🔪┃rogue

[spring hound]

pd2 soon :c

But yeah theese games are not really competative, and dont need to be perfectly balanced or fair, if theres a uber race or something like it was now you can pick class for it

At least I personally dont have a huge issue wiht it.

[flint turret]

Waiting for your report

[slate mulch]

yeah, im doingnoffline for the 1st time so im blundering around with how to edit stuff but once i do ill lyk

it also seems like i still need to farm blessings and monos

which is pretty rip but lol

[flint turret]

Haven't done offline editing yet so I have no idea tbh

[slate mulch]

yeah im sure if i was code savvy i could actually edit things properly, but the current mod that seems to be mainly used is broken when it tries to edit stuff about monos/blessings

[pearl forge]

i also want to try a fulgurite and also event horizon

last time someone tried was in 1.1 i think

[spring hound]

and i'v been gone from LE for a long time, so im definitivly no expert on the game but as a newbi/returning i can tell you i had unexpected commitment and lots of fun playing cof /weave tree 😄

[slate mulch]

actually why not try event horizon lethal mirage for uber aberroth?

[pearl forge]

it was kinda silly

[slate mulch]

the damage is much higher right

[spring hound]

Balance is the last on my mind actually ;<

[pearl forge]

it is around 20 times higher yea

problem is

the slow is criminal

[slate mulch]

i remember you made a build about it a while back

[pearl forge]

no i never made an event horizon one

some other dude did

only ones i've done are fulgurite and BBC

[flint turret]

No wonder, cof is awesome

[slate mulch]

oh dang, i thought i saw you leaving a comment on a video saying you tried it out

[pearl forge]

you need some special gear kinda

double julra with phys the more phys neck

etc

also 2lp event horizons for some reason are gold cap

cant log in rn but im not wasting it

maybe offline mode yea

[slate mulch]

is there some other build using event horizon?

i did notice 2h mace slow chance prices go up

[red tusk]

Hi all, first time playing LE. Rolled Rogue: Falconry as my character. I, unable to read started with an endgame build off max roll. (Umbral blades falcon). I have completed Corrupt 100 and don’t have any damage issues for say, but am super squishy. Any quick resolves I can grind for?

[flint turret]

In 1.1 even horizon 1lp was basically free on mg

[red tusk]

I tend to get 1 shot by some creatures & if I stand still I tend to get wiped. I have 1600hp

[daring yew]

I like to have 2k+ before getting into empowered monos but idk how realistic that is for rogue. What's your glancing/dodge looking like rn

[flint turret]

Get more hp, cap res, endurance. Get some dodge and armor. Petty much like any character

[serene crane]

I havent even dropped 2lp Horizon yet... sure Im not farming that boss, but still... 😄

[pearl forge]

think like 2lp blade you get it mostly from nem/turtle

[serene crane]

meanwhile that staff stick from low life lich drops 2LP like crazy

[pearl forge]

base drop is so low

[daring yew]

I found 1 in many hours of farming that stupid dragon + harbi but failed the slam

[flint turret]

On mg a lot of people farming a dragon because it's the easiest boss and the relic it drops is great

[pearl forge]

so it is even weirder there are almost none 2lp

in the market

it is that rare i guess

[flint turret]

So ther le should be lots of even horizons

[pearl forge]

for some reason

there were like 7

last time i checked maybe there are more now

actually let me log in 1 sec before showering

[daring yew]

Because I really needed that extra stun chance :^)

[flint turret]

I guess it's used to kill Uber Abby by sent? Or who's buying all of them

[daring yew]

Need the t7 melee crit on my shield bash to scale his crit

[night spruce]

Developed a bit more on the concept https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owqW6J8Q

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (30) / Bladedancer (23) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 2,770, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 182%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 38 Dex / 13 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 311% / 92% / 65% / 76% / 112% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 970
▸ Dodge Chance: 32% (1105)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,106)
▸ Block Chance: 10%, Mitigation: 10% (76)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 102%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Acid Flask / Explosive Trap / Falconry / Aerial Assault / Synchronized Strike

[flint turret]

Ucenui where

[pearl forge]

there are 12 rn

and all of them with shit pen LMAO

someone did clean the market

oh also sold this

happy to help some bd

[night spruce]

Actually

fair point lmao

[pearl forge]

yea AHAHA highest event horizon has 58% pen

[night spruce]

Can actually go int=att here

[pearl forge]

so cooked

[night spruce]

Anything else? :p

[daring yew]

Buy the 2 cheapest, reroll and hit the perfect roll, put it back up for sale. Ez profit

[pearl forge]

back for sale is where it does not work

but you can buy more than 1 and reroll yes

maybe if anyone is farming uber and wants to do some silly things

not me

[wanton sable]

Can anyone explain the skills in this build? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj3xbWQ
I think when I did the ramping right when fighting an orobyss and then for some reason normal aberotth felt way longer than when I was doing umbral blades falconer maxroll guide.

I get going into smokebomb and spamming aerial assault and divebomb. When do I use falcon strike and synchronized strike?
Also, why does this build use fire/lightning/cold melee damage?

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 3,510, Regen: 47.8/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 199 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 89% / 92% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2773)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,831)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Synchronized Strike / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[flint turret]

Bleeding heart maybe

[night spruce]

With ward?

[flint turret]

Can't sell what has been already bought

[flint turret]

Its not ll so why not

[night spruce]

It is

[serene crane]

Self-using Puncture with hs really feels bad ngl... 😄

[flint turret]

What

ll without exang or steps is quite ambitious

[night spruce]

i guess ill throw in exsang

@flint turret acid flask pools. Yay or nay

[hybrid kernel]

is there any way to make shurikens inflict that shadow daggers debuff consistently like umbral blades is able to

[sick ivy]

snowblind synergizes well with shackles and snowdrifts and easy to get with 3lp

[night spruce]

Yup that's the plan

[sick ivy]

also instead of the increased armor blessing i would get the frostbite blessing

[night spruce]

Good call

Acid pool yay or nay?

Probably nay...

[sick ivy]

poison pool? seems good itself but the 5 points in hydrochloric acid don't seem worth imo

do they stack like smites fissure? i assume not, i would max out the amatoxic pools myself

[daring yew]

Oh didn't know that. I've never played mg before

[night spruce]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QDmgbbPB how's this looking

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (30) / Bladedancer (23) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 3,237, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 144.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 163%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 38 Dex / 5 Int / 7 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 305% / 90% / 64% / 65% / 101% / 64%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 1,133
▸ Dodge Chance: 27% (934)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (665)
▸ Block Chance: 10%, Mitigation: 10% (76)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 102%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Acid Flask / Explosive Trap / Falconry / Aerial Assault / Synchronized Strike

[night spruce]

as a plan

[night spruce]

i think they do but only up to 4

i thought that acid flask conversion did not work correctly hence all the changes this patch?

or was that already in and those were just tooltip changes?

