#🧙┃mage

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short peak
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I dont play a lot of LE

unborn hamlet
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It's the best meteor build afaik

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Issue with FC is the mana cost

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Tho now with omen idols with like, perfect mana reduce FC idols stack it might just be mana neutral

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Elemental nova is already neutral by its nodes themselves

short peak
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Im like doing my second monolith atm

unborn hamlet
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It's the meteor cost , cos it procss FC which then procs even more meteors auto casting, 1k mana just evaporates in 2 seconds

short peak
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also I know/heard idols are like the most annoying thing in the game

unborn hamlet
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Less pain in MG tho

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But MG should be default if you're trying off meta stuff cos you get everything dirt cheap

short peak
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I did a map and died, there were too many mob I was taking too much dmg and so I felt like yeah disintegrate won't work out i feelk

unborn hamlet
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I never used disintegrate so I can't help you with that

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Generally any skill spam mage should run twisted heart for ward gen

short peak
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it's fine tbh my goal when I started the character was static orb of orbiting

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but it was so late I sticked with disintegrate

unborn hamlet
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You only swap to SW in late game when you have strong gear

short peak
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you know wanting to do something you can only try at lvl 30 or something

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annoying at time

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you don't even know if it feel good to use

unborn hamlet
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You know I always wanted glacier to be a viable skill

unborn hamlet
short peak
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isn't glacier one of the strongest one ?

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I know people level up on this

unborn hamlet
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It's ok for leveling

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The dmg is just not there later

short peak
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in the past I tried to make a fireball dot build

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didn't work out

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in empowered mono

unborn hamlet
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There is overall just a lot of skills that do nothing, especially for mage

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Cos the running joke is mages only get nerfs

short peak
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yes

unborn hamlet
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Which is not even a joke , cos it's true

short peak
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also weird thing spellblade you have many ability but they all do the same thing

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like they might aswell be just one

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lol

unborn hamlet
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Slightly overperfoming mage build ?????

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Better nerf it 7 times to make it feel balanced

short peak
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😔 *

unborn hamlet
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ZHP ballista doing 100k+ corruption since season 1?

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Better not touch my child

short peak
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how does frost claw elemental nova works

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that you said earlier

unborn hamlet
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You want a build or for the meteor thing

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Cos direct cast FC + nova is not that complicated and it's a fun build

short peak
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I was curious you talked about meteor frost claw and elemental nova

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and I have no idea how it even works

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it's just curiosity

unborn hamlet
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Meteor has a node that procs frost claw, frostclaw has a bunch of nodes that casts more frostclaws and also a node that procs elemental nova, you get like 100+ hits per meteor cast, you stack crit, and use harbinger of stars belt , that procs more meteors on crit

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So it autoloops itself until you run out of mana

short peak
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I feel like anything I try on mage is bad x) with my build making skill

unborn hamlet
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Which is almost instantly cos yeah... FC mana issue

short peak
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one time I tried you know the unique

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that proc a tidal wave

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I loved the concept

unborn hamlet
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Unfortunately the only unique in the game that "casts a skill" that is unrelated to any class that actually does something is spark charge from enigma

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Everything else is straight up useless

short peak
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is this good ?

unborn hamlet
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If you take away enigma from LB you basically make the build useless

unborn hamlet
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Tho...

short peak
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I got this while levelling elemental nova may be nice to do

unborn hamlet
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The entry cost into the build is brutal

short peak
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damn you really your stuff

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idk why but I struggle more making my build work on LE than poe

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all my builds get stopped at empowered mono

unborn hamlet
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Depends what you do. Some builds just work with minimal to no gear and are strong

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Some builds are only strong with strong gear

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That's why imprint nerfs sentenced all the fun in the game to lifetime in jail

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Most niche builds work with super high exalt/unique LP slams

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Which is now impossible to do without imprints

short peak
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im checking the uniques I have

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the game kept giving me fire related unique

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it feel so bad like you feel like fate is telling you

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you chose wrongly

unborn hamlet
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EHG wants people to try new fun stuff then remove the only way to try new fun stuff

short peak
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you were supposed to play fire

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this time

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i got it at like lvl 20

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I was like

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sad

unborn hamlet
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Firestarter is used in some builds as core item

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But 4LP

short peak
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only 4 lp ?

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what is this

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rich people

unborn hamlet
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I mean it's "super easy" to get

short peak
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I feel like if you can get 4 lp your build is mostly done

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and you can reroll

unborn hamlet
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When I farmed sceptres for my frostclaw build I dropped like 50 of them, I didn't even pick them off the ground

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It's a super low level unique potential unique

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4LP is what, like 1 in 70? Or something like that

short peak
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oh

unborn hamlet
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Just stupid easy

short peak
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I see

desert steppe
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1:271

unborn hamlet
desert steppe
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it's basically as easy as it gets

short peak
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this exalted mod was nice it give me 170 ward per second

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with 3 lightning rune

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just passively

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I think

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goated

desert steppe
unborn hamlet
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My point was mostly that it's just a super common super easy to get 4LP

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Because as you said it's as easy as it gets

desert steppe
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yeah I'm not disagreeing, just filling in the details

unborn hamlet
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Ah cmon discord

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Sorry bout that, lag

short peak
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I read this

unborn hamlet
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Did you see the msg?

short peak
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yes

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good build to farm lot item

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other build start out strong

unborn hamlet
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It was not sending, then sent twice, then I deleted one, and it deleted both, gotta love discord sometimes

short peak
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lol

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right now im trying out skills

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to find something funny to do

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what i was going for doesn't feel fun

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the elemental nova channeling

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doesn't feel good to use

unborn hamlet
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I think direct cast Frostclaw+ nova is a fun build, just not gonna be killing Uber at any point with any gear 😂

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It's viable for 700-800 Corr, just doesn't have the dmg to kill ubber

