🔪┃rogue

[eternal phoenix]

Hahaha

[wary cedar]

its not about the lp2 rr it's about the friends you made along the way

[serene crane]

t7 dex on quiver with t5 bow speed, 2LP Mourningfrost should be doable with t7 dex, farm Aberroth and turtle Nulls for 2LP

[eternal phoenix]

U mean Killed and Slaughter right?

[serene crane]

Would be better to just get 3LP Crab rings 😄

more dex, more cold damage

Or just get 2x Julra with 16dex and watch your phys+cold res just disappear

[flint turret]

Bro I wanna try ravager helm as support and some throwing shenanigans but I have filtered out all throwing rings and I don't want to farm t7 of them already

Fml

[serene crane]

t7 throw shouldnt be somwhat very rare 🤔

[flint turret]

I fear that if I find it decent I would want to slam them into rrs which I don't have spares of

I call 1 3lp

Actually make it 2

I feel generous

[wary cedar]

i will only allow you 3lp as long as i dont have a slam for my 4lp

[serene crane]

Slam t7 throw on crab ring... then throw the summoned crab with explo trap attached to it... the thrown crab then attached to enemy with attached explo trap on it and they all explode... reusmmon crab and repeat

[flint turret]

Sounds cool ngl

I wanna see explo traps+flasks+da trigger all converted to fire with dragonsong and ravager hs as a support to shrouds and flat fire damage

But it's not gonna work without double throw on rings at all

It might be terrible even with it tho

[serene crane]

I guess you kinda want t7 throw so your mana lasts longer than me during uberroth

[prime jacinth]

How viable is a super high dps bleed build?

[wary cedar]

i said i didnt allow you >:)

[flint turret]

That's what I said

Why would you turtle 3lps tho

It just rerolls lp value and it doesn't matter it's 1 lp or 3

At least that's my understanding

[serene crane]

I guess depends how much damage you can do with what bleed skill 🤓

I still need to get better... or well, any slams for my bleed DS, but so far I got like 1000-1150 bleed damage

definitely could be higher... 😄

If I got 4LP Boulderfists from Nemesis that has 25LPL, 5% chance and is 1:4142 chance... surely 4LP Troaka is doable aswell?

[wary cedar]

i dont even have a 0lp of that belt

our stash*

[serene crane]

Still got 4LP in my stash... but all my exalted belts are just 1xT7 and the rest t5, so... eh

[terse bloom]

1.4s roth post stun idol nerf

[flint turret]

Everyday I'm checking #🎥┃video-shoutout and no Uber Abby bd video still

[wary cedar]

i m wokring on it, i have like 1% done

[flint turret]

What gloves? 4lp paws?

[serene crane]

Thats what I did with like my massive horde of boulderfists... idk how many I had.. like 150? 😄 about 3 tabs too

turtling, nemesis spam, turtling, nemesis...

[flint turret]

Why exalted when there are paws tho

[serene crane]

Naaaaah getting MG/another char to get you Vise/Shattered to a char that didnt kill Uberroth is just lame af 😄

[flint turret]

Ah, you don't use brew right

[serene crane]

@pearl forge yo Uberroth kill where?

[pearl forge]

this weekend i will try

i missed 2 more 3lp slams on swords

think there is only 1 left in trade

[flint turret]

But gloves roll endurance suffix too. T5 is the same 15%

[pearl forge]

but now i need to craft another exalted

[flint turret]

T7 endurance then

Dunno bro

I don't feel like dragonsong is worth it afterall

It's more straight up damage but you lose on collecting black arrows

Or you lose on dragonsong proc while doing so

It's weird

Nah, not worth it

I mean getting shred

Fire nodes are awesome tho with row

[wary cedar]

can someone pick me up form work?

[flint turret]

It's much more damage for puncture

I'm not talking only about boss fights

[terse bloom]

https://youtu.be/Ox9QyHGGjq8

6251 dragon post stun idol fix, 1.4s roth

[serene crane]

Sure we fly on Rahyeh, pick up some snake ladies in Majelka, buy some energy drinks in Heoborea and then we farm some echoes

[serene crane]

Push it higher before 1.3 hits 😄

[wary cedar]

tyty

[willow thicket]

What’s the best rogue build right now? Getting back of the game

[wary cedar]

op or well balanced?

[willow thicket]

OP

[wary cedar]

i demand another rouge channel so we can get rid of the falconer dudes xd

[serene crane]

LM Black Blade bladedancer

[willow thicket]

[waxen imp]

Play what is fun

[serene crane]

...cant wait to get called childish again for making fun of falconer mains, perhaps ending by getting banned from the discord

Either way 1.3 will be funny for falconer... either the nerf will be absolute joke or it gets some new items that bring it back to the skies anyway

[flint turret]

Like item that makes your falcon a harbinger that will absorb the bosses powers or smth?

[boreal walrus]

[serene crane]

Item that turns your falcon into Aberroth's dog and you get to ride on top of it

[wary cedar]

i think they'll buff, falconer is a bit underperforming

[scenic belfry]

just want to ask, if what would be the best way to farm reign of winter? haven’t got a single drop 💀

[wary cedar]

killing heoret ig

there's no other way

[sick ivy]

Weaver tree has one node that gives very low chance for boss specific drops no?

[wary cedar]

?????????????????

[sick ivy]

To drop in the said timeline

[wary cedar]

does it?

[serene crane]

Yeah, Age of Winter timeline boss, could use Envy glyphs to get stability to famr the boss faster, woven echoes that let you fight the harbringer => get timeline boss loot => Nemeiss egg 0LP / Turtle 1LPs and hope for 2LP once you get 1LP to play with

[wary cedar]

0,1

[serene crane]

0.3% chance... Ive seen it procced several times, but eh... not very common... still something tho

[sick ivy]

Yea but its the other chance outside of bosses

[wary cedar]

bossing is just faster

[sick ivy]

Yea with envies its really fast also the woven echo where u kill harb drops boss loot too

Thats prolly the fastest

Collapsing Horizon

[wary cedar]

screw work, imma just play now, whos gonna stop me

[serene crane]

You still kinda want to run tombs and cemetaries tho for embers, weaver idols, enchanting class idols, using woven echoes... so its just another layer that can give you extra boss loot... envy to kill timeline boss => get loot, aberroth eye, harbringer woven echo (might also get that weaver node that gives you 40% chance to duplicate boss woven echo) => put harb woven echo in imprint slots... blablabla, stuff like that, repeat 😄

[wary cedar]

i have 60k amber or something

[serene crane]

Thats only like 30 Nemesis towers? 😦

[sick ivy]

Also on topic of falconer uniques, imagine if we get an item that changes falcon into a seagull.

