🔪┃rogue

[serene crane]

Bro Im trying to run with Sync Strike instead of decoys, but the mana... 💀 insta bleed, shadows and crimsons are nice for the inicial LM burst tho... 😄

[dusky schooner]

what are full stats on the amulet?

[flint turret]

Yeah having that coated blades on sync use is brutal

[daring yew]

Gl slamming it

[serene crane]

I can somewhat do safely 4x LM with sync, 5 shadows because of Smoke and LM generation too, but then its just a little waiting room for mana 😄 Decoys give me 2 shadows aswell, some dodge=>crit multi, but not as stable 15bleeds and no Crimson...I could run the BD's passive from 40% crimson shroud, but thats like gambling? 😄

[flint turret]

Is it tho? When falconers here posting 100 Uber Abby kill results in the amount of lp shattered they got. And they had this level of power since it's release in 1.0 and never were nerfed hard, while in the whole game only 3bds ever managed to kill Uber Abby

[graceful hare]

It's a theory craft, with T7 minion dmg, T5 increased dot, t5 health and t5 dodge.
But I know you should never plan with more then 2 affixes on a WW item 😄

But seeing the emphasis on Minion Dmg, and seeing the source, I was/am really surprised. Even more as you back my first assumption that is should not work

[dusky schooner]

yeah but how many people are playing bd and how many are playing falconer?

[flint turret]

Not 250x times more that's for sure

[dusky schooner]

it very well could be 250x more

[serene crane]

Definitely is 😄

[flint turret]

No they shared stats, it's around 22% vs 3%

[serene crane]

the only reason there isnt even more falconers is the new MM skill

[graceful hare]

Doesn't justify to blame Falconer players all the time, I blame the balance for this.

[dusky schooner]

and then within those stats, who actually reaches the level to do uber aberoth

[graceful hare]

And you are absolutely right with your inventory here, don't get me wrong

[serene crane]

Big majority of them? 😄

[dusky schooner]

i mean of bd

[flint turret]

But no one is bashing falconer players tho?

[dusky schooner]

what if they quit at 100 corr

[warm zephyr]

does anyone take the Black Arrow node on Heartseeker? I can't really see a use case for it over other nodes

[pearl forge]

im getting close for sure tomorrow i kill guys

but now i will shower then farm some more

[dusky schooner]

maybe its not a build im familiar with then. Of the stats that I could think that help on an amulet, crit multi (on inheritence) should be best. Throwing damage should be excellent, and doesn't require inheritence. Minion damage is good, same as throwing. If it's a dot based build, I don't know enough to comment

[pearl forge]

think maybe after changing idols i go core of the mountain instead of titan

[graceful hare]

At least that was my perception recently.

[pearl forge]

im not getting 1 shot anymore by anything

[flint turret]

It's free black arrows, no downsides, why not

[warm zephyr]

opportunity cost vs other nodes

[pearl forge]

black arrows are gnarly amps tho

[graceful hare]

Btw, not everyone with a Falconer kills Uber, and not everyone doing it, ignores every mechanic and kills him in 10 seconds. Just wanna mention

[serene crane]

They try Uberroth, they get oneshotted by literally anything at Uberroth's health being 99%, they never go there again or reroll 😄

[pearl forge]

no one kills in 10 secs but 2 mins etc is already very fast

[flint turret]

1 point doesn't make much difference, but having free black arrows that give tons of dusk shrouds, recurve, shadows, frenzy or crimson shrouds does

[graceful hare]

That is not totally true 😄

[pearl forge]

i think even if do everything kinda well it will take me around 5 mins

[graceful hare]

I think 8 was the fastest I've seen ^^

[pearl forge]

there is already a sub 10 secs uber?

[graceful hare]

ye

[pearl forge]

damn big blasters

[serene crane]

...8min Uberroth kill with falconer? 😄

[warm zephyr]

for one attack... idk, I guess we just see the value of it differently. alright

[daring yew]

Fastest I've seen is 27s by a falconer

There is prob faster by now

[pearl forge]

yea the 8 secs one must be cracked

although i guess there comes a time where you can just go full dmg

[daring yew]

How do you even do that with his phasing?

[flint turret]

Dusk shrouds, frenzy and crimsons are not for 1 attack

[pearl forge]

yea i wonder you ahve to kill the 2 harbis too

[graceful hare]

I don't kill him at all ^^

[serene crane]

You probably do so much damage you dont even care about his phasing DR

[pearl forge]

and they take at least 2 secs to spawn

so maybe we are getting trolled

[daring yew]

That's wild

[obtuse hamlet]

Has anyone here managed to make poison/bleed scale into super endgame? I have tried it out and cant get it to scale to 900+ corruption

[warm zephyr]

yes, you're right, they're for 4s, 3s, and 5s

[serene crane]

Nah bro those harbringers disappear before they even get the change for their model to load

[daring yew]

My giga tank shield basher can get him to 70% in 5 minutes :^)

[flint turret]

Yeah I don't recommend taking it 3/3, but 1/3 is pretty good on bosses

[warm zephyr]

if the # of arrows per 2s scaled too I'd maybe consider it more favorably

[flint turret]

Yeah that's exactly why I don't see a reason to max it

You will get those 2-3 black arrows anyway with 1/3

Took only 3 weeks to fix

After a months of cbt*

Makes sense we had those issues running as 3

Something was wrong for sure

[bold brook]

this is nice

[boreal walrus]

[flint turret]

Fixed a bug where Heartseeker would target invulnerable enemies.

Big for Uber Abby

I hated those harbs ngl

[short pawn]

@flint turret did you cook anything decent with row fire conversion Hs ?

[flint turret]

There is no need to cook anything really, it just works as is. You use row but convert to fire and get dragon fang nodes. Swap cold shred blessings to phys/cold res, and enjoy your upgraded clear with punctures

I climbed to 1500 yesterday and the clear was still fine

[eternal phoenix]

possible the best news i read in a while

i hate those lazor coz its stunlock me 90% of the time

[flint turret]

God I hated them stunning so much

[eternal phoenix]

I KNOW RIGHT!!!

it stun you and you get hit/sec.

so resulting in perma stun

[dreamy quail]

bleed dive bomb is the most busted one i know

[eternal phoenix]

its coz of JUSE isn't it? xD

[dreamy quail]

yea lol

[thin quartz]

big

[paper leaf]

what? new patch?

[junior oriole]

the best news is stash search

[thin quartz]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

IKR

[junior oriole]

we are not far from full sql support for stash

[paper leaf]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-patch-1-2-3-notes/77541

O_O

[junior oriole]

once we have that, no need to organize stash..just search

[thin quartz]

1v1 me bro

[manic prism]

this kinda fixes moving around when clicking things on a tab i guess

[eternal phoenix]

one of the best news indeed

[flint turret]

Holy crap the new stash searches

It's giga qol

[paper leaf]

regex for trade when?

[eternal phoenix]

was happy on the tangle laser but damn stash macro qol, i love it

[thin quartz]

they didnt fix this 🥺

[dusky schooner]

bc of vit

[serene crane]

Yep 😄

[junior oriole]

it's actually amazing that it works that way @thin quartz

it's a feature not a bug

[spark swan]

nope, intended feature

[thin quartz]

oh is it.. mind explaining. im confused about this

because vit gives necro res?

[flint turret]

Type necrotic resis, should work

[spark swan]

Yes intended feature

[thin quartz]

ahhhhhhh....

