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k not sure i have any havocs
then sell it
i slapped bow speed on it and listed it at 3.5m
28 potential is sketchy
maybe someone will yolo
smh nomrla Aberroth feels like a white mob from 100c compared with the Uber Aberroth... 😄
his last slap can even get stunned, so...
My build probably doesnt have enough damage and survivability for Uberroth, at least some efficient kill unless I want to spend 24h straight trying to get a kill 😄
whats a good heartseeker build?
cold
the ice ne?
this bow and mourning frost
Anyone mind san checking this build? I wanted to make an ele arrows build, so I thought phys puncture to build the arrows then fire heartseeker to spend em. Build isn't fully optimized (almost no slams, etc) but as a goal for endgame, any glaring issues? I suppose besides using ele arrows in the first place. ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A1dm3aeo
lol so I can facetank Aberroth's 1/4 void aoe that did 2.3k to me, but Uberroth's small blue ball did nearly 5k... kinda wild 😄
Anyone interestd in watching some nomral Aberroth kills? Idk how many I'll do, but I want some nice loot... 😄
Which variant of hs build is considered best atm? Havent rly looked around mostly following maxrol so shurikens conderstrike and fire hs with dragonsong and those dex to dmg boots. But was wondering if i should look around of something else is much better
what is best way to farm
Ucenui's Sphere ?
Unique relic prophecies
when you drop one, unlock those two and just imprint it there
Rune of Ascendance on any normal-to-exalted relic to gamble for Ucenui
enrage rares, give them 60 increase AS and they drop more runes
Can roll for them in CoF prophecies too, Weaver tree has rune nodes too.... hmmm what else... echo reward runes but thats probably more luck to get RoA from them
what is the best rogue build this season so far ?
dont ascendance for ucenui, you need lp on it
maybe ascen for 1 ucennui then put them on the imprint tree
finally
isnt that amazing for ward per shadow creation ?
the 83% has to be based on your life pool too right
Some health/ward hybrid ye
60-185 ward decay threshold so kinda very low roll, but that endu threshold is max rolled 
ever since they nerf ward retention, this ward threshold has to be the new way
I run t6 ward on shadow creation on helmet and t5 on body and honestly its a very nice amount of ward with Smoke + Lethal Mirage 😄
maybe ill just run this as heartseeker with black arrow and smoke shadow genearion
i need to generate shadow for the shadow HS node anyway
free 1500 ward god damn
+4 heartseeker and shadow creation on body for this 2 lp
Yeah that would be great 😄
egg of the forgoten... i need second copy of item to put it there righrt ?
Using this for a fire flask falconer, shame the spell damage does not apply
The Nemesis egg? no
so if i have equiped item i can replace it with and i will still have it equiped ?
No the item goes away until you challenge Nemesis again
Can not find Talons for the freaking life of me rn
what about if you're only doing phys?
only phys doesnt have support atm
also damn thats a sexy +10 crit
sadge
phys desperately needs flat, there is not enough phys flat
thanks I guess xD
There is some tanky setup for the umbral blades falcon build?
i agree, the additional water orbs would even further increase our dmg. But the relic is quite easy to get with lp. Already have 3x 3lp. It also provides additional resistances (good for mourningfrost dex stacking) + it fits the cold theme 🙂
I think its a cool addition to the build even without the int/att balance.
What's the best way to farm Longbow bases?
do they show up anywhere or only at certain area level
wtf is this helmet
wow the bow with attunement bricks the balance
+int on gloves then
Is there any build for an elemental bow of some sort. I want to play a d2 style lighting arrow build
Shadow daggers takes added damage from flat melee and throwing yes?
both yes
Excellent thanks
Where can Ifind list of weaver idol affixes?
If you hold alt, it says that drops need to follow normal drop rules, so I doubt it works
how are folks using ucenui sphere with RoW? Are they actually putting on Int gear to balance the attuement?
Am I blind or can I not see anything for adorned idols (2x2)
prophecies, then weaver it so more drop. Then utilize weaver for +/- LP and for swapping the stats if need be
If I don't have a Talon yet should I/can I just use a Mace/Kris combo?
just using it without the extra orb casts
...what are weaver chambers? cemeteries and tombs?
@flint turret so I threw away all 4 of my 4%health/8%ele resist idols, threw the new idols there and pumped the damage of SD a bit higher... saldly I dont really have perfectly rolled weaver idols, but for bursting bosses... why not 😄
Anyone playing Ballista? I could use some help
lol now pretty much every LM click stuns Aberroth... 
- I should get crit multi on Large idols
man i love weaver idols
thosr are weavers, the one you looking for is enchanted
just dropped
I havent even bothered enchanting my SD idols... 😄
is there no way to filter out poopy lagonian idols?
just set item type to idols and add the affixes you want to see
hide everything else
truee
i think i can also just hide all "General Idol" affixes
to get rid of lagonian ones
nvm weaver can have those too
I don't understand what this has to do with my question
Hey guys, sorry if is a repeated question here, but what is one of the best masteries/builds right now?
I'm playing marksman multishot, but I'm not enjoying that much
Try heartseeker
Low life lightning Lethal Mirage with Black Blade, Im just trying to tweak up damage so it doesnt suck on bosses
I'm playing fire heartseeker rn and its pretty fun
Idk, I just hit empowered monolith
i recommend triksters build
So far so good
Sounds interesting
I was using his build for multishot
I hope there will be some Heartseeker Uberroth killing build... 😄
ah 😕
i did the top top planner
your damage is x4 multi , 13x increased, 8 hits, 2.5 attack speed
final dps (sitting still and shooting) is 1.6m
Sorry meant to reply to someone else there, you’re right.
really?
there is limit on how many procs can be with icicles
?
sadge
@vapid arrow yo how did you Uberroth bleed Hs progress went? 😄
i just like anchor. i guess ill go hp ward hybrid since i got this just now
maybe i should swap then
umbral blades falconer is strong? Thought about respecing to falconer
Anyone know the best way to farm caches?
