#🔪┃rogue
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set up your loot filter to recolor uniques your after
yeah the only ring i hihglight white like that is RR that screenshot scaredme
congrats on the rune of weaving
23 weavers will ring and a lp3 orians sun seal
i use a bright yellow for 3lps because I hide all rares anyway
save white for the real chase stuff
pretty nice rolls even without lp
red ring can drop anywhere or do i need to be in age of winter
anywhere
is Falcon Fists any good?
nope
Anywhere, but best to try in age of winter unique and ring/set echo node.
Or u can try RoA route
falcon fists is a very poorly thought out item, who in their right mind is going unarmed?
chads
what other support does it have besides that item 😛 its kinda cool idea if you could make it work. just does not make any sense at all
like in poe, they have items that buff you for being unarmed, but its a whole set of things not just one item
my best build in poe was unarmed build. Oh ritual how i missed you
randomly stuck when you use smoke bomb is really anoyingh
goodness me, i asked my 6 year son to help me click the seal cache button and he got this. probably best slam this entire season
hell yeah
what the hell is the odds to hit throw dmg on tht stupid necklace
i swear ive been at this for days now
phys pen or crit multi also work
yep, since tis necklace transact stats to falcon
throwing is just the best, but not only option
ex. if u hit pen+multi it can ever be better than standalone throwing
is row or dragonsong stronger for heartseeker build
HS is so fun to play... hope this gets a buff in the future. maybe remove the CD of the frenzy hit. Or keep the CD but add frenzy effect to it.
song stronger, row safer.
you can farm runes instead and just gamble your T7s
tru
only got 3 redemptions left... lame
guess ill just do a bunch of chest prophecies in the meantime
try 'tree for runes' here
i askd about that couple of days ago, and result was pretty good
only pain in ass are weaver runes
it's how I did my erasing strike just filtered Body>Exalted> has at least 2 affixes HP%, +HP, Mana, %mana. then redemption and havoc. With the filter at least you have 2 usefule affixes regardless.
wait you are gambling for HS levels with redemptions not havocs?
thats an interesting play
No, what I meant is you have a chance of getting armors you can either just redemption or havoc.
yeah but gumbircules said he is almost out of redemptions
seems like a strange way to get the mod you want
that's why I suggested rune farming instead then just pick up T7 exalt rogue armors.
I only ever use those on items with 2 or 3 random/useless exalted mods at once
i guess ur right havoc would def be more efficient
ill look into it later im still only 75 on this guy so i still got time before i can run null
I'd say either start (armor farming or rune farming) would work with HS since it's a monster for farming favor. I just prefer the runes since it also opens up forging other gear instead of one specific piece.
very random question but for sapping strikes (passive that when you use a skill that costs 0 mana and hit an enemy gain health and mana) do I have to directly use the skill and does it count cost reductions?
aka if I use a skill that has been reduced to cost 0 mana does that count
how to farm this
also whats a good falconer build i have been meaning to test it
to do uber
uber
ooo
umbral blades falconer ez uber kill
search for Juse in youtube.
idm i just farmed normal abberoth like 30 times
nope. I killed uber with just 1LP stuff. it's just too OP
ooo
yeah its pretty gross
bro this guy is in a causal 3500
corruption
tf
Shadow Daggers Umbral Blades + Dive Bomb Falconer this right?
yuh
it's so strong for bossing. My falconer keeps dying at 800 corruption but kills uberoth before he can finish his transition to the last phase.
oh damn
yeah mapping at that high corruption everything pretty much 1 shots you but you just gotta 1 shot them first
also saw someone killed uberoth with 140 dex when the guide says to aim for 200 dex 
this part of the guide is out of date
look what they did to my boy
that breakpoint was for triggering 5 shadow daggers procs
but we no longer care about shadow daggers damage
its all divebomb
but the shadow divebomb damage relies on daggers on the floor.
shadow daggers only job is to trigger melee stun chance from weapon
so more daggers is still big damage
yeah but 200 isn't a breakpoint now
you just want as much as possible (incrimenting in breakpoints of 20)
200 is a good breakpoint to aim for because its the last one you can hit without a 2lp razorfall
although doing that might require a shattered worlds
ooohhh.. how about falcon fists then for more flat melee damage instead of blood roost?
the node only cares about flat damage on weapons
I tried it with zerrick's and that does have some benefit because it adds throwing but it wasn't enough to give up 2 slots
cinder strike it is then
that wouldn't work
the +22 mele fire isn't damage specific stat from your weapon
its from your gloves
oh "from both your weapons" 
yeah
reading is really hard and all of the falcon nodes are so wordy
but i figured that one out
Folks, what's the minimal + skill required on the valor bow to start playing as a falconer?
seems like 220 is cap breakpoint now
even with perfected gear u cant hit 240. Well, u can with bow, but i think daggers will be better at end
3/3/3 1lp is ok for start
got 4/1/2 😦
Min is like 4/2/3 but with 1lp so I got started with that, plus razorfall or what it name was
for umbral facloner, you don't want any physical damage at all?
Is Umbral Blades Falconer a viable build with a controller? i know a lot of the traversal skills SUCK on controller
getting 220 dex is like a wet dream come true in COF
one day
one day ill get my 1 lp red ring
Weird planner ngl, for both offence and defence. Lowlife without almost any ward retention and the same amount of crit multi as phys% increase almost
dont you need 2?
yes, but at the moment i have 0 LP red rings
use crab rings with 1lp dex
what is a crab ring?
its budget red ring
what is a crab ring?!
for the ward was mostly looking at this that is also fairly low ward retention investment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt_3UMAHels and doesnt have the shadow ward stuff so i think its enough, but i was considering somnia instead of snowblind there as well for a bit more retention and stun
and inc and crit multi have exactly same diminishing returns so not overinvesting in both should be correct
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ow4PwlkA Burning Daggers?
