🧙┃mage

[proven haven]

With corrupts now

[harsh abyss]

I was thinking about the abdandoned weaver set with weaver weapons that give shred. Or the primordial mace that doubles an exalted sword with shred.

OR if you can convert shred to frostbite and then frostbite to bleed with the gloves.

[proven haven]

Dont think you can double convert

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I wasnt sure about that one

Its too bad the RM node is spells only, would be cool to use that on a cold melee build

[left hill]

yeah, harmony shatter strike shred->frostbite would be spicy

[weary hamlet]

probably not worth it compared to just running double yruns

and that is a lot less hoops to jump through

I abandoned my essence weaver build (again) cause rolling at least a passable weaver weapon is a pain

also you can probably kill uber with the double yrun VO frostbite, I might try it some time later

this season

[nimble shoal]

Ailments can double convert (though I'm pretty sure the bleed gloves will do their conversion before the armor shred to frostbite conversion)

[hollow bolt]

im playing erasking strike but may swap to flame reave for uber. uber on es rn is not very fun

[green dome]

@granite condor Added you as a friend to discuss some feedback you provided 🙂

[river kayak]

Hey all, I'm playing shatterstrike and using diothaen's bloody quill like the guide says, but the bleed damage kills me pretty often. How am I supposed to avoid that? Thanks

[left hill]

max physical resist; armor->DOT mitigation gloves implicit, gloves experimental affix, and/or weaver set ring (reforged works); and ward generation generally

[inner wagon]

Isn't there exsang that makes you immune to bleeds at low health

Can mix and match until your whole loadout is up and running

[kindred oxide]

Im an Erasing Strike lover but playing Flame Reave right now.

The fight feels very similar on both classes. Similar kill speed, face similar issues. The frustrations on ES, you will also face on FR.

I've killed Uber on a few different specs now , and my impression of Flame Reave was "that felt like Erasing Strike but a little bit harder."

[hollow bolt]

Gotcha. Mana void well is what kills me the most on es

[kindred oxide]

How much max Mana you at?

[hollow bolt]

1100

[kindred oxide]

Do you have a planner link?

Yeah that's good enough I think. Season 2 is diff prob but I was at around that.

[hollow bolt]

season 2 is way diff because es strike damage back then was insane

[kindred oxide]

It is a hard fight on ES. Honest clear, not cheezy like old Falconer or Paladin.

Ahh. nerfed now? I wonder how it compares nowadays

[hollow bolt]

yeah i guess on flame reave you have the benefit of being pseudo ranged

[kindred oxide]

The damage at distance is cut in half, it maintains your throne of ambition. And you need to hit a mana strike every now and then. Which has tiny range.

[hollow bolt]

they nerfed the damage on the node thats gives you 2x damage with the 2 handed axe node and also 20% less damage on removing the cooldown node. but the new corrupt on ws makes that damage up

[kindred oxide]

Lmao that node was turbo busted. Hahaha

I notice also world splitter no longer goes to 0.5

[hollow bolt]

you can still get similar damage with the ws corrput and idols as you dont need the tiny mana idols anymore because of idol alter

[kindred oxide]

I felt attack speed was a bit of a trap on Erasing Strike too. Even at 1500 Mana I bottom out without it.

Because of frenzy

I did not like attack speed on gloves

[hollow bolt]

im mg and getting multiple lp items is was cheaper on flame reave than vk because those warpath dads jack up the price

[carmine abyss]

cant pick up items lel

[kindred oxide]

Yeah fair point. Maybe flame reave is the way to go.

Max roll put out a flame reave build finally. The website didn't recognize it as a build til now haha.

Their build focuses a lot more on fire aura to sustain Mana and no Mana strike. Uses fireball proc to shred Armor further.

[hollow bolt]

yeah i saw that and also ignite i believe

with fireball

[kindred oxide]

I like the fireball idea but instead of dropping Mana strike, I will drop all my points from teleport.

No surge or teleport skills.

And have Tele on my bar.

I think that would be better damage for me.

I learned a lot from what they did but I think I like the mana strike more

Each fireball is 325 Armor shred, and I get three per 2 sec. That's probably better than everything I'm getting from the teleport tree

[sacred kite]

I must be blind, where is the armor shred coming from?

oh legendary affix on the amulet, got it

[kindred oxide]

Oh yeah. The amulet as well as an additional 100 from one of the nodes in fireball.

Since any on hit effect will proc shred.

[sacred kite]

The one in the fireball tree is fire resist shred, no?

Clarifying because I've been trying to squeeze armor shred into things lol

[harsh abyss]

Correct, armor shred and fire shred are different things

[kindred oxide]

Oops I misread it

That's actually even better then

[cosmic dove]

is there any good reason to push over 300 corr for farming?

[kindred oxide]

Increased drop rate

Okay I'm trying this fireball tech when I get home. If I'm getting another damage bucket out of fireball, it's worth losing points from teleport.

[inner wagon]

Check tunklabs for scaling

[restive socket]

Hey mages fam. With the adjusted mastery passive for spellblade (turns 40% of added melee dmg on weapon as spell damage) would that mean that +melee void damage adds void spell damage or generic spell damage

[left hill]

iirc it's bugged right now and only passes through adaptive melee damage, not typed melee damage. someone can correct me if I'm wrong

[restive socket]

Good to know! Ty

[harsh abyss]

Unless they've done a hotfix this is correct

[kindred oxide]

I'll have to test actually to see if my fire shred from blessing caps me as is. Pretty sure it does

If that's the case, all fireball does for me is shred armor

[inner wagon]

Which is still good

[kindred oxide]

Yeah there is a set of nodes that procs another hit every third fireball.

Even if it is a tiny boost, the Teleport tree is only providing me with ward and Armor.

[unborn hamlet]

may i introduce to you the superior movement skill called flame rush

[harsh abyss]

@weary hamlet Countenance of Mana still works as long as you don't put points into Chain Lightning or Arcing Power. With a good staff/wand and Foot of the Mountain, you can get the channel cost to 9 or 10, which is pretty manageable.

I had a cool idea of using the Mage weaver relic to make it so missing mana gives you endurance threshold, then Wall of Nothing gives you Decay Threshold based on Endurance Threshold 🤔 But I think the relic might be bugged, my Endurance Threshold isn't increasing as I drain my mana.

Pairing that with "Damage taken from mana before health" seems like an interesting synergy, especially when you add Seed of Ekkidrasil to the mix.

[uneven oasis]

Trying to make a decent lightning meteor sorc. Struggling hard with mana, any uniques / set pieces that might help even temporarily as I’m gearing up?

[full bluff]

Have you tried using Mana Guide and Focus?

[sterile ledge]

just punched the air, its not uber but janky ass direct cast fire only meteor takes down aberroth

[full bluff]

Meteor is great this season 🙂

[sterile ledge]

i had no chance doing this nonsense in s2, couldnt even get to the 300 corruption. I know im being janky with the build by not using the lightning stuff, but im so glad its still even this viable to just cast meteor and nothing else offensive 😄

[sterile ledge]

now trying to work out whether its gonna be better to use keplahans set for the fire damage vs ferebors for the intelligence

42-50% fire damage vs 4 intelligence. Like the intelligence is good for the stat stacking side of things, but its pretty negligible right?

[full bluff]

Are you using frost claw and elemental nova procs with meteor?

[sterile ledge]

neither

truly fire only

lmao

literally just casting meteor and flame ward and teleport. nothing else proccing off casts

[full bluff]

Thats all you need, should be 30% less damage than lightning version, but still good

would you concider using fire wall?

[sterile ledge]

i mean, if its not going to make this already janky ass build worse by losing a bunch of points in the sorc tree

fire wall sounds like its fine for me 😄

[full bluff]

Fire wall is great for ward sustain against omens

[sterile ledge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrX0gbqP

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (80) / Runemaster (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,160, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 1,158.97, Regen: 24.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 172%, Regen: 182/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 34 Dex / 80 Int / 26 Att / 47 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 84% / 101% / 140% / 79% / 95% / 146%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 432
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (204)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (2,016)
▸ Block Chance: 1%, Mitigation: 7% (42)

Used skills:

Fireball / Flame Rush / Meteor / Teleport / Flame Ward

[sterile ledge]

Thats what i'm currently at, if you can work out a way to put it in

(yes items are waaaay off being perfect)

im guessing, drop 2 points of wisdom, put them in focus?

[full bluff]

Several options there

Wisdom is easy

[sterile ledge]

i think i need wisdom to hit the crackling precision node though

let me test

nope all good

[full bluff]

In omens I put down frost/fire wall in a section of the circle and let monsters come at me, keeps my ward maxed out and gives a nice stun barrier

then I move through the wall at end of duration for frenzy

[sterile ledge]

i got a lucky roll of 'you have frenzy' on my relic so been just yoloing that for a while

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9Jgr2dP

okay, so im guessing frost wall tree like that, free mana ward and its fire?

