#🔪┃rogue

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daring yew
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Lightning chakram is giga chill. Probably my favorite rogue build

polar panther
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its running crazy smooth i still gotta get a few items but i ironically got all the drops for that exact build while on my starter lol

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i just appreciate how creative ehg is with their skills it feels really immersive compared to a lot of melee stuff

long pebble
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got my first one 😄

daring yew
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Huge gz

sage canyon
daring yew
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Uber flask kill heavybreathing

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Explosive trap tho

graceful hare
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Haha, no way ^^

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I'm more the kind of guy that doesn't make it with a Judgement Pala ^^

daring yew
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Same fr

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I like how it's an acid flask build but it's not even on your bar lol

graceful hare
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I'm ok when my builds do normal Abby, everything on top is bonus 🙂

daring yew
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Same. I have multiple characters that can do normal but haven't downed Uber yet

sage canyon
raven remnant
daring yew
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How does it feel in monos?

sage canyon
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shreds 1 k cor ez

raven remnant
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I always went traitors tongue

daring yew
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Nice

sage canyon
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so works for traps

raven remnant
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Oh true

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I never thought about that for some reason

sage canyon
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the aspirational version there is so much more dps when u get 2lp rings/gloves and uber relic

daring yew
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How effective is the heartseeker helmet?

sage canyon
raven remnant
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I made a falconer version of the build using falconry for mana recoup but the mm version is interesting

graceful hare
daring yew
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Yeah it's a neat idea

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I do have a 3lp heartseeker helm so I might give it a shot

sage canyon
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lol

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1 sec

graceful hare
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I'm just playing a Cinder Strike main, with Ravangers Dart as support, so main damage is Burning Daggers. A fun build so far

raven remnant
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But dragonsong might just be tech to get my build to sub 2m kill I'll try it out later

sage canyon
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dps is pretty insane kills dummy in 28 sec on no double t7/uber items

daring yew
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Damn

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I have a 4lp hail of arrows bleed quiver too

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Idk if that's relevant

sage canyon
sage canyon
raven remnant
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Idk we'll see once I test

slate mulch
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OK so for getting double t7s, the strat is to run conquered towers until i get any double exalts, then imprint those until i find the one i want with the correct affixes?

sage canyon
raven remnant
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And the flurry dmg%

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Falconry can solo sustain mana for 5 traps

sage canyon
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i should try 4-5 traps

raven remnant
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This is a clip of my build tho I think it's slightly outdated in the clip

sage canyon
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with birb thing

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cause u only get mana on kill in maps

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how important dive bomb on your setup? can i drop it

raven remnant
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I just didn't rly know what to put

sage canyon
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hahah

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😅

raven remnant
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Birds aren't real doesn't proc anything

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Which was the original idea

sage canyon
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im gonna try falconer with bow and swap dive bomb with flurry

raven remnant
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Yea it might be rly good

raven remnant
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If u have acid flask on ur bar

sage canyon
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MONKAAA

raven remnant
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And u hold explosive trap and acid flask same time

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With explosive trap on the left

sage canyon
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ye the prio

raven remnant
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If u don't have mana it instant throws elecoe and then u put mana on potion on belt

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Or

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U just take 1 point out to make it 4 traps and don't care

polar saddle
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Man i love heartseeker so much

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Honestly one of my favorite skills in any arpg, its so simpe but i like it

pearl forge
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yea hs seems cool

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wish it was not lvl 30 mm but 15 or less

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so i could offspec it and use the helmet

eager mason
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you just attack less

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and still everything dies

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dont have a mapping vid tho

sage canyon
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ya i saw your vid, insane gear POG

eager mason
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I was thinking about mm especially after seeing SMK's vid

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isnt it still gonna be less tanky

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and probably less damage

sage canyon
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i have 5k+ hp with your lvl gear so not less tanky

eager mason
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I guess you can click more attack speed too since you have a lot more mana

sage canyon
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ye ill test more with mm u can get 200% inc speed

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on op gear

eager mason
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I guess you dont get the 9% penalty on bow

pearl forge
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armor per dex is silly

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i hope all rogues had that

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also why the f the dex scaling on tree is on spear

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who uses that

eager mason
pearl forge
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imagine me i have 195

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and 3k armor

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xd+

hearty bison
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Is there any reason to go pass 100% recurve chance for heart seeker

next gale
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guys is there any elemental arrow marksman build ?

slim breach
peak ledge
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dumb question as im trying to do my own rogue build, does flat phys damage on a bow increase my bleed damage? i know % does but idk about flat.

pearl forge
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nope flat does nothing to dot

long pebble
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hello veryone, how u guys go about farming exalts with one or more T7s? Just buy prophecies of the item u want and run maps?

ivory sentinel
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nemesis

pearl forge
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do the amber farm

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then link 50 nemesis towers in a row

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that or go higher corruption

long pebble
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Then I try to get the base item I want and empower it?

pearl forge
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they begin dropping quite a bit more on 2k+

ivory sentinel
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what worked for me: farm a lot of memeory amber, buy conquered tower echoes and cook some of your items you need LP on, like some boss drops. very likely you will get some double(or better) t7s that way.

long pebble
ivory sentinel
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make sure you completed void nemesis echo once - defiled fortress.

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after you got your multi exalt item dont instantly craft on it, use weaver tree imprint system.

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can be time consuming and annoying but so far its the way to target farm.

long pebble
ivory sentinel
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yes

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it will start dropping you extra multi exalt of same type (maybe even better base or higher FP to re-imprint) and those extra copies you can craft(and fail a lot!) on.

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obviously if you do drop or luckily craft with low or no FP costs into mods that are desired, you now use that item as imprint

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mods do matter, but not as much as getting actually started with printing multi t7 items. Imprinting random 2 t7 is better than imprinting item with all right mods but highest t6

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assuming you play a lot, its kinda grindy process.

long pebble
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I see, will check my storage for some double exalts to start imprinting. Thank u for your patience and taking the time to help me out highfive

opaque mango
pearl forge
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if you are going strictly for more t7 and t6 in the same item yes

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rarity has kinda no cap

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but the idea is that you can farm it comfortably

opaque mango
pearl forge
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not this season i cba i still at like 1.1k

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i also dont play that much

sage canyon
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@raven remnant @eager mason optimized more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeG1FWijci8 3 min kill now on endgame no double t7 with health variant, ward variant is 3:30 but i get 1500 ward from amulet for more tankiness, probably better for corruption and no ward on uber

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the attack speed stacking is insane with uber relic u go almost 250% inc

sick ivy
sage canyon
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time to check his cook POG

thin quartz
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what explanation do you need. its broken

sage canyon
sage canyon
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i tried its getting way worse if i use even t5 afiix not t7 so no way i can sustain more traps sadly

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this is kill with cinder 2.5 min

vernal iron
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anyone doing bladedancer and using lirakas can give me a quick explanation on something?

