#๐ชโrogue
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i know, but it happened after i swapped some items already, it worked when i cleared the echo at first
it has been on and off for me lol
sometimes it just cant swap attributes
sometimes only between 2
if now its blocked from the start sadge
oh i see where the tankiness of pally comes from
its from vengeance actually
26% DR is pretty massive yeah
I think the last patch should have fixed some loot fitler settings for uniques and whatever else... the last time Ive tried "recolor: uniques: min. WW: XX" it for whatever reason kept recoloring non-WW uniques ๐
I change filter yesterday got lazy :<
seems fixed
Finally bro can also make it so I donโt gotta check every drop in prophecies
thats small. they get 60% from 100% block, 70%+ from armor. alot of that DR is applicable to dot dmg, insane regenration and cleansing, etc
not getting red rings for 3 days neitether from imprints nor from prophesies is starting to get to me tbh
yeah that was wonky. had to make extra filter for the WWs
those are not pal's exclusive
oh thats what you meant
same as vengeance but judgement build can utilize it better ig
btw does drop blessings affect imprints?
maybe i need to swap to rings
i just thought whatever im running prophesies anyway
but they refuse to drop
yeah of course, slapping a shield on anything would make them instantly few times tankier. But i guess pal also utilize that better
natural shield support and DOT build doesnt lose that much dps from using shield
those kind of stuff
Is there a way that I can see the Wing Burst and Falcon strikes ability and their damage output? Very frustrating that neither of their damage numbers come up when looking at the ability/node
what are some sources of DOT mitigation?
like you said, not every build can just slap a shield on and stack block/armor like this and not lose dmg
makes sense. i'm seeing it now
and you get a ton of resists with aura, which frees up affixes/idol slots
im coming from arena angle and i think some of pal's biggest advantage wont help him much there
so my standard woule be a little bit different from others
I think I'm done-ish with the cycle. They added great QOL, esp the weaver echos/weaver tree. The endgame grind is more or less the same though, still don't like having to grind COF before it comes online, and bugged abilities (still) are frustrating when you plan a build around them.
this node still not working forced me to change my planning dramatically. Also the aerial movement bug...yeah.
it works with birds not real no?
only for the main bird
what
You get 3 dusk shroud
i tried it before 1.2 it worked
it doesnt work for all of them
i was getting 15+
Mine didn't - and everyone i asked was only getting 3. They were all getting most of their shroud from stacked smoke bombs
Not to mention, being forced into that node nerfs my damage
how the hell umbral falconers stack their 50 ds tho?
No idea, overlapping smokes?
2 smokes max
3 from every dive
i don't see why the non-main birds don't generate any
i'd expect 24 from every dive bomb i did, and never go passed 9 (Which are all from smoke)
okay im not insane it works
is this like last 2 cycles where my main dive didn't do damage and yours did? ๐
why am i always on the bugged end of the stick
Do you know If that works now? I had 4 separate rules...
- to hide uniqus with WW lower than 14
- to recolor uniques with WW higher than 20+
- to recolor 3LP uniques
- to recolor 4LP uniques
...3+4LP rule was fine, but the ones for WW were acting weird af
1 dive
But it only works with birds arent real? I could change up - i dont necessarily need my main dive for clear
See - but why. Seems like a bug to need that
dunno if bug or intended but it worked like thos since forever
made me log in on my old falconer 
after your message i thoght that they broke it even further in 1.2
i guess it's not total loss if main bird doesn't dive. It'd be able to use falcon strikes or featherstorm
and it doesnt make any sense of it doesnt work because everyone is playing umbral aa with it
Ragu - people use a lot of skills/stats because they see other people do it, without knowing they don't work. That's not a good call of judgment ๐
bird is one of least intuitive scaling abilities in the game.
i dont necessarily agree. i was saying pre 1.2 that they are not nerfing one of the most broken falconer builds at all. this shit was clearing 10k corr and all they are doing is reducing 30dex for+2 to 20 dex per1 which is negligible. and it was obvious that everyone will jump it instead of minion\ballista
because its just that broken
no we don't take flock of crows
but w/e
Being overtuned doesn't necessarily mean every skill / talent works
kekw at those builds then
i see a lot of falconers take no-traversal aerial, yet take the dodge while traversing with aerial buff
Do you have an aspirational planner for lethal mirage? I've got a lot of gold to dump and would like to try it out
i could but i think some people are ahead of me
im dropping an updated guide later today
Any idea where I could find one with gear that is considered bis please? My rogue is currently butt naked awaiting items ๐
play is a good start
(its level 100)
running blade master is dark alllies worth running on sync strike for 2 extra shadows but 100% increased mana cost?
i did one for last season but you could get more dmg
I was losing too much mana when i ran that node on sync strike, need some serious mana fixing if you want to run it
usually yes, but might not be the best idea during leveling
im on 100 corruption maps atm and yeah the mana is just annoying asf
no worries thx!
its not too big of an issue but still exists
Just play without it imo
max mana blessing from lagon helps with that a bit
I noticed you're running julras and not penumbras, why is that?
yeah maybe dont run it till i get max mana blessing
penumbra is for shadow daggers
And you're not spamming lethal mirage you are waiting to proc with dash first
Aren't shadow daggers a big part of your dps in the lethal mirage setup?
i do dmg with the attack itself so you need to get the sadows out
i do 0 dmg with shadow daggers
it is a diff build
havent tried that one so no idea
faIR
i just do my thing
respect it, ill do some digigng around, cheers!