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (27) / Marksman (55) / Falconer (11)
▸ Health: 1,849, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 123.01, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 78 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 65% / 65% / 64% / 76% / 65% / 82%
▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 647
▸ Dodge Chance: 39% (1368)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,991)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 92%
even though i adjusted it since and now it has more flat and less both inc and crit multi
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (41) / Bladedancer (72)
▸ Health: 1,310, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 146.82, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 62%, Regen: 52/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 30 Dex / 11 Int / 11 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 53% / 83% / 53% / 59% / 86% / 76% / 79%
▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 262
▸ Dodge Chance: 77% (5760)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,176)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 131%
Have you calculated your stable ward? At the glance it seems way too low
While they both do, phys% rolls on gear are x2.5 of crit multi, so you always want to have total phys% AT LEAST double your crit multi
Still too much multi too low phys%
And while flat is important, keep in mind that you are getting 160 flat from a smoke bomb
So for bossing you want phys% as high as possible instead of flat
3700 which sounds fine when i have like 1k ward bursts + automated pot
At 3700 if say it's barely worth going ll
well no that sounds like just something you end up with, it doesnt make phys twice as valuable just twice as easy to get
but im getting 117 crit mult from gloves and 80 from tree
so few big crit mult sources
it is because of bladedancer node
I'm not saying phys is twice as valuable, they are equal in terms of damage amp. But if you have 400 multi and 400 phys Increse, and you can add another t7 affix, it will be either 210 phys% or 88% crit multi. And 210% will be 2.3 times better to add as an affix
Bd node barely compensated for the absence of endurance, not to mention you lose all leech
ah i see what you mean, sure, but i am already grabbing those phys affixes everywhere except weapons
And you will also have hp gain on shadow creation which will mess up your ward even more
ahhhh this okay got it
well i get 270 ward per shadow instead, so that is 1.3k ward from every sync strike and 270/s in smoke bomb
You also getting 60 hp on shadow creation
🦀
With 270 ward on shadow creation it will be enough maybe tho
yea that part is unfortunate but i cant rly avoid it
Dunno, I don't like how this kind of investment cuts your damage only to add mana sustain
And loosing leech kinda hurts too
Also you can't use siphon ring which cuts damage even more
as rogue you kinda want wall of nothing instead of exsang
i could use siphon i would just swap to peak, but i did not wanted to
as the damage gain from it is fine but not that big
to have like 50% dr on your ward
i mean i would never use chains even if i was life setup
I just don't see a reason to do low life sd tbh, it's kinda anti-synergystic outside of mana sustain
skipping brewmaster for it sounds questionable
How beautiful it would be to have helmet with t7 dex+t7 ward; body with t7 +LM and t7 ward... 😦
Dunno, for me it's definitely not. Usually you don't find an easy way of getting 15% more damage from a single unique even without any slams
Only lirakas probably can do the same
well you are rogue, damage is all you are getting in first place, and its even harder to find items that almost double your ehp on rogues
Sadly its way easier to find 3LP Exsa than 2LP Wall... 😄
the endurance is too big
Ehp is easy to get on rogue tbh, but having no sustain with 3700 ward on melee looks like a death sentence
270 ward per shadow is great but you can't compare it to tenth of thousands leeched per second
i mean getting 1.3k ward every time i press sync strike plus perma pots from chaps is not no sustain
Yeah they are super nice
also seems like 2 +melee and mele% idols are better than multi and shred effect
but hard to say
Yeah, but you are loosing half of your damage for that kind of sustain, if not more
You sacrifice almost all of penetration with shadow daggers and doom
I mean... It's definitely not a terrible idea
But I don't really see a reason to
Lowlife looks much better on something like cascade or shuriken
I run two of those and Id say its quite nice... even for the SD LM you can slap those in with even extra %phys pen and either +melee/+throw; it melts Aberroth super fast too 😄
i have 4 of those now
well shuriken does less damage than shadow daggers pretty sure so if it looks good on shuriken this should be better
was using 2 of those and 2 multi+shred but changed to 4
even if i lose some pen on shadow daggers
Bro
and didnt notice dmg going down so idk
I might need to look for some 2x2 idol; I think it can get crit multi/shred effect, could be nice... also I have to drop the shred in BD passives, I can get like 200shred stracks which is quite way too much I guess? 😄
yea i dropped them
Bit too much? 150 is okay imo
if you have shred effect you need even less
Even less if you are not phys
with 1 big idol giving 70% or so i think around 70 or so it caps more or less
Idk, I wouldnt really be sure about that 🤔
well its like 6 shuriken hits per second looking at the vid of their gameplay, which is 250 * 6 DE
let me check how many shadow dagger procs this has per second
2 stacks per second from smoke bomb shadows, 3 stacks per second from cacophony, 4 stacks per second from sync strike and 1 stack per second from shadow cascade I think?