foggy rapids
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I want a filter to ignore all exalts, except ones I specifically allow. I thought the follow filter set would work because the exalted items I want to see are higher up then the hide filter. It isn't working as expected though. The Hide All rule is being executed so it hides everything. Why given filters work from top down. Oh and how do I get it to hide what I don't want to see if I can't include exalted in a Hide all rule ?

bold brook
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this is part of my rules, and it works exactly how i want it to

foggy rapids
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Hmmm - at least that confirms I have things in the correct order. I'll run a few more echoes and see what they drop and compare it against what is supposed to be showing up. Hopefully as you say it's because the affixes aren't matching properly. That will, hopefully, be an easy fix

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I think it may be because I'm looking for 1 T7, so anything below that will not show up, even if it matches an affix I'm looking for. I will have to lower that a T6 instead , though as a level 11 in CoF I would expect to be seeing a lot more items with at least 1 T7

serene rune
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Does the maxroll falconer leveling build still work if I happen to already have a talons of valor from another character? Can I just run that instead of the melee weapons? Maybe noob question, never played rogue

bold brook
serene rune
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Sweet thank you.

foggy rapids
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How do you complete the Woven echo Oerden's Watch. The monsters in there are all on coke or something. Way too fast and hard hitting. It also takes forever to move the progress bar. Lost count how many times I've died there now

bold brook
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its a bit of an endurance check ya - if you want help i can help

foggy rapids
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It says champions prevent progress. I kill them and the bar still doesn't move 🤪
I'll give it one more shot. If I crash and burn I'll DM you with my character name

sick ivy
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bruh, now just need that 4lp exsang

pine hatch
pine hatch
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I think I won't go for dragonsong probably stick with my own setup,because I'm always aim for arena end cycle so yeh the extra one charge of smoke bomb is gonna help alot

sage canyon
pine hatch
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Yeh also I noticed you don't really go for dodge chance I think at one stage if you want to push corruption you will just keep dying

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But at 1000c it's just whatever

sage canyon
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plus this build offscreens 99% of enemies so its great for pushing

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i can try to put it on 10k cor with op gear

pine hatch
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Are you sure you are capped? Because I have 61% with T7 dodges plus blessing and with smoke shrouds it's only 71% max at 78-79%

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For mono it's okay you don't even need it if you play slow and smart

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But arena you can't

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I already did my homework at offline 5000c mono it's totally fine even shade

sage canyon
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for corruption and bosses my dodge is more than enough

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have u seen my hail of arrows? its like 3 min uber kill with budget gear and would rather play that on arena cause you can put 3-4 hails around and then just avoid everything

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if i were to play arena on flask i would try to get 250% inc attack speed and just pray that i have enough dmg to offscreen whatever comes at me

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plus silver shrouds

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and ideally mountain chest

pine hatch
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For arena I'm more confident because of every map I know where I should be at most of the time we will see maybe I fail in the end🤣

sage canyon
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they crazy buffed arena this patch

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mobs are so zoomy

sick ivy
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i've been playing lightning chakram bd with lowlife, but to me it seems falconer could be better for even that build lmao

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just instead of lowlife go life, that new pale ox armor seems very good.

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oh wait, the pale ox says downed and undamageable minions will be ignored. yea it would be stupid op for falconers if it worked xD

rugged pollen
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It has always been the case

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Even before death's door change

pine hatch
sage canyon
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🤔

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will test it never tried

pine hatch
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Because cinderstrike is combo

sage canyon
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hmm interesting, sounds great

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ill try

pine hatch
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Yeh it's crazy

sage canyon
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so to consume flow you need to throw trap->3x cinder?

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rinse and repeat to get 50 attack speed

pine hatch
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Yeh

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But mana drain too fast now

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🤣

sage canyon
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thats good

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cause more cinder stacks

pine hatch
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You gonna reach nearly 200

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Cuz you get frenzy from hs

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I cbf to press

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So

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I don't mind but It's a panic botton

sage canyon
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i numlocked HS

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and took cd node

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🤣

pine hatch
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👋

pine hatch
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Numlocked HS acidflask mm

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181% throw att speed

pine hatch
# sage canyon i numlocked HS

So after the new passive and numlock normal Abby kill time reduced from 25 to 15secs but with better gears or your setup I think 10secs can be done

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Peak dps I had was 4mill+

true chasm
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which ahk script is the most optimal to use for razorfall dive bomb ?

spare folio
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Marksman (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,082, Regen: 15.38/s
▸ Mana: 125.65, Regen: 12.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 9%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 12 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 114% / 86% / 150% / 107% / 80% / 81% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 216
▸ Dodge Chance: 15% (315)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 12% (187)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

pine hatch
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Byfar I have played blade dance acidflask also Falconer and this is the best out of all

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The clear speed is disgusting

rare haven
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u might be better of swapping skills not sure what build ur going for but HS dragonsong build uses shurkins and and cinderstirke and un talented decoy

sage canyon
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hahah im getting to 20 stacks

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thats 100% inc speed

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lololo ty for the upgrade

long pebble
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Hey guys, what other rogue build besides umbral blades falconer can go to 1k or 2k corruption?

sage canyon
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hail of arrows, acid flask marksman ez

long pebble
pine hatch
sage canyon
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im gonna practice see how uber kill on budget

pine hatch
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Also I'm using stealth and bee idol so mono seems alot better mobs has to focus my bees takes lot of pressure off now

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But I don't think U will go that far

rugged pollen
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new bug?

sage canyon
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not a bug

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it says stacks infinitely cause its for generating flow points not for flow amount

eager mason
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how is the time now misha

eager mason
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hs, ballista, shadow cascade, lethal mirage, multishot, bleed, umbral, acid flask, dive bomb, hoa

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chakram

long pebble
rugged pollen
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since for the AS it states every time you gain a flow stack, not based on the amount of flow stacks

sage canyon
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ya

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speeeed

sage canyon
eager mason
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yeah you should be able to remove some as and add more traps

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chakram mtx is so nice POG

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Im gaming

sage canyon
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2 min kille exaclty on budget from 2:30

sage canyon
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holy? its amazing

eager mason
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yeah holy

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is there more

sage canyon
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1:50 kill on final endgame setup, maybe ill test later with uber relic and double t7 items

pine hatch
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Feels like U can't keep up mana now

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😂

long pebble
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just got a reality check, was thinking of switching from umbral falconer to heartseeker MM, the cost of respec is 1M gold 💀

sage canyon
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and i tested on dummy the difference is huge its 40-50% more dps

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also i cant keep mana on purpose, i hold down both trap and cinder and que trap priority over cinder so i always spam traps untill oom then cinder then traps untill oom

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and so on

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so its maximizes dps

pine hatch
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Wait didn't you put on additional traps thrown before

sage canyon
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nope

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all previous vids were on 3 traps setup

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it wasnt worth untill cinder swap imo

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with cinder strike i think u always go 5 trap

pine hatch
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Yeh I just realised you didn't had them on

violet heath
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The combo also works for umbral blades and can get mana back from them if you didnt play on marksman. Mana warp is too OP to not though currently.

spare folio
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is this a huge mana hog?

sage canyon
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never tried tbh imo its a meme dps

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also HAIL enjoyer!

