🐺┃primalist

[obsidian star]

Oh this build transforms into spriggan but mine doesn’t, stays totem with upheaval totem

[patent dock]

You can get a lot more through EQ procs, but yeah slow to start without Bhuldar. It's a lot better now than it used to be, at least.

[shut laurel]

@near leaf !!!

14 prisons

got one and it rolled well it's usable

[tardy frost]

I doubt that it's viable as a primary damage source but if you are building say physical avalanche you can convert GS and maelstrom to phys

[vapid canopy]

Not really worth it then since I would have to either drop maelstrom or warcry to use fury leap.

I don't really like maul upheaval though...

[frigid wind]

Should I corrupt gear while leveling?

[vapid canopy]

That's why I went with with aftershock procs for now

[vapid canopy]

Absolutely!

Just not your main item

[frigid wind]

Because it can brick the item right?

[wheat nacelle]

first tried this and i failed a bunch on my flay lich last league

is my build.... not trash?!

[shut laurel]

[wheat nacelle]

wait hold on

ah wait no

i thought it was added as endurance threshold

would have been OP

[near leaf]

Holy!!
14 more for the double conversion

[wheat nacelle]

what an odd item

is it opop or weak i cant tell

[mossy coral]

OP if you can use it correctly

[wheat nacelle]

i managed to snag an underpriced nihilis and ima see if nemesis wants to be pog

then corrupt max affix value

ez

[mossy coral]

(It will give mana regen and spell crit multi)

[wheat nacelle]

i would like that lol

slop im currently using

tho i would like to manage to get frailty on hit osmewhere somehow

i can get like 2% on idol but thats low asf

[long totem]

I really want to try out a T7 whirlpool, shame exalted champ affixes are so rare

[wheat nacelle]

zoinks

[long totem]

Hmmm cleaver solution+madness seems like really good shaman tech

[wheat nacelle]

u can spam the woven echo

for sealed ones

but their t8 so

[long totem]

Oh, hmmm I don't currently have a primordial item for my Maelstrom build

[wheat nacelle]

then u could use that t8 affix

[unreal field]

Will do. But for me it’s about messing with melee shaman fantasy. Don’t expect it to reach crazy power level - maybe someday (season 5?)

[long totem]

Hmmm works out to 160-240 Ward/s, not sure how good that is relatively speaking, never really played a ward build

[wheat nacelle]

for ward u need like

a lil bit of everything

like threshold

etc etc

what i remember from my mage build

its not too hard to maintain overall

[shut laurel]

might be too soon to switch with my crit and I underestimated the drawback of apathy, it's not too much the health cost it's the amount of rage/mana loss on top

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oP69n52l

[unkempt thistle]

Druid, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (23) / Shaman (8) / Druid (60)

General:

▸ Health: 3,385, Regen: 541.76/s
▸ Mana: 144.6, Regen: 18.88/s
▸ Attributes: 207 Str / 34 Dex / 207 Int / 68 Att / 34 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 112% / 65% / 55% / 108% / 67% / 67%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 1,462
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (136)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 80% (13,591)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%

Used skills:

Upheaval / Summon Thorn Totem / Werebear Form / Swipe / Fury Leap

[long totem]

Yeah a T8 gives up to 800 ward threshold which is a good chunk

[shut laurel]

like I can run out of rage now when I never did before

did some 500+ monos and also 2 more fractured prisons

felt tankier standing in puddles but I don't think I like the yoyo hp

[devout cypress]

after playing around with the lightning shit, i think i have it figured out

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrX7KpK4

[unkempt thistle]

Druid, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (12) / Shaman (21) / Druid (60)

General:

▸ Health: 3,273, Regen: 122.74/s
▸ Mana: 383.41, Regen: 10.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 382%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 191 Str / 43 Dex / 191 Int / 89 Att / 62 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 78% / 74% / 110% / 76% / 103% / 140%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 1,187
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (313)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 59% (4,252)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 144%

Used skills:

Warcry / Gathering Storm / Fury Leap / Earthquake / Upheaval

[devout cypress]

its super wack, but it will work

[high stratus]

that's really not good for a primordial affix

[wheat nacelle]

if im doing lightning dmg and maintaining about 15 maelstrom stack is nihilis better or storms eye ?

[wheat nacelle]

it comes with the maelstrom stuff tho

[high stratus]

if you use twisted heart as your relic and selfcast you'll get way way more WPS and EHP than that

it's even a decent relic

well, better than decent but maybe not for your build idk

[wheat nacelle]

im not the one using the mod im just saying to the other guy

[high stratus]

not enough info to say really, you gotta work out whether the +2 all skills is worth more than the increased given your skill trees and % increased and the other benefits of nihilis

+2 all can be close to worthless or invaluable depending on the build

[wheat nacelle]

i do have every single dmg node on earthquake so its useless for that

tbh im kinda fine on skill level cuz of xylem

just the all res and more armour and regen also looks juicy

this wont be good for my build but maybe somehow for another

[frigid wind]

How do I acquire ?

[wheat nacelle]

buy or boss drop

from lagon

i should try to do a recording of boss

i legit just stunned emperor of bones and harbinger nonstop till death

quite satisfying

[frigid wind]

Monolith version I'm guessing?

[unreal field]

Druid but not bear 🐻?

[wheat nacelle]

think so

[wheat nacelle]

dodge her? i barely know her

alwayts forget it records my music too lol

but yeah the stuns are yum

same happened with shade lol

its only c100 tho

[polar vortex]

Sounds like a banger. What is it?

[wheat nacelle]

the build or the tunes lol

[polar vortex]

Tune

Both, actually lol

[wheat nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i47z0gyc-E

the tune

and build is some strange jank im cooking with

still perfecting it

but spell earthquake

i can link my planner if u want but its not perfect

[autumn dune]

can u show planner?

[near leaf]

Corruption?

[wheat nacelle]

sec for planner im editing n sending

[wheat nacelle]

just baesr 100

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYE93ynJ @autumn dune @polar vortex

[unkempt thistle]

Shaman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (13) / Shaman (80)

General:

▸ Health: 1,911, Regen: 99.55/s
▸ Mana: 904.51, Regen: 21.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 11 Dex / 11 Int / 98 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 63% / 143% / 40% / 0% / 11% / 11%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 446
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,121)

Used skills:

Summon Thorn Totem / Earthquake / Maelstrom / Summon Storm Totem / Warcry

[near leaf]

You know, if you are online you can just import your character in the planner

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Siduri/character/Confusedruid

There 😁 with your user name I found you

[dim merlin]

Dang tier4 julra is hard. Will take some time to get vessel of strife for me 🙂

[mossy coral]

She's extra BS if you're melee

[polar vortex]

Thanks for that and the planner

[wheat nacelle]

no problem

[wheat nacelle]

hacker

rip (cant do anything with this now right)

[deft kiln]

If he is timing war cry the invulnerable will overcome it

[wheat nacelle]

as in try to get 1 lp again

[wheat nacelle]

nah invuln goes to the totem

[deft kiln]

☠️

Bro tanked it like a man

[wheat nacelle]

nah

i stunned

[crude cosmos]

Are any primal items good for casters? Having a hard time finding something

[sly bobcat]

kinda plateau'd with upheaval now. mapping is fun for a while but I wanna do something else. what should my next build be?

[near leaf]

What corruption did you reach?

[sly bobcat]

400. i could go higher but bosses take a while even though I stun lock them

and I'm not entirely sure what my best damage upgrades are tbh

a corrupted omnis for maxed rolls could help shore up defenses since I'd get more health on my gear. the extra skill points would let me change off the weaver relic to like a strong crafted exalt or something

[dim merlin]

how many frogs is normal to have when running with them?

[blazing jacinth]

https://old.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1n8jcoc/tip_for_getting_reflect_damage_idols_in_cof/?share_id=YL_MwaYTI6KSPV1zJ1RVy

does this still work?

i tried it and never see "Small Weaver Idol"

[winter ivy]

It should still work. I've been seeing the small weaver idols show up for prophecies even though I don't target them.