I'll have to update the gear on SD LM and see how it goes... throw away Lirakas, slap t7 hybrid Ravs on, enchanted idols, new 2LP Titan with both +LM and SD pen... sounds like a good cooking time
https://youtu.be/T4q_dtOltcg?si=8d9O4yOgJLE3Vf7s
Look at the kill time and how bad his gear is
oh actually accidentally only counted half for everything but smoke bomb, so should be 2 stacks/s smoke bomb, 3 stacks/s cacophony, 8 stacks/s sync strike, 2 stacks/s shadow cascade
plus you get both melee and throw part from tree and smoke bomb
I like how spammy it is 😄 oh I forgot he runs Strands belt aswell... I guess I could slam mine too
so its 3.75 shadow dagger procs/s, 750% DE
on top of shadow cascade also dealing good damage here as outside of the shadow dagger pen it mostly scales the same
I was playing sd since 0.9, and believe me, it's damage is not that great you think it is
i mean based on what i just calcualted it looks pretty good to me
even though i thought the daggers will do even more than this, but it looks like shadow cascade will be more than half of the damage here instead
so maybe i should use peak to cap the crit for it, i think atm its only at like 75%
hey can someone explain why people use this quiver on balista builds? I dont rly get it
it just doesnt have almost any "more" multipliers outside of 50% on passive and penetration with shadow daggers, while both cascade and shurikens got a ton of more multies in their trees
best way to farm Wall of Nothing
SD is a strong tool for sure, but its not the ultimate solution
envys on harton
you can also spam abby, it will have lower droprate but you can also get null or nihilis
fall of empire
yep
cannot do aby yet
I'd say for SD you just go all-in with helmet and body affix and Large idols, no? 😄
well as i said shadow cascade scales the same and im already using it anyway as its part of the build regardless
i dont see how its the same but whatever
well mostly the same if i cap the crit :d
its definetly not, the tree for cascade is completly different for sd and cascade build
and for cascade you want to scale it with attack speed which is never the case for sd
and you want as many + skills for cascade which is also not the case for sd where they are mostly useless
btw do you know If the crit multi at the bottom of Elecoe is just for the potion or also your skills? 🤔 also, tf is that difference between 3LP and 4LP chance? 
its global crit multi
mine is already pretty similar just missing the AS node
but yea i guess i could focus more on shadow cascade instead
Huge... kinda
I'll feed the turtle with like 51 1LP/2LP Elecoes and hopefully get some 3LP
and it would do more damage than now
yeah, and at the same time you are not getting the most important node for sd
and having 90 flat throwing damage cascade doesnt really can do much
uh are you sure
i dont think i want something that requires hitting 4 enemies
yes i am sure
you can hit the same enemy 4 times with cascade from shadows
was just gonna ask that, i guess its easy to test and confirm as well
as none of the shadow cascade setups i looked at used it
neiter does this one
oh i see lul
cascade is already point starved to afford it if its the main source of damage
Snapshotted cascade already sounds good on its own there 😄
because cascade IS good, its just SD is easier to start with and much more straight-forward
and its very misleading from the start about its scaling into the late game
because you get 160 flat just from the smoke bomb at ~lvl 40 into the game
Btw any thoughts on the belt I should aim for for the low life? 🤔 Uleros is chill easy to get, but with Elecoe/Strands I'd have to get few Stout idols for the potion conversion, since I kinda want cooldown reduction I'd say 😄
if you already have the idols why not use jungle queen
Right, I forgot about Queen...
😭 I got 4LP, so I could technically try to look for something with t7 cdr and at least one t6...
All the good luck to you 😄
oh also with the Queen... I drink potion = get some big %dodge = more crit multi from Decoy 
oh yea big D
I'd say elecoe+convert it to ward for 2-3k ward on potion use
Ye would be also pretty big for some survival... could theoretically get both tbh 😄 I guess t7 cdr, t5 pot convert, t5 hybrid... ideally... 4LP Elecoe is probably not happening soon 
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0Nr0y3o ok adjusted it to focus more on shadow cascade, i guess it makes more sense
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (41) / Bladedancer (72)
▸ Health: 1,482, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 163.78, Regen: 9.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 78%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 34 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 54% / 54% / 54% / 59% / 86% / 80% / 83%
▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 296
▸ Dodge Chance: 77% (5799)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,162)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 131%
Do you actually want Emergency Flask on Shift with LL? 🤔
It doesnt have %chance to find potions tho
you get more pots the more pots you have missing
Ahhh, thats cool to know 
i hate you 😢
you can check dreads throwing cascade guide too if you havent seen it
Also I don't think ward is any good on rogue for Uber Abby(unless falconer burst)
You just can't sustain it enough
You need thousands of heals per second
i did not, do you have a link? as i cant find it
Ye the only issu would be overhealing some crap on the ground, its just sad tbh
Last phase with beams is impossible unless super leech of health on hit
thanks
You will have to stay in 2-3pools while being hit by 2-3 beams at a time
Because Abby doesn't care about you when he decides to slam
Pools hit for like 200-250+ per second, beams maybe like 500? 700?
Exactly what Im not looking forward to If I even get there 
I think beams were hitting me for like 300-370
idk with 2xRR or already with Julras
Yeah but they tick faster than once per second
I'd say rrs
20 Dr is big
I think it's possible without Dr from rrs or ravs or null if you have leech, but I only had life on hit so I tried to mitigate as much as I could
Ye I can swap a lot of stuff around; + hopefully new belts soon... even my current 3LP Ulerus is kinda crap with mana regen instead of... anything else 😄
And it also saved me from ground burn or succ multiple times
Isnt the fire aoe ok tho? I dont remember it doing any big damage, like 70tics?
It's weird
Sometimes I stand in it just fine
And rarely the death log pops up with something like "overheated black hole 2.5k"
I'd say usually you stand in it
Dunno how it's causing that damage sometimes
Blue aoe is deadly tho, the vortex dot hits hard
And balls itself too
Also you need good source of cleance if you want the fight to be easier at the last phase
Because I had it only on smoke and I was peaking 45 stacks of Abby frailty
Which is.... Not optimal to say the least
if it had less health on hit it would have been impossible for my build i think
that looks brutal... I guess 4LP Queen with pot cleanse, pot convert, hybrid life and cdr it is then... 😄
yeah at that point i just stand there in pools, beams, rotating blade, and what not, just shoot and pray while abby spins his thing
and if he decides to do a succ right after the spin, while you still running to the outside the chances you are dead are pretty high
and yeah i was running out of potions in the last phase even with a brewmaster
that shit saved my life constantly. heal+endu thresh is huge
its possible to run through big dots while gulping it
Overhealing some of the crap there will probably the worst... If I get straight up one-tapped by something that is what it is 😄 but getting perma drained by lasers and pools without any way to overheal that with ward, thats just rip
But again, will see when I even get there
Yeah you just need to dodge one-shots but you have no choice but to out sustain dots
If you can't sustain it you are dead
Everything before last phase is a skill check where you can just evade everything, spread pools on the outside, not stand in beams, etc, but the last phase adds a sustain check where you can no longer avoid those things
Not a big fan of that tbh 😄 but If I manage to get to 16%, he is dead to culling from LM
Or I do big gamer move with weapon swap to Last Laugh with 20%
and finish Uberroth with decoy explosion 
Last 16 doesnt matter. When last phase starts he will be at around 25%, then he heals up to 80, then you drop him to 20%, he gets 100% ward, and then you burn the ward and the remaining 20%
So at the last phase you basically need to do 100-0 twice
how are you guys farming omnis?