[serene fern]

I know it’s weird but can someone please give me sone advice why my skills cannot be used as frequently as in the build on maxroll? I even struggle 100 corruption any boss, area clear is fine but skill cooldowns are not great https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3m0ZgJQ

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 83

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Marksman (15) / Falconer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 1,966, Regen: 24.84/s
▸ Mana: 132.89, Regen: 8.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 41/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 71 Dex / 8 Int / 15 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 58% / 76% / 47% / 34% / 15% / 19% / 24%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 393
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (481)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,252)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

Used skills:

Falconry / Aerial Assault / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Dive Bomb

[serene fern]

People saying that they are doing 600c on 86 level or so

[pearl forge]

you have 0 cdr bro

[serene fern]

Where should I get that affix? I mean which item group

I might try to get some from prophecies

[pearl forge]

belt boots for lp

and while you dont have good legendaries also on helmet rings and gloves have base types with cdr

iirc oracle gloves gorgoncoil helmet and opal rings

[serene fern]

Thank you so much!

[serene fern]

I feel like mg is better for alt gearing.. I dont know.. cof since release of the game but mg is tempting

[pearl forge]

havent played cof ever so idk

i do think it is better if you have time to farm

[serene fern]

Is it easy to get decent amount of gold from mg to buy mediocre items

[pearl forge]

you need knowledge

but it is not hard

likely there are like 100 guides out by now

i dont focus on making general guides but i did do one of how i made most of my gold

[serene fern]

Awesome mate thank you for the feedback!

[pearl forge]

cof is more enjoyable for most tho if you have time to play or like to do more than 1 char

[thin quartz]

i was placing woven and this shade spawn at where i am. unreal lmao

and now i have to complete another echo to place. god dammit

[alpine ginkgo]

Happened to me and I was mad

Waiting to see a HC Reddit post about this

[pearl forge]

will be silly

[thin quartz]

big boots

hit

[vivid ice]

amazing 🙂

[daring yew]

Wow

Why can't my slams hit like that

[thin quartz]

bow and relic left to upgrade.

i have it. just no base to slam yet

[thin quartz]

you have no idea my worse slam. my mental broke alittle after that

[daring yew]

Lol I can believe it

[thin quartz]

i failed this.

[daring yew]

Ooof

[slate mulch]

weird with peak of the mountain im still leeching on low life shuriken

not evne leech, i gaina bit of health each time i synch strike wo hitting anything

do not have any healing specced on synch strike

[wary cedar]

what game do you guys playt when you dont play le?

[slate mulch]

i used to play way too much d4 lol

[wary cedar]

dam

le is the only arpg i play/played

[thin quartz]

my current gear feels like offline mode. lmao

[slate mulch]

i pushed so much pit that i was #1 on the leaderboard for necro for 2 1 or 2 seasons

eventually i realized how insane of a slog it was and i dont think ill play it again

le is probably the best arpg to only play, it doesnt have insane knowledge burdens

its not as braindead as d4

the slog levels are not too far off ngl but theres more startegy and variety in farming atleast

[cedar sage]

The falcon does not benefit from Crit chance and crit multi from idols yeah?

[flint turret]

thoughts on mm chakram? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApyJpWdQ

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 98

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (40) / Bladedancer (29) / Marksman (31) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,784, Regen: 19.72/s
▸ Mana: 162.71, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 72%, Regen: 144/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 19 Dex / 0 Int / 0 Att / 0 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 89% / 73% / 70% / 59% / 67% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 557
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (978)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 9% (200)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Heartseeker / Synchronized Strike / Shift / Smoke Bomb

[slate mulch]

would you know what could potentially be causing life to go up in that shirken setup?

i have 60 crit with peak so it shouldnt be that

wait a second i think its skiasynthesis

[flint turret]

life on kill on idols

[slate mulch]

ah yeah

thats for sure it

[flint turret]

might want to replcae them with light penm

for monos

Or crit

Or small ones with ward ret+flat health

[cedar sage]

So i guess there is a point in choosing crit chance and crit multi stat as shadows benefit from it yeah?

[flint turret]

Shadows are you basically

[cedar sage]

cuz i have 4 idols with crit chance crit multi i was like i dont these enhancts

tthen i remember shadows

[raw zodiac]

Does anyone have a tankier version of the ballista build?

[wanton sable]

Can anyone explain the skills in this build? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj3xbWQ
I think when I did the ramping right when fighting an orobyss and then for some reason normal aberotth felt way longer than when I was doing umbral blades falconer maxroll guide.

I get going into smokebomb and spamming aerial assault and divebomb. When do I use falcon strike and synchronized strike?
Also, why does this build use fire/lightning/cold melee damage?

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 3,510, Regen: 47.8/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 199 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 89% / 92% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2773)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,831)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Synchronized Strike / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[undone dune]

cast smoke bomb ontop of the target, use synch strike every 4 seconds

thats really it

the other 3 skills should just be held down

down*

maybe link your own gear if you feel you arn't geting good damage out of it

oh also you need to be stnading inside of (ideal 2) smokebomb

[wanton sable]

I thought you're not supposed to hold down falcon strikes because it interrupts your divebomb spam?
How do I link my gear?
And why every 54 seconds for synch strike?

[undone dune]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ and just put in your character

thats the important part

you could spam it if you want but positioning is kind of important too

[wanton sable]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/LuckyNisp/character/CAW

This is my character. Any advice greatly apprecited 🙂

[undone dune]

I like to swap to at t7 dex null (still just 1lp) for bossing to hit the next dex breakpoint easy, i only really find i need the t7 health for echos

you need to move 1 more point to this because synch strike is generating a4th shadow for you

[wanton sable]

Oh damn thank you for catching that. That's a ton of damage.
Where do you think I should move damage point from?

Also why is it that we have melee cold/phys/fire/lightning in the build?

[undone dune]

also getting throwing damage on gloves/belt is a huge dps increase

[wanton sable]

Yeah I just missed the second slam on both of them 😦

[undone dune]

because the falcon just gets global damage as minion damage the damage type almost doesn't matter at all its not like you have any minon phys pen anywhere yet

t7 flat phys is technically better

but the element almost doesn't matter

also your neck is kind of meh

a random t7 throwing neck might be higher dps until you get an inheritance with any of: Throwing damage, crit multi, phys pen

[wanton sable]

So all the melee damage is just for the falcon. If I get phys pen, changing those elemental damages to phys is gonna be better?
Yeah I'm tryna farm for a better neck now. Hard with weaver will to luck out on good stats haha.

Is it better to naturally level the weaver item or craft level it? Does that make a difference?
Do you also know if I enter a tomb to do nemesis egg and tp out and back in to empower it and challenge it, does it make a difference on the outcome? Like is it worse chances to get LP on items if I do that versus finishing the echo and finding eggs in future echoes?

[slate mulch]

even offline mode is a grind

mods havent updated to support amber

so still have to regrind it

😭

i just want to bash my head against uber aberroth without any gearing friction

[night spruce]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QDmOa49B Is this roughly correct?