[blazing jacinth]

ok maybe just unlucky

i have rolled like 30k favor looking and never found

but i'm not lvl 9 cof

[long totem]

I haven't seen anything that seemed incredible at a glance, but spirit Xylem could be all right for sure

Helps solve for defense via a big blob of HP, can run seeds of ekkidrasil for some additional defensive layer

[crude cosmos]

THanks! This is very helpful

[winter ivy]

I like Xylem a lot, but I think most of the Primordial items are great. Just depends on what you want to do.

[sly bobcat]

I got clowned on for saying Xylem was good when they were getting teased

i think it got a ton better with the addition of Apathy though

[devout cypress]

what do you even run with it?

[sly bobcat]

i planned on doing an avalanche build with it if I ever get around to it

[winter ivy]

I've been using it on Sentinel. I kinda wanna try it out with a few Primalist builds, including Sabertooth.

[sly bobcat]

i was gonna do channeled avalanche for single target, proccing spell-converted EQs. then self cast EQ for mapping

dunno if I would keep the aftershocks or if I would take the node that folds the aftershock damage into the initial hit

[long totem]

Tsunami Maelstrom

[long totem]

It's also great for Maelstrom because you are insanely hungry for points, you really want like 30-35 points available for Maelstrom

[sly bobcat]

maelstrom was previously relegated almost exclusively to storm bolts and haste/frenzy fodder

tsunami is pretty new since it was complete trash before

[long totem]

It's unironically pretty cool

I hit screen wide pretty consistently every like 2-3 seconds for a big chunk of damage, but my gear is also trash currently

Run avalanche for single target/mana spender

[last widget]

hi, anyone try using new idol Natural Wrath, Is it good ?

[devout cypress]

yeah im doing a really cursed build thats blasting through maps

[long totem]

Split damage type on that annoys me, or can you lightning convert Avalanche?

I guess it doesn't really matter since you can just scale spell damage generically

[sly bobcat]

nah it'd be split still. make penetration or res shred harder but generic spell damage works fine

you'd want to be attunement stacking anyway which is generic increase

[long totem]

I wish Maelstrom had a lightning convert so bad

[sly bobcat]

and since it's splitting the damage types already I figured phys convert storm bolts for the extra armor shred

[long totem]

I really need to sit down and plan out what kind of itemization this janked together maelstrom build wants

Leech is probably the only easy/viable recovery layer, ward is tricky to generate since we don't scale str really so cleaver doesn't solve, and we're using melee GS so can't really run Twisted Heart

I mean you still cast maelstrom manually but only once per 3 seconds

[devout cypress]

just mana tank?

[sly bobcat]

if you're stacking up maelstrom then the heal node is probably good with healing effectiveness

[long totem]

I mean seeds helps a bit, but that's only 20-ish% reduction

[sly bobcat]

20% reduction is a lot of DR

[long totem]

Yeah but then I need 40 points instead of 35

[sly bobcat]

time to find more points

[long totem]

Sigh, yeah probably correct

Plus with Xylem you can reliably stack another 20 on low mana, gotta be careful with mana management there but avalanche makes it easy enough to drop low

[alpine delta]

has anyone tried tornado shaman with Xylem instead of Butcher's Crown?

[long totem]

I mean it probably works, but butchers is mostly about mana Regen isn't it?

So you'd have to solve for that instead

[sly bobcat]

do you have something like this?

this is with just xylem and T7 level of maelstrom

I could see wanting another like 3 points for lagon's slumber

but the damage vs frozen/chilled node doesn't work for tsunami, don't super need mana efficiency if you're stacking apathy for regen, frenzy and haste are attainable elsewhere

[wise leaf]

It should be working for tsunami tho

[sly bobcat]

did they change the way they do their subskills this patch? technically it should but subskills previously weren't affected by the state of the target like chilled, ignited, etc

unless it specified that they were

[wise leaf]

Hmmm

Wait that isn't true

A big reason why eq was broken op for a long time was them being affected by the damage vs chilled node in the tree

[sly bobcat]

it specifies aftershocks

[wise leaf]

Ah

Goddammit

[sly bobcat]

yeah same goes for damaging ailments applied by skills. using the EQ chilled node, if you applied ignites they wouldn't get boosted vs chilled

[wise leaf]

I knew that one

[sly bobcat]

marrow shards' bone shatter stuff all needed the same "damage vs bleed" modifiers in order to have the same functionality as the rest of marrow shards

[near leaf]

No hot fix today 😢

[cinder moat]

Surely tomorrow is the day they hotfix tempest strike to be good

[subtle lodge]

Hey @wise leaf, how's your build looking this league? Happy with the changes?

[near leaf]

Need more than a hotfix

[near leaf]

Oof, that's mean

😏😎

He is waiting on Swipe to get bugfix

[cinder moat]

At least it keeps making it into the patch notes for changes that have no real impact

[near leaf]

I can't believe they reworked, and it's still abysmal and they left it there

It flopped on the sidewalk like a key lime pie. And was just left there to rot in the sunshine

[wise leaf]

🙁

[subtle lodge]

Oh no

[wise leaf]

Swipe is bugged

[subtle lodge]

Oh

[wise leaf]

Only procs shit half the time

[subtle lodge]

Bugs aside how is it?

[wise leaf]

Eb targetting issues in omen windows are atrocious

I can do it cos i have literal thousands of hours in the build

But i can't recommemd the build to anyone

[subtle lodge]

That sucks

[wise leaf]

In the hypothetical that swipe wasn't bugged and you can pilot it

Build is great

But it NEEDED some level of companion auto targetting

For eb

In other news the tsunami scaling node is ALSO bugged for scorp

Which ruins that build too

[winged swallow]

tsunami seems buggy in general. I literally can't see it when it procs

[hidden plume]

Does summon scorpion with avalanche scale with minion spell stats like +flat minion spell dmg? Scorpion does not get spell tag if i take avalanche node.

[subtle lodge]

Season not looking so great for you

[wise leaf]

Ehg not doing scorp related vfx right? Not surprising

[wise leaf]

Yes

[subtle lodge]

My FPS gets absolutely nuked inside those fracture breaches

[sly bobcat]

the triple omen window is visual nightmare. i love it

[winter ivy]

Just a screen full of healthbars

[subtle lodge]

I love seeing it, but the feeling of 30 FPS is just awful XD

[near leaf]

I have noticed that pets kill my fps over time

[wise leaf]

So minions don't need the specific attack tag to benefit from flat damage if they use that kinda of attack

[near leaf]

...

Tornado is so cooked

[wise leaf]

Those tags are more for +lvl interactions

[subtle lodge]

I'm not actually playing pets for once

Playing Cold RF

[near leaf]

If you take Channeled and Attached to you
Visually the tornado doesnt move anymore

But the hitbox still follow your cursor

And if you take Storm Orbs, they follow the hit box

What the hell EHG

[subtle lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[near leaf]

https://youtu.be/P4zBL-DEpNQ

Ghost nado anyone ?

