🔪┃rogue

[flint turret]

you have 1lp in planner

[serene crane]

the hunt for 3LP Titan was long and I havent seen a single one

[meager fern]

should've spent that favor on body armors instead of rings

[serene crane]

That 470k was nothing compared to the rest before... 😦 😄

[flint turret]

boulder and chains 3lp is somewhat easy too

[serene crane]

Eh I should also get Smoke Blades... forgot that

[flint turret]

hmmm

what about using belt traveral cd to reduce lm cd

and shift cd at the same time

but where to get shadows then huh

[serene crane]

Could be worth trying, I havent really tried that affix before 🤔 got some 2LP Queens around

[flint turret]

i was thinking about new belt for ward crit replenish

too low on potion slots nwm

[serene crane]

It could work with something, I just wanted to do something in planner I can relatively put together already

[flint turret]

yeah but this ll lm is like walking on eggshels, everything is a limiting factor

[vapid arrow]

what sort of max oil coating numbers can one expect with cinder strike?

[serene crane]

oh nvm its capped at 60% more dmg, oops 😄 I could drop the lightning pen to 2/5 and Blur to 0 to get the bleed more nodes, then Puncutre for Bleed 🤔

[flint turret]

mana, shift cd, shadow spawn rate, bleed, ward generation and retention, farming weaver idols for retention

also doom would have been nice kekw

and lightning shred bless

[serene crane]

Shadow spawn rate should be fine (so nice amount of ward from helmet affix) 😄 mana when not running coated blades aswell, might just spec to them for bossing

[flint turret]

yeah dunno maybe try without coated but rather with sync instead

it will solve bleed too

or not

[serene crane]

Yeee idk If I could really throw Nomad+Uleros away for Anguish and Shattered 😄

[flint turret]

you wont have inward jump right

also dont you need aoe increases for lm?

how you gonna clear

[vapid arrow]

had anyone taken a look at going this set with cinder strike poison to ignite conversion?

[serene crane]

ye probably not 🤔 buuut maybe I could... like in 1.17 when i tried it it somewhat worked, the only thing that really screwed me over 24/7 was not having LL mana from shifting because of the LM leech bug

[serene crane]

I dont think so tbh... If it would play somewhat like the Sd version, then its fine 😄 maybe if'll do f-ton less damage than Sd and I throw it away, idk

[flint turret]

non legendaries dont exist in 1.2

[flint turret]

your sd version has close to 0 cd, this one will have like 3s combo reliance

and your sd clears with sd from cascades, this will only hit with lm itself

[serene crane]

t7 chance doesnt look too hot... 😄 but I remember seeing somewhere some poison=>ignite conversion? 😄

[vapid arrow]

cinder strike has it in tree

[serene crane]

Could try it with axe aswell for the poison chance.... but the other affix is on shield... idk... either trying to cook this or Maehlin gloves exist to convert 100% bleed chance to ignite, so 2 swords with %chance to bleed per sword idols and body affix might be nice for ignite Cinder strike, also 40% glancing blow

[serene crane]

Yeah it would be a bit slower, but nothing super slow I guess 😄

I'll give it a try and worst case scenario I rip some gear for it... like I dont have to clear 1000-1500c with it, above 500 should be very real

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[wide yacht]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALqkJ6xQ

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (79) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,118, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 226.32, Regen: 11.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 110%, Regen: 178/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 60 Dex / 11 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 39% / 39% / 39% / 21% / 59% / 32% / 37%
▸ EHP: 5,454 / 5,454 / 5,454 / 5,272 / 6,395 / 5,187 / 5,375

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 424
▸ Dodge Chance: 53% (2098)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (1,018)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 93%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Dancing Strikes (29)
• Shurikens (25)
• Shift (25)
• Shadow Cascade (25)
• Synchronized Strike (25)

Used unique items:

• Exsanguinous
• Traitor's Tongue
• Nihilis
• Jungle Queen's Chaps of Holding
• Falcon Fists
• Last Steps of the Living
• Shattered Worlds

[wide yacht]

apologies for the delay, let's just say that since i already started on it i wished to finish it first

feel free to make any edit or remarks here, as this is probably my first serious attempt at lowlife

notes: unsure if i'm gonna stay on shurikens, as the damage output is mostly irrelevant in the face of cascade, and the mana regen on shift from umbral blades pull might be better considering how mana hungry this build can be

also considering removing 2 points from DS' dodge/rythm stack + 1 from shuriken chance into a full 5/5 arena

[serene crane]

since you already run shurikens on Ds, might aswell run this to make Blade Shield better

[wide yacht]

so yep, there it is, a no int ward LL build

true, that is an option, but again it comes down to how mana deprived this stuff will feel

can i afford the luxury of shredding armor and bleeding with shurikens to assist the damage of cascade?

[serene crane]

oh wait, I think you also kinda want 4/4 pierce for Shurikens so it stay and doesnt go away after a single hit... well 25% chance, but idk, maybe it works fine

[wide yacht]

no idea how it would play out, i never tried Ds shurikens

[serene crane]

Hookes Blades could be nice since you just keep going with all Ds+Shuriken hits+Cascade in the enemy's face... could be a lot of armor shred 🤔

Ive only really played bleed Ds with also shurikens, which worked well, but no armor shred there needed... ezpz bleed stacks tho

[cerulean parrot]

does heartseeker recurve proc reign of winter icicle? anyone know?

[wide yacht]

the most unfortunate part is that shuriken somehow is not triggered on shadows the same way cascade is

and the armour node doesn't make it a melee hit, it'll still be throwing

imagine how good it would've been if it counted as melee instead or DS actually acted the same way with shadows+shuriken

[serene crane]

doesnt say melee hit, so... worth trying out maybe?

[wide yacht]

no no i meant in general, i'm sure this works with it yes

[zinc shadow]

Need some experienced rogue players opinions on dodge vs glancing blow. Is it viable to take the node that converts dodge into glancing blow and have 100% glancing blow chance or keep the 85% chance to dodge?

[pseudo phoenix]

not bad at all for not having shackles

[wide yacht]

completely carried by these idols

it's goated

[solar cape]

Thinking about a cold heart seeker… how much of a disadvantage is not running morningfrost? Feels like the defense sacrifice might be too great

[glossy mortar]

85% chance to dodge is definitely better than 100% glancing blow chance. But you can have close to 80% glancing blow + 80% dodge at the same time.

[serene crane]

I think so? If you dig deeper in this channel there shoooould be a video with Reign of Winter heartseeker... or you can check Trikster's vid, he might talk about it there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XglQMAUq6dA

[serene crane]

Shouldnt you be getting a lot of mana like every 2.2s or something like that with low life shift? 🤔

that + cascade mana

[wide yacht]

yeah, but keep in mind, DS with half its base CD and its mana eating nodes + sync kinda goes crazy

which is kinda part of why i stuck to jungle queen, giving my shift an on-demand use and dodge to get out of shit fast

16 slots could be all i need really lol

regardless, the important thing rn is checking out the LL part of the build

[wide yacht]

can you see any ways to improve this? it's definitely limit testing what the s2 toys can allow me to do with this really

[serene crane]

eeeehhh... I thought ward of shadow creation on helmet could be nice to have some another source of ward generation, but... maybe Im blind and dumb, but... your Sync makes two shadows, no smoke for shadows, your shift consumes to shadows... but you run 4shadows in Cascade? 😄

[cold portal]

Aerial assult umbral blades looks mint but I'm worried it might be bait & fall off end game. Any experienced lads care to share their experience?

[wide yacht]

woops, small oversight, it is supposed to have the 4 shadows node

so definitely account for the +100% mana cost

[serene crane]

For the mana... idk how fast your mana would go down and up, removing the +5mana node in Ds would just be damage loss; removing shurikens would be less armor uptime and very ez phys res shred, but that could maybe be enough from Sync strike... could try changing shurikens for mana umbrals on Shift and see how it feels... also 5mana whenever you dodge every 1second from the Falconer passive is really nice on Ds

Maybe if mana umbrals would be really good for the mana sustain, dropping mana blessing for, idk, ward per second or ward on pot+threshold... on LM Sd I really like the 160% stum chance blessing 😄

[serene crane]

Mana efficiency affix on body/helmet, but that might be a bit tight to fit in there

[wide yacht]

who knows, i drop an LP4 armor

[serene crane]

OK ward per second blessing looks pretty 💩 compared to the new idols, jesus...

[meager fern]

hey its two idols for one blessing

[wide yacht]

ikr?

[serene crane]

4 lines of each doing something else on 1x2

IN THIS ECONOMY???

[topaz schooner]

those are really strong

[meager fern]

dat health is so juicy doe ayy

[serene crane]

meanwhile Lagon... 😄

[meager fern]

wish I had space for that, I lose like half of my dmg without idols xD

[serene crane]

Yeah, mana one is the best I guess

[tribal zinc]

is there any downside to starting offline if you play CoF tomorrow?

[maiden gale]

you cant bring an offline char online

[wide yacht]

^

[meager fern]

offline=no mtx, no global chet, no leaderboards

[serene crane]

Idk how many shadows can you generate with that Ds too often... 4 from Sync, 1 from Shift... but cant really spam Sync... Im going for t7 ward on shadow so thats 86-110, but I most likely can generate shadows more 😄

[wide yacht]

consider it a singleplayer game if you do that, not even skins will be available

[tribal zinc]

that is a bit annoying having them as seperate chars, but its not like i am pushing leaderboards

[autumn mist]

Don't sleep on Health Regen blessing on this patch. I suspect it will be busted with all the buffs and also the ability to use the Last Bear set affixes for doubling with STR stacking.

