🧙┃mage

[heady echo]

i memed together a void smite multistrike vit stack

its not a real starter, but the idea had merit, would need to fix the defensives on it

it ran frenzy helm with smite on hit gear converted to void and all the vit idols enhanced as much as possible, vit converted to rampancy for 233% attack speed from frenzy

[little pagoda]

My idols are gonna give me like 200% cast speed and like 400% lightning dmg

[heady echo]

yeah idols is tons of power this season

[harsh abyss]

Yeah they're crazy

[heady echo]

which is probably why really strong meta builds got toned down a hair

if only we could convert fire aura to necrotic

boneclamor helm with max vit and necrotic res idols

[eager sparrow]

One day with new classes

[heady echo]

im hoping one of the new classes or subtypes is a void mage

actual void mage support would be sick

[eager sparrow]

And probably broken with current void orb conversion. But it's story for the future

[harsh abyss]

Void Black Hole gang unite

[sacred kite]

Probably dumb question, but Titan Heart's damage reduction works with a staff right?

[eager sparrow]

Any twohander yes

[eager sparrow]

Welp staff is melee in game so yes. Ignoring fact that staffs is often caster's weapon, it's indeed melee weapon

Even wand is melee)

Only weapon that is not melee is bow

[cosmic dove]

pair it with void meteor 😉

[woven cedar]

is wildfire embers a good pairing w/ meteors so they get cast by the wisps?

[heady echo]

we will have to see how the new tickrate for wildfire impacts the casts

[karmic folio]

how do you make meteor void dmg?

[robust junco]

Get Flat Void Spell

Even though the tag is still Fire, It now deals Void Dmg

[karmic folio]

well that works with every spell then, and most of the dmg is still fire

[tribal veldt]

in that case the answer you're looking for is, no you can't make meteor void

[weary hamlet]

use procs to stack up sacrificial embrace, spend on direct meteor casts

pepega

[tribal veldt]

sac embrace in the big 26, holy

[robust junco]

It depends on how much Flat Spell vs Flat Void Spell you have

[tribal veldt]

sleep deprived cooking

(this isn't anything)

[karmic folio]

I also equip whatever looks the coolest, I dont look at stats 🥹

[calm plinth]

You answered the call of the Void :3

[harsh abyss]

My guess is no. I did some testing with Wildfire last season and the amount of wisps you generate and how often they repeat your spells is... low

But we'll have to see how the changes feel with the ignite stuff

IMO they should split the wisps and the proliferation into two different items so they can both be strong on their own. The item feels kind of crowded so no one piece of it can be too powerful

[weary hamlet]

but you should now get twice the amount of wisps, maybe it's not gonna be as bad

but yeah trying it with a low cast speed high damage spell is going to be very swingy

[weary hornet]

Butchers crown has a lot of potential. Too bad reliquary nest will be more meta than SW

[harsh abyss]

Also with meteor, you're usually just deleting things instantly

[weary hornet]

With great prejudice.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, but it's kind of diametrically opposed to the wisps. You have to ignite, then wisps have to spawn, then they have a low chance to copy your cast. ALSO it's an indirect cast so you'll get ONE meteor out of each wisp cast 🙁

[calm plinth]

Could someone more Excel/math savvy help me out to check a couple of things?

The formula & logic is extrapolated of the examples from LETools (i know their calculations are not sorted out properly, so that's why I'm checking if this makes sense).

All is done on Excel (local, not online), happy to send the file, if that is possible.

All stats are taken from the build that I've put together last night, haven't updated the gear based on all of your feedbacks thus far, but I've saved every iteration that you guys have presented. So I am grateful for all of your assistance ❤️

[weary hamlet]

also wisps are very ignite focused so you don't want to be using meteor either way, but something like ignite VO is gonna be fire

literally

[harsh abyss]

yeah

Ignite Fireball would be good, except they made it so only direct casts do the "cast in a line" version, which means you're getting 1 hit per wisp instead of like 8 🙁

[calm plinth]

Note#1 Jormun's set should be 0, on this screen shot, as isn't in the build atm, but I've only had it as additive in the total sources of More Multi, thus not multiplied by the Fire Rez multiplier itself

[weary hamlet]

fire what? Bro didnt you get the memo like 3 years ago that all these useless skills are obsolete when you have frost claw

aka fire claw

and also lightning claw

[harsh abyss]

Nah, we hate frost claw

[weary hamlet]

but anet I mean GGG sorry blizzard love it so they will keep pushing it

like you can now even proc it with meteor

[harsh abyss]

That's such a weird choice

I would've made meteors proc ele nova

[weary hamlet]

more coc meteor

shrapnel = 1 hit per meteor, frost claw = 15 hits per meteor

[cosmic dove]

🐓 ☄️

[heady echo]

More multiplies themselves, don’t add then multiply more1*more2 etc

[weary hamlet]

omegalul the eggplant emoji is banned on this server

omegaluuul

[cosmic dove]

but the rooster got by the censors 😉

[weary hamlet]

le gallic rooster

le LE

[calm plinth]

Hmm i must have misunderstood the comments from earlier then (when we were having the discussion for Jormun's)

[heady echo]

So if you have only fire res and only jormuns it’s 1000*1.2

If you add throne, it’s 1000*.1.2.*1.4

[weary hamlet]

actually I might even try it, with the blue band making most of this crap free or negligible on mana cost should be trivial

[heady echo]

Discord markdown breaking it

1000x1.2x1.4

More multi is exponential

From separate sources

I lost 1 million dps taking siphon off my build which is a 1.14

[calm plinth]

ok, fixed the formulas on the sheet, ty xD
with Jormun's and Throne, it went to 19Mil xD

now the question is if i can squeeze them in xD

[ornate coral]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApbWxM4k
Ok so there is my degenerate fantasy build. Just as starter
My idea, lightning meteor, trigger lightning blast to help with damage.
So i need advice for tankiness, damage improvement and actual fix if this is like not playable (probably mana) really thanks 😄

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (25) / Sorcerer (88)

General:

▸ Health: 2,058, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 632.26, Regen: 20.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 192%, Regen: 108/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 8 Dex / 90 Int / 8 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 99% / 83% / 79% / 76% / 84% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 412
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,160)

Used skills:

Meteor / Lightning Blast / Focus / Arcane Ascendance / Flame Ward

[calm plinth]

if you're using Legens Entwined, why are u not trying to seal sets instead of the ones you've selected?

[ornate coral]

Im using invoker and vilatria and they are both sealed no?

[harsh abyss]

Here's my version of the same build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A14R9b85

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (62) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (26)

General:

▸ Health: 1,580, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 433.61, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 467%, Regen: 53/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 31 Dex / 204 Int / 25 Att / 31 Vit
▸ Resistances: 35% / 11% / 59% / 11% / 11% / 42% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 316
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (431)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,149)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Used skills:

Meteor / Teleport / Focus / Snap Freeze / Lightning Blast

[weary hornet]

Shrapnel is an aoe that'll hit multiple enemies and has huge range too. My only gripe is it's fire based. Static claw is cool as a proc for meteor, but for autobomber, you lose the initial chance to proc meteor by swapping out static or arcane ascendance. Frostclaw procs will be lit for direct cast tho.

[calm plinth]

invoker was incomplete, u only had bonuses for vilatria, still net sum, even if u weren't benefiting form the bonuses from the sealed sets directly (stats they provided) it would be better to have them so u get extra buck from Legends entwined. 6% cast speed or 10% physical res is not worth vs the bonus you will get from LE directly by completing sets

[ashen glacier]

are these new buidls better than rm lb?

[calm plinth]

gimme a sec, trying to shufle things around for u, at least on the gear side, don't know much about the passives for mage tho

[ornate coral]

I added invoker seal on the amulet, thanks, i should have vilatria and invoker active now, even tho i dosn't really show on the builder

[harsh abyss]

Invoker set isn't super good for the build. Meteor is only 1 element, which means you're getting +2 levels from the invoker set. Instead, you can use the new Abandoned Weaver amulet, and get that pretty easily since you're stacking Intelligence to make your Vilatria set strong.

[left hill]

Mike avoiding all the Qs today about shatter conversion got me nervous lol

[harsh abyss]

AND you can add Ferebor to your other ring, to get another full set for Legends Entwined

Also don't be afraid to use Exalted items and Legendary items in your builds, it's not like Path of Exile where getting the specific uniques for your builds (and 1-2LP versions) is super hard. You'll naturally get lots of T6-7 affixes as you progress into the endgame and you can guarantee 1lp slams on your uniques, wihch makes getting things like T7 intelligence very easy on basically any item.

[ashen glacier]

i see sentinel and rogue has builds doing over 10K corruption can mage do this with any build?

[ornate coral]

Yeah ikr, just did not want to bother, i just want a general idea of where i am going, im working on the unqiues rn, ty for the tips !

[calm plinth]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVap12jl

The only item that i've changed is the wand - it's not extremely hard to farm it, just need to kill some mages and a bit of RNG.

Now this is just optimising your current selected gear for maximum bonuses through Legends Entwined. I am under the impression you havent selected any T7s because this would be just gear expected to find through campaign/early monos, right? not a bad gear selection for that scenario, but there is a lot more you can get/optimise

I haven't touched any of your passives, as again, haven't read them properly. I Would highly recommend getting the "5/8 Arcane Warden" from Spellblade nodes - U can even drop the 5 points from base mage (Sun and Storms) if u dont wanna mess your Sourcerer's points. If you want cross reference with the builds that were posted earlier during the day. They guys have been putting together several Sourcerer builds and you can get more info from there.

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (25) / Sorcerer (88)

General:

▸ Health: 2,169, Regen: 53.32/s
▸ Mana: 647.33, Regen: 20.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 220%, Regen: 110/s
▸ Attributes: 52 Str / 22 Dex / 104 Int / 22 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 97% / 113% / 97% / 79% / 90% / 112% / 103%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 538
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (88)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,147)

Used skills:

Meteor / Lightning Blast / Focus / Arcane Ascendance / Flame Ward

[harsh abyss]

If you're going for the "low effort" version, my usual go-to is just a single T7 modifier on unique items, or a set item with a sealed T1 set bonus and 1 T7 mod, that way you can kind of see what the 'base' version of your build will be.