Interested if there’s a way to farm out a ton for favor
And heartseeker does way more than 1.6 mil
Almost every build is between 6-10mil
do you have a planner for it
the planner i calc has double red ring 160 dex total
the black arrow shadow and the new quiver tech might push it to 2m
add mana stacking for some MoM effect 
but then i have to decrease the damage by 20-30% because you cant shoot at max speed
Im just starting the heartseeker build, but trying to understand how burning dagger gets triggered from cinderstrike without using that skill? because it doesnt look like we select blades fo the pyre in the heartseeker tree. Also where is this dragonfire skill noted in teh game? I have dragonsong but see nothing about a dragonfire effect on the weapon
where is this 6m heartseeker come from ?
Man I was loving dragon heartseeker but you really can't kills any Uber ?
That's sucks
i think im cooking
im thinking of going back to dragonsong , my defense is decent now
Throw Hs 🤔 imagine If we could also enchant the unique idol 
wait that dodge is inflated, proper number is 76%
Does dragonsong deal more damage
Never test icicle before, just straight up dragonsong
dragonsong gives you 240% increase cold damage during boss if you have ucenui sphere
in theory giga single heartseeker should be cracked for this
because u also take this
3 second cooldown is massive bad when your attack speed is 2.5
im using acid flask
not heartseeker
the helmet cooldown is also 3 seconds
so it lines up
so u just never press it
the helmet limit you to 1 heartseeker at a time
i know that
if you use heart as a utility might as well take the charges and get dark shroud
ur just letting it use every 3 seconds
2% light pen... bruuuuuuuuuuh....
i mean its gonna do giga damage still
u also can max this out
u just take -throwing cost
because throwing build
i did planner for this too, max 700k, so i stopped caring
cause you apparently dont understand how the build works if u are refering to the Falcon bomber one
its not
There is a good reason for it
Good luck, its like 1 in 71. I burned like 30 runes, im level 90ish, emp. monoliths, COF and still no Razors
but i might just stop anyway cause the Aerial Assault control bug on gamepad and wasd
i dont have enough mana already to spam smoke+black arrown on cd
might be possible if used with drelkors tho
meh, if i were to drop peak id do it only for tundra
Hey guys ! I'm a bit lost, trying to cap my resistances right now.
Trying to go for umbral blades falconeer.
I have a few items i dont know if some are useless, can someone please take a look and let me know what should i go for next ?
And what should be taken off straight away?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Apw2ZRmo
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (26) / Falconer (35)
▸ Health: 1,085, Regen: 34.48/s
▸ Mana: 98.34, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 16 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 65% / 143% / 87% / 64% / 21% / 47% / 55%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 217
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (120)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 14% (244)
▸ Block Chance: 5%, Mitigation: 9% (32)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
to match int=att for ucenui
Nihilis to increase mana, maybe weaver rings to increase mana? 😄 idk, MoM could be fun to try
Hello peeps, how does dex stacking compare to going for just fire damage for example ?
get better nihi bro
I think my very first Nihilis? or super early one... and got t5 from Nemesis
that is very nice
Now... not very rogue question, but... how many echoes are there in total in a web?
It still eventually ends with Shade
Does Lethal Cadence increase the ailment damage a bow skill does or only the hits?
nope
I have a question I have item with LP2 and I want to move there exalted affix i have on item can I move only one affix and later move another affix from different exalted ?
No, it uses all of them at once.
If you do tier 2 or higher of Temporal Sanctum, you can guarantee 1 affix to move there and one random out of the 3 remaining, all at once
so if I have LP2 I need exalted with two exalted afficxxes ?
Only one is needed, it'll take a non exalted affix instead.
and if it will be tier 2 temporal sanctum it will automaticaly take exalted affix and I am able to chose another ?
always exalted with 4 affixes (sealed affixes dont count and cant be transfered to unqiues)
You pick what affix it automatically takes, only one. Anything past that is RNG.
cold vs fire heartseeker ?
ahh ok
cold is better
but with dragonsong
+crit on dragonsong is curently wasted cause you cap crit with t7 hybrid and peak too easily
Thats a hot take... 
unless you are giga tanky, then fire is better
you're gonna need giga gear to survive weaver stuff at 300+
the reason why i leave melee cascade for cold HS because i can be ranged, weaver mobs are very melee unfriendly
tbh im at 100 and i dont have bad gear and still am not tanky AND i struggle killing stuff
you may be missing some multipliers
you most likely lack crit multi, armor pen, cold pen
cold is clearly better if you can stack these with the cold passive
otherwise fire is more damage but you have to be close to melee
does that even work? it's not a mana cost of Burning Daggers; it's mana consumed, which I thought was different
i do want to make a dragonsong lategame build with burning dagger, i think i have the mana to sustain spamming it with urzil pride
4lp urzil is very achievable, waiting for 4lp dragonsong
but if I can stack those - ice is better ?
yeah cold has much more access to cold pen
oh wait that doesnt work true
4 water orbs is max ?
exalted or rare prophecy
I can't find any whatsoever they never ever evre ever drop and I have my filter set for them
? any bow works
It doesn't have to be a longbow base???
there is an argument to go dragonsong because reign bricks your equal stats
and since you stack dex for cold base damage, ucenui even as fire has half effect
going dragonsong doesn't mean you deal full fire, you are still stacking flat cold, so increased cold still works, just that your pen and your increased cold has half value
Sorry, so the base of the bow doesn't matter for rune of ascendency?
i dont think so?
Welcome to the club where today's mistakes are tomorrow's repeats
Hey there, has anyone a good lootfilter for rogue into Bladedancer? The filters I found are for lv50+ and I am not fond of doing one myself tbh.
