 3lp daggers unslammed so I might fix those with phys, multi and pen

[vernal cedar]

So whats the consensus

[undone dune]

I think phys+pen+minion melee might be better btw

[vernal cedar]

Sync Strike or Shadow daggers for echos

[undone dune]

Really depends on gear especially how much crit multi you have

[atomic vapor]

I'm sticking to sync because I don't have mana issues (nor do I like respeccing just for Uber), but ig do experiment given your current gear

Maybe when I get a 4lp peak and 2lp boots, SD will feel better

2.5-3 months to go right? I got this

[undone dune]

4lp peak isn't bad

2lp razors honestly harder

[atomic vapor]

I've got like 4 2lp razors with bad dex

Still on the grind

[undone dune]

I have 4 4lp peaks this cycle

All from echo mobs

[atomic vapor]

I didn't farm lightless at all I got lazy and I'd rather do it when my buds are up for it because they're willing to pass me it when it drops

[ivory sentinel]

srry I missed that one, yeah I was aiming to record a faster than average kill, even if a bit messy.

[atomic vapor]

So 3x loot when I grind for it

[atomic vapor]

It looks impressive imo

[ivory sentinel]

gear is somewhat insane, but I do like that with lp slam changes and imprints added even objectively not best builds can be pushed to do it.

[atomic vapor]

I think gear is at the point where it's actually fun to play

I quit season 1 because I couldn't be bothered

[ivory sentinel]

I come from poe so I like if there is reason and opportunity to grind.

[atomic vapor]

Grind was unbearable

Only thing that deters me from poe is the primitive trading

[ivory sentinel]

for me ssf is too grindy in poe

CoF in LE is a lot easier I can reasonably get stuff I need

[atomic vapor]

That too. It's grindier than LE's previous season which didn't even have an endgame

[ivory sentinel]

if try hard enough even unreasonable stuff 🙂

and for endgame surely they add more uber content in the future, its just matter of time to add that content.

high hopes.

[atomic vapor]

If the gear grind gets nerfed back to what it was, I probably won't play season 3. I'm not going back to what the game was

Idc what class gets nerfed. The system itself is too good and I don't wanna see it ruined

[undone dune]

I do kind of miss builds valuing non legendary items

Maybe if they made sets good or something

At least those are closer to crafted exalteds

[atomic vapor]

The biggest issue for me is that the champion affix is completely rng, some would synergize great with a set affix

[undone dune]

I'm not saying nerf any of the grind just make other gear look appealing

I agree champion affixes are not it

[atomic vapor]

Maybe the egg teasers mike put up hinted at crafting methods for the most rng parts currently

[ivory sentinel]

In my exp it just takes too much FP to get item into smth worthy

[atomic vapor]

Tbf imprint + refinement fixes that. You can take anything with horrid stats and refinement them into something workable, then reimprint and pray for the fp to go back up

[ivory sentinel]

like I ve dropped several t7 champion mods but they need to first happen on a good base and then I need to salvage it with the FP budget item has, with up to -20 a click it aint happening.

[vernal cedar]

So sync strike needs a lot of flat damage huh

[ivory sentinel]

For example for my cascade build I d love +1 shadow but I simply couldnt get any eternal gloves into a remotely close usable state, and why would I keep trying if Immortal VIse exists?

[atomic vapor]

I dropped that one champ affix on a scepter that converts bleed to ignite and it also came with t7 fire pen

But... How do you begin to use it

[vernal cedar]

https://youtu.be/HwtCjaavMFs?si=-6YMc1Nv1fbw_IAr

this is Juses build for sync strike, but it has so little HP so I’m not sure how you are supposed to do echoes with this

Trying to figure out a good build that will work really well for both Uber and echoes

@atomic vapor how much HP does your sync strike build have?

@undone dune any suggestions?

[atomic vapor]

3500, which is around what juse has in his bosser no?

