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paper leaf
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O_o

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link? Q_Q

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nvm find

pearl forge
paper leaf
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thx ^^

pearl forge
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i use the semi strict one for the longest time and update when they do then change a few things

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like showing the mirage champion gloves and some more 0lp things i farm

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like blade and portent/seed etc

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but i may want to use strict now idk

paper leaf
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👍 I see too much things on the ground , i'm trying the one fro myour website uber now

thin quartz
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mine is super strict for my own gear tho

paper leaf
sharp sinew
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My rogue feels so squishy at 150c lol, almost cap all res and 2k life. Don’t have blood rosst yet, does it really make a big difference?

daring yew
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yeah I'm in the same boat

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comparing it to my sentinel is a joke...

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I know I need to work on my gb chance + dodge but even then

sharp sinew
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Ya my sentinel just face tank everything with mediocre gear, rogue die quite a lot. Maybe just a skill issue:(

daring yew
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I don't feel like I should be fighting for my life at 100c with decent gear

muted roost
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try playing mage

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its crazy how much survivability you get

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im spellblade

potent arrow
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used like 20 havocs on chestpieces and still no t7 dex, thats crazy

pearl forge
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yea it can be hard

proven mulch
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Thoughts on this node for Umbral Blades?

potent arrow
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what build?

thin quartz
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it should be redemption rune on any T7 and when you hit int/str/att, that's when you swap it to dex. havoc is too precious to use it for a single exalted.

proven mulch
dusky schooner
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If you’re scaling umbral damage, it’s great. If you’re going for a shadow dive build, not great

potent arrow
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theres a node in divebomb called Midnight Aviary that has a negative effect with the that umbral node

proven mulch
potent arrow
dusky schooner
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Umbral would be so much better if the dusk shroud stacks worked (without birds aren’t real) :/

thin quartz
potent arrow
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yeah already used all the redemptions up on it as wwell, not hitting

elder condor
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is dive bomb still bugged in any way?

dusky schooner
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Birds aren’t real is bugged, so is the node that gives dusk shroud if shadow falcons hit an enemy (doesn’t work without birds aren’t real)

paper leaf
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Btw i find the screenshot of the kills of uber abby

proven mulch
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*Blades

dusky schooner
proven mulch
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ugh, that was the big damage multiplier I was relying on.

dusky schooner
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Same… :/

elder condor
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is it bugged or just how it is?

dusky schooner
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You can take birds aren’t real and it’ll work, but your dive bomb and shadow dives will do like 1% dmg

serene crane
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Hooolyyyy whyyyyy

proven mulch
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Just so we're clear, this is the node that doesn't work right?

elder condor
dusky schooner
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No, that node works

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It’s the node that makes shadow falcons give dusk shroud stacks on dive bomb tree

dusky schooner
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You should get like 18-24 per dive and get 0 🙂

gentle basalt
dusky schooner
wild harbor
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pally has a little ramp up for judgment

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i mean your mostly immortal during that ramp up but yeee

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i think void knights at the top because erasing strike no?

undone dune
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the devs said on stream void knight is at the top because sentinal is the most popular class after the rework

pearl forge
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mostly also because 1lp slams favor them a lot

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so they kinda speedran clear

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you can get like 1.1k mana fast and eraring strike on chest etc

wild harbor
undone dune
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he said theres something like 9x as many VKs as pallys but only 3x as many ubberoth kills with them

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its just a numbers game

wild harbor
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ye cuz vk kinda ballanced by being a good deal squishier

undone dune
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VK has more than enough sustain to make ubberoth pretty trivial

wild harbor
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still tanky in terms of every char in the game but probably squishiest path of sentinel

pearl forge
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likely could make a montage with all the VK dying while using abilities

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on uberroth

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and it would last days

wild harbor
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lol

undone dune
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yeah the erasing strike attack time is kinda funny

elder condor
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how do you do this?

pearl forge
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there is a node

undone dune
pearl forge
elder condor
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ohh wow okay so that's what people go for

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thank you master

wild harbor
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i hate aerial assault now that you cant go out of bounds with it

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i cri

elder condor
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feels a lot better on controller even tho I didn't play it while it was bugged

wild harbor
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lol

serene crane
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@pearl forge ok, some upgrades I can swap around to... also two 16dex Julra rings 😄 Im not sure how i feel about waiting a bit for the Julra combo, but the damage is definitely there 😄

pearl forge
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no need to wait tbh it just coincides sometimes with the combo

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but i did notice the shred on neck being big becaus i could take it off the tree etc

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to get more dex/dmg

serene crane
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Ye I usually do like 2 LM bursts before Julra gets back online, since my LM also generates shadows 😄

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I also want to change %lightning dmg blessing to the light shred one and kinda test out swapping explo trap for decoy

marsh plank
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has anyone done a throwing heartseeker build yet? I didn't see one on lastepochtools

pearl forge
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it seems cool

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but will likely take some big effort to do dmg with it

marsh plank
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ya with the new helm

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I am going to try and build one with physical but wanted to see what otherrs had done

undone dune
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I just cant figure out where the damage is suppozed to come from with only 1 projectile

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normally HS has dozens

marsh plank
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I am testing umbral blades but just feels clunky

pearl forge
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you also use your normal HS

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the extra is just something extra to begin the fight maybe

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but yea seems like only having 1 is very weird

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maybe just a support helmet for shurikens MM

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or a weird acid flask shuriken HS hybrid

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just stacking throw dmg

marsh plank
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if I take the blade dancer nodes maybe I can do a melee detonating arrow with HS? just brainstorming but I don't see the synergies

pearl forge
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seems like you want to stack dex and throwing dmg

marsh plank
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I just don't see HS as being the primary dmg dealer this way

paper leaf
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hey sorry to keep bother u, do u have a list of "expansive" mods to sell? @pearl forge

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I'm trying to make money to get lp4 Peak of the mountain ^^

gentle basalt
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HS with the helm will be mana generator at best pretty much

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and at that point might as well just not use the helm too :d

wraith nacelle
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Is any one trying to push heart seeker in high corruption/possibly uberoth. Iv pushed a fire versions up to 1178 but its starting to slow down mostly due to survivability(mostly orabis fights) and was wondering if there was anything different I could do to keep pushing higher with heart seeker marksman

pearl forge
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helmet seems fine as a support but yea

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basically enables using HS with daggers becuase it auto fires

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but main ability will be shurikens or something else

gentle basalt
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yea, i mean it can generate decent amount of mana so might enable deto arrow again

pearl forge
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also armor shred and some other things i think

gentle basalt
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dusk shrouds, crimson shroud, frenzy, mana/hp, frailty, armor shred

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good utility

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you even get to reduce it to 0 mana cost as throwing skill so even more mana gain

undone dune
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ohh i didn't consider that part of it

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does -throw manacost work on throwing subskills? basically could you make the fire daggers node free

halcyon kestrel
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in the shadow cascade skill tree, is there any point in putting points into leveraged momentum if you have a point in crushing darkness?

potent arrow
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that the attack speed = more dmg and the no attack speed node?

