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spark burrow
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he isnt running it

cosmic briar
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i hope my birbs will go well

lapis juniper
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Yea he doesn't take it

gentle basalt
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gloves

lapis juniper
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The gloves are ward retention only

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Isn't that a waste

spark burrow
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he isnt stacking cold res for the sake of it

lapis juniper
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Ofc db would be here

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Smh

gentle basalt
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i mean just get ward

spark burrow
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just from the freeze mult lines

cosmic briar
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sadly i am good enough to make money in new game with market, but not so good in mechanics understanding (in 3 days of playing lmao)

lapis juniper
spark burrow
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prolly some testing with thje HS node that he removed

lapis juniper
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Yea probably

spark burrow
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but capping cold res for frostbite is useless

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HS does no dmg

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just applies thousands of fb

open magnet
cosmic briar
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to be honest HS was soooo smooth to play... before 300corruption xD

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but higher is seems like it have problems with scale

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to lategame

gentle basalt
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i saw someone who said that the frozen splinter works with frostbite btw after testing it

lapis juniper
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Surely freeze multi is better here

spark burrow
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u cant go dmg over time and crit, u dont have enough stat for both

gentle basalt
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but idk how much i trust random person on yt

gentle basalt
lapis juniper
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This is a belt mod btw

spark burrow
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Dmg over time > cold pen from freeze rate ig

lapis juniper
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Idk there's no way

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You already have so much increased

gentle basalt
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i would def take freeze you have sooo much inc

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but ofc depends if frozen splinter works or not

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because if it does then you also have so much pen xd

lapis juniper
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True

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But thats 40 pen op

gentle basalt
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im also surprised noone is taking the base freeze on frostbite hs btw

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surely its worth trying to at leastfit it in, especially whn stacking so much freeze multi

lapis juniper
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True

spark burrow
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its only 80 for 4points

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and the chill is not ness

gentle basalt
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i mean you have base 40 right

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so doubling it for 2 points sounds pretty good

spark burrow
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yeah but why

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since everything is alrdy perma frozen

cosmic briar
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except bosses, who cant be frozen doesnt matter what

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😄

jaunty glen
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How viable is Ice Heartseeker in endgame?

spark burrow
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its only HS freeze, not helping with icicles or puncture

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waste of points imo, but still needs data

cosmic briar
spark burrow
odd wadi
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god i need new loot filter

cosmic briar
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i took one from guy with 2k corruption with birbs

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think he knows something XD

jaunty glen
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Hmmm interesting

odd wadi
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can ya share

gentle basalt
odd wadi
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i cba all this loot

jaunty glen
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I wasn’t full on board with Falconer gameplay

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It felt strong but clunky

spark burrow
jaunty glen
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I wanna be zoomy and comfy

spark burrow
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hs isnt the most zoomy tbf

jaunty glen
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And maybe a bit more engaged?

odd wadi
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i dont wanna play look at loot + inventory gameplay

spark burrow
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defo more engaging

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but the fact that u spam an ability slows u a lot

odd wadi
cosmic briar
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but its for trade league so be carefull

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maybe need to be fixed

odd wadi
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ok

cosmic briar
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lmao, found why i havent crit... i just forgot about blessing

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hmm... no, i have one. Can someone help?

jaunty glen
cosmic briar
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gears same, exclude 30% implicit on gloves but i have 30% more on helmet

jaunty glen
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Falconer was hella cool until you have to switch to Smoke Bomb as your traversal

hearty moon
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i think shift as a movement skill is a trap a lot of rogue players have fallen into since smoke screens been bugged for so long.

cosmic briar
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and 20% less on one of rings, but that not must be case

formal ether
hearty moon
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i can see builds where theres outright no reason to use shift

cosmic briar
hearty moon
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still using it

formal ether
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you go to character top right of last epoch tools

jaunty glen
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Levelling with my falconer was so sick then I transitioned to the end game version and really didn’t like it

hearty moon
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EX: see any non poison/bleed bow build using shift

formal ether
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and put your account and character name

hearty moon
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"Why are you doing this other than that your used to it?"

jaunty glen
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Tbh I played Erasing Strike and Umbral Blades so far and neither really hit the note I wanted to hit

spark burrow
cosmic briar
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79% crit here, but i cant catch why

jaunty glen
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Gotta figure out what to do next

spark burrow
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I hate mages but shatter strike is different

hearty moon
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any blade dancer builds open up now that smoke screen bug is fixed?

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i know dancing strikes got better

cosmic briar
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so, can anyone help? would be really nice

hearty moon
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but not sure if actually good

formal ether
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your necklace

cosmic briar
jaunty glen
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What’s it like?

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I heard it was very builder/spender

boreal bay
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Poison Pool has “spell” as a scaling tag. Does this mean you can scale poison damage applied by Poison Pool with spell damage?

spark burrow
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Tsuba

formal ether
spark burrow
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Its ur bow

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u need the flat +10% crit chance

jaunty glen
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I think I would really like Blade Dancer but the only build I’ve seen is lethal mirage

cosmic briar
spark burrow
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all ur critchance scales from here

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@cosmic briar

cosmic briar
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WTF????

spark burrow
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yes

formal ether
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lol

cosmic briar
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Roflmao wtf in game this hybrid just looks the same wording

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hellish curse

spark burrow
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no "increased"

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= flat

cosmic briar
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Thanks a lot guys, will take out 1lp bow from market now

spark burrow
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this T7 will change ur life

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ahah

cosmic briar
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ye, seems so

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time to run another time dungeon now

carmine kelp
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is this a decent drop?

