#🔪┃rogue
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Ez void res boots clap don't thank
i miss it, ahahah i've to farm the reign of dragons
You can slam t7 crit avoid on a rr and use all res 
oh of course just get another 1lp RR how did i not think of that
It's not as bad as it sounds I swear
If the game was balanced, Uber aby would be hard on all classes and then I won't be able to kill him at all!...so yes imbalance is good!
Rr is not really an issue in cof tbh
then again I took RR out of my imprints once I got my 2 so that I could find upgrades to other slots
so maybe i would have spares
Well if being serious no one forces to slam t7 avoid on a ring. It can be slammed on boots, gloves, belt and helmet too. I'd say the best slot is helm
Peak 3lp drop en masse so you can have multiple copies of them slammed as you see fit
Tundra+t5 reduction on body is another good option
My personal record is 18 kills to find a crit multi blessing for a first time at 200+ corr
I'm not even talking about roll
18 is a lot...
i think i was up to like 800 corruption before I found >14% allres this season though it just always min rolled even with lucky blessing ranges
_> more evasion
Who cares
Evasion= more tanky
You should be having like 20+ D's stacks in that build
Who cares about 20 dodge
% dodge is huge tho
I was running t7 amulet dodge % on nihilis for the whole time until Uber abby
i just accept sometimes i must die to a crit
or they are blinded
although with foot of the mountain it is unlikely i die to almost anything unless it is meant to
Foot viability fell of a cliff with wasd movement. It's much easier to just sidestep most of attacks now instead of tanking them
while im using sync or LM i have to stay still for a bit
and well 12 stats is 12 stats and endurance too
so i can change blessing there
Ok i'm rlly tanky now ^^ But i losed half of my tooltip 😦
I need that new helmet >_>
T7 Dex
T6 Increased Damage while wielding a Bow
t5 phys res
t5 cold res
IF anyone has this helmet i buy it ❤️
Yeah and fire too, in nodes
Not useless but not optimal
i need to buy x2 idols with health and Increased Damage while wielding a Bow
so for shadow cascade vs shurken chakrams bladedancer? what do you guys think is hte better overall build?
and can either of them deal with uber aberroth? both seem to use low life shenanigans, and i sort of doubt rogue can generate enough ward to deal with uber aberroth DOT
You can just use health+cold/eleres idols
Or cold pen idols if you want more damage
The only good big damage idol is the huge idol with recurve imo
Slammed with repeat a bow attack
Both are good but Uber Abby won't be easy for either. Arguably I'd say chakram has better chances, and probably not in lowlife setup so you could leech
Eh, not a fan of that cold pen without shackles to double it as ward retention
2-3 points in consume shadows on hs is 20%-30% more damage without any cold res shenanigans(if you have shadows)
Ravager's Dart feels absolutely hard limited by the 3s limit on the item... Anyone actually done anything with this?
makes sense, in which case it probably does make chakrams more realistic for uber aberroth
since shadow cascades seem to rely on low life shift to cover a lot of its mana costs
or actually wait i think both do
Chakram has exactly the same mana management
But it's more or less ranged at least
yeah uber aberroth looks like pure pain to deal with melee
with all the nonsense flying around everywhere
do you happen to know how mana is sustained in non low life versions for either build?
1st time im trying rogue so not too familair with all the mechanics yet
Umbrals recall on shift can help a bit, other than that you can try mana experimental on potion
Using falconer for free mana is also an option buuuuut
Red rings+nihilis can give lots of mana regen via implicits
thats true, if only i could drop them 
If you are aiming for Uber Abby and you don't intend to invest at least to this extent, I don't think bd or mm is a good choice
You need to be either cracked at gear or with your fingers, or preferably both
Last time devs pulled their stats only 3bds cleared Uber abby
yeah i can imagine, i only really push one char to its max per season, so eventually ill be getting those rare drops
unsure as to whether to commit to chakrams/cascade/or lethal mirage
I'm curious about that myself too. But doing it on my hs I don't feel like ward is gonna fly
It's useless almost
yeah, i saw a fairly well built low life shadow cascade try uber aberroth and get insta deleted
Getting to the last phase won't be an issue
The last phase is a big concern for ward tho
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'd like to see how it's done myself, but I don't have confidence in ll rogue from my experience with Uber abby
youre probably a lot more knowledgeable than me as this is my 1st time trying this class
ive been shopping around for some lethal mirage builds since the skill looked cool, they seem to run life builds
but the issue is the DPS does not look consistent enough
potentially not high enough either
thats reassuring to hear
i chunk around 30% of his life every cast
problem is sometimes you cant do the full combo
so it will be less
I haven't tried Uber Abby with low life set-up myself, but like I said last phase is where you will be getting 20+ stacks of frailty and you need to recover thousands of hp/ward per second to stay alive
youre using all the flow/piano setups right
for low life you can just have cleanse on smoke and shift
Is it possible as ward? Probably yes. Is it reasonable? Dunno
having a cleanse every 1.7 secs
has to be enough
problem is not shifting into some random bs
cant count the times i have died to it
i have gotten him to more than 50% without trying super hard tho