[wary cedar]

but reduces all dmg by 99%

seagull uber kill when

[sick ivy]

Flock of seagulls who constantly make noise

[undone dune]

0.3% per rare enemy doesn't seem that low tbh

[serene crane]

What would be the best for falconer is being able to use store pets as falconer skins... imagine that snailfrog just zooming around

[undone dune]

theres easily 20 rare enemies per tomb

its not like its 0.3% per champion

[serene crane]

Yea you can juice it up kinda easily... and at higher corruption it drops the entire loot pool

[raven wave]

legit what i was just telling myself

[undone dune]

bees

replace falcon with bees

[raven wave]

too lazy to turn on pc tho, brainrot easier

[wary cedar]

i had my pc turned on already next to work

so i can do stuff on my pc thats not work

xd

[raven wave]

i got worklaptop i plug everythin into

[serene crane]

No monthly bonuses for you

[raven wave]

then swap to pcs usb hub

[serene crane]

Yea those actually flies... would make more sense, but flying frogsnail sounds funnier 😄

[manic prism]

not mentioned in tooltip but i think this can convert to lightning also, hacha did you try it

[pearl forge]

the point itself is very weak for 2h

vs the other ones you can get

[manic prism]

true

[undone dune]

it would get converted though yes if you take the phys->lightning convert node

[pearl forge]

actually no idea

node only talks about bleed to shock and pe

oh and base dmg

[undone dune]

thats just how conversion work in skill trees ot my knowledge

[manic prism]

its added to base dmg but still converts i guess

[undone dune]

they replace all sorts of strange things

as long as it has the damage type

[serene crane]

Yeah but still only 32... which is like the weakest one you get aaaaand for 4 points? Hell no 😄

[pearl forge]

yea for dw is fine but for 2h it is quite weak

you want this

kinda for 27 points

[undone dune]

does that hti damage node get converted to more hit damgae per shock?

[pearl forge]

pen is the weakest after

[undone dune]

sundering blows *

[pearl forge]

the bleed one no you need some bleed somewhere

that is why you kinda use sync strike thing and the umbral blades

[wary cedar]

not the best, but smal upgrade

[serene crane]

Isnt Ravaging Mirage weaker than pen by 4% ? 😄

[manic prism]

isnt pen just another multiplier

[pearl forge]

you have other dmg that is not lightning

so lightning pen is not the best

some void dmg

[wary cedar]

does anyone know if the sealed affix can applie on non sealed when imprinted?

[serene crane]

The saddest part is bleed getting converted to shock... I'd also like to add Phantasmal Presence there but thats awfully too many points... but easy for SD, 800flat dodge feels great 😄

[undone dune]

https://old.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1khozy6/its_time_to_update_the_imprint/mr8iqjq/ does this answer your questoin

i think this is what you are asking

[wary cedar]

@copper rapids how much is your dragonfire tooltip?

you gaslighted me 😭

:(

i mean my hs tooltip is only 4k less than with row

so i should do good dmg on range as well

what spells?

they also have a tooltip

[raven wave]

they do?

[wary cedar]

yes

but i cant screenshot it because it messes with the sniping tool xd

go over row or dragonsong and press alt

[raven wave]

skill issue

sweet, didnt know thay

and ye

[wary cedar]

dont have that button

[raven wave]

then go paste in paint

surely u got an fn for it

[wary cedar]

surely alt want mess up hotkeys there x)

[raven wave]

true

idk i swapped to the reign one but would be nice to know icicle dps

will have a look next time

[wary cedar]

icicle is 86k for me

dragonfire 183k

[raven wave]

ye makes sense

[scenic belfry]

thanks for the info, appreciate it

[raven wave]

altho dragon wont be as consistent at hitting

[wary cedar]

thats why i m getting increased area on my gloves x)

[raven wave]

but still hits multiple often

is that dps with stats tho

like obviously if u have bonus fire dmg

[wary cedar]

??

[serene crane]

I guess today I'll respec my lv85 falconer to Gathering Fury MM for Puncture mirage shadow daggers... I think that sounds cool...

I think Uberroth dies the moment you pick Falconer during the campaign, fills your stash tab with Uberroth loot, gives you gold cap and ruins the MG market

[wary cedar]

😱

i will never trust you again

of course the one with low treshhold becomes lp2

now i need to reroll

[serene crane]

It still has nice rolls tbh

eh, cant really go low life with this, huh

was thinking about Nightbringer, but Phase Point might just be nice enough

yes, to reflect irl self

I probably wont because I want biiiig bow speed... which also has biiig life on hit 😄

and since I kinda go for throw damage... I could throw Heartseeker there because why not... and Ravager's helmet? 🤔 sounds super bad but I guess why not, right

Ye but the idea is really just Puncture with shadow daggers...

[flint turret]

Bd is better with it

Although if you want to use ravager hs to buff flat throwing to sd I guess that's okay too

But phys pen won't be affecting it so maybe not

[half nova]

It's miserable trying to low life with bow marksman so many damn sources of gain life slapped onto good passives

[serene crane]

wdym, its still physical skill? 🤔

[flint turret]

Dragongang gives fire flat

[serene crane]

I guess it would be still good to get flat fire which would boost SD 🤔

That moment when you re-echant an enchant and it twice enchants it with the same enchant you had before

[wary cedar]

wouldnt making a mod for offline mode be the easiest way to get some sort of calculator for all sort of skills?

dmg calc

hit me instead

[flint turret]

Considering you would get to 200 pen in total for phys, that means no phys has only 33% value if phys just because of this, and some extra value lost to armor shred lesser effect for non phys damage

[wary cedar]

hit the slam

tooltip now for hs

why not???

[serene fern]

a quick question guys, I've been searching a good rogue build, tried dive bomb but felt like dull, shall I try umbral strike falconer or go with heartseeker

looking for a good, aberroth viable build

[wary cedar]

do you want op or balanced?

[serene crane]

Eh, I dont really follow much... 😄

[serene fern]

my mains were judgement paladin and erasing VK, so xD

[flint turret]

Kestrel doesn't give you 1500 ward for free

[wary cedar]

if i get good multiple exalted chest plate and kestrel lp4 i l ldo

[serene fern]

op would be good

[wary cedar]

then falcon

[flint turret]

You are getting phys penetration for sd, phys shred. That will total in around 200% phys pen. Everything that's not phys won't benefit from it

[serene crane]

4LP Kestrel is fairly doable with prophecies... 0LPL, 1:271...

[serene fern]

any recommeded builds from LEtools or maxroll?

[wary cedar]

yea ik ik, but a good exalted hmm

[wary cedar]

idunno, i dont play falcon

[serene crane]

Ye then I dont have to go fire with Hs at all? 🤔

[flint turret]

But if you don't then what's the point of hs being there are all? Just some Ds?

[midnight zealot]

how much time does it takes you to kill normal abby usually with hs ?

[wary cedar]

i can test

[midnight zealot]

ok ty

[serene crane]

Just some dusk shroud generation, its not really much 😄

[wary cedar]

felt like around 60sec

[midnight zealot]

ok thx

i'm around 45 to 50 sec atm

i think i can do better than that with perfect timing on my smokes

[flint turret]

1 min from triggering him walking down

[cedar sage]

@terse bloom which gives more dmg shadows % or inc dmg when wielding dagger on chest (instead of vit)

[midnight zealot]

ok, i'm at 45 sec for my lowest, sometimes a bit more to 50

[flint turret]

Pretty good if you don't sacrifice ehp for it

My best way around 55

[wary cedar]

what is this ehp?

[midnight zealot]

i dont

https://streamable.com/oq4v1q

[serene crane]

I better not see any crit avo when I click your link!