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for like lvl 40 campaign

formal ether
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yea

spark burrow
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weaver will can roll up to 20 fyi

formal ether
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except the implicit

spark burrow
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15+ are big

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still a good find

formal ether
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youll get more

trim dawn
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chat are the loot lizards bait?

spark burrow
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they are

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bird > lizard

trim dawn
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im starting to feel the same way

hearty moon
trim dawn
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like I think speccing into champions is just better

hearty moon
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aka a s"stricly worse"

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situation

spark burrow
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but lizards sucks tbh

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lot of points

lapis juniper
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Isn't this really good for cold dot hs

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U have like 50% ward retention

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Base

spark burrow
lapis juniper
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Just from gloves

spark burrow
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  • abe chest ward
harsh pumice
sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 3,264, Regen: 143.64/s
▸ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 214 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 90% / 90% / 95% / 89% / 100% / 95%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 653
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2798)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,916)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

spark burrow
lapis juniper
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Which ones abe

spark burrow
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get a decent one

lapis juniper
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Oh

rough arrow
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can i swap to the peak of the mountain now? im scared w/o leech i die

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Do i need the aberoth chest?

spark burrow
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u dont need leech

lapis juniper
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Wouldn't exsang be better

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Exsanguinous

spark burrow
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it is

rough arrow
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ya, i have 1 point in that

spark burrow
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one is enough

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for falc one

hearty moon
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would dancing blades shurikens umbral blades lethal mirrage be any good

spark burrow
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"finesse them"

hearty moon
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for a smoke screen as movmenet user

spark burrow
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to sustain

hearty moon
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fixes the dancing strikes sturggles to get in problem

dusky schooner
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Lizards haven’t dropped anything notable for me

pearl forge
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i recolored champion gloves to know if +1 shadows ones dropped

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there are 0 on the market with t7 any stat

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smh

dusky schooner
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Mine are decent, just lvl 1 suffixes. But I got t7 throwing and t5 dex

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I wish they were on ascetic gloves tho

tranquil haven
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I'm having fun with poison HS, big issue I need to solve is AOE. Is proccing acid flask from idols and puncture from the HS tree enough to clear mobs, or is there a better aoe route I'm missing?

spark burrow
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puncture should be enough

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need more dmg

tranquil haven
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Just have to stack recurve chance then?

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So more punctures can fire

spark burrow
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yeah and bow dmg/crit etc

tranquil haven
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Still crit even with a poison build though?

spark burrow
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not sure, didnt played it

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but u need more of ur good stats

sullen crow
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why is taking this node replacing the puncture proc node?

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is this a bug?

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the moment i spec it, the puncture proc node gets unspecced

maiden gale
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you have the belt with +1 phys skill i bet

sullen crow
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oh shit

maiden gale
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and that makes the skill fire, not phys

sullen crow
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ur a genius

maiden gale
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i did the same thing last night with void knight lmao

cyan yacht
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Oh my god that's so trippy

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But makes perfect sense

tranquil haven
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Anyone going all in on the proc acid flask on bow hit idols?

lapis juniper
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Poison heartseeker scales with armor shred chance

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While puncture doesn't

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That's the problem

main oracle
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How hard is Uber aberoth against regular Aberoth, Im basically farming the regular atm

gentle basalt
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yea the puncture being so weak is so annoying with poison h

tranquil haven
lapis juniper
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Yea i tested poison hs for a bit

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It can def do damage

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But the clear is meh

tranquil haven
lapis juniper
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I wish the no new target node and the poison node were swapped

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So u can go poison and still get retargets

tranquil haven
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It would be too broken

lapis juniper
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I mean it wouldn't

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You'd lose out on 100% shred

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That the node gives

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But the way it is now

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If u take that node u basically have to take puncture node

gentle basalt
tranquil haven
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I really think there's an acid flask build that will solve the clear issues. I just have to farm 4 of those stupid effing idols

gentle basalt
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lol

lapis juniper
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The idol has like 3 sec cd no

gentle basalt
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yea

tranquil haven
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Really? It doesn't mention that. RIP

lapis juniper
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Just gear swap for clear xd

novel rune
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i imagine modern rogue leveling with juiced legendaries is just giga breeze

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just put t7 flat throw everywhere and even shurikens will delete everything

gentle basalt
lapis juniper
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You're also a rogue player holy

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There's no explode or anything right

tranquil haven
gentle basalt
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havent seen anything like that sadly, bad game

formal ether
grim sinew
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This is from one of the unique items I'm trying to get. Why would i get a unique Bow when doing a Set Bow echo?

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is that how it possible?

maiden gale
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its the same node

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its a single node type "unique or set bow"

grim sinew
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i see, thanks. And doing an echo with just a unique item as a reward isn't in any relation to this, i guess?

maiden gale
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no

grim sinew
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so there is no better chance to get that bow there

maiden gale
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the idea is each mono has their own specific unique type nodes

gentle basalt
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oh upgrade nice

maiden gale
grim sinew
# odd wadi asendence

I have been trying to get Talons Valor since release with Asendance runes, targeting it with CoF... everything. it's even COMMON and i have every other common bow at least 4 times

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this seems rigged against me 🙂

novel rune
serene crane
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If only I could change this to dex omegalul nice troll from Nemesis ngl

tranquil haven
lapis juniper
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💀

formal ether
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decoy bees is waiting...

tranquil haven
jaunty glen
odd wadi
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i got like 6 of them today

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but by bossing + quiver CoF / bow

lapis juniper
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I wonder if this is good

spark burrow
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if this was a relic yes

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I got it 4lp and was playing frostbite :/

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no use for it sadly

lapis juniper
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Does the more work on it

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xd

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On frostbite from it

gentle basalt
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btw i asked this before, but does anyoen know if fire and steel works with ailmnts as well?

lapis juniper
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What is that

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Idk names

spark burrow
gentle basalt
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this

formal ether
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probably not to the frostbite it inflicts

ember geyser
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Does anyone have am endgame planner for bleed hail of arrows? I'm corruption 250 and it feels like paper.

chrome sleet
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I’ve seen two heartseeker builds, using puncture or cinder strike. What’s the difference/pros/cons?

lapis juniper
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Who knows

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🙂

spark burrow
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fire version is close range and lack of survivability

chrome sleet
spark burrow
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but better single target dmg

chrome sleet
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Ah gotcha. Oh I guess puncture couldn’t proc on bosses huh

spark burrow
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no idd

grim sinew
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If you tape "increased Cold damage" in the loot filter you can only find it for idols not for armor? Is that included in "Cold damage"?