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last i heard they work together

undone dune
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I forget for shadow cascade by default attackspeed just makes it attack faster right?

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its not like blade dance

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unless you talent it like that

serene crane
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yummers! Perfect for Torkrefin? 😄

snow cedar
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So what’s the best heartseeker build?

marsh plank
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most people are playing frost but seen some physical

tired hinge
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the unarmed buffs on falcon fists, does that only matter for mainhand? can i wield a shield and get the bonus?

potent arrow
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reckon these are worth a copy with Rune of Creation and then slam em on the Foot of the Mountain?

indigo jewel
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anyone else having problems with smoke bomb? just started for me today. every once in a while it just keeps going on CD without me even using it

maiden gale
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Did you make it a movement skill?

lone beacon
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Which would be best for falcon? still can't find a throwing inheritance of the erased =/

indigo jewel
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ohh i found the problem. i unequipped gear on accident and lost the traversal tag

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from storm on the horizon. thanks @maiden gale

wide yacht
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wtf

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it makes it more jarring the fact that EHG made a policy of "no balance changes" during a season

indigo jewel
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i dont mind that policy if the seasons are relatively short

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but it seems seasons are pretty long in LE

maiden gale
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bladedancer has been a sad thing for longer than one patch lmao

snow rampart
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hi do you realy need razorfall to respect my rogue leveling build to my umbral falconner build ^

wide yacht
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dancing strikes is still yet to be fixed after all this time

serene crane
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brah I was alreadz gone, cmon 😄

wide yacht
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the chances of seeing any good and significant changes to the class are rather low already

indigo jewel
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@snow rampart i played without razorfall for a really long time. JUST found it at lvl 95 lmao. I was clearing 200 corruption without it pretty easily but when i found it was a game changer

maiden gale
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falconer is broken enough for all 3 subclasses

serene crane
snow rampart
wide yacht
indigo jewel
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i cleared spirits of fire lik 15 times before i found Razorfall maybe even more

wide yacht
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with how rogue lacks defenses that cannot rival any other class really

maiden gale
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antimelee is a thing in like every arpg

indigo jewel
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ya melee is tough spot for all Arpgs

elfin brook
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I died like 80 times trying to Uber abberoth on vk Es and then swapped to juse's build and got it after 5 tries

serene crane
undone dune
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i died easily 100 times learning abberoth with the maxroll umbral blades guide, after I finally killed it I learned about the quick kill with Juses build

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so much of the fight is just dieing in the first 30 seconds untill you actually learn to dodge and bait correctly

wide yacht
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even EHG cannot make a melee class like bladedancer realistically go competitive or meta i suppose

serene crane
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Feels the same like playing melee warrior in poe2 😄

wide yacht
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and no shadow daggers don't count from the beta, that is not melee

undone dune
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bldaedancer has a damage issue not a mechanics issue

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smokeweaver shift shadowcascade is a really fun build with great clear it just cant deal damage to bosses

wide yacht
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abusing umbral blades back then went against the very identity of a bladedancer, the class that is supposed to "dance around the battlefield" like a majestic assassin

serene crane
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BD damage is fine, damage of other specs that can so easily farm Uberroth is not fine, the damage of some Uberroth hits is not fine either 😄 sure its meant to be hard, but not this clusterf*ck of things happening

wide yacht
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now falconer just does it better and clear off screen

undone dune
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yeah like I said, damage problem

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not mechanics

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if LM could do divebomb damage everyone would be playing BD

wide yacht
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whatever really, they think acolyte needs help more badly, i don't mind that - but they can't just ignore BD for a whole another season

undone dune
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I really think BD and even marksman would be super meta with like 1 or 2 funny uniques to enable builds

wide yacht
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how hard can it be to fix dancing strikes and LM?

undone dune
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even if there are a bunch of really jank broken talents and a very underwhelming passive tree

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like if mourningforst didn't have the resistance downside, and there was a single pair of gloves in the game that increased damage while using bow attacks

flint turret
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dam i need a bit more hp

serene crane
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Yeah thats what I thought too... so I got more hp, just go get oneshotted anyway just for more damage 😄

flint turret
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im not supposed to eat it anyway

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im happy so far with how i can inore beams\puddles

undone dune
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the damage range on that flail slam is crazy

flint turret
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im positive ill kill him

undone dune
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can do as little as 2k and as much as like 6k

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also dont the beams/puddles give you stacks that lower your damage? idk about ignore them just dont worry about dodging through them

gentle basalt
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there is bunch of uniques for some very specific archetypes then theres nothing for half of other stuff

undone dune
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yeah peole keep asking why every HS build uses one of the elemental proc bows, and the answer is just, there is no phy damage unique bow

serene crane
undone dune
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such a unique doesn't exist

undone dune
gentle basalt
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yea and because of LP system you dont want to be sitting on rares almost ever

undone dune
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there is no bow basetype with as much base bow damage as the uniques have either

serene crane
gentle basalt
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and sets also suck

undone dune
flint turret
undone dune
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ohh the 3 sector....

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even worse

flint turret
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melee big slam oneshots me too

undone dune
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mage has a really good exalted lightning pen set for example

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and I think some sentinal builds use the str stacking endurance set

gentle basalt
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the str stacking one looked like only decent one that is worth sacrificing unique slots to me when i was going through them

undone dune
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is there even a set that has a bow or quiver?

serene crane
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nope

undone dune
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didn't think so....