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (78) / Runemaster (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,160, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 1,148.41, Regen: 24.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 176%, Regen: 181/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 34 Dex / 82 Int / 26 Att / 47 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 84% / 101% / 140% / 79% / 95% / 146%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 432
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (204)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (2,016)
▸ Block Chance: 1%, Mitigation: 7% (42)

Used skills:

Fireball / Frost Wall / Meteor / Teleport / Flame Ward

[sterile ledge]

+make it free because goddamn the rest of my build needs as much mana as possible haha

oh could drop a point for shelter i guess

[full bluff]

You need shelter of the chef node for ward

200 ward per enemy is huge

[sterile ledge]

yeah just dropped a point from dark cold and put it in

yeah this feels pretty good tbf, just banged it on a mouse button so its not even about hand movement (i'm a full wasd only kinda player, q for teleport but that with ww is just basically nonsense)

[full bluff]

took me a couple of days to get used to playing with fire wall and putting it down at right time

[sterile ledge]

other than that, any other thoughts on build? (other than just get better LP+slams) ?

[full bluff]

You could look into the balance of having more meteors vs having more fire pen or more % dmg

I play with 4 meteors, not 6, as my optimal spot

[sterile ledge]

im just off another skill point, so in terms of nodes im only 1 damage node left after that that isnt taken.

(think im at like 224 total rn so thats easy enough to break over 240)

in terms of pen, im hoping to get a decent slam to buff that

(or could despec and respec more craterborn, but idk how much value that will add?)

[full bluff]

I would tried distant craters

[sterile ledge]

i did at the start but it made single targeting real rough i found?

[full bluff]

They don't overlap?

can be hard target yes

[sterile ledge]

ah, i just realised i have the max area, that might have been an issue then

[full bluff]

You have to test the variants, see what works best

[sterile ledge]

didnt have that before, so it felt super rng

[full bluff]

I use 2 variants, 1 for area clearing monos and one for hard bossing

[sterile ledge]

(which also, didnt feel good as yknow, meteors are big, just felt like a comet rain without going hard on area 😄 I'm all about the flavour)

thoughts on ferebor for int vs keplahan for %fire dmg?

[full bluff]

fire damage...

[sterile ledge]

might be a farming job for tomorrow then 😅

[full bluff]

but int might technically be better, since you have vilatria set bonus and int will boost the lightning damage too, not just fire

[sterile ledge]

no staff so its not converted? Does it still get lightning?

[full bluff]

the set bonus is still lightning

so you are mixed damage, fire and lightning

[sterile ledge]

yeah, but the meteor itself doesnt scale?

it doesnt have a lightning tag at all

[full bluff]

yeah, doesn't get a tag, but the added lightning damage scales as lightining

[sterile ledge]

oh i never realised that

[full bluff]

vilatria set bonus can make any skill "hidden" lightning

[sterile ledge]

ahhh

the int would give +2 spell lightning damage at t5, vs 42-50% fire damage for kep

+the normal bonus from 4 int for fere

[pale cedar]

Anyone know if the spark champion affix for lightning blast still chains 4 additional times without halving even if you have the convergence node (50% less chains but chains on same target)? I feel like guides dont seem to use that affix anymore and i was curious why

[unborn hamlet]

as per my buddy using it , yes

it chains 4 addition times

[pale cedar]

Thank you!

[unborn hamlet]

as per why they dont use it its cos Orian belt now exist

he has turbo cracked t7 champ and t7 max rolled light dmg and he just barely scrapes a little more dmg than me with my mediocre 2LP Orian belt

cos i have 19 more int over him

[pale cedar]

Ah okay, yeah that makes sense. Thanks!

[unborn hamlet]

im trying to drop one like him, but yeah. its a unicorn chase 😄

[drifting crest]

would we rather use this timeglass amulet with +1 all skills or the 270% shred armor affix on Flame Reave.

[kindred oxide]

270 shred

All Skills is cool and fun, but realistically, only the rank in flame reave matters.

and I think the shred does a LOT for this build.

So interesting thing. I unspecced Teleport and put the points into Fireball.

Then specced into autocast fireball on flame reave

using that as my source of fire resistance shred

[inner wagon]

Are you running the torch unique?

[kindred oxide]

nope, jasper staff

so here are the results on fire shred

i would maintain 8 stacks, and every 2 seconds it would drop to 6 then immediately back to 8.

so basically 7.5 stacks average.

when I use the fire shred blessing, i maintain 10 easily, obviously.

each stack is worth 2% pen (on bosses)

so i lose about 5% damage. but i can swap my blessing to 100% fire damage. more than makes that up.

also, you want these nodes. it adds an extra hit per 2sec on fireball. otherwise you only get to 6 instead of 8.

maxroll doesnt have these nodes. this will also give you an extra hit for shred.

tldr: for flame reave, fireball is worth it. but get flame burst nodes.
I like not putting points into a traversal but having it on my bar

[kindred oxide]

armor shred is ~20 stacks higher with fireball too

8 hits per 4 sec x 230% shred = 18.4 more shred stacks

[spring crag]

so for meteor

the best way is to use ladle right?

and added lightning dmg

I wonder how does flat lightning damage and flat adaptive (generic) spell damage works for it

if you have the amulet that gives 1 flat spell lightning dmg per int then that flat lightning damage is added to meteor right?

after that, how does the flat adaptive damage work for meteor?

does it add lightning or fire damage?

[weary hamlet]

adaptive depends on the skill;s base damage but the flat from vilatria set and other sources of typed flat is added as that type

[spring crag]

in other word, added generic spell damage to meteor is useless if we use lightning meteor without lightning conversion?

[nimble shoal]

Generic flat will just be added as fire then

[weary hamlet]

not useless as it's still damage that will be scaled by most of what you do, but it won't get benefit from stardust for example

[left hill]

wait what amulet is that?

[spring crag]

it's useful only if I play fire meteor right?

[weary hamlet]

it's always useful, your crit chance, crit multi, increased from int, increased elemental or spell damage etc will still apply to it

[proven haven]

I want this amulet too

[dawn widget]

gg

my luck is on point today, I broke 5 throne of ambition in a row

[left hill]

real hallelujah moment

[dawn widget]

preach brother

[left hill]

maybe the universe wants you to get a haircut 😂

[dawn widget]

im bald...

[left hill]

i'll inform the late Leonard Cohen to change his lyrics 😔

[proven haven]

It probably still wins yeah. Lightning works with stardust node in meteor but adaptive fire added doesn't. Ladle is also 1.48x multi and a bunch of good stats. You could go staff and convert fully to lightning plus the adaptive added also converted, and base. Then all of it works with stardust.

Ladle also kinda solves cast speed to dump meteors very quickly

With Legends ring you get a unique helm with staff, which could be boneclamor, seed, etc.

Or vilatria reforged helm and staff then not use legends at all

I just wish the vilatria set would give light convert too

[vague token]

Any flame reave players here? Im wondering how / if the maxroll flame reave build could be modified to make it a bit more tanky for hardcore without sacrificing too much damage?

[full bluff]

With high movement speed mana guide starts feeling good, as in not noticing that you are channeling it 🙂

[river kayak]

What is the tankiest mage build?

[tawdry halo]

i'm playing a version with teleport instead of surge & aurora timeglass and it feels pretty tanky

you have to press teleport every ~8sec to keep the buff up tho

[vague token]

Does it not cause issues with mana regen, as teleport does not count as an instant spell?

[tawdry halo]

Ha yeah you'll have to unspec that node

[vague token]

Does teleport actually help with survivability that much? looking at the nodes, it only seems to grant a bit armor / resists

[tawdry halo]

In my version, im not playing with fireball so i dont have the nodes for indirect cast speed

There's a ward retention node at the bottom and it create clone that taunt mobs

It helps in a lot of situation imo

[vague token]

What do you replace fireball with? I considered doing lightning blast for lightning aegis, but it seems to lower the damage of the build quite a bit, or require a weapon change

[tawdry halo]

but im no expert, i dont play hardcore and only recently got to 300 corruption, just wanted to share feedback on the build

i play with mana strike for mana recovery but i barely use it

[full bluff]

Against Omens, Frost Wall is great for ward sustain

[tawdry halo]

and i took the fire burst node in enchant weapon

[whole jackal]

so I played a bit around with the 3 invocations we have for strength stack brand of deception. Lightning web seems the most comfortable for boss fights and I found some good success with the 2x2 Idol for echos, going for unvars shatterbolt (gon, heo). realms of mayhem can be good too, since the first explosion, that is close to you, is lightning. Maybe with some aoe increases that one might be good for omens.