LE is easy enough that while getting to that point you can just kinda equip the best items you have and roll with it

[calm plinth]

Also, yea, what @harsh abyss said above, new weaver amulet + ferebor's on ring

[ornate coral]

Thanks a lot for your time and the passiv tip !
I will actually just use vilatria set full for the early part of the game then switch to a habinger of stars with the mad alch ladle once i drop it ye !
And yeah i did not bother with T6/7 just for the planner

[calm plinth]

Just as reference, these are the bonuses that I'm getting from my setup with Weaver's amulet & Legends Entwined

[weary hornet]

I'll be using a T8 vilatria staff for my meteor autobomber. Since I'm not heavily stacking intelligence in lieu of damage while channelling, I may even forego vilatria set bonus for a helm with more utility.

[ornate coral]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGzy1jam i guess final starter version
And here are my ideas for the late game swap :
Harbinger of star swap -- Full fire/mana stack
Helmet : fractured crown
Body : Woven flesh // Unstable core
Boot : Foot of the mountain
Gloves : grasp of the blood mage
Ring : Decent rolled font of the erased?// Julra's Stardial// Oceareon // Red ring ++ Blue Feather
Belt : Harbinger of stars
Relic : Knowledge of an erased mage // Twisted heart
MH : Mad alch ladle
OH: Scale of eterra cold/lightning

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (25) / Sorcerer (88)

General:

▸ Health: 1,861, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 698.68, Regen: 19.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 178%, Regen: 86/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 14 Dex / 83 Int / 14 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 103% / 87% / 86% / 83% / 97% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 372
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (56)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,090)

Used skills:

Meteor / Lightning Blast / Focus / Arcane Ascendance / Flame Ward

[ornate coral]

What do you think?

[harsh abyss]

If you arent stacking intelligence vilatria isnt worth using. But you dont have to stack it mega high for it to be good. Just like 100-150 is already great.

[weary hornet]

I'd dump flame ward for static for the additional chance to proc meteor. You're getting a ton of mana back with focus and desperate meditation.

[ornate coral]

Have not touched the skill at all for the swap, i have to dive into haha, same with passiv tree

[harsh abyss]

I wouldnt go for the meteor belt of you're planning to self cast meteors. The procs will cost the full amount but only drop 1 meteor.

[weary hornet]

Mana stacking past 1500 is important so desperate meditation works better. Bluefeather doesn't work with this build because the focus pulse loses a ton of power

[ornate coral]

it will be triggered by this point

[weary hornet]

Oh snap

[harsh abyss]

Then you shouldnt spec the multi-meteor nodes

[weary hornet]

Disregard everything I said

[harsh abyss]

They're costing you extra mana for zero benefit

[weary hornet]

No meteor belt means I can't speak to it.

[ornate coral]

Yeha i will go the left side of the tree, and probably proc it through fireball

[harsh abyss]

We can only judge the build based on what you post 😝

Proc and self cast meteor builds are very different

[ornate coral]

Yeah this is why i did not post anything for the swap 😄 just some ideas i have for uniques but since i never used half of them idk yet

[harsh abyss]

LE is a good game to experiment with, for sure.

[ornate coral]

Is it possible to make a filter outside of the game?

[harsh abyss]

I believe so, but I've never tried to

[ornate coral]

Guess i'll just log in offline

[calm plinth]

@heady echo what layout would you suggest for idols to that includes Throne of Ambition? The rest are Fire Aura idols. Been trying to figure out but not sure what the optimal layout would be. I've also checked the other "bases/tables" i think i'm liking the CDR bonus the most, but Armor would be ok also, as it's stacking Ward Retention for me

[sacred kite]

you can make them on LETools: https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/

[hollow trellis]

Do we know if the new meteor node that proccs frostclaw is per cast. or is it for each meteor that lands?

[weary hamlet]

95% sure it's per meteor as it says "on impact"

but you can never be 100% sure in this game

never

[nimble shoal]

Devs said per meteor

[hollow trellis]

thx guys

[ornate coral]

Is this node bugged? I am not getting the buff, i do see it ricochet to npc or me but nothing happens

[errant moon]

you have to stand in the chain range and if Lb cant chain it wont chain to you

[ornate coral]

Wdym by "stand in the chain"? If there is only me and 1 monster, i can't proc it?

[errant moon]

there is a range for the chains

why do you think there is a node to increase the range it can chain to

[ornate coral]

Say im in melee with the monster and i LB him, isn't it suppose to chain back to me?

[errant moon]

do you have this node ?

[ornate coral]

I dont

I just had 2 point in arcing and 1 in closed circuit, it's a fresh char

[errant moon]

i think it may not appear on your buff bar check stats it should chain to you if you dont have the node

[weary hornet]

Pretty sure it works. There's no icon to show when it procs, but I thought I remember seeing spell damage increase?

[errant moon]

never used the node as going for spark nova is more important

[ornate coral]

It's just a test run and i wanted to see the interaction, i dont believe pathing to this node in leveling is wise for LB right?

[weary hornet]

So here's my lightning meteor autobomber when I eventually roll it (think imma do spellblade vo since it's going to be op and ez to gear). I didn't want to futz with idols since those are rarely static anyway.

Was a real Sophie's choice with 1t7 constraint.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrX7N384

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (59) / Spellblade (26) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,550, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 1,258.59, Regen: 24.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 190%, Regen: 183/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 11 Dex / 95 Int / 6 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 88% / 26% / 81% / 23% / 23% / 33% / 33%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 310
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,958)

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Meteor / Static / Focus / Frost Claw

[errant moon]

its just one point its not horrible i guess but its better to get nova ASAP

[little pagoda]

this is some aspirational gear

[ornate coral]

The halo effect node?

[errant moon]

yes

[ornate coral]

?

Oh you would rush it on a fresh char?

[errant moon]

thats double dmg basically

[ornate coral]

OKay lemme try that

[errant moon]

well more like 75% more

[little pagoda]

saying that idols are nutty af this season btw, you can get 50% prefix + 3 omens etc..

[errant moon]

dont think there is anything more i can change on this
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A832n0WV

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (71) / Runemaster (17)

General:

▸ Health: 2,872, Regen: 23.6/s
▸ Mana: 409.04, Regen: 12.8/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 41 Dex / 135 Int / 30 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 91% / 141% / 93% / 71% / 88% / 112%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 1,026
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (452)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,242)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Frost Claw / Lightning Blast / Elemental Nova / Enchant Weapon

[weary hornet]

What's aspirational about that lol no 2T7 slams on it

[little pagoda]

couple lp3's

[weary hornet]

Common. Those LP2 vaion boots are the only moderately difficult thing to obtain.

[weary hamlet]

btw corruption datamine/calc is up on tunklab, go check how exceedingly unlikely your target items are https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/corrupt

[little pagoda]

I guess they're all random drops

[weary hornet]

(hence why I'm not bothering with idols in planner)

[little pagoda]

i dunno what half of that means

wait 75% for a positive? that cant be right

[weary hamlet]

idk maybe it can, after all most positive outcomes are meh at best

i.e. all tiers of corrupted affixes are weighted the same so you most likely get low tier results

[minor monolith]

yeah some of the positives are things we wouldnt label positive

[little pagoda]

yeah i guess a lot of them have tiers

[weary hamlet]

for some items like set items it's really unclear how it will work i.e. the turns set item into a reforged set item - will the base and affixes be all random?

[little pagoda]

thats a good point

will it loses some stats or wha

[heady echo]

i go for most refraction slots or whatevers its called

if stacking vit, the 4 corners one is best, if stacking any other relic type, pyramid is best with 3-4 omen idols

i dont bother trying for the 10% cdr, id rather just max fit refractions

[minor monolith]

i mean you don't have to really try?

i feel like most layouts in it just work for the 10%

[little pagoda]

yeah just get 1x3 omens

[heady echo]

if you try to fit 2x2 without overlapping 2 refractions it gets wonky

[heady echo]

which for cold/fire which is what ive been focusing on, gets wonky 😄

[weary hamlet]

on the other hand if I'm reading it right for unique idols then it's 25% chance to ruin, 50% chance to reroll affixes, 25% chance to add corrupted affix. But what is there to reroll on say Throne?

[heady echo]

most of my idols are sideways, and the middle tall one fails in that image

[little pagoda]

hmm no idea

[little pagoda]

does it? why?

[minor monolith]

that image works, 3 < 4

[heady echo]

the tiny to the left is lower than the top

[minor monolith]

oh nvm yeah it breaks

because the 3x1 is considered above all the 1x1s

[little pagoda]

meh its only 10% cdr I guess

[heady echo]

yea

this is max tightness to get the 10% cdr

[little pagoda]

tbh I may not use that 2x2 and go 5x omens

[heady echo]

since size is calced by number of tiles taken up, 1x3 and 3x1 count the same

[heady echo]

5 omens is a t7 affix

[minor monolith]

i do think its gonna take a lot of grinding to get 5 omen altars

[little pagoda]

didnt say it'll be cheap xD

[heady echo]

omen echo chains will probably drown us in this shit tbh

[little pagoda]

got to have something to chase

im gonna do omen chains like 90% of the time for money

[heady echo]

pyramid form well rolled will probably be hard to find / craft as it is the most refracted slots

[little pagoda]

yeah its the strongest it seems

[heady echo]

quad is next viable strongest if you are rocking 2x1 and 2x2's

[little pagoda]

the omen 3x1s are so strong

[minor monolith]

Pyramid also has a decent Wings setup too

[little pagoda]

see i'd hate this quad because its meh for 3x1's

[heady echo]

i like this quad for vit stacking

or refraction whoring early

[minor monolith]

its not bad for a mix of 1x4 and 4x1 either

[heady echo]

yea those would work as well

this one makes it easy to resistance cap and get your 1x3s in use that youll later toss into pyramid

[little pagoda]

ive never played LB before, when do I switch into it?

[calm plinth]

thanks ❤️

[little pagoda]

when I get enigma?

[heady echo]

when you have enigma

and a good wand

[little pagoda]

do I go straight for ladle?

[heady echo]

or just level it that way from the start

and rock static

i used triboelectra early on last season

was fun to have static orb on evade for clearing

[plain garnet]

Impervious altar is the strongest I've found for Wings of Discord shenanigans.