Kill your foes without them noticing

[mossy coral]

This game have no bugs

[near leaf]

Alright I need someone with a bigger brain

My char is naked, nothing

[mossy coral]

1337 health

I wouldn't be surprised if it worked in offline

[subtle lodge]

Put some clothes on you maniac

[near leaf]

I have 50% More Dmg x 300% More Dmg x "Dmg per duration" for Tornado

I need to find a way to determine if its Inc Dmg or More Dmg per duration

For Tornado

[subtle lodge]

That's way too big brain for me

[near leaf]

I tried to ask the answer to Mike , but he didnt answer 🥲

[subtle lodge]

After restarting my game I don't think it was the fracture breaches killing my FPS

I think there could be a memory leak of some kind, kind a like you're experiencing

I restarted my game and I am back at 150+ FPS

[sly bobcat]

they're functionally the same I'm pretty sure. there's only the one node that affects tornado duration

oooh i see what you mean

it's probably more

[long totem]

Want slumber + cast on rare hit as a last filler mostly

Frenzy+haste would be nice QoL but very much not required

And lagons slumber is a hard yes

Since I'm using GS melee as filler

[sly bobcat]

you're required to have 13% to get to the channeled node. check the damage with that, put another point in. you should see something like a 10% increase in damage if it's a more modifier

if it's an increased modifier then the jump will be significantly less

[patent dock]

Stealth tornado, to catch your enemies by surprise

[near leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/meglepetés-gif-21774382

[patent dock]

I'd guess it's 'more', but we can do a full damage calc to verify

being naked is fun and makes that calc way easier lol

[near leaf]

👉👈 UwU

[sly bobcat]

the method I posted above should work. it'll be even more apparent with any increased damage from passive tree/gear

[near leaf]

Okay let me set smth up

All I needed to find the bear set was a couple prophecies I guess ^^

50% Inc phys x 50% More x 300% More "x 15% Duration" > 211 ticks

50% Inc phys x 50% More x 300% More "x 30% Duration" > 239 ticks

[sly bobcat]

yeah that's more damage then

[near leaf]

50% Inc phys x 50% More x 300% More "x 45% Duration" > 266 ticks

Okay thx ❤️

[sly bobcat]

15% more damage per point is actually pretty huge

if only tornado itself did damage

[near leaf]

I canfeel a Fire Tornado Spell Meme in growing in my mind

[sly bobcat]

firestarter's torch for the more fire DoT

[near leaf]

Maybe

[mossy coral]

Doesn't the balls deal a decent amount?

[near leaf]

Immolator Oblation + Maehlin + Laup for easy Self Ignite

"easy"

[near leaf]

Storm Orbs ?

[sly bobcat]

storm orbs have 100% ADE lel

[near leaf]

Apparently they dont scale with the tree

[near leaf]

Also this

[sly bobcat]

it'd be cool if the 300% more damage applied to indirect casts too

so I could proc them with wind tempest and do slightly more damage

[mossy coral]

yeah

What!? I swear they used to

[near leaf]

It appears the alt text is lying

Its clearly lying

Messing around with the More Dmg node, Storm Orbs clearly benefit from them

[mossy coral]

That's what I thought

[near leaf]

But doesnt convert to Fire

[mossy coral]

Bug report I guess

[near leaf]

3rd one tonight

Just for Tornado

[humble fog]

I remember when they did a feedback post once and I specifically mentioned how subskills that don't scale like Storm Orbs are useless. Guess they just forgot teehee

[near leaf]

ITs worse

The tooltip is lying

They scale with the tree

[humble fog]

😭

[near leaf]

Tooltip says otherwise, cause its fun I guess

[mossy coral]

Yeah because everything scales with the tree unless it says specific original skill 🥲

Can't trust tooltips anymore!

What was the other node some guy asked about before, wolf? Raptor?

[winter ivy]

can't wait for the skill to be "fixed" and then not scale with the tree

[cinder moat]

Speaking of tooltips, why can’t I look at tempests damage

[near leaf]

It used to be way more inconsistant

[mossy coral]

Used to yeah

[ornate scroll]

So tsunami is bad/bugged?

[near leaf]

Bugged on Scorp

[sly bobcat]

i've talked to dammitt about this before. alt-text is frequently wrong when it comes to scaling stuff like that

[mossy coral]

Orb is most likely just missing all the code

[sly bobcat]

if the skill text and the alt text conflict, then the skill text is what's correct generally

[ornate scroll]

Ahhh word thanks that stinks was gonna try that

[near leaf]

Alright enough bug hunt for tonight

[mossy coral]

Speaking of stuff that works though, I did not think having idol altars would affect the unlocked idol slots when leveling

[long totem]

Works on self cast quite well.

[ornate scroll]

How the damage is it good?

[long totem]

I'm geared like crap and hitting 30k crits screen wide pretty easily in relatively short order

[ornate scroll]

Wow that sounds fun

I may switch to shammy after I get that staff and mess around

[long totem]

It plays like absolute garbage until you have at least 11-12 skill points in warcry+maelstrom though

[winter ivy]

Tusnami is just bugged on Scorpion (the typhoon node doesnt work for it)

[ornate scroll]

Man that might be a lot of fun if it wasn’t

[long totem]

Yeah would probably be lit af if it worked

[mellow kestrel]

Tsunami has insane multipliers if you get up to 15+ stax

[long totem]

IF

[long totem]

Which is trivial via warcry+lagons slumber tbh

[ornate scroll]

Eye of the storm too so easy constant haste regen and frenzy is so nice

[sly bobcat]

there's a lot of ways to get up to that many stacks

[long totem]

Slick 900% more damage

On 300% ADE

[ornate scroll]

There are idols too with maelstrom something also right?

[long totem]

Eh those are pretty meh

[near leaf]

Shall we corrupt them all ?

[long totem]

Chance to cast every three seconds

So max 3 extra stacks if you manage 100% chance

[crude cosmos]

the answers is always yes

[long totem]

Should I gamble? Yes

[ornate scroll]

Noice

[long totem]

Honestly there's better uses for your idols

[halcyon cipher]

so i have this staff i dropped earlier, but i've only ever really played shark beastmaster and werebear, and am unfamiliar with shaman, anything that can use this? Doesn't need to be meta, it can be extremely J A N K i'll make it work

I was thinking maybe spellquake shaman, or maybe putting avalanche in somewhere

[long totem]

Janked out gathering storm build of some kind

[halcyon cipher]

yea that could do it too

[sly bobcat]

cold upheaval. the skill scales with attunement and gets something like 170% cold pen on the tree if you're using a staff

[halcyon cipher]

thats also a good one

[high stratus]

you can disable speed scaling on it too because that staff is slow af and has no aspd and nor does shaman really

[sly bobcat]

yeah

[mellow kestrel]

awww the increase mana cost is tough

[near leaf]

My best pieces

[sly bobcat]

it's been fun with the explodey axe so far but clear is gonna be attrocious if you don't have the faultlines or high shockwave chance

[near leaf]

None of the helmets came out good

[halcyon cipher]

at least its spell mana cost, can throw in a spellquake as a finisher while doing gathering storm

[mossy coral]

That health sheesh

[high stratus]

was the cast speed scaling on the cast-with-staff gathering storm fixed?

[mellow kestrel]

I was going to say that’s good for the apathy + butchers crown synergy. You basically want a ton of mana regen to get mana on hit to sustain all the procs from avalanche / EQ / upheaval

[halcyon cipher]

oooo butchers crown, forgot about that one

[wispy ivy]

anyone know if skellies are good atm? might reroll but having too much fun with fire crows 🙂

[high stratus]

no they're not, probably not anyway.

Might be useful for Aaron's will golems though

[subtle lodge]

I'm convinced now there is some funny business going on. I restarted my game not even that long ago and I am always back down to like 80 FPS.

[mellow kestrel]

Yes lol. I’m cooking something in my head with it. Haven’t seen anyone try with the insane mana regen corruptions you can get yet

[halcyon cipher]

yea it was a lot of fun with some sentinel builds when it first dropped, had tried it with judgement after we lost volatile reversal for mana sustain

you can kinda run it for an earthquake spammer

[mellow kestrel]

Yea I’m rly hoping to make a proc everything build with it

But you need crazy mana regen

There’s some corruptions on 2h weapons that help a lot

[sly bobcat]

Aaron's death knight build looks good. skellies were passable before and the archers got full conversion on their arrows now so I would guess they're okay

[subtle lodge]

Good by Aarons standards or?

[sly bobcat]

he was up to like 700c before the end of the first day

[subtle lodge]

His builds have always been eh, fun perhaps but never great

[halcyon cipher]

that sounds better
my builds for ages have always been incredibly jank, but fun

my group is making new characters, and because it looks like sentinel shield rush is fixed (spammable online, without it bugging out) I may do a shield rush spammer

[near leaf]

Frostbite Shield Rush

Now you have to

[halcyon cipher]

bring back mordita's?