Is crystalwind quiver good for heart seeker build?
It doesnt work for me either. I get no stacks from divebomb shadows.
Could you paste your divebomb tree? maybe we take something that interferes with dusk generation
yes
Is this worth grinding for heart seeker build?
no
no
go for the troaka's teeth
you're gonna be mainly building cold damage for the end game heartseeker
or phase point for dodge
is this fine for talon? or do you guys prefer the one with attack speed and crit?
ye the flat crit from hybrid is pretty massive
it with peak will just provide insane amounts
can i still chjange this or it wont roll anymore? im pretty new to the game sorry
u need to be a 100% crit chance
alright thank you
tangled lazers had to be designed by a poe2 dev
what is good shit to put on rings for UB without traps
is flat throw still the way or dex
does the throw reduced cost contribute to anything without trap
dex
Whats the smoothest falconer build, got my VK to 100
need something to play for ๐
umbral blades are pretty nice
Has anyone made guide except for the one in maxroll
tbh no idea ๐
if u played vk why not trying something offmeta instead of falc
I have never played falconer before
valid
you can just take maxroll guide and replace traps with falconry
and ring slam with dex
remove cold for phys
you think phys better?
yes
curious
phys is best for rogue imo
its way too peaceful, going back on a falconer is more akin to visiting a drug den after rehab
Does anyone have a solid planner i could follow
Could someone give me some advice on my build? I just got into Empowered monos and I keep getting nuked. Other than going to easier content and grinding, is there anything I'm missing for survivablity? I'm getting nuked by damage I have resistance capped against (fire)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BMgPOLnA
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1
Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (5)
โธ Health: 1,670, Regen: 46.59/s
โธ Mana: 119.28, Regen: 8/s
โธ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 1 Str / 68 Dex / 1 Int / 8 Att / 1 Vit
โธ Resistances: 103% / 51% / 27% / 155% / 92% / 85% / 49%
โธ Endurance: 24%, Threshold: 334
โธ Dodge Chance: 59% (2279)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 19% (595)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 56%
โธ Crit Avoidance: 95%
take juse one : https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Br6JvyNB
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (61)
โธ Health: 3,447, Regen: 143.64/s
โธ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 11.84/s
โธ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 19 Str / 214 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 38 Vit
โธ Resistances: 90% / 90% / 90% / 95% / 99% / 90% / 95%
โธ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 689
โธ Dodge Chance: 66% (3225)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,119)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
โธ Crit Avoidance: 5%
Thanks
blade dancer is fun , you just spiral around and duplicate yourself
i am making a rogue thinking of playing heartseeker till it falls off and then switching to falconer
ive never tried either yet
wouldd buy them all
always played with it from bd early days to today bird sht
it seems the build scales dive bomb from blades? or am i missing something?
makes me sad that this type of unoptimized build that does neither minion or umbrals well clears everything so easily
best rogue skill w sync strikes
time to jump in man
do we know when aerial assault targetting bug might be fixed?
make the 2.0
did they fix legendaries not working on imprint?
ya the thing about falconer is it doesnt feel like rogue to me in the bit ive tried it
Just as Blizzard intended for Di-... wait 
like i dont want the idea of the bird fr
I was like u
bd in 1.0 while falc was destroying everything
Im otp rogue in every rpg type of game
but here the bird archetype is too strong
and the fact that it still use smoke bomb / umbral blade is enough for me to stick w it
im trying bow or bird now but probably bow first
Anyone getting stuck with smoke bomb since patch a lot more than the old aerial assault stuck in the ground bug
hs is the new coolest now
im gonna
I started w it, skill is so cool to use
eventually swap if boref later, but give hs a shot
ive been hype to try it
for paladin is the other choice i have to make if i wanna do vk or pure paladin
no
i dont usually do strength but i like the aesthetic of them being gold and void
does hs have corr push potential
it got its own potential and scale of thing
hs is the pinnacle of how to do a new skill tbh super flexible, fun and balanced
dont compare to op sht
atm hs wont compete with top end corrupt builds
but its still very fun
the only thing i dont like regarding hs and all ethical builds in general is the uber aberroth power level. either it should be lower for different builds to clear it in pre-bis gear, or keep it super hard and remove huge outliners like sent or falconer
so either most farm it or none do
yeah uber is wild challenge for the non OP builds
yeah endgame tuning isnt helping build diversity
had it happen like 4 tiems in my last 5 echos D:
i think its meant to be challenging too. just doesnt help having things like judgement exist
i dont mind it being challenging, but sent and falconer make him a joke
its both too hard for non-op build and too trivial for op ones
there is an in-between to find
fr
maybe some other broken builds too, im not really aware of other classes
yeah minions snapshots are the worst
i both love and hate le devs. they either do super cool stuff, or refuse to fix bugs\broken stuff
why cant it be both
i understand they have priorities and really wanted 1.2 out. but shit like snapshotting just breaking the game is eh
the work they put in making hs good is perfectly visible. shaving a tiny bit of razorfall scaling and calling it a day, is a clear example of negligence tho
the recent interest for the game didn't help with that, now its minmax culture everywhere, if u don't think about everything before, they will exploit
also it makes no sense for me why did they have to murder blast rain DA for mm
and then they just gigabuff sentinel
it vas a valid not broken build, now its just not working at all
erasing strike doing so much dmg that if you get some stun chance you perma stun uber
Whats the time kill on Uberroth for sentinel? ๐ Is it also same-ish braindead gameplay as falconer there? ๐
ive heard its 30s for erasing
depends on which meta build you use
more or less
minions build snapshotting are few seconds kills too
stormcrows is like 3x the dps of erasing strike ye
jesus christ
Oof... then you know something is wrong and Uberroth isnt exactly the biggest issue ๐
I never actually tried, but can you use a different class item for legendary potential? e.g. a unique helm + a mage helm? will there be a class requirement or anything?
