🧙┃mage

[desert steppe]

no one's gonna use exalts as is without any crafting done on it

[left hill]

not past leveling anyway, ya

[desert steppe]

it's meme worthy with random T7s during campaign but it's totally useless late game

[carmine abyss]

also i am playing LB build... most of my items are boss drops.. and i dont even know how to utilize the imprints.. and i dont play other classes

so i am kinda mad

[left hill]

right now corrupted exalts from omens carry you to like level 80, and then become completely useless

[real rain]

yeah I mean the game is fun until you hit that progression wall which unfortunately comes a lot sooner this season

[carmine abyss]

ye...

i realized

i should have stopped playing after getting 1lp

working on 2 lp or above is a nightmare ngl

[real rain]

I think 2LP + corruption is the hard limit rn

really not worth going for 2 T7 affixes

so T7 + T5 + corruption

move on

[carmine abyss]

ye untill i brick several 2lps.. and i have no gears for monolith

[real rain]

well yeah, high risk high reward type beat

I only do it when I have a replacement

I learned my lesson when I lost my army of skin boots xd

[carmine abyss]

the problem is I would rather have multiple 2lp boss items instead of a 3lp.. i have no exualts to utilize high lp items.. also i cant put primordial and boss drops on imprints which is such a drag

[real rain]

I feel like imprints should at least be able to influence boss/primordial drops

[carmine abyss]

exactly!

i get it double t7 is high standards... fine

but why the heck i cant use them for boss drops and primordial

nvm

complaining doesnt help anyway

[real rain]

think I saw someone say if anything changes it won't be until next season anyway

they don't care

"we want more player retention" meanwhile they give people more reasons to jump to poe or tli xd

[left hill]

i threw a suggestion into the void for what it's worth - #suggestions message

[lusty zinc]

Can anyone recommend skills to use for leveling a mage. Im not a big fan of glacier

[harsh abyss]

Fireball leveling is easy peasy, especially if you have a Firestarter's Torch

My off-brand leveling strategy is lightning ele nova + channeled lightning blast

[lusty zinc]

Now see thats something i would like to play as well :Å

love lightning

[real rain]

It's not as strong but ever since they added extra chains to base LB I use that to level with xd

It's my favorite skill so it's a good time rly

[kindred oxide]

yup pretty much. chasing LP3 and 7/7 is out. corrupting LP2s until you get a really good one is the new meta.

my LP2 graveyard tab is almost full

[desert steppe]

you mean LP1 and slam 💀

[kindred oxide]

that's exactly the problem imo.

spellblade's design asks you to put your eggs into two baskets: hit a melee attack to cast a spell. in arpgs, it's almost always better to put all your eggs into one basket, and have your whole build juicing one primary damage source.

flame reave just converts spell damage with one node and calls it a day. then piles a ton of multipliers into the tree. it's an outlier among spellblade design, the build's damage is all focused into flame reave.

and lo and behold it's actually good

[left hill]

also "you need to spec into melee to proc spells that do subpar damage -- but also there are a bunch of proc limits, so you can't even proc that many"

[kindred oxide]

yes the proc limits are so stupid

druid and void knight got nodes that were super broken one season, because it gave them two uncapped multipliers that multiplicative with each other.

druid was like. frostbite stacks and poison stacks.
vk was like, chance to slow, chance to time rot.

the problem was that they multiplied with each other, so the numbers you got were massive. they shouldve just been added together as a singular multiplier.

but they saw the prob as "we should have put a cap on this... and everything else"

fun police text "can only proc x times every y seconds"

[desert steppe]

not even that

they already have a lot of those x times per seconds items even from beta

but while they keep those around they just "forgot" to put a cap on the more broken stuff

season 3 they added flay with mana for more damage and mana for more projectiles, they're not learning their lesson 😄

uncapped scaling for double-dipping stuffs

[kindred oxide]

Why does fire aura need a cap? what is the worst that can happen? God forbid Fire Aura would actually deal damage?

Would be neat if the only thing limiting fire aura stacks was how many you can generate with your build.

[desert steppe]

fire safety rules 🧑‍🚒

[real rain]

They've really embraced boring game design and it's sad to see

[kindred oxide]

Fire aura is really lame. Not gonna lie.

Okay let's break it down, what does it actually do.

Damage? It's damage scales poorly because there are barely any multipliers, it doesn't have a skill tree it just eats up your passive points.

Ceiling is way too low to use it as a damage source.

Basically the most practical use is that node that consumes your stacks for mana.

Builds that spam 10 Mana abilities the fire "aura" is consumed as soon as it is generated. For 3 mana.

So, it's not an aura at all. It's a 3 mana jelly bean, that you eat as soon as you get it. How exciting.

Surge builds 10 fire aura in one go. Awesome! That's 30 Mana you get back for casting a 25 Mana skill.

[real rain]

If it wasn't attached to flame drinker I wouldn't use it lol

[proven haven]

I agree... new build LB fire aura, generate 90 stacks per second pog

Could probably get 500+ stacks on boss

Melt that uber booty

Thats gotta be what, like 1% of a rogue damage? Pretty solid

[real rain]

considering rogue can oneshot uber... yeah

[harsh abyss]

The thing that bothers me about proc limits is that procs are already limited. They have full control over the available attack and cast speed that you can get, and can change the number of hits that abilities are capable of.

Maybe reduce available cast and attack speed bonuses by like 50%+ overall and buff up damage to compensate. Not every attack should be an insane barrage of hits.

I love the idea of "Big snipe that clears" but when I could do one big hit for 800% damage or 85 hits for 100% damage... there's a clear winner

[left hill]

i'm not even anti-speed being available or saying %speed needs to get cut, but there should definitely be more modulation of that on individual skills (not just differences in base rate, but things like 'this skill ramps up its damage between uses, reaching full effect after Xs' and other sorts of twists that encourage a more deliberate approach and mixing skills together instead of spam being overwhelmingly the viable playstyle) and then balancing damage appropriately

like, I enjoy Shatter Strike spam and I'm aiming for a ton of speed on my build. but there definitely should be other ways to build

[harsh abyss]

I'm not even really necessarily anti-speed either, but having almost every proc effect being limited to X per Y seconds feels like a band-aid solution. They have full control over how many hits/crits/whatevers per second we get and so they shouldn't need to limit them based on time.

[noble reef]

Damn i was about to start some fire aura spellblade 😂

Had some demotivational

[full bluff]

Anyone gotten volcanic orb to work this season?

[weary hamlet]

this is the problem and not the caps. The developers don't even remotely try to balance mana return skills/passives/items based on the opportunity cost. Like how much mana per second should you get at the cost of specializing a skill? How much mana per second should you get at the cost of investing let's say 10 passive points? How much mana per second of active mana regen skill usage should you get? Completely random between every such skill/interaction

[weary hamlet]

it's bad either way because the game's class/combat design encourages degeneracy, like remember the warlock fissure builds that literally pressed 1 button every 10 seconds and that one button triggered all 5 of their specialized skills at competitive DPS and with a bunch of utility effects too?

[real rain]

lol, throwback to when warlock cheated out so much ward it broke the game and overflowed

[weary hamlet]

yea its cool that they have this option for dad gamers with 50 wives and 10000 kids but those builds should be strictly worse than builds that involve active gameplay and decision making

in LE they tend to be strictly better

[real rain]

I don't really think these devs care about actually balancing the game in general, there's so much that makes 0 sense and I've seen people say they don't listen to feedback regarding broken builds and such even from their testers

[weary hamlet]

yea we've all been here for a while the balance had never not been a joke and they display no grasp of the most basic fundamentals

like knowing how to use a calculator

[real rain]

I've been here since before 0.9 and it has just gotten progressively worse with each patch lol

[full bluff]

Sometimes I think it is done on purpose in the design, to limit the amount of "good builds" each season to just a few. It is a pattern that occurs not just in Last Epoch, but also in Diablo 4. Seems like mage has been in the same build variety situation - always. Just the build that is good changes, sometimes.

When did sorcerer have more than 1 or 2 good builds? 🙂

[real rain]

it does feel like anytime a mage build is good it gets targeted pretty quickly so I'm expecting a big LB nerf next season xd

my memory might be hazy but static orb, glacier and frost claw have all been nerfed when they were good

[full bluff]

Glacier still mostly work the same way, its relative power just dropped

Meteor on crit got nerfed

[real rain]

o ya they hit that really hard

[full bluff]

Frost claw still works in almost the same way, just got its power reduced and relatively dropped a lot

Frostbite version got nerfed with the general nerf to frostbite and a change in how frostclaw hits

My first good sorcerer build was a frostclaw frostbite

That turned out to work better as a runemaster

[real rain]

iirc around 0.8 before runemaster my go to sorc build was lightning blast or static orb

[unborn hamlet]

They can't nerf my baby LB

Besides, they already nerfed the DMG by half

By nerfing the flat DMG on enigma

It's still crazy DMG but yeah, effectively nerfed by 50% or so

[half pollen]

You can still try something with fire aura. Fire aura doesnt have to be the damage source. I really like cinder chest this season with 50% void damage per fire aura. You get 40 fire auras basically for free now. So thats 2000% void damage just from your chest. You can play void volcanic orb with shrapnel or just force void damage onto flame reave and play void reave. Sure fire auras only support here but its still a fire aura ish build

[unborn hamlet]

Comes out to about 42% DMG loss

[real rain]

inb4 convergence nerf

[unborn hamlet]