That's not low for a falconer

Are you used to primalists or something

[vernal cedar]

I see 1400

[atomic vapor]

Which vid are you looking at

[vernal cedar]

On his

[undone dune]

I see 3500 in the planner

Can't watch the video right now

[atomic vapor]

I see 3500 in the uberroth kill as well

[vernal cedar]

Huh maybe im going crazy

And opened the wrong planner

Are you guys seeing that much in the planner for that particular video I just linked

[atomic vapor]

Did you by any chance open the 10k corruption burst build

That isn't for tankiness that's for taking things down before it takes him down

[vernal cedar]

Maybe Ill just do sync strike for everything too then?

[undone dune]

It works

[vernal cedar]

Not sure maybe

[atomic vapor]

Why not try both, skill respeccing is free

See what gives you faster clears

[vernal cedar]

Its just a pain to get the gear for both

Seems like the fixes are really different

Affixes*

[undone dune]

I Cast it about once every 4 seconds and on every rare with a woven mod

[vernal cedar]

And then you have to re-level the skills too

[undone dune]

Added a ton of damage to divebomb haven't tested it today

[undone dune]

This takes half of one echo at level 100

[vernal cedar]

The issues that I feel like I have to re-gear the whole character because the affixes are totally different and then I have to get new LP legendary items too

[undone dune]

It's only really weapons that change

[atomic vapor]

I wish I had one more skill point for dive bomb. I hate that I can't max out shadow falcons

[undone dune]

Maybe 1 helm mod

[undone dune]

Do you even have 5 shadows?

[atomic vapor]

The excess ones replace the ones that already took action no?

[vernal cedar]

Also, in terms of the skills with dive bomb, how do use them without interrupting each other?

Whats the optimal way to use the skills

[undone dune]

That node is limited by your number if currently spawned shadows when you divebomb

[vernal cedar]

Or like order?

[undone dune]

Hold down all 3 always

[atomic vapor]

Are you 100 % sure a fifth shadow is wasted because it certainly doesn't feel that way

I've tried back and forth so many times

[undone dune]

Either way CDR is even more important now right

[vernal cedar]

Including sync strike?

[atomic vapor]

Yeah that's my problem, I can't remove it from anywhere else

[undone dune]

No synch strike once every 4 seconds and spam on champs/bosses

And stand inside smoke bombs as much as possible

[vernal cedar]

Do you guys use ahk

For macros

[undone dune]

Nope numlock

[vernal cedar]

How do you utilize that

Im a noob

[undone dune]

AHK is way more convenient though

[vernal cedar]

I wonder if they ban for using AHK

[atomic vapor]

Time for a 3lp dex +4 dive bomb t7 health null portent

[undone dune]

Bind skills to numpad, hold buttons down and turn numlock off

[atomic vapor]

I got this, I've got until August

(also comes with 150% minion dmg)

...the more I think about it, the less stupid it sounds... I've got a triple t7 chest piece that I can just imprint and farm the hell out of lmao

[tough tiger]

You got the 3lp null portent already?

[elder condor]

Dive bomb got fixed???? Is the build gonna be significantly better??

I need rogue mains to confirm

[inner stone]

What's the current meta rogue build? Something with really good clear speed?

[vernal cedar]

Does the combination of flat damage for sync build matter

@undone dune Like if its lightning, cold, physical?

etc

[terse bloom]

You can generate 100+ dusk shroud stacks easily now lmao

[ivory sentinel]

idol with blade dmg per shroud maybe?

[undone dune]

I use flat phys + multi

Because you actually do attack so you can transfer multi to the bird

[austere beacon]

Does anyone have a free pair of razorfall boots that i can have ? i have two pair already but i guess because i farmed them on a main character i cant use them on my rogue ?

Guessing its because its rank 5 ?

[ivory sentinel]

check the faction. they might have faction tag, join same faction as your main I guess.

Idk about MG, for me it was a case with CoF, but the CoF lady greats you in first town and you join and thats it.

[austere beacon]

Life saver

[muted roost]

I’m level 76 is that too early to be worried about my build?

[terse bloom]

114 dusk

It has to be pure umbrals

[serene rune]

With talons or daggers?

