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weary hamlet
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I wasnt following the judgment saga closely but I think I heard people mention that with the new power creep the one punch man is back on the menu

proven haven
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I did some math and it looks like it can be pretty good yea

weary hamlet
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from what I see currently the meta is judgment aura with spirit xylem

proven haven
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Even Xylem can do like 5s dummy kill with aura

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While being stupid tanky

weary hamlet
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not that ditching the shield is making a dent in your survivability either way cause lol you are a sentinel

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just press vengeance or something

proven haven
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Only giga tank option for mage is mana tank really

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And it kinda sucks for scaling damage, go figure

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Especially now that affixes are even more limited

weary hamlet
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for example transient rest is pretty good at high mana necro which actually stays at 100% mana at all times

proven haven
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You can't really do much with high mana because you arent able to build offense and defense at the same time like other classes

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Eg. Attuned stack

weary hamlet
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also your asshole is extra impenetrable with white ox + passives giving you a 35% DR which is not even an option on mage

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like imagine having permanent flame ward

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for free

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that's just playing sentinel lol

proven haven
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You mean old Frostguard

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Rip

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And then there's madness which in theory works well with mana stack, since mana tank no ward

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But int and mana stack at same time is hard

weary hamlet
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see transient rest being abused on necro

proven haven
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Seed is good yea

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Always has been

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But it's a high opportunity cost

weary hamlet
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and if 28% to mana is not enough you can prop that up by a few long idols with what 8% per?

proven haven
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With 2t7s you could do these hybrid builds fairly well

weary hamlet
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now with the new altars you can have what, 4 of those?

proven haven
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Maybe new stuff is better idk

weary hamlet
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I mean good f ucking luck rolling the weaver blessings

proven haven
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Eg mana on belt

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Good luck getting weird idols / altars

weary hamlet
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wait right you can theoretically roll the altar with 50% increased weaver blessing effect

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so that would put those idols to 12% damage to mana

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no damn the bastards thought of that, there is no altar that would allow 4 long idols with good access to refracted slots

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best you can do is 3 refracted on a pyramid altar

rotund ocean
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pyramid only allows 2 weaver idols

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You can do spire

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unless weaver enchant doesn't count as "weaver"

errant dragon
weary hamlet
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weaver are the 1x1 and 2x1/1x2 small idols

rotund ocean
weary hamlet
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also wait there is a normal AND corrupted affixes for damage dealt to mana on helmet, with the two on a high roll and the seed you can hit 100% damage done to mana

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or more

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lol

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I wonder how that's gonna work, wanna bet EHG never tested that?

rotund ocean
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I mean why would it not work?

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You play mana flay lich, you stack 4k mana, you get hit once by uber, there goes all your mana

weary hamlet
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no I mean if you go over 100% damage dealt to mana before health, you'd just get drained for more mana than damage lul

errant dragon
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in general things are limited to 100% and overcapping does nothing

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unlike poe 😄

weary hamlet
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also between the natural conversion and endurance affecting damage to mana with the seed it shouldn't be so bad

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
errant dragon
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true also, just from my experience theres been quite few instances of going over 100% doing anything

sharp mantle
weary hamlet
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it should just generally be tied to your max mana, like baseline you regen let's say 5% of max mana per second

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then stacking a bunch of mana regen at least makes it move the needle

rotund ocean
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Or at least give us flat mana regen on an affix or a tree or something

hazy quest
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anyone able to confirm the new spellblade updates wording for added melee to spell damage. ie if i have a weapon with 100 melee damage on it, does it then also have 40 spell damage? or is it more the percentage side ie. 400%increased lightning melee damage also adds 180% lightning spell damage

proven haven
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Even without full 100% damage to mana and a bit of leech its pretty strong defense

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Of course full mana tank eats so many affixes its hard to do damage

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Could maybe do fractured crown but the seed endurance is huge DR plus keep ward buffer

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But then you need endurance, and a lot of damage to mana affixes

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Could probably do a hybrid of some sort that does a bit of damage but remains almost immortal.

weary hamlet
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but maybe ehg will oblige and delay it for another 8 months

proven haven
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Idk thats such a heavy price to pay

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Primal relic just to boost mana stats that dont do much else

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Plus all the other affixes

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Maybe Xylem or something for hybrid stack

naive pollen
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hi guys can anyone recomend me leveling guide for mage ? i would like to do later runemaster so idealy the one with this spec

full bluff
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Try farm and craft Unstable Core with T7 Meteor and T7 int?

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or T6 int

tardy aurora
kindred lintel
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is this good for single target or it only affect the nearby enemies so for clear etc ?

nimble shoal
kindred lintel
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ahh okay

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just gonna take that point out and put it on spark nova to make 100%

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thanks father

rotund ocean
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Will the real Toast please stand up

tight swift
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Anyone playing lightning blast, solve mana issues later? When you have to keep moving to survive? Pressing pots all day is getting tiresome.

delicate cape
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yeah. that makes a lot of sense cuz i felt like that should be 1-shotting me. so just stand in it for now... lol?

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Ohhhhhhhhh. that's waht Im missing then. that +1 spell dmg per 2 Int? thx.

vivid wedge
umbral perch
sly vortex
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has someone see this ?ingame i not see anyone sell Cast Speed ?like in pic

weary hamlet
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uh trading exists? it still has active people at this point?

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maybe the filters are bugged or something

tight swift
sterile ledge
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will anything ever be funnier to me than blasting a bunch of prophecies, seeing 0 drops after a boss and then pressing disable filter

half pollen
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Man I wish someone finally revolutionizes the arpg genre to get rid of those stupid filter stuff

proven haven
# kindred lintel just gonna take that point out and put it on spark nova to make 100%

Never take point out of spark nova. 4/4 is basically 2x damage. Final Spark is great for burst or clear, as you detonate packs or rares quicker. Also giving them less time to hit you

For something like Uber its better to put extra point in spark charge damage. For everything else, imo take point out of spark charge damage and put in final spark.

left hill
sterile ledge
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why would they, arpg players just want a billion useless items to shit out of a boss really....

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🙃

quiet folio
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Did anyone try some kind of orbitting Volcanic Orb build via the new rings and skill changes?

weary hamlet
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at least non orbiting VO is localized in one place

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and this crap shits out particles all over your screen

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can't even see the mobs

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but it's real funny if you stack up on increased orb speed

quiet folio
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does it speed up rotation then?

weary hamlet
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of course

half pollen
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Does the orb hit multiple times when you speed up rotation? Or still only once per enemy?

cosmic dove
harsh abyss
cosmic dove
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it's definitely a build that is there
stacking BH multis and crit works, it just lacks the "infinite" scaling of ignite/fire resist so in the end Frozen (shockingly) was correct with his approach I'm guessing

harsh abyss
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Yeah, that sounds about right. 10:1 ignite scaling is tough to beat

cosmic dove
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oh that reminds me though, I did have a question for you

full bluff
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has a certain playstyle

cosmic dove
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this says "more" but doesnt have the "multiplicative with other modifiers" text
would this multi get transfered to Pulsar's Collapses?

harsh abyss
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It SHOULD, but only if the enemies are close to the center of the origin point. But also I've never tried it, so 🤷‍♀️

brave burrow
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anyone having a flame reave filter? wanna switch from lightning blast

cosmic dove
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you can get it to 90% which means you could have three 100% multi, one 90%, and scattered double cast

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which is kinda crazy

lunar elbow
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help, my shatter spellblade build is too squishy at 300+ corruption, any tips?

harsh abyss
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If you unspecc completely and only put points into that and pulsar, you should be able to test it pretty easily by casting a black hole on top of the dummy and another one nearby

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The one nearby would do 90% less damage, which would be noticeable

cosmic dove
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true. I'll test it if I get motivated

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it is kinda a dumb point anyway
you already have 2 points in it for singularity

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so it would just be that last point

harsh abyss
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I've been struggling this season for some reason. Haven't found a build I really like and nothing feels right

full bluff
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What playstyle are you looking for?

cosmic dove
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I actually like the playstyle of it but I know I could be playing 6 other builds and doing things much faster

lunar elbow
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same, also struggling

harsh abyss
# full bluff What playstyle are you looking for?