[midnight zealot]

i can do lower i don't have my idols yet and i should place my smokes on top of him

tbh

[serene crane]

[wary cedar]

its marksman passive

[serene crane]

This ultrahot wip garbage
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B40bGD1B

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (25) / Marksman (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,643, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 131.08, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 65/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 48 Dex / 14 Int / 14 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 82% / 147% / 81% / 16% / 34% / 39%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 451
▸ Dodge Chance: 38% (1326)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,097)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver / Heartseeker / Flurry

[lime sun]

anyone knows what trigger the huge screenshaking divebombing multiple times in a row? when you're playing a falconer, what's the condition to do that

it's related to shadows generation

since I can only do it when there's smoke

[serene crane]

Maybe without mountain boots, kinda not best with Phase quiver I guess and easypeasy Anchor

[midnight zealot]

spec into this

get rid of dark quiver

this is not worth

[undone dune]

i had to turn off screnshake when playing falconer

idk what causes it but its constant

[midnight zealot]

https://streamable.com/n1ejuh

need to get more health on my gear but it will be ok for now

can go to bed

[undone dune]

you didn't have frost shred blessing?

[midnight zealot]

ambush on decoy helps

and more shred always helps

if you can get your hand on idols

with repeat bow skills

your time will even be lower

i still need to get these

[undone dune]

yeah 4x1 or 1x4 only

[polar panther]

hey guys

is shadow cascade decent this season

[undone dune]

shadow cascade always good clear, not ht best bossing

[polar panther]

yeah more or less, its just a fun skill to me

the bossing does suck tho esp in corruption

[midnight zealot]

get 2 with writ multi instead

[paper leaf]

omg

[midnight zealot]

2x

and 1x

then throne of ambition and after that you can put whatever you want

it wont change alot past that

[polar panther]

ill probably use chakram with it though that also seems kind of extra and illogical but hey

[undone dune]

how do you fit throne of ambition with 2 huge idols?

i didn't think that enchant could be on large

[midnight zealot]

you can stack 6x

[undone dune]

or do you mean juts only use 1 huge

[midnight zealot]

it will be a pretty big increase to

only 1 as i said

1 huge, 2 large

and throne of ambition

after that stack cold pen/res or whatever you want

i would advise to go for cold pen/res

and put 2 points in frozen splinter

and of course you need

[undone dune]

are you not running 4/4 in dragonfang? or are you just taking both fire and cold conversion

[midnight zealot]

row

dragonfang is not worth

[undone dune]

use use fire conversion for row too

its 80 flat

[midnight zealot]

i'll try that later

ty

[undone dune]

its a lot easier to gear than getting t7 cold res everywhere

thats for sure

[paper leaf]

wooo huge

[undone dune]

especially after mourningforst already eats the first 150 cold res

[midnight zealot]

i'm not going for t7 everywhere

i'm on an hybrid crit/res atm

so yeah

alot easier to build

and long term dps wont change too much

[undone dune]

how much cold res do you have that you are getting much value out of frozen splinter

[midnight zealot]

should be around 200%

[undone dune]

seems super high with mourningforst

[midnight zealot]

but if you want to fully invest in frozen splinter and playing only with that, you want to be around 600%

[paper leaf]

sell me this belt 😦

[midnight zealot]

that's not mine, this is the one on my planner, mine actually only have 40% cold res and 115 cold damage x)

[serene crane]

Swap off from the crappy MG already

[midnight zealot]

same hybrid tho

x)

[serene crane]

Dw you will get it soon... And surely then it wont get other crap affix thats also gonna be the one getting upgrades

[midnight zealot]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/0n6h50jt

here this is what i came up with

this is really easily doable

even easier for you guys in cof

[meager ice]

guys my falconer so squishy

i get deleted so much only at 280 corruption yet

is there something falconers do to be more tanky?

[midnight zealot]

dodge

need belt and spam potions

like literally spam

[meager ice]

ohh

i dont have jungle chaps belt yet

[midnight zealot]

get rid of life

and you can put a suffix

in sphere

instead of quiver for exemple

will be alot easier

i'm doing 1.500 corruption casually and i'm not even where i planned to be, i think i'll be around 2k/2k1 before getting stuck with this

[undone dune]

its easier to give advice if you link your character but in general falconer relies on health + dodge + glancing blow at low gear levels

[serene crane]

Yeah Decoy is great, but If you go with Hs shadows then just go 4/4 flat evade and Shrouded Core, armor shred there is honestly not really great

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-boba-fett-the-mandalorian-this-is-the-way-the-book-of-boba-fett-mandalorian-gif-24825263

[midnight hinge]

can someone explain to me how rogue (or at least falconer) reach so numbers of damage so high?

[serene crane]

Everything there just multiplies everything with each other into very illegal numbers

[midnight hinge]

like crit multi?

[pearl forge]

yea falconer is if bladedancer could have 24 shadows

[serene crane]

LM would be uber insane then... please EHG gib

[pearl forge]

i would be fine if dark allies worked

8 shadows woulb de ethical

LUL randomly clearing harbingers

maybe i use these instead of foot

[serene crane]

Might be better than 12 dex, ye 😄

[serene crane]

I think EHG just kinda forgot to code the exceeding amount of shadows you cna have with +1 gloves and BD+BD passive...

[teal lagoon]

omg yess

[paper leaf]

just found owo

[teal lagoon]

now I just need Nemesis to not fuk it up 😂

[slate mulch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ozDOw1jQ

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Rogue (22) / Bladedancer (53) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,414, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 220.51, Regen: 12.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 60%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 44 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 74% / 82% / 83% / 72% / 82% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 845
▸ Dodge Chance: 65% (3099)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,358)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

Used skills:

Synchronized Strike / Shift / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Shurikens

[wary cedar]

a bug bite me

[slate mulch]

So this shadow cascade build has no damage for cascade per shadow on armor pieces and it still rips through 2k corr

Is the main scaling mechanism mostly melee physical and attack speed?

Also I was a goof and accidentally imprinted T7 increased general melee instead of the flat melee affix on my daggers

[pearl forge]

that build seems drunk as f

as you said no dmg on cascade

idk where to even begin

[soft mauve]

how do i make flask deal hit damage? where would i get base damage from

[undone dune]

from +throwing damage mods on rings/neck/gloves/belt/relic

it also has 25 base damage

[slate mulch]

Yeah but the damage was still very high on 2.3k corr monos, though this was 1.1.7 or something and in the reddit thread people were talking about snapshottomg

However as far as I’m aware the snapshotting still exists

Meaning the build should just categorically be better now with shadow dmg on armor and then synch strike efficiency idols if needed?

[pearl forge]

i mean dmg is not very high for sure

but clearing has never been a problem with cascade

[soft mauve]

i read "by melee attack from a child" lol

[pearl forge]

even at like 4k corruption mobs dont even have 1 mil life

so you just cruise around

just dont get hit

i wonder how much time would take to get through first shield on uber with that ahaha

[mortal tiger]

d2 stygian dolls be like that tho

[paper leaf]

soo many upgrade for me today Q_Q

i need a belt with %life hybrid t7, cold dmg and idk the 3°, i think %life

lol this belt on market

[pearl forge]

not bad

[potent arrow]

my client is lagging out just when i put my 1 lp nihilis and slam food into the cache, looking like a rip

[tulip pumice]

Noob question for umbral blades falconer.. we don’t actually cast umbral blades right? Not even on bar in guide

[sick ivy]

Cascade has quite the decent amount of more modifiers in it's tree, the affix on gear is minimal part of the scaling.