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Cos ailment builds are a joke

short peak
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800 CORRUPTION damn

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me 150 my build are usually bricked

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there

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xD

unborn hamlet
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You said you don't want solved builds so I didn't mention it

short peak
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only on sentinel and rogue

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I can like be fine

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maybe

unborn hamlet
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But the flashy disco is definitely fun

short peak
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they seem easier to build for me

unborn hamlet
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Yea well, cos both sentinel and rogue are giga busted

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And have 600 different builds that are good

short peak
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oh this looked fun until I see 3s cd

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oh a little random 40% more dmg node

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wtf

unborn hamlet
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Nova has good nodes

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But the base dmg sucks so much it doesn't do anything

short peak
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oh really

unborn hamlet
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mages always get nerfed

short peak
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one time I tried a black hole build too

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it was ass

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xD

unborn hamlet
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Black hole is bad for mapping, that's why

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If you look up frostclaw sorcerer build up on maxroll from BinaQc it's the FC+nova build I mentioned

short peak
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i'll check after

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for curiosity

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learning sake

unborn hamlet
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I tweaked it to make nova do a lot more, but yeah, baseline I have from there

short peak
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necromancer and primalist I also struggle a lot

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with those

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I had only fun on two class

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😭

unborn hamlet
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We don't talk about primalist

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It sounds to me primalist should just be deleted from the game with how EHG treats that class

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If you think mages have it bad lmao

short peak
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I think I hate ward

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no matter what I do

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meh for me

desert steppe
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ward is kinda annoying to wrap your head around

short peak
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okay I tank one hit

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second one im dead

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no recovery

unborn hamlet
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Ward is like, 90% weaker than it was in season 1, so understandable

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Sentinels just have infinitely better and easier defensive layers to make than mages do

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Cos their class is actually treated as a class

short peak
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like right now I have aroundf 2K ward and 3K5 with buffs

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second monlith

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but it's so not reliable

unborn hamlet
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Twisted heart as I mentioned

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It's mandatory item pretty much

short peak
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let me check what is this item

unborn hamlet
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Twisted heart of ukeiros

short peak
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it doesn't look that crazy to me

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I gues is it because you get leech and then transform it in ward

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so you get recovery ?

unborn hamlet
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This item alone gets you 7-8k ward permanently with any spam skill

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And yes, you need one of the 1.5% leech node

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Depends on what you scale

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But works best with cold and lightning

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Or you get the leech blessing from one of the timelines

short peak
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yeah nothign I really want to do it's depressing when your plan failed

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I thought disintegrate and glyph of dominion would feel cool and stuff

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but it doesn't

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I might have to copy a build like you advised me

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if I continue to play mage

unborn hamlet
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There is nothing to really do on mage, everything usable is solved

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Will see if some new items gonna change stuff , but nothing changed for us this season

short peak
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also runic invocation is so weird

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how does a new guy arrives

unborn hamlet
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Let's not get started on that

short peak
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and build around them

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I check there like hundreds of them

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and because of cooldown and rune you can't even use it as a mainskill

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i heard

unborn hamlet
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You don't, the skill might as well just be renamed to reowyn's frost guard and cast that as default cos literally everything else the skill does with runes is useless

desert steppe
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I just pretend that class doesn't exist omegalul

short peak
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flame rush feel bad to cast

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and use

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frost wall so conditional

unborn hamlet
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That's just a matter of items and learning

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Same for frost wall

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Frost wall is a core skill for more than 1 build

short peak
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what are known invocation that are good to build around ?

unborn hamlet
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I use both on LB

short peak
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if you can even do it

short peak
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not even hydragon

unborn hamlet
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As I said, skill might as well be renamed to reowyn's frost guard and rune master as a class be deleted

short peak
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it gives so many skills

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many are cool

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im sure

unborn hamlet
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All useless

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Impossible to scale

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Impossible to make viable

short peak
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I guess it make sense they don't have a tree

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like other skills

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so you are stuck with the base version

unborn hamlet
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No, that's just EHG sucking at skill tree making

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They can very easily stuff in skill nodes in runic invo to fix a lot of the issues with the skill

short peak
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and they are so slow when they do something

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idk how they do it

unborn hamlet
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But DW, EHG is cooking 3 new nerfs to mage

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Mage will get all their skills to do 0 dmg so they can promote their new paid class

short peak
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every timle I come back to the game and im like all this time for this

unborn hamlet
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They will call it

short peak
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not saying the update are necessarily bad

unborn hamlet
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Spellslinger

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And it will just be a season 1 pre -nerf mage

short peak
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but 8 months or whathever is a long ass time

unborn hamlet
short peak
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for one mecanic

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the omen is fun

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though

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way better than beast and cemetary

unborn hamlet
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I like omens but

short peak
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i don't want to go in cemetary and beast rift

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I at least don't mind doing omen

unborn hamlet
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Whoever made said omens did 0 play testing on anything

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It's the most atrocious mechanic we gotten by absolute miles

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Everything it drops is useless

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Getting good omen idols is borderline impossible

short peak
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that's the issue of corruption

unborn hamlet
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Getting good altar is borderline impossible

short peak
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in poe it's the same

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we learned slowly that

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getting corrupted items

unborn hamlet
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And not only that

short peak
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sucks ass

unborn hamlet
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They locked new items

short peak
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no way you get a good item already done

unborn hamlet
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Behind impossibly hard to do echo

short peak
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I started to die a lot in omens

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they hard

unborn hamlet
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You don't play S rank meta build?