its not ethical at all, even if there are bigger problems
ive yet to see the kill time on a decent umbral falconer who knows what hes doing
vets are too hipsters to play the build, so it wont happen
they need to play "their" build
cause they know everything better than others
lmao
JUSE has 1min kill no?
he linked it here just yesterday
He doesnt count juse apparently
and erasing is def not 30sec
thats exactly why im saying what i said
i dont get it
aint nothing is doing 30 sec
๐ค
now imagine how poe1 players felt when tornado shot was meta for 5 years+
the thing is you put this on a world splitter
and erasing strike will just stun the uber out of abilities
you mean how redditors felt
thats build has neither good dive bomb scaling nor umbral scaling
ye
JUSE has some pretty sick gear... but even falcs with like 1/4 // 1/3 of his gear are probably doing Uberroth in like 2-3min max?
Cause I miss TS everytime I go back to play
same
for him juse is a fresh guy surfing on one op build and highlighting it the "wrong" way cause vets knows better the class
some hipster sht
basicallyu
Yeah, but juse was doing it on explosive trap season 1
good news, new build is rising up, TS mines deadeye
like hes been around
he is not at Ragu level
He did yeah
need more ego pump
that's what confusing me
Its a weird thing especially not knowing juse and acting like he hasnt been falconer pushign since day one ;x
u all make me laugh ty guys
i wouldnt go that far bashing it, its still a decently thought out build
How far are people pushing their cold HS in corruption? Out of curiosity
I am being purely sarcastic tho
its the same in every game
ppl ego ffs
me being sarcastic got called me toxic multiple times here, so im just clarifying things 
Just tell me what you'd do better instead of talking about allt he other creators that dont understand it well enough by your defintion
amarkov got over 1k, no idea about others here
ikr, Im known for being called toxic ๐ฆ
ppl are too serious
from JUSE video i saw yesterday
and entitled
the 1 min kill was even suboptimal if i get it correctly
I dont like the bow play, dont think its needed dagger dive bomb prob still better
I'm pushing 500 atm on mine, with kinda crap gear I think.
his dusk shroud stack was constantly under 15
Razor procs with umbral are enough for the resets
and if nothing has changed im very sure those can be much higher
like 40 or something
The nest mace + dagger offhand with the dw dive bomb trait prob lets you drop peak
etcetc
there is for sure way of improvement
cold HS doesnt have mana issues right?
but its what make that type of game good uh
maybe i just go that, one button to mainly do dam and no worries of mana xd
u can use puncture with the 4 mana points to regen if needed tho
chill gameplay
it is
I see what u did here
It is chill, just gotta watch out for 1-shots
then troaka sounds more appealing
It does, I am using it paired with the unique quiver
both plays with troaka
just one cold dmg mourningfrost and the other the frostbite boots + gloves
mine is with phase point 
i was also considering phase for the dodge, but if it can consistently freeze, then committing to that could be cool
yeah ig phase point is good def option
Ah, I'm using mourningfrost, and trying to farm ravenous
Got my first red ring last night, so I'm waiting for imprint to proc for a second one
Im not sure If I'd call the Heartseeker with WASD gameplay "chill" 
u all running with red rings makes me so sad
What rings do you run with?
its top tiers chill man, u run around and circle ur cursor holding a single ability
i mean yeah, i play bow builds in every arpg. its not exatcly "chill"
but at the same it is
Tbh, the only real reason to run red rings is for the defense layer yeah?
u blow everything offscreen low corrupt
all the movement and kiting is just muscle memory
depends of ur build, attrib stacking can be huge dps
so is mourningfrost or snowdrift better for HS?
but ye
2 diff builds
sad because you dont have them or?
ye
Yeah, but with mourningfrost, pure dex stacking is better than omni stacking
i do like using red rings as "lazy" res fix
The 10% reduced damage taken is real nice.
mourning frost = dex cold dmg stacking
snowdrift = dot stacking and frostbite/freeze with frostbite gloves
2-3lp crab is better than rr no lp tbh
Funny enough, mine actually broke my res in some fields lol, particularly cold res
i mean yeah, with mourn res are kinda ass
funnily enough i sold multiple 3lp crabs for 40m+ last cycle
Orly
but new giga idols help
when red rings were 10-15
and as far as build strength are they about the same?
id say higher corrupt freeze mult setup is safier
appreciate it
12 more stats, 15% more movespeed, 30% more armor and 2lp vs 15-20 all res, dodge and mana regen
What about the stat offset from RoW, do you guys fill the missing +int for ucenui's?