Any help is greatly appreciated 👍
i never bothered checking base, i dont think its a thing in le?
its not a thing never was
I have to find the guide for cold tho, have no idea what to respec
rip
Yeah any base, any rarity from normal to exalted
but if you do a rare/exalted prophecy, then you have 45% chance not to use the ascendancy rune 🙂
RIGHT
that makes so much sense
thank you smart people
Follow up question because they seem waaaaaay more difficult to get
what's the best way to get Razorfall?
go do unique boots timeline
take increased tomb and ceme
take timeline double reward
if you finish a tomb you get another chance at that echo's reward
yes you can if you delete another omnis
oh lmfao\
Thank you
im level 95 and if i have nothing else to put in the passive tree is exuberance good?
also if you have memory echo, find somewhere with alot of boots reward and use it there
there is also another woven echo that gives guaranteed tomb everywhere, but it's rare
you got 6/6 here?
exuberance I usually just go with 1 point... surely there is something more useful 😄
i have that one
Is talons of Valor significantly better than the other options anyways? Wondering what the alternatives are
How can I check my ballista's crit chance?
is there anything i can do to benefit my character?
what rolls i care for umbral blades build
I'd go for Hooked Blades in Bladedancer for better and more Armor shred; Raptor's Wings in Falconer for 5% more damage with Haste or Wilderness Scout If you need more health+flat dodge
not bad actually, only with wall+anchor, stable ward
i dont get it... i am removing my armour and i have more phys res than when its equiped wtf
need some on shadow creation and we good i guess
mmuuua
Looks like its gopnna be fun build
yo how are you guys getting aoe with heartseeker? my single target is great but having a hard time clearing
Puncture proc
oh shit why didn't I think of that. like with straight through on the left side of the passive tree right?
yeah traversal smoke+ black arrows make tons of shadows. i guess illl make t7 ward on shadow peak
Guys, is it good roll for Umbral Blades Falconer?
I just don't know if damage over time is scailing my build
i think not
remember, puncture bricks your HS dusk shroud generation, i think it gets reduced by like 1/3, so remove dusk shroud entirely
It does? Why?
yeah that makes sense. I actually wasn't using that anyway
Damn I hope this gets 1LP from Nemesis
Do I need any res over cap or all of them for it to work?
I am concerned though about the fact that I have to take exposed which makes it so that it doesn't seek a new target on kill. is that as bad as I think it is?
in order to get dusk you have to recurve, node leading to puncture stops your arrow from recurving if tyou kill an enemy
Anyone have any suggested builds for rogue? I’m kinda new and wanted to run blade master but the damage couldn’t compare to mage.
above
usually every time you shoot an arrow you have 7 recurve, but with puncture, if you arrow kills an enemy, that arrow does 0 recurve, so no dusk
75% is the usual cap, so 115% If you want the full reduction bonus
Yea, but do i need 115% of all res or just 1?
Just 1 and that 1 will get damage reduction
Kinda weird, will be hard to setup then
yall should i switch to the umbral blades setup if i don't have the razorfall boots?
or should i farm for them before switching?
Eh to make it clear, If you get 115% if Fire, you'll have 20% damage reduction from fire and nothing else (from the body armor) - you'd need extra resists above 75% to have another damage reduction to that damage type
that's pretty bad
I understand, thats why Im saying thats kinda mid on rogue, hard to setup
at least without red rings
idk, depends how easily you can stack the resistance... and you dont really need to stack all of them
the body would be better if the lp is not so high
So, I wonder how many Uberroth echoes I would need to fill entire echo web just with Uberroth echoes...? 
Sir, do you have a mental illness-
I think that would explain a lot

Still got 169 Aberroth eyes to do... but it seems like after, idk, 20 runs you get an error saying you need to insert a key even tho its there so you need to relog... smh EHG is slowing me down
Decision has been made... 😄 now to farm a very good exalted one to slap on Ucenui
I do not really experience this as I am firing a bunch of arrow always. You are limited on the amount of stacks per second I think the skill limits you more than the puncture talent.
do you have `8-10 on average ?, cause that's what you should be getting
how are you getting +4s consistently? rune of havoc?
I do sometimes 12
without dark arrow ?
Yup
thats crazy
I have insane gear though
I've had this for a long time... prophecies and pray you get the one you want 😄 I'll try to imprint the +4 exalted one to the weaver tree and see If I get lucky with that
Hi everyone.
I'm using aerial assault with featherstorm but the placement is a bit random and doesn't appears where my mouse is when i'm moving. Is that a bug ?
cool thank you
Hi guys!
It's my first time playing LE and I have a question:
I've been following this (https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/falconer-leveling-guide#passives-header) leveling guide for rouge.
Now, I've hit lvl 70 and I want to transition to this build (https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/umbral-blades-falconer-guide#skills-header).
The thing is I don't have the items that are used here and I won't for a while. I've checked where I can farm them, and the most important boots are like 3 zones ahead.
So the question is, should I respec to this build anyway now, or should I keep playing the leveling one. The only skill that changes it Umbral blades - swapped for explosive traps, and the weapon changes from daggers to bow and quiver.
id wait till you have the required/some of the recommended uniques
That "endgame / aspirational" gear tab is one big trap
guy probably forgot to make two different ones 😄
how are you guys getting tankyness?
my damage is rlly good but dodge and armor are at like 30%
Allright, thanks! That makes sense. I don't really lack dmg now, I've tried arena and got to monsters lvl 92, and then I've died. So I'll just keep pushing the main thing and try getting my core items
yeah, they are exactly the same 😄
The boots shouldnt be suuuper hard to find, If you go with MG (player market) faction you can surely buy some, If you go with CoF (self-boosting lootfest) faction, you can just pick prophecies for unique boots and it should drop sooner or later... those red rings there... are way harder to find
anybody know wtf the woven grasps node actually does for heartseeker
also this is my first rogue, what's a decent amount of dodge? seems really difficult to get high %
I went with CoF since I play SSF 🙂
I still don't completly understand this mechanic, but I'll figure it out I guess
I also have some funny, low number, but I do see "dogged" sometimes. I think standing in Your smoke bomb helps
Slow chance and an asthetic change.
yeah that's my only consistent source with the silver shroud charges or whatever they're called for the guaranted dodge
a lot of people doing high dodge builds rely on using shift to constantly dash around to maintain dodge bonus
confirmed only aesthetic?
As you gain XP, you also gain favour to spend in CoF lobby (so xp = favour; spending favour also gives you progress to the ranks); so in first timeline the best is to get 10% bonus xp blessing
- you spend favour by buying prophecies you want, its like a mini-quests for loot... usually you just go somewhere, kill stuff and it drops you a bunch of loot
mine goes like 33% -> 83% after shifting rn
Even the altt text says it.
oh you right
do I need to fill the "stability" bar all the way to get this EXP boost?