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😏

gentle lagoon
sage canyon
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not sure if itll be 100% accurate but should be close to good

gentle lagoon
sage canyon
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also dont forget to check the ward variant there its way better outside of uber fight

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i havent finished updating it yet but should be done in 1-2 days if u check again same link

mossy nexus
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Is the acid flask hs build also playable without numlock?

sage canyon
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so u just press it when cd is up

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priority goes from left to right on the skill bar

mossy nexus
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Ok ill check it out ty

sage canyon
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more comfy with numlock tho

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lol

mossy nexus
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when hs is on cooldown you press traps and cinder simultaneously?

eager mason
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what else do I click

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bladestorm or bleed thingy hmm

zenith rivet
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Does the Physical Penetration node on Shuriken get converted to Lighting if you fully convert the skills damage?

rugged pollen
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no

sage canyon
vernal iron
tacit mist
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I'm low-key pogging rn

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AAAAAAAA BUT WHYYY

tough viper
tacit mist
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strike 3

tough viper
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i been farming and all i got is afew 2 LP items for my class and I dont even dare to roll them T_T i cant even get a 3LP one..

tacit mist
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I just imprint them while being CoF and speedclear shrine echoes

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tho 3LPs are kinda rare

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so in case of getting 1 and 2 LPs I just collect a whole bunch and then turtle them

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most of these wait to be egged in nemesis

keen snow
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is it possible for me to reroll the +x to skill levels rolls

ivory sentinel
keen snow
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:deadge

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ill just slam this and pray ig?

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motherf-

ivory sentinel
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some brick from nemesis also works, you know if it hits 3 mod legendary, it counts as 3lp for reroll device.

tacit mist
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my suggestion would be hunting for a GG 2 LP

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and slamming with double T7

small glen
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Is it kinda ''normal'' for a Umbral Blades rogue to have about 2.3k health at lvl 96?
I don't know if it's the standard for the class cause maybe I'm too used to have a little over 4k on my Sentinel.

sage canyon
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Its kinda normal but also depends how you build a char, my marksman setups have 4k+ hp without crazy gear

true chasm
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hey! is there an ahk script that is the most optimal to use for razorfall dive bomb ?

sick ivy
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nice slam

keen snow
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how do i dodge this

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actually do i just watch a guide for abberoth

pearl forge
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at the beginning he moves to the middle and does a spinny move

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you have to be in melee then move away

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afterwards it is just a lot of frontals

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i liked learning the fight blind

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but yea only that one i always tell people because losing an eye for that is bs

keen snow
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i think im super undergeared for this

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yeah i need to learn the mechanics before i constantly die

small glen
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I died like, the first 5 or 6 tries before I started to understand what he was doing, then I got him.

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It's a mix of figuring out the mechanics and of course be minimally geared for it

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And I completely agree. Losing a key for each death is BS

small glen
# sage canyon Its kinda normal but also depends how you build a char, my marksman setups have...

Yeah, I'm still trying to ''min/max'' stuff, but building all the crit mult/crit chance and the throwing damage/speed (not to mention cap the resists) left me with close to no room to work on health/armor.
I was looking at some videos of the class and yeah, I saw they all are usually at that range of around 2.5k health so I think it's ok. Gonna find every possible little room to try and stick an increased health or something in there hehe. Thanks.

sick ivy
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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgbDv39Q i'm having trouble to decide what rings and belt i should go for? got 3lp traitor and 3lp lirakas, just need a decent exalteds for em. amulet can prolly upgrade to nihilis at some point, any other advices are welcome too currently doing 500c without too much of an issue. i dont know how to fit crit avoid/crit dmg reduction to the build, maybe dominance of the tundra?

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (59) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 4,292, Regen: 32/s
▸ Mana: 155.51, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 8%, Regen: 14/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 24 Dex / 4 Int / 4 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 83% / 77% / 79% / 101% / 76% / 93%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 858
▸ Dodge Chance: 35% (1234)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (541)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 41%

bitter mirage
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Is there a way to make Umbral Blades work as a self-cast main DPS skill? Can't find a guide on it

torn gyro
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Kestrel still BIS for a falconer?

wraith nacelle
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Its actually real lp3 is not just a myth, finally god dam

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now time to farm out 2 exalt prefix bows for weeks

terse bloom
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Bruh

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6s uberroth

wild harbor
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dex is the higher priority on that item uwu

pine hatch
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But still that's good shet

safe jetty
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just finished campaign, got a late start, went falconer like every other meta cuck, but no idea where to find updated builds and whats good atm for early game etc

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i see like 5 websites in the pin

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planning to start around this unless someone tells me otherwise

safe jetty
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uhoh

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im not sure what creators are reliable or where to find those guides

thin quartz
safe jetty
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last time i played falconer didnt exist yet lol

thin quartz
safe jetty
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not even 2^32 - 1 damage

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weak build

tall violet
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increased potion find on bosses, is it per hit or is it boss thresholds that drop potions?

safe jetty
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has to be based on threshholds, ive beaten the living shit out of bosses with a million papercuts and gotten 4

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maybe it makes more threshholds

pearl forge
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it also depends on how many pots you have left iirc

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the less you have the more pots drop

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vs max

safe jetty
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then either way it sounds like a pretty dogshit stat

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unless you got some niche interaction youre thinking about

tall violet
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my friend was looking at trying a potion build because there is an enchanted weave that gives up to a 5% chance to not consume the potion, x2 you can get it to 10

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i think he was looking at doing it with the acid flask throw thing, i dont really play rogue, was just inquiring for him

safe jetty
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i dont know for sure but based on how the pots drop it certainly seems like its threshhold based... my idiot guess is 100% more potion drops on boss just means theres 2x as many thressholds to do the drop check on

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otherwise any zdps build who attacked fast enough would be invincible

sick ivy
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wait shadows throw net?

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we need updated tooltip

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do shadows throw explosive trap aswell?