Nerf the 100k Corr falconers tyvm

Us humble LB guys are sitting around 2k

[real rain]

they can't hurt their precious rogue players smh

[unborn hamlet]

I remember the warlock disaster in s1

Nerfing ward gains cos of them effectively killed half the builds thanks to that

And they didn't give a hoot about that

[weary hamlet]

sentinel and primalist are better ward classes than mage it's a joke now

[summer galleon]

is there saving to flamereave

like it feels so good to play but the ward is...

depressing

[unborn hamlet]

max health to ward conversion (low health set up)

but then ur giving up dmg for that

[desert steppe]

is that with brutality

[native jacinth]

Yeah not good I started to just stack more health, I’m at like 500 corr but if I get hit I’m toast lol

[pale cedar]

Late response but thank you! I still don't see it going faster but it is kind of hard to tell when its like 15%. The node itself reads "cooldown rate" but the buff icon says "cooldown recovery speed". In both instance it takes just as long as i can tell. I reported it as a bug in the game thing, hopefully im not sending them on a goose chase X_X

[summer galleon]

I guess that does make sense the 42% health to ward primordial

right now I am sitting with 3k health 2k ward its depressing

[unborn hamlet]

at 3k health u would be getting 1.5k war a second

then u can force glove corruption till u hit a t5-t7 health conversion as well

for extra 20%

and suddenly ur spitting out 2k ward a second

can take it a step further and gamble for the experiment on top as well

for another possible 20%

[summer galleon]

tbh my glove gives me 30+26+16% atk speed

[unborn hamlet]

i said its on the expense of dmg

[summer galleon]

yeahh

[unborn hamlet]

which gloves u use?

[summer galleon]

immortal vise

[unborn hamlet]

still possible to do

2LP

cast speed + conversion experiment then corrupt the experimental as well, but yeah good luck doing that

[summer galleon]

to be honest since I am using titan heart my health will drop A lot

I shall figure something out

[unborn hamlet]

can u send ur planner here?

[summer galleon]

sure

[spring crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQAC3ggbi1M the idol altar :)))

[full bluff]

Its madness 🙂

[spring crag]

you mean the idols?

I must say it's... creative

[full bluff]

Just meant the glass cannon style

[spring crag]

yeah

strange for mage to use madness conversion

[full bluff]

Test I did with madness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzZrTp6yRQk

For most bosses you don't need defenses at all, since they are perma stunned

[spring crag]

why is your animation of lightning meteor so different?

[full bluff]

cosmetic

Burst damage can go over 100M dps on dummy

[spring crag]

Damn

[full bluff]

Even in massive aoe farming setup the damage is great

For most stuff

[spring crag]

I did not realize that flame caller was so important to flame reave

flame reave is much closer to shatterstrike now

with rampancy and fangs of berserker

[spring crag]

so you can still go for madness?

for bossing and farming too?

since the thing I'm not sure about mage is whether to go for madness or not

especially vs uber

[full bluff]

For meteor farming I play with massive area, to clear fast. Stay at a corruption where most get 1 shot by one meteor shower, just keep moving with meteor shower in front. For bosses i depends I guess. On if you manage the fight or not, just bursting bosses down is quite possible

[spring crag]

how about omen?

[full bluff]

Massive area works great there, monsters are usually 1 shots

[spring crag]

ah ok

hmm

[full bluff]

Keep bursting a meteor shower every 1-2 seconds, covers entire area

[spring crag]

I would go for shattered world

and swaddling

[full bluff]

I play channeled mana guide focus, so I need all the speed source I can get

Feels awfully slow with low speed

Everything is dead around you and you have to move 2 screens for next pack, mentally makes it feel slow

Sometimes I just wait for teleport 🙂

[spring crag]

might try it

[full bluff]

If you don't use mana guide, you need something else for haste

[spring crag]

I have lightning+fire rm, fire+cold spellblade

so cold+lightning sorc go brr

cold is volcanic orb

[spring crag]

I will use mana guide

now for shatter strike

it has 20 mana cost

@cloud dew do you think the same rampancy+brutality thing with flay lich can be done with shatter strike?

[cloud dew]

yes

any melee build in the game really

[spring crag]

that thing has whooping 20 mana cost

[cloud dew]

mostly just brutality

well

rampancy too but like

not the leech part

[spring crag]

it provide more dmg than velocyn's jaw right?

[cloud dew]

idk i dont play shatter

[spring crag]

but you played flay lich and replaced that

hmm worth testing

20 mana cost is too attractive

[desert steppe]

brutality + exulis with low life ward sounds interesting

[desert steppe]

does this autoproc with lowlife build?

[dawn widget]

huh guys I found this but Im not sure if anyone is even playing glacier or ice barrage build ngl

Is this worth anything on the market

[weary hamlet]

market lol

does anybody still play on the mg at all?

[dawn widget]

nothing on the market for this ngl

kek quite a few

[edgy falcon]

Tried this one and turns out it has much better survivability and the damage is still the same if not slightly better. Ty! Was finally able to clear the double omen thing

[umbral perch]

I'm playing glacier but I'm solo character found and can't currently fit ice barrage in

[full bluff]

Wish this worked

[sharp mantle]

looks very impressive, those healthbars aren't moving though

[glossy quarry]

People hate him so hard lmao

[sharp mantle]

kind of unwarranted imo, he doesn't ever really claim that his builds are meta defining powerhouses just talks up what they do well and takes them through 500-1000ish corruption

[full bluff]

This orbiting volcanic orb with explosive ground is really weird playstyle, it leaves a trail of exploding ground behind you. Which is usually not where you have the enemy. Wonder if anyone actually tested playing with this

It is way easier to play target volcanic orb, shooting the orbs in front of you

[unborn hamlet]

glad to hear

new LB Enjoyers always welcome

[proven haven]

No but you can force proc it in several ways, like teleport life to ward conversion or twisted heart

My fire aura build was using this tech to get a bunch of free ward

Iirc the math was like 18% max life per second as ward with all the nodes

[proven haven]

Oh no, is this autobomber LB?

Its been nerfed so giga hard

Oh this is just standard LB except as sorc, that's fine

[desert steppe]

woah that actually sounds like quite a lot

[sharp mantle]

I don't get why Warpath VK is fine but managuide being fairly fast and decent is not

[summer galleon]

I want to say sentinel is the special child of le but thats rouge

[proven haven]

Even in 1.3 warpath was still way better than LB autobomber

And start of 1.4 still way better

Then further nerf

Better than any mage build actually

Faster, more aoe, more single target, more survivability

Lmao

[sharp mantle]

similarly pretty sure ballista was much much better than totem shaman pre-1.2 but the gathering storm/storm totem build got nerfed in 1.2

as far as the stationary ranged minion builds go

[proven haven]

Ballista been giga for agrs

Ages

Why LB get nerf when stronger sentinel and rogue still way stronger lel

[carmine abyss]

qq, what does this echo do? is this ever useful?

a bit confused by this node

[umbral perch]

Mostly, it makes it convenient to run three or four echoes in a row and then decide what to do next. Since it gives you a portal to the next echo in the chain. Mainly quality of life for folks suffering from decision fatigue

[median tapir]

St of lb is far superior

Warpath st is okayish

Bit everything Else yes

[carmine abyss]

the portal is always there with/without this node

[umbral perch]

The portal is there for all echo chains, that node makes everything an echo chain

[carmine abyss]

ah I see. so every regular echo has a portal now?

[twilit jasper]

Calls for a corrupt DONT IT?

[umbral perch]

Very approximately yes

[sterile ledge]

big win

[carmine abyss]

tysm! I will try this if it ever helps me

[twilit jasper]

wtf how dare you

[carmine abyss]

💯❤️‍🔥

[twilit jasper]

how DARE you

youll jsut sit in my stash forever

frost claw is based on cast speed.. i HOPE?

[median tapir]

Its trash

[twilit jasper]

your name is

[median tapir]

Just throw it in ur stash

[carmine abyss]

[median tapir]

Stop the cope

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/frostbite-frost-claw-sorcerer-guide

Ur guide

🫣

[carmine abyss]

1st red ring and my build doesnt need it

got it from echo reward

[tawdry halo]

can lightning blast proc multiple meteor per cast with harbinger of star ? like 1 meteor per target hit with chains

[harsh abyss]

Every crit will have a chance, yeah

[sterile ledge]

had 0 drops in 3 days that are relevant to me, and i get this shit from nemesis

why can't i get those tiers but on a useful item

[vivid wedge]

What was it a week ago you were having trouble with 133 corruption

Congrats man!

[carmine abyss]

thanks! I would almost quit without your help bro. ❤️‍🔥

[carmine abyss]

wow I am in love with this echo node. my maps look so dam clean and I know where I wana farm at first glance.

[tawdry halo]

do you know if LB roll crit chance per cast or per target hit ?

[harsh abyss]

I believe all hits roll chance independently, but I've never tested it tbh

[nimble shoal]

Crits all roll per hit

[carmine abyss]

should I turn around and farm another echo chain if i find the reward is not what i am looking for even though i have gone really far from the center got all the way up there eg. like the reward is unique mace which is not what i want atm

[umbral perch]

The further you are from center, the more stability you get per echo; if the additional stability from going further out isn't worth much (e.g. you don't especially need drops from the timeline boss or harbinger and you're not trying to raise corruption aggressively) then yeah, run whatever has good rewards for you. As long as you're generally headed out into the dark overall I wouldn't stress about it. Not stressing is the point of that node, embrace it. 🙂

[unborn hamlet]

well i think i have a winner,

sucks i couldnt get a better base

[carmine abyss]

well noted! thank you! 👍 really enjoying the node atm. I thought the reward/drop rate would be better if I am far away from the center. but if its only about the stability then I am just gonna farm the echos I want.

