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well actually blood mage is good defensively too in another way
planning to maybe slot in an exalted ring with the other part of the set affix to keep some value on legends entwined
also this is nice
could get capped with perfect rolls
Any successes on bee front? How it feels to run with them?
What other part of the set?
The Weaver set?
That means possibly no red ring
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BakyN699 yeah red ring is good 100% but I wonder if getting 100% armor to dots (especially with how the omens fights are going...) is maybe more dmg reduction
Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4
Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (21) / Shaman (8) / Druid (59)
āø Health: 4,869, Regen: 1,057.76/s
āø Mana: 316.21, Regen: 0/s
āø Attributes: 226 Str / 31 Dex / 226 Int / 71 Att / 31 Vit
āø Resistances: 58% / 82% / 82% / 76% / 90% / 63% / 57%
āø Endurance: 39%, Threshold: 2,004
āø Dodge Chance: 7% (195)
āø Armor Mitigation: 79% (11,734)
āø Crit Avoidance: 101%
don't think losing skill point is that bad so either way is good
I thought that was your actual character
Those exalted were too good š
I see you went cold totems aswell
The Phys/psn explosion was too bright for me
also that lmao
How often do you get Swipe totems?
the upheaval lightning version looks cool but my eyes might bleed from extended period of use
often enough on bosses, I don't think getting shred nodes on swipe is worth it since I apply 100+ from the shatter anyway
Yup,
totems surprisingly are shredding a fair bit
Also with 1/2 Swipe being bugged...
if you weave in warcry they spawn and apply it on top
also experimenting with the spirit wolf node rn
Insane Cleaver you got here
Lol
i press it sometimes
I have found a single Weaver set or last bear, it's kinda crazy
this is my turtle inventory, got two laup's with lp3, one with lp4, I'm trying to get 2 on the boots now and yea my cleaver is more than enough for a while I just have leftovers
also have 3 lp1 entwined but I'm waiting for rings to change to str and then I will corrupt the batch
@shut laurel Can you try smth for me if you have a pair of Maehlin Hubris?
Does Maehlin convert the bleeds you get from Laup to ignite?
Thx! š
i you use taunt totem will you be able to get the heal and cleanse debuff still on you?
is it me or is the bones of ancestral pack very stupid? reasonable damage stats and free ward outta the ass
its really good
for totem shama
I actually didn't pick up any yet
if i wanna farm land before just spam adorned prophs?
Yes lol
I also distinctly remember saying the same back when 1.3 released and people kept assuring me that it will be shit
now I see it's quite widespread in guides and everything
ffs, its impossible to get naals sword, 47 prophecys for onehanded sword later still 0 of them
damn
Holy!
I got it out of one of these boxes
Did you corrupt a set helmet straight away?
got it from this
from 50 regen to 130 lol

@near leaf
Holy!
gonna corrupt one
insane chest
yooo +57% light res
not bricked
LMAO the other one got 42% fire res
pick your res
I love that you can creation and corrupt after still
So much strength lol
Is there a reason to use gathering storm for storm totem? I feel like cleanse is a must
Potion or Eterra blessing
There's the boots corruption too. harder to get I suppose, but it's an extra cleanse option
and my luck streak continues, damn!
nice!
is this the kind of stuff you bear druids use ?
some will do definitely ye
Dang, how's shatter totem feeling? Debating swapping to something less sweaty than tsunami
feeling really good with the new unique and it gets really strong scaling with gear
it's very much melee is you like the playstyle
I mean my Maelstrom build is also super melee so I don't mind, and pretty good honestly but you're hitting buttons just constantly to keep maelstrom stacks up via warcry, lagons slumber, etc
emperor of mankind, colorized, around 40 000
upheaval shrine had me look twice
Is there a fast way to farm the relic from lagoon? Ive done 9 boss runs, that's like 8 maps then all the quests eveeytime.
You can use Temporal Keystones to push stability and run the boss with less mapping
Hmm... Probably not worth the primordial slot, but I do wonder if there's a build for this.
you'd have much higher chance in empowered monos and then no quest just boss
1000ward decay treshold is something
how come i have eye of the storm node but my tornado doesn't attach to me? i can see the tornado doesn't move for some reasons, but i don't have stationary node spec'd?
That looks really cool
I had a maelstrom stacker last league that would have loved that amulet
Did anyone find that new upheval lightning idol? can i target farm that sooomehow? Tons of Prophecies for idols but none yet
Its cheap asf on mg. You doing unique idol prophecies?
yea, im COH
Dunno then. I do know some drops were bugged for idols that recently got patched. Maybe its bugged for cof
what unique is this that benefit shatter totem
is it the new relic
Laup's Path. Summons thorn totems, so it's easy shattering
Dang what CR you at?
A low life buildperhaps ? Since youāll need lots of ward
how would u get the 100% to dot?
I do know a lot of exsang builds love ward decay threshold
high regen build with vessel of strife
benefits from this as well
that's planner gear, on my current gear I have 77% global cdr on gear + 34% additional for fury leap
guys think the ancestral weaponry passive worth to invest
i plan to use primal cadence
which is two handed axe
O sry I mean corruption lol
Sadly no until they buff it or lower the point cost
even tho its +40 flat physical?
Theyndo!
Why the keplahan ring? Just for the extra complete set?
