🔪┃rogue

[undone dune]

i dont think you can convert dodge to glancing blow and endurance threshold

just get them from idols and reign of dragons blessing laiter

[slate mulch]

Scissors with the shuriken tossing has nice trash clear

I want to say smoke weaver is stronger all around

[undone dune]

I recently learned that scissors has +8% crit multi per stack not 8% base crit chance which is way better

[slate mulch]

Huh wow

[undone dune]

it actually goes so hard with shadow daggers

no idea if BD has a mainhand/offfhand specific stuff

[slate mulch]

I’m now wondering if it works too

Hachadino was running both forms lethal mirage build so I thought it did

[undone dune]

i think once you convert your dodge to glancing blow the character sheet says 0, so then FOTM is converting 0

but i might be wrong

[slate mulch]

Yeah this seems reasonable

[undone dune]

stranger interactions exist in this game

and it would be easy enough to test

[tough viper]

oh damn ok

[undone dune]

standing still would clearly show endurance threshold increasing

[slate mulch]

I’ll rest rn

[tough viper]

wait so does it mean that the description in the weapon text is wrong?

[undone dune]

this is the buff it gives

[slate mulch]

actually i didnt realize it straight up said crit chance

[tough viper]

Dafuq...

[slate mulch]

thats kinda funny

[tough viper]

okay =/

[undone dune]

so something is wrong

but crit multi is way better than crit chance (for shadow daggers)

maybe even in general if you use shattered worlds or something to get an easy crit cap

[tough viper]

ikr lmaoo

[slate mulch]

ive done heorot 12 times and havent rolled increased armro blessing

ok so when i stand still

my endurance threshold goes up from foot

when i move

[undone dune]

interesting

so you can double convert

[slate mulch]

glancing blows goes up from apostacy

yeah

[undone dune]

ohhh wait

your glancing blow goes down when FoTM procs?

[slate mulch]

it seems to cannibalize each other

yea

[undone dune]

ok

[slate mulch]

53 glancing blows > 16 when foot active

[undone dune]

so it just has a different priority than I expected

kind of funny interaction

Foot is probably good boots if you need the stats and use mostly movement skills to move so the movespeed isn't crucial

also free endurance

[slate mulch]

do you think its worth speccing into apostacy and foot considering the priority?

[undone dune]

probably

[slate mulch]

i see

[undone dune]

good to have glancing blows to cover you when foot isn't active

you arn't relying on dodge regardless

[slate mulch]

yeah

thanks for the information, ill keep an eye out for other boot options since i could cap endurance with brewmasters belt fairly easily with a ring suffix

all stats is the thing im crutching on for red ring

[charred ember]

well I'm missing some fire and phys res, but I have 1317 hP now

[undone dune]

phys res is kind of the important one but you can get like 11% on small idols its pretty decent to fix that way

[charred ember]

I'm missing 2% lol

[undone dune]

oh then your capped

whats the worst thing that could happen with 2% increased physical damage taken

[charred ember]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B40ZrVjB new gear

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 66

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (1) / Marksman (53) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,320, Regen: 44.39/s
▸ Mana: 206.38, Regen: 10.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 22 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 82% / 76% / 73% / 78% / 97% / 113%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 264
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (173)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (324)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 16% (90)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Shift / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Cinder Strike

[charred ember]

to the tune of California Dreamin' All my builds are bad and my gearing sucks 🎶

[undone dune]

ohh i just realized your build is bad

you should uuhhh not be going burning daggers

[charred ember]

mate I"m just following maxroll

[undone dune]

take the points you save from not investing in heartdrain and get the puncture node and some more bow damage

burning daggers are trash

and then just spec puncture instead of cinder strike

its like 4 points different in HS

[charred ember]

so wait, unspec molten arrowstorm and dragonfang?

[undone dune]

nooo keep those

those are great

[charred ember]

I don't have any points in burning dagger yet

[undone dune]

unspec furry of the hunt, heartdrain

[slate mulch]

for anyone trying shurikens, im using fulgurite shard, are the nodes to conver it to lightning damage worth it? my main offensive affixes are increased lightning dmg so it seems worthwhile but i cant make space for the skill points unless im sacrificing some multis

[undone dune]

which you were pathing too

[charred ember]

and path to puncture instead?

[undone dune]

yes

way better clear

and like 95% same boss damage

[charred ember]

and just don't get the daggers.

[undone dune]

yeah

[charred ember]

so what do I spec instead of cinder strikes?

[undone dune]

puncture

which you are triggering

[charred ember]

now to figure out where the points go

Timing, obv, since it's just more damage

Redouble?

[undone dune]

i think its something like this

not 100% sure

shadow daggers might not be worth it idk how often you are getting 4 punctures into 1 target

[charred ember]

not often

[undone dune]

i think you underestimate how many punctures will fly out when you kill a mob

[charred ember]

well I'll find out when I get a few more levels in HS

[lone beacon]

depends on your recurve chance

[charred ember]

That... is A LOT of puncture procs

[undone dune]

yup

way better clear

[charred ember]

just shooting offscreen and then I see a bunch of punctures whizz by

[manic prism]

how to get 6max shadow without personal affix?

[south fog]

Hello I wanted to ask. Im running 207dex with razor shoes, so I don't need extra in my helm for 200dex breakpoint my helm is( +7 dex and to Shadow DMG skills) So wouldn't be better to replace dex with dive bomb damage? Does it make sense?

[undone dune]

how are you replacing dex with divebomb damge without losing the breakpoint

[tough viper]

Uhh I killed this boss like 4x already... not a single 1 of this item dropped.. is that normal?

even with such high drop rate? apparently

[pearl forge]

need more corruption for it to drop more

it begins at like 10% or so

then goes up as you get more

[tough viper]

dang okay T_T

how much corruption do u think i need to start farming this item?

[muted cradle]

Corr 100

I got one in corr 100

[undone dune]

i think boss droprates cap at like 500 corruption

if not before

you dont need that much

[tough viper]

T_T

[wary cedar]

glad you added the red arrow

we could 've'nt seen it without

[slate mulch]

na this 10 harbinger echo is such a slog

[south fog]

I have 207 total

[undone dune]

if you are only doing like 100 corruption how badly do you really need that belt

[undone dune]

yes but like in what slot can you drop only 7 dex

and what stat can you swap it to that you think is better

[south fog]

2k

[undone dune]

this was a response to somone else

[south fog]

Ah

[undone dune]

the guy with the red arrow pointing to his corruption specifically

[south fog]

T7 Shadow skills dmg and t5 dive bomb I was planning instead of t7 shadow and t5 dex(current)

[undone dune]

oh on helm?

are you using traitor's tongue or talons of valor

[south fog]

Traitor

[undone dune]

physical throwing damage while dual wielding might be beter than divebomb

if you can drop the dex mod

[south fog]

I need to be sure maybe u r right

[undone dune]

I would personally stick with dex because I dont want ot like get a 2lp shatered worlds with 1 less dex and get stuck at 199

but yeah i guess its possible to drop that mod although its also technically possible to swap to t7 dex on helm and try to hit the 220 dex breakpoint

if you get 2lp razorfall

[pearl forge]

of course after i already got a good 3lp slams now 2lp ones begin to drop left and right

with decent mods even

[undone dune]

idols

use the lenses for only monolith events + no monolith events + idol size

well im out of ideas

maybe do what I did and make a silly off meta charactre then get mad when you find the brick walll that exists that stops it from being meta

[slim breach]

Wait, what does that result in

[undone dune]

only generic kill quests

[slim breach]

Ah

[undone dune]

like kill nemisis/ kill boss/ kill champion

and kill siege golem/diamond matron

[slim breach]

Interesting

[undone dune]

which are easy to do in any timeline (mostly i gues the siege golems are specific)

but its a lot of stuff thats a lot easier

no playing random wack a mole with bosses

[slim breach]

👍

[undone dune]

also it seems like the weavers at the end of the tombs count for the generic boss proph

so those are super easy

its only an issue becuase of how awful the prophecy UI is at identifying what boss I need to kill tbh

takes like 5 clicks to open the UI then theres no search so i have to mouse over every uncompleted one individually

i dont like it

[slate mulch]

is this 10 harbinger woven echo representative of actual difficulty?

im at 400 corr and its beating me up

[undone dune]

i think it has 50% extra corruption scalaing or something

[pearl forge]

they are way tankier than normal ones

[slate mulch]

yeah definitely feels like it

[vital tiger]

How to find items with t7 dexterity?