[undone dune]

AA makes the bird throw them for you, you dont cast yourself

[tulip pumice]

Oh nice thank you so I’m guessing aa is number one priority damage ability

[undone dune]

nope

divebomb is

[flint turret]

Got baited by hs too?

[undone dune]

AA just throws the blades

[sick ivy]

The impressive part of that build is how it sustains. No leech no regen. He sustains health only through shadow generation.

[serene crane]

Nah its underperforming so I'll wait for buffs

[loud arrow]

So, I've been noticing that most people here are dual wielding Traitor's Tongue instead of using the valor bow. I still kinda folloowing the Maxroll build and have this bow, would it be better to change to dual wield? Ignore the Stun chance on the bow, it was a gamble lol. Umbral blades build.

[pearl forge]

bow is fine for clear

dagger is more boss dmg

[undone dune]

from eperience the bow build has higher umbral blades damage and feels better for echos. daggers are signifcantly better for ubberoth farming

[flint turret]

I fear they might nerf recurve formula from 0.8 to less tbh

Or nerf the 66% min node

[undone dune]

I know this is a joke but do people feel that skills that work to like 1000+ corruption are "underperforming" if theres no real way to easily do uberroth with them?

[flint turret]

It's because falconer kills Uber in 30s so everything is underperforming hard compared to it

[undone dune]

but like if you ignore that

[serene crane]

Doing 1k+ C and Uberroth are two super different things tho

[undone dune]

1k corruption used to be like the benchmark for the highest tier of builds

[flint turret]

Dunno about "easily" but hs is Uber capable for sure. Both crit and dot. Dot should be easier

[tulip pumice]

Oh ok thank you

[serene crane]

Bleed Hs? 🤔 honestly something Id be interested in... Im not really a bow guy, not a big fan of Mourningfrost either... 😄

[undone dune]

i just feel like uberoth is not tuned well for the average power level of endgame builds

[flint turret]

Dunno about bleed I was thinking more about poison

[pearl forge]

i mean a lot of rogue builds can do uber you just need to play well for around 10 mins or so

just the burden of knowled that falconer exists

will never leave your mind

[undone dune]

there are just a few outliers like ES vk or that curse warlock that seem to be in the sweetspot and every other class just falls short (again ignoring falconer)

[pearl forge]

even ES Vk take almost 10 mins tho

[undone dune]

10+min clears just doesn't feel resonable to me

[pearl forge]

like 4-7 mins with good gear

[undone dune]

ES VK takes like 4 mins

[flint turret]

Maybe it is, if it's the boss you are not supposed to "farm" at all

[serene crane]

especially when a single mistake oneshots you 😄

[pearl forge]

yea i think around 4 mins to 7 should be fine if your build is good

[undone dune]

exactly my issue

[wary cedar]

increase fire dmg on quiver >>> bow attack speed ?????????????????

[pearl forge]

what i dont really like about uberroth is the chaos blade and the bowling hall

[undone dune]

I dont like the burning void line that damages in a way bigger aoe than it shows

[pearl forge]

yea that one and the blade

are so fake

everything else is kinda ok

i also would not mind if void pools/balls and the ray did more dmg

but had 3x or 2x less occurence

they get kinda spammy

[undone dune]

balls being that spammy would be better if the burning black hole felt more predictable

[flint turret]

Black hole is predictable, it's always casted at the same time more or less

First one after the second spin

You can predict them more or less easily

[undone dune]

if you have any stun at all this stops being true

i almost always get it right before the 2nd spin

because I stun him once

and it just gets more and more out of synch as the fight goes on

[pearl forge]

yea when he has no shield he just gets stunned a loit

[flint turret]

Yeah okay I didn't have that issues because I can't stun him anyway

[serene crane]

Why poison? 🤔 Acidfletch and some armor shred=>poison chance? Would need to take Bleeding Heart I guess for the healing

[pearl forge]

yea it is a bit weird i dont have a lot of stun but shock etc give more chance so he ends up being stunned

[undone dune]

idk why but shadowdaggers stuns him like crazy

[flint turret]

Yeah something like that

[serene crane]

I got 4LP of that bow

[serene crane]

Uber one? 🤔

[undone dune]

yeah

maybe it was just the bugged small idols

but i only had 2 of them

[sick ivy]

es vk takes 1min with good gear btw

[undone dune]

oh

so wtf is all the falconer hate

[sick ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm1zVIVCw3k

[undone dune]

ES is dong the smae shit

[pearl forge]

yea first kills i saw were wound 10 mins

then decent gear 4 mins and now people are getting cracked

[sick ivy]

i mean if you look at the gear on that vk. Full dps and and gigageared

[sick ivy]

falconer can kill it in same time with far less investment.

[pearl forge]

it all gets blurry as you get lots of gear

[sick ivy]

dude has double t7 world splitter

[undone dune]

i thought the first 10 min kills were judgment pallies not ES VKs

[loud arrow]

Oh I am not ever trying uber. Probably.

[pearl forge]

judge pallies took like 15 mins

[undone dune]

ok maybe true

[pearl forge]

but also first week es vk built more tanky most of the time

or were pallies that rerolled

[sick ivy]

vk had the first solo kill of uber

[undone dune]

i know it had the first, but it wasn't like the most popular day 1 from what I was watching

then again I was mostly watching the hardcore race at that point maybe I just missed it

[pearl forge]

ye pally was more popular just people saw you needed dmg too

that is when world splitters began to spike like crazy in price

i sold a 2lp one for 35 mil

in 2 days they were 600mil XD

[sick ivy]

yeah hardcore pally is just much safer. softcore ppl prolly 90% played vk who killed it in the first weeks

[undone dune]

now a 2lp is goldcap

[serene crane]

Wow... 😄

[undone dune]

also double t7 items are easier to make than you might think with impritning, he just got a lucky slam

[serene crane]

lowkey reminds me of D3 gold where it became insanely useless

[sick ivy]

i'm so glad i went cof this season, the inflation is just absolutely crazy every season

[undone dune]

you just buy/get lucky and find an item with 2 t7 suffixes, then imprint it to craft prefixes and get a semi lucky hvavoc

imprints drop often enough

[sick ivy]

yeah, but looking at the rolls he got really lucky with them too, close to max rolls

[loud arrow]

I wish there was a solutrion for the Merchant circle but I can't think of any because capitalism itself doesn't work without regulation. EHG would have to stablish caps/etc

[undone dune]

the inflation is caused by not having gold really ever leave the system

the buyer's paying taxes on items wasn't enough

[pearl forge]

mg is good for people that wont play a lot

i have gotten like 100b just playing like 2h a day and in weekends

[loud arrow]

that would make sense if they made enough gold to buy stuff

[wary cedar]

i think having another thing where you can spend gold would help, but would must be very disereable

[pearl forge]

uh if you dont make gold you are just being inefficient

[undone dune]

lightless arbor exists

[pearl forge]

yea arbor is goated to get runes

to roll items to sell

just most people are lazy or dont have the knowledge

[wary cedar]

thats not disereable

[pearl forge]

arbor used to be the way to also get exalteds

but now nemesis are way better

[slate mulch]

Most people don’t want to engage with the trade burden of knowledge imo which is perfectly understandable

[pearl forge]

yea then they dont need to be mg

cof is also more enjoyable

if you have time to play

[slate mulch]

Ye cof is prob the best solo arpg

1000x the grind tho

[pearl forge]

i think after i kill uber and do some other things i will quit but cool season

maybe do 1 or 2 guides more

[wet bear]

i found hachadino

[slate mulch]

Lmao

[pearl forge]

eeei

my goals for today reroll this fcker to 5 stats

maybe finally hit the 3lp slam on my sword

and do all my envy and aberroths

then i guess i go reroll echo then turtle

[slate mulch]

Only a matter of time for uber

I’m wondering for life based rogue defenses

Since rogue has so much dodge support

Is it better to just pump dodge

[pearl forge]

im using apo

[slate mulch]

apo?