[topaz schooner]

mana blessing is so good lol

[meager fern]

I'm so mad at all those paladins and other classes that take this mana blessing instead of health regen one

[serene crane]

Ye it might be good for sure... just not for the low life builds here

[meager fern]

like why, if u dont scale with mana and have 0 mana issues

[serene crane]

80mana Sync and 5mana DS every 0.5s go brrrrr

[topaz schooner]

yep.

[autumn mist]

They better off taking Lighting res one even for overcapping due to Paladin's passive giving Endurance Threshold for over capped ele res

[topaz schooner]

That blessing saved me when I was running sync sd bd

[serene crane]

Hmmm, and in case of Low Life, cant really fit +mana on gloves since one prefix is experimental and other attackspeed :c

[meager fern]

I mean yeh if u have mana issues, but when ure never below 75% mana like whyy

peepo fukcin rage

[serene crane]

Either way gotta make sure Ragu checks it out, Im just cooking some stuff

maybe throwing t5 %phys from belt for more mana regen, idk

[autumn mist]

Anyone tried some Jelkhors Freeze jank? Made a planner using shattered lance set affixes but idk if scaling freeze is worth or viable

[wide yacht]

definitely all theory until we dive deep in this season, i can hop on legacy to switch to shurikens and see how it feels without umbral blades' mana return

once servers are up lol

[wide yacht]

yea, cascade needs that juicy damage buff from any AS i can milk

[meager fern]

17hrs to go

[chrome wren]

whose the rogue guy? so I can find a heartsekker build, not sure to go fire or frost

[autumn mist]

TriKster?

[terse jolt]

The answer is yes

Go dart fire

And then make a separate cold build

[vapid arrow]

dang hit these on a practice run in pre-sanctum monos

[lime folio]

where's the movement speed?

[vapid arrow]

always craftable

[proven lava]

@glossy mortar sorry for the ping, i'm trying to finalize my starter, i had a few questions about your ballista

1. i know it's generally a squishier build, so is the main defensive layer to kill quickly? and how much of my survivability is built into knowledge checks of what's dangerous/to avoid? (i only have 200hrs so idk what's scary yet)
2. for the +ballista slam, you mentioned getting the t7 exalt is significantly easier, will that be via rune of havoc-ing?
3. what's the purpose of the exper mana on potion? does the build struggle with mana and this is the cheapest investment? (cause of care package)
4. how does it feel without the exper minion tp?
5. general guidelines for what to look for on t5-t6 gear -> phys bow/quiver, dex stacking (int too), minion stats?
6. and running over a potion while at full hp works? no need to manually potion (except single target)?
   thanks 🙂

[deft horizon]

IM so confused, where do act5 end lmao

[cobalt mantle]

Uhh might be when you kill Zerrick? Roughly?

[vapid arrow]

if going for sanctum skip, you get to town, take the sapphire tablet quest that unlocks sanctum and finish main quest for reward, then go back to shore and do the sapphire tablet, after you go into monoliths and look for the sanctum key

[tough ether]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/lethal-mirage-bladedancer-guide Can anyone explain to me why they use Li'raka's Claws? idk if im just missing something but they dont provide anything for the build no?

[warm zephyr]

Looks like for Umbral Blades, since that has the Throwing tag

[vapid arrow]

shadow dagggers also have a throwing tag

yeah the entire point looks to be that you use lethal mirage to proc shadow daggers, which do get use of the crit multi since they always crit

[boreal walrus]

[tough ether]

OH THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE

Ive played a version of it using Black blade but using shift for the guaranteed crit before the use of lethal mirage

[deft horizon]

so as soon as i get into act 5 town, talk to npc, go back to sanctum entrance? and then i go into rift?

[vapid arrow]

do talk to the snake top left too, since it gives quest rewards

[deft horizon]

perfect ty !, it took me 1:49:00 for act 5 into monos

[topaz schooner]

we're all rogue guys

[verbal elm]

Was doing a puncture- leveling practice run to prepare for season start and got a jungle queen's drop. i'm deceased.

[wispy kayak]

So is bladedancer possibly great in 1.2 or still not used since the other 2 are way better

[pseudo phoenix]

blade dancer will be fine, given the changes and the fact that even some of the worst build are going to hit 500c with ease. but falconer is still proportionally better

[kindred pelican]

Looking at umbral blade falconer, I found one guide saying Talons of Valour is BIS with bow build but another guide showing to use 1h mace + dagger build with a new mace called Nest of Nightmares.

Whats the difference between using one or the other, is one just better or maybe the bow guide just didnt know about the new mace?

[pseudo phoenix]

i think it's mostly personal preference, the bow will stack damage very high eventually due to its passive, but the dw build with the mace is going to have more immediate damage and probably (?) slightly smoother clear because it won't need to ramp. having said that i don't know how quickly the bow build ramps, exactly

[kindred pelican]

I was planning on using runes of ascendancy on the bows but now the new mace looks cool too so idk which one to go for first

[pseudo phoenix]

how quickly this is going to outstrip the dw mace is a question for one of the nerds willing to do math - another consideration is that the dual wield build will technically be able to lend damage to divebomb through a melee weapon damage sharing passive but with the nerf i'm not sure if it's relevant

[vapid arrow]

mace seems easier to get and you won't get cucked by low rolls

[kindred pelican]

will i have to change any of the skills or passives to switch between mace or bow?

[tawny wyvern]

the umblral build does only throwing damage

any other damage does not matter

bow for CD for more spam, also has a 5% crit implicit and can have another 10% crafted on

that works on throwing, combine that with peak to almsot cap your crit

quiver provides another multiplier and nice defenses

tldr = bow gg

[topaz schooner]

that is insane lmao

[tawny wyvern]

All your damages comes from stacking dusk shrouds and the umbral blade proc

[kindred pelican]

okay thank you

[tawny wyvern]

i assume the guy using mace, is playing falcon damage, closeer to our dive bomb

solid build, but not even close to the monstruosity of umbrals

vid tomorrow if curious

[cold portal]

How do you feel about this variant of the build? I seen some guy pushing 2k corruption on Youtube Juse was his name.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnEj4D8A

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (30) / Falconer (55)

General:

▸ Health: 3,169, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 138.51, Regen: 11.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 190 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 85% / 85% / 108% / 75% / 94% / 99%
▸ EHP: 22,301 / 22,301 / 22,301 / 27,610 / 21,186 / 23,539 / 24,074

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 634
▸ Dodge Chance: 64% (2996)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (1,021)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Physical / Throwing, Melee

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Throwing, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Smoke Bomb (24)
• Aerial Assault (26)
• Umbral Blades (24)
• Falconry (28)
• Dive Bomb (26)

Used unique items:

• Jungle Queen's Chaps of Holding
• Shattered Worlds
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Null Portent
• Omnis
• Razorfall
• Peak of the Mountain
• Talons of Valor
• Throne of Ambition

[cold portal]

Seems to juice DB alongside big umbral AAs

[honest salmon]

imma play some lethal mirage myself

love me some blade dancer

[silent relic]

Yeah his build is sweet but needs numlock macro

[solar cape]

would love some feedback on this theorycraft... never played rogue before but going to start the season here

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bjalp0xQ

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (65) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 1,978, Regen: 64/s
▸ Mana: 175.96, Regen: 12.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 129 Dex / 15 Int / 17 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 81% / 100% / 84% / 107% / 81% / 85% / 70%
▸ EHP: 5,994 / 5,994 / 5,994 / 4,414 / 4,195 / 4,195 / 3,996

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 396
▸ Dodge Chance: 30% (1046)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 15% (456)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 45%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Physical / Throwing, Bow

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Heartseeker (24)
• Shurikens (20)
• Shift (20)
• Dark Quiver (20)
• Smoke Bomb (20)

Used unique items:

• Prism Wraps
• Reign of Winter
• Troaka's Teeth
• Blood of the Exile
• Peak of the Mountain
• Ucenui's Sphere
• Throne of Ambition

[silent relic]

I’m filled with anxiety on deciding what to start

[jaunty glen]

I was thinking of trying this too. Torn between Falconer and Blade Dancer. I wanna be fast

[honest salmon]

both are very fast, falconer is more damage, bd is tankier

ill be playing regular shadowblades till i get the lethal mirage sword

[jaunty glen]

Does falconer feel like the bird is doing everything and you’re just enabling it or does your character itself fill a good power fantasy as well

[honest salmon]

that is a 100% your feel

[jaunty glen]

I guess if I’m down to those two it’s no harm anyways

With respec

[honest salmon]

i never felt the bird was doing everything

but the squak gets annoying

[jaunty glen]

Umbral Blades?

Oh there’s a squawk

[honest salmon]

ya i find the audio on the bird annoying

[jaunty glen]

Is the mandatory unique for Lethal Mirage hard to get?

[deft horizon]

gg my league start

[honest salmon]

its from a harbinger

the hardest one at that

[jaunty glen]

I’m noob/have only played for a couple hours while I wait for season to drop to get a feel for it

Something to work towards I guess

[honest salmon]

im not a pusher, i play 50-100 hours a patch/season

ive just played for like 3 years on and off

i was gonna lich this season but imma wait for the revamp next season

[jaunty glen]

Shadow Blade type class with a big cool 2h Katana is really cool flavour wise though

As far as that build goes

[autumn mist]

Defenses seems very rough

[solar cape]

where would you spec into more defense? health? armor?

[autumn mist]

100% Crit Avoid, 60% Endurance, 50%+ Dodge with some Glancing Blow chance OR 100% Glancing Blow with Apostacy passive and around 2.5k life it's what I would aim for in endgame

[solar cape]

damn ok... gotta rethink a bunch of things on this... guess this is a bit glass cannony

took mourningfrost off because no idea how i would get the resistances to really make it work

[autumn mist]

Its not that it won't work just don't expect it to scale to high corruption because it does seem squishy

[solar cape]

what is considered high corruption? i have really only started in the game last season and got up to like 225 corruption but didnt get to aberroth

[autumn mist]

I think developers have stated that a typical baseline for high corruption is around 300. I also think it's true because you unlock Aberroth at around that corruption and it is the pinnacle boss. That said for hardcore players high corruption can be much more than that so "high corruption" its not a definitive amount.