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 91

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (64) / Falconer (19)

General:

▸ Health: 3,634, Regen: 18.74/s
▸ Mana: 113.96, Regen: 19.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 36/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 23 Dex / 10 Int / 0 Att / 0 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 68% / 68% / 60% / 68% / 80% / 55%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 1,272
▸ Dodge Chance: 50% (1789)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,460)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 101%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 136%

Used skills:

Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Synchronized Strike / Net / Umbral Blades

[night spruce]

not so sold on the ward gain on shadow creation but eh

[potent arrow]

Shit, wanted to do offline as well, getting burned out from the grind

[cedar sage]

For shadow builds is it worth to get crit multi and increase physical damage blessings??

[gentle saffron]

Hey Rogues! I'm trying to find an old build, but I can't remember the name of it...

Basically you threw out traps that would explode, do you veterans know what build I'm talking about? and if "yes" What is it called and is it viable as of season 2?

[wide oar]

Jelkhors blast knife detonating arrow most likely

[cobalt mantle]

Probably either acid flask explosive trap or detonating arrow explosive trap. They both were nerfed so mana sustain is a lot harder, and the DA one got hit very hard with several nerfs and bug fixes on detonating arrow and Jelkhor's. Not sure about current day viability.

[gentle saffron]

Thank you both for the quick answers! I'm gonna have to just test it and see if it works or not 👍

[ebon jungle]

is this sum

[slate mulch]

The amber is the only tedious part so far, items can be generated to experiment with builds very easily and blessings can be easily farmed too. It seems that there’s a spawn amber tool being worked on atm as well

[glacial osprey]

im swapping to another class so id like to sell this

if anyone need it dm me

[thin quartz]

why would amber be important if you can generate item

[slate mulch]

to get to uebr aberroth you need to be able to upgrade weaver tree and get the echo

but i looked at the settings more and you can spawn woven echoes so its all good

i was just not looking too cloely lol

[undone dune]

why do you need to upgrade your weaver tree to get to uberoth? i thought base abberoth dropped the woven echo, and you just need to find a cemetery to put it in. I dont see how either of these things require a specific woven faction rank

[topaz agate]

hey guys, playing the maxroll heartseeker.

what would you all slam into a 3LP dragonsong?

[undone dune]

I think crit multi is better than extra attackspeed although that double t7 is so tempting

also I think fire pen is technically better than cold pen untill you hit 155 dex although its basically even before that

actually it might be lower than that for the dragonfire procs

because you only have like 95 added fire to spells....

i would probably use the 2nd bow and save the 1st for something else that wants the double attackspeed slam

[thin quartz]

i would like to convince you to switch to cold

[undone dune]

no such thing as cold HS, you just play fire with RoW

[robust carbon]

I am a bit confused about Shadow Daggers. Or rather two skills with it: Umbral Blades and synchronised strike.

Both put more stacks on the enemy than expected. Umbral blades put two on a direct hit and the strike up to 5 if hit by me and the two shadows. Dont understand why though

[undone dune]

for synch strike if you are dual wielding and spawn 2 shdows it should be 6 hits

for umbral blades... are you throwing more than 1 per click?

i think the default is more than 1

unless you talent it down

[topaz agate]

thanks appreciate the breakdown! this is very helpful ❤️

[topaz agate]

i turtled away a 2LP reign of winter by accident 😦

[robust carbon]

You have to go single Blade to apply Shadow Daggers

[undone dune]

oh true

[robust carbon]

So Dual wielding counts as two hits?

[undone dune]

depends on the skill

but afaik it does for synch strike

im sure one of the talents in umbral blades clearly explains the 2nd hit (and shadow daggers application) you are getting, either a shadow is also throwing one, or they are exploding and applying the debuff again

or something

[robust carbon]

But I always seem to apply 5 stacks, so it only counts as dual hit for the shadows maybe?

[robust carbon]

No shadows out (tried it in the arena for controlled environment) and with explosions its 3 stacks ^^

[undone dune]

🤔

[robust carbon]

So many options for a shadow dagger build now

[undone dune]

one idea i was trying to work with, is that the weaver weapon scissor something counts shadow dagger activations as using a throwing skill

so there might be some way of building a shadow daggers BD with that

[robust carbon]

Yeah but it is also kinda wasted on it as it gives a massive amount of crit chance which the daggers dont need

[undone dune]

it doens't give crit chance!

it says it does but it gives crit multi

if you put one on and attack a dummy then read the buff you can see

the buff on you clearly says +8% crit multi with next thrown atttack

[robust carbon]

When you use a throwing attack, consume all stacks of Kismet to gain +8% throwing critical strike chance and +8 throwing physical damage per stack

[undone dune]

thats what the weapon says

but the buff on you says multi

[robust carbon]

But it gives chance, like 99% sure. Tested it

[undone dune]

how can you see?

there is no throwing crit on character sheet

or are you just snappshotting the buff and looking for non-yellow numbers

[robust carbon]

From occasional crits to only crits

Consistently

[undone dune]

🤔

too good to be true

tooltip is wrong 😭

back to smokeweaver it is

[robust carbon]

Actually 64% crit multi is not thaaat much compared to what weapons can have as implicits even

Also you can never reach 8 stacks of it anyway in a Shadow Dagger build

[undone dune]

true

[robust carbon]

A weirder build I could see is a Ravagers Dart build with it

So many nice crits

[undone dune]

but would you use unspecced HS or would you play it as marksman not BD

[robust carbon]

But to really use that you would have to be Marksman which is kinda meh over all if you are not actually using a bow

[robust carbon]

Yeah exactly haha

Could use it unspecced to prog a lot of on crit effects

Like the healing on crit

Fun fact about that: Using the puncture prog node while wielding melee weapons still progs the bow version of puncture

[undone dune]

does hte bow version of puncture scale with melee damage?

thats such a strange edge case

flat melee damage*

[thin quartz]

fire AND cold.

my hs tooltip damage went up when i equip this bow.

[robust carbon]

Considering the extremely low damage numbers I saw, I would say no

[undone dune]

WTF is that thing

that bow is unethical

[thin quartz]

i have an even crazier one tbh.

[undone dune]

is it just imprints proccing?

i keep hearing people complain about them being nerfed

[thin quartz]

only bad players blames the system

[undone dune]

yeah but that one isn't on the best basetype

i guess its still amazing for slamming

[thin quartz]

oh you mean base. then yeah

that bow is perfect on its base type

[south fog]

Don't fk up and mirror him, there's a bug actually with it which cost me 1b gold. I would wait till the fix

[thin quartz]

??? what do you mean

[south fog]

If u mirror an Item some stats are alrd preselected with transfer not sure how it works but I got on 2 items exactly same bad stat

In last patch there was notification about it.

[undone dune]

im still confused

you mean like mirror before the slam will always select the same mods?