[eternal phoenix]

yup, looks about right

[tough viper]

Was wondering.. how viable is flurry blade dancer? it seems like its a completely out of meta build =/

[thin quartz]

tbh tho, who's gonna remember all those commands for stash search

[flint turret]

Same goes for "fire" if you type it it will show elental res too but if you type "fire resi" it will show only fire

At least that's how I remember it

[eternal phoenix]

for now it might not be easy to remember all those macro but intime we will get used to it

[thin quartz]

nope didnt work

[flint turret]

Hmmm

I'll login and check, I somehow searched for them just don't remember how

[junior oriole]

too bad macros can't be combined with text search just searched LP0&World splitter and got nothing:(

[paper leaf]

any idea of the price of those? 1b? 1 000 000 000 ???
There are few on market but no one with max roll of attributes and speed

[serene crane]

gold limit, ez

[terse bloom]

Fixed a bug where the Loom Walker idol (increased stun chance and added stun avoidance) was acting as a multiplier to other sources of increased stun chance, rather than adding to them.

[thin quartz]

i survive 2 lazer at me together now

[eternal phoenix]

NOICE

2 even

[paper leaf]

is this the green laser? >_>

[eternal phoenix]

yeah

that stun you and while you stun, it is hit based so it stun you more

[dreamy quail]

time to recheck your build

[wary cedar]

do oyu also have issues that sometimes your abilities dont cast since the patch????????????????

[eternal phoenix]

and hurt like sh*t

[eternal phoenix]

totally gold limit, 3LP and all the important stat %

[serene crane]

You might even wait for Hachadino to get enough gold to snipe it from the market with you

[thin quartz]

omg.. they made phoenix shine not so bright...... i love ittttt

[manic prism]

somethings off with wasd

ah new experimentel setting is on by default

[wary cedar]

noooo, where do i get my eye cancer now form?

[serene crane]

Not even close

[wary cedar]

after this cycle i will propably join you in legacy gaming

[wanton sable]

What's the best falconer build right now? Juses is doing a bleed one now?
Is there a best all around that's good at mapping and at uber ab?

[serene crane]

The superior place to play

[wary cedar]

i think falconer isnt that good this season

[wanton sable]

Really? I feel like everyone talks about either ES vk or UB Falconer

[wary cedar]

so you already know the builds? why you asking then? x)

[wanton sable]

Oh ew you're a weirdo.
I'm asking which variant is best of falconer. There's UB, Midnight aviary, bleeding, void damage, etc.

[serene crane]

Void damage? 😄

That sounds new

[wanton sable]

Idk I'm just tryna figure out which is best lol I see so many vids and I'm new

[wary cedar]

if you just wanna have the best, i think you will lose fun to play quickly

[wanton sable]

I think your definition of fun is your own and mine is my own so if you have nothing to add, mind your business 🙂

[vernal zealot]

hey when do we swap from umbral blades to explosie trap? is that just purely for bossing?

(falconer)

[serene crane]

They're all busted to absolutely dumb minimum so it doesnt really matter which one you pick to clear the very endgame, just take the one you enjoy

[vagrant lodge]

is it normal to struggle with clearing hordes in the early game (pre-End of Time)? coming from mage, which is the only other class ive played since 2023, so idk if my view is skewed

[wary cedar]

dragonsong really fked up my tooltip dmg tho 😭

how can you be so smart in the words you do?

[slim breach]

Depends on what skills you're using but there's less aoe yeah

Might take you one hit to kill one guy but if there's 20 it sucks, vs mage using two to kill 10 kind of thing

Especially without stuff like spreading flames to carry you through the entire early game

[serene crane]

Fire is like ape... ape alone... weak... apes together... strong! fire with more fire? More fire strong

write that down

[wary cedar]

the fact i really hate with fire is that i gonna have to change my skin ....

[vagrant lodge]

so far ive specced evade and flurry for defense/traversal and focusing on single targets because those are usually the bigger threat, so adds are more of an annoyance atm, was just wondering if it gets better

[cosmic briar]

Void damage falconer?

Can u show?

[little flower]

New Juse video dropped, regular abby kill in about half a second, right after that the patch dropped and nerfed his idols xd

obv falconer bad blah blah but i love when people find ways to break the game like this

[slim breach]

Yup. Every spec has skills that'll crush up to empowered with little difficulty

[lone beacon]

Hope he comes up with a mapping build. Falconer kinda slow with having to position yourself all the time. Squishy too.

[wary cedar]

omg they gave me back the items i tought are lost

lmao

[little flower]

im mapping fine on one of his builds, i just tweaked umbral blades a bit and clear is good.

[little flower]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/6u5gd04u

oh wait it didnt update umbral blades

that instead of sync strike

[lone beacon]

yep I have the same and still find it slower than my previous builds., Well that's mostly Aerial Assault's fault for being too slow tbh.

[little flower]

yeah there will always be a certain level of clunk to its mapping unfortunately. I still fly through but it feels so awkawrd lol

[serene crane]

Love this shit

[warm zephyr]

Overkill Damage: 1
💀

(my own death, not commenting on above)

[wary cedar]

some of the lowest rolls i saw lmao

[serene crane]

Damn, what

[wary cedar]

(Crit)

[serene crane]

Nah, Im done with that fight 😄

[little flower]

lol the ice and fire black holes are the only things that kill me consistently at this point

if i can get him to 60%ish hp before slam he skips black hole most the time

AYO

[wary cedar]

where lp

[daring yew]

Gzz

I've found 4 rings now and none with lp

I cry

[little flower]

ive gotten 1 with 1lp that i bought from market

it was like 2am and i saw it 10m after posting

no 1lp red rings exist on market now lol

[daring yew]

I believe it

Mg bad

[little flower]

i like it

certainly has its flaws, but its been fun

[harsh arch]

is the heartseeker guide on maxroll any good?

[wary cedar]

depends

[frigid fog]

Do Shadow Daggers gain damage increase from the more modifiers of the skill that applied it?

[wary cedar]

@harsh arch https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8aal98Q you can follow my build 😎

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (68) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,353, Regen: 47.08/s
▸ Mana: 170.14, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 61%, Regen: 68/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 142 Dex / 14 Int / 14 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 67% / 110% / -48% / 106% / 79% / 124%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 449
▸ Dodge Chance: 39% (1368)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 15% (445)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Decoy / Dark Quiver / Smoke Bomb / Puncture

[wary cedar]

i made sure its extra garbage

[slate mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPuzTRos2s&lc=UgyWMncbH79XmPQYBx14AaABAg.AHqDdghowLHAHreC6A0htp what do you think about this build?

i remember you cooked up a kismet sword throwing build

[thin quartz]

anyone tried using redemption rune on exalted experimental mod? does it work normally changing it or it doesnt change.

[slate mulch]

and this seems to be going along those lines

[cosmic briar]

Bro really love danger

[wary cedar]

its my second name

[cosmic briar]

Fair enough

[serene crane]

I thought its "in-danger"?

[wary cedar]

yea you re in danger

[paper leaf]

u are soo squishy

lolz

[wary cedar]

when i show up with my -48% physical defens

[serene crane]

Dont threaten me with a good time

[wary cedar]

no i m not!

