#🔪┃rogue

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paper leaf
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soo i've -20 all

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i got lucky i got void than xd

flint turret
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Ez void res boots clap don't thank

paper leaf
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i miss it, ahahah i've to farm the reign of dragons

flint turret
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You can slam t7 crit avoid on a rr and use all res Bee

undone dune
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oh of course just get another 1lp RR how did i not think of that

flint turret
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It's not as bad as it sounds I swear

undone dune
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how many 1lp RRs do you have?

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crazy

junior oriole
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If the game was balanced, Uber aby would be hard on all classes and then I won't be able to kill him at all!...so yes imbalance is good!

flint turret
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Rr is not really an issue in cof tbh

undone dune
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then again I took RR out of my imprints once I got my 2 so that I could find upgrades to other slots

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so maybe i would have spares

flint turret
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Well if being serious no one forces to slam t7 avoid on a ring. It can be slammed on boots, gloves, belt and helmet too. I'd say the best slot is helm

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Peak 3lp drop en masse so you can have multiple copies of them slammed as you see fit

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Tundra+t5 reduction on body is another good option

paper leaf
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This stupid blessing don't come out

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FFS

flint turret
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My personal record is 18 kills to find a crit multi blessing for a first time at 200+ corr

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I'm not even talking about roll

undone dune
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18 is a lot...

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i think i was up to like 800 corruption before I found >14% allres this season though it just always min rolled even with lucky blessing ranges

paper leaf
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_> more evasion

flint turret
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Who cares

paper leaf
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Evasion= more tanky

flint turret
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You should be having like 20+ D's stacks in that build

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Who cares about 20 dodge

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% dodge is huge tho

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I was running t7 amulet dodge % on nihilis for the whole time until Uber abby

pearl forge
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i just accept sometimes i must die to a crit

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or they are blinded

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although with foot of the mountain it is unlikely i die to almost anything unless it is meant to

flint turret
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Foot viability fell of a cliff with wasd movement. It's much easier to just sidestep most of attacks now instead of tanking them

pearl forge
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while im using sync or LM i have to stay still for a bit

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and well 12 stats is 12 stats and endurance too

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so i can change blessing there

paper leaf
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Ok i'm rlly tanky now ^^ But i losed half of my tooltip 😦

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I need that new helmet >_>
T7 Dex
T6 Increased Damage while wielding a Bow
t5 phys res
t5 cold res

IF anyone has this helmet i buy it ❤️

flint turret
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Yeah and fire too, in nodes

paper leaf
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SOOO this mod is usless on my idol ncreased Bow Damage 😦

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REEEEEEEEE

flint turret
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Not useless but not optimal

paper leaf
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i need to buy x2 idols with health and Increased Damage while wielding a Bow

slate mulch
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so for shadow cascade vs shurken chakrams bladedancer? what do you guys think is hte better overall build?

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and can either of them deal with uber aberroth? both seem to use low life shenanigans, and i sort of doubt rogue can generate enough ward to deal with uber aberroth DOT

flint turret
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You can just use health+cold/eleres idols

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Or cold pen idols if you want more damage

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The only good big damage idol is the huge idol with recurve imo

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Slammed with repeat a bow attack

paper leaf
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health+smth i like this

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this one i think

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20% cold res is 4% pen, i think is fine

flint turret
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Eh, not a fan of that cold pen without shackles to double it as ward retention

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2-3 points in consume shadows on hs is 20%-30% more damage without any cold res shenanigans(if you have shadows)

snow ember
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Ravager's Dart feels absolutely hard limited by the 3s limit on the item... Anyone actually done anything with this?

slate mulch
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since shadow cascades seem to rely on low life shift to cover a lot of its mana costs

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or actually wait i think both do

flint turret
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But it's more or less ranged at least

slate mulch
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yeah uber aberroth looks like pure pain to deal with melee

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with all the nonsense flying around everywhere

slate mulch
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1st time im trying rogue so not too familair with all the mechanics yet

flint turret
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Using falconer for free mana is also an option buuuuut

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Red rings+nihilis can give lots of mana regen via implicits

slate mulch
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thats true, if only i could drop them GigaChad

flint turret
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If you are aiming for Uber Abby and you don't intend to invest at least to this extent, I don't think bd or mm is a good choice

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You need to be either cracked at gear or with your fingers, or preferably both

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Last time devs pulled their stats only 3bds cleared Uber abby

slate mulch
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yeah i can imagine, i only really push one char to its max per season, so eventually ill be getting those rare drops

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unsure as to whether to commit to chakrams/cascade/or lethal mirage

flint turret
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I'm curious about that myself too. But doing it on my hs I don't feel like ward is gonna fly

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It's useless almost

slate mulch
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yeah, i saw a fairly well built low life shadow cascade try uber aberroth and get insta deleted

flint turret
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Getting to the last phase won't be an issue

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The last phase is a big concern for ward tho

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I'm not saying it's impossible, I'd like to see how it's done myself, but I don't have confidence in ll rogue from my experience with Uber abby

slate mulch
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youre probably a lot more knowledgeable than me as this is my 1st time trying this class

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ive been shopping around for some lethal mirage builds since the skill looked cool, they seem to run life builds

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but the issue is the DPS does not look consistent enough

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potentially not high enough either

pearl forge
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dps is fine problem is not getting hit

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being melee

slate mulch
pearl forge
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i chunk around 30% of his life every cast

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problem is sometimes you cant do the full combo

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so it will be less

flint turret
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I haven't tried Uber Abby with low life set-up myself, but like I said last phase is where you will be getting 20+ stacks of frailty and you need to recover thousands of hp/ward per second to stay alive

slate mulch
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youre using all the flow/piano setups right

pearl forge
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for low life you can just have cleanse on smoke and shift

flint turret
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Is it possible as ward? Probably yes. Is it reasonable? Dunno

pearl forge
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having a cleanse every 1.7 secs

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has to be enough

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problem is not shifting into some random bs

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cant count the times i have died to it

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i have gotten him to more than 50% without trying super hard tho

flint turret
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You can't shift that much in the last phase. Ground is burning, Uber Abby spinning his D, lasers are everywhere

pearl forge
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good thing at least is you can pre combo for the harb spawn and just insta delete it

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yea man that blade of chaos

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super omega hidden killer

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when i get my red rings and titan will be easier

flint turret
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And you need to keep traversal for succ/spin/3-sector

slate mulch
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didnt you already have a titan?