I'm not sure. So far I've tried out: Gordian Prism Nova, Mana Stack Static Orb, LB Runemaster, Spell Trigger Spellblade, Fire Aura Spellblade, Cascade Blademaster, Bladestorm Blademaster, Tornado Shaman, Attribute Stack Bear

lunar elbow
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I'm currently on shatter spellblade and I have no idea how to continue scaling it, sort of fallen into a plateau around 300 corruption where I get oneshot from time to time

cosmic dove
lunar elbow
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is there any mage build that can actually tank and survive my mistakes when I get hit by an attack for 7k damage?

harsh abyss
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I still think it can be good if you max it out, I just haven't had the gumption to try to get there.

lunar elbow
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what's the tankiest mage build atm?

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LB runemaster?

harsh abyss
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Probably Strength Stack Brand of Deceoption

lunar elbow
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never even heard of that :D

harsh abyss
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You can look up planners for it. Basically you use Mana Guide to channel Focus, and then the LBs it casts trigger Brand of Deception, which does insane damage when you're stacking intelligence (for shock chance with Vilatria helmet), but you actually stack strength and use Cleaver Solution to make your Int equal to Strength, which means you're getting a crapton of armor from the strength as well as all the int bonuses.

lunar elbow
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ahh

harsh abyss
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And since you don't care about the damage that Focus does, you can take all the defensive stuff in that tree to be giga tanky on top of the armor

lunar elbow
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is it even any good though?

weary hamlet
full bluff
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I am really enjoying meteor now, actually farming with it, never happened before

versed hare
harsh abyss
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Yeah, and also the "all resists while channeling" node makes it hella easy to cap resists

versed hare
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yes

cosmic dove
full bluff
harsh abyss
versed hare
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i wish they would let disintegrate use mana guides movement

half pollen
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They could just add a cooldown to disintegrate and give it a 90% damage reduction for 4 seconds or something. So you could actually survive while not moving

harsh abyss
versed hare
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yeah

harsh abyss
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Maybe since I can't figure out what to play, I'll revisit the old classic. @weary hamlet It's Channeled LB time.

versed hare
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I'm kinda thinking if I can do something with vaions chariot boots and Wrongwarp and movespeed stacking, that would synergize so well

weary hamlet
harsh abyss
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Oh? Why cold?

weary hamlet
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why lightning?

harsh abyss
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Because I don't think Spark Nova gets converted

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And lightning is way cooler

weary hamlet
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it does, I tested it back in 1.2

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with focal blast omegalul

harsh abyss
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oh, hmm

kindred oxide
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As flame reave, would you trade 10% of your damage output for about 40% bigger area of effect? 😂

weary hamlet
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it wasn't so terrible I played it at like 400 corr with crap gear just fine

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and that was back in 1.2 mind you

weary hamlet
harsh abyss
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I haven't played channeled LB since 1.2, and Halo Effect was still broken then

weary hamlet
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nah that was the patch when they fixed it

harsh abyss
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was it? hmm

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Well, it was like 5 year ago anyway 🤷‍♀️

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Also I think they may have broken the 0-mana version of it, since teleport Mana Tuneel + other refunds can't stack any more

nimble shoal
harsh abyss
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And LB is still one of the only channeled spells that stops mana regen (Unless they just have never bothered to fix the tooltip)

weary hamlet
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speaking about focal blast I had a good ole big think about it and it might be much improved by the last two patches

half pollen
weary hamlet
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cause its bottleneck had always been points in LB tree it nees like 34

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and now you can hit that many

harsh abyss
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Yeah, that makes sense

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Channeled LB is probably much better now too, since primordials exist

weary hamlet
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stat stack outta the ass + weaver neck + legends entwined + amulet corruption + chest corruption

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can now use ladle or something cause with vilatrias you got your flat covered, supplement by idols if necessary

weary hamlet
harsh abyss
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Yeah, that's probably good for Focal, not great for channel

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Since channel doesn't care about cast speed

harsh abyss
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however I've been considering Vilatria reforged staff instead of helm.

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Hyper stack vilatria is +100 flat damage. A good staff is also ~100 flat damage, which is effectively 100% more damage (probably more like 75% given flat you can get elsewhere, but still)

weary hamlet
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the question is, can you cap crit with a staff?

harsh abyss
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Weaver amulet makes crit cap trivial

weary hamlet
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although wait right the weaver amulet

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keep forgetting about it

harsh abyss
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Also, since I can't benefit from cast speed, Ladle basically doesn't matter

brave burrow
cosmic dove
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@harsh abyss game is monitoring discord to troll, confirmed. 😉

harsh abyss
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lol

weary hamlet
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rngesus blesses

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fireball build inches ever closer

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got nothing to slam this lol

harsh abyss
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Just confirmed that channeled LB does indeed stop mana regen from working, so I'll need to rework my RM build.

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Garbage

weary hamlet
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lol didnt they allow mana regen during all channeling a while ago?

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they probably forgot that channeled lb exists

harsh abyss
weary hamlet
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forgot to flip a flag

umbral perch
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I really don't want to know how spaghetti their code base is that they can't audit things like that

weary hamlet
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a black box and a bunch of xmls

harsh abyss
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As someone with a long career in games QA, I'd love to get my grubby hands on their backend and make some changes, lol

delicate cape
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Will the COF "if 1 set item drops, the whole set drops" work with setitems that drop from Soulfire Bastion boss?

harsh abyss
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But, with the -20 mana cost for channeling, it's only like 16 mana per second with a decent staff/wand, so it's not the end of the world to build around. Being able to channel for 20 seconds or so straight is easy enough to deal with.

kindred oxide
brave burrow
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ah you are trade mb. I saw your video and wanted to switch from LB but i am CoF

kindred oxide
lunar elbow
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halp how do I fix this in my build

proven haven
lunar elbow
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my dps is never any issue but the moment I stop paying attention for even half a second I get oneshot by a random champion XD

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is that just how it is to play mage?

proven haven
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Usually yea more or less

lunar elbow
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oof

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I'm gonna start levelling up a void knight

proven haven
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The tanky mage builds lack the damage of the tanky sentinel builds

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And also do less damage

harsh abyss
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lol

proven haven
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And have less tanky

wanton harness
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is Armor Shred the only that is important on a Mad Alch Ladle?

proven haven
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Depends on build. 99% of the time yes

wanton harness
proven haven
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Yep I am familiar with the build

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Same story

wanton harness
proven haven
wanton harness
proven haven
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It hits iirc around 20 times per cast, with cast speed up around 80 times per second

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Factoring nova, self chain, spark charge, etc.

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Yep. Slam + corruption, ezpz

wanton harness
proven haven
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Depends how good your idols are most likely, its a major source of cast speed but getting good ones is a grind.

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You could math it, technically depending on how much you already have of each the other could be better

wanton harness
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thanks for your valuable input kind stranger

proven haven
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Its not like getting 1LP ladies or T7 is hard

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Just do one of each

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Imprint rune prison echo when you get it

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If your crit chance is low definitely cast speed though

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Early priority on that

left hill
granite condor
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Is Spellblade Bad besides shattered strike? My build is not working and I stacked spell damage

left hill
proven haven
proven haven
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To what, uber?

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100 corruption?