Specifically if you don't get a ton of value out of a 4x1, at least. If you do, Pyramid is stronger.

[calm plinth]

Fire Aura 24M with Throne
Lightning Aura 28M with Vilatria's +Jormun's
Damn son xD

[vivid wedge]

Those are darn high numbers

[calm plinth]

indeed, especially if i havent messed up any of the formulas xD

[sleek mason]

What build is this

[calm plinth]

Fire Aura Spellblade, 2 variants that i've been working on with the help of several people here.
Fire Aura Tank
Lightning Aura Dual Wield

[little pagoda]

isnt cold aura the best

[calm plinth]

Cold aura is already figured out, not everyone likes cold, i just went down a rabid hole ;d

As i'm not using Mad Alchemist Ladle, i would imagine that atm Cold aura would be simming more DPS. I could figure out a way to put it in the DW variant, or make a fire DW as well, which overall will be higher numbers than what I've simmed,I would imagine

[little pagoda]

the cold spellblade looks cool

[heady echo]

now multiply by .13 for ubberoth for ubberoth dps

dont ask me why it was in frozens sheet and hes the god of all things numbers. Im assuming DR or something

[heady echo]

i think reen stacks give fire damage

could do a sim with eye of reen in 1 hand

(2 has no additional effect over 1)

[calm plinth]

yea, i was thinking about that couple of days ago, had an issue with crit, as i wasn't utilising other things properly

but Weaver's amulet fixes any crit chance issues that i might have

then it would be a question Weaver's weapon + Reen or Ladle + reen

hahahah love this game

well i guess imma go make myself another coffee xD

[summer sail]

is glacier still the best way to level? and approx what level should we respec if we want to do aura spellblade?

[calm plinth]

3.2M for Fire and 3.6M for Lightning

[heady echo]

I think lizards cold aura was hitting 10m on uber. You may wanna see what all he’s stacking as reference

[calm plinth]

i would imagine now we will have more options to level with, but glacier probably will still be one of the better ones

[heady echo]

Just level spellblade

Flamereave nukes everything early

[calm plinth]

yea, just need to get mana cost down and zoom

[next frost]

monsters have 87% DR in level 100 areas, that's where the 0.13 is from

[opaque blaze]

fire aura isn't exactly a "walking simulator" right? if you want good dps i'm assuming you have to be attacking a lot?

[calm plinth]

When accounting for the scaling provided by Mad Alchemist, how the formula should look like?

Is each Ailment counted as a separate more Multi, or they are added together and then multiplicative with all other multies? Using 6 ailments on both examples

1x(1+0.06)x(1+0.06)x(1+0.06)x(1+0.06)x(1+0.06)x(1+0.06)x = 1.42
1x(1+0.36) = 1.36

[fervent ledge]

How much dps will I lose if I replace rune bolt with flame rush in lb rm build 1.4? I like the qol of fr

[calm plinth]

yea it's not a "switch the Fire aura button on" and just walk, u need to trigger it by either spell hits or attacks

[fervent ledge]

Does flame rush still have the node that auto casts runic invocation

[opaque blaze]

ok i knew it had like the "chance per second" but i figured since it stacks, 1-4 stacks of it isn't really enough to actually clear very well

i've never played it though, but didn't want to recommend it to a friend that loves righteous fire from poe because "never have to press buttons"

lol

reflect shaman/paladin was that last season but i think it got gutted pretty hard

[calm plinth]

1-4 stacks could be counted for possibly proccing utility, but not for actual damage. my calculations at the moment assume constant 20 stacks and im getting 20+M DPS on 2 of my builds, that brings it down to just above 3+M DPS for Uberroth

[calm plinth]

now that is what a walkin simulator was 😄 i played the shaman version,was fun for a while then i got really bored and rerolled Flame Reave 😄

[fervent ledge]

Was the lb nerf big?

Why they nerfing lowest corruption class

[calm plinth]

couldn't tell you, there are more ejucated people on the caster side of things, i've just played a bit of Spellblade, but wanna give it proper go this season

[minor monolith]

any thing written as "X per Y" is additive with the Y condition

[elfin rapids]

Recommend Judgement Aura Paladin using Spirit Xylem and stacking Attunement.

[calm plinth]

Sorry, kinda running on fumes. In the scenario i presented above, would it be the 1.42 or 1.36

[minor monolith]

the lower, its one more multiplier thats added up

[robust junco]

Did ladle got nerfed agin ?

[left hill]

Per Mike on Shatter Strike conversions

If it's increased cold damage, I don't think that's a bug to be fixed, if it's flat damage, I don't know how it wouldn't convert but that would be a bug.
Sounds like the +Cold Melee per Dex should convert to Lightning Melee and if it doesn't that's unintended/bugged.

So that's a relief for Shatterlight.

[robust junco]

Its 6% per ailment,up to 8 ailments > 48% More dmg

6*8=48

[minor monolith]

yeah its the same its been since 1.0

[calm plinth]

yea, just currently accounting for being able to apply only 6 ailments, need to figure out the other 2 xD

sorry if i gave you a wrong impression

[minor monolith]

8 ailments is pretty trivial to get

[robust junco]

Really ?

Planner ?

[calm plinth]

just simming different variants for FA

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A21p7jwD

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (88)

General:

▸ Health: 2,742, Regen: 46.02/s
▸ Mana: 382.4, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 384%, Regen: 255/s
▸ Attributes: 57 Str / 52 Dex / 180 Int / 27 Att / 41 Vit
▸ Resistances: 485% / 70% / 80% / 79% / 79% / 105% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,095
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (433)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,313)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Firebrand / Enchant Weapon / Flame Ward / Surge / Flame Reave

[calm plinth]

this is currently what i'm checking and how it compares to what i did earlier

[robust junco]

I mean there is already 5 ailments on the ladle itself

[plain garnet]

This is what I'm cooking for VO frostbite.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Av98mNaW

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (15) / Spellblade (43) / Runemaster (27)

General:

▸ Health: 3,343, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 131.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 124%, Regen: 32/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 5 Dex / 14 Int / 2 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 61% / 91% / 61% / 79% / 81% / 102% / 71%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 669
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (333)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,354)

Used skills:

Volcanic Orb / Ice Barrage / Mana Strike / Teleport

[calm plinth]

yea, currenly i only have + Ignite, havent looked into the ailment application options yet

[minor monolith]

you have more than you think, fire res shred counts as one too

[robust junco]

Slow/Frailty/Armor Shred/Electrify/Psn from Ladle

Fire Shred from aura

Thats 6already

Ignite 7

Spreading Flames 8

[calm plinth]

hahah, cool, im golden on autopilot xD

[robust junco]

Could even get Chill because its a nice defensive ailment

[heady echo]

I believe add together then multiply. Same as like fire res stacking.

[calm plinth]

technically, i just need higher roll on any of the attributes, and i will get +1 on skills, which can just go there, or move the ignite duration

[heady echo]

No. New affixes and corruption and idles is probably 30% more damage net

[robust junco]

Id would ignite duration

[plain garnet]

This should be able to reliably maintain ~1500ish frostbite stacks, each of which is 625 base damage on average with 6 sec duration, mostly from VO (and a little from Mana Strike). It's also got ~333% cold pen for frostbite and a surprising amount of hp

[calm plinth]

yea, would make more sense tbf

[heady echo]

Sorry just saw you already got a reply

[robust junco]

Wait a minute

This is global ?

The Chill conversion

Not just for melee

[plain garnet]

Is it? I assumed it was

[robust junco]

It doesnt say melee

Oo

[calm plinth]

Sweet baby Jesus 😄 what are u cooking 😄

[robust junco]

I should stop btw its 1.21am

fouck

[heady echo]

its only 7 here, keep going

😄

[robust junco]

I think I burnt it

Its fine

going to bed

Gotta be readu for tomorrow*

[summer sable]

anyone have an idea for Lightning Shatterstrike that is better than double scissor?

[robust junco]

BBC

?

[summer sable]

do we think that could be competitive?

[plain garnet]

If I'm calculating frostbite damage, is it my frostbite damage including all of my % increased damage over time mods then multiplied by more multipliers on the skill I'm applying it with?

VO core damage with the points I have is 6.75x. I assume I don't add the 200% damage effectiveness of VO to this?

[robust junco]

Dmg Effect is only for the hit part

Its a multplier for your Flat Spell

[plain garnet]

Got it.

[left hill]

depends how iceblink works in testing, I think

[summer sable]

hmmm... if it does BBC could be good, any other 2H anticipated to be good?

[robust junco]

Good thing with BBC is stacking Dex gives pen and Flat

[plain garnet]

How much dps is needed for uber abby to feel smooth? This build is pretty tanky and should also be able to maintain ~12m-ish dps if I can ramp up

[robust junco]

I think the consensus was around 10-15 to consider the fight not being awful

[elfin rapids]

Melee attack speed is better, both are 96%, but the diminishing returns in chill is big because you already have so much Frostbite chance.

[left hill]

honestly even just an exalted flamberge can work pretty well.

i have another idea but I want to kind of play it close to the vest for now

[summer sable]

hmmm I was also wondering about Event Horizon, Clotho's, World Splitter

assuming favorable Iceblink interaction

[left hill]

i've seen a few people doing planners with clotho's. could probably find those searching this channel.

[calm plinth]

If anyone's interested These are my Fire Aura Sims comparing couple of ideas.