[slate mulch]

Pray to rngsus

If im running ligjrning shurikens should I still invest in armor shred? Or should I get lightning penetration?

I also had no idea that shock reduced lightning res

[manic prism]

yes

[slate mulch]

Thanks, should I prioritize it over lightning penetration?

Or get both

[manic prism]

get both then scale pen further

[slate mulch]

Got it, what % armor shred is a healthy amount ?

I’m wondering if the bladedancer shred passive is enough (50%)

So I don’t have to spend an affix on it

[manic prism]

try on boss dummy with extra shred%

to get an of idea of how many is sweetspot

[slate mulch]

Sounds good, ty for tips

[manic prism]

according to maxroll pen is just a multiplier

like %10 pen is *(1.1) for your dmg calculation

[pearl forge]

crit mult is so rare

[zealous holly]

Hi, I started following a Maxroll guide for a Falconer and stuck at the very beginning. What does unlocking Puncture at 5 points in Passive tree mean? There's no Puncture in my passive tree at all. I should ask Maxroll Discord probably, but Last Epoch section is dead

[pearl forge]

you get it at lvl 5

baseline

from here

[zealous holly]

No I think I got puncture skill at Lvl 3 character

And it's not passive tree. And there's no points?

[pearl forge]

no idea then

[azure wasp]

in game, the passive tree has some skills at the bottom that are not shown in the planner

puncture is one of them, you need to put in 5 points into your base rogue passive tree

[zealous holly]

I don't see Puncture here, can you please circle it for me?

[sick ivy]

what are you asking? you have puncture unlocked, whats the issue?

[azure wasp]

hmm maybe the guide is wrong then

[sick ivy]

no guide is quite clear, i just went and checked it

At 5 points in the Rogue Passive Tree :
Respec and replace on the Action Bar Acid Flask for Puncture.
Equip a Bow and a Quiver and use Puncture to deal damage.

means when you reach 5 passive points, do this.

[azure wasp]

ah you just unlock puncture naturally then

[sick ivy]

yea

[zealous holly]

It says to have 5 points into it to proceed. Where do I put those points?

[sick ivy]

it means when you have 5 points, switch skills from acid flask to puncture.

[zealous holly]

But it's not Passives?

[sick ivy]

it probably has recommended passives elsewhere in the guide

[zealous holly]

It's Skill Tree

Or not?

[sick ivy]

these passives u should have at that point, you can move the sliders to see how to place points in both skills and passives if u wanna follow the guide

[sick ivy]

i assume english is not your native language? seems very clear to me but i guess it could be interpreted differently

[zealous holly]

I think I understand now, I have to switch my skill in Skill tree for Puncture and use that whenever I get 5 points in Passives. Thank you!

[sick ivy]

yes

and use the slider on the site to see how you want to spec puncture when you get points into it.

the sliders show you the progress how you want to spent passives/spent points in skill trees.

[terse bloom]

dropped 4k to 1.2k stun chance now post idol fix

still a 600% gaping wounds multiplier

[thin quartz]

need lp3 row soon. cant afford to reroll that low cold pen. sucks

i have a 7 7 6 bow with 60+ FP imprint. but its close to impossible to craft

[paper leaf]

how do u got this? Omg >_>

[frank olive]

impronts op

[thin quartz]

gimme a few more days and i'll show you a 7 7 6!!

[elder condor]

Where do we get all our crit avoidance from

As falconer main

[frank olive]

u dont

that or blind

[wary cedar]

i have a 7 7 6

but it didnt survived the slam

[paper leaf]

got new bow -> now i need the slam base

[topaz agate]

Hi guys, for clearing echos which is the best falconer build for it?

There's so many variations

[thin quartz]

how much is it in MG

[topaz agate]

Is the melee damage traitors tongue variation still any good for pushing echos Juse?

[terse bloom]

yeah can get to 5k corr easily

27s uberroth

trying to min max bleed bomb

[azure wasp]

do you have a build link?

[terse bloom]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj30ZEQ

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 3,510, Regen: 47.8/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 199 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 89% / 92% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2773)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,831)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Synchronized Strike / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[paper leaf]

i got it for 1.3b

[topaz agate]

Cool! If I have the melee traitors build setup, should I still go back to the umbral / hybrid version to clear echos?

I'm only at 1400 corruption now

If the melee traitors is stronger overall, I'll just stick with it ☺️

[topaz agate]

Bleed bomb is mostly for single target ya?

[thin quartz]

jesus

[paper leaf]

it was the only one

[terse bloom]

it can clear too, has 350% crit multi without any investment just gotta change sync strike to umbral blade tree

[thin quartz]

oh then you must be lucky to snipe it

[paper leaf]

ye i got lucky

i got unlucky with drops >_> no items to craft

i'm trying to sell this belt but no one buy it

it has the same affix that use the guy that do video

[sick ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeCur6wvA3k new contester approaching falconer in uberroth killtimes

[paper leaf]

he has a bit of mana issue xd

[sick ivy]

not really, using void essence and void well he sustains mana enough.

[topaz agate]

In terms of clear speed, is the hybrid umbral version (crit multi) faster than the melee traitors?

[supple flicker]

Are people still investing in falconer build

like the max max build

i mean its getting nerfed in 1.3 right

I've been clearing ubberoth pretty fast despite having 175 dex and only 1-2lp of the razorfall build

[wary cedar]

whaat, noooooo :(

[supple flicker]

yeah its confirmed

[terse bloom]

100%, 250 more crit multi for big explosions

• shadow dagger burst

[wary cedar]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[terse bloom]

close

[sick ivy]

isn't it quite obvious it's getting the nerfhammer?

[wary cedar]

idk, i dont play it

[topaz agate]

Thanks Jused! But the melee traitors version is WAY stronger for single target correct ?

[supple flicker]

its been nerfed already, but its gonna get another

[sick ivy]

you've seen the vids though

[sick ivy]

?

[supple flicker]

before it was more broken than what it is now, they nerfed it

now they're gonna cap the dex scaling

on the 1.3

[wary cedar]

i dont really watch videos

[sick ivy]

i know it was broken before and still is. and most likely will be broken in 1.3

[supple flicker]

I wanna hold on into that

im like 2x gold cap on the stall and wanna invest badly lol

[terse bloom]

crit multi hybrid falls off after 3.5k corr

[topaz agate]

I doubt I'll even get to 2k 😅

[sick ivy]

and to be fair, can't remember if ppl pushed it to near 7k corruption in 1.0 or 1.1 like juse did this patch

[topaz agate]

Any idea if physical pen idol on shadow daggers, does it affect overall physical pen?

Or it's restricted only to shadow daggers

[sick ivy]

they also made corruption pushing much faster and easier this patch so theres that

[terse bloom]

just shadow daggers, not worth it since u only get 4 procs per aa @ 200 dex vs instant dive bomb resets

[topaz agate]

Ideally we want the idols that have "damage to skills by shadows" correct ?

What's the ideal idols we want to aim for? Like aspirational

[supple flicker]

This is correct, for the ideal its a preference

some people use physical pen and some use health gain on kill

[sick ivy]

bis idol, always was and always will be.