Becasuse I only did it to the point where I could unlock the quest to go to the next one, and I didn't have EXP boost as an option - I have unique drop chance
Stability doesnt really have to do anything with the xp.... in normal monolist, you get stability by finishing echoes... once you have enough stability, you can do the first echo quest (that yellow symbol on the stability bar)... then same for 2nd echo quest and the 3rd one is always a timeline boss.
In Empowered monoliths (base corruption ((xp, magic find, difficulty)) is always 100) - there you dont have to do the 2 quest echoes and go straight to the boss once you get enough stability filled for the 3rd yellow symbol
In empowered, you kill the timeline boss => get (at least) one Gaze of Orobyss => go and kill Shade of Orobyss (found as echo in the echo web at the end of branches) => that resets your timeline, consumes up to 4 Gazes and based on that it increases corruption in that timeline
Are No Man's Land and Blast Rain bugged together? It doesn't show the max number of traps it should shoot for Explosive Trap 😢
Okey, so I would have to do that, if I want that 10% exp blessing? I just didn't have that as an option to chose after defeating the boss.
Transition to the endgame Umbral build feels janky coming from the levelling one lol
Mostly just making Smoke bomb your traversal instead of assault
Oh you mean the blessing 😄 No, you kill the boss and it rolls 3 random blessings (in normal monoliths its only 3 I think) to pick from... in normals those blessings are weaker, I think max roll you get get from normal monolith is 6%; up to 10% in Empowered one
- so just need to kill the boss and hope you get the right blessing with as highest roll
Is there a way to check if one bow is better than another for my build? I presume the ingame tooltip isn't good enough
dont take exp its bait take rune for havoc
I see, so I was just unlucky with it. Is there a way to fight the boss again and roll those blessings again? - I see now, I would have to get the stability up there again and the quest will be available again, and then it rolls the blessing again. Am I right?
was plannin on going a blade dancer rouge after my acolyte lmao
now its lookin even better
Actually yeah, could be more useful now... buuut you still need favour => get items to have some gear to use Havoc runes on
yep
In Empowered monoliths you'll also do a questline for Forgotten Knights faction and 8th rank gives you a bonus for Blessings
I wish to swap mastery but elder Gaspar doesnt give me the option
@little temple Shift ward with ward on shadow could be quite cool 😄 my shift CD is 2.1s on lightning LM; 1.8s on shadow daggers LM and could even combine it with experimental belt 😄
i think experimental ward on shift per missin mana is best
And another one - is there some Weaver tree I can copy, that You could recommend to follow? It's great to have so many options, but I don't know which ones I want / which are the most beneficial 😄
Coooould be... but LM should count as traversal, so not really for Black Blade but Fulgurites... some ppl have mentioned that before
On Weaver tree?
The 4 imprints are probably the best ones by far. The weaver maps being able to show up randomly is super strong, so is targeting gear
tree is just imrprints and more cems
I don’t know what to put in my imprints lol
No idea tbh, that really depends what exactly you want to focus on... Ive cooked something for myself, no idea how efficient it is or not 😄
Once you get talon/razor you put those to get a good talon/razor 🙂
Allright, I'll do my research 🙂
Falconer feels so clunky after you take the movement away from Aerial Assault
do boss-specific drops even work when imprinted
Can I use the item that I imprinted still?
No
If so good idea
Hooooly Nemesis gave it 1LP... still can empower it 1 time 😄
Are you planning on posting a guide at some point?
Me? Prob not but you can import my char on le tools I think?
Thanks for Your help!
Doing a cold heartseeker build and just got a 1LP Reign of Winter.
Any way I can determine whether crit multiplier or cc+bow attack speed would be better to slam?
Well, can your icicles crit?
Feeling the pain of not having a PoB equivalent lol
(Most likely flat crit piority)
Yeah they can crit
man I was dying way less playing HS over the AA/Umbral bomber
idk why I switched off HS
Often enough? Cause idk how you’re giving them flat crit otherwise without the bow affix
so has anyone tested any heartseeker dot builds? how do they compare to the RoW or Dragonsong builds?
Do most falconer builds remove the aerial assault tag?
assuming it goes off spell crit, i'm currently at 30% spell crit because my base crit is 30%. bow crit chance is 42%. Crit multi is 230%
Currently on bleed HS build...is it better to switch to dragonsong build?
Can you share a build guide on that?
hybrid crit+attackspeed prio, secondary would be crit mult
Hey guys, any1 playing the heartseeker build?
If I take Deep Rust on Heartseeker, does that mean that the Armor Shred chance from Puncture also will give Heartseeker more Poison chance?
any LP. so if you have a 2 LP item, you can guarantee 1 of the affixes, but the other will still be random
Not familiar xD
Does the passive node "Shadow Weaver's Grasp" for Heartseeker skill, reduce the original 100% recurve to 60%, or it makes the minumum recurve 160% ?
Im thinking of playing ballistas, but I am worried about survivability since everything I have read so far says the build is basically paper. Are there more tanky variations, or is the squishiness overexaggerated
If your a rogue survive gonna suck regardless of what you do xD
Best thing we have is glancing blows with an arrowguard maybe
Rogue is a glass cannon, hence why we need silver shroud and dusk shroud
So the chances of getting randomly one shot while running monos is pretty high?
If you don’t dodge mechanics
You gotta move on this class. No such thing as face tanking on rogue
WELL, that depends: if you kill them before they can react, your chances of dying are null xD
Haha yeah, I figured the best defensive layer is insta killing everything on the build
For the record falconer ballista was very strong last season
I switched over to endgame version of Umbral Falconer and I feel janky af now
Thinking of making an Alt instead now lmao
Might have just swapped too early
I am not a fan of the Falconer, I like the Shadow Dagger Bladedancer and now figuring out Marksman
Dive bomb falc was really fun season 1
@scenic otter@serene crane@flint turret @zenith bridge How are your heartseeker marksman pass the boss combat in the cemetery in Cenotaph of Worlds if you're passed that?
I find this is an impossible thing for me. For my build, at least.