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Tough luck

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Can't do any of the new shit

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Single omen is at least manageable

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Triple omen is not only a meta build check but also your PC performance check

short peak
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oh it's like poe and the T17

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look at your new super hard map that is way better than anything else

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well we learned not everyone cna do those at a high level

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it's fixed now

unborn hamlet
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Wouldn't be surprised if EHG made it just to check build performances and then nerf everything that's not sentinel or rogue based into oblivion

short peak
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my favorite thing in LE is campaign not that it's amazing but it's a chill time I don''t mind doing it and level up a character

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very comfy

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and gear chase

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improving the gear

unborn hamlet
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That's the part of the game I absolutely hate and that's why I keep playing legacy lmao

short peak
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lol

unborn hamlet
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I already did the campaign blud

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Lemme skip it

short peak
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nah I'd hate this

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it's something about progression

unborn hamlet
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Why do I need to play it 400 times each season, what purpose does it serve

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I understand going to lvl 20 and end of time

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Ok

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But everything after should be an option to skip

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Wanna do it, do it

short peak
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they did it in D4

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and I hate it there also

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the skip

unborn hamlet
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But, let me have the option to skip something I already did hundreds of times

short peak
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hundreds

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damn

unborn hamlet
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Literally just wasting my time and making me more sick of the game

unborn hamlet
short peak
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sad about it

unborn hamlet
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I did it 6 times over the seasons and I'm so sick of the campaign I revolt on the mere thought I have to do it again when the paid classes are out

short peak
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paid classes

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I want to forget

unborn hamlet
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Like I'm gonna be flipping a coin if I even buy them, that's how much I don't wanna see the campaign again

vivid wolf
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@unborn hamlet Hey back in… season 0… Hydrahedron and static orb kind of had viable builds

vivid wolf
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So you know… that’s… 2 of the other invocations…

unborn hamlet
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Static orb is still the main skill for hardcore

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Ok, but let's be real, are they useful now? 😂

vivid wolf
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Some of the other ones loooooook really pretty if you turn down corruption and turn off the numbers that display…

short peak
unborn hamlet
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Also static orb is another love child of enigma

short peak
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like really insane gear

vivid wolf
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Static orb is fun I like that skill

unborn hamlet
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Static orb itself does absolutely nothing

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So I don't count it

vivid wolf
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Fair, but balls

unborn hamlet
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Haha , balls

vivid wolf
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Mmm, yes.

unborn hamlet
short peak
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you can proc it once every 3s with disintegrate

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you forgot this

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which make it viable

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and im jooking

unborn hamlet
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Anyway, I gotta get off the bed , I've been talking here way too long instead of enjoying my only day off between 12 days of working

vivid wolf
short peak
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I remember doing the fire raptor when it came out

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and surprise the most important dmg scaling node didn't work

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and that's when it's supposed to work

vivid wolf
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They could add a node path with the random runes that makes your random invocation do 20x damage and it may still not see play but would be fun

short peak
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other stuff just not even bug they just sucks

desert steppe
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invoker stuff is just tricky to translate to arpg

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you want invocation combos to matter since you go through the trouble to invoke the certain combinations

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but also most of the game is clearing mobs that die in one or two shots anyway

short peak
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tbh invoker is such a bad idea in last epoch

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I can see it work in poe

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but last epoch

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I feel like it's the bad game for it

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how do you make a skill tree for this

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you don't

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so it sucks

vivid wolf
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Runemaster power fantasy is awesome - reminds me of mage wars or whatever that game was…

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Magicka

short peak
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idk what game you talk about but i thought you were summoning a korean P2W mobile game

vivid wolf
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Runemaster reminds me of magicka

short peak
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lol

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I think I don't like last epoch I've got to accept it, it was very fun a few time but i think there is more I don't have fun with than the rest

vivid wolf
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You played a little wizard and could pick from different elements and combos would do different things… like make you a mana shield or shoot chain lightning or freeze enemies

short peak
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everytime I try

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I love cof

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gear progression

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and I find the campaign quite chill

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but that's it

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😔

short peak
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i remember it now

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anyway I need to go eat something

zinc pewter
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whats the best way to farm red rings on cof? just unique rings proph? or maybe farm rune of ascendc ?

unborn hamlet
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ascendance not only u have to spend more favor u also have to pick up trash rings of the ground to ascend and u dont get increased chances for LP from corruption either

vivid wolf
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Was crafting a new LB helmet and got a beautiful t7 corruption on my previous one and now I'm torn 🙁

unborn hamlet
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. for reference Gregory

hybrid girder
silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (85) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,790, Regen: 48/s
▸ Mana: 308.51, Regen: 8.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 192%, Regen: 153/s
▸ Attributes: 113 Str / 60 Dex / 74 Int / 51 Att / 140 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 81% / 84% / 76% / 85% / 24% / 45%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 72%, Threshold: 439
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (422)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (1,032)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 3%

hybrid girder
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pre uber for gloves/relic run boulderfist, hand of judgement or falcon fist and knowledge of the erased mage relic

limber peak
short peak
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@hybrid girderis there any runic invocation you can build around beside hydraegon

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?

hybrid girder
silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 2: Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (20) / Spellblade (14) / Runemaster (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,671, Regen: 35.52/s
▸ Mana: 307.46, Regen: 15.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 391%, Regen: 77/s
▸ Attributes: 160 Str / 22 Dex / 160 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 152% / 89% / 108% / 80% / 114% / 79% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 404
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (334)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,223)
▸ Block Chance: 174%, Mitigation: 46% (1,748)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 101%

short peak
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they all looks cool

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this is criminal

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🥲

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i guess this one got nerfed in my game it looks way slower than the vod

hybrid girder
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there wernt any changes in 1.4 to invocations. i used covenant arc in 1.3 and it could 1 shot julra and normal abberoth and had great clear. the mana tank hydrahedron would be my pick for s4 since its uber viable. i would be tempted to see if stacking 5-6 unvar's rise with crackling glyph/rune shard would be any good

short peak
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so many cool one

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@hybrid girdercan we automate or we are forced to spam 3 shit skills to summon one

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and here I was doing a lightning dmg over time

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gg corrupt

hybrid girder
short peak
hybrid girder
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yeah

short peak
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@hybrid girder on disintegrate there are node to cast static orb, lightningn blast but how do you pair a channeling dmmg over time ability with hitbased one

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so i'm starting to be like is this even a thing ?