Yea but I could be wrong.
pretty much I got that corrupting any set ring and the stats were ok
it's one additional skill point, 5 all stats and 5 all res
its chance lol
you can get a good outcome just don't risk your only one
Yeah i was looking at the primordial items and that one looked like the one that clearly fit the best š
it does enable so much
always been a ring of royal grandeur fan :D
how do i make maelstrom stacking work?
oh sorry forgot to respond I'm at 517 but I'm not pushing further for now, damage would be enough but some enemies are deadly in cemetaries and during omens I'd rather cruise safely
Same here š
Right now i am trying to get the ring and find more ways of lowering the cooldown of maul xD im down to 2.5sec at least š
I'm at 1.4 rn I would say under 1.8 starts to feel really good for damage uptime and leech
I highly recommend the primordial echo chains they give so much ressources and force the spawn too so you don't need to grab those points on the weaver tree
Yeah those are amazing, love the chains overall š And i do love just how the build looks xD haha
you can cheat a bit on get to the end placing woven echoes next to them it's so fun
God damned frozen heart that does not wanna drop >,>
And i dont have enough to buy it and still have enough xD haha
you'll get them
I think some echoes do have higher chance for that
I had 3/3 on that it didn't take too long
Hearts are rare
since when they are a thing lol
The best way to get crystalized hearts is the glade. Its an echo that spawns a bunch of rift beasts. Good chance of getting 1 or more hearts.
Yes it is, bleeds becomes ignites
Thx
They fixed omen idol drops, and I did one omen encounter
corrupt kinda useless but that's okay lol
real shame they capped Immolator's Oblation
hoooooly
wow
Yeah, once again we are paying for the abuse of other classes
does the storm totem autocast relic activate the consume 5 totem for a better totem thing or not?
š acolyte
Yes
do you think stdorm totem will still do okay dmg even with no totem nodes?
I'm feeling the 10% drop rate on Exulis this is gonna take a while to see it and get the right corrupt
Does laup's path use mana to summing the thorn totems?
nope
need cast speed nodes
hmkay hmkay
my mana drains during fights and it confuses me why
ah maelstrom storm bolt stuff is cast so it costs mana i think
might have excited bolts in gathering storm as well
its the highest potential damage node but you need to keep your mana capped
1st try pog
which is why people go spriggan form
not using it
gathering storm i mean
tho yeah they would be boosted asf from that
i was considering replacing tornado with something else but maybe i could try gathering storm
im just not wanting to press the button lol
and already struggling with mana
Excited Bolts has a bonus cap and I'm over here on Sentinel with uncapped Devotion and Judgement Aura 
Balanced 
its tragic that on relic slot none of the +lvl skills do anything for me
at best itd be warcry but dont really need the points
some of the +level affixes give good extra bonuses too
you dont
storm totem casts it for you
it just has benefits from both trees
but thats a totem build if youre already spending mana with tornado idk if thats good for you
i dont have an open slot for both things tho
ye
@shut laurel !!!!!
did i just do an oopsie
can i slam this into a primalist relic
or did i just burn 200k
If the affix is not Sentinel only , yes
phew
What are you trying to slam ?
attune
fml i need to somehow beat julra 4 to slam my relic
cant even beat julra 3 smh
If the unique relic is not primalist-only, yes
the one im slamming the sentinel relic in is primalist yes
You cannot slam items with conflicting requirements, so like if you wanted to slam that on a Laup's path for example, you won't be able to
you need a generic relic or primalist-only relic to slam on a unique primalist-only relic
Bruh fr. Next patch better be the return of the shaman. Weāre the forgotten child for too damn long
Shaman had an update recently (relatively speaking) didn't it?
it is a sad day. I am dropping the bees and moving on to bigger things š
Thatās fantastic ! Wow.
damn near max rolled
if you consider 1.1 recent, yeah
it was one of the first reworks they did
I feel like Runemaster has been waiting longer. They got released and forgotten
Yea 1.1 we got gathering storm stuff which is great and all but that enables like what 2 good builds ?
Shaman does need some serious work on the passive tree though
I feel like we need a new avalanche unique item, an earthquake item. and items that arenāt fire themed ffs lol
its identity is all over the place
Yup
The first half of the tree gets good use, but the second half is unused even by Shamans
2 of our skill uniques are fire themed XD
Bees donāt seem very good was pretty disappointed
I don't mind if Uniques are fire conversions tbh
But not getting cold ones for Tornado and EQ inside the skill trees is a crime for me
The identity of Shaman Coldis lightning Phys
i gotta say it's extremely entertaining stun locking bosses
I don't mind a bit of flavor with some fire Uniques why not
I can't swap characters without alt f4..
Yea fair, I just think we need a few more uniques that help those skills. That arenāt only for fire haha
The new idol is a good addition, although the 30 stack requirement bugs me
Not too much fun
I get that proccing a full EQ every 0.5 sec could lead to balance issues
But 30 stacks is just bonkers
Plz shaman skill š
I guess ya
The EQ off of Upheaval still wprks off of triggered Upheavals by other skills like Avalanche, right?
It should yeah
Idk if triggers happen off of triggers
Cool, wanted to be sure. I'm just doing Shaman Kitchen Sink, seeing if I can get Avalanche/Upheaval/EQ to work lol
But should be easy to test cause avalanche generates storm stacks
I get a ton of them on bosses
You can full loop
Aftershock > boulder > EQ >Aftershock > boulders etc...
If you have infinite mana
That was one angle I considered
I'm going Attunement stacking to see how much mana regen I can get alongside the other stuff to help
You mean boulder from aftershocks can trigger EQ?
I remember that didnāt happen in 1.1
Cause itās in the channeled part of tree
It does
Yeah, it's unfortunate but it does check requirement conflicts for the items as a whole, not for the affixes
It has always worked - there was a bug though with scorpion's boulders, they were unable to proc any skills at all
but that was just for the first few weeks of 1.3
I distinctly remember trying making a halvars build at 1.1 start with idols. Iād proc avalanche boulders tha wouldnāt make EQās :/
They do need to be large boulders, which you have to spec for and it's only 20% chance per boulder at most
I'm not sure if anyone has, but the funny thing is you can make an infinite self-sustaining loop
Butcher's Crown alongside Attunement stacking and Apathy should hit more than enough mana on hit
if you tune it up too much, you can delete all your mana though lol
Exactly what I was planning has
Haha
Just havenāt been able to get gear yet
20 mana on hit, 4 times per 2 seconds
Or more
That's why you gotta mana on auto hit with gathering storm awkwardly
It's not possible to sustain the maximum mana drain without being werebear or swarmblade, but can't do either since you need to be a shaman to run the loop
You can likely hit 35~ or so depending on the gear and extra mana regen affixes
I feel like thatās gotta be enuf
but certainly more mana generation will mean you can sustain more stuff going on
Iām determined to try it.