We are doing it by farming superior omnis-nihilis
Biting through the ward is painful ngl
what?
nihilis better then omnis?
for hs
i have a 1lp nihilis
For sure
+1 skill over omnis, mana Regen, frenzy on demand, all res, what more do you need
Because I run out of mana without it?
Black arrows consume a lot of mana, smoke costs mana too
Yeah I posted it somewhere above near the Uber Abby hs video
Black arrows consume 10 mana each, can gain back up to 2-8 mana, but there are no free points to do 8
you dont have to use black arrow tho, but i think they are good
Would low life LM have a lower damage ceiling due to losing perfection node benefits?
Thinking of doing a BBOC build like Hachinado but low life for mana regen
you still get perfection stacks they just stack slower
finally killed ubberoth for the first time it took me so long 😭
All you need is like 4 perfection stacks, you wont really stack more than that... maaaybe like 5 or 6, but not too needed since you kinda need to wait for LM burst, can only get 1 Perfection instead of 2 since you wont be full life and cant use Shift with melee node since you want Coated Blades which would make Shift cost a ton of mana 
So low life might work better with the mana regen? Since perfection is negligible
is the dive bomb bug not proccing dusk shroud fixed?
Yeah you get ton of mana with Shift + I run umbral blades that give you extra mana back when you recall blades with Shift, on top of that you want t6-t7 LM on body armor which is another 40-60% mana efficiency with LM... I dont use sync. strike as Hachadino does so I dont worry about mana regen at all
You can play Life version and be just fine either way
https://youtu.be/8lJQSvrLCf4?si=etxOBv18OiwunWpB
Are there any changes I would need to make to this build to bring it up to date in the current season?
trying to figure out what would give me sufficient EHP for uber
man why are 3lp blades always such shit stats
mfer also wants golcap for his krangled ass double 2% pen sword
Oof, now thats insanely bad 
Cant turtle it, cant even reroll it, worse than 1LP... 💀
Just keep selling all the gear for bot falconers and you'll be full at gold sonn enough 😄
Pls say it wasn't a falconer
That's like the worst sword rolls I have ever seen
it was, and im still struggling =/
would appreciate some tips cause im getting beaten up
dont get hit
and if you are going to get hit
have a silver veil
except the bowling hall
that one is a 1 tap anyway
🤖
does cooldown recovery significantly help the build? I don't have any right now sadly
wish I could spam areil assualt a bit more
anyone wanna help me kill aberoth 2-3 time ? xD
Only host gets loot
Why am I always dying with active silver shroud stacks
DoT ?
No
In map ? or Uber fight ?
Echos
best affixes for peak of the mountain 4lp ? Dex bow dmg cold res hybrid life?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0N5GJJo next steps in improving this build?
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (35) / Bladedancer (59) / Marksman (16) / Falconer (1)
▸ Health: 1,903, Regen: 26.72/s
▸ Mana: 258.5, Regen: 20.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 116/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 92 Dex / 10 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 59% / 91% / 69% / 79% / 145% / 55%
▸ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 483
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (0)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (728)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 56%
16dex sounds like way better pick...? 😄
ye and ignore the crit strike to get cold res that is cold pen for me
I'm ngl I feel like my es kinda shits on umbral falconer, idk with less gear even, it's a much smoother time with bonks, they die quicker lol
My logic being more recurve more health gain on hit
i like recurve, its better clear, better healing
While more damage contributes nothing to survivability
Nha i don't think recurve is good in my case, i prefer more damage on hit than recurve
but also im doing frostbite so there isnt much competition for me on helmet anyway
Dex, Heatlh %
Cold res or Phys res
Last prefix idk OR Recurve Or Bow dmg Or Bow elemental damage
Also depends on ucenui, if you use it or not. And if you match int or not. If you match int that's already 400% cold damage from a single relic, adding 60 to it is not that significant
I've uceni but i've 13 int and 28 attunement
Rip 240% cold damage
The issue is that to put them equale i need a t7 int , that would miss a t7 dex
i think is more worth t7 dex
For monos maybe, for bosses I would argue
Tbh I wanted to match int with tundra helm that would also allow hs to leech, but I got neither 2lp row that didn't miss a slam, and I didn't even started to farm tundra because I don't have row to match int anyway
So this plan failed spectacularly by me being unable to slam crit multi as a second affix on a row in a week of farming row
Huge
Have a video?

Anyway gj
Too bad no video, wanted to see the time difference
Do you have a snapshot of a planner at least?
Plus one of the 50 MMs or whatever to beat an uber
I should change bow, remove the reign of winter for bossing
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)
▸ Health: 5,046, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,248.18, Regen: 15.2/s
▸ Attributes: 70 Str / 0 Dex / 0 Int / 8 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 80% / 81% / 76% / 92% / 74% / 75%
▸ Endurance: 74%, Threshold: 1,874
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,218)
You don't have to if you have 2lp row tbh. Gathering fury matches the damage of 1lp row more or less, it's just faster and you get more life on hit
BRuuuuuuuuu void knight abuser
Broooooo noooo
Cheating 😦
Not like this
idk how people even use that helmet, i tried it for a bit but it eats so much mana, do you just not use evade with it and thats it?