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or do you mean 3lp?

pearl forge
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i have to slam it

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i have 3 2lp and 1 3lp

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but the 3lp is only 7 all stat

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others are 11 12 12

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at least i got another 3lp blade so

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maybe i hit this time

slate mulch
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statistically likely

pearl forge
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i will try to make a 4 mod one

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to avoid being krangled like last time

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with lightning flat multi shred and light pen

flint turret
pearl forge
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yea at most i have spent like 30 min at a time

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one day i just go marathon mode when i think i can

flint turret
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Don't forget to record a video. I wanna see at least one bd clear

slate mulch
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the ehg sheet said there were 3 so far, unfortunately none recorded

flint turret
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Yeah I haven't seen any

slate mulch
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idk if LE is big in china/korea but maybe its uploaded in the depths of one of their native video sites

flint turret
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Generally dots are looking better for Uber

slate mulch
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bleed dancing strikes GigaChad

flint turret
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Because you have more time where you are leeching without actually attacking

slate mulch
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i saw a build from 1.0 reach 1k corr using dancing strikes, but the clear looked so awfully slow and clunky

flint turret
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And it's a huge factor when you will be staying during the spin in the last phase and then you need to run across to the other side through 10 lasers and 10 pools

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And stay there before wave ends

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It's gonna be hard for melee-ish builds

slate mulch
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yeah the melee builds i see doing it right now are both nigh immortal and do 50x the damage of bladedancer

flint turret
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Vise gloves is a huge factor too. If you wanna have better chances. I didn't want to use anything from Uber Abby before killing it, but bd might need it

paper leaf
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Has anyone an idea how to craft this helmet? Maybe i ask too much and i need to use only t7 dex and not t6 dmg
T7 Dex
T6 Increased Damage while wielding a Bow
t5 phys res
t5 cold res

flint turret
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You can't craft double exalt at least somewhat reliable

pearl forge
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you need to imprint a t7 t6 helmet

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then just havoc/redemption it up

flint turret
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The prefix pool is huge, it's not happening

pearl forge
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not really any t6 t7 works

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you can mode things around

flint turret
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Maybe imprinting double exalted suffixes

pearl forge
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with remove and crafting what you want and despair etc

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that is how i crafted my chest

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and swords

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hardest part is getting the base

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you can just spam tower of nemesis

flint turret
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Mode around consumes lots of fps so it needs to get a huge luck to finish it

pearl forge
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nemesis items have huge fp

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and yea you will run through some for sure

flint turret
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Tbh I don't recommend investing in it before doing 7-5-5-5 peak. The chances are that you will get a second or a few more 4lp peaks before getting those multi exalted with the exact 4 affixes you need

paper leaf
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i will slam the peak with t7 t5 t5 t5 than

flint turret
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Just buying one with double exalted phys/cold/dex should be more or less reasonable because those are common affixes at least

paper leaf
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i don't wanna keep the one i've, it has few usless mods

flint turret
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But I have no idea about it's prices

radiant flume
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just had an absolute beast carry me in uber thank you Max 🍻

paper leaf
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has this sealed cold res ?

flint turret
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Probably yes, can't you hold alt or smth?

paper leaf
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no --.

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oh i can over it

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omg

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never notice

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ye sadly

flint turret
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It's dead

slate mulch
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rip

flint turret
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You need only 1 of the the prefix you need+either open prefix or t1-t2 prefix in another slot at most

paper leaf
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😦

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can't find anything on trade, reeeeeeee

flint turret
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Well

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If you are not fixed on damage with bow

paper leaf
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i'm checking for recurve too, idk others

flint turret
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You can also look for int/att/str +cold/phys res

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And add vit as a second prefix

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This will increase the item options x5

paper leaf
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i don't think non rogue helmet can add a rogue tag mod

flint turret
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Ofc It can't that why I said vit+dex in the end

paper leaf
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t7 dex t7 int

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ahahha

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to use uceni

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xd

flint turret
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You can't

paper leaf
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oh sad ahaha

flint turret
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Or wait

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Maybe you do

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Oh wow

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I think you do

paper leaf
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big brain, see? omegalul

flint turret
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You first swap str/int/att to dex and then add another one of int

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Huge

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You need bases that roll.int

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Huge brain

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Actually huge

paper leaf
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that's sad base 😦

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i should buy it and try to anull vitality

flint turret
paper leaf
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the rng? Xd

flint turret
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You first will have to swap int to dex, and then add int, meaning the int will be t5 unless havoc it

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And t5 int isn't enough

paper leaf
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i need t7 int to pair it with attunment

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exactly 15

flint turret
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That's what I said

paper leaf
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oh i see

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true

flint turret
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Okay change of plans

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You look up t7 dex, swap it to int, and add t5 dex

paper leaf
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0 helmet on market with t7 dex , phys res cold res

flint turret
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God dam fulcokers

paper leaf
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there is this one

flint turret
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Whelp, the plan was interesting tho Bee

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Meh it's pretty much dead

paper leaf
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ye

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_>

flint turret
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Unless you havoc devouring into t1

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An nwm it has seal, it's dead either way

paper leaf
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maybe i should remove 1 res

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and put life?

flint turret
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you can

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you can also look for t7 avoidance even, that will open up all res bless

paper leaf
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str to int, havoc hope until it t6 dex?

flint turret
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Hmmm, you can actually cap endurance with this +brew belt

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It will open up flat armor blessing or dodge %

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And you don't need 16 int you will need to refine it too

paper leaf
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i need 15, soo i need to roll

flint turret
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This is weird, I didn't know you can put dex on sent helm

paper leaf
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i'm not sure

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but the map should force it

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oh it has it alredy

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nvm

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WAIT

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if i havoc

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and str become t6 and dex t7 i can swap them in the map