[vivid wedge]

Second one is really solid

[calm plinth]

Looks like Int stacking vs Rez stacking brings almost the same DPS (in a vacuum for Fire Aura only)
Benefits of Int -> More skill levels if you're going for Legends Entwined + Weaver Amulet
Benefits for Rez -> Easier and more upfront damage, especially if you can go with less levels of skills
Tank version - probably might be optimised further, but fits the bill, less dmg, additional tankiness, albeit, looks not that much, but fits the Sword and Board playstyle and definitely brings A LOT more damage for the melee side of things. Just from the Ruby set bonus i was getting +162 Melee Fire, not accounting for any increases

like in an ideal world, you will get both Int and Rez at T7 slammed and then you would just get flat increase throughout, without having to compromise for levels. I've just put reasonable T7s across the items

Now again, this is just calculating the Fire Aura tick damage, based on 20 stacks. How that measures up to the cold version from Lizard - don't know, Meka mentioned he was doing 10M on Uber

If you're able to sustain more than 20 stacks of Fire Aura, that is just pure more mutliplier

as a reference 30 stacks hit 10M uber DPS

Also, note, I would imagine that Lightning conversion will have some-what similar numbers, because you'd gain Vilatria, but lose Throne of ambision. Possibly there are other ways to get more dmg, but haven't done the maths/research yet

lol missed the more multiplier from Firebrand vs Spreading flames , basically gave another 1.3M Uber DPS with DW side

that mutli is not accounted in any of the 3 in the calculations above tho

[heady echo]

you could also mainhand a firestarter for more damage as well

not sure if youre still strength stacking

[calm plinth]

nah, dropped the STR long time ago xD

[heady echo]

also weaver weapons are fixed now in letools

[harsh abyss]

Fire is really good because of this node

[calm plinth]

was bugging for me like 20 min ago, thanks for the update

just wanna blast now 😄

https://klipy.com/gifs/conan-o-brien-window-2

[obsidian quarry]

Is there any guide/good explanation on what mods are maximum chains vs current chains on lightning blast?

Most notably, how does the spark champion belt interact with focal blast lightning blast, or is the belt only for getting non-self cast on to chain?

[harsh abyss]

All mods will interact with all casts unless specified otherwise

I don't think there are any other than Arcing Power that are only on direct cast though, all the gear and skill node mods work on everything I believe

[heady echo]

Made a doc to keep my adhd on track tomorrow. Includes basic leveling route and planners for SS Spellblade stat stack. Hope it helps.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rwcL6ex7XVfPa9TyZaXcUwa-9fsjwuw-i_TyuBOc8DE/edit?usp=sharing

[weary hornet]

Looks good.

I once again applaud your dedication to season 4.

If servers were offline daily by 2200 my time, I'd be so rested every day

[heady echo]

yeah i told the wife i was leaving for the weekend 😄

[weary hornet]

I have the next week off work for this goddamn game. And I've never liked arpgs

[harsh abyss]

It's a good time

[proven haven]

same, we blast

I merge all my PRs, mute my notifications, and peace out

[harsh abyss]

I have company staying this weekend, so I won't be able to play very much 😢

[proven haven]

get them a PC and have them farm

[harsh abyss]

We're going to be building the Rivendell lego set and watching LOTR, tough to play while doing that 😝

[proven haven]

Why reen here?

is the melee doing a significant chunk of the damage?

I guess "per stack" multis

wait no 🤔

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJW4Rgkm just curious, but would Jormun's not boost your fire aura damage here by 20%? "More damage while dual wielding"

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (88)

General:

▸ Health: 2,742, Regen: 46.02/s
▸ Mana: 382.4, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 384%, Regen: 255/s
▸ Attributes: 57 Str / 52 Dex / 180 Int / 27 Att / 41 Vit
▸ Resistances: 485% / 70% / 80% / 79% / 79% / 105% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,095
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (433)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,313)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Firebrand / Enchant Weapon / Flame Ward / Surge / Flame Reave

[harsh abyss]

It's just generic More I think

[proven haven]

yea so it's spicy, right?

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I think it's INTENDED to be good for bleed builds. But if you're doing Legends Entwined, you can get the 2-piece just from the belt

Probably better than any other belt options

[proven haven]

oh belt, yea. 20 int is huge for aura though

[harsh abyss]

yeah

[proven haven]

if you just want attr though, SW would beat set relic

[harsh abyss]

Huge, but probably not 20% More

[proven haven]

10 attr

not 20% more, but if you can get for free on 1h

[harsh abyss]

I dunno if it's free though, there's a lot of good 1H options

[proven haven]

idk good attack speed base, +50 spell, +20% more is hard to beat

[harsh abyss]

True

[proven haven]

tbh I am surprised they did 20% more non melee on this

theres some crazy corrupts too

melee as spell, attack speed / frenzy, DoT and AoE, etc.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, though getting the corrupts you want seems preeeeety hard

[plain garnet]

Thoughts on this? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Av98mNaW

No corruptions or sealed affixes on gear, which could absolutely take the build farther, but it feels like I'd be decently tanky and have solid damage.

Last slot is probably flame ward.

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (15) / Spellblade (43) / Runemaster (27)

General:

▸ Health: 3,343, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 131.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 124%, Regen: 32/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 5 Dex / 14 Int / 2 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 61% / 91% / 61% / 79% / 81% / 102% / 71%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 669
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (333)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,354)

Used skills:

Volcanic Orb / Ice Barrage / Mana Strike / Teleport

[weary hamlet]

while we are on the page of VO core I wonder if we can stack VO speed and duration with the orbit mode and have it hit multiple times per cast, still probably not worth it lol

[weary hamlet]

tbh throne is mostly balanced against free res shred from shock

[weary hamlet]

I played this back in 1.2, it adds a bunch of more modifier when the extra chains would proc

[weary hamlet]

in the last episode of "dumb uniques that do dumb stuff", straight from the authors of "clever" solution

[mental hamlet]

I'm glad i've succed to feedback the %cold damage on Shatter Strike +skill shards that aren't included in conversion !
I can't wait to play the season !

[rotund ocean]

What does that mean

is it just flat damage now instead of cold?

[harsh abyss]

I think it was the affix that gives +levels to shatter strike was giving %increased cold damage as the secondary effect, which is obviously worthless if you convert it to lightning

[rotund ocean]

I'm just lost on the "succed to feedback" part, did he get the devs to change how the affix works

[harsh abyss]

Maybe 🤷‍♀️

[weary hamlet]

the ask devs channel is too flooded, I can't even see if they responded to that one

[mental hamlet]

That's because it's hard to know if devs have see feedbacks. The thing with Shatter Strike shard skill is viable to any skill that have element conversion. SO i'm glad i was heard.

[mental hamlet]

Oh and my bad, answered a bit too quickly. They will either include it on the conversion itself or use a generic type of damage.

[stray comet]

is this in reference to the cold% inc on the shatter strike shard?

[mental hamlet]

Yes.

[stray comet]

good to know, thanks

[left hill]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message basically this and the next message

[weary hamlet]

"it would be kinda nice" aint the commitment you guys think it is

maybe they will fix it in 4 years

[mental hamlet]

It will be for the next hotfixes. The release is already locked to publish.

It's ok. Either way, i'll play with the thing as it is now.
My goal is to make it visible so they can fix all skills that need it (not just shatter strike)

[rotund ocean]

Most skills that have a lot of conversions usually do % spell damage or % melee damage as a way around this issue, so the fact that shatter strike is % cold damage just seems like a product of shatter strike's previous state not having a conversion, so now that it has a conversion, they overlooked changing the affix shard to % melee damage to reflect that. Whether or not this is a fix we will see in a week or next season, seems entirely up in the air at this point

[stray comet]

surprised they didn't think of this when implementing elemental conversion

[weary hamlet]

well you surely weren't surprised when spark nova was bugged for 4 years straight, or when saber double active with frenzy totem kept breaking in every patch for years on end

that's the expected level of QC in this game

[left hill]

it's also a bit tricky because % Melee would no longer affect the ice spikes or glacier procs which % cold does right now.

% Elemental would work ig.

anyway, not sure if/when they're actually going to change it. but that was the convo in the channel

[mental hamlet]

Me too. I've re-read the tooltip to be sure i'm not bothering everyone for nothing xD

[rotund ocean]

Yeah I was just using % melee damage as an example, % elemental damage would probably work better

[mental hamlet]

The shard is "increased cold damage" isnt it ? "Increased elementale damage" would work the same, no ? Or i didn't understand how damage work

[rotund ocean]

Yeah, increased elemental would work for both cold shatter strike and lightning shatter strike, in addition to covering all the bases of indirects that shatter strike can do

But I wouldn't doubt it if we don't see that change until next season. They don't seem to like changing things mid season

Even if its a net-positive change

[mental hamlet]

Hmm. For me, it is a mistake from a functionality that they are adding this season so it could just be a "hotfix" type of thing.

[vivid wedge]

their philosophy of when to update things is...a little strange, but this feels too low priority for them

[rotund ocean]

Based on their track record, they don't seem to be in the habit of "hotfixing" anything. If something is broken, they will leave it broken until next season

[vivid wedge]

It's not breaking a set's functionality, it's not breaking builds if it stays, and it's just a minor buff to a build that hasn't been explored fully because it doesn't exist until next patch

there's just a lot worse bugs with greater impact that have stuck around til the next patch or season

Like lightning blast woopsie not halving things correctly was probably a much bigger deal and even that took til now

[vivid wedge]

And yeah this is a... frustrating philosophy when things don't always hit the mark the first time and seasons are 6 months+ between

[mild bluff]

Could I get some help optimizing this build please, the idea is to convert everything to cold, trigger a bunch of lightning blasts and apply a lot of frostbite
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7G128PK

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (41) / Runemaster (27)

General:

▸ Health: 2,743, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 218.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 122%, Regen: 36/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 13 Dex / 28 Int / 4 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 131% / 89% / 76% / 76% / 116% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 549
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (282)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (931)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Frost Claw / Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Static Orb

[mild bluff]

i feel like the main issues are not enough crit and not enough mana even with mana strike

[weary hamlet]

but what if they nerf a ridiculously busted build mid season and somebody is mildly upset that he can't clear 120k corruption or something anymore

that's the new benchmark btw guys, forget about that 10k corruption dude

[rotund ocean]

Were you there when Warlock or Falconer first released?

[robust junco]

They used to do so, people weren't happy so they don't anymore
That being said, if it's a bug they'll fix it. If it's just op, they'll leave it

[rotund ocean]

They were so overpowered, there was no reason to play anything else, and they not only acknowledged it, but intentionally left it that way until the next season

[weary hamlet]

I was there when druid first released

remember how they tuned it down after the rework within a few months, yet warlock and falconer took a year cause "no balance changes mid season"?