[south fog]

It's a bug that some stats are preselected not rng with transfer

Yeah but I don't know which ones

[undone dune]

that sounds like pure copium

[south fog]

U can read there's a bug with rune of creation that's all I know

[undone dune]

but rune of creation removes the FP

so it would only affect legendaries

and since its not on known issues illl place my money on they fixed that bug when they let us choose a stat to force

unless i completely missundertand you

[pearl forge]

it was about 2lp slams

seems creation with those chooses same mod or something

[undone dune]

ohh

[south fog]

Ah alright

Wasn't sure sorry

[undone dune]

if thats true that would explain why i miss so many double prefixes, because im only getting half the attempts i thought i was

[pearl forge]

i had been a victim of that too ehehe

[undone dune]

seems so strange for the RNG to be tied to the exalt and not hte unique

[pearl forge]

no idea how backend is done tbh and maybe it is fixed but i have like 6 black blades and 8 titan hearts

that got cooked

[undone dune]

i have like 8 3lp dragonsongs with 2x suffixes

[pearl forge]

in theory 3lp was not affected but didnt have enough data

[undone dune]

no wait 9

forgot the one im using

then again I used all my slam luck up on my falconer, hitting dex+cdr on razorfall first try

every other character this league has had shit luck

[flint turret]

I was noticing it too but I thought I'm just being unlucky when I failed 17 2lp slams in a row

I was mirroring all belts with 10% hybrid+res and getting same mods most of the time probably

And bows with 10% crit+multi

[undone dune]

that could be tech actually if it never hits hybrid+res you could force a 50/50 on a prefix like an expirment or throwing damage

[flint turret]

Why do you need ember for Uber Abby tho?

[flint turret]

I didn't need anything from pref on 2lp

[undone dune]

right you didn't

but one might

and you could force it to never pick the other suffix when you put cold res

[flint turret]

I even asked in dev, they said it's pure random, there are no restrictions on double suff or pref

But it wouldn't be the first time if he answer I got in ask dev turned out to be wrong so eh

[flint turret]

Its kinda funny tho how I hated the legendary system because I couldn't slam 1lp ever. Now it's usable for me but everyone slams 2-3 LPs with multi exalted while I can't slam 2lp with a simple t7t5. Oh well, it is what it is

[undone dune]

at least i got my 2 1lp red rings slamed before they fixed the drop rate of impirinted rings

[pearl forge]

i had very bad luck with 1lp back then

no i have very bad luck with 2lp and 3lp

but tbh apart from uber aberroth 1lp is enough

kinda

[flint turret]

I haven't gotten a single rr from imprinting it for 5 days. My only rrs came from prophecies (before imprint change)

[pearl forge]

almost have a whole tab of core of the cuckmountain

[undone dune]

i think in season 1.5 i went through 12 1lp julra rings before i got 2 t6+ dex rings to use with my BBoC build

[pearl forge]

i gave up on more RR

[undone dune]

and getting t6+dex specifically was way harder without the stat fixing echo

[pearl forge]

next mana or dot multi etc neck i get i will imprint instead

it is a bit sad knowing at least if you have a 2 lp there is no reason to creation

ye

[undone dune]

i had the same thing happen with a few 3lp uniques too

which are suppozedly not affected

so it might just be RNG

but it doens't sound like it

[pearl forge]

well for 2lp it cant be rng

as we have like 60 slams in a row

of same same

[undone dune]

EHG doesn't fix

[pearl forge]

should be reported already

[undone dune]

they just nerf/buff ot the point where people dont notice it anymore

[pearl forge]

but next time it happens remember to report anyway

[thin quartz]

You guys are causing big fear in me with lp3 bow slam.

When I failed the lp3 my mental broke.

[undone dune]

the first one is pure random

[flint turret]

This could have been an Uber Abby master plan all along. Because this thing when I failed 17 2lp slams in a row always made me quit because I just couldn't farm row anymore after I failed 5 2l slams, then turtled 2 stash tabs into 0lp and then 20 nemesis towered them into 0 2lp. And then I failed 12 2lp belts too

[thin quartz]

I already mirrored and failed once

[undone dune]

its the 2nd atempt from the rune of creation copy that is pre-deremtined (maybe)( )

just find a 4lp RoW

how hard can it be

[thin quartz]

Relax.

Then I’ll prove it to you guys in my next bow slam.

[undone dune]

they seed the RNG with some stat attached to the exalted item

which rune of creation coppies

[flint turret]

Tldr: never buy 0fp multi exalted items of mg, it has already likely failed a slam

[undone dune]

question on this not so random stuff btw. Did anyone ever claim glyph of insight was random?

or was it always known it was deterministic

[flint turret]

Not at first, no

[undone dune]

because thats another one that feels kind of similar to me

[thin quartz]

this is an easy throw away for me. but i dont have any lp3 boots to test.

[undone dune]

those boots being "throw away" is so crazy tbh

[thin quartz]

i already have my BiS boots triple exalt slam

[thin quartz]

here

this season with havoc and redemption, CoF is just the best to min max your gear.

no point checking, if its the easiest to drop, i would have it already.
the fact that i have mourning lp3 first as well when i was spamming boots unique proph.

[pearl forge]

yea not having to do dungeon and 1lp slam is so big

i would have quit too otherwise ahaha

but it can only get better

[thin quartz]

I was never CoF to begin with. I have my own methods to earn gold in MG. But when I saw what havoc and redemption can do. Jesus, I switched right away.

I have the woven tree node added

[undone dune]

were julra gloves sitll bugged in 1.0 or was that fixed by then

i played a really funny thorn totem build in 0.9 that abused that bug

[native oracle]

Is marksman fun to play? Im almost done leveling BM so i have think about the next chara

[pearl forge]

yea i rambled too last cycle about that https://youtu.be/-C84Tiws_0g it was painful because BBC was harder to farm and the ones i had i fumbled

then i didnt have it in me to keep going

[flint turret]

Heartseeker very much so

[native oracle]

Neat👍

[night spruce]

@flint turret Im trying to develop on the bladedancer sync strike net bleed build. not sure how important ward on shadow is tbh

what do you think about that mod

also hi 😄

[night spruce]

Also found I can use all my weavers gifts and kismet sword graveyard for this build

recycling!

[night spruce]

lol

since im using salt the wound i can actually parallel farm clotho's for the same purpose too

[topaz agate]

the maxroll guide shows i should have T7 crit avoidance for heartseeker.

do i really need to havoc it for a T7 crit avoidance?
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i mean if im already dodging, whats the point of crit avoidance

[pearl forge]

just dont get hit

that way you dont need to avoid crits

[night spruce]

the thing is there comes a time you eventually dont

but hey thats why they add dodge rating with crit avoid

[flint turret]

I think it's very powerful coupled with wall for example

[night spruce]

wall of nothing, you mean?

[flint turret]

You can just get 70% crit avoidance blessing

[night spruce]

yeah probably

[flint turret]

Most of res from all res is useless anyway

[topaz agate]

oh yes i didnt think of that

you are right!