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xfect broken

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i go farm, i'm sick

slate mulch
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i bought some random bleed dancing strikes gear for fun

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and the damage isnt half bad wow

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atrocious clear though

ocean granite
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Davy, can you even wear this ?

slate mulch
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i guess a shadow cascades dancing strikes build would have way better clear but i dont think it could do half the damage

paper leaf
ocean granite
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I know i have to fix reses, constantly working on it

flint turret
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1 week @ has better bow than i had to kill uber abby with fml

sharp sinew
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if i slam a sentinel helm into my mountain of endurance, with all generic stats, would it lock the helm out of my rogue?

junior oriole
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you killed uber aby on MM?

flint turret
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with crit hs yeah

junior oriole
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nice...

flint turret
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link to vid somewhere above nad planner too

flint turret
# ocean granite https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/lin60jpa Hi, some more expirienced players...

get a decent body - titan\wall\null\core with +4 HS
get decent rings - RR\crab\nomad
get decent gloves - ravs\vise\boulder\river\paws
get decent belt - brew\jungle\elecoe
get nihilis ammy
do better slams on peak\boots\relic(relic can be anchor as well)
remove 3 points crit from the HS tree add 1 point in chill\freeze and bone piercer
remove death from afar and leave sharpshooter at 1 add it into the mm passive barrage of pain
cap your endurance at 60%
try to avoid using idols that give phys\void\necro\poison res because they have terrible prefixes, get those res on gear if needed and isols to hp%\eleres

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overall pretty good

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nop

ocean granite
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LUV ❤️

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For what Idol Prefixes should i aim then ?

flint turret
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hp% or cold penetration

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depemding on you want to live or to kill

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works

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for what?

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dunno

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you wont need cold shred for it probably

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if you overcap cold res you will be having lots of cold pen already

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they do, additivly

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i mean +-20 is not a big deal if you already have 200

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75% cold res gives more anyway

finite arch
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man i could of hit flat bow cold dmg, but hit cold pen .....

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left is new, right was old

flint turret
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bro

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not slamming t7 flat crit is illegal, and t7 with 9% is illegal too

finite arch
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t6 yea

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ive havent gotten a t7 yet

flint turret
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also pen is better than flat probably

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depending on your idols and dex tho

finite arch
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yea i need flat but i hit the pen

flint turret
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theese guys with 2lp rows icant bro

finite arch
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ive been farming all day

paper leaf
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OOOO there are lp4 troaka's

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i didnt know O_O

flint turret
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Last time I turtled 2 full stash tabs of rows I didn't get any 2lp. And I did it as cof

paper leaf
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quiver mod? dex atk speed , res res? Xd

flint turret
steady lark
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on the troak quiver what stat do u care about most?

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just dropped a 2lp

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but flat cold dmg

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is 12 😦

paper leaf
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Atk speed
Dex
res
res

steady lark
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i have only a 1lp equipped

flint turret
flint turret
steady lark
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well

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u gotta start w smth XD

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either or

paper leaf
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i don't wanna change my quiver 💔 but those 2 more slot of res for a tier of dex seems worth xd

livid river
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guys anyone plays heartseeker fire? in high zones and bosses i always run out of mana would love if someone dm ill show my gear and would love some guidance

flint turret
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If you run out of mana just drop out burning daggers

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I actually haven't seen high corr fire, so I'd like to see it too if someone has

livid river
paper leaf
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the onley way u have to keep using fire Hs is gain more mana ZZ_ZZ

flint turret
flint turret
livid river
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my gear is still fairly bad tho

livid river
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i obviously need ALOT of gear upgrades soon

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also sounds like i need a change in my hs tree

flint turret
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i havent played fire much, i swapped to cold as soon as i got a slammed row, but id do it something like that

livid river
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need that 2 points for the puncture

flint turret
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oh yeah and puncture ofc

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remove dusk shrouds for now intil you get +4 body

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its pretty important to have +4 hs

steady lark
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bro

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how on earht

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are peole doin g harbor

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on tier 4

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on rogue

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i keep dying second phase

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from the lasers

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skill issue i guess

flint turret
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just dont get hit by them bro

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the safe zone is in the opposite direction of where they start

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you cal also shift through them

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smoke trav through

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even evade

steady lark
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i see

livid river
steady lark
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but there is also this ball flying around

flint turret
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hidden skewer

flint turret
steady lark
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i am on 1.3k life

flint turret
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whelps

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like i said

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big ehp issues

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either get much more damage to burst it or fix your ehp

steady lark
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ye

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getting perma 1 shot

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from the flying ball

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i dodge the lasers

flint turret
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get 2.5k hp and youll be fine

steady lark
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spend 15 keys already

wraith nacelle
# livid river need that 2 points for the puncture

If your struggling with mana on a fire heart seeker you need to put a few points in to mana on hit . The node just above the fire section in the bottom middle . Iv been running three on there and haven’t been having much issues . This should allow you to keep running burning daggers with cinder strike synergy . That’s the set up iv ran up to 1200 c

slate mulch
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any new uniques from 1.2 you guys think will juice up dancing strikes?

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naal's tooth has a nice crit multi

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im curious about the weaver sword scisser of atropos

wraith nacelle
ripe flare
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damn, im currently ZOOMIN on multishot

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that shits fun

serene crane
vivid ice
flint turret
slate mulch
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For salt the wound bleed specifically atleast

wraith nacelle
flint turret
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5 points overall for 33% chance of burning daggers looks pretty terrible on paper

wraith nacelle
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Yea its been fine though iv got 124 dex stacked with that so a ton of recurve chance from that so its still spawning a ton of daggers

flint turret
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But for the same 6 points you could get 30% more attack speed with hs+16% more damage and 10 more recurve instead of daggers

silent relic
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I hope rogue gets some attention in 1.3 to maybe bring up the other 2 subclasses to falconer. I know it’s acolyte time but seeing 3 bd clears for uberroth was sad

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I think I’m also still tilted about blast rain getting rekt for no reason too lol

flint turret
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That's like 50% more damage for hs overall at the cost of 34% burning daggers, and also a free skill slot instead of cinder, which can become puncture for much better clear

slate mulch
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Has anyone investing in cinder strike?

