#🔪┃rogue
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Are you using forge to upgrade your gear?
what is your "Endgame" is my question. empowered mono? 500 corruption? 1000?
take a guess if hes brand new and lvl80
I've tried -- something will drop with 4 affixes and I'll roll the dice to remove one to hopefully replace it but the item just gets bricked.
i prefer not to assume someone's intention. lol
idk just harder content and better gear? Like getting a 4A Mythic in D4 lol
i stop D4 since season 2. trash arpg
Asking new player about 500/1000c goal is kinda not the best start 😄 being able to get to 300c should be a good start for any 'endgame' Id say
thats not how you usually craft. might be worth checking some crafting guides for beginners
look at his answer, he wants a god tier item by playing for 16 hours.
do you know level 80 is like low in LE?
I did not say that, you asked me what my ultimate goal was and I told you
you said you want a good item, and above you said you played for 16 hours and nothing drops.
idk what's happening
but so far I got only 1 omnis drops, after killing 20+ shades of 200+ corruption
that with CoF bonus
insanity
I got more red rings drops that omnis, what is this BS 😿
if you know what you are doing you are in emp monos by 80, which is where the endgame begins.
My progression has since flattened so I just need to be pointed in the right direction is all
are you referring to me or him? you already stated he's new. and im saying new or not, level 80 is low in LE
where are you in the game right now? are you in emp monos?
flattened because you're dying left and right? or you dont know how to raise your corruption?
its not low by any means, by that time you already have all your skills maxed out and most of the crucial passives to make your build work, its more gated by gear than lvl.
No 😦 I was doing level 85 regular mono's but it takes forever to kill so I am rerunning prior lower level ones to hopfully get drops needed for Heartseeker build and levels.
I don't die usually -- stuff takes a while to kill
level 80 is chum change in LE. stop trying to pat yourself on the back
okay since you followed a guide, what's the build?
sounds like a build issue to me, you are trying to play endgame build without sufficient gear
all of the maxroll builds are very gear dependant
Rogue leveling build which is where I am now (from Maxroll) and I want the Heartseeker endgame one.
This is the leveling guide I am using: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/falconer-leveling-guide
It has lost steam
i got 2.3k hours in the game, reaching lvl80 is fast yes but so is lvl100, still its not low lvl by any means. experienced players are pushing 200 corruption near lvl80 at best.
again, stop patting yourself on the back. pretty sure i made it clear.
good enough i guess
okay, you dont need those at all. you can just transit to hs when you first unlock them
do you know how to import character to lastepochtools would be better to look at your character specifically.
I tried that but lacked the gear and stuff wasn't dying so I switched back
rogue chat > every other chat
idk how to do that
can you pop into voice chat and stream your character?
If you can, you can go here and in "import", just write your names there so we have some idea about what you currently have, what should be replaced, what is easy to change, etc...
- and yeah, checking some youtube guides on crafting is great and usually easy to understand
- some basic lootfilter to hide all the basic trash and only see stuff you want: a) mainly for your build (recolor: red); b) shatter/remove for affixes (pink); c) idols for your build with 2/1 wanted affixes; d) t6-t7 of class affixes; e) anything with hybrid life affix (green)... thats what I usually start with
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
So for phys umbral falconer which skills actually do most of the dps? Wondering since spamming cancels the bird action
go to lastepochtools.com and then choose the build planner, then on top left in my screen select import
then type in your acc and character name, then save/share and copypaste the link here
Since its a leveling build it stopped providing guidance after 70, I am just having a hard time transitioning to Heartseeker build from Maxroll since the loot filter just doesn't seem to drop what I need for example it's a lot of wands or other items I don't use. Ect.
My loot filter is definitely not perfect, but from what I keep hearing about maxroll lootfilters, they look horrible aswell
I guess I'll have to do some basic template usable for the build to some more endgame wanted rules
😦
lowkey i always suggest new players to learn to use the lootfilter and make their own. if ppl copy from others they might be too strict
my hs tooltip
I’m starting to think someone overcooked the maxroll falconer leveling guide, we keep getting the same comment
its not hard to use lootfilter effectively, at first just hide anything under exalted, then you can hide class specific stuff if you dont plan to play alts this season.
then just highlight the affixes you really want. or so
got a link to ur character?
When Ive seen a friend that played LE for few hours, he was using some basic lootfilter (for acolyte/warlock) and the amount of rules there was kinda insane to even navigate in
@zenith sun if you want a detail guide and you can pop into a voice chat room, @ me. typing is too much tbh.
I cant rn but I can later
glass cannon for now. trying to get tankier
Does Umbreal Remnant not proc Lethal Darkness?
yeah later then. im grinding the entire night
is there anyone playing heartseeker that can help me figure out what my gear needs?
ah got it, im at around 41k but pretty tanky
looks to me like a basic RoW heartseeker.
does a basic row hs get at 56k?
yeah RoW bow. still 1 lp only.
idk, theres not much build variations doing cold heartseeker though, either frostbite or basic RoW
i think curse tested frostbite hs, dunno how good it is. i'm lvling bleed hs atm myself.
the arena ladder actually has a lot of fire hs with burner daggers
poison hs seems wacky if poison was just not so shit ailment to begin with.
can stack crazy amounts of poison chance with armorshred
i feel like poison has been shit since the lich build in beta went super crazy lmao
yup
i started in 0.9 so i didnt even get to experience good poison lol
So that's probably why my poison bladedancer sucks so much (I also have no idea what I'm doing)
I see more and more ppl choosing cold hs over fire. Whats the main purpose for choosing cold over fire?
I went poison bladedancer too and I'm probably going to try to swap to some kind of crit build at this point
Can hit the whole screen. No close range required.
@zenith bridge your ice seeker build is amazing, I'm blasting over 800+ corruption no issues. I use the movement skills as needed and avoid death! I am curious how we will survive Uber abberoth which is my current problem, he is a big issue for any rogue period. It seems only paladin and void knight characters can barely survive Uber right now. You are the best heartseeker player in LE brother, you keep in mind those of us with less time to play the game. The corruption speed technique is also great by that RPG guy. I saved so much time building corruption.
Why are some gear tradeable and others not. They dont have the faction icon at the bottom so I assume its not faction bound
So I’m currently using Triksters build but want to swap over to dreads frostbite build. When respecting talent trees and skills, what’s the best way to level them back up? I’m scared to brick my build and make myself too weak lol
I'm trying blade dancer, man this is not an easy class IMO
uber abby is just damage
do more damage and you'll eventually get him
and pray u dodge the right stuff
It's player skill issue for those saying it's impossible to use Triksters ice seeker beyond 400+. I'm at 800+ using good positioning and using it as a real range, the way archer is supposed to be. 😂
can someone help me decide what to buff for more survivability, like i have Max resistances and some crit avoidance. How much Dodge and Endurance do I need to not get 1 shotted?