[solar cape]

got it... definitely not "hardcore" hoping to just take down aberroth this season

[autumn mist]

That's good enough just play your way, disregard my comment, as long you are having fun it's good

[scenic otter]

Uberoth now exists, so most likely people will check the meta on that, which we don't know the actual power of yet

[solar cape]

yea that feels like a streamer kind of race to kill

gonna wait and see what regular aberroth looks like before even thinking about uber

[deft horizon]

Sorry this may be a insane newby queston, but the first monos you do, cant have corruption right?

you first have to complete all of them and than it unlocks empowered mono where we start pushing corruption?

[scenic otter]

Normal monoliths start at 0 corruption yes.

[scenic otter]

Yup.

[deft horizon]

ok yea so i shouldnt push normal monos corruption

[scenic otter]

You could gain corruption in normal monos, but why would you when the cap is 50 and empowered starts you at 100.

[deft horizon]

just go to the next time line

[deft horizon]

yea there we go

ty !

[daring hazel]

I was bored at work and looked at making some sort of bow of winter build using the new skill do yall think it could be good?

I'd use black arrows then pick them up to launch a stronger rain and stronger heartseeker then just spam the exploding arrow skill

Sry for no planner link it's work pc

Also looked at the passive skills and there's almost nothing for cold lol

[scenic otter]

That's er, 3 damage skills.

[scenic otter]

Cold spell, which means you need to stack it's damage elsewhere, like with mourningfrost.

[nova tide]

is it really though? Given a certain damage threshold you can get falconer way tankier

Which is really the important thing

no point in just being tanky unless you're playing HC

[honest salmon]

idk im a mid tier player

im not sure the advanced stuff

i just know when i play bd i die less

[blazing timber]

hi guys, just started LE and currently playing rouge in offline while waiting for the season, cinder strike seem strong but why didnt i see many build build around it? it gets weaker in the late game?

[scenic otter]

Everything looks strong in the campaign. Cinder Strike gets regulated to a support/mana gain skill in the end game at best.

[jovial needle]

my offline is not working, need to do something?

[blazing timber]

thank you mate!

[scenic otter]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1259910320558702726

[serene crane]

Even on work pc, clicking "save/share" to generate a link should work too 😛

[serene crane]

From my experience, you dont really need them, buuut they're easy to get and your shadow daggers will do more damage 😄 I'd like to see his gameplay with that build, feels like... very changeable 😄

[daring hazel]

Wdym? What's wrong about it ?

[daring hazel]

Hm those could definitely be an option. Tho I have a few things scaling with cold res so losing cold res does such.

[scenic otter]

I don't know how you're going to rotate between them, having two already makes a damage rotation pretty busy.

[daring hazel]

When I get a bit more time I'll try setup passives and skills and link a planner. I'm still probs gonna go for my original dot sorc idea but curious to hear feedback on this idea

[daring hazel]

I have the nodes for one big long heartseeker and big long rain of arrows

So dump those turn spam the other

So I don't have to click 3 buttons on repeat incessantly

[scenic otter]

One heartseeker only? You mean the unique helm, which turns it into a throwing skill? Cause that's the only way to make it one only.

[daring hazel]

Nono

Sec

[scenic otter]

Oh, but that doesn't hard limit it to one, it's just "One every 3 seconds"

You can still spam it as much as you want if you cut the cooldown.

[daring hazel]

And rain of arrows gets a lot of duration so I don't need to spam it. Atleast as far as I understand I can't layer multiple rains to hit the same mob

[pallid lake]

you can

[scenic otter]

You can, if you wanted to.

[daring hazel]

Well yeah sure

Oh

Hmm

[pallid lake]

People are playing HoA as a combo skill, where it makes sense to have a single one

[daring hazel]

I mean I could always cut out rain for something else ig

[pallid lake]

but you can make it so to have 12 hails of arrows at the same time with proper building

[daring hazel]

Hmm

[low quail]

boys and girls, can your falcon take damage and die?

[pallid lake]

no

[low quail]

damn

[daring hazel]

Then I'd probs just use heartseeker every 3 sec and black arrow and detonation arrow ad main skill cuz from what I understand you can stack arrows in a mobs body

[low quail]

i swear i saw its health bar on screen at times

rip pale ox

[daring hazel]

I guess I could just add smoke bomb instead of rain

[scenic otter]

For DA? just twice. For Heartseeker? How fast can you fire it is your limit.

[daring hazel]

I mean there's the 3 sec cd

Oh

Detonat8oj arrow can't be stuck in a mob more than twice?

[scenic otter]

The 2nd one will cause the explosion and reset to 0.

[pallid lake]

??

[daring hazel]

Ohhh

[scenic otter]

Without that node is what I meant.

[quiet lantern]

anyone planning a falconer heartseeker? im newer to le. and saw the falconer autobomber build. and really wanna do it now lol

[pallid lake]

isn't that suckerpunch only?

[scenic otter]

Technically....

[low quail]

heartseeker doesn't fit into it i dont think, the whole "auto" part is mostly from umbral

[scenic otter]

But you can't spec into heartseeker as falconer.

[low quail]

this too

LOL

[pallid lake]

the second one is not even requiring a second detonating tho

[daring hazel]

Do you think using detonation arrow witg the nodes to make it take longer to explode and heartseeker with 3 sec cd be good then I'd just spam rain the redt of the timr ig? Idk

[scenic otter]

It could work.

[scenic otter]

It would technically be: 0-1-1-1-1...

[quiet lantern]

like i said im newer. i guess i should jsut sit and do a build planner to see what works and what dosent

[scenic otter]

At the end it depends on "What do you want your main damage to be? Icicles? The skills itself?

[scenic otter]

So far from theorycrafting, heartseeker doesn't add that much if you can't spec into it.

[quiet lantern]

ill look at it i do appreciate it

[serene crane]

Basically If you are mastery A, you can still put points into mastery B and C to unlock their skills and use their passives, but only until that chain wall in the middle-ish

[daring hazel]

Hmkay. Maybe I'll try it 2nd char

[quiet lantern]

ya, im familiar with that far into it, i did a umbral blade dancer over the last few weeks, made it to lvl 80 on that.

i need to just read the build planner tbh. i havent looked at it at all.

[glossy mortar]

1. The build is actually quite good defensively, but one of the main defenses is Dodge rating which just dodges hits (not Damage over Time effects), then I also had about 5k stable ward with ward from potion use, but my ward retention was largely from intelligence so in v1.2 I'll do a build with more health and less ward / int.
2. Yes, getting the T7 exalted relic with ballista was the hard part if you were in Merchants guild or CoF, but it's especially hard for CoF, so the new runes will help with that.
3. Yes, in order to cast ballista, you will need a source of mana, preferably from potion use on your belt because you get tons of potions and that's the best way to get mana reliably. This is being nerfed in v1.2 but it should be the same strategy and it should still be viable.
4. I don't understand your question here, how does it feel without experimental mana on potion use? You can't cast ballistas consistently, so it's not something I would ever recommend.
5. Yes, dex is going to be more important now, mostly because int will be far less valuable in v1.2 due to it being nerfed on the Aerial Assault side (tactician skill point) and it's being nerfed in terms of ward retention which was the more important reason I was using it honestly.
6. Actually they are fixing this in v1.2 with an option to automatically use potions even if you're at full health, but I always used exsang for the movement and attack speed, so that automatically uses potions already. Some players prefer The Kestrel for the +1 to skills and added effect of haste. I prefer the increased attack speed of exsang.

[rotund plover]

Anyone excited or what

[quiet lantern]

i am, i wish i was off tomorrow too.. just friday and the weekend

[serene crane]

Getting +4 to skill relics sounds kinda annoying in general... like I got few exalted ones, buuut it definitely doesnt drop too often without spamming CoF prophecies just for exalted relics 😄 also idk why, but I have 3 Erased relics with +4 to AA... no idea how really useful those would even be

[proven lava]

thank you for the detailed responses, i appreciate it a lot
for 4. i meant the experimental minions transported with traversal skills prefix on boots, does the build need it to feel "smooth"? or is that just extra qol

[glossy mortar]

Oh, the transport minions affix just makes mapping quicker and more enjoyable overall. The extra damage is noticable but it's not a requirement at all, totally a qol thing. I had razorfalls that I wore without this affix and it was just slower going through monos.

[proven lava]

ok cool

thanks

[patent ledge]

Is there any way to convert the fire damage from cinderstrike back to physical? Seems like all of the "physical damage" passive notes are wasted now

[scenic otter]

No, and as an PS, cinder strike used to be 50% fire 50% physical.

[sage fractal]

Isn't Peak of the Mountain (Cannot Leech health from Crits) quite bad for these builds that rely on leech for sustain? Won't it get worse and worse as you get better and better gear (more and more crit chance)?
Are the positives outweighing it that much?

[serene crane]

You just need some other life sustain and if you want to play and stay low life, you dont really want leech since it keeps skyrocketting you above low life

[sage fractal]

Yeah, I'm not talking about low life builds though

I guess something like this at least bypasses the restriction because it isn't strictly "leech"?

[graceful hare]

health on =/= leech

[sage fractal]

Yeah thanks for the confirmation

So that alleviates it a bit then

[serene crane]

I guess with Falconer's Shadow generation or whatever there is, health on shadow creation could be nice, at least with Skiasynthesis

[ocean hound]

Guys is rogue still the ”fastest” class with most mobility?