[sour ermine]

Any chance you have a build link?

[sour ermine]

Any chance you have a link too? Trying to look at variations

[tawdry halo]

I'm following this one https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6EmNMLo

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 3: Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (23) / Spellblade (62) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,471, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 338.51, Regen: 11.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 294%, Regen: 201/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 51 Dex / 106 Int / 13 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 130% / 70% / 104% / 52% / 90% / 122% / 72%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 568
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (241)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,156)
▸ Block Chance: 16%, Mitigation: 27% (550)

Used skills:

Flame Reave / Enchant Weapon / Mana Strike / Teleport / Flame Ward

[sour ermine]

Ty!

[tawdry halo]

just replace evolution's end with another amulet since they removed the + all skills affix in s4

[sour ermine]

I like this one more than the maxroll one. I prefer teleport and the flame burst look cool

[tawdry halo]

and there's less buttons to press too lol

enchant weapon & flame ward is automated so you only need to cast flame reave and teleport from time to time

[silk pewter]

Primalist, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

None

General:

▸ Health: 1,112, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 106.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 3 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 2% / 2%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 222

Used skills:

None

[kindred oxide]

I was able to get my uber kill under 2 mins with this setup

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QDxkjMvG

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (85) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,997, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 300.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 263%, Regen: 241/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 73 Dex / 117 Int / 24 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 128% / 75% / 86% / 82% / 109% / 124% / 83%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 629
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (557)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,151)
▸ Block Chance: 18%, Mitigation: 30% (700)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Flame Reave / Flame Ward / Enchant Weapon / Fireball

[kindred oxide]

Meant to reply to this.

[lunar elbow]

yay level 99

just one more level to go

:D

[tall canopy]

How does this work with generic Elemental Damage? Does each element gain the full benefit?

[cosmic dove]

just tried arcane ascendance on pulsar/meteor. wtaf.
who designed this spell? minor benefits and rooting = insta death

[left hill]

yeah, the rooting drawback is ridiculous

[weary hamlet]

yeah that's the purpose of elemental damage as a stat

[lunar elbow]

yay finally

[proven haven]

Probably any variant of strength stack mage (fire aura or brand of deception) using cleaver solution.

Mana tank can survive uber slam if minmaxed but its hard to make it also do damage.

[whole jackal]

btw lightning blast at 15 mana cost is great for echo clear with str brand of deception

and when you find a champion pop runic invocation and it basically dies 1 shot

feels very smooth for lvling in false temple

[proven haven]

Yea that does kinda work, there's a few solutions, it doesnt do a lot of damage though so once you get a bit of corruption you need to target basically every rare

At least flame rush is low CD though

Static also worked iirc

I think there was an issue with BoD overwriting though. IIRC the strong BODs still get overwritten by the weak ones

[whole jackal]

currently running this

using thise node only on frost wall

so if there is a big pack, I can zap them with the wall

and yeah for champions/elite you gotta stop channeling mana guide after using runic invocation

really hits like a truck though with 45 stacks and the +15% on selfcast

[proven haven]

Stacks?

Oh runic

[whole jackal]

runic energy stacks

basically always full when you use it

[proven haven]

You could alao go vaion boots with traversal runic

And direct cast for giga burst

It gives stupid burst if you charge it up, basically onesbot boss

[whole jackal]

good idea actually, will try that later

[robust junco]

Anyone know if this count indirect cast of LB ?

I think it does but not sure

[whole jackal]

wondered that also, but didn't test sadly

[robust junco]

I think I asked Mike but too lazy to check rn ^^

[proven haven]

I dont understand, this node should apply whether or not you direct cast

If you casted indirectly all the hits from that LB are indirect though

[robust junco]

Thats what I was asking

Didnt mention indirect hit

Just indirect casts

[proven haven]

There is no indirect hit really I was more just saying

[robust junco]

maybe should have said "count for indirect cast cast"

[proven haven]

It would say your next direct cast if it was direct only

[robust junco]

Thats the theory

^^

[proven haven]

If not id call it a bug

[rotund ocean]

Usually it specifies "direct cast" when it requires a direct cast vs any cast

[hollow bolt]

can lighting blast kill uber with only 1 lp everywhere?

[dreamy hollow]

Hello 🙂 searching for some mage expert, made a own build, wanted to get some improvements and extra ideas 🙂 I am from germany but talk quite good english 🙂 PM me. Build is an frostclaw ignite stacker

[whole jackal]

surely but you need a very good understanding of the fight and its mechanics, and even then it's still very tough. And to get a ladle at least with 2-3 LP is very easy.

[dreamy hollow]

i am currently lvl 94, https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdzJrJrO

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (23) / Spellblade (41) / Runemaster (23)

General:

▸ Health: 1,561, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 170.11, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 147%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 8 Dex / 33 Int / 8 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 178% / 18% / 42% / 0% / 0% / 15% / 15%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 312
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,292)

Used skills:

Static Orb / Flame Rush / Frost Claw / Enchant Weapon / Snap Freeze

[dreamy hollow]

That´s not completed, but mostly my current progress(gloves missing)

[hollow bolt]

I killed him with erasing strike. Surely ranged is 10x easier right?

[sterile ledge]

first nihilis drop, could be better could be worse

[tall canopy]

Do I gain extra mana if Runic Invocation's Refund is greater than 100%?

[median tapir]

Yes

Without any problems

Mine is pretty shit geared and i have no issues

[whole jackal]

For me erasing strike was easier

[median tapir]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Damalius/character/Damagelius

[urban nest]

Most likely not.
From the patch notes: mana refund is capped at 100%, the example in the patch note is Teleport's Mana Tunnel, Meteor's Aftermath and Sorceror's Archmage.
The Runic Invocation node "Author of Arcana" also mentions that refund is capped at 100%, so it'd be safe to assume that you won't be able to use Runic Invocation as a mana generator.

[tall canopy]

Ah got it, okay. Thanks!

[kindred oxide]

Congrats! You got it??

How was the kill on ES? Not too bad right?

It's still v hard but manageable.

[hollow bolt]

Yeah and my gear was decent immortal vise helped a lot basically got it to be tanky enough to survive most hits except the one shot obi

I had 4k health if I had like the correct health slams on ring it would be even more easier but not too bad. Most things in mg was super cheap

[kindred oxide]

Nice great job. Uber kills feel more deserved when you have to work for it, and not trivialize it with power.

Erasing Strike uber kill def feels earned

[unborn hamlet]

as per knowing someone minmaxxing erasing strike, once u get it up to speed its pretty fast and easy

pretty sure its 2 seasons of grind before he got where he is

[median tapir]

I had to learn him aswel

I killed him with 170k paper dmg

I prob died 100 Times until i learned all the patterns and phases

Never tried him before

And my goal was to kill him on my mage without any oneshot shit

[hollow bolt]

If you can get the new corrupted affix on world splitter it’s a lot more damage

[kindred oxide]

Yeah, first kill feels earned tho. Like right when you hit the cusp on being able to kill it, gear wise and skill wise.

[hollow bolt]

but building survivability was the shit part

[kindred oxide]

But same, once the gear scaled beyond that, clears were automatic and margins of error are bigger.

[kindred oxide]

Which one did you get?

There are some amazing weapon affixes, I haven't managed to get one yet. Might keep farming them til I land one.

[hollow bolt]

The extra flat damage per strength one. I got the armor shred one 230% chance to shred armor which helped too

[median tapir]

I got melee atk spd on my splitter

As a corruption

🫣

[kindred oxide]

Oh God. That sounds amazing

[unborn hamlet]

1LP splitter with the flat dmg corruption is better than a perfect triple T7 3LP splitter

my buddy was very mad about that fact

[kindred oxide]

Easily lol. The sheer flat damage on that is insane!

It's like slamming the best mod 3x.

[unborn hamlet]

yea but imagine

he got a miracle drop

[kindred oxide]

Having both?

[unborn hamlet]

perfect slam

[kindred oxide]

Hahahah

[unborn hamlet]

and u get outclassed by 1LP corrupt

[kindred oxide]

Just get an LP3 with that corrupted affix. It's no longer a world splitter. It's a galaxy splitter at that point.

[unborn hamlet]

universe ending threat of a weapon xD

[kindred oxide]

I don't even want the damage mod for my weapon.

I want the one that increases like 90% area of effect.

[hollow bolt]

I had t7 melee and the 235 shred. Made the fight way easier

[cosmic dove]

sadge 🙁

[full bluff]

The meteor in a line node would have had a use if it was a line from the target location...

[cosmic dove]

wait, it's random?