[flint turret]

(unless you run null)

[night spruce]

unless

i have wall

[flint turret]

Yes

[night spruce]

theres not much point in running it otherwise no?

maybe run synchronized strike mana efficiency instead

[flint turret]

Wall+anchor+ravs is a stupid high amount of ward thresh

+can even get endu thresh bless for extra 140

[night spruce]

Ravs is which one?

[flint turret]

This becomes unkillable

Gloves

[night spruce]

ah

[flint turret]

Well you need at least some ward gen if you gonna run wall. I used elemental arrows on hs for example

[night spruce]

well im using salt the wound so no for the gloves at least

Ofc

[flint turret]

Without ward gen it doesn't make much sense over titan/null/core

[night spruce]

right

[night spruce]

I was talking about weaver's gifts, kismet's (which seem to give multi, not crit chance) and clotho's(with salt the wound) actually being valid bleed weapons

think they can compete with just straight up exalted katanas

and by compete i mean overtake

or maybe thorkefins

[flint turret]

I don't feel like kismet is useful at all

I'd use rainbow over it anyday

[night spruce]

+2 to melee helps a lot. vitality doesnt hurt, attack speeds great, gives tons of crit multi, whats not to like

[graceful hare]

Pillagers Gold has this line here, that would make me assume pairing it with Scavenger belt would be a good idea. But the belt does not seem to affect the Burning Daggers damage at all.
Any oversights from my side? Known Bug? What's happening here? 😄

[flint turret]

If you care about+2 then why not tongue

[flint turret]

Maybe a bug and most likely no one cares because burning daggers on hs just plain suck

[night spruce]

it being a dagger for the most part

[flint turret]

Have you tried it on dummy or how did you find out?

[graceful hare]

Me? I took the tooltip from Cinder Strikes Burning Daggers

[flint turret]

I see your point, but considering it's a ww gamble....

[night spruce]

the argument being, if you go for weaver spec, you can increase your chances by rolling between weavers gifts, clothos and kismet

2 of which are in one echo

[flint turret]

Tooltips lie a lot, better try it on a dummy

[graceful hare]

Yeah, was a good idea to confirm on a dummy, already was on the way 👍

[night spruce]

I got 2 t7 crit multi clothos, just no bleed chance on it sadly

[flint turret]

Bleed on weapons roll quite low

You mostly use body affix and idols for bleed with swords

[night spruce]

Yea thats another reason i was kinda trying to get rid of ward on shadow mod

it kinda competes with mana synchronized

and bleed sword

and even dmg sword or dmg shadows

but if its clothos

youd want bleed cause its only 1

[graceful hare]

Thanks for the hint. The tooltip lies more then I expected. It leaves out the flat from Pillagers completely.
219 dmg naked and 597 with the belt.

Should have asked the dummy right away. But I only knew the tooltip not being able to do the math so far, not completely ignoring such a bunch of flat damage 😄

[flint turret]

Can't say I'm surprised much tbh

[night spruce]

my weaver spec actually starting to pay off

now I can frenzy my decoy

[topaz agate]

just checking, does Bow Damage increase the overall damage of heartseeker?

[midnight zealot]

yes but not worth

[topaz agate]

we want like T7 Attack Speed, fire/cold spell damage yea?

and maybe dex

[midnight zealot]

t7 as/dex and some t6 resistances

(cold and phys)

[undone dune]

bow damage increases the damage of heartseeker but not its ailments or procs caused by it (dragonfire/icicle)

[glass stag]

Lightning chakram Uber. Anyone has a good build?

[topaz agate]

i understand, so Fire/ Cold spell damage is pretty good if playing Dragonsong + Mourningfrost combo right?

[undone dune]

not really spell

but fire/cold are good

[midnight zealot]

dex will scale more tho

[undone dune]

dex is better yes

if you are using mourningfrost

[topaz agate]

ahhh okay i saw maxroll listed Bow Fire / Bow Cold as the number 1 priority

then dex is a close 2nd

[midnight zealot]

Flat

dmg

[topaz agate]

yes the Flat Cold and Flat Fire bow damage

[undone dune]

you showed a with %increased bow damage

that is not flat

[midnight zealot]

but i would still go for dex over flat dmg to be honest

[topaz agate]

oh yes my bad. i wasnt referring to this.

in general stat priority

[undone dune]

1 dex is 1 flat damage to attacks+spells so use whatever is higher i guess

but flat damage to attack/spell is not an easy stat to find

[topaz agate]

if i get lucky on my 2lp troakas ill definitely want dex + T7 IAS on it

[undone dune]

this list does specify you want damage while wielding a bow and not %bow damage

[midnight zealot]

3lps are kinda easy yo get

[undone dune]

because damgae while wileding a bow is a global increase and works on your procs

[midnight zealot]

don't slam a really good base on a 2lp

[topaz agate]

i didnt realize dex was good, so i just slammed the best i could find

[midnight zealot]

it's really easy to get in fact lol

[topaz agate]

not sure if i messed it up

[undone dune]

that is useable

[midnight zealot]

it's ok for now

x)

[topaz agate]

so you guys were saying the Bow Fire Damage scales the build right?

just not as much as Dexterity

[undone dune]

TBH i have bow atackspeed+phys res+coldres on my quiver and I llike it

[undone dune]

are you RoW?

[midnight zealot]

he is dragonsong

[undone dune]

oh

[topaz agate]

i am dragon song

[undone dune]

it depends how often you stand in melee

[topaz agate]

the fire version

[undone dune]

and use the proc

i play fire RoW

[topaz agate]

my dex is 100 now

[midnight zealot]

you should spec into some shadows tho

it will increase your dps

[topaz agate]

i kinda like standing in melee

[midnight zealot]

by alot already

[topaz agate]

where can i spec into shadows for heartseeker?

[undone dune]

if you are basically always in melee then dex is significantly better than flat damage

[midnight zealot]

gloomneedle

and then smoke bomb

[undone dune]

left of the duskshroud node

or sorry right of it

[topaz agate]

this is my gear

whats a gloom needle

[midnight zealot]

left nodes

[topaz agate]

OH I SEE IT

[midnight zealot]

and spec into umbral assault with smoke bomb

[topaz agate]

which points should i drop for that

[undone dune]

oh easy drop burning daggers and the mana generation

its such a trap

[topaz agate]

oh burning daggers suck? im using cinder strikes to buff it according to maxroll

[undone dune]

yeah

but its so minor

even with the +80 flat throwing fire damage

[topaz agate]

should i swap cinder strike out for something else then

[undone dune]

yeah

either go the puncture variant and spec puncture

[topaz agate]

any suggestions?

[undone dune]

or go dark arrow

for more shadows

[midnight zealot]

i tried dark arrow

tbh that's not worth

at all

[topaz agate]

oh so go with pucture?