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Campaign?

granite condor
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100 c

proven haven
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Yea no thats just a build issue

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Spellblade can easily do 500c plus with a handful of builds

granite condor
silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (11) / Spellblade (60) / Runemaster (7)

General:

▸ Health: 1,284, Regen: 22.9/s
▸ Mana: 306.21, Regen: 10.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 190%, Regen: 160/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 42 Dex / 95 Int / 0 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 58% / 107% / 23% / 139% / 91% / 42%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 257
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (391)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (860)

granite condor
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I stacked a lot spell damage but it doesn’t work

weary hamlet
granite condor
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I love rogue

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My most played class

weary hamlet
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cause if our benchmark is rogue builds then the best SB build is straight up uninstall tier

proven haven
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Eg. LB fork is dogshit for single target

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And the cold LB nodes kinda suck

proven haven
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LB without spark charge generally just sucks

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I think you also lack shred

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And attack speed

delicate cape
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I cant find this affix (ring), but it's crazy. what is it / from

proven haven
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Also the LB T8 affix is probably a bad use of Primordial for indirect LB

granite condor
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Thanks for your advice

proven haven
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Its fairly weak, especially since the nerf

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You'd probably kill low hp trash really well, id guess. Good AoE

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But no single target

weary hamlet
kindred oxide
proven haven
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I didnt actually check but the damage is still there so probably

weary hamlet
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then that must be half of the reason why even the current lb build is reasonably good

proven haven
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Well spark nova is about half the total damage

weary hamlet
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cause I fail to see a world where that interaction is intended

proven haven
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So if you take that away you lose about 80% of that half

weary hamlet
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but then again I have a much better opinion of the dev team than warranted by the game

granite condor
proven haven
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And its kinda barely there, with how insane some other stuff is

kindred oxide
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Ahh just figured tiers were kinda arbitrary. So all builds are "bad" cept LB haha

proven haven
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Just know that spark charges is usually the play

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I dont think Static Orb is going to do much more than utility

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So use that for lightning aegis and shock ground

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Then go into spark charges

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Enigma and so on.

proven haven
weary hamlet
harsh abyss
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Static Orb is probably good for clear

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And +2 LB chains

weary hamlet
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clearing trash since 2017

proven haven
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LB kinda checks the boxes. Its ranged, good AoE, fairly quick clear, can do high corruption well, decent tanky, can do Uber with 1t7 gear, etc.

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100M+ dps minmaxed

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SO is probably at least A tier

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SS same

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Its not so much that the tiers actually matter, its just so you can do a relative comparison

left hill
harsh abyss
proven haven
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Like Xylem or whatever

harsh abyss
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Yeah, Xylem is the only way to get that high, 10 mana per attunement is insane

proven haven
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Hm yeah

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Would it even do damage though?

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Not much room for flat, crit, etc.

harsh abyss
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Well, Xylem still has 80 flat, which is decent

proven haven
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Yea but ladle vilatria is like 120 ish * 1.48

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Plus all the idol flat you can get

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And tree flat also multied

harsh abyss
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yeah

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But 2200% more damage from mana is probably pretty good for static orb 😝

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I mostly did it for fun. There's no way you're getting 4x omen idols with +mana/+%mana%armor

proven haven
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At that point you need to go frac crown or something lmao

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Or lost knowkedge

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Mana to ward

harsh abyss
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Yeah, I used frac crown

proven haven
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Mana to ward kinda cracked

tight swift
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My LB build is good in damage but super glass cannon. Im in corr 1580 and i gotta now have "meaningful combat" with the mobs and bosses.

harsh abyss
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lol if you're at 1580 corruption, you've beat the game

tight swift
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I wanna resolve mana issue and foot of the mountain is really just useless as i cant stand still lol

tight swift
proven haven
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With att stack you lack int usually

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Means hard time on crit and etc

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Lack cast speed lack other stuff

weary hamlet
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lol did Aaron personally put the loot into my mobs?

tight swift
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Is the only way to sustain mana is to drink pots? Or mana regen affixes?

cosmic dove
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so I have this (running meme Pulsar BH)

harsh abyss
cosmic dove
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should I slam the CHC or the crit multi (havoc it over and pray)?

kindred oxide
# granite condor Is Spellblade Bad besides shattered strike? My build is not working and I stacke...

My opinion on spellblade, the whole do melee attacks to proc spells hasn't been the greatest.

That play style leads you to build towards that but that kinda makes you divest between your melee damage and spell damage.

The stronger spellblade builds are more focused in how they deal damage and just build layers of damage multipliers on the melee attack.

Unless someone finds a really strong proc build or Fire Aura build.

harsh abyss
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Apparently there's an issue where typed damage is also not being converted via the spellblade passive. So if you have +100 flat lightning damage, it doesn't give you +40 spell lightning damage

kindred oxide
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Like flame reave just takes your spell damage and converts it to melee damage. The damage comes from the melee attack. Not so much the spell procs

harsh abyss
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That REALLY hinders the viability of spell trigger builds

kindred oxide
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But I've just been better off going all melee damage. And converting my spell into Melee.

proven haven
cosmic dove
weary hamlet
cosmic dove
full bluff
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3 meteors is nice too 🙂

cosmic dove
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woah reroll worked 😮

tight swift
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perma stun lock the boss - but of course, run out of mana because i'm not wearing foot of the mountain, would be easier with foot of the mountain. lol

quiet folio
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can you still permafreeze bosses? like Julra T4 etc?

full bluff
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You can perma stun

tight swift
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pretty op. i cancel uber aberroth's mechs too but the HP is too big to stun that often, but still do-able

kindred oxide
tight swift
full bluff
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In echos everything is stunned if I can just hit it once, pretty useful when you are squishy

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Are these used for any build?

lunar elbow
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yeah for fire aura spellblade

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it runs cold conversion and stacks 100+ fire auras

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not sure if it's actually a BIS idol even for that build tho

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I think they rather run omen idol with +40% cold damage (2x if 300+ mana)

gusty girder
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is the teleport refund node roken or did they change how it works

left hill
lunar elbow
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how do you even farm for a mad alchemists ladle

grim storm
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do the shrapnel node sin metero affect the damage from sharapnel in Volcanic orb?

gusty girder
quartz carbon
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Any flame Reave build guys?

vivid wedge
umbral perch
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I've been main handing Frozen Ire which has a flat cold implicit

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That's 23 flat damage I haven't been getting

cosmic dove
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@harsh abyss I found this. the 1LP version took me ages to find a suitable slam
any tricks on getting a worthy 2LP slam or is it 99% likely to be wasted?

harsh abyss
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Well, its 66% chance to be wasted at most 😝

cosmic dove
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yeah I havent seen a 2-hander with 2 affixes I would want

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I think the only choices are crit multi, all attributes, and mana (?)

harsh abyss
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%Cold damage is probably also good, or %increased crit if you arent capped

elfin rapids
umbral perch
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is frost claw ALSO only converting generic flat melee damage? or is it just the passive that's bugged?

elfin rapids
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A maximum rolled Jasper's staff has 273 flat damage (94 melee implicit + 104 spell implicit + 75 melee unique mod) for both the Flame Reave and Frost Claw at the same time. I'm not even counting the 40% from Spellblade Mastery (whether it is working or not) nor the stacks of Searing Blade that give +2 flat melee each.

kindred oxide
elfin rapids
kindred oxide
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frostclaw off of flame reave via macuahuitl?

elfin rapids
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To me it seems Frost Claw procs would just be free damage on top of Flame Reave, but i haven't really tested it so i don't know, just theorycrafting.

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It's not like you have to go out of your way to build damage for it.

kindred oxide
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prob would need mana strike for mana. similar to what flame reave is already doing. that would prob do a lot of damage.

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okay hold on let me try this. im going to take my points out of teleport, put them into frost claw. keep teleport on my bar.

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and put points into the passive.

