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sour basalt
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Of all the stats that they have access to 😄

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Feels like a cheap gimmick like LoN ring set in D3, equip it and it can make any build boosted, but obv. you'll still only use the one that has the most skill-mults.

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@proven haven Watching your vid now, pretty cool tech. Seems that's next on my list for alts 😄

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On the topic of uber-cheesers, I do find some utility in trying to build a char that can kill high-corruption orobysses really fast (or safely).

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This opens up a lot of avenues

full bluff
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Glass cannon here we go again

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220% movement speed, running around with fire auras and orbiting volcanic orbs. hoping nothing hits me 🙂

spring crag
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is there any hope for void volcanic orb to be better than cold volcanic orb?

full bluff
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proven haven
# full bluff Glass cannon here we go again

I always get sad with these really cool items that give a lot of increased damage when we are usually forced to stack int already.

Even if you come up with a super clever strategy it only rewards you with essentially double damage instead of some big more multi

I also hate that its "when hit" and not "on hit"

Love that its providing real value and being used again though, how much effort is getting 25 stacks on SB with your VO?

granite totem
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Any LB demons willing to take a look and tell me what i can do to get less squishy? Using @proven haven build and am starting to stack some damage just want to know what to work on first to be most effective for higher content

proven haven
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Imo armor and cast speed is a big focus if you want survivability.

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And you want instant spark charge detonate

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (21) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (8) / Runemaster (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,604, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 456.61, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 522%, Regen: 82/s
▸ Attributes: 60 Str / 68 Dex / 267 Int / 60 Att / 68 Vit
▸ Resistances: 101% / 58% / 112% / 88% / 93% / 130% / 141%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 321
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (357)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,178)

full bluff
short spoke
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does the spell blade passive flame walker 5 point passive fire pen change to lightning if you took the crackling aura pasive?

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i ask because the incinerating aura passive specifies it changes to lightning if the crackling aura passive is taken

harsh abyss
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It does, yeah. It used to say it with alt-text but maybe that's gone with the tooltip updated

sudden kettle
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@proven haven any reason you aren't using rime on glacier in your bhole build instead of arcane ascendance?

elfin rapids
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But i have a question related to this too: @proven haven, why do you turn on Arcane Ascendance after casting the 2 black holes? Isn't that more damage snapshotted so you have to cast AA before applying the ignites with those BH?

proven haven
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I think I put notes on what snapshot vs not in the sheet

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Basically though it has a cooldown and it roots so I need to be able to avoid laser

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I think you would want to AA before the first combo and only disable it to avoid laser

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But that was mechanically annoying to do and I oneshot without doing it so I didn't

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Oh yes the ignite damage from the spell is based on the damage of the spell when it applied those stacks of ignite but the damage not tied to the spell can change and change the damage of your current ignites

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Eg. If you have black hole deals 100% more damage for 1s, all ignites applied during that second are boost and stay boosted after.

But if you have you deal 100% more damage for 1s the current ignite and i think remaining ignite damage goes up during that 1s

nimble shoal
proven haven
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This isnt the same for focus when I did thay

nimble shoal
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Yeah

proven haven
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But maybe because subskill

nimble shoal
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Focus might behave differently, what part were you testing?

proven haven
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The wave damage

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If I get more damage during channel it changes my hits

nimble shoal
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Yeah, so that probably doesn't snapshot from channel start, kinda like warpath doesn't

proven haven
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But if you have like "your next movement skill deals 40% more damage" it does snapshot

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But not really a snapshot I guess

nimble shoal
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That is very strange behavior, not the norm

proven haven
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In any case, how does this work for ailments applied?

Dont they take your current damage at the time of application? For multis not tied to the skill itself

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Well multis tied to skill arent your character sheet multis

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Eg. Julra ring if I use it after casting bhole it does increase my damage

nimble shoal
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They get their stats passed to them by the skill that applies them, same as a subskill, so all decided at the time the skill was cast

proven haven
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Julra shouldnt work then

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But it does

nimble shoal
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Hmm well, that is very strange

proven haven
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I think bhole casts a new subskill each second or something? But that should inherit too

nimble shoal
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Yeah, I have not tested black hole ailments too much, but there is always the chance they do it in a nonstandard way

proven haven
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But also when I did julra ring with eg. Plasma orb BoD, as long as I casted it during the buff all my BoD was boosted

nimble shoal
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Yeah, that is the normal behavior

proven haven
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I could also be mistaken, there's a lot of shit going on there

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I got the oneshot first try so I didnt really need to tinker

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I think AA is different though because its conditional

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I think conditions come after skill calcs

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Eg. More vs ignited

nimble shoal
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Which effect on AA?

proven haven
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More vs slowed

nimble shoal
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Okay yeah, global conditionals snapshot in a different way. Typically they snapshot the conditional itself, so you need to have that global buff on you when you cast your skill so it has the effect, and then each damage tick it checks the condition to see whether it applies

proven haven
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What so if I dont cast AA before bhole it doesnt gain the slow damage?

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Need to test that

nimble shoal
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Right, assuming bhole does snapshot like a normal skill does

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and also assuming AA snapshots like normal, too

noble reef
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About fire aura : lightning has vilatra option, cold has those ward retention gloves on cold res, what's the strong point of fire?

nimble shoal
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Firestarter torch, fire res is easy to stack and included on a lot of fire aura themed items

robust junco
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Giga synergie with Firebrand

agile sparrow
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you could use firebrand for lightning aura too right

noble reef
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But i'm trying stuff with runemaster and glyph of dominion i don't even use firebrand

agile sparrow
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fire aura with no firebrand?

noble reef
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Yeah

agile sparrow
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how are you triggering the auras

noble reef
agile sparrow
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so you get what 6 stacks every 3 seconds?

noble reef
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Not with the right items

agile sparrow
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are you allowed to have more than 1 glyph of domination at a time?

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i have never used the skill

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because it looks like it takes 0.8 seconds to get to full size, and then you have to increase that by 2 seconds to get to the fire aura node

restive pasture
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sup mages
just wanted to let you know i 'll start my homemade build today, new to mage
will keep you updated 😎

agile sparrow
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so it looks like the skill is giving you 6 stacks every 2.8 seconds

harsh abyss
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You can use Astral Extension to get 2 glyphs at once

full bluff
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Can get 70+ stacks of fire aura with glyph of dominion spam

harsh abyss
agile sparrow
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oh thats much better

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i never even considered playing fire aura anyting other than spellblade thats where all of hte support for it seems to be at least in the tree

harsh abyss
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Yeah, only problem is that stacking it up means you have to be like right on top of the enemies to do damage, which is never good

noble reef
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You get fire aura stacks even when moving and you always moving channeling focus

tall canopy
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Anyone have a screenshot/vid of just how big you can get Fire Aura without sacrificing damage too much?

noble reef
left hill
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assuming you boost suffix and prefix/suffix you can get up to 32% increased idol prefix effect there so up to 137% area overall on idols

nimble shoal
wild nymph
harsh abyss
full bluff
left hill
harsh abyss
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yeah, makes sense

desert steppe
restive pasture
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how does this not kill me?