Like is the falconer jump build still the way to go 🪦🪦

[serene crane]

Yeah we're fast af 🤓

[sage fractal]

For speed? Yeah I think it is

also very end-game pushing viable

[loud stream]

hey guyz, a newbie here. should i follow any build b4 the new launch? or old builds are gonna be useless after the new patch?

[serene crane]

Most of the builds are pretty much the same... maybe some new gear, idols... but not a lot has changes to make older builds useless or non-functional.. uuunless you manage to find some old old build that was using a glitch 😄

[heavy plinth]

for leveling still viable

[floral latch]

I'd say if you're new personally, don't follow a build. Pick a skill that looks interesting and experiment on your own

[small flame]

hmm tempted to t ry out bladedancer this time went marksman last time utilizing a trap build

[serene crane]

Well now Marksman is getting a whole new skill, sooo going MM again cant hurt 😄

oh wait, they've also lowered LPL for Somnia, niiiiice

[solid umbra]

going rogue cannot hurt, because you actually get all 3 masteries and can switch between them

[small flame]

also coming from poe2 I'm so happy there's wasd movement with this season

[serene crane]

Yeee hopefully it wont be too clunky here... Ive enjoyed it in poe2 quite a lot and Ive started as quarterstaff pathfinder with some ranged skill, so when I swapped to wasd instead of kbm, it was pretty big changer 😄

[dull wolf]

gotta keep in mind it's a beta version and I doubt they put all their focus onto WASD movement

but yes, I also prefer wasd

[near grove]

I was watching Karv playing HS, and his char was so freaking fast, I don't think that last time I pushed falkoner to 98lvl it was nearly as fast. Is there some secret, people actually stack lots of MS endgame, or just dev account thing?

[dull wolf]

1% dmg x 1% MS on rogue

going up to 150% MS with good gear is easily possible

[near grove]

where do you even get MS past 100% tho? Like, I was playing around with build, and t7 MS slam on boots is just around 70% ms, where the rest is coming from?
like, he had 110% outside of combat, no haste etc
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKlG7q0Q

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 85

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (58) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,140, Regen: 17.9/s
▸ Mana: 168.23, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 80 Dex / 9 Int / 21 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 58% / 90% / 76% / 60% / 63% / 108%
▸ EHP: 2,284 / 2,245 / 2,627 / 2,729 / 2,284 / 2,345 / 2,627

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 228
▸ Dodge Chance: 31% (938)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 11% (241)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 66%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Physical / Bow, Throwing, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Smoke Bomb (20)
• Shift (21)
• Puncture (21)
• Decoy (21)
• Heartseeker (23)

Used unique items:

• Reign of Winter
• Troaka's Teeth
• Mourningfrost
• Ucenui's Sphere
• The Kestrel
• Peak of the Mountain

[scenic otter]

Crab ring? https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcGYDZiA
Gives up to 20%ms

[dull wolf]

rings, the new relic etc

[near grove]

noted, thanks!
looks like I'll have to adjust things after a while
relic looks strong af, but I bet getting it with even 0 lp going to be pretty hard

[scenic otter]

You'll have to even reach the fight first-

[near grove]

is it uber aberoth? please say it's not it, I've not even fought usual one once T_T

[torn stump]

yes

[scenic otter]

I got bad news for you.

[near grove]

mind sharing the planner? coz I don't quite see what's the belt/gloves mods are these

[dusky monolith]

heartseeker will it be good, wanna start with that

[topaz schooner]

I hope you have realistic expectations because PoE2s wasd is EXTREMELY polished, this wasd is likely clunky and in beta

[scenic otter]

Most importantly it doesn't allow you to move while casting.

[topaz schooner]

Understandably as thatd require entirely new animations

[scenic otter]

And a whole balancing change honestly.

[topaz schooner]

I'll definitely stick to mouse

I have a feeling theres going to be tons of people complaining and saying how much wasd sucks. They have zero idea the amount of work GGG did for poe2, literally building an entirely new game around it

[scenic otter]

yeah WASD for LE is mostly for "I don't want to use a mouse to move" and that's it.

And saving wrists

[small flame]

i know lol i still got to try it out see if it's manageable

[pallid lake]

is there a cap on how many umbral blades can be on ground at the same time?

[scenic otter]

unspecced? No cap.

[pallid lake]

and what spec could limit it?

[scenic otter]

Bladestorm limits it to 3.
Exploding blades technically has no limit but since they auto explode when an enemy comes near...

[pallid lake]

ok

thanks*

I have this project of a very weird build

[scenic otter]

Some UB return spam setup?

[pallid lake]

Well, it wasn't an UB build to begin with

more like

a melee marksman using shurikens to generate mana (23/use) in order to spam synchro for more shurikens

and since shadows can leave umbral, it could fit the build nicely

[scenic otter]

So a shuriken throwing build.

I'm curious why Marksman tho

[pallid lake]

because other masteries are getting 8 mana per throw

while MM get 23

so 3 times as effective

[scenic otter]

Oh,,mana wrap.

[pallid lake]

and the mana cost increases doesn't screw up synchro, so it's theoretically all good

[scenic otter]

You'll be right, yeah.

I'm somewhat worried about the damage since MM doesn't have much throwing support otherwise

[pallid lake]

the throwing support in all mastery is mostly on the first half

and since you only need 45 pts in MM, you are fine to invest in other trees

[dull wolf]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOGjR65B still wip

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (19) / Marksman (70)

General:

▸ Health: 2,552, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 191.41, Regen: 10.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 59 Dex / 13 Int / 3 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / 95% / 160% / 89% / 83% / 82% / 87%
▸ EHP: 7,880 / 7,880 / 7,880 / 8,559 / 7,880 / 7,880 / 7,880

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 510
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (1013)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (902)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 36%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Bow, Throwing, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Arrow Storm, Bow Mastery (1/5), Concentration, Swiftness, Crimson Shroud (1/3), Dusk Shroud (1), Frenzy, Haste

Used skills:

• Heartseeker (26)
• Puncture (22)
• Decoy (21)
• Shift (21)
• Smoke Bomb (21)

Used unique items:

• Sanguine Hoard
• Omnis
• Blood of the Exile
• Thorn Slinger
• Fingers of the Phantom Mire
• Valdyr's Chalice

[serene crane]

Just for the movement speed... Falconer:

• Hatse 30%
• Pursuit 5/8 in BD 8%
• Reflection 5/5 in MM 10%
• Tailwind 6/6 Falconer for 6% (x2 with recent Falcon hits, so 12%)
• Blood of the Exiles boots with max.roll 40% (10+30) / Last Steps 54% (18+36) but Chill so -12%
• t7 boots prefix 30%
• t7 experimental prefix 60% increased Haste effect: 18%
• 1x Silver ring with 8% ; Crab ring / Midnight ring for Swiftness 10% (1% per 10levels) = 18%
• Exsanguinous body armor 30% (for 4s when you use potion)
• Ward Tail belt 10%
• Nihilis amulet 8%
• Dual wield Naal's Tooth swords 10% each (20%) // 1x Naal's Tooth and Crystalwing quiver (10%) OR The Cuckoo off-hand Catalyst with 34% increased Haste effect)
• Fightning Chance gloves 10%
• Swift's Momentum 3/3 50% for 1.5s
• 2x [4x1] Idols with t7 MS = 5% each so 10%

---

224% with Haste, active Concentration and Swiftness + 30% after potion= 254% + 6% after Falcon hit = 260% + 50% for 1.5s after Shifting = 310%... ofc getting t7 maxrolled MS and Haste experimental is quite unreal I'd say... the rest is just about getting lucky with rolls

anything else I forgot? 😄

[heavy canopy]

At what point would be best to switch if i am starting as umbral falconer to heartseeker? I see so many guides and builds that suggest doin this. But none of them rly tell u at what point u can switch rly

[mystic ingot]

Is Lethal mirage viable for COF? or am i cooked

[dull wolf]

once you'd be able to get heartseeker

[serene crane]

Ofc it is, why wouldnt it be viable?

[dull wolf]

also HEAVILY relies on what heartseeker version youre going for

[mystic ingot]

skimmed through maxroll guide and had a huge emphasis on a harbinger drop, so wanted to confirm if its good to play before that

[fast basalt]

I took a break for more than a year and want to get back into LE tonight. I really enjoyed the detonating arrow marksman with jelkhors, is that build still viable or should I do some research on a new build I might like?

[dull wolf]

do something new, enjoy the variety

farcry 3 insanity speech

[fast basalt]

I will later once I got back in, I enjoyed the play style and would like to stick with something familiar for the start until I warmed up again 😊was it nerfed heavily or not playable anymore?

[scenic otter]

Kinda got stabbed.

[fast basalt]

Any build that works similar you guys would suggest?

[serene crane]

Its definitely playable, getting Black Blade drop isnt hard, but... you need to get lucky with rolls based on what you want to use it for 😄 when I started LM Black Blade for shadow daggers, you can definitely kill Lagon+Harb with just Puncture shadow daggers (every hit = 2SD stacks, so 2 Puncture hits = SD proc)... Ragu here likes Fulgurites that also reduce LM cooldown, but I just kept playing with 2H swords until Black Blade dropped 😄

Idk really about the build on maxxroll, I'd change some stuff around there tbh

[mystic ingot]

-# I have no idea of what 90% of this means, sorry 😭

I just want to know if i can lethal mirage mobs happily from the start without feeling bricked

my full release journey was with a invoker runemaster so its almost like a fresh start :p

from what i understand you described a skill rotation that works? i will research more then

[near grove]

Are these gloves good btw? Losing evade isn't too bad for bossing?

Missed previous wasd discussion, I'm praying they made targeting on controller much better, tried new gamepad few days ago and it was pretty comfy, but targeting as it is rn is pretty rough

[dull wolf]

got enough MS for it to not matter + I barely ever stand still

[serene crane]

Weeell kinda 😄 what is that maxroll build?