[carmine abyss]

ye I really want the base giving extra attributes but its eaither rare or I've fked up crafting for a few so far

[graceful matrix]

Is fire based Fire Aura the best or are there good reasons to change it to lightning or ice?

[harsh abyss]

All 3 versions have different builds for them, but I think Firebrand + Fire version is probably the strongest

[elfin rapids]

Cold has:
1)Ward Retention from Frostbite Shackles
2)60% more global cold damage from Ice Barrage
3)40% more cold damage from Throne of Ambition

Fire has:
1)40% more fire damage from Throne of Ambition
2)+45 spell fire damage from Firebrand (technically Cold can also benefit from this but it wouldn't scale with Ice Barrage and other Cold related stuff)
3)360% fire resistance from Firebrand (which results in a lot of more damage)
4)54% more fire damage against targets with Spreading Flames

Lightning has:
1)+45 spell fire damage and 360% fire resistance from Firebrand can be converted to Lightning but the more damage against Spreading Flames cannot
2)Vilatria Set bonus (which can be used on Cold and Fire too but it wouldn't scale with Throne of Ambition and other Lightning related stuff)
3)Mana Regen from Urzil's Pride

[graceful matrix]

Thank you as I was running a build by testing things out and fire seemed the best (easiest to find fire resist as well), but I wasn't sure if there were better options instead

[runic delta]

Hey guys new player here. Any other league starter apart from maxroll leveling guide?

[real rain]

Fireball leveling is pretty good

[runic delta]

When should I actually change to an endgame build?

[real rain]

Depends on the build you're planning on playing and it's requirements

[runic delta]

wish Maxroll had a "League starter" section like they do on PoE side

[real rain]

There used to be way more leveling builds but when LE added the ability to respec your mastery they deleted everything except what they think the most optimal skill is for each class xd

[runic delta]

for example this one

It doesnt explicit that it "NEEDS" a unique

just that it will be better with it

So in theory I can use this from whatever level I unlock the skill

[real rain]

Yeah you can, it might not feel great but you can do it

[runic delta]

Yeah it's just if I need to cast Glacier one more time im going to gauge my eyes out

[real rain]

Nah I feel that, I have never liked starting Glacier

Feels so bad when one cast drains your entire mana bar so you run around until you can use it again xd

[runic delta]

That plus its slow as hell

[proper hawk]

you use mana strike to get it back, not just run around

at least while levelling early

[runic delta]

found static orb leveling guide

which is ok dmage is meh

[weary hamlet]

you can easily level with any damage skill on mage, the difference is gonna be pretty negligible

[weary hamlet]

SO requires a lot of points to shine but if you go into 4 small balls -> orbit you can get a functional build relatively soon

[proven haven]

LE doesn't have as slow of a ramp as PoE, "league starters" to fund your "actual build" aren't really a thing.

You can mostly just do what you want, it might be a bit slower but if you are following a guide anyway you properly aren't worried about speed running minmax optimized fastest leveling etc.

The difference might be a few hours. Most mandatory uniques are easy to find day 1, even if 0LP

[twilit jasper]

ngl interesting

[robust junco]

How much mana do you want?
Yes

[unborn hamlet]

post the you dont have enough mana gif thanks

[robust junco]

??

[summer galleon]

speaking of mana would this work under any condition https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWXjXEGE

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (11) / Spellblade (69) / Runemaster (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,020, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 1,644.24, Regen: 30.56/s
▸ Attributes: 33 Str / 36 Dex / 101 Int / 31 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 115% / 112% / 96% / 123% / 110% / 116% / 115%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 525
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (741)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,082)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Frost Claw / Lightning Blast / Flame Ward / Enchant Weapon

[umbral perch]

It was viable last patch and only got better

[harsh abyss]

I dropped like 5 sentinel pieces in a row last night so I decided to finally roll one this season. The difference is absurd.

[rough mirage]

New player here.

It's official. After trying all classes, i finally chose flame reave as my first ever build i'm gonna use to beat the harbingers and aberroth. Hopefully uber too.

Just cruised through the campaign with flame reave + sunwreath using the smite sword and did all the passives and idols. Most fun campaign playthrough ever.

Now to start monos. Wish me luck.

[unborn hamlet]

if that void dmg was spell or light dmg...

this would be the hit of century

[harsh abyss]

I mean, still incredible. 27 int on a ring is amazing.

[weak sable]

few question for elemental nova:
can you achieve more than 5 cast per sec with cast speed without the channel perk?
does cast speed affect the channel perk at all?
can you in any way cast the nova while moving?

[unborn hamlet]

it is, but i have 26 int ring with 21% spell dmg sealed, i checked just to make sure, and the diff is almost non existent in terms of dmg, my ring gives me 38HP and some endurance so its like yeah. more useful

if this one had that light dmg or spell instead, or simply rolling t7ints down there it would be way better for sure

[harsh abyss]

-Cast speed doesn't affect the channel perk
-No way to channel while moving
-Ele nova has a base cast speed of 1.467 casts/sec. To get 5 casts per second, you need ~250% increased cast speed. Doable, but not super easy.

There's definitely some opportunity cost to getting that much cast speed, so taking that node eliminates the need to build ANY cast speed.

[weak sable]

i see ty, so for this chest would you recommend to go for the channel perk or normal cast?

[unborn hamlet]

this wont work with channel

[harsh abyss]

Could depend on build, but assuming you're building tri-element nova you're probably going to end up with a fair amount of cast speed in your build no matter what, so I don't think channel is worth it

But yeah, the unique effect of Unstable Core won't trigger with channel

[weak sable]

ah really? hmm than i have to invest in cast speed i guess

[harsh abyss]

It requires 6 direct casts and channeling only counts the start of the channel as one direct cast

[unborn hamlet]

cast speed on wand/gloves should already push u over required cast speed

besides its 6 casts without a 2sec gap

meaning u can cast 1 each second and be fine

[weak sable]

ooooh, i thought it has to be 6 IN 2 seconds

[harsh abyss]

nah, it's without a 2 second gap

So you can trigger it even at base cast speed

[weak sable]

i see ty

btw would be elemental dmg or spell dmg inc better for tri elemental nova. i would guess elemental because its counts as triple the dmg? klike 100% elemental is same as 100% cold + 100% light + 100% fire, so overall 300% ?

[harsh abyss]

No

It's divided amonst the three

If you have 10 fire, 10 lightning and 10 cold damage, +100% elemental damage will give you 20 fire, 20 lightning, 20 cold

[nimble shoal]

They are identical, 100% elemental damage is the same as 100% spell damage (assuming you aren't counting ailment damage and not adding non-elemental damage to the nova).
Elemental damage as an affix rolls lower than other damage affixes, so it'll usually be worse when comparing affixes.

[real rain]

Nova might actually be decent if it worked like that lol

[harsh abyss]

It matters because of the way flat damage works. It's divided evenly, so 60 flat damage is 20 of each flavor

[proven haven]

Tbh this hasn't really scaled well with power creep

Its a really low amount of flat added

Just in general its kinda weak

[weak sable]

yeah, i just want to try something different. im pretty much done with the season as my main has killed every boss etc. so im a bit bored 😄

and just by reading through all the stuff this comb sounded nice. so i thought give it a try. but yeah im starting monolith atm with it and hitting for 5k per cast isnt that much 😄

[proven haven]

Yea its just such a depressingly small bonus. 60 flat every 6th is like +10 flat

[harsh abyss]

Add Legends Entwined with the Invoker set for another +7 levels

[proven haven]

Even with 50 levels nova probably still meh

Even the pen is kinda diluted

[harsh abyss]

The build I was looking at for it was ~42 levels I think?

I havent gotten it very far though

[proven haven]

1000% ele res is 100% pen

Which isnt that much really for such an investment

[harsh abyss]

The way I see the pen node is it basically equals "resist shred" since base capped resists give you ~20%, I wouldnt build into it.

[proven haven]

Yea a t7 ele res affix is like 8% pen or whatever

[harsh abyss]

12%, but yeah

[proven haven]

Er I guess yeag

[harsh abyss]

One of the side benefits I like about it is you can use all 3 runewords in RM for 1-2 points each for +30 flat (spread across the 3 elements). Not many builds can really utilize that

[proven haven]

Yea fair

[harsh abyss]

Also I just like Gordian Prism and Grand Prism Nova as a concept

[proven haven]

It just needs a lot of help, the effectiveness is meh, multis arent big enough, spark charge synergy is too bad

Ailments doesnt have enough hits

Or more multis

Dot doesnt care about hit more multis

[harsh abyss]

Yeah

[proven haven]

Another outdated skill

[harsh abyss]

We did the math a while ago and if you get all the More multis, the total is about... one unbuffed meteor.

ARPGs always struggle to make single-hit skills actually valuable compared to multi-hit ones.

[proven haven]

15 LB hits is already what, 1500%?

Before spark charge

No innate AoE but still

[weary hamlet]

it was already bad when they initially made the item, it could add that to every cast and nova would still be shit tier

[left hill]

could remove the direct cast requirement too. still terrible skill.