Ye i think more and more to make the switch. Could swap cinder for dark quiver which i like.
Gear wise it wouldnt rly change much right?
Like the bow and any fire modifiers are the only real changes?
I almost abandoned Ballista when hitting empowered Monoliths, saw some people play it in HC, decided it was a skill issue on my end 
Many of the people crying and complaining "rogue sucks" are poor skill players. They expect every class build to be easy mode like current overtuned paladin and void 😂
passives you dont need any leveling and skills are very fast to lvl. very hard to brick anything
I mean, I get it, when I just want to farm and relax and maybe watch something on second screen I would also prefer a different build I guess.
Right now I find it engaging, but in the long run I get the appeal
to be fair you can build rogue to be much tankier than what trikster does in his planners.
I found a 1 lp ucenuis sphere for my hs build. Whats the best affix to put on. Dex crit strike or endurance or maybe a resist?
If you don't match int=att, then probably t6 int to do it
Can't change vit bruh. But you can try sealing it, good chance
Can someone help me with bleed? I've been seeing so many stuff like armour shred working and some saying it doesn't and I'm totally lost on how to increase bleed dmg as marksman.
It doesnt work for bleed to make more damage (with bleed)
oh fk i totally forgot bout that. its int/attune/dex/str right? damn.. low FP to work with
Ok. Thanks.
amor shred increases damage with "hits" and damage over time arent hits iirc
Can be a good 2lp slam on phys shuri or cascade
at least the health is nice
I dont think there is any unique/class node that would somehow work with bleed+armor shred.... however, critical strike multiplier would make bleed do more damage with Salt the Wounds unique gloves (dual katana swords ftw)
i usually play 1 build and character only. so probably gonna sit inside my stash and rot
Hmm confused me there. How would those not be equal? At what place do we get attunement? Cuz i dont have any attunement nor int. Just from campaign and the peak helmet.
You don't use row bow?
I made this myself: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QbY1a4DA (Ignore the 4lps lol) and I'm just kinda lost in the skils passives on certain things
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (48) / Falconer (13)
▸ Health: 1,453, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 155.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 46 Dex / 20 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 143% / 143% / 208% / 118% / 88% / 24% / 97%
▸ Endurance: 22%, Threshold: 291
▸ Dodge Chance: 60% (2559)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (972)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 17%
i think theres something on puncture tree that converts armor shred to bleed?
I don't think so? I've missed it if so lol
It does has poison to bleed from all sources
yea maybe im thinking of something else
Nope, Heartseeker armor shred chance=>poison chance
Oh that has attun? Damm i was gonna swap to cold soon. So i guess thats good to know to solve that before the switch haha.
Not really, do it after, because you don't know how much attunnyiu will get from the bow. But anyway you can get int on any piece
ah yea thats probably it
wait but it could work then
armor shred to poison, poison to bleed lol
Oh btw. ist anyone else really struggling with Cenotaph of Worlds, especially the miniboss? „Random“ oneshot and such?
Don‘t have any issues with most of the Woven Echoes but this one is almost impossible for me right now
Does anyone experience the right mouse button stop working from time to time? need to re-equip my weapon to fix it, which makes me die ALOT
Im not sure if that double conversion like that works there 😄
hehehe
Can’t double convert.
Yup
sadge
I don't think conversion works like that? Either way, I'm using Mutilate (consumes bleed to deal instant dmg) so I just want to have as much bleed as possible on a target every 3rd puncture.
I have a bow already. And im hardly in endgame yet only lv 70 currently. But thats kinda hard to fix then. Will need to be an exalt with int with exact number.
Kinda stupid just checked the maxroll and it doesnt even have int on the row version unless im looking wrong. But kinda makes u wonder..
just put your right click spell on other action button then use then right click work again
While also using Hail of Arrows so the poison shred won't work for HoA
does explosive trap not detonate on its own anymore??
It does after 30s
is there a way to speed that up? I was just watching some game play and this guy was throwing traps and they were exploding almost immediately, seemingly without being triggered
i asked trikster why he didnt put it in, he thinks that matching int=att is not casual friendly, and its okay without it
new on LE is it worth ~1mil?
Only saw these with the +4 and hp affix.
could be this
@bronze meteor With just +4 and throwing damage, nothing even appears. So it could be expensive but idk if a falcon build uses throwing dmg.
Lowering the tiers I see one at 574k though
Probably try price checking at the sanctum market discord.
thank you i'll set it 2-3m and pray than
I guess that makes sense. But tbf should put casual friendly at the build then. I usually follow maxroll and then when i pht enough time in it and get more experience i change things which are better for me.
But good to know about the int. Think ill put dex or crit strike on the relic. And solve int in my rings.
man killing aberoth in 20 seconds feels so good
idk I looked at the planner for the guy and he doesnnt have that node. It was from a while ago idk if the skill got changed at some point over the past year
id cold acid flask falconer even good anymore?
i like it right now but I dont just got to monos with it
Well, rinds are ideally red rings, so gl with that
Is it even worth the prefix costs to match then
the most you can get from prefix is t7 cold damage up to 120%. matching int=att gives double than that, and its only t6 int
3rd day now, on which I'm trying to find a COMMON unique bow. I blew already way above 25k favor for that 😦
Talons of Valor that is.
wxho has a good umbral strike loot filter that i can use ?
just copy from Maxroll
im already doing that, i feel like it misses quite a bit of items
raxx has a vid on the loot filter
go do that
he premade filter and u add affixes u need
simply add the kind of items you don't want to miss to the filter
okay
that's way too much work, if you don't have multiple chars imo
is it wise to make a portion of the filter that recolors items with 2 or more mods that i need ?
not just one
depends how far you are with your build
im currently doing C300 and im almost done with the harbinger quest, you can say i clear quickly, also i have all my items to legendairy with 1-2 LP each
working on changing to 3 LP when i get a lucky drop
yeah then i would do what Yiniks just mentioned, and set really strict rules
okay
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/umbral-blades-falconer-guide im using this build and filter
still missing the rings , amulet and belt
no luck
i mean you can also make this filter stricter, that would be the quickest way if you know your way a little on how that works
GL with 1LP Red Rings
not really, i never made one
but if you need instructions. Rax's Filter has that
yeah
i heard it costs over 50m in market faction
so no shotcuts
is there a unique rings that could work better than a t6-7 exalt ?
in place of the red rings
as a place holder
Are Ravenous Void gloves that rare? Anyway to target farm?