How many storm crows are max, 6?
has anyone played around with Lightning Earthquake, or is it not worth it ?
Yeah, 7 crows max with a +2 helm primo, 6 otherwise
When I calculate it 6 seems max with t8 champ affix
2 base +1 BM + 1 BM tree + 1 100 Att threshold + 2 t8 affix
Ah you've 2 base
Okay, vaaling time
What are you league starting?
oof
So far, I'm running vinebear with Laup totems
Vinebear uses Spriggan Form as well, right?
It specs it, but doesn't use the form itself
What do you use for rage?
How's it working? Sounded like a fun concept
Tear?
Yeah, tear is sustaining me - hopefully I might be able to swap over to just rage per second enchant idols, but that's a distant future thing if possible
So far, so good, I made it to empowered and just trying to get some decent blessings and fix my junk gear before pushing up corruption
felt really OP up until empowered, it deleted all the bosses along the way
but I really need to upgrade my weapon/catalyst, can't find any exalts to slam them yet
Is tsunami converted to phys if grabbing the cold to phys node from maelstrom?
yes
Oo
That's would be sweet, so you can run serpents milk
Yeah, though I might run death rattle or Logi's instead
Oh, I can do swipe spell aftershock with maelstrom tsunami
That dread build
But without the tsunami
Yes but phys spell aftershocks are dead, they got replaced with lightning
Tsunami hitting hard?
Gotta use it with Alluvion for max RP
@patent dock did u maybe have a planer for this build?
This is what I've been using, it's a pretty rough planner ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWXOD0eL
thx

Look at all that minion move speed 
Why this one?
and less damage while moving
I'm running crit
There's a lot more multis for crit available, so I've been leaning into that, but tbh I haven't done any calculations to actually see which would be better
27 mi' fight....
return of the 27 min uber 
Just thinking about fighting uber for that long is stressful lol, though I'm sure for normal content it's a totally fine build
Ah so swipe is bugged with companion ability too? 
Yup
I wanna use that axe too !!
Let's go 
Fantastic, Mike can't play his EQ bear if he would stream. Wonder if it will be noticed before then
You're cheating!"
So the vines doin big dam?
Cool. Build
They are doing okay damage in empowered, but I also don't have very much flat damage atm since I have a non-legendary apogee
Hopefully it'll feel like big damage again as soon as I can get it slammed 
Btw anyone use the new earthquake MTX and get a graphical bug on the aftershock ma
Wondering if itās just my PC lol
What was the item or passive that gives spell damage per strength?
Thats less than stellar, thanks
There's a few different ones. Palarus 1h sword and this werebear node also
The werebear node is interesting. Never did werebear
Im fiddling with storm stacks though, not sure that plays well with bear
Nah, not super well, plus storm bolts already get +1 per attunement instead of increased damage
Ah
15 max companions with double land before š
Lol
More frogs for the frog god
Are you saying I can have 2 thrones of ambition?
I believe so
noice!
doesnt seem like throne doubles up
@near leaf Umm stacked on single target crowstorm crit is 10m atm
Last season I was reliably stunning Uber with it
so if I am leveling to use the frog helm and really not having fun with bear is raptors a good alternative to bear leveling? I'm currently level 50
Which one is better for frog build? I think the dex/guile one, since i Have 2k armour with it, and brutality one i have 500armour with
took so long to corrupt another 2 LP amulet, best I can get
well my upheaval build has turned out basically how i expected. pretty okay for mapping, pretty bad for bossing. monolith bosses get stun locked at least
Upheaval, Swipe, Wolf, Warcry ?
Yeah, one on left looks better to me
upheaval, swipe, bear, leap, frenzy totem
what idols we looking for?
nice for survivability, good source of armor shred and phys res shred
i'd like the more damage from howl
no1 seems to know which amu is better ? :c
lol first time trying to run omen's veil, what the holy dps check, literally spawns so many monsters there's no rooms to move
Is that the triple one ?
the triple one is a cluster for sure
left one is better also having 0 armor sucks you'll die from a sneeze
I haven't really decided yet, probably health large idols with rage per second enchant or some inc minion crit idols of some type
Yeah
ty
hard to decide, but i think Frog build likes the left one, since its right ringbase?
losing 104% increased minion dmg does feel bad tho
70ish% i mean
multi better than increased
Anyone know if the echo chain node in weavers makes them spawn as typed chains (omen/primal/etc)
corrupt all is the thing, lost so many 2LP items due to this tho.. :D
Well sometimes you can't fill it to max
depends on the map
But I agree, stay longer in the map to get more loot
I understand why they don't but kinda wished killing monsters in the primordial cave and cemetery would fill the bar
so this can only be slammed with another 2handed axe?
kinda sad ifu canot use staff/sceptre/2h sword etc
hard to find 2x t7 mods for 2 LP scythes :D
2h axe on 2h axe
kk, was 500 corr sweet spot for CoF? or 1000 corr?
doing 400-500ish with frogs now, and seems hard to get into 1k or even close
the bear tornado thing still works? is it played differnetly now?
No
Itās now Shaman Tornado
Well this guy is the top ladder primalist he using druid tornado,
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/SabishiiKami/character/NarimotoSayonara
I don't understand how you're supposed to use this now, they can't have tested it right?