15-20 all res is easily overcomed with 2lps
Yeah, that does seem pretty dang nice
no u swap bow for boss, the one stacking 50% atck speed, and it let u align attribs for ucenui for bosses
else u dont care
I did not know people do a bow swap. Interesting.
I think i have a 3LP of that one.
Yeah, makes sense
@terse bloom yo sorry for bothering you, what do you think of Immortal vise vs blood root for mainly corruption pushing/farming
2lp vise
is it really worth it tho?
I was sceptical till I tried
I crafted one with hybrid t5 and t7 atck speed
holy
its op
Its a big cold damage boost from ucueni's since you get 3 orbs instead of 1 at a time
especially on frostbite
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
i need an ucenui to use it anyway
i dont have a cecent slammed ucenui yet
so when using ROW do we still use ucenui?
yes
yes
yes
I got a decent 2LP one slammed, I have a 3LP ucueni waiting in the wings for a good slam
ucenui is bis in most cases
probably i wont be using bow anyway because i would match int with row
i do
i wonder how usable shadow string build/shadows would be with hs
but u are built different Ragu
maybe a buff for the meme-ish build
u know it
yeah idd
So, if you do match int, you get the boost all the time rather than just in bosses
if u can afford matching cause ur gear start to be more or less definitive, its a thing
yes arros
just 3lp ucenui with t6 int
but I wont bother if u juist start
and bam
How does this play out in endgame? need numlock or just smash buttons?
better with numlock
u can mash
not really an issue, getting ucenuis is not that hard
but I wont heal u
and you wont be changing row everyday
true
numlock everything except smoke i guess?
u can even numlock smoke when u reach low cd
lol
Ok, why is the rule 20 recoloring non-WW uniques...???
poorly done (game side), try to filter by checking only WW items
now its possible
What about belts, what do you guys roll with for hs?
Nothing else is there tho ๐
dunno if u can put negative value in LP and if it could do anything
and when I set it to 4LP (and recolor actual 4LPs in later rule above) is starts hiding WW items 
spending all favor and imprints on red rings and not getting a second one with lp really hit my progress hard. i have couple of 3lp ucenui, 3lp peaks, 3lp paws gloves, 2lp mourningfrosts, 1lp phase points, 1 lp nihilises and i cant start using any of them before i get rr with lp
yeah.. add condition, unique, and check every single WW items :/
ur rule should work imo
because i either dont have good exalts or i cant swap gear because of res
smhow it doesnt
I still dunno what to thing about imprinting ultra rare uniques
guess better than nothing if u dont need anything else
prolly reselling
from drops
You're using stormhide paws for your glove, just for the attribute and cold damage?
i got 2 im cof spending all favor on them
they are common so can be good with lot of lp
im not using them yet but i really want to, it fixes cold res and gives a bit of damage
Hmmm, fair enough. I have a 2 or 3 LP sitting around of those lol.
i want ravs even more but i cant get past rr dono wall so paws it is
If I check item type that exists for WW items, that works... buuut as long as there is non-WW item type that also exists as WW item, it still recolors it ๐ I guess its just broken
same for other good common uniques tho
check all ur 3lp in general
can be an upgrade
Yeah anything 3+ I scoop and stash
yeah those are great too, and riverband
I never think to look at less popular uniques that could be upgraded.
With enough LP anything is on the table
crab one love
I need the dodge
im used to not having it, not an issue really
I need to get stuff slammed with more res so I can take the crit avoidance blessing, I'm pushing 500 corrupt with only 35% crit avoidance
Whats ur take on shuriken guys I feel like lightning is mandatory all affixes flat dmg with lightning seems broken
20% movespeed ofsets not having evade
would be huge with elecoe or brewmaster belt for hybrid ward
Yeah i got a nice brewmaster with a double health slam on it. Have a 3 LP waiting for something good too
u can go for Omnis if u want an ez res fix too
solves a lot of res issue
stacking crit multi
no hybrid? im shocked
yeah, sucks
was an early slam, not using it anymore
yeah this belt is op
yea actually insane
help
beamed
I got skill issue
Well she usually says "dodge this!" and she isnt joking ๐ฆ
these are dogshit now even with 4 lp right
good for UB flac
falc*
as def layer
waiting rr
even if its griefing ur crit mult
even for hs it can help
well well... time to stash it and probably never use it
ive considered using rhose just for the +2 crit lol
yeah for 1.7 when FM will be meta
soon
which one should i slam for better scaling?
right one is best
hehe, sorry. Was talking about which of the exalts to use
dex
id say dex>all
Esp if using mourningfrost
Oh.
same sht
I'm hovering right around 100 myself.
im 139 and still missing some slots
how much total throwing damage do you have?
I think 160 is possible. Sitting on 80 with only 16 from slots
more with RR
negative 20
102
so can you calculate how much increase will it get you if you add 31-37 to it?
the thing is, that 16 dex would be a break point of 100 dex for me, so no idea if less blades but 37 more powerful will be better than extra blade?
cdr?