[topaz agate]

Can we use like 4 of these idols with "damage to skills by shadows"?

Wouldn't that be ideal

[wary cedar]

which would you use?

[supple flicker]

Try to experiment on it, i use 3 dodge huge idol with damage to skills by shadows, and the rest are health gain on kill and 1 with more effective healing small one

[topaz agate]

Got it I'll play around. If the damage to skills by shadows is Bis, Then ideally I want to stack as many as possible

[sick ivy]

you wont get massive dps increases out of idols tbh unless there is some broken interaction.

[topaz agate]

For hybrid umbral version, do we need to max out midnight aviary node?

Not needed right

[sick ivy]

like the increased stun chance was.

[topaz agate]

I'm just looking for a falconer build that can clear echos easily

There's quite a few variations, so at this point. I'm not very sure which build is good for what.

Eg the pros and cons of each version

[supple flicker]

I use the boss set up to clear echos and its fine at 1k

[topaz agate]

-bleed falconer
-hybrid umbral
-stun falconer?
-melee traitors elemental damage

I'm pretty lost 😭

[topaz agate]

The one with melee traitors ?

[supple flicker]

yeah

[sick ivy]

anything with good aoe and fast movement speed=good echo clear build

[supple flicker]

just abuse the smoke bomb jump

and the aerial and dive to damage

you'll be fine

take advantage of the jump distance

thats what i do so eh

[wary cedar]

is this a slam?

[manic prism]

do i get this reduction during dancing strike?

[thin quartz]

very close. ran out of FP. soon

[haughty kite]

If i am going umbral blades falconer, what do you advice to lvl with?

[wary cedar]

i think this is good

[frank olive]

umbral blades falconer

[paper leaf]

sad

[thin quartz]

its coming soon

[frank olive]

that is disgusting

[thin quartz]

not yet

[barren wasp]

still wondering if the stun build for falconer also increases survivability in higher tiers of corruption like permastun, especially with something like somnia. Anyone mapping with this?

Might switch to it regardless, but would be good to know before dumping 2B into it

[wet bear]

im still hating on those imprint changes

i will never get 1lp rrs

[barren wasp]

yeah same

[thin quartz]

@paper leaf its done. its here
@copper rapids

[paper leaf]

how the

[paper leaf]

mirror it >_> gimme 1

u will hit 😄

[thin quartz]

this bow is probably the most expensive bow in the entire game

the crazier part is that bow is not even CoF tag

[paper leaf]

exatly, gimme 1 copy we will have it in two and imprint in 2

[thin quartz]

cant give priceless gear

[paper leaf]

but it's me 😦

[slate mulch]

Hi y’all is there a way to give a non Lp unique LP?

Or is the only way to slot machine on the egg

[midnight zealot]

very nice, but tbh i would go for attack speed over crit multi :3

still gonna be hell of a bow if it hit tho

[slate mulch]

https://youtu.be/mJ-pw-8zzms?si=I0d6NJx11eB0S72a

Interesting build

[midnight zealot]

looks fun

[paper leaf]

just test , around 48 sec (i count from the moment he start walk down the stairs)

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Davyray/character/Davyray_Heartseeker
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qn4W2v0o

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (67) / Falconer (11)

General:

▸ Health: 2,849, Regen: 37.26/s
▸ Mana: 200.34, Regen: 13.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 104 Dex / 13 Int / 28 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 245% / 107% / 104% / 92% / 82% / 122%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 1,201
▸ Dodge Chance: 49% (1837)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (599)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 105%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Decoy / Umbral Blades

[thin quartz]

if you're not using it.

[paper leaf]

_> he is rng carry , tell him to play market and buy them off market

[thin quartz]

if it hits, i can gift you the 2lp one

yeah, i found 1 more remember.

failed. 1 more try. gotta find lp3 row first

[paper leaf]

F

[paper leaf]

but still better than mine >_>

[thin quartz]

damn. my mental broke alittle with that fail.

[warm zephyr]

how does the Trapas node interact with the No Man's Land node on Explosive Trap? If you have max 10 traps, do you get 3 of each element + 1 other (not sure what element) or 10 of each element (30 total)?

[thin quartz]

no LP but this almost the perfect roll if not for that 2% missing on icicle. lol

[daring yew]

Slam that bad boy in neme and pray

[thin quartz]

im just spamming envy for now. doing tower with a friend later

[daring yew]

Glgl

[pearl forge]

just finished killing 100 aberroths

3 h or so damn

[daring yew]

Would have been half that if you could skip the rp

[pearl forge]

did have an other honorable rip

[thin quartz]

do your stuff. its fine. im envy spamming

[pearl forge]

but at least this one works to reroll another

[pearl forge]

yea for next league i will have an event horizon extra gear

so i can skip all rp

[daring yew]

Based

[pearl forge]

wonder if it also works with lagon

maybe after i finish poe2 things and wow i will just offline it and also a fulgurite shard gearset

im curious how they do in uberroth

[wary cedar]

got my first lp void gloves today, and already two with 1lp now

[muted cradle]

I have max bow Speed ( 132%) and bosses got 999 shred armor but it take time to kill them, any idea for what i'm missing ? Corr 200 with heartseeker ice build

[wary cedar]

armor shred?

[thin quartz]

not enough dex not enough crit multi

[undone dune]

armor shred isn't eactly super useful at 999+ stacks you get like 85% of the maximum effect at 100

[wintry leaf]

I'm cant find any info, but did anyone tried ignite heartseeker ?

everyone seems to be playing the cold/ phys+poison variant

[slim breach]

I did ignite. Was fun but I swapped to frostbite for easier gear math lol

[slate mulch]

do throwing shurikens count as melee attacks

for perfection?

[slate mulch]

dang so if im not easily applyking 100 should i aim for thta?

im currently hovering around 40-50 easy application

[undone dune]

you can also get some effect instead

as a rogue

[flint turret]

Why would they? They are throwing

[slate mulch]

yeah makes sense, i have useless passive points slotted into perfection then

[slate mulch]

true, time to shop for idols

[flint turret]

Depends on a build. What items do you use for shred?

[slate mulch]

im currently relying on bladedancer passive 5 pts and 2 armor shred idols

[undone dune]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor

[slate mulch]

79% chance shred from idols

[undone dune]

that has a tab to see shred effect

its not always the most important stat

[flint turret]

Shred from idols is definitely not the best option

Usually you want t5 shred on a weapon if it's 3lp

[slate mulch]

hmm thanks for letting me know, ive been skimping on getting multi LPs so i had to make do with the idols

[flint turret]

T7 on ammy is okay too, but might be an overkill for some builds

[slate mulch]

i kind of regret slamming t7 HP on the nihilis i got

[flint turret]

Gloves can have shred suffix too

If it's not ravs or vise you can easily get it on gloves

[flint turret]

T7 hp on ammy is kinda a weird choice ngl

But I guess it can be good in some scenarios

[muted cradle]

Yes

[muted cradle]

Crit multi then, I have 75 dex and 238 Crit multi

[undone dune]

75 is not a lot of dex for a mourning forst build

decent starting point if anything

[muted cradle]

Hmm ok

[thin quartz]

75 dex is low. base crit multi is 200. means you only have 38 extra

[flint turret]

Most likely he didn't count for perfect aim, so thats +65 multi

Unless he's lowlife an then low dex makes sense too

[wintry leaf]

any chance you have build link ? Im looking for inspiration

[slate mulch]

@flint turret do you think goping into apostacy for max glancing blows chance is better for a leech based sustain build?

[flint turret]

For what build exactly and for what purpose?