[mystic ingot]

this!
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/lethal-mirage-bladedancer-guide

[vast remnant]

Heartseeker is "only" A Tier on maxroll? Is that right, did someone tried it out on testing ?

[serene crane]

• You can just start and lvl up with this Puncture
• stacking physical damage and %increased physical damage so your hits and also shadow daggers (from the most-right node) do more damage
• Lethal Mirage on its own wont do that much, but you can take Shift and the most-right node will make any skill you use atfer Shifting a 100% crit... so you dont really need to stack crit chance for that (also shadow daggers have 100% crit chance too)... so with this you can make Lethal Mirage do some nice damage whener you get Shift+LM cooldowns ready
• to have LM apply Shadow Daggers (SD; the big damage hitters), you would also need those two Penumbra rings which are a bit meh to get... as MG you just buy them I guess, as CoF you'll have tu run 40wave arena and kill Crimson boss at the end to drop it... it has few useful stats but mostly the one that says "50% chance to apply SD on hit with LM"... so two of them = a lot SD proccs
• running Puncture should be good enough for like 200corruption or until you get Black Blade (which nearly removes entire cooldown on LM)... but this 2H sword drops from Lagon Harbringer, which is pretty crap fight... or Abberoth, but dont worry about that 😄

[mystic ingot]

that is immensely helpful, thank you very much for the detailed message 🙏

[serene crane]

Np, can ask here anytime 😄 Make sure to grab this when you can... idols with Shadow Daggers %pen shouldnt be too hard to find; SD %pen can be also on helmet and body armor, so that can boost the damage a lot... also If you can get Armor shred, that will be helpful too (since its all physical damage)

right, also this on body armor should make your life easier... or just keep playing with Puncutre that can give you mana on hit, so you LM=>poke with puncutre few times=>LM

[mystic ingot]

do you have a recommendation for what weapon bases to aim for? given that the guide only mentions the unique

[serene crane]

Flat physical damage, %crit multi (Odachi)... or Zweihander that has %phys penetration... shadow daggers are both melee and throw hits and have 100% crit chance

with Puncture getting attack speed should be nice, so more hits = more SD stacks 😄

For uniques If you have around Dreamthorn for lv10 thats really nice, The Last Laugh also a bit later or Merophage... lv80 has Leviathan, which should work aswell, but by then I think it should be able to get Black Blade drop 🤔

[mystic ingot]

any useful unique to target farm on early mapping?

not just for this build, but in general

i mean like when you finish campaign and start exploring monoliths, dunno if the term mapping is used here lol

[wind jewel]

Will ballista falconer still be good this league?

[serene crane]

Woven Flesh from the 1st boss so you dont have to worry about crits; Titan Heart when you play with 2H is definitely nice...

Anguish ring from Shade of Orobyss should be ez to get early on too

[mystic ingot]

sounds good

i remember that theres a very cool rune that may upgrade one item to unique rarity

is there something i should aim for

[serene crane]

oh and Crab ring I guess, should be nice too 😄 some movement speed, vitality, all stats, bit of armor, crab friend

[pallid lake]

yes, despite the astroturfing around it, HS is just a great skill, not the second coming of jesus

it's not breaking the game nor warp the meta around it

[serene crane]

I would say Titan Heart body armor... at least for this build 😄 weapon is boss drop, rings are boss drop, amulet is boss drop... could try gloves for Lirakas / Ravenous Void if you get omega superduper lucky, but not mandatory and rest of the gear is just what you get/prefer

[mystic ingot]

gotcha. titam heart seems to be 6% chance, not bad i guess :p

Is it worth to keep doing it for LP, or this method can only give 0 lp?

btw sorry if this is unrelated to rogue talk, just trying to learn a bit before diving into cof haha

[nocturne forge]

does any1 know with the shift passive point (deal more damage with next ability after shifting), if you take the shadow cascade node where u auto use it after shifting, does the more damage apply to the cascade? or do you have to manually use the ability

[bright python]

I read the patch notes right in that we can respec our specialized class in this patch right? So I could level up as say: falcon, then later on respec it back into marksman?

[pallid lake]

it shouldn't, but given shadow cascade is bugged all around, it wouldn't be that surprising either

[eternal heron]

yeah but it costs like 500k gold iirc so not great early

[scenic otter]

No, only works on direct casts

[bright python]

100K gold at lvl 70 doesn't seem terrible (found the list on the patch notes)

[eternal heron]

i disagree but we might just have different uses for our gold

either way it's definitely possible

[solar cape]

does peak of the mountain overide healing on crit from other sources such as prism wraps?

[ruby stream]

guys

i need some help

what build is dread playing here

https://youtu.be/KjMmY0xARz4?si=nlAWYcLoDZkw-WMf&t=85

its look hella fun

[eternal heron]

can't beats can

most peak builds either don't use health and go ward or get non leech sustain

[flint turret]

Throwing cascade

[ruby stream]

yeee found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXIL3mS0aik

[flint turret]

It disables only leech on crit, the rest works fine. Health on kill, health on hit or whatever

[ruby stream]

wonder if it got nerfed, I have never played a bladedancer build

[solar cape]

yea but reading prism wraps it is in particular elemental damage leeched as health on crit

[flint turret]

You can't leech from crits with peak, it explicitly says that

[serene crane]

If you get 0LP, just throw that (well or 99.99% unqiues ingame with 0LP) into Nemesis egg and it can either get LP or some random affixes... either way you get somewhat more useful item 😄

2LP Titan is... probably doable with Ascendancy runes, buuuut quite lucky 😄 3LP... I havent even gotten that from thousand or f-ton a lot of unique body armor drops from CoF prophecies... 😄

2x 3LP Exsa, but no Titan

@flint turret check my post above about movement speed, we could go real fast

[flint turret]

Yeah I saw it briefly, and I haven't looked at the planner that trinx posted. Kinda busy today, I'll check it when I can. the severs will be half-dead probably on season start anyway, due to poe2 refugees, so starting late or tomorrow is the way most likely

Well at least Europe for sure

[serene crane]

I hope the servers will be fine, Easter holiday start today for me until Monday, so the gear gotta keep grinding... or something like that

[flint turret]

Gl to those brave souls who are preparing to start in a group

[heavy canopy]

Oh haha. Im not a pro so mostly going to start with the maxroll and make chances if i see some stuff that is better by streamers/ppl.

[heavy canopy]

So that be basicly at around level 50? While i saw some streamer say 70.
But im not rly understandin why u would switch later than the moment u can take heartseeker. If that other build is stronger. Why switch at all 😅

[solar cape]

should be before 50... it requires 50 total points spent but you should acquire a number of points throughout the campaign

[fleet dome]

is there video showing heartseeker? is gonna be good clear wise?

[native wedge]

There is one

[native wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUHpA83Z9DE&t=382s

[fleet dome]

oh thanks

[native wedge]

I got you!

[terse bloom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/jYhpFHt1VV

[sage fractal]

Is removing dodge rating from enemies all that important? Any kind of numbers I could get somewhere how much dps gain there is on being able to reduce enemy's ability to dodge?

[boreal walrus]

[valid sky]

guys what is the difference between the Umbral Blades Falconer (with bow and explosive trap) and Shadow Daggers Falconer with daggers instead of a bow? which one is better?

[bitter ruin]

the one you wanna play ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pulsar copper]

yo can anyone suggest any poison builds for rogue?

[scenic otter]

(He doesn't know chat.)

[pulsar copper]

clearly i dont

[scenic otter]

Poison in general is currently the weakest ailment, there's only two known builds in the game that can make it past abberoth with poison. Stygian Coal Poison Lich and Scorpion Poison Nova BM.

[pulsar copper]

ohhh thanks

i guess not then😒

[boreal walrus]

[serene crane]

Poison Dancing Strikes with dual Drought daggers... DS, Shift, Acid Flask, Explo trap, Smoke/Umbrals, lets gooo

oooorrrrr drop Shift, take traversal smoke... orrrrr drop Acid flask and take shurikens 🤔

[desert hazel]

There is some theorycrafting with Dual Ailments heartseeker but it still mostly scales bleed with poison as a secondary source of damage just on the power of the armor shred to poison node

[slow sierra]

It can be a huge dps boost against enemies that can dodge. However most enemies have 0 dodge.

[sage fractal]

🎻

[small flame]

haven't played since like a year ago and changed pc's is there any good levelling loot filters?

[slow sierra]

mostly just filter for good affixes for your leveling build

silver rings early heal/vit/phys resist

move speed etc

if you are playing Shadow daggers early getting Kris can be good

[sweet cloud]

damn hs looks good can't wait 🥹

[slow sierra]

cold icicles going to make HS area clear insane

[boreal walrus]

[pseudo phoenix]

SD scales much differently than umbrals and umbrals need you to cap crit eventually. consensus seems to be that umbrals are going to overshadow SD

[wheat veldt]

heartseeker might be one of the strongest hitting abilities in the game if you spec it right. there is an insane amount of more multi factors you can throw in

[quiet briar]

Im curious whats the breakpoint of bow overshadowing shadow daggers. Do I need atleast a crit slam on my talons of valor?

[wheat veldt]

crystalwind is also a crazy quiver that they added

[wicked mulch]

Quick question, I'm thinking of starting the ZHP Ballista. I understand you focus on Dodge and the Silver Shroud to avoid hits, but how do you deal with DoTs?

[wheat veldt]

you dont

[slow sierra]

die

not called zhp for nothing

[wheat veldt]

^

[scenic otter]

don't get dot on you in the first place

[desert hazel]

dont stand in the fire

kill things before they put it near you

[wicked mulch]

and "long time" boss fights is ther alot of DoTs?

[open comet]

Uhm if you craft a set effect on a unique will it take one LP slot ?

[wheat veldt]

depends on the boss fight but most bosses do have circles on the ground you dont want to be in

[scenic otter]

Ground things are normally DoTs, some attacks don't hit but are dots.