I'm used to not having evade with crab ring tbh
ok sooo for bossing i switch to gathering fury bow, kk
Fighting Uber with it might be tricky tho
i mean gathering fury 4lp is "cheap" too
3lp is 30k, the basic bow cost more ahha
It's up to 72
yea i guess wiht crab ring might be ok, im just using the other one atm that also lets me keep evade
as otherwise tundra has basically perfect stats but the mana is brutal
Just need the knowledge of the goods build offmeta
Not necessarily, row 2lp might be still better I'm not sure. I just wanted as much attack speed as possible to have huge life on hit
That's the only thing that kept me alive in the last Uber phase
doesnt the icicles crit also, and the health on crit is global so you probs wouldnt even lose that much life on hit
Thats normal, but you can't stop attacking. If you do you die to dot
@spice condor heyo sorry for the ping, but smh why is my message blocked by the server...? 😄
from row
Half of them is global. Draining arrows work only on bow attacks. And icicle is only up to 28% chance to proc
On umbral falconer did yall get a ton of cooldown recovery?
let's try
Yep, pretty much. I don't want to climb corr. I don't feel like hs is not designed to clear well over 1k. I will be able to survive more or less easily to 1.5 but it doesn't make much sense
wanna see toltip
gathering fury for bosses?
Looks decent except t6 crit
Haven't played much rogue, are there any poison builds where you ignite poise clouds or anything?
Reign tooltip: 98329
Gathering tooltip: 71085
ye i know, just bought cheapest base to try
You can't compare the tooltip really
ye coz gatherin just buffs
At least attack something to stack the ucenui and attack speed
gathering damage ramps overtime
arena i think
Arena
Hi
Your row is pretty great I wouldn't bother with fury tbh
t7 hybrid crit with t7 bow speed would look pretty juicy on G.Fury 😄
Only flat rolls are kinda low but whatever
which is better?
It's an option, not always the best one
144k tooltip vs dummies with gathering
159 with Reign
i was using it for ahwile but just stick to my 3 lp reign now
but my reign has +1 tier of affixes compared to the gathering soo they are pretty same
Except you get more life on hit
Fury = no need to worry about balancing int+attu with Ucenui
ye but still the tooltip should consieder the uceni buff
"should"
btw i've to test underboss while moving
but numbers are pretty similar
I tested it on regular Abby and 1.5lp row(with shred) was pretty close to 3lp fury
It was showing almost the same kill time which went back and forth a bit
The only big difference is attack speed
im keeping a track on this homie, what do you think can his build do uber abby as a blade dancer?= https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/wander98/character/wanderDL-BD
It's both good and bad. It slows your stutter step movement but provides more life on hit
...also Fury goes better to the lightning suppoer armor set than RoW... so, Fury is obvious winner
can Razorfall boots only drop in spirits of fire Monolith?
none, everywhere
Do you really need that 6% crit?
the last point in decimating spike? i got it for crit multi O_o
Dancing Strikes sound like a self-torture for Uberroth ngl
10% multi for a point doesn't sound like a good investment
Is the maxroll heart seeker guide any good or it's complete crap?
Depend do u play Cof or Mg ?
For Mg I advice do few change to keep the build "cheaper" in early, if u are Cof follow the cold version
can u share your Hs build?
i just found out
with blessing, and max roll two red rings and max roll nihilis you get exactly 75% res
that makes me kinda wet ngl
Numbers go brrr
I have like 20 planners for it, for what exactly do you want to see

Do u have a version similar to mine? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Davyray/character/Davyray_Heartseeker
I wanna be tanky enough to tank 1 hit and return full hp , rest full damage.
Maybe u have a better skill tree , actually i scale both dex and overcapped cold res
Except you don't need unless you are using null. You would want to use hp/eleres idols most of thhe time, you get necro and poison from vitality, so the only 2 relevant res are void and phys
don't ruin my fantasies >:(
Now throw in t7 48% all resist while channel, put on Null with channeled flurry
I thnik that sounds like a plan
btw u have to waste the blessing to get what cold res? 😦
No way, cold shred one love
On math with the 2 points of overcapped cold res , it's better cold res
Coz on bosses shred work at 60% of value
i wasnt using overcapping cold res, there is simply no budget affix
if you are not using it also with shackles for ward sustain
is increased throwing physical damage affix good for a falconer?
btw can u share one of those planner? Q_Q @flint turret
yeah this looks a lot like my uber setup
check my planner and video somewhere above
oook
never heard anyone talk about that affix before
and some ward on shadow creation\elemental arrows
check if juse use it
and you wont be anywhere near to tank some of the hits. to tank a mace jump hit or 3 sector hit you would need 3.5k+ hp and vise
i couldnt do it with 3k and ravs
i had to evade them always
Anchor of Oblivion that one? O_O
yes
soo u are saying me that in my build it's better the Wall of Nothing than the Null portent?
depends on what you wanna do with it
my 2° task is to kill uber abby with this build
phase for bossing, i see
any crit avoidance?