(You can't search your tabs anymore)
I just did and it worked fine
There is the chest icon
Oh you mean all the windows stacked on top ?
Yeah, before you could close the nemesis egg by pressing the X, now it just closes everything so you can't search at all
Jeez that was a hard fight
Weird, I just did one and didnt have that problem
@shut laurel
Maybe its time to pivot brutality ^^
So you can see these tabs?
Yup
Gonna repair my game then I guess
how do i not mess this up? (i assume it's good for a SC build)
Try seal psn res
If you succed add %Hp and up
If you have fp left try rerolling the base
!HOLY!!!!
How did it go ?
Probably a screen resolution thing
iāll reply back tomorrow with results, got pulled away from LE for remainder of day
I have a tab I dedicate to egging that automatically picks up all 0 LP uniques, so I haven't actually checked if my search stuff works well
Yeah I didn't wanna make a egg tab but that's the thing I'll probably do, I shouldn't need to which is what's annoying
is egging the 0lps still good? ive just been rune corrupting mine for insta gratification
Only use case for 0 LP uniques is to egg them, so it's pretty convenient imo
If it's a unique you want LP on, yes - corruption is something I'd only do on uniques not worth egging
Guys, does anyone know how stormbear druid works now, with you no longer getting all mana back when changing forms?
I see that the dude who made the build guide for it on LE tools is currently still playing it, but how is the mana issue solved, or is that just something you have to deal with?
He had a. Reddit post about hitting 100 first. Maybe some answers in there
Title was like ādouble 1st 100. Ask me anythingā
Found it, nothing about the actual build sadly
its trying too hard to be WOW shaman, like why are fire spells even a thing on shaman to begin with, isn't he a northern follower of Heorot? either has fu ck all to do with volcanos and fiery tornadoes
the problem is that the class still doesnt have its primary themes realized adequately, including still lacking a skill btw
Thematically, it's Lagon, Heorot, and Rahyeh right? So that's why there's fire stuff
Its themes are there pretty well imo, its numbers are awful though
no? Nothing on shaman is thematically connected to Rayeh, other than like one recent unique
Anyone else not found a single bees/s idol?
Primalist is a follower of Heorot
Bro u are asking real question
Fire Tornado only justification is
We wanted a system where skill could interact with each other > Tornado + Fireball > Fire Tornado
They are, and always have been, extremely rare
Yet he have 1 melee cold skill 
Fair. I am in the 90's though. Geeez. Have triple checked drop fil š
Jajjssjsjsjs
Every one of primalist's melee skills has cold conversion or support except for EQ
Ts, not a real skill, GS, not a real skill, only leap and that's with the sword
That's why I say the numbers are terrible on most primalist skills
Like how is it possible we have a node like this and still have no good non-companion bleed builds? 
yeah that's a great mage build right there, oh wait
I thought raptors was good for bleed, you as a bleed build thought will be meh though
or maybe they referred to their skill sigil or something system that was planned for 2022 but still isn't in the game as of 2026
this is also a problem, but let's face it, are numbers not terrible on most skills of most other classes? Like take mage, how many runic invocations are playable out of 40?
or how balanced is fireball vs lightning bolt? Or heck line AOE lightning bolt or channeling lightning bolt or aoe chains lightning bolt VS the meta LB spark charge build?
Hitting 1-2/second with 100% ADE isn't cutting it anymore, most classes have some other skills triggering when we have aftershock and boulders which you would have to choose between
Nah, the fire tornado thing is from like pre-beta era, where they were experimenting with skill interactions. They scrapped that system entirely, but kept the fire tornado in just because.
Are they affraid of all the flat from frenzy totem and Berserk stacks perhaps?
Yeah, it is an issue overall. Primalist just struggles the most imo because it generally has 0 options, where most have at least one.
Primalist is all minions or using/proccing big cost skills, in general
so it's just lack of vision
Saber and wolves are better imo
No?
random disjointed features from 8+ years ago being in the game for no reason? Yeah mate that's exactly it
Bear 
is anyone using laup's path for anything besides totem shatter?
I just figured that these are not critical multiplier, but MELEE critical multiplier
Sadge
Yeah, I'm running thorn totems + vines
Indeed you are right, but I used the other way to change tabs
So I didnt realised ^^
It looks like the top shaman on corruption lb is kicking ass with totems. That offhand gives a lot of ward?
Yes, a lot
How much it usually hovers at
Would frostbite vinebear be viable? Vines and totems can convert, Apogee is pretty nice too.
hey friends, do y'all know if you can slam corrupted items into uniques?
or are they locked out of crafting entirely
Corrupted items can't be used for slams, same goes for reforged items.
It should be, yeah. I'm running it as crit right now, not sure which version ends up better yet... I might do a calc at some point when I'm looking to optimize some more
do the storm bolts from tornado and maelstrom count as expending stacks or do you actually need to spend them
No
If i cast entagling roots via the bears maul and i have wild roots (the one that gives you allies a buff), would that give it to me aswell?
They donāt count as stacks
yeah I figured but wanted to make sure there wasnt something wonky I was missing
All the entangling roots buffs specify "other allies", so they will not buff you
Damn š
you know its kinda odd we dont have a way to convert tornado to cold
So what attribute stacking can we do apart of str?
Why do you always make me sad ?
Swipe only werebear should make you depressed
Int with Cleaver
Attunement could be nice too
I just realized that the tornadoes attach to you node is bugged
Is there a way we can int stack with primalist?
Apart from attunement stack?
Spirit thorns is actually really good now
Why do you want int on Spirit Thorns ?