[midnight zealot]

just spec into a decoy

[undone dune]

can also just go umbral blades

if you are using shadows

[topaz agate]

decoy is a safe choice

[undone dune]

it just procs random extra damage

[midnight zealot]

good for mono target yeah

[undone dune]

if you find you are never using decoy

[topaz agate]

ahhh gotcha, but i played falconer so im kinda sick of umbral blades haha!

wanted to try someting new

[midnight zealot]

decoy gonna be used for mono target too actually

so yeah

[undone dune]

well the umbral blades woulnd't be a huge part of the build

just a tiny bit of incidental damage

probably compareable to the damgae of the burning daggers tbh

it all depends on how often you actually use the decoy

[midnight zealot]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/0n6h50jt

here is what i'm doing atm

still haven't everything online

but i tried it offline before aiming for that online

[topaz agate]

cool valentin, tyty ill check it out

[midnight zealot]

and i killed uberroth easily with it

[topaz agate]

im dragonsong version though

[midnight zealot]

yeah i know

but just to take some ideas maybe

[topaz agate]

you feel shadows does alot of damage?

[undone dune]

I tried this, but i just gave up all the coldres scalaing and use RoW with the fire talents in HS

[midnight zealot]

yeah shadows are needed

for higher corruption

[undone dune]

dragonfang's +80 flat damage goes so hard

even with RoW

[midnight zealot]

i still haven't tested like this

[thin quartz]

how high for shadows to be needed

[undone dune]

it seems you have 400 cold res on gear which means the cold pen is actually valuable

[topaz agate]

just to check - this idol any good?

the increased damage while wielding bow

for heartseeker at least

[undone dune]

need to replace enchant

but thats what you want

2 of thoes and 1 heartseeker recurve idols generally

[midnight zealot]

when i tested it offline i was able to get to 2k5 corruption, but still were being one shoted sometimes, but having shadows helped me to insta kill some tankier mobs, haven't tried without these after pushing to 1k5 corruption

[topaz agate]

ahhh okay. i want the critical strike chance enchant right?

[midnight zealot]

(im currently at 1.5k online, still not able to go really higher than that with my current online gear)

[thin quartz]

okay but what's the point of going above 1k.

[undone dune]

personal pride? there isn't even really a point in getting to 1k

[topaz agate]

oh you dont run shift?

[midnight zealot]

no

[undone dune]

i actually find my sweetspot for farming is like 700

[midnight zealot]

i'm using smoke bomb for movement skill

there is alot more loot actually

[undone dune]

are you MG?

[midnight zealot]

and i would say 1k to 1150 is the sweet spot for heartseeker

yes

[undone dune]

i can see that

i feel like CoF has enough loot at a slighly lower corruption

[topaz agate]

valentin what is puncture used mostly for?

[midnight zealot]

clear

it doesn't proc on mono target

[thin quartz]

then what's the point of running shadow. im always confused by your logic

[undone dune]

you dont cast puncture

you just let HS proc it

[topaz agate]

ahhh okay, so i guess i should despecialize out of cinder strikes then

[midnight zealot]

to get more damage if you want to push or to kill bosses faster maybe ?

[thin quartz]

1k corruption is the sweet spot for everything if you can do it smoothly and zooming

[midnight zealot]

yeah but as i said i'm trying to push for more, and it helps with time to kill on some bosses that have more hp

[topaz agate]

the build you shared, is it good for clearing echos too? or mainly single target

cause im like 300 corruption lol

[midnight zealot]

good for echoes

even without the same gear you should be able to get to 1500

[thin quartz]

i see

[midnight zealot]

i mean with lp2s instead of 3

[topaz agate]

oh wow , dragonsong can go so high?

[midnight zealot]

for the bow at 2lps it's better to go for AS Crit/Cold pen first

i saw some dragonsong doing it yeah

i'm just not a fan of the dragon breath

[vivid ice]

Its not my build, but its intresting how % dps it can give if just 1 small idol can give 30%

[topaz agate]

gotcha, ill give it a go with your build. !

time to respec out of cinder strikes

[flint turret]

Bro, endurance where

[midnight zealot]

past 1500 corruption it wont change alot, you'll get one shotted anyway x)

but if you want to cap your endurance go back to brewmasters belt and take endurance in your blessings

[flint turret]

You are using ravs to get 15% reduction while not capping endurance and loosing 25% reduction

[midnight zealot]

you're right, i was using immortal vise, just tried some things with ravenous voids and forgot to swap back

[flint turret]

But vise doesn't cap endurance either

[midnight zealot]

i know

don't wanted endurance cap

i was just using them to avoid some one shots at first but, to avoid these you need around 4k life when endurance capped

so it would mean to have lp3s/4 with increased health on all gear

and rr with flat health at lp2

wasn't really going for taht x)

hard to get as mg

[flint turret]

I just asked why you don't want to cap endurance, that's all

[midnight zealot]

as i said, cause i was endurance capped at first to avoid one shots, but past 1.5k corruption

i'm not able to avoid one shots without much more hp

[flint turret]

So you had 25% reduction from endurance, removed endurance, lost reduction, started to get one-shotted and decided that its not needed, am I reading that correct?

[midnight zealot]

not at all

[slate mulch]

I finished setting up the low life shield build to try on uber

[midnight zealot]

i was endurance capped but still were getting one shotted

cause not enough hp

so i got rid of it

[topaz agate]

does taking this skill stop my heartseeker from recurving?

i dont really understand what it does

[flint turret]

To get one-shotted even more? I'm still failing to understand

[slate mulch]

I put all gear roll ranges at 60% instead of like 100 to be somewhat potentially representative of a real build from a hardcore grinder and the resistances actually overcap a little

[topaz agate]

is shurikens any good for the heartseeker build?

[flint turret]

It stops fs from changing targets

[topaz agate]

oh so heartseeker will hit the same target until it dies? with the "Exposed" node?

[undone dune]

well till the target dies or it runs out of recurves

[flint turret]

Which setup? Dual or shield?

[topaz agate]

ahhh okay got it. Kezic u running shurikens ?

[undone dune]

no

[midnight zealot]

if you're using shift for some dr yeah, other than that not really

[undone dune]

shurikens are a good way to get %armor bonus if you are using shift

but i just use smokebomb as my moveskill

[flint turret]

Heartseeker is doing that regardless of any nodes. The only difference is after target dies. It can fly to another target or not

[topaz agate]

ahhh got it! so i just need to press heartseeker again then

[undone dune]

the punctures do a really good job of clearing

[topaz agate]

thanks kezic and valentin, maybe i switch to Smoke Bomb as my mobility skill

and drop shift for decoy

do i really need to take umbral blades? is there any other skills instead

[midnight zealot]

dark quiver

but i'm not a big fan of going to walk on arrows etc

[undone dune]

kind of hard to avoid umbral blades as a rogue

its hard to pass up free damage that just happens

[topaz agate]

how does umbral blades buff heartseeker though?