unborn hamlet
restive pasture
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i dont want to cleanse it

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since i wont get the buff then

unborn hamlet
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u asked why does it not kill u

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i answered

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most effective way is to just leech the dmg it does, but u will eventually hit so many stacks it will onetap you so

noble reef
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about focus channeling using mana guide amulet builds

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i noticed focus get the movement tag so i assume

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2 of those will work

robust junco
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So they deal very little dmg to you

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It can matter early on

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But then you generate a lot of ward on hit

restive pasture
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alrighty

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i just got it and equiped it

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and died lol

proven haven
# noble reef

It won't continuously activate if that's what you are hoping.

noble reef
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no ofc it has a cooldown

left hill
# restive pasture and died lol

Exsanguinous armor makes you bleed-immune at low health and does the whole low-hp ward generation thing. Spellblade passive tree, Shatter Strike tree, and various equipment can give ward per melee attack/ward per hit/ward per second. Make sure you have 75% physical resistance. Get Armor->DOT implicit gloves or experimental gloves affix if needed. etc

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but yeah, switch to it after stacking up your defenses

proven haven
# noble reef no ofc it has a cooldown

but yeah focus will activate this, not sure why you want that though, you need to recast, but you could also just evade on any other build which also activates

restive pasture
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but 75% physical armor will be hard

noble reef
left hill
restive pasture
left hill
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oh. yeah, mourning frost is its own can of worms lol

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I'm doing mine to switch into lightning in part to not deal with that

restive pasture
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but the scaling is so juicy

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you get flat cold + crit + the skills scale with Dex

left hill
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if I can get the gear I'm intending I'll have tons of flat anyway so idc lol

restive pasture
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i ll have around 300-400 flat in my planer

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but idk how good the build will be

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didnt looked at any guides or stuff

left hill
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ya, my target flat is 458 so 🤷

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but i'm a long ways off from that still

restive pasture
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i m lv 70 rn 😭

left hill
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70-90 are fairly quick, 90-95 not bad. 95-100 is a bit more grindy

restive pasture
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btw, do you know a small setup for huge health regeneration?

left hill
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idk for "huge". but Grand Rhythm of the Tide gives 12-20 flat regen + 120-200% increased regen for 1 blessing slot

restive pasture
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oh true that helps

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just need to look for some mana affixes then

restive pasture
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ok but how do i get enough mana regen for this? xd

summer galleon
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mana strike

restive pasture
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i dont plan on using that 😭

summer galleon
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tough luck

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you can do the fire aura on melee hit regaining mana doubt it will be enough

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or burst focus

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but still doubt it will be enuf

restive pasture
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can one get two experimental affixes on belt?

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then i could get mana regen on potion use

strange needle
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Since base mana regen doesn't increase ,mana regen its pretty much meh

restive pasture
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i figured

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might just not take the nodes then

strange needle
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Mana strike what people used idk if its same still

restive pasture
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but there is no way to automate mana strike or?

strange needle
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No you havr to manually use it

restive pasture
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ya that sucks

harsh abyss
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I wonder if a butchers crown could sustain shatter strike mana cost

left hill
restive pasture
restive pasture
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and i liked my build so far only having one mobility and one attack skill

left hill
restive pasture
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maybe i can figure out some stuff with a macro

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i play on wasd thats why

summer galleon
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not a skill fr

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you can just press it every 3 seconds while not even removing your finger from shatter

restive pasture
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do i need to aim it?

agile sparrow
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aim is the only issue with manastrike

summer galleon
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kinda? usually you do it mid shatter since shatter isnt one to insta kill

agile sparrow
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its a super small range

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compared to shatter strike

restive pasture
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but you can go ranged manastrike

agile sparrow
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and get 80% less mana

restive pasture
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istn that more reliable then?

agile sparrow
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but then it does not need to be aimed

summer galleon
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yes but you need to press it 3x more often

agile sparrow
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but you hvae to cast it 5x as much

summer galleon
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or that

restive pasture
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is this a thing?

summer galleon
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I found mana strike to be better with orb giving you basically two instances of semi bursts

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well cdr is an issue

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shatter strike eats your mana in 1 second

agile sparrow
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very dependant on waht weapon you are using

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120% increased area on a dagger attackrange is basically nothing and you need to invest in CDR to keep mana up

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on a 2hander with a slow attackspeed you might be able to both use the area and make it work

restive pasture
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ok i put manastrike on a macro with my surge

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maybe that will do something

agile sparrow
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manastrike after surge is a good call

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idk about macros

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honestly the only time manastrike really felt bad to use was the new vision of observer fight (fractured prison) because they guy kept teleporting away or standing inside a puddle on the ground where i couldn't get it in range

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otherwise it felt fine once I got used to it

nimble shoal
restive pasture
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and for mapping?

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i dont always have a enemy in front of me

nimble shoal
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You might not need it while mapping since you aren't spamming nonstop, but you can still use it of course

agile sparrow
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in general mana management is different while mapping because things like movespeed start mattering more than attackspeed for how much mana you are spending per second

restive pasture
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maybe this with lighting res stacking

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but then you would need low life setup via corruption runes ig

agile sparrow
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its also awkward because you dont really use str or attunement

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unlesss you go brutality

restive pasture
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oh, i use strenght

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lol

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thats fine

agile sparrow
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i found brutality was a lot better for fame reave than shatter strike

restive pasture
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and attunment is just some mana

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so at least not useless

agile sparrow
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actually it probably works for both if you are using fangs i hadn't discovered that tech yet

strange needle
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It would suck for mapping though having the 2 conversions

restive pasture
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if you get something like this

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and you can get the corruption on gloves too i think

agile sparrow
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if you really want lighting pen you could just use BBOC

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and stack dex

restive pasture
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i play cold build tho

agile sparrow
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ohh but you can use firebrand for a ton of lightnign res

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wait cold SS??

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thats a thing?

restive pasture
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idk

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first time playing mage

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havent looked at anything xd

agile sparrow
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the 64% more hit damage aginst enemies with 10 shock stacks is just too strong

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this one

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combined with this

restive pasture
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🤷‍♂️

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i ll try cold xd

agile sparrow
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good luck

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if you want to try lightning res stacking you could try firebrand

restive pasture
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but would be a skill i need to use again

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😭

agile sparrow
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well its not that bad to keep 10 stacks up

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firebrand has a lot of range with high stack count you only need to cast it once every 5 seconds

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and it has very generous auto targeting

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and its 400% lightning res

restive pasture
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but it's not passive 😭

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i ll just try to get lightning res on my gear

strange needle
agile sparrow
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what do you mean

strange needle
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Cold shatter strike it was the meta now you have lightning one

agile sparrow
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ohh

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like before this patch

strange needle
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You get a ton of flat anyway with mourningfrost likr old shatter strike could do uber really fast

agile sparrow
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i can see that

restive pasture
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i m going for a entwined legends build with cold shatter strike

tall canopy
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What's the go-to defense strat for spellblades?