[scenic otter]

You can't.

[slow sierra]

you cant

[serene crane]

You cant put set affixes on uniques

[open comet]

But on legendary ?

[serene crane]

no 😄

[scenic otter]

You can't either.

[open comet]

Huh what is the set crafting then ?

They announced

[scenic otter]

Breaking down sets to get set affix shards to get some of a set's effects onto a normal item, turning it into a reforged set.

[slow sierra]

you can put set affix on a exhalted item and it be comes a set item

you cant slam it on a unique

[serene crane]

But when you have set affix on rare/exalt, it becomes... eh, idk how they call it... either way that "custom" item with set affix becomes pairable with the usual green set items

[open comet]

Oooh so you can get it on exalted but can't transfer it afterwards ?

If you wanna craft legendary

[serene crane]

With set affix on, its pretty much isnt exalted anymore, so it doesnt count to the legendary crafting

[open comet]

That's kinda ass

[scenic otter]

Correct, it's not an exalted anymore.

[open comet]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[desert hazel]

its a trade-off set vs legendary

[wheat veldt]

can only use an exalted to craft with LP and reforged set item is not exalted

[desert hazel]

better than the old set items which were worse

[open comet]

Always legendary with Lp

[desert hazel]

there are builds that will want 2 or 3 pieces that are Set pieces

[serene crane]

Yeah, but it'll have to compete with 1LP uniques where you can slam any t7 you want with 100% success chance 😄

Some exceptions, ye

[wheat veldt]

gonna be 4 times less 1lp red rings being thrown into the grinder now

[slow sierra]

I just hope the servers hold up

[open comet]

Doubt they can compete with legendary items with T7 mods

Did you see t7 mods ?

[wheat veldt]

if my acid flask mad scientist build doesnt end up working like i want, oneshot heartseeker gonna be the next

[open comet]

I hope so too because today is their only chance gettin a lot of new players from poe

[wheat veldt]

nah, they got some time im sure. poe2 was such a rough start a couple weeks ago people are out here frothing at the mouths

[clever tinsel]

poe2 was like 3-4h of issues, then fixed

iirc le 1.0 was like a week of issues

hoepfully not the case again

[open comet]

LE launch was a disaster and people will bring that up trust me

[wheat veldt]

that true, launch was quite rough. i remember spending 3 hours trying to leave the starter town

[serene crane]

ngl two different games from two very different teams 😄

[analog wave]

Will you be leveling with ballista as well?

[open comet]

Doesn't matter for most people
They just wanna play

That's the harsh truth

Especially with all the Poe streamers showing up today

[serene crane]

poe addicts will poe no matter and poe patches are just like a rollercoaster... GGG releases a patch, its garbo on fire, community trashes them, GGG announces a new patch to fix things, then community praises them, repeat

[open comet]

Even Neversink got the game

[spark burrow]

LE-61 ptsd

[wheat veldt]

LE-62, LE-61's evil twin brother

[serene crane]

Yeah because its easy views for them, most PoE streamers will be gone in like 1-3 weeks max

Well, gone... back to poe addiction

[glossy mortar]

Yes, I'm planning on starting with a ballista rogue in v1.2.

[spark burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-poe-jonathan-vision-poe2-gif-11891461211906223399

[clever tinsel]

i mean that's inaccurate af, poe2 is more viewers for most streamers but current poe2 patch is bad

[wheat veldt]

isnt that kinda the cycle aRPG's follow though, a few weeks of gameplay then another one drops a new season and you go to that, or you do variety games after the economy dies off. not exactly unique

[clever tinsel]

yeah

[serene crane]

New content for them, twitch drops are easy numbers, so I doubt its really inaccurate af

[open comet]

i mean isnt this the cycle for all ARPGS haha

i just hope we will have season 3 faster then 10 months or something pls EHG now is your time

im fine with a new league every 4 months or something

Still it's very good for last epoch because if 20k people watch they will gain new long term players from it

[wheat veldt]

based on the patch notes this season is going to be absolutely massive for them. like 2-3 poe seasons worth of new content basically.

[blazing timber]

is there any recommanded melee build for rouge?

[open comet]

They need to
Community was starving for like 8 months or something

[wheat veldt]

multishot

[open comet]

This is their revive of last epoch

[scenic otter]

Shadow Cascade

[blazing timber]

isnt that range? hehe

[wheat veldt]

true, i didnt even know about loot lizards and now im being told they are being nerfed.

[serene crane]

But ye, hopefully next big patches wont be that long of a wait...

[wheat veldt]

im just like, hey anything is better than nothing right/

[blazing timber]

lolx

[wheat veldt]

one would think

[serene crane]

Puncture, lets go

[serene crane]

Weeeeell... 60% less spawn rate but increased rarity... also some lizard nodes in Weaver tree, chance to spawn lizards from some chests/champions, idk... and a dungeon key that somehow boosts the spawn rate by a lot I guess, probably wont be so terrible at all

[cloud vine]

Is sync strike + cascade still a viable path?

[serene crane]

Yeah

[cloud vine]

Remember it being pretty satisfying, so that's good

[wheat veldt]

yeah looking through weaver tree there is a ton of very interesting stuff, chance for dungeon boss loot while mapping, chance to get t7 sealed affix drops, double boss and double echo chance, super arenas if you are into that brainless content

[serene crane]

Ive read only few of the nodes, but its already looking more interesting than PoE atlas tree tbh... 😄

[wheat veldt]

they reduced the number fo waves there normally is for arenas, and then you can further reduce it by 2, and turn it into a super arena and increase pack size for monsters in them.

[serene crane]

also something about faster wave spawn, mobs movement speed I think? Definitely better 😄

[boreal walrus]

[mortal widget]

Best way to farm that dragonfire bow?

[chrome wren]

What's a good leveling build? Puncture?

[winter meadow]

any trap viable builds still? played on launch and iirc i was using a dual dagger lightning something build 🤔

(asking so i can look for the build)

[serene crane]

Not buying from MG? Just few prophecies for unique bows and it should drop quite fast... 36LPL so might even get lucky

[desert hazel]

the point is you can upgrade the set affixes up to T7 , and you can craft the rest of the affixes as well

well havoc them to T7

and craft to T5

[mortal widget]

I'm relatively new so will need to look into all that, was just curious if there was an easy way to farm it

[serene crane]

Ye its definitely great If you dont have to use any unique for the build and just need that set affix

[desert hazel]

hopefully it is useful for a few builds there are some good ones like Time Rot set and the invoker ring with ignite chance and fire Damage over time

[winter meadow]

by following CoF faction (circle of fortune) you are allowed to "seek" for specific items. What Olvrin said is that you can just focus on Unique Bows on the telescope thingy and it`ll be easy

[desert hazel]

but in general it will be good for future updates when we get more and better sets

[analog wave]

Nice, how do you plan on handling the mana cost early? Puncture with mana on hit?

[void cargo]

will uopdate come when server lunch or it was alrdy???

[serene crane]

Well, If you start Cycle (like season where everyone starts from 0), you can either go MG (trading guild where you can buy/sell items, it should be very active at the start) or CoF where you basically get like a little mini-side-quests for loot so you can farm a specific item types

[mortal widget]

got it - so MG = trade CoF = more for solo players

[mortal widget]

Neat!

[void cargo]

now its even easyer farm legos, u can add them to weaver tree or monolith dont rember

[winter meadow]

yup. CoF used to be referred as loot hack, dunno if it was tweaked down LOL

[glossy mortar]

I have no plans at the moment, I'm just going to try and get mana from potion use as quickly as possible. I might not even spec ballista as a skill until I get some source of mana

[pallid lake]

in which universe lol

mg always had been better for minmaxing

like, not even close

[winter meadow]

in the one i used to play? im talking about the amount of items

pff come on yu know what i mean

🙂

[serene crane]

Most of the items are useless garbage not worth picking up 😄

[winter meadow]

didnt say they were top tier haha xD

[void cargo]

MG players later coming items cost to much and there was gold duppe lmfo 🤣

COF4ever

[pallid lake]

he is looking for specific items, of course mg is going to help with that magnitude better than cof

[analog wave]

Ah okay

[void cargo]

and when u race u in HC u anyway HC SSF

[winter meadow]

read again, i was talking broadly about cof.

and again, you totally understood 🙂

[serene crane]

If you plan on playing legacy, even starting a new char, I would just start with CoF either way... majority of people will most likely go cycle so the market is fresh

[void cargo]

i dont see point playe kegacy where u alrdy got most of items

[winter meadow]

@mortal widget one thing to note: you can swap factions. So if you feeling experimenting, feel free to

all items dropped on CoF are untradeable tho

[pallid lake]

yes, and i'm telling you, you are the very first one calling cof a loot hack. It's not

[serene crane]

But I guess you still need to unlock MG/CoF in later act, unless this will count for fresh cycle characters? 🤔

[slow sierra]

You also should mention that you would lose access to most of your currently equipped gear when swapping factions

[serene crane]

I just rather play with my already farmed gear than grinding everything from 0 and since I dont care aboout MG gameplay or leaderboards, cycle is fully pointless for me 😄

[rugged pollen]

if you dont play trade i dont see any reason to play cycle instead of legacy

[scenic otter]

One is for getting loot explosions, one is trade, the latter is technically more powerful but the former is self-sustaining.

[rugged pollen]

you have zero cycle content anyway

[serene crane]

You can gift CoF-marked item, but to use it the character also in CoF

[clever tinsel]

i went MG in 1.0, not sure I wanna do that again

had to spend so much time in trade town

[serene crane]

Yeah I think people asked for better MG UI and its still not there... I think? but it is what it is... Ive also suggested some easy-to-view prophecy UI while rolling new prophecies, prophecy filter... so maybe some day 😄

[slow sierra]

I just hate trading and I like the progression of me being able to target what I want and craft it myself just seems rewarding to me. Collecting a bunch of items I do not want and selling them to get the item I do want seems rather boring and unfulfilling. Just preferences.