I havent started playing Heartseeker yet 😛
hey do you guys have a trick to find some Hybrid health mods?
i feel like the only way to push forward on my Heartseeker is getting those mods but for the life of me i cant find them
was okay, just avoid moving webs on the floor
died 2 tiems because i didnt expect them to tick 900\per tick on 150 corr
Oh this one! 😄 Ye Ive done it, buuuut that boss is pretty hardcore... that lightning dot aoe very often spawning on top of me, hitting for 5k... 😄 at 500corruption 😄
guys how do you use Elecoes Abandon without dying from not having potions
good luck higher on.... 😄
I had to undo it, and tbh made no difference swapping them. Aerial as non traversal with wasd made my falcon and umbrals glitch all over the place
but how do you avoid them... Under double bosses and multiple small mobs hunting you
And tbh it let me take better skill points without swapping it. Plus clear time faster
I could see at High corruption the need for aerial as a non traversal, but so far no need
My aerial also hits about 5x the damage of umbral atm -.-
Valid, I can see the theory of why you’d make the switch cause easier to stay in the smoke bomb
you're passed that?
Could I see your LE tools?
What do you need, to import character name? I forgot how sharing works
I suppose it's not relevant to defense issue or offense issue... Pure skill issue... Too hard on precise controls
well, i cant suggest you to tank up to facetank them because its obviously not intended, and bursting the boss is impossible too due to invul phases, so the inly solution is to learn how to move tbh
- dont run into them
- when they spawn on top of you and you dont instantly shift/whatever away, its probably GG...
- that second boss that sometimes wake up should be quite squishy so I always just target that one until it dies
- Ive dealt with little mobs just with my aoe, so idk...
- Ive tried to run around in a circle and just hope for the best since the only thing killing me was that Lightning Terror aoe web spawning on top of me
yep... but it took me a looot of tries at 500 corruption 😄
Oh if you don’t have it ready to go no worries, I don’t know how it works really either
....I will say lighting terror is the damage killed me in every try
tried 5 times, be slain by lightning terror 5 times, just too insane
Yea same... 75% lightning resist, 4-5k constant ward, 24% damage reduction... and still 4-5k insta hits 😄
Yeah 🤔 it just turns it from melee to ranged
when I use aerial assault with featherstorm, the attacks doesn't go where my mouse is when I press the button but when it is when the cast is finished. Is it normal ?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QW5MVV4o
hey if any of you have feedback for me it would be greatly appreciated. Kinda stagnating at 400-450 corruption rn
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (10) / Marksman (63) / Falconer (5)
▸ Health: 2,236, Regen: 19.58/s
▸ Mana: 140.79, Regen: 14.64/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 58 Dex / 0 Int / 0 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 79% / 104% / 47% / 108% / 85% / 134%
▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 512
▸ Dodge Chance: 25% (841)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (498)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 33%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 89%
Heartseeker / Shift / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Cinder Strike
@jaunty glen figured it out, https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owXJRGaA
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Tombs of the Erased / 1.2
Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (18) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (63)
▸ Health: 1,585, Regen: 22.16/s
▸ Mana: 118.22, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 8%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 133 Dex / 4 Int / 3 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 116% / 170% / 116% / 159% / 133% / 94% / 73%
▸ Endurance: 74%, Threshold: 363
▸ Dodge Chance: 27% (888)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,530)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 68%
anyone know if critical multiplier from skill is additive or multiplicative?
Hmmmm what do you mean with shuriken? 😄
Can anyone explain Deep Rust node for me on Heartseeker tree? Does Armor shred from Hail of Arrows count as one of «all sources» ?
Or is it only my passive armor shred chance
Yeah unless you play shuriken build, its just for blade shield
Can someone explain why the falconer shadow dagger build uses a bow instead of just dual wielding? The damage seems to be WAY higher when using a mace/kris. Like, over twice as much even using a 4/4/4 Talons of Valor.
guys i search a rogue build fun to play any suggestion ?
uh but you can't shadow dagger with a bow. so... 🙂
Fun is subjective
Yes, you absolutely can.
Amazing, thanks!
you need a dagger equiped
yes
Please tell me I'm making this up then
this might be a dumb question but how does work the print thing? please explain with apples
i dont need to read a maxroll guide to tell you that you can't run shadow dagger with a bow
it literally says in the text while using a dagger
what do yall reccomend i put on this bow
are you confusing umbral blades with shadow dagger?
phys build
You spec into Umbral Blades, but you don't use it on your bar. You use Aerial Assault to spawn more shadow daggers which is where your damage comes from, but the points from Umbral Blades still apply to the daggers that are spawned
I'm not confusing anything with anything, you don't know the mechanic you're trying to tell me I'm wrong about
this much I figured but is it normal for aerial assault with featherstorm to be so clumsy to use ?
You can spec out of it being a movement skill
I find it more clumsy when it's stationary use, but it's personal preference
that's precisely the problem I have. I did that, and now I have to completly stop moving to use the ability
@flint turret am i being crazy here? Shadow daggers doesn't work with a bow equiped, right?
It works
it doesn't go where the mouse is when the ability is pressed, it goes where the mouse is after the animation. Is it just me ?
You just don't get any bow damage scaling
does work with affixes on exalted gear? aslo forging material? (nemesis drops high forging material items)
which ones? sd from the umbral tree requires a dagger thats it, the rest works with everything
thank you, that's the one in question
so much misinformation in here
i have sd in my hs from puncture and it works too
Ah, but umbral tree using talon + aerial umbrals doesn't, right?
yeah
No, it isn't the one in question - you can't physically use Umbral Blades with a bow, but the Aerial Assault tree literally uses the passives from it anyways.
Literally how it works dude
Khadice
That makes umbral blades
Umbral blades procs shadow daggers with a dagger equiped, not with a bow equiped
like I said, you're confusing the two
Like you cannot proc this with a bow. If you want to keep arguing though, go for it. No sweat off my back
Your right about that
Forgot it had dagger equipped requirement
But yeah they just use smoke bomb and dusk shroud for damage
And smoke bomb for flat damage
😮
I see the disconnect now - I swapped over to the bow version thinking SD was still being procced, but it's an umbral build and not an SD build when you do that.