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oh yea they do

sage canyon
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@pine hatch tested this setup and it works, 4 min uber full tank https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/g27t1004 a bit meme but its capped block and full hp as endurance Melee marksman, you can make it ranged if you ditch cinder strike for umbral blades and just stay still for at least 1 stack of mountain

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or just spam net ez

pine hatch
sage canyon
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hopefully ya

pine hatch
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Also 3lp is really hard to get

sage canyon
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doubt itll be much more

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why do u need 3lp?

pine hatch
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I have a perfect amulet like T7 dodge t6cit and throw DMG and a fire resist

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🤣

sage canyon
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hahaah

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well gl lol

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build is playable ez with 1lp

pine hatch
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Yeh I know well gonna find out later

sage canyon
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i really like the block version now cause u dont really need cinder/flow tech outside of bosses

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and just being much tanky and spam feels good

pine hatch
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I Started with dual wielding but then I thought I'm playing MM right

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Now you want me to go for a sheild

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😆

sage canyon
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hahah its so good

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u can switch between melee and ranged generator depending where enemy is

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and net as ranged generator is amazing it has base attack speed 1.7 unlike most skills that have 1.4 base

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and it gives 20% speed and 10% more dmg

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the gearing is a bit pain on block ver tho if you dont have uber relic, if u have it its sooooo much easier

pine hatch
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Looks very interesting I have to test it out at offline

sage canyon
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i havent tested but there is also an idea to use umbral blades as generator instead of net

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cause its a combo skill, so its applies to flow and with mountain boots its 0 cost after 1 second

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ill test tomorrow it might mega overflow cause you combo throw with a throw skill

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😅

pine hatch
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For boss

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At mono it's about the same if U clear a pack of mobs

wild harbor
# sick ivy oh yea they do

ye altho most convert it to a bow skill so they can use the life gain on casting a bow skill passive in marksman

wild harbor
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cough cough chakram build forcing umbral blades to be support

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even tho UB is doing more dmg than chakram 90% of the time

remote sorrel
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New to the game, level ~54 rogue using the maxroll leveling build and wanting to do falconry for end game--is there any transitionary build or just swap to the end game one and hope efor the uniques when beginning whatever end game is?

upbeat cove
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Hi, what build and version do you recommend to kill and farm uberoth ?

tough viper
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Hi, wanna ask, is the chance to chill and slow% roll important? it looks kinda useless and bad to me but idk why this guy still uses this quiver... like wouldnt increase bow damage or something be a better roll? (he killed uber aberroth)

rugged vapor
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So

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What's the most op build in rogue?

thin quartz
tough viper
thin quartz
flint turret
tacit mist
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attempt 4

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fail nr 4

tough viper
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im surprised tho, why is dex higher priority compared to att spd?

tough viper
remote sorrel
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I'm getting up there in level (54) and wanted to know how to know what to do and when regarding end game; was following a maxroll leveling guide and wanting to probably do falconry end build

thin quartz
tacit mist
# remote sorrel I'm getting up there in level (54) and wanted to know how to know what to...

you just do monolyths and generate stability until you can do all quests that show up on the left when opening their timeline
last one will always be a boss and after defeating them you get a permanent buff

you progress through them in whatever pattern you want to, but it'd be probably best to next ones following the level of the timeline

I'd strongly recommend not going into falconer at all without getting some gear first

remote sorrel
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any buld guiude you recommend and what level to start doing it in the m ean time?

tacit mist
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I'd say bow*, gloves, boots and helmet are the absolute bare minimum

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I played Maxroll's Dragonsong Heartseeker until around 500-600 corruption on level 100 monos

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and used that to get to level 100 and to farm the gear

remote sorrel
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I'll figure out what that means i n a bit I imagine lol

vernal birch
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The triple t7's I get.... 😒

thin quartz
ivory sentinel
tough viper
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cos like rune of removal would be so risky there

thin quartz
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double exalt is easier to craft, triple is much much harder, and as for quad, just.... pray.

ivory sentinel
thin quartz
ivory sentinel
thin quartz
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example, if im playing physical crit bow, all i need it so seal the t3 bow damage and pray it goes thru. craft crit hybrid, havoc till i get 7 crit multi 7 crit hybrid 6 phy pen.
this exalted bow probably go well with multishot mm.

tough viper
thin quartz
tough viper
tough viper
ivory sentinel
ivory sentinel
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They will sometimes drop with very close mods, sometimes drop as same base, sometimes with nothing even close to what imprint is, but its a way to get atleast a constant double(or better) t7 bases to drop

thin quartz
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not as much as PoE. dont be discourage to learn crafting in LE. its actually really easy once you understand it

tough viper
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yeah but u cant imprint a sealed affix to a unique LP slot right?

thin quartz
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if i want to sealed it, means i want to take it away to make space for what i want. not to slam into unique

tough viper
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sooo is there a point to use glyph of despair instead of removal? if u r trying to imprint the exalted gear into the unique?

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Ooooooooooooooh okay i get it

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I was assuming the end goal was to slam anyways

thin quartz
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t1 t2 is quite easy to seal and its less risky than removal rune. t3 t4 is slightly harder.

tough viper
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how do u specify what to "seal" tho? i thought its rng?

ivory sentinel
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you click upgrade as if you wanted to lvl that affix up

tough viper
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ohhhh ok

ivory sentinel
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but instead of glyph of hope you use glyph of despair

thin quartz
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you get to choose what you want to seal. that is why sealing is more important than removal rune

tough viper
ivory sentinel
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it reliably seals t1 mods, but higher tiers can fail and just go up in tiers(not what you want), but well rng is rng

thin quartz
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again, youtube video on crafting in LE will teach you much much more

tough viper
thin quartz
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nice. now you just need to get some experience under your belt and craft along.

tough viper
thin quartz
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yes it matters but end of the day, RNG.

tough viper
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ah okay ty!

thin quartz
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lp2 RoW is easy to get.

ivory sentinel
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you can speed boss farming with glyph of envy, you also drop some from harbi kills alongside the boss.

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buy random crap from vendor and upgrade some of its affixes but using glyph of envy in place, it will randomise an item(that you dont care about) and grant you stability in the timeline, so you can chain farm a boss without several echoes in between.

thin quartz
tough viper
thin quartz
tough viper
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ah crap gimme like 5 mins im not in game yet

thin quartz
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ahh no worries.

ocean ember
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Dont you need market to party up?

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Merchants Guild

thin quartz
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you can read that in game.

ocean ember
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I thought if you pick cof you cant party, or I am completely wrong

thin quartz
tough viper
ocean ember
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Okay, thats new for me

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I have been soloing all the time

undone dune
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theres a solo character setting when you make the character

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but CoF is not that

thin quartz
tough viper
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im so srry D:

sage canyon
remote sorrel
tacit mist
remote sorrel
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any method to try to increase cahnces of getting it by farming those banish dudes or something?

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or j ust send it

tacit mist
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you can try using runes of ascendance on bows, you have around 9% chance for the falconer bow and over 11% on dragonsong for fire heartseeker on each

thin quartz
tough viper
tough viper
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trash 0 lp LOL

thin quartz
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pick up a good rolled RoW that i gifted all to you. and slam it with that bow. pick that exalted affix of course

tough viper
thin quartz
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with that new bow, you can look for better exalted bow to slam your lp2 for sure

tough viper
tough viper
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okay ty!

thin quartz
tough viper
spare folio
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Marksman (51)

General:

▸ Health: 1,151, Regen: 15.81/s
▸ Mana: 136.03, Regen: 15.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 25 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / 86% / 136% / 86% / 39% / 91% / 98%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 230
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (375)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (364)

spare folio
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i think i have too many points into wound maker

thin quartz
thin quartz
# tough viper ah okay...

wait.. i'll explain better.
the unique ring im using is basically a free lp4. pre slam, my exalted ring provides tons of res and extra damage. so i just slam it into the current unique ring which comes with +3 all stats for free.

tough viper
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but its cos u had a 4LP ring so u just used that? cos ur exalted ring was already good?

thin quartz
tough viper
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dang okay...