[weary hamlet]

nah thye need less brainless trigger spam all over the screen and more making the skills viable and usable with active button pressing and active building around

ele nova is supposed to have like 5 potential builds inside it and none are remotely viable

[left hill]

i think you're interpreting my comment as saying they should make that change. i'm not. i'm just saying the skill would still suck even if that with indirect casts & channel

[harsh abyss]

I think @weary hamlet is partially right, but I also think the availability of attack/cast speed is part of the problem. We can just cast too quickly and it leads to all sorts of screen spam. And it exacerbates the issues with triggers and forces them to put the rate limiters on everything

[elfin rapids]

Since we're talking about Elemental Nova: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeY7Y1eq

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (13) / Spellblade (18) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,412, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 325.79, Regen: 12.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 436%, Regen: 32/s
▸ Attributes: 44 Str / 44 Dex / 218 Int / 44 Att / 44 Vit
▸ Resistances: 57% / 33% / 189% / 30% / 30% / 74% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 284
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (176)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,268)

Used skills:

Elemental Nova / Flame Rush / Glyph of Dominion / Frost Wall / Runic Invocation

[weary hamlet]

yea reaching like 5 casts per second of hard casts is a bit much and pushes the game towards a twitch jerk simulator which is sucks giga hard at, they should seriously reevaluate their design philosophy

or rather they should have 4-6 years ago and now it's a bit too late

[harsh abyss]

I think Frozen was looking at something like 80 hits per second for LB builds??

It's a little out of control

[weary hamlet]

also there is not enough opportunity cost to picking these attack/cast speed nodes, and little real alternative. Like if you are not taking the cast speed talents in sorc, what are you even picking instead?

"a little" out of control

and if this was only one exceptional build or something

[harsh abyss]

Give us the Sentinel treatment where we get all our defenses for free and enough damage on the passive tree to delete uber 😝

[weak sable]

so i tried abit around and how i would gear my nova build. if the planner is correct i end up with 125k dps https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oN2z2eg5
@proven haven

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (65) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,398, Regen: 40.6/s
▸ Mana: 369.08, Regen: 17.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 381%, Regen: 156/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 21 Dex / 172 Int / 29 Att / 33 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 110% / 94% / 81% / 92% / 87% / 89%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 280
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (84)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,152)

Used skills:

Elemental Nova / Flame Ward / Teleport / Arcane Ascendance

[weary hamlet]

either that or rogue, just add another 25x more damage to every skill

or the warlock special, just add a zero somewhere

ice barrage? 400% more damage per icicle or something

[left hill]

just need another 100-1,000x multiplier...

[urban nest]

You need to togle on enemy is chilled, shocked, ignited and your Throne, that puts you up at 344k. Scales and Trinity cripple your damage.

[proven haven]

I mean there are nodes that give like 5% cast speed. Back when you got maybe 80% on a build that was a lot. Same with some skill tree nodes that still give increased damage.

Anything that doesnt give more hits, or more damage, or some other form of "more" something is just useless now

[urban nest]

I was looking at ele nova before the league started, but ended up shelving the idea in favour of playing my go-to feelgood build (Frozen Orb), but I was doing something along the lines of https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ373x5X for 800k~1.1mill+, nowhere near optimized and with 20+ passive points to spare.

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (56) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,608, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 376.21, Regen: 15.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 362%, Regen: 48/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 33 Dex / 181 Int / 27 Att / 33 Vit
▸ Resistances: 38% / 14% / 62% / 14% / 14% / 87% / 71%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 454
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (132)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,071)

Used skills:

Elemental Nova

[elfin rapids]

Your planner has 125k dps on average rolls and 167k on max rolls, you can make it 164k~220k if you take points from the base crit and area nodes to put into the Spark Charges node. The planner i posted a bit above is 212k~298k, but unfortunately that is bad by today standarts.

I swaped some points and got 264k~382k, that's all i could get on a 47 levels skill lmao

[urban nest]

You have to set the conditions for Shatter Nova, as well as enable buffs for the automatic calculator.

[weary hamlet]

always had been, I remember having this very discussion back in 0.8.3 or was it 4 and everybody concluded that the number of more modifiers was the main and often only predictor of any skill's success

and that was in like 2022

[elfin rapids]

305k~449k now, i already can tickle Uber yay

[harsh abyss]

One of the problems is also that Ele Nova doesn't necessarily NEED to be good at single target damage, in theory. BUT the problem is that no single target build tends to struggle with AOE clear so the theory of "one ability for single target, a separate ability for clear" falls apart.

Take LB: The single target is good, but 2 of the main components (spark nova and spark charge) are also AOE, and they do enough AOE damage to clear out small things, why would you need another skill specifically for clear?

Almost every single target ability has some amount of clear to it, and that means when you're pumping up the single target damage, you're also pumping up the ability to clear the screen. It makes AOE abilities basically worthless as a concept.

So we have AOE abilities that suck for single target, and single target abilities that are great for clear.

[weary hamlet]

yea also a tale as old as time, why even have five spec slots when the game is built on the premise that most skills are self sufficient as your only damage skill for all situations

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, and when you can cast your single target ability like 5-8 times for second because of crazy cast speed... who needs a separate skill for AOE

[weary hamlet]

yea and also it's very common to have nodes/transformations that allow good clear in single target skills, but the reverse is very rare

like imagine if ele nova had a node, increase damage by 5000% but its damage is now divided evenly between all targets it hits

[harsh abyss]

oh man it might actually be good

[weary hamlet]

or something

[elfin rapids]

Things i would change on Crest of Unity: the line that "forces" your Elemental Nova to be the standart tri-elemental version would be changed to "you cast all novas you have unlocked at the same time", so if you have 1 point into each of the 3 novas, instead of randomly casting one of them you would cast all 3 at the same time effectively triple your damage. Another thing would be changing the "1% elemental penetration every 10% elemental resistance" to every 3%

[elfin rapids]

Interesting

Is there any effect in the game that behaves like this? I liked the idea, but i'm afraid the implementation would result in bugged interactions lol

[proven haven]

You could still do a FC / static orb hybrid that would work well for both and actually have a single vs AoE

[harsh abyss]

Problem with something like this is that it makes Crest of Unity basically mandatory for Nova to be good. It would be better to buff the skill itself so it's functional without uniques and uniques either create new builds or enhance specific aspects of the skill.

[proven haven]

Though it would lose to LB in both AoE and single

I think SO in theory could beat LB on single but probably lose on AoE

[elfin rapids]

I mean, it already is mandatory even in current weak situation of the skill, and i believe it always will be because is just too much skill levels and damage reduction and penetration.

There's not really changing this unless they revamp completely the skill and the item.

I'm thinking more like small changes here and there.

[harsh abyss]

Small changes like tripling both the damage and penetration? haha

[harsh abyss]

IDK how static orb competes with a bajillion hits per second from LB, but you're the math guy

[proven haven]

And give it like a lil mini nova inside the nova that does more damage or something

[elfin rapids]

Tripling zero is still zero

[proven haven]

Idk, it has some good multis and kinda just works

[harsh abyss]

Mana stacking static orb is one of the more enjoyable builds I've dinked around with this season. It feels good to play for sure.

[strange needle]

If you add the mana corruption SO should have more single target than lb

[proven haven]

I think SO already could have had more single than LB in 1.3 iirc

Mechanically inferior though

[cosmic dove]

@harsh abyss @weary hamlet @proven haven I closed the book on season 4 for me
thanks for answering all my returning-player-dumb-questions
for the record, I got Pulsar-BH + (manual) Meteor to 650c
Aberroth melted in a few seconds
I didnt try the new 3 omen circle thing or uber
the time investment for upgrades just became too much for a casual
but I was pretty happy with how LE lived up to the "you can think of a build and probably make it work" mystique
interested to see what they do with mage in season 5
until then, thanks again and 🫡

[harsh abyss]

Nice dude! LE is definitely the best ARPG for "Make it up as you go"

You totally tagged my impostor though

[glass iris]

Think that might have been the wrong tag 🤣

[cosmic dove]

LOL

somehow that seems fitting

I blame tab-complete

[weak sable]

imho not every build need to be viable for uber abby. like my main char ( https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/guggelhupf/character/TankSchmank ). uber is pain because of my "low" dmg but every other boss in the game was a cakewalk and im farming at c500 which is enough for me (pretty sure i could go higher but im fine). and if i really want farm uber abby than i do a oneshot rogue build just for this purpose.

[weary hamlet]

in this game? probably not but many other games have different non-standard damage scaling patterns, for instance this one is rather common in WOW

along with a few others like square root scaling, spread damage with below 100% scaling for extra targets, and so on

[weary hamlet]

I'm not completely off the season yet but the latest Old Realms update just released, kinda sucks that shaders take like 3 hours to compile on my old rig

corruption isn't too bad compared to most of their other mechanics, but it's sad that they still don't give a shit about balance

[cosmic dove]

yeah I ran into the same wall I do in every ARPG
the mechanics of progression are different but the underlying instructions are always "farm until your eyes bleed" which isnt for me
I had a single T2 (spine sword) and even it didn't have T7/T6 slam
I didnt see a single T7/T6 exalted and the only corruption that hit was a "max of range" on the weaver ammy
I just didnt have the time/energy to push the build any further

[proven haven]

To be fair you kinda picked a hard mode way to do it

Progression slows quicker when the build itself is also somewhat slow

[cosmic dove]

no doubt
I could have rolled sentinel or some other 1000c build and farmed stuff but I guess I am stubborn LOL

[proven haven]

Well I mean even among mage, meteor / bhole kinda hard

[harsh abyss]

If we only ever did the most optimal thing, there would only ever be 1 build per class

[proven haven]

Why even play the unoptimal classes xd

Rename myself FrozenRogue

[strange needle]

The new rogue build is quite unethical

[urban nest]

Because of personal enjoyment from playing a specific fantasy.
Who cares about optimal builds? Shiny spell go brrr. (And so does the enemies! Freeze the world!)