agile sparrow
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uhhh

strange needle
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A bit of everything

agile sparrow
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ward on hit helps a bit along with bladeward in the tree

strange needle
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Ward,hp,evasion

agile sparrow
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or w/e the spellbalde reduced damage taken thing is

strange needle
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Armor

agile sparrow
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oh also make sure you have leech

tall canopy
agile sparrow
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a bit of everything is actually really strong though

tall canopy
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It's usually so much more focused

strange needle
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The whole class should just be focused about ward and evasion

strange needle
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Rogue gets more ehp than any of us by focusing on dodge and ward

agile sparrow
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rogue cheats

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idk how 200 ward on attack is a fair stat on armor

strange needle
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True

agile sparrow
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when spellblade gets like 25 ward on hit and is happy for it

strange needle
agile sparrow
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true

strange needle
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I use on helmet as example

agile sparrow
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i was thinking per affix

strange needle
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To be honest I looked at new spellblade for dodge and seem kinda meh since its capped

agile sparrow
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i played a lot of flame reave this seaosn and i was kept alive with a combination of less damage taken (tree + red rings + shattered worlds eventualy) and leech

tall canopy
agile sparrow
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stacked roughly 100 dex/int which gave some dodge and some ward per second

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and the tree has some ward on hit

agile sparrow
tall canopy
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That Dodge cap is so low it's insulting

agile sparrow
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feels so bad to use

strange needle
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Does this cap at 100 int or like 100 flat dodge?

agile sparrow
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and what does the +2 mean

strange needle
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Cause like wtf either way

tall canopy
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2 dodge per 1 int

strange needle
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So like 3 dusk shroud already give more dodge

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I think you just go armor ward hp and ignore dodge all together ,unless you mega stack dex ,then ignore armor

restive pasture
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is zhp a thing here? xd

strange needle
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Isn't mage zhp always 🤣

restive pasture
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idk

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first time on mage

strange needle
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I joke around its not that bad haven't main mage in a while

proven haven
strange needle
agile sparrow
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i dont think mage has the range for true ZHP like balista does

proven haven
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You mean the dodge and guaranteed dodge

agile sparrow
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well yeah nothing compares to silver shroud

strange needle
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That ballista build one day is gonna get humbled when silver shroud disappears

proven haven
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That alone completely changes zhp

strange needle
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Although ehg loves rogue so not gonna happen

restive pasture
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but not the marksman player

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just so you know

agile sparrow
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TBH if i was going to gamble on any defensive layers getting nerfed its firebraned taking a hit before any rogue defense layer is touched

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750 falt armor is just too strong for EHG to allow

proven haven
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Watch them nerf mana guide defense xd

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Ah rogue is generating a lot of ward, better nerf ward builds, sorry mage

left hill
# restive pasture is this a thing?

yes, can work very well.

people are right the tiny area of mana strike is an issue, but the cooldown node works well since you want some cooldown recovery for enchant weapon (and flame ward ig) and traversal skill anyway

restive pasture
left hill
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urzil is not going to sustain shatter strike fully but you do you 😅

proven haven
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Also just doing a bit of math here. 1 mana regen per 2 lightning resist means a T7 lightning resist is giving less than 40% increased mana regen. That's an entire t7 affix and body armour for around 4 mana per second

restive pasture
restive pasture
left hill
proven haven
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If you do that you will solve mana but completely ruin your build

proven haven
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Well on the plus side you can pivot to fire aura once it doesn't work xdd

restive pasture
agile sparrow
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is fire aura even enough to sustain shatter strike? I feel like it kind of needs mana strike

agile sparrow
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or do you mean pivot to fire aura becuase he stacked lightnig res

left hill
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I think they mean pivot to FA build

thorny trench
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Hey , I’ve got a weird issue with Runemaster in Last Epoch.
I’m using 3 different skills (cold, fire, cold), but I always end up getting only cold runes no matter what I cast.
Even my fire skill shows fire damage, but it still gives me cold rune.
I checked my passives and skill trees but I can’t figure out why everything turns into cold runes.
Am I missing something about how rune generation works or is this a bug?
@proven haven
Following your Runemaster build, but all my skills (even fire) only generate cold runes.
Am I missing something or is this a mechanic change/bug?

nimble shoal
thorny trench
spring crag
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hmm

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so in the end

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is glacier+volcanic orb the only good cold sorc build?

green crystal
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are there any good mana guide builds this season? I tried it last time and it seemes fun but I never did gear it up

strange needle
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You can try all the ones that frozen did last season and you can adapt it to this season with some tweaks,

green crystal
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I spose I'll just try it, rogue hasn't really been turnin my crank

vivid wedge
thorny trench
unborn hamlet
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It's most likely just wrong order of skills on your skill bar if you have them correctly converted

vivid wedge
vivid wedge
unborn hamlet
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It's either wrong or double converted, or wrong skill order on the hotbar that's all

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (21) / Spellblade (1) / Runemaster (39)

General:

▸ Health: 1,082, Regen: 28.22/s
▸ Mana: 221.87, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 250%, Regen: 29/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 20 Dex / 105 Int / 15 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 57% / 38% / 94% / 36% / 107% / 69% / 67%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 216
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (80)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (536)

thorny trench
unborn hamlet
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Screenshot your skill bar ingame ..

vivid wedge
thorny trench
vivid wedge
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your idols need a little adjustment 😉

unborn hamlet
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Oh lmao

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Bro is trolling himself with an idol

vivid wedge
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what's happening is your skills and skill bar are fine, but that idol is making it so once you gain a cold rune, ALL your remaining runes are cold

unborn hamlet
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^

vivid wedge
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so take off that one (and the other unique one, actually) and try again

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RI is more a utility + ward gen skill than a damage one in this build

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doing 33% more damage off a skill that isn't doing any damage is less helpful than something that gives you lightning pen or something

unborn hamlet
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RI is dead as a DPS skill since S1 actually

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And the only way to make it work is to have insane LP gear 😂

thorny trench
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Yeah, I didn’t read it carefully and just added it for the perceived damage boost. Rookie mistake on my part.

unborn hamlet
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There you to

vivid wedge
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heck yeah

unborn hamlet
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also runebolt is meh I don't agree with frozen on that one

vivid wedge
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feels like a min-max skill but I have been looking more at teleport + static

unborn hamlet
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Flame rush all the way

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Free frenzy is free frenzy

vivid wedge
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I kinda hate RI until you get enough cdr / enough int to make it not suck

unborn hamlet
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More cast speed = more damage

vivid wedge
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channeled skills make me insane and it's a dash more than a blink

strange needle
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Yo comfy you enjoying that weaver set being bugged

unborn hamlet
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I haven't been online last 2 days actually

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Was watching Frieren season 2 before work

strange needle
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Haha well the 50% applies to all uniques on off hand and mainhand

thorny trench
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“I took it mainly for the teleport and the extra barrier.”

strange needle
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So your catalyst applies 50% to everything slammed

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Same for weapons no need to be weaver ones

thorny trench
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Its main job was to get me out of the pack and give me a barrier — up until recently it was doing that job fine 🙂

unborn hamlet
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I'm not sure I'm following

strange needle
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I tested it my self rofl

unborn hamlet
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So my entwine ring giving spoon some extra DMG?