[near leaf]

Yup

[halcyon cipher]

but rive is just better since it converts to 1000% frostbite chance

[ornate scroll]

im playing his lightning wolves now its a lot of fun & really fast compared to necro

not that im geare great

[subtle lodge]

There is definitely some kind of memory leak going on, how would I go about gathering info and reporting it?

[near leaf]

Are you online or at least not full offline ?

Also do you have mtx pets equipped ?

[subtle lodge]

Full offline, no MTXs on at all

My FPS is definitely decreasing over time and pretty quickly too

[mossy coral]

How do you see your fps?

[subtle lodge]

Over the space of like 2 hours my FPS has halved

[mossy coral]

Or is it just your feel

[subtle lodge]

Steam

I can feel it ofc, but no it's actually halved over the space of like 2 hours

A bit under I think

[near leaf]

Okay, I asked about pets because they clearly tank my fps
If you are able to launch in not full offline, you can still send a bug report from ingame. Thats the best way to do it, because it gather game data and logs

[subtle lodge]

I was getting 150+ and now I am getting 70 sitting in down and it can go as low as 40 when I am fighting monsters in a map

[near leaf]

Otherwise you can send a post in the forum

But not sure about how you could communicate your game logs

[subtle lodge]

Yeah

It might even be an offline specific issue

Not sure

Might try and reinstall the game, maybe that'll change something

[high stratus]

I realise I'm interpreting that overly literally but you need infinite mana for a proc-everything build because when you spec them for it one EQ procs enough avalanche boulders to trigger a bit more than 1 more EQ

so it just starts proccing faster and faster and faster until you run out of mana or enemies.

Maybe you could fine tune it to spend exactly as much mana as a 200+ apathy shaman can sustain but I don't even think the damage would be that good if you did.

[halcyon cipher]

its actually all in your head and you're slowly going insane

[subtle lodge]

cries

[near leaf]

Try verifying 1st

[mossy coral]

Brain lagging

[subtle lodge]

I mean, reinstalling is a pretty easy thing to try

Could also be the build

It does have a lot of procs

Got fire auras proccing, frost claws proccing, ice barrages proccing

But tbf this still shouldn't be happening

[near leaf]

Lets go

[tawdry harbor]

any idea if you could use multiple natural wrath idols to get multiple earthquakes?

[near leaf]

Nope

The cap will stay

[subtle lodge]

Another 104% immunity idol

I dropped one earlier as well for chill immune for minions

[near leaf]

I am so immune 😏

[subtle lodge]

You have a 4% chance to go faster

[civic silo]

https://tenor.com/view/armadillo-beast-creature-animal-immune-gif-12836543410534091408

[void depot]

folks, after the changes does the bear still cast earthquake if i'm out of mana? What happens if he tries and i'm oom?

[subtle lodge]

The bear uses your mana?

If he does in fact use your mana and you don't have enough, nothing would happen I'd imagine

[void depot]

I thought it did? In this patch anyhow

[subtle lodge]

I don't know, I was genuinely asking

Never played or looking into the build

Does seem odd for a minion to use the players mana though

[void depot]

mhm

i'm trying to follow maxroll's beastmaster levelling guide, but i'll be honest this feels really scuffed compared to their other guides i might have to reset and just freestyle it somehow

[halcyon cipher]

definitely a play

ever played shark beastmaster?

[void depot]

i was not aware that that was an option

[halcyon cipher]

theres lots of options, you just gotta look

[void depot]

i mean i do see a lot of builds, but not many include levelling, at least not in the places i've found...

maxroll hadn't led me astray before, but yeah, i feel like this guide was made looking at damage spreadsheets and not playing the actual videogame 😭

[halcyon cipher]

ive always used lastepochtools, not a fan of maxroll, personally

[subtle lodge]

Maxroll is fine, especially if someone really needs hand holding

But even if you don't need that their builds are decent

I don't get why people put so much stock in their tier lists though, or any tier list for that matter

You see it a lot of PoE aswell

[ornate scroll]

damn just got a nice xylem too bad its not even Lp1 dang

[subtle lodge]

People just use the top most played builds on PoE ninja or whatever the streamers are playing

[halcyon cipher]

money

whatever gets views

[verbal quartz]

does frog idol is bug or intent? also we need 3 corrupt and 1 non-corrupt of it, right?

[mossy coral]

Primalist is scuffed, if you get a Laup relic you can play Thorn totem and steamroll campaign and to monos, even to probably 200c with minimum gear

[subtle lodge]

That doesn't explain why people put so much faith in them

[mossy coral]

It's a bug, it will be fixed this week, probably like friday

[wise leaf]

Primalist leveling is pretty scuffed in general

[halcyon cipher]

idk parry, people are weird, let them be weird

[verbal quartz]

oops

[halcyon cipher]

also could just be diablo players

[mossy coral]

(If you're thinking of having 2 of those idols, 1 corrupted and 1 not corrupted cause that's a bug)

[wise leaf]

Scorp nova is great for leveling if you don't mind a high interaction build.... except that swipe is bugged

[halcyon cipher]

everything is bugged

thats the fun of each season, which skill is broken this time around

[void depot]

I feel like it's not of you're shaman, totems feel really strong, it's just that I don't wanna do that, I wanna play with my animal companions from the start

[verbal quartz]

thx mate

[halcyon cipher]

LMAO

[void depot]

I understand I'm kinda making things dificult for myself but I'll just tough it out I guess

[mossy coral]

Abuste it while you can 😉

[verbal quartz]

was about thinking to made an alt character, but i guess not 😄

[void depot]

What is bugged on swipe?

[subtle lodge]

Only leveled one up once but woof leveling seemed pretty okay

[mossy coral]

Resetting companion ability, also I think its effects on your 2nd swing

[wise leaf]

All non-ailment on hit effects only work on the forehand/mainhand attack animation

[void depot]

While that does suck, it only affects dual wielding builds right?

[wise leaf]

So companion ability trigger, health/mana gain, spirit wolves and aspect of the panther stacks all don't trigger 1/2 the time

Nope, i said forehand/mainhand

[mossy coral]

What I don't get is how a animation reword can brick the whole skill

[wise leaf]

Forehand is right to left on single weapon

[wise leaf]

Because the other animation is a different skill under the hood

[void depot]

Jesus

I'm assuming this has been reported already

[halcyon cipher]

depends on how long it takes to get fixed even if it does get reported

[wise leaf]

I suspect there is some giga jank under the hood with swipe that they decided to fudge around instead of fix when they did the anim rework

[halcyon cipher]

im still waiting for a smite descend fix, which apparently has been bugged for 8 months

[wise leaf]

Afaik fix is in QA testing atm

[long totem]

Via shatter or just bog standard totem build?

[wise leaf]

They definitely know about it

[void depot]

Fair enough fair enough

[wise leaf]

But yeah

Absolutely kneecaps 80% of bm builds

[void depot]

I'll see if I can find any beast master levelling VODs or something to see what people have been doing then I guess

[near leaf]

@shut laurel This is actually pretty insane
By itself it double my armor

[mossy coral]

Standard full thorn totem + storm totem build, mega easy and thorn totem is pretty strong now

[halcyon cipher]

is EHG at least somewhat faster about fixing bugged skills now?

i still remember smelters wrath

[wise leaf]

Ahahahaha

[mossy coral]

I would say no, unless its something already in the pipeline

[halcyon cipher]

figures

[wise leaf]

Or there is sufficient uproar about it when they're actually looking hard for bugs

If it's just a few reports it gets nowhere

:/

[mossy coral]

I think they look more on reddit than from their in game report tool

Or it will get more attention at least

If someone were to say swipe is completely broken on reddit they might fix it this week

[wise leaf]

I mena

I know a fix is being worked on

Idk if there's anything that can be done to make it faster from us

[halcyon cipher]

based on ehg speed, we'll know in about a year

[wise leaf]

But it's incredibly scuffed that it was released in this state without the ability to nigh instantly hotfix it

[subtle lodge]

It wont be that quick, c'mon

[halcyon cipher]

but... but, they have krafton money now, surely that means they'll go faster right?