gentle basalt
# lapis juniper Who knows

its quite a lot of inc so would be nice if it worked :d but yea tooltips in this game are hard to trust

spark burrow
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but other versions can do big single target dmg still

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like bleed/poison or frostbite

hearty moon
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if you want to

chrome sleet
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Yeah I’m kind of bored of heartseekrr so far but I usually like to find something that has good ST, need to find some other builds to try out

hearty moon
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you can also use deto arrow for hit cold

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but thats a prefference thing

spark burrow
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dmg ramps up big

lapis juniper
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It's not elemental hit damage

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Or elemental damage with bows

chrome sleet
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I’ll look into it

hearty moon
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The good part about deto arrow cold is both heartseeker and deto arrow have homing so you can play off screen for that one pretty easy.

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Fire has a similar advantage

spark burrow
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even without weavers nodes lizards keeps spawning from caches ffs

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hate em

gentle basalt
wide oar
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Alright mayhaps i'm cooking up a storm, or this'll go back in the pile of burnt food, but how does
Using Clotho's needle
Net proccing Puncture
Puncture getting 150% multi from Clotho's
Scaling crit & bleed on net and puncture
Then using Salt the Wound to give your bleed a ton of pen and bleed just going infite because youre proccing
Bleed going infinite because Crimson shroud n stuff
Lastly using Dive Bomb Exsanguinating strike to pop a bunch of bleed stacks

gentle basalt
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and the quiver do not gives puncture cold tag so you should be able to spam generate them too

full hill
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On a scale of 1-10, how "spammy/high apm" are you finding your Falcon builds? They seem pretty high apm now that i'm playing it, always spamming 4+ abilities, this spec might not be for me =/ I need 1-2 button low apm

lapis juniper
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Because you generate a stack every like 0.75 seconds

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Or something

gentle basalt
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yea

lapis juniper
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Every 0.64 seconds

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Honestly

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That's free for single target too

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You don't get more than like 100%

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Attack spd

gentle basalt
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and you also get some ward gen for the glove on top

lapis juniper
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Yea

gentle basalt
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if not gathering fury

hearty moon
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Mana bow builds are so funny but also make my brain hurt.

lapis juniper
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Oh with gathering I guess yea

hearty moon
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its very hard to tell when the clear is good enough or not.

lapis juniper
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Is gathering even good btw

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Hm

gentle basalt
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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOdypMmo i was working on this for planner, but it depends on frozen splinter working and the arrows working, and i will switch to pure bleed before doin this anyway most likely from current poison

sharp ravenBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (33) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (59) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,835, Regen: 29.92/s
▸ Mana: 182.08, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 244%, Regen: 84/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 88 Dex / 16 Int / 16 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 59% / 328% / 89% / 59% / 59% / 86% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,362
▸ Dodge Chance: 54% (2174)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,361)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 91%

vocal gust
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used 11 Lightless arbor keys and didn't even get a 2 LP helm -_-

gentle basalt
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gathering sounded nice at least

gentle basalt
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and having fast puncture is also nice

vocal gust
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yeah im in CoF

gentle basalt
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for bloodthirst

spark burrow
dusky schooner
lapis juniper
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No

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But like

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Isn't this better

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How much frostbite chance do u have

gentle basalt
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well you get a lot from bloodthirst and crimson right, idk let me check

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also isnt there anythin better than cold pen

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around 900% frostbite chance

cerulean heron
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guys , can I use merchants guild on SAF?

trim dawn
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considering im barely playing, I got pretty lucky for this to be my 3rd ever neck

cerulean heron
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Thanks ,3

lapis juniper
gentle basalt
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well crimson shroud gives 150 and bloodthirst 360 right

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so thats already 500 by doing nothing

main oracle
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I dont understand how are these basic attacks still cracking me when I have 6 stacks of silver shroud?

lapis juniper
dusky schooner
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Throwing won’t do anything for dive

trim dawn
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wait does it not? I guess I need to go back and look at dive bomb scaling again lmao

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im like lvl 84 i havent played much LE since 1.0

dusky schooner
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Dive isn’t throwing

trim dawn
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despair

spark burrow
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still boost ur SD dmg aswell, but useless for the bird ye

dusky schooner
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Yeah but at that point a diff amulet prob better

spark burrow
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true

dusky schooner
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If it was crit multi, phys pen… etc diff story

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For the double blessing roll from harbinger faction, do I need to fight the harbinger or can I have it disabled for a shorter fight? I don’t need aberoth keys

spark burrow
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dont need the harb

dusky schooner
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Ok ty, been getting shit rolls -.-

spark burrow
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which mono ?

hearty moon
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also roa quiver should be reworked to just work with every ailment

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i'm sorry

spark burrow
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as long as its not Age of winter u good cba w the immune slow boss

hearty moon
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if your going to make a mandatory quiver for a skill

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you can at least make sure it does the thing right

tawny plank
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How should i proceed here, guys? removal or chaos?

dusky schooner
spark burrow
tawny plank
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hehe

spark burrow
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mbe get a 4th line before

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just t1 so its 1 / 4

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for the removal

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forging potential is so annoying

hearty moon
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honestly thats my general take on rogue uniques

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Dagger/sbows awesome

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quiver/swords

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but why?

tawny plank
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well, i have 14 FP but have 1 open prefix and 1 affix

spark burrow
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yeah typical

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and when u dont care u craft everything and ends up with 30FP

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tbh in ur case for a t7 +skill I would craft in myself from a double t7

tawny plank
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aww.. it got busted. Right side better?

spark burrow
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add the t5 +skill and havoc

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to get +skill t7

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havoc are busted

tawny plank
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what t5 skill you mean?

spark burrow
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u add +lvl heartseeker urself

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to +5

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then u havoc

tawny plank
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you cant.