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cos i have that tongue ring, but its only 2LP =/ so probably not worth it i guess?

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I still cant seem to find a single red ring tho, been trying to farm it for afew days now D:

thin quartz
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either get a REALLY good exalted ring or just... use quicksilver if you want attack speed

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or crab ring if you dont evade much.

tough viper
thin quartz
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swiftness + 3-6 all stats

tough viper
thin quartz
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i only started using evade more cause of nihilis. or major boss fights

thin quartz
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i also notice your shift is shorter distance means lower cd as well.. so just spam it, no need for evade

fleet adder
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whats the difference between umbral blades and sync strike falconer?

remote sorrel
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Ironic lol

thin quartz
dreamy crypt
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Does anyone know if this ailment has any sort of cap? I can't find anything about it on LE tools

spare folio
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if i am converting heartseeker to fire, does the bleed stacks from this also convert to ignite?

dreamy crypt
sage canyon
bold mortar
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You using the new set helm affix for huge block effect?

sage canyon
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ye sitting on 3k

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with no double t7s etc

zenith silo
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (56) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,171, Regen: 44/s
▸ Mana: 218.8, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 56%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 23 Dex / 28 Int / 12 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 88% / 88% / 88% / 88% / 97% / 46% / 51%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 434
▸ Dodge Chance: 70% (3709)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (581)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 74%

flint turret
south fog
tacit mist
south fog
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yes

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i know my 1 sword is t7+t7 flat and arrmor pen, but second i need arrmor shred and blind

small glen
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Put a Red Ring into the nemesis and he returned it with + throwing attack. No dex, but I'm totally using it. Umbral blades

zenith silo
small glen
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Basically what he said was you're not geared/built properly to kill Uber Aberroth and even if you were, it wouldstill be very very difficult to kill him because of the chosen class/build.

flint turret
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in general id recoomend sticking to a life variant for uber abby

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leech is easier than sustaining ward

eager mason
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I mean you have a lot to go gearwise

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I would at least start by getting phys melee damage slams on daggers

cobalt mantle
ruby forum
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What's the consensus on bow choice for elemental Hail of Arrows?

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Ive seen it with both the cold bow and the fire bow

small meteor
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any build guides yet for spear falconer?

sage canyon
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also the HS buff +half of elemental arrows is fire so almost all dmg is fire, pen is way more valuable

wild harbor
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lol

sage canyon
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spam version is the best now and for it you need a lot of skill lvls +2 from nihi +4 from chest and +2 from amulet

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i havent seen anyone doing uber on cold version, fire does uber in 3:30 or faster on budget gear

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and old ver with 1 max hail is just not uber viable at all imo

small meteor
sage canyon
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someone killed? POG

ruby forum
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Okay wow good to know, thanks. What's the new spam version ability tree look like?

sage canyon
sage canyon
small meteor
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yeah somewhere i saw it ages ago

meager ice
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anyone experienced with zhp ballista

small meteor
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the thing is any uber run thats past 5min+ means the build is bad. just a good player behind it

meager ice
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if i want to use smoke bomb as my traversal skill and disable the movement on aerial assault

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will the tactician node stop working?

sage canyon
meager ice
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because i am not moving & hence not landing with aerial assault

sage canyon
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and that one is 10 min on cold version for sure not great

sage canyon
small meteor
small meteor
sage canyon
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i think for corruption cold is as good as fire cause both do amazing dmg for just mobs, but on uber u need all the multipliers. Here is my tree before uber relic, with uber relic u get either another 5% dmg or more duration/immobalize node

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on cold its hard to grab all highlighted nodes

flint turret
small meteor
flint turret
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Well, it was a row fire hs which was clearing pretty well 1-1.5k but I changed it a bit for Uber specifically, because my season goal was to kill Uber Abby with a crit hs

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I had to use 3lp gathering fury because in a 3+weeks I couldn't slam a single 2lp row

small meteor
flint turret
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8min to 4% is pretty good tho. It took me longer to kill

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If you got him to 4% in only 40 tries, he's pretty much dead if you practice a bit more

small meteor
short isle
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is this good guys ?

flint turret
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With the amount of health on hit I was getting I didn't have to worry about pools or beams, the only thing they do is lower my damage because I was getting to 40+ frailty stacks Bee

eager mason
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if its less than 3mins you probably didnt learn much

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the fight is about mostly having the left side clean and if there are any pools there cleansing them

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while placing lasers top and bottom

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at least for melee ofc you have more space if you are ranged

small meteor
ruby forum
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You've killed uber abberoth hundreds of times??

small meteor
ruby forum
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That's like 23 kills a day every day since release. Dang yo

small meteor
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tryhards be wilding

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pretty sure they got a race to 1k

ruby forum
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Giga chad shit

small meteor
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allergic to grass shit

ruby forum
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I probably haven't even done 800 echoes yet lmao

sage canyon
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idk alot of great builds have 5-8 min kills

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i wouldn say 5+ min=bad

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smite is a good example, the self cast version is pretty much immortal but lower dps so fight takes longer

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plus are we talking abt 5+ min on top gear or on realistic 1 t7 no 1/500+ items?

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cause even worse builds with insane gear can do it

austere beacon
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question why cant i use riverbend gloves ? said requires lvl 15 but im on 35

sick ivy
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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApjZdKLB i think i have plenty of dps already with my setup for uber aberroth but survivability is ass, i don't die to his autos unless he crits or hits multiple in a row. but one mistake and i'm dead. need some crit dmg reduction and slam that belt, it's 2lp

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (61) / Marksman (27) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,238, Regen: 36.48/s
▸ Mana: 140.51, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 60%, Regen: 28/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 20 Dex / 4 Int / 4 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 100% / 94% / 79% / 77% / 75% / 48%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 648
▸ Dodge Chance: 24% (819)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 11% (299)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

gentle kraken
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why does my umbral blade falconer doesn’t feel as great when it comes to climbing corruption? am I doing smth wrong with my build?

am currently following maxroll

vernal cedar
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what order should I be using them in

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Should I be spamming them or what should I be doing?

flint bough
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what corruption does a shadow cascade bladedancer usually get to?

slate mulch
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Can probably hit 2k

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It hit it last cycle

flint bough
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im at 1055 right now

pine hatch
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You probably can get alot more with red rings and new uber relic gloves

dull sequoia
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yo guys i got a question what should i first focus on the build from this point