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Since when is it bugged?

strange needle
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Weaver set says 50% increased effect to legendary sffix on weaver weapons but this is not true

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It applies to every unique affix that you have slammed on your weapon and offhand

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A quiver,a shield ,every single slammed affix gets boosted by 50%

unborn hamlet
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I get that were getting some free dmg

strange needle
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Yep

unborn hamlet
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But is it long time bug or since this patch

strange needle
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Rive foe cleaver gets boosted by this by a lot too rofl

unborn hamlet
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Cos if this gets fixed and my DMG goes to shit I might just quit fr 😂

strange needle
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No wonder rogues one shooting ez too

unborn hamlet
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Is it new bug since patch or persisting bug

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That's what I want to know

strange needle
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I tried on quiver shields ,on gear outside it doesn't work like body armour but ysah free stats and damage

strange needle
unborn hamlet
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Ok so all you told me is to expect a big nerf again

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Once they fix it

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Time to jump off a bridge

strange needle
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If they doGregory

unborn hamlet
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They will

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You know mages need to get nerfed

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Every chance they get

strange needle
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Udgard told me I tried it and yeah kinda baffling

unborn hamlet
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Yeaaaaaaah so maybe don't talk about it in public 😂

strange needle
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The fact that a shield gets boosted is weird since it shouldn't count as weapon

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Maybe its coded to count your 2 hands 😅

unborn hamlet
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Cos all you told me is to expect to lose 60%+ cast speed and 40%+ crit multi effectively telling me I'll get crippled when it's fixed

strange needle
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If you ever see something different now you know rofl

unborn hamlet
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Probably was better off not knowing this

barren cosmos
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I have some weird interaction with Glyph of Dominion and Flame Rush and I do not know why. When I cast Glyph my Flame Rush is on cooldown and again on cooldown when the glyph ends. Anyone know why?

spring crag
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@proven haven for a brand of deception that is triggered from runic invocation skill, does it inherit anything from "lightning pen for runic invocation"?

full bluff
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Now I wish I had saved all those volcanic orb set rings that dropped last weeks

south yoke
kindred oxide
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thats craaaazy

strange needle
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Gotta love this season bugs eh boysGregory

kindred oxide
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yeah that's insane

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do you know if it also counts towards corrupted affixes? those count as legendary affixes too, right?

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because it does for gauntlet of strife

strange needle
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Cause I checked

kindred oxide
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if not, i'm gonna file a bug report that their bug isn't all encompassing

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okay

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jk btw

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but yeah that needs to be fixed LOL

strange needle
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Someone already reported this ,?not me though

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Keep it ,they need t fix other stuff first

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You can get mark of death on shield as corruption but it applies that to enemies and yourself so a -25 all res to you and enemies🥲

full bluff
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hehe that explains the 20% void pen I couldnt figure out where came from

severe cedar
proven haven
# severe cedar

Sure, you could try the runebolt version, I find it much easier than the slow foot of the mountain + glacier

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+30 ms helps a lot

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gear is not the problem though

severe cedar
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yeah i know it has to be my skill issue

proven haven
silk pewterBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (62)

General:

▸ Health: 2,561, Regen: 36.23/s
▸ Mana: 332.2, Regen: 12.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 507%, Regen: 81/s
▸ Attributes: 52 Str / 44 Dex / 217 Int / 36 Att / 44 Vit
▸ Resistances: 81% / 89% / 83% / 79% / 67% / 104% / 87%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 48%, Threshold: 512
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (307)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,621)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 116%

unborn hamlet
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this runebolt propaganda

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can u at least explain to me why is that your choice? 😂

proven haven
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plus I dont give up 30% ms

unborn hamlet
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@severe cedar

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this is good,

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the shock chance is useless to this build since u get so much from just the set effect

proven haven
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oh god yeah, the whole reason to use 1x3 is the cast speed, good catch

unborn hamlet
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i would get better altar , u dont need omen slots if u dont have good omens to fill them

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im using 1 omen slot pyramid until i find more good omen idols

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cos more suffix/prefix boost is better than using half good omen idols

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the chance to cast LB when u get hit is also kinda useless, your idols definitely need a lot of work

proven haven
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you also dont need t6 shred

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should be capped with just ladle

unborn hamlet
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other than that your gear is good enough to wipe uber , just need some practice on the boss i guess

proven haven
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Oh... blessings are rip

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hold on

harsh abyss
#

@proven haven I was thinking about the thing we talked about using Wildfire with Black Hole and ran into some problems: it means you can't use the Invoker set, which means you lose a bunch of spell levels, so that got me thinking about other synergies:

Ele Nova, which we were talking about: If you use Crest of Unity, the 1% pen per 10% ele resist. If you're stacking fire resist and ele resist, you're probably going to be in the realm of 150% penetration or more.

Glyph of Dominion: 1 Ward/sec per 5% resist while standing on it, which means somewhere like 300 ward/sec, or possibly significantly more. PLUS the fire conversion for Glyph gets 1% increased application speed per ignite chance. So if you're sitting at 800ish% ignite chance, that means you're getting 16 applications of 3 ignites per second.

So I started thinking: Gordian Prism Ele Nova Runemaster? I Don't think it'd be close to the Black Hole build, but might be decent: ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7GrZjWg (just threw it together real quick)

proven haven
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get double armour blessing

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get all res blessing

unborn hamlet
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dear lawd i didnt even look at the blessings 😂

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@proven haven for mana i use orian belt potions, i use flame rush for free frenzy

proven haven
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it the potion reliable enough?

unborn hamlet
#
  • free out of jail card in bad situations
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well maybe not by itself, but my belt has cracked corruption

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but u can get it as experiment too

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mana gain on potion use

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i chug a pot for 100+ mana

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i dont use the effect of the boots standing still pretty much never, only during certain phases of uber

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much less pain during monos too

proven haven
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pls tell me you use blood swap for monos tho, no?

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foot on monos is ooof

unborn hamlet
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i dont

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since i dont have mana issues

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my foots

proven haven
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35% foots < 70% ms bloods groleshades

unborn hamlet
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maybe when u dont have traversal skill 😂

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my flame rush is 1.6s CD

proven haven
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hm

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maybe

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yea idk, id have to try it

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i guess flame rush is probably almost instant with that much CS

unborn hamlet
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if i bombrush the echo goal, like kill a boss or seal a gate, if i go directly to it it takes me like 15 seconds per monolith

proven haven
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or was it MS it scaled with, I forget

unborn hamlet
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i only have 79% MS

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all i know is that its on 1.6s cooldown

proven haven
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does flame rush cancel foot buff?