[pearl forge]

apostacy

for 100% glancing

[undone dune]

Getting a lot of dodge can be good but i find that you dont want to forgo armor completely

[pearl forge]

otherwise you get 1 tapped by some things in uber

[undone dune]

armor is just more reliable

[pearl forge]

yea i have 3x%

[undone dune]

and glancing blows too

[slate mulch]

I see, so life based rogue can spec normally into HP END armor crit avoid then convert dodge to glancing

[pearl forge]

i have 0 crit avoid just use smoke for it

[slate mulch]

Yeah I saw a lot of rogue builds not use crit avoid either

I was wondering about that

Is endurance threshold worth investing into?

[pearl forge]

it is not easy to get a lot

but falconer has a really good node that gives up to 15%

[ripe flare]

neat

[wary cedar]

why +3 tho

[ripe flare]

cuz i still have several +2 peaks. and got t6 multishot and t5 dmg per arrow with multi (which i wanted, but health is also fine)

which i will

but for now, this is more than enough

[wary cedar]

get single t7 head, use rune to get T1 level of multishot, then havoc

[ripe flare]

im not even in empowered yet. so this will get me quite far for now

[serene crane]

Nevermind, thought I had 4LP 😕

[wary cedar]

do we allow him having fun tho?

oki

[frank olive]

is multishot still fine

[wanton sable]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oyLYy8yB
Hey guys, can anyoone help me understand this build? I just swapped to it from bow/quiver regular ub falconer and I feel like I do WAY less damage. Can anyone explain how to ramp the damage on it? I'm spamming everything and take a while to even kill orobyss whereas with UB I would kill orobyss in like 5 seconds

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 3,510, Regen: 47.8/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 199 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 89% / 92% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Dodge Chance: 64% (2935)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,221)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 39%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Smoke Bomb / Aerial Assault / Umbral Blades / Falconry / Dive Bomb

[serene crane]

Kinda crap damage for now, but it looks fun

[slim breach]

Interesting, what skills you using

Also shame hoard doesn't somehow interact with acidfletch (...or does it?)

[serene crane]

@terse bloom Dr.JUSE to the rescue! 🤓

[serene crane]

Lowkey no idea about Hs too much... 😄 Smoke for traversal+blind+cleanse+Dusk; Decoy for dodge=>crit multi (Salt gloves); Puncture for aoe clear triggered by Hs... not a great fun of HoA buuut it lowkey works as another Dusk generator+frailty+poison... its just a bit hungry for mana to do all of that for now

[undone dune]

Daggers is a divebomb build not a umbral blades build

when clearing echos its recommended to put the missing points back into the umbral blades tree to get heexplosions/spins as that will proc extra shadow daggers for more aoe clear at the cost of divebomb burst

but most of the damage will still come from the bird hitting targets inside your smokebomb which is a slow process comparitevly

[frank olive]

rip i like multishot a bit more

still thinking whether i should reroll my falconer into a marksmen tho

[undone dune]

multishot was good because you could shotgun hit the same target 8(?) times. HS can hit the same target 20 with 1 cast

[frank olive]

is the version with puncture procs still the best

i have a 3LP ice quiver

could do something with that

[serene crane]

Like turtling it?

[loud arrow]

LEtools says the Talons of Valor is common but I only ever saw one drop ever. Of course it was t he LP3 I am using but gee

[frank olive]

3LP -> 4LP

always a chance

even tho theres no reason for me to gamba using the 3 lp one

[paper leaf]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oNPnO39Q
_ today i did a few upgrade ^_^
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Davyray/character/Davyray_Heartseeker

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (68) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,055, Regen: 37.26/s
▸ Mana: 200.34, Regen: 13.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 104 Dex / 13 Int / 28 Att / 39 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 201% / 107% / 115% / 92% / 91% / 96%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 1,273
▸ Dodge Chance: 51% (1965)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (872)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 105%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver / Shift

[frank olive]

4LP ball and quiver

brother is rich

[paper leaf]

i've a 3lp elecoe but idk what put on it, there is a belt with t7cold t7 hybrid healt on market but rest is bad af :C

[frank olive]

why elecoe may i ask

[paper leaf]

i was thinking t7healt hybrid, t5 cold t5 res

[paper leaf]

coz there aren't 3lp brewmaster and eleoce give a lot of for me
40% implicit cold res +- , 20%+ crit multi and since i've around 70% crit there is a high chance that i get a lot of ward if i spam flask

the issue is that my brewmaster atm give me around 510 hp

[frank olive]

hmmm ok i might farm one for a heartseeker reroll

[paper leaf]

just a brewmaster without extra mods give me around 100hp

soo i was thinking to put double hp on elecoe but probably double t7 is better

[serene crane]

ah dawg god dayumn cant wait for absolute crap rolls

[paper leaf]

Glgl

[frank olive]

eyo 23 is possible?

[serene crane]

😎

[paper leaf]

F

[paper leaf]

yeye

[serene crane]

Max is 28 I think

[paper leaf]

i should use my amber to buy strongbox maps é_é

[frank olive]

strongbox without the strong

cus nothing comes out to beat you

[paper leaf]

lizards c ome out é_é

[wary cedar]

buy tower

honestly

its the best

[paper leaf]

tower of nemesis? O_o

[wary cedar]

ye

[serene crane]

Also about Hoard quiver... I might be wrong, but If you convert HoA to poison, Hoard should just do poison aswell

[frank olive]

wait, dark quiver?

[paper leaf]

ye why not?

[frank olive]

hmmm

its good?

i hate using dark quiver

i think i wont use it

[wary cedar]

you dont use it

its auto summon dark arrows

for buffs

[frank olive]

ye but u have to pick them up right?

[wary cedar]

you collect them on the way

somehow

without focusing on it

[paper leaf]

i cast it only under boss , never notice while mapping @frank olive

[frank olive]

ah ok

ill see if i can farm that bow

if i can slam a nice 2LP one ill switch

[wary cedar]

play dragonfire

more dps

[frank olive]

i hate melee style

i also like the punctures flying around

[wary cedar]

i still have this

[wary cedar]

just get increased area for skills lmao

[serene crane]

Only t6 but this is lowkey insane

[frank olive]

seal throwing atk speed

[serene crane]

Im not hitting that t3... 😄

[wary cedar]

can try rune of removal after that

[serene crane]

now I like the sound of gambling

[elder condor]

https://youtu.be/7cx7sw2WWJ0?si=HhioK1sdp5atrR3s the rogues have just won everything…

[serene crane]

Djesus

[frank olive]

*the falconers

[serene crane]

also no blessings, who would need blessings

Would be funny to re-do this in online tho, but still... 😄

[frank olive]

its blue gear

[serene crane]

Yea, thats why I said 'but still' 😛

WELL

Im getting near 999+ poison stacks, thats pretty cool

[chilly tulip]

hello i see lot of ppl using this for falconer but i don't understand why? (mby because it's one of the only stuff that increase aoe for smoke and umbral blade?)