[dreamy hollow]

Still looking for some theory crafting player able to help me with mage, build planner is a bit up in this chat

[kind kernel]

😯

[dreamy hollow]

my build wanted to go full static, but switched, though can be used to cast full power static every 1-3 seconds without melee

[full bluff]

If you want to play mage DOT build, brand of deciption is the way to go, I think ... 🙂

[dreamy hollow]

to achieve this go firestarter(unique) with T7 roll on -5 Spell mana cost resulting in -9 mana spell for fire skills. Then bluefeather ring. this ring makes static cost much less from 200+ to 100. frostclaw converted to fire and costing 0 mana. statics 200+ mana cost. Offhand Enigma + spark charge (passive tree) +

[dreamy hollow]

i am building a DOT no Deception 🙂

Cause i dont want to abuse that sick 6% more per Shock.

[full bluff]

Every dot build I made got nerfed, so not looked into that type in a long time

[dreamy hollow]

Dont know what got nerved. But as far as i know no serious nerf

[full bluff]

Frostbite got nerfed 3-4 times

Maybe can do something with idols like this and ignite

[dreamy hollow]

I go ignite ATM. But I got penetration already. Like enough. At some point for example having 100% penetration means do double damage another 100%. so Going full penetration has drawbacks.

[full bluff]

I have tried finding an ignite build I like for year, no success yet 🙂

[proven haven]

LB can full charge static more than once per second, the problem with static is you kinda want crit to charge which doesnt really help with your Dots. Also even though the one big multi sounds appealing you arent applying many stacks and it is still less "total more" than skills with multiple but smaller multis

[harsh abyss]

Why does this make me think about using Static to permastun everything 👀👀

[proven haven]

I tested this

I permanent stun uber

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I remembered you mentioning it right before the start of the seaason

[proven haven]

Its awkward because you still do need to deal enough damage for the stun threshold

[harsh abyss]

yeah

[proven haven]

And by the time you do that much damage

You already kinda dumpster uber

Id need to math it though maybe you dont need that much idk

[harsh abyss]

🤷‍♀️

I'm too lazy to even farm up to 500 corruption to fight him, so I have no idea 😝

[weary hamlet]

damn man it's a shame that the endurance threshold per ignite on enemy is so bad in any actual build you'd want to run with health stacking

barely gives me 700 threshold in my glyph build

which I guess is better than zero but probably not better than just running low life ward

[neat crane]

hi is there a way to up the mana cost of black hole ?

[cosmic dove]

Pulsar/Meteor meme dreams are real, btw 😂

[nimble shoal]

Sure, there's that uhkeiros shield for 50% inc mana costs and also a new corruption on something or other that gives +cost for spells

[harsh abyss]

That or a Gate Staff

[cosmic dove]

there's this node in ice barrage too

[neat crane]

thx didn't even know it was for all skills

[cosmic dove]

btw @harsh abyss
I thought about not specing BH fire and using ice barrage for the 60% cold damage
but you lose 100% multi on binary system and I dont know what I would do with the points saved
can you think of any trick there or is it a non-starter?

[neat crane]

i can't rly get a shield but i'll look at that corrupt

[harsh abyss]

Potentially, it would take some of the pressure away from +levels for BH

[nimble shoal]

You can get it on wand, catalyst, and staff, so could get something like this

[harsh abyss]

@cosmic dove Does Collapse get converted to fire? If it doesn't, you're saving yourself like 6 points, which is pretty significant. You could replace Spine with something better.

[cosmic dove]

collapse gets converted to fire and then 50/50 damage with binary system
not sure about how the tags work

hmmm I do have two +2 spoons I could pair with meteor and cold BH

though I still dont understand how you spam meteor with spoon. I'd be out of mana in like 6 casts

[harsh abyss]

Normally, you build more mana and then you use Focus with Null Infusion to restore like half your mana instantly

So you take ~8 seconds to dump all your mana, then tap it to get half your mana back and then repeat

[weary hamlet]

normal classes: using skills to buff themselves
mages: using skills to debuff themselves

[cosmic dove]

<nods>

can you think of a better weapon for BH if I dont fire convert / spine?

[full bluff]

We need to play less sorcerer!

[harsh abyss]

I've converted my channeled LB to a sorcerer for now

[sterile ledge]

0.6% gang 🤝

[full bluff]

That 0.6% = 55 characters

[kindred oxide]

I feel like runemaster and sorcerer are too same and fulfill the same RPG fantasy niche.

Players who enjoy Mage power fantasy will just play what is perceived stronger of those two.

That's my theory anyway.

[left hill]

More or less, ya

[weary hamlet]

always had been

I remember how we were discussing this very thing back in 0.9 and nothing changed since then

[kindred oxide]

Mage shouldve gotten a minion spec. Every other class has one.

Conjuring elementals. I'd totally play that.

Familiars

[marsh furnace]

Can someone explain to me the calculation for flame reave crit chance? lets say character sheet says 36% crit chance (5 base, 4 from prodigy, approx 300% increased crit chance, so (5 + 4) * (1 + 3) = 36). I have 3 pts in precise destruction, 2 in chaos flare

is my crit chance (5 + 4 + 12) * (1 + 3) * 1.4 = 118% ?

[kindred oxide]

Calculate your starting crit first.

(5 Base, 4 Prodigy, 12 Precise Destruction) = 21% starting.

Now apply increased crit chance % to that.

Do you have Protector of Welryn? Or any other crit chance sources?

[kindred oxide]

21% x (1+296%) = 83.16%

x1.2 vs Ignited enemies = 99.79%

21% is from 5+4+12
296 is your increased crit strike chance added up

[marsh furnace]

right so its 83.16 * 1.4 then in my case

[kindred oxide]

Oh right.

[marsh furnace]

is there a crit chance breakpoint i should look at for truesight glasses? it says i have a 40% max chance of deadly striking, so is 140% crit chance what i should aim?

[kindred oxide]

Imo all 140 is nice. Cuz it adds 300 crit multi on the excess crit.

It depends how much crit multi you have, but I've never been at a point where it wasn't better for me to cap.

Or get closer to it.

[marsh furnace]

So above 140 is a waste is that right?

Getting to 140 is very easy tbh, I can easily add another 20+ dex which is 160% increased crit chance over 296%

that would be 5.56 * 21 * 1.4 = 163% or if i remove 1 point from chaos flare, 5.56 * 21 * 1.2 = 140%

[kindred oxide]

I don't think it's a waste, but like. Yeah increases to dex will scale your total crit much more aggressively than equal amounts of int.

As you surpass your 140 crit cap, you can peel back points in those nodes obviously, to be more efficient.

[lunar elbow]

lmao what the helly

here I am thinking "I wonder how I can acquire frenzy for this build"

and then I corrupt my relic and it just gets a corrupted affix that says "you have frenzy"

lmao ok

[celest lintel]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2744940809

7/7 3LP Fragment Slam + Corrupt

[karmic folio]

So as a Mage I can equip a Unique that has a Sentinel-Affix on it, but on Lastepochtools you cant make that, thats so weird, it basically hides so many build options

[kindred oxide]

gosh, sure wish i hit that LP2

[hollow bolt]

whats the twink mage leveling setup? fireball

[kindred oxide]

that corrupted affix is better than the one i DID hit

[hollow bolt]

?

[harsh abyss]

Firestarter and the low level fire helmet, then anything with a bit of ward/sec on it should take you through most of the campaign

[lunar elbow]

👀

[unborn hamlet]

decent

[fluid anchor]

Is frozensentinels 1shot uber bhole dead?

[half pollen]

Well bholes damage is still insane, but the clear sucks so hard that its no fun

[quartz storm]

If i fully convert fireball to lightning all the nodes in the tree which count against ignited enemies will work against shocked enemies instead?

[hushed field]

Guys, slam this right now or try to reroll for a higher armour shred?

[marsh barn]

Hello, any experienced Fire Aura players can answer some of my questions? Kinda new to the game, playing on Hc

[unborn hamlet]

per complete set

check if that staff is not a part of 3set

i dont remember from top of my head

[unborn hamlet]

depends on what build, 20 can be enough on LB for example

with buffs up i got 600%+ cast speed, so i apply max shred almost instantly even with 20%

[hushed field]

Ohh so 20 can be enough.. hmm.. can you share your planner please?

[unborn hamlet]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Uncomfy_Comfy/character/Comfy

i have shred on gloves but im using the gloves cos of the dmg over time mitigation

much rather would have phys res on em 😄

[summer sable]

man, flame reave is cracked this season. I just swapped from SS to FR and FR has slightly less (maybe the same) single target damage but WAY more screen clear/aoe.

[hushed field]

I just rerolled my 4LP and got 45 armour shred, now gonna slam it 😄 you think this wand is good enough?