Usually apostasy is not good unless you exactly know what you are doing and why

[slate mulch]

prior i was using hachadinos setup with lethal mirage where he used foot of the mountain and apostacy for survivability

i ported it over to life based shurikens since i didnt want to change gear

[undone dune]

wern't you the one also using foot of the mountain? and having apostacy only active while moving?

[slate mulch]

yeah i remember asking you how it worked

im getting randomly one shot at 500 corr by the 10 harbinger gauntlet here and there

99% of hits i can survive and leech through but every now and then something seemingly innocuous that i comfortably tanked before bonks me into oblivion

[flint turret]

What's your gameplay with shurikens? As far as my understanding goes you spam sync into throw all the time, no?

[slate mulch]

yeah

[flint turret]

Then foot does nothing, sync is a movement skill

[slate mulch]

i see, i was secondarily using it for all attributes for red ring

[flint turret]

That's okay I guess, it has some nice stats too

[slate mulch]

i was hoping the defensive part of it was working too

rip

[flint turret]

What's your dodge looks like without apostasy?

[pearl forge]

you need to stay in place 1 sec

for foot to work

[slate mulch]

24%

[flint turret]

And how many dusk shrouds you usually have

Can you post a planner, will be easier

[thin quartz]

what for we count passive. its free, no need to think too hard. just press C and see

[flint turret]

C doesn't show it unless he's in a fight

[thin quartz]

that's my point. there's no point including the passive. just take the character page value is enough to gauge

[slate mulch]

sure

[slate mulch]

fighting the dummy i usually only have 1-2 shrouds at any givben time

[flint turret]

Not that much indeed

[slate mulch]

basically smoke bomb is the only way i get lots of them

[flint turret]

Apostasy kinda makes sense so far

Unless you would want to get more into dodge for overall ehp increase

[slate mulch]

if im relying on leech would investing into dodge still be better than life and armor?

[flint turret]

You can't really compare those directly. Dodge is the biggest ehp multiplier but it does nothing for one-shot ehp

Well, almost

[slate mulch]

makes sense. my logic was that if dodging and i need to sacrifice life, theres nothing i can leech from when i get one shot when i do get hit thru dodge but idk if thats dumb lol

[flint turret]

If you are always dying to one-shots you either need to increase your one-shot ehp or get to the point you are not hit at all

[slate mulch]

yeah for sure, i can blast through 500 corr echoes without dying, its just the last harbingers in that 10 harbinger gauntlet that start to wreck me

[flint turret]

You are not supposed to eat rolling boulders or pizza attacks anyway

[slate mulch]

yeah, what worries me is that its sometimes the ordinary attacks that kill me, like a regular spear charge

though im not sure if that spear charge is actually a deadly attack or not

sometimes i tank it sometimes i dont

[flint turret]

If you are getting one-shot by a slim harm red line tho, it's fixable

Give planner bro

[slate mulch]

ye 1 se

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ ok that was easier than i thought, i was manually inputting things for a sec there lol

[flint turret]

Spear charge not really, red line tho is a good metric, because it's something thats on a border of being a one-shot, but youarw still able to gear to tank it before big corr numbers

[slate mulch]

is the red line from the skinnier harbinger?

[flint turret]

Save it bro

[slate mulch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qb4EGn6o

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (60) / Falconer (22)

General:

▸ Health: 2,559, Regen: 41.67/s
▸ Mana: 256.03, Regen: 13.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 30 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 41 Vit
▸ Resistances: 59% / 75% / 75% / 74% / 80% / 114% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 71%, Threshold: 896
▸ Dodge Chance: 24% (802)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,320)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Umbral Blades / Synchronized Strike / Shift / Smoke Bomb

[flint turret]

Yeah that one

[slate mulch]

gotcha, i see what you mean, its that fiery red/orange line dash

i can actually tank those decently well

[flint turret]

Unrelated to your question but why no light shred blessing?

[slate mulch]

now that u mention it

dang i didnt know that was an actual blessing

i have to farm it at the lagon timeline

havent unlocked yet lol

[flint turret]

Also wtf is that oceareon ring. Why

[slate mulch]

it was any random unique ring that seemed relevant, need 2 buy a legit 1

[flint turret]

Its not really relevant

Replace with 2lp crab asap

[slate mulch]

i do have a 2 lp crab in stash, will do

the lack of evade is annoying, ill have to roll cdr on smthn for shift

should i use dominance of the tundra?

[cedar sage]

For Juse's build, we dont spec into umbral blades, how do we benefit from it? Midnight aviary says shadow falcons deal more damage per umbral blade on the ground

[undone dune]

AA throws them

[flint turret]

You can use nomad ring then

[slate mulch]

got it

[flint turret]

Can't say I'm a big fan of using rrs on builds that don't need stats by nature

Especially 0lp ones

But oh well

[cedar sage]

so the umbral blades is coming froom aa only

[slate mulch]

i see, so just normal rings>rr?

[undone dune]

yeah

regardless of if you spec it for damage or not you never throw them yourself

[cedar sage]

its the twilight node yeah?

ahhh

[sick ivy]

why 2lp crab and why oceareon is irrelevant?

[cedar sage]

Also do you hard cast syncstrike everytime?

[undone dune]

need to cast synchstrike every 4 seconds

to keep the shadow damage buff

and the crit multi buff

you also do need to hit an enemy with it

[cedar sage]

will i lose that muich mana if i add it in the macro?

[undone dune]

you wont be able t ocontrol your character if you add it to the macro

[cedar sage]

ahhhh

[undone dune]

but also yes the mana thing

[half nacelle]

which bladedancer build can kill uber aberroth?

[spark swan]

God I cant wait to brick all of these and get t3 poison res

[flint turret]

How about something like this? I left 1rr so you can replace crab with a second one later too if you want

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/om48mwJB

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 98

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (33) / Bladedancer (51) / Falconer (17)

General:

▸ Health: 3,111, Regen: 41.87/s
▸ Mana: 173.31, Regen: 13.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 52%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 28 Dex / 26 Int / 17 Att / 40 Vit
▸ Resistances: 59% / 69% / 69% / 72% / 73% / 117% / 84%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 1,089
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (611)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,567)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Umbral Blades / Synchronized Strike / Shift / Smoke Bomb

[slate mulch]

wow man thanks a ton for taking the time to look into it to that degree

[flint turret]

I also noticed you didn't have any flat throwing on gear which is terrible ngl

Both damage and survivability should skyrocket

[slate mulch]

yeah i do have flat throwing rings t6 but i had no real concept of how significant it was

[flint turret]

Its not that good on rings

[slate mulch]

hmm, should i get it on relic?

[flint turret]

You always want it on gloves+belt+amulet+relic, only then on rings

[slate mulch]

o ic

[flint turret]

I might have messed up 180 stats tho dam

Stupid rr

[slate mulch]

its all good, im not like devoted to the rr, i just thought since it was rare it must be worth lol

[slim breach]

I don't, I was just winging it lol. Abusing the conversion from gloves and using weaver idols with ignite chance, can use row for clear too

[slate mulch]

p bad logic

[flint turret]

You can replace body with mountain

It will help to hit 180 if you still want to use rrs

[slim breach]

Tried to use fire daggers but the mana was bleh

[flint turret]

Its really good, but like I said I'm not sure its worth over 3lp nomad or 3lp crab for builds that don't use stats at all

Its still good for capping res tho

Also I overcapped your necro res by accident, replace necro res suff with hp or whatever

[slate mulch]

thanks a lot, this gives me a great idea of what to work for

[flint turret]

If you wanna drop rrs you can also replace boits with stealth, razorfall or chariot 2lp

[slate mulch]

yeah i was gonna ask about the boots, ty for the info

[flint turret]

You can also try and experiment with mourningfrost but I'm not sure its worth

Better stack all t7 throw wherever you can instead of hybrid if you want more damage

3200 hp with 55% armor on average already looks pretty tanky to push 1200+

Might want to start building some dodge too tho

[slate mulch]

apostacy is a no go then i assume?