I still havent read my abilities
too busy zooming
teach me while u circle around the same rare mob for 40sec pls
fulcoker in a nutshell
ahahah
With the umbral blades falc can I run 300 corruption without legendary items? I have every unique I'm just not finding my exalts ๐ฆ
im clearing 500 corr as an average ethical build and no 40s per rare tho
bro icant with this questions
i did 1000 corr in a yellow 0lp falconer
without a monitor
with his eyes closed
its actually possible i believe
with decent gear
you know roughly where the boss is
in arena defo
and umbrals autoaim
Just found one too, do you want it? ๐
1 cycle too late
4 times per second xD
while sentinel just spam one spell and get 4k ward every sec
they didnt nerf soulgambler tho
i got 2x of those as 4lp lol
FCK TANGLED LAZERS
lol
big
big indeed, but brew....
according to Her design, thank you Woven Goddess or whoever she is
someone has been swayed by the brewmaster, i can't deny how good that belt is
u need to think about defense when mobs doesnt die
i never used jungle so im not swayed. i dropped 3lp jungle in 1.0 almost at the beginning and never used it
then the belt's existence must be a blessing LOL
does the new amulet make minion boosting more interesting ?
mostly because i havent found t7 hybrid, but still
guys for the item slots from woven tree
it's better ton insert legendary potential / already legendary with good affixes or they have 0 differences we just loot the same "Item" ?
like with this, I would love jungle belt tbh
no difference
thx again ๐
only thing that matter is the LPL, how common the unique is
Perfect noted !
@spark burrow Any tips what rings to use before RR on the build
I got a 3LP brewmaster on my first brewery run, just waiting for a good exalted to slam on it
third eye is u need survivability, else any exalts with dex throwing dmg
Thanks
Uber Abby down + 1.6k corruption down speedfarming:
https://youtu.be/fz-0QiQmqIU
Gonna push to 2k and thats gonna be it for the season.
does it mean less necrotic dmg taken on me and more cold dmg taken on enemies?
is this useful for some build guy?
u take less necro, u take more cold from ennemy
i still on sd build
@flint turret 1LPs ready for turtle 
I think it's a stupidly op amulet designed specifically for a minion falconer which was totally uncalled for
Which amulet?
Yeah I'm doing the same. Any luck with 3lp ones?
tomb one
I have tons of 2lp but no 3lp so far
"i need to turtle my crabs" pure LE sht
I should have at least one... but I havent threw those 1LPs to turtle yet ๐
3lp is 1in 517
Any flurry builds out thier? Got a t7 level to flurry and I know it got buffed
Is that rate increased by doing turtle at higher corruption?
no its the chance to get it like this when it drops
but it give a reference to know how common it is
Gotcha. I wasn't sure if rarity effected the rates that LP rolls
should be easier to turtle common ones
jfc my Orobyss echo invader got that necrotic laser AND he was teleporting around
scary sh!t
it does in the sense that u will see it more often so u will roll those probabilities more often
That's fair.
but it doesnt change it
It makes more rolls but doesn't effect the odds of the rolls
anyone scaling fire damage here for heartseeker? or is it pretty much ice conversion with the old mourningfrost/reign of winter the way everyone is playing?
done the whole ice thing last season and what hoping to work Dragonsong with Burning Daggers, but the scaling's been tough...
I have no idea but it shouldn't I think
Can't rule out bugs tho
oh
when did they add unique filtering
this is sick
i had invidual lines oldschool style
4 days I had Oro ambush specced haven't seen 1
I am gonna try and scale both...by scaling elemental damage but also using mourningfrost and burning dagger node
the shade invasion is very rare
the burning dagger is close to 80flat
seen like 2 or 3 since launch
Have anyone here tried both the heartseeker and multishot maxroll builds. Currently playing HS and doing fine damage wise but im a multishot fan. Scared to swap if it underperforms. Any advice?
has any1 theorycrafted a melee detonating arrow build
I don't get how maxroll's clear is with no puncture
I think you're just very unlucky with it ๐ and ffs I forgot to check If I actually got Gaze from it or not
and not RoW
anyone can show their hs dmg ?
There is a varient on maxroll
What lvl are u
87
Maybe, but it shouldn't be even remotely that rare imo anyway
Nah fire
@nova osprey mine is 22k tooltip dps but I find the cold heartseeker low on damage..atleast very inconsistent
all the uniques are tied to mostly elementals
buffs or no buffs?
no buffs..in town
Guys , did anyone try play hearthseeker with "Dark Quiver" ? The Dragonsong build doesnt use a unique quiver and I feel like Phase point could be insane
Yeah definitely... and it doesnt say anything about giving Gaze, which I think still should, buuuut it should also work with this node at bottom-left ๐ค
me
I thought about it because armor shred works better for phys, but giving up ucenui and row feels a bit meh
but my hs build is with shadows
Any acid flask enjoyers in the chat?
how is frostbite hs vs crit row hs? im thinking of swapping to frostbite since dropping mourning frost would be nice for survivability
And a lot of your damage is still cold anyway with mourningfrost
That version is with Bleed right? shadow one?
what is crit row hs ?
reign of winter
I wonder how much dps the burning daggers do . I feel like not that much is lost when not using them
i see
Is it proccing anything ?
it does look cool i hope we get another unique bow thats on physical side . or if u guys got any idea tell me thanks
Hi guys, i'm searching for the best build on rogue, can anyone help pls ?