[unborn hamlet]

personally, no, but also not that hard to get another 4LP laddle

i would aim for t7 cast and t7 crit multi

but at least t7 crit multi is the t7 u have so i guess its fine

light pen helps a lot

[hushed field]

is this good enough now?

hahaha

[unborn hamlet]

thats pretty big 😄

gratz

[hushed field]

ty bro! 😄 I was like, if it bricks it brick s 😄

[unborn hamlet]

i have that corruption on my gloves

helps a lot

[hushed field]

nicee

[summer sable]

that corruption looks insane for high cast speed LB

[hardy condor]

hi aabout the hydron buildd do the eempowering effect gaine through frost wall caaan be obtenained twic with th sam wall ?does going through again "refresh" the buff ddoes it keep the best ?

[noble reef]

which is some fun spellblade build this season?

[left hill]

Flame Reave is solid now, and Shatter Strike is good as always plus now has a lightning version that leans more into damage in exchange for giving up chance to freeze

[lunar elbow]

icry

my perfect t7 str ring

poof

[weary hamlet]

How good do you want your build to be?

Cause as always with le fun builds are not very good and good builds are not very fun

[proven haven]

Replaces*. Keeps the most recent.

[hardy condor]

ty so 2 "empowering" with sam wall possible ?

[proven haven]

No

[lunar elbow]

feels like most spellblade builds atm require super specific gearing to work at high corruption

[proven haven]

1 wall gives 1 buff. If you do another wall, you replace the buff.

[hardy condor]

ah so wll duration pointlss at least for thiss build

[proven haven]

No?

[lunar elbow]

look at this guy who is the only spellblade at 3000+ corruption atm: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/SueNoah/character/XiaoShuNing

that's some wacky super duper 0.0000001% RNG build

[hardy condor]

well to optimise dps caant wait the last frame to go through

cause flam iss lik 2.3 cd

rush

[proven haven]

You drop frost wall. Flame rush a few times

Then take wall buff

Flame rush

Cast new wall

Repeat

[hardy condor]

oh so its not bettr to use evry flame rush through a new wall

[proven haven]

I dont think so.

[hardy condor]

its also allow to rplac the brand on boss

and th shred

[proven haven]

You would need to recast wall before every flame rush

Not ideal

Yea brand on boss is useful but you dont need to dash through it

[hardy condor]

itss like this iam playing it right now waall 2sec channl flam rush repeat

[proven haven]

Yea thats fine

[lunar elbow]

I'm currently struggling hard with my spellblade builds at around 600-700 corruption, feels like this is where spellblade just tapers off unless you find something crazy

[proven haven]

You can do that

I dont really like it that way.

[hardy condor]

thought thiss was optimal

sinc its also mak m mor tanky

[proven haven]

You aren't tanky while casting frost wall*, thats when you are most vulnerable

[hardy condor]

most tim spendeed in flam rush keep the residdual buff ?

[proven haven]

Sorry I meant frost wall

[weary hamlet]

It just doesn't have free survivability and none of its builds offscreen clear

[lunar elbow]

yeah pretty much

[weary hamlet]

Like imagine you are a primalist, you have 45% more flat Dr than spell blade

And primalist is like the second worst class in the game

[lunar elbow]

some of the bosses at 600+ corruption start becoming super difficult where a single mistake will usually oneshot you

there needs to be a better ward generation unique for spellblades

like heart of ukheiros but for melee

[hardy condor]

ah yes but i thought i my b wrong but its more valuabl to keep the wall debuff on boss the most timee possiblee (shred plus brand)

[weary hamlet]

And for giga impenetrable asshole you can stack aspect of boar idols with all the new idol crap

[lunar elbow]

but tbh just farming at 500-600 corruption is super fun on spellblade

it deletes everything so quick

[proven haven]

The trade off is every runic having 1.6x damage or every 6th at 3.6x damage

[proven haven]

You can do both though

You place wall on boss then flame rush around it

[lunar elbow]

maybe soon I'll find the crazy rolls that let me build my spellblade over 1k+ corruption

[proven haven]

Then befire expire go though and flame rush

Then recast wall on boss repeat

But yeah if boss moves then its a problem

[hardy condor]

yeah womn harbringer doest sstay in place

[proven haven]

I more dont like casting frost wall after every runic

But also not sure the rounding on the damsge is actually giving you 1.6x damage, I think starts at 0seconds or something need to test

2.1s flame rush might be 1.3x

Maybe do dummy test

[hardy condor]

might try th 2 plystylee but for th new omen i think mine betteer for slow boss you might b right

if i do ur playstyl need to put baack the wall point for duration plus lenght

will go tst

[proven haven]

For Uber I like to pre-wall before fight and during invulnerable phase

Since you wait anyway its good to get full damage

You can even gear swap before fight, place wall, get massive first invocation damage

Like 6x or wharever

[lunar elbow]

I think I'm gonna farm 500k gold and just reroll to lightning runemaster

[hardy condor]

i am not at it right now

[lunar elbow]

I should have literally all the pieces needed for a strong 1k corruption build

[hardy condor]

more aiming to th new pinnacle boss for now

well dmg seems samish slightly in your favor but i hav no duration node ithink with it there aclear edge

[weary hamlet]

Nnnnooo don't let the meta builds lure you to the dark side

[hardy condor]

the pb is brand of trepass stay on 3sec without reaplying it your big cast is not guaranted to benficiate from it

[proven haven]

Yea but the initial burst you get for full duration

Is enough to oneshot most bosses

Especially if you do the snapshot gear swap

Its like dropping 6x runic all at once basically

[unborn hamlet]

ladies and gentlemen

RNG gods

have answered my calls

random corrupt set item delivered exactly what i needed

[lunar elbow]

that's pretty nice

[unborn hamlet]

with the best base to boot

[hardy condor]

ok noted ty for the tips

[proven haven]

Wtf

That was a set?

Jeez

[unborn hamlet]

yes

look at that

t6 vilatra

[proven haven]

Literally like 6 best affixes best base

[unborn hamlet]

and the best base helmet for the build

yep

my old hand crafted helmet to compare

[lunar elbow]

wait you just corruption slammed a set item?

for the t6 vilatra

[unborn hamlet]

no

i corrupt these

until i hit what i needed

[lunar elbow]

yeah that's what I meant

you just corrupted the normal set item 100x for the crazy rng roll? :D

that's kinda lucky

I guess makes sense since you got a T7+T6+T6 which is impossible to craft I think?

[proven haven]

Almost impossible

[hushed field]

Cant believe that you hit this, grats!

[unborn hamlet]

thanks, i cant believe it myself lmao

[proven haven]

You'd have to land with the int t4, with t6 on armor reduc, seal hit t4, craft set, then havoc shuffle, then not run out of FP, that shit never happens

[unborn hamlet]

yea, this would be a miracle to craft by hand

now i have to gamba my way into a good ring and im set 🙂

i acctually have a 28int ring already lmao, its just not better than the 120 spell dmg i have on mine dps wise

[proven haven]

Did you math it? Id imagine 28 int to win

Kinda surprising

Guess you have 600 cast speed already, and probably crit cap

[lunar elbow]

I'm about 36 stats away from having 480 total stats for the weaver ring

:E

that should be doable

[unborn hamlet]

I'm more than triple the crit cap lmao, and yes, under buffs I'm almost 600 cast speed

Sorry, 270% crit chance

[proven haven]

Jeez

[unborn hamlet]

Weaver amulet and stat stacking is too powerful

Also my DMG with this new helmet went up 800k

And I already had a good one

Couple days ago I also hit insane unstable core, like , I must have spent all my good karma on these

[full bluff]

So tempted to corrupt this one to match yours 🙂

[weary hamlet]

vaal or no balls

[kindred oxide]

this corrupted affix tho

[weary hamlet]

yea it's pretty good, except I usually get it on weapons for builds that don't need it

[unborn hamlet]

dont do it bro, i had a backup ready

[full bluff]

Working on the backup now, have 2xT7s ready for slam. Hope I get lucky, just need another lp2

[slender rampart]

Omen idols are so damn insane. No way to get anything valuable for the build. I've just run around 20 triple omens, then run 20new bosses and got literally 0 useful omen idols...

[harsh abyss]

Thats like when you spend 100k on idol prophecies and get jack. Very frustrating

[proven haven]

Was the class thing ever fixed for prophs?