Or just do you have a planner

[terse bloom]

Dags probs, 130 more crit multi off implicits and gotta test but comfy3k got to 10k corr with half as many shrouds

[teal matrix]

buy these while it last boissss xp

[serene rune]

Like actually spamming umbral blades instead of AA?

[terse bloom]

https://youtu.be/esB2xE51aDI?si=uTLJRRDyyMoL5oy2

[ebon gale]

Juse: They tried to nerf my build, and I took that personally.

[tough tiger]

The nerf is mainly featherfall. Now shadow falcons dont cast it so less crit multi armor shred.

Buff is shrouds stacks are now properly apply from shadow falcons.

Everyone is focusing on “does not scale with player stats” but theres no change. Nobody was speccing into bird aren’t real anyway

So spec out of those nodes and go pure umbral/shadow/midnight?

[vernal cedar]

So like what do you do, just let it spam all the skills and then you just sync striek every 4 seconds

all 3 skills right, you dont num lock the smoke cloud right?

[vernal cedar]

Hmm im getting 1 shot a lot at 1k corruption

Have 2300 health tho

[rough echo]

im late to the party cuz i just got home from work. is there a good planner for new umbral Blades or is it all just the same?

[jagged vale]

Haven't noticed a difference

[vernal cedar]

Gonna lose my mind with all the getting 1 shot

on sync strike right now

went down to 861 corruption

still getting blown up

[dreamy quail]

@terse bloom how is your build after the fix?

[rough echo]

Is the lizard boss setup still working for uber??

[teal matrix]

UB slapsssss

[terse bloom]

Haven’t tested yet

[ocean ember]

Do you use it yourself or from AA procks?

[plucky crow]

Just tested the sync strike build from juse (post patch, used it before also). Yes its slower and uber triggers his abilities more like Triple slam/ground slam. But still dies before the last Phase

The slower can be also gear related of course. But still uber kill no problem

[faint abyss]

My 3LP Reign of Winter missed my T6 crit multi 😢

[gentle kraken]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ryufrost/character/RyuFrostFalcon what am I doing wrong? dying at 850 corruption

but i can kill them

just survivability is an issue for me

[austere atlas]

is+throw dmg better than dex for 1LPs

sync strike build

[austere atlas]

is umbral blades better than sync strike build? or is this just testing

[south fog]

That's instead of sync strike? Could you show skills u put into it?

[tough tiger]

When the razorfall boots say “umbral blades cannot target the same enemy” where do the blades go?

Does it really stack 10x on the boss (with 200dex) cause according to the description it shouldn’t and i dont see it visually either

[rugged vapor]

hey heartseeker brothers, what build are u following as base?

seen lots of variants between fire and col and getting confused

[round depot]

Can u Post your Build ?

[ocean ember]

Everyone is sleeping

[austere atlas]

i noticed this build does not focus on critical strike avoidance, is there a reason for this? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj3xbWQ

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 3,510, Regen: 47.8/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 199 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 89% / 92% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2773)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,831)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Synchronized Strike / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[flint turret]

I personally recommend row with fire conversion for dragon fangs. Best mono clear, single target is pretty good too

Single can be better with cold res stacking or dragonsong, but that's not what you usually would want to do because it doesn't affect clear at all

[dull sequoia]

juse u still here ? after patch i saw a drastic damage fall off i still didnt beat uber aby to get the relic, on my attemps i would get his to 64% after his first pizza attacks now i barely get him to 80% threshold. any tips on what i should do? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/NedraRubio/character/NightStalker

[rugged vapor]

Any base build or guide?

[flint turret]

Dunno. It can vary a lot depending on a purpose. For example in monos running with wall, ward gen and ward thresh is good, while on Uber it's useless. I can give my planner if you want to tho

I started dying to one-shots from orobyss at around 1500 with it

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGlPZddo replace quiver with 3lp troaka or sanguine and bow with crit multi second affix

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (60) / Falconer (18)

General:

▸ Health: 2,877, Regen: 35/s
▸ Mana: 221.02, Regen: 13.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 129 Dex / 16 Int / 31 Att / 43 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 75% / 124% / 81% / 85% / 94% / 99%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 1,103
▸ Dodge Chance: 37% (1284)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (983)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 102%

Used skills:

Puncture / Umbral Blades / Heartseeker / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver

[spare folio]

is there any way to tell how much damage the burning daggers for heartseeker do?