[serene crane]

The usual explosions with several prophecies at once... and the only thing I kept from this is 1LP Aaron to my collection of 7 other 1LP Aarons that I dont need because I dont play it

[pallid lake]

now apply your filter

[scenic otter]

And then he tells you he doesn't filter uniques.

[serene crane]

I only recolor 3LP+ uniques and 18WW+

[glossy mortar]

Yea, people's inventories are gonna fill up really fast now that we can recycle the 0-2 LPs that don't have ideal rolls.

[serene crane]

Idk, filtering uniques in loot filter is a bit meh

[twilit steeple]

what are you playingh boys

[unkempt tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-yummy-eating-nut-peanut-gif-16997475277966055265

[pallid lake]

I mean, in cof, i'm not bothering with other classes uniques, for instance

if I reroll, I will drop them on the other character

I will maybe make an exception if the LP is 3+

[serene crane]

Then you would also need to check required lvl of every unique to show some basic low lvl ones

[novel rune]

also some 1 LPs can be giga rare

so def dont wanna miss that

[serene crane]

Ye imagine filtering out 1LP Ravs... oh 2LP

[elder rain]

you would never filter 1 lp items now because you can use them to upgrade tho right?

[novel rune]

ye

also 0 LP are value too

because of divining

you feed 0 LP ones into your LP unique to roll better

[elder rain]

until you brick

[novel rune]

specially great for uniques with big roll values

like the new belt that rolls 1-25 int

[serene crane]

cries in Black Blade rolls...

[novel rune]

or shattered worlds aware

uber farming xd

[serene crane]

205 Aberroth eyes here we come

[elder rain]

anyone else using terek's leveling guide?

[fathom pagoda]

does anyone know of a bladedancer lvl guide? or guide in general? i'm lost

[serene crane]

Also, I think you or someone else has already explained it, but Im smooth brain and ask again....
If I have slammed legendary with 2 affixes, can I that slammed leg. to divine another non-slammed 2LP (or less)?

[blazing timber]

anyone planning to play COF? i have no friends so i am going cof too hehe

[elder rain]

are you guys using the term "divine" in the same way it is for poe??

or is that adding LP

[slow sierra]

I think You have to feed same LP ones

[glossy mortar]

On reddit there was a poll recently and 75% of the people were in CoF rather than Merchants. I think CoF is generally more popular

[slow sierra]

if you want to feed them it needs to be a 2LP to make a 2LP better

[serene crane]

ye pretty much

[blazing timber]

that's alot.. well....most of the time u are soloing ..........

[novel rune]

no idea how it works with finished legendaries

[serene crane]

Even if the slammed is "technically" 2LP too but already post-slam? 🤔 eh I guess we'll see soon enough 😄

[serene crane]

I'd pick Puncture and go right to the Shadow Daggers node

[flint turret]

Cof is much more powerful in a group because you can gift items in the same game without restrictions, and in mg it doesn't make any difference really

[novel rune]

i thought it just requires the same unique

[fathom pagoda]

ty

[slow sierra]

Pretty sure to do the "upgrade" mechanic they need to be of equal LP

[blazing timber]

O..i thought COF is meant for solo...didnt know u coulld gift

[serene crane]

Btw, make sure to connect your Steam to Twitch for the twitch drops

[open comet]

no preload is harsh

[novel rune]

gotta look into that again

[serene crane]

You can trade items to the party members while they were near you (same instance, max 2 screens away from you) when the item dropped

So... we go Aberroth, he drops 4LP Nihilus for you so you can gift it to me

[novel rune]

xd

[flint turret]

And I believe it's possible to gift from mg to cof and vise versa too, but the item will keep the fraction req

[novel rune]

2 skills 4LP nihil

casual day1 gear

[fathom pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PmgTf34dw0
thoughts on this?

[serene crane]

"hey guys rate my league starter"

[fathom pagoda]

i'm new to LE and i wanna try bladedancer

[novel rune]

and every scam build creator in poe

"leaguestart" build and then its like "okay in act 1 equip these 4 uniques"

[blazing timber]

same here mate, i went offline and test it out...and seem like range is far more fun then melee haha

[fathom pagoda]

fun in terms on speed clearing/survivability or fun in playstyle?

[maiden gale]

you prob have to play SD for starter blade dancer

then move into another build when you actually have the gear for it

[worthy oriole]

heartseeeker

[fathom pagoda]

SD

?

[maiden gale]

shadow dagger

[novel rune]

shadow daggers

[blazing timber]

survivability mate

[novel rune]

use umbral blades to apply

ez

[alpine void]

Is there will be update? Or i can start at the timer ends?

[worthy oriole]

man im so hype

[serene crane]

It looks like big endgame build, so no.... 😄 you can start with Dancing Strikes that proc Shadow Cascade, but dont look at all that gear there 😄

[novel rune]

update comes in 2 mins

[flint turret]

I'm pretty sure rogue can kill any boss in the story wearing just white dagger and having sd umbrals and smoke specced, with some practice

[novel rune]

roughly

[novel rune]

yee, im talking PoE scam build channels xd

[blazing timber]

i went to maxroll and saw heartseeker.......gonna try that....i see many people are talking about it

[novel rune]

and if that white dagger is kris

[worthy oriole]

LE-65 please dont appear on my screen tonight

[novel rune]

you can prob go all the way to empowered

[blazing timber]

what's SD?

[flint turret]

Shadow daggers

[novel rune]

shadow daggers is giga early scaling and everyone recommends it cause it has baseline 100% crit chance

so you just need crit multi and phys dam

[blazing timber]

thanks

[novel rune]

and you delete things

[fathom pagoda]

cant find shadow daggers

[flat hull]

one more min

[novel rune]

its procced by several skills

umbral blades, puncture etc

[flat hull]

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-gotg-now-what-gif-11323689

[fathom pagoda]

ty

[blazing timber]

the point is...melee range.,...sometime the boss would just 1 shot me haha

[novel rune]

usually ppl use umbral blades for it

[flat hull]

any thoughts on becoming Yondu

[novel rune]

ye you kinda have to rely on movement from shift etc

[maiden gale]

this is a pretty standard arpg melee vs ranged issue lmao

[novel rune]

27% pog

patch is up

reboot steam if it doesnt show

[worthy oriole]

patching...

[flint turret]

If you don't ignore forging gear and your sd build is okay, you will be killing all bosses in story in 2 fast comboes max

[fathom pagoda]

only 7,3 gb update is crazy

[warm zephyr]

seems funny as a secondary skill. seems like it wouldn't work as your main skill though because of lack of AOE and strict gearing reqs (Ravager, recurve chance affixes and idols, throwing damage). Might be proven wrong, idk

[novel rune]

seek for kris daggers as you hit 27 lvl if you level with SD

[open comet]

damn only 7gb is wild

thats a smoll season

[novel rune]

i mean its mostly endgame stuff

[serene crane]

Does anyone remember the guy in general chat talking about how there is no new content in 1.2 about 3 weeks ago? 😄

[blazing timber]

i hope WASD work nice with range........

[novel rune]

someone clueless

[flat hull]

6k players to a quick 30k jump on st charts

[open comet]

download servers breaking ?

[novel rune]

in a way this is almost bigger than 1.0

[blazing timber]

steam server won't break so easy............

[open comet]

i have a 100k connection but i download with this

[blazing timber]

i dont think i see steam download server break before......

[novel rune]

steam limits the speed i think

i never get full speed

[open comet]

normally that patch would be loaded in like 5 mins

[flat hull]

when you say 100k? you mean 1gig connection?

[open comet]

ye

[blazing timber]

......going to take sometime......

[flat hull]

hmm weird if you see such low

[open comet]

went up finally

[flat hull]

because me with 300Mbits = actualy net speed

there you go

[blazing timber]

holy shit

[low nexus]

anyone able to load in? It's telling me I can't connecdt o the login server.

[low nexus]

same

[flat hull]

its just ppl tryna connect

too many all at once

[fathom pagoda]

server crashing

[open comet]

WE ARE IN

[flat hull]

i wonder

are you in -> in not still at login screen

[open comet]

WASD FEELS SOOOO GOOD

[open comet]

im in

[fathom pagoda]

im on LE-52

that gotta be offline

[low nexus]

lol i got two

[blazing timber]

the general chat......o man.................

[alpine void]

😦 LE-52 can't enter

[flat hull]

lol all LE 52

[warm zephyr]

yep, got LE-55 at first, now LE-52

[little temple]

how do you get le-55 ?

higher number must be better

[wide yacht]

no worries man, check whenever you want, i even got an updated version anyways - ping me if you're around

anyways

here we go

[honest pawn]

Wut

[flat hull]

ay1 else got le52?

ye guess its offline mode for now

[wide yacht]

LE55 for me

[fathom pagoda]

i got in

[alpine void]

How do u change?

[fathom pagoda]

but i'm getting disconnected

nvm im in

[blazing timber]

so just keep pressing play online and hope i get in?

[alpine void]

Oh and, guys, if i go offline i can go online on next time plyaing?

[blazing timber]

online and offline char are not linked bro

[alpine void]

Oh, ok

[odd wadi]

iam in

[alpine void]

Yall just pressing online?

[blazing timber]

i am and still not in haha

[novel rune]

i will tell you once i get in

xd

actually im prob not putting WASD on till i get to monos

where its less laggy

[surreal prawn]

CAN'T CONNECT TO LOGIN SERVER, PLEASE CHECK YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION. IF THE ISSUE PERSISTS PLEASE VISIT SUPPORT FOR FURTHER ASSISTANCE 😭

[fathom pagoda]

I reinstalled and got in

[maiden gale]

bro spam in general with everyone else

[eternal phoenix]

i wanna Exp the WASD too

IF THE GAME LET ME IN

[blazing timber]

lol when poe2 first launch...i spend like 3 hours to be able to play the game...i wonder how is LE...