nomad, crab are generally good
no its a random drop or reward from a specific time line
@zenith sun
I also want to know a unique ring that can substitute. A red ring in umbral build
Yikes
more than 10% for cof tho 
How would you go about farming that? I am Cof too
what items are those ? are those the right names ( im gonna use the website to check it out )
grab 10 lvl cof or whatever adds 150% more boss drops and just grind gaspar
idk what that means lol
is this it ?
get to lvl 10 COF
yes
then what?
and farm boss form the timeline the gloves drop
ending of the storm
boss is called gaspar
i dont need prophecies or anytning? just lvl 10 cof?
well u can get them doesnt hurt
idk, i feel like theres a lot of res on it, no room for dmg mods, unless i LP it
i had no idea graspar had a higher drop chance for red ring 😮
prophesies for gloves can work, but you will need lots of them
every time i read something from Ragulol, I learn something 😄
its ravs
also i dont deal fire dmg
its not for ring
o shit
gloves
my b
for ring we suffer
D:
Is this ring good for umbral blade build?
thats the whole point of any unique
i mean, if you have a big gap in ur res sure
this some big odds
lp4 is possible
casual 4lp gaming
kinda shit rolls but we can reroll it
ye
the fat boy armor
whats the name of the echo to reroll uniques?
sacrifice unique with xLP (can be slammed with X affixes) => reroll values of same unique with xLP or less (either xLP or if its slammed it rerolls the slammed values)
to put xLP there and turtle gamble to reroll LP (it fails a lot)
whats the echo where you *can drop the brewmaster belt ?
damn my habits to make builds tanky backfire on me. i can pretty much tank any 2 hits in a succession(first removes ward, second goes to endurance thresh, third dead) of a harbinger at 450 corr but my hs clearing is slower then i would want
i just use rune of removal on this to add hp/dex?
cant post photos in CoF, so dont mind me asking here.
and all i can do is to get more tanky easily, but to get more damage i need to not miss 2-3lp slams
I guess for higher corruption you'll have to get replace some defences with more damage anyway? Unless you want to chip everything too slowly 😄
Have you tried the 10 harbinger fight yet?
Im still missing rank 10, but at some rank (would have to google/tunkalab it) you can buy it from the vendor for 2000 memory ambers => can imprint it to Weaver tree so it has a chance to show up as a regular echo
the issue is its easy to get more tanky, you just slam 1lp of everything with t7 hybrid, but to get damage i need to slam 3lps and not miss
I've wiped to it so many times. I tend to build tanky too - just like you
no, do they go at the same time?
why im only knowing about this now
damn
T-T
No, but they have like a 500% life and damage modifier. Plus random map mod
that'd be crazy. 1 at a time
brooo why cant this be used on uniques and leg
would be more or less easy, just time to kill wouldnt be that fast
Yeah they are buffed af... Ive done it once at 350c and idk, felt way too long... then I went to 5 Shade echo and they melted like butter
i dont know how that works
I keep getting through like 7-9 of them and then get 1 shot
or do you mean 500% more like and damage on top of corr scaling?
btw, it happenes to me several tries when 2nd Harb spawned, it spawned two female harbs instead
not from the same timeline, but still two
It's on top of that
I'm pretty sure
ah i see, then we are talking about a 1000 corr
i mean once you're at 9th, you should play alittle safer. best if you can remember what's left
a normal boss harbinger melts in the same corruption compared to the 10 fight echo
i need better gear fisrst
I try! Then some void dog hits me for 4k
@dusky schooner gotta kite it. i did it with 1.8k hp only
weird design if true
orobysses gauntlet i think were +- the same as in mono i think, no?
i built glass cannon + stack dusk shroud
My build works best in melee range >.>
woes of being a melee, if you're not tanky, you're not a true melee.
working on it
nah, always bird
ahhh got cha
aerial/shadow dive / umbral
but i scale the bird
if non traversal aerial worked properly, i'd probably use it for that fight
but it bugs out with wasd so hard
damn
I love that arena tho... its very big
- Rahyeh harb - can move away from his clockwise pizza slices
- Lagon harb - when she summons the waves, they only got at X-level where she stands
- Emperor harb - should be able to outrange dragon breath... but just step aside lol
- Heorot harb - gotta stick to him because the winter storm is everywhere (I think)
- Gaspar harb - can move away to other side of arena during the tri-beam attack
- Fire shaman trio harb - just move from left/to/right side of arena to avoid the big magma ball
get the crappiest Red Ring you can, imprint it, hope it drops... still idk how the top-left Champion imprint slot works with uniques... I kinda forgot lol
do falcon/the bird count as a minion?
yes
thats the problem, i cant even afford a crapy one
so this item is great?
bladedancer any good these days?
been like 4 years since I last played a rogue
or maybe 3 years now
get falcon, its way cooler
When you say red ring, that isn't in the loot filter? Would putting in a ruby ring for inprint work?
Does this convert on potion use effects
only falcon build I would want to play is cinderstrike with falcon fist
Like 400 health on potion use
and im not too sure how good cinder strike falcon fist is
Or only actually using the potion
pretty sure that is on potion use
Hm
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/umbral-blades-falconer-guide#loot-filter-header @dire lagoon this one is not bad
is that cinder strike falcon fist?
i used umbral strike all the way
No idea tbh, I think it would just print non-unique silver rings
even without boots, it works; kinda
Buuut I could be wrong with that 😄 you can definitely try putting some silver ring there unless you have something else to try getting imprinted
All I have are regular rings but my builld calls for that red ring of altaria, 2 of them and they are super rare so worth a try i guess
So what unique rings are good for rogue?
are these lenses always optimal to have or swtich one to mono events
tbh, aiming for red rings WITH 1LP even to get +16dex is something that takes quite a bit of effort... If you aim just to get like t7 dex/%damage/health/resist, that should be fine for quite some time... and just keep aiming for red rings as a side thing
hey guys anyone tried heartseeker + black arrow combo with shadows ?
If you dont mind doing non-monolith prophecies, can take something else to target farm
21 180% more damage acid flasks is equal to 59 non potion acid flasks
There anywhere in stats in game to see our heartseeker recurve chance?
do you have an exalted ring in your weaver tree imprinted?
What are the chances of nemesis giving a red ring +1 lp?
50/50, you either get it or you dont
Should be same as LPL afaik
with imprints
tbh ive just been imprinting font of the erased rings for easy legs
gotten like 10 of them
Man, I'm like 150 runes of ascendency and inf unique boot drops in and still no razorfall, rip
I got my razorfall yesterday with one lp I took A long time
alright might go try out blademaster again after a few years
think last time I did throw based shadow daggers. Might try cascade this time
Hey guys for talons of Valor, my divebomb only has like 2 points on it, but i got a 3 LP from COF
for the skill tree, which are the nodes that are low priority since I'll be short of 2 skill points now ?