[wise leaf]

But it's also crazy that they gave swipe an animation rework

[halcyon cipher]

thats gotta be the krafton money

updated visuals, but we broke the skill in the process

[wise leaf]

But not remove the stupid unaffected by weapon range crap

[long totem]

(and kept the 'no scaling on weapon length' clause)

Jinx

[wise leaf]

Getting real sick of everything primalist gets/keeps being just

[mossy coral]

Jeez I hope they just revert the enemy hitbox makes you slow, because melee and omenwindows is insaaaane to go down to -50% movement speed

[wise leaf]

Purposefully clunky

[halcyon cipher]

but dont you miss tempest strike?

the OLD tempest strike

[wise leaf]

They just HAVE to monkey paw evetything

[mossy coral]

YEEEEESSSSSSS, I want it back so badly, I even want ice thorns

[near leaf]

Doesnt scale with AS
Random shitty proccs

Lovely

[wise leaf]

Tsunami every 5 stacks when the 2 most common stack building mechanics max out at 4

WHY

It's just so goddamn dumb

[mossy coral]

Old TS? At least it can deal damage, surely with all these affixes and +100 spell damage for tempest strike and like 35 spell points you can get now instead of 25

Can't be too broken Cookbook, they could've limited it 3 times per 10 seconds as well xdd

[halcyon cipher]

i wanna use that new alluvion

mmm tsunami every sec

[winter ivy]

Isn't it actually just every 5 casts (from any source)? I recall being able to activate it with only one stack

[mossy coral]

I'd go Volca sword, TS gaming

[halcyon cipher]

i love the change to volcanus, tried to run it, forgot i was playing rive, and a sword a friend found for me at lvl 24 ended up being better than it

that corrupted sword had like 180 melee damage because corruptions are stupid

and had it till 80

it had double flat t5 prefixes, sealed flat t5, and corrupted flat t7

it was disgusting for rive

[mossy coral]

I did a paladin flame burst with that sword to deal damage and proc more flamebursts, was every or every other hit and it was nice. Got buffed this season since it's 30% now instead of 15%

[long totem]

Because **** you and the horse (bear) you rode in on apparently

I mean in actual play it's not that bad but it is irksome

[halcyon cipher]

im addicted to corrupting gear, i was already addicted to vaal orbing everything in sight on poe2, now we have it here too

while leveling i corrupt ALL of my gear the moment the fp runs out

[long totem]

Corrupts honestly make 0 LP uniques fun again

Good change there

[halcyon cipher]

YES

or you can nemesis them first, and then corrupt

[mossy coral]

Bricked uniques can be usable, stash everything!

[halcyon cipher]

if you nemesis first and then corrupt, you get fun little things for leveling like this

[long totem]

Also maxing set items makes them a lot more interesting tbh

[wise leaf]

It's every 5 stacks gained

[mellow kestrel]

NO FUN SIR

[wise leaf]

Not every 5 stacks you have

So you can gain 5 stacks over a minute

[long totem]

Yeah which is a minor saving grace I guess

[wise leaf]

And it'll proc on the 5th one

[long totem]

I swear the hit box for tsunami is bugged somehow though

Seems like the animation just stops scaling at some point and the waves just sit in the ground

Might just be mobs immune on spawn tho, can't tell

[mossy coral]

The animation is larger than the hitbox funnily enough

[long totem]

Yeah that tracks -_-

It really does feel good damage wise tho

1200 more damage will do that I suppose

Need to get better gear to see how this goes

[elfin plover]

Hey guys is there somewhere better than maxroll for build guide?

[sly bobcat]

corruptions during campaign are so silly. I had a corrupted amulet from the first omen window I did that had the +1 all skills base type and +1 all skills corrupted affix

I rocked Nihilis-at-Home starting from level 10

[near leaf]

https://youtu.be/_GOeDz0Nj24

Tsunami does indeed get big

[halcyon cipher]

yup, one of my group members had the same

buildcraft is a bit different for me since i run a group of 4

[quasi ferry]

Someone asked it before but could not see a direct answer:
Tusk warrior gives bleed chance and phys pen for bleed when under effects of Aspect of the Boar, when you take Embodiment, will squirrels (as they are companions) also get this nodes effect, or only base aspect effect (and increases)?

[near leaf]

They ll get bleed chance and pen

[quasi ferry]

Thx

[patent dock]

Without all that useless clothes to hold back the wave

[mossy coral]

Primalist Beach 2026

[near leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/but-i’m-not-original-gif-9429597353331516825

[wise root]

what's the best primalist leveling spec and what's a real fun endgame build that doesn't require level 80+ to come online?

[long totem]

Eh tsunami takes off pretty good around 35

Real answer, thorn totem+storm totem

[wise leaf]

Wish i could say scorp nova

It does take off pretty quickly

It does absolutely blitz through campaign and early monos

And it has basically 0 gear requirement

[long totem]

Seems weird that they haven't put swipe in the S4 known issues... Seems like that channel just kinda stopped being used tbh

[mossy coral]

I think it was prio bugs at the start of the season

[long totem]

Ah maybe, thought it was tracking new stuff

[wise leaf]

It was listed in that

But then they got rid of the channel ._.

[mossy coral]

Pretty funny corruption

[near leaf]

Throwing Dmg on primalist set
Hp regen and hp drain

[mossy coral]

Actually I thought they said that stuff like this couldn't happen?

[near leaf]

[mossy coral]

Well tbf it's not locked to primalist, but the regen / degen is a silly outcome

EHG really should lower the level of items, I got a really good shield that would be perfect for me leveling but can't wear it until lvl 82, won't need it by then

[near leaf]

They should increase the amount of FP

For some crafts you have to jump through so many hoops

[sly bobcat]

a really rare rune that refunds FP would be cool

[earnest junco]

I like corrupting magic items to use with that one spear.
Sealed exalted affixes don't have level requirements

[near leaf]

Meh
I like the "when it's over, it's over"

[sly bobcat]

I do wish there was a lot less variance in FP costs though

losing like 28 FP at once is brutal

[halcyon cipher]

Imagine they increase the fp, but then secretly increase the bad luck for crafting, to make you happier

[mossy coral]

1000%, it's already so hard to craft okay stats with a sealed/set affix even

[near leaf]

But let me
Havoc > sealed >add> remove > add > get to T5 > havoc again

[mossy coral]

Finding a perfect item with 44FP to go down to 25 is insane

Aka useless

[halcyon cipher]

Happens constantly to one of my group members, his luck is SO BAD he gifts the items to us to craft for him

[near leaf]

Refine > rune (not Glyph because that sucks) to change the base

[sly bobcat]

i kinda get why they have the base-change on a glyph so you have a limited number of attempts at it

[mossy coral]

Maybe having glyph of hope on other glyphs would be giga nice

[halcyon cipher]

Same friend had a 60fp exalt and bricked it in 4 crafts

[sly bobcat]

i've been there before

[near leaf]

You already are limited by FP

[mossy coral]

Happened to me yesterday, logged off after

[near leaf]

If ever you have any left after 1or 2 step

[sly bobcat]

yeah but limiting by glyph instead is even more strict. it's possible that's the kind of limitation they want

alternatively, it's just a remnant of the fact that they reused glyph of envy for it

[near leaf]

My money is on that one

[sly bobcat]

it's the more likely scenario, but it could have been a happy coincidence from a design outlook

[hollow nest]

Hello! How was frogs from Anurok are nerfed? Can i kill Uber Abby with frogs?