[flint turret]

Hitting a dummy

[rugged vapor]

What's a good replace for the rings?

[flint turret]

Nomad/crab

[wicked osprey]

Juse I'm waiting for the update 😇

[rugged vapor]

Have u tried the ice version?

[flint turret]

Ice being what exactly?

If you meant frostbite then no, Im not a fan of dot in general

[rugged vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSUcoZe5oM8

like this i guess

[flint turret]

You mean using shift and bladeshield? I didn't like it

[elder condor]

How is dive bomb did it get buffed?

[spare folio]

where can i find a dummy

[flint turret]

Arena

[spare folio]

you need a key though, right?

[flint turret]

You don't

Its where the entrance is

[spare folio]

thanks

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QD64lqwo anyone have any advice on how to be tankier?

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 58

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Marksman (51)

General:

▸ Health: 1,151, Regen: 15.81/s
▸ Mana: 136.03, Regen: 15.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 25 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / 86% / 136% / 86% / 39% / 91% / 98%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 230
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (375)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (364)

Used skills:

Hail of Arrows / Smoke Bomb / Detonating Arrow / Decoy / Shift

[woeful hill]

what exactly does Null Portent do for you? you dont get close max damage reduction for any damage type.

wouldnt an exalted chest just be better? epecially with some nice implicits

[mossy nexus]

is a 4lp hell reach ever viable for an end game build? seems like it wouldnt be too bad for a dot build with atk speed and the pen?

[flint turret]

i was using it for uber, replace some idols with void res+phys res

and its much easier to get 1lp null\wall\core than a decent exalted

[woeful hill]

so basically just one shot protection for Uber Abby

fair enough

[flint turret]

and void dot mitigation

[woeful hill]

right

[flint turret]

for monos i prefered using wall

and some ward gen like elemental arows or ward on shadow

or both

[woeful hill]

how much ward do you get with that setup? roughly

[flint turret]

1.5k with only elemental arrows

[woeful hill]

thats ~50% ehp

pretty nice

[flint turret]

if you add ward on shadow or gambit it becomes pretty crazy

gambit especially

but capping crit would preferably need abby relic

ehich i didnt want to farm on my hs

[woeful hill]

seems the shadow generation route is pretty OP on HS, might need to switch to that too eventually

[flint turret]

its super good with phase point and weardf on shadow

[woeful hill]

still farming gear for the crit swap, currently sitting on a selfmade bleed HS

[flint turret]

i didnt have decent ones tho

[woeful hill]

once I get some Idols and some LP slams, I'll do the swap to crit fire with a Dragonsong until I have farmed some good uniques to slam and a GG 2LP Reign of Winter

[flint turret]

1lp reignn is much better than dragonsong for clear tho

[woeful hill]

Reign of Winter crit is fine for normal Abby, right?
Maybe I'll get it to Uber viable before the season ends

[flint turret]

its fine for uber too

"fine" being 7+ minute fight in a good gear

[woeful hill]

I will be farming a lot of Heorot, and I have almost a Tab of 0/1LP ones ready for Nemesis/turtle

[flint turret]

i stopped trying to get slammed 2lp

[woeful hill]

So at least a T7 crit/atk speed + another Affix should be ready soon

Dragonsong is still better for Single Target, right?

since it gets the +2 and the base crit

[flint turret]

i failed like 6 of 2lp and last time i turtled 2 full stash tabds of 1lp, then 20 nemesis towered them and got 0 of 2lp

[woeful hill]

Oof

[flint turret]

and i went with 3lp fury for uber

[woeful hill]

2 LP is one in 74, thats gonna take a while longer i fear

[flint turret]

on paper yes, in reality not really

[woeful hill]

is it better than Dragonsong?