[paper leaf]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Davyray/character/Davyray_Heartseeker

👀

[cosmic briar]

Nah, your balls not so big as his

Sorry

Too high EHP

[paper leaf]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ444m1A

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (68) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,055, Regen: 37.26/s
▸ Mana: 199.31, Regen: 13.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 108 Dex / 13 Int / 28 Att / 39 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 164% / 112% / 72% / 92% / 91% / 96%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 1,273
▸ Dodge Chance: 52% (2003)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (872)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 105%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver / Shift

[paper leaf]

i'm going to farm in 1k corruption é_é

and i still miss items

[cosmic briar]

try to farm 2k with 1k EHP

And do not forget turn on song from MGS

[paper leaf]

How

[cosmic briar]

something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOmD2CQGgt4

[wary cedar]

he's on the dark site

[cosmic briar]

sadly not enough, my EHP is stil high even with only 2k hp(

but thats only in case of shrouds and dodge

[cosmic briar]

with proper music and face like this

[serene crane]

So much stuff just for 600c, MG, speed is nice, big mobs are melthing... idk If he got any Aberroth kill there

[cosmic briar]

Guys

New meta
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oRnLpXRo

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (21) / Marksman (13) / Falconer (59)

General:

▸ Health: 3,044, Regen: 42.2/s
▸ Mana: 130.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 184 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 66% / 66% / 66% / 73% / 71% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 609
▸ Dodge Chance: 64% (2980)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,455)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 36%

Used skills:

Falconry / Dive Bomb / Aerial Assault / Smoke Bomb / Synchronized Strike

[cosmic briar]

[slate mulch]

yeah needing to roll like 3-4 weaver pieces sounds like pure torture

likely not uber aberroth

[serene crane]

Yeah, 99% not 😄

[slate mulch]

the speed was what looked nice to me, very zoomy

[serene crane]

Might just stick with snapshotted Cascade and call it a day

[slate mulch]

do you feeel like regualr cascade is just as fast?

seems to lack a little less aoe because its not throwing out as many projectiles

[wary cedar]

i just shared my character

[serene crane]

It just do big melee spins, still with long shift with low cooldown, cant go low and wrong with that 😄

[slate mulch]

im kinda wondering what the kismet sword is even doing, does the build actually build up stacks if its spamming cascade every second?

and whether the other weaver gear is even needed if you just want to juice throwing damage

could you share the build you cooked up from before?

[serene crane]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B40kENaB

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (39) / Bladedancer (66) / Falconer (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,367, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 112.9, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 22 Dex / 12 Int / 3 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 79% / 79% / 79% / 86% / 44% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 473
▸ Dodge Chance: 51% (1943)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,648)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 79%

Used skills:

Dancing Strikes / Shurikens / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Explosive Trap

[serene crane]

Its just shadow dagger crap, probably slow, shurikes for the blade armor, you dont really care about that doing damage

[slate mulch]

have you tried the kismet sword?

[serene crane]

Nope 😄

[slate mulch]

im wondering if it stacks 1 per person hit or it needs 8 separate attacks

ill look at that guys video and see if its stacking

im realizing i havce no idea what the kismet buff looks like lol, ill check in game later

[wary cedar]

bro

bor bro broobrobor

i m trying for years now

to get 1lp void hand piece

:(

yea idk if i wanna use queen tbh

:(

nooo

let my crit multi be

:(

what about this one?

wardddd

i play wall

so ward = more hp

but i guess it doesnt give ward treshold

so meh

hmm

do i need to make sense? 😔

[sick ivy]

dunno about the belt but shackles and mourningfrost for sure are counter-intuitive

belt has crit mult which doesn't otherwise roll on belts so only upside i see on that belt tbh

i would swap out troakas teeth though, spidersilk quiver prolly the best

[wary cedar]

its all wip

[sick ivy]

my toon is a constant wip lol, just dinged 99 and still havent locked in on build yet, doing abit above 300c with absolute boof gear

[serene crane]

Strands belt is great, but idk If exactly there... 😄

[sick ivy]

idk if i want to reroll back to marksman and do some ravagers dart stuff, do lowlife lightning chakram(my current setup), lowlife bbc or shadow daggers bbc. trying to figure out which i could kill uberroth with if geared to the absolute limit

[serene crane]

Hachadino's life based lightning LM with black blade probably... surely he'll get the kill soon, today he got to the last phase iirc? 😄

SD LM just the damage is lower by quite a significant number, but on the other hand its also life based and can pretty much freely spam LM

[sick ivy]

oh? his gearing choices are imo kinda weird tbh

[serene crane]

Looked fine the last planner I saw 😄

I think he was trying something with Mountain boots tho, so idk what all he changed there

[sick ivy]

what i dont get is the julras rings tbh

would just make more sense using different boots, 1 siphon for doom and 1 red ring imo

with blood of the exile he would prolly reach the threshold for red ring

and for lifebased build his life is kinda low

my lowlife boof setup has more life than his

[serene crane]

64dex from 2x Julra is great, siphon+chains for Doom stacks would be great ye

[sick ivy]

yeah but what is he stacking dex for? only for pen?

would make more sense to run mourningfrost with the amount of dex hes stacking

[serene crane]

For uberroth it seems like your life barelly matters tbh.... you either dodge, your GB works and will survive with some hp that you leech back instantly or you just get oneshotted no matter what

The pen you can get is huge, LM is also dex so its just more damage 😄

[sick ivy]

yeah for dot pools i think the hp is the most important, for his big attacks just utilize silver shroud

[wary cedar]

i died here lmao

[sick ivy]

also he has no crit?

[serene crane]

For 3sector maybe... even his flail melee slaps can pretty much oneshot you unless you maybe go with 2xRR and Titan, but I guess ideally Null would be better with enough resists

[sick ivy]

on maxroll they get crit from the bleed node "rive" for lethal mirage, and sd is guaranteed crit, but on his build he has very low crit

[serene crane]

You just have Shift for crit, no need for anything else

ye that maxroll guide is very questionble as like 9/10 guides there

[sick ivy]

ohh

i missed that, i assumed it was standard shift

interesting way to build to say the least

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A2nG5VbA i considered to make something like this myself.

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (56) / Marksman (27) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 4,081, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 122.51, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 25 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 33 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 80% / 80% / 85% / 94% / 85% / 54%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 966
▸ Dodge Chance: 54% (2136)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,594)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 71%

Used skills:

Puncture / Lethal Mirage / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb

[serene crane]

Throw that crit chance away, SD is just enough already

Shadow Flourish and mana nodes in Cascade

No cleanse at all? 🤔

[sick ivy]

this is simply for bossing, shadow flourish does nothing on bosses

and i havent tested it at all, mana on cascade is the usual way i've built

just copied the tree from maxroll mostly iirc

shadow torrent might be worth to grab though

[sick ivy]

oh thats a mistake, i cooked this at like 4am so was relatively tired lol

cleanse from smoke bomb

alot of moving parts, could also go similar to hachadinos build but with lowlife setup

[cosmic briar]

no, for dot pools only recovery (doesnt really matter HP or ward) matter

[flint turret]

Told ya can't tank it without vise

[cosmic briar]

most shitty skill

[sick ivy]

idk, i always get stuck midway when trying to push rogue. never really finished a build

[serene crane]

Ye I barely touched it, I basically just looked at it

the hitbox of those flying black holes also feels super funny tbh

[flint turret]

After 10h of doing that fight I almost stopped caring about them. Just don't leave pools in the middle and stay all fight on the outside untill the lastvphase

Ideally you stack them in 2 places and clear them with fire

[serene crane]

Nah, Im giving up on that fight, really cba honestly 😄

[flint turret]

[potent spade]

If trash give me, I am playing Heartseeker build with this bow as a main

[warm zephyr]

kismet sword actually seems good for super high-end Spellblade, completely ignoring the throwing bonus though lol

[silver crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk7WgAXmG3k
this is one of the 3 bladedancer kills on uber?

[warm zephyr]

yeah, dragonsong is awesome. does feel like it really wants to be paired with Increased Area affixes though. the default range is pretty short on the cone

[flint turret]

This channel only uses heavily edited single player characters so def no

[warm zephyr]

range also lets you get more enemies at once

[silver crest]

oh yeah its offline lmao

[serene crane]

dude has low life with 6k ward in combat with only 9%experi on gloves, yeah, legit af

[flint turret]

Yeah I got more or less same results of 30% difference

[wary cedar]

how long for 0%?