[weary hamlet]

and the season after the next one too

[rotund ocean]

And in this case, it's not a bug, it's an oversight, which is why I'm not holding my breath that it'll be patched this season

[mild bluff]

i thought warlock did get changed midseason cause the 30k+ ward was a bug

[robust junco]

It got fixed yeah

[weary hamlet]

I don't remember how much ward it was but somehow I think it was more like 130k ward, and no it wasn't a bug, it was an interaction that existed since forever and that we complained about since forever but they kept giving no shits about until it became completely broken with a new class

tbh they still think that the bone walls is a good idea and will just whack a mole every egregious interaction it will keep producing in the future

sounds like project management on my job btw

[robust junco]

There was an extra 0 somewhere
Maybe you don't want to call it a bug

[rapid hinge]

it was a bug

4>40%

[tribal veldt]

I'm liking the idea of starting spellblade, just not sure how to not be squishy as heck early on

fixing that with proper gear is easy but not so much day 1-2

[rotund ocean]

You'll be killing things way too quickly to worry about squishiness until at least 300+

[mild bluff]

yeah and depending on your build you can have an exsan + last steps by then

[rotund ocean]

and they seem to have added a lot more armor and ward gen for spellblade with this patch

[tribal veldt]

well I appreciate your optimism 😆

[half pollen]

The issue isnt the 120k corruption andys. Its the 200 corruption first time players with their own non optimized build that get hit by the meta nerf aswell. Its almost impossible to only hit the meta no lifers with a nerf

[rotund ocean]

If they're playing with their own non optimized build, how would a meta nerf affect them?

[half pollen]

EHG nerfs skill X which is OP in meta setup but perfectly fine when not abused. For example

I agree that the bone wall is stupid btw

[weary hamlet]

not only is it quite possible, it's also very easy to bring up the floor of builds via adding new op shit that universally buffs all builds, like you know the primeval uniques or idol stuff from current patch

[half pollen]

That wont help the new players

[weary hamlet]

also quick, imagine a casual 200 corruption andy wants a theme build around lightning blast, what are the chances that he will converge on the same spark charge setup instead of going for idk focal blast because it's cool

[half pollen]

They will login, notice that they suddenly cant kill shit and quit

[weary hamlet]

how are spark charges nerfs gonna impact the focal blast andy?

omegalul

no nearly every time when a build is OP as shit that's cause of one or a few specific interactions that casual andies don't use cause they don't even know about them

also casual andies mostly go for theme builds for obvious reasons so if you want casual andies to have a good time with your game you need to fix those, i.e. remove the sheer amount of noob traps in skill trees

like why does fireball even have a channeling mode for instance?

so that a casual andy can spec it, not be able to kill shit and quit?

[full bluff]

I agree that there are way too many noob traps in skills, thats probably a bigger problem for the "normal" player

Than us LE geeks figuring out how to exploit something to the moon 🙂

[sonic steppe]

hey its been prolly alrdy been discussed but is this a nerf for frost shatterstrike ?

[weary hamlet]

no, why would you think that? 4% damage is the same as 4% cold damage for a cold skill

but this makes it not useless if you convert to lightning

[hot heath]

any new mage skills looking promising? last time i played it was lightning blast and hydrahedron

[sonic steppe]

yeah got u, dunno mbe it could ve not scaled the same way

[weary hamlet]

actually a lot do, flame reave got buffed to the moon, SS can now be played in lightning, firebrand got a major face lift so it will now be the builder/utility skill in a lot of builds, fire aura was buffed to the moon, meteor was buffed for both direct and proc builds, black hole was buffed, VO got buffed and got a few meme items for synergy, plus the idol changes significantly buff a lot of old builds - especially ailments builds. Heck they even buffed mana strike so that it can remotely approximate a damage dealing skill

[vivid wedge]

this is way way better for mage than last season

[weary hamlet]

fireball, ele nova still unstonks

[hot heath]

oh dang that seems cool ill have to do some digging, i always liked meteor builds

[rotund ocean]

crit meteor is definitely back on the menu

[vivid wedge]

meteor has a ton more damage, it can also cast 3 frost claws per cast

so depending on your flavor

you can have 6 meteors per direct cast, each casting 3 frost claws

[weary hamlet]

yea I was already thinking the big think on a few meteor builds, will give it a roll this season

[weary hamlet]

the better angle here seems to be coc meteor cause 3 frost claws per proc is 15 hits to further crit and proc more meteors

the mana might be completely unsustainable though but with the blue band and a few other mana cost effects it could be reduced to manageable

[full bluff]

Meteor should be great for the long range caster style of play. Huge aoe from a distance 🙂

[hot heath]

any content creators or resources you guys are using to follow mage builds?

[weary hamlet]

"huge aoe from a distance"
looks inside
mana strike spam

[vivid wedge]

there was an idea...that is probably not sustainable mana-wise, but involved mana guide --> focus --> procs lightning blast --> procs meteors --> procs frost claws

[weary hamlet]

I think I'll just be going for mana strike -> meteors for starters

[sonic steppe]

prolly another dumb question but I see that Lizard is using frenzy amp corrupted affix on Throne of ambition on the shatter strike planner (MF variant). How does he gets frenzy from ?
planner : https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/j6i0l0i4#1

[weary hamlet]

corrupted affix on offhand

[sonic steppe]

I swear I read all the items lmao

thx

[vivid wedge]

there's a bunch of planners in here for meteor, but examples:

crit meteor mostly lightning damage: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A14R9b85 (credit: @harsh abyss )
fire aura spellblade: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/fire-aura-spellblade-guide ( alternative, credit to @calm plinth : https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A21p7jwD)
Shatter Strike cold: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rwcL6ex7XVfPa9TyZaXcUwa-9fsjwuw-i_TyuBOc8DE/edit?tab=t.0 (credit: @heady echo )

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (62) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (26)

General:

▸ Health: 1,580, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 433.61, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 467%, Regen: 53/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 31 Dex / 204 Int / 25 Att / 31 Vit
▸ Resistances: 35% / 11% / 59% / 11% / 11% / 42% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 316
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (431)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,149)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Used skills:

Meteor / Teleport / Focus / Snap Freeze / Lightning Blast

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (88)

General:

▸ Health: 2,742, Regen: 46.02/s
▸ Mana: 382.4, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 384%, Regen: 255/s
▸ Attributes: 57 Str / 52 Dex / 180 Int / 27 Att / 41 Vit
▸ Resistances: 485% / 70% / 80% / 79% / 79% / 105% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,095
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (433)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,313)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Firebrand / Enchant Weapon / Flame Ward / Surge / Flame Reave

[weary hamlet]

we are already at the point of "every time you read the questing beast it gets a new ability"

the amount of text on items is out of control

[vivid wedge]

and the LB RM is still a thing, seen a bunch of firebrand planners, yadda yadda

kind of a point where you pick a skill you like and there's probably a way to scale it in scary ways

black hole, meteor, FC, most spellblade things, lightning blast, yadda

[mild bluff]

does att scaling work with the inverse? e.g. int scaling work with madness

[vivid wedge]

most things that talk about needing int do, but it doesn't do ward retention

stat stacking, spell crit per int, etc

[craggy jacinth]

hey y'all! does anyone here have experience with maxroll's/BinaQc's lightning blast runemaster build?
i've been playing rogue for the past few seasons and wanna try out something new. the build ranks pretty high on all of maxroll's tier lists

[vivid wedge]

check out FrozenSentinel's video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xT4Bf136sM

yes, it's very very good

and fun, and pretty

[craggy jacinth]

perfect, thank you very much 🙂

[strange needle]

Number 1 Follow frozen for anything related to mage, 2 afterwards you have pinchloaf or something like that ,3 then bina build ,ranked

[weary hornet]

Tf is an andy

[minor monolith]

Amulet auto”corrected”

[weary hamlet]

reddit for "dude with a playstyle I disagree with"

like you've got the classic andies in wow and so on

[craggy jacinth]

i see, thank you 🙂

[elder wraith]

I've never played mage before (always played minions before). This time I'm thinking of trying spellblade / flame reave, what do you think, is this good build for this league? What do you think clear speed can be, and how difficult to control it? What movement skill to use?

[glossy quarry]

today we shatter strike the whole content

[finite cobalt]

I didn't see any meteor + BH build. Considering the amount of more % in BH tree and the "casts meteor" node, wouldn't that give a huge multiplier on meteors ? Or it doesn't work like that

[wide cloud]

Do we have any idea how fucntional fire aura will be as a levelling build? Or is it best to level as something else and then transition?

[obsidian quarry]

only subskills that dont have their own tree inherit mores

[obsidian quarry]

as long as you have firebrand powering it, youll be fine, but youll have to keep attacking to keep stacks up

[mental hamlet]

The offline is functionnable, isnt it ?

[minor monolith]

True offline is, normal offline requires the servers to be up

[weary hamlet]

it's likely pretty good, it was workable before and they more than doubled its damage output with the skill tree changes alone

and then ofc you have all the generic item/idol changes

[elder wraith]

Thanks! How about APM? Is this build as low APM as minions or should I look elsewhere?

[weary hamlet]

it's a 0 apm build, just keep the flame reave button pressed

and the move button

[elder wraith]

Could you recommend a build guide for leveling?

[little pagoda]

find one on maxroll

[weary hamlet]

raw dog it like a man, tbh you can level with any skill on mage

start with fireball or something, start stacking fire damage, once you are 20 swap to flame reave

spec mana strike as needed cause you'll have mana issues at low level/gear

[elder wraith]

Alright thanks a lot!

[calm plinth]

I was just checking to see how it would sim and if its worth going into

[calm plinth]

that planner was not optimised, was just poking for some ideas, jormun's not complete, need to change the belt for it

[proven haven]

You dont need to complete jormun though, still get 20% for 2 set

[weary hamlet]

soon we won't need simcraft anymore cause the excel spreadsheets will expand to cover the universe the entire mage class

[calm plinth]

yea, thats true, just not getting full benefit through Legends entwined

[weary hamlet]

jormunns 3set is just 10 crit multi tho

[calm plinth]

hahahahaah might not be much, but its a honest work 😄

[calm plinth]

but imagine if its a "10 MORE crit multi" 😄

[weary hamlet]

eh even then it would average to what, 30-40% in a good case? still likely not worth slotting a subpar item to complete the set

the set sword is very dumb though

[minor monolith]

pretty much no reason to complete the jormuns set even with legends entwined, just complete another set instead with the extra slot

[weary hamlet]

100 flat and 8% crit one handed? Don't mind if I do

on top of everything else

[river kayak]

So I see they buffed meteor a bunch, but not seeing any builds. Does anyone have a meteor guide out there I can mess with this season?