There is giga potential
Well, there are a couple uses, but yeah
Also, its one of the rare case where I think Ladle might nog be worth
Spriggan has so little acces to Flat Dmg
Not enough flat damage, for sure
*Spell
on bear it's great because you can stack str for flat, but no such thing on spriggan
chonky suffixes 
Thats 35% Crit Avoid
Only thing that gives attinement stacking is hazelroot
But itās 3 attunement for 1 spell
šš
Summon spriggan is also buffed
With the land before you can get many spriggans
Are we cooking
yep, sticky nados aint sticky
Took nigh on 100 prophecies but it turns out it does exist.
Yeah known bug
I'm waiting on swipe and tsunami to get fixed myself
I think they also disabled last bear set on my account
Usually drop like candy
Havent had any
shoud i corrupt this?
how is swipe bugged?
decently 90minion melee dmg
Always !!
So I know bees are kinda meh, has anyone tried them with Anurok Hybrid to see how they manage with some clear support?
700corr enough for me
cba grinding 2 LP items to hit 2 good rolls to whiff corruption :D
there is no endgame other than uber aberroth sadly ;d
was fun tho
so I seen the frog build uses lone wolf but wont you only have one wolf anyway because of how land before works? so is this just a wasted skill point that the build is using?
Hey you don't know nuthin
Back in 1.0 it took me 19 slams to hit t7 flat crit on a eternal eclipse
Wolf has a thing that gives you one wolf that doesn't take a companion slot
correct, I was just talking about how the one maxroll build for frogs takes the lone wolf node when you dont even need it because land before makes sure of that anyway lol
Bees aren't bad, just not sure how many are scaling them efficiently.
No they are bad
so I was doing it with the frogs and the clear speed is good but you just end up going all frogs and making them hit harder
I just moved away from bees and now I am less tanky but the frogs just destroy it all
Yeah figured, 20 extra bees costs too much gear space presumably
And their only real scaling turns off crits
@near leaf sealed poison first try then had the worst luck with the rest of the FP during upgrades. still seems like a cool item though
Which is huge anti-synergy
yeah, that is really the big part is it is 3 slots that are really important
I think if it was like 2 set that would be ok
You only really need to run the weapon, then use set affix on chest. The Queen is not worth it.
get bee per 10 idols and the relic and you are still runnning around with 40 bees
Pretty sweet item
yeah but it still does low dmg and bad clear imo
over just using frogs or really anything else in BM
I think if I could use the armor shred mace with the bees
it would be awesome
but sadly I cant offhand maces
Tsunami is going pretty well at least, not sure it's much better than just avalanche except for the fact it's screen wide
I played with just some idols and the chest and off hand so I could get some bees and saw the shred numbers go crazy
Strength stacking with the relic seems to push some good single target damage, especially with 40 bees
not S tier, but saying it's bad is not accurate
over just rocking a bear or raptors?
If the weapon was not a mace I think it would be alot better because you could off hand it and put something else to help bumb the dmg.
should of been a sticky sword
I doing it as Spriggan so has easy Armor cap and using the Bones Primal offhand, perma sitting at 4k ward and super high endurance
literally face tank everything and the Bees kill stuff
I mean I cant lie, it was tanky
but it was night and day when I used any other pet sadly. I had all the stuff and even got a few bee idols but still just felt meh.
I think I would of liked them more with necro
and just use sacrifice on them
they spawn back fast enough
Anuroks only summon up to your number of unused companion slots. Wolf howl is a great buff for the frogs but if you don't have the lone wolf node it will take up a companion slot that you could be getting a toad from
What did it do?
I just spec and repseced into this like 3 times and I did not notice the frogs go up. I think it is because you already get 1 that does NOT count as a companion but also the landbefore sees the wolf and says "hey you cant have another" so it is making the node useless
yeah it is 11 no matter what I do
Permanent bond is what gives you the extra wolf ignoring cap
the only question is whether you are able to use howl or not
I can
once capped why would would it not turn to howl? say if I make abunch of raptors and hit cap and pick bond?
why would I not get howl? I hit cap and cant summon any more
If land before lets you use howl without taking lone wolf, then yeah lone wolf is a dead point
the lone wolf node just seems weird on how it works because if I am already capped... whould I not get my pet ability?
It's a long story, but it amounts to the game doesn't know whether it should let you summon more wolves or not
because you could replace all those raptors with wolves, for example
I think as long as you spawn the raptors first but I can see where having to make sure you do the correct summon order would be kinda painful and would rather just put a point in lone wolf
Invite me if you do lagoon boss š i have every item but that damn relic š
how much ward are you shamans getting w/ that totem build using the primordial offhand
Anyone else having leap fail to cast 50 percent of the time this season?
2k - 3k
nice
Really should be getting more than that too
Plus have solid health pool
with my Spriggan Bee build I am permanently at 4-5k ward using the Bones off hand
will get higher with more Endurance Threshold
i thought on werebear u dont regen mana when transformed
yet everytime i come out of werebear form my mana bar is like full again
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Does anyone know whether "Jormun's Wrath" node for warcry make "Toxic Companion" bleed chance added to wolves convert to frostbite chance?
couldn't have been too big a nerf the top primalist on corruption ladder is druid nado
yh im copying his build
at least for leveling rn
That's an interesting question that i don't know the answer to
My guess is no
I hope not, but I think I have an idea on how to test that, will report back my findings : )
is it still worth to take swipe if not proc primal resonance?
damn
anyone already have a good build with natural wrath ?
You regen mana normally in bear form it doesn't reset to full like it used to though.
I think you may have replied to the wrong person lol
Looks that way
Is there a good way to target farm attunement exalt mods?
you could pick up the other stat mods and convert them in that one weaver echo
only costs 1 fp, so it makes it easier to work with stat affixes
It's a woven echo called Oerdin's Watch. You complete it and get a crafting altar that lets you change the attribute affix into another one (except vitality). Gotta have at least one FP to alter the item
ah so still need an attribute
I was really hoping the swipe and tsunami bugs would be fixed by now :/
I guess it's still sunday for most of the dev team
But the whole weekend with most bm builds crippled or only semi functional is very scuffed
whats the best way to generate storm stacks?