normal hit onetap soo no need i think
There aren't wall of nothing 3 lp >_>
Surprisingly 😄
Its rare af even for CoF
I'm COF. Okay may try the cold version then
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BMk0wJ4A something like this for monos
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1
Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (7) / Marksman (69) / Falconer (10)
▸ Health: 2,109, Regen: 32.64/s
▸ Mana: 171.19, Regen: 12.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 73/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 99 Dex / 13 Int / 25 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 58% / 67% / 28% / 71% / 66% / 111%
▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,028
▸ Dodge Chance: 57% (2348)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,526)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 14%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%
wait there are low Wall of nothing too
ward gained on shadow creation? O_O
phase for monos, not bossing
you dont want to get hit by a boss bro
yep
seems low dmg Xd but tanky af
that was my initial point
this
I usually play flashy build with 0 ehp and HH on poe, ahahah
okok i see your point xd
feel free to adjust it into damage as you see fit
its just all the defensive options on hs are so good i cant just not use them kekw
its much more tankier than it needs to be prob
this should rly use brewmaster
ye i copy it, i like the idea and i can sell my 2lp null before brake it
especially with wall of nothing
yeah brew is great, i had a planner for it too
Elecoe give shitons of dps
brew+ucenui+match int with tundra but its much trickier
you can get the dps elsewhere but you cant get the brewmaster surviavbility easily elsewhere
for uber brew is awesome, thats true, but that wasnt an uber setup
it mostly just gives you bunch of extra healing on top, but brewmaster also gives you that + more pot gen
in that ward setup he will rarely dip into hp at all
@flint turret lmao 1st reroll and maxxed out t7 hybrid life 
wait
wellit also gives you more ward decay threshold with wall of nothing
you first havoc THEN refine?
No I already found it like this
ah
just refined
if you dont drink it no )
yea, and the buff stacks
I mean I could try getting life=>ward, t5 str=>dex, chaos for different suffix, mirror it 😄
so you can have at least 2 instances of it going easily most of the time
im not a fan of drinking potions on interval while running monos tbh
but why not if you do
can be annoying but its not like HS builds have very intensive gameplay so i think its fine
its a lot worse on some other stuff, like when i was doing it on lich :d
im a simple man, if i can afford to not use extra actions that are not really required id prefer not to
but thats just me, im not denying that either brew is super good or its a valid tactic
i'm in the trip of planning again
Did any of yall do a macro for umbral falc
if you wand to blow your mind even more, try equipping soulgambler amulet, shoot a dummy and watch your ward
its insane
i spammed pathfinder in poe for actual years basically so when i see that i can spam pots and its op i do it without hesitation ;d
but i would use it with an abby relic probably for flat crit
nooo i prefer not, u areldy changed my plans ahha
i just read those nodes and they are mindblowing but i losed a lot of dex xd
also ward on freeze is super good too with shackles and troaka
Soo there are more way to gain ward, i don't rlly like those mods Xd
yeah i used this too but without the top 8
free 45 ward per second for 4 points sounds decent already
You rogues disgust me
im grabbing all of the elemental arrow stuff pretty much
came asking for falconer macro, and YOU are disgusted by US ethical mm hs players? mkay 
Sorry, but falconer mains wake up in about 7 hours 😄
at least thats what I kinda observed in the last 2 weeks
it doesnt go well with attack speed. if its low, its fine, but the more you get the worse it becomes
and you usually want it to be high
yea i grabbed it before i had t7 as affixes on my stuff, but there isnt rly better points than those 6 to grab for me anyway
you are usually shooting 3to4 hs per second, so you can easily divide those numbers on elemental arrows by 3
its not terrible but not greeat either
Lmao
dex?
true i guess i can grab dex from falconer
im awake now thank you very much just at work for 5 more hours
i was also thinking about putting 1 point into coated blades
i dont see how you gonna sustain 30+ mana drain per second
without black arrows maybe its possible?
needs testing
yea i dont use black arrows so i basically have no mana spending atm
seems like to much bother gor 10% more damage
will see if it works out of box with punctures in between, as 10% more damage is quite a bit
otherwise i just click more dex or the falconer movespeed node
for more movespeed
if you gonna use punctures to gain mana back it defeats the purpose of getting more damage on hs
because those punctures could have been hs
well i need to use the punctures anyway as im frostbite
yea i can sustain the mana easily looks like
even without throwing much punctures
Aw man, I logged in the SD LM black blade and it feels so much slower than the lighting one 😄 1500c clearing is speedy, but the bosses... oof 😄
I got to the first harb the last time Ive tried it, but still... 😄 but the fact I can spam LM and leech quite a lot is not bad at all... + I could sacrifice SD pen from body armor for even more life... sitting at nearly 2.6k with Ravs
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj4wEWQ would a build like this work? 👉 👈
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (36) / Bladedancer (77)
▸ Health: 2,241, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 213.6, Regen: 16.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 129 Dex / 13 Int / 13 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 64% / 64% / 64% / 64% / 85% / 90%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 528
▸ Dodge Chance: 65% (3130)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (625)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
Hi, im playing rogue and im getting 1 tapped after reaching empowered... do i try to build resistance or do i build into dorge chance to survive?
you build into dmg tbh
oh
i guess thats a melee cascade? it does work well indeed, but itemiazation looks strange
yea thats because i made it myself lmao
what uniques or items are the go for on this build?
tongue+reen maybe?
body\belt\boots are weird too but there are different options
also peak means no leech
sustain will be hard
Biiig crit multi goes brrrr
hm i guess it gets more more multi when you stack
didnt wanted to read the text first
so long
😭
Lazy!
same tbh
I hope I'll also get back to the fire warpath paladin since Reen now works again with channeled stuff
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj48LwQ oki, adjusted weapon choice then
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (36) / Bladedancer (77)
▸ Health: 2,241, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 213.6, Regen: 16.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 129 Dex / 13 Int / 13 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 64% / 64% / 64% / 64% / 85% / 90%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 528
▸ Dodge Chance: 65% (3130)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (625)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
we good now?