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i assume it does

unborn hamlet
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yea it does

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im sure my set up only works cos i have the exact stuff i need it to work that way

harsh abyss
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Also if you're using weaver neck, foot swap might be a pain because it could drop you a skill point on all skills

unborn hamlet
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im closer to +5 than i am dropping a point, so its not an issue for me 😂

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i tried to calc all the stats i could gain from better gear tho i would still be short like 35 points so i dont think +5 is possible

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actually, if i were to doublestack stats on 2LP entwined, it might just be possible 🧐

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and on relic too

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options options 😂

severe cedar
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damn idols are hard to comeby huh

sudden sinew
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Are there any meteor builds that aren't too hard to put together that can kill uberoth? I'm kind of interested in dropping big rocks to clear the screen that can still hopefully manage Pinnacle bosses

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Or any fun builds that don't rely on melee or spark charges?

kindred oxide
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yeah this build looks really fun lol.

full bluff
boreal trail
silk pewterBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (26) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (62)

General:

▸ Health: 2,051, Regen: 21.4/s
▸ Mana: 397.43, Regen: 11.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 456%, Regen: 45/s
▸ Attributes: 51 Str / 56 Dex / 209 Int / 35 Att / 43 Vit
▸ Resistances: 99% / 60% / 114% / 95% / 90% / 122% / 159%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 410
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (282)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 61% (4,608)

boreal trail
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still struggling to beat uber aberroth, is there something i should chase or do i just have a skill issue?

edgy sage
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Gear looks decent enough on first glance

boreal trail
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yeah thought so too, maybe its just me playing bad

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i guess i could be getting a better belt

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its not gonna make a huge diff tho

edgy sage
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Was is it that you struggle with?

boreal trail
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uber aberroth just taking a while to kill and that makes it hard to stay alive

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occasionally run out of mana but not too often

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usually when i have to stutter step it eats into my supply because mountain boots do not activate

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although to be fair i have made several upgrades since my last attempts

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the 2LP body, the +4 helmet (had +3 before) and the gloves

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also some of the corrupts (like the dex ones which arent that useful but still)

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i could try getting a catalyst with more DPS but then i would lack more res

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res is hard to fix atm

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maybe i will just do more attempts

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i have also been trying to perfect more of the blessings but luck wasnt on my side

edgy sage
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You can check Raxx video of his uber kill if you want to see what gear he did it with

boreal trail
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was it on this build?

edgy sage
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Yeah

boreal trail
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okay i will take a look

boreal trail
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okay i have a skill issue

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that must be it

edgy sage
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Might be, on the non-insta phasing builds you kinda need to just know the fight to make it

boreal trail
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i will just try to learn and beat it

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i keep dying to weak and worthless because i shield half a second too late ugh

unborn hamlet
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i had troubles too but once i learned a pattern how to move in the fight its pretty trivial, since he almost always does the same skill rotation if u have the same dmg

boreal trail
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stutter stepping destroys my mana pool and then i no longer deal damage

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and ground dots are very deadly

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i did it

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that was rough

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but hey

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lesson learned

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no shattered worlds sadly

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but i gotta upgrade my belt

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the mana issues are the main problem for me in this

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and farming orian isnt hard at all

edgy sage
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gz

boreal trail
#

POV: orian gets bullied

full bluff
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2/3 of void verison

boreal trail
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enough bullying

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for now

unborn hamlet
# boreal trail

didnt even invite a fellow mage to the grind for more belts

boreal trail
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i didnt even know tbh i never grouped with anyone in this game

full bluff
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I have 142 seeker echos ... for that last attempt at perfect belt 🙂

boreal trail
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i am not even really hunting for anything that crazy

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i just want crit res and experimental mana regen

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missed like 3 slams in the past sadly

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but if i can land a few i am definitely corrupting

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ideally i get a res mod or movespeed on potion use

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my cold res is still lacking

full bluff
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I am looking for that t7 move speed on potion for weeks

unborn hamlet
full bluff
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free belts 🙂

unborn hamlet
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all good. if im around i defo want to tag along for some belts, need more fodder for 20ints , nemesis and turtle

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didnt manage to get 3LP so far

boreal trail
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threw all the 1LP belts in farsight turtle and not even 1 upgraded

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bleh

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but whatever i still have the 5 2LP belts i found directly

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i think i am just gonna accept 2LP then try to corrupt

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no need to get too ambitious for my own good

unborn hamlet
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i only work with 20int belts

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so i first go to strife and roll down everything

strange needle
#

You should group up for this kind of stuff ,game its a lot more enjoyable with people because we all share the pain of the grind😅 ,and the other person can do same thing for you so its a win win scenario

unborn hamlet
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i mean i always invite people to run horizons, prisons , towers, veils, rampant coasts, whatever i happen to put a lot down of, but rarely someone takes up the offer 😔

strange needle
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I honestly i got like 250 rampant coast ,150 of the belt orian guy , same for brews, and the helmet echo whenever I set them up I ll invite you

unborn hamlet
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thanks

boreal trail
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i missed all slams

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😔

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maybe its time to make another char

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i am getting sick of this

full bluff
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Try make something else for a while, then come back to it

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If you are as crazy as some of us, you won't give up 🙂

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few 100 attempts later

strange needle
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You can do it ,keep going if you are not as strict as some of us are on gear ,although feels crap making alts right now

boreal trail
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a spark of hope

crude saddle
boreal trail
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but i can also corrupt it after

unborn hamlet
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2LP on twisted is not too horrible to get, specially if u load up on 1LPs and visit the turtle

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just fire away cowboy

boreal trail
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it has been horrible

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trust me

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😄

unborn hamlet
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u just need to believe in the heart of the cards

boreal trail
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yeah i know i am a bit of an idiot myself

unborn hamlet
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btw for LB i recommend getting another 3x1 idol instead of the 2x2

boreal trail
boreal trail
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i guess its not terrible?

unborn hamlet
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because its free frenzy

boreal trail
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i have about 50 str

unborn hamlet
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this way u make use of every refract slot

boreal trail
unborn hamlet
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the new one is better

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we dont need dex

boreal trail
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-4 str

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but its okay

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yeah

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the life regen might actually help a decent amount

unborn hamlet
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ever since i swapped to this i cant even look at twisted heart 😂

boreal trail
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the guide says twisted heart is still better for ward sustain

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but if i get shattered worlds i will probably use it on another char

unborn hamlet
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having 1 - 2k extra ward in high corruption makes no real difference

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u either take no dmg or u get onetapped eitherway

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the 9% DR is much more important

boreal trail
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i want to use those

unborn hamlet
#
  • perma haste is a huge QoL
boreal trail
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wait i just realized corrupting bad legendary omnis has potential

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the maxroll corruption is crazy here

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especially for leveling alts

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rip

spark vector
unborn hamlet
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yea but so is corrupting the abby amulet

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forgot its name

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maxroll on that is crazy too

boreal trail
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nihilis

spark vector
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I think Shattered offers way more damage though

unborn hamlet
boreal trail
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sure does

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well what is broken now

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what can i go next

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i kinda want more clearspeed

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clearing with lightning blast sucks

spark vector
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On a mage or any class?

boreal trail
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any class

unborn hamlet
#

do we really need to talk about voidknights needing to stack only 1 thing on every item to have everything?