For umbral blades falconer
heartseeker is so much fun
the rolls sadd
oof
Is max roll hearth seeker best build?
no lol
i did dreadfuls cold heartseeker
switched from the maxroll build and its def better
thats the first lp4 i ever saw
you can use woven to reroll the stats.
You have the planner
one sec
i cant, i need another 4lp peak to do that
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (35) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (67)
▸ Health: 3,108, Regen: 13.71/s
▸ Mana: 141.77, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 126%, Regen: 32/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 80 Dex / 0 Int / 0 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 196% / 71% / 74% / 74% / 81% / 13%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 622
▸ Dodge Chance: 23% (764)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (737)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
Puncture / Smoke Bomb / Shift / Shurikens / Heartseeker
wait.. you need the exact LP# to reroll?
I want to try it out but its a bow skill so would need to farm the helmet to turn it into a thrown skill
Ty
anyone scaling dragonfire with dragonsong here? how are you guys doing it?
the throwing skill version i heard isnt that good
I have all these uniques
sounds like a personal problem
For the build
nah bows are just lame nothing personal
either 4LP, or 4 stats legendary from nemesis
that is what we call a personal opinon bud lmaoooo
just claeared Abby normal with bleed. not too shabby, thought i wouldn't have the dps
🤡
but yeah was considering trying it with oil coating and the throw heartseeker helmet
any way to improve this to prevent getting slaughtered by Ubberoth? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/thewan2345/character/120mm
wtf? okay they messed up on this mechanic. that shouldnt be the case
Did anyone try to go shackles+troakas to stack ward on freeze? With hs
bladedancer skills look solid though not sure if mirage is good
dread
go up i linked it
ull want to cap your reduced dmg from crits
Its very good, just need to gear it up with care
I assume this node requires directly used non-elemental skills, right?
Why the cold heatseeker build stacks cold resist?
Node in HS that gives cold pen for cold resist, uncapped
feel like the main issue may just be mana sustain. Sounds like it could have a bit of downtime waiting for mana to regen
also flow sounds annoying to manage
cause of this
you stack dex.
stack dex loses cold+phy resist.
i may be wrong but i dont think that has anything to do with it
its the hs node
would you believe me if i say you are?
that node doesnt benefit as much as dex stacking
hs itself is a dex skill. by getting cold tag means 1 dex = x2 scaling for cold hs
alright think ill work on lethal mirages next, not going to expect much but can't be as bad as my last character
You can get t6 (46-60%) mana efficiency on body armor (with +2 mirages) and Shift+Umbral blades with mana node solves any mana issue
Folks is there any endgame unique support for physical heart seeker or do I have to pivot to fire/cold
Someone said there wasnt really any support for phys unfortunately
I've been having a blast at 150ish corruption but everyone seems to only talk about fire/cold so I'm worried I'm going to fall off (my goal is 300ish)
1/2 = 1% cold pen per 10% resist.
2/2 = 2% cold pen per 10% resist.
at this level there isnt extra skill points to get it. i have +25 to my hs and i still didnt get that
Ah man that's a big shame
cause of the cold boots itself. its just too good to not get it. free damage by stacking dex, which physical already needs.
oh don't know much about umbral blades but will look into it when I get around to the character but yeah I know about shift's mana on use node
yeah feel like the mirage mana efficiency will be pretty big
they dont believe me when i said it🥺
Didnt say it wasnt
Oh I see, I guess that's pretty massive yeah, time to respec cold I guess
waiting for the heartseeker buff 
The damage feels pretty good to me (only at 150 corruption though) the main issue I'm having is I just fall apart if anything touches me more than once
I got my Shift to 1.8s (t7 cdr on belt+boots and 22% Stymied boots from Shade of Orobyss) and I spam Lethal Mirage twice per Shift together with Smoke Bomb and basically 0 mana issues there
just rogue stuff.
Thats pretty much any MM build, no?
yee, that crying laugh emoji is bs
1 cold pen vs 10 flat cold and 40% inc dmg from dex
marksmen rise up
I've rolled a void knight alt and I get into the dumbest situations with my build that's only levelling uniques plus some random yellows and it just facetanks everything
reading comprehension must be tough pretty sure i said i """""may""""" be wrong lmaooo
question to Heartseeker bros, do you align int with atunement with relic
Thats why I save rogue builds for when I'm playing with my friend and then do sentinel or something solo
theoretically you still get inc dmg to spells with int scaling
not worth. trust, because if you run the woven shine maps over and over
the shines gives int and att evverywhere
haha well i meant before i get red rings of course haha xD
hmm... there's a tech to get memory ember
yes yes, that one
and also, that int could be dex with is x2 scaling again vs relic
that can be actually better against bosses scenarios but idk how are calculations thone
Could also slap those bad boys in there I guess
Guys question about heartseeker builds and BELTS. Which belt are guys using?
maxroll suggests brewmaster for survivability. But then i look at its stats and im like...that sux for hc. It has endurance and vit, ok u can have that on a rare belt. And then some endurance threshold after u take a potion...that seems just a waste, you wanna be tankier before the potion not after. So lookin for good alternative options 😛
gonna be HUGE glass cannon, giving up idols for damage for MM is death penalty
What could be good unique rings for cold HS?
ohh, just noticed icicle doesnt scale with int
ocearon maybe?
nevermind
100 achived lesgo
tyty
indeed, nice dex :3
hows phys and cold res :D
Got a link to ur char?
As Dr3ad has said several years ago "Im a certified dps wh*re" 
tbh who really needs rez anyway when you're just gonna dodge everything
to mine? if u wanna copy the build im using its this https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeaajnnQ credit to @terse bloom
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (61)
▸ Health: 3,264, Regen: 143.64/s
▸ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 214 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 90% / 90% / 95% / 89% / 100% / 95%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 653
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2798)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,916)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%
also how is Snowdrift frostbite vs mourningfrost
as thats potential use for cold pen noe @thin quartz
tyty
with frostbite quiver
anyone know the % of drop of harbi eyes?
i killed like 10 of em rn on 400 corr
0 dropped
Is this better then max roll?
well the second i complain i get one
hello i am currently playing a umbral falconer, with all of the recommended endgame gear except nihlis and i am getting instantly deleted the moment i touch any of these necrotic lasers. anyone know why?
Those necrotic lasers seriously hurt, so... dont stand in front of them a they're being cast 😄 big life, dodge, endurance if life build aaand stepping aside
hopefully they nerf em a bit cuz its insane
yea i got 2k hp, and 50% endurance so far and am doing my best to not stand in them.
Today I got my hands on a 2lp and 3lp jelkhors and feel tempted to play melee detonating arrow. LE tools did not list any builds for 1.2 yet, so I was wondering is it just not among the top builds or simply not playable anymore? Last time I played was 0.9.x ish
any idea why my e and r are greyed out? umbral blades from lizard guide
I think you miss the falcon skill
need to drop umbral from the list and add the falcon skill
Has to be on hotbar
If i try to set up my filter with type: Idols
Every Affix is unobtainable. Why is that?
it worked thx
What’s the fastest uberroth kill rn?