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i dont even need diff gear. but i might want a front facing flame reave

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lmao i dont even know how to build frost claw. this is my first time playing mage. im figuring this out

elfin rapids
kindred oxide
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i know i want macuahuitl, the fire node, and conversion. thats obvs. gonna farm the points

elfin rapids
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That just the 20 point, if you have more can put into the two more damage nodes.

kindred oxide
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this is hilarious

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i have an aoe flame reave, and a directional frost claw

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and in aoe situations it just goes where it wants

elfin rapids
kindred oxide
# elfin rapids

does Gift of Winter still work when indirectly cast? the tooltip says otherwise

sterile ledge
#

Finally gave in and rolled my way into a starting LE build, everything has spiked (except survivability which i need a couple changes to fix armour and health). But got a question as I haven't really looked into the pool much, but is there a halfway decent fire wand/staff yet? Or is my best bet for weapon gonna be wrongwarp as usual, or maybe aergons for a potential bit of defense?

kindred oxide
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and afaik this was a fixed bug

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i dont expect maxroll to update their stuff

elfin rapids
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Pretty sure -6 mana cost works, but the generate mana doesn't.

kindred oxide
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lmao

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oh okay

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i trust

nimble shoal
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Yeah, poorly worded tooltip

kindred oxide
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Okay, so I took two points out of it to put into damage

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if i have mana probs ill peel back

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I'm using Oceareon and Red Ring. No Sunwreath.

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i'll see how the mana goes

lunar elbow
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god damn, the double omen echo at 300 corruption is hella rough

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I don't have any issues with anything else at this corruption level, but that one is insane

elfin rapids
kindred oxide
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nope still 11.4

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okay this is annoying

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corruption max rolled my Oceareon

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4% less damage from chilled enemies

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became 2% less damage from chilled enemies

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that was the most important stat on this ring

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instead of taking the better number, it takes the higher integer 😂

elfin rapids
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LMAO

uncut lintel
kindred oxide
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not enough modifiers and it just drains my mp faster. i can sustain it with mana strike, but that costs damage

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also, i underestimated how much harder this game is when i have to aim my attacks

elfin rapids
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That's sad.

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I was pretty excited about that one.

karmic folio
karmic folio
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on my Focus I have 3 nodes with 20% less dmg taken each and all together give 49% instead of 60%

kindred oxide
# elfin rapids That's sad.

It's just because like:
(Base x 1.16 x 1.48 x 1.60 x 1.50 x 1.32)
+50% Crit Multi and +8 Melee.

Those are the multipliers you are getting out of Flame Reave's skill tree.

(Base x 1.30 x 1.18)

That's all you're getting out of Frost Claw

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and Frost Claw scales off INT only

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while Flame Reave scales off of INT and DEX

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napkin math says Frostclaw added like 3.9% to my DPS.

that's before counting what it costs to mana. 5 passive points I had to move, and taking skills out of surge/teleport.

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was cool to try out tho haha

karmic folio
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With Meteor does it make a difference if I take 120% more spell damage or 120% more fire damage?

lunar elbow
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ayyyy nice

nimble shoal
lunar elbow
#

why is this bloody thing so borderline impossible to beat

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:D

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I finally managed to beat the regular double omen thing

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and now I get this

karmic folio
# lunar elbow grrrr

these omen runs would be much easier for me if those bosses were actualy untargetable and not just invincible, I autocast over 20 meteors per second at them and just go oom all the time

left hill
lunar elbow
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but it's not just me right?

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the difficulty of that particular echo is really really higher than everything else no?

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I just ignored it and added an extra +70 corruption and the shade died in like 3 hits :/

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those champions that get empowered by the omens feel like they got about 20x the hp

karmic folio
#

was that the triple omen thing where you can do all at once ?

lunar elbow
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no I think it was just 2

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and all the mobs are champions

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it's the second part that really messes me up, getting oneshot by like a random 10k attack from a newly spawned mob offscreen

nimble shoal
lunar elbow
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haha I guess it ought to be at least 50% harder

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but I feel like it would just be the same thing really, just with an extra empowered champion wailing at you

nimble shoal
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It's 3 greater windows, and to do it properly, you need to have all three open at the same time for at least a moment

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there's basically nowhere to move because the room is filled with enemies lol

cosmic dove
#

this took a long time to find 😂

cosmic dove
#

@harsh abyss you have time for some pulsar build TCing?

lunar elbow
#

HAHA OH GOD

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I JUST GOT THE TRIPLE ONE NOW HAHAHA

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nahhhhh how the hell am I supposed to beat this

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oh yeah I think it might have been the triple one before as well I was just too panicked to notice it

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pinnacle of chaos

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what a bs echo :D

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like bruh

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I kill like 5 champions and then I'm toast

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it's like, the first 3 are easy because of how they each spawn in one corner, but by the time you've killed a couple, you're suddenly against 1v3 nonsense oneshot hits

real rain
#

Yeah they are ridiculously overtuned lol

lunar elbow
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like are these even supposed to be beatable when you first start finding them?

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before finding one your build feels completely OP for the corruption level, and then you find this and you feel like you did something crazy wrong in the build somewhere :D

real rain
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There's no way to beat them at that time with an average build, it's just too much tbh

lunar elbow
#

I could probably beat one if I had like +100 extra primary stats or something basic like that

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but not like this

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should probably keep them to only having 2 at a time until 500+ corruption at least

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maybe 750+ corruption even

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2 I could probably beat rn

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but 3 no way

left hill
lunar elbow
#

ah, well thanks for confirming

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at least I know there's nothing wrong on my end :D

delicate cape
#

why r all the key echoes "arena keys" i dont even do those on hc.
Is there a reason there arent "generic key" echoes? and can i do anything like trade-ins with the arena keys

pulsar belfry
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can i legendary a staff into my wand?

tight swift
half pollen
lunar elbow
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yummy yummy skill levels tho

tight swift
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what corruption were you doing it on?

lunar elbow
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301

tight swift
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crazy dps

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but you are still struggling?

lunar elbow
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I found a funny build

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it's not tanky enough though

tight swift
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interesting build

lunar elbow
tight swift
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is it spellblade?

lunar elbow
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yeah

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it's the one where you hold down 2 buttons

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mana strike and shatter strike

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it's always out of mana but if you have shatterstrike to the left of manastrike it will prioritize shatterstrike

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so it goes like shatterstrike->manastrike->shatterstrike->etc on repeat by itself

tight swift
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that's cool is there youtube video for a build or is yours more unique

lunar elbow
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no it's basically the same as the regular spellblade shatterstrike buil d

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just different gear

tight swift
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ah ok

tight swift
weary hamlet
left hill
silk pewterBOT
#
Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (85) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,733, Regen: 51.92/s
▸ Mana: 162.51, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 340%, Regen: 149/s
▸ Attributes: 121 Str / 36 Dex / 121 Int / 19 Att / 64 Vit
▸ Resistances: 110% / 73% / 122% / 83% / 83% / 82% / 106%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 883
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (336)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,555)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

vivid wedge
silk pewterBOT
#
Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (85) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,798, Regen: 452.2/s
▸ Mana: 209.51, Regen: 9.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 386%, Regen: 52/s
▸ Attributes: 144 Str / 71 Dex / 144 Int / 29 Att / 76 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 116% / 80% / 95% / 75% / 106% / 158%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 1,511
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (525)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,290)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

left hill
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"more" damage showing up in the "increased" is kind of silly

lunar elbow
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ohhhh nice

tight swift
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finally beat uber aberroth

delicate cape
#

I finally just did a major respec (HC SSF), swapping my exalted helm, ring, gloves, amulet with set forged. And chest + boots into legendaries.

It's great. the damage is insane.

But my mana sustain is ass and kinda breaks the build. I understand the concept of Foot of the Mountain retaining "free casting" if you don't move (Glacier is fine).
But I went from ~20 mana regen (free casting and playing), to almost none, and it just is a bit disappointing from a "feel" perspective, even though the damage is like 4-5x.

Any recommendations?

delicate cape
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Oh...........F....