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because their passive and skill trees are loaded?

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unlike mage?

boreal trail
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i played mana stacker void knight with erasing strike before

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was crazy good

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but i dont wanna play the same build again

unborn hamlet
#

paladins being near immortal?

spark vector
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Shadow Cascade is pretty good clear

unborn hamlet
#

rogues existing?

spark vector
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Bladedance too

unborn hamlet
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falconers doing 100k+ corruption since season 1 without ever getting nerfed?

spark vector
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Ballista just off screens everything if you don't mind being crazy squishy XD

unborn hamlet
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but noooo, we need another 7 nerfs to every mage build that is just slightly showing potential with insane gear

boreal trail
boreal trail
spark vector
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Shield Throw VK is pretty chill and fast clearing too

boreal trail
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makes my hand hurt

boreal trail
spark vector
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Warpath is usually my go to

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Always loved that WW Barb gameplay XD

unborn hamlet
#

u can try flay lich, apparently thats the new cool thing around the block

spark vector
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It was all the rage last season

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Not a fan of Lich myself

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I find Reaper Form really annoying

boreal trail
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well i happen to have immortal vise 2x 😄

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same

spark vector
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Shadow Rend Bladedancer is another option too if you want a close to PoE level build

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In otherwords, unable to see your sceen XD

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Just explosions and procs everywhere

unborn hamlet
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i dont recommend

boreal trail
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sounds spicy

unborn hamlet
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unless u have NASA computer

spark vector
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I do have a NASA PC and I highly recommend

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😄

boreal trail
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i dont

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my computer is decent but not amazing

spark vector
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What CPU do you have?

boreal trail
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lemme check

spark vector
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If it's fairly recent you should be fine

boreal trail
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i dont wanna farm more legends entwined though

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ugh

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wait what is exulis

spark vector
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Amulet from the new Woven Echo

boreal trail
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from uber observer?

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right okay

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the boss himself is easy af but the echo to get him UGH

spark vector
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That's the one, yeah

boreal trail
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i beat him first try earlier

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felt very similar to shade of orobyss

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just has the omen guys with him

unborn hamlet
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its basically just a shade fight omens making him invurnerable , iirc u gotta kill him once, (down to 20%) then kill 5 omens, then he heals to full, and kill him from full again

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sounds like pain but any strong build does this in like 15 seconds

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as long as he doesnt use the annoying teleport skill its fine

boreal trail
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i bursted them all down

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just looking through some builds rn

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abom could be fun but maybe clunky

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anurok build seems very doable with the items i have rn

unborn hamlet
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back in s1 i decided to play a char till i GG the game with it

boreal trail
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well i have technically done that with my mage now

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i did beat 1 uber

unborn hamlet
#

used to be frostclaw RM , tho my PC broke and i only recently came back, they nerfed the build to the ground where it was barely possible to kill normal abby with it, could forget ubber

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so i swapped to LB

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by GG i mean gear so good there is no improvements to be made left

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at least not in the realms of possibility

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cos i know stuff like 4LP core is basically impossible

boreal trail
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i am hitting that point where any upgrade is very unlikely

silk pewterBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (26) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (62)

General:

▸ Health: 2,083, Regen: 64.32/s
▸ Mana: 397.43, Regen: 11.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 456%, Regen: 45/s
▸ Attributes: 47 Str / 50 Dex / 209 Int / 35 Att / 43 Vit
▸ Resistances: 116% / 60% / 114% / 95% / 90% / 122% / 159%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 417
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (228)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,403)

boreal trail
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this is my char now

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some items like the body are already very lucky

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i know my 3 set exalts are mid

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but farming for those slots is a pain

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maybe i go flay

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i have all the parts

strange needle
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Mana flay is great lots of fun

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Most fun build of 1.3

boreal trail
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cant wait to kill regular aberroth 80 times to farm nihilis

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💀

unborn hamlet
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but i get it

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wanna play more builds is valid enjoyment of the game

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i just enjoy minmaxing

silk pewterBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Mage (21) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (8) / Runemaster (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,604, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 456.61, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 522%, Regen: 82/s
▸ Attributes: 60 Str / 68 Dex / 267 Int / 60 Att / 68 Vit
▸ Resistances: 101% / 58% / 112% / 88% / 93% / 130% / 141%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 321
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (357)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,178)

unborn hamlet
#

my planner

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i got 3LP foots few days ago, from turtle at maxrolls, tho i missed my best outcome slam, and the corruption was absolutely useless, so my 2LP ones are sadly far better

boreal trail
#

yeah your build is a bit better than mine

unborn hamlet
#

well since they killed imprints its pretty much just suck off nemesis

boreal trail
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2LP shattered is obviously crazy

unborn hamlet
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but i believe with CoF rework next season it will be better

boreal trail
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hopefully

unborn hamlet
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my to do list is to get 4LP laddle finally and corrupt it

boreal trail
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one of my main issues with last epoch is endgame feeling like you just run into a wall and i understand its hard to fix

unborn hamlet
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my slam item is not the best it could be but i lost hope for any triple T7 wand

boreal trail
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and i kinda rob myself of early game when i rush through it with meta builds

unborn hamlet
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i hate early game in this game

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especially the forced campaing playtrough

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like bro i finished it multiple times, where is my skip button?

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i understand the need to go till lvl 20ish to get to the end of time

boreal trail
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its not entirely forced tho

unborn hamlet
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but after that it should just be a skip button for the rest

boreal trail
#

poe forces it way more

unborn hamlet
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yea but i still have to go out of my way to do it to get all passive and idol slots

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and to finish it for +1 stats

boreal trail
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oh right something i noticed

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apparently set items cannot get corrupt mods?

unborn hamlet
unborn hamlet
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they just get rerolled into random reforged item

boreal trail
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oh ugh

unborn hamlet
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thats how i got the helmet u see

boreal trail
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i guess the max rolled corruption is best in slot then

unborn hamlet
#

thats a random corrupted set item

boreal trail
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oh lol

unborn hamlet
#

hell would need to freeze over to craft that by hand

boreal trail
nimble shoal
unborn hamlet
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it gains random corrupt stat

nimble shoal
#

It does not

unborn hamlet
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and that forces the item to reroll into random reforge item

nimble shoal
#

It can reforge, makes it totally different

left hill
unborn hamlet
#

fundamentally no

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it gaining the corrupted affix is what forces the reroll into reforged item

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because the set item itself cant gain the affix

nimble shoal
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Reforging is just an outcome for set corruption, there has been a lot of confusion about whether sets can get a corrupted affix, and they just can't

unborn hamlet
#

this will 100% get changed/nerfed next season for sure because the rerolls are a lot of the times pretty crazy, its just hard to hit what u actually need

unborn hamlet
#

just read what the forge says

nimble shoal
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lol

unborn hamlet
#

the set item CANNOT gain corrupted affix, because it cant have one, which means when u corrupt it, and it GAINS the affix which it CANNOT have, it forces the game to reroll the set item into random reforged item