Is this build better then max roll?
1:19 atm still missing several upgrades
thats insane
Namely throw dam on belt boots, dex on shattered worlds 240 reachable
you have to go to the idol section of affixes
ye, i saw it meanwhile, thanks though 🙂
np, theres also a section for weaver specific idol affixes too
anyone tried shadow type heartseeker ? its really fun lmaooo
i spent the whole weekend trying to make a detonating arrow build work, and just for the fun of it I just specced into hearseeker and with 10 points into it i already do more dmg than my det arrow -.-
bro u should try my setup it have survivabilty + shadows
currently trying this one basically all those others are supprting my heartseeker creating more shadows and using this node
if u guys got any idea to make this better maybe a unique ? i dont have much idea yet and its still on testing
Any1 can tell me if armor shred is a stat thats usefull for the hs cold / fire build? Shouldnt right since were pure cold or fire and like almost 0 phys its useless?
I thought about it but I wasnt sure how I was gonna generate shadows
black arrows
FACTS
this is ur way to create shadows
add this as well
basically u have a balista(shadow throwing another heartseeker)
oh wow
the poison thingy is just for more debuffs armor shreds
Does Varion's Chariot (Increased dmg% per %ms speed) stack on Rogue's Agility passive node?
I have dark quiver but honestly I hate having to pick arrows up
i have too much shadow that i get to the 3 limit so fast
the arrows does big damage tho
like it gives u double dmg if u pick up
I wish there was more range to pick them up
i am like 20% to my build i havent got lp stuffs yet
have to be right on top of them
when u have lot of movement speed its not really a problem since ur also moving while hitting
true
this one helps
I have haste from somewhere else i think
you partner it up with a boot like this
my gears are really scuffed and i havent reach corruption stuff but now i have too much shadows taht the bosses melt
was thinking of getting more recurve but i dont think its necessary now
u planning to get the dark quiver unique?
can you show me
phase point
i have 0 unique in my build right now
its a boss drop unfortunately
wouldnt snowdrift be more for frostbite dot instead
Yeah
i dont think i like this unique much to put it on ngl
i rather get more stats
But still scales with cold DMG I guess
there's a guy on youtube who did that. frostbite dot
damnnnn
Checked ladder and majority of top exp players go snowdrift plus quiver
also right now i dont have puncture since my clear is pretty fast with shadows
where can you target farm this ?
u cant
rune of asc
for dot damage ?
0.14% chance
And cold pen stack
Also a little faster ms with snowdrift
Maybe on top lvl it's better with 3lp quiver
might be a very high level thingy, DoT might be better
Also you spec puncture with this tech

XD
anyone farming heorot? Lemme join for the bow haha
the bowmage one, icicle on attack or something like that? Id give you mine if I wasn't on solo account found
@formal ether here it is on action . iclearly have mana problems im trying to fix that tho kekw
im still not high level and id ont have much good gears yet
since im playing ssf
as far as rogue leveling goes what's the recommendation for blademaster? Probably going to give them all a try but im sure one will just feel insane compared to the rest for leveling
hopefully in the future heartseeker gets more support
no picking up black arrows
this thing
also i use smoke bomb
to get more shadows
kinda need the arrows for more heartseeker arrow
if i wanna go cold with the item what makes acis flask turn to cold , can i still take the node what turns acid into fire for the extra damage ?
Where do u see ladder? With their items? Ingame cant see much
shift has a mana node as well
yea i put too many stuff on damage when i have problems with mana kekw
I keep hearing conflicting things, is fire pen/fire damage a good way to scale HS or just cold?
yes thank you
i have that mana node speccd too, no mana problems
ill be sacrificing alot of dmg but thats better than running out of smoke bomb
was thinking using this then removing shfit
yea cant just spec all damage sadly
ahh totally forgot about that thx
was looking to swap builds, found this 3/4/4 for 60k...
Nice
Is it me or is blade dancer abilities super "not fluid"
How much a razorfall cost in mg?
They are Schrodinger's abilites... they both are and are not fluid at the same time
does cdr affect arrow storm cooldown of 10 seconds?
cdr only affets your own skill, not something like Arrow Storm from passives/skill nodes
Guys, is this worthy fodder bow for a 3 LP Dragonsong? Is slow on hit ok, or should I try to hit armourshred? 1 atempt left
lost cache echo with razorfall imprint on tree shits out razorfalls
fk yee after 320 echos completed in spirit of fire 😄
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan why do i always play so good and i enter lagoon fight and i do the most stupid shyt ever 😭 just dashed right into the big circle and got 1 shot
mana birb? 
looks very very... paper
Just started one and feel exactly the same
I’ve been thinking about a shuriken build lately… you guys got any inspiration for me?
What's the consensus for heartseeker around here? Dragonsong or RoW?
I need advice.
Crit Multi is pretty much BIS but Fire dmg is not optimal dmg type but not terrible. I am planing to craft on Cold Penetration as I am dealing Mainly Cold damage even with the Prefix beeing added Fire dmg. The other suffix options are chance to blind and chance to shred armor on hit.
I am unsure which of those 3 suffixes to craft on this bow. As chance to blind and chance to shred armor are theoretically available on a quiver.
I am planing to use it on a 4 LP Uethrin's Stand.
Eh, 11min for Harbringer rush... not really sure how good that is... for sure nowhere near the fastest I guess... 😄
anyone with balista build pushing past 500+?
How are you keeping the silver shrouds up
they're gonna nuke falconer so bad next season LOL
They kinda did but faaar from enough 😄
Tried both, prefer RoW by far
Where is the planner for that build?
Smoke bomb (Moonlight Bomb node) and I guess Coordinated Fate in falconer's passives
what do yous reckon is better
spider silk quiver (10% multiplier) and ele res on two 3x1 idols
or shred armor/effect quiver and ele res on quiver, armor duration + damage of shadows on 3x1s
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (61)
▸ Health: 3,264, Regen: 143.64/s
▸ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 214 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 90% / 90% / 95% / 89% / 100% / 95%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 653
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2798)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,916)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%
I guess depends how much armor shred you can do? 🤔
what's the advantage of speccing falconry instead of explosive trap like the maxroll build does?
Its MG but the planner isnt same as ingame gear
250-300 on uberroth
mg
Could be worth trying out
Autobomber feels like spamming buttons and winning, kinda weird
Its definitely not normal, but that gear is pretty sick, ngl
I should push corruption but instead I keep farming prophecies from bosses I dont really need atm... 