You can't shift that much in the last phase. Ground is burning, Uber Abby spinning his D, lasers are everywhere
good thing at least is you can pre combo for the harb spawn and just insta delete it
yea man that blade of chaos
super omega hidden killer
when i get my red rings and titan will be easier
And you need to keep traversal for succ/spin/3-sector
i have to slam it
i have 3 2lp and 1 3lp
but the 3lp is only 7 all stat
others are 11 12 12
at least i got another 3lp blade so
maybe i hit this time
i will try to make a 4 mod one
to avoid being krangled like last time
with lightning flat multi shred and light pen
I've gotten him to 50% on my hs in 1lp gear weeks ago, but I could clear it only yesterday for the first time
yea at most i have spent like 30 min at a time
one day i just go marathon mode when i think i can
Don't forget to record a video. I wanna see at least one bd clear
the ehg sheet said there were 3 so far, unfortunately none recorded
Yeah I haven't seen any
idk if LE is big in china/korea but maybe its uploaded in the depths of one of their native video sites
Generally dots are looking better for Uber
bleed dancing strikes 
Because you have more time where you are leeching without actually attacking
i saw a build from 1.0 reach 1k corr using dancing strikes, but the clear looked so awfully slow and clunky
And it's a huge factor when you will be staying during the spin in the last phase and then you need to run across to the other side through 10 lasers and 10 pools
And stay there before wave ends
It's gonna be hard for melee-ish builds
yeah the melee builds i see doing it right now are both nigh immortal and do 50x the damage of bladedancer
Vise gloves is a huge factor too. If you wanna have better chances. I didn't want to use anything from Uber Abby before killing it, but bd might need it
Has anyone an idea how to craft this helmet? Maybe i ask too much and i need to use only t7 dex and not t6 dmg
T7 Dex
T6 Increased Damage while wielding a Bow
t5 phys res
t5 cold res
You can't craft double exalt at least somewhat reliable
The prefix pool is huge, it's not happening
Maybe imprinting double exalted suffixes
with remove and crafting what you want and despair etc
that is how i crafted my chest
and swords
hardest part is getting the base
you can just spam tower of nemesis
Mode around consumes lots of fps so it needs to get a huge luck to finish it
Tbh I don't recommend investing in it before doing 7-5-5-5 peak. The chances are that you will get a second or a few more 4lp peaks before getting those multi exalted with the exact 4 affixes you need
i will slam the peak with t7 t5 t5 t5 than
Just buying one with double exalted phys/cold/dex should be more or less reasonable because those are common affixes at least
i don't wanna keep the one i've, it has few usless mods
But I have no idea about it's prices
just had an absolute beast carry me in uber thank you Max 🍻
has this sealed cold res ?
Probably yes, can't you hold alt or smth?
It's dead
rip
You need only 1 of the the prefix you need+either open prefix or t1-t2 prefix in another slot at most
i'm checking for recurve too, idk others
You can also look for int/att/str +cold/phys res
And add vit as a second prefix
This will increase the item options x5
i don't think non rogue helmet can add a rogue tag mod
Ofc It can't that why I said vit+dex in the end
You can't
oh sad ahaha
big brain, see? 
You first swap str/int/att to dex and then add another one of int
Huge
You need bases that roll.int
Huge brain
Actually huge
There is one issue with this tactic
the rng? Xd
You first will have to swap int to dex, and then add int, meaning the int will be t5 unless havoc it
And t5 int isn't enough
That's what I said
God dam fulcokers
there is this one
Hmmm, you can actually cap endurance with this +brew belt
It will open up flat armor blessing or dodge %
And you don't need 16 int you will need to refine it too
i need 15, soo i need to roll
This is weird, I didn't know you can put dex on sent helm
i'm not sure
but the map should force it
oh it has it alredy
nvm
WAIT
if i havoc
and str become t6 and dex t7 i can swap them in the map
xfect broken
i go farm, i'm sick
i bought some random bleed dancing strikes gear for fun
and the damage isnt half bad wow
atrocious clear though
Davy, can you even wear this ?
i guess a shadow cascades dancing strikes build would have way better clear but i dont think it could do half the damage
i needed it to put mods into the peak of the mountain
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Hi, some more expirienced players would rate my Ice Heartseeker ?
It's my 2nd build, and it's 1st week
Any guidance much appriecieted ^^
I know i have to fix reses, constantly working on it
1 week @ has better bow than i had to kill uber abby with fml
if i slam a sentinel helm into my mountain of endurance, with all generic stats, would it lock the helm out of my rogue?
you killed uber aby on MM?
Got lucky af
with crit hs yeah
nice...
link to vid somewhere above nad planner too
get a decent body - titan\wall\null\core with +4 HS
get decent rings - RR\crab\nomad
get decent gloves - ravs\vise\boulder\river\paws
get decent belt - brew\jungle\elecoe
get nihilis ammy
do better slams on peak\boots\relic(relic can be anchor as well)
remove 3 points crit from the HS tree add 1 point in chill\freeze and bone piercer
remove death from afar and leave sharpshooter at 1 add it into the mm passive barrage of pain
cap your endurance at 60%
try to avoid using idols that give phys\void\necro\poison res because they have terrible prefixes, get those res on gear if needed and isols to hp%\eleres
overall pretty good
nop
hp% or cold penetration
depemding on you want to live or to kill
works
for what?