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and sets like zerric's that add flat damage specifically exclude bows

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although I did see someone with a jank BD build using zerric's set

gentle basalt
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yea theres also bunch of unnecessary restrictions, like stuff that applies to melee or throwing with this limited amount of items could just be attack only and thats it

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would open bunch of builds up

undone dune
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actually I just realized every weapon type but bow has a harbinger drop doesn't it

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instead theres just the quiver i guess

oblique prism
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opinions on talons of valor vs traitors tongue dive bomb / umbral blades for uber aberoth? already have a decent mono farmer

undone dune
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for uber abberoth specifically traitor's tongue is significantly better

undone dune
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those are completely different things

serene crane
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Ahhh, my bad... the ability to read is not working properly 😄

oblique prism
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@undone dune is talons of valor significantly better for monos then? or is traitors all around better. just dropped a 4lp troaka's teeth quiver and was curious if i should put it to use or just farm the daggers instead

lone beacon
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been farming the fate weavers and I have so much PTSD from the lasers, now when I get a shrine that gives me the laser I start panick dodging.

serene crane
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Bow, dagger, wand, gloves and relic and amulet (unless you count Aberroths too) idk maybe something else too

undone dune
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no i would say talons of valor is arguably 5 or 10% better for echos, and traitors tongue reduced my kill time on ubberoth from 4 mins to 40 seconds

serene crane
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axe

oblique prism
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lmaooo ok tyvm for the tips

undone dune
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the only advantage bow has is +16 dex on quiver

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no other stats on the bow matter that traitor's tongues cant get you

oblique prism
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gotcha gotcha, tyvm

undone dune
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and tongues have way more flat damage

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oh also dual wielding makes you take 8% more daage that matters in echos i gues

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forgot that part

muted roost
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Is it worth stacking up on dex or not?

undone dune
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stacking dex with razorfall is the whole build

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or do you mean for general rogues and not just umbral falconer

muted roost
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General rogues

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I’m blade dander

lone beacon
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but if you want speed farming (below 1k corruption). In terms of efficiency, bow might be better for that 1 extra umbral dagger. damage is so insane anyways regardless

undone dune
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dex is 4% increased damage and some dodge, its a good stat but if you arn't getting some other benefit from it (activating red ring maybe) its not as good of a scalar as affixes for specific damage types

muted roost
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dodge is always good

flint turret
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almost killed 2nd harb we slowly getting there

serene crane
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Shattered soon

flint turret
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got to his heal

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getting there

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11 min fight to get to his heal

undone dune
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man thats a marathon

flint turret
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thats gonna be legit 15 min total if i kill him

undone dune
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what build?

flint turret
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crit hs

wraith nacelle
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Is there a way to attract black arrows to the player instead of just staying where they land ?

undone dune
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good luck

hollow marten
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Hi everyone I'm new and have a noob question for rogue. If I have my Shift skill throwing Shurikens when I shift... are those shurikens receiving bonuses from my Shuriken skill specialization tree?

gentle basalt
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yes

hollow marten
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thanks

serene cairn
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First jungle queen dropped on 784 corr...

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holy

serene crane
flint turret
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best so far

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not bad considering im doinfg it for less than 2h

serene crane
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Broken build confirmed, get ready to be nerfed kappa

serene cairn
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I think this nemesis is giving LP to my red ring

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dont ask why I just have a feeling

slim breach
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Not all max rolls, trash

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Pass it to me I'll dispose of it

serene cairn
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offline kappa

serene crane
ebon gale
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Is some lesser version of the Juse Uber killer build viable in SAF COF?

serene cairn
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idk, i'm running less than that (still using talons etc) and i absolutely dumpster uber

muted roost
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im really enjoying this game and the freedom it gives you to do builds

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Was struggling with Bladedancer at first because I was going high dps with flurry and just getting shit on by everything but then I swapped my specialized skills to shadow focused and im doing much better

undone dune
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the bow build might actually be better at very low gear levels because the +16 dex mod on quiver is helpful

serene crane
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Shouldnt really be too hard to hit 160+ dex for Falconer... 😄

half nova
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you can also do dagger and corsair shield for less dex

undone dune
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oh i forgot to mention it needs a razorfall

undone dune
elder condor
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for the umbral falconer build what is the most important unique I need?

undone dune
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razorfall(boots) are 100% mandatory. 2nd best unique is blood roost (gloves) as they provide a ton of sustain

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after that you can kind of customize a bit although peak of the mountain is kind of universally good

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if you can get high lP on it

elder condor
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These dropped earlier with me and my friend

cosmic briar
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II wanna remind that Juse pushed 3k corruption and made many uberroths kills w/o blood roost

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he used exalted glove with t7dex and +1shadow

undone dune
serene cairn
undone dune
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the falcon "hits" like 20 times a second

cosmic briar
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but yes, blood roost provides to you something similar like overleech from Slayer in PoE

undone dune
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blood roost are also the only unique gloves in teh game that have dex on them

cosmic briar
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probably anything that doesnt oneshot u - u get your HP back in 0.0001 second

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thats how we can stay on several uberroths novas and dnt give a fck while we attacking him

elder condor
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Yeah cause it sucks you don’t leech off of crits with peak of the mountain

undone dune
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you dont leech period because its a minion build

cosmic briar
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u dont need leech cos u have gain on hit

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wich is probably a WAY stronger defensive layer

serene crane
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Kinda funnz Blood Roost doesnt have a time limit for that effect 😄

cosmic briar
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what r u mean by time

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it doesnt leech

serene cairn
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the effect has no cooldown

cosmic briar
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its gain

serene crane
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something liket his

inland yacht
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so if you max out both of the acid flask shift nodes, it's supposed to drop one when you leave and one when you arrive correct?

undone dune
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i think if you spec into the flask tree you can get 3 when you leave and arrive

inland yacht
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nah it specifies it only drops one when used that way

undone dune
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ohh

cosmic briar
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well, u also have similar effect on your Falconry tree

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and it also havent cd

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😄

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so blood roost are good, but not mandatory

inland yacht
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I'm guessing this is just a bug then since it doesn't drop at my feet when I start too

undone dune
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so when they changed it to only 1 projectile they scuffed it so only 1 of the nodes works