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That makes bossing somewhat challenging. Also "standing still" for the benefit of Mountain is not ideal for HC

left hill
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if you can fit Focus into your skill specializations, you could spec it for the Null Profusion chain and just tap it when it's off cooldown and you go under 0 mana to gain 40% back

unborn hamlet
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Unless you have 600-700 mana

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Spam drink potions so your Orian belt restores your mana

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Foot of the mountain is just a situational mana sustain

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I personally use flame rush instead of glacier for movement because of the frenzy on exit nodes

delicate cape
#

is foot of mountain reallyi BiS. I dont love it.
I know it' snot gospel but the maxroll guide has it as Aspirational.

delicate cape
unborn hamlet
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What build? I assume lightning blast considering the items?

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If so, yes foot of the mountain is BiS because of the +12 to all

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Helps with the +skill attribute stacking for the amulet

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I would use unstable core 1LP instead of static shell too

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More DMG more mana more mana regen and more skill points to use

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But I assume you don't wanna die since it's a HC char so I can understand, the armour against shocked enemies is pretty strong

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In that case look into help from someone to get shattered worlds relic,

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+9/10 all, permanent haste, good DMG reduction roll, preferably 1LP so you can slam int, but usable even without it

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Definitely better than the scroll you have

real rain
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isn't twisted heart bis for LB?

unborn hamlet
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It's there for defensive layer

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SW is way better DPS , utility, and good DMG reduction roll makes it almost as good as twisted

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Only thing you lose on is some cast speed which is redundant if you have good idols

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+10 to all is just too powerful for the build

full bluff
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Anyone found a way of WASD movement with Mana Guide Focus to work, with aimed teleport at the same time?

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Since Focus becomes a movement skill I can't WASD move with Focus at the same time as having aimed teleport

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Focus as movement skill does not count as a short range movement skill in WASD setup. Makes it impossible to use in combination with long range teleport.

proven haven
# real rain isn't twisted heart bis for LB?

Yea SW is fine. You still have frostguard for ward but lose TH.

Flat crit means you dont need crit elsewhere, so means you dont need crit on amulet or glove. Frenzy effect is really good to if perma frenzy especially.

full bluff
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I need 3 fixes to improve my meteor gameplay:

  • Fix the cast-on-crit proc on Harbinger of Stars belt to not trigger on meteor crits
  • Make Focus + Mana Guide Count as short range movement skill for WASD Controls
  • Make Arcane Ascendance buff effects like slow, more damage, mana on kill count based on if you cast the skill while in Arcane Ascendance mode, not on if you are in AA when they land/hit
proven haven
full bluff
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WASD movement fix is the most important to me, since it is a major change in how to play. Could be just adding Focus to the list of short movement skills, then it is fixed 🙂

real rain
rare pilot
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Guys is there any S tier spellblade build this season? (that can comfortably kill uberroth like LB)

real rain
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flame reave can get sub 3 minute kills with decent gear, pretty sure shatter strike was already getting good uber kill times as well

rare pilot
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Immortal vise and shattered world not needed right? Because I play CoF so I can't get those before uberroth (can Market people even buy ubberoth gear before killing ubberoth?)

real rain
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you can indeed buy uber gear

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but yeah they're not needed

rare pilot
#

For flame reave I've seen two kills with 2 builds (one by bokchoy that uses mana strike, and one by lizard which doesn't use mana strike). Which one does higher dps?

real rain
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I can't stand MG tbh, if I want to play the market I'll play poe where I can't target farm items efficiently. LE will always feel more satisfying as CoF. the imprint nerfs suck though.

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and well

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bokchoy has a 3 minute and 2 minute kill. lizard took over 4 minutes.

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so def not lizards

rare pilot
real rain
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yeah absolutely

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it feels more earned

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I saw another sub 3 minute kill using dual wielding but I feel like that's asking to get one shot in the uber fight

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you lose so much damage reduction that the 2 handed version has access to

rare pilot
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Oh wow, and seems you don't gain that much dps over the 2 handed version too

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Since it's also sub 3

real rain
#

the flame reave staff is absurd so ye

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the more attack speed you have the stronger it is

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  • more levels to flame reave is insane since the tree has so many sources of more damage
rare pilot
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Ah

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I see in bokchoy first clear his planner uses immortal vise and shattered world. I guess vise can be replaced with falcon fist before I get it and what do I replace SW with? Twisted heart for extra survivability?

real rain
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falcon fist with LP is what I'd use yeah since you can get a lot of attack speed just from that

proven haven
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Yea the staff math looked pretty crazy tbh. When I did the calcs it should be possible to get like 10m hits on Uber

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With cooldown, granted, but still pretty high with normal spec

rare pilot
#

Woahhh it's FrozenSentinel!

robust junco
#

More like frozen mage 😎

rare pilot
real rain
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I got lucky and hit the frenzy + attack speed corruption on my staff so with falcon fists the attack speed is crazy

rare pilot
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Wtf

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What's the reliable source of frenzy before SW? I guess corrupted throne of ambition?

full bluff
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Think they would ever be open to make a weapon swap feature?

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Running AOE staff and single damage staff now

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Anoying having to manually switch

weary hamlet
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hopefully not, it really dilutes build identity/specialization and weapon swap gameplay is usually very annoying

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can't remember a game off the top of my head where it wouldn't be a UI/UX nightmare

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poe2 perhaps where you can fully automate it depending on build so it's a non-mechanic to begin with

full bluff
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AOE staff and stun staff for bosses

native jacinth
rare pilot
native jacinth
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I haven’t used it yet will when I get 4 on my chest, if u use it can. You let me know how often it’s up?

robust junco
weary hamlet
#

damn I forgot that line fireball only works for direct casts

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rest in pis s my fireball ignite build with embers

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might need to swap into flame claw zzz

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also embers is still just as bad as we imagined, getting an average of one recast of fireball per wisp's lifetime

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might also swap into glyph ignite, now the question is, life based with runeword avalanche must be the way right?

rotund ocean
#

Has anyone tried flame reave with embers?

weary hamlet
#

ignite chance would be wasted entirely, and for the rest, let's do a quick napkin math, if we are getting an average of one wisp every 2 sec, and if we are spamming flame reave and not using the cooldown version, we can expect to get maybe one recast of flame reave per wisp on average over its entire lifetime

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so is one flame reave per 2 seconds (that can also miss etc) better than the crit multi neck?

finite cobalt
#

legends entwined was a mistake

weary hamlet
#

yea

finite cobalt
#

I'm so mad that my fireball CoC meteor is already 2x better than with bluefeather while I only have like 2 sets activated and can up that to 4 or 5 maybe

#

what a dumb item

rotund ocean
#

Cover the entire arena with flame reaves

weary hamlet
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wisps must be within 12m of you too to trigger

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just in case

rotund ocean
#

but Bokchoy already showed covering the entire area by stacking area lol

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
finite cobalt
weary hamlet
#

with blue band you get twice the meteors per fireball mana wise

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also the chaining via potion refill from your belt is twice as effective

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cause again twice the meteors per mana pool

finite cobalt
#

yeah true, I hate using potions though so there's that

weary hamlet
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its like use potion, instant 10 meteors, use another, instant 10 meteors again, etc

finite cobalt
#

but I think the damage can go much higher than with bluefeather though

weary hamlet
#

of course this is most relevant on bosses

weary hamlet
finite cobalt
#

more attributes = more flat damage for vilatria, the gear is also easier I suppose

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it's also more comfy because you get all res too ...

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some unfinished sets also gives nice bonus at 2 parts : invoker gives 15% cast speed, halvar 20 cold spell and 20 phys spell which is decent for meteor

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also meteor at 50 costs gets a better %more bonus from the sorc passive right

daring epoch
#

So I've followed the endgame / aspirational build for lightning rune master, mostly t7 + t/6/5 2 or 3 lp uniques. And I struggle with normal abberoth. Am I missing something? thought this build was an uber abby destroyer

weary hamlet
#

so did anybody actually play ele nova this patch? It's still abysmal right?