dunno
you wont need cold shred for it probably
if you overcap cold res you will be having lots of cold pen already
they do, additivly
i mean +-20 is not a big deal if you already have 200
75% cold res gives more anyway
man i could of hit flat bow cold dmg, but hit cold pen .....
left is new, right was old
yea i need flat but i hit the pen
theese guys with 2lp rows icant bro
ive been farming all day
Last time I turtled 2 full stash tabs of rows I didn't get any 2lp. And I did it as cof
quiver mod? dex atk speed , res res? Xd
Yeah I had one, didn't want to use it for Uber tho
on the troak quiver what stat do u care about most?
just dropped a 2lp
but flat cold dmg
is 12 😦
Atk speed
Dex
res
res
i have only a 1lp equipped
Yep
Cold damage % probably? I wouldn't bother using it with 1lp for sure, maybe even with 2. Silk exalted with 4 useful affixes looks better tbh
i don't wanna change my quiver 💔 but those 2 more slot of res for a tier of dex seems worth xd
guys anyone plays heartseeker fire? in high zones and bosses i always run out of mana would love if someone dm ill show my gear and would love some guidance
If you run out of mana just drop out burning daggers
I actually haven't seen high corr fire, so I'd like to see it too if someone has
i removed burning dag should i just completely remove cinder strike tree tho?
A guy did a try yday or 2 days ago with Nihilis high mana rolled, 2 Red rings and told me that he was having issue on sustaing the mana too
the onley way u have to keep using fire Hs is gain more mana ZZ_ZZ
that wasnt on fire hs, i did it with cold
probably yes? the best nodes in fire is not burning daggers imo, thats dragonfang for flat damage imo
my gear is still fairly bad tho
is there a tree i can follow for df?
i obviously need ALOT of gear upgrades soon
also sounds like i need a change in my hs tree
i havent played fire much, i swapped to cold as soon as i got a slammed row, but id do it something like that
need that 2 points for the puncture
oh yeah and puncture ofc
remove dusk shrouds for now intil you get +4 body
its pretty important to have +4 hs
bro
how on earht
are peole doin g harbor
on tier 4
on rogue
i keep dying second phase
from the lasers
skill issue i guess
just dont get hit by them bro
the safe zone is in the opposite direction of where they start
you cal also shift through them
smoke trav through
even evade
i see
there is no node called like that
but there is also this ball flying around
dusk shrouds on recurve
hidden skewer
you dont reallyt care about it, it doesnt do that much damage. if it one-shots you you have big ehp issues
i am on 1.3k life
whelps
like i said
big ehp issues
either get much more damage to burst it or fix your ehp
get 2.5k hp and youll be fine
spend 15 keys already
If your struggling with mana on a fire heart seeker you need to put a few points in to mana on hit . The node just above the fire section in the bottom middle . Iv been running three on there and haven’t been having much issues . This should allow you to keep running burning daggers with cinder strike synergy . That’s the set up iv ran up to 1200 c
any new uniques from 1.2 you guys think will juice up dancing strikes?
naal's tooth has a nice crit multi
im curious about the weaver sword scisser of atropos
This is the tree Iv been running for fire heart seeker but I am running a +4 chest
Yea, the scissor might be interesting, maybe for some funny DS shadow dagger stuff... probably nothing crazy tho... the new weaver sword might be nice too for a bleed one
^^
5 points into mana sustain just to get 1/3 burning daggers?
Yeah it looks interesting too, though not having inherent crit strike multi is sad
For salt the wound bleed specifically atleast
3 into the mana node and one into the dagger node yes . Its been enough to push above 1k C
Also 2 points in frenzy
5 points overall for 33% chance of burning daggers looks pretty terrible on paper
Yea its been fine though iv got 124 dex stacked with that so a ton of recurve chance from that so its still spawning a ton of daggers
But for the same 6 points you could get 30% more attack speed with hs+16% more damage and 10 more recurve instead of daggers
I hope rogue gets some attention in 1.3 to maybe bring up the other 2 subclasses to falconer. I know it’s acolyte time but seeing 3 bd clears for uberroth was sad
I think I’m also still tilted about blast rain getting rekt for no reason too lol
That's like 50% more damage for hs overall at the cost of 34% burning daggers, and also a free skill slot instead of cinder, which can become puncture for much better clear
I don't think any class should be brought up to a falconer. Falconer should be brought down. Bd and mm are fine. It's just almost no one plays bd because hes getting no new stuff
I do agree that blast rain was butchered for no reason tho
So far with daggers feels like better up front dps and increase clear and to be one hundred percent honest its just fun to see a ton of daggers fly around and target things . Its worked so far the only thing that's been slowing me down is surviving in orabis fights in high corruptions
Falconer has been op since release lol now they brought sentinel up to that level of opness (sort of), we need other classes to be on par with it 🙂
Skill being fun is totally a valid reason to use it, no complaints here
We don't. Skipping all mechanics of the game is stupid and not interesting
Yeah fair point I just mean an equalization or some new stuff would be nice. I still think about blast rain though lol
Yeah I haven't seen it coming same as a massive buff for chakram
Weird changes imo
What mechanic are we skipping?