[flint turret]

I'd say don't use it already

If you will build like that

Another route you can take is wall body + ward on shadow creation+ ward gen/ret idol suffixes

[slate mulch]

i thought about that but it seems shurikens doesnt gen as many shadows as shadow cascade for it

[flint turret]

But you will need to swap out tundra because 2lp is not that easy to slam

You sync all the time no?

[slate mulch]

yeah, but its 2 v 4 shadows i think

[flint turret]

Its still lots of ward

+smoke generates them

You can also replace umbrals with cascade and cascade on shift, and spec cascade to generating shadows on kill for trash clear

And mana Regen

[slate mulch]

interesting, if i eventually want to fight uber aberroth does it matter if i rely on ward for defenses or is more HP better

i c

[flint turret]

Ward for monos, hp for uber

[undone dune]

neat

[flint turret]

That planner won't be enough for Uber tho I think. I had 2rrs+ravs and overcapped res with null+3k hp, and I could barely survive some of his attacks

3-sector or overhead mace is still a one-shot

[prisma marlin]

That’s one of the next items that I need to farm for. Do you have an exalt to slam that with?

[undone dune]

no i havn't been imprinting helms

but a 4lp peak is the reason why ive been playing with this node all season

[prisma marlin]

150k amber in conquered tower spam and praise RNGesus

[undone dune]

it litterally just dropped like that

no nemisis required

[flint turret]

thats what this shit gave me

i didnt even use it

[prisma marlin]

Oh wow that’s nice. Good thing I have that node on my weaver tree

[undone dune]

i have one of those too!

jsut sitting in a 4lp tab

not useful at all

[prisma marlin]

Health increase, vitality, endurance, and dexterity slam.

[undone dune]

what

no

[slate mulch]

Dang y’all r getting that in cof?

[undone dune]

t7 dex + damage with bow + phys res + cold res

cmon

[prisma marlin]

That would be so hard to find tho hehe

[flint turret]

4lp peak is not that hard to get tbh

[gaunt mural]

whats better rn bow or daggers/swords or whatever

[undone dune]

4lp with +5 stats though is nice

but yeah of all the items to shoot for 4lp on, peak is not that bad

[flint turret]

4lp with +5 is not that hard too, just 20-50 neme towers

[undone dune]

its 1 in 100s

not like some things

[flint turret]

Its 1in 271 in mg

[undone dune]

yeah

i dont know exatly how much CoF lowered that for me

or if CoF even applies after 1lp

not sure exactly what this means

[flint turret]

Yeah I don't know the exact mechanics behind it

[sick ivy]

t7+t6 throwing for rings is needed for shuriken if you want 100% crit multi from the nodes like this, and this is what trikster uses and i believe is the most dps. bottom right corner nodes give u more manacost but u get 100% crit multi with 2 points vs 3 points into massacre that gives only 75% so if you really need shock can get that too

[flint turret]

I prefer to believe it's around twice for all lp amounts like it says

[flint turret]

I haven't gone into skills at all, that planner is based on not mine planner, I just tried to adjust gear. Also he can't get those because he's using 0lp rr and I can't say just get 1lp rr bro

[sick ivy]

oh then i direct my message at @slate mulch

[flint turret]

Some of the skills are messed up there a bit but it's not totally bad

[wary cedar]

i m messed up as well

[sick ivy]

some cd reduction is needed on gear imo to make it more smooth

[flint turret]

Also I think one can live without that ricochet node because then you don't have to get throw on rings at all

And those prefixes are pretty bad in terms of flat/per affix lvl value

[sick ivy]

tbh i myself am going lowlife with the same build and theres nothing better on ring prefixes

and 100% crit mult is very big

[slate mulch]

i was using tricksters setup and was temporarily trying out the lightning conversion

[flint turret]

Yeah 100% is big, but he's using lirakas and ur using shackles

[sick ivy]

oh no im using lirakas

too

[flint turret]

Oh okay

I summon the power of math

[sick ivy]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oPNnpGWQ

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (58) / Marksman (27) / Falconer (7)

General:

▸ Health: 3,434, Regen: 31.86/s
▸ Mana: 202, Regen: 11.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 24 Dex / 5 Int / 5 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 95% / 95% / 76% / 100% / 100% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 790
▸ Dodge Chance: 20% (653)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,104)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Synchronized Strike / Shurikens / Lethal Mirage / Umbral Blades

[sick ivy]

yeah it's still very much in progress, have no crit avoid/crit dmg reduction

will try to slam them eventually on uniques, preferably oceareon and something else

oceareon is great source for shock and chill, abit of dmg reduction and 10% more dmg

yeah got somewhat unlucky with the suffixes on rings and helmet xD

[flint turret]

okay so hes gonna be at 550% multi without ricochet, so its 18% increase if we get those for multi, and 50 flat on top of 290 hes gonna have which is another 17%

[sick ivy]

what would you get on ring prefixes if you dont go for red rings?

[flint turret]

okay so getting double lghtning % is not worth it, it will just be 22% increase in that setup. so the only options are utility like crit chance\res\hp\adoudance\endurance

for damage ricochet with flat on rings wins for sure

[sick ivy]

okay

[flint turret]

thats was educational, i havent calculated it before

thats also costs 2 extra points in shuri tho

[sick ivy]

yeah, but if needed you can take those from massacre.

50% vs 100% if you have the mana cost reduction from rings

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/TriKster/character/TriKsterBD2 this is triksters setup, i'm not sure what would be the best to put on weapons

[flint turret]

true, but thats affects my calculations

25% multi is around 5% more damage

[flint turret]

yeah ive seen it, hopefully he will complete it, its pretty mid as is

id even say below mid

[sick ivy]

yeah, when i saw it i thought oh that could be pushed so much more

[flint turret]

yeah thats why i want to see someone really investing in it

i believe its possible to uber with chakram

i would have tried\done it myself but i dedicated myself to hs

[sick ivy]

i'm kinda torn if i want to gear it to max and try uber with it or if i want to go for black blade bd with penumbras

also i'm not that good at math and am lazy to do spreadsheets etc

so optimal gearing i just go by feel most of the time

[flint turret]

did you calculate light pen on ammy to be the best? i didnt expect that tbh

because you are already getting like 55 pen

[sick ivy]

i didn't calculate anything xD

it's just a placeholder anyway

[flint turret]

makes sense

[sick ivy]

already have 2lp pearl and one okay nihilis with the new ward suffix t7

but from your planner i assume just flat is best?

or those modifications you made to jobbers planner

[flint turret]

well, depending on your gear but i believe in flat being superior

[sick ivy]

i pointed out to trikster in his video that chakram has different scaling from shuriken, which he left unnoticed.

[flint turret]

what

wdym

[sick ivy]

chakram has 100% added effectiveness and shuriken has 125%

[flint turret]

ah it doesnt matter at all

[slate mulch]

are you talking about the flat from lightning conversion node in the skill tree?

[flint turret]

it doesnt affect the balance of affixes you want at all

[sick ivy]

on gear.