I think it's mostly Hearthseeker proccing both daggers and dragonsong crits. And the daggers shoot out basically giving you crits much much more often
But Cinderstrike is currently only giving it 250% more dmg And I feel like it's doing about a 10% of the hearthseeker dmg
So I wonder how much dark quiver would add to it
As it's not just a single hit build but more so a spam hearthseeker build
For me rn as dragonsong it deals 9k dps, which is not bad
I'm right now at Training Dummy. The Daggers do about as much as the Heartseeker itself
9k on tolltip?
yes
i see
Dragonsong aswel
is this with buffs or no ?
What's your time to kill for Abby? From him standing up to the death
No buffs
I don't think i've done him yet, just doing monos rn, farming blessings
I am at 160 corruption rn
Ah nwm then
so sad that hs is tied to cold or fire . i dont like elemental stuffs unless its lightning
my tree currently any tips ?
Yea I love the jelkhors melee lightning build but I never managed to make it work
Deals nice aoe damage, but ST is lacking and tankiness is non existant
There is just no decent source of phys bow flat in the game tbh
It's either cold or void or fire
yea sadly . i hate those kek
This is what I'd go for if I were physical
Prob need the 3lp + tho
yea i was thinking that bro but is the lightning dmg gonna help me ?
No but the attack speed goes INsane
Tested a bit on the Dummy , I think the burning dagger is mostly for clearing thrash and proccing the dragonsong more often
Does about the same as hearthseeker hitting once
It doesn't do bad damage, but yeah its mainly for proccing dragonsong
Does anyone know if this one works even without the skill on the bar?
It should I think
Because I'm currently using this And I have a feeling in the fire build it doesn't add all that much
The dodge rating I would really benefit from aswel
I'll update you guys when I've found a 1 lp version XD
I just read somewhere that dodge is actually pretty shit stat, idk if thats true
I myself am stacking a decent amount tho haha
I think the problem mainly is that rogue doesnt have much other options
I'm doing health % and dodge atm
and so far doing aberoth i'm dodging a shit ton of stuff
i reach about 70% with smoke bomb + black quiver and evades its pretty dodge
dusk shroud is pretty cool
Anyone? Unsure if people actually play multishot
I saw some vids on multi shot , and as a former D3 player I feel like there with the discipline set it looked alot more fun
Feels more like a shotgun here
Did anyone test if Bonepiercer (Heartseeker node) converts to More Throwing damage with Ravager's Dart?
Nothing changed much for multi shot. Good clear good single target since it shotguns. Con: you have to be melee range for huge single target damage
same goes for fire heartseeker
I've been using fire heartseeker and done aberoth and am currently on 600 corruption
and I'm still missing good rings and gloves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTFsz0redII
Has anyone tried something like this before ?
It looks fun
Yeah like Gekkou said, fire hs also needs melee range but i think the clear for multishot might be better.
Mine
Im EXTREMELY squishy but i know where my problems are. How much hp do u have?
Or can i see your defenses?
100%. clear wise you can kill off screen.
I think ill just start getting the gear ready and see.
Idk how can i check dps? on the HS skill you mean?
No i asked for hp and defenses ๐
Oh yeah mb
Im
cooking
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdebY7eB am I cooking in the right direction tho
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1
Rogue (23) / Bladedancer (31) / Marksman (33) / Falconer (26)
โธ Health: 1,889, Regen: 20/s
โธ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8/s
โธ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 1 Str / 105 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
โธ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 65% / 0% / 0% / 1% / 6%
โธ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 661
โธ Dodge Chance: 62% (2777)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 14% (418)
โธ Block Chance: 70%, Mitigation: 41% (1,356)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
โธ Crit Avoidance: 95%
I feel like I need some more crit but I kinda like the principle
Ohh dang that's quite a bit different xd
meanwhile me praying to dodge hopefully
But right off the bet I can see you outcapped a ton of res
XD
i reach 70% with dusk shroud tho
Yeah my two rings are fire res base so trying to repalce
My dex looks terrible for something that would get dmg pen from dex 
Hmmm not using unique rings until i get red rings yeah but also same belt. Just have to slam hp on
This one fixed all my resistences , but having to drink a potion often kills the fun at 600+ corruption xd
Damn i must be playing the game wrong. Almost all my suffixes are res, I'm at like 75% all except 3 of them at 70% but I only have 1.6k life farming 350 corrupt
Thats a good idea. Thanks for that. I guess losing one mana regen stat wont hurt
Can't finish the 10 harbi echo because one hit = death. I guess I have to farm more items for the same prefixes but way more life
I see i have two with 2LP each ๐
Just make sure you only put 1 out of 3 on the dagger node and you'll be fine
thats mostly due to the harbi one being severly overtuned
if you add 2k life to that you might still get 1shot
its dodge or die for most
Sorry what dagger node?