Equalization could be useful for sure, but I think bd vs mm is already balanced well. They consistently fail to do that with a falconer tho
All boss mechanics, all defensive mechanics
You literally can burst Uber Abby with 1k life or whatever
Which regular builds will take 5-15 mins to clear while following mechanics
And building defences
I didn't mind it much before because basically every half decent build could clear Abby, but with Uber Abby and classes like falconer it just destroys mg. Unless you kill Uber en masse yiu can't compete with the masteries that do. Flooding the market with 2b chains means hyperinflation for everyone, because sents and falconers are buying all idols and gear to slam for any price
I'm myself playing cof so it doesn't really affect me but it's just bad for the game in general
What chest is best for Cold Heartseeker?
is the razorfall build that is doing uber in 30 secs or whatever essentially the same as the build from the 10k corruption video from last season?
Could anyone help me take an old build guide and update it so it works in the current season, if possible?
lowkey dancing strikes is growing on me
its surprisingly tanky and the damage is really high
Nah that’s pure umbral dps, dive bomb does no dps in his build
Highest dps in the game but you’d wanna use liraka so it’s squishier sustainwise
any other falconers found the Blood Roost gloves really hard to find? I'm nearly maxed just about everything else but cant find these gloves despite using prophecies. Pretty sure my loot filters are right, cant even find a single drop of the gloves to ascend into them. Are they that rare?
Curse of the 4LP!
In the process of rerolling and consolidating what gear I have in my stash.
Was wondering what the best way to get a good exalted bow to slam, and then which pieces of gear to focus on next for slamming?
(I am CoF and picking up prophecies for Quiver / Gloves / Relic)
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (22) / Falconer (52)
▸ Health: 1,417, Regen: 18.46/s
▸ Mana: 164.15, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 98%, Regen: 24/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 67 Dex / 49 Int / 12 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / -8% / 22% / 7% / 42% / 73% / 86%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 436
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (645)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (461)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 59%
Ballista / Decoy / Aerial Assault / Smoke Bomb / Falconry
can someone explain to me in a bleed build why the chance to bleefd is valuedf as a t7 mod
over say something like flat or % damage
specigically dancing strikes
is there a benefit to stacking bleed chance higher? does it apply more over 100% etc
hey guys im having trouble beating 850 corruption shade. i can dodge everything except his melee attack that has started 1 hitting me. is there any way for melee shadow cascade bladedancer to dodge his melee attack? smoke bomb sometimes doesnt do it
What kind of build is ravenous void used for?
i am also playing a melee cascade bladedancer, i stopped pushing around 1000 corruption (usually play around 800 for fast farming), but i dont think ive been oneshot by the shade's melee
i think you just need better defenses, probably more health or armor
this is my character
your endurance isnt capped, that would be the a good defense increase
how much more benficial will 41 be at 60? like a ton?
it makes a lot of difference in my experience
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (65) / Falconer (19)
▸ Health: 4,189, Regen: 45.31/s
▸ Mana: 216, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 27 Str / 32 Dex / 23 Int / 13 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 86% / 86% / 110% / 89% / 100% / 94% / 76%
▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 1,466
▸ Dodge Chance: 46% (1683)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,610)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 26%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 9%
before i bought immortal vise and shattered worlds i had Falcon Fist gloves and Anchor relic
what about my tree for skills and passives?
I see you have a few different ones than i do
steady hand in the rogue tree is definitly worth the points for the health
ideally you would get crit from your gear so you wouldnt need critical precision
wilderness scout and outlander's tenacity in falconer are excellent nodes for health and one shot protection
are there any quick fixes I can do in the passive tree right now/
I would take some points out of the Perfection tree and put them towards the nodes that give health
especially Exuberance
you only ever need one point in there imo
you can also take 3 out of Pursuit, 6% increased melee damage per point isnt great after you get the movespeed imo
the one point in Scarlet Stream as well, not needed
alright thanks
im getting to work on those
okay i have 5 points
where should i put them
i would go Wilderness Scout in falconer, and work toward getting Outlander's Tenacity, especially after you cap your endurance eventually]
Any rogue builds that could make optimal use of this?
i lost some damage. maybe like 5%. is that okay?
losing damage for durability is generally fine in my experience
im almost always gated by lack of defense and not lack of damage
dead dps is no dps after all
how do i know if my shadow cascade has 100% crit chance?
i think i can take some points if i dont take too many and go under 100%
i made a speadsheet for shadow cascade crit chance
its a weird ability, its base crit is 10% for some reason, and with Traitor's Tongue in the offhand you only need 1 tier 7 crit chance on weapon to get most of the way there
i have 14% crit chance for shadow cascade from a node
after that its just getting a bit mroe crit from items / idols and/or invest a few points in the crit nodes in the tree
crit multi is your damage taht your crit does, not your chance to crit
i know
if you use the spreadsheet, and input your numbers into the green cells it will tell you
someone told me a few days ago that its crit chance divided by 8 times 13
the first green cell is flat crit. LE tools can tell you this when you hover on crit chance
the second green cell is where you put what your character sheet says your crit chance is
the third is where you put added crit from Precision
the fourth is more crit from Blade Rush (not applicable to you currently)
i have no idea how or why someone would think that
It would be right for the one specific case where your base crit is 13%, but you know your crit chance is calculated using a base of 8%... but not super useful otherwise
okay i can see your gear is much better than mine. what gear could I easily change without much money? i currently have 15m
Carcinization of momentum is very cheap, good boost to armor and vitality and movespeed
Any of y’all do macros for falconer
1lp smokeweaver and tier 7 crit strike chance on dagger are also very cheap
you can then drop a lot of cooldown reduction for more defenses
its actually very good
but not for glacier
i guess it single handedly eliminated crit damage for you
440 armor + a ton of crit protection
exactly
and i just dont press evade
because i use crab ring
and have shift on short cd
im addicited to evade
im addicted to movesped from swiftness lol
yeah i tried doing that
but then i kept dieing pressing spacebar and not moving
guess i just need to learn it
but its hard
yup, but only one way to get better
RRs?