weary pine
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ok, sorrys to @serene crane i was wrong with heartseeker on helm, i got it mixed up with dark quiver

spark burrow
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ofc u can

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get a double t7 with one open prefix

tawny plank
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hmm maybe i didnt have enough runes..

spark burrow
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put +5 lvl HS

tawny plank
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shards

sudden sigil
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is going for reign of winter bowmage build worth it? or its not good now?

spark burrow
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and havoc

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right one is prolly better

tawny plank
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i cant now though, its 0 fp

spark burrow
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ofc not on this one

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but to craft ur chest

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aim double t7 and not +skill only

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and craft / havoc it

tawny plank
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i see

spark burrow
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use removal on + HS everytime u got one

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bank shard

tawny plank
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can i havoc my right side armor?

spark burrow
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yes

tawny plank
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has 1 fp lol

spark burrow
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w a glyph of hope u may have multiple tries

tawny plank
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it may get worse though?

spark burrow
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yes :p

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but u got the new one in the worst case

tawny plank
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nah, i shattered

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hahahah

spark burrow
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havoc are rares early on

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prolly better

tawny plank
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ok.. i'll havoc on rares then. Leave my 1 fp alone

spark burrow
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get double useful t7 yes

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or t7 + t6

hearty moon
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oih figured out why that helms good @spark burrow your heart seeker would cost mana which doesn't work if your playing HOA properly

boreal stump
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I'm lvl 100 zhp bally

spark burrow
steady tree
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This bow good for 3LP dragonsong slam?

spark burrow
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imagine making the only unique related to one skill, related to ANOTHER one

steady tree
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Not sure how good +bow fire damage is tho

hearty moon
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i think its less a hoa problem and more a marksman has core design issues around the mana archetype.

spark burrow
tawny plank
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@spark burrow removal here?

hearty moon
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I think it'd be really clever if they changed coated blades to be

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"Skill in x skill slot."

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I should suggest that

spark burrow
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same Hisoka turn on mod range please :p

steady tree
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@spark burrow Here are my options

tawny plank
serene crane
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@flint turret just got jumped by Shade... ez prophecy 😄

spark burrow
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with the bleed suffix one

boreal stump
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I farm 1600 corruption and all bosses are ez mode except uberroth. Regular abby dies in like 15 seconds

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It's fun

spark burrow
steady tree
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@spark burrow I've seen conflicting things about fire pen vs cold pen and stuff

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Someone told me fire damage %, fire pen, flat fire dmg doesn't do much

spark locust
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guys i need help for my friend, my friend is at the point stopping playing the game lol, how do you build up defensives for rogues? i never played one so i cant help him
what looks wrong in his defensives?

steady tree
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So for my 3rd/4th affix what am I looking for past crit multi

tawny plank
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@spark burrow havoc now?

spark burrow
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ur best by far

steady tree
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@spark burrow Yea just asking about general build scaling tho

spark burrow
boreal stump
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Do it, it's fun if you're decent at mechanics

spark locust
tawny plank
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or try to seal an affix first then havoc, Gouli?

spark burrow
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I would just spam upgrade those affixs here, and pray to get everything t5, prio dex

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dex then life then the last

tawny plank
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ok

boreal stump
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Dodging and keeping up buffs plus mana

tawny plank
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No try to seal afix?

boreal stump
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If u wanna be a fast boy at least

spark burrow
tawny plank
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true

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damn, it broke on dex.

spark burrow
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u try to seal when u got a lot of FP spare cause u cant put glyph of hope if u use another glyph

boreal stump
#

I think the dude who made the guide for maxroll has gsmeplay. Binoqc or something. Otherwise I can stream here later

spark burrow
#

imagine I had HS prefix, I could ve HS t7 like this

boreal stump
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It just shuffles the tiers around

spark burrow
#

yeah

boreal stump
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Shouldn't be that confusing

spark burrow
#

Its the new best way of crafting

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can turn any double t7 into a big item just by using redemption then havoc

boreal stump
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Perf for lp1 and 2

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My redemption luck sucks 😦

hollow prism
# spark locust guys i need help for my friend, my friend is at the point stopping playing the g...

Can link the character sheet
But he can have the rogue relic that gives him chance of damage reduction per shadow, it's a common unique so it should be easy to get 2 lp and slam health + something else on it
Then if you just focus on defences on chest and belt, maybe even helmet until you can 2 lp the crit helmet, should be good.
Make sure to use the skills that give the shadow marks to have the chance to take the 35% less damage from hit and get the silver shouds too

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And health % idols

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Should hit 2k easy with just slamming health on body and relic and idols

spark burrow
hollow prism
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Then everything after that is just lp on the uniques

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There's still going to be one shot things till getting fully geared, those necrotic lizard things with the forking tongue that does the quick dash in and does 3800 damage is going to one shot even if it goes through your 35% reduction and other reductions

spark burrow
hollow prism
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But damage should be high enough to basically instant kill them, along with the nemesis and experimental mages

sly token
#

Ok Ty

spark burrow
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wtf is this

vale solar
#

anyone know how to farm stout weavers on COF cuz there is no prophecies for em

spark burrow
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t7 t7 t6 ??

spark burrow
hollow prism
hearty moon
#

I gave some feedback on the state of mana marksman @spark burrow

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what you think of potential solutions i gave?

clever tinsel
spark burrow
clever tinsel
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i swear farming belts is harder than rings

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belt prophecies suck

thin quartz
hearty moon
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I think you don't understand the point of the post.

flint furnace
#

Any high corruption rogue builds that are somewhat comparable to sentinel this season? I feel like rogue is kinda meh this season :\

spark burrow
spark burrow
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bird build

placid flame
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is there some nice rogue twink leveling guide or similar? At least a list of some gear

spark burrow
#

these nodes and u set

undone niche
#

anyone that has a good hearseeker loot filter and is willing to share, pls?