I forget

[inner wagon]

ur elem dmg kind of low rolled, you can do nemesis upgrade and then corrupt them.. then reroll the stats before corrupting

[full bluff]

yeah I know, ran out of strife items, stacking them up again now. All failed stuff goes to that

Ran out 2xT7s too, failing slams. So guess time to work on something else 🙂

[edgy falcon]

so i know i get some nice stuff from the Ladle, but i also just found this...

adds 3k to my base lightning blast, but is it worth giving up the other stuff? xD

[atomic bough]

what I dont like about this game, is that some builds, even when logical on paper, will still suck in like 200+ corruption

like Iam trying to play ignite warlock and its just as bad as ignite sorc

why do they even put these primo uniques in game, when its just a bait

[pale cedar]

Has anyone tested the "Kindling" node in Flame Reave that gives +2 charges, 30% cdrs? Ive tried a bunch of things but the cooldown on the hotbar doesnt seem to drop if i go from 0 to 1 to 2 points

[median tapir]

corruption failed me

[lunar elbow]

pretty decent dps now :D

[left hill]

cooldown recovery changes how quickly the cooldown elapses but doesn't change the nominal cooldown length. so like, if you have a 5s cooldown on something and 100% increased CRS, it'll be a "5s" cooldown, but those "5s" will pass in 2.5s because each second counts at +100% value

[weary hamlet]

still no omen idol prophecies omegalul, I'm also sure omen idols are exempt from the idol drop chance rank bonus, and still no rune of havoc prophecies either

[lunar elbow]

oh wow a 155/160 roll I sure hope I can upgrade this to LP1

😭

I know it will give me like +40 mana or something

[lunar elbow]

no rune of havoc prophecy is kind of annoying tbh

but you can spend 100k favor to roll for the generic +runes

and hope you get lucky and find maybe 10 havoc runes among the one thousand that drop

:D

[inner wagon]

no, ladel is superior

[inner wagon]

base is still good though, drool

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I dont know how they've neglected this. Like MG gets full benefits but CoF just has to struggle

[median tapir]

yeee

[sour ermine]

Does twisted heart drop from the harbinger too or if I go for boss I can only kill dragon if I want it?

[weary hamlet]

it drops from the boss, they added it years before harbingers were a thing

but if you spawn the harb everything drops from it

[lunar elbow]

rip another victim

[unborn hamlet]

put that laddle into nemesis as soon sa u can :d , laddle is pretty much guaranteed 1LP or better, at least for me nemesis never bricked a single one with anything random, and from there u use Julra to put that nice fat lightning dmg on the wand to the laddle and gain much more that way

👍

[edgy falcon]

The problem is it's the only one I've ever found 😆

[lunar elbow]

you'll find plenty more dw

LP2 ladles aren't uncommon

[unborn hamlet]

and?

use the wand u have

till nemesis spits out the laddle back

1-2LP gained

then slam the wand into the laddle

[edgy falcon]

I've got 3 chars level 70+ and been fighting every prison and I've never seen another this season

[unborn hamlet]

and u get free dmg

[lunar elbow]

I think I have 3 ladles with 2LP at this point

[unborn hamlet]

laddle is not common, but im trying to gain u free stats here lmao

[edgy falcon]

I've got the normal alchemist ones, but not the good one

Yeah, and I appreciate it lol

[unborn hamlet]

u can survive using the wand for couple of monos until u get the laddle back from nemesis

or buy the nemesis tower echo and u get it done instantly

u said u play lightning blast so i pray you have enigma already 😂

[lunar elbow]

I hope so too, it's the far more important unique for that build

[unborn hamlet]

enigma is basically 90% of the builds dmg

[edgy falcon]

Yeah, found the enigma on my necro and took it as a sign lol

It's 2 lp

[lunar elbow]

nice

[edgy falcon]

This has been the char I've been having the most fun with this season

So I'm just trying to figure out the "whys" instead of just blindly following a guide

[unborn hamlet]

good, cos the maxroll guide is not the best u can do with it at all

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApbGYd6L

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (21) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (8) / Runemaster (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,568, Regen: 25.2/s
▸ Mana: 433.81, Regen: 10.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 488%, Regen: 61/s
▸ Attributes: 57 Str / 65 Dex / 250 Int / 57 Att / 65 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 100% / 150% / 63% / 92% / 123% / 158%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 314
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (260)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,844)

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Flame Rush / Frost Wall / Flame Ward / Runic Invocation

[unborn hamlet]

you can check my items and stats to roughly know what to look for

also use tweaked passive tree and different movement skill (reason is flame rush on low enough cooldown grants you permanent frenzy) as long as u use it ofc, while glacier movement does nothing for u

[edgy falcon]

Glacier has just been my panic button to get out of everything lol

[unborn hamlet]

yea but flame rush does the same, while also giving u big dmg reduction and dmg buffs

[edgy falcon]

The passive tree looks similar to mine, I think

[lunar elbow]

here's my current build, it's good for around 800ish corruption atm: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

or 500-600 if you wanna clear the big woven echos

without getting randomly oneshot by some random champion

XD

wait that link doesn't work

here

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEm8bN0

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,076, Regen: 107.46/s
▸ Mana: 317, Regen: 14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 386%, Regen: 136/s
▸ Attributes: 132 Str / 83 Dex / 132 Int / 53 Att / 58 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 97% / 77% / 83% / 79% / 109% / 231%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 1,069
▸ Dodge Chance: 27% (933)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,187)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 12%

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Flame Ward / Mana Strike / Enchant Weapon / Teleport

[edgy falcon]

I'm just super annoyed with the final Omen clearing in the echo chains. I die right as it's going vulnerable. Not used to THAT many champs at once

I've long since failed it, but at this point it's a matter of pride

[lunar elbow]

yeah that's the first difficult one

it's because that one has 2 omens at once

but wait until you find the one with 3 omens at once

and then the one with 2x3 omens at once

XD

altho the 2x3 one is kind of optional

you can clear them one by one

but they drop an extra woven echo if you clear all together

but tbh I can only clear them all together at like max 500 corruption

even tho I can easily clear anything else at 750+

[unborn hamlet]

When the slugs rain, the corruption or your game skill don't matter

[lunar elbow]

or the ultrawide curse when one of those jumping things jump on you from directly off-screen on top or bottom

[unborn hamlet]

They spit death itself

[lunar elbow]

if the game let me zoom out 1% more it would probably increase my survival rate by 50%

[unborn hamlet]

I cannot believe they didn't address the fact that some of the omen mobs do way more DMG than champions or bosses

[lunar elbow]

yeah especially when they get the beam :D

[unborn hamlet]

Sludge, skelly mage, divebomb osprix, whirlwind machine,

[lunar elbow]

imo they need to buff ward even more :D

or give mages some other extra defensiveness to survive at least one mistake

like

[unborn hamlet]

Imagine cap resistances, 66% DMG reduction from Armor, 40% hit reduction from flame ward that adds another 1000 Armor to you, and another 9% DMG reduction from shattered worlds

Slugs falls on top of my head

[lunar elbow]

I only ever die from an attack that dealt more than my max hp + max ward

[unborn hamlet]

And taps me for 20k

[lunar elbow]

mm

just give a mage relic that says you survive any oneshot attack with 1% hp

1sec cd

👌

[unborn hamlet]

Nah,

[lunar elbow]

heck 60s cd

works too

[unborn hamlet]

Then it's useless

[lunar elbow]

nah I'd still use it

[unborn hamlet]

You survived one slug for another 3 to give you the backshot

[lunar elbow]

xd

even if I survive just 1 out of 4 more runs it would be huge

I tried pushing to 1k corruption several times on spellblade and it's just a pure nightmare every time

[unborn hamlet]

Go less corruption!!! You're not meant to push anywhere past 300!!! Ubberoth is optional!!!! The game ends when you beat normal aberoth!!!!!!

Fun? Bad!

Playing one char to max potential? Bad!

Go play each character for 3 hours!

[lunar elbow]

meanwhile any minion based meta build playing walking simulator at 2k+

[unborn hamlet]

Meh

I quite don't care what others play, if they figured out how to do higher corruption good for them

Corruption is meaningless since it doesn't scale your drops

It's just a feel good thing

[lunar elbow]

:D

[unborn hamlet]

I'm just mad about where EHG is taking the game while they disregard any and all feedback they always ask for

[lunar elbow]

I enjoy the general direction of the game recently I just don't fully agree with the class imbalances atm

but I'm sure it will be different again in season 5

or it won't

we'll see

I only played like season 0, season 1 and season 4 XD

[unborn hamlet]

Yea, I'm sure they will manage to kill even more builds while making the already giga strong ones even more broken with new items

Surely it won't happen for 4th season in a row

[lunar elbow]

well

at least they did rebuff ballista falconer

I played that in season 0

and then in season 1 they nerfed it to the ground

but it seems like it's back into S-tier again

maybe spellblades will get the same one day too

[left hill]

instructions unclear, nerfing spellblades to the ground

[real rain]

I doubt it, this was supposed to be a big overhaul and all they did was make flame reave good

[umbral perch]

i thought fire aura was decent now? that was a lot of what was hyped as i recall

that and buffing various items that spellblades were expected to like, which, yeah, that doesn't seem to have panned out

[lunar elbow]

it's only decent to a certain point, it can't scale very good

[real rain]

best use of fire aura is solving mana tbh

[lunar elbow]

yep, sacrificing them for mana and using the mana for something that deals more damage is the way for spellblades

[umbral perch]

even if you're already heavily invested into ele damage over time?