practice
penumbra is okay, but crab ring + siphon of anguish is too good, especially when combined with shattered chains belt
i was using penumbra before i got chains
doesn't doom stop at like 3 stacks?
pearls of the swine (physical damage version) is also cheap, and provides good resistances
i guess 15% more damage on belt is pretty good....
do you have mana issues?
4 stacks, and doom itself also gives more melee damage, so you get more damage is 2 places with that combo
hmm
i run out sometimes, but i mitigate it by speccing umbral blades to give mana when i shift, i also use the mana blessing from lagon
and the mana regen passives in bladedancer and falconer
i never had mana issues because of t5 mana regen on 4 pieces of gear
so i dont want to get rid of that
should i take out some health for endurance?
when i get low i just stop going so hard on damage, only doing sync strike into shift and watiting for shift cd until i regen
Ye but you dont exactly need it... sure If you manage to get weaver sword with crit multi roll, thats pretty cool, but I barely even drop the weaver swords 😄
i would ya, having to wait around for mana on occasion is worth not getting oneshot
and its only in big boss fights
i never run out while mapping
i wonder about the taste of blood axe
Falconer is op I finally killed uber abberoth
it reduces bleed time by half but speeds up the damage
and having 1 axe 1 sword allows the dual wield passive node in bladedancer proc into bonus bleed chance
Ohh explosive trap? Lol. And did you use bow or daggers
Yeah I used a bow. I just got the shattered worlds from the boss
I feel like taste of blood is such a bait
making bleeds do the same damage but faster is just not that good
compared to just way more bleeds
you arn't gaining boss dps with that other than the final 2 seconds of the fight
because the entire time before that you are appling the same number of bleeds per second
yeah it feels only like qol during clear so far
taking hlaf the time to kill the trash mobs
Never really tried Taste of Blood myself, Ive only tried Undisputed long time ago... but If I really went for axe, I just used exalted Dragonbone/Vengari... aaand still I rather use two swords, idols for bleed chance per sword, affix for bleed chance per sword and you get 40% GB easily... with two swords Ive already got 761% bleed chance unbuffed 😄 Dancing Strikes and I was seeing 999stacks
its literally useless when there are so good bleed axe bases otherwise
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Can anyone explain to me why I am doing actually 0 damage to aberroth with this? I am at a loss as for what I need to do other than just get more dex
you have no CDR on belt/boots so you arn't chaining fast enough
and you probably oonly have 4 max stacks of smoke blades instead of 8 which is where most of our damage come sfrom
I have a belt that has cdr on it jsut no throwing damage
and boots aswell
but id lose more dex
are those not as important?
old mediocre gear, didnt even bothered slamming 2LP Salts, could get way better amulet now (physical swine looks really nice; or just Nihilis gang gaming), better t7 slams on belt (even got 4LP Thorn belt in stash), Blood of the Exiles got t5 dex and t7 cdr of course, Valdyr is potato slam with 2x T5 😄
not even the rings+amu got t7
smh I should update it at least sometime...
dex is also important but you should get that on relic and maybe helm
- could try crafting way better set helmet now with the set affix shards...
yeah I can get higher HP i just lose more dex
other helm/chest are t5 dex+t7 % max health
you could just use HP idols tbh
yeah
when you spam smokebomb in place how many stacks of smoke blades do you get to?
7 for like .2 seconds
i put on belt/boots with 63% cdr total on them
is it supposed to be higher?
yeah now that im thinking about it i forgot about how good a stat stick the bleed chance per sword idols are
oh wait yo udont have cloud gatherer either
maybe ill slot in rainbows edge and gladiators oath
thats why you are missing a stack
the 3 lps are dirt cheap and they both have crit multi
its in divebomb but its optional
generally you get it if you go for crimson shourd on the tree which you did
but i really think CDR would help
you should try without messing with talents
I tried again but dmg seems a bit lower
your next dex breakpoints kind of just come from 1lp RRs as rare as that is
probably because i went down 2 dex breakpoints
yeah ill try and farm some of those then
idk how to get the relic LP as i cant even kill boss xD
i mean you can just get good
my first 10 ubberoth kills were all like 5+ min fights
before i came here and learned the dagger build
Yeah you can easily kill it in like 90 seconds kind of crazy
Then what did it drop to
Yeah 😄 another thing I kinda want is t7 bleed chance per sword on body together with t5+ bleed chanc for shurikens...since Dancing Strikes can throw shurikens and work with Flip of a Coin, so thats a lot of bleed stacks real fast
Yeah I’m running shurikens too, it’s very fun
Isn’t bleed chance on shuriken on helmet ?