[strange needle]

But hey nerf warpath 🤣 or frogs

[weary hamlet]

which of them lol they got like 4 new builds that are completely busted

[strange needle]

All the shadow rend,plus umbral most op stuff ever made

[harsh abyss]

One day mage will get a turn to have a bunch of OP builds

[proven haven]

Copes

[strange needle]

But hey i am sure spellblade is balanced compared to that

[proven haven]

We copess

[strange needle]

I literally made it for lols and was like yeah nah ty I quit

[proven haven]

I just fully gave up this season and went full meme, its not so bad tbh

Though having such a weak economy game kinda sucks, id have more gold if I started a real build

[strange needle]

It one shots plus has incredible ward,max dodge and aoe its as insane as it can be

Yeah I have no will to play and most my friends too ty to new gear mindset

Every exalt I use is bye bye have a good time never seing you again

[strange needle]

You think ,you will find the strength to finish your black hole one shot later on

[proven haven]

Idunno havent had a chance to play in like.. 2 weeks

Probably?

Depends how hard it is

It just feels kinda sad to see rogue do it so easily for free

To put in all the effort for this gimmick

[strange needle]

Yeah with no gear

[proven haven]

That doesn't really do anything else

[strange needle]

It basically makes you feel like why i am even playing this

If that is 100 times better with no downsides

[proven haven]

Yep kinda

[strange needle]

Warpath has amazing clear,currently bugged but its bossing was not like S tier

[proven haven]

Any mage build I make is probably just going to be a class fantasy or meme build at this point. Since anyone looking to play something really strong has better class options. It's mostly just for people who enjoy the class, or think the build is cool

[harsh abyss]

Or people who dream of a better future 😢

[proven haven]

But if you make builds that look decent and they become popular

Then they get the spotlight and get nerfed all the same

Even if they are 3 tiers below the best shit xd

[harsh abyss]

Listen, no one is going to play channeled lightning blast except me 😝

[proven haven]

Tru

Idk could be neat

Could do like a dread zero to hero thing but abby is too trivial as a challenge unless its truly giga meme build

Like DPS snap freeze or something

And uber is way too high effort for the really meme stuff

[harsh abyss]

Lol dps snap freeze

If it had bonus damage based on shock chance, that could be a cool thing to pair with brand of deception

[proven haven]

Yeah if only

[summer galleon]

kinda wanna do dps glacier tbh

but I am scared for how ass it would be

[proven haven]

Its okay

I got like sub 20s dummy kill with testing

Did some troll dex stack with ice barrage thing for lols

Ladle and so on

[summer galleon]

unexpected I shall go cook a build

[eternal grove]

What's a good weapon I should use for Flame Reave before I can use the staff at level 74?

[harsh abyss]

Literally any staff is going to be good because you'll convert the spell damage to melee damage

Eventually get a Bladed Staff probably, but any of the ones that give melee and spell damage will be solid

[proper hawk]

whats the warpath bug?

[kindred oxide]

Really? This is my first season playing Mage and I thought Runemaster was always strong

I just remember everyone and their mothers playing Frost Claw RM.

TBH though, I'd rather play an "A-tier" build than an "S-tier"

[kindred oxide]

VK has a passive node called Void Well that consumes Essence stacks to restore them to 30% Mana whenever they bottom out.

When Warpath bottoms out, it stops your spin and you have to start it all over again.

Warpath is supposed to continue spinning through a Void Well proc. As you drop to 0% and instantly go to 30%, that's not supposed to stop your spin. But it does.

The bug fix they applied didn't work. People's spins are still getting interrupted.

[proper hawk]

oh i didn't realize it wasn't fixed lmao

thanks

[kindred oxide]

having your spin interrupted is the worst.

spin to win
not spin to...

[proper hawk]

not only that but it resets the ramping node right? so that basically cuts your dps by more than 50%

[kindred oxide]

that's why it sucks yeah. it needs to be built up, not just damage but range too

[sterile ledge]

is that a new bug? i remember void well being fine before?

[kindred oxide]

Not sure, I remember testing out Warpath in a previous season and it was fine. I'm assuming it's a this season thing.

[sterile ledge]

yeah, i loved it in s2

if the well proc is interrupting that makes me less want to go try it cause it was super fun before

[empty sundial]

anyone familiar with lightning blast builds? is that node that makes LB not chain to other enemies that good? seems to really hurt clear

[harsh abyss]

It kills clear, but you can use another skill for clear. Once you also go take the Halo Effect nodes, you get your clear back from lightning blast, and then it gets even better when you get the spark charge nodes

[left hill]

ward and other skill changes since earlier patches (change a few seasons back), plus some of the other classes getting huge power boosts

unrelated, I wish Maehlin converted the Bleed Duration from Symbol of Demise.

[teal hull]

has anyone tried using this in the flame rush tree? If the enemy had 999 stacks, wouldnt this hit me for 12k ward?

[empty sundial]

I have the spark charge nodes and the off hand unique

not enough points for the halo stuff

but that doesnt scale with INT like the other one

[kindred oxide]

ahh yeah, Ward in its earlier iteration had to be nerfed though. the new ward decay formula is better.

Idk I feel like Mage is still super strong.

[left hill]

ya, lose 12 ward per stack, if you don't have enough ward, lose 1% Current Health per leftover ignite, max 40% of Current Health

[vapid cosmos]

any mages around that could help me find a build

[elfin rapids]

I mean, you're right, Ubby shouldn't be the bar, but even for clearing i don't think Elemental Nova is gonna be good. If you want to try it anyway take a look at this: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7Grw34O

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (13) / Spellblade (18) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,304, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 285.83, Regen: 12.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 368%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 26 Dex / 184 Int / 26 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 57% / 33% / 189% / 30% / 30% / 56% / 56%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 263
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (104)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,523)

Used skills:

Elemental Nova / Flame Rush / Glyph of Dominion / Frost Wall / Runic Invocation

[elfin rapids]

Do you mean Halo Effect/Spark Nova? Since it is a subskill of Lightning Blast then it inherits all of Lightning Blast's scaling (including INT).

[elfin rapids]

Did you use Glacier for hit damage or you went the DoT/Ice Vortex route? I wonder if that route could be good.

[umbral perch]

I think last time it came up, people were not very impressed with Vortex. It has interesting synergy with Shatterstrike's node to trigger a random explosion, because you get the full Vortex from any explosion and can therefore disable the largest explosion for -80% mana cost (I am having a good time with this but I don't think it's very good). But using it as your primary damage source, even boosted by frost claw and ice barrage, I don't think people were impressed by the damage.

[robust junco]

Iirc Vortex main issue is it doesn't benefits from More Dmg inside Glacier

[proven haven]

Did hit

[elfin rapids]

Not even the Breaking Point node? That one is just "more damage" and the others only work for specific sizes of explosion. I know that it's written in Ice Vortex that it doesn't scale with other nodes in the tree, but there was one time i heard Mike explaining the logic behind Glacier and i thought maybe Breaking Point could work.

The logic explained is that Glacier is a skill that doesn't do damage by itself. When you cast it generates 3 subskills (the sized explosions) that do the damage. The ice vortex would be a 4th subskill. Maybe the reason why they wrote the vortex doesn't scale is because all nodes on Glacier only affect specific subskills (the explosions) but they forgot that Breaking Point affects the skill as whole lol

[robust junco]

I haven't tested myself tbh
I am going with what the tooltip says, but we know tooltips are... Not always accurate
Also someone else was complaining about that

It should be easy enough to test anyway

[weary hamlet]

wait didnt they fix this a while ago?

[robust junco]

It's not what the tooltip says

[noble reef]

not that i want to build around it but for science it would be cool to uderstand the interaction between this 2 nodes

i mean it doesn't chains anymore

[dull salmon]

Assuming the following four slots are locked down, what is the absolute most fire resistance I could accumulate as a mage of any sort?

• Crest of Unity
• Embers primordial amulet
• Ruby fang cleaver and shield

This yields a quadratic relationship between fire resistance and ignite damage with elemental nova

Alternatively, we ditch the amulet for the Entwined Legends ring and swap to the firestarter for that multiplier, but the flexibility there would have to make up for changing a 1.7 multiplier to a 1.4

[weary hamlet]

you always get full benefit of frontloaded

not that it helps focal blast much

[full bluff]

Did someone say play channeled elemental nova, screen wide aoe

heh damage is so bad it hurts to even play against normal monsters

[main meadow]

I found that ignite elemental nova was good for leveling (with some good uniques) but it is bad for endgame
Couldn't find a build that scales ignite to the point it gets good

I've been playing Flame Reave and it is fine...gameplay feels clunky and boring

[proven haven]

Maybe 1400 ish?

Its kinda bad scaling though

The ratios just suck, regardless of scaling off multiple things

[summer galleon]

does it have a general planner or an idea framework

it will be my last try before this season is closed

[proven haven]

I did mourningfrost, ladle, some dex, crit, ice barrage for more cold, and I forget what else

Just spam

Think I had enough mana to be neutral sustain

Iirc disabled the big glacier went full medium for damage

Kinda troll since dex stack is fairly awkward for defense

[summer galleon]

hmhm

allright nothing 5hours on the planner cant fix

ty

[left hill]

wait, what's the value of Ruby Fang here? how is Melee Poison Chance per fire res helping with ignites on Elemental Nova? what am I missing?