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (12) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,468, Regen: 44.79/s
▸ Mana: 221.28, Regen: 13.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 151 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 53% / 82% / 82% / 102% / 67% / 65% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 22%, Threshold: 371
▸ Dodge Chance: 55% (2021)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (573)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 17%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 22%

dull sequoia
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im trying to beat uber abby

dull sequoia
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SO CLOSE yet so fa

naive rivet
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can i "trust" the dps tooltip for umbral blades?

wild harbor
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no

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well it depends on if your damage is coming from umbral blades or the shadow daggers it procs cuz those have their own tooltip inside the skill

naive rivet
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ah now it makes sense. I was wondering why i should use 2x kris. Now i get it. Thanks

wild harbor
safe jetty
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just starting echoes as a falconer, have like no legendaries... anyone got a decent setup to start with to climb?

spare folio
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does this apply to all recurves for your 3rd heartseeker?

spare folio
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thanks

flint turret
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Not worth the points tho

spare folio
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if you get +100% damage every 3rd attack, doesnt that mean you get +33% DPS with heartseeker?

ivory sentinel
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it is increased damage, that most endgame builds should have plenty of. Example: you have 1k increased damage, every third HS would deal 1.1k increased, so its only 10% more damage for that HS.

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you can roughly equal it to a passive that would say 7% increased damage per point, that isnt too much value. This node needs something like a combo that hits harder/special move on 3d attack and you always get bonus on that 3d move to make it worth it over other options.

pearl forge
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yea i have points there just to get to coated blades

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otherwise it is kinda weak even for a build like mine

static kestrel
sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (35) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (60) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,003, Regen: 44.25/s
▸ Mana: 160.66, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 108%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 39 Dex / 1 Int / 11 Att / 48 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 211% / 54% / 108% / 86% / 116% / 126%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 701
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (625)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (952)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

spare folio
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i thought it was multiplicative

spare folio
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yea but it says damage buff : 100%

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anyway, i will just respec i guess, thanks

ivory sentinel
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its not as bad, just count it as 7% increased damage for simplicity sake

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if nowhere to put points better its fine, but you got the idea.

static kestrel
small glen
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Man, I was thinking using 2 Atlaria in the build was kinda ''overkill'', not to mention very difficult/expensive. But man, now that I managed to get them... survivability went through the roof. I simply suddenly stopped dying .__.

daring yew
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Yeah they're pretty insane if you're a stat stacker

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Especially if you're able to get a 1lp with the t7 you want

flint turret
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In cof it's fairly easy tho

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I wouldn't even bother with using non lp rr tbh. While doing ring prophesies you will be getting 3lp nomads and 2-3lp crabs which are arguably better than non lp rr

red turtle
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so what is the best rogue build

serene rune
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Do the 1.2.5 divebomb nodes break or nerf umbral blades falconer or the bossing traps setup? I dont think they do but I dont fullt understand the build

signal escarp
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It does feel way weaker

serene rune
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That kinda blows. I just got it all setup

tender goblet
serene rune
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Thats a real kick in the nuts

raw zodiac
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does a non zhp ballista build exist? i love ballistas but sucks dying constantly

small glen
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From 8 billion available builds, I choose one that gets nerfed as soon as I finish properly gearing it. Great. Just great.

signal escarp
worn relic
wet bear
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so did they bonk falconer?

vernal zealot
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the cdr feels okay but the dmg has been gutted

ivory sentinel
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By gutted do you mean actually gutted(like 97% less) or nerfed but still enough for whole game, just not Uber on blue gear?

vernal zealot
wet bear
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you can not kill uber with any blue gear and you will never get that blue gear

ivory sentinel
vernal zealot
small glen
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Well, I was never intended to kill Uberroth with my Umbral anyways, so it seems this nerf is doing nothing to me.

Actually its doing good, cause my only other alt is exactly an Erasing Strike VK lol

wet bear
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wait but they did not nerf time rot vk?

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or am i missing something

ivory sentinel
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I wonder if they could change smth to bring very top end in line but not destroy early stages of the build

wet bear
small glen
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Idk, I see people saying ES is doing about double the damage it used to

edgy juniper
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the feather fall fix was very impactful because how umbral blades falc works is you stack as much feather fall as you possibly can to make explosions appear

ivory sentinel
edgy juniper
small glen
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Ah

vernal zealot
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yeah i meant that my erasing strike is about double the dmg of falc now

ivory sentinel
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And before the fix how it used to be?

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If ES stayed the same, was falconer same or a lot higher?

vernal zealot
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my umbral blades was like 5x the dmg lol

wet bear
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and some other nodes too

vernal zealot
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honestly feels somewhere around 70% nerf if i was gonna put a number on it

small glen
edgy juniper
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there's some discussions about using nihilis again

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just overall try to spec around not having shadow falcons i suppose

small glen
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Got it

edgy juniper
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tbh just reroll ES at this point

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i did

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about 2 weeks ago, tbf

wet bear
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es boring

small glen
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Already have a minimally decently geared ES. Seems like I'm going back to monofinger the game haha

edgy juniper
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not boring anymore when you do 2mil per hit with literally zero delay

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i hated umbral blades falc had a delay before damage came out

small glen
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But to be very honest, I was playing my falconer just for fun, farming low corruption timelines. Maybe, just maybe, I wont feel the nerf that much. At least not as much as a pro hardcore falconer will.

wet bear
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aight my half geared time rot vk is doing more dmg than my falc :

edgy juniper
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LMAO

safe jetty
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oh did they just patch?

edgy juniper
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yeah about an hour ago

safe jetty
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tl;dr? falconer still OP?

wet bear
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just took me 300 years to kill normal aberroth

vernal zealot
edgy juniper
vernal zealot
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LMAO

safe jetty
small glen
wet bear
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so sync strike prob doesnt work anymore?

south fog
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i tried uber, previously on really strong gear with 40s, right now i couldnt carry a dude feels like more than 2x less dmg

edgy juniper
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i mean ballista falc prolly still works great

wet bear
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i used to carry some randoms from chat too

safe jetty
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nerfing skills mid league in whats basically an SSF game feels weird

vernal zealot
south fog
vernal zealot
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i only had 1 point in featherfall though

wet bear
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nerf

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its a bug fix

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thats the difference

vernal zealot
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so if you were fully specced into featherfall it would of been more

safe jetty
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bad coding or unintended intreraction?

edgy juniper
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bad coding probably

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it's just doing what it totally should not have been doing

wet bear
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bugs happen

edgy juniper
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namely shadow falcons proccing feather fall

safe jetty
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got it

edgy juniper
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the serpent venom druid build looks promising anyone tried that

wet bear
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not a fan of druid

silent relic
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Just finished gearing ymbral blades falc too

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That’s sad

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I thought the bug fix changes that nerfed mid league wouldn’t happen

wet bear
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i will perhaps finish my vk and then roll a runemaster for fun

silent relic
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That’s why static orb was around for so long

edgy juniper
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yeah i've never played primalist builds before might as well try

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this chat is taking the fix way better than in-game chat

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my ig chat rn is boiling

safe jetty
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are there any powerleveling shortcuts/etc for alt characters? you used to be able to get to end of time at like lv 1 and get carried super fast

wet bear
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or get carried in empowereds

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go into a level 90 mono to get the completed quests

small glen
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One thing I learned from all game I've ever played is people tend to overreact nerfs. Like... ok, it can be a pretty nasty nerf, but people LOVE to say ''RIP [class]'', ''they deleted [class] from the game'' and etc.