I was running t5 melee chance to dark shroud + t7 bleed per sword
Unfortunately the other two stats are total garbage
What belt do yall recommend for falconer? I’ve seen two different ones used
Not sure about helmet tbh, body for sure 😄
Ye same its good... increased damage while wielding sword also works, but kinda meh
What are the primary dmg scalers you would say? Bleed chance > crit multi> physical damage/physical pen?
DoT/%Physical damage idk which one scales better tho, bleed chance, crit multi over phys pen if you run Salts, then I dont really bother with phys pen at all, maybe some of the weaver idols
The highest of ur scaling dmg type have 50% effectivity to a falcon
ah nvm its both helmet and body armor... that could be really funny tbh, trash mobs getting cleared just with shuriken's blade shield basically 😄
This thing gives 150% of your flat throwing damage to your bird
all the damage comes from this
because smoke bomb gives you a free 160 flat throwing damage
Sorry noob question here, why does my Aerial Assault stops when I cast Falcon Strikes & vice versa? I thought I can have them all running at the same time?
They can cansel animation if u asking about interrupt
and u have only 1 parrot, how can he cast 3 different skill in 1 time
Meaning the damage is actually continuing, just "invisible"?
Yeah that makes sense, but I'm trying to wrap my head around the holding 3 buttons down build for falconer
Like how does that work
If they keep on interrupting each other
in reality u trading some damage for QoL
So each one will release their payload sequentially?
i mean only one way to not interrupt anything is press buttons by your hand manually
I mean I would love to have qol as long as dmg is not affected. So I hope this q is fine here, but what's the difference between ahk & numlocking those 3?
nothing in general
ahk just spam buttons, while numlock is preeing it in
so its like u tap 100500 times VS u hold button
puttin*
ok i think u got it
So same output then
Ok got it thanks
So the only reason for skilling up umbral dagger is for the falcon cast right?
You don't need to manually cast it
Since I see so many of these falconer builds with only 19 points allocated
And have like 5 or so extra points
Are they just different config between mapping vs bossing?
yeah for bossing you want the daggers to stick in the ground as long as possible to scale extra divebomb damage
when mapping you put those points into explosions
becuase thats better aoe clear
once you get to reasonably high coruption getting 5 levels in a skill takes like 1/5 an echo
but I only really take the points out for ubberoth or chaining normal abberoth
or maybe chaining timeline bosses with envies
Explosions are burst of agony side, or bladestorm?
both technically
bladestorm is more for shadow daggers procs
but i put both of those nodes back
So if I only have points for 1 of those 2, which should I prioritize?
what is your max skill level
26
do this
the cold is just for random freezes
which helps survive
you can move those 3 points into bleed for a tiny bit of extra damage if you want
Ok thanks a lot! The recalling part doesn't matter?
you cant recall daggers thrown by the falcon
even if you wanted to
and even if you could to you cant recall daggers with explosvie blades allocated
Ok got it thank you
I'm following this build atm. Is there a good unique relic before shattered? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYe5MW2o
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)
▸ Health: 2,276, Regen: 42.2/s
▸ Mana: 201.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 133 Dex / 13 Int / 13 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 70% / 70% / 85% / 89% / 65% / 70%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 455
▸ Dodge Chance: 51% (1978)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,583)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%
yeah it has the chance to bleed points in
I know the build itself use only exalted
for boss damage
those are very minor
if you are focusing on echos you really dont need them
for bossing its technically a dps increase
so its in the guide
idk what you mean by this? did you mean only legendary?
what you linked is a good budget version to aim for and get started
Is there a better unique relic than the proposed exalted?
shattered worlds
not really
you could use a 2lp Ucenui's
it scales the umbral damage
if you keep it converted
but its really not a big deal
u can use any relic with T7 dex even its exalted still okay
actually you cant use the xbow mercenry relic!
becuase it steals the neck buff
so dont use that one
but any other relic
(it does look tempting becuase it has dex)
it come back to old build, falconer divebomb sync strike
they nerfed falconer but give him amulet
Just to confirm, it's only the implicit that is good in this one right?
on ucenui's?
Ya
if you keep int and attunement equal (1=1) it gives you like 270% increased cold damage or soemthing
which scales umbrals damage
Ohh! Interesting
but again this is a divebomb build that ends up being a small number
60% dodge, 120 dex bomb nuke play, I like its style, maybe umbral is more powerfull mech, 600 corrupt and its going well
are those the boots with +4 smokebomb?