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Or is it just a meme

flint turret
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I do agree that blast rain was butchered for no reason tho

wraith nacelle
sharp sinew
flint turret
flint turret
silent relic
flint turret
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Weird changes imo

sharp sinew
flint turret
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Equalization could be useful for sure, but I think bd vs mm is already balanced well. They consistently fail to do that with a falconer tho

flint turret
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You literally can burst Uber Abby with 1k life or whatever

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Which regular builds will take 5-15 mins to clear while following mechanics

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And building defences

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I didn't mind it much before because basically every half decent build could clear Abby, but with Uber Abby and classes like falconer it just destroys mg. Unless you kill Uber en masse yiu can't compete with the masteries that do. Flooding the market with 2b chains means hyperinflation for everyone, because sents and falconers are buying all idols and gear to slam for any price

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I'm myself playing cof so it doesn't really affect me but it's just bad for the game in general

slow sierra
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What chest is best for Cold Heartseeker?

kind atlas
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is the razorfall build that is doing uber in 30 secs or whatever essentially the same as the build from the 10k corruption video from last season?

scenic current
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Could anyone help me take an old build guide and update it so it works in the current season, if possible?

slate mulch
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lowkey dancing strikes is growing on me

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its surprisingly tanky and the damage is really high

terse bloom
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Highest dps in the game but you’d wanna use liraka so it’s squishier sustainwise

terse bloom
errant wolf
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any other falconers found the Blood Roost gloves really hard to find? I'm nearly maxed just about everything else but cant find these gloves despite using prophecies. Pretty sure my loot filters are right, cant even find a single drop of the gloves to ascend into them. Are they that rare?

ripe storm
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Curse of the 4LP!

In the process of rerolling and consolidating what gear I have in my stash.

Was wondering what the best way to get a good exalted bow to slam, and then which pieces of gear to focus on next for slamming?

(I am CoF and picking up prophecies for Quiver / Gloves / Relic)

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg49035o

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (22) / Falconer (52)

General:

▸ Health: 1,417, Regen: 18.46/s
▸ Mana: 164.15, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 98%, Regen: 24/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 67 Dex / 49 Int / 12 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / -8% / 22% / 7% / 42% / 73% / 86%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 436
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (645)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (461)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 59%

slate mulch
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can someone explain to me in a bleed build why the chance to bleefd is valuedf as a t7 mod

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over say something like flat or % damage

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specigically dancing strikes

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is there a benefit to stacking bleed chance higher? does it apply more over 100% etc

flint bough
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hey guys im having trouble beating 850 corruption shade. i can dodge everything except his melee attack that has started 1 hitting me. is there any way for melee shadow cascade bladedancer to dodge his melee attack? smoke bomb sometimes doesnt do it

jagged vale
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What kind of build is ravenous void used for?

bold brook
bold brook
flint bough
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how much more benficial will 41 be at 60? like a ton?

bold brook
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it makes a lot of difference in my experience

sharp ravenBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (65) / Falconer (19)

General:

▸ Health: 4,189, Regen: 45.31/s
▸ Mana: 216, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 27 Str / 32 Dex / 23 Int / 13 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 86% / 86% / 110% / 89% / 100% / 94% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 1,466
▸ Dodge Chance: 46% (1683)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,610)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 26%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 9%

bold brook
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before i bought immortal vise and shattered worlds i had Falcon Fist gloves and Anchor relic

flint bough
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what about my tree for skills and passives?

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I see you have a few different ones than i do

bold brook
#

steady hand in the rogue tree is definitly worth the points for the health

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ideally you would get crit from your gear so you wouldnt need critical precision

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wilderness scout and outlander's tenacity in falconer are excellent nodes for health and one shot protection

flint bough
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are there any quick fixes I can do in the passive tree right now/

bold brook
#

especially Exuberance

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you only ever need one point in there imo

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you can also take 3 out of Pursuit, 6% increased melee damage per point isnt great after you get the movespeed imo

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the one point in Scarlet Stream as well, not needed

flint bough
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alright thanks

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im getting to work on those

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okay i have 5 points

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where should i put them

bold brook
#

i would go Wilderness Scout in falconer, and work toward getting Outlander's Tenacity, especially after you cap your endurance eventually]

tranquil dagger
#

Any rogue builds that could make optimal use of this?

flint bough
bold brook
#

losing damage for durability is generally fine in my experience

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im almost always gated by lack of defense and not lack of damage

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dead dps is no dps after all

flint bough
#

how do i know if my shadow cascade has 100% crit chance?

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i think i can take some points if i dont take too many and go under 100%

bold brook
#

its a weird ability, its base crit is 10% for some reason, and with Traitor's Tongue in the offhand you only need 1 tier 7 crit chance on weapon to get most of the way there

flint bough
#

i have 14% crit chance for shadow cascade from a node

bold brook
#

after that its just getting a bit mroe crit from items / idols and/or invest a few points in the crit nodes in the tree

flint bough
#

precision

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also i have 550% crit multi

bold brook
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crit multi is your damage taht your crit does, not your chance to crit

flint bough
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i know

bold brook
#

if you use the spreadsheet, and input your numbers into the green cells it will tell you

flint bough
#

someone told me a few days ago that its crit chance divided by 8 times 13

bold brook
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the first green cell is flat crit. LE tools can tell you this when you hover on crit chance

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the second green cell is where you put what your character sheet says your crit chance is

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the third is where you put added crit from Precision

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the fourth is more crit from Blade Rush (not applicable to you currently)

bold brook
cobalt mantle
#

It would be right for the one specific case where your base crit is 13%, but you know your crit chance is calculated using a base of 8%... but not super useful otherwise

flint bough
bold brook
elder condor
#

Any of y’all do macros for falconer

bold brook
#

you can then drop a lot of cooldown reduction for more defenses

undone dune
#

wait you use the glacier on evade helm?