Bro, dat resistances...
no dont listen to him
Your EHP is probably zero
your resistences are fine
sooo what am i suppose to die to not die?
you dropped the flask nodes on shift????
i m a meta slave now, yes
ye, dont listen me
why do u umbral blade on it? U have the chance to use shadow dagger not umbral blade O_O
also, his HP, dodge anr armour are fine too
and i am petty sure passives are fine too
somehow, besides, he dying. I really interested, why
ye 4 shadow sync
its the shadows drop umbral blades to freeze stuff Ithink
Because there is nothing better to put instead of it
139m crit
because he ain't doin enough dmg

why do you have 4 points in smoke blades as a bow build though @flint turret
surely you can move 3 of those to faster dusk shroud stacks
jesus 
For umbrals obviously. I already have like 30 stacks of D's I don't think extra few will make any difference
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ap4RGYjA
what do u think about this?
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1
Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (7) / Marksman (67) / Falconer (10)
▸ Health: 2,210, Regen: 38.08/s
▸ Mana: 162.55, Regen: 12.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 65/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 119 Dex / 13 Int / 25 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 202% / 85% / 74% / 95% / 78% / 123%
▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 965
▸ Dodge Chance: 48% (1814)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (820)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 14%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%
Puncture / Shift / Heartseeker / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver
yeah its almost the same as i was running
just with ravs and no cold overcap
what are you doing for crit avoidance?
Nothing >_>
maybe take this?
me? avoid blessing +5 points in mm
no i saw what you were doing ragu
but dav has allres blessing to get more cold pen
i need toget more people using blind so my HS build looks less awful
is this a skill point?
its not bad i swear
can't find
its in smokebomb
its attached to the duration node
ohoooooo u aren't the only one that say to use that point
no it was probably me yesterday saying it
other hs user use chance to blind on quiver
nono u ain't the only one
I've to figure out if use Phase point or Troaka
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9VP4V5B is there a feasible merchant upgrade i can get? theres no 3lp gloves, helm or armor on the market ever. Theres no 2lp rings or relic either ever. I have plenty of money but it seems this is as far as i can get with trade no? maybe buy the same gear but slightly better?
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)
▸ Health: 3,510, Regen: 143.64/s
▸ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 206 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 92% / 92% / 95% / 99% / 82% / 87%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Dodge Chance: 64% (2929)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,269)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%
sorry wrong link lol
yeah i was going to say....
y it was the build from whats his name ofc lol, had wrong tab open
I'm really not a fan of blind instead of avoidance or reduction
It's way too unreliable
blind is 100% reliable against ubberoth for me other senarios its uhhhhh.... acceptable
but then again I dont ubberoth on HS
For Abby... Maybe I could live with that, but in monos hell no
The only time when it might screw me up on Uber is when 2 harbingers spawn
Other than that it should be fine
I just really wish there was a good way to build HS that didn't rely on damage procs from dragonsong or RoW
For res side my issue is the anchor of oblivion but it seems a rlly big Tank item
without it i can play with the blessing of crit avoid
Ummmm
i tried it with bleed but it just didnt' work
I killed Uber with gathering fury
It's okay
ye i did test before, the damage is rlly similar with gathering @undone dune
my issue with bleed was just that like i had to wait for like 6 seconds for a single enemy to die then the punctures would clear the screen
Hs is not about proc at all, it's just some extra
and then do that again on the next set of enemies
gathering fury is an interesting idea though
I bet you could use even valor
too bad there is no lightning convert
Because it has 5% flat crit you can slam it with t5 flat crit and t7 multi
And do pretty good damage with it
wouldn't dragonsong just be better than that
ignorin the proc
its still has 7% crit and +14 flat over talons
Dragonsong is not scaled by ucenui
and talons is?
yeah
gathering's bow damage being lightning and not addaptive always through me off
becuase the cold convert wont work on that
so i never tried it
Yeah that's a minus
but I guess the orb doesn't care
But at least ucenui scales lightning too
it does lightning too 
after playing other builds HS dps just feels lacking to me im glad i started with it before I experienced the other bullshit happening this league
because i didn't realize what i was missing
For me hs is almost a perfect skill as is. There is almost nothing I would want to be changed about it
Only exception being that when you take both fire and cold conversion it stays fire for some reason
The issue I have with hs personally isn't a hs issue but a dot issue, and that is clearing
But on dot build I just... use row for monos and gathering fury for st
Row amplifies the puncture shotgun to "I lag now" amounts 
If it was doing more damage it would be nearing the op threshold imo
but everything is OP
Not really, in rogue only falconer is broken
more aoe would be nice outside of the puncture node
Meh, puncture clears just fine even at 1k
VK is also absurd
minion snapshotting for both beastmaster and necro goes really hard although I think that always worked people just wern't doing it as openly
umbral is just the OP rogue build
Right... 😄
Well I'm not comparing rogue to other classes, in rogue bd and mm are decently balanced, with the exception that they butchered the blast rain da for no reason. Falconer is just a favorite child who gets unfairly good treatment every season
that dps....
Blastrain da nerfed to the ground, falconer kills Uber Abby in 30s. Mkay
falconer might be 🤏 little more than just "OP" against bosses
how long does ZHP ballista take to kill ubberoth? 2mins?
are those 2 mods the same for cold hs ?
Increased Damage while wielding a Bow
Bow Elemental Damage
Both roll 48% to 60% at tier 5
They are not
bow elemetnal damage does not work on RoW procs
the icicles arn't bow damage
neither are your frostbite stacks
And umbral too (in case you use them like me)
😿
Damage while welding a bow is global tho
_> sad can't swap vitality for dex
I can't find a base to do my helmet >_>
which is the mod on the sealed slot ? Cold res?