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I doubt you can use disintegrate like an utlity skill

short peak
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👀 actually I can just cleart with this and the wand that make me cast static on evade

kindred rune
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hi , I'm wearing the Wings of Discord armor, but it looks like this; I believe it should look different normally. Is this normal ?

sacred kite
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IDK about that one in particular but not all uniques have unique models unfortunately. Something they're working on

kindred rune
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hmm , what should i do ? is there any suggestion ?

hybrid girder
kindred rune
short peak
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Okay m'y build is kinda fixed. I evade which proc a brand dmg over time that is very strong then it also proc static orb which does charges ground another dot. With more shock chance ill be able to clear like this I think

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When I want to do real dmg I do the same but add flame ward glyphe of dominion and disintegrate

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😎

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I need to get more defense and more dmg but its fun to play

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There are lot of ward standing in glyphe, channeling, having runes

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And so on

versed hawk
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Sounds pretty cool. Can you import your profile to LETools and post it?

short peak
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Im going to sleep also idk what im doing and im in third monilith

short peak
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That build is probably trash xD

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,240, Regen: 15.8/s
▸ Mana: 162.8, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 250%, Regen: 228/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 8 Dex / 61 Int / 8 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 107% / 109% / 103% / 129% / 55% / 169%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 39%, Threshold: 248
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (990)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 20%

short peak
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If you wanted to give advice

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Im really just starting

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I have a lot to figure yet

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I was just happy I manages to make it from it feels trash I want to give up to its fun I want to see how where I can go with it

short peak
glad marten
versed hawk
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If you're mostly clearing with GoD, I would highly recommend getting rid of disintegrate. It is just not a very good skill. You won't be able to use it with that setup once you get to empowered monoliths, so you may as well swap it for something useful now. Probably teleport to get you around the map, but up to you.

umbral scroll
desert steppe
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You'd also want some armor, and maybe a bit of health

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Try getting the twisted heart relic, it will also help your survivability

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If you got some cof favor, try getting some extra copies with LP and slam them with a T7 exalted affix. The helm should be easy to get an LP2 one

umbral scroll
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I'll definitely add the Twisted heart to the filter for sure

umbral scroll
desert steppe
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Ouch

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But yeah she does hit really hard

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Tho iirc the tier only limits by the unique item's level, not the exalt's so you should still be able to slam a t7 in.

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I'm not 100% sure tho

umbral scroll
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Yeah, all the legendary pieces I have are from nemesis eggs. I cleared to tier 1 sanctum but it didn't let me use the slam machine thingy

desert steppe
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Ahh right, I think you only get to choose on t2 and up.

desert steppe
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Probably change the dodge one to armor too, since we're not really stacking dodge anyway

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You probably want the crit rate blessing over the crit damage too for now

umbral scroll
desert steppe
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There's an npc at the rightmost of the end of time

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They're also on several other places but I don't remember where exactly

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It's the one just before the entrance to the monoliths

umbral scroll
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I don't have those options on the other two.

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Got the first one changed which I didn't know was there. Lol

hybrid girder
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til: necrotic +spell/+melee is a better affix than +melee fire

desert steppe
spring crag
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@hybrid girder I wonder if covenant arc is stronger than hydraheron

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I tried igneous rain but it cannot even do bossing (let alone farming) due to the aiming difficulty

hybrid girder
spring crag
spring crag
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With idols I think you can stack a lot of armor, dodge and ward

sudden kettle
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Good morning, you guys think this item is worthy of a 3lp ladle?

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I'm at 547% crit multi from my current spoon:

proven haven
silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (8) / Spellblade (84) / Runemaster (1)

General:

▸ Health: 1,417, Regen: 26/s
▸ Mana: 149.51, Regen: 9.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 536%, Regen: 408/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 14 Dex / 177 Int / 8 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 242% / 76% / 142% / 79% / 74% / 76% / 114%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 48%, Threshold: 283
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (193)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 67% (5,601)

short peak
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i think i'm gonna stack a bit of mana

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for dmg of static orb and disintegrate

frozen dirge
short peak
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before I was trying to use disintegrate and GoD all the time

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it felt bad

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now I can just evade and it already deal a big bunch of dmg

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it's comfier

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God is more about passive nice dmg but big boost in defense when I want to anchor down and disintegrate

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I guess i can also drop it on top of my evade for extra clear or a bigger boy

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maybe it's like very inneficient for you

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😔

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im quite happy about this I wanted to build around disintegrate and static orb from the start and I think it's working

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quite nice

short peak
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not sure how to do it

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but im trying to figure it out as I go

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stacking ward

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i'm atr 3K ward, 4k on my glyph even 4K5 while channeling on the glyph

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but obviously wards go down

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when you get hit

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im not sure if I can incorporate some dmg taken as mana

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I can barely sustain static orb

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but i'll see later

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im quite lost about defensive set up yet

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so many possiblities

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or maybe it's fine and I just need to get more ward, some armour

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ohhhh

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nice drop maybe it's good for me

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no idea if penetration is very good in this game

robust junco
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If effectively a More Dmg

short peak
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yo vlad

short peak
robust junco
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You add all your sources of penetration and resistance Shred (not armor shred) together
You get a number, let's say 100%
You get 100% More Dmg

robust junco
short peak
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so since im doing a lightning dot mage

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it's good

robust junco
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Shock "Shred" or remove lightning res

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Penetration does the same, you add the numbers together

short peak
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im really not great at mage

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but im having fun so far

silk pewterBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,240, Regen: 15.8/s
▸ Mana: 162.8, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 250%, Regen: 228/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 8 Dex / 61 Int / 8 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 107% / 109% / 103% / 129% / 55% / 169%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 39%, Threshold: 248
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (990)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 20%

robust junco
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I'll have a look later tonight 😁

short peak
sudden kettle
short peak
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is this a good helmet ? when you do the math it's like 10 ward for 30 resistance

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though right now it seem to be a straight upgrade

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im gonna give it the exalted mod

proven haven
harsh abyss
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And the "Lightning Pen" affixx is a crazy amount of ward/sec if you're going 3x Gon

short peak
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im just using runes as passives

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for ward generation

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even this

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but 57 ward per rune is insane

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👀

harsh abyss
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Yeah, it's very good

robust junco
# short peak thanks bro

I see you got Zerax and Frozen with you
They'll have way better advices than me for your mage 😅

short peak
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I did my first lvl 90 monolith and it's already got corruption ?