Yeah it baited me yesterday
The bow version still feels way worse though
Ofc it does, it was a janky build before it's got a lower payoff now
It is probably the tankiest build
Mainly for bossing not really
Pushing corruption while farming normal monos
Yeah, I'm just gonna stick to dual wielding and zoom through monos, the bow version feels awful to me
if i were to add 3 mods to that, what would they be
Crit attack speed, armor shred, crit multi , penetration I haven't done the math
no AS/Fire pen?
Crit and attack speed hybrid mod
yes that one for sure, i meant other 2
Pure pain
What about the memory amber rewards
cuz i have this ready to go, but prob go for something else yeah?
It gives like 70 at 100c so even if its 10x its garbage
The fire damage is neglible since you should have over 300 percent damage but better than nothing
It would be nice but 4 lp quiver dream to get 2x attack speed lines
Sick lol
fire im at 192%
you get 250% just for speccing into sharpshooter
Btw I’m only able to scale my dragon heartseeker to around 15k tooltip. Anything I’m missing ?? Bit hard to scale. My buddy has his tooltip at 400k on his sentinel.
assuming you are doing bow damage and not the mixed thing which is dragonfire + mourning frost + daggers
Correct not using mourning boots
no im doing with Mourning
then you usually want generic elemental damage iirc at certain breakpoints*
Boots are just good for flat damage basically correct
i prob should go hunt down another bow then, try to at least have T7 hybrid and crit multi
my luck just isnt there for exalted items lol
either that or just find a 2LP dragon song and slam it xd
ironically this season I've just been spamming exalted bows prophecies, since the unique bows are really common
My evade casts some Necro skill? I can’t seem to change it.
take off the ring
I was using those unique gloves to convert bleed to ignite and scaling damage overtime too. Idk if that’s great but seems to be pretty strong
Lagon's ice and lightning beam is one shotting me, I have capped resists. Playing heartseeker. 1300 hp. This feels bad, what can I do?
i tried that already lol
you can 100% predict the beam and dodge it
had T6 AS and Fire pen as well, hit the stupid health on kill
Yep very broadcast
@gritty oak My paladin facetanked anything until empowered mono's...
just checked the market and theres like 20+ 3lp and even 4lp jungle queens on the market. Barely anyone playing rogue this patch lol
15% at least
on bright side i assume you are crit capped, without using smoke bomb which will feel much less painful
Everyone in sentinel because it’s extremely overtuned
Like I said my friends smite tooltip is 400k. Its stupid
i sent my build earlier, nothing changed yet
i honestly have no clue lol
i also have another 2LP
anybody know how far fire heartseeker can push corruption wise?
with my trash gear im farming 450 rn
anybody here doing 800+?
i have 2k hp overall
man this guy hit the jackpot
What crit chance would you consider "good enough" to full focus on crit multi
Who was looking for the Razorfall boots here...? 
So im attack speed stacking for shadow cascade funnies
What all can i get attack speed on
bro are u still doing the weaver graves or just pushing through the monos?
Well, all
just gotta stack on all the uniques that have high attackspeed hope your mana can handle it
yep that would be the easiest high lp gloves with attack speed to get
the mana will never be able to handle it
but you can puncture every other
way better than other classes "Slams"
weapon wise i think the fastest now scissor of atropos?
i think i'll have to use traitors tongue and an obsidian dagger ther instead so i can gaurentee the 100% crit chance for baldedancers final passive
I don't think I like the umbral bow build 😦 what other build would you recommand ?
the fact you need to stand perfectly still to use aerial assault accuratly really sucks all the fun out of the build
just spec out of the no movement thing
might do...
i know blade dancer is on the to be reworked list
you clear way faster with movement on aerial
but i really wish they got ele conversions
its pretty painful seeing stuff like cinderstrike and exploseive trap and being like
"And i cna't use that.
@dusky schooner you playing this league?
ya
same build as always?
i actually speccd umbral this time 😄
but it's still leaning more falcon damage, by a lot
ooooh
i really want +1 shadow gloves
still dual wield talon knives shenanigans?
havent bothered looking at a build and kinda just started playing
they nerfed it, im using bow
bruh I LOVE RUNE OF HAVOC!
tried it, its awful and doesnt work well with wasd
rip
so im moving w/ aerial 🙂
thats too bad, I love how smooth aerial feels so I was hoping that wouldn't be too clunky
just dont spec into the no movement thing and its fine
good to know
you using any specific filter? I legit just started today and I forgot how ass the game is without a filter lol
my own, its prob way too strict atm / broad
Did you make it from scratch?
you can make one from scratch tbh
I havent played in so long i kinda forgot where to get even a generic one
Will it take more than 5 minutes lol
wont take that long unless your merchants guild
is there a efficient way to farm temporal sanctum keys
Sorry one last question, do you have a planner/profile? Curious to see how you're doing bow stuff if no traversal. I always did 1h/shield and never bows
slott acct name sloot char name
CoF always. Ok i try and make one ty
but my char is a bit scuffed atm and waiting for some items to slam my lp stuff 🙂
No worries mostly wanted to see passives/skills
aerial scales like crazy if you do it right, 1 shots all trash
Yeah that's what I've always loved about speccing into.umbrals
I play arpg to turn brain off and vibe
Birb best damage type
they nerfed bird stuff but put in minion pen idols, so it's like...i'll take it 🙂
if i buy an item in trade faction, and craft it with a unique that has CoF faction, does it stay CoF?
I really need to get to rank 9 merchants
cuz like, the main things im missing is my 3lp mountain/bow, ill self farm the rings
just need to know if it keeps CoF or not lol
hello guys, currently playing umbral blades falconer, I just dropped this 3lp woven flesh, am i right in understanding that this could easily replace my elecoe?
i would just be missing the +1 to throwing attacks andf the % in increase dodge ratng
so im following tricksters build and would like to target farm reign of winter. Im lvl 81, should i just keep spamming echoes in this timeline until i can fight Heerot again?