[serene crane]

No way that fight is without some 4LP on every slot tbh

[flint turret]

Dunno, show tree. Probably cut on some 8% more damage or smth

Remove those trash flat crit nodes and the game will calculate it for you on character screen

[wary cedar]

do it for me pls 👉 👈

whats your hs tree looking like right now?

[flint turret]

It's trash compared to 8-10% more damage

To get 10% more damage you would need like 40 multi

Ah right

Ur dragonsong

How much crit for fire? Affix

I see

[undone dune]

yeah it seems like neither character sreen nor LETools can handle the "crit with fire skills" mod to tell you actual crit chance

[flint turret]

Do you have 2% flat crit from mm nodes? For bow

[undone dune]

it should

[drowsy palm]

I can't eem to set affinities in my stash anymore, was this bugged in the most recent update?

[undone dune]

if you have 4% fire crit on bow I expect you to be crit capped around 82% character sheet crit

for fire skills

little lower if you factor in crit vulnerability too

[flint turret]

Okay the one way you can do it is to use valor bow in le tools. It has the flat implicit roughly as your fire crit. Just replace the bow to valor

Or use any exalted with 4% crit implicit

[undone dune]

dont forget your crit goes up in combat a bit because you have a passive giving you crit chance per stack of marksman passive

[flint turret]

Le will do the calculations for you

[undone dune]

and you will almost always have attacked 10 times

[flint turret]

You can set it in the buff section on letools too

[undone dune]

yes you can but poeple often forget

yes

but not for spells

[flint turret]

Spell not capped

But 10% is whatever I guess

[undone dune]

dragonfire wont

[flint turret]

What

No way

[undone dune]

so uhh

[flint turret]

You did something wrong in letools

[undone dune]

you are probably very close to capped with fire spells actually

does LE tools tell you your global %increased crit when you hover over that

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (63) / Falconer (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,520, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 181.99, Regen: 12.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 149 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 57% / 56% / 87% / 59% / 64% / 76% / 81%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 950
▸ Dodge Chance: 49% (1876)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (789)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Puncture / Heartseeker / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver

[flint turret]

Bow critical chance implicit bro

It's not the same

[little flower]

anyone struggling to get 1lp shattered thats playing MG?

[flint turret]

I said use valor

Or exalted with flat crit sealed

[wary cedar]

any good?

[flint turret]

Anyway ur capped by a long shot with fire

You can even drop out some crit chance

[undone dune]

yeah

[wary cedar]

🍑

[flint turret]

It's 85 even on average

[vernal zealot]

Any falconeers handy

[flint turret]

You need only 80

[sick ivy]

not even that much

[flint turret]

Don't you have crit vulnerability?

[undone dune]

HS applis this very well https://www.lastepochtools.com/ailments/critical_vulnerability

and you have 10% chance on the tree

[flint turret]

Then you need only 80

[vernal zealot]

I swapped to explosuve trap instead of umbral blades and it feels so badge

[undone dune]

crit vuln is 10 stacks of 2%

[sick ivy]

crit vuln is 20% increased chance to receive a crit at max stacks

so it's not straight up filling 20% crit, its more

[undone dune]

your fire crit chance is also at like 95% if my napkin math is correct

[wary cedar]

nooooo

[undone dune]

ive done this so many times this season

[sick ivy]

if i remember correctly if you have over 60% crit chance and max crit vuln stacks you should be critting 100% of the time

[undone dune]

i never hit double prefix on 3lps

[wary cedar]

yea did

[flint turret]

That sounds wrong

[undone dune]

crit vuln shouldn't be scaling with incrased crit chance

it should just be +20% at the end

[sick ivy]

they have 20% increased chance to receive a crit,

[sick ivy]

it doesnt

[flint turret]

It does afaik

[sick ivy]

no it doesn't

[undone dune]

oh btw if you are playing dragonsong, what are your thoughts on meteor belt

someone was in here talking about trying that yesterday

but wanted to figure out how to fix mana

[flint turret]

It's just added flat on top

[wary cedar]

for swapping vitality to dex i need forging potential????? 🥲

is it not this thingy

mhhh

grrr

[sick ivy]

it was changed after that afaik, he speaks about 5% and it's 2% atm

[flint turret]

The mechanics didn't change

[sick ivy]

with acid skin and crit vuln enemies can still receive a crit even if you have singularity equipped.

to my knowledge

[undone dune]

because you have a ton of flat spell damage and meteors have 1000% damage effectivenss

[sick ivy]

it is definately wonky mechanic

[undone dune]

for the low price of 6 skill points HS generates infinite mana

[flint turret]

For the price of 6 points you can get 50% more damage

[undone dune]

but meteors

[wary cedar]

ok got one

[serene crane]

2.6s Smoke Bomb feels pretty funny, ngl 😄

[undone dune]

is 50% burning dagger damage that good?

[wary cedar]

despec shift 100%

[flint turret]

Or despec that shitty burning daggers

[undone dune]

they consume so much mana

[flint turret]

It's not free you drain your mana

What is free is 10% chance to shoot hs with a shadow or 8% more damage

Bro

Whatever

[undone dune]

3/4 heartdrain costs 5 skillpoint

which could be glancing blow stacks + shadow uses

oh also good tech is replacing shift not with cinder strike but with mubral blades

because you can make shadows throw an umbral blade and you have +80 throwing fire damage from dragonfang

I assume this node actually does damage

and doesn't require recalling seporately

but maybe im missing something

and "expire" doesn't mean consume

or "leave behind" doesn't mean throw even though there is alt text explaining ohw they throw

[flint turret]

Don't forget about 16% more damage for umbrals per stack of ds

[undone dune]

doesn't mourningfrost give them damage too?

[flint turret]

It does

And they are doing decent damage with cold row

[undone dune]

see the word "drop" scares me here

drop and throw do not feel like the same verb to me

[wary cedar]

you know what scares me? women.

[flint turret]

It just appears instead of a shadow

[undone dune]

but it does damage where the shadow was?

[flint turret]

Regardless of shadow was used, consumed or expired or replaced

They shaved kill time for Abby from 1:20 to 1 min when you switch from shift/bladeshield to smoke traversal/umbrals

[undone dune]

for what build?

[flint turret]

Cold hs

[undone dune]

oh normal abby?

[flint turret]

Yeah

[undone dune]

that seemed way to fast to me for a bit

[flint turret]

Explosive in top maxed, rest in flat+cold conversion

[undone dune]

I think if you are relying on shadows only these nodes work

oh maybe cold conversion too

[wary cedar]

bro i m getting so many right now

[flint turret]

You need them homing bro

[undone dune]

i didn't realize the shadow's umbrals could cause bladestorms

[flint turret]

There is always something to learn

They are converted too

Ther eis no way you have extra points left

[undone dune]

even if it wasn't converted its not like cold skills cant also do phys

you are adding +80 flat throwing fire damage to it either way that will stay fire

[flint turret]

True

I thought so too until I tested it

[undone dune]

if its in the skills own tree it gets converted 99% of the time

[flint turret]

It does get converted

[undone dune]

the other 1% is wierd edge cases where 1 conversion node overwrites the other

[flint turret]

And explosion too

It's fire/phys but it gets converted to 100% cold

[manic prism]

summon crab gives a flow stack

[flint turret]

Ofc they do lol

[undone dune]

if it crits

[flint turret]

Ofc you can that was in my shit gear and without dragonsong

[undone dune]

if you really want to get abby down fast you can respec puncture for decoy on him to get fire res shred

or cold res shred

im not sure which you do more of

oh but you have cold res shred blessing

[flint turret]

I measure it from triggering Abby when he starts to walk down

Weird

Show planner

Should be much better

With dragonsong

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (63) / Falconer (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,768, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Mana: 183.51, Regen: 12.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 157 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 72% / 112% / 81% / 84% / 97% / 102%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,051
▸ Dodge Chance: 52% (1998)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (900)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Puncture / Heartseeker / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver

[serene crane]

huh... Ive imprinted my unique gloves and they are gone now

[undone dune]

so uhh one thing, you are using "bow damage" idols not "damage while wielding a bow"

[flint turret]

Drop 4/4 D's and get duration+smoke blades in smoke

[undone dune]

this build is 50/50 cold fire that shouldn't matter much

[wary cedar]

area increase works with dragonfire yes ?