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Yiniks/character/Yiniks_HS thats my gear following his build on COF
That Erased amulet looks great 😄
In my experience in trying both I've had better performance from dragonsong. Utilizing the same gear between both builds and just changing specs and the bow
With crit and bowspeed on both bows
prefer clear of RoW with punctures
and more reliable dps
also it lets you clear things our of screen easier
Oh it actually hit SD too, huuuuge 
Yeah i found the clear to be better, but my single target seemed to suffer a bit.
Its a skill respec to swap between the 2
I did think about trying out puncture with the deagonsong version, not sure why it couldn't work
also changing fire dmg from gear to cold dmg if you use it
prefer scaling cold dmg and crit multi tho
instead of shared dmg
Yeah I've primarily been scaling damage with +dex, which works out to be cold damage
how good is crit chance over 100%
every 100% is 1 stack, every % after that is chance for extra stack
any falconer enjoyers corruption 500/600+? dodge setup feels so squishy in high corruption
100% = 1
150% = 1 and 50:50 for 2nd
200% = 2
oh wow
i just clicked onto wudijo's stream and i saw the triple shot puncture tech with hs.
that shouldnt be happening right? its bugged but it works
If the enemy dies to Hs and it shoots Puncture with 2 mirage punctures... ye that shouldnt be happening since that should be "direct" use by yourself 😄
yeah. i wish i can show you but it works
my puncture now is triple shot
and it comes from my character.
not from the monster anymore
From what I saw on reddit it seemed unintended
lol the aberroth kills are so fast now
also, its not miniscule actually, we stack dex.
Would it be the end of the build if I took 2 points from heart drain to put them into the puncture node with the dragonsong version? Just curious
That armor shred looks nice 😄
no more umbral blades eh?
so what is it for? not even on your bar
any questions ask Ragu
i dont know what hes cooking half the time i just do the builds
but this thing completely stomps 1k corruption
might even push for 2k
then why not just remove it and put shift since you're ltierally not using it
dont need shift for the build
Is there a planner link
unethical falconers dont use that right?
Probably mana on Shift
eh probably not 😄
nvm
I would really prefer if you just remove the shift from the skill panel, it makes my eye twitch every time you shift while having smoke traversal
Loosing on some damage from umbrals, you should be stacking smoke near the boss, shoot, black arrows drop between you and the boss, you smoke through him collecting black arrows mid fly, repeat from the opposite direction
Smoke also sustains dusk shroud
Anyway, looks decent
what's the blade for?
Free aoe damage because you are stacking dusk anyway. And nothing else to put there tbh. Literally nothing
Everything else you would need to actively use
Can go with decoy and get free crit multi for a while
But why bother
Umbrals deal decent damage once you have dusk stacked. It's not super good, but eh, it's free
if you're talking about free. wouldnt shift be even more free? its a movement skill AND increase your HS damage after you shift
But he is using smoke for traversal, they share a CD
But then I wouldn't have smoke traversal
And I want to have smoke traversal for more dusk and silver
is smoke weaver any good for cascade?
shift has a lower cd for traversal skill AND increase your hs damage right after it for 2 seconds
This i what I am running atm, and using shift to proc shuriken armor
It's only 50% inc damage
compared to blades that does nothing for hs?
It eats 2 skill slots, and I want to have both puncture and black quiver
Compared to having double amount of silver and shadows for hs id say yes
I was wondering about that, im currently running the dragonsong version without dark quiver. The RoW version i saw didn't spec into puncture, i wonder if that's why I thought it felt worse
all the other Reign versions are terrible
blade gives silver?
@flint turret i need your advise
30% chance to consume a shadow and shoot extra hs is basically 30% more attack speed(not increased, more)
pog
as in one's that don't spec puncture?
ye
LMAO*
bad clear in monos
Smoke does
i grew LP on it
Yeah it just didn't feel as good as dragonsong, and I'm only at 250 corruption
why are you comparing to smoke tho? im not saying smoke is bad. im saying having blade is bad
Jelly, how much favor did you dump?
Meh, I'd say mid
Hooonestly? I would keep it around and reroll it... 😄
like 300k, got another one after this
but i've imprinted now so it should be easier
Ruetoo's progress is catched up me already even his marksman lv 95 only... I suppose fire heatseeker marksman is no hope... What's wrong with this build so it's act like ass on aoe... Cold heatseeker marksman just... Clean the whole screen when fire heatseeker marksman still struggling with a group of enemies...
i said it on day1. fire hs is bad.
what are you going for? 3lp talon decent rolls?
What would you say are good weapons rn?
Ya I have a 3lp in the bank waiting
I'm comparing to smoke because having shift makes smoke non traversal, and smoke traversal had 50% less CD. So having shift specced reduces silver by half
traitors?
How do you discover this truth?
I'm not saying umbrals are super good, there is just nothing to put there as a 5 if you have hs+puncture+quiver+smoke
simply from the weapon proc from fire vs cold
Tongue.... And maybe reen(for melee)
dont i need 1lp to reroll it ?
@flint turret @lunar socket @pearl forge sorry for the ping, but in case you would be interested 😄 low life lightning Lethal Mirage with Black Blade; t4 Julra, Cenotaph of Worlds map+boss, 10/10 harbringer rush (I just wish I could do it faster, tbh), normal Aberroth
https://youtu.be/fqgt7XB9X9A
your puncture arent clearing mobs?

@clever tinsel i changed up the build a bit. I've gotten aerials as high as 400-500k im pretty sure now 😄
i think a couple people are at 1k corruption with it
Well yes, but there is a solid chance your next Nihilis from Nemesis will be bricked with some crap affix sooo even those bricked legendaries can be used to reroll (as long as the unique you want to reroll is same or lower LP/amount of affixes as the one you're sacrificing)
what fire can do, cold does better
if I could take 1 resistance to cap for mapping which one should I take as balista
Fire hs has done better for me so far, but I am going to try some other specs with it and see how it goes. 250 corrupt with cold felt bad compared to fire with the spec I tried
In the leaderboard top marksman are fire no ? :3
tongue in both hands i assume? what are good stats to slam on it?
holy, boss dps still good?
then im pretty sure you dont have the proper gear for cold.
ya, shadow falcons scale out of control. I really want +1 shadow gloves
ya they go hard, I'm using these scuffed ones rn
Oh the bow... But isn't fire one have more flat bow damage than cold one?
Or... You mean cold penetration on that bow?
I'm using shurikem instead of puncture, not sure if I have selected a wrong defense skill.
Quite possible, I was lead to believe you could basically interchange between fire and cold with skills and the bow. This is my current gear and fire spec, 250 corrupt.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Arros/character/Quiviandra
man id use those probably. i bricked a good pair yesterday haha
Ballista is still super awesome, love my build and love playing with all the different skills available. If you're a ballista, you definitely need to be using the new Dark Quiver, and try out the new belt Elecoe's Innovation, it's totally insane!
oh, does fire hs not get puncture?