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🤔

short peak
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abandonned by my french countrymen

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💀

robust junco
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From what I can see, you aren't taking advantage of the node that gives you More Dmg per max mana

robust junco
robust junco
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I would do that, 21% Inc Dmg isnt that great

short peak
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nice idea

robust junco
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What is your traversal skill ?

short peak
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I use the runic invocation

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to tp if I need

robust junco
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I see

short peak
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I mlight aswell put it to use

robust junco
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I can see Flame Rush being nice here

short peak
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for what reason ?

robust junco
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It would automate Static Orb and Glpyh

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As your traversal

short peak
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ohh

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I cannot :/ runic invocation is giving me good ward

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i think

robust junco
short peak
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so I spec into it

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static orb is automated in my wand

robust junco
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True

short peak
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if I had a sixth slot i would

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because it's a good idea

short peak
# robust junco True

I move around evade => static orb then I Glyph or disintegrate to slay the rest

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on big monster I evade into glyph and flame ward disintegrate

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later on I'll try to get shock chance and more mana hopefully my static orb +

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would be enough for clear trash

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it is in non empowered mono almost

robust junco
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Dont get too spread out

spring crag
robust junco
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Brand is an ailment

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Its doesnt scale with Flat Spell or Inc Spell Dmg for exemple

short peak
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what

robust junco
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And it doesnt scale with Mana

short peak
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ohhh

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anyway all it wants is some shock chance

robust junco
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So you are going to be trying to stack too many things at once

spring crag
short peak
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it felt quite free

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like a shock chance affix on wand

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I doubt it would work on shock chance with skills

robust junco
short peak
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true

robust junco
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Last I checked

short peak
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so I got to empowered mono and I can't do it yet 2 maps 2 deaths

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i'll get bakc in normal one

robust junco
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What do you slam ?
Inc Ele Dot and Mana ?
Mana / Shock ?
Mana/Pen ?

short peak
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elemental damage over time goated mana

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that'"s all

robust junco
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Then you dont really get Shock Chance,

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See where this is going

short peak
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well for a third lp

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would be nice

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can't be too picky right now

robust junco
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But then why not Pen ?

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Yeah sure

short peak
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pen is a prefix right

robust junco
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Nope

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Suffix

short peak
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then penetration

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ele dot mana / shock and pen

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sounds good

robust junco
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Dont get me wrong, its nice too apply the brand because of all the passives
But unless you go all in on it (which is a fine build) I would even consider its dmg

short peak
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it's mostly used for clearing, trying to get the biggest bang for my money for little invesstment

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maybe it would be useless later on

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right now I got destroyed by empowered mono lol

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the switch is always so brutal for me

short peak
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@robust juncocan you think of important uniques I need ?

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I know unique ring that give me ele dmg and res while channeling

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the bone helmet

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im gonna slam it now

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my wand is crucial

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I have a 3 lp potion health to ward unique belt

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im gonna slam it and use it later

desert steppe
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get your blessingsss

short peak
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so I'll try to farm normal one for a bit

robust junco
short peak
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do you really think it's a good unique ?

robust junco
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It has Mana, Flat Spell and make you almost stun immune on a class that generally doesnt have that much hp

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Its a nice start

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I would slam it with Mana or Ele DoT

short peak
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I can slam it and corruption

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or is it too risky

robust junco
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The one you got is really nice too

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I would slam and corrupt

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Worst case scenario > you dont get an upgrade

robust junco
short peak
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yes

robust junco
short peak
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is it good ?

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😎 it seem to be good

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from the reaction

short peak
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it give me dot pen

robust junco
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Yup

robust junco
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3lp is nice too

short peak
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too bad I need shock

robust junco
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Can get %Inc Lightning/%Ele Dot/%Necrotic Res

short peak
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could have been nice

robust junco
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Do you have Lightning Shred somewhere too ?

short peak
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no

robust junco
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And isnt Disintegrate already applying Shock ?

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Then I feel like this is a positive

short peak
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nah because i won't apply shock then

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I need to ramp to apply it

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im forced to use glyph before disintegrate

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also

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don't think it can go together

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I have this

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it would be cool though

short peak
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@robust junco should I usez this mod ?

robust junco
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Meh, it's the kind of mod you want to build your defense around

spring crag
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@proven haven so for ignite meteor

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for general purpose do you recommend using throne of ambition?