i simply outdps it because its hard to outsustain it at all
yeah i think the farthest i got was like 6 of them killed, if i get unlucky with dodge it's over
but on some bad prior nodes with a lot of speed, they usually still get a shot to kill me if i dont dodge. they are crazy bursty.
even at 400-500 corr they felt a LOT more spikey than abberoth (non uber)
and starting 800 i skipped them
didnt run them anymore
@flint turret black blade's cdr is just the base cooldown *0.76^12, right? i.e a 10 second cooldown is reduced to 0.371 seconds assuming all 12 land instantly? Someone posted a vid saying it could fully restore the cooldown with 4 hits and I'm positive that's not how it works
No it's remaining CD each hit
But it's possible to restore it almost instantly yes, because lm itself is not instant
With 4 hits I don't think so tbh
I'd gladly see a vid, maybe it changed somehow
nah... ๐
Where do I need to go to change the item stats from VIT to DEX?
Cant change vit afaik
str/dex/int/atu
ohhh
but where xD
Thank you!
Well it's not really instant, is it
Should help a bit ty
And it's not 4 hits either
No ๐ the black blade says "X% of "LM's remaining cooldown"
Oh daamn wtf u had a double T7 saved up to slam XD
I've been looking for ages for a good ring
lol yeah i thought so
Also adds 44% fire dmg!
that video is hard to watch but he's new so its ok
Yeah i had one and then after crafting i used that one rune to duplicate it
Any vid on HS build beating uber abberoth?
I have a feeling it won't be easy. Maybe with super duper insane gear
Yeah Ive watched it today and he even says Umbral's Lethal Darkness (SD on Umbral hit while using dagger) works while playing with Black Blade (technically its a very long dagger, but sadly no... ๐

can i remove this ? and make it into lp ? this is from nemesis buff and i dont like it
@spark burrow Thanks for the tip, build clears really well!
If you put it on the weaver tree , it can drop with 1
what is consensus about umbral blades? physical or cold?
i see i mean now i put red rings kekw
but i guess i can target farm it better okok sir
How did you find the first one? I'm like atleast 500+ ascendance into rings and also been doing the ring time line for ages
someone remind me again, this stuff only coutns if you actually ahve that as your mastery, right?
Nope, in the machine for unique rerolls you can:
- sacrifice another Crystalwind you dont want to reroll the range (range of ALL rolalble stats)
- use this (legendary) Crystalwind to reroll 1LP (or less)
i just found it at 100 corruption i think. it was yesterday and i was like oh a ring and then it was red ring
ye
does it need the same crystal wind tier like unique or legendary ?to be rerolled
Am I doing something wrong with the rotation for umbral blades falc? I'm in 200 corruption since I dont have the exalts to slam yet and I'm doing ass for damage lol
also i am cof so i target farmed it and then got all ring phropecy and then go to the place where red rings drop
Tier of that affix? No, it technically still counts as 1LP even tho its already slammed (by Nemesis), tiers of the affixes there dont matter, just how many there are
okok nice thanks sir
omfg i finally got one
where can i slam exalted stuffs to uniques whats the place?
๐ค could you use net as a dps skill via bleed stacking
Temporal Sanctum dungeon; do it at tier 2 or higher so you have the 100% chance to slam one affix you want, the rest will be random (in case of 2LP+)
Ring prophecies for the first one from Age of Winter, then slot it into your weaver tree to get more
anyone know how this interacts with heartseeker spec'd into fire?
Ouf new big boiii
\o/
It's interact with boots ^^
You can also buff elemental arrow from lightning
poggers
word, ty
179 dex... gud damit
guys how to use search function to check the tier 7 only ?
What boots? ๐ค
can't afaik
@fast ferry mourningfrost
OK ye makes sense ๐
๐
i see thanks
Oh my gawddddd the 33% happened
T7 dodge T7 crit
The roll is terrible but i can fix that with the weaving
wow this is crazy where do u get this
damnnnn
Any recs on amulet until I manage to get Nihilis? Seems a shame to use some random exhaulted all the way through harbingers. (umbral falcon)
crazy drops
sell it to vendor
By boss you want to say orobyss ?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdebY7eB yall got ideas how I can cap the crit on burning daggers here
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1
Rogue (23) / Bladedancer (31) / Marksman (33) / Falconer (26)
โธ Health: 1,889, Regen: 20/s
โธ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8/s
โธ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
โธ Attributes: 1 Str / 105 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
โธ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 65% / 0% / 0% / 1% / 6%
โธ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 661
โธ Dodge Chance: 62% (2777)
โธ Armor Mitigation: 14% (418)
โธ Block Chance: 70%, Mitigation: 41% (1,356)
โธ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
โธ Crit Avoidance: 95%
Or timeline boss
yes what do i do with it i have 2 already
Tongue instead of shield
i rightclick nothing happens
You mean dual wield?
Yes, or bow(dragonsong)
You kill timeline boss => get (at least) one Gaze of Orobyss; then you kill Shade of Orobyss (it has its own echo with the spooky void guy) that consumes up to 4 Gazes to increase the corruption after you kill Shade
oo yeah, woo yeah
ahhhhhh okok sirs
which one do you think is better between the two?