Still didnāt find one but Iām playing HC and havenāt reached empowered monos yet. My plan is the full gs, aftershock, avalanche, upheaval, earthquake loop.
Probably avalanche with that node that generates stacks
As dual wield shami with high attack speed, proccing aftershock via idols, proccing avalanche, proccing more stacks via the node storm caller.
is a druid with toads or crows stronger?
hard to say, but either way you're better to use beastmaster for those builds
I wrote it wrong. I'm a Beastmaster on Toads, but the Fire Crow build looks pretty good too.
oh i have 0 clue about fire crows
Some items have area damage and pure damage for guns. Ravens seem to scale better with the new armor and fire damage.
well, so the main thing is that the chest only gives storm crows specifically some increased damage and the ignite chance
which is nice
but it's not really that huge and it gives them no + lvls
which they are quite hungry for
storm crows just aren't really a DoT companion in general just cos they have some good crit nodes
also the armor shred chance/effect per str is really good for hit based as well
the major damage scaling it has is for spriggan
which gets the more damage per summoned scorm crow
and spriggan is quite shit at baseline, at least for dealing damage
and I'm not sure if this chest can slavage it
btw have they fixed the primal resonance bug?
no
cause that chest looks decent for fire raptors but if swipe isn't fixed yet I'm not sure if I want to be playing that
When Apogee exist, I have a hard time doing playing non cold crows
like i am currently doing
ngl
i know these have a lower baseline and scale better with gear than scorp
but they still feel kinda mid
Crows?
yeah
Oo
like i know i'm not really geared right for them yet
Idk, last time I played them they felt pretty good from the get go
but lvl 90 mono omens take a few seconds to die
whereas they just evaporated the frame their invuln went away with scorp
You are going full Crowstorm?
Ah
that's impacted even more than scorp is
Yeah, their basic spell is garbage
hmmm
it's aight
bit more scaling into it
and it's fine
with the bouncing effect it has decent enough low effort clear
but i really need to get + levels and their crit up and running
Maybe with Tempest Totem for Lagon stack and gathering storm
How many pts in the mana consume do you have ?
2
How many crows?
How come?
they already have a bit of a windup time with tempest strike melee
with the totems that will be longer
and be another thing to track
But that frees you some time to GS more for more mana, no?
yes
but if it feels really bad to play unless you got somewhere to sit stationary and smack a high health thing
that's still bad
also i'm still only lvl 81 so can't really afford the passive points for the extra mana in that tree
okay yeah with that the damage feels better but man it's a lot of buffs to maintain
has anyone found a natural wrath? im targeting with prophecies but still havent found 1
anyone almost at lagon ? been farming him 2 days not drop lol
Got 2 randomly š
ok so they exist
What are you trying to get from him?
im just unlucky
the relic
Ah ! She can be pretty rare
i farmed the increased chance for relics from the stolen timeline, im farming empowered lol
unfortunately not only does the increased chance for relics not apply to boss drops
it doesn't actually apply to uniques in general
Pretty sure that doesn't affect boss drop
prety much all i need to not swap between haha
oh? thats ok š
i'll get it evbentually haha
yeah storm crows aren't for me i think
@iron helm morning! how is the build going?
Are you still using the new Natural Wrath idol?
faaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrkkkk
I haven't had much time to blast, and I am currently playing my bleed/poison dancing strikes build
still waiting for natural wrath to drop
what build did you roll with?
found 2 natural wrath via prophecy in dungeon...broke both via corruption
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the other question is...is it worth it? any good lightning earthquake builds around?
finally got it
i have a working beastmaster one, its ok, im gunna test out stormbreaker werebear now
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4XR2ZE9 this is alright, the mana gain is kinda meh, probably needs a ton more attack speed
Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1
Primalist (24) / Beastmaster (74) / Shaman (15)
āø Health: 3,421, Regen: 176.4/s
āø Mana: 218.97, Regen: 8/s
āø Ward Retention: 288%, Regen: 0/s
āø Attributes: 144 Str / 20 Dex / 144 Int / 28 Att / 47 Vit
āø Resistances: 92% / 111% / 97% / 97% / 91% / 119% / 98%
āø Endurance: 72%, Threshold: 853
āø Dodge Chance: 3% (80)
āø Armor Mitigation: 55% (3,716)
āø Crit Avoidance: 118%
Also haven't had much time, I went with shaman and got the idol to drop yesterday with COF prophecies, but I think I need to still figure out gear before I can utilize it, but already hating my shaman pick just because it feels like I have to use totems and I really dislike totems
thinking to build around storm stacks and stormbreaker yea
i dont think totems is it for shaman, i think you crank the shit out of the avalanche on melee hit idols
I just dislike leveling primalist still
and then do turbo attack gathering storm
You be missing some context meka
I just feels like if I want to use upheavel it has to be with a totem
Slinx and I had some theorycrafted builds
That's fair but natural wrath sadly doesn't work with totems
dont play it as first character in a league, use alt items to level it
I don't know why I though upheavel would feel better but it really does not feel good as a skill, it does not give me that same power slam fantasy as sunder in POE
it feels like I am just hitting pebbles at enemies
ok
or like a mole skill that just throws up dirt
its damage is just ass
also if you want to make it a big slam you get a prohibitively high mana cost
basically like 5 years ago upheaval was balanced around having 120 free flat damage from its tree which back then was a big deal, but then it was nerfed and the rest of the game was power crept and upheaval failed to keep up
yea
Please forgive the idiot question - for Storm Totem does the Blizzard node count as a hit?
or is it DoT>
Dot
not an idiot question with how subskill details are often displayed in this game
yea, I think I am just going to farm gold to respec to druid, go bear swipe boring plain build to farm twink gear and finish all the mono setup shit and then swap to mage or something else.