[slate mulch]

o on gear got it

[flint turret]

+50 flat on top of 100 flat will be the same % dps increase regardless of the skill having 100% or 1000% damage effectivness

[sick ivy]

yea, was just interesting little thing since he said he wanted do it since shuriken got a buff to added damage effectiveness from 100%->125% among other things xD

[flint turret]

yeah i didnt know that chakram has different scaling tbh

i thought 100 to 125 would also affect it

[half nova]

it has different scaling but tbh even when you do the math its still better than multi-hit shurikens

[flint turret]

is it tho?

for a single target that is

[half nova]

the only point where multi hit shurikens does more damage is if you never hit the rebound on a chakram

[sick ivy]

or ailment build for shuriken

[flint turret]

ti should be the same for ailment and non ailment

ah nwm

entry points is only hit damage

[half nova]

yeah it specifies hits

[sick ivy]

don't ever see anyone making a bleed or poison shuriken though

[half nova]

they had in the past but iirc it doesnt stack anywhere near enough to be crazy

[sick ivy]

and yeah entry points is weird, it's worded like it would be 90% max but it is for both bleed and poison so 180%

[half nova]

vs every other option

[sick ivy]

yeah apparently long ago there was poison shuriken build before they nerfed poison

[half nova]

there was a poison build for everything until they did that

[sick ivy]

true

sad i didnt get to experience it, started in 0.9.

[flint turret]

At least now it makes sense for me why they buffed chakram

[half nova]

chakram was just bad previously

[flint turret]

Because damage effectiveness was buffed only for shuri

[half nova]

i hate the text that says blade shield doesnt stack :<

i wish it just capped bladed armor to 5 stacks

[sick ivy]

wdym?

[half nova]

if you cast shuriken again it destroys the old rotating shurikens blade shield

[sick ivy]

yes, but bladed armor stacks

oh wait now i understand what you meant

that would be actually probably too good

[half nova]

stronger than deadly aim but you would need to hug enemy in a range closer than melee range

[sick ivy]

and then add that shuriken can hit the same target more than once with pierce xD

[ebon gale]

I'm going to build one of Juse's dagger bossing builds, but what's my best bet for a rogue build to grind echos with and get to ~lvl95-100?

I've got other characters to get gear with

[vivid ice]

fk that. RNG is God (dodging build) xd

[half nacelle]

which bladedancer build can do uber aberroth?

[flint turret]

That's a really good question considering last time devs shared stats only 3bds killed him and no videos of it

Shuriken and lm should have decent chances, maybe something trap-flask related too

[errant wolf]

How old were you guys when you found your first Blood Roost gloves? I'm like 60 hours in on my Falconer and i swear i've looted hundreds of every unique glove except for the blood roost. Spamming prophecies still havent got them. I havent even once seen a pair of Serrated Bracers to try and rune of ascend them. Checked loot filters a dozen times, its all set up right. Are they really that rare?

[vivid ice]

just bought it Lp1 and add +16 dex for first 😉

[flint turret]

You can ascend any gloves bro

Serrated gloves don't exist in non unique items

[errant wolf]

Buying wont work for me, wrong faction. Oh i didnt know that. Just tried all of my RoA, no joy. I swear they dont drop

[flint turret]

Dunno, they drop pretty often if you use unique gloves prophesies

Even if they don't you will still get lots of usefull gloves anyway

River, boulder, even a chance of ravs

[rain crest]

I got lucky with expensive exalted items and had to sell it and buy it; never dropped for me

[misty marten]

Hello everyone, I'm in an interesting situation here. One of my friends loves playing bladedancer rogue, but doesnt enjoy following build guides. We'd have no problems with this, except the build is starting to fall of really fast in monoliths, so we decided to ask for some help. We're mostly looking for potential uniques to farm, 1-2 skills to swap in the build and general tips on what affixes to look for and what nodes are good/bad. Thanks for any help in advance, here's the build as it currently is: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Av4pKv1B

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 74

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (30) / Bladedancer (57)

General:

▸ Health: 1,272, Regen: 65.91/s
▸ Mana: 130.24, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 25%, Regen: 18/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 21 Dex / 11 Int / 7 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 54% / 75% / 32% / 137% / 39% / 7% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 254
▸ Dodge Chance: 28% (770)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (452)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 12%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 6%

Used skills:

Flurry / Cinder Strike / Dancing Strikes / Lethal Mirage / Shift

[prisma marlin]

I farmed a full board of prophecies earlier today. I tried to target farm unique boots, but I was tired of needing to reroll so I started to add a few glove unique. I had 1-2 drop in the 5ish glove prophecies at 1000c.

[flint turret]

Wow, just wow. You might want to reconsider your stand on using guides. As much as I respect such take, there is nothing to fix here, 4 out of 5 skills used are half-meme with no synergies among themselves and items are not better

[misty marten]

I understand and I've recommended the same, but she likes it this way, which is not something I can change. We just want to tackle the most egregious parts of it is possible, which I cant quite identify since I don't play rogue (though I think Cinder Strike is a meme?)

If there is a guide out there which uses at least 3 moves out of the 5 and uses two one handed weapons I could probably get that to work if it's really that bad.

Thanks for the help anyways! Confirming my suspicions is a step in the right direction. I'm just a bit lost on what to recommend to change, since I've never played rogue.

[flint turret]

There are no more or less meta builds that use even 3/5 of skills together. The only one I can think of is lightning mirage build that uses shift and maybe can use dancing strikes as an extra buff? That's not common at all tho. I can recommend watching dread guide on lightning lm with dual fulgrites if you wanna go dual

[misty marten]

Oh I'll have to check that out. Though I'd like to say meta is not the end goal here. I'd say low corruption / empowered monos is where we'd stop.

Tysm!

[flint turret]

In low corr anything kinda works. Using dot(bleed) or shadow daggers is the easiest probably. You might want to look into that and just get everything that supports either. Its pretty straight forward

[misty marten]

Alright, I'll check those out too. Tysm again for the help, I was at the verge of giving up.

[flint turret]

If there is no intention to climb over 200-300 corr you can just use any skill, but you need to build around it. It needs to be either hit or dot. You don't want to scale both hit and dot. Also mixing different elements is usually a no-go. If you are using phys, stick to phys. If it's fire like cinder, stick to fire. Mixing different things only makes everything worse

Same logic applies to melee/throwing, with the exception of shadow daggers which is both at the same time

[spark locust]

So as i see they havent fixed facloneer dive bomb / shroud bug

but i have heard umbral blades is isane build and one of most meta ever

what am i miss

missing?

I have seen people clearing orobyys at 5000+ corruption here

is there an actual variation that isnt lizard irl's bugged one?

[undone dune]

Theres only like 2 bugged nodes and you just dont take those

the bird gets insane scalaing anyway

[wraith nacelle]

For those running a crit based heart seeker which belt would bring more value Im having trouble picking

[tulip pumice]

What's the difference in the explosive trap version of umbral blades falconer and the maxroll version?

[supple flicker]

jungle

[wraith nacelle]

is the plus 10 dex with morning frost worth more then 23% crit multi?

[hexed pecan]

well thats a nice one

[slate mulch]

lowkey uber aberroth seems very doable with shurikens

i have potato gear

and i do okay damage to him

granted i get one shot

but i just started doing 500 corr

as long as i can straight up not get 1 shot by a regular swing it seems like its mostly a mechanics test

nvm these ward barriers are long af

[dapper nymph]

Have you tried using runes of ascendance on any gloves? easy to farms runes of Ascendance in CoF.

[dapper nymph]

What nodes are bugged?

[undone dune]

flock of crows, and birds arn't real

[dapper nymph]

I knew something was up with those! I'd tried them, and saw nothing

Thanks

[cedar sage]

How will you guys edit Juse's build for corr pushing?

[half nova]

run it as glass cannon

[cedar sage]

i mean skills lol

his build takes a while to ramp

[vale iron]

has anyone added umbral blades into ZHP ballista instead of specced decoy?

[topaz agate]

Are you running the melee damage on traitors tongue version?

[thin quartz]

Elector has better value with the resist and crit multi. Jungle’s value is pot and dex.

How much dex do you have.

[slate mulch]

ey i dropped 1 lp null portenet finally

curious to see how much tankier itll make me

[cedar plume]

Anyone from Eu playing falconeer wanna look at my build and help me fix it a bit (first time playing last epoch) ?