[undone dune]

different stats

idols can have either

only damage while wielding a bow affects dragonfire

not bow damage

[flint turret]

Rest looks fine. Are you collecting black arrows and using black quiver tho?

[undone dune]

silly little optimization

[flint turret]

Ofc it is bro

But it doesn't affect neither throw nor spell

[undone dune]

its just a little thing

but little things add up

[flint turret]

While damage while welding a bow does

Ds

[undone dune]

take pints out of this

no

just less good

[flint turret]

No one should use it almost ever

[undone dune]

you have lots of stacks from HS

those are where you dump the extra points

[flint turret]

Also move 1 attack speed point from hs to ds

But it's mostly fine, just dont ignore quiver+black arrows

You need to be constantly picking them up

Although using dragonsong may be affecting it

You can't really run around collecting black arrows and not miss dragonsong proc

Now I'm actually not sure what's worse. To miss lots of dragonsong proc or to miss lots of arrows

I guess just try and compare

[silent relic]

What’s the most honest way to solo uberroth as rogue rn - feels like dive bomb falcon is probably cheesy

[flint turret]

Heartseeker maybe? No one can call this skill op

There are definitely not

[silent relic]

Hmm, ok I’ll give HS a shot. Was hoping that chakram bd could muscle through but I don’t think it has the damage

[flint turret]

It has the damage on par or better than hs

But I haven't seen chakram kills so far, no one plays it to get good enough gear

So if you are willing to commit and are interested in chakram go for it for sure

[undone dune]

no shit

but is it fun

[silent relic]

Oh nice, maybe then I’ll soldier on if you think the damage is there

[flint turret]

Yah check the trikster videos he was killing Abby in 1:10 with kinda shitty gear, exalteds and low lp

I was killing it in 1 min in the setup I killed Uber Abby with hs. So the damage is definitely there

But that's gonna be around 10 min Uber abby fight regardless

[slate mulch]

dam t7 cooldown belts be selling for like 300m

i have stored 7 of them because i have nothing else good to imprint on my weaver tree

[undone dune]

😭

[slate mulch]

i can create 12 underperforming dancing strike build variations with this money

[bold mortar]

rune of creation and farm up some 3lp daggers i guess?

[wary cedar]

there are no good gloves for hs no?

at least when you want lp2/3

[undone dune]

2lp vise isn't that hard to get if you have an uber farmer

[serene crane]

Stormhide Paws? 30-45% cold damage, health, cold resist, +1 to all stats

[undone dune]

other than that most HS build i see are using 1lp ravenous

[wary cedar]

they dont give me anything lmao

[undone dune]

dot mitigation

and health

[wary cedar]

yea seems like best option

[wary cedar]

tbh... who tf wants hrealth? i want to see my numbers get bigger

DMG NUMBERS too be specific

[undone dune]

i didn't ansewr because i dont know

[wary cedar]

"look at my health its so much"
"damnnn thats crazy much!!!"

no one, - ever

[serene crane]

huh, what about this...? Kinda GLHF with getting good rolls, but could be okay

[wary cedar]

Good rolls + getting good roll on the all attr x)

[undone dune]

dragonsong is technically a spell

but yeah good luck getting t7 dex + anything useful

[serene crane]

Just get the good rolled rolls

[wary cedar]

damn, why didnt i think of that

[sick ivy]

practically too

julra gloves for that sweet 10 spell dmg

Kappa

[serene crane]

Good thing you have us here, to not only think for you but also suggest bad things

talking about bad things

[wary cedar]

let me iiiiinnnnn

[serene crane]

this abomination exists too

[wary cedar]

yea saw that tooooooo xd

[silent relic]

10 min is brutal lol. I have a 3lp fulgurite in eternal to start so I’ll begin there

[undone dune]

to make an educated guess, i dont think shadows using a skill is ever you using a skill

but last time I made a guess like this it was that SD was not "used" on trigger and this was wrong

SD triggers are a use

[sick ivy]

immolators oblation has nice synergy with dragonsong too

[serene crane]

elemental leech, faster leech rate, ele resists... thaaats about it

[wary cedar]

update fast pls, i want to hit 300hrs before i go to bed

[undone dune]

but how are you even using a lightning bow attack

or lightning throw atack to trigger zeurial's

[sick ivy]

detonating arrow

[undone dune]

he is playing HS

im not asking what lightning bow attack exists

[serene crane]

Yea I guess either Erased gloves or Paws

Paws gonna look omega weird 😄

[sick ivy]

spidersilk quiver is best for hs

10% more dmg is easily the best you can get from quivers

what is better then?

for frostbite troakas sure

[wary cedar]

isnt troakas not always better?

[sick ivy]

flat 16 better than 10% more?

[wary cedar]

at least in my world it is, because it results in higher tool tip dmg 🚀

also i search for lp4 troakas slam

so if i get that on spidersilk i just dupe and have it on both

[sick ivy]

actually it seems even volca changed his mind about spidersilk, maxroll has troakas now with dragonsong

maybe that flat+increased cold pulls ahead

[wary cedar]

also whole build is unique

you dont dare to put a non unique item there

[serene crane]

Sometimes what is really needed is less maxroll in someone's life 😄

[sick ivy]

i mean volca has always been a good buildmaker

before he joined maxroll

[serene crane]

flashbacks of Flick's 1000c Dragon kill in full yellow gear... offline, but still yellow gear 😄

[flint turret]

It shouldn't work

[serene crane]

Yeah I wouldnt disagree with that 😄

[night spruce]

Do Sapping strikes (hp/mana gain on 0 mana cost skill) work on 0 mana cost triggered skills?

[wary cedar]

me throws dummy
me goes in same line as dummy
enemy focus dummy
me get hit anyway

[serene crane]

You saved the dummy's life by becoming the dummy, you're a hero

[wary cedar]

i dodge

[serene crane]

Hey, thats not allowed...

[wary cedar]

PHYSICAL

grrrrrr

[serene crane]

Is it the harb rush?

[wary cedar]

nah

i m farming nulls

no

walls ieman

[serene crane]

Almost got me a bit confused there

[night spruce]

Anyone

[undone dune]

no

on use only

[serene crane]

In the harb rush woven echo I just stopped believing in physical resistance tbh

[wary cedar]

i really needed to focus there

couldnt get hit once

[serene crane]

Yeah pretty much everything just oneshots there

at least very very often 😄

[potent arrow]

Does that Orobyss that spawns next to the center of a monolith have a shit loot table?

[wary cedar]

yes

[potent arrow]

😦

[slate mulch]

if not using peak of the mountain for ez crit cap, what is the easiest way to go about it for shadow cascade baldedancer?

[flint turret]

okay i got 1 min abby with 1lp dragonsong and 2 undistributed points in hs

you should have better time

but i expected it to be a bit better still

wait what

i got 56 sec with row while converted to fire

seconf time 59, its the same, whatever. im sticking to fire row

[serene crane]

Few seconds less and its comparable with falconer's kill time

[bold brook]

Traitor's tongue offhand, t7 crit chance affixes, Precision and Bladerush nodes to fill in the gaps

[slate mulch]

got it, thank you

[slate mulch]

do you happen to know if life based shadow cascade bladedancer can leech well with peak of the mountain?