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is that any use or just a meme

bold brook
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but not for glacier

undone dune
#

i guess it single handedly eliminated crit damage for you

bold brook
#

440 armor + a ton of crit protection

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exactly

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and i just dont press evade

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because i use crab ring

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and have shift on short cd

undone dune
#

im addicited to evade

bold brook
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im addicted to movesped from swiftness lol

undone dune
#

yeah i tried doing that

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but then i kept dieing pressing spacebar and not moving

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guess i just need to learn it

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but its hard

bold brook
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yup, but only one way to get better

undone dune
#

RRs?

bold brook
#

practice

undone dune
#

but seriously is penumbra not good?

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im so suprized to never see it

bold brook
#

penumbra is okay, but crab ring + siphon of anguish is too good, especially when combined with shattered chains belt

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i was using penumbra before i got chains

undone dune
#

doesn't doom stop at like 3 stacks?

bold brook
undone dune
#

i guess 15% more damage on belt is pretty good....

bold brook
undone dune
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hmm

bold brook
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and the mana regen passives in bladedancer and falconer

flint bough
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so i dont want to get rid of that

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should i take out some health for endurance?

bold brook
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when i get low i just stop going so hard on damage, only doing sync strike into shift and watiting for shift cd until i regen

serene crane
bold brook
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and its only in big boss fights

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i never run out while mapping

slate mulch
gentle geyser
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Falconer is op I finally killed uber abberoth

slate mulch
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it reduces bleed time by half but speeds up the damage

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and having 1 axe 1 sword allows the dual wield passive node in bladedancer proc into bonus bleed chance

elder condor
gentle geyser
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Yeah I used a bow. I just got the shattered worlds from the boss

undone dune
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I feel like taste of blood is such a bait

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making bleeds do the same damage but faster is just not that good

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compared to just way more bleeds

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you arn't gaining boss dps with that other than the final 2 seconds of the fight

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because the entire time before that you are appling the same number of bleeds per second

slate mulch
#

yeah it feels only like qol during clear so far

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taking hlaf the time to kill the trash mobs

undone dune
#

clearspeed was just never my issue for BD

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it was always boss damage

serene crane
#

Never really tried Taste of Blood myself, Ive only tried Undisputed long time ago... but If I really went for axe, I just used exalted Dragonbone/Vengari... aaand still I rather use two swords, idols for bleed chance per sword, affix for bleed chance per sword and you get 40% GB easily... with two swords Ive already got 761% bleed chance unbuffed 😄 Dancing Strikes and I was seeing 999stacks

gentle basalt
tropic dune
undone dune
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and you probably oonly have 4 max stacks of smoke blades instead of 8 which is where most of our damage come sfrom

tropic dune
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I have a belt that has cdr on it jsut no throwing damage

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and boots aswell

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but id lose more dex

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are those not as important?

serene crane
#

old mediocre gear, didnt even bothered slamming 2LP Salts, could get way better amulet now (physical swine looks really nice; or just Nihilis gang gaming), better t7 slams on belt (even got 4LP Thorn belt in stash), Blood of the Exiles got t5 dex and t7 cdr of course, Valdyr is potato slam with 2x T5 😄

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not even the rings+amu got t7 omegalul smh I should update it at least sometime...

undone dune
#

dex is also important but you should get that on relic and maybe helm

serene crane
#
  • could try crafting way better set helmet now with the set affix shards...
undone dune
#

your helm is kind of interesting

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also 1600hp vs ubberoth is super scary

tropic dune
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yeah I can get higher HP i just lose more dex

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other helm/chest are t5 dex+t7 % max health

undone dune
#

you could just use HP idols tbh

tropic dune
#

alright i can swap to thopse

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those

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2.7k with idols

undone dune
#

yeah

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when you spam smokebomb in place how many stacks of smoke blades do you get to?

tropic dune
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7 for like .2 seconds

undone dune
#

hmmm

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those stacks are a huge part of the builds DPS

tropic dune
#

i put on belt/boots with 63% cdr total on them

undone dune
#

ohhh

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thats with CDR

tropic dune
#

is it supposed to be higher?

undone dune
#

no

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i was confused

slate mulch
undone dune
#

oh wait yo udont have cloud gatherer either

slate mulch
#

maybe ill slot in rainbows edge and gladiators oath

undone dune
#

thats why you are missing a stack

slate mulch
#

the 3 lps are dirt cheap and they both have crit multi

tropic dune
#

where is that at?

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oh the node at top

undone dune
#

its in divebomb but its optional

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generally you get it if you go for crimson shourd on the tree which you did

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but i really think CDR would help

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you should try without messing with talents

tropic dune
#

I tried again but dmg seems a bit lower

undone dune
#

your next dex breakpoints kind of just come from 1lp RRs as rare as that is

tropic dune
#

probably because i went down 2 dex breakpoints

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yeah ill try and farm some of those then

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idk how to get the relic LP as i cant even kill boss xD

undone dune
#

i mean you can just get good

tropic dune
#

someone helped me with a kill and was lucky to even get that one xD

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kek

undone dune
#

my first 10 ubberoth kills were all like 5+ min fights

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before i came here and learned the dagger build

gentle geyser
#

Yeah you can easily kill it in like 90 seconds kind of crazy

elder condor
#

Then what did it drop to

serene crane
slate mulch
#

Isn’t bleed chance on shuriken on helmet ?

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I was running t5 melee chance to dark shroud + t7 bleed per sword

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Unfortunately the other two stats are total garbage

elder condor
#

What belt do yall recommend for falconer? I’ve seen two different ones used

serene crane
serene crane
slate mulch
serene crane
vivid ice
#

The highest of ur scaling dmg type have 50% effectivity to a falcon

undone dune
#

that is not the best scaling node

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at all

serene crane
undone dune
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This thing gives 150% of your flat throwing damage to your bird

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all the damage comes from this

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because smoke bomb gives you a free 160 flat throwing damage

cosmic briar
#

Round 11

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Stupid c*nt

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Dear diary...

lime sun
#

Sorry noob question here, why does my Aerial Assault stops when I cast Falcon Strikes & vice versa? I thought I can have them all running at the same time?

cosmic briar
#

They can cansel animation if u asking about interrupt

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and u have only 1 parrot, how can he cast 3 different skill in 1 time

lime sun
lime sun
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Like how does that work

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If they keep on interrupting each other

cosmic briar
#

in reality u trading some damage for QoL

lime sun
cosmic briar
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i mean only one way to not interrupt anything is press buttons by your hand manually

lime sun
cosmic briar
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nothing in general

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ahk just spam buttons, while numlock is preeing it in

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so its like u tap 100500 times VS u hold button

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puttin*

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ok i think u got it

lime sun
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Ok got it thanks

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So the only reason for skilling up umbral dagger is for the falcon cast right?