Stormbreaker definitely helps a ton with getting 30 stacks
actually give me a sec
i need to test something
Via aftershock in between or directly?
kk
if you just want to do damage with swipe it should work fine
just keep in mind the swipe on-hits other than ailments only happen only every other swipe
atm
via idols
yea and the Idol only consumes 20, whats Max stacks?
there have been a ton of fixed this patch to lightning stuff tho...should feel way stronger
50 is max as they consume instant after that afaik
also lol
So you "only" have to recharge 20 fast and stay above 30...mhmhm
i went back and loaded up my char with the speed farming setup for testing that
and bro
he is GAPPING IT
those animations are really good with high MS
yep! feels really Fluid now
When I tried gs into avalanche last season I liked the aftershock idols + trigger avalanche from aftershock more. More proccs I think. But have to test again
IM FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yea the animations are a big improvement, now if only they didn't also break the skills
Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1
Primalist (24) / Shaman (89)
āø Health: 2,121, Regen: 28/s
āø Mana: 253.51, Regen: 0/s
āø Ward Retention: 242%, Regen: 0/s
āø Attributes: 121 Str / 8 Dex / 121 Int / 69 Att / 8 Vit
āø Resistances: 102% / 133% / 172% / 82% / 65% / 43% / 104%
āø Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 488
āø Dodge Chance: 6% (166)
āø Armor Mitigation: 53% (3,513)
āø Crit Avoidance: 60%
Upheaval / Gathering Storm / Earthquake / Avalanche / Warcry
Take note melee shaman is extremely squishy so build around less dmg taken items like immortal vise , pale ox and red ring. storm breaker will be your main sustain
Ah yeah seed of ekridasel works well too
Why falcon fists?
attack speed
immortal vise is better
man im so used to spellblade capping crit from breathing
This is my dual wield plan for when I have the right sword but currently playing with storm breaker.
Stacking attunement for flat GS dmg, lightning pen and armour via upheavel.
Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4
Primalist (30) / Beastmaster (10) / Shaman (58) / Druid (15)
āø Health: 3,208, Regen: 23.6/s
āø Mana: 532.51, Regen: 25.44/s
āø Ward Retention: 64%, Regen: 0/s
āø Attributes: 50 Str / 38 Dex / 32 Int / 159 Att / 38 Vit
āø Resistances: 34% / 58% / 132% / 74% / 34% / 72% / 96%
āø Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 796
āø Dodge Chance: 6% (179)
āø Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,836)
Gathering Storm / Upheaval / Earthquake / Avalanche / Warcry
nice
maybe this, https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrX72vek
Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1
Primalist (24) / Shaman (89)
āø Health: 2,264, Regen: 39/s
āø Mana: 342.51, Regen: 14.64/s
āø Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
āø Attributes: 99 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 65 Att / 15 Vit
āø Resistances: 143% / 102% / 138% / 59% / 66% / 81% / 56%
āø Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 517
āø Dodge Chance: 16% (544)
āø Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,019)
āø Crit Avoidance: 115%
Upheaval / Gathering Storm / Earthquake / Avalanche / Warcry
i dunno, the bear beastmaster lightning earthquake was working lol
i forgot about whetstone gavel
cant have weaver ammy and +1 to all skills, it will convert to a random ammy on corruption, or nuke it
Ah good point.
You could go low life with your cleaver setup
The idea here for natural wrath is to expend 30 stacks at once for single target and trigger all the rest for clear.
i think beastmaster with stormbreaker might be better
@near leaf I'm trying out cold shatter rn to see how it feels
guys its wearbear stormbreaker
You can use throne of Ambition
People saying omens are scary
My totems donāt think so
But they get deleted kinda fast lol
Power of nature
so awkward to fit in my idol setup but I know it's big dmg
And big armor
Hmmm
Can't think of any more bm builds i wanna try that don't use swipe
For if the bug isn!t fixed tomorrow
whats swipe bug?
Its non-ailment on hit effects don't trigger on the backhand/offhand swing
So companion ability trigger, mana gain, aspect of the panther stacks, spirit wolves
Basically kneecaps a good 80% of bm builds
So thats why I noticed my scorpion wasn't doing his nova pool when I swiped half the time!
Yuuup
I've done most of my leveling with swipeless nova
Tempest strike for mana gaining and pure EB refresh to do novas
But it's really not the playstyle i wanna be playing :/
Tbh i wanted to be playing tsunami scorp at this point
BUT THAT'S BUGGED TOO D:<
90% of beastmaster builds?
that's what happens when the entire class is propped up by one skill
And scorp nova is actually really primed to be super good for this
But even ignoring the swipe bug
I can't recommend it to people
Because the EB targetting issues are orders of magnitude worse in omen windows
Been asking for EB to get companion auto target somewhere on its tree since beta
It's okay, in 1.6 we will play paradox BM
maybe I'm shit a tetris but I don't see an optimal way to fit 2x2 for throne in a pyramidal setup while still using good idols
ornate idols are so bad for this build
Prefixes are meh
- health on kills
- stun chance
- stun duration
Suffixes are pretty nice imo
- Inc cold dmg
- boar effect
- spell dmg with Totems (that should work because you shoot Upheaval after the Totems are created)
What idols are you using rn?