[bold brook]

Theres not a lot of healing on bladedancer without leech. There is a node in sync strike and a passive tree node that gives health when you make a shadow.

You could try using that for main healing, but long term I would look to drop peak of the mountain and get crit elsewhere

[silent relic]

I thought just cramming ward gain on shadow was sufficient but no clue

Doesn’t that build also require a snapshot of cascade damage?

[wary cedar]

new imprint lets go

[slate mulch]

yeah im trying to spec into shadow cascade and it seems like manyu of the builds im looking at use ward gen on shadows as a defensive layer

im not sure whats better, just stacking a gigaton of life

or life and ward

and what the cost/benefits for either are

[lone beacon]

on Juse's new build I don't understand what the stun is for? Does it have some bleed interaction?

[slate mulch]

gaping wounds node increases dive bomb damage scalkng with stun chance

multiplicative

[lone beacon]

oh I see it now, thank you!

But damn finding that amulet is a pain

but this looks like it makes it a much smoother mapper since you don't rely on smokes so much.

[sick ivy]

the stun chance scaling was bugged on the idols though

i just realized, scissors kismet buff seems kinda insane for shadow daggers no?

nvm, need to use throwing attack to consume the buff

was like wait, sd has throwing tag it would get alot of flat from that buff

[indigo frost]

Anyone got any tips for survivability with a marksman build? I'm making a slightly jank setup for explosive mine right now and it melts bosses but I wish it were a bit tankier

[lone beacon]

How so? So we don't need the idols anymore? Also, waht if you don't have the amulet and idols? Does it break the build or just maybe move the 0.5 second kill to 5 seconds?

[sick ivy]

they were scaling the increased stun chance from other sources multiplicatively apparently, go read patch notes

[lone beacon]

If your build doesn't have a BiS glove like bloodroost, just sacrifice any affixes and use the uberoth gloves (if you have an uberoth farmer or play MG that is)

[wary cedar]

mana

[lone beacon]

Oh it's patched out. I'll take a look, thanks!

[indigo frost]

yeah none of them look super great for the build so I think long term these would be best but I'm cof and no uber farmer yet

currently i'm using foot of the mountain cause it gives me a ton of endurance threshold and mana cost reduction but I kinda don't like the playstyle tbh

[gloomy finch]

why is fire/cold melee damage needed on traitor's tongue?

[slate mulch]

I wonder if it applies to daggers cast by shadow cascade

I suppose that’s not direct

[lone beacon]

You can farm falconer 1LP stuff and switch to that for a quick uberoth kill then switch back. 😅

[sick ivy]

it actually doesn't say it needs to be direct when some things do, might be worth it to test it i guess

[slate mulch]

ill try it out rn

the thing i dont like about the kismet thing is the stacks cant be built up fast

generated daggers seem to benefit from kismet

[sick ivy]

so ravagers dart hs must do too

hmm

i might be cooking some wacky stuff

[slate mulch]

definitely try it out and let me know if it works on your end as well

my testing was very rudimentary, i just hit the dummy with and without stacks a couple times

but i didnt despec fully to remove variables and whatnot

[sick ivy]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o39me9EQ

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (31) / Bladedancer (28) / Marksman (34) / Falconer (20)

General:

▸ Health: 1,252, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 31 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 7% / 12%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 438
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (588)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 4% (78)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

Used skills:

Detonating Arrow / Heartseeker / Shift / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb

[sick ivy]

i wonder if this would be a bad meme or actually good

can throw mourningfrost in there too

[crimson latch]

besides icicle cold heartseeker are any other good heartseeker build out there? :'c

[gaunt haven]

Are there any HC-viable Ballista builds out there?

[winter stratus]

Bleed/poison dot has taken down Uber Abby

[sick ivy]

i mean if you can do it with RoW you can do it with dragonsong too, that bleed poison kill is also very slow compared to other 2

[bold mortar]

lp3 traitors really 1/99? ive farmed 200 of em so far

[slate mulch]

donate some over

[bold mortar]

i mean 200 1-2lp

[burnt geyser]

it seemed rarer than the rate suggested but still got a few

[bold mortar]

7 3lp other daggers and a t4. bad rng be bad

[lone beacon]

lol the animation for snych strike with falcon is so jank. the damage tho..

[indigo frost]

yeah falconer is a bit strong right now lol. Personally it’s a viable solution but if I have to do all that to make the build viable it’s not worth the effort

most of the problems were kinda fixed once I got some better gear so I’m not getting one shot anymore

ended up using the brewmaster buckle for some extra endurance and hp

[lone beacon]

nice armor and res

oof, uberoth trying to get me back to VK

[lone beacon]

uberoth farming now just turned into havoc farming for alts

[crimson latch]

any heartseeker uberroth viable?

[slate mulch]

if im investing into life and heavily into dodge as bladedancer, do i still need crit strike avoidance?

[wraith pendant]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg4bJbRo what stuff should i focus on upgrading? havent gotten any red rings to drop yet

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (5) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 2,478, Regen: 127.66/s
▸ Mana: 104.99, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 165 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 112% / 84% / 88% / 153% / 100% / 90% / 72%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 496
▸ Dodge Chance: 37% (1260)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,081)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Falconry / Aerial Assault / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Dive Bomb

[slow sierra]

I think getting T7 cooldown slammed on belt and boots to be prio

you really need coold down to keep the dive bombs going

[slender stratus]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/UnholySpork/character/Lokomachina Good evening! Looking for advice here (aside from getting a better bow, actively working on that one), currently pushing 500+ corruption and my survivability is good but it feels like my damage is absurdly low...

[bold mortar]

wew we hit

[cedar sage]

Guys whats better + xx dodge rating or the +xx dodge rate when using evade + xx% dodge rating?

[midnight zealot]

Hi, ngl your dmg will stay low with heartseeker, the skill doesn't really scale much, it'll be buffed for season 3 we are pretty sure of that, i tried alot of things with it and i'm stuck around 1.500 corruption everytime

and in your case you are going for cold pen with these boots and gloves but you forgot to activate the cold pen in your heartseeker tree

[silent relic]

I hope that snapshotting is out next patch

It is not very fun

[midnight zealot]

it'll only for season 3

so you will have to wait longer than that unfortunately

[undone dune]

1500 coruption is pretty dam high

HS only issue is uberoth viability and I think they are more likely to nerfthe boss than buff HS

[lone beacon]

It's the most fun for me so far tbh. You have so much item to chase after that you always have something to look forward to. I got bored with VK and Falcon since once you get your best 1LP gear you're pretty much done.

[slender stratus]

I didn't forget to activate that I was just told to avoid it by others....the build guide I'm (roughly) following makes a point to talk about how little a difference it makes

[midnight zealot]

yeah, it's fun, but the scaling is really off

[slender stratus]

That said his tooltips on his skills have significantly higher numbers than mine but his character sheet shows lower damage stats aside from some %DOT so I'm wondering if that's the issue or I'm doing something else horribly wrong

[midnight zealot]

don't go for bleed convert to cold freeze

this is really bad

and you should use gloom needle too

proc shaodws with smoke bomb

and let your attack speed do the job

[undone dune]

I tried ailment based HS and it never felt as good as just hit based

waiting for the first mobs to die is always painful

[midnight zealot]

and if you're going for snowdrift and shackels i would advise you to get an elecoe's innovation

[undone dune]

and then puncture kills everything with is just a hit anyway

[midnight zealot]

and swap your amulet for nihilis or pearls of the swine before getting a good one

with crit multiplier as lp1

[lone beacon]

Even with hit based elecoes is BiS. This pretty much solved my Mournighfrost woes.