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Its funny and dramatic

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And they get something to talk about

worn relic
wet bear
worn relic
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ah ok

wet bear
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you can go to every single mono and get the xp for the quest for completing it when u did it on another char

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idk if that is a bug tho

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idol slots and passives u just grab in act 9

worn relic
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you can get full passives and idol slots in only act 9?

edgy juniper
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yes and your faction and bonus attribute

undone dune
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So how much of a divebomb nerf is this exactly? Also if shadow falcons were using feathers I finally understand why I (wanted) throw damage on inheritance

wet bear
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What I do is

Do campaign till act 5, grab all the sidequests which give idol slots or passive points on the way
do sanctum when i hit act 5 city
go act 9 via sanctum skip and complete it

vernal zealot
slow sierra
worn relic
vernal zealot
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not an "over reaction" or "crying" i just spent like 20mins testing

prisma marlin
undone dune
edgy juniper
undone dune
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Might go back to talons + explosive trap launcher

edgy juniper
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nope that one's called featherstorm

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mb

undone dune
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Featherfall is basically just an extra full damage divebomb hit

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Which apparently we were getting 4 extra of and scaling it with avian arsenal

prisma marlin
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I’ll run some tests in 30mins before jumping to conclusions, these are major nerfs

undone dune
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Yeah I'm out of state till the weekend so I can't test my build until then

proud herald
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Ive not played at all this league, is the falconer thing really S tier like maxroll says it is? Umbral blades

undone dune
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Not anymore xdd

wet bear
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not anymore

proud herald
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Oh, what chnaged?

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changed even

wet bear
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Fixed a bug with Dive Bomb where Shadow Falcons would use Featherfall, despite Featherfall explicitly stating Shadow Falcons would not use it.

proud herald
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Oh it was entirely based around a bugged interaction and they changed it mid league?

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thats a choice :D

undone dune
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50%+ of the damage got removed by a bug fix

slow sierra
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Fixing the shadow shroud production might mean that there is UB build that focuses on UB explosions scaling with shroud stacks might be good

proud herald
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So now its just all warpath again?

undone dune
vernal zealot
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sentinel stonks

edgy juniper
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erasing strikes and time rot also works

undone dune
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Thats the thing

wet bear
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time to try uber

proud herald
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Side question - as I said ive not played since last league, should I pick the circle of fortune thing?

undone dune
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People were throwing random stats at the wall to see what did the most damage

edgy juniper
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yeah merchant is like 200mil for any decent gear

undone dune
edgy juniper
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i would not recommend if not rmting

proud herald
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Coolbeans, i dont wanna futs around with trading anyway, thanks

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I know im in the rogue channel, any recommended build that doesnt have many buttons? im lazy as shit

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Doesnt have to be rogue

edgy juniper
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warpath then

proud herald
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Fair, thanks

edgy juniper
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doesn't get much lazier than that

wet bear
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well yea

slow sierra
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erasing strike

wet bear
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i cant even get uberroth to 80% before the slam

edgy juniper
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kek

proud herald
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Ty for taking the time to answer, appreciate ya, time to play the game <3

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Oh its that recent huh? the channel is pretty calm for that hah

edgy juniper
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yeah it is

south fog
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i managed to kill aberoth cause i had top gear but its a joke dmg comparing to prenerf

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in my case i have like 2,5 less dmg

proud herald
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Any hope they revert it?

undone dune
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So 3 min kill instead of 45 seconds?

edgy juniper
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nope

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it's a bug fix not a nerf

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can't introduce bug intentionally

undone dune
small glen
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It was a fix of a bug most players didnt even know it was bugged haha

edgy juniper
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yeah but legal terms

proud herald
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Sometimes theres collateral dmg i can imagine theyre like ah shit

undone dune
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If enough people complain they might compensation buff divebomb

edgy juniper
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it's true

small glen
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Unlikely, but...

edgy juniper
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tbh i really think they should but idk how it can happen

undone dune
edgy juniper
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i mean they could have instead said "the tooltip was wrong" and fixed the tooltip as the fix but... eh

undone dune
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Not like there was a clear animation if any at all for shadow featherfall

edgy juniper
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falc animation is KEKW

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literally never see anything

small glen
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I had absolutely no idea it was bugged. I've read the node description and even remember thinking like 'damn, its a shame shadow parrots cant produce featherfall, would be great if they did''.

silent relic
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But why does this get whacked when there’s other bugged broken interactions

edgy juniper
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such as? i'm gonna try to avoid em

silent relic
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Last patch was static orb- I don’t have authority on other current stuff. I’m just annoyed because I JUST finished getting gear for talons ub falconer

edgy juniper
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i certainly hope there isnt more

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i guess if you still wanna stick with the falc you could still do ballista

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but you'd have to regear a bunch

silent relic
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Yeah I think I’d rather quit than refarm all my favor

edgy juniper
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oof

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i mean now that we have favor chests they're surprisingly fast to farm

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at least when you're not actively thinking about it

silent relic
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Maybe I’ll do a styg lich or something

slow sierra
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UB Flacon still seems good with the other bug fix you can get like 70 stacks of dusk shroud just more of your dmg will be in UB explosions

silent relic
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I guess if I was talons version instead of tongue shouldnet be so bad

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Oops

edgy juniper
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70 stacks of dusk shroud

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have i been playing wrong i always have like 20

slow sierra
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Yeah with flock of crows fix it works now

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It was bugged before

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patch fixed it

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to give stacks

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before fix you would get none

edgy juniper
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imma get on my falc and see if it works

silent relic
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Back to quitting despair lol

vernal zealot
slow sierra
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Flock of crows + Edge of Obscurity in UB now is a huge multiplier on UB

sick ivy
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Love to see it, instead of sub 1min uberroth its now almost ethical killtime with 2-3min

vernal zealot
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so swap back to umbral for dmg and remove explosive trap is the play?

sick ivy
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And chat is going wild

silent relic
slow sierra
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No keep explosions Just dmg moved out of dive bomb and into UB

vernal zealot
silent relic
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Oh ok so I might be fine- I’m blades specced

vernal zealot
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everybody who has said the fix hasnt changed too much has 3lp traitors lol

silent relic
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Won’t be able to test until I get home from gym

vernal zealot
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the gear is largely the same right?