[flint turret]

you will be missing a lot of proc from it due to wasd and blsck arrows gathering

[flint turret]

its faster... i wanted to get as much health on hit as possible

[woeful hill]

I'm playing without shadows at the moment, so i can just spam HS and thats it

[flint turret]

uber still requires a lot of movement

[woeful hill]

fair enough, but Uber is till miles away, currently sitting at 220 Corruption

still not CoF level 11 too

[flint turret]

then you only care about clearing and row is miles ahead

[woeful hill]

fair enough i guess

[flint turret]

i still recommend converting to fire even with row tho

free damage for puncture

and icicles

[woeful hill]

I still need 1LP Mourningfrost and an exalted relic to slam on my Sphere, and a slam onto my Pearls of the swine

And a T7 helmet to slam my Peak of the Mountain

[flint turret]

you can live without sphere, 1lp anchor is great too

since you wont match int=att anyway probably

[woeful hill]

I have the spehre already, I just dont have a Relic to slam (and no havocs to craft)

but that will all happen in due time, i just need more than 30 mins a day to play to make it happen

thanks for the tips though

[thick zenith]

Anyone have a planner that is downing UA in 40 seconds or under?

[dreamy quail]

Check Juse video. Last one i checked was 27 sec

[round depot]

Go soulfire a few times easy havoc made 50 yesreray

[proven hill]

Tested the Bow Dive Bomb build after the patch, we lost 30-40% dmg and gained capped dodge and glancing blow. That's a W in my book

[mental patrol]

thats with adding flock of crows right?

i couldnt get stacks up that high without those nodes

[vernal zealot]

i felt it was closer to 60-70% nerf with no changes but i was unoptimized gear

[wicked osprey]

I'll be waiting for an updated vid before I decide to play it.

[woeful hill]

what in soulfire drops havoc runes?

[rugged pollen]

For divebomb based build it's a nerf

But now you just go back to UB based damage

Ez game

With 100 shrouds UB you wont miss old dive

[proven hill]

Yeah it's with the dusk shroud nodes. I went from 3b to 1-2b dps on very high gear and from 500m to 300m with basic gear.

It's a ramping build, so it has it's own niche. Like killing Uberroth on low gear or killing bosses at GIGA high corruption

[thick zenith]

That was pre-patch tho

[pearl forge]

you can try swarmblade

you kill him while he spins the flail

kinda silly

[thick zenith]

What are you dropping for dusk shroud nodes?

[proven hill]

Depends on how many points you have in dive bomb

I dropped smoke bomb duration and cdr

[vernal zealot]

can you post planners?

[mental patrol]

kinda curioius ab this soulfire havoc strat too

[round depot]

choose runes and then double and triple chest and then alsways more % Drop easy done

[mental patrol]

that would be lightless arbor friend

[round depot]

haha true my bad just did a soulfire stuck in my head when i wrote

[mental patrol]

I even went and tested a soulfire run

and thought i was being a dumbdumb lol

[round depot]

XD omg im so sorry

im dumg

[mental patrol]

All good, i usually have rotten luck in lightless too

[proven hill]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/pm6yw05v#2

That's my planner for my Uberroth Speedrun. I won't have this many exalteds but I should still be able to push 300m DPS with it, even with less dexterity

[uneven meteor]

do you have planner for that UB? Just finished the campaign and want to decide build

[rugged pollen]

i dont, but there arent any secret tech or anything

razorfall + maxout all the dusk shroud gen nodes from dive bomb + AA

there you go

[uneven meteor]

hm, thx, will try correct maxroll build for that

[vernal zealot]

oh very diff gear wise compared to original variant right

[atomic vapor]

I've been considering going max phys pen idols as well for uberroth

will try it out later

can probably push under 1 min with sloppy gameplay

[thick zenith]

This is a speed running variant- the original gear is better

[vernal zealot]

yeah i only really wanted to use it for uber killing anyway

[atomic vapor]

I'm sticking with traitor sync for the rest of the season unless ehg hammers more stuff

[round depot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ juse on to something 🙂 build changed

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnDbxR0o

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (10) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (59)

General:

▸ Health: 2,538, Regen: 46.8/s
▸ Mana: 239.51, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 52%, Regen: 13/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 234 Dex / 26 Int / 26 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 80% / 80% / 91% / 171% / 98% / 103%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 508
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2747)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,135)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 16%

Used skills:

Aerial Assault / Dark Quiver / Dive Bomb / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb

[prisma marlin]

Looks like he’s going bow now

[undone dune]

I imagine helm is still wip

I did suspect talons would pull ahead

[prisma marlin]

Have you got a UA kill yet?