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also for mana issue, we must have the weaver affix "chance not to consume potion when using potion" right?

short peak
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i won't last

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im probably gonna die soon

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even if i manage to dodge and tempo a bit

proven haven
# spring crag <@181266504342306817> so for ignite meteor

Throne is fine for ignite but not great for oneshot due to ramp time. Also ignite duration important for oneshot, but not for regular gameplay. Yes you want potion stuff, the idol altar affix seems to be broken though, the one giving bonus weaver with corrupt idol limit

sour basalt
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Bugged mechanics? In last epoch? Savage.

short peak
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@robust junco

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I prefer this ring i think

robust junco
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Nice combo indeed

short peak
unborn hamlet
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The more ward decay threshold you got the slower the ward you generate decays overall meaning you can get higher maximum ward, and also higher baseline ward shield if you're doing nothing

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It's a good stat but not good enough to sacrifice dmg over it,

short peak
unborn hamlet
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You only "paste" it there

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You can't take it out cos you never used the ring to slot it in the first place

short peak
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oh i thought it was gone

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phew

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bad perk of having a messy inventory

unborn hamlet
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Yea you basically just put in a copy of it

sour basalt
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It does disappear for a split second from your inventory if you drag it after opening the weaver tree from inv 😄

desert steppe
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how long has this been like this lol

robust junco
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I feel like that's fine anyway, since you can use the node bottom right

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2/3

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There are a few cases like this
They want you to go one way not the other

desert steppe
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static

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still, why even have the line if it's impossible to go through

robust junco
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You can go through, but not from this side

desert steppe
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ah

unborn hamlet
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It's fine we all do that sometimes

desert steppe
short peak
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what's a heretical idol ?

umbral perch
short peak
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like these

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nice

robust junco
short peak
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@robust juncohttps://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Av9KZ1Kw

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (19) / Runemaster (62)

General:

▸ Health: 1,219, Regen: 18.32/s
▸ Mana: 319.45, Regen: 13.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 262%, Regen: 314/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 3 Dex / 60 Int / 3 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 98% / 97% / 66% / 94% / 70% / 47%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 21%, Threshold: 244
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (61)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,726)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

short peak
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look it's much better now

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😎

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I miss two blessings

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still didn't find an exalted belt to slam on my 3 lp, nor the unique body armour

short peak
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is there any mages that ever tried to use some dodge ?

proven haven
short peak
proven haven
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The staff

short peak
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totally not applicable to me

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I see

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@proven haven thx again for your defenses advices

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iml stacking as many ward per second as I can

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with some treshold and retention

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not crazy but way better

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than before

proven haven
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Dodge mage is possible but there aren't that many synergies. Getting dodge often has high opportunity cost outside some really niche combos

harsh abyss
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The best dodge synergy is channeling with Telfun's Mirage 🤷‍♀️

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Or maybe Foot of the Mountain + Wall of Nothing tech, which I've always wanted to make work

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With the new corruptions, I think you can get over 100% endurance threshold as ward decay threshold

short peak
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and get some retention and treshold

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where i can get those

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if im channeling and standing on glyph of dominion I can get up to 5K7 ward

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if I do nothing 3K2

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100 corruption will be my limit xD

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first time my self made build can do 100 corruption

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😎

harsh abyss
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Hey, next time you come back maybe you'll figure out a few things to tweak and push it further, that's how self building goes.

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Mage defenses are also pretty bad compared to most other classes

short peak
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so far

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maybe you'(ll have a 'you need this unique if you do this"

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kind of idea

harsh abyss
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I dunno why, and someone would have to chekc. I feel like "Damage taken from mana before health" just... doesn't work sometimes. I'll take a big hit that kills me and my mana is still full.

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Yeah, feel free to share in channel here, there are lots of veterans of mage playing here.

short peak
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if you scroll up it's there actually

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i shared it just earlier

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im dumb

harsh abyss
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Ah, I can take a quick look

unborn hamlet
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Also depends on your dmg to mana conversion %

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If you say, convert only 80% from a 10k hit, and you can survive taking 8k to mana, it's fine, but if that 2k that went to your HP is more than the HP you have you die anyway

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Accounting for all dmg reductions

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Just 10k raw dmg

harsh abyss
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Yeah that's the thing. By the numbers I see, which aren't all of them because you just see the last hit, it SHOULDN'T have killed me.

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So it's a bit hard to tell

unborn hamlet
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Reductions are "additive" from the number you received,

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And I don't know the order for that

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Say you take 100k Phys dmg, you reduce by 75% defense, now you take 25k, that you reduce with armour by 60% now you take 11k, then you got -10% from SW, now you take 9.5k and so on

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So the final dmg to you is 9k

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Mana pool of 3k required to mitigate to 0

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Say you got 1k mana

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So you only mitigate 3k

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You got 3k HP

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So you die to overkill of 3k dmg

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Something around these lines

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Then there is endurance and other stuff at play

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Generally speaking you want 60% was it? Endurance for any build you play

short peak
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would I want endurance on my 1K life 5k ward mage ?

unborn hamlet
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You want endurance on everything as I said

short peak
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it felt weird

unborn hamlet
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As much as you can get without sacrificing stats you actually need

short peak
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that's why i wanted to double check

harsh abyss
# short peak maybe you'(ll have a 'you need this unique if you do this"

Okay, here's the first thing I see: You need more mana.

You're stacking lightning Disintegrate, AND Static Orb which both scale with max mana. You need to get something like ~500 mana before that node isn't nerfing your damage. And it's also the BEST source of More damage you can get by stacking.

Things you should look for:
-Grand Idols that give +flat mana / +%mana/armor
-Ornate Idols that are +%mana/armor (10% or higher)
-1x1 weaver idols with affixes that give +mana

Uniques:
-Slam Atrophy with T7 mana
-Get Telfun's Mirage or Foot of the Mountain, slam with +Int or +movespeed (or both)
-Get Stormcarved Testament (Farmable off Lagon), slam with +Disintegrate and/or +Mana (Prefer Disintegrate, etc.
-Unstable Core, Slam with T7 flat spell damage while channeling or +mana
-Orian's Eye (Rare random drop but very good) slammed with T7 mana
-Ignivar's Head is pretty decent if you have ANY amount of crit chance increase. The More damage isn't just more Fire damage, and if you scale your crit up pretty decently it's one of the best damage affixes.