[dull salmon]

Oh wait, right, I was forgetting that I was converting the poison chance on a different character. Don't think we can do that with nova.

[cold nexus]

where the top tier meteor builds

[full bluff]

this is how I play meteor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDlXt-jYXE, several variants possible, max damage, fast cast, slow cast, max spread and area

[versed hawk]

time to theorycraft

[cold nexus]

oh i think you linked me the other day, i forgot. ty!

damn bruh is yr widescreen like 5 monitors long?

bro is playing at his local AMC

[full bluff]

It is like 3 regular monitors

[full bluff]

Regular mono clear is pretty relaxed with all that area and wide screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y_7j0Bp3bo

[runic delta]

is fire aura spellblade easy to get in to at lower levels?

[left hill]

from other folks that tried it, it seemed to work better at lower levels actually, and kind of drop off later

[short spoke]

not before lvl 25-30

[runic delta]

I want to play lightning blast but it needs a unique

So thats why I settled for fire aura even though the AoE is extremely small

[short spoke]

well, yea you wont be getting aoe range increases til much later, unles your playing legacy and already have them

mage idols are pretty easy to get fire aura stats, however

get a few fire aura stats and a box that magnafies them, you be laughing

[runic delta]

Dunno just finished campaign

Played rogue till lvl 80 and got bored of it

[hollow bolt]

i think you should wait to unlock firebrand to play fire aura. flame reave unntil then hard carries

[runic delta]

im level 54 already have everything

[hollow bolt]

yeah then you should be good to go

[dull lynx]

can you explain why some of the lightning meteor builds are using frost claw and elemental nova? I dont see how they cast meteor and how the other skills come into play (like I know frostclaw can trigger nova, but beyond that not seeing the synergy)

[full bluff]

Meteors have a node that casts up to 3 frost claws per meteor. Frost claw has a node that can trigger elemental nova. By using this chain triggering you can get a lot of hits, get spark charges from elemental nova. It works well for lower corruption clear, but I found that the damage effect drops off as monsters get more tanky and the skill spec and meteor node points are better spent on just boosting the meteor itself.

[harsh abyss]

That sounds about like I'd expect

[dull lynx]

ty, forgot about heat flux

[full bluff]

Frost claw hitting 50 times is great for large numbers of weak targets, but when the hit is 35k that adds up to 1.7M damage in total. When a single meteor hits for 2M. Those 3 points = 45% more damage on the meteor. 6 meteors at 2M +45%...

Thats 5.4M damage

The number of hits are useful for shred

So there is not a clear right or wrong way here

[harsh abyss]

@weary hamlet Another example of trigger overload, lol

[full bluff]

With low area modifier for meteor, I would play the trigger way for clear

I don't have 2 spec skill slots to spare, need frost wall, teleport, focus, flame ward 🙂

[harsh abyss]

If you take the -area and the More Area nodes together, it equals out to about the same area as base meteor

45% less and 100% more is 110% total area

Unless the radius reduction on Meteor Shower is "reduced" and not "less" (wording unclear)

[full bluff]

yeah, I have experimented a lot with the combinations

The +fall radius nodes are great when you have extra area from items. Then you get massive spread and overlap

For that full screen clear

[harsh abyss]

yeah, makes sense.

That's probably how I'd play meteor

[full bluff]

For sustain and massive fast clear I aim at killing almost everything with one 6 meteor shower cast. Then move on. I change it a bit for harder bosses, but that is the rare fight for me.

Everything but uber bosses are stun locked anyway, so doesn't matter much

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I bet with the new damage effectiveness on meteor, stunning almost everything is a breeze

[full bluff]

Monsters are either dead or stunned if they get hit

Then open nemesis and a tiny beetle one shots me

[harsh abyss]

#justmagethings

Just play the "Ethical Sorcerer" and convert most of your damage taken to mana

[weary hamlet]

yea it was the first build I played this season

[runic delta]

is there any other reliable webpage apart from maxroll?

[harsh abyss]

lastepochtools.com is far superior

I like the layout and presentation way more

[valid wharf]

guys, im looking for a very fast build, playing heartseeker rn and its kinda fun, but i saw that Lightning Blast Runemaster and it looks really sick, i tested it but the mana is kind of a problem bc it only works when u stand still and teleport everytime, is there any way get better mana sustain without standing still for the buffs from the boots

[proven haven]

Yea you dont use the boot version

[proven haven]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/he1sop0i here

[runic delta]

Dunno seems a mess to me XD

[vivid wedge]

Yeah for builds I like I usually rewrite them in LE tools

Maxroll kind of a mess and doesn't calculate things totally right

[runic delta]

maybe its just because im used to maxroll

but lastepochtools seems to not be updated very often

[unborn hamlet]

I bypass my mana issues with LB by having corrupted mana gain on potion use

On my Orian belt

I get 12mana from the belt itself, another 15 extra from the corruption, dunno how much extra mana from int + laddle

I chug a pot for about 120 mana gain on each potion

Only little rough patch is Ubber fight , since I have to move a lot but Ubber doesn't drop too many of em, gotta manage a little there by standing still during phases where I can

[harsh abyss]

I'm the opposite, I feel like maxroll is nedlessly complicated. The only part of LETools i really use is the planner though, so 🤷‍♀️

[valid wharf]

aaaahh didnt know that !! thank you ❤️

also, many items are using corruption bc its really good, is there any other way to get the exact mod ? or just rng and use rune of corruption ?

[left hill]

in my experience if there's anything out of date or not calc'ing properly Dammitt updates it pretty fast if you mention it in their discord bugs channel. Like, I mentioned something not calculating and they updated it literally in 10 minutes

[harsh abyss]

Just random

[vivid wedge]

Last I knew maxroll still wasn't doing spider ammy stuff right

[inner wagon]

So the build comes online around 150 int or so. You can manage mana with standing still or constantly moving around with that much int with wand plus orian descent belt

Obviously biggest spike is 200 int where you are 100% crit with the lightning set

But if your concern is bosses like Uber abberoth yeah you need to stand still

You only need to worry about mana conservation is if you are spamming firewall while mapping

If you constantly chug some mana pots here and there you won't have mana issues around 150 int or so

Int in the beginning is the biggest bonus for lightning blast. Use blessings and idols if you are missing resistances. If you find 1 lp try to slap max int till 180 to 200 then look for other stuff

[strong lake]

What's good HP and Ward for Spell blade? Currently at 4k HP and a sustained 10k Ward

[desert steppe]

has anyone tried flame reave with palarus?

[strong lake]

Palarus is not that good when you can't use the smite skill tree. It's just a generic proc

[desert steppe]

I'm thinking of double dipping str/int with cleaver and using palarus to gain flat spell damage

[strong lake]

what are you double dipping with str and int?

[desert steppe]

which then gets turned into flat melee again for flame reave

so you get armor, int scaling stuff (4% dmg, ward retention) and flat melee (from flat spell conversion) by stacking strength

[strong lake]

I guess it could work. Would require a lot of T7's and high LP rolls

[desert steppe]

I wish we had a working dps calc 😄

[carmine abyss]

just killed uber aberoth for the 1st time after 3hours trying...

[eternal grove]

Should I go for Fireball or Mana Strike as 5th skill on Flame Reave?

[carmine abyss]

😫

qq can LB build use red rings?

I've never seen a build planner wearing a red ring though

[vivid wedge]

Replaces ferebor iirc

[carmine abyss]

ohhh okay i will try it

thx

[idle oxide]

Hi from primalist section

Mages r cool

Ok bye

Rawr 🦁

[rough mirage]

That's how i rushed my flame reave mage through campaign until i saw able to equip Jormun's. Most fun playthrough i had.

Speaking of, how's Jasper's spear better than Jormun's ? I want to undestand it as someone who's relatively new to the game.

[desert steppe]

just a lot more flat I guess?

[rough mirage]

Maybe it's that searing something buff it gives. It's just that i'm getting lower DPS numbers, so maybe i'm missing something.

[unkempt tide]

I feel like iv hit a wall even with all the right gear for my build, am I doing something wrong or am I just at a point where I need to grind

[unborn hamlet]

Keep in mind that's like super aspirational stuff , like 2LP red ring perfect slam perfect rolls and perfect corruption, otherwise losing the skill point from legends entwined bonus is a big DPS loss

It's easier to swap from twisted heart to shattered worlds for the DMG reduction, more stats more int so it's more DMG as well, and generally speaking, your runic invoc shield should generate more than enough ward to keep you alive

You also have permanent haste

[carmine abyss]

thank you!

I find more skill points better for uber. currently having 35 lb skill pts

is shattered world better than twisted heart?

[unborn hamlet]

It might take time to get used to it, but I personally think it's way better

+10 to all and 9%+ DMG reduction is priority

Crit chance doesn't matter for us, and the effect of frenzy is situational (unless you roll perma frenzy corruption on it)

Twisted you spam skills to generate your shield, with SW you need to keep your runic shield up at all times (the cool down is shorter than the buff so it's fine)

[strong lake]

Lvl 58....the Volcanus Spell Blade is now ONLINE!!!

[robust junco]

Whats the mtx on the weapon ?

Looks dope

[strong lake]

That's Volcanus's default updated model

[proven haven]

I prefer RR with T7 int for echoes, 2T7 Stardial for bossing, and ferebor for a balanced no item swap setup.

[robust junco]

Wow !!