[near leaf]

I think what I hate the most is the rune of removal

[mossy coral]

Meanwhile mr strimmer with 9FP got to 7FP when he refined his item, glyph of chaos to 4FP t4-t5 😭

[sly bobcat]

rune of removal is always a 75% chance to hit the thing you don't want to remove

[near leaf]

1/4 > straight in the t7

[mossy coral]

YEP

[halcyon cipher]

Naaa its gotta be 90%

[near leaf]

At least the crafting session doesn't take long

[sly bobcat]

TRU

[halcyon cipher]

Its got the xcom 99% accuracy dilemma

[mossy coral]

Used removal on 4 t7 items and it removed it on all 3

[sly bobcat]

rune of removal says "Brick item on first try"

[near leaf]

Click > brick > fukoff

[sly bobcat]

thanks RoR

[sly bobcat]

sorry to derail primalist chat, but yeah frogs were nerfed. they're still very good though

[halcyon cipher]

On the flipside, thanks to corruptions ive gotten like 5 double T7 items this season, even my first triple T6,

[near leaf]

They lost a big of dmg, can't say for sure how much

They are mostly fine though

[mossy coral]

Someone said they weren't uber viable anymore

[near leaf]

Not sure if they were good for Uber before

[mossy coral]

But ofc they were when you had 21 frogs with the bug

[elfin plover]

which primalist build is uber viable

[halcyon cipher]

Yea i constantly see people ingame chat talk about frogs and a lot of people still run them

[sly bobcat]

they're funny

the fact that they're also good is bonus

[mossy coral]

Someone said they were with investment, after nerf it was like 7 min uber abby

[near leaf]

Bear EQ, crows, Saber are the first that come to mind

[mossy coral]

Was either 7 min or 21, don't remember

[sly bobcat]

crit saber specifically. bleed saber is gonna be rough

[halcyon cipher]

Bee's has always been a fun build, when you can get up to 200 bee's on rogue, and with the new bee items, i'm surprised i havent seen any bee builds made

[near leaf]

Note that rn crows and saber suffer from the Swipe bug

[mossy coral]

Bear should too no?

[sly bobcat]

bear doesn't care as much

[halcyon cipher]

Wouldnt its animation be different cause bear

[near leaf]

I have seen some Hungering Souls shenanigans with bees

[mossy coral]

Or is it warcry it reset the EQ

[halcyon cipher]

I can imagine, ive seen a few mage bee's

I want to try leapquake werebear again with the new relic

[crude cosmos]

Hey guys, other than weapon and passive tree, are there any major sources of flat dmanage for spriggan form?

[near leaf]

Turn out "more dmg per minion" combine with bees is big

[near leaf]

Lagon Stacks from Tempest Strike

[halcyon cipher]

I think boots and a ring? I cant remember forsure

[sly bobcat]

self ignite belt is one, order of lagon or w/e the buff is called

oh wait self ignite belt is only spell damage for necro/fire spells right

[mossy coral]

I think vale spirit spriggan form could be

[hollow nest]

So i can do it but it can be struggled

[halcyon cipher]

Theres weaver humble idols that give up to 5 flat of any damage type +% of that damage

[near leaf]

Wait summon Spriggan or Spriggan Form?

[mossy coral]

He said form!

[near leaf]

...

[crude cosmos]

Spriggan form. I am revisiting spirit thorns but it’s been so long I’ve forgot the sources of flat

[deft kiln]

Managed to survive those triple omens

[near leaf]

Weapon, idols

[sly bobcat]

you can still get lagon stacks with the on-hit while transformed tempests right? or is that from melee attacks while transformed

[deft kiln]

Totems did everything lol

Power of nature > melee

[near leaf]

Melee

[sly bobcat]

ah

[mossy coral]

Thorn totem absolutely shreds omens fr fr

[near leaf]

That node is so bad

[sly bobcat]

Ghazi has been playing frogs. you could look at whatever his build is. I think he writes for maxroll

[near leaf]

67

[halcyon cipher]

Omens are a cinch unless A, it summons the giant worm that spits poison or B, it summons one of the bird knight dudes and i have no idea what its doing but it hits like a truck

[sly bobcat]

of course it is. it's on tempest strike

[halcyon cipher]

I did my first omen champions, very fun

[elfin plover]

got a build guide?

currently playing frog build but if i get told its not worth for the long run to even get the chance to beat uby aberoth i will change x)

[mossy coral]

The woven echo? It's soooo good

[sly bobcat]

there's a champion echo at the end of an omen echo chain that's pretty brutal

[near leaf]

Frogs have more chance to do Uber than Spriggan Form spirit thorns

Sorry Edd

[sly bobcat]

yeah but hear me out, spriggan form machine gun goes pewpewpew

[near leaf]

😎

[near leaf]

I am sold already

I'll try a crit version with the new boots too

[sly bobcat]

my brother is visiting next week. maybe I'll convince him to bring his laptop and we can actually start our co-op characters

[mossy coral]

I don't sorry, with 192 attunement you have 16 extra hits with every cast, got buffed and I think it should be good. Can't guarantee it's good, just saying I think it could do it

[sly bobcat]

i went through all that trouble coming up with a support spriggan form build

and we still haven't played

[near leaf]

Bleed Thorn Shield?

[sly bobcat]

yeah

stacking healing effectiveness everywhere you can for the EB spam you're doing at the same time

[crude cosmos]

All good 🙂 I’m here for the pew pew not the uber

[sly bobcat]

I was thinking of using the vale spirit relic to autogenerate them and have basically a CD entangling roots for the flat spell damage buff and phys res shred

[near leaf]

Careful not to stack too much Att

[sly bobcat]

support spriggan companion for flat spell damage, passive healing, and defense. dunno if that's the play but it was what I thought

[near leaf]

Otherwise you will have to wait a long time

[sly bobcat]

yeah you don't really need a ton anyway

[near leaf]

So imagine

Just for a minute

This node is more dmg per spirit vale

[sly bobcat]

ya

[near leaf]

Numbers to be adjusted ofc

[mossy coral]

That would be amazing

[near leaf]

Well, ER is so shiit it could take 120% More Dmg per spirit and become just good

[sly bobcat]

you know it's funny, that node is basically the only thing that makes ER usable from a damage perspective right now. and it's still bad

[mossy coral]

It's just weird, why would you want to have a DoT spell on a hit form

[sly bobcat]

bear roots has been way power crept

[near leaf]

Remember

[sly bobcat]

you can technically cast thorns fast enough to keep roots up permanently

[near leaf]

Cold Dot Werebear

[thin axle]

Does anybody have a way to lvl easy with primalist i feel always so wrak 🙁

Weak

[near leaf]

Thorn Totems or wolves if you get the amulet early

[mossy coral]

Well they can't overlap anyway and the damage roots have is terrible

[near leaf]

Then idk what mastery you want later but if you don't mind respeccing, Shaman Storm Totem is super smooth

[sly bobcat]

yeah you have to cast at a pretty exact speed to keep it up permanently without overlapping

[marble cypress]

I actually always found Primalist pretty comfortable to level

[near leaf]

Just use totems to get spirits

[near leaf]

Oo
Without twink gear I find it a bit rough. Depend on the luck of the run

[marble cypress]

Wait, legit?

[near leaf]

This season was awful until lvl 30-35

[sly bobcat]

yeah without getting lucky primalist is always pretty slow

[near leaf]

Maybe it's because I am comparing it to Sentinel

[sly bobcat]

nah it's the slowest

[marble cypress]

I forgot what I ran 30-35. I was going Gathering Storm with Shout early on for easy clear. Then I hit up EQ/Maelstrom

Maybe you guys are suffering a skill issue

It happens to other, not me. No shame tho

[sly bobcat]

it's not really that hard, just really slow compared to everythign else

[near leaf]

I think I never gave GS a proper try in lvling

[marble cypress]

Just leap everywhere

[mossy coral]

I think upheaval totem fury leap is okay until you can get something better, needs 5 points in both to start working though and that's like lvl.. 13?