[frank olive]

+throwing and all res i guess?

[wary cedar]

tiem to redemption

[serene crane]

Movement speed is also free damage increase

[chilly tulip]

wdym damage increase? ik ms is really good but that does not buff damage

[serene crane]

DO youreally want to tho? 🤔

[serene crane]

core rogue

[chilly tulip]

ho right i forget what base rogue tree do, i never touch it lmao

[serene crane]

base rogue has some really good stuff tho

[north crow]

can anyone offer advice on how i should progress my UB falconer? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qn4PJw8o
i know what i need to do (get more health, dex, armor, cdr) but not sure on best way to do it
boss damage is good but clear is bad + im dying a lot. can't do things like gauntlet of strife, 300 corruption, etc

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 98

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (75)

General:

▸ Health: 1,970, Regen: 169.21/s
▸ Mana: 101.5, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 108 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 79% / 121% / 64% / 91% / 133% / 50%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 394
▸ Dodge Chance: 46% (1656)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,195)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

Used skills:

Dive Bomb / Explosive Trap / Smoke Bomb / Falconry / Aerial Assault

[wary cedar]

why not?

[round depot]

Is sd, umbreal dB still viable ? Or was nerfed ?

[serene crane]

Suffixes are great, ofc its not t7 hybrid life, but 40% ele resists is great, can swap att to dex if needed... just chaos that melee, but it could also be good to some build 😄

[pearl forge]

1 step closer guys https://www.twitch.tv/hachadino/clip/ChillyBloodyLlamaAsianGlow-P2jv5DAwPCUIPt9U

[wary cedar]

i need dex, increase area, and physical res

[pearl forge]

finally after 7 3lp slams

just after i was about to run out of exalteds

[wanton sable]

Why is it that my faconry skill still stops me? I have intuitive passive

[dark chasm]

is it still possible to use the weaver tree to print/duplicate uniques with the imprinting drops?

Especially Red Ring of atlaria - my friend said you can no longer imrpint red ring is that true?

i dont see a patch note saying they changed it on the community page

or im missing it

im lvl 80, and just unlocking the weaver tree and stuff and figuring it out, so I havent been following whats been happening since the 2.0 launch been playing slow on my own

[daring yew]

You can. It wasn't working as intended and they recently fixed it. It's supposed to give you similar items, not exact duplicates of the same unique

[paper leaf]

ok done, just sad coz wasn't t5 %life but still good

now my tooltip is

[wary cedar]

i still have more >:D

[paper leaf]

ye but i've a shitons of tankiness é_é

[wary cedar]

for what tho? x)

[paper leaf]

to do uber abby

[wary cedar]

i can do it too

just need to get lucky on dodge checks

[paper leaf]

ye but i've no hands

[serene crane]

100corruption...

[serene crane]

almost the same

[jaunty condor]

You could consider some of the marksman nodes for more dodge, MS, DR. Other than that you can work on your gear some

Get a peak of the mountain with 2-3LP

and then you can swap out a lot of the crit idols for Health/res

[wary cedar]

🚀

[jaunty condor]

Can you do abberoth you can go farm a 1LP null for some dmg reduction

Can try target farm some blood roost gloves as well

which is basically unlimited sustain

Your bow also has the wrong slam on it

should get the Flat crit+AS one instead

[valid trench]

is the maxroll Umbral Blades Falconer guide decent? Been following it but always wary of maxroll

[round depot]

If u want a Falconer Build Go JUSE on yt Best there is

[novel rune]

the juse dagger version is sick

[round depot]

Already a new on

😂 1,56 sec abberoth

[novel rune]

oh even better one damn

[round depot]

No daggers

2 Hand axe

And another Body

Sick

On 6k + Corr Already

[novel rune]

cool

falconer nerffed btw kapp

[valid trench]

yeah, I am running the bow but everything else I saw seems to be daggers

[vital tiger]

What's rouge 20 points best to get?

[jaunty condor]

juse one is kinda trash for echos and such though

unless you are doing like 3-4k

[serene crane]

Kinda depends what you need, but I usually go 1/8 Guile, 5/5 Evasion, 5/5 Agility, 5/5 Dodge and Parry; then either Steady Hand/Twin Blade/Swift Assa... Sapping Strikes can also be great, but that really depends

[valid trench]

I mean lizzard irl wrote the maxroll guide and my understanding is he is pretty decent?

I only know the right poe content creators to trust lol

[jaunty condor]

Maxroll guides are pretty OK for LE

atleast untill you get into full minmaxing

[north crow]

true. thanks!

[paper leaf]

idk, how? Q_Q

i'm waiting the refresh

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Davyray/character/Davyray_Heartseeker

i was waiting the refresh on the website coz i changed belt

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qk1re4Oo

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (68) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,921, Regen: 37.26/s
▸ Mana: 200.34, Regen: 13.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 104 Dex / 13 Int / 28 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 245% / 107% / 115% / 92% / 82% / 122%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 1,226
▸ Dodge Chance: 51% (1965)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (599)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 105%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver / Shift

[paper leaf]

normal abberoth? I will test later but i'm not that fast

i'm playing with a friend on another game, we will finish soon

[flint turret]

Crit nodes in hs inflate It big time while doing nothing

[paper leaf]

idk, ye i've crit nodes coz on tooltip it give a lot of dmg but i can remove them and put 3 nodes on atk speed

or idk

vs boss probably 4 nodes on atk speed is better than crit multi

[flint turret]

Surely it's better to not use either

There are no spare points is hs

Unless you are 30+

[thin quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIb1YS011yo
he didnt even talk about why CoF is just better in this season 😭

[flint turret]

Chill recurve or slow

[thin quartz]

yeah he went to try MG to have a feel for it. tons of MG players convinced him

[novel rune]

yeah, and MG is mega powerful compared to CoF

frozen rolled an MG version of his build and on first day had way better idols and gear than his CoF setup of numerous days

[thin quartz]

did... you watch the video that i linked

[novel rune]

turns out, just being able to buy what you want is strong

no, im just talking about what he said on stream

[thin quartz]

that's the latest video he posted. you might wanna... watch it

[novel rune]

i dont play the season anymore

[thin quartz]

nothing to do with the season.

[novel rune]

i watched the start and he said "i still think mg is better than CoF"

[thin quartz]

he gave his thought regarding both faction and as i mentioned above, he didnt even touch on why CoF is better this season

[novel rune]

i know MG has its issues, like inflation due to lack of proper gold sink and dupes etc

and the vendors are ass

not sure if we have experienced a single patch without a dupe, since MG was added to the game

[thin quartz]

i know right. why would he make a 16 min video when all you need is the first 30 seconds in.

some people😵

[novel rune]

lol, i know he enjoys CoF more, that doesnt make it better

you play what you enjoy ofc

for the record i mainly play CoF myself too

[slate mulch]

what would be the best way to juice single target dmg on shadow cascade?