[lunar elbow]

ahh no xd

but I mean

[umbral perch]

i've got a very jank spell trigger shatterstrike build, was about to try swapping in butcher's crown and seeing how that goes lol

[lunar elbow]

I'm sure fire aura scales to about the same level as shatterstrike

[real rain]

that was the first thing I tried when I saw the glacier node xd

[lunar elbow]

altho the problem with shatterstrike isn't the damage output

it's the fact that you're a literal glass cannon

[umbral perch]

(i'm using the glacier trigger node in shatterstrike, i know it's bad, the clear is kind of good for omens)

[real rain]

shame the spell trigger stuff just isn't good

[lunar elbow]

yeah I tried spell trigger stuff, it's fine but pure shatter strike dps is better

I think the lightning variant of shatter strike is better tho

[umbral perch]

the fact that i have to use Jasper's Searing Pride because it's the only dang weapon with untyped flat melee is very annoying

[real rain]

meanwhile bladedancer gets to be completely cracked with it's new stuff

smh

[lunar elbow]

the fact that my dps tooltip says 5 million dps doesn't help me at all when I get oneshot by random buffed up trash mobs for 10k damage

it's damage mitigation scaling/damage avoidance that will end your corruption push as a spellblade

[real rain]

I like how safe flame reave is for that reason, I built into aoe so I just oneshot the entire screen

pretty much only die to random off screen stuff

[umbral perch]

i usually run out of steam before abberoth so

[lunar elbow]

only works as long as you're actually oneshotting everything

once you meet an omen echo with mobs that require 2-shotting you're screwed

[umbral perch]

titan heart fixed most of the struggle i was having when i hit empowereds

[real rain]

well, you are fragile in between reave bursts xd

[lunar elbow]

tbh they should just give spellblades 10x better ward scaling and the class is fixed

[real rain]

I wish spellblade had stronger ward on hit support since that's supposed to be it's defensive identity...

[lunar elbow]

ye

but ward on hit/ward on freeze is just scaling so terribly bad

[umbral perch]

problem with that is when you have to get out of melee (never, ever picking large poison pools on rift beasts on that character ever again)

[lunar elbow]

it gives me 5-6k ward when what I need is about 30k ward

_>

or at least 15k

[umbral perch]

ward on freeze is just... not a mechanic that should be in the game after the big freeze nerf

i dunno, maybe i wildly underestimate how viable it is to freeze thigns

[lunar elbow]

just give me 0.1% of outgoing melee damage as ward

problem solved

[umbral perch]

ward that scales with your freeze rate multi, sure

[real rain]

I gave up on scaling ward with my spellbade build rly, I go for a hybrid and focus more on health and leech

[umbral perch]

oh i am wearing Bleeding Heart on mine

since the first one dropped during leveling

global leech too stronk

i assumed i would take it off eventually. hasnt' happened yet

[real rain]

its annoying needing siphon for leech tbh, I wish spellblade had it on the tree

[lunar elbow]

I lowkey wish there was any strength points whatsoever anywhere in the whole mage tree

[umbral perch]

yeah there's a fair amount of armor stuff late in the tree which makes strength kinda good

but they can't go too ahrd due to CLeaver SOlution, i guess?

[lunar elbow]

a node with like +5 or +10 str deep in the spellblade tree would be so huge

yeah Cleaver Solution

but it's hard to find decently high sources of Strength on mage gear

if you want it for example on your relic you need to use one of the poopy item bases instead of an actual mage item base

[umbral perch]

hrm, so if you use jasper's searing pride and flame reave, does it convert the massive amount of untyped melee damage into untyped spell damage, and then Arcane Severance turns the spell damage back into flat melee??

[lunar elbow]

no clue about the latter

does the first converted spell damage even show up on stats?

[umbral perch]

yep

[lunar elbow]

are you sure?

[umbral perch]

fairly? i've definitely seen it bounce up and down

[lunar elbow]

shouldn't it be much higher than 49% for me?

[umbral perch]

what's your weapon?

[lunar elbow]

cleaver solution

[real rain]

pretty sure it works that way, or it should at least

[umbral perch]

19 untyped melee damage? the 54 physical is bugged and doesn't covnert

[lunar elbow]

oh wait

[real rain]

I haven't done the math but if it doesn't work then it's probably a bug

[lunar elbow]

this one only looks at weapon affixes?

and nothing else?

[umbral perch]

it includs implicits or you wouldn't be getting any at all from your cleaver

[lunar elbow]

I thought it was all melee damage

but huh it's only from weapons

that's kinda... weak

:p

[umbral perch]

only from weapons and bugged to only untyped

[lunar elbow]

I'm sure glad I'm not trying to use that mechanic

[umbral perch]

that's whyspell trigger is bad. that's why i'm using jasper's searing pride

[real rain]

bug epoch baby

[umbral perch]

it's the only spellblade oriented weapon where all the melee is untyped

at least i can convert the ignites to frostbite with shatterstrike... doesn't seem to help my damage anywhere near as much as i expected, so very possibly the conversion doesn't benefit from your stats or something

[real rain]

untyped melee affix would be kinda dope

[umbral perch]

(i guess the technical term is 'adaptive')

[lunar elbow]

but wait, mine is 49% so it should be counting based on a number of 82%

but what about this

this thing has 180%

where did that go in the calculation

[umbral perch]

nowehere

40% of added melee damage on weapons

not increased

[lunar elbow]

ohhhhh

the +54 then?

wait

it's still not right

[umbral perch]

that turns into 21.6 added spell damage, yes

and should be on char sheet

[lunar elbow]

these are both my weapons and my str is 132

[umbral perch]

lemme check in game and make sure i'm not hallucinating

[lunar elbow]

oh wait

no nvm I keep confusing increased with added

[umbral perch]

yeah, you should have 43 adaptive spell damage from that setup

42.8

[lunar elbow]

ah and my sheet says 48

probably some random passive point with the rest

[real rain]

spellblade tree has a bit of flat spell damage so probably

[umbral perch]

yeah, if i equip just a Jormun's Feast, that gives me 67, ~40 (jormun's has 102) plus the 25 from passives

[lunar elbow]

it still feels kinda silly that you invest a lot into melee and you get a super weak spell buff as compensation

just give me more melee instead

it's a melee class no?

[real rain]

they didn't put much thought into the rework, it should've been obvious the spells wouldn't scale well into endgame

[lunar elbow]

looking at the top spellblades on the ladder as well it seems obvious none of them are caring whatsoever about the extra spell damage

they're all either flame reave builds, or some super specialized shatterstrike variants

[real rain]

I mean it's kinda relevant for flame reave but it's not worth going out of your way to build into it, you get enough from jaspers and then it's fully converted through the skill tree

[umbral perch]

yeah i wish they would hire someone with some better theorycrafting chops

to just.. math out what it would take

they seem to go on vibes way too much

[real rain]

they rarely listen to player feedback when it comes to this stuff too

[umbral perch]

dangit, it was maskk of indifference that dropped on this character, not the crown

[lunar elbow]

I mean just playtest different builds side by side and any Q&A moron should be able to see the class balance clear as day

[umbral perch]

i mean at this point, if i were in there shoes, i would do a community poll of "hey is it cool if we use claude code JUST for finding and fixing bugs? yeah? great thanks"

"how about setting up some automated balance tests? yeah? okay great"

[real rain]

anyone that saw how broken shadow rend and umbral blades recall were and let it pass through QA shouldn't be working on a game.

[left hill]

my goal to "solve" this is just "make it stupendously big so things die before they get to me" 😂

it's a work in progress, early stages still, I'm like 280% increased area away from my goal (which isn't close to max possible, but max possible would give up too much damage I think)

[lunar elbow]

:D

reminds me of some classic warframe builds

[umbral perch]

if Mythos can find 27 year old FreeBSD kernel exploits I bet Opus can, given decent scaffolding, autonomously find good builds for you

[lunar elbow]

where you just stand afk at spawn and kill the whole map with aoe

[real rain]

me with gara

my beloved

[umbral perch]

should i just filter out all altars with less than X affixes? i have no idea what i'm doing with them really other than CRAB for armor

[real rain]

I filter out every altar that doesn't have double increased effect of prefixes

[umbral perch]

and yeah how the heck does the COF benefit for boss drops not apply to omens???

[lunar elbow]

when do you think we'll get unique altars?

[real rain]

probably next season

[lunar elbow]

hopefully

[real rain]

well I actually like altars that have + x to mana for each corrupted idol since I like mana stackers xd

but everything else gets filtered out. so much trash.