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classic

inland yacht
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nah it's if you have the trap node

undone dune
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🤔

inland yacht
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if you have the trap node, the one that drops when you start doesn't cast it

crude coral
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How do you one button numlock do anyone know

undone dune
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it breaks every time you alt tab though

serene crane
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lmao I killed The Stolen Lance harbringer (almost 1k corr) so fast that her ballista kept shooting me after her death for like 15s 😄

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salty ballista :c

crude coral
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But does the skill go off without one key I was trying to use one key to use all

cosmic briar
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probably

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if u wanna minmax falconer

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i think exalted glove WILL BE stronger than bloodroost

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since we have too many points in falconry already, we just dont need so many

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and +1 shadow is monstruosly strong for us

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u can say: hey bro, its another +10dex

elder condor
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You think it’s a bad idea if I’m lvl 73 doing corruption 100 monos?

cosmic briar
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well, u will not be able to push 240 anyway, and we interested in dex breakpoints

elder condor
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I’m dying kinda easily by one shots sadly /:

cosmic briar
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VoId DaMaGe

serene crane
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ez Dreamthorn

cosmic briar
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i think i need rewrite my macro

lone beacon
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will this imprint work even if there's already a sealed affix?

cosmic briar
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seems like something going weird

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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

elder condor
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Is anyone doing macro for umbral falconer?

cosmic briar
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i trying

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cos i just never doing numlock binds

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_>

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never tried*

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but my old AHK now seems weird so idk

chilly void
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any insane dmg rogues in here wanna kill uber with me? im vk es

lone beacon
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smoke manually

cosmic briar
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and ill kill it for you

muted roost
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dont know if its a bug or what but I just teleported to Monolith of fate and instantly jumped up 3 levels?

chilly void
elder condor
cosmic briar
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maybe he just dont wanna fight 20 min

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XD

chilly void
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rogues are goated

elder condor
cosmic briar
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birbs arent goats

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wtf man

chilly void
lone beacon
chilly void
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reel goatz

serene crane
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Maybe thats what the birbs want you to think?

cosmic briar
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birbs are the best

elder condor
midnight bridge
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In the Shadow Cascade tree does Crushing Darkness cancel out Leveraged Momentum?

serene crane
cosmic briar
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i just google it any time need to send

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'parrot with a gun'

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XD

serene crane
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My god this looks so sad 😄

flint turret
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Rewatched the wudjo hs kill, man those gloves put up some work. He's tanking direct hits like mace slam and 3-sector with them while I'm dying

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Whelp, just have to play better

serene crane
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Yeah, kinda carried there 😄

teal lagoon
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so detonate traps vs Falconry skill specialisation?

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should I drop Falconry for traps?

cosmic briar
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wat

teal lagoon
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also double daggers or bow + quiver on Falconer??

cosmic briar
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yep

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invite

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FFFTsuba

teal lagoon
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idk, I think following guides has confused me more than trying to cook up my own build hahaha

cosmic briar
teal lagoon
cosmic briar
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got something interesting? 😄

teal lagoon
cosmic briar
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if u play umbral falconer u cant unspec falcon

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if its something special u created, idk

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hm

teal lagoon
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wait really?

cosmic briar
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numlock trick works a way better than ahk

teal lagoon
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thought umbrals come from AA not falconry

cosmic briar
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u created your own build or followed someone

chilly void
teal lagoon
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I'm following Juse rn, but considering to try Lizard's maxroll build

elder condor
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Did y’all make the macro toggle or hold?

undone dune
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If you take falcon strikes off your bar you don't have a summoned falcon and can't AA or divebomb

cosmic briar
elder condor
cosmic briar
undone dune
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Ohh

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Don't do that

teal lagoon
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oh why not?

undone dune
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You need to spec falconry to give your birb crit chance and character damage scaling

teal lagoon
cosmic briar
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well my difference with Juse gear is now only in health and helm lmao

dire sable
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Not saying wearing this would make your Rogue a queen on floor.. But..

pearl forge
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damn perfect rolls too

cosmic briar
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throwing+dex...

elder condor
cosmic briar
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

cosmic briar
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i newbie in LE and had no problem with his build

teal lagoon
#

don't they always haha

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alright I'll cook up smth myself I think, checking guides makes me more confused than learning lmao

elder condor
undone dune
#

the maxroll guide has a few innacurate statements

teal lagoon
#

next question : when in game tooltip says "minion - throwing" how does that scale on? there's no "minion throwing damage" affix right?

dire sable
elder condor
teal lagoon
#

also does falcon scale on "increased minion dmg"?

undone dune
#

it still has all the errors

cosmic briar
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falcon scales from 50% of MOST increased your types of damage

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so it can be increased physical, increased minion... etc

serene crane
#

@pearl forge specced into this funny thing... it kinda goes nicely with the flow when smoke is ready 😄 200flat dodge, frailty, 6 armor shreds => crit multi for 4seconds and 2 shadows

undone dune
#

thsi gives the falcon throwing damage

cosmic briar
#

but most optimal is use minion, cos in THAT situation u can roll it on amulet, as example, and dont waste prefixes on daggers

cosmic briar
undone dune
undone dune
#

maybe on unique gloves?

cosmic briar
#

dk true, but %minion and %physical we know, for sure

teal lagoon
elder condor
stray verge
#

Sorry quick check for the Rogues, is this item being used or a meta? :c

undone dune
elder condor
undone dune
#

the falcon build tripple dipps from inheritance

elder condor
lavish haven
#

how do I search at the bazar for a gear with a modifier that has say +4 heartseeker?

undone dune
#

this sentance is still there

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as like "this is how you scale with divebomb"

visual bay
#

Getting a useful Inheritance feels like such a grind currently unfortunately 😦

undone dune
#

you need 1 of t6+ throwing/ phys pen/ crit multi

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any work

teal lagoon
cosmic briar
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(86 throwing pepeclown.jpg)

undone dune
#

it also gives 21 from the conversion on the tree

cosmic briar
#

oh ye sorry

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its 107

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cos conversion

visual bay
#

Thought Crit Multi was still not super valued for Umbral

cosmic briar
#

does nothing

undone dune
#

its not because it doens't affect the bird

cosmic briar
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as tested

undone dune
#

but crit multi on the neck does

cosmic briar
#

only on THIS neck

undone dune
#

yeah exactly

visual bay
#

OH right.