[obtuse zealot]

if you find one, be so kind and share it with me 🙂

[weary hamlet]

I'll try meteor this season but it will be weeks away at best so by that time I guess everybody and their mom will have released a guide

or maybe I'll raw dog it first character

instead of spellblade

[errant moon]

anyone who actually knows calculations on LE would be able to confirm the this build can on average sustain mana ?
according to copilot it can
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A832JlqN

[weary hamlet]

but then again I still have a dream that corruption will make essence weaver viable (spoilers it wont)

together with the new weaver set

[indigo trellis]

How was the name of the item that allows summons on mage? im not sure if it was chest item or relic. Some sort of animal summon. I tihnk it was general unique item and not specific for mage and not frogs nor trex summon

[river kayak]

@harsh abyss sorry to bother you. Am I able to level with this crit meteor build or are you leveling with a different setup?

[harsh abyss]

You can probably level with it, but I didn't build it all the way out for leveling purposes. I usually level with Ele Nova + Spark Charges or Line Fireball depending on how I'm feeling (and if I get a Firestarter's torch from an early nemesis)

My main recommendation is never empower an early nemesis, only fight them so you can cycle through their rewards quickly. Then when you get a Firestarter's Torch or other good leveling uniques, THEN start to empower them and look for better things.

[calm plinth]

loool, turns out that Reen + Orian's is simming more dmg than Weaver's Gift + Jormun's (for fire aura that is)

[indigo trellis]

I THINK never is to much.. sometimes item is so good and bis for your build - so youg et a really, really... "campain skip" under a empowered item.

[weary hamlet]

there's a bunch of such items, think incorrect history of eterra or the mercenary contract

[harsh abyss]

Firestarter basically trivializes the campaign. That + ignite fireball lets you just cheese campaign, basucally.

[river kayak]

I really wanted a meteor build and yours is the first I've come across. Thanks for the response.

[harsh abyss]

They also nerfed empowered rewards early, so you cant luck into a t7 nemesis slam during the campaign. So you're better off just making sure you get the good early leveling uniques.

[calm plinth]

Boys n girls, love you and leave you. GL & HF at launch, May RNJesus be on your side! Catch you tomorrow ❤️

[indigo trellis]

one of those summons summoned by historic relic of eterra was a animal?

[weary hamlet]

most of them are I'm pretty sure

[harsh abyss]

No problem. For midgame leveling just look for a vilatria set and equip it, then focus on defenses and mana and you should be good. I'm sure I'll be around, as will other regulars, so questions in chat are never a problem.

[indigo trellis]

can you show how those looks like if you have acess to them on offline ?

[river kayak]

Really appreciate it

[little pagoda]

do you ever get anything good from nemesis?

[harsh abyss]

Nemesis is a key part of creating the best items

[little pagoda]

really? ive never actually got anything decent from one, its too random

[harsh abyss]

So, early on it's random and you just kinda have to hope. But once you get to empowered monos, you start getting the Egg, where you toss your 0lp uniques in, and it will either add legendary affixes OR give them LP (the goal)

Also, empowered nemesis are the best way to get 2x T7 items, which you use to imprint and get items that you're more likely to use.

[weary hamlet]

I don't even have the client installed so far, speaking about which, I should probably start downloading it

[harsh abyss]

I have 2 boring meetings today that I'm plannig to play through 😝

[weary hamlet]

that's the point, roll the nemesis roulette 1000 00 000 00 0000 times and you'll get something good, at which point you will imprint it and shower in fat loot

[little pagoda]

hmm kk

im not even sure what i'd wanna roll

[weary hamlet]

now maybe you'll shower in loot half as fat since they nerfed imprints

[harsh abyss]

Honestly, LE is the best ARPG to just... mess around in. Respeccing is easy, cheap and doesn't set you back too bad.

Go in with a loose plan and figure it out along the way

[weary hamlet]

vilatria is a PITA to get on the first character since the helm drops in uh what 70+ monos?

[harsh abyss]

The game doesn't start to punish you for non-optimization until empowered monos, and by then you'll have figured out what you want to do.

[harsh abyss]

COF for life, drop the whole set when you drop the staff 😝

[little pagoda]

im just gonna level and switch to LB as soon as a get an enigma

[weary hamlet]

I forgot what level is that now on?

not terribly low level either way

[harsh abyss]

Easy Start:
1st Specialization: Ele Nova (Spec lightning, get the spark charge node and the AOE node) for clear
2nd Spec: LB + convergence as soon as you can get it for single target (then go for halo effect)
3rd Spec: Teleport (go for the nodes that cast Nova when you teleport)

Teleport + Nova + Spark charges clears screens, and LB Convergence eats bosses

[little pagoda]

im just gonna use the glacier to mix it up a bit

before I switch to lb for the next 100 hours

[harsh abyss]

Fair

[little pagoda]

My most annoying piece to get high LP etc.. will be Legends + unstable core

I cant imprint legend entwined

[harsh abyss]

I think it's level 2 or 3, so pretty quick

You should be able to get a 0lp legend by the end of the campaign pretty easily

[little pagoda]

yh im just accepting lp1 as a max legend

tbh all my gear is pretty common

[weary hamlet]

oh wait right there are more campaign chapters now

to me the campaign forever ends at retrieving lance of jormag

or how was he called again

[harsh abyss]

I always go for the full campaign because I find repetitive gameplay like Monos or maps in POE to be way more boring

[crimson valve]

am i getting this right reading the patch notes, Mage buffed overall? I see some pretty nasty increases in damage and other stuff.

[harsh abyss]

They had some nerfs to compensate, but yeah everyone is gonna be stronger this patch

[crimson valve]

mmm I really wanna play spellblade this time, do you reckon it became stronger overall?

[weary hamlet]

I'll try it this time around I guess, given that it now gives emp mono knowledge

[weary hamlet]

hard to find ways to nerf it any further we got like 2-3 good builds in the previous patch

[little pagoda]

I mean spellblade should be able to do uber / 1000 corruption easy

[crimson valve]

goddamn i've waited so long to come back to LE and this spellblade changes are really lovely. It's always been a class I love but certain playstyle / elemets were neverthat viable

[harsh abyss]

The number of good mage builds definitely went up

[crimson valve]

noice

[weary hamlet]

it had one good build before and now it will have a bunch of competitive builds, unless fire aura ends up being so op that it overshadows everything else

al;so all builds again get a power up across the board with the new idol changes and corrupted items

when you can kill uber with channeled LB you know it's gone too far

[harsh abyss]

How dare you

but... yeah

[weary hamlet]

I'll be trying all the dumb channeling builds this patch

lb, fireball, disintegrate (non gloves I guess - that's actually not that bad), tornado, avalanche and HEALING HANDS

[harsh abyss]

I wanna see a full mana stacking disintegrate build with all the new idols and tech

[weary hamlet]

just kidding channeled HH is giga terrible even compared to any other channeling skill

[harsh abyss]

Maybe using Spirit Xylem for even more mana

[weary hamlet]

I hate lightning disintegrate but with the amounts of mana we can stack it's probably gonna be strictly better than fire

also free tankiness with damage to mana since it is free (omegalul)

[harsh abyss]

Yeah

[weary hamlet]

also free procs of LB to stack up the gloves

all roads lead to sacrificial embrace

[harsh abyss]

That seems like it would be really bad, since the damage per mana is just for lightning

[weary hamlet]

hmm let me check that one, never gave it a good read

lol yeah right

why is it like that? who the fu ck knows

same goes for the equivalent fire node

[harsh abyss]

Probably to prevent the exact scenario you're talking about, lol

[weary hamlet]

nah I very much doubt it since the gloves tech was discovered fairly recently

but maybe we all underestimate the big brains in EHG who think 10 steps ahead

brilliant planning

brillianter execution

[cosmic dove]

I love the way disintegrate looks thematically
I'm always horribly disappointed when I try to use it for real

[harsh abyss]

Okay, 675% more damage

[weary hamlet]

I mean it's not capital T Terrible, especially in the cookie cutter build

there are definitely worse skills than it in the game

[cosmic dove]

for sure

[weary hamlet]

[cosmic dove]

my first play throughs in LE I kept getting caught trying to use it leveling/campaign

it was fun but I cant say it was good

[harsh abyss]

With a well rolled spirit xylem, 1 attunement is 8 mana, lol

Consecrate is going to be nutty this season

[weary hamlet]

spirit xylem turned out to be a sleeper of that patch btw

word is it also wrecks shit on judgment builds

[harsh abyss]

Consecrate is the judgment aura, so that tracks.

Hit once, walk aroud while it deletes things for 10 seconds

[weary hamlet]

It's even longer than that

12 or 15 I think

[harsh abyss]

Too bad with that amount of mana, regening it is basicaly impossble

Without Focus, at least

[weary hamlet]

just stack a bit of mana regen affixes pepega it's gonna totally solve all the problems

accoridng to EHG that is

[harsh abyss]

How much increased mana regen would you need to regen 1400 mana in 12 seconds 🤔 oh just a cool 1450%

[tribal veldt]

slapping it on smite devotion looks ludicrously good

that's what I'm starting bc you really don't need anything, just devotion + the staff eventually + random purples for attunement and spell affixes

[harsh abyss]

oh yeah that would be insane

Good combo with consecrate eating huge chunks of your mana

[tribal veldt]

I think abyssal echoes is the mana sink of choice? at least for dot builds

[slim cairn]

hey, is there a video showing this off perhaps? :X

[tribal veldt]

but judgment works too ye

[harsh abyss]

Nah, I've only made videos a couple times. Last Epoch leveling is REALLY easy though

[harsh abyss]

I don't think I'd go with a DoT build for devotion since the flat damage wouldn't apply to dots?

Plus, paladin has great support for crit

[tribal veldt]

not ailments, smite has those fissures now

and that node that turns crit multi into more lightning dot

[harsh abyss]

ah interesting

I forget Paladin gets the best of all worlds

[cosmic dove]

for glacier leveling builds is the standard play to block the large explosion/-80% cost so it can be spammed without endgame mana tech?