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its literally listed as a positive outcome on tunklabs

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the forge , the thing u use ingame, by itself, tells u the item gained a corrupted affix, the set item itself, the forge doesnt tell u the item got rerolled into a reforged item

nimble shoal
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Yup, it's reforging, the whole point is that you cannot get a corrupted affix on a set item

unborn hamlet
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yes

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it just irks me when people dont understand why this happens

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set item -> corrupt -> gains stat it cannot have -> item rerolls into reforged item

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its literally that simple of a process

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but the thing is the outcome of the corruption wasnt the reroll

nimble shoal
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It happens the way it happens because the devs programmed it that way, simple

unborn hamlet
#

it was the item gaining the affix

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yea, maybe they should look at what it says in their own game

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and put it into their oh so good ingame guide

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oh wait i forgot they do not give a single shaite about explaining anything upfront

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thats why we still need datamines to know anything

nimble shoal
#

I don't think they need to do anything, though it would be nice if they explained that getting a corrupted affix on a set item is impossible, they also don't explain any other possibilities

unborn hamlet
#

they dont explain pretty much anything

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did u know

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the julra slam

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can critically hit?

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99.9% of people got no clue this even exists

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cos guess what

nimble shoal
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Yes because the devs told us, same as the set affix thing

unborn hamlet
#

ITS WRITTEN NOWHERE

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it doesnt matter what the devs say in their random streams or here on discord

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put the explanations in your damn game

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u introduce a system and u explain almost nothing about it

nimble shoal
#

They don't need to explain absolutely everything

unborn hamlet
#

amazing care for your game

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i love this game i really do, but EHG is just not good at a lot of things

nimble shoal
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Sure, but this is not really one of those things imo. Mainly slow dev cycle and bugs.

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tbh most people confused by stuff like this will never have read any info put out even if it was all readily available

boreal trail
unborn hamlet
#

the unskippable dialogue

boreal trail
#

indeed

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💀

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a little prep

strange needle
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If it wasn't for dataminers we wouldn't know like half the stuff that matters when playing arpgs,?ingame guide is nice but needs to be updated ASAP with useful information that we need and have in 1.4

nimble shoal
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Hard disagree, I'd rather us not know exacts

glad marten
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Sorry @nimble shoal , we're just casuals so we wouldnt understand

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They definitely dont need to explain anywhere that there a miniscule chance to critically hit a julra slam in game. It was in the original patch notes, and the majority of players will never see one

nimble shoal
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Yeah, heck, I've never seen one either lol, and it really has no bearing on how I play

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People will always optimize the fun out of the game if they have the tools to do it

glad marten
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I did look it up for a slam i did recently, slamming a 1 LP unstable core. Something like 0.2% chance to crit. Thank God I knew

glad marten
strange needle
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Idk man you need both groups for the game to thrive hopefully 1.5 is better balanced and more work is focused on the game

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1.4 balance is out of the window so hopefully they can do something about the power creep

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I appreciate the dataminers for the work they put in the game helping people play how they want ,with no false information or skewed,feels good helping others.

nimble shoal
glad marten
# strange needle Idk man you need both groups for the game to thrive hopefully 1.5 is better bala...

I think hardcore players tend to have an outsized opinion of their importance or representation. Y'all flamed me for being a casual the other day and I'm definitely in the top 5 percentile on engagement and playtime.

I think game health overall is important and the opinions of players who want to spend 500 hours per season should be considered, but only insofar as they improve the health of the game overall. EHG should not make changes that benefit the nolifes at the expense of everyone else.

strange needle
# glad marten I think hardcore players tend to have an outsized opinion of their importance or...

You seem to think that the changes were well done,I dont mind if imprints dont work for exalts if at least another method was released to offset the change but it didn't they did nothing to fix player experience this league ,its hard to explain to people stuff when they cant understand said stuff,people who actually used imprints a lot will tell you that they were good maybe a bit too good but they didn't fix anything in game ,maybe if I drop the exact item imprinted I could fix my crafting problems but its pretty random

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Imprints dont fix all the jank the game has ,and people who never used them or barely think they did

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There is no gear progression and thats ok even more power to mg,go farm idols and tell me how much fun it is as cof

glad marten
strange needle
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Well thats why we complain cause they ain't

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If ehg released 4 month leagues stuff would feel way better

glad marten
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I think imprints were an accidental and poor fix to a real problem that the game has had for a long time

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I think they were right to put imprints where they are now and hope they create good systems to solve the pain points that imprints were accidentally solving

strange needle
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But after 7 months you give me a merchant that sells 1 useful echo,echo chains are good and very nice ,corruption some are insane but overall another rng extra layer when the whole system is already flawed

glad marten
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I don't know if you've realized this, but EHG likes randomization and perfect gear being unobtainable

strange needle
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I cannot get exalts that are good for me i for sure aint putting a 1t7 1t5 on my 2 lp shattered worlds

strange needle
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Oh they may like this and that but at the end how is the player experience

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I can get a mirror in poe is unlikely but I can

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If tou don't want people to get 3t7 crafts just get rid of the entire system and lps

glad marten
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....

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See, this is where we just lose each other

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You are so so sick on the idea that perfect gear is the only option that you cannot accept the system

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"Yes, I see 2T7 as impossible but I'm still going to refuse to slam T7T5 and aim for 2T7 for 100 hours and complain at the devs

strange needle
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I already moved past that in 1.0 sure you crafted whatever and honestly if 1 lp is guarantee it just makes sense to get 2t7

glad marten
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Is 2t7 realistic?

strange needle
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I can reach empowered slam a 1lp t7 corrup and call it a day ,this does not make people play for longer

glad marten
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Are you just letting an upgrade for in your stash because you want it to be a better upgrade?

strange needle
glad marten
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Why do you think its supposed to make people play longer

strange needle
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Like people having to go grind conquered tower for likr 1 exalt doesn't seem likr a great qol

glad marten
strange needle
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But you do

glad marten
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Who is forcing you to do all these things you don't like

strange needle
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Thing is people like yourself want to tell us how we need to play

fading saffron
strange needle
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But I dont tell you how you need to play

glad marten
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I'm not telling you how to play

strange needle
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Makes sense to me

glad marten
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You're telling me that you hate something

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And I'm telling you your passion is self inflicted

strange needle
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I tell you that the systems suck so yeah are they fun no

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Or are you gonna tell me that enchantment idol is any good?

glad marten
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I'm watching you beat your head against a brick wall and telling you you don't have to beat your head against the wall and you're saying I'm telling you how to play😂

strange needle
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also the whole idol farm and get proper affixes and corrupt is it any good?