[frank olive]

why eu

u can link ur build here and everyone can check

[vague gorge]

As a rogue/marksman what the best way to generate mana?

Flurry?

[slate mulch]

did not get 3 lp slam on fulgurite

[manic prism]

mana gain per hit from rogue passive tree

[heavy jewel]

how is net as a puncture applicator?

any good?

finally trying cooking up something with clothos see if i can even make this wep work

[wary cedar]

uhm

wheres my loot?

k found it

normal aberoth is a 34sec kill now for me

[wanton sable]

Is it just me doing something wrong or does falconer feel like it gets one shot OFTEN?
My ES void knight does way less damage but almost never dies. My falconer does like 10x damage but randomly just dies.
How do I up my survivability on falconer? Besides umbral blade maxroll, what's the best falconer build?
New to the game so sorry if I'm just ignorant

[wary cedar]

its because you picked rouge

[paper leaf]

u are 10 sec faster thjan me O_o

[frank olive]

u do realize that sentinel is like the tankiest possible class rn right

[wary cedar]

yea dragonsong 🔥

[azure wasp]

I also feel made out of paper but that is the rogue way it seems

[slate mulch]

finally got close to 700 corr and can still facetank most things, im assuming 1k corr is when life based rogue gets 1 shot

[paper leaf]

yday i did a bit of change to tree and skills
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Davyray/character/Davyray_Heartseeker

i putted of shift and dark quiver

[wary cedar]

huh umbral blade?

just play falconer then

:(

[paper leaf]

i don't use it, just autocast

[wary cedar]

does this make a difference?

[paper leaf]

ye

[wary cedar]

its always autocast

in any build

[paper leaf]

👀

btw i made a belt like the one of juse and no one buy it 💔

[wary cedar]

single exalted

🤡

[paper leaf]

Juse has it 1 exalted

[wary cedar]

and because of that other people need to buy it?

[undone dune]

the falcon tourists havn't caught on that juse is playing a build that doens't use throwing damgae on belt

[topaz agate]

It's normal. I always get 1 shot randomly at 1k corruption, by some necrotic puddle on the floor.

Or the main culprit is usually green laser beams

Or the fire meteor by one of that champions

Or the nemesis lightning bolt

Or some random shit that gives you 0 reaction time

[topaz agate]

I thought throwing damage converts to damage for the falcon through Avian Arsenal and Avian Hurl?

[undone dune]

it sure does

but Juse is cooking something

and he is scaling minion bleed with chance to stun

so he doens't need minion melee damage

[topaz agate]

Oh I'm not playing that. Still on the original melee elemental traitors tongue, you shared with me about

Finally understand the mechanics of the build. So no way I'm changing again 😔

Can't be changing build every 3 days 😅

And if I read the YouTube comments correctly, the bleed stun build is only good for single target, and very average for echo clear

1. Hybrid Umbral - best for echo clear. Decent for boss.

2. Minion Dive Bomb - slightly weaker for echo clear. Strong for boss.

3. Bleed Stun - weakest for echo clear. Strongest for boss

I'm currently swapping between 1) and 2). I find 2) the most comfortable since I can do all content at 1k corruption and kill Uber aberroth if I feel like it

[slate mulch]

What is “RoH gambling” btw?

[sick ivy]

Rune of Havoc

[slate mulch]

OIC thanks

[vivid ice]

Do u know will bomb lvl instanded of VIt will be game changer?

Cannt drop right one still, and its expensive as

[wary cedar]

what is expensiv?

[vivid ice]

Hybrid health T7+ Nuke bomb T6/7

[sick ivy]

can't get t7 hybrid health on helmets

only increased and flat

[vivid ice]

ye, right 😉 I meant inc health and bomb lvl

I just woke up, please forgive me ^^

[topaz agate]

oh wow!!

[paper leaf]

+3lp Reign of winter

[wary cedar]

i wouldn't

i only need 1% phy res than i have at least 75 everywhere

[paper leaf]

rip

[wary cedar]

told ya

[paper leaf]

need anothe 3lp

[graceful hare]

Someone around that made a decent bee build this season? I don't find into the topic on rogue 😦

[paper leaf]

i saw a video few days ago

[graceful hare]

The primalist theory craft about the belt affix?

[paper leaf]

a guy posted it here

[graceful hare]

Do you have a link at hand?

[soft mauve]

i dont get it... how is this a nerf? a person in VC here tells me that you were able to stack explosive mines so they would continuesly shoot arrows? Do they not know what they are talking about or am i missing something?
whats the reason for the change?

[wary cedar]

is anything of this "rare" its all 3lp

[sick ivy]

@flint turret a question, for lightning chakram which affixes do you think are best for the daggers? increased lightning dmg, crit multi, penetration, crit chance to cap it or armor shred?

got a good 3lp traitors and decent 2lp fulgurite atm, and just took a bunch of exalted dagger prophecies, trying to figure out what i wanna highlight in my lootfilter

[flint turret]

Mostly depends on the rest of your gear, but usually I'd say at least one t5 shred affix and the rest is exalted light% and crit multi. If you are already super super high on multi (600+) penetration would be more or less the same value

I'd probably try to avoid putting crit chance on them

Worst things worst you can get in on couple of idols

Anyway I was thinking about going 1h+majasa shield for shurikens yesterday for abby

Shield should negate most of dot damage by itself, the only issue is capping crit. Its not THAT bad, because you are still getting 4+4 flat on weapon+shuri tree but the easy solution would be shattered ofc

Can maybe even use a peak, because you might not need leech at all if you block all dot damage on Uber abby. And majasa shield looks like a great addition to lowlife shuri

[lunar hinge]

Whats the best option on Traitors tongue for umbral blade?

[cedar sage]

yes

Also can someone tell me how does Juse’s version do dmg? when i do mine it ramps up, the first few secs dont do any real dmg.. I smoke, sync strike then the 3 skills.. Am i doing anything wrong?

[dusky schooner]

That’s kind of how the build works. There’s a lot of ramping abilities, he’s just way better geared

A lot of damage comes from avian arsenal, which is scaled from standing in smoke

[pearl forge]

could not update you people but yday i did some uberroth tries

got him to 20% twice and other times can get to around first harbinger then next phase with the four quadrants

sadly no kill and these next days i have to play wow

but i see a future

[cedar sage]

i have all his gear except the null portent ( i chose the shadow armor with dual t7 dex and shadow dmg ).. So basically cast smoke and start spamming the 3 skills.. Whats the point of sync strike? And which is better? 4 or 5

[pearl forge]

sync strike makes shadow abilities hit for 200% more

quite good

[cedar sage]

So shadows are created when ur inside smoke? there is a node that makes the shadow 4 or 5 i dont get it

cuz what i do is as soon as abe comes out > i place 2 smokes > cast ss > 3 skills.. Ig i should be doing 2smokes > spam 3 skills then just add ss when i start to dmg him?

[pearl forge]

no just shadows created after x seconds of using sync strike do a ton more dmg

[thin quartz]

Do you know the version before the change.

[topaz agate]

I'm playing the non sync strike version.

Not sure what is the main difference sorry.

[dusky schooner]

Sync strikes puts 4 shadows or 5 even in a targeted location

Smoke shadows are random and have a limit of 3

They also take a lot longer to spawn

Sync strikes also can transfer some crit multi and gives your shadows a damage buff

You don’t need to sync strike until you’re ready to dive bomb. Aerial is a big damage ramping ability

[cedar sage]

Dive bomb is usually included in the 3 skill macro

so maybe what ill do cast atleast 2 smokes, start casting 3 skills then once i see some dmg i ss

[dusky schooner]

I’ve been playing this build since 1.0, don’t really care for the macro part. I’m explaining how the damage actually ramps to you

[cedar sage]

ahh

[dusky schooner]

I guess that’s semi false, razorfall in 1.1 buffed it big time… but it’s nothing new from this season 🙂

[cedar sage]

what do you think is better 4 or 5? i saw a comment from juse, he said go with 4

[dusky schooner]

5 puts an annoying cooldown on the skill, if a boss moves that’s annoying. 4 is quite easy to fit

But that’s up to you

I always played with 4

[cedar sage]

and do you always cast sync strike after 4 secs?