[harsh abyss]

yeah

[vivid wedge]

Think also the "everything lands at the same place at the same time" node so you don't have to think about order

But been a bit so maybe has changed

[cosmic dove]

I dont know what I want to level as

[weary hamlet]

yea glacier without it is unusable for leveling

[little pagoda]

hmmm should I go CoF or Mg you think?

I feel like getting 1lp items with the stat corruptions I want is gonna be annoying in cof

[vivid wedge]

Early set items: much easier with cof

Lategame: probably harder with cof

[little pagoda]

yeah I dont think the games designed around 2lp items anymore tbh

apart from some weak LP uniques

[lusty cargo]

COF is still a beast in late game
But if you plan to play only 2 weak you'll pref MG

[little pagoda]

yeah theres never enough for me to do

if i make my 2nd character I may go cof

[vivid wedge]

1 lp slam + corrupt feels better imo

[little pagoda]

I feel like the gear progression will feel more fluid with corruptions

[vivid wedge]

He said before corrupt is live

[little pagoda]

like you could slam something thats not ideal but is still a power increase and you feel like you've made progress rather than finding a 2 lp item and waiting for a 2 t7 for it

[vivid wedge]

Corrupting set items and using them is not a crazy concept

Which is pretty wild

Yeah eventually get outpaced but still

They've been trying to make set items a thing since forever

[heady echo]

ward on hit from ss is tanky af

[little pagoda]

I mean the weaver amulet this season xD

[weary hamlet]

1 lp + corruption should be easy in cof as that's the bulk of crap you get off prophecies

[little pagoda]

yeah but getting the slam you want could be hard

[weary hamlet]

1 lp + t7 + specific corruption is just rolling the slot machine enough times

nah 1 lp slams are guaranteed should be very easy

now my personal nemesis, WW items with good corruption

essence weaver my beloved

[little pagoda]

i'll prob get full 1t7 + corruptions, kill uber and then make a cof I think

[vivid wedge]

1/60 on most things for corruption but a lot of builds see a power increase from multiple outcomes even if it's not THE power increase

[little pagoda]

or switch into a meteor build of some kind

Ideally i'd love one that gets meteor cost to super low

[vivid wedge]

The mana recovery over 3s was buffed from 48% of cost to 60%..

[little pagoda]

yeah but ideally i'd like to spam them

I dont think its possible tbh even with the -11 from the lp1 torch

[cosmic dove]

I don't know if it is possible but it feels like there is some possibility for Heat Flux + FC spec'ed to be free/return mana to enable more meteor spam
don't trust me me on that though

[vivid wedge]

Most of the FC cost nodes specify direct casting

Well, the -6 anyway, the -3 is any cast and the efficiency is fire/lightning locked

[full bluff]

You can improve mana cost a bit with arcane ascendancy for casting meteor directly, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyminG1b-vc, can be spammed for a bit 🙂

[frozen dirge]

Man i'm hesitating so hard between spellblade volcanic or runemaster

[weary hamlet]

-6 is actually on all casts, only mana regen is on direct casts. At least it used to be until this patch, we'll see if its fixed

[hollow bolt]

i didn't realize there was a shatter strike mtx

[full bluff]

Anything for focus?

[weary hornet]

More importantly, new erasing strike cosmetic!

Focus? Don't think so.

Holy meteor cosmetic.

[slim cairn]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/runemaster-leveling-guide can this be used to do the campaign skip for monliths? we´ll be like lvl 30 or smth when u can enter monos right?

[heady echo]

wait there is?

sickkk

[hollow bolt]

yeah cosmic shatter strike

[heady echo]

fractured shatter strike?

or is there 2?

[stray comet]

The maxroll shatterstrike update lizard did kinda sucks

[heady echo]

use mine

[stray comet]

The one for lightning conversion?

[heady echo]

nnope

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rwcL6ex7XVfPa9TyZaXcUwa-9fsjwuw-i_TyuBOc8DE/edit?usp=sharing

[hollow bolt]

are you going to check in legacy if whiteout procs iceblink? i dont have a spellblade otherwise id check

[heady echo]

I have a whole path. Since corrupting sets is giga busted

[heady echo]

im gunna do a loot filter first, then i can maybe check, im technically working today 🙁

[hollow bolt]

yeah i wanted to do 2 hander shatter strike but without the iceblink proc its most likely pretty bad

[stray comet]

This is for cold right? what do you think of Dex stacking lightning SS? or is cold better damage

[heady echo]

im specifically going for stat stacking the new weaver ammy which works better with cold

[harsh abyss]

I like that it makes sets a lot more valuable because they can "easily" be corrupted into good outcomes.

[heady echo]

lightning you kinda want to go spark charge

[left hill]

Shattered Strike: Iceblink granting incorrect amount of recasts.
Welp

[heady echo]

and im tired of farming enigmas

[coarse anchor]

shatter strike bad 🙁

[hollow bolt]

where was this?

[left hill]

#1486744068347269301 message

[hollow bolt]

maybe its granting more

lol

hopium

[heady echo]

if its in our favor thats funny

[left hill]

well, either it's granting too few and TBD how long it'll take to be fixed
or it's granting too many and sadgeness whenever it's fixed

pick your poison lol

[heady echo]

at least they already know and are working on it

[hollow bolt]

yeah it could grant more

test in legacy

[cosmic dove]

‼️

[heady echo]

map clear from spawn in lol

thatd be funny

[coarse anchor]

what is the current best level build?

[cosmic dove]

too bad that isnt intended

[weary hamlet]

isn't it 50% chance to transform set item into reforged item with random affixes, if that yesterday's datamine is true?

[heady echo]

fireball ignite chance, ele nova ignite at mastery, if spellblade, go shatter strike, throw on a 2h and blast

[weary hamlet]

if true that's layers upon layers of rng

[left hill]

I hope this just means

intended: direct use can trigger it, whiteout can trigger it
issue: direct use can trigger it, whiteout can trigger it, but it can also trigger itself

self-proc'ing wouldn't be broken since it's diminishing but it's also fine if it can't.

but if whiteout can't trigger it then it's kind of just jank

[heady echo]

id wager its more likely its retriggering itself too much

[coarse anchor]

Is there a guide or nah?

[weary hamlet]

it can also trigger itself
yep sounds like EHG alright

[hollow bolt]

thats what im assuming

[heady echo]

dont need much of a guide for the early levels, then once in spellblade, use my google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rwcL6ex7XVfPa9TyZaXcUwa-9fsjwuw-i_TyuBOc8DE/edit?usp=sharing

[hollow bolt]

because the prob is whiteout with iceblink more likely. they're triggering each other back and forth

[heady echo]

has a leveling route in it

i go ele nova ignite for pannion students so those go fast

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I just mean if they get the "add a corrupted affix" outcome, they ONLY get the corrupted outcomes, not a normal affix.

[hollow bolt]

but someone test in legacy

[heady echo]

im not terek, but i have done speed runs 😄

[crimson vortex]

Is your build uber viable? What sort of dps are we looking at roughly? Thanks

[heady echo]

67.5% chance to get a corrupted affix on set items

[weary hamlet]

X: doubt but I havent checked personally

problem is some set items are giga busted with that while most are still meh

[vast yarrow]

would a 2025 disintegrate build still work now?

[heady echo]

12m when i calced it, i never calced the final gigamax, cuz that gears probably not attainable

[weary hamlet]

yes but we found out that disintegrate sucks without sacrificial embrace, look up that kind of build

[harsh abyss]

Also I was looking at this a bit more, and Disintegrate doesn't really have any other gloves that are super good for it, so you may as well use Sacrificial Embrace

[stray comet]

This looks good, i'll try it out, i'm struggling to see how you got 15 levels in SS tho

[heady echo]

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-gif-2484976909584170518

[weary hamlet]

eh it has atrophy but that's about it

[heady echo]

amulet stats + legends

stat stacking with vit

[weary hamlet]

I havent looked at what primal uniques are bis for disintegrate so that might be another option

[heady echo]

le tools should now show a level breakdown on hover as well

[harsh abyss]

For mana stacking? Xylem for sure. For regular lightning build? Vilatria + LE probably wins again?

[coarse anchor]

of course starlink had to shit the bed while I'm DLing

[weary hamlet]

yeah probably defaulting to LE

[stray comet]

ahh ok, this relic is better than nib?

[weary hamlet]

alright 35%, what am I even rolling this time

hard cast meteor for teh lulz

or fire aura like a pleb

[harsh abyss]

My options:
-Gordian Prism Ele Nova + RI - Runemaster
-Fireball + Meteor + BH - Sorcerer
-Fire Aura - Spellblade
-Shadow Cascade - Bladedanger
-Cinder Strike + Burning Daggers - Bladedancer
-Attribute Stacking Lightning Bear - Druid

[weary hamlet]

channeled LB mate, be the hero we need

[harsh abyss]

It's still in my back pocket. I need SOMETHING that could make it contend with self cast.

It's 8 casts/sec, but you don't get any chains. With Convergence self cast, you get 5 chains. That means you only need 2 casts/sec to surpass the effectiveness of channeled LB

[hollow bolt]

any confirmation on iceblink?

[harsh abyss]

Plus you get multicasts and blah blah blah, there's just no comparison

[weary hamlet]

you get chains.. twice per second, don't you

that said convergence is single target and channeled LB can clear

does that make the build much better, I guess that's a solid no

[harsh abyss]

Once you get Halo Effect on Convergence, it clears just fine

[weary hamlet]

but tbh I would just remove convergence

LB has like 4 flavors of AOE damage and one overpowered single target option

[harsh abyss]

I do zero chain LB with channeled, because investing in chains when you only get 2/s is a waste

[weary hamlet]

yeah also true

[harsh abyss]

But also, clear is never an issue for any build

You go convergence because it's the best single target available

Cast ele nova once and it clears out all the little mobs

Now, if Halo Effect only affected the first HIT of lightning blast? We might be in business, because then Convergence wouldn't get 2x the hits with Halo Effect which would kill it's ability to clear, and be a huge nerf to it's effectiveness.

OR if there was a node behind Insidious Conduction (or it was built in) to make cast speed affect it in some way. Then that could be amazing.