You can seal it easily
Well, more or less easily
I gonna go check if there are any bad t7 t6 on market and try to play
Idk, even after sealing... is it something you would slam on 4LP Peak, just because of the t7 phys res? 🤔
Yeah it's 69% chance to seal t2 on 4 affix exalted
Nice
Dunno, I would havoc it probably
the seal chance is based on tier of mod you want to seal, total tiers on the item, and the highest tier on the item, so exalted with a t7 and the other affixes being t5 is highest chance but I think it wont go much above 70% chance at t2
I'm not a fan of t7 res it scales bad Into t7
It's fine guys, i wanna craft an helmet with 1t7 1t6 t5 t5
i assume you just use a havoc on it
i will try to annull bad bases until i it xd
But it's not THAT bad to have t7 phys res on a mourningfrost build. It really needs lots of phys res on gear
i rlly want a craft of exile too ahahah
And you only choises are helm, quiver, boots and relic usually, maybe belt too
yeah i just realized a t7 dex mod is 2x a t5 but a t7 phys res is only 50% better than a t5
I never really thought about it that hard before becuase res is normally not an issue

Oh btw I didn't notice, your elecoe has cold dam instead of res. I'd recommend trying to get double suffix, even tho I killed like 10+ belts trying to do it to get t7 hybrid t5 res on a brew belt
that quiver really wants poison bow to be a thing
Seal fire res, get shred, stonks
does shred armor affect dots?
Hs converts shred to poison chance
ohh
i forgot about that node
does that node convert armor shred effect into poison damage?
the elecoe on planner has cold dmg and hybrid healt
I highly doubt it
would be great tho
Yeah, that's what I said
45 res looks better than t5 cold dam
hasanyone tried pushing dancing strikes bladedancer?
-.-
litteraly miss 3% res
1% from each ring, 1% from nihilis .-.
no room for a small idol?
none, i will keep it at 72
i've ravenous void, they will compensate
yeah i tried to play it for a bit but it feels a little clunk
maintaining rhythm and moving around
man getting a 2lp weapon is so annoying
wait until you have to actually also hit 2 prefix on it
turtle is ur best bet
turtle echo?
ya, farm a bunch of lp1 bows
like 20-30 and take them all to a single turtle echo
u will get 2-3 lp2
hmmm
void birb? 
Looking very pretty there, watch out for random Shade of Orobyss encounter
you right vs the guy she tells you to not worry about (left)
i m more of a left
yea i bough it
🤮
i have an annoying problem now tho
and my other 2 or 3 sells are 1.5 bil each
so i cant buy gold cap items until i sell some fodder
and my wallet is near empty 😦
10% is fine for my vers
although good news
someone put this up for only 1.7
so i could clear
thankfully i have a good slammer
So I found out I dont have any Adorned idol with both crit multi+shred effect
but got 30% LM area with 70% shred effect
Yea I find it super useless
only increases aoe from the hits of the mirages and it so tiny
increasing 30% of like 0.2m
you dont even notice LUL
I reach pretty much across the whole screen with LM and all the mob packs basically explode anyway already 😄
ok now im "poor" until i do my 50 aberroths
but that will be another day
now i need to do m+ in wow
you can use eye of reen for salt the wound things
but the playerbase of BD is already quite low no one really cares
LM bleed was the original way you played it kinda
Reen is used for cascade
Yeah I used to onetap like 200-300c bosses with single bleed puncture pop 😄 felt super fun
then you pop it with puncture yes
Nothing new for 3 seasons outside of bbc
people got tired of playing shadow daggers thingy
then falconer got released
and does everything better
for less
and tankier
and has a pet
and idk what more
It still works, just not really onetaps bosses at higher corruption... but Ive done a bit over 500c and Aberroth with just bleed DS without puncture, so... 😄 it just took some time ofc
I would have gladly played chakram in 1.2 which was massively buffed if I was not tempted by hs more
but mapping at that corr is quite chill
ok maybe tomorrow after m+ i do those 2 slams
i also have to craft some boots
idk what to put on them
t7 dex cdr and what else hmm
maybe mana regen and hybrid life
nah movement is already good
i have like 60% perma
In 1.3 falconer will get scrapped after devs got all those Uber Abby stats prayge
or maybe i go the long way and try to double exalt it somehow
well people are catching on abomination and storm crows snap
it is funny seeing the abo auto for 84m
If they didn't listen to players maybe they will listen to their Uber Abby stats
man is a fountain of content
Juse only started playing in in the late 1.1 and falconer was op since it's release
So it's not like no one knew that it's op
Ah, I see. Well I don't think they either care at all or do this
Thats called copium
After they added Uber Abby as it, balance should become a big concern tho. I would agree that before this it wasn't such an issue
I am playing sentinel this season since I already played a lot of falconer last season and sentinel is just plain better then MM/BD
Oh really 
Because either no one should be able to clear it or almost everything should. And segregation for masteries that almost never can and masteries that always can with ease is super unhealthy for both the game diversity in general and for mg in particular
guys meee i'm unlucky 😦 try 3°
they should just delete MG...learn from D3
Uber Aby does create a problem though...I am forced to play paladin just to have a shot at uber abby and I hate that mastery
I am playing a ES VK just to farm gear for judgement paladin...I hate that build so much
I'm actually okay with Uber difficulty. It was the most interesting thing to clear for me so far in le. But knowing that I could just swap to falconer and kill it in a min instead of days of trying to do it in my ethical hs, takes a big toll on both my mental and my fun gauge ngl
And before you say you can kill uber on VK...I can't...I need brain dead build for Uber
Void is as good
i'm void cap without mods
How
with VK you need to do mechanics...my plan is to slowly farm paladin gear and then just tank everything
there is a video of almost afk paladin killing uber aberroth...that's the level of engagement I am looking for
Pinnacle boss that forces you to follow mechanics? Ridiculous 
i'm not capped, i miss 3 %
19% Red ring of Atlaria
19% Red ring of Atlaria
20% Blessing
14% Nihilis
+++++++++
15% less void damage taken from ravenous void (I make a random 1kkk , bought a rlly nice pair and carfted %health maxed)
i don't wanna use a slot for 3% >_>
What you do for crit avoid/reduce?