[pearl forge]

get aoe for overlaps

then general dmg

[slate mulch]

general as in general physical damage or just damage affixes in general

[pearl forge]

for cascade you have many things yea like idols and affixes

[slate mulch]

o i c, got it, so build mechanics wise theres not much to do other than take the generic multis every build takes and try to overklap the shadows

[pearl forge]

yea phys pen dmg with shadows etc

[serene crane]

holy f I dropped even better ones 100c drops are wiiiild

[pearl forge]

oh no this will be a pain to reroll

also natty nemesis first 2lp

[daring yew]

Big

Based core of the mountain enjoyer. Such a nice chestpiece

[serene crane]

ah that flat... 😦

[pearl forge]

wonder how many nemesis will i need to do to get a 2 stat legendary

to reroll

[slate mulch]

is there a reason why core of the mountain seems to be less popular among builds i see?

the stats seem very nice for life builds

[pearl forge]

does not give a lot of tankyness

null/titan are quite better for that

but you can also go more tanky on idols

and use core

as long as you dont get 1 tapped it is not a bad chest

being immune is quite strong

if only that immunity worked with the first hit you could tank the big slam of aberroth

[slate mulch]

oh yeah i reread it and it only priovides immunity after the 1st hit

makes it marginally less useful

[winter stratus]

When birb drops umbral blades, it does my throwing damage, not minions throwing damage, correct?

[undone dune]

core of the mountains effect feels like a weaker wall of nothing

this is just not great against 1 shots

[pearl forge]

you only go core if you know you are not getting 1 shot

it is a bit more dmg

well usually when you have 3700 life and double rr and uber relic

you are not getting 1 tapped

[gentle basalt]

core is just ez way to enable red rings and cap endu

[thin quartz]

i have a dream for lp4 row

[slate mulch]

man i have like severe build adhd

[pearl forge]

ahaha

[slate mulch]

whenever i gear for one i want to play another

ive played like 5 different blade dancers

in hte 1 week ive played lol

[undone dune]

i see

so why not just use kestrel

[pearl forge]

no dex either

[undone dune]

oh is it not?

[thin quartz]

i just think both of them are for different usage

[undone dune]

i must be missrembering

[bold mortar]

Unique imprints dead? Need new red rings and jungle belt

[undone dune]

unique imprints were super nerfed

[pearl forge]

core is a thing you equip after you are already quilted in idols and other big hp things

[thin quartz]

3 second immune basically helps with tons of multiple hit... which i think its echo running.
where wall gives you more ehp.

[undone dune]

im getting random unique rings and not redrings from echo completion

[pearl forge]

they didnt nerf imprint

[summer sedge]

is lightning chakram damage uber viable?

[pearl forge]

they just fixed a bug of the imprint not dropping other uniques

as it should

people just dont know how to read

and interpret

maybe they saw the letters

but didnt understand

[undone dune]

its not clear if not dropping other uniques was increasing the odds at the one you wanted or not

[bold mortar]

It's still a nerf even if it's a bug fix. Holy shit this community is pedantic

[undone dune]

well it might not be a nerf if the imprint was just doing nothing instead of procing

its not clear if its a nerf or not

but i can tell you it sure feels like a nerf

i used to get a razorfall like every other unclaimed trove, now i get one like every 6-8

migth just be bad luck

and unclaimed trove has 10 caches

sounds about right

per this thing

which is named "unclaimed trove"

[bold mortar]

T7t7 drops still getting printed but you can't cache jewelry

Or wait can you cache jewelry

[undone dune]

no

i was trying to print unique boots

which I assume follows similar rules to unique jewelry from echo completion

[pearl forge]

ward is quite interactive

hard to do

[novel rune]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ward you can use stuff like that calc wards

but beyond this there isnt really anything

unless you wanna spreadsheet it out

[undone dune]

I think LE tools lets you input how much ward you think you will have yourself and then uses that to calc your EHP

[vital ridge]

Umbral Blades still the kinda OP rogue build?

[serene crane]

[flint turret]

2k gaming

1 dead pixel

[serene crane]

Well... I missed my t5 hybrid health on 3LP belt... havent slammed 2LP boots and gloves yet either and still need to slam 2LP Bleeding Heart and 3LP Acidfletch

Have you seen the two gloves I dropped today tho? 😄

[pearl forge]

i missed cdr twice on belt

and on shoes i did hit dex and hybrid

i kinda want cdr too but making more t7 t6 would take too long

[serene crane]

Im thinking If I want t7 cdr on boots aswell on the belt which I currently have... would be kinda nice with traversal smoke 😄 but I could just take t7 hybrid/movement speed instead

getting close to Null

btw this acid flask enchant is soooo nice

[undone dune]

does it do anything yet?

[serene crane]

wdym?

[undone dune]

i usd it for a while and never saw a flask get thrown

[serene crane]

I see the flasks all the time 😄

[gentle basalt]

it has 3 second cd mentioned on le tools and it also kinda felt like that too, def havent seen them being thrown often at least

but maybe it was just my bad attack speed at that point. if it doesnt have cooldown then stacking it might be interesting

[undone dune]

well i was using it with HS so bow hit should be very often

and i wasn't seeing any flasks but maybe im blind at nd it was one every 3 seconds

[serene crane]

ezpz

[thin quartz]

i just saw ballista rogue at 8k corruption

[pearl forge]

just dont get hit

[ripe storm]

Silly querestion - but I am respeccing into falconer zhp ballista - what is this buff? I feel like I am blind and cannot find where it is coming from (not the falcon) - the crossbow looking icon

it seems mostly persistent

[thin quartz]

that's your ballista, literally it.

its a minion icon

[ripe storm]

even if its not spawned?

[thin quartz]

now that is something i have not seen before

[ripe storm]

that is why im confused lol

ive gone through all passives and skills - plus read all i can on the maxroll guide 😛

the green bar also slowly grows / goes up

[ripe storm]

turns out it is from my relic

[slim breach]

Crossbro

[thin quartz]

ahhhh. TIL

[grim hawk]

Do any of you use Dark Quiver? The benefits seem good but I don't like having to pick stuff up lol

And yes I realize the irony of not liking having to pick stuff up in a game that involves a lot of picking stuff up

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (20) / Falconer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 2,666, Regen: 30.29/s
▸ Mana: 164.49, Regen: 11.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 18/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 154 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 98% / 98% / 159% / 81% / 100% / 94%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 533
▸ Dodge Chance: 54% (2086)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,482)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Used skills:

Falconry / Aerial Assault / Umbral Blades / Dive Bomb / Smoke Bomb

[violet idol]

have 4 lp peak on stash (no slam yet), and probably missing a t7 dex on a red ring. Will it be enough for uber abby? 🤔

[slate mulch]

wtf i dropped a near maxrolled red ring

and im only at 300 corr

how much different are uber aberroth mechanics than normal?

normal seems fairly doable

learnable*

[muted roost]

Hey guys can someone recommend something to swap mirage strike out with? I feel like I dont ever use it

My build is focused on generating shadows and then dealing damage with cascade

[graceful moth]

anyone have a ballista falconer strict late game loot filter?