#

getting all the juicy ele nova drops

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and prism nova too

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rngesus hates me he wants me to suffer

cosmic dove
#

yeah Zerak tried to start nova and gave up pretty quick

kindred oxide
weary hamlet
kindred oxide
coral lion
#

I think Sorc needs to get reworked

weary hamlet
#

im not suffering enough, need to roll another meme build

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other than random oneshots my coc meteor is not too bad with a few gear upgrades

#

should I roll glyph of dominion or wandering spirits aco?

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glyph sounds like a more reasonable build so probably need to go with aco

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but with the power creep it's still gonna pwn normal aby and 500+ corr which is my benchmark for meme builds

kindred oxide
coral lion
#

First change
From:

  • Meteor
    5 Static Orb
    15 Ice Barrage
    30 Arcane Ascendance
    40 Black Hole

To:

  • Arcane Ascendance
    5 Static Orb
    15 Meteor
    30 Ice Barrage
    40 Blackhole
cosmic dove
weary hamlet
#

lol no

full bluff
#

I tried using elemental nova damage proc from meteor, it does 200k dmg on dummy, so was just 10% boost to meteor

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elemental nova by itself went to a bit over 600k

cosmic dove
#

I've gotten BH/Pulsar to 300C but ...

weary hamlet
#

a meme build still needs to be fun

cosmic dove
#

this dropped which was cool

weary hamlet
#

meteor bh sounds like eating fiberglass

coral lion
#

I used Mana strike for my sorc to proc lightning: Static Orb, Meteor, Frost Claw and Elemental Nova. Not enough to regenerate mana with all that fire power. I ditched Elemental Nova for Focus Traveler.

weary hamlet
#

like idk VO sb is still kinda fun

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even if it's pretty bad

cosmic dove
#

I actual like how it plays but I'm not afraid a more than one button press ... crazy I know 😉

weary hamlet
#

although old VO frostbite SB is pretty good for a non meta build

cosmic dove
#

@weary hamlet actually since I am meme-ing it up, question for you
I discovered that I dont really have mana issues so null nodes on Focus were wasted in 99% of content
I dropped them and with all the ICRS for BH, focus CD is 2s
I grabbed the teleport/focus node and it works
this means my skills are: BH, Meteor, Flame Ward, Focus. I can drop teleport. the question is--what would possibly be useful in place of it

AA is a no go for me, I hate standing still
FC w/ Heat Flux on Meteor works if I spec fully into reduced cost. but I have to give up 3 meteor nodes for heat flux and I'm pretty sure the damage from 18 FCs is giving back less than that
Snap Freeze to interrupt bosses but it is pretty situational
Flame Rush has a 1.6s CD but I am not sure what it gives me other than a little frenzy

any suggestions/thoughts?

weary hamlet
sterile ledge
#

yeeee just took out my first omen champion window

cosmic dove
#

yeah. I drop BHs mainly, meteor in between BH CDs

weary hamlet
#

you know what, I have no idea what else would be useful in that build either

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flame rush can be used for its dr I guess

cosmic dove
#

I got to 300C and bosses vaporize with 6 BHs on them
I am squishy as hell but that is the mage life

weary hamlet
#

also your shit does add random incidental ignites right? could eat them for ward with flame rush omegalul

#

scraping the bottom of the barrel here

cosmic dove
#

yeah I thought about that but you are right
trash doesnt live long enough to be able to rush through them
so it would only be on bosses

weary hamlet
#

damn getting hard checked by lack of dispel in omens with my health belt

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and losing a ton of ward with the cleanse belt

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getting globaled from 2k hp and 6k ward by fu cking pyromancers

cosmic dove
#

yeah 300C is new to me (first season I ever put any time in)
and damn the damage ramps up

weary hamlet
#

its just a few overtuned mobs as usual

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and weaver spirits on nemesis/champs

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the pyromancers from soulfire were never not a problem but thye just plopped them as is into monos and added even more scaling from omens

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typical EHG when you get oneshot by damage "over time"

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and this build isnt even that squishy with 18% dr from meteor belt and another 10 from red ring and you know flame ward etc

cosmic dove
#

I come from a HC diablo background
but I quickly noped right out of HC in LE because of all that ^^

weary hamlet
#

yea I don't bother with HC either too much random bullshit in the game

finite cobalt
#

that one woven echo where you have to defeat 8 primordial champion beasts, 10 times harder than most other stuff but it's written nowhere 😬

weary hamlet
#

it was all over the feedback back in 1.3 cause it was just as bad

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well guess what EHG don't give a shit

left hill
versed hawk
#

Anyone made a successful Voidwinter bolts build?

weary hamlet
#

I don't think that I ever saw one, the damage seems to be a little low for that

umbral perch
# versed hawk Anyone made a successful Voidwinter bolts build?

if the conversion on Bane of Winter is also bugged (like the spellblade mastery's supposedly is) to only apply to generic melee damage, then you're only getting 94 spell damage out of your weapon. probably needs other sources of flat damage to get very far

harsh abyss
#

One day they'll have a season where things people are specifically hyped for aren't bugged, but it won't be this season

umbral perch
#

been digging through the various weapon options in light of the mastery conversion being bugged and Jasper's Searing Pride is looking like a strong winner for spell trigger builds at the 1LP level of gear. at least for raw spell damage. even for cold >_<

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at 2LP if you slam T7 attack speed and T7 spell damage on Transcriber's Graver that is more flat

waxen token
#

is flame reave uber viable? I really don't wanna swap to shatter strike for it

weary hamlet
#

yea

lunar elbow
#

ehehehe now we cooking

river kayak
lunar elbow
#

I just hit the full build pretty much

#

now it just needs upgrades and idol tweaking

river kayak
#

What pieces should I go for first?

#

Having trouble prioritizing

lunar elbow
#

legends entwined ring and abandoned eyes of the weaver amulet

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those two combined with a bunch of common set pieces that you can just slam corruption on is absurd amounts of value early game

river kayak
#

Ok are you following maxroll build because I don't see those?

lunar elbow
#

nah xd

silk pewterBOT
#
Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (85) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,798, Regen: 452.2/s
▸ Mana: 209.51, Regen: 9.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 386%, Regen: 52/s
▸ Attributes: 144 Str / 71 Dex / 144 Int / 29 Att / 76 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 116% / 80% / 95% / 75% / 106% / 158%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 1,511
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (525)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,290)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

river kayak
#

Ok

lunar elbow
#

but without knowing it

river kayak
#

Oh you're doing the strength version

lunar elbow
#

yeah :D

river kayak
#

The maxroll is dex but says to build like yours if you want to go strength!

vivid wedge
#

you can get some really fun % more via brutality conversion

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~60% more without too much hassle

torn rampart
#

did anyone crack uberoth with fire aura

kindred oxide
#

Flame Reave is better wave clear.

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Shatter Strike is better single target.

kindred oxide
proven haven
#

I think I can get it there with a bit of tweaking. Only had a couple days to play with it before I went away on vacation and did pinnacle

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Omen pinnacle

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A lot of room for improvement

umbral perch
#

Just to sanity check, Blade Weaver would boost Shatterstrike and the Ice Spikes it triggers, and ailments applied by both, but would not boost any resulting Glacier casts, right?

harsh abyss
#

Correct, any skill you can specialize in doesn't get boosted by things like that.

cosmic dove
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@harsh abyss any idea on how I can get pulsar crit maxed?
2-handed sword and almost every slot a set so I'm struggling
(meteor is fine because of its base crit node)

harsh abyss
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Intelligence stacking with weaver amulet is probably the best bet. It gives a decent amount of flat and your intelligence should be enough to cap it from there?

cosmic dove
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true but you already have me doing invoker in ammy/ring slots (with LE in 2nd ring)

harsh abyss
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Yeah it's a tough call. You'd lose 5 levels from Invoker being gone, but if you can stack 240 total attributes, you can use ferobor + weaver amulet, which will be +2 from sets and +2 from attributes

cosmic dove
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hmm Id have to check. I dont think Im at 240 yet

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well I'm at 230 but a lot of that is from LE ...

harsh abyss
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Well, you're gonna get more from LE by replacing invoker with 2 sets

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So that might push you over 240

cosmic dove
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I will have to farm, I didnt have Ferobor on my loot filter so I dont have any

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but maybe this will work

harsh abyss
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Ah yeah, in the future I'd recommend leaving all the sets on your filter to start out so you can have a few for shattering

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Ferobor specifically is a good one to pair with LE in basically any mage build

sharp sun
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wtf did i just made 🤣

delicate cape
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I have a T6 cast speed and crit multi.