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the one on maxroll is giving me lots of garbage

spark burrow
hearty moon
#

whatchu think @spark burrow ?

spark burrow
hollow prism
hearty moon
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lol

spark burrow
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I tried to find ur post tho didnt found it

hearty moon
spark burrow
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dm me link

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thx

spark locust
clever tinsel
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these are sooo rare

undone cedar
#

guys, thoughts on 1lp ravenous void vs 2lp liraka for UB? that crit multi is hard to give up tbh

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save 1lp ravenous void for different character?

hollow prism
#

yoo you can autobomb bees with flask? has anyone ever cooked?

spark burrow
# hearty moon <#1210289045310017536>

HS needs to be unlocked for other masteries by being in the first half of the tree imo, until then garbage. For the rest its MM related and Im a BD one trick before this season, couldn t argue much

hearty moon
#

oh what do you think about how it effects blade dancer?

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ala shadow cascade and lethal mirrage.

spark burrow
#

in the current state not so much

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but I can see things being done later for the class identity

spark burrow
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Im not good for imagining things gameplay wise but I can defo tell u how does it feel and why it is wrong

hearty moon
boreal stump
hollow prism
hearty moon
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and than changing coated blades to work for bd was just a "Oh that's neat"

spark burrow
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coated blades shouldnt be at the end of the rogue tree imo

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rogues should be able to dump more mana for more damage easily just like a energy based thing

hollow prism
# spark locust outside of hp?

could do little things here and there like take points out of duration of smoke bomb and put it into rapid concealment

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but like every little thing is kinda self explanitory idk

formal ether
hollow prism
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bee the first

formal ether
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lmao

deft tusk
#

@serene crane for the SD LM build, what's the purpose of kunai belt, twilight assault, and duskhunter?

formal ether
#

theres a unique for decoy that summons bees too

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hive mind

spark burrow
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who tf wants to play with bees tho

silent relic
#

Do I have to falcon for rogue to clear uberroth

hollow prism
#

can bees do rod if they're heavily invested into?

formal ether
#

When you hit a Bee with Acid Flask, it gains Toxic Coating

spark burrow
formal ether
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Decoy releases (6 to 10) Bees when it explodes

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oops

hearty moon
formal ether
hollow prism
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Ive never thrown out anything that popped up with anything bees related ill just keep hording them and ill play them when ive tried everything ive wanted to try

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shouldnt have to farm anything hopefully cause id have passively gotten the setup

silent relic
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I'll wait for a bd to clear, the only thing ive seen so far is an autobomber falconer clear on the rogue side and I'm not interested in setting up a macro

spark burrow
earnest hull
#

They seemed to bee helping when I was leveling up but i don't know how bee damage holds up late game

spark burrow
formal ether
hollow prism
spark burrow
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we are rogues, we are shadow and edgy, wdym bees

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next unique will give us unicorns

shell siren
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i have almost all the uniques ( have boots and bow and relic and gloves and helm and chest (just missing the necklace and rings)) for bow falconer... max res level 93 i get deleted. I swap to Shadow Dagger (smoke weaver x2) with all other uniques on, max res... mowed down in empowered. when I was HS (paid 714k to swap) i was killing everything... now i dont have the money to swap back to HS and dont know why im not deleting my enemies

spark burrow
#

what corrupt lvl ?

formal ether
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theres actually bee idol affixes but sadly theyre for primalist and mage

serene crane
shell siren
spark burrow
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I swaped falconeer today from HS got zero throwing dmg on gear, just the bow and the boots and Im alrdy destroying screens

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what planner are u following

formal ether
#

next patch will buff hs :copium:

hollow prism
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rogue takes off his helmet and uncovers that he's secretly just 30,000 bees in a suit of armor

spark burrow
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if their logic is : we dont nerf, we up other, then I can see a buff coming

spark burrow
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its normal

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u are still a glass cannon class

shell siren
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HS didnt die this often

dusky schooner
#

What’s account name and char name so we can import to look at your defense?

spark burrow
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sure but u didn't reach the point where HS couldnt clear fast enough and u die cause swarmed

shell siren
#

and yet im on this build and same thing is happening at this corrupt so its weaker?

spark burrow
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HS is rlly strong early on imo

dusky schooner
#

Bc I clear pretty easily and don’t die unless I’m being dumb - but I’m not using a maxroll guide

formal ether
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maxroll more like midroll

weary quarry
#

the only thing that kills my hs marksman is the weaver mod "tangled laser" I just get 1 tapped off screen. Crit capped/res capped/like 70% dodge and 2700 hp just poof

shell siren
#

I will swap back to bow version of umbrall and then link char

weary quarry
#

I swear it has to be overtuned right lol

spark burrow
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it is

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this and the champion "crafter"

weary quarry
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yep

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scary scary

hollow prism
spark burrow
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Id stick w umbral blades ones

hollow prism
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he selects a unique ring for its 3% melee leech? even though he has 7 points in the falcon crit healing

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and a bunch of other ?

flint furnace
spark burrow
hearty moon
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I was super tempted to add @spark burrow "I can't fix multi shot for you. That skills design is so ass."

hollow prism
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oh lol ? he has 13% crit chance

spark burrow
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shadow daggers always crit, u dont need crit

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Mcfluffin do some great guides, I trust him

spark burrow
tawny plank
#

Gouli

spark burrow
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Hisoka

tawny plank
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remind me please!