[kindred oxide]

I use both

My teleport has no points in it but is on my skill bar instead of teleport fireball

[median tapir]

Teleport instead of teleport

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, teleport is way better

[unborn hamlet]

flame rush is the superior movement skill

[eternal grove]

That means you don’t have surge spec’d right?

I think I like that option better too

[strong lake]

Yeah it's pretty cool

[strong lake]

Man spell blade kinda nasty. All I have is a Volcanus equip and i'm just mowing down all timelines while climbing to empowered

[harsh abyss]

I can imagine firebrand volcanus is pretty strong

Magma shards is one of the rare item-triggered abilities that hasn't been rate limited (yet)

[kindred oxide]

Yeah surge is cool but a bit janky. Have to spend 10 skill points just to extend its range and give it iframes so it can dash through death puddles.

Teleport with no skill points already has infinite range and teleports through lot more. Obv way better for mapping.

And even though you cast a flame reave at the end, I'm pretty sure it only makes up for dps lost during its travel time and doesn't actually add damage.

[eternal grove]

I'm finding teleport a littttlle clunky actually, at least on controller

It teleports a fixed distance whereas surge snaps to your target if there is one

feels a bit better in bossing at least

gonna stick with teleport for a bit

[kindred oxide]

Yeah teleport with fixed distance is weird.

clicking where you want to end up is really convenient

[harsh abyss]

Yeah that's why I prefer it over other travel abilities

[radiant vessel]

I actually prefer surge over teleport, at least on squishy builds

It's generally safer

And it feels really smooth once you get the cooldown to around 2s

[kindred oxide]

Surge is a bit more responsive. Teleport has a bit of a delay. It doesn't count as instant cast so it'll stop your Mana regen for 1s, if that matters to you

[nimble shoal]

Unspecced surge is real lame tho imo

[kindred oxide]

Feels like spellblade already needs a rework tho.

Ngl, spell procs off of melee attacks just never took off.

Spellblade just gets sheer damage from its big melee attacks because of dex+int scaling and a really good skill tree.

Fire aura is the biggest disappointment

Needs more spell, less blade.

[harsh abyss]

Ironically, they have the opposite problem that POE has, triggering spells just seems to be less valuable than self casting them.

[left hill]

really doesn't help that, as far as I can tell, the typed melee damage is still bugged to not convert to spells. so like the core mastery feature is broken

[kindred oxide]

Maybe playing it too safe.

[harsh abyss]

Yeha, this is a big problem

[kindred oxide]

Yeah lol. That might just be an oversight

It's not just that too. Even if that was fixed, you're still putting your eggs in two baskets.

Also, int + dex builds get crit so easily with defender of welryn and Prodigy nodes.

flame reave and shatter strike are powerful because they are the least spellbladey and don't follow the melee attack to proc spellcast theme.

[left hill]

sure, but this benefits spells too (just not Fire Aura/other DOTs)

like, the melee->spell proc style has some problems with direct cast requirements and other things, but I don't think the crit specifically is a problem for melee->spell.

[harsh abyss]

Crit isn't really a problem for any mage build these days

[kindred oxide]

Yeah not a problem but a source of the imbalance between spellblades who get their damage from their melee attack vs ones who try to get it from their spell procs.

Cuz the latter doesn't work

And the former works really well

[left hill]

but it's not a source of imbalance for that. bc the crit applies to both.

the source of imbalance comes from things besides crit chance

[kindred oxide]

Yeah but if your damage is focused on the spell proc, I can't imagine you'd have 70 points in dex and the defender of welryn node.

So you just don't take that node. But melee does and their crit is instantly solved

That's the point

[left hill]

but if you're spell focused you grab the Sorc node for 3% increased crit per Int right at the start of their tree

[kindred oxide]

Melee damage based benefits from the strongest node on the tree

[left hill]

so you get flat and increased both scaling off Int

[kindred oxide]

Ahh ic.

I've never tried to build it that way, I just think defender of welryn is such a huge asset to spellblade

And a big reason the good builds are good.

[kindred oxide]

How fast is LB Runemaster killing Uber

Assuming I guess moderately geared.

[celest lintel]

dont take long really

[kindred oxide]

Sub 1 min?

[celest lintel]

i could probably get 60 seconds if i locked him up in the right abilities

i could stream it if you want

[kindred oxide]

Just curious bout their Dmg output

[celest lintel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/johnrhynes/character/Zap

ill hop on and kill regular abby RQ place echo

so you can se

[kindred oxide]

Just approx time is fine. Thank you!

[celest lintel]

i dunno i play with numbers off ill time it right now

[proven haven]

I was already sub 1 with LB in 1.3 tbh

With not quite full 2t7s

And not stardial / glass cannon setup

[kindred oxide]

Yeah just regular gear.

[inner wagon]

Fire aura can't crit

[proven haven]

I'd expect maybe low 40, if you have full crazy legacy shit Im sure someone could do better

[kindred oxide]

Yeah that's pretty strong. In prev seasons I've gotten sub 1m on diff classes.

My flame reave is usually 1:20-1:30. I would need insane gear to get it below that, would rather just invest in another char haha

[proven haven]

#🎥┃video-shoutout message this was before I further minmaxed

Think didnt even have 2t7 body yet

[celest lintel]

https://www.twitch.tv/johnrhynes uber abby rq

guess ill do prison too i got one

[kindred oxide]

I'm at work can't watch streams

Was just wondering it's dps output

[proven haven]

Thing is that the uptime is really good

You kinda just glide around and each phase is a few seconds

[kindred oxide]

Yeah sweet. Def not a fan of the one-shot builds

I feel like A-tier is the sweet spot in this game.

Still strong but have to work for it

[proven haven]

Idk if LB is S tier anymore

Or if the new S tier pushed everything else down

[kindred oxide]

Yah the maxroll tiers are a bit arbitrary and inaccurate

[inner wagon]

More like lb got nerfed

[proven haven]

What

[inner wagon]

DMG got reduced by 40% or so

[proven haven]

No

[inner wagon]

?

Fragment got nerfee

Halved

[proven haven]

Yep

I have a spreadsheet for all that

[celest lintel]

You are talking to THE LB GUY

[proven haven]

Here; #🎥┃video-shoutout message
I went over the math of 1.4 changes in this video

[celest lintel]

frozen sentinel has spreadsheets from before both of us were born bro

he knows what hes talkin bout

[proven haven]

Even before talking about the new idols which are crazy or corruption, the DPS loss was less than 20%. After new stuff DPS is higher

[kindred oxide]

Yeah corruption and new idols gives a lot

Basically global buffs.

[celest lintel]

LB is in a really goos spot right now

feels really good with the amulet this season

[kindred oxide]

What would it take for LB to be good, when cast by swinging a sword? 😂

[proven haven]

I mean

A lot really

The good nodes in the tree dont work with indirect lol

Plus you can get huge cast speed now

Like 6+ cast per second vs

Whatever shit melee is doing

[kindred oxide]

Yeah melees not hitting 6x a second loool

[proven haven]

Thats just direct casts

[kindred oxide]

Yep haha

[proven haven]

Then you have recast, direct onky

And extra chains

The plus side is that you dont need as many skill points for indirect

[kindred oxide]

I think creating the dichotomy between direct and indirect casts takes a lot of the allure away from spell procs. Too restrictive.

Fun police text.

[proven haven]

Also

Proc builds kinda pay a steep skill slot tax imo

Give spellhlsde like +1 or 2 skill slots as a special bonus

[kindred oxide]

Like gear wise or skill nodes

[proven haven]

Spellblade

Skill slots

[kindred oxide]

Ahh yeah

[proven haven]

Like specializations

[kindred oxide]

Yup lol

[proven haven]

Every trigger is ass if you dont spec

Which takes a lot of space

[left hill]

also since Enchant Weapon is basically a mandatory tax

[kindred oxide]

For what should be spellblades most important skill

Enchant Weapon sure has a lot of mandatory nodes

[harsh abyss]

I think the theory is that spellblade builds have going for them is multi-triggers: So like when you're using Mana Strike to trigger LB, Frost Claw, Mana Arc, 4x Spark Charges, and Static Orb, that's a lot of spells flying out.

[carmine abyss]

QQ, what is better for Lb? spell lightning dmg or % lightning dmg

[harsh abyss]

Flat damage > % damage, most of the thtime

[carmine abyss]

even for idols?

I should get flat instead of %?

[harsh abyss]

For idols for LB, you want to be looking for the ones that give "cast speed with aegis" and "lightning damage with aegis"

[celest lintel]

@Frozen i didnt say earlier but i appreciate your work. unfortunate timing on your imprint video timing. I think with the addition of corruption they could have left imprinting the same and the addition of another "lp" at every level would have elongated playtime a satisfactory amount

[carmine abyss]

thats adorned idol? and can only have one? but I am talking about large idols

[harsh abyss]

It depends on your math. There's a certain point where more %increased damage is more valuable than flat damage, depending on how much flat and %increased you have. Frozen is the math guy who could probably tell you where that balance lies.

[carmine abyss]

ohhhh. ok. I am wearing carcinised altar instead of pyramid. because I can get 75% armor. is this bad?