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I'm not sure if your helmet is the best, you might bet better off with a Seed of Ekkidrasil and some %damage taken as mana before health, but I'm not totally sure.

short peak
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👀

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wow

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I like my wand a lot before my build felt like crap but if it's white mob or maybe even blue one I can litterally kill them with evade

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so I incorporated static orb in the build

harsh abyss
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Your wand is totally fine

short peak
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but you're right it works with mana

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both

harsh abyss
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Yeah there's some good synergy there. More mana is your best stat available

short peak
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ignivar head I got a +2

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somewhere

harsh abyss
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Also, since you're a Runemaster, you have access to "Cerulean Runestones" passive, which gives you 30% max mana as endurance threshold, which is gold

short peak
harsh abyss
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Your entire health pool will be covered by your endurance threshold, which if you get max endurance (which you'd get with Foot of the Mountain pretty easy), it's basically 60% less damage taken from your health, more than doubling your health pool if your ward gets chewed through

short peak
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I went runemaster because of

harsh abyss
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Maybe? It's debatable. Glyph of Dominion is a LOT of defense, and extra damage for your disintegrate, yeah

short peak
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and glyph give lot of ward

harsh abyss
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And the RM tree has Brand of Deception and Order's Imposition, which is a lot more DoT damage on the tree

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Sorcerer will get more mana, the RM passive tree has:
8% More
12% More
12% More
7% More, which is a lot combined.

short peak
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I liked these it gives some defense aqgainst lot of little hit

harsh abyss
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Those 4 multipliers are effectively 44% more damage, which is pretty huge actually

short peak
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i was trying to farm those

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lol

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i'll change boots target now

harsh abyss
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Transient rest is also pretty good with mana stacking. 50% current mana every 2 seconds when you have like 3k mana is effectively 750 ward/sec

short peak
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first i need to remake the loot filter and check what the uniques you spoke about

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Idk half of thelm

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shock chance big for brand deception

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100% shock is 600% more brand dmg

harsh abyss
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Also Lighting Penetration is more damage, and there's a lot of mana on the item to start

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It's a good, easily farmable relic

short peak
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I checked when i put atrophy i get 20% more dmg

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eyeballing it

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on tooltip

harsh abyss
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BUT once you get your idols set up with good rolls on the %mana stuff, a good relic for you would be the primal one: Reliquary Nest.
If you have 3 ornate and 2 Grand idols with max rolls, you can get

52% max mana from your idols to start, and Reliquary Nest gives them 60% increased effect, which means you're getting another 31% max mana

short peak
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mana

harsh abyss
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Big mana, especially if you hit a max roll and slap T7 mana on it

short peak
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ik which idols even roll mana%

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i found this with omen I felt it was cracked

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so much ward

harsh abyss
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Grand (3x1) Prefix rolls flat mana, suffix rolls %mana/armor
Ornate (4x1) suffix rolls %mana/armor with a larger roll

short peak
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for now i'll ask for any idol

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with this

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should be good enough

harsh abyss
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Yeah, I highlight that and check every one's rolls and prefixes to see if they're decent

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Best one I've gotten so far this league:

short peak
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wow srong

harsh abyss
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Yeah, if you get a prophesized altar, you'll end up with something that looks kinda like this:

short peak
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I like this affix on bopdy armour

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I wonder if better than mana

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@harsh abyss helmet mana better than static orb level ?

harsh abyss
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Maybe? Kinda unsure, tbh, you'd have to play around with it. Mana buffs both your main skills, which makes me feel like it's better.

short peak
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i just needed to find a good exalted

harsh abyss
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Yeah, gotta find that T7 Ele Dot, and then get good defensive suffixes and lightning damage

short peak
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i was gonna try to get ele dot reduce crit dmg and whatever

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some res I need

harsh abyss
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Another affix you can look for on your relic that's amazing is "all resists while channeling"

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T7 is basically "You don't need resists anywhere else (as long as you're always channeling)"

short peak
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@harsh abyssThank you so much

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I was a bit lost and not sure I should commit to full mana

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I just wanted to get a little bit of it

harsh abyss
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Yeah, since you're using both Sorb and Disintegrate it definitely makes sense to combo them

short peak
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like most important thing I need to use my prophecy on

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I wait to be lvl 10 cof before farming a L1 atrophy

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im hesitating between farming amulet or body armour

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im so motivated let's go

harsh abyss
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Amulet is super rare, so I'd prioritize that one low. Body armor is VERY good, so that's a good option to shoot for

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But idols are where I'd start. They're a pain to farm naturally

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You can drop HUNDREDS of idols and not get a good grand idol with the right prefix, suffix, and good roll.

short peak
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I need to farm cemetary or just prohpecy?

harsh abyss
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Just prophecy for idols I think

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I'd also try to farm exalted for the slots you have the items for already. If you already have a 1lp Atrophy, for example, try and farm exalted gloves to get that T7 mana affix

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Make sure you slot the weaver points for the dungeon mobs to spawn in your monliths. If you do that, you'll get 1-3LP foot of the mountain pretty quick

short peak
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omg there is such a thing

harsh abyss
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Yep

short peak
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no idea what people do in this lol

harsh abyss
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Any time you see the amber elementals, kill them all

short peak
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I just run the to the item slots

harsh abyss
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Here's what mine looks like currently:

short peak
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😮

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i know it's popular

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too bad i don't need

harsh abyss
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Yeah, it's not useful for this build, but it's good for sure.