Is 1 generally gonna be preferred

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I worry about cast speed cuz I'm already burning thru my mana..

tight swift
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if i had 2 LP on spoon, i would go t7 crit multi, t6 cast speed

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if it's 1 LP, just go for crit

delicate cape
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ok cool

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I have a 2LP Fragment of the Enigma. Unforutnately this is the best offhand i have. may YOLO it

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Actually i may wait for something better. 2LP is 1:12, and im playing HC SSF, sooo.. hm

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yeah i wait

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How do i start getting more double-exalted and T7s. I havent seen barely any T7s....

umbral perch
carmine abyss
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can I put mad alchmist ladle in the woven tree slots? will it increase the drop rate eg. cache loot or champions etc ?

nimble shoal
carmine abyss
sterile ledge
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wait, can corrupting overcap stats?

carmine abyss
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ok

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tysm

nimble shoal
sterile ledge
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ah phew, that saves me some min max headaches i guess 😅

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was just testing out a 1lp with a junk t7 spell damage to see dps change with ww vs just an exalted for now and then got worried id need to yolo for overcaps as well

steel steppe
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I recently updated my Attunement Stacking Runemaster with Exulis. It's phenomenal for farming, but single target is also ok. Here is a video with Fractured Prison fight 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhJfvWIM4Gg

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but I use it mostly to farm Omen Veils at 1000c

carmine abyss
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can someone tell me what spiderling packs mean?

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from the woven tree

left hill
carmine abyss
left hill
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honestly idk if guides recommend it. i have a point in currently bc I'd rather see other echoes spawn and not beacons, but I could see a case for the super beacons to make it easier to bee-line to specific echoes

carmine abyss
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cant remember exactly but I've seen it somewhere

left hill
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it's a weaver node right before the "loot lizards drop extra exalted items" node

nimble shoal
sacred kite
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Is there a bug with Legends Entwined? I have 3 sets active but only getting the +skill bonus for 2: Vilatria's, Weaver Amulet, and Last gift of the Mountain

nimble shoal
delicate cape
umbral perch
kindred oxide
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idk why anyone says spellblade is squishy

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"squishy" is an adjective that describes a build, not a specialization

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so what they mean is "i built my spellblade squishy"

delicate cape
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classes can inherently be squishier than others, based on the skills and passives they use

vivid wedge
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"spellblade's reliance on on-hit ward generation, combined with relatively average other defenses (general DR, dodge, armor) and needing to be melee to get those hits in, makes it squisher than other masteries"

nimble shoal
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The mage looks like a fairly squishy guy, just has that aura, you know?

weary wagon
kindred oxide
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I feel tankier than my similarly geared erasing strike on spellblade. shrug

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Ate two of the three triple flail 😂

delicate cape
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I've go the follwoing uncompleted Woven Echoes. Are any of them particularly rippy / currently overtuned?

  • Bloodline Glade
  • Vault of the Barnacle King
  • Nesting Grove
  • Cenotaph of Worlds
  • Oerden's Watch
  • Collapsing Horizon
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never done any of those)

vivid wedge
kindred oxide
# vivid wedge "spellblade's reliance on on-hit ward generation, combined with relatively avera...

imo: spellblade is meant to diversify their defenses. defensive layers are subject to diminishing returns. DR% granted by each point becomes less the more you have. (exception: endurance which is capped at 60%)

some other specs aren't built to have diverse defenses and are instead given tools towards one specific defensive layer. a erasing strike VK does not care about ward or dodge, for instance. but naturally has very high armor.

spellblade's passive tree rewards you for having a little bit in everything.

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i'm trying out a tankier set for omen farming. one sec

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (80) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,082, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 330.51, Regen: 13.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 250%, Regen: 244/s
▸ Attributes: 36 Str / 77 Dex / 104 Int / 22 Att / 31 Vit
▸ Resistances: 124% / 78% / 100% / 76% / 126% / 150% / 83%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 71%, Threshold: 852
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (645)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,916)
▸ Block Chance: 14%, Mitigation: 28% (588)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

carmine abyss
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can someone tell me why this corrupted mountain boots give me an extra all skill points? while the regualr one doesnt?? is this a bug ?

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+1 extra attrubute doesnt mean skill points but cant tell the reason behind it

left hill
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Bloodline Glade maybe less so now that they fixed the broken DOT effects on Rift Beasts bypassing resistance or whatever. Though they can still hit you quite hard (again relative to what 100C minimum might suggest) with the charge move if you don't play around that.

delicate cape
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thx! 🙂

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Is there a way to farm the Temporal Keystone? I just burned through all mine. Now I'm addicted to just boss killing

left hill
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Get rank 5 on the Harbinger progression and fight Harbingers.
Also can spec for loot lizards on the weaver tree, including the Green/Blue loot lizard with champions, because green loot lizards can drop them.

delicate cape
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RIP 89. Damn.
I was getting strong too.

One of those casters put a bunch of cold meteors on me and I didnt really notice. seems overtuned tbh.

real rain
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There's a lot of overtuned mobs in this game sadly.

delicate cape
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yeah... kinda makes HC tough. I feel like PoE was like that for a few years. This last league, I really enjoyed HC poe. Felt smooth

trim jasper
carmine abyss
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tysm i was so curious about this

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🫶

dawn widget
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Hot damn I can use this

kindred oxide
dawn widget
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Actually was curious... since you reccomended to swap relic for reliquary nest then what do i do for the amulet since i cant equip 2 primordial items

harsh abyss
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Couple easy options are Nihilis or Abandoned Weaver amulet

left hill
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i'm really enjoying Cursed Coin with the +1 Skill corruption for +2 skills total (and a bunch of mostly irrelevant lightning resistance)

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but i'm also aiming for Harmony of the First at some point, so exalted amulet makes a bit more sense in this case

lunar elbow
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weaver amulet only really makes sense when you go hard for it

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like this :D

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or I guess I mean legends entwined

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but they kinda combo

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just make a bunch of reforged pieces with a bunch of stats on them

lunar elbow
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holy shit what, I had no idea this corrupted affix existed

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that's a single affix that deadass just more than doubles my damage output

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wtf

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well, at least assuming I haven't already stacked tons of % increased melee damage

left hill
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yeah, it's a pretty nice one, even once you have a bunch of %inc, for the ~10% More multiplier (on 20+ cost melee attacks)

lunar elbow
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ye true

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and besides melee damage % is pretty rare to find elsewhere

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I only have 175% without it

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so it'd still add a whole lot

left hill
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well, any other relevant %increased is in the same bucket. e.g. if you're using a fire melee attack, increased %elemental, %fire, %melee all add together. plus any increased % scaling the skill has from attributes (int or dex)

lunar elbow
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ohhh, all damage type increased are in the same bucket?

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
vivid wedge
# lunar elbow ohhh, all damage type increased are in the same bucket?

Sorta, they all combine their tags the way you'd think:

  • Increased** fire melee** % as an affix adds only to fire melee %
  • increased elemental melee % adds to fire, lightning, and cold melee %
  • Increased melee % adds to fire, lightning, cold, necrotic, etc melee %
  • Increased fire % adds to fire melee %, fire spell %, fire throwing %, fire bow %...
  • Increased elemental % adds to fire/cold/lightning melee/spell/throwing/bow %...