[marble cypress]

I just lept across the maps

[sly bobcat]

it's not the movespeed thing. your damage is just lower than the other classes. it takes longer to kill things on average unless you get lucky with your drops

[marble cypress]

I don't recall it being that different

Maybe a bit here and there

[sly bobcat]

it's pretty different

[marble cypress]

Toss on a podcast and vibe it out, IDK

[mossy coral]

I think easiest is lightning wolves from the beginning, not super fun imo but you can just run

[marble cypress]

Just get EQ and use Storm Stacks to help manage your mana

[fast oracle]

Druid needs buff , Beast and Shammy are doing much more dmg

[sly bobcat]

shaman and druid both need reworks

[marble cypress]

Yeah, bring back old Tempest Strike

[sly bobcat]

only if it doesn't have the stupid attack speed converts to damage pen

[mossy coral]

I just realized, I made a new character on legacy and I didn't get the new quest

With the crafting tutorial and stuff

Or is that later in the campaign after Heorot?

[sly bobcat]

it's in act 1

[thin axle]

Will try

[halcyon cipher]

yea it randomly popped up on my map one time

was fun

anyone else here that plays cof and only cof, ever wonder if they were MG, if the gear they have in their storage would be worth millions?

[sly bobcat]

it has crossed my mind once or twice, but i never interact with MG so the idea fades pretty quick

i play trade in PoE already so LE and grim dawn are my self-found games

maybe i'll try out the maxroll upheaval build

[patent dock]

Ooh, might be neat

and then the imprint hit

[sly bobcat]

Slam into corrupt

Do it

Wait. Phys res isn't maxed

Trash it

[hollow nest]

Fr can i kill Uber Aberroth with frogs currently

or not

[mossy coral]

Nothing to see here, your normal class gear for a acolyte yep yep yep

[long totem]

Maybe, lot harder than last season but if you gear hard enough prolly

[hollow nest]

So what about minions in S4? How they're feeling themself

Idk i see abom in ladder

[long totem]

Necro still has really strong minion tech, there's definitely some BM that should be able to Uber Abby with minions I think

[winter ivy]

Minion Primalist builds are hurtin a bit because of the Swipe bug

[elfin plover]

what is the swipe bug

[sly bobcat]

every other swipe doesn't trigger effects. it does on-hits but not things like aspect of the panther or the companion ability use trigger

[karmic bison]

Well thats unfortunate. Luckily eq wearbear still smashes with ez

[elfin plover]

can someone explain what glyph of envy does i cant understand with the description

[mossy coral]

When upgrading a affix you change the item to another base, lets say you have mana regen ring, when upgrading you get a random ring base such as 18% elemental resistance one

[elfin plover]

Ohhhhh ok nice

thanks

[mellow kestrel]

Can confirm, butchers crown + apathy on amulet and 353% mana regen at the moment can sustain the mana for the procs from aftershocks proccing avalanche, which proc upheaval, which proc earthquake when ur at 30 storm stacks

And I’m using extremely unoptimal gear on a legacy char

200 Cr and damage was fine. But like I said, very not the right gear on

And it’s just a continuous chain of procs going off, especially from aftershock idols / avalanche idol

Oh lol aftershocks when using the new lightning EQ idol dont get a lightning tag. Just EQ ://

Nice

[polar zealot]

anyone running the bugged anurok with the 4 idols?

[candid topaz]

People like you are going to ruin the fun for everyone lol

[wise leaf]

...still no fix for swipe/tsunami...

[sly bobcat]

soonTM

how common is the locust spear? i've never actually farmed it out

[wise leaf]

Common, no reroll chance

[sly bobcat]

Right on

Figured I would try out a different take on upheaval before rolling a warlock

[patent dock]

Aftershock tags just never update in the tooltip, it shouldn't functionally affect anything

[mellow kestrel]

Really? Ok

Hope so

[long totem]

Grasp of the blood mage is really good defensive tech, my goodness

Damage smearing really makes those greater omen windows manageable, except the lag ofc

[sly bobcat]

yeah that effect is on the lich tree too. insanely strong for surviving burst damage as long as you've got the healing to back it up

[stoic sand]

I asked Mike about this the other day, he said it does though it visually doesn't get the tag on the skill.

Are you scaling attunement or strength for your build, I just started playing around with the idol too.

[indigo hamlet]

anyone know what happen to the land before idol ? equipping 3 and my frog number from 8 to 4

[sly bobcat]

isn't the tech that the extras need to be corrupted?

[indigo hamlet]

oh yeah it work now when i corrupt it

[mellow kestrel]

Oh ok cool. I was just doing testing with butchers crown and apathy on amulet to see the mana sustain. It’s pretty fun but could get good damage

Idk if we have a good build yet for the lightning EQ/ upheaval

Couldn’t *

Anyone doing aftershock build?

[sly bobcat]

i'm working on swapping over to one

[tranquil lintel]

I'm leveling a character to try aftershocks. What's your idea @sly bobcat

[sly bobcat]

upheaval aftershocks. i'm already doing an upheaval build with the explode axe. aftershocks are probably just better

[mellow kestrel]

Ohh cool. Using bear form?

[crisp swan]

small question, did they nerfed Spriggan Form so I can't get storm stacks in it?

nvm, seems I was just extremely unlucky with the procs from avalanche

[sly bobcat]

nope, BM

just pounding away with no-AS scaling upheaval. the aftershock version is probably better because you're able to scale AS

[raw elm]

what stacking this Idol do? is it add total chance to proce only 1 stack of maelstorm or each Idol have its chance to proc on its own so multiple stack of mael storm can proc at the same time?

[near leaf]

Let hope we see a hotfix today

[round tundra]

any frog players I only have 4 frogs out and I have the helmet and the idol is because i dont have 100 str/dex for exemplar?

[wise leaf]

post a screenshot of your idol board?

[near leaf]

Are you online?

[round tundra]

yeah ill hop on now

i was moving stuff around trying to get it to work

[wise leaf]

what does your max companions stat say in character sheet?

it's at the bottom right of the other tab

if i recall

[round tundra]

ok i found it.. says 6

Shouldn't it be higher with the helm and the idols? or does it have something to do with the board not being correct?

[near leaf]

What's your username?

[round tundra]

snapshaw34

[vapid canopy]

I hope they will fix earthquake mtx today

Looks so janky with the purple lines

[near leaf]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/snapshaw34/character/snapcrows

Is that you?

[round tundra]

yes

[near leaf]

How many max companion do you get with 1 land before idol?

[round tundra]

if i remove one still says 6

[near leaf]

Oo

Is it possible they are bricked because they are corrupted?

Do you have a non corrupted one?

[round tundra]

at the moment no might just have to go farm one and see what happens.. doesn't it say something on the corrupted items when they brick?

i mean makes sense though removed both still at 6 so obviously its something

[near leaf]

Weird

Try without altar

[round tundra]

still 6

[near leaf]

Oo

[tardy frost]

I distinctly remember people complaining that lands before kept giving stacking max companions as long as it was corrupted as that makes it not unique anymore, looks like they stealth fixed it to be bugged the other way around

or I guess we can say that it's just "fixed" since a legendary Land before cannot be "your only equipped unique idol" per RAW

as it's not unique

[tribal folio]

Just tested it, you are indeed correct! Taking Jormun's wrath does not cause buff from toxic companion for wolfs to become frostbite. It only affects bleed inflicted by the warcry itself

[proud grotto]

looked at the build itself, with just one land before, your companion count should really be at 10, 11 companions when you have 100 combined strength & dexterity via exemplar.
try removing one of the two lands before in it's entirety? (given the vagueness of your wording.)
as if more than one unique (including another copy of itself regardless as described in the items alt text.) is equipped, it will cancel out the extra max companion bonus.

here is what it should really be as an example to show. @round tundra
(Check the minion menu)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqwgkZD2

[unkempt thistle]

Beastmaster, Level 86

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (64) / Druid (10)

General:

▸ Health: 1,568, Regen: 81.02/s
▸ Mana: 215.53, Regen: 8.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 36%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 53 Str / 25 Dex / 18 Int / 14 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 31% / 86% / 70% / 126% / 29% / 28% / 35%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 439
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (202)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (911)

Used skills:

Summon Wolf / Summon Bear / Summon Frenzy Totem / Fury Leap / Summon Storm Crows

[proud grotto]

p.s. yes I opened it in the build planner to make sure things were working alright.