cosmic briar
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cos it transact ANY of its stats to minion

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and as we have only 1 minion (falcon lmao)

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its always on him

visual bay
#

Yeah, forgot about that part of it. Hm, maybe I do have a decent one banked then.

cosmic briar
#

best one is throwing, but any damage node here will be usefull

pearl forge
#

might try it

cosmic briar
#

insaniest one will be multi/minion dmg + throwing

undone dune
#

I used it last season on a zhp ballista but with +ballista skills not +dex

stray verge
#

Appreciate the insight thank you!

elder condor
undone dune
#

every class (other than maybe sentinal) has a lot of non-functional nodes

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i think rogue might have the least tbh

serene crane
#

One thing for sure: with two decoys out it doesnt stack the flat dodge, so cant really use it for twice as much crit multi... kinda sadge, but at least it makes 2 shadows

elder condor
undone dune
#

im actually kidn of worried its going to get weaker

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the math for these skills just isn't mathing

serene crane
#

Might just spec from 2 decoys and take Ear Shatter... anything else is kinda whatever... maybe only Lasting Presence for longer dodge but thats not why Im taking it anayway

undone dune
#

i shouldn't be hitting billions of damage on target dummies

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something is bugged to give WAY too much scaling

serene crane
#

Sounds like any normal day for falconer

pearl forge
#

dummies dont have the monolith lvl less dmg scaling

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but still falconer does silly dmg anyway

serene crane
cosmic briar
#

problem is we all after MANY tests stil cant be sure in cases 'wich works wich doesnt works'

elder condor
#

bug fest

cosmic briar
#

but i can say that most of power obviously comes from sooo many iteractions

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and from ridiculous scale from dex

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its like - u know - 1000% from dex for just blades themselves, and also dark blades, wich scales from dex again, etc

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cooldowns wich cast more skills wich reducing colldown over skills and again and again and again

elder condor
#

this is why I'm using a macro now. I'm noticing it's becoming a piano build lol.

elder condor
serene cairn
#

Lol I went from a 3 LP talons of valor to two non-legendary traitors tongues and my damage like quadruipled

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wat 🙂

elder condor
#

which one should I use?

cosmic briar
#

i am really interested why i sometimes stopped deals damage =/

cosmic briar
elder condor
#

ty

tribal bear
#

does % damage per arrow w/ multishot interact with bleed dot applied by the node when using multishot?

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just find the wording a bit weird as it's not "hit"

cosmic briar
#

Stil trying to find fodder for that ahahaha

elder condor
#

ohh that belt

elder condor
#

Anyone able to help? Kinda getting giga melted in empowered monoliths right now. I just want some insight of what I could do or something I’m not already doing

bold brook
elder condor
sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (3) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,253, Regen: 19.93/s
▸ Mana: 160.38, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 6/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 61 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 54% / 37% / 60% / 110% / 28% / 31% / 28%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 251
▸ Dodge Chance: 23% (624)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (748)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 3%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 29%

undone dune
#

specifically on the far right you can just import your character name

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oh you got it

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ok so you are underleveled and have very low HP for corrupted monos

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resistance also not even close to capped

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I dont think i would recomend 2 daggers at your gear level bow+quiver for more dex will treat you better you dont even have the divebomb nodes based on dual wielding

elder condor
#

I guess rogues really do need that hp bad

undone dune
#

quiver with dex mod + 2 resistances would help a fair bit

elder condor
undone dune
#

consider conerting umbral to cold (and taking the 2 freeze nodes behind it) too the random freezes help you survive

undone dune
#

you are gaining nothing from them

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and taking 8% more damage from dual wield

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well i guess you are getting shadow daggers procs

elder condor
#

ohh yeah... I gotta spec out of that. Man they gotta do something about that downside cause who wants to take more damage on a rogue lol

undone dune
#

but you arn't through enough blades to trigger it consistantly

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if you have no bow at all you could also try to roll allres on a shield

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the WW shield + the node to turn block into glancing blow is actually super good defensively early on for falconer as you gear up

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although talons + any quiver will probably serve you best right now

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also your rings are awful

elder condor
#

I don’t got red rings lol. Hopefully one day

undone dune
#

yeah but you dont gain anything from phys damage

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you want flat dex + throw damage with health or resist suffixes

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ideal on opal but any base works

elder condor
#

I see

undone dune
#

also you imprinted an inhertiance of the erased on your weaver tree and that doesn't work

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thats a boss drop

bold brook
nocturne fog
#

do people still use vial of volatile ice w acid flask and explosive trap on falconer this season?

topaz agate
#

Since we already have bladestorm and the Explosive nodes

undone dune
#

probably spin aoe?

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depends on your max skill level I guess

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steel torrent (aoe/duration) and jagged carvings look like the least important to me

late dagger
#

sheeesh

undone dune
#

its also more important for zoreine because he is/was using Ucenui's

elder condor
topaz agate
#

Kezic does increased physical damage do anything for the Melee Elemental build?

undone dune
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

topaz agate
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The minion build sorry

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The one you told me about

undone dune
#

dont ask me how falconry works

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i think it only works on global melee damage/ throwing damage / bow damage

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from this node

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i dont know of a conversion for specific elements

topaz agate
#

But I like cold umbral blades to help with the echoes

undone dune
#

increased physical is not global its just physical right?