[undone dune]

also your helm mod "elemental bow damgae" wont affect the damage of frostbite

[midnight zealot]

eheh

i feel you 😛

[lone beacon]

Juicy 🔥

[midnight zealot]

my cold res are bad tho

[lone beacon]

I've been trying to get it on quiver but it always misses even on 3LP slams 😢

[slender stratus]

Can anything else I put in that slot effect it? Straight dex?

[undone dune]

does helm have damage while wielding a bow?

[outer comet]

yeah, it does

[undone dune]

it has chance to bleed on bow hit even

that would get converted

[slender stratus]

Looks like it does yeah...that affects all damage? (taking notes here)

[terse bloom]

Does % minion damage on inheritance of the erased amulet give x2 to the falcon or it considered a minion of the minion?

What do yous reckon would be best on it for bleed dive bomb, t7 dot + t5 phys pen otherwise?

[undone dune]

yes bow dmage is damage done by hits caused by bow attacks. Damage while using a bow is a global damage modifier conditional on you having a bow equiped

[undone dune]

i dont think minion damage would work but it sounds hard to test and I see a bunch of people using mods on that neck that make no sense

[slender stratus]

and would frostbite get more out of %cold damage or %DOT?

[undone dune]

whatever numbber is higher

both work

[slender stratus]

ok so cold would be better overall...

Gonna work on the jewelry and helmet then

[undone dune]

i mean both apply

[slender stratus]

Right but cold would also affect base heartseeker damage

[undone dune]

elemental damage over time tends to have a higher range

[terse bloom]

Cold better value if the skill applying it is cold too, affects both

Can scale with throne and ucenui pre shattered

[midnight zealot]

you have to work on you skills too, i'll show you what you can aim for one sec, need to log and put gear on my char

[slender stratus]

I'm just afraid to move too many points around on smoke bomb because ideally I don't wanna lose silver shroud...

[midnight zealot]

you wont

[undone dune]

I would gues phys pen > dot btw because I think dot would be addative with your minion damage

but getting both of those on an inheritance sounds like a pipe dream to me

[midnight zealot]

website doesn't update with my gear on :3

but what you wanna do is something like that

with pearls if you dont have nihilis

but tbh i tried alot of setup and i would still go with mournigfrost and immortal vise

[midnight zealot]

you should be able to go at least to 1150 corruption

[muted roost]

ew bow users

[midnight zealot]

without having troubles

[muted roost]

😴

[midnight zealot]

if you want to stick with shackles and snowdrift this is the same setup, just maybe some idols management

and it'll be the same for pushing corruption, you'll be a bit less tanky but shouldn't be a problem

i would stick with immortal vise tho cause sometimes it helps avoiding one shots

and if you are going for mourningfrost aim for phys res first on lp1

move speed/phys res on lp2

forgot my tree, sorry, here

[slender stratus]

The jewelry I get but I do not understand what I'm getting out of that belt

[midnight zealot]

alot of cold res

some crit chance/multi

and you're scaling cold pen with cold res

so this is really the best belt you can use tbh

the brewmaster is a really good belt too if you want to lean on the tankier side

[cedar sage]

increased damage of skills use by shadows" useful if i use the syncstrike? Im using Juse syn strike 4 version

[midnight zealot]

juse is in here atm

maybe he will answer x)

[cedar sage]

oh

this is for the chest

i kinda want to go full offensive

[midnight zealot]

but i think it is good to get, but not the best you can wish for since your supposed to stack dexterity

and dive bomb levels ?

and it is a prefix so ..

[cedar sage]

i mean ofcourse ill get dex t7

but i dont want vit

[midnight zealot]

go fore dive bomb t7 ?

[cedar sage]

his sync strike 4 build has dive bomb to 25

ig i can go 27?

[midnight zealot]

you can go to 31 i think x)

[cedar sage]

but i dont think there is anything else good to choose from dive bomb

unless ofc you do his new build which is bleed

[midnight zealot]

but you would have to ask juse i'm not an expert on falconner, i'm not a big fan of the dive bomb gameplay

[cedar sage]

@terse bloom is this the correct person?

[midnight zealot]

yeah

[cedar sage]

ig ill hold off onto buying then

[lone beacon]

where to find void horrors? Been stuck with these prophecies for 2 days now

[midnight zealot]

i'm doing mg sry x)

never played in cof

[lone beacon]

finally found it. The Black Sun - Forsaken Hamlet for those who want to know.

[terse bloom]

Yes, was seeing 130m crits on boss dummy with a t6 roll over peak, got a test vid out

[cedar sage]

increased damage of skills use by shadows? im planning to add it on my chest cuz i dont want vit

oh wait ig its redundant if i use it on my chest

what could be a good replacement for vit then i dont want vit

[terse bloom]

139m with 4 shadow sync which gives slightly more, no affix on helm 200% vs 17x

Defo makes a difference

[cedar sage]

so is it ok to still get this on chest/

[terse bloom]

I’d still go t7 dex to hit 220

[cedar sage]

i have this on my helm now

[lone beacon]

dex? divebomb?

[cedar sage]

yeah i mean i have t7 dx

[little flower]

Are you an Aussie by chance

[cedar sage]

im thinking t7 dex and t5 shadows

[terse bloom]

Yeah for max dps

Gl finding one with t7 dex t5 shadow hp hp

[midnight zealot]

expat en australie je crois non ? je te suivais à l'époque des rush dof x)

[cedar sage]

uberoth will prolly die anyways

like deleted boom done

[little flower]

Especially on market because a friend and I just bought out like half the rogue helm stock trying to roll these damn things

[cedar sage]

this is just a uberoth farmer not corruption pusher

[elder condor]

How much damage can I be looking at with umbral blade bow setup

And holy shit tier 7 cooldown recovery makes such a big difference

[little flower]

I had better luck with the dagger setup, but should still be more than needed for any content lol

[elder condor]

What’s y’all’s cooldown recovery speed on Ariel assault with tier 7 cooldown recovery on belt and boots

[slate mulch]

is dodge better for uberoth

or life

[midnight zealot]

i would say dodge everytime cause you'll get oneshot anyway with hp x)

[lone beacon]

hope imprints work on this..

[midnight zealot]

huge

[lone beacon]

It had 60+ FP very lucky when it barely used any FP when I rerolled

[midnight zealot]

that's so huge x)

[barren wasp]

Hey @terse bloom, does the stun version of your build help with survivability in higher corruption? Packs/mobs being stunned more often, less chance to get one shot? Or not much difference?

[barren wasp]

Unethical

[frank olive]

nice one

[terse bloom]

Dunno, haven’t used it much in echoes mainly bossing and orobyss

[gloomy finch]

anyone got a good loot filter for dagger Midnight Aviary + dive bomb? :/

[cosmic briar]

the guy in previous message before yours

in comments on his channel

[slate mulch]

Is snap shot still a thing for shadow cascade?

[boreal walrus]

[wary cedar]

without meeeeeee???????

[wary cedar]

recurve chance > dex ?????????????

i dont believe that

in my country we would say: humbug

[lone beacon]

Nope. Just making my toon tankier for mapping since I'm using mourningfrost. For boss I use all dex

[wary cedar]

tankier?

what is this word

never heard of it

[lone beacon]

I'm also in CoF, so I can't just pick a T7 heartseeker +dex +hp out of the market.