[round tundra]

still 6

[tardy frost]

yea as I said they might have fixed it to work as RAW and a corrupted land before with another affix doesn't count itself as a unique

try checking it on a legacy character if you have one

with a non corrupted land before

cause I think that I deleted all my legacy primalists

[proud grotto]

Explain this then? (Context is in the ios screenshot.)

one moment

Works fine to me.

[round tundra]

haha yeah can't figure it out just gonna switch back to crows i guess or wait till i get another non corrupted idol

[subtle lodge]

Reinstalling the game seems to have fixed me losing performance over time I think

Only been playing for about 30min but even after 30min it was noticeably worse last night

On another completely unrelated note, I need to stop blindly picking up shrines XD

The Harvest Shrine nukes my ward because it causes me to leech HP

[timid dragon]

were you only testing with 1 ?

[mortal elbow]

if u are desperate to get ur corupted land before to work without having a 2. one equip ANY other unique idol but a needle ( didnt test singularity yet)

[proud grotto]

You didn't have any cosmetic pets equipped did you?

Context: there is still the issue that remains unresolved (isolated to the thread strider pet.) where playing the game for prolonged periods of time with cosmetic pets equipped tanks game performance overall until either resulting in very bad Frames per second, or just disconnects the game & kicks one back to the menu.

[timid dragon]

are u playing it ?

[mortal elbow]

frogs ? yes

[timid dragon]

and the multiple corrupted + non corrupted still works for the 2x2?

[subtle lodge]

No MTX's what so ever

[mortal elbow]

if u have only one Unique idol it works, corupted idols cout as legendary

[timid dragon]

o

how many frogs are you at

[subtle lodge]

I am Full Offline though which may or may not have anything to do with it, or just a faulty update

In any case a clean install seems to have worked

[mortal elbow]

u can have 23 max companions with how land before works rn

[timid dragon]

wasnt the build already like easily S tier with like the previous number being 11 or something ?

xd

[mortal elbow]

u had 9 before, but u lose all ur flat dmg idols so its not THAT much of an increase as people think, but its better yea

[timid dragon]

o true

[mortal elbow]

also cause idols got alot stronger this season

[timid dragon]

does this work btw

like the increases towards more companion

[mortal elbow]

not on uniques/legendarys

[timid dragon]

ah okay

ty

[mortal elbow]

and i loved playing the armor bord

[timid dragon]

i was going to swap to the build so glad to confirm

[mortal elbow]

it gave me 6k armor im not sad when they fix frogs

[timid dragon]

wym

[mortal elbow]

x strenght

[timid dragon]

oh that one

[mortal elbow]

did go down from 16k to 11k after swaping to a bord that fit

[timid dragon]

what are you on now

[timid dragon]

if 2x2s taking up so many slots

is there anything rlly to care about

(stats on the altar)

[mortal elbow]

on that bord yes u can use the middle one for an omen idol

thats what im aiming for to fit in the middle

[timid dragon]

whats even the difference of omen idols vs regular corrupted ones

[subtle lodge]

3% of regen seems pretty underwhelming

Omens can roll stats from bigger idols I think

[timid dragon]

oh yeah i see now

dang

[mortal elbow]

thats 20 ward per second with bad gloves for me so its fine

[subtle lodge]

That's not shabby

[mortal elbow]

if u want something else there are different things

[subtle lodge]

They do say the best defence is a good offence

[mortal elbow]

if u play normal sure

[subtle lodge]

Even in HC it's true to an extent ofc

[mortal elbow]

if u have 21 froggs u go a bit more on the defensive side in hc xD

[subtle lodge]

For sure

[mortal elbow]

did that mit 9 as well tho

even more xD

[timid dragon]

what rings do u use pre red rings

[mortal elbow]

well xD

[timid dragon]

what even is that

xd

[timid dragon]

that new ?

never seen it before

[mortal elbow]

new

[timid dragon]

pretty sick ngl

is capping res not an issue for u ?

[subtle lodge]

Capping res in general is pretty easy I find

[mortal elbow]

not yet

[subtle lodge]

And it's not thaaat important compared to other ARPGs

[mortal elbow]

still using 3 small idols for res cause i dont have the perfect omen idol

[timid dragon]

gotcha

well this is going to make build swapping rough

xd

[mortal elbow]

also the set is goated, im kinda aiming for one of those

but then i have to say bye bye to cleaver solution

[subtle lodge]

@near leaf Do you think the game would let me launch Full Online with Special K launcher? I wanted to compare performance online vs offline

[timid dragon]

i thought build uses this tho

[subtle lodge]

In HC Cleaver is preferable

Can go max block then

[timid dragon]

oh hes hc?

[subtle lodge]

Ye

[mortal elbow]

i do think the sword is stronger with the set tho, having ur double t7 and croupted all atributes +50% seems insanely big

[timid dragon]

oops

[mortal elbow]

still playing the weaver shield tho

[mortal elbow]

how does he know °_°

[raw elm]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BM6LPL75

[unkempt thistle]

Druid, Level 77

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (21) / Shaman (15) / Druid (34)

General:

▸ Health: 1,730, Regen: 67.48/s
▸ Mana: 325.07, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 3 Dex / 8 Int / 50 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 66% / 61% / 36% / 38% / 136% / 131%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 386
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (181)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,065)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 59%

Used skills:

Werebear Form / Maelstrom / Warcry / Gathering Storm / Tornado

[timid dragon]

hes a knower

[mortal elbow]

anyway soon lv 100

[timid dragon]

appreciate the help

[mortal elbow]

i wonder if i will use red rings in the future or craft t7 set afix on other rings

or 2 of the sets on t7 and double t7 statts

[near leaf]

Idk what special K launcher is

[subtle lodge]

Fair enough, it a launch you can use for just about anything. Simulating HDR on games that don't have it, changing DLSS profiles seamlessly, maticulously tracking every kind of performance metric you can think of XD

It's referred to as the Swiss army knife of gaming

I'll give it a shot xD

Performance seems to be the same, I was kind of expecting online to preform a bit better as I assumed the CPU load would be less

That's an odd little thing, when I stand next to a door leading to the next area the FPS my CPU is pushing shoots to 500+

Damn XD

The anticipation for the load screen is strong apparently

[timid dragon]

😋

[iron jetty]

What is overall tankier and stronger out of abom Necro and frog BM

[mortal elbow]

in what i have seen u can play frog alot tankier

[iron jetty]

The abom setup is annoying I'm looking to reroll lol

[timid dragon]

btw lukas what corruption u at

[mortal elbow]

450

[timid dragon]

how long does harbinger take for u at that point

[mortal elbow]

last season i did play 1800 on softcore

[iron jetty]

I hate doing thr skill spec swap every time I go visit bazar

[mortal elbow]

about 10 seconds give or take

[timid dragon]

alr ty

[iron jetty]

How vital is 2 red rings for frogs? I see people on ladder using those. For abom not many use that at similar corr levels

[mortal elbow]

they are a bit tankier and less dmg if u dont get lp 2

[iron jetty]

Oh I doubt I'll be getting any

Michless lp2 lol

[signal thorn]

I was half contemplating doing a reflect/thorns build this season (I hadn’t done it before and the idea of monsters hitting me and just dying was sort of appealing), but I saw Thicket of Blinding Light got a nerf this season. Are reflect/thorn builds still viable for high (1000~) corruption, or did that nerf kind of kill it?

I read that the damage falloff from thicket makes it practically useless beyond 4m or something

[prisma moat]

hey does reflect shaman got nerfed badly?

[high stratus]

flat reflect values got nerfed in a lot of places & the chest piece itself has a shorter range and damage falloff so enemies only take big damage when they're on top of you

[near leaf]

The issue was mobs would look at you from across the ocean and die

I think that with the new corruption you can reach similar amount of dmg

[raw elm]

is there any tool to calculate stormbolt crit chance? (outside of manually do it)

[near leaf]

Does excel count?

[raw elm]

you're talking about something made by someone name moonhun or something right?