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or does global mean somehting else

topaz agate
#

not sure if this affix actually buffs the build

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minion damage probably better

undone dune
undone dune
#

you want CDR as prio on belt anyway

undone dune
#

WTF are the diamond matrons in the arena cooking with

topaz agate
proven mulch
#

What is the best/fastest/most reliable way for a Falconer to generate shadows to maximize this node in Dive Bomb?

bold brook
proven mulch
bold brook
proven mulch
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ahh okay ty

undone dune
#

sych strike has a way to make the shadows it spawns shadowcascade

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you might be getting confused by that

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but really the answer for this build is smokebomb

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that node to gain stacking throw damage while standing in smokebomb is too strong and it leads right to the shadows in smokebomb

bold brook
#

ya smoke blades is nuts, i wish they would move some of that power out of it and put it in the skills directly, kind of like what they did with volatile reversal for sentinels

inland yacht
#

other than the obvious Red Ring, are there any uniques I should look at for this frostbite flask trap build? or should I just grab a solid Eledot or Freezerate ring

daring yew
#

kinda pog for my bleed/poison heartseeker. would prefer chance to bleed over poison but I do both so still poggers

elder condor
#

So you said I don’t want any physical damage to scale with umbral blades?

tribal lagoon
sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (14) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (71)

General:

▸ Health: 2,785, Regen: 175.5/s
▸ Mana: 141.78, Regen: 14.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 121 Dex / 16 Int / 16 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 218% / 84% / 96% / 87% / 82% / 92% / 97%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 557
▸ Dodge Chance: 27% (938)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,190)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 17%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

timber nebula
#

Your health is pretty low and Glancing Blow should be 100% if possible

daring yew
#

how do you get gb so high

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are there some rogue specific affixes I've been ignoring too much or something

timber nebula
#

Well it's more your skill tree, you get 15% form 5 skill points in rogue base tree

daring yew
#

yeah I have those

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I put 1 point in this recently which has helped a bit

timber nebula
#

Dodge to glancing blow

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Silver Shroud too is great, you will still dodge even with glancing blow converted

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Maximum Health to Endurance threshold is great too in Falconeer tree

daring yew
#

yep! just swapped to that endurance one recently

timber nebula
#

There's also the exalted highest lvl armor gives glancing blow as an implicit

daring yew
#

I'm looking to swap to null portent or core of the mountain once I'm 80. only 77 atm on this guy

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1lp with +4 heartseeker put in it should help a lot

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not sure if core or null is better tho

timber nebula
#

Foot of the mountain is pretty good too for marksman

daring yew
#

I need the bleed boots unfortunately

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I have yet to find a usable rogue helmet so ignore that slot lol....

timber nebula
#

Being alive is more dps 🫠

daring yew
#

true that

timber nebula
#

A basic crit multi exated helmet then

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You don't need the base crit chance on marksman, so easy to cap crit chance

daring yew
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I don't need crit chance at all with this build. with salt the wound the crit multi is converted to phys pen with bleed

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so I stack multi to buff my bleeds

timber nebula
#

Oh yeh

elder condor
#

Do yall feel squishy asf as a rogue

daring yew
#

I feel like I'm fighting for my life leveling in 100 corr monos rn

timber nebula
#

Somnia could be a good helmet Drew

daring yew
#

I just so happen to have a 3lp waiting to be used

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stun chance does sound really nice

lone beacon
timber nebula
#

I have 100% stun chance on my heartseeker and it does help control the mobs

daring yew
#

my main is a shield basher with like 400% stun

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it's so op

timber nebula
#

I have a cinder strike with corsair build going rn, it's pretty tanky for a rogue

lone beacon
#

It still feels weird dying to rares even if it's their nukes.. Too squishy

daring yew
#

I found this helmet in my stash. I can put this on a somnia and use it as a rogue even if it has an acolyte specific affix right?

lone beacon
daring yew
#

rip

lone beacon
#

Make a filter for Chance to bleed on bow hit

daring yew
#

ye already have one

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only just getting into emp monos on this guy tho

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just gonna use a 1lp somnia with health slammed in for now

daring yew
#

nice mechanics julra

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t4 xd

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huuuuuuge it hit

crimson latch
#

re-spec into falconer and has way more dmg, but the clear speed and mapping of hearseeker is just incredible

daring yew
#

nah

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I'll make it work

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killed normal abby with it at level 77 GigaChad

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wow the stun from somnia is already making a massive difference

elder condor
lone beacon
elder condor
#

yeah......

lone beacon
#

my falconer profile has more ehp than my VK but my VK just ignores everything and keeps erasing. Falconer needs some positioning..

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Uberoth is a joke to falconer tho

daring yew
#

my forgeguard has 85k ehp

lone beacon
#

My VK only has 30k but never gets 1 tapped due to endurance. Then gets back to full health cause I simply looked at an enemy and it died

daring yew
#

yeee

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capped endurance, crit immune, 3.2k hp, max resists, block capped

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op

lone beacon
#

Rogue gameplay still my favorite though, especially bladedancer with all the flashy stuff. I hope next season they do to Bladedancer what they did to VK.

daring yew
#

I think next season is gonna be the season of acolyte

elder condor
elder condor
daring yew
#

yeeee

frank olive
#

rogue gameplay is fun except falconer

daring yew
half nova
#

well rogue gameplay is fun but nothing does the numbers that falconer does

frank olive
#

yeah its sad i have a falconer, i wanna play multishot but everything else is just worse than falconer

inland yacht
daring yew
#

yeah

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I really hope that they fix snapshotting

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it's the only reason I haven't done much with minion builds

elder condor
elder condor
#

I want them to giga buff tf out of bladedancer pleaseeeeee

frank olive
elder condor
#

ohh I feel ya. I Feel like my macro is playing for me lol. Piano time

lone beacon
buoyant surge
#

Anyone got a planner for a fun Falconer guide for a new player. It'll be his second character

daring yew
#

"why am I doing no damage to this guy" I did a catch up shade on my alt

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that explains it LOL

frank olive
buoyant surge
frank olive
#

maxroll

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for leveling

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should be fine

buoyant surge
#

Ty

daring yew
#

might end up swapping my poison/bleed heartseeker to the cold one because I do no damage....

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over 1k stacks of both and I'm doing 50k ticks of bleed

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500 corr harbi took like 3 minutes

frank olive
#

rip

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i thought itd be decent

wary cedar
#

cold hs is way better, mainly because blue arrows fits with this drip

daring yew
#

you could prob optimize a lot more than what I'm doing and it'd be ok. but still....why bother

lone beacon
#

trying to build HS., saw Wudijo's guide but it's too tanky for SC.. What should I replace the gloves with?

thin quartz
wary cedar
#

what is sc?

daring yew
#

Softcore

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I'm assuming anyways

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Currently kicking myself for not creationing the +4 heartseeker chest i found early on....

silent relic
#

What blade dancer builds cleared uberroth? Only 3 unique clears 🫠

half nova
#

i will assume its lethal mirage or something silly

brittle sparrow
#

does this x3 the elemantal arrow damage?

terse bloom
brittle sparrow
#

24 > 72??

steady lark
#

crab rings actually alternative to red rings for ice hs?

steady lark
#

tf

steady lark
#

feels weird having no evade...