[flint turret]

Dunno how anyone can not like dark quiver on hs, it solves most of survivability by itself

[undone dune]

mourningforst and dragonfang buff umbral blades (throwing) damage

so when you consume shadows umbral blades just throws random blades out

which add random damage

[topaz agate]

how should i spec dark quiver on HS?

i love umbral blades, but been playing it so much on falconer

so wanted to try something unique

even if i do lose a little damage

[undone dune]

dark quiver is very good beut requries you to play into it

decoy is similar in that its super useful if you are actually constantly using them

[flint turret]

With phase point it doesn't

[undone dune]

ok fair

but i think he is not using phase point

becuase he linked his gear earlier

[topaz agate]

ya im running Troaka's Teeth

i could go umbral blades i suppose lol

[flint turret]

either this without phase

or this with phase

[topaz agate]

nice tyvm ragu!

[flint turret]

can drop some points of until down too

3\5 is fine

and get crimsons without phase too

[night spruce]

Oh and

there's another reason i wanted to try kismet @flint turret

it allows me to spec into bleed consume

[flint turret]

how and why

[night spruce]

its a bleed build so why not spec into consume

and get sustain while at it

its net proccing puncture sooo

[flint turret]

what does kismet have to do with it

[night spruce]

punctures a melee skill

gives you the points to reach it 😄

gives you points to reach efficacious toxin too

can even go

sanguine Obsession

allowing you to leverage poison chance on tree

[flint turret]

so you wanna be spamming nets and occasional puncture?

i dont really get the need of kismet

[night spruce]

nets proccing puncture, puncture mostly for mana restoration every 4 sec or so for the burst

well

[flint turret]

and if its a bleed build why not weaver gift

[night spruce]

weavers gift is solid too. But Levels are useful

[flint turret]

what amulet are you using?

[night spruce]

i lucked into this for now.

i only just started the char today

[flint turret]

lowlife?

[night spruce]

Umm

Not yet.

should it be?

[flint turret]

how do you sustain then

[night spruce]

sustain health?

[flint turret]

yes

[night spruce]

valdyrs

and shadow creation

[flint turret]

i see

[night spruce]

i swapped from ward creation to mana efficiency for synch strike

feels much better already

I can see low life working but i am really trying not to go that route with how ward feels this patch

@flint turret You can ofc get +4 puncture instead but the whole left side is juicy and you'd rather not drop bleeding fury if you can help it, was my rationale

[pearl forge]

ailment duration is huge iirc

[night spruce]

ya, so instant bleed should melt

[pearl forge]

2 gift should be better than 1 gift 1 kismet

[night spruce]

Hmmm yeah

farming gift is a PITA tho

so much easier to farm kismets

[pearl forge]

where does it drop

does it not drop from cenotaph/folly?

[night spruce]

its a common weaver drop

does not drop from folly

[flint turret]

i just donr feel like net spamming into puncture is good enough

[pearl forge]

net gives a lot of bleed but idk

seems annoying

[night spruce]

oh it isn't, its shadows throwing nets with caltrops

that does most work

puncture is there for utility

synch strike net, sync strike net, idk, seems pretty easy af

[flint turret]

how is it better than sync-umbral throw

[night spruce]

i got 2 t7 bleed kismets so that helps. once i get weavers that match ill swap

im using umbrals

its just the expiry ones tho

[flint turret]

but you are not thrwing them

[night spruce]

Nope

[flint turret]

thats my question

how is it better

can you compare sync-nets vs sync umbrals on a dummy? i wanna to understand the math

[night spruce]

about

3-4 times more bleeds id say

let me run a quick test

[flint turret]

i dont care about bleed stacks

umbrals have a shitton of more multies

ds, sword thrower, explosive

[night spruce]

well

[flint turret]

i wanna understand the dps difference not bleed stacks number

[rugged pollen]

you'd need like 20 times more bleed stack using net compared to UB

[night spruce]

testing

[rugged pollen]

in order for it to do more dps

[night spruce]

68k umbrals using this tree

[flint turret]

bad tree

[night spruce]

okay

[flint turret]

max edge

[night spruce]

whats the good tree

oh

well i dont have that many dusk shrouds

[flint turret]

doesnt matter even if its 4

remove 2 from spin

measure it on a dummy lets say how long it takes to drop him from 100 to 90 or 80

[night spruce]

i dont have that much damage yet, im barely in empowered with this character lol

[flint turret]

to 95 then?

i just wanna understand if net puncture makes sense at all

because if umrals do the same or more it does not

and im suspecting they do indeed more unless im missing something big

[night spruce]

it seems to do more but i havent unspecced the two points yet.

like 75k vs 65k avg

inside smoke bomb probably gives umbral an edge

[flint turret]

thereby i declare net puncture dead, move on

[night spruce]

I wouldnt be so sure

i havent invested dodge to maximize net either ;^)

[thin quartz]

Calm down. You dont have any crown on your head.

[night spruce]

Also

bleed duration is big

so for bleed consume effect the effective damage may very well be better

or just over time

net dosnt give shrouds but it does slow, make unable to dodge and stucking enemies in place is super helpful in its own right

[flint turret]

god dam falconer everything i can think of is much better on him

can easily stack tons of dusk shrouds with phase point for umbral bleed with razorboots

or crit, whatever

also your beloved caltrops from aa

[night spruce]

😄

[flint turret]

cant really think of how to make net punctures make sense

maybe some wonky shit with jumping forward and leaving nets and caltrops behind to run monos

[night spruce]

hnggg

the bleed consume

feels so nice

so basically i think net is better on bd specifically

[flint turret]

maybe converting it to fire?

[night spruce]

cause its easier to scale the dodge for net

[flint turret]

and using elemental damage over time affixes

[night spruce]

Hmm?

[flint turret]

bleed to ignite

either on a champion weapon or gloves

[night spruce]

puncture is poison converted to bleed so

i dont see why youd want to convert once more

[flint turret]

much higher affixes for ignite

on everything

also keltan>valdyr

[night spruce]

eh

i think those only drop on axes

and umm

one more item type

but not swords

[flint turret]

yeah but look at the weapons of choise

[night spruce]

eh not leveraging bleed duration tho

[flint turret]

well you can use mahelin gloves instead anyway

[night spruce]

i wonder

if you convert via champion

if you can get away with lightning nets

then you could stack shock chance

for big dam

it converts bleed so

if you convert it to fire before

then it might be poggers

not sure if skill conversion takes precedent over item tho

[flint turret]

hmmm

also throne of ambition for ignite btw

40% more

[night spruce]

ye

not the worst idea, if champion affix goes before skill conversion

[flint turret]

you can try it with gloves

it shuld be the same

[night spruce]

you could then go sword axe for bleed chance in BD

[flint turret]

and keep swords with gloves

[night spruce]

one of em anyway

hmmm

yea maybe

sadly weavers gift doesnt work with ignites

so youre kinda trading away bleed duration

for shock scaling

and higher affixes

which might be worth dont get me wrong

[flint turret]

but then again, it looks much better on a falconer with umbrals anyway which is sad

[night spruce]

sir

you are too fixated

on mr falconer

is falconer in the room with us here

no, he is not

[flint turret]

he is

[night spruce]

he's in your head

😄

honestly if you scale shock effect i doubt even falconer umbral can match that

worth a test for sure.