3lp peak is easy with new dungeon skip
bow might be a little rough, but very doable with the weaver stuff/reroll etc
you can set up woven to improve your odds
no i mean i have them
i need the bases to mix them on
i have both already
@half nova wdym?
but otherwise, just keep farming the timeline, do thye quest echoes, and then kill the boss. theres no way to just rpeatedly fight only the boss, right?
theres a lower tier version of this woven echo
wait does that work for the gloves from Husk?
would make farming for a 1lp much easier
I need more sanctum keys
theyre seperate
your next so the one after you shift finishes
if you were to shift again afterwards then yes
uhh
iirc it works with
Yeah I want to ideally only use it with that
the wording is different with unseen strik tho, idk if it matters
and I do not want unseen strikes to take the damage from cascades
yea
I wonder if I can get the cd low enough that I can shift faster than the cascade
no
@lunar socket so Ive finally dropped Oerden's Watch echo and did it... idk, wasnt exactly hard, just a lot of enemies so it a bit of time 😄
anyone tried out a build with the heartseeker unique helm?
that changes damge to throwing
Seems like a good idea as a support skill for some extra damage
not sure if it is worth going hard into it or that interesting
do harbringers drop boss related loot or they have their own loot pool?
harbinger that consumed the boss
will drop boss loot + their own
if it doesnt just own loot pool
will just drop a load of item bases but no timeline boss loot
ok but what about if i use new woven echo? will it drop boss loot as well?
so far so good. Extreme fast but im only at 226. Might change later
this one will drop boss loot as well
thats cool makes farming ravenous void easier
maybe
if luck strikes
Is venom infusion on smoke bomb for enemies inside the bomb or if youre shooting from within the smoke?
its you
how do resists work in this game? if i have 55 instead of 75% phys resist am i taking 20% more damage, or is it even more than that like poe? i just got to empowered and im kinda getting clapped
at 0 resist you take upto 175% damage, at 75% you take 100%
ahh so im at 55% so im just taking 20% more damage, yeah im getting absolutely smacked, i guess my hp is too low
in poe at 75% res you take 100% damage but at 0% you take 400% damage
how much hp u have
1200
u got crit avoid?
35%
also phys is the most common damage type, so you'll probably want to cap it
yeah im just getting like way overkilled lol
time to cook
good luck finding exalted helm with t7 recurve chance xd
nah just t7 dex xd
That helmet sucks tho?
its for throwing build
with acid flask/shuriken
that helm auto casts heartseeker
so u dont even have to use it
let him cook
Yea I knew that but seemed weak
you use heartseeker for the upto +80 throwing damage
not actually doing damage with it
I see so passive completely
yes a passive buff
it should still do decent damage tho
I slapped it on as a test but obviously that’s why I thought it sucked haha
Not specced throwing at all
you dont even need to be specced into throwing
Oh then it sucked hahah
its just a good buff
hi guys, i'm having problem with my heartseeker and wish to seek advice from here.
i am currently lvl 88 and keep getting 1 to 2 hit shot from rare boss/boss at corruption only 100, i still have not got all the uniq/legendary i need
should i go back to normal mono and farm them first then go back to empower?
O.. so it's not my problem?
Probably not. Pay attention to mechanics and dodge stuff
still have not got all the uniq/legendary i need
yeah you need those
and also calm down on dps brain 🙂
i mean it might be but marksman is the squishiest spec of the squishiest class. half of your defense is that you are ranged and can pick your spacing
when you dont have silver shroud
i was thinking of farming those uniq at corruption 100.. but it seem so hard for me
going back to normal and farm is also good idea?
I got my items mostly from nemesis
i'm COF
just try earn as many weaver points as possible
cheapest option is probably to start with nemesis
Nemesis is great
loomed riches and woven riches and imprint the nemesis tower
Oh?
iirc its like 6-7 nemesis in a row, really good if you have really bad gear
then swap into false temple if you want to spec into lizards with more points, or go up to get timeline boss drops, or grab all 4 sockets and imprint with uniques that you need in your build
my main concern with making attack speed shadow cascade work is that shadow cascade is such a baseline awful skill
unless i can get 200 attack speed its not wroth
false temple is a lie, i did one and no lizards 😠
Is black quiver just for dmg
spreadsheet is coming along for the woven echoes. added a new difficulty explaination legend instead of just throwing tiers on the difficulty, since it is very subjective at the end of the day
if anyone has anything to add for the blank ones let me know! I'll get around to them eventually but any help is appreciated
yes black quiver is just a damage thing
depends on what skill your playing around
Heartseeker
dusk shroud and recurve chance and shadows
theres a nice unique quiver for dark quiver
the increase in recurve is good for dragonfang node
shadows can be consumed by gloom needle node
how am I best pushing corruption?
opinion on how to fix rogue, and people may not like this
do you reckon I should slam this? or am I settling too much?
isnt t7 crit + as? better
unless u alrdy max crit
t7 would be +10 crit right? yeah that does sound better
guess I will slam this to a 3lp one and wait on the 4 one. cheers!
why does maxroll run smoke bomb as traversal over running a traditional shadow daggers + aerial assault build
for which build
well actually I'm looking at the top builds for SC, they just use the maxroll build
they convert aerial assault to a non traversal
so it doesnt share a cd with smoke bomb/shift
Yeah, I'm aware. im just wondering the benefit over doing the traditional build
which I see the majority of HC players using
i feel like non traversal aerial is only good for pushing giga high when you need to stay at ranged. It's much much slower for softcore clearing/pushing
you get better uptime on smokebomb
and it also works extremely poorly with wasd
but eh misery
if you want optimal dps
3lp peak i dont care what i get on it tbh
🤷♂️ It just seems odd becuase I would think it would be safer to run smoke bomb as traversal but it's actually the rerverse
every build in SC is running that, and HC is running shadow daggers
le rip
its so janky
has a chance to upgrade
it will auto lock onto the enemy and dive you straight onto the boss
if the answer is just "it is better but it feels ass to play" i'll feel that
also bro last patch, im not even kidding i failed SEVEN 3lp peaks rofl
its what made me quit LE for like 8 months
it was a disaster of a season
gonna have an easier time farming a 4lp peak jk
oh u wanna farm mountain?
i think in the 50+ runs i did
i got 1 mountain body with 1lp
finally cof paid off
grats dude 😄
are there any affixes that can reduce heartseeker to 0 mana cost
unique bow
my first red ring ever btw
heartseeker isnt expenive
is that the only source?