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i havoc once!

spark burrow
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u did ?

tawny plank
#

HS level was t1 and health was t6/7 i think

spark burrow
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good job, landed well

tawny plank
#

what to do from here?

spark burrow
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item is good here

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u play mourning frost boots ?

tawny plank
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yea

spark burrow
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then just upgrade, start with dex

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go all t4, if plenty of FP mbe seal

tawny plank
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i could change though, its only a basic ones i have

spark burrow
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else just t5

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mourningfrost are good

shell siren
#

Account Name is Phaedin Character is Phaerraari

spark burrow
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I asked cause dex stacking is good then

shell siren
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and yes i just swapped so skills are base 12-13 etc

tawny plank
#

done, which is best now?

spark burrow
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left by far

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w mourningfrost

tawny plank
#

really? the bow damage seems so nice

spark burrow
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they are

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but so is dex

shell siren
#

also on my gear the rolls for the chest piece are really bad planning on finding new

tawny plank
#

i still dont understand how i could have got two t7 ?

spark burrow
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and +skill

dusky schooner
#

tbh idk if i'd use 0lp uniques, or 1lp like you are

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like 1lp peak kinda..bad no?

rain crest
#

So what are some options to swap to instead of umbral falconer if you don’t have the boots yet

sly token
#

is getting other class idols even possible? I havent seen one LOL

formal ether
#

yea

dusky schooner
#

actually why do you have 0 lp gear

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why dont you nemesis it

spark burrow
tawny plank
#

Gouli, to get two t7 afixxes is just havoc spam?

spark burrow
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and a free line

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then u craft ur affix and havoc

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u can't add a t7

tawny plank
#

that prefix is the same?

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i mean, you have an open prefix there?

spark burrow
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no, its not a good example

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just the only double t7 i got

sly token
tawny plank
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im confused... my armor could have gotten double t7?

next pumice
#

Hi guys ! I have maybe a stupid question but i cant be sure ...
I'm actually playing HS - Fire version dragonsong i'm actually not running with mourning frost BUT
If we use this boots does elemental dammage scale with fire and cold from the boots ?
Or it's not working cause cold dmg from boots are pure cold on hit ?

spark burrow
#

sorry if I was misleading

shell siren
tawny plank
#

i think i gotcha

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is it even worth to havoc my old armor?

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only 1 fp left

spark burrow
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i don't think so

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too much work to do on it for 1FP

spark burrow
tawny plank
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so for example, here i would add cold damage and cleanse on potion use and then havoc?

spark burrow
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ur crit is way too low

spark burrow
sly token
#

man so tempted to switch to frostbite HS, i have everything for it 😭

tawny plank
spark burrow
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@shell siren try to get 1lp on ur bow and put hybrid attack speed + base crit

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it should help a ton

shell siren
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i have 1lp on it and i will look for it, i found a 6tier hybrid but it bricked at 3 affix havent found another

spark burrow
tawny plank
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i honestly dont know how worth is cleansing, i would rather add dex and cold damage

spark burrow
tawny plank
#

on the tree?

spark burrow
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put t5 cold dmg and dex, and upgrade the hybrid life, if u can get all 3 t5 this belt will stay for a long time

spark burrow
tawny plank
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it wont let me add dex

spark burrow
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oh u cant add dex on belt

full hill
#

When was Gambler's Falacy nerfed? I must have missed this, was it S1?

tawny plank
#

yea haha

spark burrow
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thats why he takes cleansing

silent relic
#

Is this usable lol

tawny plank
#

will it get better than this?

spark burrow
silent relic
#

Yeah…

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Just felt like a crazy roll and was excited

spark burrow
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% health and hybrid health are top tier suffixs

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if u can add dmg on top of it on the belt slot then gg

tawny plank
#

cleansing it is

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or freeze rate? xd

spark burrow
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freeze rate is only good if u play frostbite version, not the standard cold

next pumice
#

Hi guys ! I have maybe a stupid question but i cant be sure ...
I'm actually playing HS - Fire version dragonsong i'm actually not running with mourning frost BUT
If we use this boots does elemental dammage scale with fire and cold from the boots ?
Or it's not working cause cold dmg from boots are pure cold on hit ?

spark burrow
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mourningfrost are still bis

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for dragonsong version

tawny plank
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ok, so here's the thing. Cold t5, cleansing t5, health t6, i COULD seal on hybrid health

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29 fp left

pallid ferry
#

My falcon nerds... does shred armor from quiver apply to umbral blades that my falcon drops? Or is it a useless stat without me self casting umbral blades

spark burrow
shell siren
#

... maybe requipping everything fixed something... blowing up screens now even at 10-12 skill points

next pumice
spark burrow
#

yes

tawny plank
spark burrow
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big, one mistake tho

shell siren
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mana sustain with autobombard?

spark burrow
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I would ve put hybrid health at least T3 before trying to seal

tawny plank
#

i knew it!

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damn

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ahha

spark burrow
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🙂

tawny plank
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i thought about it, but well..

spark burrow
spark burrow
tawny plank
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yeah.. im learning how to craft. in this example, i would add crit chance or its not even worth

fickle lake
#

im going to level a falconer as my second character, anyone have any recommended leveling uniques as well as best slams on them??

spark burrow
spark burrow
spark burrow
shell siren
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I think 1 of my issues prior is i didnt put a point into autobombard

sturdy magnet
#

How would anyone go with survivability (mostly how to constantly heal back the dmg) in a DoT build ?

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(Trying to figure out an ignite cinder strike staff build)

tawny plank
sturdy magnet
spark burrow
spark burrow
sturdy magnet
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Yeah so there's that part but 16 per hit feels a bit too low to be the main source of heal

spark burrow
#

Then u need to attack quicker and/or get other sources of sustain like leech or ward

spark burrow
sturdy magnet
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Yeah but the problem is leech in a DoT build feels like it wouldn't quite work.
I got the same version of the build as a pure melee fire dmg but transioning to DoT means I need to swap out leech I feel.
Or am I stupid and is there a way to leech on DoT ?

spark burrow
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u should work to build wards with other spells / uniques so the life per hit would be enough to sustain the rest

sturdy magnet
#

Maybe health regen too but I'm just struggling to let go of the titan heart

spark burrow
#

experimental affix on gloves to convert life to ward but might be a struggle to make it work at start

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but playing low health/ward might be the option

sturdy magnet
#

Can you put experimental affix on legendaries ? Never tried before

spark burrow
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I think u can as long as they arent sealed

formal ether
spark burrow
tranquil nova
#

As far as I know you can leech from DoTs. It just needs to be specific „damage leeched as health“ so it’s any damage you do.
I think the low lvl unique amulet is a good source for that. I think it’s called bleeding heart or something, currently not online to check

spark burrow
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I was thinking about this amulet but didnt know how dots/leech works

frosty siren
#

does Sapping Strike work with Heartseeker -> Puncture proc?