[dusky schooner]

Keep in mind sync strikes is the only skill you have that can transfer your crit multi

So you can cast it more often if you want even

[cedar sage]

ill see if i can macro that to smoke bomb

so everytime i cast smoke i cast that

Does this benefit me in anyway? i mean for the build

[tribal hearth]

What does dusk shroud do?

[flint turret]

Sounds good, but that last 20% is a challenge in itself

[pearl forge]

yea still need to get through the whole ward

but i played bad that time

sadly until next weekend i wont be able to play much

[flint turret]

It took me maybe 10-15(?) times to get him to 20% untill I managed to finish him off. I even died 3 times after burning through all his 20% ward, at 19, 18 and 5%

[jade ledge]

Good but what about uber?

[pearl forge]

it will take me more because i know im not a good playuer

even after all this time i still die to greeding dmg and get bowling halled

or forgetting the order of abilities

or that balls come from right then left

and making the floor a mess

[paper leaf]

😦 cant' do uber ..

no tankines, no dps 😦

[jade ledge]

oh so heartseeker just not for uber?

[pearl forge]

you can do it if you are an elite gamer like ragu or wudijo

but otherwise steer clear

just enjoy killings mobs in monos

[worldly plank]

why the maxroll rogue leveling focuses on crit mult stat? am i guranteed to crit something? just wanna know

[pearl forge]

if you mean shadow daggers yes

they always crit

[worldly plank]

owh i see

[paper leaf]

i can do maven day 3 but i REFUSE to stay 15min in a fight coz the game is unbalanced .

[pearl forge]

that is why most leveling people do 2x kris with some way to proc shadow daggers

even i do it

it is just so good

[flint turret]

Meh, I don't feel like being an elite gamer is a requirement. You can just brute force it with better gear. Wudijo used vise gloves and was able to tank both 3-sector attack and overhead mace, which I couldn't with ravs and my low lp gear

[pearl forge]

i actually took some tankyness off

[flint turret]

If you get access to Uber gloves and relic it's much easier

[pearl forge]

needed more dmg

i can say skill issue every time i get mace jumped or triple flail tbh

instead of tanking it but fight taking longer

[flint turret]

True, but both approaches work

[pearl forge]

yea

well for me i dont think making fight last longer at the end is very good

only cleanse is 10s smoke

recipe for disaster

maybe i go for cleanse on shift too

[flint turret]

Yeah that's rough

[pearl forge]

actually nvm it makes cd longer

[flint turret]

You probably should

[pearl forge]

maybe i change belt to have some cdr

[flint turret]

I had cleance only on smoke traversal too

And I peaked 45 frailty stacks on Uber Abby which is definitely not something you want to do

Zdps

[pearl forge]

even on last phase i still had some leeway thx to more dmg

i just forgot he does the super mace thing

and took 1 dip into the ground of destruction

idk why that ground shit 1 shots

[flint turret]

He does everything that's in 1 phase+succ

[pearl forge]

so annoying

yea i knew he does that just forgot where the ground was

and went that way

insta tapped

[flint turret]

Yeah that happened to me all the time too

[pearl forge]

had to bait it some other way

instead of towards middle

[flint turret]

And that stupid ground is invisible under pools too

Its kinda hard to navigate the last phase. Abby doesn't move at all. Even if you move him he often just walks back and starts to spin. And when there is a burning ground on the floor it makes things a lot harder. You can't go out of bounds, you can't go into burning ground, you can't go through the middle because there are 30 lasers there

Its rough

[pearl forge]

yea at least it will be quite fast for me

when he healed i just comboed him back to 20% in like 15 secs

then i have ward

then he dies because of cull

[flint turret]

I would argue with that statement if you have 10s cd on cleance

[pearl forge]

just have to see it yea

likely get cleanse on shift too

or belt

i have queens so i can spam pots

[flint turret]

5% less damage per stack hurts

[pearl forge]

the leech thing would kill me first

[flint turret]

Yeah cleance on belt + lots of potions is one way to solve it fast

Oh well, gl with finishing it. Looking forward to your successful video

We need at least one for bds

[soft mauve]

not really

[flint turret]

There was no 10 per 2s limit before 1.2

No one can really tell why did they need to butcher it so hard

[soft mauve]

but it still fired a Detonating Arrow on explosion of the trap, right? you couldnt just stack traps that would continue exitsting while firing the arrows? or could?

[soft mauve]

i dont get it, how is it a nerf

[flint turret]

I don't get what you are saying either

They shoot da when they explode

[soft mauve]

you cant have more than 10-11 (not sure exactly) max active traps anyway

[flint turret]

You could replace them by spamming them and the ond ones insta-detonated

[soft mauve]

but its 3 at a time on use

[flint turret]

Your attack speed is around 3 per second

[soft mauve]

oooh aight

[flint turret]

And you shoot like 5 traps+also sprinkler traps

[soft mauve]

how would you sustain mana though jeesus

[flint turret]

They basically cut it by 2/3 at least

With throw rings

[pearl forge]

you can cheat a bit more with foot of the mountain

[flint turret]

With bow they also made manacost higher

So that's double nerf

[pearl forge]

but it got quite killed for bow

wonder how it does

although for most content should be fine i guess

just HS is way more comfy

for mm

[flint turret]

Yeah, there is literally 0 reason to use it anymore because hs is a thing that does the same thing but better

And doesn't drain your mana

[pearl forge]

ok we got some money back

now i guess i can try to get a belt with cleanse for next time i go

[soft mauve]

i mean i started building it last season and it clears good but thats about it, singletarget is poo
mana sustain is the main issue

[flint turret]

2lp titan 400m jeez mg is fkd

[pearl forge]

with jelkhor or bow?

it has decent rolls

[soft mauve]

bow

[pearl forge]

and 3lp is a myth in MG

they all likely get rmted

sad

[flint turret]

Single target should have been really good in 1.1 afaik

I'd dare to say better than hs, or on par at least

[soft mauve]

wdym "likely" lul

[pearl forge]

we have no proof so can only extrapolate

but i know some places

[cedar sage]

Guess this one doesnt help minion builds?

[soft mauve]

i mean i could just imagine if it was possible to sustain mana / get enough to burst bosses, with atack speed ofc it would be OP
I'm doing base attack speed cause 40 mana regen is not enough to get higher attack rate

[undone dune]

there isn't any way to give that stat to the falcon

[cedar sage]

fkkkk

[undone dune]

you can only give global melee/bow/throw damage which that is not

[soft mauve]

wdym
people are spamming 1.5 bil listings on trade and someone buys them

you think 100s of millions should be normal price for an item?

[flint turret]

Its global tho

[pearl forge]

no i mean you wont see 3lp

[undone dune]

i know your troling but I hate trying to explain the difference between bow damage and damage with a bow

[pearl forge]

because it uses third party sites to be sold if it was up for gold cap it gets insta bough

[undone dune]

it makes sense but its needlessly wordy

[soft mauve]

falconry has a passive that transfers a bit of your increases to falcon strikes, either when you consume a mark or smth like that

[undone dune]

that node is for flat

not increased

[flint turret]

If you know the difference then why you are saying that damage while welding a dagger is not global?

[undone dune]

because dagger damage is not melee/bow/throwing

[soft mauve]

its cause you forgot to type "base/flat" part lol

[soft mauve]

then gg

[flint turret]

Its not dagger damage bro it's damage while welding a dagger