If channeled LB could utilize the idols that give cast speed while you have lightning aegis, it could be very strong

[weary hamlet]

lol wait it double dips into halo? I wasn't following for most of the previous patch

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, EVERY convergence hit gets a halo effect hit

Becuase it hits the "first target"

[weary hamlet]

incredibly moronic

I would say that I'm at a loss of words or something equally dramatic but this is the level of design/balance that I've come to expect from LE

[harsh abyss]

lol

Yeah, it feels like a bug to me too, but that's how they did it

[weary hamlet]

maybe they'll address it in another 4 years

[harsh abyss]

At least the node works at all now. I'm all for LB Supremacy in general

I like the skill much more than Frost Claw

[weary hamlet]

frost claw is just an abomination

the thing that should not be

[harsh abyss]

Oh shit, I completely forgot about "Trigger everything mana strike" for my build list, lol

[ashen glacier]

can i level as LB too?

[harsh abyss]

Too many fun looking things to play this season

[weary hamlet]

sure

[weary hamlet]

don't worry I'll try it second or third I guess

[ashen glacier]

oh maxroll has Spellblade as lvling build tho

[weary hamlet]

I wonder how many essence weavers I'll brick before I land on one with decent rolls + corr

it's possible to hit it within the first 500?

do you think it'

[harsh abyss]

I often level as Ele Nova for AOE and LB for single target, it ends up being a solid levleing experience.

[night cedar]

waiting for a cool frost claw shatterstrike cook from someone who knows more than me lol

[elfin rapids]

For fire disintegrate in 1.3 i had cooked this but never actually tested, it used the primal wand: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWXVjYOZ

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 3: Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (8) / Spellblade (59) / Runemaster (26)

General:

▸ Health: 1,298, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 276.95, Regen: 13.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 502%, Regen: 269/s
▸ Attributes: 33 Str / 53 Dex / 203 Int / 33 Att / 33 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 72% / 89% / 72% / 72% / 95% / 95%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 260
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (288)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,910)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Firebrand / Flame Ward / Flame Rush / Frost Wall

[harsh abyss]

I've struggled to find a build with the want that wasn't just better with Vilatria and LE

[elfin rapids]

In this case i think this is better, Fire Disintegrate is both too dependent of skill levels and Int stacking (because Int quadruple dips). Plus the need for a lot of crit, so if you swap Peak of the Mountain for Vilatria Helmet you lose a lot. Also having to use a Legends Entwined and losing a Red Ring doesn't look good in this specific case in which you have to stay still and thus need damage reduction.

Plus the flat from Vilatria isn't affected by the node on top right because that is "more fire damage for Disintegrate".

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, makes sense

[hollow bolt]

confirmation gang

iceblink doesn't work with whiteout

[ashen glacier]

what lvl can i swap to LB for endgame?

Or what gear

[weary hamlet]

lol I keep trying to sprint after each dodge

pepega

[heady echo]

theyll fix it

its still free recasts

makes the mana cost better

[elfin rapids]

Sadge

[hollow bolt]

yeah right now iceblink doesn't work at all if you spec whiteout

you never get the procs even on manual cast

[heady echo]

the other question is does iceblink proc recasts of iceblink

[hollow bolt]

that im not sure i'll ask that guy

[heady echo]

if so thats a better setup, cheaper skill and scales harder with attack speed

[harsh abyss]

that sounds like a bug

[heady echo]

whiteout iceblink is confirmed bug

iceblink procing iceblink i hope works

[harsh abyss]

usually procs can't proc themselves

[hollow bolt]

yeah if i had legacy i would test it all

tbh i wouldn't hold my breath on them fixing it quickly. maybe in 2 weeks or so

[hollow bolt]

ice blink doesn't proc itself

guy confirmed. 2h shatter dead. going erasing strike then

[harsh abyss]

I mean, usually procs can't proc themselves

That would be nutty

[subtle fjord]

So we don't get exalted level nemeses affixes anymore at low level, but we DO get corruptions like this

[heady echo]

nice

[subtle fjord]

not really doing much for my spellblade atm, but still nice to see things like that are still possible

[weary hamlet]

wtf

I only got a meager +1 skill level amulet so far

and a load of garbage of course

[elfin rapids]

C'mon, +1 all skills is good.

[heady echo]

Basic leveling lootfilter for spellblade + all the items i want for other builds

https://pastebin.com/mwcAamXt

[harsh abyss]

Wait you could corrupt a Spirit Xylem for +2 more mana per attunement, so 10 mana per, hot damn

[weary hamlet]

nice the game already tells me that I picked the wrong class to level

[vestal forge]

Lightning SS does change, so it scales correctly with dex

[heady echo]

oh nice

[marble shale]

Guys, can i level as Runemaster? Maxroll leveling guide is for spell blade, but i want LB runemaster.. Any leveling guide for runemaster?

or should i just level to 70 as Spellblade and just respec to runemaster later?

[cosmic dove]

LE is relatively easy to level. you can easily level as runemaster
a lot of the guides are focused on "how to I level in the absolute minimum time possible"

[ashen glacier]

When can i move over to LB

[vivid wedge]

It changes to +1 lightning? That helps a lot though admittedly argentus/throne is more of a balance lever

[heady echo]

can confirm 2h iceblink ss feels good leveling

[left hill]

hopefully gets fixed soon. garbage in current state then

[gilded tangle]

Anyone levelling Spellblade? I tried the auto cast Glacier talents early with Shatter Strike and it doesnt feel nice, the mana is quite restrictive

I imagine it gets much better later on when you get tons of mana regen

[heady echo]

i am

use mana strike skill queing

im doing 2h max mana efficiency nodes into iceblink

dont take whiteout its dumb for a long time

[gilded tangle]

Damn ok wait, wtf is Whiteout xD

[gilded tangle]

iceblink looks sick

I am specced like this for now. Very early level 24

[heady echo]

oh yea, dont do that, 4 points in north efficiency node, 2 in bottom, 1 in the path to iceblink, max iceblink, 4 in to the efficency node on the right

try it and let me know if it feels better,

also lets you use 1hs as well if you find a good one

[gilded tangle]

Will try! I love the idea of auto casting stuff but maybe late game feels better

[ashen glacier]

what build is frozen sentinel playing

[gilded tangle]

Are you aware if the auto cast of Glacier would also use Glacier talents? If I have Glacier specced

[frozen dirge]

yes

[gilded tangle]

damn ok, then I need to spec Glacier if I am using this

[hollow bolt]

Leveling with flame reave and fire aura looks sick

Ziz doing that

[vivid wedge]

Iceblink work in terms of increased attack speed?

[vivid wedge]

Specifically the 1) mana on crit node and 2) -80% mana cost node that disables large explosion

That makes it close to net neutral or positive at higher mana pools

[left hill]

ya, doing shatterstrike, I just went for all the mana efficiency first, then the mana on kill. going to respec it later but for just leveling it's fine

[ashen glacier]

glacier is rocking for lvling

as usual

i dont wanna go spellblade tho lol i dont like melee in arpgs

Out of Sorc and RM which better to lvl with

[tender wasp]

I am trying flame reave with lightning blast

pretty cool so far

[tender wasp]

feel like either should work fine

so whichever you prefer

[ashen glacier]

is flamereave melee?

canm't remember

[tender wasp]

it is technically a melee skill but it is a projectile that flies outward in a cone

[minor monolith]

I'm playing spellblade and leveling with melee skills atm just got to the mastery, because i found a sick T6 added melee corrupted item, and a T7 always have frenzy relic

that permanent frenzy relic corrupted affix is insane

[tender wasp]

that sounds insane

[uncut zealot]

mag eleveling sucks zzzzzzz.. whatre people usin?

[tender wasp]

i did get a t6 melee fire one handed weapon so that is nice

[uncut zealot]

runemaster atm

[minor monolith]

yeah mine is t6 melee and +1% increased melee per strength

with a t3 attack speed roll on it

[tender wasp]

sheesh

everytrhign else on mine sucks but the melee fire damage lol

[minor monolith]

and the relic is "always have frenzy but -5% effect of frenzy"

[ashen glacier]

wha tbuild?

[heady echo]

good to know its not a test corruption item. Was flagged as test in letools so i didnt put it in any planners

[uncut zealot]

old school glacier

it feels so gutted compared to previous seasons

[minor monolith]

its name is "TESTCORRUPTION 1 Silver Grail of Regrowth"

lol

[tender wasp]

On a body armor

interesting

[ashen glacier]

yeah acolyte lvling seems way easier but ill stick w/ mage

[uncut zealot]

wonder if hydra is better leveling..?

[ashen glacier]

people are saying spellblade flamereave or shatterstrike is best

guess ill be melee for a day or 2 😄

[minor monolith]

with all the crazy melee corrupted items im dropping, yeah spells had no chance

[tender wasp]

lol just got this

[ashen glacier]

in endgame is melee also best?

[tender wasp]

i am level 44 and my flame reaver dps on tooltip is 40k >>

[minor monolith]

sick, mines that but only t6

no clue, im lvl 18 haha

only got back from work a few hours ago

[tender wasp]

i forget is lower tier or higher tier better in last epoch?

[ashen glacier]

if melee is best ill just go acolyte

[tender wasp]

i get it confused with poe lol

[minor monolith]

higher is best

6 and 7 are the drop only ones

[tender wasp]

ah right okay

[uncut zealot]

glacier sucks lol

[tender wasp]

does it?

the mana cost sucks but usually it hits pretty hard

[minor monolith]

and if you take off the big explosion its easier to spam

[uncut zealot]

it jsut feels far worse than previous seasons

leveling is a slog for mage it seems

[heady echo]

shatter strike super easy for leveling

[tender wasp]

feel like just lightning blaast prob feels okay no? hits pretty hard for me and costs no mana at all

then throw in glacier in between here and there

also volcanic orb slaps and is a bit cheaper

than glacier

[glossy quarry]

Shatter strike the game

[minor monolith]

playing flame reave rn, feels pretty nice

[tender wasp]

feels damn good, im 2 sp away from getting the rebound

already feels so good tho

you gunna do fireball or lightning blast procs with it? or neither?

[minor monolith]

probably neither, my goal was to go fire aura

eventually

[uncut zealot]

i aint gonna make it through campaign befoer i just try next season lol

[heady echo]

how are you struggling?

send me your skills and items

[tender wasp]

you could also jsut level as spellblade or runemaster and swap to sorc once you're higher level

[minor monolith]

found a 2h mace with effectively 269% crit multi on it lol