[novel rune]

in 1.0 it was laggy for several days

[eternal phoenix]

Might be better early in the morning, might as well sleep for now

[novel rune]

best thing you could do is rush to monos where it doesnt lag

cause monos dont call the matchmaking server

[alpine void]

poe 0.2 has lagging since launch on 4 april

[novel rune]

ye poe EU servers are cooked

[lament radish]

le52 rip

[fathom pagoda]

wasd is good, all i can say

controller good too for now

[alpine void]

How to change le52 😦

[novel rune]

you wait

[little temple]

there should be a guide to change it to le-55 soon

[maiden gale]

wasd would be so much better if i could swap left click to a a skill tho

[novel rune]

55 is matchingmaking server, that comes when you enter town

[blazing timber]

O

it's real..........

restart steam...

[novel rune]

restarting steam shouldnt change anything

its LE login servers that are bottlenecking

[blazing timber]

well i am in...............after i restart steam

so i dont know :/

[novel rune]

you just got lucky and slipped in

some ppl are getting in here and there

[blazing timber]

O

lucky me haha

and i got kick out..................LOL

[eternal phoenix]

Well might as well sleep for now. And just try later.

[novel rune]

its like a funnel being overflown

some ppl get in but most are stuck

my beautiful paint art

[gusty fox]

heartseeker is good? :3

[flat hull]

you can

cant you?

you cna switch move /interact to a different button

[novel rune]

i dont think anyone is far enough to unlock 30 points into MM tree yet

[flat hull]

mouse left click for another skill

[novel rune]

HOLY im in

[serene crane]

You are baaaack!

[eternal phoenix]

did a 2 week rest before season 2

[maiden gale]

it wont let me change that slot to a skill

[flat hull]

i see

[eternal phoenix]

well i hope you get in, coz i might as well sleep for now. been trying for like 40min

[alpine void]

Can't join :9

[serene crane]

Nope, getting LE-52 😄 but friend is streaming so its alright 😄

[flint turret]

As expected, servers dead as i can see

[scenic otter]

You can only have 5 skills on the bar so it has to be one of the skills already on the bar.

[flint turret]

Anyone in?

[eternal phoenix]

85k players and counting

[wide yacht]

yeah you do that, excellent idea -- the more people give up the more likely i'm gonna get in inserts evil laugh

[eternal phoenix]

but like many LE 52

[flint turret]

Same

[scenic otter]

103k

[alpine void]

Ok i'm in, but just don't create char xd

can't sorry

[eternal phoenix]

damn, it was like 85k, 5min ago lol

[rich blaze]

Is Bladedancer umbral builds not a thing anymore? I can't see it on maxroll

[haughty roost]

i believe its falconer umbral now

i was trying to decide between it or ballista myself

[eternal phoenix]

if u are checking ZHP Ballista from maxroll, just to tell you. Ballista falconer got nerf btw

[rich blaze]

Got it, I see lethal mirage being somewhat similar. Is it a high tier build?

[haughty roost]

i heard it got nerfed but is still pretty good. maybe that was wrong

[glossy mortar]

You can do umbral blades and ballistas. Ballistas got nerfed but they should still be fine. I'll be starting with it

[haughty roost]

thats if i can even get on the game

lol

its telling me to check my internet connection

[rich blaze]

I just prefer melee builds and have a hard time enjoying ranged ones

Unless it's absolutely shit I'll probably do lethal mirage

[haughty roost]

LE-52 the same error everyone else getting trying to log in?

[serene crane]

@rich blaze

[open comet]

ah damn

[glossy mortar]

Yes, I got an LE-55 error, but I still haven't been able to get in yet. Trying again once I verify steam files. I also tried restarting the steam app which was suggested in the General chat and seemed to work for others

[haughty roost]

i did all that and now it doesnt even load when i click the "online" button it just insta gave me the error

LOL

[queen delta]

for me it worked that i simply turned steams cloud save off for last epoch

but even with character created you cannot play

[flat hull]

steam cloud off means you practically offline

[eternal phoenix]

after spamming play online... well it work, not sure if i will get kick out tho xD

[flat hull]

either way they are probably working on the issues and now online mode is off

[queen delta]

nah got online char created

well its day one and news hyped ppl for the game so there is mannny in queue

[wide yacht]

disabling steam cloud did fix it instantly

but prolly character creation won't pass

[queen delta]

yep

the rouge lovers are waiting 😄

[open comet]

perfect for leveling lets gooo

we zoomin

[queen delta]

seems some were lucky to get inside before getting stuck in the hopper 😄

[little temple]

holy hell

[eternal phoenix]

how the heck did u get one already

[topaz schooner]

I'm late are the servers on fire

[little temple]

nems

[topaz schooner]

neme

[little temple]

horrible stats though, upgraded 3 times

[queen delta]

hellfire kaj

[topaz schooner]

LOL

alright i didnt miss much

i slept an extra hour

[eternal phoenix]

u didn't miss much coz of server issue

many people getting in now tho

so think of it waking up to server being stable lol

GOD I LOVE WASD

[flint turret]

So far exactly as expected. I managed to get to lvl 7 in the first 4-5 hours in 1.0 before going to sleep. So far all goes according to plan

[topaz schooner]

[tight harbor]

how do u guys feel about shift on WASD?

[flint turret]

God dam poe refugees took our servers

[haughty roost]

solo self found good in this game?

not sure if i want to go solo self or just regular

[queen delta]

getting fork and torch

[eternal phoenix]

still getting used to it that for sure

but it is so nice to have actual movement on WASD while just atk with mouse

[maiden gale]

i rebound it to a side mouse button

[eternal phoenix]

i don't have to press left click to kite and right to atk is godsend

[flint turret]

Ssf and cof faction are different things, but overall, non-trading faction is the best ssf experience compared to any arpg probably

[haughty roost]

i see. but then i cant play with the homies

[flint turret]

You can

[odd wadi]

rereeee

[haughty roost]

says no partying in the description

[tight harbor]

New members sending pictures here is pretty dope

[tight harbor]

this was mine

[flint turret]

And you can even gift gear dropped in the same game ( again, I'm not talking about ssf. I'm talking about cof faction)

[tight harbor]

I rebinded my spacebar 💀

[nocturne forge]

shadow daggers still best leveling?

[flint turret]

Arguably yes, or one of the best for sure

[haughty roost]

got in past character select and got insta kicked back to character select

damn

[flat hull]

lol i managed to get into online..but it was a stuttery mess so i went out to change region

then bam...no more online play XD

[bright lintel]

as a marksman is there no way to fire and move at the same time? or do you always stop while you shoot?

[finite hound]

no more online play?

the button is gone xD?

[flat hull]

ah yes im in again

keep restarting game :d

[serene crane]

Yea its like that, its not exactly like in PoE2 where you move slowly while attacking 😄

[queen delta]

innnn. just believe in whatever god you wanna believe and keep pressing the button to enter. its gonna work

😄

[bright lintel]

ahh got it

[serene crane]

Well that is unless you use some instant skills... 😄

[flint turret]

I already made a macro to spam online play, no luck still

[leaden vessel]

trade or cof? playing off meta build thinking trade will be giga free

[maiden gale]

realisticly trade is always the "best". it just depends if you want to deal with markets all the time

[raven wave]

its crazy they didnt implement a login queue

[leaden vessel]

never did trade before

[raven wave]

trade shouldb e pretty fun at launch i think but i do love cof

[flint turret]

Trade makes you gear so fast you lose interest and drop the game

[serene crane]

If you go cycle, then MG... could swap to CoF later I guess... legacy, CoF

[raven wave]

ye generally

[leaden vessel]

u can swap ?

[raven wave]

i didnt have issues farming gear on cof either really

[flint turret]

You can, but you won't be able to use the gear you bought after swapping

And vice versa

[raven wave]

it is quite literally a question of, do you want to sell/buy gear or do u want to find the gear urself

theyve done a decent job of it

[flint turret]

Overall cof is great self-farming experience. Can it compete with mg in terms of gearing speed at the first month? Definitely no. Is it perfect? No too. But it's still the best self-gearing system there is

[little temple]

it was going so well, i got kicked

nvm im in again lmao

[deft horizon]

bro my game crashed

i was lvl 24

:sadge

[eternal phoenix]

Hope you guys getting IN already. WASD is so nice

[gusty fox]

Poison flask

Is good for exp?

[bright python]

Gee I wonder what build I'm going with

[tender goblet]

The only unique Heartseeker item turning it into throwing damage is really lame, should only change its type if your throwing damage is higher than your bow damage. https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsGYHZyA

[leaden pilot]

Any reason to not go ballista falconer? VK warpath is my other choice

[serene crane]

Only reason to go falconer is If you dont want the desire to play anything else anytime soon

[leaden pilot]

Why do you say that?

[serene crane]

The power lvl is still quite higher than a lot of other stuff 😄

[topaz schooner]

@umbral vortex 's name lmfao

[eternal phoenix]

General online chat full of PoE refugee lol

[serene crane]

@eternal phoenix broooooo I cant transfer keys from my stash to the storage

[gray charm]

Hi, I just bought the game yesterday jumping from poe2, I’m gonna run rogue as I really liked the rogue in poe2 which of the masteries would you recommend?

[serene crane]

all tabs filled 😄

[eternal phoenix]

BRO! Not even if u drop it ?

[willow obsidian]

rip kurwa servers

[tulip compass]

can ballista ZHP go +500 corruption?

[serene crane]

Can shift+click move them to inventory 1by1 then Transfer...