So for stuff like flame reave which is fire and melee tagged and does only fire damage, all of the above get added up. For a fire spell like fireball, it'd be fire %, elemental %, spell %, fire spell %, elemental spell %..

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
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thus the value of increased is relatively low compared to more modifiers, but depending on the exact math picking up some increased might be optimal

weary hamlet
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especially i.e. for ele dot affixes in respective builds which tend to have high numbers

robust junco
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All ruined

weary hamlet
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obviously

radiant zenith
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So in the volcanic orb tree on mage, is there anyway to see the damage done by the Flame Glyph -> Fire Nova, Explosive Orb and Explosive Ground?

weary hamlet
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some of these should show up the tooltip if you hover the nodes with alt (or was it ctrl?) but tooltips are notoriously unreliable

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if tooltips don't show up you can look up the subskills on le tools in skills section

radiant zenith
dusk junco
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Can you use wasd movement with Lightning Blast Runemaster? Since its basically only Lightning Blast for damage and Glacier for movement?

weary hamlet
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one skill builds obviously don't suffer from that but if you are playing like VO builds that might be an issue

weary hamlet
dusk junco
weary hamlet
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idk I don't play that build

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but other than LB what do you even need

weary hamlet
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but don't worry that's hardly unique, I was just playing wandering spirits aco yesterday and the tooltips for that skill are worse than useless, they are actively misleading

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like if you read the tooltip you could conclude that the skill actually works in an opposite way to how it really functions and thus half of its tree and synergies would make no sense

lunar elbow
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eyy pretty decent

daring epoch
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Anyone got some uber abberoth lightning strike runemaster builds? I followed maxroll one with multiple double t7 gears and cant even down normal abberoth? 🤔

unborn hamlet
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Uh, if you mean lightning blast then you must be missing something crucial

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I kill normal Abby before he finishes his first slam

robust junco
lunar elbow
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I'm currently at the stage where I am oneshotting timeline bosses, shades and harbingers at 420 corruption, but if I go higher or into a triple omen I start getting oneshot by random mobs again XD

daring epoch
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awesome thanks

lunar elbow
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how do you guys build tankiness on spellblade?

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just more ward?

robust junco
daring epoch
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I get 1 shot

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but can down him but its deffiently not quick

robust junco
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You have to dodge the big slam

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And pretty much most aoe

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That's normal

daring epoch
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ah okay, been a while since I played so sort of forgot mechanics

robust junco
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Wait

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Isn't spark Charge most of your dmg?

daring epoch
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Yeah

robust junco
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I need someone with more experience than me

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But this should be 5/5 imo

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You are missing a lot of dmg there

daring epoch
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oh? I thought it would be if ive followed the guide

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maybe I missed it

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list doesnt look updated pretty sure i did max it but ill check when im online

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deffiently a fun build to play so hope i can push it more

robust junco
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I don't have any experience with the build, never played it but from what I saw in videos your dmg come from spark Charge, and this is the juiciest node

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Like this node doesn't apply to spark charges

daring epoch
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sweet

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ill look more into it

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was going to give up and go back to another character lol

robust junco
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With that gear, you should plow through regular Abby

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Go back to your guide /'video and make sure you didn't miss smth

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I had worse gear on worse build and bear Abby yesterday with ease

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Also, please dodge the AoE

daring epoch
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Haha ok

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thanks

weary hamlet
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you could try low life or vessel but they eat up too much of stat budget

unborn hamlet
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the guiide has some things outdated

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mortal capacitor is a need 5/5

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as said above remove shattershock, put all those points into mortal capacitor

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and fix your blessings a bit

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you pretty much have minroll on all of em

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its annoying but with temporal keystones u can do bosses till u hit what u need

lunar elbow
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I managed to get a pretty decent build going now I think

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time to push for 1000+ corruption

rancid vine
silk pewterBOT
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Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (79) / Runemaster (13)

General:

▸ Health: 1,766, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 1,390.39, Regen: 25.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 288%, Regen: 202/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 58 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 119% / 52% / 57% / 56% / 59% / 57% / 57%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 459
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (38)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,692)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:
unborn hamlet
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according to this u use none

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and i cant quite say if this is meteor spam or blackhole as main skill, but the belt that summons extra meteors on crit should be better than strand of souls

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Orian´s belt at 2-3LP and 20INT roll could also win out (Orian is pretty much the best belt for all INT builds)

kindred lintel
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which one do i use ? the only difference is 2 lightning blast will go into spark nova, from 50% chance to 100% is it worth the 8 int loss ?

rotund ocean
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corrupt both and see what happens

kindred lintel
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we have a winner

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i think we have a winner

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dont know which wins haha im already crit capped

rotund ocean
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I'd go with the right one personally

kindred lintel
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the +4?

rotund ocean
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Yeah, if you're already crit capped

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two res, +14 ward per second, increased health

kindred lintel
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isnt the8 int better ? damage wise ?

rotund ocean
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Depends on if its better than the 58% spell damage increase you're getting from the class affix

kindred lintel
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class affix ?

rotund ocean
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the + to lightning blast

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also gives increased spell damage

kindred lintel
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oh true

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actually i might have an idea, ill use the +4

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spec into shatter shock and volatile lightning

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only in shattershock 2 points30% more damage

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actually more because of chill

carmine abyss
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qq why does Lightning blast build more armor? what does armor do and ain't resistances are better even after 75% cap? newbie here

rotund ocean
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Resistances don't do anything past cap

carmine abyss
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so it shows 140% and still working like 75%?

rotund ocean
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Yep

carmine abyss
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damm

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hmm

rotund ocean
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Only thing resistances past cap does is for specific items or perks that specify it does something based on your total uncapped resistance

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or to save you from marked for death

carmine abyss
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how about armor?

rotund ocean
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70% of armor still works for non-dot damage outside of physical

carmine abyss
rotund ocean
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At 500+ corruption, the only thing that makes a difference is straight damage reduction

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That's why endurance is important

carmine abyss
silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (26) / Spellblade (6) / Runemaster (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,665, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 390.72, Regen: 11.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 392%, Regen: 32/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 38 Dex / 202 Int / 33 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 97% / 38% / 116% / 105% / 93% / 70% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 333
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (152)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,079)

carmine abyss
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still working on helmet and catalyst

rotund ocean
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I would farm a better twisted heart too

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The rolls are pretty low

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and its an easy drop

carmine abyss
rotund ocean
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Increased health goes up to 20% and the ward conversion goes up to 8%

rotund ocean
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And that ring could use more defenses too

carmine abyss
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so endurance is preventing me from getting one shot? how about strike avoidance? sometimes I cant tell the difference

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and people told me lightning blast doesnt need strike avoidance but more armors?

rotund ocean
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It'll tell you on the death screen if you died from a crit

carmine abyss
rotund ocean
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Yeah fading brink is no joke

carmine abyss
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any tip?

rotund ocean
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Arguably harder than the new omen boss

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Dont get hit

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Because everything one shots

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Try doing it at corruption 300 instead of 500

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that'll also help

carmine abyss
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😩

unborn hamlet
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In this case the 2 points to light blast is more DMG than 8extra int

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Also don't underestimate 1% extra light pen

unborn hamlet
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Invest into mortal capacitor 5/5 top priority with extra points

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Top right corner

sacred kite
formal olive
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I can't get Lightning Blast to chain to myself. I do not have Convergence. Anyone know what's going on?

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Well scratch that - I think I just saw it bounce to me. There just isn't a buff icon for when you get the increased dmg/crit chance.

unborn hamlet
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so just dont forget to respec that into more dmg later 👌

formal olive
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Ahaha, I was so confused at first thinking what does the Erased weaver amulet have to do with it. Then I realized you meant Eyes of the Weaver set amulet 🤣

weary hamlet
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2026, nothing changed

weary hamlet
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not to mention conflicting with convergence

proven haven
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Can make a copy of my LB dps sheet for that