I am using hp and Crit avoid, that I would love to have on the same idols btw... Not on 2 separate
on heorot crit multi when transformed (best) and right now shared phys dmg but phys, poison res or even boar effectiveness
and yeah on my large idols it's hp, crit avoid/res/spell damage
but they all can roll crit multi on weaver so it's like bis
also 10% cdr on top
Be careful it's not really clear but it's Melee Crit
in-game it shows as generic in tooltip
For the Heorot
you sure it's not just letools?
it counts
Oo
I tried it yesterday wtf
oh shit
you're right I'm dumb hhaha
so it is missing the melee specification in-game still
Yup
spell damage while transformed it is then
Thoughts?
or omen for vitality
was there any good affixes on 2x2 I remember not thinking about them initially when I saw the others
but yeah that's the only posible setup I think with that
or go another altar altogether
But cdr š¢
I'm getting to the point where getting bellow 1.4 is hard
Could go cold pen /%hp
There are other better sources of cooldown reduction.
CDR implicits on a pair of ascetic gloves?
Wait it's 2 prefixes....
Neat.
I mean it's fine
No boar effect?
Careful you picked a silver idols
Idk if it'll show you the class specific idols affix
10% boar effect is that 1% reduced dmg taken?
Isn't the adorned silver idol just a base idol that exists solely as a base for the unique throne of ambition idol?
Ah yeah we are not BM
huh I don't get the cdr bonus with that setup
I thought it would be 3
How come?
dunno maybe LEtools is wrong?
Adorned idols take up 4 spaces & the ones next to 'em are 1 size less.
I took the above part a bit too literally
This works
Might aswell run wing of Discord here š
yeah I think switching altars might just be easier
refracted effect on prefixes/suffixes don't work on unique idols right?
Correct
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Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1
Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (9) / Shaman (15) / Druid (54)
āø Health: 2,738, Regen: 85.17/s
āø Mana: 323.92, Regen: 8.64/s
āø Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 3/s
āø Attributes: 135 Str / 3 Dex / 9 Int / 31 Att / 16 Vit
āø Resistances: 34% / 34% / 37% / 84% / 66% / 66% / 58%
āø Endurance: 73%, Threshold: 1,019
āø Dodge Chance: 1% (12)
āø Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,029)
āø Crit Avoidance: 18%
Earthquake / Swipe / Werebear Form / Warcry / Maelstrom
My current swipe bear druid
Any advice about passives/idols?
Season is super enjoyable for me so far. Corrupting set items is my favourite
How do you trigger upheaval?
Ah sure with leap or maul
Tremor slam node in the werebear form specialization causes Maul to cast upheaval.
There is also the violent upheaval node in fury leap too.
Hey guys, I'm following a storm totem leveling guide. But I'm not sure how "Unmatched storms" is supposed to work. It says it now cast Storm Bolts from gathering storms, but i'm not using it though. Should I start attacking with it ?
I'm a bit confused sorry, any explanations would be welcome
It just replace the basic spell from Storm Totem with Storm Bolts
But you don't need Storm Stacks
I see, I didnt notice. Whats the benefit though ? It seems to lower my damage and cats speed
If you specc into gathering Storm tree you can get a bunch of extra more dmg for your totem
Spirit thorns leveling has been super smooth this season
Ok it makes sense. I'm actually melting lol
how do you add experimental affix onto a unique?
do you just use the dungeon with LP?
Yep, works like a regular affix.
ok cool š
Has anyone messed around with physical converted gathering storm? I don't know why but I want to give it a gob
It seems like it would be bad
Is Blizzard from Storm Totem really useful ? Because it slows down the cast speed a lot. There's a good 2 seconds when it casts the chill area before actually doing lightnign bolt
@patent dock u did any upgrades in build?
It is pretty good, just has trade offs to cold conversion. You benefit from armor shred. Phys converted maelstrom gives you a 1% global phys multiplier per stack that will apply to your stormbolts, can also stun. Downside is you cant use throne of ambition idol, no frostbite stacks or freeze.
Not really
Anyone playing storm totem with chance to shock?
Thatās in the passive tree itself
And storm totem itself
Not yet, still working on getting non-trash gear. Though it feels pretty good for now with 1 LP slam on apogee and boots
So every shaman using manly storm totem is literally playing that what you are asking
Now that upheaval is buffed, I still need to try upheaval totems
if you can fix the mana cost, stormbreaker can get enough stacks purely off upheaval
xylem is addictive
That's it you've convinced me to give it a go
insane hp numbers
and i only got 12% inc hp on items for this amount of hp
lvl 28 but lack of crit makes me sad
You can proc melee attacks while in spriggan form
When I use tremor slam + skull crusher nodes in werebear can I proc 2 upheavals per maul, when I take the violent upheaval node in fury leap tree?
tell me if you got something good š
Bhuldar's Wrath and Lightning in a Bottle are the ways I know of
One of the tooltip tell you
Tldr > no but you get 30% More Dmg
Ah I see, what stats are important for it?
1218 mana
Only other method I can think of is a bit more niche (requires being shaman), any procs enabled by avalanche - upheaval and EQ
Anyone doing this build? How do we update it for season 4 with the new idol alterations
Season 3: Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5
Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (13) / Shaman (60) / Druid (15)
āø Health: 3,533, Regen: 77.88/s
āø Mana: 450.81, Regen: 16.88/s
āø Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
āø Attributes: 46 Str / 11 Dex / 19 Int / 111 Att / 23 Vit
āø Resistances: 46% / 62% / 148% / 66% / 74% / 69% / 69%
āø Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 865
āø Dodge Chance: 3% (84)
āø Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,716)
āø Block Chance: 23%, Mitigation: 23% (375)
minion spell damage
Use binaqc buildguide
And minions cast speed?
in maxroll
Itāll work for this season 3 build too?
there is a threshold, because you want the cast speed of the thorns but not the heal
yes it is amazing
power of nature
Ohhh
What is that?
do you know the threshold?
Its irrevelant tho, https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/totem-shaman-guide
yes?
the boulder idols which work in spriggan form are really bad compared to just not doing it in spriggan form tho.
Using basically all your idols for 3 small boulders/second isn't going to achieve anything worthwhile