clever tinsel
#

farming a decent inheritance of the erased in cof

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is sad

spark burrow
fickle lake
spark burrow
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bottom left

serene crane
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bad base but wtf is this omegalul

dusky schooner
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i like that base

spark burrow
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yeah bird base*

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just respec alrdy

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game is sending u signs

serene crane
#

armor shred is just useless for the dot there

spark burrow
#

redemption it

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the item and urself

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😄

serene crane
#

Id rather unninstal the game 😄

next pumice
#

I'm cooking something huge
but guys does this node works from detonating arrow ?
I dont saw any feedback in mobs status :/

clever tinsel
#

since it's a boss drop

pure knot
#

how good is cinder strike right now?

hearty oak
#

i just started the game and i want to try rogue is it beginner friendly class?

shell siren
#

yes vin it is

hearty oak
#

tnx i saw falconer i want to try that tnx

worthy tendon
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hey, ive been running the maxroll umbral blades flaconer build and just finding it pretty clunky and inconsistent (sometimes bosses absolutely melt other times i feel im barely tickling it and running out of mana)

Is there a specfic way i should be running this build or anyone got any other build suggestions that are smoother and more consistent?

spark burrow
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if u want some feedback on ur current build ofc, for other build suggestions its up to preferences, best might be looking videos to see if its ur playstyle

worthy tendon
worthy tendon
cosmic briar
spark burrow
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missing flat crit on bow too :p

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u guys dont like it

cosmic briar
#

well, i already deal with it ahaah

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took out market another my bow

next gale
#

7 aberoth kill in a row no anihilis wtf is wrong

worthy tendon
#

im working on another with the hybrid crit/bow attack speed

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will that help with the consistency?

spark burrow
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yes I think a big part of it is either u crit or not

cosmic briar
worthy tendon
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oh i have like 6 of those bows with 1lp just trying to find the right things to put in them, so will be replacing that one with a hybrid i got earlier

spark burrow
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ur crit multi is low and u wear a lot of uniques that even if they are the good ones, havent any lp

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so u miss a tons of stats

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u should farm the helmet with 2lp or + its easy drop

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try to get crit chance without ur unique ring

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cause it grief ur crit multi

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remove third eye ring asap

worthy tendon
#

ok so farm helmet with 2lp
Change bow to one with crit/bow speed

Thank you

next pumice
#

Anyone know if this node from detonating arrow work correctly plz ? I dont see any specific feedback below mobs health :/

worthy tendon
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ok ill switch from third eye aswell

spark burrow
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good exalted item might be better than just the unique

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check "build scaling" part on the guide and look for good exalted items with those stats, while farming uniques with LP

cosmic briar
#

its ward(

worthy tendon
#

ah ok amazing thank you very much for the help, is explosive traps worth it or would specing falcons be a better option? mana seems to be a issue on explosive traps

spark burrow
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yeah 3rd eye is strong but it can be a struggle to build around early on imo

spark burrow
cold portal
spark burrow
#

yes

worthy tendon
unique path
#

only thing clunky about umbral is the wasd aerial assault bug

cold portal
unique path
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where u have to stop holding a direction to cast it

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otherwise it'll mess up the aim

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hopefully will be fixed soon

sharp ravenBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 3,264, Regen: 143.64/s
▸ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 214 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 90% / 90% / 95% / 89% / 100% / 95%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 653
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2798)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,916)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

cold portal
spark burrow
#

Yeah like chair is QoL for gaming

jaunty glen
#

I hate explosive trap so much

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doesn't feel good to use

spark burrow
#

traps/totems/minions fck these

#

cba

lapis juniper
#

this is dumb

#

lol

worthy tendon
#

haha yes the leveling build seemed so smooth and then the trap build just seems annoying

next pumice
shell siren
#

@spark burrow best i could find but increased my crit chance total from 47 to 80 so def will help

jaunty glen
#

Wait Divebomb looks waaaaaaaaaay more fun

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than Umbral Blades

shell siren
#

persiverance my peeps .. very next boss i killed (was already lined up to kill him) dropped right after i added that T6 roll to the other bow

hasty elk
#

For a cold HS build, would you think flight of the first + crystalwind, or reign of winter + troaka's teeth?

shell siren
#

reign

spark burrow
#

yeah row defo

shell siren
#

yeah now i wanna get crit multi T6-7 and Crit hybrid T7 for sure

jaunty glen
#

Is Dive Bomb really that much worse than Umbral Blades?

dusky schooner
hasty elk
#

I do kind of want to try an elemental arrows build that alternates between converted HS and phys puncture, but going all in on cold hs seems more effective, if more boring.

jaunty glen
#

True

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I don't know what I wanna play. Umbral feels so janky but I wanna stay on Rogue because being fast is most fun lol

spark burrow
#

Dive bomb : 👨‍🦽
Umbral : 👨‍🦼

leaden pewter
#

Hi

dusky schooner
#

dive and umbral can be played the exact same way, unless you run sync strikes. It just depends how you want to scale the build, or rather the stats you use

leaden pewter
#

there was a falcon bleed stack build when i played last time, is that no longer in the game?

hasty elk
#

its certainly still in the game. Falconer did get nerfed a bit so it might not be as good but I'd bet its still plenty viable

leaden pewter
#

i don't really care how strong it is, it used to be fun, but i remember the falcon had a skill that threw feathers with bleed, i can't seem to find anything like that in the skill tree . . . any tips on where to start?

jaunty glen
#

I'm ready to quit playing from this build paralysis lol

dusky schooner
#

ill upload a vid of a boss fight of my build Hectic, can do a map later

sharp ravenBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (21) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (63)

General:

▸ Health: 2,536, Regen: 33.77/s
▸ Mana: 123.22, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 150 Dex / 11 Int / 11 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 110% / 177% / 118% / 116% / 110% / 123%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 599
▸ Dodge Chance: 56% (2287)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,567)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 103%

jaunty glen
#

That's one of the bigger reasons I moved away from it aha

topaz schooner
#

Work kinda been kicking my ass 😔

jaunty glen
#

Also feel like maybe if I set up AA and Dive to Auto Bomb I would have way more fun

topaz schooner
#

Lmao looks good love the song choice

rough arrow
#

yay i killed aberroth

muted sentinel
#

no AA fix goodbye falc

jaunty glen
#

oh....

unkempt quail
jaunty glen
#

rip

#

Maybe I just keep on with my sent lol

gentle basalt
#

no fix for HS targetting either sadge

rough arrow
novel rune
dusky schooner
#

you give up so much scaling through falconry to use trap

jaunty glen
#

cool

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I'll try it out

next gale
#

Could I get some help with my Heartseeker Rogue? I kinda feel like my damage is falling off, I'm almost at 300 corruption

wind flax
#

No spear bird buffs in 1.2.1. I guess I am just going to keep on power gaming in the absence of compelling build paths.

spark burrow
wide yacht
#

pack it up, game is saved

spark burrow
#

or straight frostbite

spark burrow
stoic ridge
#

Hey ! I'm struggling a bit to improve my build, i'm also following the divebomb build by Juse, i've got a rough idea where i want to go but i don't know what should be my priority.
I'm struggling on empowered monolith (die 1 on 3 echo usually OS).

My ideas are :

  • Getting a helm Peak
  • Running normal reign of dragons for resistance blessing
  • Taking out null potent to find better resistance on a classic chest
  • Getting soul gambler fallacy
  • Replacing bow with 2 traitor tongue
  • Slamming crit on a talon of valor
    What should be the first thing i do ?
    https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/crack_lover/character/trimard
serene crane
wide yacht
spark burrow
#

always instant destroy it, he is weaker than the Crafter champion

wide yacht
#

i couldn't clear that one for the love of god

shell siren
#

no aerial targeting fix

wide yacht
#

no wind up animation for that attack, within 1 frame there's a puddle of DoT below me that instantly kills

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and he's invulnerable as long as his "protector" is alive

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spark burrow
round yacht
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Boss damage sucks

empty birch
shell siren
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depends on the gear averages but i found dragonsong to be better at close range due to dragonsbreathe proccing way more often

muted sentinel
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weapon swap to gathering fury for bosses

spark burrow
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Bosses are where my dps seems to be falling off lol

shell siren
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im tempted to level another rogue one HS one Falconer just to swap gears between

serene crane
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shell siren
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so if am mashing buttons because nerves during fights how do i stop lol i keep going out of mana

round yacht
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The difference is crazy

shell siren
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umbral falconer

serene crane
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Well, hopefully this will be nice

spark burrow
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x3 ? 😮

shell siren
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void gloves are those boss specific? yet to see one drop

spark burrow
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ravenous void ? no just super rare

glad escarp
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Has anyone used those experimental items from the exiled mages? I have not found any pairs that seem too good yet

shell siren
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AA random targets doesnt tarsget where you put your mouse like it should

glad escarp
serene crane
shell siren
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no brainer.

spark burrow
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want one ? cof btw

unique path
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it only randomly targets if u hold a different direction from where ur mouse is

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if u just let go of wasd until the cast ends it wont be random

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just do that till they fix

shell siren
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gouli yes those

violet agate
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Is umbral blades falconer the best? How's the clear speed?

spark burrow
shell siren
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now i gotta find a t7 - t6 and hope it havocs

violet agate
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i might have to try one then

spark burrow
violet agate
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Alright. How should I level?

spark burrow
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umbral blade

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falconeer

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lol

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take the maxroll leveling guide for rogue

violet agate
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aiight

spark burrow
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from 16 go umbral till u stop the game

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Boss damage good with umbral blades? I dont mind the playstyle, I flew through leveling with it lmao

spark burrow
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its insane

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not good

violet agate
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Should i be merchants for the bow and boots>?

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or is CoF fine until u get them

spark burrow
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basically 1.2 rogue experience :

  • try HS cause new skill looks fun
  • bored at 300/500 corrup
  • see an Umbral blade Falconeer
  • win the game
spark burrow
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market for losers

violet agate
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heh

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CoF is the best way to play 🥲

shell siren
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Gouli what is the massive xplode thing after AA? it just ikilled a tomb guardian that was at 100%

cold portal
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20 Umbral blades

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Bow is easily farmable from outcasts or rune of ascendance, boots are from spirits of fire I think

chrome tulip
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I started leveling with umbral blade falconeer and switched to hs on endgame. But as i'm seeing here I should go back to umbral blades 😂

waxen citrus
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Aerial Assaault not fixed?

unkempt quail
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nope

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Is nihilis from harbies?

rough wren
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Aerial assault not being fixed is a bummer, anyone here has played Lethal Mirage Bladedancer? is it fun?

shell siren
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love how there is no descript for wing burst

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Whats wrong with Aerial assault?

shell siren
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yeah it is i was about to start dancing around him and he just fell over

spark burrow
earnest hull
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im playing lethal mirage bladedancer. its fine, you get some melee attack speed and its kinda nutty.

shell siren
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HS 1 point of perfect affix rolls

waxen citrus
earnest hull
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i die sometimes though but i blame it on all the ground circles overlapping

deft lagoon
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for the umbral blade buld i need the razorfall?

outer cairn
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yes.

deft lagoon
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it is impossible to get them

outer cairn
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i spent a few days after it too

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but eventually u'll get them

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farm spirits of fire and chuck every rune of ascendance

outer cairn
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u can't play the build anyways cuz its bugged

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nothing is impossible to farm with CoF 🥲

outer cairn
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so u have time to go after it

unique path
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spam spirit until u get 1 even at 0 lp, then annoint it on ur weaver tree

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for higher lp

lone charm
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i'm wondering to swap to Falconner from HS, is the bug really annoying ?

unique path
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at that point they should be dropping like candy

jaunty glen
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What should I use until I get Null Portent?

outer cairn
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