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Your passive tree looks good mostly. I'd remove everything from Quintessence of Triumph, it's not a very good node. You'll probably also want Decree of the Burning Wind eventually, since that's 1% more damage per point

short peak
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how can this be bad

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I guess im not sure how much hp mobs have

harsh abyss
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If your target has less health than your ward, they're going to die instantly anyway

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That threshold bonus is basically never active when it matters

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If things have that low health, you'll delete them without 7% more damage without any issue

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And plus. For 7 points, you can just get 7% more overall spell damage to everything always with Decree of the Burning Wind

short peak
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for this i would need to put the point in the runic tree

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and get a fire ability on my bar

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which is ine I have one slot useless

harsh abyss
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Nope

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You get the 8% damage, you just don't get the EXTRA 8% damage for having a Rah Rune or Frost Wall passthrough

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You don't need to go for that extra 8%

short peak
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oh I see

short peak
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half the point are good

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the rest it's whatever

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so I can do it

harsh abyss
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Actually, there's some good synergy in the RI tree that you're going to get from mana stacking

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Look at Scrivner's Haste. Every time you gain a rune, you'll get 30% your max mana as ward

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Which is obviously gonna be great

short peak
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nice

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yes I got it already

harsh abyss
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But yeah if you're not too worried about your runes, no reason not to slap a fire skill on your bar

short peak
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let's go

harsh abyss
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12 less ward/sec for 8% more damage is a pretty reasonable tradeoff

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Oh also Rune Slinger gives you 15% current mana as ward when you cast it, so there's more mana stacking synergy

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Man, Runemaster has more mana stacking synergies than Sorcerer, lol

short peak
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whats rune slinger

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oh this point

harsh abyss
short peak
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yeah

harsh abyss
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You already have it

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So if you can get up to 2000 or so mana, that'll be 300 ward every time you cast, and then 600 every time you gain a rune

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Pretty solid

short peak
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i thought rune slinger was a random invocaiton

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that gave me ward

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I know there are many of them

harsh abyss
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you might want to check what invocations happen when you change one of your runes to fire

short peak
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im doing this as we speak

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funy

harsh abyss
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huh, not bad

short peak
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you have two rune invocation

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but idk how you make them works

harsh abyss
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honestly, I just wouldn't worry about them

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Just use RI as your movement skill and whatever happens happens

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Unfortunately with the way that RI works, it's kind of difficult to build around intentionally without using uniques.

short peak
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im rushing the all resistance blessing

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then I can get blessings for items drops

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maybe or do boss farm

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I should start getting atrophy or lagoon

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relic

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the fire relic is good also you said

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I hate this though having this shitty relic

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all fire dmg

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xD

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not asmr at all to put it on me

short peak
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or I slam this one soon

harsh abyss
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There aren't a lot of really amazing ones, but there a few that are decent. For a glyph of dominion + channeling build, Liath is very good

short peak
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well it should

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idk if it ever proc

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it made my travel skill very goated

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to move around

harsh abyss
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Yeah, it proccing the brand is just a nice bonus

short peak
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@harsh abysscazn you show your big omen tablet idol

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or whatever the name is

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I want to know what kind of modifier it has

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my first mana idols ❤️

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got two of them, another 9%

harsh abyss
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The altar itself is junk because it only has one refracted slot, but it's a prophesied

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If you can get a pyramid altar that has "Increased Effect of Suffixes" and/or "Increased effect of prefixes and suffixes" at T7, that's the best thing you can find I think. Maybe also "more omen idol capacity" so you can get truly perfect idols, but GOOOOOOOD luck doing that.

short peak
short peak
rose cobalt
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Innate conduit (Lightning Blast) only disable chain when out of mana or it disable for all cast?

robust junco
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Does proccing Volcanic Orb with the new set ring uses mana ?

vivid wedge
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80% of cost yeah

robust junco
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Ah yeah thx

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Wasn't seeing clearly this morning

whole jackal
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does brutality also affect subskill like icicles from shatterstrike?

robust junco
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Should yes

whole jackal
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so when I use a brutality/madness exulis with cleaver solution and stack STR that should yield quite some dmg no?

desert steppe
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yes, it's just going to be a bit of a pain to get the defenses up

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no armor, no leech, no ward

whole jackal
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well leech would come from sorc tree, no?

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no armor is troublesome admittedly

desert steppe
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brutality will cut down most of your leech

whole jackal
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ah true

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i keep forgetting about that part

desert steppe
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just one of the two seem much more manageable tho

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get damage from one of them and get lots of defense for free from the other

whole jackal
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pieced something together and kinda works

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tested 2 echos on 550 corr and survivability was fine cuz I have screenwide clear

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up to 3m per icicle at dummy

robust junco
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Oo

whole jackal
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I can see some potential here, since we can also use the vilatria set helmet for the spell lightning damage per int

sudden kettle
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It used to be icicle build used frostbite shackles

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The freeze rate+ Ward against frozen

short peak
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@desert steppe bro

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you are one of the enlightened too

desert steppe
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😱

short peak
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the only ones thath ave some taste in reading

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😂

desert steppe
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@_@ what did I do

short peak
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i thought you were reading xianxia too

desert steppe
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oh, I do

short peak
desert steppe
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I love courting death

short peak
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i was going to ask

desert steppe
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🤔

short peak
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me it's Lotm/ fourty milleniums of cultivation/ The herding of gods

short peak
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shadow slave is goated too

desert steppe
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I think of current ones my fave is keyboard immortal

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issth was great too

short peak
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I don't know this one

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I don't like issth anymore

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I prefer all his other novels much more

short peak
desert steppe
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it's the only one I've read so I can't compare them 😄

short peak
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gif not showing

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bad

short peak
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renegade immortal is my favourite

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less humour, very serious

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quite dark

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and is the one that made him famous

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for good reason

desert steppe
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can't read too many stuff at the same time, so issth was my intro to his work

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and everyone said RI was often very depressing so I though, yeah maybe I'll skip

short peak
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nah it's fine

desert steppe
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also I think at that time it was being retranslated or something

short peak
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it's just emotional a time

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solitude of the mc

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but it's not that depressing

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I mean I love it

short peak
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the same one that made ISSTH

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same with A WILL eternal

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peak humour

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imagine issth humour but on steroid

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it's one of my favorite

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too

desert steppe
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👀