The amount of 1lp Red Ring is kinda crazy
thats was legit prophesy drop, non printed
congrats bro its about time
now i need to print a second one
the main mana drain is the crazy amount of dragon fire procs at 7 mana per cast, i was hoping to reduce HS down to 0 mana cost so that i can benefit from the mana generation passives
I got print drop once so far 😄 well, I guess it was printed, unless I just got lucky 🤔 idk If there is any way to tell
stacked loot looks dope af 😄
stats are getting weirder and weirder. i guess ill slam the next wall with t7 ward on shadow creation
this wasnt my intention when i started playing hs
but i got 7+ mountain bodies no lp and then wall 1lp drops on the first neme kill
I just unlocked the weaver node that can autospawn woven echos based on what one you slot in, what should I stick in it?
Nemesis tower is pretty great
Oh yeah that'd be a good one, I just have to get another echo for it
just my resists are kinda eh for now... 😄
guess its time to farm some ravs since im staking endurance anyway
never played hybrid life ward or endurance stacker, let alone both at the same time
ward threshold stacking
why cant i put troaka on the imprit slots?
lostwood folly is also a decent echo to imprint
what build did you land on?
team i remember seeing something about on wings of shadow lowering the damage of your main dive bomb in patch notes, but I don't see it. That still a thing?
anyone here playing heartseeker with darkquiver speced?
yes
ok found it off hands are bugged and not working on imprint
Getting Ravs with 1LP might be even more fun than Red Ring.... I havent dropped Ravs from CoF I cant even remember that 😄
🙏 if i dont get 3lp on this the game is basically against me at this point
one time I got lucky from 1000c Gaspar...
i followed trikker build, but i dont understand why he slots in the action bar shurikens if he never uses it. Wouldnt it be better to slot darkquiver and use it? you get some bonuses from picking the dark arrows
hs
its not that bad, considering 150% bonus from cof
you're replying this to me?
but the shurikens spawn when you use shift, so you dont even need to use them
if you check trikker gameplay he never uses them despite they're on his action bar
also printing should theoretically work for ravs, because its not a boss exclusive drop?
Yea I have Ravs in imprinted slot... havent dropped any yet 😄
sadge
rav print would be glorious
How does mourningfrost's cold damage work ? is it like added to all attacks ? or just to cold attacks ?
how do you imprint an item you don't have? 😮
you dont? 
Havent dropped any from the imprinted slot yet* 😛
haha thought so i thought I was missing something
it will drop mg tagged
F
10 hereoths now no 3lp reign what gives
playing triksters heartseeker rn. which is better, chance to chill or slow on exalted quiver? not on the slow base so I'd assume roughly similar?
Resists 
Also maybe that woven echo with Mage prisons If you want some experimental gear... There is like, how many, 36 mage prisons around the forge? 😄
usually the more common ones
are better imo
just because with both slots they become like every other map/echo
the rarer ones just sometimes dont show up
gonna use this for LP food ez
Broooooo why you didn't use creation ffs

check this death out
walked into the tomb onto about 50 of these webs
what the
0% survival chance
I run the Nemesis tower and Gauntlet of Strife (reforging uniques) and the chance to see them isnt that bad I'd say... but Gauntlet is probably a bad one to have there, so I changed it to the Lostwood to try that out
PoE2 moment
you can run the same one in both slots 🙂
both of them are Gaunlet... and I kinda dont need them at all... 
yeah i had strife as well for a bit and got kicked in the nuts on loot every time so i swapped it
lol grub nemesis
nice
anyone's got a pog umbral blades falconer LEtools that isnt maxroll?
just wanna see
ok next ring, if i dont get 3lp confirmed hate crime
preparing lawsuit against EHG
well I wanted LP from Nemesis, but I guess maxrolled t7 poison pen could be handy someday
♿
rip money 😄
didnt spend anything besides that first ring
printed 3 so far
i dont like voidborne nemesis in close areas
Alright, having Lostwood imprinted feels really good 😄
whats lostwood give?
spawns weaver mobs to the echoes around, so ez ambers and idols
and this is great, shame I missed it at the start
just got 2 Somnias from a single echo
nice
I just got a 39% increased armor blessing from Heorot. Should I attempt him more to get a better one?
You could If you have a nice amount of armor
why
clear speed on 500+ corruption is like meh
i wish i was MG now to sell this gear lol
Bro what is this
is there a way to farm weaver idols besides doing every tomb/cemetery you see
Void resist blessing is on 74%... out of 75
some whacky combination of weaver echoes that shits out idols or something i dunno
Imprinted Lostwood Folly... spreads mobs to around echoes and I was getting weaver idols from it
CoF has prophecies for Weaver Humble idols If you need those
Yea its alright so far
wait
voidborne nemesis as u get higher corruption in this tower is like final boss material
if you trigger the prophecies when you're inside a tomb/cemetery
can it drop weaver idols?
I meant weaver humble prophecies, my brain is not braining much
I would be very surprised If it worked like that... would be kinda cool tho, ngl
Question about blessings on Reign of Dragons timeline
Is it better to pick +20 all res(total 140 res looks like insane value) or crit avoidance to cap it with just blessing + passives(we have 35% avoid on tree)?
I'm kinda tight on res due to mourningfrost, so getting so many res looks quite tempting ngl
u cof or mg
allres is around the value of two t7s whereas crit avoid is one
CoF
3 lp peak of the mountain and t7 crit avoid/t5 hybrid life/t5 x on it + 35 from tree is probably the way to go
noted, ty
No need to go to the dungeon at all... its insane how just this Weaver tree alone is so much game changing 😄
I got a super lucky lp4 falcon bow so I made I tried to make the umbral blades falcon build but it feels like absolute garbage compared to just playing normal umbra blades
Anyone else experience that
Unless you can easily cover your resistance from other gear, I go with 20% all resist in like 9/10 cases... the 1/10 case is I greed for the extra chance to bleed 😄
I see, thanks
time to completely redo my filters then since I was looking for entirely different stuff lol
solid
The first one is Aberroth