[lunar elbow]

I found a pretty decent one yesterday

[real rain]

omens were kinda disappointing rly. I expected way better rewards.

[desert steppe]

if only their exalt drops weren't corrupted

[umbral perch]

i mean the reward is the corruptions

[desert steppe]

they seem to have really good rate of dropping multi-exalt (not counting the corrupted affix)

[real rain]

nah the reward is altars and runes of corruptions, the items are useless outside of campaign

[umbral perch]

oh yeah, the omen item drops are absolutely cracked, but the randomization means even if they have high tiers the combination and inability to craft makes tehm bad

[real rain]

once you have a good amount of runes and your altar it's whatever

[left hill]

we still haven't gotten Skill Sigils (s6, I know), so I'm gonna say S8

[carmine abyss]

welp I dont even have a douible t7 exault sadge

[umbral perch]

my pet theory is taht 90% of the reason omens drop so many corrupted items is so that you can get a sense of the corrupted affixes without having to corrupt all your gera or dig into the loot filter UI ro lastepochtools.com

[real rain]

good luck getting one this season xd

time to go farm nemesis ig

[carmine abyss]

been farming and no luck

[real rain]

dang ):

[umbral perch]

i am still so furious over the 1x2 and 2x1 weaver idol resist affixes being borked

every single characer i open from a previous season lost their capped resists fromt aht

[carmine abyss]

why is it so hard to get double t7 while every build planner even has triple t7

[real rain]

the imprint nerf is the worst thing they could've done to the game for CoF so I'm still very angry

[umbral perch]

i am sympathetic to the game design issues there which they wildly underestimated when they added it, but, yeah

[carmine abyss]

sorry 1st season for me, can you tell me how gud the imprints were before?

[umbral perch]

the problem is that as soon as they added it, everyone's stadnards for slams went from T7+T5 to T7+T7

or T7+T5+T5 to T7+T7+T6

because that was SANE now

[lunar elbow]

nah it's 50/50

[umbral perch]

you just didn't expect to see useful multi-exalts to slam before then

[lunar elbow]

50% chance it bricks or 50% chance it godrolls

nothing in between

[desert steppe]

tbh it's also what's sane based on gear progression

T7T5 is effortless

double exalt needs effort

[umbral perch]

it didn't used to be, when slams didn't ahve guaranteed affixes

[real rain]

the problem is gear progression feels so sad now, even though imprints were strong you still had to farm for those items and it increased the time you spent on your build

[umbral perch]

lucky to get the T7 in there at all

[carmine abyss]

is this imprint supposed to farm t7?

[lunar elbow]

tfw the only item I need to finish my build is a T7 str relic with shattered lance reforged trait

str relics can only be classless

[desert steppe]

sure for low LPL LP2 you can just slam whatever, but getting a rare LP2 it's normal to want to spend some effort on getting a better slam on it too

[real rain]

pretty much once you have t7 + t5 + corrupted affix you're done since you'll never really see an upgrade after that

[lunar elbow]

i.e. either I farm a low level base exalted with a T7 trait that will never drop in a hundred years, or I keep slamming all my runes of corruption on the set item :D

[desert steppe]

like if I get a 1:250 LP2 I'm not going to just feed it a T7 I just picked up from the ground

[lunar elbow]

probably higher chance with the runes

[real rain]

imagine getting a rare 3LP and feeding it 1 T7

actual stupidity

[lunar elbow]

imagine being new and having no idea

[carmine abyss]

thats what i almost wanted to do

because no freaking double t7

[real rain]

yeaaa the change is just bad all around

[carmine abyss]

was the affix imprint supposed to give us double t7 if there is no nerf?

[real rain]

you have better luck farming nemesis for 8 hours than you do imprinting

[carmine abyss]

because the description says only works for sealed affix?

[lunar elbow]

imagine finding LP2 red ring of atlaria on your first character and just slamming it with a t6/t5

[real rain]

yes, if you had a item from the nemesis with 2 T7 it will give you similar items which can drop 2 T7 affixes on items when it procced

[carmine abyss]

am sure thats me 1st day playing

[lunar elbow]

xd

[carmine abyss]

how about now? does it even give 1 t7? if i put 1 t7 affix?

[real rain]

you would still need the exalt to drop perfectly or battle with rng with runes

[carmine abyss]

because it says sealed affix and I am like wait a min

[real rain]

uh that's the wrong node

the champion node is trash

[carmine abyss]

oh

[real rain]

it's the other ones

[carmine abyss]

mind pointing it out for me?

I am just messing around with these

still feeling like a noob while I am still

[real rain]

the 2 on the right side, you're specced into em
commoner's riches and sealed riches

[carmine abyss]

tysm

[desert steppe]

lower left too

[real rain]

yeah that one too

[left hill]

occasionally some aren't. but ya, most are which makes them bricks past leveling

[carmine abyss]

so its better to put exaults with t7 affix on all of them?

[real rain]

you need to be giga lucky to get a double t7 item from them

probably as lucky as dropping a 2LP red ring lol

[carmine abyss]

welp i am struggling with a single t7 for belt and relic.. so

[desert steppe]

eh it's kinda a wash nowadays

[carmine abyss]

not gonna dream about double t7 already

[real rain]

I mostly just use imprints now to print high LP uniques and then cry when I realize I have no exalts to slam...

[desert steppe]

you're just gonna have to spam nemesis and dream

[carmine abyss]

thats what I feel like... i have 2lp items to slam but wait i have 0 exaults wtf

[real rain]

I have a couple good 3LPs but I'll be damned if I waste them on 1 T7 affix

[desert steppe]

if it's not a super rare 2LP just slam a t75 or t76 really

[carmine abyss]

plush.. the imprints dont work for boss drops or primordial...

i have nothing to put wtf

[desert steppe]

by the time you get a good 2T7 you'd probably get another Lp2 already

[real rain]

I def wish farming primordials was faster

[desert steppe]

just put your LP2 😄

unless it's a boss drop rip

[carmine abyss]

i got one single ring from ramapnt coast.. its been a week and need to farm mats over and over again to get 1lp to reroll

[real rain]

I just put whatever unique my build uses rly

[carmine abyss]

the problem is... most of my 2lp stuffs are boss drops and primordial so i am kinda fked?

[real rain]

like I'm building up my smite paladin atm so I've been feeding it devotion and titan heart to get 3+ LP

[lunar elbow]

do any of you know if you can slam non-mage relics into mage unique relics?

[carmine abyss]

i am playing mage only because one class is already too much for me

[left hill]

not even being able to imprint them to affect Rift Beast drops is... sad... and Rift Beasts counting as bosses for Prophecies but not COF bonus

[carmine abyss]

i am talking getting exaults is too much for me

[carmine abyss]

I dunno if its just me or these imprints are gimmics

[desert steppe]

not if they're other class relics

[real rain]

once you play this game enough it won't be too much and you'll realize your only goals are to push corruption and beat uber xd

[desert steppe]

but you should be able to slam generic relics

[lunar elbow]

but how about non-class specific relics with say +16str?

[carmine abyss]

like wait no boss drops no primordial... and no double t7 and .... i dunno what to put

[left hill]

they got destroyed this season

[real rain]

they're gimmicky now sadly, they used to be a key part of our progression

[left hill]

the echo rewards one is OK (for uniques). but the rest... blegh

[real rain]

but now it's whatever

[carmine abyss]

tell me how gud they were because except can put double t7

[lunar elbow]

oooh, you sure?

[desert steppe]

like, 99,99% sure

[lunar elbow]

nice nice

[left hill]

because except can put
wat

[carmine abyss]

sorry. I said except we could put double t7 exaults, whatelse could we put in the past before the nerf

[real rain]

I mean that's why we used them, you'd get a double t7 from the nemesis then throw it onto your imprints and farm those drops until you got a perfect exalt to slam on your rare 2+LP unique. rinse and repeat until you successfully hit both t7s. without that the imprints are trash.

[desert steppe]

redrings 😄

[carmine abyss]

thats sick.. i mean sound more fun?

[left hill]

you could imprint the same stuff. the nerf is how often they activate and how likely they are to roll high tiers when they activate for exalted imprints. both are much lower now

[real rain]

you can still print high LP uniques but without good exalts it's such a waste of time and effort

[carmine abyss]

the problems... we have turtle echo to reroll 2lps.. and I got my 1st 3lp from turtle as well

whats the point of imprints then

[left hill]

placebo

[real rain]

precisely why a lot of CoF gamers are angry, imprinting is trash now xd

[carmine abyss]

welp sadge

[carmine abyss]

this is my 1st season and I am having a lot of fun except getting exaults to slam

[real rain]

you're better off farming the nemesis woven echo for hours on end than relying on imprint procs

[desert steppe]

like damn man omens keep dropping multi exalts like this

but what use does it even have lol