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for traitor v talons

slow sierra
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I think dropping Blood roost gloves for throwing crit gloves might be the play

undone dune
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Talona doesn't use shadows damage that's about it

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So change helm (if 4lp) and idols

vernal zealot
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not sure if i should try and jank my falconer to traitors or just roll time rot

signal escarp
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We need Juse to save the build

vernal zealot
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im sure hes got some cooked iteractions yeah

silent relic
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If I was mostly UB with no trap it looks like i should be mostly be fine which is nice

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Too bad trap is less good- I love explosive trap blast rain. Single favorite skill

vernal zealot
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the most frustrating is i havent had daggers on my filter the entire time haha

undone dune
vernal zealot
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with traitors do i just need t7 melee phys

undone dune
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Don't go that build anymore

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Also probably t7 minion melee (suffix) better now

trail pumice
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what would be the better falcon build now since this patch?

undone dune
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I want to test talons stuff again

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Umbrals might actually do damage with dusk shroud stacking fixed

flint turret
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Wtf, they buffed umbral falconer with a bugfix???tom

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Why

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Just why

vernal zealot
edgy juniper
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i don't think that's what they did

flint turret
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would not provide stacks of Dusk Shroud when both Flock of Crows and Birds Aren’t Real were allocated.
Fixed a bug where the Shadow Falcons from On Wings of Shadow would not provide stacks of Dusk Shroud from Flock of Crows unless Birds Aren’t Real was also allocated.

trail pumice
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i currently play this build because its easier to gear for currently, what would i need to update since this patch

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 2,026, Regen: 39.4/s
▸ Mana: 232.75, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 20/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 198 Dex / 14 Int / 14 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 12% / 0% / 32% / 102% / 22% / 27%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 22%, Threshold: 405
▸ Dodge Chance: 39% (1381)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,631)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 35%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 43%

flint turret
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That's exactly what they did

vernal zealot
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yes then read the featherfall change

flint turret
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Who cares

edgy juniper
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tbh i didn't feel much of a difference my build still sucks

flint turret
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They buffed crit umbrals by a ton

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It will now get 200 Ds stacks instead of 50

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Because animation cancel will work

shadow vigil
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the umbral blades with talon is alright?

serene rune
vernal zealot
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talons and explosive is like 70% less dmg with my testing

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im speccing back into umbral and DS now

flint turret
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Literally no one: buff falconer!
Ehg: buffs falconer with a bugfix

vernal zealot
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to test

shadow vigil
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im running the maxroll variant and i dont feel any nerfs

undone dune
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Overall I think most falconer players will feel very nerfed but those few people blindly following maxroll will be buffed

flint turret
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How many dusk stacks you are getting now? 150? 200?

serene rune
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with very mediocre gear im getting into the 70s standing still

flint turret
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With valor?

serene rune
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let me go to arena and test rq

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to give you better answer. talons yes

flint turret
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Do you have birds not real?

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If you do remove them

serene rune
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yeah somewhere between 60-70. I dont have birds arent realand im using talons

vernal zealot
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jesus you must have good gear

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im mid 40s lol

trail pumice
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so are you guys doing lizards build for falcon on maxroll?

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (15) / Falconer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 1,770, Regen: 36.1/s
▸ Mana: 229.46, Regen: 14.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 42%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 188 Dex / 21 Int / 21 Att / 51 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 80% / 103% / 106% / 94% / 102% / 174%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 354
▸ Dodge Chance: 48% (1711)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 59% (3,955)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 119%

vernal zealot
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yeah we got pretty much same gear

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mine is a little better and i feel way lower than pre patch

serene rune
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im missing a t7 dex roll which would give me another blade but i also wasnt killing uber with this guy yet so i dont have a fantastic comparison

vernal zealot
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i could clear uber pre patch and now my erasing strike is better post

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traitors players seem to be okay, but every traitor player i spoke to has multi double t7 slams on everything lol

serene rune
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need Juse or someone way smarter than me to weigh in and tell me whats really happening

prisma marlin
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I just ran uber aberroth and was able to get to 64% the new bug fix looks like its not too big of nerf, but im also not running the Juse version of umbral falconer
I was able to clear 1k echo just fine

small glen
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I just realized I'm not feeling the nerf as much as most people are because I was always running a version of the build that had already UB specced, was already using Nihilis, etc...
I guess I wasn't running the Uberroth killer version of the build

vernal zealot
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i just wish i could speak to somebody who had just mid tier gear with traitors

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everybody being so hyperbolic

small glen
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I only have a question about the bow. Im using Talons of Valor. Considering the fix, should I keep it or swap to another one?

vernal zealot
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if you are dead set on playing id suggest following what @atomic vapor is doing

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he seems to be doing okay post patch

trail pumice
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what is his build grief?

vernal zealot
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not sure what else he has changed since

trail pumice
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okay, perfect thank you

atomic vapor
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I fully expect juse to release a minmaxed post nerf build so take it with a grain of salt

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can't guarantee it's optimized

trail pumice
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im just looking for something to vibe to right now and farm gear

atomic vapor
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but I murder uberroth with 2-3lp slams

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so if that sounds good enough, go for it

serene rune
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Is that sylvie planner more for mapping or for blasting ubberoth? or both

vernal zealot
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i just cant be bothered farming daggers that ive never had on my filter

serene rune
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They have super super high lp chance. lp2 is 1/11 you can get 2lp slams with 7/5 of that super super easy

small glen
serene rune
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maxroll build will shitstop 1000 corruption before that. im currently playing it at 1000 corruption

prisma marlin
vernal zealot
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ive got a few 3lps right now, i mean exalted bases

prisma marlin
vernal zealot
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yeah i just have no exalted bases hardly

atomic vapor
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for me, shadow daggers on umbral blades seem to ruin my dps

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and this crakned my dps up to 11

vernal zealot
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lol just took an item from 42fp>0fp the flip the t7s to prefixes

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had a spare so double t7 prefix with 18fp as a starting imprint if i was gonna do it

prisma marlin
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I think you'll want dancing shadows too, but i havent tested it

lusty birch
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so uhh what if im playing an older version of the build that doesn't use sync strike

verbal pier
lusty birch
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my uber dps feels like it's down like 50%

atomic vapor
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yes I have that too, I was focusing on the 5/5

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but I think max shadow falcons is better

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or seems to be better for me

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keep in mind I'm using daggers

vernal zealot
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can you show planner meru

verbal pier
lusty birch
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cus this version is severely nerfed

vernal zealot
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thats what im gonna try goal

bold mortar
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i have 125flat on both of my traitors am i cooked

small glen
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Me too. Im speccing UB instead of sync strike since the beginning. I'm strictly following the standard Maxroll build but I just realized most of the people were using a 'fancier' version.

And it looks like this fancier version got more affected by the fix than the 'standard'

vernal zealot
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the standard talons umbral blades felt trash when i tested

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by trash i mean like 2m dps lol

lusty birch
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no yeah im trying to farm uberroth and im down 50% dps im pretty sure

atomic vapor
atomic vapor