[wary cedar]

who s playing mg anyway

[dark chasm]

Hello playing umbral falconer. I downloaded the filter from the maxroll guide as a base and its highlighting some stuff with bow attack speed. For instance an exalted quiver with it on it - Being limited by cooldowns mostly, and most things being instant cast - what is the purpose of attack speed in this build?

playing the version where you shoot aerial assault and leap forward with smoke bomb

[wary cedar]

cof is jsut >>>>>

[wary cedar]

i dont play this build but i would guess there i some attack speed scaling somewhere

[wary cedar]

i m farming wall lp2 again for this beauty

wait wrong pic

[dark chasm]

it does say on the build to use it but i just dont understand why, maybe just increases dmg somehow ill read throgh some of the ability

[lone beacon]

Almost perfect, especially since new patch has higher chance of imprinted items to give more forging potential.

[wary cedar]

just hoping for the slam

the lp2 is just a matter of time

i failed my first lp2 slam with wall

[lone beacon]

Oof. Tbh I'd jsut imprint that forever and just use it if it drops with right item base XD

[wary cedar]

nah

i have like triple exalted high fp items imprinted

the affixes are random af on them, but redemption and havoc it is

thats my quiver imrpint for example

i only want the best of the best for my 4lp quiver x)

[lone beacon]

Dang that would be fun to gamble with redemptions when you get a bunch of them.

Btw why wall instead of null?

[wary cedar]

null looks like i m fat

wall looks like i m chad

simple as that

[lone beacon]

can't argue with that

[wary cedar]

also the ward makes me think i m safe

i m not safe at all

but i at least feel like that

[lone beacon]

They should implement salvaging gear to use as as skin

[wary cedar]

also its like 900 healts atm, + the chance to mitigate dmg, so its another instance of a dodge

and some stats of null just feel useless for hs

and for null i need resistances, i dont have those xd

[serene crane]

Ever played Grim Dawn? 😄

[wary cedar]

hell no

and now i will never

[serene crane]

Thats what you think

[wary cedar]

thats what i know

[serene crane]

Well transmogs are planned for future patch (hopefully 1.3)... pretty much because a lot of unique/set armors dont have their unique 3D model 😄 but when we get it, Im looking forward transmogging the harbringer gear... Seed/Somnia; Wall; Ravenous Void... also Corsair hoodie will be 10/10

[serene crane]

You know nothing John Blume

[serene crane]

It still works and ye, can use it just like before

[flint turret]

I feel like you have no idea what you are talking about. Hs is a top tier rogue skill that outperforms almost everything except for falconer. It's damage is not low at all, and there is absolutely no reason to buff it. It's already Uber capable and 1500+ capable. Comparing anything to falconer doesn't make any sense because it's plain broken

[midnight zealot]

if you say so, i tried a bunch of things

here is a BiS heartseeker as an exemple

https://streamable.com/ysdewx

[flint turret]

If you say it's gonna be buffed it means it's heavily underperforming, what are you comparing it with for rogue?

[serene crane]

Yeah, Hs looks super weak compared to Puncture, Flask, Flurry, Dancing Strikes and Multishot

[flint turret]

Only cinder strike is stronger than hs

[midnight zealot]

i'm not comparing it with anything, i'm saying that dmg are low and that's it, being stuck around 1500 corruption is when you are already fairly good on optimisation, that's really bad for a game where difficulty increase indefinitely

[flint turret]

Bro

[serene crane]

Another victim of the high corruption bait...

[flint turret]

You are not supposed to climb over 1500 ever

And hs is not stuck at 1500

I'm at 1560 and it's fine

[midnight zealot]

lol

i'm a victim then

if the game let us push corruption, the goal is to push the furthest we can

just saying

[frank olive]

1500c with HS?

[flint turret]

Yep

[midnight zealot]

and i'm at 1500 too

[frank olive]

gear?

[midnight zealot]

and it still sucks

[frank olive]

wtf

[midnight zealot]

with the gear i showed earlier this morning

[flint turret]

Import ragulol ragulmark

Pretty mid gear

[midnight zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/noxsy/character/Nina

[frank olive]

huh

maybe hs is good if it can do 1500c on this gear

[flint turret]

It's basically the same lp as mine which is pretty mid even for cof

[serene crane]

Bro you got Uberroth down with exalted quiver, Ravs instead of Vise and 1LPs 😄

[flint turret]

Vise would have helped for sure

But people calling hs weak is kinda triggering ngl, when it's the best skill rogue ever had, and one of if not the strongest outside of a falconer

[midnight zealot]

nope

the bis version is what i showed in the lil clip for pure dmg testing

bro

can you read ?

i told you that this is not what i'm calling bis x)

[flint turret]

Much better. It's not even close. Especially for Uber Abby

[midnight zealot]

the clip was in offline as oyu can see

it was for PURE DMG TESTING

it's not even achievable

online

you're the one not understanding anything about what was said, you just wanted to add your grain of salt x)

[serene crane]

What gear did you have in offline? 😄

[flint turret]

Doesn't really matter, it's just a falconer victim anyway. Thinks that all builds can or should be doing damage like that

I might be wrong but it's what it looks like

[midnight zealot]

i dont even care about falconners

[flint turret]

Bro, what are you comparing hs to then when you are saying it's week and needs a buff

If it's not a falconer

[midnight zealot]

have you played past seasons ?

[flint turret]

Yes

[midnight zealot]

the falconner build wasn't even there

[flint turret]

What

[midnight zealot]

and we could already do 8k corruption x)

[flint turret]

Falconer was 10k capable since it's release

[midnight zealot]

i'm jsut saying that atm the scaling feels off, for me it should deal more damage, that's it

[flint turret]

If you are talking about pre 1.0 yeah, there were builds that stacked stupid amounts of ward and that's the reason ward gets nerfed all the time

[serene crane]

Go and play some offmeta BD or MM, then come back and say how Hs feels worse 😄

[flint turret]

Why it should deal more damage if it's already one of the hardest hitting rogue abilities and it's also ranged?

Like what's the justification

[serene crane]

5k+ corr Hs when

[flint turret]

If anything, hs might get nerfed a little imo in 1.3 rather then buffed

Numbers for Uber Abby kills don't lie

[serene crane]

I honestly dont see much that wouldnt be achieveable in online... MG might suck If those items arent on market, CoF might take some time to get those exalts for slams and 3-4LP, but definitely doable

[flint turret]

Outside of 2lp rrs it's almost reasonable

Double t7 rrs*

[serene crane]

Wasnt there some zhp Hs video of one guy that was pretty high corruption few weeks ago?

[midnight zealot]

2k

[serene crane]

ye found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-_wxqotqsg&ab_channel=BabyOtter

[midnight zealot]

cause i tried with and without

and you dont need to

and fyi i'm not playing offline i was just doing the maths this morning

to see if i should go full cold pen/full crit or hybrid

full cold pen is better when you're capable of reaching 600% cold res, other than that go for hybrid

[wary cedar]

falconer made bro delusional

you know what, create a mod for offline mode

lp8

[serene crane]

We got other youtuber for that, 4LP t7s all over the place and at the end he tells you to unninstal the game If you cant put the gear together 😄

[midnight zealot]

that's 3 lp

anyway, if you just wanna play the dumbest imma head out, i was jsut doing some tests to find out what should i try to aim for online, but hey i guess that i should have asked you

since you seems to know everything

[serene crane]

Its not even falconers fault really.. well kinda, anything that pushes this high was never intended and always surprises me EHG doesnt instantly kill it... finding broken stuff is great, keeping it in game, lowkey brainwashing the playerbase into playing it for over a year is not... and If the plan is to bring everything somewhere near to falconer lvl, I might aswell just buy D4

[wary cedar]

its not the facts you re delivering, its how you do it 🔥

[wary cedar]

yea 100%, i feel like hs is at a good power level everything should be balanced around that level +-

[eternal phoenix]

With the Imprint node nerf

How many playtime is that gonna be to get 2 LP RR