[harsh abyss]

🤷‍♀️

[celest lintel]

not bad but suboptimal

more armor isnt bad

[harsh abyss]

The reason Pyramid is best is because you can get the most idols into the refracted slots

If you don't have a pyramid that gives you a good amount of increased effect of prefixes/suffixes, then a different altar might be better

[carmine abyss]

or max omen idol slots?

hmmm altars are hard to find

[carmine abyss]

I see.. can still clear uberoth but slower I think

[harsh abyss]

If you have enough good omen idols to make it worth it, lol

I just never expect that to be the case

[carmine abyss]

nope only one so far.. its hard to farm them..

omen chain might be the only way to get tons of them but my LB having a hard time clearing those

also having a hard time clearing omen windows after 1000 corruptions

[median tapir]

Just creat a rogue

Easier gering and way more power

[carmine abyss]

sadge

is it fun to play though?

I know its op

[median tapir]

If u nit play the 1shot build yes

Not

When

Ill link u my scuffed rogue and he already killed uber and can ez farm 1500 corruption +

[harsh abyss]

You can edit your messages 😝

[carmine abyss]

oh you mean shadow cascade

[median tapir]

And my setup is really bad

[median tapir]

Yes

[proven haven]

I hadn't fully mathed the flat vs increased yet with 1.4 but in 1.3 increased won.

I think its possible in 1.4 flat wins since;

1. You can get more increased for free from higher int values and other sources

2. You have less flat to begin with from enigma nerf

[median tapir]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Damalius/character/Rogueliuss

Look at this bad gear

And its already stronger than my lb

So dumb

[carmine abyss]

ohh yeah I have one large idol with 18% lightning dmg and +2 spell lightning dmg.. but the skill tooltips shows flat spell dmg has higher dps ..

[proven haven]

Tooltip doesnt account for spark charge damage and a bunch of other conditionals but yeah

[kindred oxide]

I need a new build to try now. Maybe within mage. Like sorc or runemaster.

I did rip blood warlock. Its damage was impressive, clearing uber sub 2 mins in mostly starter endgame gear. Fun to build but not fun enough to keep playing.

Open to suggestions, if anyone had a blast playing a certain build this season lol.

Pref uber worthy, but not interested in cheezing him.

[proven haven]

Idk try to make focus work. Added flat applies as a much higher than stated effectiveness, should go well with madness

[carmine abyss]

sadge but ok I am gonna try rogue now

[median tapir]

Its so ez to build

[kindred oxide]

Do sorcs usually take focus?

[median tapir]

U just hold 3 Buttons and win

[proven haven]

Idk, I do when I play sorc

Could do as RM too

[carmine abyss]

still prefer LB but will see, thx 😫

[proven haven]

Probably sorc if going mana tank

[median tapir]

I also did but

[kindred oxide]

Rogue is probably the only class I haven't tried in LE

[median tapir]

U can so ez clear everything without dying

[proven haven]

Yeah rogue is always busted, did a bit in 1.2, was busted

Got bored

[kindred oxide]

Was it Falconer? yea geez. Devs must love rogue.

Rogue is allowed to one-tap uber every season

[median tapir]

And this time with 2 builds

[kindred oxide]

But God forbid we proc more than one fire aura per two seconds

That would be too busted

[proven haven]

Sentinel and rogue OP? Bear oneshot uber? Better nerf enigma

And wrongwarp

[strange needle]

If anyone haven't seen the level 38 rogue uber kill,1.4 has the best balance of any league so far

[celest lintel]

lol

[carmine abyss]

wait what?

are we allowed to talk about rogue in this channel though? coz I didnt join one

[strange needle]

You can talk any other classes as long it doesn't last forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMuBTEDrr5E this was shared yesterday I just shared it on my other discord channel funny to see

[carmine abyss]

I have a lvl 48 rogue. tried shadow cascade but lacking mana .. also had two rings with mana affix

[kindred oxide]

Rogues kinda just sneak about wherever they like. We allow it.

[carmine abyss]

welp.

[kindred oxide]

😂

[runic delta]

what is the best spellblade variant? ive seen lightning, fire, ice...

[kindred oxide]

Depends what you wanna be best at, but imo flame reave is a god

[runic delta]

The one from gringo?

[marsh furnace]

frenzy is just better here compared to haste? generates frenzy with surge

[kindred oxide]

Idk what that is sry

[runic delta]

gringo gaming youtuber thats where I saw the fire weaver one

[marsh furnace]

use the maxroll one, im at corruption 750 ezpz can push further but gonna farm here

[kindred oxide]

Ahh yah I'm playing my own version. I don't even know any content creators tbh lol

I would recommend the maxroll version, it's built for quality of life

[runic delta]

Yeah maxroll is the one im using

[runic delta]

Im not intelligent enough for this yet

[kindred oxide]

Nah I was just on a path before maxroll guide came out and too stubborn to wanna change lol!

But the build is fun and strong. Can't ask for more than that.

Easy to build. easy to play.

[marsh furnace]

ya everything in lizard's guide is pretty well thought out, there are alternate setups but his is the easiest to play & build

[runic delta]

ill stick to maxroll for then now ty

[inner wagon]

Depends on your corrupted idols

[marsh furnace]

I got this one equipped with frenzy

and this one

I'm trying to get one with high rolls + t7 hybrid health + frenzy corrupt, gonna have to try few more slams

[inner wagon]

So yeah I assume frenzy is better for you

[carmine abyss]

qq do I still have to clear quest echo and gather harbingers on my mule account if I use confluence of oblivion? (for unlocking empowered monolith I mean)

[nimble shoal]

You only need to kill the timeline boss + harbinger of one of the level 90 timelines to unlock empowered

[carmine abyss]

ah I see. thanks. but do I still need to do confluence of oblivion on my lvl 100 account?

[nimble shoal]

For a new alt char, yes you need to do one confluence, then the rest you get the catchup shades for

[inner wagon]

What is a timeline boss?

[strong lake]

When you collect enough "Stability" in a timeline you can start the "Boss event" to beat the timeline and reset all monolith nodes in said timeline. There are three of these monolith zones that are lvl 90. Age of winter, Age of fire, And Last ruin. Beating any of these lvl 90 zones will spawn in a "Harbinger" a second boss that will absorb the skills of the defeated timeline boss and use them along their normal moveset. Beat this lvl 90 Harbinger and you will unlock the ability to "empower" timelines making them lvl 100

[inner wagon]

Ah got it

Yeah that confused me

[spring crag]

okay

stupid question

should any Reowyn's Fortress build use madness?

because they will lose quite a lot of ward (and as result, flat dmg) for doing to for some additional crit multi

[inner wagon]

Who needs to live when your enemies are dead?

[strong lake]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B5Par2m6

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (28) / Spellblade (77) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,111, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 197.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 396%, Regen: 233/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 16 Dex / 91 Int / 2 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 269% / 101% / 97% / 115% / 109% / 104% / 109%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 622
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (203)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 59% (4,213)

Used skills:

Firebrand / Flame Reave / Enchant Weapon / Volcanic Orb / Flame Ward

[strong lake]

Am I cooking or am I cooked

oh oops forgot to put in my last flame ward points

[left hill]

yes

[strong lake]

good good. I love cooking on the grill while also on fire

[spring crag]

shatterstike still better for bossing but flame reave is best for general in my opinion

hmm

right now

which is better

lightning meteor

or

static orb

[kindred oxide]

yeah i agree!

[proven haven]

Probably SO

[spring crag]

does the infernal prism node by elemental nove penetrates global elemental resistance (cause enemies to take increased damage from all elemental attacks) or only cause enemies to take increased damage from elemental nova?

[harsh abyss]

It only affects elemental nova

[next adder]

im a new player... what to improve ???

[robust junco]

Holy

Gaspar Doom Pulse and the Void gloves, forgot their name

You're cooking

[next adder]

what corruption do you think i am at ?

[robust junco]

Idk, 300?

[next adder]

not even empowered

[robust junco]

Lol

[strange needle]

So when is ehg gonna make this node scale with frenzy effect since 1.4 many of sources of frenzy get scaling from stacking frenzy effect,rend got a node with more damage that now scales with frenzy effect since last hotfix

[nimble shoal]

I would guess they will do it 8 days ago

[strange needle]

Hopefully rogue shouldn't get all the love👍

[nimble shoal]

Just to be clear, I mean they did it in last hotfix, same as shadow rend

[strange needle]

Cool good to know

Time to brutality rampancy on that then

[umbral perch]

Any good ways the get frenzy as spellblade besides butchers crown?

[unborn hamlet]

bro really asking EHG to give mages anything

dont worry we are getting another 50% enigma nerf

[nimble shoal]

Relic corruption always works, but also that flame reave node screenshotted above

[desert steppe]

guys how viable is a frostclaw-based build nowadays?

[proven haven]

You could probably put together a B tier FC

It just has terrible more multis and high mana cost

Frostbite kinda okay ish, but doesnt really scale that well

[desert steppe]

what about as a vehicle to proc other stuff?

[proven haven]

Sure yea. Thats an option. Its a lot of hits

Meteor FC etc. Tech is like 182 hits

[desert steppe]

👀

[proven haven]

I posted the math a while back but you can chain a bunch of shit with spark nova

And ele nova and spark charge etc

You can also do dex stack with double dip mourningfrost

There's probably something you can do with the FC idol affixes now, its pretty decent

[desert steppe]

how does meteor FC work again?

[unborn hamlet]

pretty sure its something to do with the unique belt proccing meteors from crit hits?

since FC hits a lot

[desert steppe]

ah, so use belt to proc meteor that then procs fc

[unborn hamlet]

like fully specced claw is like 20 hits a cast

i played it before, but i was using only ele nova, full screen disco party , but its pretty weak dmg wise

frostbite is just a really weak ailment

[desert steppe]

I thought it would've had more hit scaling with the 5 projectile hits

😔