Have no idea I think that helm sucks for burning daggers
How so
It's like 10 burning daggers per 3 seconds
isnt that okay considering youre Cinder striking in parallel?
Cinder strike is arguably the worst skill rogue has to spam
so you're not a fan of the concept, I reckon
When you could be spamming hs and have x10 times more burning daggers
Hmm
I'm not a fan of that helm pretty much yeah
i guess i figured shadows would make up for it
Hs can't consume shadows reliably
And it's still limited to 1 with helm even if it did
they did just buff both cinder strike and burning dagger so i figured that might be a take.
hmmge
Oh i meant shadows for Cinder strike
daggers
I heard these uniques were rare can anyone confirm?
If I were to focus on burning daggers I'd go either drelkor to gain mana on attack with hs to sustain or mountain boots to do the same
did they still not fix the bug that only humble weaver idol shows in the prophecies
weird flex but ok
I dont think Drelkors applies
It applies to hs
Oh I see.
Makes it 0ana and you can get 20+ mana on attack with a skill with 0 manacost
eh its a different angle than I was considering, might come back to this later. Appreciate the doctoring though.
I went through all my Havocs and i still dont have donors for 4 pieces
Yeah I'd like to see that helm being put to good use, but I don't see any currently
That 1 hs limit is savage
Yes
hmm
I think it can be okay in a throwing cascade build
back to the drawing board ๐
As a passive buff for throwing damage, dusk shrouds, maybe mana gain if it works
It won't be super good
Redemptioned and Havocced, should be at least useful for some slamming ๐
Is the helmet that makes heart seeker into a throwing skill any good?
Big
My take it's below mid
hooooly, I just Nemesis'd that
I'm trying to sort out a throwing build that doesn't use umbral blades
But im not sure im crazy enough to try and use both the throwing subskills on cinder strike
Throwing cascade, chakram, flasks, traps
If HS wasn't locked behind marksman itd be better utility
What's throwing cascade
It's a cascade converted to throwing 
I have no idea what cascade is B)
A bd non exclusive skill
Oic that would be why
Hmmmm
What about net? Can you make the bleed stacking on it any good?
any coldseeker planner?
I die so much to random things as zhp balista, any veterans have tips?
@flint turret I havoced for fun since it got ward on its own... max dex and max rolled ward... hopefully the slam works out ๐
There was some shenanigans with caltrops that scale from the net tree with stacking shock, but that's pretty unconventional
It somewhat works but its def not optimal
But idk, I could also go t7 dex and t5 %inc dmg with sword... but I'd rather have a bit of extra ward sustain
Staying res, crit, endurance capped while also staying above 180 attributes is actually just impossible lol
I'd go with t7 ward
2-4 LP everywhere and still failing 
If you can use it well
Not really. Only if using mourningfrost
Well, yeah...
๐
Maybe i should've put dex on ravenous, can't equip them now without putting me under 180
I went with wall so it's tough for me yeah, I need a second rr with lp because I don't have 180nif I swap out t7dex crab
Hard to get high LP unfortunately
What's the rough chance of adding LP to an item via egg? 1 in 25? I haven't seen it yet, anyone know?
It depends on the item
Based on item level or base rarity of item drop itself? How so
Based on LP chance of the item
Ye t7 ward would be nice, buuut that would be a case for Tundra to cover the stats for 2x RR ๐
Ahh ty Dutch, appreciate
This stuff
if you "brick" an ddon't hit it, is there any way to try again to add LP that specific item?
easy just farm
Ty dutch, huge
finally lucky ! the res sucks but i'll live
If it goes legendary there is no way to reverse it, you can hold onto it to re-roll other dupes of the unique though in the unique reroll woven echo
I see that as a double win
๐ญ but it kinda surprises me how rare that ward affix seems to be, or maybe its just me idk
Which timeline you advise to spam ? Dive bomb falconer
Should i also focus on only one or try to get all the blessings first ?
I dropped 1 so far naturally but I'm collecting all t7 so whatever
Just havoc away
Imprinting t7 ward might not be a bad idea
It depends a lot on where you are progression wise. I like the last ruin for ravenous void
But those God dam red rings block every imprint and prophecies
Well it's stupid not to get them when it's a guarantee slam now
I have 1 t7dex but no second one )
never saw a single one
spamming propjhewxvies
lvl 100, all factions max, full ring prophecies
If I get crab 3lp I'll ignore second rr
nothing to do
10dr is not the end of the world
just boring when the only thing u chase never comes
I cant farm exalts and buy it here
and every 2h a random not even in emp come showing his RR
cba
Those are just outerliers tbf
But it still sucks
Have you gotten on the juiced cache strat yet?
If you imprint something with LP and then slam the item, does the imprint follow the slam or keep the LP?
I don't have ravs to imprint, and you can't imprint rings in cache
with lizards ?
never saw anything good in
spamming haunted reef with lostwood folly buffs
it's not really useful for RR but still just insane amounts of loot
Yeah I like it, was doing it from the start almost
time to farm havocs i guess sadd
also ofc definitely the way to go for ravs if you get first
That was my intention but Gaspar is not letting them go
rune prophecies in tombs/cemeteries?
worst part of farming havocs is setting up the prophesies lol
yeah