yea, muuuuch of dodge rate 🙂
ucenui, but need a bit swap in blessings, also can go rogue weaver relic
max roll dodge 32%+ 252 dodging rate, ofc +32 CDR
but u need find good stats on it
wow what lagnuage is that
polska
haha 😄
yours seems well rolled though max smoke bomb max dodge%
just farming trought Weavers Tree imprint
Ok thanks @verbal pier @undone dune @cosmic briar , I'll study up on all the stated options
exalted relic is hoenstly fine till uber
But I want to do uber lol
right
and after uber you get shatterd world
i would focus more on getting higher LP on weapons
and helm
much easier slots to upgrade
and then run 1000s of cemetaries (not tombs) till the game gives you a decent neck
ucenui 2lp is not a problem
it uses the same imprint slot as red ring :*(
its not like sword or helm that you can get tons of from running troves
only difference is u will get it even 2lp in couple of maps
while u can imprint RR and farm whole day for get nothing
well i guess helm is a dungeon drop so that cant be imprintd either
yes
ucenui is even more common than traitor
This is true
but you cant put it in the imprint slot that drops from troves
a way way way more common
I do have red ring imprinted
opal with t7 dex probably will not be SO bad
agreed
my uber was dead w/o RR
t7 dex + flat throwing
It's ok later when I'm back from work I'll check ouf ucenui's price
doesn't even need to be opal
even with only flat dex
if u on MG
then just took 2lp ucenui
Opal? Do you mean base?
and dnt fck your brain with it
yeah exalted rings
it cost nothing
Lol
yeaaa :DD
redring is good but uber will 1 shot you anyway most of the time
t7dex t5 throw
t7 dex -> t5 throw -> health
Will do thanks
opal is best but silver is also decent
movespeed is never bad on that fight
lots of dodging
why
you dont like movespeed?
just dont need it in uber fight
you do with only 120dex
I honestly don't know if I can even get to 180 for red rings
we open fight with smoke bomb, damaging him till explosion, spacebar out, smoke bomb to harb, smoke bomb to uberroth, if phase wasnt skip 1 more smoke bomb from triangle
finished
u dont need
If I can't I'll probably just get phantom grips or something
was ok with 160 with opals
redring is not used in the build for the DR its used because no other ring can have 21 dex on it
yep
this build would use redring if it increased the damage you take
and in this case u need not probably RR
u need lp1 rr
and trust me u dont wanna focus on it
ESPECIALLY if u MG player
Opal you mean exalted right?
yeah
Yeah I only have the base red ring
opal is the base with 10% CDR and +2 all attributes
i get my RRs as last upgrades
so you just get an exalted ring
before 4lp helmet or belt maybe xD
Target stats?
and i just bought clear rings and pull them to nemesis
t7 dex -> t5 throwing
t7 dex => throwing => something u want to
taht what we were saying earlier
Oh I thought that's for ucenui lol
u wanna dex on any part of gear can have it
dex is your bread and butter
since every 20dex scale u as hell
Even over plus skills?
those are different slots
xD i can say in last upgrades u will have more skillpoints than u need
oh also for this thing, you really want throwing damage, physical pen, or crit multi
any of those 3 stats t7 makes a really good neck
So I don't need for example that +3 to falconry and stuff? Rip already bought those
you dont need to get 2 of them
Only 1 rule where u took cooldown reduction before dex is your razorfall
+3 falconry very useful early on when you dont have shattered worlds, you dont need it eventauly
because slamming lp2 razorfall is fcking shittiest thing i ever done
so get a 1lp with +3 your 2lp or 3lp blood roost doens't matter
just focus on the dex roll
Ok now I feel better lol
Thats a story about how Tsuba tried to get his last dex portion
xD
this fcking boot already eat more than 30billion of gold
i had to roll like 10 more pairs of gloves to get +1 dex
Oh wow that sucks
Rip man
because of u all love Brew belt sooomuch

i use jungle queen
i love brew belt for HS
the f then u got 219
i am pretty sure ill be at ~230 with t7 on razorfall and cant hit 220 without it even with perfect dex on any gearpiece
how would you ever hit 220 dex without jungle queen
exactly
but then they will, ill be able even with worst roll on gloves i think
sec
need to login back since i burned then miss with boots
funnyest thing is i really dont need that upgrade
_>
"need" is such a strong word when my boss killer kills the boss in 40 seconds
ye
it does
it increses shadow dagger damage
it increase ur minuon phys dmg%
dk really, wasnt seen changes while tested with 2x 160% inc
so i just added minion damage to belt
(just for find that wasnt do any shit too)

wait how does it increase minion phys damage
true damage coming for flat+ dex scaling 😉
from passive nodes
i thought only the highest of your global increased melee/throw/bow got converted
also
but physical isn't throwing
he mean while u proc consuming, it must use one of your global inc phys, throwing, bow etc for boost your falcoy
the only thing that is global throwing damage is that one pair of unique gloves
this proc is for flat
problem is this node or even dnt work or work in some weird wat
not increased
wording saying about increased
right but thats not elemental
but this shit doesnt work as this node say
thats only global melee
at anyway
Iv got only 65% increase minion damage and the falcons does milions damage, that I pass with gear % to minion dmg and put +16 dex
well then i test damage on dummy
without belt its 203%
why are the nodes so wordy if they dont even do what they say
damage of shadow blades was x2 with inc
but result in how fast it lost hp
was a fcking same
so...
who cares
its so confusing
its not the only iteraction on falconer wich works in weird way
yeah
for dive bomb u cant check it on dummy cause his damage number on dummy absurd
thats why Juse changing setup in every 1-2 video ahahah
none of the nodes do what I think they do hte first 5 times i read them
i dont wanna say 'tested on uberroth' cos on him things became even more weird
as example sometimes i just stop doing damage
why? who the fck knows
no reason but it is as it is
another time he dying in 40 seconds, another time cant skip explosion
why? who the fck knows x2
yeahh
i feel like sometimes I push him to like 50% before he gains damage immunity from summoning a harbiner and sometimes its like 67%
doing too much damage just confuses his script
but divebomb now comeback to old build using sync strike, I use to upload it a days ago maybe someone youtube already test it again with min maxing gear
i talking about moments then u somehow stop damaging him
yeah
not at immunity phase
but he has scripted immunity it might just be kicking in at the wrong time
cause it got really confused
Anyone knows if minion melee damage on weapon is inherited from this? Or it's even better since it's 100% rather than a small percentage
Just had a misslam
-100 ascendant runes
Does anyone have a Cinderstrike MELEE build using Falcon Fist Gloves?