Tongue offhand is mandatory almost (unless you really want to go dual swords for weapons of choise)
Mainhand reen can be good, 4lp rainbow, or another tongue. Most likely you would want t7 flat on at least one weapon, maybe even both. Or second can be phys %
i just realized I have 4 shadows and 3/5 on wings of shadow
that cant be right xdd
I'm not playing with actually but i will retry for sure
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/omdKXwqB @clever tinsel where im at atm
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (21) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (62)
▸ Health: 2,459, Regen: 23.72/s
▸ Mana: 104.53, Regen: 7.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 149 Dex / 3 Int / 2 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 116% / 150% / 131% / 121% / 100% / 108%
▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 584
▸ Dodge Chance: 37% (1299)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 56% (3,823)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 108%
Does anyone have a loot filter for falcon umbral blades they could share? ^-^
The maxroll one has a lot of stuff showing that doesn't really seem usable.
wait... what.. is this cold or fire?
I could give you my endgame loot filter if you want, but it's not updated, I need to hide the old idols and clean it up with the new affixes
what corruption are you pushing currently
I'm nooby inexperienced LE player, so I'd appreciate it a lot :>
that helmet is sexy
I can just avoid looking at regular idols xD
is it just me or shadows kinda not worth specing into
ran out on 5 fire res lmao D:
Atm it is the fire version, but i respected into cold yesterday to try it out with swapping the bow out (with crit/at speed) and the rest of the gear the same and it felt worse. Could be gear, could be the spec I was following. Not sure
yeah still
you need RoW bow for cold at least.
your current relic is for cold
Yeah i have RoW when I am using cold
where u see full potennsial dmg with ubrel blade like what passive note?
I'm not at home so I can't ss it
Not even close 
I'm actually running the fire HS version without cold boots
If you play fire you play fire 🔥
That shows all Tier 7 and dual exalted items, plus hides most set items and champion affixes until tier 5
@dusky schooner oh you're phys huh, ill swap to phys too eventually
Thanks a bunch.
And it highlights the ballista affixes, even tier 1, so you can get those shards easily
oh yeah, fire doesnt have puncture. no wonderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
ya, falcon wont scale with cold, so by going cold...you're just nerfing all your bird dmg by not focusing phys as well
O, I play the umbral falcon so not ballistics, but I'll try it out still xD
anything should be better than the generic one
I'm playing umbral + ballistas, it's so awesome
Yeah, i was debating swapping a couple points from heart drain to get puncture, see if it makes a big difference or not. But the spec i followed for RoW didn't actually specialize into puncture, so i am wondering if that's why it felt like shit
yeah fair, phys also saves you a bunch of points and a 2x2 idol slot since you dont need throne
yeah it is. 100%
I'm not a fan of what I'm seeing. Sd was looking better. And single target is not that great either. Hs does the same but at range
yeah
I will try it out, do you have any SS of the tree for puncture?
btw @dusky schooner i dont think rapid pursuit in dive bomb tree is worth the 3/3
You will try Puncture with dragonsong ???
yeah gimme a sec
i just unspecced it completely and got the 2 bleed nodes for more dps
does bleed do anything significant?
Possibly, will try with both dragonsong and RoW
never used it before
Idk, I kinda find it about the same with Sd, just less stuns
Which one is RoW ?
Which one do you like more overall?
and you proc it a lot with 3 crimson shrouds
Cold hs, reign of winter
i have +1 so just -1 debilitation for yourself
that wont impact shadow birds though, but you're probably right that it's worth trying
Ty, i'll try it out.
For sure it will bé good with the cold version yes
Probably the lightning one tbh, it feels smoother than just blasting LM 😄 and a bit tankier, even tho this has less dodge
oh, your video spoiled me what's fading brink. Thanks I can learn the process in advanced
Oops 😦
Since it's very easy to swap between the 2 types, it's easy to test
I see, good for you then. I'd like to see the planner later and we can maybe even improve it further
I'm actually running with mountain boots for HS fire , do i really lost a lot of dps without running cold dmg boots ? (Actually i can just spamm and spamm and proc HS daggers and flame burst with a cool mana gestion)
Sure !
I think Hachadino has some build with 2x Julra ring... might be interesting to try out with 2x 16dex... but thats kinda less ward because no 2x Nomad rings 
Even though it's cold damage from boots, it's still a lot of +flat damage. It makes a difference
plannar with ingame stats in description... I just need another helmet with 16dex/t7 %inc damage with sword and lightning dmg on belt instead of %mana regen
How do you get the blade of chaos?
and maybe better 3LP Nomads but thats +- whatever 😄
anyone looking for a fun new insane build, check out skelly rogue necro, the damage is off the charts. it's been slept on for a couple years🤭
Yheap scaling with bow dmg etc ... Sure
Do you have a video?
Lagon harbringer... I think 200 corruption? Ooooor you can get it from Aberroth kill... 😄
i'm starting to flesh out a flurry/shuriken build, need opinions 
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bandb5xo
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (73)
▸ Health: 1,249, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 18/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 29 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 36% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 7% / 15% / 8%
▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 250
▸ Dodge Chance: 25% (866)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 9% (209)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 73%
Flurry / Shurikens / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver
That woven echo is like an arena for all harbingers...lol chain battles
Oh ok. Want a blade dancer build Maxroll only had one option. Don’t see any other guides except YouTube. Haha
Yeah, I dont kno what +-corruption they're suppose to be, but they're a bit tanky and hit harder than usual harbringers 😄 and when i went there for the first time, sometimes a 2nd harbringer spawned twice... multiple times... 😄 probably a bug
But it's not rogue 
^^
I'm probably dumb to read it wrongly
bro @dusky schooner this just dropped on a 300c map from a rare mob, no prophecy 💀
wtf
If you watch the video from Perry on youtube, thats a good start... without black blade, you can just farm it out with Puncture (top right nodes that apply shadow dagger stacks) which is enough to kill 200c bosses
its dont go under 2,4?
😂 Do EHG just carry 10 harbingers from different timelines into an arena, give a name then it's a woven echo?
Yep 😄 I dont mind, I think its pretty cool and the arena looks great
rogues/warrior/deatrh knights are similiar and you can pick a combination of melee minions
also way too often LM shows a very different numbers... no clue why really 😄
that's a super long chain battle... 😵
nice
i still need a lot of gear but have to do m+ in wow for weeklies zzz
Priorities 
has anyone swapped from RoW HS to frostbite? curious how they feel in comparison
the only bonus I see is the harbinger from the ending storm... we can avoid these waves completely now
I can still squeeze some more damage in... better slammed belt, rings, more damage from helmet affixes, could get another damage from body armor, I can swap to Ucenui relic aaand swap few more idols for extra lightning pen 😄
also outrunning Rayeh and Gaspar harbringer's pizza slice/tri-beam attacks
Maybe what you like is you can challenge all harbingers once time without farming stability and timeline bosses. This is a good collection for harbinger challenges.
ohhhh make sense.