glad marten
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I'm telling you that the system sucks mostly because of your mismatched expectations

glad marten
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Like... all I can tell you is that I have no complaints about altars or the corrupt system

strange needle
glad marten
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Because I have reasonable expectations of how it works and what it can achieve

strange needle
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Whole enchantment is very bad and if your build needs it like example lava burst forgeguard its like very unfun thing to do ,but wcyd thats the game

glad marten
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Dude I just...I want to self reflect and realize that the things you want aren't the way the game currently works and just go do something else with your time

glad marten
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Its something to incrementally improve but still never be perfect

strange needle
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I dont expect a perfect idol ,but I expect ehg to not inflated pool with stun ,stun avoidance, bow damage corruption,mana regen corr,stun avoidance corruption

glad marten
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And that's... fine with me?

strange needle
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Like how is this any good

glad marten
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I don't know what to tell you, man. I have 1/5th your playtime and am happy with my idols

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Probably less than that, honestly

strange needle
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Thats the thing you gotta go and have to actively enchant stuff and report here how it is

glad marten
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I think certain things could be improved about idols, mostly just the prophecies not have class bias

strange needle
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This happens for a million things but hey we just push through and hope for actual changes someday

glad marten
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I just...I don't understand

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Why are you not playing a different game

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Genuinely

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Like... you kinda seem to hate this one

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I don't hate this one but even I'm not playing it now

strange needle
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You love the ehg changes thats great but I don't

glad marten
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I'm not forcing you to do anything

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I'm asking you a question, dude

strange needle
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And we answered said questions a lot

glad marten
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I think they're fine

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Why are you playing this game is not forcing something on you

strange needle
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And I think they aren't not so complicated really

glad marten
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All I hear from you is hostility and I'm wondering what keeps you playing

strange needle
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Thats ok I think the USA president is a clown but someone may love it

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Thats how it is for humans

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Yeah very hostile for sure

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Are you gonna block me like you did to the other guy cause idk I feel even in disagreement I aint offending apart from the casual sorry about that

glad marten
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I totally get why you don't like certain changes

glad marten
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I'd really like to repair the name calling

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If like this to be like...a vigorous but friendly disagreement

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That's my hope

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I definitely said some shit, so you're all good

strange needle
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mage channel getting spammed from us

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Man I love this game and i just want them to do better thats all ,last epoch has always been the game that many can agree has a lot of potential and could be next diablo 2 or something like that ,hopefully 1.5 is a kick ass season,this one has too many balance problems and bugs for me some funny .

nimble shoal
unborn hamlet
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thats what my gripe is, i love this game, but i feel like each season they try their best to make it a more miserable experience

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and s4 is by far the worst offender

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they had 2 years to fix their useless corruption scaling, to improve drops on high corr for the people who pushed it, to fix their terrible FP system that didnt get balanced for all the new sh*t they added to it, but all they did is remove the only way possible to achieve any good gear while adding yet another RNG sh/tfest to the crafing system

full bluff
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Wish they added something to replace it, atleast for CoF. Guess on MG I could buy 2xT7 spears pretty easy?, But on CoF, those are rare 🙂

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Even if 2xT7 was easier, would still have to corrupt 50+ spears to get the corruption I need

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add in the 2/3 failed slams 🙂

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So 150 2xT7 spears...

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and the 3000 unique spears to feed up lp2 .)

desert steppe
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then you get T1 of the corruption 😄

full bluff
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T3... with sinlge T7 is best so far

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I gave up on the lp2 farming

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Really need that area

desert steppe
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yeah corruption could definitely use some fine tuning

full bluff
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For me it doesn't matter much, I can work with any system

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Just some systems have more fun in them

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The building up imprints for the perfect ones was good fun in the long run

desert steppe
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yeah it's more fun seeing progress

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than just throwing money at the blindbox

full bluff
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imprint T7 spear, havoc for crit multi, 100% slam, gamble corruption... 150 times

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run out of dungeon keys first 🙂

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good thing the spears are easy from rune of ascendance

desert steppe
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man the continous julra runs were some of the most 💤 thing I did in the game

full bluff
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If could change the imprinting system to suit my own fun, I would revert it to the old chances, and replace the trove one with a boss kill trigger. That would work great for me. Really hated opening boxes

desert steppe
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yeah box farmingwas 💀

wispy lichen
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I have to ditch my SCF Mage cuz My Ignite stacking don't do enough Damage in the lv 35+ campaign

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so the question is Am I just being clueless about ignite stacking or the fireball is something not suitable for ignite build in the first place?

unborn hamlet
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some builds just dont function without being max level/good gear

umbral trellis
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kinda need spreading flame to actually cruising campaign

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so early on spec into more fire ball and dmg

unborn hamlet
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a lot of the builds have a leveling variant, where u use completely different skills and stuff to get across campaign, and only when u hit like lvl 80 or so and have the basic gear u respecc to the actual build

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maxroll even adds a disclaimer that all the builds assume u are level X

sudden sinew
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Instead, we get 4-6 months of waiting in between for them to then completely blow the balance out of the water again

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Like, imagine every week or so, they just increased and decreased numbers by a small percentage until things start to look how they intended

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Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go back to doing trillions of damage with Rogue shadows while other skills could never imagine getting that close to doing a single instance of that magnitude

unborn hamlet
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falconers doing 100k + corr oneshotting everything offscreen by pressing 1 button since season 1? nothing wrong here

kindred rune
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Hi, I play a mage-sorcerer and I'm not sure what items to allocate in the Weaver Tree. It seems a bit confusing to me. Can you help me?

unborn hamlet
kindred rune
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like this

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@unborn hamlet

unborn hamlet
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uh

kindred rune
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what can i do ?

unborn hamlet
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generally u would want to path towards the locked slots by the shortest route possible, and then spec your points (you can respec them at any time) towards the nodes u want to use

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since u only have 3 point ill assume u just started with the character

kindred rune
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im playing mage-sorcerer so Which one should I give it to ?

unborn hamlet
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this is generic for each class, doesnt matter what u play

kindred rune
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hmm

unborn hamlet
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do you play CoF or MG? if u are there yet?

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or at least know what they are?

kindred rune
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nope im just playing offline i love play alone

unborn hamlet
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then u wont be playing MG cos thats not a thing in offline

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i recommend going this path then

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one to the right

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then to the bottom right

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then up towards this book

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1 point each

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that should prove you with experience boost to level up faster

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from the book u also have close pathway to the right side slots for item imprints

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what they do is self explanatory, if u aim ur cursor at them it tells u

kindred rune
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To be honest, this seems a bit confusing to me at first. 🙂

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is it normally ?

unborn hamlet
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if u dont know the system it can be confusing but there is guides how to set it up,

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but to start off i think ur best bet is going towards the exp book node i said,

kindred rune
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hm

unborn hamlet
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on the left section 5 is starter strategies,

kindred rune
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hmm

unborn hamlet
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and each point down is a different strategy and it explains to you what its good for

kindred rune
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I think I'll only understand the system by trying it out and reading about it.

unborn hamlet
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its intuitive u just need to read, u can just select what feels right to u and thats valid too

kindred rune
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hmm

unborn hamlet
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but there is nothing such as ´´mage specific´´ tree thats all

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the tree is the same for every class

kindred rune
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From what I've seen on YouTube, they have different Weaver Tree templates for everyone.