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what would u use as alternative to wall of nothing?

wary cedar
steady lark
#

XD

#

true

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i guess

wary cedar
steady lark
#

i got a null potent

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from my other chars

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saw some builds use that.

wary cedar
#

yea use what ever

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just get the +4 hs

steady lark
#

gotcha

wicked prairie
#

All I had was a +3 .. meh! 🙂

wary cedar
#

just keep playing, you will find many +4

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and you also need many for destroying to get the chards

wicked prairie
#

Are you guys matching the intelligence/attunement? Does it make a big difference?

wary cedar
#

wouldnt bother with it until you have your "final" row

wicked prairie
#

I'm not even close to done on the heartseeker.. Can't even solo Julra at T-IV, had to ask for help to slam my +3 on the void chest

wary cedar
#

i also have like at least 100hrs more to farm for hs xd

undone dune
#

i see a lot of people just not bother

wary cedar
#

redemption time 🚀

daring yew
#

gl

wary cedar
#

ya went out of runes lmao

daring yew
#

I don't think I've successfully redemptioned something yet

wary cedar
#

i once redemptioned some good boots

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but failed the slam

daring yew
#

F

wary cedar
#

and now i m farming new 1 in 3,5k lp3 boots xd

thin quartz
wary cedar
thin quartz
wary cedar
#

had similar ones, missed the movespeed 🤡

thin quartz
# thin quartz

im thinking about it.. i dont think this is worth slamming

unique path
#

thats a 4lp banger

wary cedar
thin quartz
#

i would prefer if its physical or health hybrid at least

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cold resist idol has health%.
physical resist idol is flat health / vit

wary cedar
#

imo 1 in 3,5k is rarer than getting good boots

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so go for it, maybe you find another lp3 on the way

smoky maple
#

anyone getting completely stuck while playing umbral blades falconer? im paying the dagger version if that makes a difference

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happens ALOT ALOT

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after this happens, AA and Smoke bomb basically wont fire, i cant move. Only way to fix it is to relog

terse bloom
#

5091 corr

paper leaf
#

..

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weren't them yday at 900.000.000 ?

wary cedar
daring yew
#

the scaling in terms of loot drops off a cliff after 1k

unique path
#

more like nonexistent

daring yew
#

yeah lol

robust carbon
#

For Aerial Assault: How do Tactician and Storm on the Horizon nodes interact? Tactician gives buffs "after landing" to ballistas - but Storm on the Horizion removes the moving the character part, so you don't land anymore.

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Does Tactician not work with SotH or does it still count the target area for that?

unique path
#

still works when ur animation ends

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the only node that doesnt work with storm is wind rider

daring yew
#

so if I wanted to go frostbite shackles as frost heartseeker and stack a good amount of cold res, what would be a good alternative for ward generation?

unique path
#

elecoe belt with ward conversion t7 is not a bad way

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if u also have crit multi

daring yew
#

I do have some multi

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not a whole lot atm

daring yew
#

like ward gained on potion use?

unique path
#

% of hp pot converted to ward

daring yew
#

gotcha

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364 multi atm

robust carbon
#

Shared Enhancement (Ballista): It does not specify which part of my damage they inherit. Increased, more and added? Or just increased? Or anything else? Usually it is specified, but here it is not

vale stump
#

Is getting equal Int and Attunement for Ucenui's proc worth more dps than just adding 14 dex for icicle heartseeker?

vale stump
#

Okay ty, I was basing it on Wudijos comment in his youtube guide

wicked prairie
#

Would you take 209% increased bow damage over 77% crit strike multiplier? I'm torn 🙂

thin quartz
thin quartz
daring yew
#

Just extra ward. Lowlife could be interesting tho

lone beacon
#

Imagine if this was umbral blades and applies on boss hit...

thin quartz
#

the unique crit ring. tho its nerfed but its the only crit on hit ward generation

thin quartz
daring yew
#

This one? -30% multi is an oof

thin quartz
daring yew
#

I guess 3 lp with a decent slam could be good

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Ill test it out tomorrow gn

thin quartz
#

there is new ward affix on ring as well, dont forget that

spark swan
#

For the spirits of fire blessing, is it better to go armor or dodge rating?

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The guide says armor but I have more dodge, isnt it better to go all in on dodge?

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Also is there deminishing returns for having too much dodge compared to block or armor?

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cold heartseeker btw if it matters

tame imp
#

Question: Fire and Steel passive states "Consuming and Elemental Arrow also increases the elemental damage of the attack that consumes them". So if I have a Cold-converted Heartseeker, does that gain the 200% bonus from Elemental Arrow?

thin quartz
spark swan
#

Ohhh I see okay thank you so much

thin quartz
spark swan
#

So basically from here on out im just trying to squeeze whatever armor and more crit reduction?

thin quartz
#

how i solve crit avoid is just taking blind on hit on my quiver.

spark swan
#

damn I was kinda hoping it is cause any other upgrades to my gear is 3 or 4lp with 2 or more t7 rolls

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Thank you so much for the responses btw @thin quartz <3

unique path
#

GigaChad the way i solve it is by not getting hit

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now that am playing runemaster again, having to get resist and avoidance and all that feels weird

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LOL

spark swan
#

now how do I avoid those off screen beams

thin quartz
#

MF + 1000%
All stats + 20

wary cedar
#

now you re really gaming

thin quartz
wary cedar
#

was also thinking about getting this one

#

boots grind on it again 🫡

wet bear
#

why are some people doing daggers and some doing bow + quiver on ub falconer, whats the real difference

dusky schooner
#

Talon knives (30% of dmg stats of weapons given to dive bomb) vs bow proc

glass stag
#

Anyone knows what built was used for BD to clear Uber?

lone beacon
#

lightning mirage

wary cedar
wet bear
dusky schooner
#

I didn’t say that, depends on the weapons of course. 100 flat is a lot that the bow gives.