For me... This woven echo will too hard to complete. Kill single harbinger is challenging already, kill 10 harbingers in single time... emmmmmmmmm Maybe challenge normal Aberroth is better. At least I can focus on regular skills only.
any low life builds using nightbringer quiver?
Ye its still faster to farm whatever timeline boss you need with Envy glyphs.. buut you get 2 weaver points from this, so thats sweet 😄
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (21) / Marksman (68)
▸ Health: 3,911, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 1,090.38, Regen: 13.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 46 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 65% / 78% / 64% / 65% / 67% / 71%
▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 782
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (0)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,865)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 95%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%
Detonating Arrow / Shurikens / Shift / Puncture / Smoke Bomb
thats a high gb chance
dodge > gb convert
more interested in mana scaling for detonating arrow
first shot would be like
630 more damage multi
if youre full mana
yeah more good things you can get if your build is more powerful... 🙃 My builds aren't good enough yet
with the mana node alone
anyone know if decimating strike is adding crit chance that scales with increased crit chance from gear? or is it just flat bonus ontop , from heartseeker
to the base
5 base +2 per point
Well this is after a lot of changes around... during the first try I spend there over one hour because my dmg was so low 😄 and plenty of people here now play fire/cold heartseeker, so can always post stuff here too
so its increased then, thats huge
no, its added
yeah I can verify fading brink is a pure dps testing like heart of the hive
🙏
I'll think fading brink is a special challenge prepared for players who experienced in 1.1 and want new challenges
im doing that with hearseeker instead of smoke bomb, det arrow for aoe and heartseeker for singletarget, det arrow with 4 charges and lots onf lightning tendrils
it'll 2x difficulty for players who don't try 1.1 contents
Even tho harbringers there have boosted life and damage, its still nice to train mechanics on them... + you can buy that echo from woven npc (I think?), throw it to some timeline and just have it there to try whenever you want (just dont reset the timeline
) since even If you fail, it doesnt reduce your timeline stability and once you finished it, even if failed before, the loot is still the same
hold on... can multiple shurikens hit the same target?
does this work when casting shurikens with Shift only?
no
Either throw shurikens yourself or casted by Dancing Strikes
Turtle actually upgraded 2 out of 6 1LP Exsas to 2LP 
guess im making a marksman
is Crit Chance / Crit Multi a good stat to stack with a bleed build heartseeker/hail of arrows ?
I’m guessing no
Should be fine for like 200-400c?
DoT doesnt crit. so no
Whats LP stat priority after cs/attack speed & crit multi?
I love the flavour of Falconer but the classic Umbral Blades build wasn’t for me long term I think
Cold pen?
i found a 3lp 0.0
Well it was pretty fun until I changed smoke bomb to Traversal
Oh huge 
does this phys penetration from heartseeker work with any bleed i apply? even other skills?
but i have no use for it
I think Umbral Blades might be more fun as autobomber though
With the new weaver idols, playing some lowlife/hybrid is actually pretty cool... just for the hybrid its better with Wall of Nothing, but ye 😄 3LP Exsa is great
during season 1, i would love to have my hands on this stupid lp3 exsa on my lightning mm
"and bleed it inflicts" so i would guess only that specific bleed
@rotund plover it probably bugged, but I could use the LP turtle infinitely... 😄
does shred armor also inc. dmg taking from bleed ?
Nope, only hits
if i go melee detonating arrow, for the sake of the passive points, does it still count as a 'bow skill'?
I dont think so, but I havent played it myself
yumyum
Wait I have a 2 LP Exsa, where’s it used?
Any HS marksman who defeated Uber Aberroth already?
isnt this more or less the same? armor shred and phys res shred ?
different things completely
dam got a second one but i dont have 180 stats if i swap out t7 dex crab 
Well any low life pretty much 😄 I play it here, then there used to be low life sync strike shadow cascade bladedancer with Cleaver, but no idea If anyone still plays that tbh
https://youtu.be/fqgt7XB9X9A
armor and res are different defenses
Oh I haven’t engaged with low life mechanics at all yet
you're right that shredding either would increase physical hit damage but they do function differently
so shredding both armor and phys res both increases DoT dmg / bleed dmg ye ?
physical shred increase bleed/physical dot
the difference is armor doesn't apply to dots and does apply to non phys damage (just at a lower rate)
armor doesnt affect dot
ok ty
while phys res does apply to dots but only applies to phys damage
I just swapped over to the full umbral blade falcon setup from the leveling build, are all the stats not listed in the maxroll guide useless? (so no phys damage, no regular throwing damage, no bow damage?)
Just beat Aberroth (normal) for the first time 
Can someone clarify for me to scale HS what the dragonsong LP priority is (3/4) I know its attack speed/crit & crit multi, but the 3rd, should it be cold or fire pen or what?
can this procc bleeds too? Rain of Arrows that is.. from just chance to bleed or passives like barbed arrows ?
me too just kill abveroth with cold heartseeker
yes it can bleed, but it will only bleed as much as listed on your stats sheet basically
generally speaking not worth it
it's a cold build, you can't proc shadow daggers with it, throwing damage(regular is what its refering to)
bow damage doesnt do anything really relevant to the build
HoA is one of the best bleed builds. Get a sanguine and go brrrr
Bleed has tons and tons of uniques that make it good so the progression is definitely there. I enjoyed my bleed hammerdin build
aight ty, Sanguine Hoard u mean right?
im currently sitting theory crafting a bleed heartseeker/hail of arrow build. 😛 this is what i love the most about LE, just trying to come up with something cool and test how it works and farm the items on SSF for it.
nice lil typo lol
yep. i'll find you an endgame build you can strive for
I was considering that with the heartseeker helm
to make it not eat black arrow buffs
one of the acid flask nodes gives "citical" chance its very good
I was looking for a build that used HS as well as HoA with the bleed uniques I was referring to and I think this one will be good. haven't played it, but knowing how good bleeds are with those uniques, it'll be good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaqdXiWiSbA&t=213s
things are starting to get juiced
thanks! ill use it as guidance. I like triksters builds, he's good
Which of these 3 bows should I go for?
unsure what this means. i guess its basically just = crit multi stat now counts as phys pen with bleed?
i was thinking something dumb like this though i assume damage is gonna be questionable
dex
100% +16 dex
alright thanks both
is there a strat when slamming legendaries to almost gurantee a good stat or the stat u want?