[undone dune]

could try swapping LM to umbral baldes i guess, not to actualy use but theres a node that make shadows throw htem when they go away, and another to make them apply shadow daggers, this might add some inciental damage

or you could just try using LM more i feel like it does a ton of damage

[muted roost]

oh shadow daggers is great

ty Ill try going for that node since I got shadow dagger focus too

[undone dune]

yeah that type of BD normally is

try something like this maybe

I havn't tried this for BD myself but in theory it should work

assuming you are dual wielding here

[muted roost]

I am yeah

using dual daggers but ngl my gear is lacking so im really just hitting like 8k on crits

trying to get that umbral cloak

[slate mulch]

ok so im ruinning shurikens right now, and using the life leech on thrown weapons blessing in preparation for uber aberroth when i get there

if im relying on leech, should mty defensive priorities be simply to maximize life, endurance, and armor?

rather than say dodge or a ward layer

[meager ice]

guys, noob question...but can someone explain me what shadows on rogue actually do

[tough viper]

Wanna ask for some advice... is boneclamor barbute a good helmet for low life rouge builds? I see most people not using it and use various purple helmets instead =/'

[slate mulch]

Seems like it would not be bad for ward retention

In my limited experience rogue sucks at getting resistances though

Necrotic being one of the worse offenders

So you’d have to juice up a ton of necrotic resistance on gear

I see a lot of low life builds simply juice up dodge as a result which has a lot more natural synergy with the class

[tough viper]

oh okay..

I mean currently im overcapped on necrotic resistances even without the helmet lmao so i was considering it.. but yeah my other resistances are pretty scuffed rn

[undone dune]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/create_shadow is the defualt behavior, other skills add other interactions

[slate mulch]

Bear in mind I’m no expert on the game, @pearl forge was thinking of using barbute so he probably has a good idea of how to use it effectively

[tough viper]

its fine... im terrible too rofl

[slate mulch]

Yeah I’m learning everything

The last time I played was like 0.9 or something

And I just followed a guide without thinking for myself

So I still have no idea what’s going on lol

[tulip pumice]

What's the difference in the explosive trap version of umbral blades falconer and the maxroll version?

[charred ember]

best part of playing rogue is entering a monolith and getting instagibbed by a pack of spine hunters before I can even react with any of my dodges!

and it's not like any of the builds I could swap to are tanky either... there's a reason rogue is my lowest level at 66. super squishy.

unless y'all got advice.

[slate mulch]

It simply be that way lol

[charred ember]

like I wanna like it, bow builds were super fun in PoE for me, but I didn't even have time to hit any of my three movement abilities before the pack killed me

[undone dune]

just gotta kill them before they can attack

its the only way

[charred ember]

I got off one shot of Heartseeker and tried to hit Q to smoke bomb

dead

[undone dune]

that seems not like my experience

how much health do you have?

[charred ember]

like 5

at least it feels that way

[slate mulch]

It spooks me to see builds relying on blind for crit avoidance

[undone dune]

its good!

[slate mulch]

Do you find there’s a risk of getting blasted from range before the blind applies?

[charred ember]

945, lvl 66, doing Ending the Storm for leveling.

[undone dune]

945 is still pretty low for mid level 60s

[charred ember]

those ice giants and the bloody fire bugs 😡

[undone dune]

i generally try to enter monoliths at like 1500 life

[charred ember]

I don't think even my paladin has that much

and he's 97

[undone dune]

i care way more about life than any resist, i just fix those with idols laiter

[slate mulch]

Early monos can be brutal if you don’t have the base defensives

[charred ember]

I don't know where you people are getting health without slamming uniques with it, half the builds are just uniques.

[undone dune]

just ascendance a dragonsong and use random rares with healht suffixes in every other slot

i highlight those specifically in my filter untill level 50

[charred ember]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe4rKlnA

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 66

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (1) / Marksman (53) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 945, Regen: 21.34/s
▸ Mana: 151.93, Regen: 8.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 9/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 22 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 43% / 143% / 103% / 8% / 10% / 94% / 86%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 189
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (214)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 9% (126)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 16% (90)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Shift / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Cinder Strike

[slate mulch]

Kestrel is paper armor

[charred ember]

well I can't use the Null Portent for another 15 levels

[undone dune]

yeah you could get a lot of life just swapping kestrel for a random rare with t5+health/health

[slate mulch]

Dang you dropped a null portent?

[undone dune]

the +1de skills isn't doing mch for you yet

also those gloves are doing very little for you

[slate mulch]

Early monos have low enough HP wher you could probably swap most uniques for normal gear with HP and do fine

[undone dune]

and you should be using healht idols not firepen idols

[charred ember]

yeah I don't have any rogue armor

[undone dune]

your build is like 65% cold damage

[charred ember]

<_>

[undone dune]

well maybe not yet becuase you dont have much dex

[charred ember]

maxroll lies

[undone dune]

but long term it actually does more cold than fire

becuase morningforst goes brr

[charred ember]

I don't have any rogue armor that isn't unique.

[undone dune]

sounds like a lot filter issue

[charred ember]

found one, actually.

[undone dune]

could thrown on a titan heart tbh

until null

[charred ember]

T6 Health and T6 armor shred

[undone dune]

you dont need armor shred in this build

HS gets more than enough stacks from tree

armor shred does almost nothing after 100 stacks are on the target

[charred ember]

I'm just saying what it has

32 stash tabs full of junk and I can't make a single good build

[slate mulch]

T6 HP is great

[charred ember]

I got a 1LP blood roost, maybe I should swap to falconer

[undone dune]

falconer will feel way squishier than marksman with your gear

[slate mulch]

I’m running shurikens with life leech rn, currently using a life based setup with foot of the mountain and apostasy. Do you feel like for life leech investing into armor is better or dodge?

[undone dune]

well valex is using peak so no life leech for him

[slate mulch]

Oh sorry I was asking for advice regarding a build I was trying out

[undone dune]

in geeneral though I find foot of the mountain strange to use i never have stacks

im never not moving as a rogue

esepcially with WASD

[slate mulch]

true ill have to pay attention as to whether the stacks actually apply during brief pauses

[undone dune]

what skil are you using?

just shurikens?

[slate mulch]

Shuriken synchronized strike shift smoke bomb

[undone dune]

3 of those are movement skills which disable fotm

[slate mulch]

It may just be placebo that I feel tankier with it

[undone dune]

well it does give you a ton of endurance

if you have any threshold it probably is helping

[slate mulch]

yeah it was a convenient way for me to cap it out with brewmaster belt

[undone dune]

i just dont think you are getting any threshold from it

[slate mulch]

it’s also providing all attributes for red ring

so I’m scratching my head as to a replacement

In general if I’m relying on life leech would armor be better than dodge?

[undone dune]

probably

[slate mulch]

Makes sense

[undone dune]

dodge also likes leech though its not that binary

armor is really good with endurance

and glancing blows

[slate mulch]

yeah, I’m currently converting what dodge I have to glancing blows, but I’m not specifically speccing into it by getting more dodge

[tough viper]

hi guys, if im running out shadow cascade rouge, should I be running with smoke weaver or scissors as my primary?

[undone dune]

wait does double convert even work?

[slate mulch]

Double convert?

[charred ember]

now I need resists