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You don't need to manually cast it

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Since I see so many of these falconer builds with only 19 points allocated

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And have like 5 or so extra points

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Are they just different config between mapping vs bossing?

undone dune
#

yeah for bossing you want the daggers to stick in the ground as long as possible to scale extra divebomb damage

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when mapping you put those points into explosions

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becuase thats better aoe clear

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once you get to reasonably high coruption getting 5 levels in a skill takes like 1/5 an echo

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but I only really take the points out for ubberoth or chaining normal abberoth

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or maybe chaining timeline bosses with envies

lime sun
undone dune
#

both technically

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bladestorm is more for shadow daggers procs

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but i put both of those nodes back

lime sun
undone dune
#

what is your max skill level

lime sun
undone dune
#

do this

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the cold is just for random freezes

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which helps survive

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you can move those 3 points into bleed for a tiny bit of extra damage if you want

lime sun
undone dune
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you cant recall daggers thrown by the falcon

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even if you wanted to

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and even if you could to you cant recall daggers with explosvie blades allocated

lime sun
#

Ok got it thank you

lime sun
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 2,276, Regen: 42.2/s
▸ Mana: 201.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 133 Dex / 13 Int / 13 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 70% / 70% / 85% / 89% / 65% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 455
▸ Dodge Chance: 51% (1978)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,583)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

undone dune
#

yeah it has the chance to bleed points in

lime sun
#

I know the build itself use only exalted

undone dune
#

for boss damage

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those are very minor

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if you are focusing on echos you really dont need them

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for bossing its technically a dps increase

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so its in the guide

undone dune
#

what you linked is a good budget version to aim for and get started

lime sun
undone dune
#

shattered worlds

lime sun
#

Because I can't find it in the store

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No I mean before shattered

undone dune
#

not really

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you could use a 2lp Ucenui's

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it scales the umbral damage

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if you keep it converted

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but its really not a big deal

verbal pier
undone dune
#

actually you cant use the xbow mercenry relic!

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becuase it steals the neck buff

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so dont use that one

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but any other relic

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(it does look tempting becuase it has dex)

verbal pier
#

it come back to old build, falconer divebomb sync strike

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they nerfed falconer but give him amulet

lime sun
undone dune
#

on ucenui's?

lime sun
#

Ya

lime sun
undone dune
#

if you keep int and attunement equal (1=1) it gives you like 270% increased cold damage or soemthing

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which scales umbrals damage

lime sun
#

Ohh! Interesting

undone dune
#

but again this is a divebomb build that ends up being a small number

vivid ice
#

60% dodge, 120 dex bomb nuke play, I like its style, maybe umbral is more powerfull mech, 600 corrupt and its going well

undone dune
#

are those the boots with +4 smokebomb?

vivid ice
#

yea, muuuuch of dodge rate 🙂

undone dune
#

i never saw those used before

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thats cool

cosmic briar
vivid ice
#

max roll dodge 32%+ 252 dodging rate, ofc +32 CDR

cosmic briar
#

but u need find good stats on it

undone dune
#

wow what lagnuage is that

cosmic briar
#

polska

undone dune
#

its looks super krangled to me

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ahhh

vivid ice
undone dune
#

yours seems well rolled though max smoke bomb max dodge%

vivid ice
#

just farming trought Weavers Tree imprint

lime sun
#

Ok thanks @verbal pier @undone dune @cosmic briar , I'll study up on all the stated options

undone dune
#

exalted relic is hoenstly fine till uber

lime sun
undone dune
#

right

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and after uber you get shatterd world

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i would focus more on getting higher LP on weapons

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and helm

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much easier slots to upgrade

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and then run 1000s of cemetaries (not tombs) till the game gives you a decent neck

cosmic briar
undone dune
#

its not like sword or helm that you can get tons of from running troves

cosmic briar
#

only difference is u will get it even 2lp in couple of maps

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while u can imprint RR and farm whole day for get nothing

undone dune
#

well i guess helm is a dungeon drop so that cant be imprintd either

cosmic briar
#

yes

undone dune
#

but you can get so many swords from troves

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or daggers

cosmic briar
undone dune
#

but you cant put it in the imprint slot that drops from troves

cosmic briar
#

a way way way more common

lime sun
#

I do have red ring imprinted

cosmic briar
undone dune
#

agreed

cosmic briar
#

my uber was dead w/o RR

undone dune
#

t7 dex + flat throwing

lime sun
#

It's ok later when I'm back from work I'll check ouf ucenui's price

undone dune
#

doesn't even need to be opal

cosmic briar
#

even with only flat dex

cosmic briar
#

then just took 2lp ucenui

lime sun
#

Opal? Do you mean base?

cosmic briar
#

and dnt fck your brain with it

undone dune
#

yeah exalted rings

cosmic briar
#

it cost nothing

lime sun
#

Lol

vivid ice
#

yeaaa :DD

undone dune
#

redring is good but uber will 1 shot you anyway most of the time

lime sun
#

T7 dex t5?