[flint turret]

shock only affects net and caltrops so nothing that crazy

[night spruce]

you can also consider posion take on both puncture and net

if youre more partial to those uniques

[sick scroll]

hello i serch build falconer umbral blade someone has ?

there are too many on google 😂

[night spruce]

Oh you can ask @flint turret

he really loves Falconer

also @flint turret Maehlins takes precedence over the lightning conversion

Sooo

potentially sexy pivot opened up to me

both triggered and direct puncture also ignites

[flint turret]

Nice

[night spruce]

i wonder

if youd use eye of reen here

Probably?

yuo kinda lose all the crit multi scaling from gloves

tho

so hm

[flint turret]

Dunno, how you gonna get crit?

To stack reen

[night spruce]

its BD

[flint turret]

Shadow daggers?

[night spruce]

even 5p crit vulnerability works with that many hits

[flint turret]

Hm

Might work

300 increased ignite damage is not low

Puncture from nets is melee right?

[sick scroll]

@flint turret you have build umbral blade ?

[night spruce]

Yup

[sick scroll]

all build use different spell and item

[flint turret]

they indeed do

[night spruce]

he's asking you which one's the best/most updated one

:p

[flint turret]

by updated date maybe?

[sick scroll]

to get as far as possible. It's my second character

[flint turret]

no one even fully understands all falconer interactions and scaling, so any build or guide is subjective anyway

[night spruce]

unfortunately a lot of it will require trial and error

so id try with the most updated one and recent one

and work your way back on other people's approaches adn notes

and see what works best for you

[sick scroll]

i see

[night spruce]

@flint turret i quickly sketched an ele dot transition https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGm7mqnA

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (61) / Falconer (19)

General:

▸ Health: 3,573, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 100.51, Regen: 20.08/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 13 Dex / 0 Int / 0 Att / 0 Vit
▸ Resistances: 139% / 101% / 101% / 68% / 76% / 80% / 73%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 1,251
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (981)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (893)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 61%

Used skills:

Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Synchronized Strike / Net / Umbral Blades

[flint turret]

its really hard to make falconer weak if you use his mastery skills, so not so much for trial and error

[night spruce]

had to sneak that one in there huh

[flint turret]

yep

[night spruce]

You need an official title of Bird-hater

😄

[flint turret]

im not a hater i like this mastery, i played a whole season with it

but it was obviously broken ever since its release

and devs only make it worse somehow every time

[bold brook]

adding razorfall in 1.1 is something i will never understand

[flint turret]

tongue+phantom too in 1.1

[bold brook]

at least those can be used for other things, razorfall is just buffing falconer directly after its broken release

[night spruce]

those

are not exclusive sir

😄

[bold brook]

i mean razorfall isnt exclusive either, but just more focused

[flint turret]

they are not, but its something falconer benefits the most by far

same as inheritance

[sick scroll]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZebzwjQ i teste this build

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (55)

General:

▸ Health: 3,655, Regen: 143.64/s
▸ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 199 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 99% / 90% / 95%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 731
▸ Dodge Chance: 65% (3026)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,831)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Umbral Blades / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[bold brook]

oh ya inheritance too lol

[flint turret]

razorfall vs ravager helm:
you get x3 umbrals for free vs you get х0.1 HS per second

definetly not biased

or maybe have you seen any mm bow with+4 skills and 5 flat crit? right, dragonsong +2 which has higher lp lvl than valor

im not even talking about da trigger nerf to 10 per 2 seconds. ever wondered why it was DA instead of AA umbrals?

[bold brook]

ya capping the detonating arrows on top of the explosive trap mana nerfs was strange

[boreal walrus]

[strong venture]

What do you guys think of black blade of chaos?

Experimenting with it right now

[fast ferry]

damn used all my harbinger eyes trying to beat abby for first and got to 10% before i ran out 😭

[pearl forge]

i use it for lethal mirage it is very good

[strong venture]

It looks sick so I wanted to try something more unique

[pearl forge]

you can use it to stack time rot if you want

but vk does it better

[slate mulch]

shield

also the shield may alck too much damage

ive tried shield and 2 daggers, the daggers version easily does 3x more damage

im still learning the fight but its easy to smack uber aberroth down to his second ward bar with 2 daggers but the shield even the 1st ward bar is a slog

regardless it seems to be amuch faster clear than shadow cascade

with shield its probably a comparably fast clear to shadow cascade

[night spruce]

@flint turret respecced, build works great, just had to turn off screenshake lol

[slate mulch]

ok i got him down to last phase

very doable

[flint turret]

With what, can you post planner?

[flint turret]

You too

Does shield absorb laser damage?

If not there is no point using it

[night spruce]

You too? :p

[flint turret]

I'm lost in all discussions with planners, which one

[night spruce]

Lightning Net Ignite

[flint turret]

I haven't seen it

Gib planner

[night spruce]

currently using maehlins until I get a nice dragonbone

[night spruce]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg50rr9A

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (61) / Falconer (24)

General:

▸ Health: 3,573, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 100.51, Regen: 20.08/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 13 Dex / 0 Int / 0 Att / 0 Vit
▸ Resistances: 139% / 101% / 101% / 68% / 76% / 80% / 73%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 1,251
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (981)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,250)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 61%

Used skills:

Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Synchronized Strike / Net / Umbral Blades

[flint turret]

?

?

amulet fire swine or nihilis too, calamity helm

[topaz agate]

What's a realistic corruption level that heart seeker can farm at?

COF player

[flint turret]

over 1500 will be rough

[slate mulch]

i just used the one you tweaked for me

life based ligthing shuriken

and just added 1 lp red rings with throwing damage

[flint turret]

i see

[slate mulch]

although instead of the dominance tundra helmet i used decayed skull

the tundra makes dodging too mana intensive for the fight

[topaz agate]

What glove should I use for heart seeker, if I don't have ravenous void ?

[slate mulch]

and seed of ekidrasil drains too much mana

so i had no idea what unique helm to really use

[topaz agate]

And belt for heart seeker is elecoe innovation?

[flint turret]

vise

if you cant\dont want then paws\boulder\river

[slate mulch]

can snowblind blind be easily applied via frost umbrals?

[flint turret]

belt can be anything from elecoe to brew to jungle to basically whatever else

[slate mulch]

could use that and get rid of crit dmg reduc affixes

[flint turret]

replace with barbute maybe

actually prismatic gaze is not bad with a shield, havent thought of that

[slate mulch]

it would help cap the crit too

[flint turret]

with tongue its not an issue really

[slate mulch]

tongue + shield?

[flint turret]

no tongue dw

you are using dw right?

[slate mulch]

yeah

[flint turret]

maybe i missed your answerd does majasa block beams?

[slate mulch]

this is not amazing testing

but i just went in with majasa/without