Please clean your mess from the End of Time, you cant just simply dump your trash in the space, its not good
your falcon wont gain damage if it has minion melee itself becuase it doesn't summon any minions
thats not how that works
you just want flat damage on the daggers, not %increased. phys is best but any element works
You get 50% damage increase to minion phys from the belt 50% minion phys affix, exalted inc phys does nothing 
No I mean minion melee on the myself is providing my falcon melee damage
I know, it's just a budget thing you see
the only slot you would realistically fit it is belt
and its just not as good as CDR or throwing damage
Because I target a t5 flat but didn't get it
it will do something but not much
What nodes use the flat damage other than the one above?
Oh wow that's so good
150% max?
Did they fix falconer dive bomb with controllers? Was thinking about trying it again
they fixed aerial assault
Juse was saying the minion build is stronger for bossing.
But if we are running echos we should just use the default umbral blades hybrid falconry version?
3500hp, 60% endurance and got 1 hit from Herold on 600c bruh
how's fire heartseeker right now?
hows it performing
just dropped a 3lp dragonsong
But having % physical damage increase on the belt for example, still buffs minion damage since they are physical right?
Yes correct. Flat elemental damage
For belt is CDR - Throwing - Minion / Physical damage right ?
^
CDR > throwing >hbyrd health
higher dps but not high enough to matter and it makes you super sqishy
ice is also squishty...
but ice can be screens away
AHH okay. If I can get the slam in I'll gladly take a % hp hybrid health haha
not melee
Trying to get good exalted belts is tough
tbh the best 2nd prefix is probably like experimental traversal CD reduction on potion use
but good luck getting that
phys or minion are fine
Wow that's interesting haha.
Yeah sometimes got to make do
actually this makes me think
with LL and shift + LL pot on shift
can you just spam shift until you run out of pots
pretty much
might need 100% potion convert too
ah true
i wonder if thats useful for anything, probably not
well its probs useful for shadow cascade builds as almost no cd shift would be pretty big dps increase compared to what they usually do right
also uptime on the evade per dex shift node
Exsa with potion drank + Shift with Momentum = 65-80% movement speed = 65-80% increased damage, so... yeah 😄
speedy :d
#🔪┃rogue message check this out... it should be a bit more even with some of the weaver large idol enchant I think
nvm I counted that there already... 😄
that is a lot of ms, very nice that this game allows you to actually be fast (unlike some other games xd)
Not as speedy as that one build in PoE thats literally a speed hack, but yeah 😄
I swear juse has like 20 variants of this falconer rogue build lol
will the Acid Flask's "poison pen per uncapped poison res" node be converted to cold penetration with cold/frostbite with the Vial of Volitile Ice offhand?
I droped idol with HS recurve chance and dmh with bows than my game froze and dced. Sadge
also is there any way to scale Acid Flask base damage from something other than Throwing Damage affixes aside from Mourningfrost boots?
What am i doing wrong with dive bomb falconer? I have all the pieces it says i need and still hitting hundreds of damage with bird. I have not rolled the extra perks on the uniques yet because wanted to test it out first. But still hundreds only???? no way
this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Minion damage is worth more than 30% of added "regular" damage, is it not?
testing in s0 and s1 had flat damage behind other damage stats, and talon knives got halved. I don't see how flat is coming out ahead after a nerf
because avian arsenal was untouched and still gives 150% of flat damage mods
also minion damage is addative with dex bonus

which is super high because we have like 220
ok on paper, but that assumes you have very little throwing damage
and you can only proc arsenal with sync strike for melee
no
?

then it gets procced by shadow daggers
which is melee
which are procced by umbral blades
I can't bro this falconers
and at 200 dex you are hitting 5 times with shadow blades every AA
ill ask another question but
do you really think you can impact your mark getting hit by a proc over a dagger that comes out immediately after?
Have no idea what they are doing and why
yep
they really have no idea
read skill, dont test skill, think skill works, change build a day later
At least they know how to but t7 flat lightning/fire daggers for 1.5b
and you'd still have to have more melee than throwing
make a dagger with minion damage and show me a crit greater than 1.2 billion
but you can have 5 stacks of throwing and 5 stacks of melee avian arsenal
as long as your bird is hitting enough
umbral blades
ohh i dont
when you use sync strike
i dont know how Juse did it
lmao no wonder this conversation got so weird to me
he probably has shadow daggers in synch strike
but taht doens't sound like enough procs
and, this would be the first time someone has ever said you can have 5 stacks of melee and 5 stacks of throwing