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Health?

cosmic briar
#

t7dex t5 throw

lime sun
#

Ohh

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Ok

cosmic briar
#

for uber u dnt need life

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u need damage

undone dune
#

t7 dex -> t5 throw -> health

lime sun
#

Will do thanks

undone dune
#

opal is best but silver is also decent

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movespeed is never bad on that fight

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lots of dodging

cosmic briar
undone dune
#

you dont like movespeed?

cosmic briar
#

just dont need it in uber fight

undone dune
#

you do with only 120dex

lime sun
#

I honestly don't know if I can even get to 180 for red rings

cosmic briar
#

we open fight with smoke bomb, damaging him till explosion, spacebar out, smoke bomb to harb, smoke bomb to uberroth, if phase wasnt skip 1 more smoke bomb from triangle

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finished

lime sun
#

If I can't I'll probably just get phantom grips or something

cosmic briar
#

was ok with 160 with opals

undone dune
#

redring is not used in the build for the DR its used because no other ring can have 21 dex on it

cosmic briar
#

yep

undone dune
#

this build would use redring if it increased the damage you take

cosmic briar
#

and in this case u need not probably RR

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u need lp1 rr

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and trust me u dont wanna focus on it

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ESPECIALLY if u MG player

lime sun
#

Opal you mean exalted right?

undone dune
#

yeah

lime sun
#

Yeah I only have the base red ring

undone dune
#

opal is the base with 10% CDR and +2 all attributes

cosmic briar
#

i get my RRs as last upgrades

undone dune
#

so you just get an exalted ring

cosmic briar
#

before 4lp helmet or belt maybe xD

lime sun
cosmic briar
#

and i just bought clear rings and pull them to nemesis

undone dune
cosmic briar
undone dune
#

taht what we were saying earlier

lime sun
#

Oh I thought that's for ucenui lol

undone dune
#

its for ucenui too

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also gloves

cosmic briar
#

dex is your bread and butter

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since every 20dex scale u as hell

lime sun
undone dune
#

those are different slots

cosmic briar
#

xD i can say in last upgrades u will have more skillpoints than u need

undone dune
#

oh also for this thing, you really want throwing damage, physical pen, or crit multi

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any of those 3 stats t7 makes a really good neck

lime sun
#

So I don't need for example that +3 to falconry and stuff? Rip already bought those

undone dune
#

you dont need to get 2 of them

cosmic briar
undone dune
cosmic briar
#

because slamming lp2 razorfall is fcking shittiest thing i ever done

undone dune
#

so get a 1lp with +3 your 2lp or 3lp blood roost doens't matter

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just focus on the dex roll

lime sun
cosmic briar
#

xD

undone dune
#

my bloodroost that had t7 dex + throwing was putting me at 219 dex

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it was so sad

cosmic briar
#

this fcking boot already eat more than 30billion of gold

undone dune
#

i had to roll like 10 more pairs of gloves to get +1 dex

lime sun
#

Rip man

cosmic briar
undone dune
#

i love brew belt for HS

cosmic briar
#

the f then u got 219

undone dune
#

double t7 boots

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i dont link them because it would make you angry

cosmic briar
#

i am pretty sure ill be at ~230 with t7 on razorfall and cant hit 220 without it even with perfect dex on any gearpiece

undone dune
#

how would you ever hit 220 dex without jungle queen

cosmic briar
#

i cant

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before this shitty boots unslammed

undone dune
#

exactly

cosmic briar
#

but then they will, ill be able even with worst roll on gloves i think

#

sec

#

need to login back since i burned then miss with boots

#

funnyest thing is i really dont need that upgrade

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_>

undone dune
#

"need" is such a strong word when my boss killer kills the boss in 40 seconds

cosmic briar
#

ye

verbal pier
#

this the best item I have

cosmic briar
#

Fun fact - increased physical does nothing

verbal pier
undone dune
#

it increses shadow dagger damage

verbal pier
#

it increase ur minuon phys dmg%

cosmic briar
#

dk really, wasnt seen changes while tested with 2x 160% inc

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so i just added minion damage to belt

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(just for find that wasnt do any shit too)

undone dune
vivid ice
#

true damage coming for flat+ dex scaling 😉

verbal pier
#

from passive nodes

undone dune
#

i thought only the highest of your global increased melee/throw/bow got converted

vivid ice
#

also

verbal pier
#

50% throwing dmg convert to ur minion

#

wait a secx

#

I send ss

undone dune
#

but physical isn't throwing

cosmic briar
undone dune
#

the only thing that is global throwing damage is that one pair of unique gloves

cosmic briar
#

problem is this node or even dnt work or work in some weird wat

undone dune
#

not increased

cosmic briar
undone dune
#

right but thats not elemental

cosmic briar
#

but this shit doesnt work as this node say

undone dune
#

thats only global melee

cosmic briar
#

at anyway

verbal pier
vivid ice
#

Iv got only 65% increase minion damage and the falcons does milions damage, that I pass with gear % to minion dmg and put +16 dex

verbal pier
#

check with belt my physc minion dmg 253%

cosmic briar
#

well then i test damage on dummy

verbal pier
#

without belt its 203%

undone dune
#

why are the nodes so wordy if they dont even do what they say

cosmic briar
#

damage of shadow blades was x2 with inc

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but result in how fast it lost hp

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was a fcking same

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so...

undone dune
#

its so confusing

cosmic briar
#

its not the only iteraction on falconer wich works in weird way

undone dune
#

yeah

verbal pier
#

for dive bomb u cant check it on dummy cause his damage number on dummy absurd

cosmic briar
#

thats why Juse changing setup in every 1-2 video ahahah

undone dune
#

none of the nodes do what I think they do hte first 5 times i read them

cosmic briar
#

as example sometimes i just stop doing damage

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why? who the fck knows

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no reason but it is as it is

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another time he dying in 40 seconds, another time cant skip explosion

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why? who the fck knows x2

verbal pier
#

yeahh

undone dune
#

i feel like sometimes I push him to like 50% before he gains damage immunity from summoning a harbiner and sometimes its like 67%

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doing too much damage just confuses his script

cosmic briar
#

i talking not about that

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its ok

verbal pier
#

but divebomb now comeback to old build using sync strike, I use to upload it a days ago maybe someone youtube already test it again with min maxing gear

cosmic briar
#

i talking about moments then u somehow stop damaging him

undone dune
#

yeah

cosmic briar
#

not at immunity phase

undone dune
#

but he has scripted immunity it might just be kicking in at the wrong time

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cause it got really confused

cosmic briar
#

no

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because harbs doesnt have immunity

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but on them its works in same way

undone dune
#

huh

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maybe your shadow blades fell off

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cant do shit without shadow blades

cosmic briar
#

maybe, but they must not, arent they?