[undone dune]

No out of town till Saturday 😭

[round depot]

wouldnt be phase point good ?

[undone dune]

No

[round depot]

why ?

[atomic vapor]

never going talons personally

too much gambling for me

[undone dune]

Phase points damage per shroud does nothing

Neither does the shroud on dodge

[round depot]

no but i mean u get dusk on dodge

[atomic vapor]

I didn't check the build, does it take advantage of the triple digit shroud stacks

[round depot]

ok

[atomic vapor]

if yes, don't invest on it

it will most likely get fixed

[vernal zealot]

imagine

[prisma marlin]

I don’t think you need all the +skill levels for the build to be fully online, high skill levels are just polish

[atomic vapor]

it's a very very gamba item with high enough +skills and lp and finding a good quiver

maxed out high lp traitors are chill compared

and I personally don't care to make my uberroth kills 10sec faster or whatever

risking getting bugfixed

[prisma marlin]

Yeah quiver is a pain

[atomic vapor]

1-4 triple ranges imo is brutal

but maybe this is the filthy casual inner voice speaking

[prisma marlin]

It’s not too bad but I’ve never gotten one with +4 in all slots

[atomic vapor]

also 130% multi and 13% flat crit is too insane to pass up

traitors is such a good item design wise

[thick zenith]

What sync build would you use right now for UA?

[prisma marlin]

It’s odd but I prefer bow on range classes and daggers on melee

The daggers are definitely better

[atomic vapor]

I am using juse's sync pre nerf but with nihilis for max skills on divebomb for 4 falcons and max cdr/midnight aviary

[prisma marlin]

Traitors

[atomic vapor]

the change for me is nihilis

+skills gives me more compared to ww ammy

and I have a double t7 ww

I guess experiment what works best for you given your gear

my current best kill is 1:05 but i have a crap peak of the mountain and I'm also expecting a dex slam on boots very soon (got like 5 of them to slam and i have double t7 purples)

with my build and better gear i can easily go under one min

taking advantage of unintended dusk shroud scaling imo isn't the play

[thick zenith]

Is it bugged?

[atomic vapor]

i mean

[prisma marlin]

Do you see a lot of shattered worlds UA relic?

[atomic vapor]

unless you think 100+ stacks is balanced lol

[atomic vapor]

I got 3 tabs of bad ones for rerolling

so yes

[thick zenith]

Balanced and bugged are different tho

[atomic vapor]

I did say unintended

do you think it's excepmt from ehg's nerfhammer?

i do not

[prisma marlin]

Nice I got UA to 33% I just need to practice the phase with the 3rd harbinger more

[thick zenith]

You did you did. But unintended doesn’t mean bugged. I am sure there are a ton of unintended balance issues. Looking at a 6 second time rot UA kill for instance

[prisma marlin]

Killling UA in 1ish min is practically turning the fight into what normal aberroth was in season 1

[atomic vapor]

again, I'm not discussing how important a semantic is here nor am i telling people what to play

what I'm saying is

dont invest into dangerous territory

you will risk wasting your free time

[thick zenith]

I hear that

[atomic vapor]

otherwise, it's your character man

[prisma marlin]

I never went the full Juse route because I knew it was getting nerfed, I made the mistake season 1 when exploding ballista was nerfed. I went the lizard variant and have been very successful and the nerfs basically buffed lizards build

[atomic vapor]

I still think you should passively farm traitors

if you blast 1k, add a dagger rule

and spam ascendance

procced two 2lps like that