#

Though that flat takes a bit to build up

thin quartz
wary cedar
#

so i lost everything i had xd

topaz agate
#

Is getting a 2 LP on razorfall insanely rare ?

wary cedar
soft mauve
#

anyone tried converting Detonating Arrow into cold? will the added flat from Explosive Mines get converted?

thin quartz
undone dune
#

bow damage should be adaptive I assume it woud use what ever element detonating arrow is

distant basin
#

does bleeding heart leech from bleeds applied by minions?

flint turret
#

daaaaam so close, i havent noticed the burning ground and died. the last phase is kinda easy, its hard to get there

wary cedar
#

i m not even trying

flint turret
#

im doing it on ethical build and ethical gear

scarlet citrus
terse bloom
wary cedar
#

without childwork or what

serene crane
#

dw Ragu, you kill him once and then you can easy farm him with spamming Uberroth echoes 24/7, thats how it works from what Ive seen in this chat kappa

flint turret
#

the one that takes 10+ min for uber fight

thin quartz
#

missed t6 phy res slam. if i hit that, i could have gotten another t7 dex on my boots. fk me

vocal gust
serene crane
flint turret
#

i can get more powerful because im not using neither 2lp null nor 3lp mourning nor 3lp brew nor 4lp troaka nor 4lp peak that i have, so its as ethical as it can get

flint turret
wary cedar
#

getting those juicy high lp item is the main fun for me in this game, but you do you xd

thin quartz
#

new damage tooltip. broke 90k point

quartz blade
#

Is there any way to target farm class specific affix shards? Im after level of multishot and ive found 1 shard so far..

wary cedar
steady lark
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how on earth are people playing ice without the gear? like i got some 1lp items but bro

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i am gettign 1 shot

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left and right

wary cedar
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how?

paper leaf
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Idk price O_o

wary cedar
steady lark
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in 100 corruption

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200

wary cedar
steady lark
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RANGE

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caps

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i try to dodge

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like play far a way

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but it takes like 2-3 seconds to kill shit

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i have not slammed anything on my bow yet

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only sitting on 42 dex

wary cedar
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whats your tooltip dmg?

steady lark
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7237

wary cedar
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thats the4 problem then

steady lark
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where would i start?

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i do not have a +4 chest yet.

wary cedar
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throwh everything you have for defensiv away and swap for dmg

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early on focus on dmg is better > faster clear > more items

scarlet citrus
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t7 cdr

steady lark
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i think null potent is off.

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don't need tghat

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i just ofund a +3 chest in my stash

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to hs

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LOL

wary cedar
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stack dex as much as you can

steady lark
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mhm

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i'll try to slam it on 1lp items i guess

paper leaf
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get +4 hs

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on armour

steady lark
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only got tier 6 rn

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i imprinted it tho.

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lets see

wary cedar
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what do you have on row?

steady lark
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bow?

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norhin yet

wary cedar
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ye

steady lark
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just 1 lp

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same w quiv

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1 lp

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northing slammed yet

wary cedar
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yea you need at least this

steady lark
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ah

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ok

wary cedar
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dex on bow? xd

steady lark
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i figured

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XD

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i got this one.

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should prob try to get a 2lp tho no

wary cedar
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yea perfect

steady lark
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like bow

wary cedar
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after this you ll have at least 20k tooltip dmg or so

steady lark
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mhm

wary cedar
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and 1lp slam is 100% so do this now

steady lark
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do i care about trying to get 2lp and maybe getting cold pen?

wary cedar
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no no

steady lark
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or sealing and getting crit multi?

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ok

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easy

wary cedar
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go slam this and then you can farm for lp2 /3

steady lark
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the crab rings actually lowered my dmg

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i got one 1 lp crab ring can slam smth on there as well

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ok

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first time playing cof

wary cedar
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do dex on ring

steady lark
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its actually like a new game

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holy

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hahah

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dex or movement speed on boots?

scarlet citrus
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niceee

wary cedar
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just slam dex everywhere first, other stats you can get wirh the higher lps then

steady lark
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ok

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attack speed on quiver first or dex onm tyhere as well?

wary cedar
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idk, but i think you cant get wrong with any of this two

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maybe try for both, quiver lp2 is easy to get

steady lark
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going dex

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mhm

paper leaf
flint turret
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bro for real

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he bugged out

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hes not supposed to slam in the middle

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he covered everything with it

serene crane
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That hurts...

flint turret
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last phase is really easy

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if this shit doesnt happen

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consistent 9 min fight up to this point, changed some skills, better than 11-12 yesterday

steady lark
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after slamming boots, bow, quiv

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helm sadly no 1lp yet

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do u recommend rushing omnnis?

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32 actually

wary cedar
steady lark
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XDD

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i was hard trolling

wary cedar
wary cedar
steady lark
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got t6 crit multi

wary cedar
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good enough for now i think

steady lark
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gonna use that for now

wary cedar
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if i get more runes i ll try a lp2 nihils craft

paper leaf
frank olive
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how much corr can u clear with 100k tooltip?

wary cedar
frank olive
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nice

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i would play heartseekr but that means rerolling my uber farmer

wary cedar
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where is bug report channel btw?

paper leaf
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probably i can go around 1k/1.1k but become annoying and slow to play

wary cedar
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i manually teleported out of an echo, did it again, got all the rewards at the end, but in the cementry it said no rewrds because of failed echo omegalul

frank olive
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i guess i didnt know how good i had it as a vk

scarlet citrus
serene crane
scarlet citrus
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mine has 5k health, 72% armor and like 160% movespeed

wary cedar
frank olive
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im barely 4.1

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works good enough tho

serene crane
scarlet citrus
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highest corruption I ever got was with zhp ballista last season tho

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you cant die if nothing comes close to touching you

frank olive
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hows zhp ballista this patch?

paper leaf
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omg those gloves exist, 1 pair in 4 days

scarlet citrus
frank olive
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shouldve just played cof for loot smh

scarlet citrus
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and honestly playing ballista without doing unethical damage is not that fun

paper leaf
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I want smth like this but with more dex/life/cold res/void res Xd

frank olive
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once again reminding me why i dont really want to play heartseeker

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-100 phys and cold resomegalul

paper leaf
wary cedar
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only phys tbh

frank olive
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i just dont wanna ever try fixing res

scenic mauve
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hi can someone explain why the best falconer/rogue has moved from ballista to umbral blade ?since ballista got untouched and umbral got nerfed ?