#

Xd

lime sun
#

Anyone knows if minion melee damage on weapon is inherited from this? Or it's even better since it's 100% rather than a small percentage

#

Just had a misslam

cosmic briar
#

-100 ascendant runes

slate cape
#

Does anyone have a Cinderstrike MELEE build using Falcon Fist Gloves?

serene crane
undone dune
#

thats not how that works

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you just want flat damage on the daggers, not %increased. phys is best but any element works

flint turret
lime sun
undone dune
#

yeah minion damage works

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but dont put it on weapons

lime sun
undone dune
#

the only slot you would realistically fit it is belt

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and its just not as good as CDR or throwing damage

lime sun
#

Because I target a t5 flat but didn't get it

undone dune
#

it will do something but not much

lime sun
undone dune
#

avian arsenal

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in the falconry tree

lime sun
#

Oh wow that's so good

lime sun
stiff sable
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Did they fix falconer dive bomb with controllers? Was thinking about trying it again

gentle basalt
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they fixed aerial assault

topaz agate
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Juse was saying the minion build is stronger for bossing.

But if we are running echos we should just use the default umbral blades hybrid falconry version?

vivid ice
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3500hp, 60% endurance and got 1 hit from Herold on 600c bruh

steady lark
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how's fire heartseeker right now?

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hows it performing

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just dropped a 3lp dragonsong

topaz agate
undone dune
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its about priorities

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this was for daggers

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flat is just better

topaz agate
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Yes correct. Flat elemental damage

undone dune
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phys is better

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but any type works

topaz agate
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For belt is CDR - Throwing - Minion / Physical damage right ?

steady lark
undone dune
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CDR > throwing >hbyrd health

undone dune
# steady lark ^

higher dps but not high enough to matter and it makes you super sqishy

steady lark
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ice is also squishty...

undone dune
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but ice can be screens away

topaz agate
undone dune
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not melee

topaz agate
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Trying to get good exalted belts is tough

undone dune
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but good luck getting that

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phys or minion are fine

topaz agate
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Yeah sometimes got to make do

gentle basalt
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with LL and shift + LL pot on shift

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can you just spam shift until you run out of pots

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pretty much

undone dune
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might need 100% potion convert too

gentle basalt
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ah true

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i wonder if thats useful for anything, probably not

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well its probs useful for shadow cascade builds as almost no cd shift would be pretty big dps increase compared to what they usually do right

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also uptime on the evade per dex shift node

serene crane
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Exsa with potion drank + Shift with Momentum = 65-80% movement speed = 65-80% increased damage, so... yeah 😄

gentle basalt
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speedy :d

serene crane
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nvm I counted that there already... 😄

gentle basalt
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that is a lot of ms, very nice that this game allows you to actually be fast (unlike some other games xd)

serene crane
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Not as speedy as that one build in PoE thats literally a speed hack, but yeah 😄

elder condor
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I swear juse has like 20 variants of this falconer rogue build lol

soft mauve
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will the Acid Flask's "poison pen per uncapped poison res" node be converted to cold penetration with cold/frostbite with the Vial of Volitile Ice offhand?

amber valley
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I droped idol with HS recurve chance and dmh with bows than my game froze and dced. Sadge

soft mauve
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also is there any way to scale Acid Flask base damage from something other than Throwing Damage affixes aside from Mourningfrost boots?

stiff sable
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What am i doing wrong with dive bomb falconer? I have all the pieces it says i need and still hitting hundreds of damage with bird. I have not rolled the extra perks on the uniques yet because wanted to test it out first. But still hundreds only???? no way

dusky schooner
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testing in s0 and s1 had flat damage behind other damage stats, and talon knives got halved. I don't see how flat is coming out ahead after a nerf

undone dune
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because avian arsenal was untouched and still gives 150% of flat damage mods

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also minion damage is addative with dex bonus

flint turret
undone dune
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which is super high because we have like 220

dusky schooner
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ok on paper, but that assumes you have very little throwing damage

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and you can only proc arsenal with sync strike for melee

undone dune
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no

dusky schooner
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?

undone dune
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avian arsenal is procced by umbral blades

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which are thrown for you by AA

flint turret
dusky schooner
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yes which moves your THROWING damage

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not your melee

undone dune
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then it gets procced by shadow daggers

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which is melee

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which are procced by umbral blades

flint turret
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I can't bro this falconers

undone dune
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and at 200 dex you are hitting 5 times with shadow blades every AA

dusky schooner
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ill ask another question but

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do you really think you can impact your mark getting hit by a proc over a dagger that comes out immediately after?

flint turret
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Have no idea what they are doing and why

dusky schooner
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they really have no idea

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read skill, dont test skill, think skill works, change build a day later

undone dune
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but like

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test it

flint turret
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At least they know how to but t7 flat lightning/fire daggers for 1.5b

dusky schooner
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and you'd still have to have more melee than throwing

undone dune
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make a dagger with minion damage and show me a crit greater than 1.2 billion

dusky schooner
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kezic

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ive been playing sync strike dive bomb since s0

undone dune
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but you can have 5 stacks of throwing and 5 stacks of melee avian arsenal

dusky schooner
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wait

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hold on

undone dune
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as long as your bird is hitting enough

dusky schooner
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how the f are you proccing shadow daggers

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with sync strike lmao

undone dune
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umbral blades

dusky schooner
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i just realized how dumb this question is

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you despec umbral

undone dune
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ohh i dont

dusky schooner
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when you use sync strike

undone dune
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i dont know how Juse did it

dusky schooner
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lmao no wonder this conversation got so weird to me

undone dune
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he probably has shadow daggers in synch strike

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but taht doens't sound like enough procs

dusky schooner
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and, this would be the first time someone has ever said you can have 5 stacks of melee and 5 stacks of throwing